October 18, 2025 • 39 mins
The season sets a feast and then walks away from the table. We dive into Kaiju No. 8 Season 2 with equal parts excitement and frustration, unpacking why an 11-episode cutoff lands at the worst possible moment and how that choice blunts an otherwise strong arc. We trace the big beats—Kafka’s mounting risk with every transformation, Director Shinomiya’s devastating assimilation, and Number Nine’s calculating hunt—and show how the anime’s trims soften emotional impact the manga delivers in full.
What hit us hardest was the family thread that should ground the chaos. On the page, the Shinomiya father–daughter bond is layered with grief, love, and a promise broken by circumstance. The anime nods to it, but pulls back just when the story could deepen. Meanwhile, Kafka’s struggle inches from metaphor to consequence: scars that don’t fade, features that harden, and a question the season teases but refuses to answer—why him? Those dream fragments and lapses in control aren’t throwaway visuals; they’re breadcrumbs to a reveal the manga places right after this exact cliffhanger.
We also break down the Number 10 suit and the captain’s quiet genius—less bravado, more psychology—and why their sudden sync matters to the larger war. Then we zoom out to the production layer: pacing that feels like a marketing cadence, cut scenes that cost character, and a finale that trades closure for a trailer moment. If you loved the world but felt shortchanged by the endpoint, you’re not alone. Our take: the core story still slaps, but this cour works best as part one of a binge, or with the manga as your compass.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:01):
What up, gang?
Let's talk about kaiju numbereight, season two.
I'm gonna be straight up.
It was I like on the one hand,there were things going on, but
at the same time, it felt likeit's kind of like how I felt
about Windbreaker Season 2 anduh what was the other one?
(00:26):
Oh not Dad to Dan.
But uh it was oh yeah, my dressof darling season two, where
lately this season, this umsummer season, it kind of feels
like some of these season tworeleases feel like if y'all just
slam season one and season twotogether, I think it would have
been better for it.
But for some reason, kaiju gonnarace season two is like, yeah,
(00:49):
there was some things going on,but I don't know.
I just didn't really feel likeanything was really happening.
Uh Kokos Galaxy, I do thank youfor being on for this episode.
Uh I'm just gonna say what myimpression is, and the four is
gonna be yours.
Essentially, what I gatheredfrom this season was okay, it
(01:09):
started off with them having aday off except Kafka was
recuperating from his littleexhibition with director
Shinomia.
And then as soon as that was alldone, uh Kaiju number nine was
plotting all over again, wherehe's like trying to sniff out
kaiju number eight, trying tosteal his powers and whatnot.
(01:32):
But come to find out that it waslike a ploy to where we're just
gonna act like I'm looking forkaiju number eight, but in
actuality, he was going afterthe director, he fights the
director, he gives up the fight.
Um the the director gave it itall, but ultimately he ends up
being consumed by kaiju numbernine infusing, and after that,
(01:57):
it was pretty much him trying toKaiju number nine trying to
create more kaiju, and thedefense force had no choice but
to go on the offense by going upagainst kaiju number nine.
Meanwhile, we have some of ourmain players gaining number
weapons, and that's about it forme.
(02:20):
It just basically comes down todirector Tsunomia uh getting
absorbed.
Like, I don't know if he diedyet.
Like, he's like hisconsciousness is still in Taiji
number nine, so I don't know ifI would say he died, and but I
didn't get that far into thebonga, so I I really don't know.
But uh I don't think he fullydied, but it's just being
(02:45):
treated as a death.
But yeah, like you know, peoplegetting their upgrades.
Kafka needs to learn how tofight without resorting to the
kaiju form, but at the sametime, he kind of needs to
embrace it.
But also, it seems like he gotthe same thing going on.
Asta has and black cold wherethe more they use that form, the
(03:07):
more it seems like it's likepermanently disfiguring them to
a point where like you probablydon't need to be using that form
all that much, but that's justmy impression of it.
Cookie has two floors reward.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
Okay, well, I mean, you're giving me quite a lot to
be able to put on the floor,though.
I so I'm gonna go ahead and putit this way I enjoyed season one
so much that I read the manga.
Um, by the time season two ofthe anime came out, the manga
had completed, or pretty muchnear completed, so I have
already finished it.
And I'm gonna be honest withyou, this was the most troubling
(03:45):
season for me because this isone of those ones where and I
hate to put it in this aspect,because the series ended, and
then I like the manga seriesended, and I went back and
watched the anime.
I was very confused because Icouldn't remember where I left
off at, where the anime had leftoff at.
So I was sitting here like,wait, Shinomi is still alive.
(04:06):
You know, I was like, oh wait,hold on.
Oh no.
I was like, I forgot.
That's right.
Season one anime ended when theyjust found out who he was.
I forgot about that.
And I'm like, oh, okay, that'sreally far back.
Um, it's not I'm not gonna sayit's chapter for chapter type of
thing.
Uh, even season two does followthe manga chapter, like pretty
chapter for chapter.
There is slight differencesthat's in there.
(04:29):
Um, they did cut some of thecharacter development, like for
example, with the firstsquadrant with the um pretty
much the new head captain and umSonomia the girl, like with her,
they there's more interactionbetween them.
That kind of gives a little bitmore leeway of how things went.
Because for her, it's a bigthere's a moment for her where
(04:50):
she struggles to accept him asthe new head captain because her
dad carried himself in such apristine way.
Like, um, there's it's moreintense in the manga when they
talk about the fact that how hisrelationship with his daughter
was supposed to be, because whatit was is like they mentioned it
in the anime, but it was moreintense in how they did it, and
(05:11):
there's like a more of amonologue with head captain
Shinomia, because what it is isthat he was supposed to be the
dad that spoiled the girl, hewas supposed to be like, Oh,
that's my little princess, andyou you wouldn't see that in him
now, like he's such a hard-faceddude.
But that was not how he was,yeah, but that's not how he was.
(05:33):
He was that person that wasalways smiling, like like that
would be a crazy thing about it.
They don't show that in theanime, but they show it in the
manga.
He was that guy that was alwayssmiling, and that's why it's
such a big thing for her, isbecause she's trying to get back
that approval for her dad of himsmiling, but she doesn't
understand that she already hashis approval.
(05:53):
He knows that she's wrong, heknows that she's doing what she
can do.
The thing about it is that hestill does not like that she's
in the defense force because heloves her so much, he doesn't
want her to put her life on theline.
But he's like, I'm gonna have tobe hard on her because this is
what she wants to do, and Ican't give her special
treatment.
SPEAKER_03 (06:14):
Also considering that they're just gonna throw
her in there.
Um, also considering the factthat um they well, she lost her
mother during um during thefight against kaiju number six,
I believe it was.
Yep, yep, yeah, strongest kaiju.
Yeah, so it's like even more sois like I already lost my wife,
(06:39):
I don't want to lose you too.
SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Exactly.
And because and that was thething about it, is the fact that
the relationship, what it was isthat the mom was always she was
always like kind of bubbly, butwhen she would be firm, she
would be like a firm mother,type of thing.
So that was the agreement thatthey had was the fact that she
was like, I want you to be thedad that spoils her, I want you
to be like the princess, but I'mgonna be the hard mom that's
(07:03):
gonna help push her through typeof thing.
She's like, That's what how Iwant our dynamic, I think that's
gonna work out best for her andhow it's gonna be.
So when you know, when his wifedied, when her mom had died, it
became that point that he waslike, I have to choose which
role I'm gonna take.
But the problem was is thatright after she died, he became
head captain.
(07:23):
He wasn't head captain at thatmoment.
This is one thing that theydon't really quite mention.
He was not the the head ofeverything when his wife had
died, um, before his wife haddied.
He became that right after shedied.
So he had to choose what was hishead cannon gonna be, and he
wound up choosing to be the firmfather because he felt that that
(07:43):
was the best way in order tohelp his daughter push forward,
which is the truth, it did windup helping, and that's why she
was always so happy every singletime that he would mention, I'm
proud of you, you're doing agood job.
Like he would be that firm hardhand onto her at times, but he
was always hurt on the inside ofhaving to say that.
And that's one thing again, likeit's mentioned more in the
(08:04):
manga.
They don't show that in theanime.
Like when he wound up going offon her, it was like, You got to
hold yourself high, you know,you gotta hold this family name
strong, and things like that.
He actually hurt him, he he washurt saying that.
He didn't want to say that toher, but he was like, I have to
play this card in order for youto push stronger.
He's like, I can't baby you inthis situation, we're in a life
(08:26):
and death situation, and ifyou're really wanting to do
this, no one's gonna hold yourhand.
You're gonna be in a momentwhere you're gonna be fighting
these kaiju, you could die atany moment.
Nobody's gonna hold your hand atthat point, it's just gonna be
what it is, and so it's like itthat's where it becomes more
intense because the pacing ofthe manga is really good because
(08:46):
it does intensify that moment.
Um, I will say so.
Season two feels off the reasonbeing is because they cut it too
early.
So there's a couple things thatI'm gonna just mention.
Kafka at the very beginning ofseason one had a dream of him
going ballistic and attackingeveryone, right?
(09:08):
And you know that that's a fearthat he has that he can't
control himself after he foughthead captain Xinomian and lost
himself, so he's scared of thathappening and stuff.
There's further into thatbecause that also him losing
control ties in to when he wasin the shrine and he wound up
seeing an old samurai shogunatethere.
