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October 20, 2024 • 120 mins

Prepare for an exciting journey through the Marvel Cinematic Universe's Phase 5 as we dissect the latest blockbuster, "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania." Ever wondered why Yellowjacket came back as MODOK or how Pym Particles are reshaping time travel? We promise you'll gain fresh insights into these intriguing plot choices. With standout performances from Jonathan Majors and Michelle Pfeiffer, and Paul Rudd's trademark humor, we challenge the critics who labeled this film as "mid."

Curious about Cassie Lang's potential as a Young Avenger and her evolving superhero dynamics with father Scott? Our discussion reveals how this unique family unit navigates the complexities of superhero life, all the while avoiding worn-out tropes of the past. We also compare the film's narrative to the likes of "Tron Legacy" and "Rick and Morty," and ponder Jeff Loveness' influence on the MCU's multiverse trajectory. Our analysis uncovers how Kang's storyline might open new avenues for fresh characters, all wrapped in a layer of anticipation and humor.

As we peer into the horizon of Marvel's future, we can't help but express our excitement for upcoming projects like Deadpool, Wolverine, and Thunderbolts. Yet, we also voice our concerns over potential creative constraints in Deadpool 3 and the rumored Serpent Society film. The superhero genre faces challenges, and we offer a candid take on whether a break could actually benefit the MCU. Join us for a spirited dialogue, where we navigate through the complexities of character development, industry dynamics, and the ever-evolving landscape of superhero storytelling.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
and fuck what those critics were saying.
Agatha all along, that's comingup pretty good, like by episode
five.
Okay, like I don't hate it.
But now I'm now even moreinterested.
Huh, huh, hey, you didn'tupload those yet, shit.

(00:32):
Okay, what's up y'all?
Welcome back to the ZonePodcast.
We forgot to upload acompilation of the MCU Phase 5

(00:53):
so far and that would encompassfrom Ant-Man, quantumania and
leading up to Deadpool andWolverine.
So here's a compilation ofreviews that we made on some of
the those that's in the mcu,mainly phase five so far, and

(01:19):
for some reviews we already putout like either a solo review or
like it's already part ofanother compilation, like with
Deadpool, wolverine, so you cango ahead and see that and the
X-Men Extreme Review, deadpool,um trilogy for Deadpool,
wolverine, but uh, pretty surewe put out a solo review for

(01:40):
Guardians of the Galaxy 3.
As for the others, well, you'lljust have to stay tuned and
listen.
So here is Ant-Man, quantumania, the Marbles, what did we have
for television?

(02:01):
Secret Evasion, loki, season 2,what If Season two?
And echo.
Now we're gonna wait until, Idon't know, the end of 2025.
To agatha all along, eyes ofwakanda, uh, your friendly
neighborhood spider-man,daredevil, born again, iron.

(02:23):
And then what was it undermovies?
I know it was Thunderbolts.
What if there was one more?
Oh yeah, captain America, braveNew World.
So that's like two movies.
I already did Deadpool,wolverine, so two movies and one
, two, three, four televisionshows.

(02:46):
So bad, not so bad.
So, anyways, let's just go aheadand get on with the show.
What's good nerds?
It's jet black extreme andmirror jane with another episode
of the zone podcast.
And today's topic is ant-manand the Wasp Quantumania.
And before y'all get started, Iknow we're late, I know, but

(03:10):
we're catching up on phase five,so get ready for a bunch of
reviews coming out.
So, without further ado, let'sgo ahead and zone in on this one
.
Ah, quantumania, ah, quantummania.
People were saying that it wasgarbage, but I don't know, it

(03:32):
wasn't as bad as I was told.
I felt like it was one of thosethings where it's gonna be
either hit or miss and for me itwas kind of like somewhere in
between.
Most part it was not bad, but,um, at least in my opinion it
was not bad.
But you know how some folks arehave their criticisms and they

(03:55):
have like the long or shortvideos about their criticisms
and that's cool you know, Irespect that.
But speaking for myself, yeahmid.
It was kind of mid.
It was not bad, just not abanger.
Uh, mirajane, how you feelabout?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
me, me.
It was not me, it was actuallygood really.
Yes, it was good yeah I mean,I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm
just saying like I mean it made, though, in comparison to
what's been being put out, is itreally mid and okay?

(04:39):
We can't compare it to Loki.
We all know Loki's amazing okaybut compare it to phase four.
Okay.
Compare it to Loki.
We all know Loki's amazing Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
But compare it to Phase 4.
Okay, compare it to Phase 4.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is it mid?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Nah yeah, I see your point.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's not, it's not mid, it's actually pretty good.
We got great acting, absolutelyamazing acting um.
Jonathan may just did his thingas kane okay, yeah, yeah um,
though those tears for like afew minutes.
That crying face should havebeen a everlasting emoji.

(05:20):
Forever, or mean forever,because who cries like that?
He didn't have like the solosingular tear.
It looked like he had possiblesnot about to run out of his
nose but it just didn't come out.
You know what I mean?
He had that.
Almost my girlfriend broke upwith me crying face, but there's

(05:42):
a possible chance we might getback together like that was the
face he was giving, the emotionshe was giving.
Um, I think seeing janet vandyne, michelle michelle pfeiffer
as janet van dyne wasabsolutely flawless as a
character.
She was funny, she wasrelatable, as the mom you know.

(06:05):
So I think it was overallreally good.
I don't see how it could be mid.
I don't see why people'sopinions of it was so harsh.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I don't know what they wanted I don't know like I
think with some poses, likethey're just looking For that
Carbon copy Of the sourcematerial or at very least In
their opinion or theirperspective, a more airtight
Story, I don't know, I don'tknow either.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I think it was surprising To see Bill Murray
Like we got some, we got some.
Lord, like we got some, we gotsome OG actors in, we got some
new actors and actresses in.
Paul Rudd was absolutelyhilarious.
So, like I just don't know, I'mreally confused.

(07:01):
I was really confused by allthe hate that Ant-Man and the
Wasp got.
Like I just was, because Idon't know what, what, what's
the next step?
We get introduced to timetravel, essentially right to to
Pym Particles and how that works.
We get more in-depth knowledgeinto it and I don't know what

(07:23):
else could have been done better.
I guess that's what I'm tryingto figure out what could have
been done, what do you thinkcould have been done better?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
uh, well, I'm gonna be honest, like right off the
bat, did they okay?
In the first ant-man movie, yes, there was Yellowjacket and he
was the villain of that and itwas alright then.
But did he really have to like,not only come back but as MODOK

(07:56):
of all things, like okay, atfirst he was kind of
intimidating, I'm gonna behonest.
He was kind of even with thedesign.
Okay, the design wasn't thatbad, um, but up until he
revealed his face.
And then it just gave me, um,shark boy and lava girl vibes
all over again, you know, with,um, what's his face, with the tb

(08:20):
face and all that.
Yeah, yeah, he was giving methose kind of vibes and I'm like
okay, I mean I can move pastthat.
But it was kind of part towhere it just kind of seems like
he was going out kind ofpitiful at the end, I mean not
before he, um, you know,switched sides and fought

(08:43):
against king, not that part.
But I'm talking about how hewas defeated.
And then Cassie came up.
Darren Young, you can alwayschange.
How can I?
I'm such a dick.
There's never too late to be adick.
Really, really, really.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yes, really I will be honest, that joke was so
hilarious to me, I think, withsuch an intensity, that the
movie was kind of intense.
Really, when you think about it, the idea surrounding behind it
is really intense and I Iactually really loved modok and

(09:23):
and I loved it felt like anhomage to Spy Kids.
That role felt like it's kindof it definitely brings that
nostalgia value.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Wait, I remember.
You know what I thought for themost part that Quantumina felt
like.
Have you watched Tron Legacy?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
It pretty much played out the same way.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I mean, I know key differences, I know, but pretty
much played out the same way oh,oh, okay, uh, you know what,
now that you say that, um, youbreak it, you make it, you, you
make a solid point there.
It did play dang yeah greatcomparison.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I was like, look, I remember watching that.
Um, look, I watched legacy likedozens of times.
I like the film, don't get mewrong, but when you see it play
out in quantum mania, I like itjust feel like a reskin of it
and I'm like, okay, on its ownquantum mania is not bad, but at
the same time, not only was itso familiar to what I'm used to,

(10:35):
but also some parts where I'mlike and could, the whole mode.
I think that's what I'm saying.
That's the one thing that couldhave been different.
Um, I don't know, I don't know,I don't know exactly how, but
it just wasn't doing it for me.
All right, that was the mainthing, other than that.
Look the visuals of the?
Um, quantum realm beautiful,I'm not doubting that.

(10:57):
I like um gentora and laserhead, whatever his name was.
Lord Cryler was funny, you know, even though he was like that
double agent type dude.
You know, like in TorontoLegacy, the dude with the white
hair, the main character goes tohim to help, but he betrays

(11:17):
them more.
Yeah, played out the same way,what else?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
You know what was similar too, now that you
brought it up, because I did notpay attention to it and now my
my brain's like racing the, the,um, it was similar to when,
like towards the end, where, uh,the, the music was like very
similar to tron's legacy ending,like they both had an army,
they both were trying to escape,like if the sim.

(11:45):
The ending was really similaryou're right, because I didn't
think about it um, and just how,like when you, when kane being
trapped in the quantum realm andhe's actually trying to get out
, it's very similar to tronlegacies ending.
Dang, yeah, dang.
You might have just changed myopinion and I'm kind of mad

(12:07):
right now.
I'm sorry no, you're not.
You're absolutely not dang,because it's like.
Now I'm looking, now I'm likere-watching it in my head and
I'm like there's so manysimilarities, even like, just
even like the disappearance ofthe parent right, like that

(12:29):
happened, and because her mom,oh man.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
You know what?
I'll just say this Shout out toLittle Platoon.
He reminded me when I waswatching his critique on
Quantumania, Like oh, you knowwhat it did play out the same
way.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Shit.
Well, shout out to him.
But also I'm a little angrybecause you might have just
ruined my whole entire opinionon quantumania, and I'm mad
because that that took what 10minutes.
That's terrible, oh my god.

(13:04):
Because I really did enjoy it,I think because I did go to I
don't know if you saw it intheaters, but I did go to
theaters to watch it.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
So oh, disney plus yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I think sometimes we take for granted the ability to
go see these movies in theaterslike hold on.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
To be fair, I wanted to, but I just didn't have the
um availability at the time, soI got to him when I could we're
gonna start making this.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
No, no, no.
This is gonna start.
If I have to drive eight hoursto make sure we go watch these
movies in theaters, we're gonnawatch it because it's a
different.
I think it's a different vibe,I think the excitement you know
what, though, what I do?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
plan on watching madame webb in theaters you
better.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Oh my god, that trailer is sick yeah I it.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
It made me excited I mean like once again, I know
some people gonna be like oh,it's gonna flop, it's not gonna
do.
I'm like you know what?
Fuck it.
I will see for myself Becausehonestly it just seems
intriguing on its own, you know,like the spider ladies and shit
, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I bet it does seem intriguing.
I mean like what can?
I say man, I'm listening, I waswaiting.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I'm waiting for you to flesh that out, you know.
No, no, that was it.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
That was it I can't even lie, though I, I am excited
to uh, see dakota johnson asmadame webb.
I think she's gonna do great.
I can't even lie.
Um, you know, emma roberts isin it too, so I'm excited for
that.
And then, who is it?
Sydney Sweeney is also in it,and so they're rolling out.

