Naruto: The Xtreme Review (Part 1: Pre-Time Skip)

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
you know what y'all, I've been in the mood for a
bunch of extreme reviews becauseyou know we gotta talk about a
whole bunch of things, ifanything, if we're gonna keep
this podcast going, and we'vebeen talking about bleeds, we
got that up on patreon.
That'll be coming out at theend of the month and we are
currently doing one piece.

(00:22):
But you know we gotta talkabout the big three.
So let's go ahead and talkabout naruto right now.
So I'm gonna start it with partone, well, season one of part
one, and we'll just do a seasonby season because, you know, I
just think that's for the bestfor the time being.
But once we get to shippuden,then I I'm thinking, yeah,
that's probably going to be like, but uh, let's go ahead and

(00:48):
talk about the land of waves andmaybe a little bit of the
tuning exam, like I mean not thewhole thing, but uh, I'm going
to say the Turner, part four,part two.
But uh, naruto, what can I say?
Man, it deserves to be in thebig three.
Four reason, because not only dothe fights do pop off, but they
just have that emotional valueto where you just kind of feel

(01:11):
something for these characters.
Like, I don't know, not all ofthem, but like for the most part
, yeah, you kind of feelsomething for these characters
and you know Naruto with histalk no, jutsu kind of serves as
that bridge of empathy.
You know naruto with his talkno, jutsu kind of serves as that
bridge of empathy.
You know what I'm saying, but,uh, you know what?
Let me just open this up to thepanel.
Let's start it off with playboyhere.

(01:33):
Uh, how you feel about naruto?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I feel about naruto.
Uh, naruto is my favorite anime.
I don't really put nothing toomuch near it or above it.
It got me through a good bit oflike alone times when I'm
sitting and thinking.
You know what I'm sayingBecause I grew up watching it
when it first came out.
You know what I'm saying andbeing where it's at right now,

(01:58):
naruto kind of grew up with usso it was always one of my
favorite animes back then.
So it just, you know know,stayed that as I grew up and
then there's not been an animethat I watch as long I know one
piece and bleach been out since.
It's just that and that's thecrazy part I watch.
I've actually watched one piecefirst, but I don't know.
It was just I'd rather be aninja than a pirate.

(02:19):
You know what I'm sayingrunning up?
throwing shurikens, and you knowwhat I'm saying.
I was always into martial artsanyway.
So, of course, when they cameout with a show about kids who
were ninjas and then on top ofthat the shit was actually
animated great, like this shitwas almost ahead of its time I
didn't even realize what I waswatching.
Like I didn't realize how great.

(02:40):
I didn't realize I was watchingPete at this moment Because I
was great.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
I didn't realize I was watching Pete at this moment
because I was watching a bunchof cartoons.
So that's what I saw it as justanother good cartoon and my
friends would go outside andpretend to be characters from
hey, like oh, you know how wehad those weirdos.
Like I'm not gonna be too mean,but like let's just be real.
Like we had those nerdy nerdsthat be like no to running
through the um hallway trying toget the lunch.
I'm like man, y'all calm thatdown.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Like see, you had, you had you had different types
of nerds.
You had those and you had theones who just you know, we'd
probably do that at home and Idon't know what time, you know,
yeah we were like low-key withit, like almost.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like we had like a code going on when we were at
school where it was like, ohyeah, like when nobody was
looking, I was like, hey, yo, soyou thought I knew I was gonna
know it was time and place foreverything.
Like don't boy oh, but you did.
We were definitely naruto,running back to the house when
that new episode was popping off, though oh yeah, sometimes I do

(03:44):
it when I got off the bus toschool.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
But man.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
But yeah, like that's what I loved about naruto too
now that you mentioned it towhere we really did grow up with
naruto, because naruto bleachone piece, I mean, say the
forerunners, like uh, dragonball z uh, sailor moon and
whatnot.
We grew up with these showswhere it is real nice to see

(04:10):
naruto um doing his thing.
Like I'm not gonna say to, Imean, you know it's not really
spoilers at this point anymore,but you know, naruto ended up
going off, be doing big thingsto a point to where he's now
hokage like he's finally livingthe dream, but like before all
that, you know he was just atroublemaking kid that was just
trying to, you know, get somelove.
You know, uh, you remember onswings, uh, set street.

(04:33):
I'm watching naruto, a britishseries.
I'm sorry, but um, essentiallyhe was just that kid, uh,
sitting on that swing watchingall the other kids have fun.
But then he was gettingostracized because, you know, he
was a non-touching shuriken.
Nobody didn't want to fuck withhim except um, shikamaru and
chojin.
That was the day ones for real,though.
I see that's that's the thingthat that's so very important

(04:55):
about having day ones where it'slike you got dudes that never
folded on you, like never allswitched up on you and shit, I
like that.
Uh, yeah, like it was hard fornaruto, especially trying to
become a ninja, and he wastrying to do the clone jutsu but
he was failing at it.
But then mizuki fuck ass wantedto pop up, be like, hey, yo,

(05:17):
like it's real tough that theybe treating you like that man.
But hey, check this out, I gota plan that'll make you respect
you.
So I'm gonna need to steal thisscroll to have the Shadow Clone
Jutsu um technique down.
I'm gonna take that and, yeah,you know, learn that and all
that shit.
But you know, mizuki planned onlike betraying Naruto and like,

(05:38):
if anybody says anything, hewas just gonna make Naruto be
the all-fall guy.
But Iruka looking out forNaruto, naruto um followed them
and it was a whole tussle there.
And when iruka um defendednaruto from that giant shuriken,
from um musiki, uh, naruto waslike, oh hell, no, let me go and
pop out like a thousand shadowclothes and start whooping his

(06:02):
ass.
And then that just pretty muchhow it started for naruto, like,
hey, man, you, you know whatyou did.
My boy, here's your headband.
You're a ninja now.
But uh, before I keep babblingon koki.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I said how you feeling about naruto man y'all
sitting here talking aboutnaruto, talking about the old
days, making me feel old as hellto me, about the anime club
days.
But no, naruto was a reallycool series.
It was uh, I can't say it'slike my favorite one.
Y'all know my favorite one hasbeen yu yu haka show for a long

(06:35):
time, so I was already deep intoanime by the time naruto even
came out.
Um, like understand when itcame and I say when it came out,
so not when it came to the us,because it came out, came out a
couple months before it hit theUS.
But the thing about it is thatit was one of the few anime that
I watched that wasn't on 4Kidsand didn't get completely
screwed up, thankfully.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I like how Disney XD tried it with Naruto Shippuden
and I was like you're not goingto commit to that unfortunately
Disney.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
But I mean Disney is committing now to Bleach it with
Naruto Shippuden and I'm likeyou're not going to commit to
that, no, but I mean Disney'scommitting now to Bleach I'm the
law of rights for a thousandyear blood war.
They want nobody else watchingthat but on them.
Yeah, but no.
But it's also one of thecraziest things about it.
It's funny how Playboy youtalked about, you wanted to be a
ninja versus a pirate.

(07:25):
That was actually a weird thingfor me is the fact that before
even joining the zone, Iactually attempted to start my
own little group day, because wehad anime club back in my high
school and I had tried to createa group called the united otaku
of altosta.
I still have the page and thebanner is literally Ninjas vs

(07:47):
Pirates.
That's great.
So, yeah, it's funny that youmentioned that, because I'm just
sitting here like good lord,you're making me go back to
things I forgot about a longtime ago.
You know what's up, I don'tremember a lot, right, but here

(08:10):
we are now.
Like here we are in the zone.
You know got so many differentthings going on.
Like you said, we did bleachreview coming out on the patreon
.
Um even got this artcompetition that we're doing.
It's just, it's a lot like wehad so much growth.
But yeah, naruto was a stapleone.
You y'all, uh, made me feelembarrassed because y'all
sitting here talking about howit was a time and place for
everything.
Yeah, a time and place waswherever I wanted it to be at.
I popped up a shadow clone.

(08:34):
I'm talking about why y'all wassitting here saying, oh, it was
a time and place for this.
I was that person that washaving competitions of who could
do the best, who could do thehand signs most accurately.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
No, no, no of who could do the best hand, who
could do the hand signs most.
No, no, no, no, like youcouldn't do that around um, for
the ninjas that we were growingup with, because when you be
doing those hands around them,they're like hey, what set you
from?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I mean, I look, I did have a bunch of them around too
, but one of the funniest thingsabout it, too, is the fact that
I don't know the people thatwas around was more blues, I'm
not gonna say exactly, but um,colors, and but the thing about
this is that they wanted towatch an rso2 so they understood
the difference in it.
Like it wasn't like a big thingis that?
Like you, as long as you knowthe people, they know the

(09:16):
difference and you just go up tosome random people who don't
really know you like that?
Yeah, most definitely.
But no, I never got caught uplike that, but definitely.
This is one of those ones of itwas just a lot of insanity.
It was just fun.
It was just fun.
The kids, the teachers,absolutely hated us.
They absolutely hated us.

(09:37):
I literally almost got ISS forthat too.
It was like you're throwing upsigns and I think the real
saving was that somebody hadactually brought.
It was.
It was a show, it wasn't even ashonen jump magazine.
They had went and actuallybought like the actual naruto
magazine where they explain allthe characters and stuff.
And it's funny, they went landof waves because it was just the
one with the land of waves tothe beginning of the tuning

(09:57):
exams.
That was as far as it went ontothis magazine.
But it wound up showing everysingle hand sign, exactly what
they meant, and this personwould bring this book every
single day.
So we would get in trouble.
But then this person broughtthe book, showed it to the
teacher, showed it to theprincipal, because we actually
actually actually had to go tothe principal and then.
So that's what it was and waslike oh, here we go hey, you

(10:19):
know what.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
but here's the main thing.
Like um, one cheat that I liketo do during like spirit week,
during school is, like you knowhow they say, like they wear a
costume on one of the days andI'm like, hey man, you know, I'm
going to be the laziestmotherfucker ever, I'm just
going to wear the headband andthat's it.
Because you know, in this worldit's like all you got to do is
just slip on a headband.

(10:40):
Well, he's a ninja.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
It was so much fun.
It was so much fun I didn'tcare.
But then you know I'm going tocall you out on this one Playboy
.
You up here telling me that, oh, this is a time and place for
everything, but then you justsitting here saying oh, I used
to ninja run off the school bus.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
I mean that's the Nah , but that's when they're not
looking, though they're notlooking at the home.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Most kids would run off the bus anyway, so I'd just
be in a group of running kidsand, just you know, throw that
in there.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Now I do want to mention this one.
This is actually one of thefunniest things, okay, because
I'm a big fan of the Dead orAlive franchise Ryu hayabusa
with um and of course you knowI'm super happy that ninja
guidance got the newest one.
We just talked about that oneearlier.
Before um, the ninja run was sovastly different.
Ninja run was well known forhaving one arm, primarily the

(11:40):
right arm, but some people hadleft.
If you're left-handed, it wasyour dominant arm, was in front
of you and it was used to beable to deflect everything and
you would have.
Your other arm wasn't flyingbehind you.
You had it stiff and firm,where you would be able to hold
your weapons, to have quickaccess to your weapons.
So your right hand was yourright arm, was used to either
catch or deflect.

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Your left arm was used to goahead and actually throw weapons
and stuff to either catch ordeflect.
Your left arm was used to goahead and actually throw weapons
and stuff.
When Naruto came out, narutosaid nah, forget that, we're not
going to put the right arm infront, we're going to throw both
arms behind us.
And that became the stapleninja run ever since.
This is literally when thisanime came out and hit the world
completely changed what peoplethought the ninja run was Nearly

(12:25):
.
If you look up Ninja Run rightnow, naruto Ninja Run pops up.
That was not what the Ninja Runoriginally was.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Oh, we just need the extra speed.
You don't understand.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
And it does not give you extra speed.
People came up with all typesof bullshit for that.
I did not do that shit, but itwas just hilarious the fact that
, how much it was like, yeah,people was deep into that.
No, this is how the ninjas weresupposed to run.
No, it was not.
It was a very tactical way inhow you were supposed to run.

(13:00):
But literally, like we've talkedabout anime influences, I'm
talking about literally nowadays, if you watch a ninja run or
even live action movies andstuff like that, and it has
nothing to do with Naruto,nothing to do with anime that's
literally the ninja run thatthey do, both arms thrown behind
the back.
That is how ninjas now run.
It is now the staple.
Nope, this is how ninjas aresupposed to run.

(13:20):
It's just like that's not howthey did it, but it made that
big of an influence.
It's insane as much people arelike oh, it was just a cartoon.
Like you said, you know peoplestart to say, oh, it's just a
cartoon.
It's just a cartoon.
It's a cartoon that literallychanged how people see things
almost permanently.
That cartoon is a cultural iconat this point.

(13:43):
Yeah, exactly, you're not goingto see anything else but this.
When people think of ninja,they're immediately going to
think of you're either like theold school people like us are
really going to think of ninjagaiden, but otherwise other
people is mostly going to thinkthat's just what it is.
That's.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I mean, we literally got noodle shops modeled after
Naruto.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
at this point, You're not wrong, I have not been to
one, but everyone that I knowhas been to one in Atlanta and
Warner Robins, georgia.
Those two specifically, I'mtold, were absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I believe it was one in Florida.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
So I know about them.
Oh yeah, I heard about this onein Florida, but the one in
Florida I heard was it didn'ttaste as good, but it had
significantly was not inJacksonville.
It was like near Jacksonville,but what it was is that it had a
.
It has fantastic scenery.
They have all these differentposters and all different types

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of stuff there, so it's like,yeah, this is definitely cool.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
That's cool, yeah, Like Naruto, it just kind of
hits home on a bunch of things.
But uh, before we get into allthat, um, emotional shit,
because that's like later onJuly, I want to say lay it away.
Well, that's like the firstlittle whiff of it.

(15:14):
But, um, let's talk about thecharacters real quick.
Like, okay, we always gotNaruto, the number one
hyperactive knucklehead ninja,of course, and he's not exactly
the brightest bull, but he's notcompletely stupid.
Sometimes you just gotta dumbit down for him a little bit.