(09:33):
So the thing about it is is thatat this point in the in the
show, we're supposed to there'san explanation of why it is
Kafka was the one that waschosen to be kaiju number eight.
Because at the very beginning,the monster showed up and said,
I finally found you, and thenboom, inserted himself into him,
and Kafka became Kaiju numbereight.
(09:54):
And he's like, Okay, but why me?
This is actually the point thatwe're supposed to get that
answered.
All this is starting to set upfor it, they're dropping hints
into it, and we're supposed toget an answer that's supposed to
piece things together.
The reason that the pacing forseason two sucks is because they
cut it at 11 episodes, which isthe worst point to cut it at.
SPEAKER_03 (10:13):
Because it's a weird number to end it on.
SPEAKER_01 (10:16):
It is, it's a very weird number.
The thing about it is that theywanted to end it when he showed
up because remember, the way itwas set up with season two is
that he's not there the entiretime.
Like he's there, but he's beingheld back, and it ends with him
finally saying, Forget it, I'mjoining the fight.
And then they're like, Allright, we're gonna cut the
season right there.
But it's like, no, that'sactually the worst part.
SPEAKER_03 (10:36):
Hold on, can we talk about that real quick?
That one panel when he turnsaround, you see that glowing eye
and whatnot.
I've been hearing that a wholebunch of people like criticizing
the way he was he's looking now,and I'm looking oh, okay, hold
on, hold on, hold on.
All right, first of all, hismanga appearance was like he his
face is like sharper, like hisfirst with the jaw on and
(10:58):
whatnot.
SPEAKER_01 (10:59):
But with the anime, do what now?
I'm green.
The animation um is lack had uhstarted lacklustering off in
season two than season one.
But yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
Gotcha.
But honestly, with him in theanime, where it seems like his
um features are more like squareand blocky, I was thinking, I
don't know.
I mean, I'm not tripping.
I mean, I like the way he lookedin the manga, but like with the
anime version, I'm like, well,at least he looks like he could
(11:34):
be in his 30s.
Like, yeah, I'm not I'm just nottripping about it.
Just you know, I just that's aweird thing that they're
reacting to it now.
It's like okay, uh, but to befair, sometimes like some
reactions gets a little well, Idon't know.
Because on the one hand, likeyou always look like that in the
(11:54):
anime for a while, and they waituntil now to uh can can I
mention this?
SPEAKER_01 (12:01):
This is also why I say episode 11 was the worst
part where they cut it off atbecause there is an explanation
that was given in the mangaright after this moment.
So and let's just be clear, wealready know how this is gonna
go out.
So it's not really a spoiler,okay?
He's gonna wipe the floor withthat other kaiju.
We know this for a fact.
That's that's just a given.
(12:22):
He's he's the anime heroprotagonist that showed up at
the last minute, and this is noteven the fight that he's looking
for.
Number nine is happy because hejust found out that he popped
up.
That fight is good, the fightbetween Kafka and number, I
think it was a 12 or somethinglike that.
That's gonna be a quick behindfight because number nine is
gonna pop up.
He's like, I finally found you.
We know that's gonna happen,even if you didn't read the
(12:42):
monk, it's very clear andobvious.
Here's the thing about it (12:44):
the reason people were upset about
it, about the animation, abouthow he looks, is because there's
two things that they mentionedthat happens to him with his
constantly transforming.
First off, you notice he's gotthe scar on his hand.
They're noticing the fact thatif you keep if he keeps
transforming, he's not gonnatransform back.
(13:05):
There's a little bit more of areason into that, and it's
actually really good how thewriter did this.
And I I don't want to spoil it,but it's just there's a whole
thing into that that was like,wow, that's actually an amazing
uh how you did how that workedout for me.
But the thing about it is it'shim transforming, is also
changes how he looks in hiskaiju form.
(13:26):
His kaiju form becomes sharper,he gets more spikes as he
continues to transform morebecause his body is turning more
kaiju.
So when he first turns kaijuform, you understand that he
only looks, he looks like amenacing kaiju when he gets
really angry.
But when he's goofy, he doesn'tseem like that goofy.
He doesn't seem like that.
(13:46):
It's like, oh, you know, he'sjust kind of he has a kind of a
roundedness to it.
SPEAKER_03 (13:50):
Hold on, now that you're saying it like that, it's
like it's kind of reminding meof the same relationship Eddie
Brock had with Venom, exceptit's not like two voices.
Well, it's not like uh buddywith a Kaiji number 10 suit
where it's like okay, it's twovoices and they're kind of uh
fighting each other in a way ina comedic fashion.
It's funny how they call it,they even call them a comedic
(14:12):
duel, and I'm like thinking, oh,they are that's so Eddie and
Venom.
But yeah, in this case, they didit.
SPEAKER_01 (14:19):
More explanation of manga there too.
Continue, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (14:22):
But in this case, it's like okay, it's more
symbolic to wear, like, oh, youknow, like in Spider-Man 3, you
know, like with the SymioSpider-Man suit where he kept
wearing the suit, and hisattitude kept shifting and
whatnot.
He started getting more lethaland whatnot, and he was like,
Whoa, hold on, let me take thisshit off before I go down a path
that I can't um come back from,and that's pretty much his
(14:46):
struggle right now with Kafka.
Yeah, at least that's myimpression of where I'm getting
from.
SPEAKER_01 (14:52):
That's that's pretty much what it is, yeah.
Because the thing about it isthat the kaiju is still a menace
in itself, the kaiju is its ownentity inside of him, it's
resting inside of him, but thekaiju is purposely relinquishing
control.
But understand this you evernotice the fact when number nine
comes out, Kafka kind of loseshimself a little bit.
(15:14):
If you notice the fact that whenKafka actually gets very upset
and angry, he starts losingcontrol of the kaiju a little
bit.
There's a reason for that.
There is a reason for that, andthat's the reason why he was
chosen to be a kai, chosen to bekaiju number eight, is because
of his patience that he has,because of his kind heart, type
(15:37):
of thing.
They couldn't choose any otherperson, so it's that's kind of a
spoiler.
Forgive me onto that.
It is kind of a spoiler intothat.
Anybody just like with KingdomHearts, anybody could have had
an opportunity of being thechosen Keyblade wielder, anybody
could have been kaiju numbereight, but the problem is
because of how kaiju numbereight came to be, which I would
not spoil, because of how kaijunumber eight came to be, only a
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person of a kind, pure heartcould control it.
And that's why they sought outKafka, because of his
persistence, his diligence, andhis kind nature.
That was the thing about it.
So it was a particular reasonwhy he was chosen into that, but
again, you that's why I'm sofrustrated they cut off at 11.
(16:24):
Because right after this fight,he has a conversation with
number nine, because number nineknows why Kafka is kaiju number
eight, and he even makes amention to him about he makes a
he says something to him, andI'm not gonna say what it is
because it would give a look,it's not gonna give a little bit
of spoil, but it will alsoexplain to you why I say I hate
(16:44):
that they cut it off because ithappens literally right after
that quick fight.
Number nine shows up and talksto um talks to Kafka, and he
literally mentions something,and Kafka's like, What are you
talking about?
And that is what sets a wholelot of like wait.
Those dreams that he had, thatthat was a sign, though those
were messages, that wassomething for him, and that's
when like this is the worst partto cut it off.
(17:06):
It's like you teased everything,it's like imagine you're cooking
a dish and you pulled out allthe seasonings and then you
didn't cook anything.
You're just like, so you'regonna use this, you're gonna use
this, you this, and this is allthe ingredients that you need to
make the dish, and then you cutthe video, and you're like,
wait, you're not gonna show mehow you made the dish?
No, no, I'm just gonna show youthe ingredients.
Why would you do that?
It feels good.
(17:27):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (17:29):
It's crazy that you're saying this because you
know how we normally get anannouncement of when uh the next
season is gonna be in productionor whatnot, or if there's even
gonna be a uh next seasonconfirmed.
We didn't get that this timearound, and that makes it even
more concerning.
SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
Exactly.
Because it was just like thiswas a horrible part to pace off.
Like I could excuse theanimation thing until because
yes, he's supposed to look moremonstrous as he transforms
because he's becoming more ofthe kaiju the more he
transforms.
But then the other issue becomesis there's so much, there's so
much story is there.
Like I'm gonna mention you saidold buddy with um uh was the
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captain with the kaiju number 10suit.
unknown (18:11):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (18:12):
Remember, they call him the comic duo.
So here's the thing (18:14):
do you know when it is that their
synchronization increased?
Do you know what it was that thecaptain did in order to make the
synchronization increase withnumber 10?
SPEAKER_03 (18:24):
Dang, oh I know my throw on board is I'm throwing a
point.
SPEAKER_01 (18:28):
It wasn't because they didn't explain it.
They just he just did something.
He mocked him, and then all of asudden their synchronization
went up.
Why would that happen?
It doesn't make sense, right?
Yeah, and that's why I said inin the manga, they actually
(18:48):
explained it.
What happened is that thiscaptain, he's great with
understanding people.
That's something about hisbackstory that actually, based
in the manga, we would have gotwe actually got his backstory
here, but I guess they're gonnapush it for later.
So I think they did change, theychanged that, but you understand
more of his backstory, he has anunderstanding of people.
So here's the thing he mentionsthe fact that he's like, I'm
(19:11):
always stuck with theseknuckleheads, and he mentioned
in this no flash is kaiju number10, and then flash is Kafka, and
then Kafka is kaiju numbereight.