(14:56):
I don't want to say the redcarpet, but I'm going to say the
purple carpet, or maybe eventhe pink carpet, if you will.
So I'm excited for Madam Web,I'm excited to see these girls
put on an amazing performance.
And no offense, I just hopethat it's no comparison to that

(15:17):
Harley Quinn movie, becausegoddamn birds of prey.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh my God.
I just thought of something.
If Quantumania played out thesame way as Tron Legacy, does
that mean MODOK is their Rensler?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Oh my god, yes, oh, oh, you're not wrong.
Oh, look at the.
And the color scheme matchesthe color scheme.
I hate you.
I hate you so much right now,because now I'm being Because I

(15:55):
drew the Spy Kids referenceright and I was cool with that.
I was cool with MODOK beingreferenced, but now it's just
like no, no, no, it was stillfunny.
No, your morals, hold yourstandpoint.
It was still funny.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I mean, yeah, like, okay, he's like the funnier
Rensler, so I'm like I'll givehim that.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
See, he is the funnier, dang it.
You're right, he is Rensler.
God damn it.
You know what we just gotta do?
A whole entire theory on tronlegacy and how the worlds are
connected.
It would make sense, thoughtime travel variant lines make
sense.
They're just playing out awhole different story with the

(16:39):
same ending.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
God, that's terrible all right, but for real, though,
speaking of which, let's justgo ahead and dive into the story
.
So, essentially, with our boy,scott lang.
He's, this not exactly auniversal hero, but more like
people now know him well enoughto be like, hey, it's spider-man

(17:02):
, like well, close enough, andyou know he has his memoir and
he's married.
I don't think he's married, butlike at least in a relationship
with hope, and you know thingsare good.
But then he gets a call fromthe um jail saying that, oh,

(17:23):
cassie got locked up, and likewhat you got locked up for, I'm
like, oh well, you know umpolitical activism, used um pym
technology to um strunk a car,that um cop car, and like to be
honest, cassie has some pointsthough, like the fact that, okay
, here's my main thing, here'swhat I like about cassie, though
to an extent to where you knowhow there's this trope, to where

(17:48):
, oh, daddy's this big timesuperhero, blah, blah, you don't
got time for me.
But with cassie she did theopposite, where she was like,
dad, you're a big time superhero, you should be helping people.
And he's like no, you know,don't y'all want me to stick
around, you know, be there.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like no, do your thing like she did kick him out.
She was like, man, get out ofhere, go be that superhero that
you know you want to be.
Yeah, I was like no, we're goodlike I mean, I think the
difference is too is that shealso had an amazing support
system, like she had uh, hopehis girlfriend, she's there.

(18:30):
She had the grandparentsthey're there.
So I think it's different whenyou have.
I think they kind of broke thattrope a little bit because they
made sure she had a supportsystem.
So her saying, like nah, dad, Idon't had a support system.
So her saying like, nah, dad, Idon't not, that, I don't want
you, but you can go.
I'm a big girl now, so I'm I'mgood, you know yeah, and plus

(18:54):
she did, you know, she wentthrough the snap, yeah.
So, and I'm glad they didn't dothat trope, I'm glad they
didn't do the whole trauma oh mygod, he was gone for five years
.
I'm sorry, I know that's, Iknow that sounds terrible, but
I'm glad they didn't do thattrope because it's kind of been,
it's kind of been done, it'skind of overdone at this point.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I feel like that would water down Cassie's own
character development.
So I'm kind of glad they didn'tdo that either.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
What I also liked about Cassiewas that she was very witty.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Her comebacks were absolutely hilarious and we know
Scott as the person who's wittyand he has the banter.
But I'll be honest with you, Ifelt like Cassie held her own
and kind of at some pointovershadowed.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I'll be honest with you, I felt like Cassie
held her own and kind of at someovershadowed, like she was
definitely held her own yeah, soyeah, I definitely like Cassie
now that she's like growing upand she's gonna be one of the
Avengers like ah shit, I didn'twatch the Marvels yet, but a

(20:02):
good thing that's coming out onDisney Plus on February 7th.
It's one of those.
Once again, I know, I knowshould have seen it in theaters,
but I missed it.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hey, I'm not going to get on you about that one.
I missed it.
I ran into some schedulingissues myself.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
But point being is that when I approach on
quantumania I'm sorry I'm brainfarting right now I kind of
forgot my point um, what cassieI I did like on, did like when

(20:45):
they did where.
Oh yeah, I was saying with theMarvels, where, I know, post
credit scene, miss Marvelrecruits Kate Bishop for the
Young Avengers, and you know,it's only the entire time before
they get Cassie and all theother young Avengers.

(21:06):
That's what I was getting at.
Yeah, that's what I remember,but, yeah, like, personally, I
think she would be a greataddition to that team.
And you know, here's my thing,though.
And, mirajan, I know how youfeel about this whole.
I don't care about this MCU.
And, mirajan, I know how youfeel about this whole.
I don't count with this MCUtalk.

(21:30):
But, um, honestly, with theYoung Avengers, if it happens to
be mostly girls, I'm cool withit, like, as long as it's not
like one of those things when,okay, y'all are putting these
Lady Superheroes on thisPedestal and Trying to dumb down

(21:56):
and Make the Male charactersobsolete at the Same time.
I don't like that shit.
It's like you don't have to putdown one side Just to elevate
another.
That's what I don't like, thatshit.
It's like you don't have to putdown one side just to um
elevate another.
That's what I don't like.
That's what I like about umquantumania, to where it didn't
felt like with cassie.
She was like high-roading umher father just for no reason.

(22:19):
It was more like she washigh-roading him within good
reason, like there was this, youknow, in multiple cases where
this guy was like man, don't youwant to go home?
Like we don't have to worryabout all this shit, and Cass is
like no, because this could bea potential threat to our world

(22:40):
and I think we should handle itbefore it gets worse.
But you've seen the ending towhere you know.
The Council of Kings gottogether and went oh well,
ding-dong, the witch is dead.
Now we can go plot it.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
That part was so funny.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
You know, start this whole multiversal war, this
incursion, Whatever.
But oh man, okay, speaking ofwhich, let's talk about Kang.
Like you said, johnson Major'sPerformance as Kang Was really

(23:23):
good.
My favorite part was when thebackstory with him and Janet,
and essentially he was trying tobuild his machine so he can
escape the quantum realm.
But at the last minute Janettouched the multiversal core and
she saw the memories that hehad and oh, it turns out that

(23:45):
he's this monstrous conquerorand what not.
And he was like yeah, yeah, Igot no shame in my game and
that's who I am, so you're goingto help me finish this thing,
or what?
And she was like, no, I don'tthink I will.

(24:06):
And he was like Janet, what areyou doing?
What are you saying?
And then she was going to runaway and I was like give it to
me, give it to me, janet.
And then she was going to runaway and I was like give it to
me, give it to me, janet, listen, listen that moment.
Honestly, I actually ended uplaughing.

(24:28):
I was like, hey yo, I know it'snot funny, but the way he said
it just kind of tickledsomething in my brain.
I just like the way he said itthough pickled something in my
brain.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I just like the way he said it, though I'll be
honest with you, I don't thinkJane really wanted to run away.
I'm just saying like until thatmoment.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Hold on that one part where I forgot where it's from
exactly, but you probably knowwhat I'm talking about.
It's a famous meme, that onepart where that lady was like
running away, like why are yourunning?
Why are you running?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
oh my god, that is describes the exact yep, that's
it like.
The other thing that wasinteresting and I also thought
was kind of funny about theirrelationship was that this now,
mind you, she just really hadgot lonely because she decided
to help a complete stranger.

(25:27):
I just want to highlight thefact that she had no idea who
this person was at all.
Well, she was just like alright, I'll help you, like what you?
Just you just don't ask noquestions, none.
And I know kang was like youknow not, he didn't quote
unquote, have his uh memories,or he seemed to be just this

(25:51):
innocent traveler who's lost intime or whatever.
Right, like I get it.
But she didn't think to go andtell nobody.
Like, hey, bruh, this dude justlanded here.
I don't know what he doing.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I mean, keep in mind that at the time she did not
know the layout that well, so itwas more about okay, um, I
layout that well.
So it was more about okay, um,I fucked up royally and I need
to run away.
So eventually she probablyfound some other people and it

(26:28):
was almost like she had nobody,uh, before kang.
So it kind of makes sense whereit's like, oh well, you know,
if I knew people, even then itwas like, okay, they both was
like there like at the same time, like they happened to um, meet
each other, uh, crash landinginto the quantum room at around
the same time.
So it's like it's a matter ofcoincidence.
It's like, oh well, you know,since we're stuck in this

(26:50):
situation together, we might aswell work together to get out of
here, right?
So yeah, but you know, it'skind of easy For him to be like,
okay, as long as I don't Tellher that I'm actually this
Megalominical Conqueror, then Ithink she'll be Willing to help
me out, like you know.
I mean, I know the way out.
It's just, you know, I justneed to fix my ship, so you Help

(27:12):
me fix my ship, then we bothget out of here.
But I'm not going to tell youwhat I'm going to do afterwards
and I was like, hey, you want toget out of here, right?
Stop asking me more questions.
Stop asking me questions.
That's how we deal with myfucking.
You want to get out of here.
You want to get out of here.
You want to ask me questions.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Essentially, k is just holding her hostage in a
way, just like listen, you, youwant to get out of here, I want
to get out of here.
So so what's up?
Is you gonna keep askingquestions or not?
Yeah, like, but I think, Ithink, uh, that was a good point
in their relationship tohighlight, like.
I guess my point I'm making isthat why wasn't she looking for

(27:55):
other people?
And I understand, because shewas there first, but then after
him, like, yes, I understand sheruns away, she's trying to I
get that part, but before that,you wasn't thinking like maybe I
could venture out and find somepeople?
And then, even when you meethim, why isn't the suggestion
let's like, I know the focus isgetting out of here, but let's

(28:18):
maybe if there's others like youand me there's not the
equivalent of two people in thisspace why not venture out?
Let's see who else is out here.
Maybe there's someone else outhere who's just as lost and just
as stuck, you know, um that'sjust the thing.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I feel like there was like this tunnel vision,
because it was like, essentially, they were on the assumption
that they were the only twothere, so that just never came
across their mind.
But uh, hold on for one moment,what's up?

(28:56):
Tuck.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yo, what's goody Um we're doing good Tuck.
Professor Tuck, uchiha Namikaze, the third.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
Namikaze.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
You know the third.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Oh my god, oh wait, has your birthday happened yet?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Not till the 19th.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
I'm the black flash of the leaf village.
Well, professor Tuck, youshould be on site Cause I'm a
nigga.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, today's topic is quantumania.
Uh, we were.
I was just telling on mirrorjane how I was saying that
quantumania was it's not bad,but it's kind of mid.
But my main thing is um bro, ifyou watch tron legacy that
literally quantumania literallyplays out like Tron Legacy.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
True, yeah, that's a good analogy for it.
But, Disney will find a way toDisney stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Oh shit, I forgot Tron Legacy was a Disney.
Oh Funny, alright, but anyways,we were talking about how okay.
Other than that, visually itwas beautiful.