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But you know, he got heart andthat's what matters.
And then we have these othertwo and I want to get kind of to
kakashi in just a moment but,um, then we have these two,
sasuke and sakura.
Now we know sasuke being thislittle cool edge lord that wants

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to one day murder a certainsomeone For a certain reason
that we're probably going to getinto in, maybe part two, maybe
part three, but for the mostpart he got his mission.
He's like focused on that and heain't really studying these
hoes, but of course the hoeswant to be on his dick,

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especially Sakura.
Now, in this team you would saythat there's a love triangle,
because Naruto likes Sakura butSakura ain't feeling Naruto, but
Sakura likes Sasuke.
It's not really a love triangle, it's more like a love L, and I
think it's kind of funny, likeeven though yeah, yeah, let's

(16:48):
just be honest like Sakura kindof oh, you know what, you know
what I'm kind of jumping alittle bit, but then again I'm
probably not gonna mention itwhen we get there.
But what pissed me off a littlebit, because part of what I
gotta say does happen in seasonone of part one, where in
shippuden, when uh sakura had anissue with their, with her

(17:10):
parents, and she was likeoutside late at night with
naruto and then she was likecomplaining to naruto about man
I can't stand my parentssometimes.
and then naruto like, hey, man,they're still your parents.
Like, at least you got parentsdown.
Sakura was like man shut upWith.
Sasuke was here, you willunderstand.
And then meanwhile youflashback to this season and

(17:33):
you're sitting there like shewas picking on Naruto for not
having parents or anything.
He's like, oh, he's all aloneand whatnot.
And then Sasuke was juststanding there like alone I'm
very familiar With that.
And then he was like, oh, Ididn't, sorry.
I'm like Now see, funny thingis that Both Naruto and Sasuke

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Are both orphans and yet Sakurahad no problem picking on Naruto
For not having parents.
But then as soon as Sasuke Likesaid anything he was, he was
like, oh well, my bad, I didn'tmean to be disrespectful.
But then again you go back toShippuden and you're thinking
like, oh well, sasuke wasn't adad, like bitch, hold on, hold

(18:16):
on.
Did you not forget theconversation you had way back?

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Okay, okay, that's how you can tell that sakura was
a genuine sasuke glazer.
But that's just me.
The tail just straight up herand you know was just?
Uh, was like good lord almighty, let the dude breathe.

(18:45):
Everything the dude did, sukedid a shadow clone.
Oh, sasuke.
Sasuke messed up.
It's okay, sasuke doesn'treally mess up, it was on
purpose, it was like mercy.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
He's a human, you could have tried better if you
wanted to, but you were justtrying to be humble it's like
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
chill out, it's not that serious To them.
It was, and it's funny.
Ino was all over Sasuke and wasconstantly fighting Sakura
about.
Just like chill out.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
You have both nerds who are like man Sasuke, and all
right, you shut your ass up.
That's your problem.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I was always happy whenever Sasuke put Sakura in
her place About stuff, cause shewas like, oh, you know, you
complain about their parents andstuff like that, and literally
Sasuke had to put her in a place.
Like you know, my parents aredead too, right, right, you know
that.
Right, you're really tryingthis right now.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I just like how Sos can be like bitch, you are so
annoying.
And I'm like, oh, it's okay,sos, I didn't mean to annoy you.
I'm like man, I really hate tosay it, but you know, fuck, I'm
just gonna say it right now, butI'm probably gonna keep saying
it as long as this history ofmovies going.

(20:06):
I'm like, look here at the endof the day that you're not his
wife, you're his baby mama.
That's the way I see it because, like, for the most part, he's
just going for the most part.
And then I just I think it'skind of sad and almost ironic

(20:29):
how, uh, sasuke has this kid andsarah does like dad, you're so
annoying.
And I was like what?
And it was like, oh man, thatinstant karma flash and back
when he called his mom, hecalled her mom.
Is this what karma feels like?

(20:49):
But, um, yeah, and then we gotKakashi man, that boy nice,
where he got the shuriken of.
But also, to be fair, he didn'treally needed the shuriken if

(21:10):
you saw the backstory, but youknow there was a whole thing
going on there.
But I just like how, for themost part, uh, kakashi's like
this, laid back perfectlycapable ninja to where he's like
, well, you know, beforeshippuden and sasuke, you know
all those things going on,kakashi was like the best person

(21:33):
to make sure that naruto's keptit checked.
But, um, yeah, I like histeaching style.
I kind of like how he's like alow-key pervert like uh, jiraiya
, and I like how, even thoughthere's like way later but um,
people like make a whole fussabout hey, what's under that
mask?
Oh, like, um, what's he hidingunderneath there?
And I'm like, honestly, I kindof expect him to be like a

(21:57):
normal guy.
I was like he just has to begood looking, you know, like
kind of like on gojo level, youknow, uh, well, you know the
copy?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
you mean copy of kakashi?
Oh my goodness, I like akashibecause it's also that point of
his teaching style.
Like you mentioned, one of thebest things for me and kakashi
was that you do actuallyeventually understand his
background and you understandthe significance it has for him
is the fact of he always keptfailing students and it was

(22:28):
literally like you gave him tokakashi and it was like, oh my
goodness, akashi fails everyone.
He never passes anyone like howis this never going to work out
?
And then it's that point ofunderstanding oh yeah, kakashi
failed them because everyone wasso to the point, always
following the rules, and it'slike you need to understand to
look out for your teammates andsometimes you have to break the
rules.
And it's like you need tounderstand to look out for your
teammates and sometimes you haveto break the rules.
If you can't understand thatyou need to break the rules

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sometimes in order to make surethat you can pass the mission,
to make sure that everyone cansurvive the best way possible, I
don't need you.
You're not going to be a goodninja, okay?
I?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
hear you Seto Kaiba.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Oh my goodness, but no, for real though.
You guys grew the rules, butit's the truth, though.
It's the truth and yeah, setoKaiba was doing the most, anyway
, but it is that main truth ofthe fact of like, okay,
absolutely I fully get it, Ifully understand, because it's
like you know what happened inhis past.
We're understand because it'slike, oh, you know what what

(23:26):
happened in his past.
Like we're not talking aboutthat yet, but when we do
understand what happened in hispast and it's like how much that
affected him and how much it'slike there can always be some
type of difference.
You need to always look out foryour teammates because, in the
end of the day, one personreturning back from a mission
that's completed the mission mayhave got completed, but what

(23:46):
was the cost?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
you know what we crazy enough.
You know, he just reminded meof Maverick from Top Gun,
because he had the same thinggoing on to where, like back in
the day, like oh, he was likemore of a hot head back there,
but then when he lost his boygoose, then he had to be real
careful from that point on,because I'm like, hey, man, I'm
going to make sure all y'allmake it out, yeah.

(24:12):
Most definitely he took that toheart.
So I'm like, yeah, I feel thatnow, yeah, he kind of reminds me
of Maverick a little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Those are usually, those are always going to be one
of the best legions that youhave, the ones that care more
about the people than themission.
And that's one of the reasonswhy we also love Gojo, because
it's literally, no matter howmuch you say it like look, the
mangaka has admitted the factthat, literally, gojo is an
exact copy from Kakashi.
It's literally as far as thesame ideals into it too, because

(24:39):
Gojo feels the same way.
He says like fuck the system,fuck everyone else into this.
It's about my people, my team.
It's like we're going to try toaccomplish the mission, but we
need to accomplish the missionwith everyone surviving as much
as possible.
If we accomplish the missionbut it costs all these survivors
, then we have no, then we have,we're left with no people and
it's like, was it really worththe cost?

(24:59):
And in most cases, like no, itreally wasn't.
It's like.
No, it really wasn't.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's like they're not completely lawless.
It's more like they'reunorthodox, like they don't
necessarily play by the systemrule, but they'll play with
their moral high ground.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So it's like, yeah, and just understanding how
things are going to go, becauseyou have these old heads that
are willing to sacrifice theseyoung people for like what end,
like, it's like, literally, theparallels.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
The fucking parallels , when you really think about it
Between Yuji and Naruto.
Like the parallels, it wascrazy.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Absolutely right there.
Right, it's insane.
We would not have had JujutsuKaisen If we did not have Naruto
.
That's just real talking tothat.
Not have had jujutsu kaisen ifwe did not have an aruto that's
just real talking to that.
Plus, I think thinking aboutthat, like each curse technique
was just just the same, as likeeach family has your own special
jutsu that they like.
Yeah, yeah, even some of themhave kagakien kai too, and this

(25:59):
is like yeah, just it's the same, and kekegenka means there's's
a kekkei genkai when you thinkabout it one of the other things
and I'm happy that we get achance to talk about this in
Naruto too is that it was fullyadmitted that literally the
kekkei genkai the Naruto systemwas also very much based on,

(26:19):
again on Hunter x Hunter.
Hunter x Hunter again wasproving itself to being a major
staple in anime that most powersystems are usually derived from
either nin or ki and it woundup being technically a form of
both.
By using um she, by using thechakra, was literally based in

(26:40):
the, the flow of chakra andchakra in the body was actually
a mix from both key um from theoriginal dragon ball, not as
much in dragon ball Z, but fromthe OG dragon ball, based upon
um master Roshi's teachings.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
And we can go.
No, I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Like I don't like how the wayyou're kind of explaining chakra
we like to see with chakra andkey, you know that one episode
when on gohan was teaching vidalhow you use ki, it just make
you think dang like can Iactually?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
do this shit like let me try some.
Look, there are people thattruly do believe you kind of
want to try it now there arepeople that truly do believe it,
that truly believe that thechange of ki can actually make a
big difference.
The one thing I'm a truebeliever in is say medical jutsu
.
Medical jutsu is literallyalchemy.
I'm gonna go ahead and put thatout there.
This is alchemy.
So we're gonna tag in someformal alchemists in there too.

(27:31):
But alchemy has been around fora very, very long time, and one
of the biggest belief inalchemy especially in chinese
alchemy, um, not just theegyptian but chinese um belief,
is that alchemy and ki goescorrelates together.
It matters into the body andthe spirit, and it's the same
way with chakra, because it'sone of those ones like.

(27:51):
Medical jutsu is about puttingthat chakra, that inner, that
inner energy and the outerenergy together, like whenever
they make the medicines, whenthey make the enhancement
medicines, the food pills, andum, as far as like the healing
medicine, it's the same thing.
It's the fact of like.
I can put this on you this willhelp your body, but your spirit
needs to heal from the insideas well too.

(28:13):
The healing will not stick ifthe spirit still feels that it's
hurt.
So you still need to be able todo your inner healing along
with the outer healing and aslong as you can get that balance
in both, it feels like you canrecover from anything.
A lot of that Chinese alchemy,a lot of that healing jutsus is
really based into stronglybelieving that you're going to

(28:33):
be okay.
Like having a moment where youfeel like you have a bad cold.
You're laying down, youconstantly feel sick, but the
minute you get up you startexercising, it kind of helps a
little bit.
You're like, damn, I don'treally have energy for it.
But the minute you get pastthat mental mindset of I'm going
to give myself energy to dothis, I'm going to help sweat
this out, I'm going to help pushit through and stuff, and you
push through that mindset, youstart to feel better because

(28:54):
your body believes it feelsbetter.
That is your inner chakra.
Here I am going into a tangent,I'm sorry.
Here I am going into a tangent.
I'm sorry, but no, that's it.
But it is one of those thingsinto.
It's like yeah, like you say,feels into it.
Yeah, you can technically stilltry it.
The hand symbols is one of theones that's connecting the body
together.
It's like imagine you're.

(29:15):
It says the flow of chakraflows out of your body through
your feet, through your fingers,through your head, but by
connecting your hands together,you're creating a circle of
chakra throughout.
You're creating the innercircle and weaving your fingers
in different ways weaves thechakra flow to create different
things to happen, and that'swhat causes you to create jutsu.

(29:35):
The one thing that I will saythat I really, as as much as we
get it later on we don't get atthe beginning with land of waves
, but we get it later on is thefact that I still want to know
what was in that scroll, how thehell it is that naruto went
from not being able to make asingle shadow clone whatsoever
all his shadow clones it does tobeing able to make a mass

(29:56):
amount.
The only explanation that weget and it's not even from this
is kind of from shippuden, so,forgive me, it's a quick jump
into it is that he's dividinghis own life energy, his own
life chakra, into each of theseclones, and that's how he kind
of does it, and I'm just sittinghere like that doesn't answer
my question.
He goes from not being able todo it before.

(30:17):
It's now all of a sudden he can.
I'm just reading the scroll.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I think it was one of those plot devices to where
it's like, okay, he was kind ofin a fight or flight type
situation, so he was kind oflike a corner beast.
You know, hint, hint, nudge,nudge, you get it.
You get it, so it was almostlike kind of like a quick burst
of energy to where I'm like,okay, I don't got time to really

(30:41):
think about it.
It was like, alright, you'retrying to learn something, you
apply it right away.
That's usually like the bestwindow to actually learn
something when you're able toapply it like immediately.
So it was like I don't got timeto really think about it or
like second guess it, I'm justgonna have to do it right here,
right now, with one shot.
You know, I'm gonna take it.
You know that type of shit.
But I don't do it um, why areyou saying all that crazy thing

(31:06):
is?
I'm now flashing back to thedays where keep in mind this
anime was I'm rolling out.
At the same time, I was taking,uh, martial arts with a playboy
here.
So I would think it's kind offunny how, like at that time, I
was thinking like, okay, well,I'm learning martial arts, I
also can learn chakra and belike doing some of those

(31:26):
techniques.
You know what I'm saying oh,yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
See, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
All that shit was just like it didn't do nothing,
but just like heighten theinterest in that shit yeah, like
, especially when you considerTaijutsu and I can say that
because you know we're going tobe introduced to Rock Lee on
season one anyway.
So, yeah, like you be learningTaijutsu and shit I'm like, oh
hell, yeah, like I'm going to bebad, especially when you learn

(31:56):
how to unlock those 8 energythat's insane.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Uh, now I want to talk about this.
It was land of waves is yeah,because I know we haven't quite
got it still pertains to land ofwaves before tuning exams.
Uh, zabuza, zabuza and haiku.
Now, one of the craziest thingsabout it, and I want to make
sure I can sell this debateright here.
This is a very important thingto understand.
Okay, people was talking about,oh, you know, zabuza.

(32:23):
He was one of the earlierfighters, so he was one.
He was weak.
No, zabuza was one of the sevenswords.
He was extremely powerful,ninja, and they're like well, no
, think about he was taken downby by naruto.
No, he was not.
And he was not taken down bykakashi.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Kakashi admitted that he was having trouble fighting
this guy it was, was Gatofucking feeding him, going
behind his back and shit, hisboys kind of backdoored him.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
That was like it's not even just that one too.
I'm talking about the fact thatliterally in the fight, the
multiple fights between Zabuzaand Kakashi, if you really pay
attention to it, zabuza hadKakashi multiple times.
He literally trappedakashi in awater prison.
Kakashi literally could notescape.
That was zabuza.