So I'm always stuck with theseknuckleheads who always want to
do things on their own pace.
He says, Okay, I can't die hereright now.
What I'm gonna have to do is forthe time being, I'm going to
have to let them do what theywant to do in order to survive.
(19:36):
So he actually that's the thinghe mentions into it.
The reason he mocks 10 isbecause he even says, Come on,
your main thing is that you wantto prove me wrong.
Because they cut out that littleconversation that they had with
10 as well.
Too.
When 10 says the reason he wantsto, the reason he chose that
captain, he says, I want tochoose you, he said, because
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nobody ever gave me a fun fightlike you.
I don't think anyone else isgonna have let me have fun like
you would let me have fun.
He says, I want to fight withyou because you earned me,
because that you because thefight was amazing, you didn't
cheat, and we have, and I hadfun doing so.
That's the thing about it.
(20:17):
That's where the synchronizationwas going off was the fact that
he was like, I keep trying totake control, and you keep
trying to take control.
It's that whole bleach, um,Ichigo versus his hollow, where
it's like, who's the horse andwho's the king type of thing.
Both of y'all battling to be theking and the horse type of
(20:37):
thing.
And it was that moment of like,I have to become king by letting
my horse do what it's supposedto do.
I've already given my horse thepath.
I need to let it ride now.
I've told the horse, hey, we'regoing there.
And the horse is like, allright, we're gonna get there,
but we're gonna get there myway.
If I've already given it thedestination, let it do what it's
gonna do.
That's reasonable.
(20:57):
He he always challenges themconstantly.
He was like, hey, I'm gonna letyou do this.
I'm not gonna do anything.
I'm gonna leave it to you.
And he puts his hand, he putshis hands down, puts blade, um,
relaxes his hands with theblades.
He said, I'm not gonna doanything.
If any of them touch me, you'regoing to the scrap heat because
that means that you'reworthless.
And he keeps mocking him becausethat's what got 10, that's
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what's getting 10 excited.
Tin won likes to have fun, but10 likes to prove himself.
Tin likes to be like, I'm I'mthat about it guy.
Tin specifically mentions thereason also that he wanted to
fight is that he requested beingturned into a suit.
It's because he was he was toldthat he's the prototype.
Number nine told him, You're aprototype, and I'm gonna make
one stronger than you.
And that excited him becausehe's like Goku.
(21:40):
You mean you're gonna makesomething stronger?
I want to fight that stronger.
Tell me what that stronger is.
I want to fight that stronger,and that's who it is that he's
going up against.
Number nine purposely did thatto Tim because he also purposely
had 10 become a weapon.
Number nine is thinking on Aizenlevel, bro.
(22:04):
He's literally thinking on Aizenlevel stuff.
He purposely he knew Tim wasgonna want to be it, was gonna
want to be turned into a weapon.
That's the reason why 10 isthere's a reason why 10 is the
only kaiju that can maintain hisconsciousness.
They said they tried to removehis consciousness, but it wasn't
working.
Okay.
(22:24):
I'm like, there's so much,there's so much story that was
there, and I'm just like, oh mygod, you cut off it at the wrong
time.
You cut out some backstory.
Because remember, I mentionedbefore that I was like, I
thought I thought maybe theywere adding extra fluff, but I
was like, why would they dothat?
There's enough, there'sliterally enough content to make
a season two, season three, butthis could be a three-season
anime and be done.
(22:44):
Um, which no, they're drag,they're gonna drag it out four
seasons with how they're doingthis pacing, which is absolutely
terrible.
Um I fully agree with you onthat one.
Like, why would you cut off at11?
Like, why wouldn't you just makeit 24 episodes or something like
that?
Like, this literally could bethree seasons done and be.
SPEAKER_03 (22:59):
I can't forgive it if season three was like half a
year from now, like then todance where it's like, okay,
give us six months.
See, I mean, if you like plannedit ahead of time, where like
okay, we're just kind of likepushing out a couple episodes at
a time and like doing like onceevery six months, here's 11 more
(23:20):
episodes.
Okay, fine, I can live withthat, but the fact that you keep
giving us 11 episodes, and thissecond time around, we don't
know when the next season isgonna come.
I'm like, uh that's crazybecause it's almost like they're
trying to stretch out um kaijunumber eight.
Because you just said that themanga concluded, in fact, it
(23:41):
concluded last year, if I'mcorrect.
Uh it concluded last year, sobasically you're trying to
stretch out the anime so thatway the overall uh conversation
about kaiju number eight as astory just keeps circulating.
SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
But I'm like and keep in mind as well how the
pacing, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (24:02):
But I just don't want to be like, well, oh okay,
even though to be fair, it'sstill entertaining in its own
right.
But I just don't want to be likeWednesday to where two, three
years later, we finally get anew season, and I'm sitting
there like, oh shit, Icompletely forgot what happened
in the last season.
SPEAKER_01 (24:20):
Exactly.
And that's why I was telling youthat that's how it was for me.
When I finished the manga, Iforgot where the anime left off
at.
So I was assuming we werefurther ahead, and I was like,
oh shit, wait, no, we're notthere yet.
Um, hey, let me rewind my brainback and try to see what's going
on here.
So I'm like, okay, uh, let'slet's rewind it back type of
thing.
Um it's very aggravating to payand then keep in mind on this
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with the pacing of the manga ishow how the mangaka did it in
order to make sure that he waslike not overworking himself but
still keeping a maintained pace,is that he would release uh
three to four chapters and thengo on a three-month hiatus.
So it was three to fourchapters, three-month break,
three to four chapters,three-month break, and did that
for like almost the entire mangaseries.
Okay, so in doing that pacing,still finish the series, the
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manga series, and the anime onlyjust now released season two.
SPEAKER_03 (25:15):
I'm like, wait, it's almost like it's almost like I
mean, I I don't really know whathappened exactly, I'm just
guessing, but if it was me, I'mthinking like, how come there
wasn't an anime adaptationsooner if this was gonna happen?
SPEAKER_01 (25:32):
Like that's the thing, and they did like when
they and when they startedworking on season one, sorry, I
had to move my mic a little bit.
Um, when they started working onseason one, they started working
on season one, uh, like not evenhalfway, it was way earlier than
halfway through the manga iswhen they started working on it.
They could have kept up with thepacing without having to do any
filler episodes and stuff.
(25:53):
Like there was no issues inwhatsoever for them to do so.
I I have no clue.
It's just it's literally just amoney grab thing, and it's like,
dang, don't ruin a good seriesto be a money grab.
Don't don't be so money hungrythat you start messing things
up, because then you're gonnastart losing a fan base for
this.
SPEAKER_02 (26:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:11):
Because it's like uh because the way even the way it
ended, it's set up to where itcould also be a um a second
series, kind of similar to umhow solo leveling concluded, and
solo leveling can um cancontinue on with being another
series, it's already started offhis next series now with uh um
also Juicy Kaiser.
unknown (26:30):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:31):
JJK has already um continued now.
We already understand who wealready found out which
characters have died and whichcharacters have come how are
still alive and stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (26:41):
Alien sorcerers.
SPEAKER_01 (26:47):
Jojo did it all.
That's all I'm about to say.
JoJo has done it all.
SPEAKER_03 (26:55):
Alright, um you got anything else you want to add on
to this season?
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
Yeah, yeah, just a couple things I know we're gonna
we're gonna close this out.
We didn't want to spend too longinto it because hey, you cut the
series short.
Um, a couple things just toquickly mention, uh, Kafka's
dream sequence that's longerthan in the manga, um, which is
kind of confusing.
I'm like, why the hell are theymaking so long?
And then you cut you cut theseries out like that to where
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you're not giving an explanationshit.
Dumb as hell.
Anyway, so I there's not reallya reason for for that.
It is the animated the sequenceis longer than it needs to be.
It was very short and simple.
It was a very short nightmarethat he had, and trying to
figure that out.
SPEAKER_03 (27:36):
Uh, well, at least this season, has the same
problem that Danadan have, likewith both their seasons where
it's like they just ended on aweird note.
Like, okay, yeah, uh, like Itold Tonara in the Danada
review.
Uh, I know you were on seasontwo, but I'm just gonna recap
what I said on there.
Essentially, with season one, itended with okay, if they just
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ended it with Okaroon and Gigifinding that secret room and
that's it, I'm like, okay, fine.
That adds enough, and that addsenough natural intrigue to it.
But what I didn't like about howthey ended it was they ended it
at the part where it's like,okay, Momo is getting gatored by
some old men.
I'm like, uh, I don't, I don'tthink that's the note you want
(28:23):
to leave it on.
And then season two, it's like,okay, they fought this kaiju
with this mech that made out ofthe house.
You know, if you've seen seasontwo, it'll make sense, like just
watch season two.
But uh, they ended it with, oh,turns out that there was this
girl inside the suit, and like,okay, her kissing Okaroon and
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Momo just having to watch it,all right.
That's like interesting enough.
Yeah, like kind of like ragebait, but no, hold on.
The one thing I didn't likeabout how they ended season two
was that when you um not payingattention, you like you see the
house blow up behind Momo, andI'm sitting there thinking,
wasn't Iron in the house?
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And and that's the thing.
If you read the manga, youalready know, but for people who
only watch the anime, they gottawait like a year or two just to
figure out what the hell justhappened.
So I'm just saying, like, uh,it's just weird how they be
ending these seasons on thesenotes, and it's like gonna feel
(29:31):
like those are gonna takeforever just to get answers.