(30:32):
The character performance wasgood, cassie was good, kang's
performance was good and I wasgood.
Kang's performance was good andI was going to get to the point
, you know.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
The artist formerly known as Kang.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Oh, right, right, right right.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
He ain't Kang no more .
He's done with it.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
But now you know what the funny thing is If this was
his last appearance, well, asidefrom Loki, obviously.
But if it was his lastappearance, well, aside from
Loki, obviously.
But, um, if it was his lastappearance as Kang, then I'm
like him getting obliviated.
When, you know, on Third Act,and he got um kind of oblivious,
you know, got sucked into thatmachine, I'm like that's kind of

(31:12):
an appropriate way for him toget his exit, you know.
So that way, um, some new meatwill come in and be like Alright
, so I'm Kang now.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
So yeah, insert another black dude.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, and even then, I would have said like okay,
since, let's say Hypothetically,even if they decide to do away
with the whole Kang theConqueror Story a lot, it could
have been like okay, so Kang theConqueror Story line.
It could have been like, okay,so Kane the Conqueror got beaten
by Ant-Man Victor Timely, he'sJust doing his own thing in his

(31:46):
own Timeline.
So, as far as we know theevents of Loki we will Talk
about the events of Loki when wedo the review the events of
Loki could have altered Thingsto where okay, but the time
might not even End up becomingKang the Conqueror or he who
remains, or one of thosePowerful variants.

(32:09):
But you know, just this guythat just happened to know a
little bit about Time travel ortime manipulation.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Let me tell you where they messed up at, though.
Do this make sense?
Kang the Conqueror was defeatedby Ant-Man.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Man.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well, hold on.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
To be fair.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
But, no, no no, Hold on To be fair though.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Is Kang the Conqueror still, but wait, wait, wait.
To be fair, though, there's alot of but wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
To be fair, there's a lot of fans that was like wait,
what if Ant-Man Blew Thanos'ass and just expanded?
That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, there was a lot of fans that were saying that.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Ms, frizzle style Like right up.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Could we have just went through the mouth?
You know why did it have to bethe anal cavity?
I'm just, I'm just, that's theeasiest way.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'm not saying that shit.
I'm like, hey, so if that'sgood enough for most of the fans
, I'm like the fact that Kanegot snuffed up by Ant-Man.
I'm like you know what?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
now that I'm thinking about it, now that I'm
considering it not the ass part,you sure I'm considering just
Ant-Man and his powers.
If Marvel was like Dark, he wasjust crawling people's ears and
explode their brain.
You know what I mean.
Easy, easy win.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Or you could be like that one dude from season 3.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Nostril.
No, don't tell me that.
Don't tell me that I ain'twatched season 3 yet.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Oh you.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I actually just finished season 2.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Okay, let me just put you like this Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Didn't you tell me after season 2 to watch
Something else and then season 3?
Oh, I'm glad I finished season2 and didn't watch season 3 yet.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Okay, cool, cool.
But I'll just tell you thismuch it happens on the first
episode of season 3 and when yousee it I'm like why You're
going to be like, of all places.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I'm actually watching um.
I'm going to start Gen Vtomorrow.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Tonight.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'm watching Hasman Hotel.
Hasman Hotel.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
How many episodes?
Is it Eight?
Is it like an hour long each?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
no 23 minutes.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Oh yeah, I'm finishing.
Yeah, I'm finishing it.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I just thought I should mention that.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
But yeah, I'll be ready for a review on it, but
yeah oh, it's good.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Oh, I can't wait to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, as soon as you said musicals, I'm in Boom music
.
Speaking of music, Steve fromAmerican Dad, Isn't he amazing?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
When he did that whole Usher cover.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
The Trapped in the closet.
Yeah, wow.
But yeah, I think it would beshitty if we end on Ant-Man
defeating Kane the Conqueror.
That's like Crazy.
What I like was that they don'tVend on different aspects of
the universe Like, for example,the food Just exploring through
the different foods.
That they don't vent ondifferent aspects of the

(35:38):
universe Like, for example, thefood Just exploring through the
different foods that they waseating and whatnot.
That was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah, because I remember
they were at this like tavern orcantina and whatnot, Almost
like some Star Wars vibes goingon when they were meeting Lord
Cryler.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
And when he pulled up in there, he said how y'all
know each other?
Oh, we was lovers.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Listen that man said that with no shame.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Yeah, I was all in her guts for like a decade man,
but she talked about you, bro.
Bro, that's crazy, but we'vebeen fighting on sight.
What?
As soon as I heard that?
As soon as I heard that, bro,you are not my arch enemy.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Why arch enemy?

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Hey, it's over with.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Hey bro, I heard so much about you man, look here,
that's some crazy pussy.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Like I heard, so much about you, man.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Look here, that's some crazy pussy, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Like I was in that shit, like you know that's a
story For off the podcast.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Wow, yeah, I'm bested now.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
That's definitely.
That was a wild time thatbrought back a wild memory,
never mind.
The point I'm making is BillMurray was absolutely hilarious
and a thug for the way he saidthat he was for sure not
groundhog day what not havingthe ribs?

(37:18):
I was like you know, what lowkey that was a ribs oh yeah, for
sure that's a what you know.
Who's an unsung hero and one ofmy favorite characters from
this movie, veb.
Veb was my favorite characterFrom Batman.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
With the hands like no, no, not hands on.
He was like I have holes, nowyes.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
He was so excited About having holes and then I
just, I don't know for some oddreason, but I love the idea of
him and the goop and him havingand being able to allow people
to hear transversal languagesthrough drinking his goop bro,
like when I, when he was aboutto pop off, I was like thinking,

(38:13):
bro, this dude reminded me ofthe spot from beyond the spider
verse.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I'm like, oh shit, the potential on this guy now
exactly my point.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
He has so much potential and I just can't.
I know we probably.
I pray we do get to be able tosee him again, see more of him,
because he was definitely one ofmy favorites.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
But god darn it, veb veb definitely, uh stole the
show for me I feel like,depending on where they're going
with it in secret wars, I feellike that'll be like a way of
okay, now that um kane theconqueror is gone and the

(38:56):
Quantum Realm is probably goingto be under new management and
it's going to be all differentand shit In case Kane the
Conqueror is fucking things upon the higher realm where Earth
and whatnot.
Okay, the gang got to retreatthrough a strategic escape and
whatnot.

(39:16):
So we got to go into thequantum realm and regroup and
strategize.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
What did the movie remind y'all of?

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Other than Tron Legacy.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
It reminded me of Rick and Morty.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
To a degree?
Ooh, the fucking car batteryepisode.
Do a degree oh, the fuckingwith the car battery episode.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, and you know what's crazy?
Jeff Loveness is a writer onRick and Morty who also was a
writer on the movie.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Oh, that one.
And he's writing Kane Dynasty,who also was a writer on the
movie.
Oh, that wouldn't have been.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
And he's writing Kane Dynasty oh.
And he's friends with the dudethat wrote Loki and Secret War.
Well, writing Secret Wars, butyou know.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Oh, I was going to say wait, Then I must have
definitely missed something.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Writing Secret Wars.
Nevertheless, that's junk.
Crazy, how you know.
Oh, I was going to say wait,and then I must have definitely
missed something Right in SecretWars.
Nevertheless, that's jump.
Crazy how you connect, it'slike the red string effect.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
So you're telling me that we just watched a two-hour
Rick and Morty movie.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Wow, wow.
Okay, I'm the youngster, Idon't watch much Rick and Morty.
I haven't seen anything pastseason 3, first of all, let me
tell you something.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Muffin, muffin Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something aboutthis.
Hey, when dolls take over theworld, I'm gonna be friends With
all the dolls, cause ain't noway.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something aboutthis.
Hey, when dogs take over theworld, I'm going to be friends
with all the dogs, because ain'tno way I'm going to get snipped
, ain't no?

Speaker 2 (41:04):
way.
All right, Drake, for all thedogs I see.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Oh, for sure Because ain't no way they're going to
snip me because they got snipped.
That's why I would never snipmy dog because of that episode.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
You know what?
Let me go give my dog someextra dog treats.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I'll just get a girl.
I'll just get a girl.
At that point, no thanks.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
My dog's a girl so I'm like, so we cool right.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Tell them I'm cool.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Tell them I've treated you fairly Forever.
We slept together for 20 years.
What are you talking about, hey?

Speaker 1 (41:48):
you remember when I gave you the scraps Off my booty
?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Anna.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
You know what?
From now on, you getting steakA1 steak A1 day worth.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
You better be careful about that Jet Black.
They gonna be like no, no, no,you good, now when I finish
eating, you get my strap.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
That's so messed up, bruh, I'm gonna be so mad.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
I'm gonna be so mad.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
But no, I gave, I don't give a like like oven
baked chicken and shit, Like Imean not the whole chicken, but
you know like oh, oh, oh, oh, no, not the whole thing.
So what you saying is your dogeating good For real.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I was like dang he going to like Walmart buying
that rotisserie chicken?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Nah, not the whole thing, but you know like a drum
or a breast or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
you know like yeah, just gnawing on.
It fell off the bone, Damn.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I made sure I found we put like onion in like the
season and all that yeah it waspretty good I really appreciated
it.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
It was not the best Marvel movie ever, but way
better than like anything and Imean absolutely anything to do
with my arch enemy, oh don't youstart, don't you dare he who

(43:26):
must not be named, and I don'tmean lord voldemort why do you?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
why do you hate peter quill?
What did he?

Speaker 1 (43:34):
who must not be named ?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, I apologize, don't say the Dark Lord's name
like that the Dark Star Lord.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Tucker's like don't you ever mention that name again
?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Mr Quillipin, the third.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Well, yeah, I can't stand that man.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
It was a good show that's what's going on your
shirt.
It was a good show.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I do say that it was a good show until they ruined it
with Peter freaking Quill andI'ma just be saying, oh god,
tuck no that's no, no Tuck wehad a whole another movie

(44:35):
because of him.
A whole another movie.
It would have been a classic ifhe would have just did what he
had to do.
Forget that girl wow you shouldhave been on your Sigma grind
set Peter what does Dumbledoresay for the greater good?

(44:55):
for the greater good.
Hey, you really have Dorsey forthe greater good, for the
greater good, hey, it's what?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
You really have a strong.
We're going to have to unpackthis because I feel like there's
a deeper therapeutic reason whyyou don't like Peter Quill.
I feel, like there's somethingdeeper here.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
It's as deep as it gets.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
I hate his face.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
I hate his gloves.
I hate his gloves because theyblack.
Most of all, I hate that blackass, wesley Snipes.
He saved Marvel and heshouldn't have, or we wouldn't
have had this motherfuckingPeter Quinn.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
What is that?
You know what?