(33:11):
He did that and it's like, keepin mind too, for things like,
well, that was kakashi wasweaker at the time too.
No, kakashi's strength neverchanged until shippuden.
His strength, kakashi strengthand his abilities stayed the
same all throughout the originalnaruto series.
It never changed.
So the same kakashi that wentup against itachi, that

(33:33):
literally went up against um,that, yeah, went up against
itachi and stuff and got trappedinside of itachi's uh jutsu,
his genjutsu, and forgive me,I'm not going to jump too far
ahead, but just saying it's thesame kakashi that fought zabuza,
and understand that.
So it's like, no, his strengthdidn't change.
Zabuza was not a weak opponent.
We got hit early on tounderstand that going against

(33:57):
ninja.
They're going on the missionwith ninja and going on a high
level because they kept pushingso bad.
They needed a high levelmission and, like I want a
higher level mission and thisone was one that started off
like a c rank.
It was found out it wassecretly an s rank mission.
This thing was actuallydangerous.
If they knew they were going upagainst zabuza, they literally

(34:18):
said, no, we would have chargeda whole lot more money and sent
well stronger ninja after this.
There was no reason for us tosend any type of genin after
this whatsoever.
And even when kakashi as ajounin would not have gone by
himself, kakashi struggledagainst zabuza.
Zabuza was not a weak opponent.
So when people literally talkabout that and it's like those

(34:40):
cousins at the very beginning,no, you're missing the point of
him being at the beginning.
It was to showcase that therewas a huge power scale into that
.
Naruto and sasuke did notdefeat zapuza.
They got the jump on him.
They got the jump to make himdrop the water prison.
It was not gonna hurt him.
He was not gonna get hurt by nogenin.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
That was never gonna happen I mean, that's kind of um
thing when it comes tolong-running shonen anime, to
where it's always like, okay,you go against the first guy and
the first guy is fairly strong,but in comparison to what we go
on see in the later down theline, it just seemed like, oh
well, they're being downplayed.
Comparison law but say, forinstance, we were doing the
dragon ball um stream review allover again and we're talking

(35:23):
about it's just seem like, ohwell, they're being downplayed.
Comparison look.
But say, for instance, we weredoing the dragon ball um stream
review all over again and we'retalking about raditz.
Well, keep in mind that, yeah,like, compared to all the
fighters that we see nowadays,like you could say that raditz
don't hold a candle, but he'sstill strong, he's not weak.
It's just, you know, um, theyjust go up against stronger

(35:45):
opponents the more they.
You know, that's just kind ofhow it goes.
Like you beat this guy, he'spretty strong, like you could
have lost but you pretty muchwon by the skin of your teeth
and then you end up fighting oneven stronger opponents.
So it's like, just because theywere like the first few
opponents you ever fought,doesn't mean that they're weak.

(36:06):
Like, say, for instance, likewe were just talking about the
one piece of streaming feud towhere you have guys like Don
Krieg and Arlong, to where, like, yeah, there may not be one of
the Yonko or anything, but thatdoesn't mean they're weak, it
just they just happen to be thefirst opponents that they fought
.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Exactly, but yeah, so it's like, yeah, you kind of,
do you get that little mentaljump into it?
It's like, oh, it's just one ofthe first bosses.
Nah, bro, that's what I likefor the anime.
Hey, I'm trying to rememberexactly.
It was one anime oh, tale ofthe Cautious Warrior is the
English translation for it butum, literally that one was one
where the main character, he,gets isekai into another world.

(36:50):
But he was like I'm not ready togo into this world yet and it
was like they were getting madat him because it's like you got
to come save this world.
It's like it's just a level onevillage, you'll be fine.
He's like, no, I'm not readyyet.
He didn't jump into into leveltwo, he was at least level 50 or
something.
And then when he jumped inlevel 50, he found out the final
boss knew that the hero wascoming to the world.
So he sent literally a level 50enemy into the level one

(37:16):
village.
And so he was actually smart bybeing prepared.
It's like similar to that to me.
And Nat Dude, it's the samething, you got to be to me, and
that Dude, it's the same thing.
You gotta be very cautious andbe prepared.
You think it's like, oh, it wasthe first Boston Music Awards
week.
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Hey yo real quick.
Can we talk about one of theoriginal Kings of the Trap?
When I say that, I mean Haku.
Well, not just that, but alsothe whole thing, to where he was
one of the first characters,where people were like wait,

(37:53):
hold on, is that a boy or a girl?

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Because that face looks very androgynous.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, that kind of trap, because you're like
thinking like Catfish.
Yeah, you'd be like catfish.
It's a cute girl that Naruto'sChopping up with.
Forget Sakura.
There you go, naruto.
Yeah, there's Hinata too, butyeah he's a cute girl for you
right here.
And they're like oh, by the way, I'm a boy, I'm a boy.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Let's just put it this way Naruto's first kiss was
Sasuke, so he's already there.
I like how Sakura tried to playit off too.
She was like, oh yeah, I knewhe was a boy all along.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
But then in her Sakura was like I thought that
was a girl he didn't even awakenhis sharring gun yet.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
He already knew that.
How cool was a guy.
He just knew it was juststraight off.
He's like that's not a girl,that's a guy.
Kakashi was like yeah, that's aguy.
Naruto and Sakura was like ohwait, huh.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Naruto and Sakura looking at each other like Are
we stupid?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
You know they still do that in anime Right now like
that's still the whole trope andI absolutely don't like it.
Sometimes, like there'sliterally this one anime where I
promise you I can't rememberthe name of it, but it's the
same thing where the main well,not one of the main characters,
she looks like a very beautifulguy, like super pretty male type

(39:43):
thing, and so when you see thecharacter, you're always
wondering, you're just like, oh,oh, okay.
So this person has, I guess,either trans or something, or
maybe just someone who's queeris what I'm assuming, because
it's like, oh, it's a pretty guywho's wearing a skirt.
So I'm like, okay, I guess.
But then you find out in thestory no, that's a woman, she

(40:06):
just has eight cups and she justhas a strong jawline.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Or it could be the opposite they could be boys but
they have very girly features.
I wanted to say Steins Gate fora moment, but that's not the
strongest example I could thinkof.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Assassination Classroom.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, nagisa, that's true, but hold on.
The strongest example I couldthink of Assassination classroom
.
Yeah, nagisa, that's true, buthold on.
The strongest example I couldthink of was fucking Hideyoshi
from Baka and Test, where theymade a whole fucking deal about
him being androgynous.
Where I'm like bro, I keeptelling you I'm a boy, I'm like
man, you ain't fooling nobody.
You can say it all you want,but to where I'm like bro, I

(40:47):
keep telling you I'm a boy, I'mlike man, you ain't fooling
nobody.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
You can say it all you want, but what we looking at
looks like you, someone else.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I know what you mean.
Like yo, you even go out inlike the beach episode and have
like board shorts and whatnot.
Like it's just like perfectlymale.
I'll ask for male clothes.
I don't know why they keepgiving me these androgynous
unicef clothing.
And then when he was trying torun out, um, with not like okay,

(41:16):
he was like bare chested, right, and you know he's a boy, so
that's cool, right.
But then some lifeguard justran out like hey, you can't be
doing that.
This is not a top with these.
I'm a boy, what are you doing?
I thought that was funny asshit.
But watch Bakken Ted's Nerdsand Nerdettes on Check out

(41:41):
Bakken Ted's.
It's funny as hell.
But yeah, haku is all acharacter man.
I kind of felt.
But yeah, haku, solid characterman.
I kind of felt bad for HakuBecause you know the
relationship he and Zabuza hadto, where Haku Witnessed his
mother Getting killed by hisfather.

(42:01):
He just wanted someone to lovehim.
And then here comes Zabuza,pretty much using Haku as a tool
and he just wanted somebody tolove him.
And then here comes zabaza,pretty much using haku as a tool
and he just wanted somebody tolove him, and then do it at the
end, um, in the very end,kakashi ends up on killing kaku.
You know, not on purpose, butmore like he was trying.
Haku was trying to protectzabaza from getting killed, so

(42:24):
he kind of sacrificed himself,and then Zabuza was lying next
to him being like damn, I neveradmitted that I needed you and I
loved you.
You know that type of thing andI'm like, yeah, I kind of feel
for him at the end.
That's what I'm talking about,that emotional weight when I was

(42:44):
like you kind of feel somethingfor these characters by the end
of the tussle.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
This is true, this is true.
I'd even go so far as, like,like you said, with the
emotional thing versus I was inunderstanding that he had he
lived his whole life as a rogueninja, like forever type of
thing.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
They were both tree-like monsters, and that's
what they became, yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yep, monsters of the mist and stuff, oh yeah and I.
One thing I really liked abouthow about this fight too, is
that we get so manyintroductions to understanding
of what the story is reallyentailing.
Like I mentioned before, wealready talked about the fact
that, yes, I was, was about it.
He literally was a strong assmotherfucking ninja.
He was a strong ass water ninja.

(43:28):
But not even just that.
Going even a step further, weget our real understanding and
breakdown of keke genkai.
So we get to see a keke genkaifor the first beginning,
understanding haku's absolutecontrol of ice and getting a
full understanding that it'sjust a bloodline trait.
This is not just a normal jutsuthat anyone can do.
Only I can do it.

(43:48):
It's my own special thing.
And that moment of Haku beingable to hide himself in these
mirrors into like a mirrorpalace and it's like, aside from
being cool, it made you scaredbecause you was like dang,
sasuke is about to die.
Then Naruto is dumbass, decidesI'm gonna jump in and help you,
and then jumps in and literallySasuke is like you, dumb

(44:12):
motherfucker, why the hell didyou jump into this?
So we get an introduction forKeke Genkai and understanding a
bloodline trait with Haku andthen getting a chance to see
Sasuke awaken his own KekeGenkai because understanding
that the Sharingan first awakensnot because of anger and rage

(44:32):
but because of the will toprotect and that becomes a very
important staple later on,because the Sharingan awakens
from that.
But every different emotionalchange causes different
evolutions of the.
I was about to mention that howemotional change is causes
different evolutions of the ofthe of the um about the city.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, I was about to mention how, how, like you have
the different tomes in theshuriken, but then by the time
you get to mangekyo, then it getlike kind of drastic a little
bit.
You know, like the conditionsyou know.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
So I will say in this aspect here um, one of the
biggest complaints for thenaruto franchise is keke genkais
.
Um, and they tried to fix itwith boruto but it didn't work.
It's very similar to whathappened with dragon ball.
With the dragon ball franchise.
The dragon ball franchise youknow, you had toriyama was
trying to switch from goku togohan, trying to switch

(45:21):
characters and stuff.
But people was like, no, welove that, we love goku so much
we want to just keep and stickthis, stick with him throughout
the entire story.
Um, that same thing happenedwith the shuriken gun.
The shuriken gun wound upbecoming the most popular
kekegenkai and they wound upretconning something.
Originally.
They a story wound up sayingthat the shuriken gun was a

(45:42):
derived form of the byaku gun.
That was actually what theyoriginally said and it might
even have been a mistranslation,but that's what they originally
said was, the Sharingan was aweaker version of the Byakugan
and was a derived version fromit.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
But then they went back and changed that, yeah,
okay, hold on, go ahead andfinish, because I think you're
about to say what I'm about tosay Hold on, but then they went
back and changed it, and thenGreater winds up admitting the

(46:17):
fact that as we got further on,even all the way into Shippuden,
they forgot about the other GetKick In guys.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Exactly, and they admitted that in an interview.
He was like, yeah, I actuallyforgot about it and I wound up
sticking older with the ShrineGun and that's why we got all
the way to madara and stuff likethat.
And it was like, yeah, so weget this introduction to land of
ways and we get more kekegenkai before we get to
shippuden.
And then it's like just forgotabout it.
No, I'm saying seriously, youforgot about all the other keke

(46:43):
genkais.
It's like, yeah, that's whythese other characters went to
the back burner, because we onlyfocused on just the Shoryugan
and that was it.
And then we made an entirestoryline on it.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, I was going to mention how I always thought
that with the Shoryugan and theByakugan I thought their
relationship was they were justtwo halves of well.
I know it's like different andit's not exactly, but I always
thought it was like the samerealm, like Shoryugan, Byakugan
and Renegon just like shit hadlike this Relationship going on,

(47:14):
when I thought it was likeShoryugan and Byakugan were just
Derivative of the Renegon.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
So that, literally, is what the story Got changed to
because Originally yes, it wassupposed to be.
the Byakugan was the superiorversion, and then the Shurin Gun
was what happened.
When the bloodline was broken,somebody went outside the
bloodline and married someoneelse, and that's where the
Uchiha's wound up coming from,and that's where the Shurin Gun

(47:42):
came from, and it wound up beingthe Byakugan pure as white, but
the shrine gun being red forblood is.
It was supposed to be a sign ofbroken blood and that was kind
of what it was, and then thestory wound up changing no, no,
hold on, hold on, hold on, waita minute.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Okay, so the huga clan?
Are they natives of the hiddenleaf right?
yes okay, hold on, stay with me.
So, essentially, someone fromthe huga clan probably stepped
out and found somebody with thisdifferent ability and that's
how the chihau came out to beright.

(48:19):
All right, essentially.
So you're telling me thatessentially well, even though
the Yuga clan probably didn'tfeel that way Towards the Uchiha
At least it wasn't that obviousto me.
But I just like how there waslike this discrimination Towards
the Uchiha clan and I'm sittinghere like Y'all treating them

(48:41):
like they're fucking half blood,like oh man.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
And that was the original reason that through
chiha was massacred.
They were massacred forthrowing a coup.
That still stayed the same.
They massacred for throwing acoup but the, but the people who
pulled out the um, the massacreoriginally wasn't supposed to
be itachi, it was supposed to bethe people who who actually
massacred and wiped out thechiha clan, though it was still

(49:07):
kind of putting a stone thatitachi was a big point into it.
That was all.
That was the beginning ofsasuke's backstory, of him going
after a certain person andtrying to like hit into this.
But it was supposed to be thatthe, the hyuga clan, were the
ones who ordered it.
This was before they changed.
This was before it got changedto donzo being the one to do it.
So it was well before that.
I'm sorry I'm name dropping.

(49:29):
If you guys have never seennaruto, forgive me.
Donzo is a character for later,much, much later on um.
But there was change before.
Before it was supposed to bethat they were wiped out because
the, the hyuga clan and theuchiha clan were not getting
along and the coup was supposedto be them also being very upset
with the Hyugas and then likekind of rebelling against them

(49:50):
type of thing, because they werealways considered inferior,
because I don't know, I'm justmaking a D&D reference.
The Hyuga clan were like theelves.
They thought of themselvesabove everyone else.
They were the hierarchy, likeyou had a Hokage but you had the
Hyuga like they were the rich.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
They gave you like the high elves, because you know
there's elves and then there'shigh elves and you're like no,
no you may be an elf, but you'renot like one of us, you're not
like a high exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
It's like you're a half like, like the uchiha was,
like you're half length you'rehalf, you're below us type thing
, and it was like that's howthey were treated per se.
But then, yeah, the wholestoryline completely changed to
what it is that we know ofnaruto today.
But that was, I remember thisbecause and that book that I had
mentioned earlier, that bookthat kind of got me and my
friends out of detention uh,well, actually as a teacher, for

(50:39):
being expelled from school.
But that book also talked aboutit and I remember literally it
changing, like in that sameschool year when the story had
changed and I was confused.
I'm like, wait, don't you stillhave that book?
And he's like, yeah, and Ilooked at it.
I'm like, yeah, it literallysays here that the byakugan was
the improved, was like theoriginal version of the shuranga

(51:02):
.
Shuranga was like a derivedform of it per se, something
that was like an off-beating ofthat, and it was like, oh now,
but then they made it twocompletely different, separate
entities and, like you saidbefore too, if you were supposed
to mix the byakugan with thesharingan was especially with
the, with the mangekyousharingan, you would get the

(51:22):
renegade right.
Well, that is also not true,because that was completely
retconned with boruto.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
No, I didn't think it was like mixed together, more
like derivative of the renegade.
Uh, they were both derivativesof the renegade, like they were
like kind of like with the uhshit, like I want to say the
whole thing with the twodescendants.
I know we're talking way intojipudan, but you know the two
descendants.
I know we're talking way intoShippuden, but you know the two
descendants of the mother Chagat, that type of thing going on.
That's what I was thinkingabout.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah, yeah, so it's like, and then Boruto winds up
changing.
That's the reason.
But yeah, no, so yeah, they do.
It's supposed to be where theRenegon was like the original
eye, but then it changed up likea lot like the story changed up
so many times.
The strong gun winds up beingpretty much almost a separate
eye from the renegade almostlike nothing means anything

(52:13):
anymore that part, so literallystuff that you may watch because
, um, even if you go back that'swhy I said it might even have
been a mistranslation, becausewhen you go back and watch some
of the english dubs they have,like fundamation, redubbed a lot
of stuff.
So in order, during their hdremaster of things, and in that
redubbing a lot of that storywinds up changing.