We might that's why I toldTanara that sometimes anime
serves as a companion to themanga to where the anime just
supposed to drum up enters intothe manga because you know at
the end of the day, the mangasales is driving the whole
fucking thing as far as like ifthey even get funding for
(29:53):
producing the anime.
SPEAKER_01 (29:55):
Yeah.
And then also the fact that oflike uh sales of items and stuff
like that.
That too, like right.
Yeah, pacing is always gonna bea big issue when it comes down
to it because a lot of timesthese directors that they have
are not they don't know when's agood suspense point to hang out
that to end at.
They're like, okay, we're gonnaend at this suspense point right
(30:16):
here.
And it winds up being like,Okay, that's the worst,
literally worst scenario ofsuspense that you could have
ended at.
You have now made things moreconfusing than it's supposed to
be.
And you or you, like I said,like you did that analogy about
the food.
It's like you've laid everythingout, and then just everyone's
just expected to figure thingsout on their own, type of thing,
and no one's gonna do the recipecorrectly, no one's gonna know
(30:38):
what you're doing.
SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
You know what's crazy to make it a little
relevant to guys like me towhere, like, imagine the 3D
print community where you thinkjust because you buy a 3D print,
that's all you need.
Oh no, no, buddy, no.
Like, you need a whole bunch oftools, and you need to know
this, that, and the third, andthe 3D print community sometimes
act like they don't even want totell you, like, you're just
(31:00):
gonna have to figure it out onyour own.
I'm like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_01 (31:03):
Yeah, or the gaming community.
Think about it this way.
Imagine Dark Souls, the tutorialwasn't even they they just
didn't explain to you what thebuttons were.
It's just like, hey, so there'sa button that's gonna tell you
to jump, there's a button of howyou attack, and there's a button
of how you dodge.
Good luck.
And you're like, wait, what'sthe buttons?
What you just you you gave youtold me that there's something,
but you didn't tell me anythingat all.
(31:25):
I'm like, yeah, that's thepoint.
That's where it becomesproblematic.
SPEAKER_03 (31:28):
It's like you you'll be better for it by figuring it
out together on your own.
I'm like, bro, that just soundslike an excuse for y'all to be
lazy volunting me theinformation, you know.
unknown (31:40):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (31:40):
You're cutting corners trying to stop lord.
SPEAKER_01 (31:46):
But yeah, that's that's what I got.
And then um, and then I'm notgonna spoil it into this with
us, but I'm gonna put it in thisaspect here to just kind of give
some hints into the questionthat you asked earlier.
Um, Shinomia by throughoutseason two, should um head
captain Shinomia is not fullydead yet.
As you can see, he's like theyconstantly show him, they still
show him like in the pool ofwater and stuff like that,
(32:08):
right?
Um, because his subconsciousnessis still alive, but he keeps
mentioning that he's purposelytrying to hold on.
So there is a relevance for whyhe's doing so.
There is a thing about it isthat um number nine mentions
specifically, he says there's acooldown period every single
time that he assimilates someoneinto his body.
He said there's a cool downperiod, and keep in mind the
(32:30):
fact that he knew he was aboutto die right after he absorbed
the head captain because he hadto go up against Kafka and um I
can't remember old buddy's name,but uh is is Ren.
Yeah.
Um Ren about um because both ofthem were tearing his ass up
like left and right type ofthing.
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He was about to die that fight.
SPEAKER_03 (32:53):
Were you talking about the um captain of the
birth division?
SPEAKER_01 (32:57):
Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:58):
Oh, again, yeah, with the D.
That's what again.
SPEAKER_01 (33:01):
Yeah, so they were about to kill him.
He knew he was about that's whyeven um number nine was like, Oh
shit, you said I should startoff with this the first place.
He says, Y'all won't leave,y'all won't let nobody die, and
that's my chance to escape.
But it would they was about tokill his ass right there, like
in even in the manga, it was thesame way.
Number nine was like, Holy shit,I'm about to die.
He was like, Yo, this is this isnot what I planned for.
(33:24):
I didn't think this wouldhappen.
And he's and then he but the inthe manga he says this that he
doesn't say in the anime.
This assimilation is takinglonger than it should.
So I'm gonna leave it on thatnote.
Leave it on that note if thatthat still doesn't answer your
question.
Like I said, I don't want tospoil it for you.
SPEAKER_03 (33:42):
No, yeah, so there we go.
SPEAKER_01 (33:46):
That's all I got for for season two.
I guess it there's there's alot, but the problem is there's
a lot that is not removed, theydidn't remove anything, it's
just they cut it off at aterrible time.
SPEAKER_03 (33:58):
So yeah, season three.
SPEAKER_01 (34:00):
Anybody?
SPEAKER_03 (34:01):
That's that's just yeah, that's the main thing.
It's like you are leaving a lotof information out depending on
a season three that you didn'teven announce yet.
That's the weirdest thing.
That's the weird part for me.
But um, I'll say that, you knowwhat?
I want to say I'm still gonnaKai N Ray is still an eight out
(34:23):
of ten overall for me.
It's like it's it got so it'slike I wanna like you, I really
wanna like you, but you're justnot there yet.
SPEAKER_01 (34:34):
And again, this is not the writing of the story
part, like the story writing isfantastic.
Is it perfect?
No, nothing's perfect, but it'sreally fantastic.
It's just it's this the studio,the anime studio's paste, it's
just a bad place of cutting off.
It just if you want to, I guessyou could do what I did.
Like when season one ended, Iwas so excited.
(34:54):
I just like I couldn't wait.
I was like, I want to read it, Ijust want to go ahead and read
it, especially after the time.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
Now because I'm uh uh you ain't gonna keep uh blue
balling me with these seasonfinales.
Um uh-uh, I might as well justread the manga.
Fuck it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:11):
Pretty much, but yeah, that's like I took exactly
the note that Tylos had said atthe end of season one of Kaiju
November.
He's like, he said, Jerry, justread the manga.
SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
I'm like, you know what?
I got you.
He said, Coke, read the manga.
I said, I'm gonna read themanga.
I read the manga and I'm like,oh my god, this thing is
amazing.
I said, uh, doing the threemonths I ate it's no.
SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
But yeah, that's the this is one of those ones that I
don't I'm not at a point ofsaying, don't watch the anime
read the manga.
No, the anime is still good,it's terrible pacing.
This is one of those ones you'regonna want to binge it.
Like this if they're gonna cutwith them doing this pacing,
it's better to binge.
SPEAKER_03 (35:50):
Hold on.
To be fair, at least it's notlike chainsaw man, because I'm
like, bro, like how long ago wasseason one?
And I know the movies coming outthis year, but I'm like sitting
like thinking, how long wasseason one again?
And and I I I actually dove intothe manga and I'm like, bro.
Yeah, for those of you who onlywatch the anime, get ready for
(36:13):
some bullshit.
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
Very true.
I will say this, uh it's a quicknote into it.
Chainsaw Man is already toppedthe Demon Slayer movie in Japan.
Um so really just yeah, theyalready released a whole article
about that where it's alreadytopped um Demon Slayer, and I'm
like, wow, okay, that's all thathype, all the hype.
SPEAKER_03 (36:36):
Well, I know it's like United States um boss boxes
or whatnot, but it's like allthat hype um by the numbers on
Demon Slayer, and then likehell, it didn't climb on it to
this day yet, as far as umChance on Men the Red art.
So we'll see.
But it's like it's yeah, at thispoint, Demon Swell Demon Slayer
is almost ending as an anime,anyways.
(36:56):
Like they're just pretty muchdoing movies at this point.
I mean, there it's not even thatclose.
Like, okay, I dove into themanga for Demon Slayer, so
that's why watching InfinityCastle didn't have a whole lot
of urgency because I kind ofalready knew.
Uh yeah, I I mean I'm stillgonna watch the movie, but I I
I'm just taking my sweet timegetting to it.
But point being is that they'regonna split up Infinity Castle
(37:19):
and the three movies, theyalready did one.
Uh the second one, I don't knowwhen that's gonna be, but I'm
guessing that they're gonna giveit like two years apart.
Uh, I mean, granted, ooh, whenthey explain how uh it took
three years to animate thebackground for the Infinity
Castle, but that's only becausethey got new equipment.
If they stuck with the oldequipment, it would have taken
(37:42):
10 years to make that shit.
And I'm like, oh, y'allunderestimate how much work it
takes to put into animation.
Like, well, but um, yeah, threemovies, and then there's uh
sunrise showdown art that's comeright after it.
But it's mainly just them upagainst Moose on for the most
(38:02):
part.
But I think what they're gonnado is that they might
incorporate that final arc intothe third movie.
That's just my theory.
Either that or it's like they'regonna make a three-part movie
and then one final movie, andthat's the sunrise arc.
Um, but yeah, like the way theyjust kind of stressing it out.
It's almost like they'd betaking notes from a tackle
(38:23):
fighting that's like, okay,let's just speed.
How can we stretch out thisfranchise for as long as
possible?
This each um having circulation.
I'm like, bro, dawg, like justcome on, dawg.
Like, don't drag it out.
Like at this point, like you'rejust pissing on people off.
Like, we kind of want to justget it over with already.
(38:45):
I don't know.
Like, some people want to ridefor as long as possible, but
hey, I'm one of those guys thatfeel, hey man, like, listen,
sometimes we just gotta get toour destination at some point,
right?