Speaker 3 (45:41):
it's provocative.
It gets the people going shutup.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Nobody knows what it means no one knows what you mean
.
That's what that means.
No one knows what you mean.
I think I have a headache.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
I was literally Crying, laughing.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
And I need a Tylenol.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
Wait, well, yeah, the music was good too.
It was.
I like that, you know.
What does that remind me of?
You know, when everybody cometogether, it reminded me low key
Of um, when everybody cametogether for Thanos On a lower
scale though.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
With not that many superstars, really no superstars
.
I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Um.
Well okay, no superstar.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
I mean it's.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Ant-Man Well, okay.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
What do you mean?
No superstars?
No, no, really superstars.
You know, captain Americawasn't there, iron man wasn't
there, loki wasn't there.
That's what you, no superstar.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Because it's called Ant.
It's about Ant-Man.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Okay, okay, okay.
And then Civil War.
A whole bunch of Superstars wasthere, right?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Because it was a Civil War.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Look, all I'm saying is, whenever you got a whole
bunch of Superstars, it's goodfor them to have a cameo.
They could have had Loki comefor a little bit.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
That would have totally messed up the whole
thing.
And that's what Loki do messshit up.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I don't know how he would fit in though.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
I don't know.
I would have took somebody fromWakanda, the bald head lady.
I would have took, uh, somebodyfrom wakanda, the bald head
lady.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I would have anybody uh what's his?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
name with the wings namor, like literally anybody
namor no okay, I thought youwere gonna say falcon, but to be
fair name no, no, not falcon,no, no, no, I'm gonna say um to
be fair, nam Namor no, notFalcon, I'm going to say to be
fair, namor has wings on hisankles and he can fight with
those.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
That's true.
Okay, not Falcon.
You know what?
I agree with that.
He a B-list.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Is it wrong that I don't like?

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Falcon.
Is that bad?
You know it's not bad.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
It's because His parents had a real good marriage
.
Really, it's not bad.
It's because his parents had areal good marriage.
Really, that's really what itis.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Because his he doesn't have enough character
development.
Is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
No, it's because his name is Clarence.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Alright, alright, b-rabbit, alright.
Oh my God, when did we startwatching 8 Miles?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
We don't take him serious enough.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
That's true.
That's true.
I don't take him seriously.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
He had a whole series and he still ain't taking it
serious.
That's why they didn't give hima movie.
They already knew.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Well, hold on.
They are working on a movie,but that's not going to be until
next year.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Man, that movie ain't coming to fruition.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Why are you putting that in the ground like that?
Hold on, that's funny.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
It's not going to have good beauty.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
No hold on.
It's funny that you said that.
Because you do have a point,because they just said in recent
news that oh, apparently, thesay that talk.
Because you do have a point,because they just said in recent
news that oh, apparently, um,the serpent society supposed to
be in this shit.
Well, it doesn't make sense tome because I was under the
impression that the leader wasgoing to be the villain, but
whatever.
But point being, the surfacesociety is going to be taken out
of the film and I'm like okay,if y'all like making like major

(49:34):
changes to script already.
This is not going to be good.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I mean that could go into the fact that they just
need to take a break from making.
They need to take a break frommaking superhero movies.
We need a break.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Honestly, I feel like that was what they were trying
to do this year.
Notice how Deadpool 3, which iscoming out in July, will be the
first MCU movie that we'regoing to get this year.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
And hopefully the last.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
I know it's not, but that ain't going to be the best
selling movie ever.
Well, hold on, that's what youneed to do.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I really want to believe that, but you know what
got me spooked?
What?
The fact that ever since theSAG-AFTRA thing, that Ryan
Reynolds can't improvise hislines anymore.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Oh yes.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I'm like no no, no, no.
They said that in Deadpool 3,you cannot improvise in Deadpool
3.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I know you lying.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Why?
I don't know what do writershave against Ryan Reynolds?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
What do they have against you know what?

Speaker 3 (50:51):
They will just change the script.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
You know what Exactly ?
That's not improvising, that'smaking changes on the fly.
You know you.
You have quelled my anger,professor tuck you have quelled
my anger, because I know, oh, hesaid some gold.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
Rewrite that stat right now right now because I'm
gonna be honest with you noteveryone's a great writer.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Not everything that you write is funny, and that's
okay.
But if an actor has the abilityto improvise on the fly, make
it funny.
It sticks, it lands.
Not only that, it's making themovie better yeah, is that
what's the point?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
is that unique to just this movie, jet black, or
is it like movies moving forward?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
uh, I don't know about movies going forward.
I only heard about deadpool 3.
Definitely, he cannot improviseon this because that's dumb
yeah, that's one thing I'm likewhen comedians go into movies.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
They improvise they know what's funny and what's not
funny, they know what's hit ormiss, so that would definitely
make all movies suck in thefuture.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I know why it's because Ryan Reynolds says the
things that everyone else isafraid to make jokes of so that
sound like a comedian, but nahyou know how they try to cancel
comedians just about anything atthis point make jokes of.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So that sounds like a comedian, but nah, you know how
they try to cancel comediansfor just about anything at this
point.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
Man, they can't cancel Ryan Reynolds he's
uncancellable like DaveChappelle.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Listen, that man is almost a billionaire, so fuck
with it.
I mean.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
And he got Mint Mobile.
He don't care about that, bruh.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Mint Mobile is his.
Don't care about that, bruh.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Mint Mobile is his baby.
I watched his commercialyesterday.
You can have as many phones asyou want for five dollars.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
But no, for real, though, it does have a point to
where.
What I noticed about society isthat once you have a certain
amount of capital, they'll justlet you do whatever the fuck you
want.
I mean, yeah, they'll just letyou do whatever the fuck you
want.
It's like.
I mean, like yeah, they'llprobably be like, oh well, we
can't have you in movies or TVshows anymore, but like, okay,
whatever, I got millions ofdollars, I could just go into
early retirement shit or he'llbe like you know what, I'll just

(53:10):
make my own and buy TylerPerry's studio or something and
he'll have blackjack and hookersand cocaine excuse me or
something, and it'll haveblackjack and boogers, yup and
cocaine, excuse me.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Oh, you're riding a white pony, son.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Ryan Reynolds could be like nah, i'ma do my own
thing.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Then you got Deadpool Productions.
He done bought the rights toDeadpool Like nah.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Hey, you know what?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
They'll sell it on cheap too.
They'll little cheap too.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
They were like yeah, you can have I feel like, even
though I can understand that, oh, they didn't know that it was
gonna be this booming uh well,at least during the first three
phases but I still think it waskind of a dumb move in hindsight
for marvel studios and whatnotto give out the rights to shit
like the hulk and-Man and allthat shit.

(53:58):
And then, as soon as they startthe MCU, it turns out people
like the structure of the MCUfrom the first one to three
phases and they're like, hey, socan we get those rights back?
We didn't know that we weregoing to pop off this hard, so I
really didn't feel like nah,nah, man, you're not gonna.

(54:18):
Um, I don't know.
It's like if they uh get way torise to deadpool, I'm like fuck
.
Um, well, there goes your x-menline the executives are dumb.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
they need to look at anime and follow suit what you
need is fan service.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I'm so glad you brought that up.
Fan service Wait a minute Wait.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
No listen.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I don't mean fan service like booties.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I mean, yeah, I do you do?
I was going to say, becausethat's just I'm also being like
you need to take what your fanswant into account.
I give you an example you getRyan Reynolds together and you
say, hey, I need Wolverine.
I don't need just any Wolverine, I need the Wolverine.
And then that man to come outof retirement.

(55:10):
And, in a similar fashion, weneed a blade movie with the OG
Blade and the new Blade bringingthem into fruition.
It could be something similarto like you know how like
Spider-Man was.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
It can be similar to that, and if they do this, I
want all my money.
Copyright by Professor TuckUchida.
I forgot my name for a secondUchida Namikaze, the third, and
if you need my legal name, justget me after this Jesus Christ

(55:50):
but, you did brought up onepoint where Disney should take a
note from anime, because thecreator of Mobile Suit Gundam,
yoshiyuki Tomino.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
he said not too long ago that the anime industry
would be wise to avoid themistakes that Disney is making,
and I'm like, hmm.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Don't give them too much, too soon Now that may be
tripping too, making us wait 18years for a second season of
everything.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I don't mind, though I appreciate the waiting.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
It's too long, but you know how it used to be.
You get your big budget moviesin the summertime, summer
blockbusters that give youanticipation.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah, they need to go back to building the
anticipation for movies, becausenow it's just like we just
expect them to come out and thenwe're so ready.
It's like people haven't evenhad a chance to like breathe
from the last one.
They're just ready to critiquethe next one.
They're not even like okay, isit gonna be good?
They're just like, oh, I can'twait to see how bad this is

(57:12):
gonna be yeah, they, they messedtheir money up by getting too
much money.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
That's disney in a nutshell.
You, you're gonna, you're gonna, have a trickle down.
If you, if you, uh, economics101, you got trickle down
economics.
You give them too much ofsomething, it's gonna be
worthless.
Right now, you, you hit us withdisney plus boom.
Now we got a place where we canwatch all your specific stuff

(57:38):
at a specific date and time.
You need to back up to what youwas doing before.
During covid, there wasreleasing movies right home
ticket.
There's releasing them for 20.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
You can see this, uh oh yeah, premiere access for
like 30 dollars, right?
Well, it depends on the movie.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
What was that movie?
That remake Dang I know thismovie I watch it Da da da da da
da da da, Mulan Dang, I couldn'tthink of Mulan.
That's when it became prevalent, right, when they dropped Mulan
and the price of it went up.

(58:13):
And then Mulan started sellinglike hotcakes, because who don't
like Mulan?
Right, and it was a good remake.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
It was decent.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
It was a decent remake.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I'm not going to lie to you, though.
Asian America band together,they said we're going to make
this movie a hit.
That's literally like I waswatching okay, I was watching
reality tv a lot.
Anyway, there was this showwith labor of love.
No, no no right, but I did watchsomething similar.

(58:49):
But that's also not the point.
The point is, the point I'mmaking is that they band
together for that movie, theyband together for Mulan.
They all was like we're gonnabuy it, we're gonna sit at home,
we're gonna buy for our friends, we're buying for our families
it.
It was definitely a collectiveeffort and it wasn't just

(59:10):
because, of course, it's anAsian movie, but because that's
how you band together andsupport a movie and I approve, I
honestly approve.
It was great.
I love Mulan myself.
Are we still?

Speaker 1 (59:23):
talking about the live action.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Yeah, I'm talking about both, because the live
action was decent, the music wasnot hitting, it was not there,
but I wish they would have keptthe original score, because that
music, oh that music yeah, Iwish they could have kept that.
I ain't gonna lie, I'm nevergonna catch my breath sake about

(59:48):
it.
Those who knew me.
Boy, was I a fool in school forcutting gym lord.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Jesus that ain't gonna lie.
That line hit me hard because Iused to cut jim.
That line just rings.
So true to me.
But you know, I kind of want totouch on this real quick before
I forget.
Um, when you mentioned thatmovies should take a trope from

(01:00:15):
anime, if you saw the horrormovie Happy Death Day, you
essentially saw the anime ReZero.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I didn't see it, but I did see ReZero.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
You see Happy Death Day.
I was literally in theaterswatching Happy Death Day.
Did they literally just copyre-zero and make it into a movie
?
It's the exact same.
The only difference is thecharacters are female and the

(01:00:50):
fact that, uh, she doesn't feelthe pain that, uh, the main
character in ReZero feels.
Those are the main differencesand, of course, like the killer
aspect.
But I just wanted to bring thatup because I don't think many
people caught that and if theydid, it was like six years ago.

(01:01:10):
So Happy Death Day is literallyjust a carbon copy of ReZero.
So I can't say that moviesaren't taking tips from anime.
They are.
You just gotta catch it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah, is there anything else on quantum media
that y'all want to talk about?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
I don't have anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
His wife was dying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
She's not going there .