(52:34):
But if you had watched, likewhen it originally came out, the
original dubbing did actuallymention it was, um, it was
hinata's father that wound upmentioning about that, that the
shrine gun was like an inferiorversion of the Byakugan type
thing, and I was like, okay, thewhole story changed,
exterminate all those half-bloodnewbies.

(52:58):
That part.
But then the other thing aswell, too, is that the Shrine
Gun is literally just an exactcopy of the Scarlet Eyes from
Hunter x Hunter, so this is afull confirmation on that.
The people were killed fortheir eyes.
It's the exact story that'sused for the Uchiha clan.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
See, that's why I was like I couldn't even buy it
when you were talking about oh,when you first activate the
Shrouding Gun, it gotta be theWill to Protect, but then it
gets down the line to where youhave to actually kill somebody
to gain more power.
And then I'm like, yeah, thatstarted to sound like some
Scarlet Eyes shit from Hunter xHunter, I believe it is exactly

(53:42):
what it was.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
It's an exact copy.
It was almost like hold on.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Let me take some notes.
I'm like that's pretty good.
I need to incorporate thatsomehow.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
But I like the story of the Shrouding Gun because it
details the growth of a person,Literally to first activate the
Shrouding Gun, like when Sasukeawakened it.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I love the different patterns of it too.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yes, and so when you first get the Sharan gun to
activate, it is the will ofprotect.
That's how you activate thefirst level of it In order to
activate the second level of itis when you got to start
understanding the strength ofpower, the yearning of stronger
power.
The third, and unlocking thethird is understanding loss.

(54:22):
So it's like it's literallythat growth of a person.
It's I want to protect you, Ineed more strength to protect
you.
I've lost you.
Then, in order to unlock themange kill sharing gun, it's
I've lost everything.
Now I take from someone else.
And it's like it's that changeand growth, because if you've

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unlocked the mange kill sharinggun, there's two ways to unlock
it.
You've either stolen it fromBecause if you've unlocked the
Mangekyou Sharingan, there's twoways to unlock it.
You've either stolen it fromsomeone else or you got it the
way Kakashi got it.
It was a gift, it was gifted toyou as a loss From the loss.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
The pain of what Goku would say.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Yes, literally, now you have to be a super saiyan.
So it's like, yeah, the will toprotect the yearning of power,
to protect losing, but theneither that advanced point of
actually like the fear of lossis what really gets the third
part, but then the actual lossunlocks manga, kill um and that
loss is either you actually lostit, you lost it from someone

(55:23):
and you wound up gaining thatpower from that loss, or you
stole it from someone and eitherway you still lost something.
You either lose.
You lose what you care mostabout, or you wind up losing
your humanity from stealing, andthat's the reason why literally
when sasuke unlocks hismangekyou.

(55:44):
Well, no, when.
When Sasuke winds up unlockinghis third Shuriken.
His third piece of evolution toShuriken was during his fight
with Naruto, because he waswilling to kill and lose to
unlock that power.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Oh, and don't forget, don't forget that if you happen
to take the eyes of someone whohas the Mangekyou Shuriken and
you already have Mangekyou Shurand you already have Mangekyou
Sharingan, you get an eternalMangekyou Sharingan.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Eternal destruction.
You've eternally given up yourhumanity at that point, because
you've now Willingly sacrificedEverything already.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
You're going down a path.
I can't follow.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yep, and he's literally like you know what.
I'm already here.
I might as well.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
See how.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Dark.
This road goes, and you knowwhat.
I'm already here.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
I might as well see how dark this road goes, and you
know I that kind of explainsOrochimaru's boner for the
Uchiha, when you think about it.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
He does have a boner.
Oh my God, oh dude.
The beginning Like thebeginning of tuning exams.
Playboy, I really want to hearhow you feel about Michael, how
you feel about the originalAnime Michael Jackson, michael
Jackson.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
This was the original anime Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I'm just saying Michael Jackson.
This is the original animeMichael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Nah, you talking about Richard Morrow?
Mm-mm.
Nah, okay.
So look, it's easy to put itlike this when he first appeared
.
It's easy to like.
Okay, I know we came acrossZabuza, but I was 100% sure
Richardrochimaru was thestrongest motherfucker on the
internet.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I mean this dude like man, just when you think you
killed this motherfucker.
This dude always puts awaysomehow.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Because you gotta understand, like in the Forest
of Death, like that wasn't evenfully him, like that was just
him fucking around.
Just like in the Forest ofDeath, like that wasn't even
fully him, Like that was justhim fucking around.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Just like testing the waters on Sasuke looking for a
vessel, you see what I'm sayingand you notice how and you
notice how, um the three of themthey were like, oh man, I can
fucking feel his aura, Like wecould fucking die for real.
Like this ain't like Zabuza,like I can actually feel this
man's aura.

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I don't like this shit.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Yeah, that says he was a motherfucking legendary
sonny.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
You feel me?
There's a whole lot of shitbehind that character that we
know I'm like.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
this dude was some of that fucking giant snake Like.
This is some of the fuckinggiant snake Like this is.
I don't think y'all prepared usfor this shit.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
No see, the thing about Royal Tomorrow is we
wasn't prepared for nothing.
We did not know that he wouldhave such an impact in the story
, even after the curse mark.
That went further than weimagined, because Sasuke didn't
even use curse mark after he youknow what I'm saying.
After he left the village andfought Naruto, that was, like,

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probably the last time he usedcurse mark.
But Orochimaru still, like,even through everything,
survived Naruto OG, survivedShippuden, like he had the
probably biggest characterdevelopment in the show.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
You mean to talk about now that he has a kid?
I ain't even gonna talk aboutthat.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Who is it?
They got Yamato just followingthis man around to make sure he
don't do nothing and he's justliving his life normally.
But Yamato's like no, I'm notgonna let this, he not slipping
up, I'm not gonna let him doanything.
As soon as anybody turn theirback, he gonna fuck around.
He's a snake, Once a snake,always a snake I fuck with.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Yamato.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yamato on his ass, but Erojimaru was chilling man.
You know what I'm saying.
Jiraiya dead.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I know I gotta get off soon, but since we are
talking about the beginning ofthe two new exams, I did want to
go ahead and talk about some ofthat.
The actual exams itself thebiggest exam everyone talks
about is the final fight, thethird one, where no one passed,
because, except Shikamaru,because he's the only one who
really finished his fight and hewound up getting interrupted by
Gaara.
The beginning, though, when weget an understanding of a little

(59:50):
bit again, more ofunderstanding of different
ninjutsu, but now other villages, so we finally survive Zabuza,
and then we get okay.
Now we go through the exams tobe able to get to Chunin, the
next level you're now getting.
Let's make it a Chunin.
Not many people can make itfrom Chunin to Jonin, but if you
can make it a Chunin fantastic.
Not many people can make itfrom chunin to jonin, but if you
can make it a chunin fantasticand it's like sweet, yeah, we're
gonna do this.
And the first part of the examis a written exam, and naruto is

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the only person to have everpassed and not wrote the damn
thing but his name I just likehow

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
the whole point was.
At first, the whole point wasokay, let's see if y'all can get
away with cheating on the exam,while sakuro, the only one, was
trying to uh, do the test likegenuinely.
But that was like not the pointof the whole exam was
intelligent enough.
He was the only one intelligentenough to actually do it, but
everyone else was like I justlike how naruto was, like man,

(01:00:42):
this some bullshit, like ain'twe gonna have me?
And I for everybody that saidthat you can go Eat a dick.
And I was like, oh, that's howyou feel, like yeah, that's how
we feel.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
I don't know why, that's how y'all feel Like yeah,
that's how we feel I don't knowwhy, alright y'all pass and I
was like.
Oh right, look.
The thing that Reminded me ofis We've all taken, all taking
it.
My kids literally just tookthis.
Take this test every singletime, the test of whether or not
you could pay attention to therules.
This is literally the thingabout it is can you actually pay

(01:01:11):
attention to the fucking rules?

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
oh, you remember you.
You remember on some when theteachers would be like, yes,
give you a quiz, right, and thenyou uh get to the last question
and it's like you better notwrite your name oh god write
your name.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
But you said put your name at the top of the paper,
flip it over, put your head down.
And it literally the first onesays read the entire paper
before you do anything.
And you see people doing alltypes of nonsensical stuff
because it says everything.
But then the last one, it'slike ignore everything else.
That's what this paper remindedme of.
Like this whole exam, I waslike I feel like this is exactly
what the mangaka went through.

(01:01:49):
The mangaka was like I'm gonnatroll these people, I'm gonna
troll my viewers and troll thepeople who read my manga and
watch this anime and understandthat, yes, I went through this
exact same quiz too, just likeall of y'all did.
I was like what the hell.

(01:02:10):
But I love that we gotintroduced to two characters who
got absolutely hoed Tintin, whobecame so unimportant.
But I do want to mention thisone.
If you don't know, there is aChinese made game.
It's funny.
We're talking about thisbecause you banning China from
everything, now my god.
But there's a Chinese made game.
It's funny we're talking aboutthis because you've banned China

(01:02:30):
from everything, now my god.
But um, there's a Chinese madegame based on Naruto characters
and they did Tintin justice.
Tintin is an actual weaponsmith.
She is fantastic in her inusing all weapons proficiency
and she's able to pop up weaponsjust from her scrolls like it's
nothing, and actually take downpeople because she's actually
powerful.
T up weapons just from herskulls like it's nothing and
actually take down peopleBecause she's actually powerful.

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Ten-ten got no shine in thiswhole show whatsoever.
Literally, a ninja who usesweapons, is proficient in
weapons, should be one of themost powerful ninjas in the
whole series and literally getsdenounced, the same as Ino and
Sakura, and I was like that isabsolutely not fair.
Ten-ten was fucking fantastic.
She should have gotten a wholelot more shine.

(01:03:12):
And then we got Rock Lee, whoalso unfortunately gets hold
towards the end of Naruto andthen Shubuden is just straight
up.
Well hold on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Despite what you say about Ten-ten and Rock Rock Lee.
And, by the way, I was going tosave the whole tuning
tournament until part 2 anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
So we'll go into detail.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Yeah, we're going to go into detail about each of the
fights anyways in part 2, but Iwant to say we're going to keep
it to part 1 of um.
You know, naruto part 1, Iwould say the one character that
definitely got hold in thegrand scheme of things, anko,
because they try to set thisgirl up to talk about.

(01:03:55):
Oh yeah, I used to fuck withOrochimaru and whatnot and then
proceeded to do absolutelynothing for the rest of the
series.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Bruh, they did Anko so dirty.
Anko was that.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I was a kid and as a kid I wasalways hoping for that one gust
of wind that was gonna blow thatshirt open.
I know I wasn't the only one,but it looks like I was like
come on, that's it.
What type of pasties and gluedoes she have?

(01:04:26):
Because, good, good lord, I'mlike how is she wearing it?
Through force and everything,her clothes getting snagged,
she's in a fight, her clothesgets picked up and still not one
reveal Like the celebritiesneed.
Whatever type of jacket she has, that's what these celebrities
need.
No more slippers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
She's one of those characters that awakens
something in some people.
As far as Wearing fishnets,like fishnet tops and whatnot,
like, yeah, that awakenssomething In somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
You mean at the same time watching Naruto, watching
Uncle, the same time I waswatching Kim Possible and oh,
shigo Razor from Teen Titans.
Childhood taught me something,yeah, yeah, you know, anko was
definitely Done dirty.
It was a character that reallyShould have to have More

(01:05:17):
development, and I think eventhe writer admitted that too.
It was like, yeah, in allhonesty, anko, I feel like I
didn't do as much.
I set up that there was gonnabe Something more for Anko and
then Just Left it alone.
Anko, I feel like I didn't doas much.
I set up that there was goingto be something more For Anko
and then just Left it alone.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Speaking of writers, thoughts and what not, I'm going
to jump back to Sakura and howI still remember to this day
when I was reading up on shitand I was reading how Kishimoto
Was, like, I pretty much WroteSakura At kind of like you know,
kind of like this avatar of themodern female roaming around,

(01:05:53):
and then I think it was you,kogagasa, that said that she was
actually based off a girl thathe used to like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
So there's a bunch of different rumors and none of
them are fully confirmed.
One was that a girl that heliked that didn't like him back.
But then there's a bunch ofdifferent rumors and none of
them are fully confirmed.
One was that a girl that heliked that didn't like him back.
But there's another one that'ssupposed to be his ex-wife.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
But now hold on and that's the reason why.
Regardless of whatever it was.
I want you to keep All of thatin mind Going forward as we
watch Sakura's character.
So it's like when we see Sakurado anything, I'm sitting there
like so that's what you'resaying, kishimoto.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I'm like that's how it is, that's how you feel and
apparently because he wasmarried at the beginning of
Naruto.
So as you see the developmentwhen he went through his divorce
, you'll see what happened toSakura, apparently, and that's
why some people make thosecorrelations.
You're just like I think Sakurais based off either an ex-girl

(01:06:54):
or his ex-wife.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
It's almost like who hurt you, kishimoto.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
For real dog.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Because the way you write Sakura it makes it sound
like oh yeah, he probably messedwith some girl.
He was really feeling her.
And then he was like nah, hegot back around with all the
Chaz and the Tyrones and thePookie and Ray Ray and I was
like you know, whatever, I'mgoing to get me a new business,

(01:07:24):
I don't care.
It just was so much.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
And I was like I don't know Playboy.
So much I was like I don't knowPlayboy.
What did you think about thoserumors like?
Have you heard any of those atall?