I know it's kind of hard to uhsay goodbye to one of your
favorite franchises of all time,but nothing lasts forever.
(39:08):
Unfortunately, that's just nothow it works.
But yeah, that's all I have tosay.
SPEAKER_01 (39:13):
Um, Kokey I do have anything else?
No, no, I already said that wasdone.
SPEAKER_03 (39:17):
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
All right, so dear listener,thank you for listening to us to
the end.
Kokey guys, thank you for beingon the show.
Uh, go ahead and have yourself agood morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good night.
But ultimately, do take it easyand remember to stay nerdy and
that great things are coming.
We are zoning up out of here.
What up, gang?
Let's talk about kaiju numbereight, season two.
I'm gonna be straight up.
It was I like on the one hand,there were things going on, but
at the same time, it felt likeit's kind of like how I felt
about Windbreaker Season 2 anduh what was the other one?
(00:26):
Oh not Dad to Dan.
But uh it was oh yeah, my dressof darling season two, where
lately this season, this umsummer season, it kind of feels
like some of these season tworeleases feel like if y'all just
slam season one and season twotogether, I think it would have
been better for it.
But for some reason, kaiju gonnarace season two is like, yeah,
(00:49):
there was some things going on,but I don't know.
I just didn't really feel likeanything was really happening.
Uh Kokos Galaxy, I do thank youfor being on for this episode.
Uh I'm just gonna say what myimpression is, and the four is
gonna be yours.
Essentially, what I gatheredfrom this season was okay, it
(01:09):
started off with them having aday off except Kafka was
recuperating from his littleexhibition with director
Shinomia.
And then as soon as that was alldone, uh Kaiju number nine was
plotting all over again, wherehe's like trying to sniff out
kaiju number eight, trying tosteal his powers and whatnot.
(01:32):
But come to find out that it waslike a ploy to where we're just
gonna act like I'm looking forkaiju number eight, but in
actuality, he was going afterthe director, he fights the
director, he gives up the fight.
Um the the director gave it itall, but ultimately he ends up
being consumed by kaiju numbernine infusing, and after that,
(01:57):
it was pretty much him trying toKaiju number nine trying to
create more kaiju, and thedefense force had no choice but
to go on the offense by going upagainst kaiju number nine.
Meanwhile, we have some of ourmain players gaining number
weapons, and that's about it forme.
(02:20):
It just basically comes down todirector Tsunomia uh getting
absorbed.
Like, I don't know if he diedyet.
Like, he's like hisconsciousness is still in Taiji
number nine, so I don't know ifI would say he died, and but I
didn't get that far into thebonga, so I I really don't know.
But uh I don't think he fullydied, but it's just being
(02:45):
treated as a death.
But yeah, like you know, peoplegetting their upgrades.
Kafka needs to learn how tofight without resorting to the
kaiju form, but at the sametime, he kind of needs to
embrace it.
But also, it seems like he gotthe same thing going on.
Asta has and black cold wherethe more they use that form, the
(03:07):
more it seems like it's likepermanently disfiguring them to
a point where like you probablydon't need to be using that form
all that much, but that's justmy impression of it.
Cookie has two floors reward.
SPEAKER_01 (03:22):
Okay, well, I mean, you're giving me quite a lot to
be able to put on the floor,though.
I so I'm gonna go ahead and putit this way I enjoyed season one
so much that I read the manga.
Um, by the time season two ofthe anime came out, the manga
had completed, or pretty muchnear completed, so I have
already finished it.
And I'm gonna be honest withyou, this was the most troubling
(03:45):
season for me because this isone of those ones where and I
hate to put it in this aspect,because the series ended, and
then I like the manga seriesended, and I went back and
watched the anime.
I was very confused because Icouldn't remember where I left
off at, where the anime had leftoff at.
So I was sitting here like,wait, Shinomi is still alive.
(04:06):
You know, I was like, oh wait,hold on.
Oh no.
I was like, I forgot.
That's right.
Season one anime ended when theyjust found out who he was.
I forgot about that.
And I'm like, oh, okay, that'sreally far back.
Um, it's not I'm not gonna sayit's chapter for chapter type of
thing.
Uh, even season two does followthe manga chapter, like pretty
chapter for chapter.
There is slight differencesthat's in there.
(04:29):
Um, they did cut some of thecharacter development, like for
example, with the firstsquadrant with the um pretty
much the new head captain and umSonomia the girl, like with her,
they there's more interactionbetween them.
That kind of gives a little bitmore leeway of how things went.
Because for her, it's a bigthere's a moment for her where
(04:50):
she struggles to accept him asthe new head captain because her
dad carried himself in such apristine way.
Like, um, there's it's moreintense in the manga when they
talk about the fact that how hisrelationship with his daughter
was supposed to be, because whatit was is like they mentioned it
in the anime, but it was moreintense in how they did it, and
(05:11):
there's like a more of amonologue with head captain
Shinomia, because what it is isthat he was supposed to be the
dad that spoiled the girl, hewas supposed to be like, Oh,
that's my little princess, andyou you wouldn't see that in him
now, like he's such a hard-faceddude.
But that was not how he was,yeah, but that's not how he was.
(05:33):
He was that person that wasalways smiling, like like that
would be a crazy thing about it.
They don't show that in theanime, but they show it in the
manga.
He was that guy that was alwayssmiling, and that's why it's
such a big thing for her, isbecause she's trying to get back
that approval for her dad of himsmiling, but she doesn't
understand that she already hashis approval.
(05:53):
He knows that she's wrong, heknows that she's doing what she
can do.
The thing about it is that hestill does not like that she's
in the defense force because heloves her so much, he doesn't
want her to put her life on theline.
But he's like, I'm gonna have tobe hard on her because this is
what she wants to do, and Ican't give her special
treatment.
SPEAKER_03 (06:14):
Also considering that they're just gonna throw
her in there.
Um, also considering the factthat um they well, she lost her
mother during um during thefight against kaiju number six,
I believe it was.
Yep, yep, yeah, strongest kaiju.
Yeah, so it's like even more sois like I already lost my wife,
(06:39):
I don't want to lose you too.
SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
Exactly.
And because and that was thething about it, is the fact that
the relationship, what it was isthat the mom was always she was
always like kind of bubbly, butwhen she would be firm, she
would be like a firm mother,type of thing.
So that was the agreement thatthey had was the fact that she
was like, I want you to be thedad that spoils her, I want you
to be like the princess, but I'mgonna be the hard mom that's
(07:03):
gonna help push her through typeof thing.
She's like, That's what how Iwant our dynamic, I think that's
gonna work out best for her andhow it's gonna be.
So when you know, when his wifedied, when her mom had died, it
became that point that he waslike, I have to choose which
role I'm gonna take.
But the problem was is thatright after she died, he became
head captain.
(07:23):
He wasn't head captain at thatmoment.
This is one thing that theydon't really quite mention.
He was not the the head ofeverything when his wife had
died, um, before his wife haddied.
He became that right after shedied.
So he had to choose what was hishead cannon gonna be, and he
wound up choosing to be the firmfather because he felt that that
(07:43):
was the best way in order tohelp his daughter push forward,
which is the truth, it did windup helping, and that's why she
was always so happy every singletime that he would mention, I'm
proud of you, you're doing agood job.
Like he would be that firm hardhand onto her at times, but he
was always hurt on the inside ofhaving to say that.
And that's one thing again, likeit's mentioned more in the
(08:04):
manga.
They don't show that in theanime.
Like when he wound up going offon her, it was like, You got to
hold yourself high, you know,you gotta hold this family name
strong, and things like that.
He actually hurt him, he he washurt saying that.
He didn't want to say that toher, but he was like, I have to
play this card in order for youto push stronger.
He's like, I can't baby you inthis situation, we're in a life
(08:26):
and death situation, and ifyou're really wanting to do
this, no one's gonna hold yourhand.
You're gonna be in a momentwhere you're gonna be fighting
these kaiju, you could die atany moment.
Nobody's gonna hold your hand atthat point, it's just gonna be
what it is, and so it's like itthat's where it becomes more
intense because the pacing ofthe manga is really good because
(08:46):
it does intensify that moment.
Um, I will say so.
Season two feels off the reasonbeing is because they cut it too
early.
So there's a couple things thatI'm gonna just mention.
Kafka at the very beginning ofseason one had a dream of him
going ballistic and attackingeveryone, right?
(09:08):
And you know that that's a fearthat he has that he can't
control himself after he foughthead captain Xinomian and lost
himself, so he's scared of thathappening and stuff.
There's further into thatbecause that also him losing
control ties in to when he wasin the shrine and he wound up
seeing an old samurai shogunatethere.
(09:33):
So the thing about it is is thatat this point in the in the
show, we're supposed to there'san explanation of why it is
Kafka was the one that waschosen to be kaiju number eight.
Because at the very beginning,the monster showed up and said,
I finally found you, and thenboom, inserted himself into him,
and Kafka became Kaiju numbereight.
(09:54):
And he's like, Okay, but why me?
This is actually the point thatwe're supposed to get that
answered.
All this is starting to set upfor it, they're dropping hints
into it, and we're supposed toget an answer that's supposed to
piece things together.
The reason that the pacing forseason two sucks is because they
cut it at 11 episodes, which isthe worst point to cut it at.
SPEAKER_03 (10:13):
Because it's a weird number to end it on.
SPEAKER_01 (10:16):
It is, it's a very weird number.