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Why she couldn't hold it down.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
She thought she was going to die there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
So she couldn't hold it down like he was holding it
down.
He's going to have to a lot oftimes.
Yeah, I had a couple ofprostitutes.
Yeah, I had a couple ofprostitutes over the years.
He wasn't even ready for arelationship.
He was thinking about her thewhole time.
This dude done built a wholemachine thinking about her.
And what was she doing?

(01:02:15):
Getting tooted and booted.
They like toot it.
They like boot it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I know you can't see me, but my mouth dropped.
I can't believe.
You just said that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
I'm really upset with that.
That's messed up.
It's sort of like it remindsyou of Papoose, don't it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
oh, don't bring up my boy, pap no it's parallels.
It brings up similarities man,I just couldn't believe that I
was so mad.
Oh my god holding it down andthe first thing you do?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
no.
And the funny thing is I sawthat one video with um remy and
papu's on.
They were talking about oh, I'mdown for my man, I'll do
whatever it take for my man, butand then look what happened and
my man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Thank you to my man, Psyche.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Bruh.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
He revealed that joint like all the way open.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
That's crazy.
That rap battle was insane.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Yeah, it's crazy, bruh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
Speaking of rap battles, and how about this
current rap battle that's beengoing on lately?

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
how y'all feeling about that you already know how
that music is we not doing this?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
no, no not doing this , not doing this, not doing this
with you, you know what get upon your good foot, get up on
your good foot.
Oh, I got two good feet Forthis.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Megan ain't got but one.
Yeah, apparently it's a bigfoot.
Exactly, apparently it's a bigfoot.
You know what Big foot did?
It was premiered At number one.
Guess what it did After thatFlop and guess what?
His is Number one.
He was number one.
And guess what?

(01:04:22):
Man over there talk about deadmama like 50 times.
That's all she could say.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
That was not all she said.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Mostly she talked a little bit.
She said dead mama and madelike six bars.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
Mirjane.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Or am I wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
I'm just going to say this.
I'm going to say this what'sthe trash?

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Hey, no, no, no, no, no Hold on hold on hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
What's the trash Hold on hold on hold on?
Was it trash Hold on?
Let me get to it here.
Jay, I'm going to be honestwith you.
I listened to both and when Ilistened to Nicki's I was
listening to this.
I'm like did Mick hurt you?
Nick?
Because you sound hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
I'm sorry, it just sounds like, alright, alright,
alright, so this is what wegonna do.
What we gonna do is we gonnaput some respect on Nikki Films,
okay, because she not just hurtby Becky, she is hurt by
multiple female rappers in theindustry.
They have been bullying her,bullying her, bullying, bullying

(01:05:28):
her For years and she has notsaid a thing.
She ain't said a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Except all those different beefs she had with
everybody.
Aside from that, she ain't saidnothing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
She hasn't said anything.
She doesn't say anythingdirectly to anybody.
Name a time other than whenCardi literally assaulted her
physically.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
When did she physically assault her?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Oh, we gonna act like that shit didn't happen at the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Met y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
You talking about throwing the shoe.
She physically assaulted her.
She didn't just throw a shoe,it was a whole, entire brawl.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
A brawl.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Brawl A fight.
They didn't fight.
Yes, they did.
Who got beat up, nikki?
Oh okay, I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
And who threw a suit.
Wow, did the suit hit her?
Yes, the suit did not even hither.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Wow, wow.
So this is another instance.
Nikki ain't getting bullied.
Nikki has been getting bullied.
Nikki don't get bullied.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Yes, she does, she don't get bullied they put on
t-shirts and they go to work.
They have razors under theirtongue.
They from around the way.
Ain't no way they got bullied.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
She was getting bullied in the industry you
think Nikki gonna allow herselfto work?
They have razors under theirtongue.
They from around the way.
Ain't no way they got bullied.

Speaker 3 (01:06:52):
She was getting bullied in the industry.
You think Nikki gonna allow?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
herself to get bullied, nikki, she got bullied,
she got bullied, she ain'tgetting no bully.
You can't even give me aninstance where she hasn't been
bullied Every day.
Lotto recorded theirconversation and posted it as if
Nikki was saying something meanor rude to her.
Everybody do that, every day.
Nobody does that every day.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
If you are an artist or anybody in the limelight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Megan literally told Nicki Megan literally
disrespected Nicki and herhusband.
When does she disrespect Nickiand her husband On an Instagram
live when she literally toldNikki Nikki was trying to have a
baby?
She told Nikki Girl go take youwith plan B, girl go get you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
That's not funny, it was a joke though it don't
matter if it's not funny or not.
She wasn't bullying her, shewas saying a joke.
That wasn't bullying, that wasa joke.
Was it in poor taste?
Yeah, you know what I mean, butwas it a joke nevertheless no,
it wasn't funny and whathappened if Nikki?

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
as her friend, because she told her before they
started recording I don't,that's not what I'm doing.
I'm trying to have a baby.
I'm trying to get pregnant.
That's a friendshipconversation.
I'm trying to have a baby.
Why would you tell someonewho's trying to have a baby girl
, man, forget all that, go, takeyou a plan b, you can go to the
clinic.
Why would you say that she wasgoing to go to?

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
the clinic have plan b.
We're trying to have a hot girlsummer it does not matter that
that was a joke, though that'snot funny.
I understand and I agree thatso, but but this is that's not
bullying that is bullying,that's not caring about
someone's feelings.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
That's a disregard for the fact that she has a
husband who's in the other roomacross from them, who heard the
conversation.
That is a complete disregardand disrespect.
Megan's disrespectful.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
She has been disrespectful and all she had to
do was say hey, I don'tappreciate that.
That makes me feel some type ofway and communicate with your
friend.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
She didn't communicate that.
That ain't what happened.
She didn't communicate thatthat ain't what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
She didn't communicate that.
You done, skip a couple steps.
How about you done literally?

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You done, literally skip a couple steps, my nickname
ain't skip for nothing.
But that ain't the point.
The point I'm making is that.
And then, mind you, nikkidropped a whole mixtape during
2020.
Whole mixtape, no promo.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Yeah, was it good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
It was amazing.
You cannot tell me it wasn'tgood.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
I didn't say it wasn't.
I asked you was it good?
I agree it was decent.
It was slick decent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Seeing green.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Seeing green was good .
Shout out to Weezy.
Shout out to Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I'm just I'm literally just saying Nikki was
not dropping no bars aboutnobody.
She wasn't doing anything foryears.
All these girls teamed up onher.
They tried to quote, unquotemetaphorically and she's from
New York.
She used to jump in people.

(01:10:13):
Wow, when did she?
Even we don't have no proof ofevidence of that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
yes, we do, she's from new york.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Oh my god we're not doing this.
We're not doing this, but Iwill say this everything that
nikki said in her disc partyalready said.
I'm just saying for for meganto sit up here and everything.
You can look up everythingwwwlawcom wait a minute, wait a

(01:10:43):
wait, wait a minute.
Also, let's just be honest here.
Megan hasn't even given apologyto the parents of megan, who
have came out and said theydisagree with the fact that she
used that bar that way first ofall, the child.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
The children came up to the father and said that he
don't, and he said he didn'tlike the song because of what
she said after.
That ain't had nothing to dowith that.
Bar they trying to, they tryingto use spin that.
No, no, no they're not no,they're not.
They ain't mad at me, they madat megan's law.
Now tell me what'sdisrespectful about that in that
bar, what's?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
disrespectful, that child was sexually molested and
assaulted, and so what's the onethat her husband talked to?
Excuse me, that that was.
They were both 16.
They was under age.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
They were both 16.
They were both 16.
They were both underage.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
We're not going to do that.
I'm not going to do that.
I'm just saying Because if wego there, that's a whole
different conversation.
That is a whole conversation,because that's a whole different
conversation, because I knowquite a few 16-year-old boys who
should be in prison.

Speaker 3 (01:11:45):
They definitely should, because they were 16.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Because they were 16.
But they were dumb, they werestupid.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
But nevertheless.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
I'm just saying it was even worse.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
And it went over everybody's head.
They didn't even realize it.
Wait.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Wait, you know what else we forgetting?

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Nah, don't be trying to hit me with something hard
that I gotta look up.
Nah, don't be trying to.
Don't come to no realization.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
You know what Fine.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Nah, nah, what is it?
I need to know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Nah, nah, nah, since you don't want to you don't want
to look it up, but that'sanother case of bullying.
People have been bullying Nickifor years about her being with
Kevin Petty Because he's aregistered sex offender, even
though he served his time.
We, as the United States ofAmerica, have said if people
serve their time, they are dueto be judged fairly After

(01:12:48):
they've served their time.
He's served his time, but whatelse happened?

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
The same girl.
He's on the sex offender list,though for life.
He is on the sex offender list.
In fact, that's part of hiscrime.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
That's part of his crime.
He's doing his due diligence.
He's already been judged.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
No, no, no I mean he should be judged for it in and
of itself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
But he's already been judged.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
You have to look at that and say, hey, you a sex
offender, what you doing overhere with these little kids?
And then he can explain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
He's a registered sex offender for sexual assault.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
He has to stay 50 feet away from churches and
schools.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
He does.
But he's doing that.
Nah, he's doing that.
Nah, he's doing that with Nikki.
First of all, nikki is beingused.
So what does Nikki have to dowith Kevin Petty?
Nikki is being used becausethat's her husband.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
They are one unit and yes, she is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
So you're agreeing that she's being bullied Okay,
thank you by Kevin Petty.
No, she's not being bullied byKevin Petty.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Yes, he is bullying her.
If she was, you know whobullied her Meek Mill.
Meek Mill bullied Nicki.
But we don't talk about howMeek Mill did it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Meek Mill is a clown.
Meek Mill literally wasphysically abusing Nicki.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
So yeah.
So I agree completely,Everybody, Nicki done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Talked to that I know of.
I forgot about Meek.
Mill for a hot minute.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Yeah, you know.
Let's look at the datinghistory, since we're going there
who was before Meek Mill, nasand who was before that Safari?
All right, so let's look atthis.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Safari.
And let's look at Megan'sdating history.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're not going to speed pastthat.
We're going to talk about howmany times she busted it wide
open.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
At least she ain't busting it wide open for clowns,
excuse me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
So Party won the clown.
Oh wait, Tori won the clown.
The baby won the clown.
The baby won the clown.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
The baby wasn't a clown Listen, listen, linda,
listen, honey, listen.
Nas was the first clown shedidn't talk to and guess what?
Nikki broke up with him sayingnah, I need another client,
that's not what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
That's basically what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
They both came out and said it's a little different
, you can talk all her stuff upto.
She just young.
Nikki was young too.
Nah, nikki, nah, all of themrelationships.
She was not young, she wasolder.
She was older than Meg, olderthan Meg.
But that doesn't she was notyoung, she was older.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
She was older than meg older than me, but that
doesn't, she was still young.
Minded meg is young, young she.
She was still in college.
But okay, oh, oh, oh, so shehad she's college educated.
Okay, so she should have bettersense well, you know, you know
you know I mean the girls.
I didn't.
You know I was gonna say so.
What you're saying is thatcollege educated girls don't

(01:15:29):
have no sense.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Okay, I agree with you.
Hey, that could be smart, thatcould be book smart.
That's all I'm saying.
People got to use their commonsense.
Megan has outrightly said thatshe is I know a girl right now
right now with a master's andshe talked to some dude that
been in prison for like 15 yearsand he ain't never getting out.
But that's her boo.
She love him to death.
She ain't met him when he wasin prison.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
She ain't gonna never see him.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Is that in and of itself Good or bad?
That's up for debate, but is itkinda dumb?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Yes, Is it kinda dumb ?