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
talking about like with Sakura and Kishimoto and
real life, his wife and stuffyeah, well yeah, more like on
what Sakura is based off of,because I think it's like based
off how, how.
Not, I don't think this, butit's more like on what uh sucker
is based off of, because Ithink it's like based off how,
uh, how, um, not, I don't thinkthis, but it's more like when I
read about it, he was sayingthat it was based off how um

(01:07:55):
girls normally move.
You know, like he's like she'slike the typical girl that
you'll probably meet on thestreet, you know um, I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
I didn't really hear much about that, but I did come
across like a post.
I'm not sure where I found itmaybe on reddit somewhere, but,
um, might have been reddit butthey were talking about the
difference between sakura in themanga and sakura in the anime
and how the anime actually madeher.
She was she, she.
It's not like she always spokewith naruto, but they really

(01:08:24):
made her a hateful character inthe in the anime, like some
things she said in the anime shedidn't say in the manga.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
And then specifically , english translation specific
english translation, becausejapanese translation didn't say
that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know, because like then, on top of
that, I think, with it beingamericanized, they wanted to
make it like kind of traditionalwith the aggressive, abusive
female character.
You know how that kind ofcomedy goes around, like
violence is kind of what kidsmake kids laugh.
So Naruto didn't have muchcomedic relief other than him

(01:09:01):
playing pranks and Sakura goingupside his fucking head.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
You know, you know what, you know what when you put
it like that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
You know I didn't read naruto manga but I did see
some panels.
And sakura she, I ain't gonnalie, she kind of didn't say some
of those things.
She she wasn't like a bestfriend of soccer I mean naruto
but she also wasn't as mean asthe show depicted her to be

(01:09:33):
towards him, like she was alwaysa sasuke dick rider, but she
just wasn't like that bitch tohim.
You know what I mean.
And after somebody explainedhow the trope is when it comes
to those type of like maincharacters, the love triangle
and stuff, it made sense.
I can't say exactly what othershows have done that, but

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growing up we see it a lot where, like it's a norm for the
female character to beat up onthe male character, he get a
fucking knot on his head.
That type of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
That's a major trope, especially in the most American
cartoons.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
I was just about to say, bro, I was just about to
say the worst example I couldthink of about that was this one
anime that's kind of likeobscure, kind of out of the way,
called Amabuda, where it's likethis one dude that's kind of
like obscured, kind of out ofthe way, called ah, my buddha,
where it's like this one dudethat's in this one place, like
he's a monk and he's with theseother monk girls and it's like a

(01:10:34):
whole bunch of shenanigansgoing on and it's all the girls
like fucking, like like realbitchy towards him, like they
all, all of them treating like ascrub and one day I just hope
like hey, man, one day he'sgonna on show you bitches, but
like no, it doesn't reallyhappen.
But uh, that was like the worstexample of how like it just
seemed like all these girls justbeing real mean to him for no

(01:10:58):
fucking reason it's supposed tobe a whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
You know, men are from mars, girls are from venus,
and stuff like that.
They're never supposed to trulyget along type of thing.
It honestly, to be honest withyou, I think it's always like a
lot of people think, if it's awhole political thing or some
type of major trope, to alwaysput discourse between us,
because the more we're unified,the more we go against the
hierarchy, and so it's likethere has to be some discourse

(01:11:27):
and we have to have some type ofbreak between us.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
There's so many theories into it I'm not gonna
lie I can't think of an old showthat reminds me of it, but I
just thought about a new onejujutsu kaisen, their trope, the
uh, they're not as very closeto it, but, um, even, even, even
with chainsaw, man, uh, powerbeats the shit out of dingy all

(01:11:51):
the time um, oh, you say youcouldn't think of an old one,
dude.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
That's every single cartoon we grew up on.
Hi, hi, if you want to stickwith anime.
Um, shit, that happened all thefucking time in uh, penny and
stalking guarder bell.
That happened.
And um, it happens in bleachall the fucking time.
In.
Panning and Stalking Garda Bellthat happened.
It happens in Bleach all thetime too.
You know how many times Rookiebeats the shit out of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
Rookie to go.
Oh yeah, now me beating theshit out of Rookie, now me
getting this shit, but keep inmind the dude's never supposed
to hit back.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
I won't say that it's technically.
He beat him up, but you couldsay any Yasha Kagome.
Whenever Kagome says sit, Ahyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
She proceeded to whack.
I went back and re-watched itbecause I was trying to be
prepared for this Yasha Himereview that we were supposed to
be doing.
Forgive me, I'm not going to beable to be on, but I went back
and watched that shit again thatwe were supposed to be doing.
And so, forgive me, I'm notgoing to be able to be on, but I
went back and watched that shitagain.
It wasn't just sit, she beat,she hit him on the head.
Almost every goddamn episode itwas a common trope to see
Inuyasha with the big swollenknot thing that they have, oh

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yeah.
With the little staple with thelittle cross bandages on it and
shit.
That was almost every damnepisode.
She would whack him, she'd beathim in the back of the head
about something, whack him inthe head about something because
he would do something stupid.
But that was a comment.
That's a very common trope.
It happened in all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
I mean think every time where, like uh, main
character guy caught on girldoing uh and doing something
perverted and then she beats himup for it online.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
That's like how dare you catch me doing this and then
beat him on it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
yes, literally he could catch you doing something
embarrassing, even though you'renot naked or anything.
Like he could just be catchingyou doing something embarrassing
.
Or like he just caught yousaying something that you
shouldn't be saying and thenshe'll just beat you up with
like you better not tell anybody.
I ain't goddamn okay.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Drama, drama, one half.
Honestly, it makes sense why.
You know that answers a lot ofquestions about shit I've dealt
with growing up.
Anyway, that's another storyand man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
sometimes life imitates art and art imitates
life.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Yes, and it's like dang.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
You have no idea how many times I have been beaten in
the back of the head andcouldn't do no because it was a
woman that did it no, I rememberwhen we were talking about dan
today and how I was saying likehow, yeah, like back in the day
I had a lot of girls that wouldbe mean to me for no fucking
reason.
It wasn't until way later inlife where I realized wait, hold

(01:14:29):
on.
Were they really being mean tome or were they flirting being
mean to me?

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
It's a lot, it's a lot.
It's almost like I'm sorry, butit's one of those things where
you thinking, okay, sometimes itbe like that, but you just
underestimate how common it iscan I go back and mention

(01:14:57):
something real quick youmentioned as far as about
Shikamaru and Choji being likethe original friends for them,
I'm gonna be honest with you,that's one of the biggest plot
hole and contradictions inNaruto, because it was a whole
staple for naruto to say becauseyou don't really see them doing
it um, in the beginning, butyou're supposed to believe that
they were there for him thewhole time yeah, but then when

(01:15:20):
naruto the beginning of narutois that that him on that swing
he kept growing up talking aboutthe fact that no kids would
ever play with him and like theywould never would, the parents
would never let him and theywould never be able to do
anything.
But then all of a sudden lateron we get flashbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
It's like, yeah, remember choji and shikamaru
used to hang out with naruto Idistinctly remember in the
academy that shikamaru and chojilooked down on naruto in like
the first episode yeah, like Imean, okay, to be fair, um, not
to make excuses for them, butyeah, that could have been a

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retcon.
But also it could be one ofthose things where sometimes
your own people be talking aboutyou behind your back and also
sometimes we be so down anddumps and holding a pity party
for ourselves that we be likesome of those folks that be like
, uh, oh, I have no friends, andthen meanwhile you have a whole
squad right behind you like, oh, so we don't mean nothing to

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you.
Uh, you know some of the peoplegoing online talking about, oh,
I don't have friends, butmeanwhile they got a whole bunch
of friends um, down the roadand some type shit.
So I'm gonna say, sometimesjust be like that when you're
just like kind of in depressionand whatnot.
But then again, yeah, like forthe most part I just consider it
kind of like a retcon to whereit just made it sound like, oh

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well, at least there was twopeople that was like kind of to
our friends.
But I'm like nice, I mean, theywere still kind of.
Well, some of them wanted toplay with naruto, but the adults
were like, no, don't play withthat boy.
And then, you know shigemaruand jojo was like no, no, let's

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give him a chance.
I don't know, it's just kind ofweird, depending on, but yeah,
like with the earlier episodes,you didn't really see that, so
it's like it's hard to believe,but whatever, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
I'm trying to think if I have anything on to that,
but no, I don't think I haveanything on to that.
I think it was just probablywas just a retcon and they kind
of just tried to keep it on tothat.
But honestly, it couldn't bethe same thing.
Like Playboy said to the anime,they wound up changing some the
dubbing, wound up changing somestuff.
That was said that probably wasnot an original manga, like it
could have always been thatChojin Shikamaru was down for

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him and they Shukumaru was downfor him and they didn't actually
like, they weren't actuallymean to him, but they changed it
in the dubbing.
I don't know, america does alot of different changes.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
we talked about that it's almost like do you want us
to believe that Naruto is aloner or do you want us to
believe that he actually hadfriends?
You know, I guess you could saythat it just depends on what
the narrative wanted us tobelieve.
We just want to convince themthat he's this loner kid, so

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let's give him some sympathypoints, some pity bucks, as they
say.
When you get down the line, youknow how they have their
flashbacks and then they willhave scenes where they were
younger and Naruto would defendHinata from some bullies and
whatnot.
It just kind of seemed like youdon't seem like much of a loner
when it seemed like there'ssome people that would still

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fuck with you.
But I guess in the beginningthey just had to sell the idea
that, yeah, Naruto was on hisown and we had to really
convince you that he was a lonerfor the most part.
But nah, he had people thatstill liked him, but for the
most part people kind of stayedaway from him because he was the
jing shiriki.
But you know, over time narutogained the trust of the village

(01:18:58):
and whatnot.
But we'll talk about that more.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
I can explain that real quick.
I'm gonna tell you why.
That's my, that's my boy.
I was there for the whole thing.
You feel me?
I was there for the whole thing.
So what happened was he didn'tknow that his people died.
So everybody in the village thedogs knew what he had, the kids
not so much.
They just know.
My mom and dad say stay awayfrom them.
Some kids didn't know why, so Iit.

(01:19:23):
I mean they're going to kind offuck with him just based off of
who he is Now remember he was aknucklehead he even
said my bad, I'm kind of tiredDoing some push-ups and shit.
He was even saying, like he dothese pranks because it get him
attention, like nobody shows himno attention if he's not doing

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anything.
So it's kind of like one ofthose kids who they're not bad,
they just they just want somefriends and they don't really
know how to express themselves.
And he expressed himselfdifferently than us.
Him and Sasuke are like sun andmoon.
Now they're also like parallelin a sense, that they're like

(01:20:06):
orphans.
But they got them.
Definitely, sasuke told narutowhat do you know about it?
You didn't have anything tobegin with.
I lost my family.
You see what I'm saying.
Like you woke up, didn't haveit.
I woke up and lost it.
You see what I'm saying.
So you just like, oh, y'all gotthis.
You don't know what it's liketo lose it.

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I would have been fine if Ijust woke up and didn't have
anything, but I lost my entirefamily.
You don't even know who youlost.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
For all you know, your people would still be out
there.
I mean, even though we know thestory behind this, but still,
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
You feel what I'm saying.
So it's like soft scale on somelike, yeah, yeah, yeah, you
feel what I'm saying.
So it's like soft scale on somelike, yeah, yeah, like all
these girls like me, but theydon't know what I've been
through, like I'm not worriedabout them.
Right now I'm traumatized.
I'm 12 years old.
My big brother killed ourparents, my friends, my cousin.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
You see, what I'm saying?
Like shit is dark, that shit iscrazy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
That's why he's probably the way he is and
Naruto the way he is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
And bear in mind and keep in mind the whole thing
about Naruto.
Like, whether we notice it ornot, the whole thing is that
these kids are being Raised tobe child soldiers Because, think
about it, you can go into theNinja Academy at like what
Younger and then 12 years old,as far as I know, because you

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know, most of these kids wereninjas.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Well, we're getting before 12 years old Kona Hummer
was like six or seven.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Yeah so you're pretty much training them up to fight,
fight uh at a very young age.
So I'm like this is likecharles soldier type shit, so
just uh, keep that in mind thewhole time we're talking about
all this shit they're.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
They're they're children of war.
Like yeah, I think it was afiller episode, but minato, uh,
he was.
It was like when it was first,like enrolling them in school or
whatever, some way and um ithad to be a filler because
honestly, minato wasn't evenaround when naruto was that age,
not from the episodes, but inthis episode it was saying like

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minato introducing young kidnaruto to sasuke.
Like hey, maybe y'all could befriends.
Then fugaku come up, sasuke dad.
He's like nah, they're notgonna be friends.
Sasuke's gonna prove a worthyRival for your son like they're
gonna be rivals.
Fuck all that friends shit.
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
They didn't meet each other.
It's more like they were likePregnant, like Kushina was still
pregnant With Naruto, and theywere having that conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
Yeah, pregnant with Naruto andthey were having that
conversation.
Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Memory's still a little foggy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I had to remember too I don't know the way you were
holding on on it, because thatcould have been like an
alternate timeline type shit.
They kind of did that duringthat one movie with Naruto
switch places and all that shit,but uh, they could have did
like some alternate timelinetype shit, but no, I remember
that scene where no, no uh atthe time yeah, I might be

(01:23:18):
getting confused because I knowthe conversation happened, but I
know this also happened withkakashi's dad and my godfather.

Speaker 3 (01:23:27):
Like you know what I'm saying, I think they had an
encounterment too as well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
I mean to be fair, they kind of repeat the kind of
thing where, like we'll talkabout it later because we kind
of run out of time anyways, butthey kind of do these things
where you kind of see it inmultiple forms, where, whether
it's like the whole situationgoing on between uh hashirama
and um madara, then you have uhnaruto and sasuke, and then, and

(01:23:58):
by the time you get to boruto,it's gonna be fucking boruto and
kawaki, so like it's alwaysgonna be like some sort of
repeating trope going on innaruto, where, like you're going
to kind of see that happeningmultiple times with these things
.
Just like how, keep in mindthat with Team 7, I want to say

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like there was always like in away, kind of like a two boy, one
girl type situation going on,but that's beside the point.
Uh, to some degree it was likegoing back to where, okay, uh
minato was being um raised up byuh, the third okage.

(01:24:43):
When was it third uh that, orwas it Jiraiya?
I'm kind of forgetting.
Yeah, fuck it.
No, no, no, I had it right.
Minato was under the thirdHokage and the third Hokage, I
think, was under Jiraiya.