The thing about it is that theywanted to end it when he showed
up because remember, the way itwas set up with season two is
that he's not there the entiretime.
Like he's there, but he's beingheld back, and it ends with him
finally saying, Forget it, I'mjoining the fight.
And then they're like, Allright, we're gonna cut the
season right there.
But it's like, no, that'sactually the worst part.
SPEAKER_03 (10:36):
Hold on, can we talk about that real quick?
That one panel when he turnsaround, you see that glowing eye
and whatnot.
I've been hearing that a wholebunch of people like criticizing
the way he was he's looking now,and I'm looking oh, okay, hold
on, hold on, hold on.
All right, first of all, hismanga appearance was like he his
face is like sharper, like hisfirst with the jaw on and
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whatnot.
SPEAKER_01 (10:59):
But with the anime, do what now?
I'm green.
The animation um is lack had uhstarted lacklustering off in
season two than season one.
But yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
Gotcha.
But honestly, with him in theanime, where it seems like his
um features are more like squareand blocky, I was thinking, I
don't know.
I mean, I'm not tripping.
I mean, I like the way he lookedin the manga, but like with the
anime version, I'm like, well,at least he looks like he could
(11:34):
be in his 30s.
Like, yeah, I'm not I'm just nottripping about it.
Just you know, I just that's aweird thing that they're
reacting to it now.
It's like okay, uh, but to befair, sometimes like some
reactions gets a little well, Idon't know.
Because on the one hand, likeyou always look like that in the
(11:54):
anime for a while, and they waituntil now to uh can can I
mention this?
SPEAKER_01 (12:01):
This is also why I say episode 11 was the worst
part where they cut it off atbecause there is an explanation
that was given in the mangaright after this moment.
So and let's just be clear, wealready know how this is gonna
go out.
So it's not really a spoiler,okay?
He's gonna wipe the floor withthat other kaiju.
We know this for a fact.
That's that's just a given.
(12:22):
He's he's the anime heroprotagonist that showed up at
the last minute, and this is noteven the fight that he's looking
for.
Number nine is happy because hejust found out that he popped
up.
That fight is good, the fightbetween Kafka and number, I
think it was a 12 or somethinglike that.
That's gonna be a quick behindfight because number nine is
gonna pop up.
He's like, I finally found you.
We know that's gonna happen,even if you didn't read the
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monk, it's very clear andobvious.
Here's the thing about it (12:44):
the reason people were upset about
it, about the animation, abouthow he looks, is because there's
two things that they mentionedthat happens to him with his
constantly transforming.
First off, you notice he's gotthe scar on his hand.
They're noticing the fact thatif you keep if he keeps
transforming, he's not gonnatransform back.
(13:05):
There's a little bit more of areason into that, and it's
actually really good how thewriter did this.
And I I don't want to spoil it,but it's just there's a whole
thing into that that was like,wow, that's actually an amazing
uh how you did how that workedout for me.
But the thing about it is it'shim transforming, is also
changes how he looks in hiskaiju form.
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His kaiju form becomes sharper,he gets more spikes as he
continues to transform morebecause his body is turning more
kaiju.
So when he first turns kaijuform, you understand that he
only looks, he looks like amenacing kaiju when he gets
really angry.
But when he's goofy, he doesn'tseem like that goofy.
He doesn't seem like that.
(13:46):
It's like, oh, you know, he'sjust kind of he has a kind of a
roundedness to it.
SPEAKER_03 (13:50):
Hold on, now that you're saying it like that, it's
like it's kind of reminding meof the same relationship Eddie
Brock had with Venom, exceptit's not like two voices.
Well, it's not like uh buddywith a Kaiji number 10 suit
where it's like okay, it's twovoices and they're kind of uh
fighting each other in a way ina comedic fashion.
It's funny how they call it,they even call them a comedic
(14:12):
duel, and I'm like thinking, oh,they are that's so Eddie and
Venom.
But yeah, in this case, they didit.
SPEAKER_01 (14:19):
More explanation of manga there too.
Continue, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (14:22):
But in this case, it's like okay, it's more
symbolic to wear, like, oh, youknow, like in Spider-Man 3, you
know, like with the SymioSpider-Man suit where he kept
wearing the suit, and hisattitude kept shifting and
whatnot.
He started getting more lethaland whatnot, and he was like,
Whoa, hold on, let me take thisshit off before I go down a path
that I can't um come back from,and that's pretty much his
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struggle right now with Kafka.
Yeah, at least that's myimpression of where I'm getting
from.
SPEAKER_01 (14:52):
That's that's pretty much what it is, yeah.
Because the thing about it isthat the kaiju is still a menace
in itself, the kaiju is its ownentity inside of him, it's
resting inside of him, but thekaiju is purposely relinquishing
control.
But understand this you evernotice the fact when number nine
comes out, Kafka kind of loseshimself a little bit.
(15:14):
If you notice the fact that whenKafka actually gets very upset
and angry, he starts losingcontrol of the kaiju a little
bit.
There's a reason for that.
There is a reason for that, andthat's the reason why he was
chosen to be a kai, chosen to bekaiju number eight, is because
of his patience that he has,because of his kind heart, type
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of thing.
They couldn't choose any otherperson, so it's that's kind of a
spoiler.
Forgive me onto that.
It is kind of a spoiler intothat.
Anybody just like with KingdomHearts, anybody could have had
an opportunity of being thechosen Keyblade wielder, anybody
could have been kaiju numbereight, but the problem is
because of how kaiju numbereight came to be, which I would
not spoil, because of how kaijunumber eight came to be, only a
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person of a kind, pure heartcould control it.
And that's why they sought outKafka, because of his
persistence, his diligence, andhis kind nature.
That was the thing about it.
So it was a particular reasonwhy he was chosen into that, but
again, you that's why I'm sofrustrated they cut off at 11.
(16:24):
Because right after this fight,he has a conversation with
number nine, because number nineknows why Kafka is kaiju number
eight, and he even makes amention to him about he makes a
he says something to him, andI'm not gonna say what it is
because it would give a look,it's not gonna give a little bit
of spoil, but it will alsoexplain to you why I say I hate
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that they cut it off because ithappens literally right after
that quick fight.
Number nine shows up and talksto um talks to Kafka, and he
literally mentions something,and Kafka's like, What are you
talking about?
And that is what sets a wholelot of like wait.
Those dreams that he had, thatthat was a sign, though those
were messages, that wassomething for him, and that's
when like this is the worst partto cut it off.
(17:06):
It's like you teased everything,it's like imagine you're cooking
a dish and you pulled out allthe seasonings and then you
didn't cook anything.
You're just like, so you'regonna use this, you're gonna use
this, you this, and this is allthe ingredients that you need to
make the dish, and then you cutthe video, and you're like,
wait, you're not gonna show mehow you made the dish?
No, no, I'm just gonna show youthe ingredients.
Why would you do that?
It feels good.
(17:27):
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (17:29):
It's crazy that you're saying this because you
know how we normally get anannouncement of when uh the next
season is gonna be in productionor whatnot, or if there's even
gonna be a uh next seasonconfirmed.
We didn't get that this timearound, and that makes it even
more concerning.
SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
Exactly.
Because it was just like thiswas a horrible part to pace off.
Like I could excuse theanimation thing until because
yes, he's supposed to look moremonstrous as he transforms
because he's becoming more ofthe kaiju the more he
transforms.
But then the other issue becomesis there's so much, there's so
much story is there.
Like I'm gonna mention you saidold buddy with um uh was the
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captain with the kaiju number 10suit.
unknown (18:11):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (18:12):
Remember, they call him the comic duo.
So here's the thing (18:14):
do you know when it is that their
synchronization increased?
Do you know what it was that thecaptain did in order to make the
synchronization increase withnumber 10?
SPEAKER_03 (18:24):
Dang, oh I know my throw on board is I'm throwing a
point.
SPEAKER_01 (18:28):
It wasn't because they didn't explain it.
They just he just did something.
He mocked him, and then all of asudden their synchronization
went up.
Why would that happen?
It doesn't make sense, right?
Yeah, and that's why I said inin the manga, they actually
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explained it.
What happened is that thiscaptain, he's great with
understanding people.
That's something about hisbackstory that actually, based
in the manga, we would have gotwe actually got his backstory
here, but I guess they're gonnapush it for later.
So I think they did change, theychanged that, but you understand
more of his backstory, he has anunderstanding of people.
So here's the thing he mentionsthe fact that he's like, I'm
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always stuck with theseknuckleheads, and he mentioned
in this no flash is kaiju number10, and then flash is Kafka, and
then Kafka is kaiju numbereight.
So I'm always stuck with theseknuckleheads who always want to
do things on their own pace.
He says, Okay, I can't die hereright now.
What I'm gonna have to do is forthe time being, I'm going to
have to let them do what theywant to do in order to survive.
(19:36):
So he actually that's the thinghe mentions into it.
The reason he mocks 10 isbecause he even says, Come on,
your main thing is that you wantto prove me wrong.
Because they cut out that littleconversation that they had with
10 as well.
Too.
When 10 says the reason he wantsto, the reason he chose that
captain, he says, I want tochoose you, he said, because
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nobody ever gave me a fun fightlike you.
I don't think anyone else isgonna have let me have fun like
you would let me have fun.
He says, I want to fight withyou because you earned me,
because that you because thefight was amazing, you didn't
cheat, and we have, and I hadfun doing so.