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Maybe what you gonna get out of it.
You gotta spend money you can'teven get.
You can't even get more moneythan you.
You know what?
You still gotta lay your bedyou know what you know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
My only problem and I will say this, and I'm gonna
leave it at this my, my onlyproblem is that Megan's a liar
and I have a problem with that.
What did she lie about?
She's lied about a lot of stuff.
So did Nikki.

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
What did Nikki lie about?
Nikki played a victim ineverything, like she a victim.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
But she don't be a victim.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
She spread that lie to all the bars, saying she got
jumped by every girl in theindustry when she was throwing a
rock to hide her hand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
He literally did not throw the rock or hide her hand.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
She threw the rock, hit her hand and said what, what
.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
No, no, she didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
What happened?
No.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
And then started crying.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Fake crying.
She was fake crying.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Megan fake cried on Gayle King.
No, she couldn't cry, she fakecried.
She tried.
No, she couldn't cry.
She fake cried exactly.
She lied.
She's a liar and I have aproblem with that.
That's.
My only problem with Megan isthat she outwardly lied.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
But look though, about what would you display
everybody you didn't have sexwith for the nation to see she
does, would you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
she does, she does display it.
No, would you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
On Gayle King would you tell Gayle King he's asking
you to have a medical call.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
I'd ask all these specific people at these
specific dates, and I want theworld to know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Yeah, I would Shit fuck this.
I'm not going to lie on mypussy, I'm going to tell the
truth.
Yeah, nigga, I slept with thatnigga, I did as a celebrity bro.
You need to have some privacy,at least some form of privacy.
My privacy would have beenkeeping my legs closed.
Now is the baby a clown Likely.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Do I like Tory?

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
No so why is she with both?

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
At the same time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Is he like 4'11"?
Absolutely, but she like Tory.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Wait, is he, is he?

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
4'11".

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Absolutely, but she likes shorter, men Wait, is he
4'11"?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Wait which one, the baby or Taur.
They both short.
Yeah, hey look, hobbits needlove too, cray, but she has said
that she likes shorter menbecause it's domineering for her
.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Hey the rock, look like you know what I mean.
He said he want to be a pet sohe's 5'3" y'all.
How tall is the rock?
The baby or Thor?

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
No, Thor is 5'3".

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Dang, he ain't but one inch taller than me.
Dang, that crazy Boy.
I thought I was shorter.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Nah, he ain't but one inch taller than me.
Oh, the baby baby shorter thanme wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Y'all are tall, I'm 5'10.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
I'm not tall.
I'm 5'7 and a half on a goodday, but look though, hey look,
I'm taller than that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
I'm 6'3 you go ahead, I'm 6'3.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
I tell everybody I'm 6'3.
I will tell everybody that youare 5'7 and a half as you stated
earlier, I'm really 6'3, thoughthat's what I tell people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
I got to.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
I got to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
It's okay, I'm a shorty, I ain't gonna lie.
I kept trying to get taller.
The doctor told me I wasn'tgonna grow no more, so I started
crying.
Told that bitch she was a liar.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
The devil is a liar.
See, I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yep, just like Megan, Just a liar.
The devil is a liar.
See, I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Yep, just like Megan, Just a liar, yeah just like the
devil is a liar.
Yeah, just like Nikki.
She just knew nothing but lying.
She didn't write her own music.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
We're not doing this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
She didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
We're not doing this.
Megan doesn't write her ownmusic.
She don't have to she a bit tome, what Nikki wrote Monster,
that one song.
No, she's wrote a lot of herown songs Does she have writing
credits?
Yes, but she aptly admits thatshe gives writing credits.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Yeah, no, she said that she writes all of her own
music.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
She said that she writes all of her own music, as
in she writes her music and shehas help if it don't sound good,
it don't sound right.
Yeah, can you help me out?

Speaker 3 (01:20:41):
if I, if I can recall , on her mixtape holiday season,
she stated specifically thatshe write her own music.
Lil Wayne don't write her music.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
But as I look on the writing credits, she also swears
and says that she never sleptwith Lil Wayne, and I believe
her.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
A likely story.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Even Lil Wayne has openly admitted that he could
never get Dickie to do it.
And Lil Wayne don't remembershit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
He remember that One song she did with Wayne and
Drake is I Never Fucked Wayne,Never Fucked Drake.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
She even said in one of her newest songs she was like
.
I hope Wayne never forgets thatI never said it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
If I did.
I'm nice with him.
Let him eat my ass like acupcake.
She said that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
That line was great.
I'll be honest with you, I'vealways wanted to know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Never mind.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Exactly.
I want to know what that's like.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
What kind of frosting is it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
I like vanilla frosting.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Is it vanilla?
Is it like cream cheese icing?
I need to know.
Nikki get at me, get at theboys, I will see.
I will definitely do that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
And I'm not being petty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Time's up.
I'm just gonna put it to y'all.
Like this Nikki, put out somebangers.
No doubt, Megan, I'm startingto like your work.
I'm not.
I didn't really listen to hersongs as much as Nicki's, but I
did like His.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
not gonna lie, I'm like okay, nicki, I got a
question for you both, though.
Was Bigfoot trash yes or no?
No, it wasn't trash.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
No, you know you're lying.
No, I'm not.
The bars were great.
I can't sit up here and lie.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
How'd we pick you out and make?

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
you stumble to the car.
Bob's, I need a good alcoholbar.
That was the bar.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
That was the bar Hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
You know what's funny ?
I was scrolling throughFacebook and somebody in the
comments was talking aboutnikki's song and I found it so
funny.
Uh, this one comment said thatum bigfoot was just threatening
asmr yeah, that sounds aboutright, the ending of it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
For sure, I ain't gonna even lie the ending of it,
I can't even lie so dead mama,though, though that's messed up,
but no, she want to party withthe baby while rubbing on Tori's
toupee.
You can't tell me that shitain't hilarious.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
Listen so dead mama, though how many times do?
You have to say dead mama.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
She G-Eazy.
That's disrespectful Carl madeher crawl for it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
That's disrespectful man.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
She G-Eazy, she fucked G-Eazy and she G-Eazy.
Oh my God, can't lie and tellme her bars ain't close.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
She had six bars.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
She did not.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Okay, y'all For real.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
We gotta wrap this episode up.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Alright, alright, let's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
I know, ladies and gentlemen listening to this, we
pretty much ran out of steam forQuantumania a while back anyway
.
So you know, we said what wehad to say about Quantumania.
It was good, but you know, justnot a banger for me.
But with that being said, Iwill give Quantumania a 3.5.

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It was decent, I won't say mid,it was decent 2.9 Okay.
And, with that being said, we'regoing to go ahead and wrap this
up.
You already know the drill andremember that we're going to
have more reviews coming out.
Until then, stay nerdy, we arezoning out, take it easy.

(01:24:33):
Okay, nerds, it's time for alightning review on the MCU
secret invasion.
I'm going to be honest with you, the inner circle they didn't
get around to watching SecretInvasion and personally I don't

(01:24:55):
even blame them, because thisshow was meh, just meh.
Like you know, some of us knowthat live action adaptation is
going to cut corners, but thisjust wasn't it anyways.
Like something about the scrollplanet blowing up and fury was

(01:25:21):
taking too long to find them anew home.
So some of the scrolls becameterrorists as part of their
world domination scheme, like,essentially, they were trying to
provoke and instigate thisnuclear war between Russia and
America.
And then everybody goes to shit.
And keep in mind that, withradiation, skrulls are immune to

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radiation, so when all thehumans die off of radiation,
they'll be the only onesremaining.
Therefore, they pretty muchtook over the planet and the
main takeaways from it wasKhaleesi.
I'm sorry, but Gaia becomes asuper scroll, kills Gravik which

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, by by the way, I think he wasa fairly good villain.
Like I don't know somethingabout the way he talked and shit
, the way he carried himself.
I'm like, okay, it wasn't allthat bad, but it was still man.
Her father died.
Talos and the Skrull that wasimpersonating Rhodey tried to

(01:26:33):
fire Nick Fury.
And one of my favorite lineswas I'm Nick Fury, even when I'm
out, I'm in.
I'm like, yeah, I kind of fuckwith that.
Oh yeah, nick Fury also hadthis secret marriage to a Skrull
, so I guess he can join GrandpaMax from Ben 10 and Dick
Grayson from the DC Universe inthe I Smash Aliens Club.

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But yeah, after everything wassaid and done, fury fucks off
back into space with his wife intime for the premise of the
Marvels.
That's pretty much it.
And I even talked to Mira Janeabout this and she was saying,
like, so Fury abandoned theSkrulls and Kuyo forgot about

(01:27:16):
him or something Like whoopsies.
Like I guess I got a problem tofix.
Like, yeah, essentially Furygot a stomp out at fire.
He started when he was spendingLike 30 years between field
work and becoming the directorof shield and assembling the
avengers and all that shit.

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I'm like, oh well, you know,shit happens, you.
But yeah, I don't know.
I'd say 2.5 out of 5 stars forSecret Invasion Not too bad, but
it's kind of forgettable, atleast until like see, secret

(01:27:58):
Invasion just feels like atie-in from the first Captain
Marvel movie to this Marvel andthe Marvels movie, to this
marvel and the marvels, becausekeep in mind that, uh, by the
time he goes back up into spacehe's probably being introduced
to kamala khan and the events ofthe marvel.
I didn't see the marvels yet,but I'm planning on watching it

(01:28:20):
on on disney plus in about twodays upon recording.
Uh, so yeah, it's gonna be liketwo days from the time I put
this recording out that it'll beon disney plus and I'll watch
it then, and but that's justpretty much how secret invasion
feels for me.
So it's like they were tryingto do horn in this whole scroll

(01:28:45):
involvement with um plot ofthings and they just had to be
over and done within, like what,six episodes.
Yeah, it was six episodes.
So, yeah, that's pretty muchhow I feel about secret invasion
.
Uh, if you feel differently,then good on you.
I guess you know like I'm notgoing to argue against it, but

(01:29:08):
that's just how I feel aboutsecret invasion.
Take it as you, take it orleave it.
So, with that being said, I'mout.
But you already know the drill.
I'm not gonna even go throughthe whole spill, like I usually
do.
But you know, just take it easy, stay nerdy, remember that
great things are coming.
I am gone.
All right, y'all, jeff buckingstream here.

(01:29:33):
I'm gonna do the loki season 2review, solo and without further
ado, let's zone in on it.
Uh, my impression of loki season2 amazing.
I just like how everythingpretty much went full circle
from the very first episode ofLoki to where Loki won a throne.

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He wanted to rule, but by theend of it all it's more like
he's on his throne but he'sprotecting the timelines as he
had no choice but to, you know,make sure that the temporal loom
stays intact by sacrificinghimself.
But let's take this review fora walk for a moment.