(01:25:03):
It's getting kind of messy, butI'll remember when we get there
.
So third Hokage wound uptraining Jiraiya it's getting
kind of messy, but I'll remember.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
No, no, no.
So Third Hokage Wind uptraining.
Wind up training Dasani.
So he's the one who wound uptraining Jiraiya and Orochimaru
and Tsunade.
But the thing about it is Isthat Jiraiya wound up actually.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Okay, I got it.
Jiraiya was the one thattrained Minato.
Okay, I got it mixed up alittle bit Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:25:31):
So Jiraiya is like old as shit and the third Hokage
is like fucking in his 80s andshit.
It's still powerful as fuck,but that nigga's in his 80s bro
but notice how.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
But my whole point is notice how, between Jiraiya,
minato and Naruto, they were alltrying to pretty much develop
the Rasengan technique.
Where it's like, yeah, minatocreated it, jiraiya kind of
learned it and also taught it,and then he got to Naruto, and

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then he's the one that was goingkind of crazy with the
different variations of it, andthen Boruto took it even further
and, yeah, it's like it'salmost like passing the torch,
like the torch is going to bepassing, like some form of
fashion in multiple ways in thisseries.
That's what I love about it.
Where it's like, um, you seeshit like that.

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Where it's like, uh, with MikeGuy and Rock Lee, and then
there's Metal Lee now, and youknow the torch is going to be
passed and we're going to talkabout that a little bit more
when we do other parts.
But let's go ahead and wrap uppart one of the Naruto Serenity
Review right here.

(01:26:49):
You got anything y'all want toadd on to the first season.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I'm going to become Hokage.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
I'll wait, that's it by all uh, you took my cash
phrase, man oh, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Which one of us?
Which one of us?

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
is it me?
No, jet black, I was going tosay that about you because I
actually still use that to thisday, like I.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
I say that my bad I mean it's a certain I should
have said um, that's my ninjaway oh, yeah, yeah, yeah way.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
There you go, my Nindo, my ninja way.
You know, that's not even whatNindo even fucking means.
It's not being your way of life.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
So what if I'm not a genius like Neji?
I work hard and I try my best.
That's my Nindo, that's myninja way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
You know, but that's crazy.
We're going to talk about it inpart two anyway, but I need to
get the fuck out of this podcast.
I'm thinking about fuckingSilvery of a Failed Knight to
where you know.
For me to be the genius, I hadto become a demon, and funny how
that hands out in the way right.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
The River of Fel Night is such a great show,
though I need them to finishthat anime.
Bruh, finish it please, anyway.
But no, I ain't got nothingelse, I'm going to go ahead.
I got to get off too.
I don't want to push off mytime.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Alright.
With that being said, I don'twant to push off my time.
Alright with that being said,we're gonna go ahead and put a
stop, put a pin on this Naruto 3movie right here.
When we get back, we're gonnatalk about the shooting exam in
full.
We're gonna be doing thebreakdown of each of the fights
in the tournament arc leading upto the finals and whatnot, and

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then after that, by part three,we'll probably talk about the
whole thing where they gottafind Tsunade and then after that
it's the Sasuke Trivark and youknow, just go off on that.
So until part two, y'all justgo ahead and take it easy.

(01:29:17):
Alright, season two of Naruto.
We're going to be covering thesecond half of the Junia Zams
leading up to Naruto versusGaara.
I'm going to say this is thebest part about the original
Naruto, like I don best partabout the original Naruto, like

(01:29:40):
I don't know about the very best.
But I want to say, if anything,if nothing before that point,
got you tuning exams is where alot of fans, they got a lot of
fans in a chokehold, but just goahead and get it.

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Tuning exams, a pivotal eventthat tests the skills,
strategies and growth of theyoung shinobi aspiring to
elevate their ranks.
The additional and rigorousexamination that evaluates not
only combat abilities but alsoteamwork intelligence and
resilience.
It's a multi-stage processdesigned to assess ninja from

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different villages.
Uh, these exams not only writea passive, but also a diplomatic
gathering that allows differenthidden villages to showcase
their young talent.
We already talked about thatwritten test.
We did talk about the force ofdeath in the first part, but we
didn't talk about the part wherethe sound ninja was attacking

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team 7 and Sasuke's curse markwas taken over and he had a dark
moment with Zaku breaking hisarms and whatnot.
That happened, but pretty muchafter that.
Then they eventually got to thestage where they begin the

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preliminary matches of thetuning exams, and that's where
things get really lit.
So let's just go ahead andbreak down the preliminary
matches now.
First we got Sasuke versusYoroi Akado, who's like this

(01:31:32):
chakra draining dude, and he wasable to pin Sasuke down like
fairly soon, but eventually, youknow, sasuke um, got him off
and he did the lion's barrage,pretty much taking broccoli's
flow, and I'm gonna harp on thata little bit later.

(01:31:53):
But, um, yeah, you know, notmuch of a fight.
Uh, hope you guys got anythingto add on to that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
One gonna be doing like one not exactly too much to
really add on to it.
The shooting exams was alreadyjust kind of interesting, so I
like that we wind up getting achance to see that sasuke is uh,
you know, adapting his copyability, like Akashi has, you
know, being the copy ninja.

(01:32:21):
So the Lion's Barrage waspretty dope.
A lot of people hated it though.
They were just like, reallyit's just a pitiful version of
the Hidden Lotus, but otherwise,honestly, it wasn't that bad.
I thought it was pretty dope.
I mean, of course, narutowanted to do his own version
later on too.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Oh, but it's different because he's using
Shadow Quants, so it's kind ofcool.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
The second match was Zaku versus Shino.
Now Shino was able to calmlyuse his insect-based technique
to clog Sokku's air tubes.
That was rendering hissound-based attacks useless and
winning the match Once again ehnot much happened.
No guessing on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
So by this point, shino was my favorite character
in Naruto.
I was super appreciative ofGetting a chance to see him be
really Strategic with his bugs.
It was disturbing to be theleast.
I have a big fear of parasites,so it's just kind of weird that
Shino's my favorite character.
But yeah, fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I mean I can't help it.
Shino's kind of cool In a way.
He Kind of had that drip on himand we free time skip, post
time skip.
I'm like, okay, he put on somemore layers and like I mean, not
gonna lie, I would walk around,kind of like that, but I don't
know.

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He kind of had a long stylewhen he was younger.
I don't know what to say.
The third match Konkoro versusTsurugi.
Tsurugi was this guy who usesbody manipulation, so he was
kind of wrapping around Konkorolike a snake.

(01:34:11):
But Konkoro used his publickarate suit to deceive and
overpower Tsurugi Once again.
Eh, whatever, what?

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
do you have to say no , this one was kind of mad, to
be honest with you, Like it wasan interesting fight as a kid,
but when you go back and watchit now it felt almost filler-ish
.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Yeah, really, like I'm gonna say, aside from Sasuke
, I mean, we saw the lines broadand that was cool, of course,
but outside of that, it's likethe first three matches kind of
felt like filler, like you knownot much.
What's going on with thosefights?
In my opinion, a whole lot.

(01:34:50):
It didn't get real crazy.
We'll talk about somethingcrazy when we get to it, but
like, uh, not too crazy.
Now here's a fight that, ah,good lord, sakura versus ino.
Now of course we get a littlebackstory on their things where

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we see them being like formerbest friends and they were
showcasing their growth andtheir rivalry and you know,
sakura telling, you know howmuch he grown and whatnot, and
you know, like had to do thesymbolic cut her hair off just
to prove that, oh, she's alsogrown as a woman too.

(01:35:33):
And I'm like, see, that waslike the first time, like when I
was a kid watching this show,at first I was okay, cool, I
kind of get the symbolism, but Iwas not prepared for this to be
like a thing throughout modernmedia to where, like, a woman

(01:35:55):
has to cut her hair to symbolizesome sort of growth.
And I'm like, I mean I guess,but I don't know it's feels a
little unnecessary, like I getthe symbolism, but at this point
like uh, ultimately this matchends in a draw, haha.

(01:36:17):
I mean, I didn't expect them toget far enough to turn me
anyways, but you got anything atall to be honest, there's not
really much into this one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
The symbolism was supposed to be a whole thing of
growth.
It was like, oh cool, you knowSakura's supposed to be growing
as a character.
But let's be real, did she?
Did she really?

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
So match five Tamari versus Tintin.
Oh my god, tintin, tintin,sheenten, tenten, she got hoed.
She got hoed.
But here's how bad she got hoed.
In the manga it was only onepage to let you know what

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happened, but in the anime theykind of extended it a little bit
to be like, okay, she tried todo something with the ninja
tools, but samaria was like, uhno, and she just her win
technique to counter ten, ten'sweapon-based attacks.
And not only did tamari win,she won in style to where the

(01:37:33):
ten-10 fucking fell on her van.
And I'm like God damn, like atthat point I felt like RIP,
10-10.
You are sadly irrelevant.
At this point it's almost likeshe got the onco treatment a
little too early.
I mean, yeah, she's still likearound in the anime, whatnot,

(01:37:57):
like she's still kind of sort ofdo things, but it's like kind
of crazy that, uh, the one ninjathat's focused on ninja tools,
like she gets overshadowed byall the flashy ninjutsu and shit
.
So it just it was.
This is like the mostembarrassing fight.

(01:38:18):
Like honestly, I'm gonna goahead and skip to it right now
because it wasn't much anyways.
The last fight, choji versusdosu, where dosu uses sound
based attack to disorient uhchoji, while choji was like in
his ball form, uh, who wasstruggling to counter get the
auditory assault, because youknow, body being made of 70

(01:38:39):
water and those who use uh waysto incapacitate them, it wasn't
much.
So the reason why I wasbringing that up because like
yeah, there's not gonna be awhole lot of fights that's like
really noteworthy.
It was only like maybe outsidethat was just pretty much filler

(01:39:05):
.
But yeah, like it's almost likeShoji's fight wasn't as
embarrassing as Ten-ten's fightbecause I said enough.
Next fight, shigemaru versusKing.

(01:39:26):
You know the girl with theneedles from the sound ninjas,
so essentially she was throwingthe needles.
And what I like aboutShigamaru's fight is like it's
always strategic in a way andshikamaru was cleverly using his
shadow possession jutsu toposition uh keen into the right

(01:39:46):
spot to where, as soon as shewas like get close to the wall,
and then he would use the shadowpossession jutsu and like bend
over backwards a little bit soit's like he won't be hitting
the wall but she will, and thenthat knocked her out.
I like that one.
Uh kogasa notes.
I mean, I know I talked aboutkind of blurred through on both

(01:40:06):
of them, but like between the10-10 fight and uh, shigemaru
fight.
What's, what's your notes onthose?

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
oh, man, to be honest with you, some of the fights
actually started getting alittle bit better by this point.
Um, minus 10, 10, I feel bad.
You really think that, likesoccer gets a bad 10, 10 gets it
worse.
At this point it becomesirrelevant.
You don't even hear from her nomore, like literally she has no
important fights after this,and it was like that's so
upsetting.

(01:40:33):
And, um, I think the only alsoa little side note for this one
is that there's a Chinese gameright now that they made, and
the Chinese game does Tintinjustice.
Tintin is actually a fighterand does fantastic on her shit,
so that's just kind of how wehave right now.
So it's like, but I don't know,to be honest with you, this

(01:40:55):
really didn't get superinteresting to me until Lee vs
Gar.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
That's just real talk to be honest, well, hold on,
we'll get to that, but any noteson Shigemaru and his fight,
nothing, nothing, oh, uh, yeah,you're mic muted I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Can you hear me now?
yeah good lord, I am so sorry, Idon't know what is happening,
all right, but no, um, I don'treally have too much else into
this one because it's one ofthose ones like some of these
fights is kind of some of themoments into these kind of feel
a little bit forgettable at somepoint because the story it

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winds up being good at a pointwhere we really get a chance to
flesh out all the rest of likethe rest of the characters
during the training exams.
It's one of those ones that somepeople liked it, some people
disliked, because we didn't geta chance to really flesh it out
these characters like we reallyshould have, and it kind of hurt
my feelings and it's like, um,like I wanted to see more of

(01:42:12):
some of these characters andreally kind of see more of their
fighting styles, because it'slike we finally get a chance to
see other villages like how dothey fight, and we don't really
see it.
You know what I mean, right, soit's like dang, and so it
really kind of pushed into thatpoint where it was like, okay,
this is just an elimination.
We didn't expect this many kidsto actually make it, so we got

(01:42:32):
to eliminate.
Some of y'all also felt unfairand unprepared.
I'm like, seriously, y'allreally just was not prepared for
this.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
It's kind of unfair, you know yeah yeah, I think like
that sometimes might be unfairsometimes all right, here's a
fight that was kind ofinteresting naruto versus kiba
where naruto was trying his bestto fight kiba and his dog

(01:43:03):
akamaru, despite kiba havinglike enhanced senses and speed
um slashing through and all that.
But naruto kind of surprisedeverybody with his unpredictable
tactics and determination where, like, okay, first of all, the
funny part where, like, narutowas trying to do something and
then Akiba accidentally walkedinto a bar I thought it was

(01:43:30):
funny as a kid, but thenultimately Naruto did the Naruto
Uzumaki Barrage and defeatedKiba.
Yeah, it was kind ofinteresting.
Any notes on that, koki?

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
Not for this one, gotcha.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Alright, the last two .
Now we get into the reallyinteresting fights hinata versus
neji.
This one was heartbreakingbecause neji was overwhelming
hinata with superior mastery ofthe yuga clan's techniques,

(01:44:13):
demonstrating his prowess andharsh fate beliefs to where it's
like oh well, you know, afailure is a failure and you
can't escape your destiny andwhatnot, like damn near made
hinata go into cardiac arrestwith his, uh, eight diagrams, um
, bullshit.
And even though naruto wasrooting, uh, for hinata and

(01:44:33):
hinata had heart trying to topersevere, but it was just
getting uglier and uglier thelonger.
It was going to a point where,yeah, we're going to have to
like get her out in the gurneyand shit.
That's when it was like fightswas getting like really rough.
But uh, what you got for thisone Kogigasi, oh man what you

(01:44:59):
got for this one, cookiegatsu.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
Oh man, let me ask you a question what was your
favorite part at this moment?

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Nana vs Neji.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Yeah, I'm trying to prove a point here.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
I don't really know like, because my whole thing is.
I was just kind of impressed.
Keep in mind.
This was like the first time wesaw the Hyuga clan fight, so I
guess my favorite part was themfinding us learning as an

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audience how the biyaki gun workand how it can.
You can see all the differentuh connections of chakra and
whatnot, and neji was able topinpoint these chakra points and
shut on down hinata and whatnot, even though hinata tried to do
it too.
But it was like Neji was moresurgical with it and I
appreciate it that much.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
Okay, so in that aspect there we understand the
best part of this was Neji beingputting up a good like, doing a
really good job of fighting.
He schooled Hinata.
This was an absolute unfairmatch and they knew it was an
unfair match when it started.
This was so unfair.
Hinata this was an absoluteunfair match and they knew it
was an unfair match when itstarted.
This was so unfair.
Hinata's best girl, but she didnot know the stuff that Najin

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went through.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
She knew of stuff but she did not know.
Oh, yeah, you also.
Well, no, that's in the nextfight he's in.
But yeah, you can say he's beenthrough it.
But was that all you had?

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
another thing about it is this is just too serious
for the kids show at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
I'm so sorry yeah, like well, I was like barely a
teenager when Naruto.
Okay, I was kind of surprised.
I was, like you know, back whenwe thought it was like the cool
cartoons and all that.