That's the thing about it.
(20:17):
That's where the synchronizationwas going off was the fact that
he was like, I keep trying totake control, and you keep
trying to take control.
It's that whole bleach, um,Ichigo versus his hollow, where
it's like, who's the horse andwho's the king type of thing.
Both of y'all battling to be theking and the horse type of
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thing.
And it was that moment of like,I have to become king by letting
my horse do what it's supposedto do.
I've already given my horse thepath.
I need to let it ride now.
I've told the horse, hey, we'regoing there.
And the horse is like, allright, we're gonna get there,
but we're gonna get there myway.
If I've already given it thedestination, let it do what it's
gonna do.
That's reasonable.
(20:57):
He he always challenges themconstantly.
He was like, hey, I'm gonna letyou do this.
I'm not gonna do anything.
I'm gonna leave it to you.
And he puts his hand, he putshis hands down, puts blade, um,
relaxes his hands with theblades.
He said, I'm not gonna doanything.
If any of them touch me, you'regoing to the scrap heat because
that means that you'reworthless.
And he keeps mocking him becausethat's what got 10, that's
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what's getting 10 excited.
Tin won likes to have fun, but10 likes to prove himself.
Tin likes to be like, I'm I'mthat about it guy.
Tin specifically mentions thereason also that he wanted to
fight is that he requested beingturned into a suit.
It's because he was he was toldthat he's the prototype.
Number nine told him, You're aprototype, and I'm gonna make
one stronger than you.
And that excited him becausehe's like Goku.
(21:40):
You mean you're gonna makesomething stronger?
I want to fight that stronger.
Tell me what that stronger is.
I want to fight that stronger,and that's who it is that he's
going up against.
Number nine purposely did thatto Tim because he also purposely
had 10 become a weapon.
Number nine is thinking on Aizenlevel, bro.
(22:04):
He's literally thinking on Aizenlevel stuff.
He purposely he knew Tim wasgonna want to be it, was gonna
want to be turned into a weapon.
That's the reason why 10 isthere's a reason why 10 is the
only kaiju that can maintain hisconsciousness.
They said they tried to removehis consciousness, but it wasn't
working.
Okay.
(22:24):
I'm like, there's so much,there's so much story that was
there, and I'm just like, oh mygod, you cut off it at the wrong
time.
You cut out some backstory.
Because remember, I mentionedbefore that I was like, I
thought I thought maybe theywere adding extra fluff, but I
was like, why would they dothat?
There's enough, there'sliterally enough content to make
a season two, season three, butthis could be a three-season
anime and be done.
(22:44):
Um, which no, they're drag,they're gonna drag it out four
seasons with how they're doingthis pacing, which is absolutely
terrible.
Um I fully agree with you onthat one.
Like, why would you cut off at11?
Like, why wouldn't you just makeit 24 episodes or something like
that?
Like, this literally could bethree seasons done and be.
SPEAKER_03 (22:59):
I can't forgive it if season three was like half a
year from now, like then todance where it's like, okay,
give us six months.
See, I mean, if you like plannedit ahead of time, where like
okay, we're just kind of likepushing out a couple episodes at
a time and like doing like onceevery six months, here's 11 more
(23:20):
episodes.
Okay, fine, I can live withthat, but the fact that you keep
giving us 11 episodes, and thissecond time around, we don't
know when the next season isgonna come.
I'm like, uh that's crazybecause it's almost like they're
trying to stretch out um kaijunumber eight.
Because you just said that themanga concluded, in fact, it
(23:41):
concluded last year, if I'mcorrect.
Uh it concluded last year, sobasically you're trying to
stretch out the anime so thatway the overall uh conversation
about kaiju number eight as astory just keeps circulating.
SPEAKER_01 (23:57):
But I'm like and keep in mind as well how the
pacing, uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (24:02):
But I just don't want to be like, well, oh okay,
even though to be fair, it'sstill entertaining in its own
right.
But I just don't want to be likeWednesday to where two, three
years later, we finally get anew season, and I'm sitting
there like, oh shit, Icompletely forgot what happened
in the last season.
SPEAKER_01 (24:20):
Exactly.
And that's why I was telling youthat that's how it was for me.
When I finished the manga, Iforgot where the anime left off
at.
So I was assuming we werefurther ahead, and I was like,
oh shit, wait, no, we're notthere yet.
Um, hey, let me rewind my brainback and try to see what's going
on here.
So I'm like, okay, uh, let'slet's rewind it back type of
thing.
Um it's very aggravating to payand then keep in mind on this
(24:43):
with the pacing of the manga ishow how the mangaka did it in
order to make sure that he waslike not overworking himself but
still keeping a maintained pace,is that he would release uh
three to four chapters and thengo on a three-month hiatus.
So it was three to fourchapters, three-month break,
three to four chapters,three-month break, and did that
for like almost the entire mangaseries.
Okay, so in doing that pacing,still finish the series, the
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manga series, and the anime onlyjust now released season two.
SPEAKER_03 (25:15):
I'm like, wait, it's almost like it's almost like I
mean, I I don't really know whathappened exactly, I'm just
guessing, but if it was me, I'mthinking like, how come there
wasn't an anime adaptationsooner if this was gonna happen?
SPEAKER_01 (25:32):
Like that's the thing, and they did like when
they and when they startedworking on season one, sorry, I
had to move my mic a little bit.
Um, when they started working onseason one, they started working
on season one, uh, like not evenhalfway, it was way earlier than
halfway through the manga iswhen they started working on it.
They could have kept up with thepacing without having to do any
filler episodes and stuff.
(25:53):
Like there was no issues inwhatsoever for them to do so.
I I have no clue.
It's just it's literally just amoney grab thing, and it's like,
dang, don't ruin a good seriesto be a money grab.
Don't don't be so money hungrythat you start messing things
up, because then you're gonnastart losing a fan base for
this.
SPEAKER_02 (26:09):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:11):
Because it's like uh because the way even the way it
ended, it's set up to where itcould also be a um a second
series, kind of similar to umhow solo leveling concluded, and
solo leveling can um cancontinue on with being another
series, it's already started offhis next series now with uh um
also Juicy Kaiser.
unknown (26:30):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (26:31):
JJK has already um continued now.
We already understand who wealready found out which
characters have died and whichcharacters have come how are
still alive and stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (26:41):
Alien sorcerers.
SPEAKER_01 (26:47):
Jojo did it all.
That's all I'm about to say.
JoJo has done it all.
SPEAKER_03 (26:55):
Alright, um you got anything else you want to add on
to this season?
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
Yeah, yeah, just a couple things I know we're gonna
we're gonna close this out.
We didn't want to spend too longinto it because hey, you cut the
series short.
Um, a couple things just toquickly mention, uh, Kafka's
dream sequence that's longerthan in the manga, um, which is
kind of confusing.
I'm like, why the hell are theymaking so long?
And then you cut you cut theseries out like that to where
(27:20):
you're not giving an explanationshit.
Dumb as hell.
Anyway, so I there's not reallya reason for for that.
It is the animated the sequenceis longer than it needs to be.
It was very short and simple.
It was a very short nightmarethat he had, and trying to
figure that out.
SPEAKER_03 (27:36):
Uh, well, at least this season, has the same
problem that Danadan have, likewith both their seasons where
it's like they just ended on aweird note.
Like, okay, yeah, uh, like Itold Tonara in the Danada
review.
Uh, I know you were on seasontwo, but I'm just gonna recap
what I said on there.
Essentially, with season one, itended with okay, if they just
(28:00):
ended it with Okaroon and Gigifinding that secret room and
that's it, I'm like, okay, fine.
That adds enough, and that addsenough natural intrigue to it.
But what I didn't like about howthey ended it was they ended it
at the part where it's like,okay, Momo is getting gatored by
some old men.
I'm like, uh, I don't, I don'tthink that's the note you want
(28:23):
to leave it on.
And then season two, it's like,okay, they fought this kaiju
with this mech that made out ofthe house.
You know, if you've seen seasontwo, it'll make sense, like just
watch season two.
But uh, they ended it with, oh,turns out that there was this
girl inside the suit, and like,okay, her kissing Okaroon and
(28:47):
Momo just having to watch it,all right.
That's like interesting enough.
Yeah, like kind of like ragebait, but no, hold on.
The one thing I didn't likeabout how they ended season two
was that when you um not payingattention, you like you see the
house blow up behind Momo, andI'm sitting there thinking,
wasn't Iron in the house?
(29:10):
And and that's the thing.
If you read the manga, youalready know, but for people who
only watch the anime, they gottawait like a year or two just to
figure out what the hell justhappened.
So I'm just saying, like, uh,it's just weird how they be
ending these seasons on thesenotes, and it's like gonna feel
(29:31):
like those are gonna takeforever just to get answers.
We might that's why I toldTanara that sometimes anime
serves as a companion to themanga to where the anime just
supposed to drum up enters intothe manga because you know at
the end of the day, the mangasales is driving the whole
fucking thing as far as like ifthey even get funding for
(29:53):
producing the anime.
SPEAKER_01 (29:55):
Yeah.
And then also the fact that oflike uh sales of items and stuff
like that.
That too, like right.
Yeah, pacing is always gonna bea big issue when it comes down
to it because a lot of timesthese directors that they have
are not they don't know when's agood suspense point to hang out
that to end at.
They're like, okay, we're gonnaend at this suspense point right
(30:16):
here.