(01:30:16):
Let's go back to episode one ofseason two.
So in the past, the tva attemptto apprehend loki while he's
uncontrollably warping acrosstime in their headquarters.
And in the present, lokireunites with mobius and warns
him about the threat posed bythe marrying variants of he who
remains, you know, came toconquer and general docs has

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several tba hunters armedthemselves as they try to find
sylvie, who caused the wholething from, you know, season one
finale, and Loki and Mobiusmeets the TVA technician
Ouroboros we'll just call him OBfor convenience who deduces
that Loki is time slipping,which is this phenomenon where

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he possibly caused, by branchingtimelines to injury,
overloading the temporal loom towhere he'll probably slip into
the past or the future.
Who, who knows?
He doesn't have any controlover that and to save Loki, obi
instructs Mobius to approach thetemporal loom with a temporal
aura extractor device thatextracts Loki from the time

(01:31:25):
stream.
As Loki prunes himself, lokitime slips into the future where
the TVA is being evacuated.
As the loom goes critical, heencounters Sylvie before he is
pruned in the elevator scene.
He was being pruned by someoneat the last minute and in the
present, mobius pulls Loki fromthe time stream successfully and

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they set out to find Sylvie Atthe end of episode one.
Sylvie is in the branchTimeline in Broxton, oklahoma,
back in like 1982, I think itwas and visits a McDonald's.
So okay, Okay.
Not a bad opening to the season,excuse me, episode 2.

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Loki Mobius and Hunter B-15find and capture Hunter X-5 in
London, 1977, on the SacredTimeline where he lives as a
film actor, brad Wolf.
Under interrogation, he admitsto abandoning Doc's mission and
reveals Sylvie's location.
He admits to abandoning Doc'smission and reveals Sylvie's
location.
Meanwhile, OB attempts torepair the loom to safely

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accommodate the branchingtimeline but finds out that he
can't access it without the helpof the missing Miss Minutes or
he who remains Aura.
So Loki Mobius and Wolf travelto Oklahoma to find Sylvie
working in that McDonald's fromthe last episode.
Loki tells her that they'reencounter with TVA Future and

(01:32:55):
asks for her assistant to figureout what would happen.
But she's like no, I don'treally feel like doing that.
I want to have a normal lifebecause you know my life was
taken away from me in the firstplace.
So this is my one chance tohave that normal life.
So I don't want to get involved.
But wolf proclaims the group isin mortal danger.

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Sylvie enchants him, forcinghim to reveal doc's plan to
simultaneously destroy thebranching timelines with reset
charges, so sending wolf backinto custody.
Loki mobius and sylvie capturedogs.
But her plan has largelysucceeded and some of her
loyalists have escaped.
So as the tba's receptionistcasey tracks the rope where

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bonnie renslayer, judgerenslayer, uh, temptat from one
of the remaining rangingtimelines, sylvie declared that
TVA is rotten and returns to theMcDonald's With he who remains
a tin pad in her possession.
So that was episode two andepisode three.
Okay, this the one, this theone.

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I like Y'all about to find outIn just a moment.
But here we go.
Miss Minnes and Rensleg traveledto chicago 1868 to secretly
drop the tba handbook to a youngvictor, timely, who was a
variant of he who remains, whohad arranged this before his
death.
So there was a contingency plan.

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They traveled to the 1893chicago world fair in this
branch timeline where Loki andMobius arrive, tracking
Renslayer's Tempad and seeTimely present his temporal loom
prototype.
Timely then has four groupschasing him.
There's Loki and Mobius, whoneed his aura to fix the loom.

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There's Renslayer and MissMenace who just want him to take
his variance plays with them athis side.
So basically, just make himanother version of he who
remains.
Sylvie, who wants to kill himto prevent his rise to power,
and then this robber Baron whoand his ally want to revenge
against Timely's fake inventionscam.
So yeah, timely's kind of ascammer, but at the same time,

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you know, with the book and he's, he's not a complete scammer,
but he is kind of acounter-artist again, however
you want.
So Timely abandons Renslayerfor proposing a partnership.
Okay, let me talk.
Let me tell you something aboutVictor Timely.

(01:35:28):
Victor Timely used SilverTongue, pim you.
I'm gonna explain this more Inepisode 4, but Essentially it
was more like, uh, with Timelymeeting Renslayer and Ms Menace,
you know the girls had likestars in their eyes Um meeting
this guy and Renslayer, missmenace, you know the girls had

(01:35:49):
like stars in their eyes, um,meeting this guy and rinslayer
was like really feeling him and,on time, was feeling her too, I
know romantically, but you knowlike they can kind of like
understand each other in a sense.
And then timely was like, yeah,sure, partners.
Next thing, you know, as soonas she was asleep, like timely

(01:36:15):
just somehow got her into thisum lifeboat thing that was on
top of this uh bigger boat thatthey acquired I don't know how,
but they got it and then had herdrop into the ocean.
She wakes up, it's like, well,she didn't really do that, but

(01:36:38):
that's how it felt.
And he was like, hey, man, Itold y'all I don't do partners.
And miss men's was on that boat.
Like bye, it's like oh, sothat's some traitor shit.
And then, you know, miss minutes, she was feeling some type of
way about um victor time.
Now, this was more romantic.
But you know time we thoughtthat was the weirdest bug.

(01:37:00):
And she was out there likereally thirsty as fuck too, and
then, uh, he was like okay, Ineed to get rid of you too.
Yeah, so at Timely's WisconsinLaboratory he turns Miss Missing
off after she professesRomantic love for him.
After I just Explained, andRenslayer, loki, mobius and

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Sylvie arrive, with Sylvie gaincontrol.
By the way, renslayer was Kindof salty about all this, so Are
you in?
living roll, by the way,renslayer was kind of salty
about all that he did.
Hey, so how you been living, ohman, oh man.
I'm kind of going to miss themajor business.

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Anyways, and mages in this shit, ah, anyways, sylvie allows
Loki to take timely back to theTVA, then sends Renslayer to the
Citadel.
At the end of time, with MsMenace being brought along, they
see he remains decaying corpseas Ms Menace reveals that she

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knows a secret about Renslayer.
Okay, we got a Haspen Hotelreview coming up and I'm
probably going to mention this.
Has been revealed that sheknows a secret about Renslayer.
Oh, okay, we got a has beenhotel review coming up and I'm
probably gonna mention thisanyways when I do that review.
But it just reminds me of whatAlistair said to Charlie, like I
know something you don't know.
And then that's funny becauseCharlie, from always Sunday,

(01:38:26):
said the same thing to Dennis inthat one episode where you know
Mac was banging Dennis's andDee's mom.
It's a whole thing in thatepisode.
So that was episode three.
Yeah, personally my favorite.
Well, aside from the finale, ofcourse.
But you know, like it wasironically funny, like I didn't

(01:38:50):
expect it to be as funny as itwas to me uh, in my opinion I
just didn't, but I wasn't doingit
yeah.
So episode four, miss minnichreveals that in the past
rinslayer commanded he whoremains army practically winning
the cane war for him.
And when everything was saidand done, he at first proposed

(01:39:12):
to leave the tba with ren slayerand then had mismanaged.
Erase the memories of renslayer and all the other tba
employees, because you know howit is just like with bitter
timely he Remains, don't dopartners.
But that's kind of ironicbecause that's with Janet in

(01:39:33):
Quantumania.
But I guess you know he kind ofneeded her to get his machine
going so he can escape thequantum realm and then after
that, you know, janet can justfuck off somewhere.
But basically he didn't reallysee her as a partner either.
So you know, kang he whoremains to make the time leap,

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regardless of what variant islike.
They just on their sigma grindset, I guess.
Now where was I?
Oh yeah, as the temporal loomreaches catastrophic failure,
loki and his allies attempt touse Timely and OB's thought put
multiplier to fix it.
Ob reveals that the source ofhis knowledge is Timely himself

(01:40:18):
in by the handbook that OB wrote.
But at the same time OB wrotethe handbook based on Victor
Timely's notes.
So take that as you will.

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Renslayer and Miss Minutesattempt to take over the TVA,
approaching the detained WolfDocs, docs and her loyalist for
help.
Only wolf agrees, while docsand her loyalist instead chose
to be crushed to death by missmenace in this.
Well, you don't get to see ithappening.
But it was like this boss, likey'all ever heard of this anime
called kakashi?

(01:41:01):
Uh, it's kind of like that'swhere it's like they just use
barrier magic and they can likeenlarge it or minimize it and
basically what happens that?
They were like in this, uh cubeand it was like just minimizing
on them.
He's like crushing them fromwithin.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, emptyways.

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Wolf prunes, hunter D90 andkidnaps Timely.
Sorry about that y'all, myheadset timed out on me for some
reason, but where was I withthis shit?
Yeah, only Wolf agrees toRenslayer Ms Menon's attempt to

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take over the TVA.
Dogs and her loyalists gotcrushed.
Wolf prunes D-90 and kidnapsTimely after staging A rescue.
Sylvie and Loki Encounter histime-slipping past self.
Loki prunes his past self.
So once again, time paradox.
Take that as you will.
Obi Deactivates Ms Menage andthe tba's magic suppressing

(01:42:10):
devices, which means sylvie andloki has their magic back.
Sylvie enchants wolf,controlling him, to prune ring
slayer, she'll rinse layer.
Remember, when you get prunedyou go to the end of time.
So there's that, rescued timelyrestores assets to the loom.
But when he approaches the loomthe increased temporal

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radiation spaghettifies him.
It was, and I was kind ofshocked.
I was like, oh shit, I thoughtit was going to work but fuck.
But you're going to find outwhat they actually went for in
the next two episodes.
I'm getting there.
So the temporal loom explodes,a blast wave spreads towards

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loki, mogis and everybody elsein tva.
Loki survives the explosion inepisode five, as we see in
episode five, but everyone elsehas vanished and the tva
headquarters forgetifies.
So loki escapes as he begantime flipping again, taking him
to branch timelines where hisfriends mobius and the rest of

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them were reset to theiroriginal lives as don, dr verity
, willis, frank morris and dr addoug respectively.
Now, wanting to time flip tobefore the explosion, loki lifts
Doug's help.
With Loki unable to control histime slipping, doug proposes

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Loki gather everyone present Atthe explosion back together so
that their collective temporalaura Can send them back to the
right time and place.
Doug builds a tin pad using aTV handbook that Loki kept.
So that's how Obi was able toget the handbook.
You know, loki succeeds andgathers everyone else to Doug's

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workshop.
It's up to Sylvie who hasretained their memories.
Refusing to help Sylvie makesLoki admit his true motivation,
wanting to uh fringe back andhe's scared of being alone.
Kind of like a recall to this Iwant to say, time loop in
episode one where uh, lokireunites well, not reunites but

(01:44:25):
he's and basically it was thiswhole thing where Loki wants
once cut a little bit of sipshair and uh, sips comes up and
kind of kicks his ass and talkabout you're meant to die alone
and blah, blah, blah.
And real funny how you're gonnafind out that that kind of
rings true now, but not in theway that you would expect, not

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like in a punishment kind of way, but it's more like he had to
do what he had to do.
But either way, when everythingin Sylvie's timeline
spaghettifies, she goes to helpLoki.
However, doug's workshop alsospaghettifies, as do Frank, doug
, don, everybody else, and justwhen Loki thought he was about
to lose everything and it justseemed real bad.