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Oh shit, it's getting crazy inthis one.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
We started hitting slavery into this bad boy and I
was like, hold the fuck up whathe's.
Brandon Nigga, what yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
But was that all yeah ?

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Yeah, that's all I got.
I mean, the fight was, it wasintense, but this is not one of
those ones that I'm just likethere's nothing to really go too
much into, because it was allpretty much explained in itself.
There's no deeper really go toomuch into, because it was all
pretty much explained in itself.
There's no deeper meaning, it'sjust straight up.
This is slavery within thefamily and you're of higher
power, you're of higher classtype of thing, and this also
proves that being of higherclass doesn't mean you're

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stronger, you know Right, it'sjust privilege.
And I'm happy that he had not achance to understand what the
BS really was.

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
That's kind of all.
I got on that one.
And now for the best fight ofthe whole prelim Brock Lee
versus Gar.
A breathtaking fight where Leereveals his incredible speed and
strength, pushing Gar to hislimits.
However, with Gar's sanddefense it proves too formidable

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and resulting in leaf defeat.
But let me go into detail how,like you're thinking, okay, it's
almost like an unstoppableforce meeting a immovable object
right when Rock Lee is doinghis best, trying to break
through Garth's defenses.

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But then at some point youdecide, okay, let me just get
some space, let me get some highground, right, you go up on
that statue and guy was like hey, yo, lee, show these niggas.
I'm like, alright, do it.
So he take off the fucking legwaves and then tomorrow, over
there being a hater, being like,oh, what's he Gonna do with

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those leg waves?
All day, like, everybody waslike damn, like how fucking
heavy were those Waves?
And Ever since then he was likefucking Blazing like almost
instant Transmission type shit.
Girl was like Having fuckingblazing like almost instant
transmission type shit.
Gar was like having a hard timetrying to keep track, like
where the fuck is this dude?

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It's like flash steppingeverywhere.
And then eventually Rock Leehit him and everybody was like,
well, hold on, like nobody everinjured Gar before, oh shit.
And then eventually, like Garkept getting like some blows on
to a point to where gara startedto crash out and then he was on
, lash out and all that shit.
But then gara had to find outthat rock leave the crash out

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too, with the fucking thirdhitting gate open.
Oh man, listen, listen.
This was the most hype Fight inthe whole.
Fucking Jesus Christ, I wouldgive that fight a 10 out of 10

(01:50:10):
On it's own.
I absolutely agree with you onthat.
Even at the end, when Rock Lee,even though Gar shattered his
arm and his leg, dude wasunconscious and still standing
ready to fight, I'm like uh, uh,I am not going down that easy.
I'm like nah, nah, you can restnow, it's okay, buddy, you have

(01:50:33):
to prove nothing to themanymore.
But bruh, rest now, it's okay,buddy, you have to prove nothing
to them anymore.
But, bro, this fight here.
Now go ahead, koki.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
So this fight I enjoy because it really got a chance
to push how intense Lee reallyis.
We hear all the time that Leetrained heavily, he's trying to
get things prepared, he's tryingto do everything he can.
And this is like we get achance to really prove his
taijutsu.
Because let's be honest here hedidn't just fight up against
just any strong ninja, heliterally fought up against a

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mini-god per se.
These tail beasts, these jinchu, are mini-gods when they use it
.
Naruto doesn't really use hislike that, he doesn't use Kurama
like that.
But Gar Best believe his demonwas abused on demon time all the
time, because his demonconstantly is badgering him
about using his power,constantly telling him he needs

(01:51:29):
to do this, constantly tellinghim he should push forward and
stuff like that.
Like, yeah, kill, kill, killall the time.
You're not fighting againstthis, gar, you're fighting
against this damn demon too.
And straight up, lee held hisown.
We just hired you, sir, and I'mjust like you know what Mad
respect, bro, just straight upmad respect.

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This one was also one that Igot a chance to really like Gar,
because we get a chance toreally see his mental breakdown.
You know, he was not preparedfor this to happen.
He was not prepared for thingsto really kind of like, really
push through.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
He was not prepared for there to be a strong enemy
and this is the first time he'sever dealt with that he reminded
me of that one episode,futurama, where Brian Bender was
competing for most views ontheir version of Twitter and at
the very end where it's like thetallies was like getting neck

(01:52:30):
and neck, and then Bender waslike wait a minute, there's a
chance I could lose.
And that's what that was.
Guard right there Like wait,hold on, there's a chance I
could lose.
And that was Gar right there.
I was like wait, hold on,there's a chance I could lose,
hold on.

Speaker 3 (01:52:43):
I thought that was funny.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
It was the first time he felt fear.
He was just like yo, wait asecond, someone can actually
hurt me, someone can actually dosomething to me Now.
Granted, he had hurt him.
It didn't hurt him nowhere near, like what happens later on,
but lee still did hurt him.
He put him down, he wentthrough his barrier.

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It was the first time it provedto everyone else, because by
this point, gara is foreseen asthe most untouchable person.
He's the most dangerous one.
Nobody can do anything to him.
But now we finally got somebodywho was able to damage his shell
, literally to the point thatKonkuru and Samara was like come
on now.
No one's ever done this before.

(01:53:25):
Who's ever done this?
No one's ever done this.
Is there a chance that Garmight lose?
And it was like intense.
It was like okay, we get achance to really see that the
so-called strongest, mostdangerous person can be beat.
There is a possibility.
And he's like there's so manydifferent layers into this fight

(01:53:47):
.
This is one of those ones that,literally, the writer really
said that he absolutelyappreciated, he really liked
this fight himself too.
This is one of his favoritefights to write, as well as also
have animated, so it was likereally cool.
So, like I really, that's onereason I enjoyed the fight.
The only thing that also scaredme, though, was, unfortunately,
the down situation thathappened to my boy.

(01:54:13):
Lee got his arm and leg broke,bro bro, and I was like, no,
this is some spiteful shit, bro,this is spiteful shit.
The guy had to step in.
It's like no, bro, the fight'sover, chill out, ain't no point
in this.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
It was crazy.
For sure, I loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
I really did.
It was so dangerous and itreally showed the high states,
because everything else you'rejust like, oh, this is dangerous
.
This is the first time you alsosee such like oh, this person
could die in these fights yeah,like they.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
I don't think they made it fairly clear, but it was
like in the tournament.
It's like, you know, justbecause some people died doesn't
mean we're going toautomatically cancel the tuning.
These things happen, like, whywould we throw you into the
forest of death if we didn'ttake into accountability that

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you might die in that forest?
You know?
But, yeah, death if we didn'ttake into accountability that
you might die in that forest?
You know?
But yeah, and like I said, withthe Choji fight, you know, not
much happened.
So so, with that being said,there's the final tournament,
and before I even get into that,I gotta be fair and mention how

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Dosu thought he can catch Gaaralacking, but Gaara showed Dosu
that, uh, uh, I'm never lacking.
So Dosu died.
So yeah, there you go rightthere, like a participant died
before the final tournament andthey were like, oh well, we just
gonna have to keep it pushing.

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Then, also, because Konkorodidn't want to reveal all his
cards to the people, he was like, eh, you know, I'm gonna back
out of my fight.
So there was only like threefights in the final tournament
Naruto vs Neji, ikamaru vsTamari and Sasuke vs Gaara.

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And this is where, yeah, likethese are all fairly good fights
.
How, with Naruto fight, itdefies Neji's fatalistic views,
using his shadow clones andcunning um to outmaneuver Neji's
Byaku Gun and also to kind ofborrow the power of the non-self
fox to win the match.
Uh, shigemaru and tamari nowshigemaru, his strategic genius

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shines as he manipulates thebattlefield to catch tamari in
the shadow possession,especially using the same hole
that naruto used to surpriseneji with the fucking uppercut.
However, he conceded the match,recognizing his lack of chakra
and his respect for Tamari'sskill.

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It's almost like he pulledDoctor Strange and was like oh
you know, I thought of all thedifferent ways we can go about
it, but ultimately there's nogood way to go about it.
So I'm like you know, this isthe only way.
And then the final fight.
Listen, sasuke showing up withthe fucking drip, with Kakashi

(01:57:27):
and the leaves falling, I'm likethat's saucy.
That's saucy right there.
I'm like Sasuke was oralfarming at that point and his
fight with um gar, it was reallygreat.
Also, like how, uh gar, when,how you mentioned earlier how
sasuke was able to hurt gar andgar was like and shout out to

(01:57:53):
liam o'brien, that was likegreat voice acting At that point
.
But I also want to point outthat Sasuke, we know him as the
Uchiha who can like Copyabilities and what not.
But apparently he don't justcopy Jutsu, he be copying

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People's flow, because not justthe Lion's Barrage in the last
fight, how he kind of copiedthat from Rock Lee.
But think about it, bro, likethe stances, like with the hand
up and the cross arms and allthis different shit.
And I'm like, bro, like you'restealing Broccoli's whole

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fucking float walk.
He was standing in the fuckingbleachers Like, hey, yo come
steal my shit.
But that fight got interruptedwhen the Sand Village is like
you know what, now is the timeto fuck shit up and begin the
evasion.
And of course O orochimaru waslike, oh well, you know, uh, I

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guess formality is over withtime to reveal my hand to gonna
fight the third hokage.
They have their fight.
Uh the third.
Try to fight him off, try tounkill him.
But uh, orochimaru pulled afast one on him and naruto and
garo fought uh jin chirikiversus jin chiriki.

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That's where we learned thatgaro has the uh one tail within
him and naruto, being famous forhis talk, no jutsu convinced
garo to.
Hey yo, we're not so different,you and I.
And you know Gaara justeventually stopped and man, of

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course there's a funeral for thethird Hokage and all that, but
the tuning exam got canceled,however, because the way
Shikamaru handled himself inthat final fight the higher-ups
was was like you know what?
You were the smartest one outof all of them out here.

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So I'm like yeah, we might aswell bump you up to the tuning.
I know there was like a bunchof details that glossed over,
but that's pretty much what Iremember about the rest of the
tuning exams.
Kogayasu, you got anything elseyou want to add on to the final
tournament section here?

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
The final tournament was probably one of the best
fights.
Realistically, I'm happy we gota chance to focus more on
fights than story.
Sasuke's a hoe for being late.
Dude almost got eliminated andthey had to keep extending it.
He's a hoe, absolutely.
Uh, you can blame kasha all youwant, but no, that's all.
Sasuke, I'm dramatically late Ihope I made it.

(02:00:44):
No wait, just lame.
So um naruto being able to usehis brain just first off,
because everybody clowns narutofor not being able to use his
brain.
He was able to use his brainjust first off, because
everybody clowns Naruto for notbeing able to use his brain.
He was able to use his brainfinally.
That was something pretty smart.
I like also that we got achance to see we got a chance to

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see Neji really kind of dostuff.
It's the first time we get ahint that there's a weakness to
palm rotation before we reallyget to see what the weakness is
later on.
But it was the first time weget and get an idea that there
might actually be a weakness,especially how naruto was able
to work it.
So it was kind of luck on hisside, but it was still pretty
fun to watch.

(02:01:25):
Um shikamaru.
That whole fight was nothingbut strategy and it was like two
smart geniuses like, oh, I'mtomorrow's, like I'm a genius
too, I can strategize aroundeverything.
I'm smart.
And da, da, da, da.
And it's like you spend moretime bragging about how smart
you are versus shikamaru, who'sbeing humble, who was like I
could tell she's smart.
But I'm just gonna try to moveforward.

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I'm gonna do what I need to do,just gonna do what I need to do
, just kind of keep it simple.
But you know, just this is whatbeing cocky gets you pretty
much.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
I'm, like you know in retrospect, like just imagine
like Iguomaro talking toShikidai in Boruto, like hey dad
, how'd you meet mom?
And I'm like well, it allstarted back in the tuning exams
.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
That part.
That part is safe.
Oh, I did.
It was nice to enjoy sasukeversus uh gar, because he made
gar go into the shell, which wasapparently part of the plan,
but he forced him to do it early, which is pretty cool.
But what I really do enjoy isthe fact that we got a chance to
really really push and see thatthe chidori used by someone

(02:02:38):
else other than kakashi.
It was like akashi, you taughthim that technique for a shame
of you and it winds up actuallylike damaging guard guards.
Bleeding streams out of hisshell, my blood, and it's like
it was intense.
Definitely a big shout out tothat voice actor right there,
cause it felt intense watchinglike in English.

(02:03:00):
I actually have not seen thatfight in Japanese, crazy enough,
but in English it was.
It was blood curdling.
I was like Holy crap, holy crap, but I'm getting that chance.
And then, seeing the monsterarm come out, seeing the eight
tails arm come out, you're likeholy shit, what was that?
What was that?

(02:03:22):
That part?
You're like, oh, this is a realmonster, this dude's a real
monster.
And you're like we get a chanceto really see.
Oh, there's another Jinchuriki.
And it's like, oh, I like howthe story got to that point, but
I'm happy we got a chance toreally focus on.
This is an exam.
Let's see the fights, let'sfocus on these characters being
smart, using their abilities,and I'm like I really like that.

(02:03:44):
Other than that, I mean thewhole Genjutsu.
At least we got a chance to geta W for Sakura.
You know you can't get her witha Genjutsu because she's a
master at it.
Fantastic onto that.
She knew that immediately, wasable to release it out.

Speaker 1 (02:03:59):
Um, and they were able to kind of like I don't
think it's potential.
How like they didn't make herlike a?
I mean, yeah, she's a post-biggenjutsu master, but like I was
kind of expecting more genjutsufrom her and shippuden, but from
her and Shippuden, but Prettymuch Otherwise.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
The fight between Orochimaru and Third Hokage.
I'm not going to lie to you, itdragged on entirely too long.
For me, bro, that thing feltlike Goku vs Frieza all over
again.
I'm just sitting here like dude, y'all just spending more time
explaining what an attack willdo than that.
Just do it.
Good lord, it's like the ReaperDeath Seal.
It's going to take my life.
I'm sitting here and I'm goingto die, but I'm going to take
you with me, type of thing, andI'm sitting here like Reaper

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Death.

Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
Seal kept you alive.

Speaker 2 (02:04:50):
It's like Frieza, the plan's going to exploded.
Five minutes, 20 episodes later, this reaper death seal is
gonna kill me, releases thedozens deep reaper death seal.
And you're like, oh, it's gonnakill me.
And you're like, oh, okay, it's15 episodes later and this
nigga still ain't dead yet.
Like god, I'm like what thefuck?
Um, it was nice to seereincarnation jutsu, though also

(02:05:13):
, this is I like this fightbecause we get a chance to see
Forbidden Jutsu.
We got teased for ForbiddenJutsu way back in the beginning
when Naruto got the HiddenScroll, and then we never get to
see anything else about itagain.
It's like huh, it's like, dothey forget?
Or something like that, but weget a chance to really see it
again, so it's like awesomeagain.