And it winds up being like,Okay, that's the worst,
literally worst scenario ofsuspense that you could have
ended at.
You have now made things moreconfusing than it's supposed to
be.
And you or you, like I said,like you did that analogy about
the food.
It's like you've laid everythingout, and then just everyone's
just expected to figure thingsout on their own, type of thing,
and no one's gonna do the recipecorrectly, no one's gonna know
(30:38):
what you're doing.
SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
You know what's crazy to make it a little
relevant to guys like me towhere, like, imagine the 3D
print community where you thinkjust because you buy a 3D print,
that's all you need.
Oh no, no, buddy, no.
Like, you need a whole bunch oftools, and you need to know
this, that, and the third, andthe 3D print community sometimes
act like they don't even want totell you, like, you're just
(31:00):
gonna have to figure it out onyour own.
I'm like, what the fuck?
SPEAKER_01 (31:03):
Yeah, or the gaming community.
Think about it this way.
Imagine Dark Souls, the tutorialwasn't even they they just
didn't explain to you what thebuttons were.
It's just like, hey, so there'sa button that's gonna tell you
to jump, there's a button of howyou attack, and there's a button
of how you dodge.
Good luck.
And you're like, wait, what'sthe buttons?
What you just you you gave youtold me that there's something,
but you didn't tell me anythingat all.
(31:25):
I'm like, yeah, that's thepoint.
That's where it becomesproblematic.
SPEAKER_03 (31:28):
It's like you you'll be better for it by figuring it
out together on your own.
I'm like, bro, that just soundslike an excuse for y'all to be
lazy volunting me theinformation, you know.
unknown (31:40):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (31:40):
You're cutting corners trying to stop lord.
SPEAKER_01 (31:46):
But yeah, that's that's what I got.
And then um, and then I'm notgonna spoil it into this with
us, but I'm gonna put it in thisaspect here to just kind of give
some hints into the questionthat you asked earlier.
Um, Shinomia by throughoutseason two, should um head
captain Shinomia is not fullydead yet.
As you can see, he's like theyconstantly show him, they still
show him like in the pool ofwater and stuff like that,
(32:08):
right?
Um, because his subconsciousnessis still alive, but he keeps
mentioning that he's purposelytrying to hold on.
So there is a relevance for whyhe's doing so.
There is a thing about it isthat um number nine mentions
specifically, he says there's acooldown period every single
time that he assimilates someoneinto his body.
He said there's a cool downperiod, and keep in mind the
(32:30):
fact that he knew he was aboutto die right after he absorbed
the head captain because he hadto go up against Kafka and um I
can't remember old buddy's name,but uh is is Ren.
Yeah.
Um Ren about um because both ofthem were tearing his ass up
like left and right type ofthing.
(32:51):
He was about to die that fight.
SPEAKER_03 (32:53):
Were you talking about the um captain of the
birth division?
SPEAKER_01 (32:57):
Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (32:58):
Oh, again, yeah, with the D.
That's what again.
SPEAKER_01 (33:01):
Yeah, so they were about to kill him.
He knew he was about that's whyeven um number nine was like, Oh
shit, you said I should startoff with this the first place.
He says, Y'all won't leave,y'all won't let nobody die, and
that's my chance to escape.
But it would they was about tokill his ass right there, like
in even in the manga, it was thesame way.
Number nine was like, Holy shit,I'm about to die.
He was like, Yo, this is this isnot what I planned for.
(33:24):
I didn't think this wouldhappen.
And he's and then he but the inthe manga he says this that he
doesn't say in the anime.
This assimilation is takinglonger than it should.
So I'm gonna leave it on thatnote.
Leave it on that note if thatthat still doesn't answer your
question.
Like I said, I don't want tospoil it for you.
SPEAKER_03 (33:42):
No, yeah, so there we go.
SPEAKER_01 (33:46):
That's all I got for for season two.
I guess it there's there's alot, but the problem is there's
a lot that is not removed, theydidn't remove anything, it's
just they cut it off at aterrible time.
SPEAKER_03 (33:58):
So yeah, season three.
SPEAKER_01 (34:00):
Anybody?
SPEAKER_03 (34:01):
That's that's just yeah, that's the main thing.
It's like you are leaving a lotof information out depending on
a season three that you didn'teven announce yet.
That's the weirdest thing.
That's the weird part for me.
But um, I'll say that, you knowwhat?
I want to say I'm still gonnaKai N Ray is still an eight out
(34:23):
of ten overall for me.
It's like it's it got so it'slike I wanna like you, I really
wanna like you, but you're justnot there yet.
SPEAKER_01 (34:34):
And again, this is not the writing of the story
part, like the story writing isfantastic.
Is it perfect?
No, nothing's perfect, but it'sreally fantastic.
It's just it's this the studio,the anime studio's paste, it's
just a bad place of cutting off.
It just if you want to, I guessyou could do what I did.
Like when season one ended, Iwas so excited.
(34:54):
I just like I couldn't wait.
I was like, I want to read it, Ijust want to go ahead and read
it, especially after the time.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
Now because I'm uh uh you ain't gonna keep uh blue
balling me with these seasonfinales.
Um uh-uh, I might as well justread the manga.
Fuck it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:11):
Pretty much, but yeah, that's like I took exactly
the note that Tylos had said atthe end of season one of Kaiju
November.
He's like, he said, Jerry, justread the manga.
SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
I'm like, you know what?
I got you.
He said, Coke, read the manga.
I said, I'm gonna read themanga.
I read the manga and I'm like,oh my god, this thing is
amazing.
I said, uh, doing the threemonths I ate it's no.
SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
But yeah, that's the this is one of those ones that I
don't I'm not at a point ofsaying, don't watch the anime
read the manga.
No, the anime is still good,it's terrible pacing.
This is one of those ones you'regonna want to binge it.
Like this if they're gonna cutwith them doing this pacing,
it's better to binge.
SPEAKER_03 (35:50):
Hold on.
To be fair, at least it's notlike chainsaw man, because I'm
like, bro, like how long ago wasseason one?
And I know the movies coming outthis year, but I'm like sitting
like thinking, how long wasseason one again?
And and I I I actually dove intothe manga and I'm like, bro.
Yeah, for those of you who onlywatch the anime, get ready for
(36:13):
some bullshit.
SPEAKER_01 (36:16):
Very true.
I will say this, uh it's a quicknote into it.
Chainsaw Man is already toppedthe Demon Slayer movie in Japan.
Um so really just yeah, theyalready released a whole article
about that where it's alreadytopped um Demon Slayer, and I'm
like, wow, okay, that's all thathype, all the hype.
SPEAKER_03 (36:36):
Well, I know it's like United States um boss boxes
or whatnot, but it's like allthat hype um by the numbers on
Demon Slayer, and then likehell, it didn't climb on it to
this day yet, as far as umChance on Men the Red art.
So we'll see.
But it's like it's yeah, at thispoint, Demon Swell Demon Slayer
is almost ending as an anime,anyways.
(36:56):
Like they're just pretty muchdoing movies at this point.
I mean, there it's not even thatclose.
Like, okay, I dove into themanga for Demon Slayer, so
that's why watching InfinityCastle didn't have a whole lot
of urgency because I kind ofalready knew.
Uh yeah, I I mean I'm stillgonna watch the movie, but I I
I'm just taking my sweet timegetting to it.
But point being is that they'regonna split up Infinity Castle
(37:19):
and the three movies, theyalready did one.
Uh the second one, I don't knowwhen that's gonna be, but I'm
guessing that they're gonna giveit like two years apart.
Uh, I mean, granted, ooh, whenthey explain how uh it took
three years to animate thebackground for the Infinity
Castle, but that's only becausethey got new equipment.
If they stuck with the oldequipment, it would have taken
(37:42):
10 years to make that shit.
And I'm like, oh, y'allunderestimate how much work it
takes to put into animation.
Like, well, but um, yeah, threemovies, and then there's uh
sunrise showdown art that's comeright after it.
But it's mainly just them upagainst Moose on for the most
(38:02):
part.
But I think what they're gonnado is that they might
incorporate that final arc intothe third movie.
That's just my theory.
Either that or it's like they'regonna make a three-part movie
and then one final movie, andthat's the sunrise arc.
Um, but yeah, like the way theyjust kind of stressing it out.
It's almost like they'd betaking notes from a tackle
(38:23):
fighting that's like, okay,let's just speed.
How can we stretch out thisfranchise for as long as
possible?
This each um having circulation.
I'm like, bro, dawg, like justcome on, dawg.
Like, don't drag it out.
Like at this point, like you'rejust pissing on people off.
Like, we kind of want to justget it over with already.
(38:45):
I don't know.
Like, some people want to ridefor as long as possible, but
hey, I'm one of those guys thatfeel, hey man, like, listen,
sometimes we just gotta get toour destination at some point,
right?
I know it's kind of hard to uhsay goodbye to one of your
favorite franchises of all time,but nothing lasts forever.
(39:08):
Unfortunately, that's just nothow it works.
But yeah, that's all I have tosay.
SPEAKER_01 (39:13):
Um, Kokey I do have anything else?
No, no, I already said that wasdone.
SPEAKER_03 (39:17):
Okay, cool, cool, cool.
All right, so dear listener,thank you for listening to us to
the end.
Kokey guys, thank you for beingon the show.
Uh, go ahead and have yourself agood morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good night.
But ultimately, do take it easyand remember to stay nerdy and
that great things are coming.
We are zoning up out of here.
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