(01:45:10):
Loki was just like and then hefinally controls his time
slipping by focusing on a person, so declaring that he can
rewrite the story.
Loki time slipped to before theexplosion by focusing on ob.
So it's funny how, in thatmoment, it uh, oh, I like how,

(01:45:32):
his um theme song, um, you knowthe green theme song, like that
one, yeah, I like that one, Ilove that one, fucking yeah.
But seriously, though, it kindof reminds me of what's that one

(01:45:53):
anime called, but, uh, theworld guy only knows to where.
Um, the main guy uh, fuck, Iforgot his name, okay, uh, I
think it was like kasaragi orsomeone came on Katsuragi, he
was his dog, has braids likeonce.
He's like complete a flag orwhat.

(01:46:13):
Nice, like, I can see theending and I kind of like the
enemy.
I might do a review on it,maybe next February, but anyways
, these are finale time.
Ok, loki time slips to themoment before the temporal
loom's explosion.
Despite his attempts, the loomultimately fails to accommodate

(01:46:35):
the infinite branches.
So Loki slips to the momentBefore Sylvie kills.
He who remains.
By the way, there was thiswhole thing when it just kept
failing and failing Until Lokirealized Okay, let me go back to
the moment Before Sylvie kills,he who remains who tells Loki
that the Lumia is a failsafe.
So he who Remains knew this wasgoing to happen.

(01:46:56):
So yeah, so either way, youeither gotta take over the TVA
or it's just gonna keephappening.
So overloading it protects theSacred, sacred timeline by
deleting the branches along withthe tba.
So he who remains suggests toloki to kill sylvie to save the

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loom, which loki rejects.
And after consulting mogis andsylvie at different moments in
time, loki replaces timely and,approaching the loom, loki
destroys the loom magically,rejuvenates the dying timelines
and rearranges them to thistree-like structure, you know,
like Yggdrasil, the world tree,pretty much like that.
So it's like an Asgardianreference and I like that.

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So he committed himself tooversee the branches alone At
the end of time.
The TBA now tracks he whoRemains for variants across the
growing branches.
So they're not pruning branchesanymore, they're just
overseeing them in case anythinggoes wrong.
You know like, okay, let's dealwith them, but we're not gonna
prune the whole timeline justbecause something happened here.

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So with Mobius reporting onevariant being stopped at Earth
616, adjacent realm, b-15becomes one of the TVA's leaders
.
Ob reactivates a now friendlyMiss Minutes and writes a new
TVA handbook with Timely asco-author, and in one timeline.
Timely did not receive the TVAhandbook In 1868, so he pretty

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much got his life back.
Well, he won't become he.
He remains very or anythinglike that, but he's gonna be a
normal dude.
Renslager awakens in the void.
Remember I told you that whenyou get pruned, you just go into
the void.
So it's not really the end oftime, but more like you just go
to the void.
So she awakens in the void andencounters Alia, and that's

(01:48:52):
probably going to be a thing ina future installment.
So Mobius retires from the TVA.
He and Sylvia observe Don andhis children from afar.
So, basically, mobius visits avariant of him and yeah, uh,
mobius visits a variant of him.
And yeah, and meanwhile, youknow, you see loki sitting from

(01:49:13):
his throne, um, looking overeverybody.
And yeah, I feel for you, loki,but you, you really did what
you had to do.
So I feel you, bro, I feel you,and that was pretty much loki
season two.
Yeah, five out of five stars,it was brilliant.
And, with that being said, youknow what, I'm just gonna go
ahead and close this one out.
Yeah, five out of five stars,it was brilliant.
And, with that being said, youknow what?

(01:49:34):
I'm just going to go ahead andclose this one out.
I was expecting people on forthis one.
But at the same time, you knowthings happen, so the show must
go on.
But you know the drill.
We got links attached to theepisode, so follow us on social
media if you want to.
We got a lot of reviews tocover.
We got a lot of things that wehave in mind for the year, but

(01:49:55):
you're just going to have tostay tuned to see what we come
up with.
So in the meantime, stay nerdy.
Remember that great things arecoming.
I'm zoning out.
Okay, I'm going to be honestwith y'all.
There wasn't much enthusiasmfor us on the Zone podcast to
talk about this net chunk of theMCU, but with Deadpool and

(01:50:19):
Wolverine come to theaters, Ifeel slightly obligated to at
least talk about these threetitles, even if it's not for
very long.
The MCU honestly been hit ormiss lately.
So here's what I think aboutthe marvels.
Not gonna lie, didn'tabsolutely hit it, but it could
have been better.
The whole gimmick of the threeladies switching places every

(01:50:46):
time they coincidentally usetheir powers at the same time
could have been utilized in amore clever way.
But the film spends most of theruntime being confused by the
occurrence and by the time theylearn how to use their powers in
perfect sync, it doesn't lastfor very long.
And carol has this whole arc towhere she gotta do right by the

(01:51:07):
creed for ruining their way oflife with her whole annihilator
art that she was going on, butshe didn't even like being
called the annihilator.
You know the whole thing, and,monica, because keep in mind
that while carol was doing allthat shit, uh, she left Monica
and Maria back at Earth andMaria passed away and Monica

(01:51:31):
pretty much grew up withoutseeing her quote unquote Aunt
Carol, and essentially Carol'sjust been running away from that
Hell.
It was kind of awkward for themto talk for the first time
since years.
It was kind of awkward for themto talk for the first time
since years Five, you know.

(01:51:53):
But yeah, speaking of Monica,she gained power since
WandaVision and in the end shemade the big sacrifice, the big
hero sacrifice, by sealing therift that was in space in the
end of the movie from the otherside.
So she's stuck in anotheruniverse, but she was saved by

(01:52:19):
the x-men and we know thatbecause she meets with beast and
binary and, funny enough, uh,in this universe, uh, maria is
still alive, but she's going bybinary.
In fact, she's the one thatgained the powers in this one.
So it's kind of like with drstrange all over again to where
maria became captain marvelinstead of, uh, carol.

(01:52:42):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Let me talk about one of thethings that kind of pissed me
off about this film.
Like the one thing that pissedme off the most is that Kamala
finally meets her hero, but whenshe sees that Carol is not
exactly what she thought shewould be, I felt disappointed

(01:53:04):
that Kamala didn't grill Carolfor for letting innocent people
die like twice, and it's almostas if kamala was too busy
simping for idols to give carolvalid criticism, like in some
scenes.
You can tell that, um, she felta little disillusioned by carol
, because and that's anotherthing maybe I'm missing

(01:53:27):
something, but how are youidolizing a hero that's barely
on earth, like, yeah, she wassort of there for in-game, but
for the most part wasn't carollike flying around in space the
whole time?

(01:53:47):
That's pretty much the wholepoint of why monica feels,
though, oh, oh well, you couldhave called or you could have
visited, but you ain't wanna dothat.
That's, that's the weird thingand that, and also, uh, that one
part where, uh, carol wastrying to save the people that
one time.
And then Kama was like, oh, mycaptain, my captain or whatever

(01:54:11):
that was, and then Monica waslooking at her like girl, you
are something for Carol Weiss,you are, yeah, like I thought
that was kind of weird.
But you know, the fact that theMarvels takes place after Secret
Invasion in the MCU timelinemakes it even more disappointing
how Nick Fury went from havingthis serious role in the grand

(01:54:35):
scheme of things to the comicrelief in this movie.
And can I also talk about how,between Secret Invasion,
wandavision and Ms Marvel, therewas all this setup for this
movie, just for this movie toset up a young avengers project,
which got canceled, by the way?
Oh yeah, there's a villain inthis movie that wants revenge

(01:55:02):
against carol for the latter'sannihilator art uh, pretty much,
um, making the sun go out.
Annihilator art uh, pretty much, um, making the sun go out.
And personally she feels like athrowaway character.
I mean, maybe she mattered morein the comics, maybe not, but
I'm just really wasn't feelingas a villain.
And other than that, this teamup in the marvel just came and
went uh, carol fucked off intospace, monica's in another

(01:55:24):
dimension, kamala was recruitingnew talent for the Avengers
Remember canceled project and Ifeel nothing leaving this movie.
I mean I could tell that theywere kind of having fun, like I
could see that, but it was midfor me.
Oh yeah, I like the upgrades inthe costumes for Monica and
Kamala, but Carol's looking kindof ugly, I mean why did they

(01:55:49):
make the suit darker?
It would have made more senseif the suit she had on before
she switched that one out withthe new one.
Okay, the new one I canunderstand that being like the
suit she has starting out, butthen, as you know, like she got
used to her old Captain Marvelrole, that she gets like a more

(01:56:11):
visually appealing suit.
You know, whatever.
We're moving on to what ofseason two?
This one is the one I have theleast to say, because what if
betrayed itself in a secondseason?
Because of the fact that it'ssupposed to be an anthology
series, it has a little too muchcontinuity in it.
It's one thing to have theGuardians of the Multiverse set

(01:56:32):
up for the first season, butusing the same variants of
characters makes it seem likethe show's trying to break from
its own format.
Other than that, I thought theone shots were kind of
intriguing, and now it's time totalk about Echo.
And now it's time to talk aboutecho.

(01:56:53):
Okay, so if you watch thehawkeye show, you're already
familiar with maya lopez, andwhat makes it slightly
interesting for me is that shefights derido in the first
episode.
I say this slightly interestingbecause I know that in the
comics echo and derido willbecome a couple and with dervil
getting it on, with She-Hulk andother characters in the MCU or
Netflix Defenderverse, I'm surethat a lot.

(01:57:20):
I'm just very curious about howthat's going to go.
After Maya presumably killskingpin, she eventually goes
back to her hometown to lay low.
While she plots to replacekingpin one way or another, her
family gets roped into maya'sbullshit and she has to

(01:57:41):
literally macgyver her way outof the war she started.
Kingpin kind of comes offunderwhelming in this series
because his father-daughter likerelationship with maya made him
a little too trusting of her.
Like even to the season finaleseems like he could have ended
maya and her family at anymoment but held on to hope that

(01:58:02):
maya would still choose to beunder his umbrella again.
But instead he gets defeated bythe power of therapy and just
fucks off.
Oh yeah, because of Choctaw'sheritage and whatnot.
Maya's superpower is that shecan inherit she has this
inheritance of skills from herancestry, as well as the ability

(01:58:25):
to share those skills withthose who are also from the same
ancestry.
So between that and herspiritual talk with her mother,
that's how she sort of gains herhero name, echo.
I'll give more one.
Disney points for therepresentation of things like
indigenous culture, the uses ofAmerican sign language and

(01:58:48):
defiance against ableism, butoutside of that kind of feels
like echo just exists for itself.
Well, at least until we see howDaredevil, born again, plays
out, because I think Daredevil'sinclusion in this series and
Kingpin's interest in becomingmayor sets all that up With.
That being said, that's all Igotta say about this chunk of

(01:59:09):
the mcu.
Mentally I'm waiting ondeadpool and wolverine.
Uh, the new captain americamovie is looking kind of
interesting, with red hope beingincluded.
Uh, thunderbolts is coming soonbecause, honestly, those are
the ones that I'm really lookingforward to.
I would say secret wars,whatever they gotta rename kane

(01:59:33):
dynasty.
But once again, the mcu hasbeen kind of hit or miss.
So we're just gonna have to seeand until then, stay nerdy.
My friends, we'll be back forwhen we review the next chunk of
the mcu.
So that'll probably be like inanother six months or so,

(01:59:53):
depending on how fast I get thischuck out, so yeah, until the
next part of the mcu stream.
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