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
So it's like awesome, and I just mentioned how I like
how orochimaru was trying toresurrect uh, the first, the
second and the fourth, but thirdwas like oh, hell no don't
bring out the fourth out here Ican't face him after the way I
had on his son living in sectioneight.
Nah, that wasn't a real reason,but can you imagine though?

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
I can.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
It's hilarious, absolutely hilarious oh, but no,
like you really don't wantthose problems bringing the
fourth into it but, um, but yeah, that fight dragged on entirely
too long.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Um, it was nice to see the first and second hokage.
You know getting a chance toreally see them.
You're like, oh, okay, that'swhat's up.
You know you get a chance tosee the previous hokageage.
You know getting a chance toreally see them.
And you're like, oh, okay,that's what's up.
You get a chance to see theprevious Hokage and you're like,
oh, we can't reveal the fourthHokage, that would destroy the
plot.
He puts a stop to that one.
You're like, yeah, oh no, itcannot be revealed to everyone
that Naruto's dead.

(02:06:32):
It's the fourth Hokage dead.
It's the fourth okaki.
It was like.
It was like it's all for plotpurposes.
There was nothing else into it.
He clearly could have stoppedthe other reanimation juices.
He just stopped the fourth oneand that was it.
He's like, nope, plot says no.
He's like seriously.

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
I mean, shouldn't that be like common knowledge,
like even naruto should know?
Because I mean that's weird,though.
Was it like a Well kept secret,to a point where the only hint
that Naruto had was oh yeah, yousee the fourth Hokage's face on

(02:07:09):
the mountain, and I'm like heyhow come that one guy looks kind
of like me you know, like umCoincidence.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Nothing not.
But come that one guy lookskind of like me, you know, like,
um, coincidence, nothing not,but well, oh, and I love the
summoning juice.
So we got a chance to see likea a nice little odd to the
monkey king type thing, got thegiant pole and everything.
I was like that's pretty dope.
You know, it's like even thoughit's a chinese mythology,
japanese people absolutely lovesun wu kong, like he has to be

(02:07:38):
included in some form of fashionand stuff.
Like japanese people, koreanpeople like, uh, filipinos like
absolutely that story journeysto the west is such an iconic
thing across asia so you'll seeit like everywhere.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
So it's pretty dope oh yeah, this was an amazing
chunk of episodes here, to apoint where I dare say that the

(02:08:10):
tuning probably my favorite arcout of part one.
Yes, I would say Sasuke andTree of Art.
I mean that was pretty good,but I'm like and Tree of Art
kind of hits different, thoughit's different that was.

Speaker 2 (02:08:37):
That was one where we started getting fans versus the
writer to be honest with you,mungaka versus the fans, and
there was stuff that wassupposed to happen that wound up
not happening, like real talk.
A bunch of characters weresupposed to die that didn't die,
but it's all because the fanswere too upset.
But realistically they weresupposed to die.

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That didn't die, but it's allbecause the fans were too upset.
Realistically they weresupposed to die.
They were not supposed tocontinue on.

Speaker 1 (02:09:05):
Keep that close to the vest until we get there.
Absolutely, you got anythingyou want to add on to the final
tournament.
I know once again I kind ofwent over a whole bunch of
details, but I'm just trying tocover as much ground as possible
.
Just give the breakdown realquick.

Speaker 2 (02:09:24):
No, I don't have anything else into this.
This one was pretty interesting.
It was nice to get stuffclosing out.
Other than that, not much elsereally.
That's about it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:34):
Gotcha.
And hey, to be perfectly honest, if you, the listener, haven't
checked out Naruto before, andmaybe just tune in to our
episode, check it out.
I mean, to be honest, the bestexperience is just to see the
original material yourself, theoriginal content.

(02:09:56):
But I didn't really wantwatching experience.
Anyway.
I'm telling you like I know wedon't normally do rankings that
much, ratings, that much in thestream reviews, but if I were to
rate season one I would saymaybe like a solid three.

(02:10:21):
I like did a pretty good jobwith some world building, but uh
, it also kind of felt a littleslow, uh, a little sluggish in
the pacing a little bit.
But season two, I'm like it's afairly good pace, like yeah,
like the first half not a wholelot of crazy shit happened, but

(02:10:42):
it saved for a very impactfulsecond half where I'm like I
felt like it was like a slowburn, like a power creep to like
you're gonna see some good shitand then, surprise, twist,
another jinjuriki and I'm like,oh shit, okay, okay and this is
fairly impressive.
So I'm like you know what?
I will give season two a fiveout of five stars.

(02:11:04):
Yeah, that's pretty much all Igot.
The next part we should becovering the Tsunade art, where
you know now that the third isuh dead, they're gonna have to
find his replacement.
I think there's like somefiller before that, but once

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again that's filler, so we'llsave that for part three of
Naruto, extreme Review, andKogayasu.
Once again, thank you for beingon for this part and we'll just
be, but or more when we talkabout Tsunade and her
relationship with Orochimaru.

(02:11:49):
Not that kind of relationship,but, you know, trying to
convince Tsunade to be the fifthOkage and Naruto about to learn
one of his iconic moves.
So you can't wait for that.
Alright, continuing the Narutostream review, we need to talk

(02:12:12):
about the search for Tsunade andthe Sasuke retrieval arc
because, not gonna lie, I don'thave a whole lot to talk about
the search for Tsunade and theSasuke Retrieval Arc because,
not gonna lie, I don't have awhole lot to say about the
Tsunade Arc.
I mean, I do have something tosay, but not a whole lot.
The Sasuke Retrieval Arc,that's the one I really want to
talk about.
And then Season 5, it's a bunchof filler.
I mean not to say it's bad,it's just, you know, filler.

(02:12:33):
You know, if you want to endearyourself to some of the
characters, like so, you know,in this one episode where he was
like laughing like outrageouslyand just sounding so out of
character for him.
So I thought that was kind ofinteresting.
But other than that, just likea bunch of episodes with naruto,
sakura and others, you you know, just getting into like some

(02:12:56):
ninja hijinks.
Sometimes it's funny, sometimesjust you know it is what it is.
But let's go and zone in onthese two main arcs here.
Uh, the search for Tsunade.
Since the third Hokage diedfighting Orochimaru, the village
needs a new Hokage.
They asked Jiraiya.
But he looked at himself andsaid nah, I'm not who you're

(02:13:18):
looking for.
But, uh, I know someone whomight be up for it.
And he pointed towards tsunari,who also was not feeling being
hokage, especially with herbrother dying in the third
shinobi war, I think it was.
And ever since then she figuredoh well, anybody who wants to

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be a hokage must be a fool.
And naruto took that person.
And I don't blame him because,considering the fact that the
fourth hokage gave his life sothat everyone in the village,
and especially Naruto, couldhave one, the third Hokage gave
his life for the village.

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I don't recall what's going onwith that person.
The second, but all I know isthat they were in charge for a
reason, but you know, tsunadewas just feeling some type of
way about ever since her brotherdied, wanting to become the
Hokage.
But uh, things change.
When Orochimaru approached herand said hey, yo, I need your

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help with something.
You help me essentially destroythe Lee village and I will do
what I can to bring your brotherback.
I mean, know, in the world ofShinobi with the resurrection.
Hey, you know, I kind of did itwhen I invaded the Leaf Village

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, where I brought back the firstand the second for a hot minute
.
So, hey, I can do that for you,brother, would you like that?
I don't like that.
And she wasn't going for thatbecause, between endearing
herself to Naruto and she wasn'tgoing for that Because, between
Endearing herself to Naruto,giving him the challenge of
Mastering the Rasengan by theway, he's learning the Rasengan

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at this point she decided, youknow what?
Yeah, it might not be the jobthat I wanted, but it's a job
that I need to do Because thevillage need me to do it.
So she decided yeah, you knowwhat?
Fuck all that.
Fight Orochimaru While Narutofights Kabuto, they win.

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And Tsunade was like hey, yo,you know what I like this kid Um
.
And then, you know, she wentback to the village and became
hokage.
The main thing was is that withsunade, not only because of her
brother, but it like that's.
That's the funny thing.
It's like physically becauseyou know she's known for the

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tickle bitties and uh.
But the thing is Her youthfulAppearance is like a Symbolism
for her being Stuck in the past,or you could look at it that
way.
Or maybe you know she's justlike looking good, nothing wrong
with that.
So that was all I had to sayabout the Tsunade arc.

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Doug, you got anything you wantto add on?

Speaker 4 (02:16:19):
Um, yeah, the Tsunade art was really good, bro.
It was uh.
First of all, when I first seenher, there was something about
her.
I just I don't know what it was, but it was just something
about her that Jiraiya probablywould like.

Speaker 1 (02:16:37):
That's the funny part is because, like me, us getting
into high school, you knowwe're becoming teenagers, you
know puberty's kicking in andwhatnot, and then you see this
woman and I'm just like.
I hope this doesn't awakensomething in me and then,
finally, she was a grandma.

Speaker 4 (02:16:57):
Was like what?
This?

Speaker 2 (02:17:01):
is crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:17:03):
So the the Sasuke retrieval arc is like very heart
wrenching.
So when you find healing in theTsunade search arc, that's
really when it's pivotal,because you know we still
reeling with the death of thethird hokage.
You know it's still fresh on mymind even though, like now
finishing the series, I knowthat the third hokage is a hope,

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but it's still really.
I ain't gonna lie, I was cryingat the funeral, bro, so the
funeral scene had me crying.

Speaker 1 (02:17:33):
So to search for a new it was like that one episode
, rick and Morty where likepoint being is that that one
king was trying to feel on Mortyand Rick was like oh hell, no,
I ain't having any of that, youain't gonna fall into my
grandson and then kills the king.
And then later on they find outabout what the king was up to

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and it was like you know what?
Let's not remember him, let'sremember him as he represented
and not who he is.
And that's pretty much what thething was with the third Okage,
like at the funeral.
Keep in mind, like you said, wedidn't know any of that shit
until way later.
But at that funeral it's likeBecause when you're reviewing

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this shit, like going back intoit, it's like I can't say I'm
torn up.
But he was the Hokage, sothat's fair, but just let it be
what it is like.

Speaker 4 (02:18:36):
Why do you think it was so important to find a new
Hokage that quickly, especiallyat the lower third depth?
Do you think the Leaf Villagejust had so many threats they
couldn't do nothing without one?

Speaker 1 (02:18:48):
It's not that they couldn't do anything without a
Hokage, it's just that withoutone, the Leaf Village
considering that it's one of thebig villages in the shinobi
world it would feel like withouta leader, without a proper
leader, it feels like it'll be aweakness to um the structure of
the village.

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So, in other words, it's kindof like saying they need to
hurry up and find a hokage whocan help us manage and organize
structure, or else guys likeYakoski can pull up on us with
our pants down and we don't knowwhat to do.

Speaker 4 (02:19:25):
Yeah, but they ain't have powerful shinobi.

Speaker 1 (02:19:28):
Yeah, they do.
But it's like sometimes justbecause they're strong doesn't
mean that they can coordinate acounter-attack or a
counter-measure against invadingforces, Like, in other words,
let's take Shikamaru, Like hemay not be strong in the

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muscular sense, but there is areason why they chose him to be
a tuning after the tuning exam,because he uses his head.
So I can see Shikamaru being afuture Hokage Highly unlikely,
but I can see it.

Speaker 4 (02:20:05):
Yes, I understand that.
So I guess, war-wise, I can seethe need if you're feeling
vulnerable, but I guess,similarly to my hero, I gotta
relate everything to my hero.
Having a symbol of peace isnecessary for the citizenship
Right, so that's understandable.

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What about Jariah, though?
When you're looking at Jariah,at that point did you feel like
you respected him for turningdown the position, knowing him?

Speaker 1 (02:20:38):
Honestly, I was confused up until we got to that
point.
You know what point we'retalking about.

Speaker 4 (02:20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:20:48):
And I'm like now I understand it's just not his
style.
Like when you really get toknow Jiraiya, you now understand
well like you know what now Ican see Not to say that you
wouldn't be a good Hokage.
Like you know what now I cansee, not to say that you
wouldn't be a good hokage.
I just understand you wellenough to where, despite you
having the strength you know,having sage mode and all that

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shit, you can do the job.
But it's not your style.
Sometimes you just gotta gowhere the wind carries you.
Like, don't restrict yourself toa place where you know you
don't really need to be.
Like don't restrict yourself toa place where you know you
don't really need to be.
Like, don't let your it's likethat one thing don't let your
loyalty keep you in a situationthat God trying to pull you out

(02:21:32):
of.
But not to say that God tryingto pull Jariah out of that
situation.
It's just that he know himselfwell enough.
To where I know, this ain't itfor me.
Even though I appreciate y'allbelieving that I'm qualified, I
just know myself well enoughthat it's just't it for me.
Even though I appreciate y'allbelieving that I'm qualified, I
just know myself well enoughthat it's just not it for me,
and you're not going tounderstand that until later on.

Speaker 4 (02:21:52):
Yeah, I understand that that's cool but, like
Sonata, first meeting her like Ididn't really like her
immediately.
The thing about the fear ofblood was really like I wasn't
understanding.
But when you get into a senseof finding out about her brother
and everything, it makes yourelate more to the character,
Especially when you used to lookat her.

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He walk around the city, hesaying hey to everybody and then
she gambling.
It's like bro, what I like, hernickname, what I like her
nickname the legendary sucker.
Crazy, ain't it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:30):
I'm like, hey, man, that can go at least two ways
though.

Speaker 4 (02:22:35):
I'm trying to tell you, jariah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:22:48):
But no, I can also see why tsunade like, see, the
funny thing is tsunade eventhough she had her hang-ups
about being hokage.
She had her reasons.
It's like when you, when youmeet her, like you said, it's
almost like this is a woman thatloses all her parlays and I'm
sitting there like I don't knowif I want a leader who has a

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gambling problem at the helm,like I just don't know about
that.
But then again, I don't thinkshe gambled that much ever since
she became Hokage.
In fact, I believe becomingHokage gave her what she kind of
needed was a sense ofresponsibility, because the
thing was just like how she wasrunning from her past and all

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this other shit.
It seemed like she was justkind of running away from
responsibility.
Away from responsibility, andit took naruto being determined
to have her come to the villageso that way the village can
stand on ten toes, you know,from a structural point of view.
And it's like saying, if he'sfailing to persuade her to take

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the job, then how can he look athimself and say if he's
qualified to become Okage?
See, the whole thing with thatis that, yeah, naruto wants to
become Okage, but in subtle ways, we're shown how Naruto has not
only the strength but thecharisma to persuade others to

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where.
Hey, you know what you got agood point.

Speaker 4 (02:24:26):
Yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (02:24:28):
Yeah, so maybe.

Speaker 4 (02:24:34):
What about the climax of the whole arc, my favorite
bro, the three-way deadlock thatwas.
Oh yeah, that was superb arc,my favorite bro, the three-way
deadlock.

Speaker 1 (02:24:46):
That was, oh yeah, like bro, like it's kind of how
I felt about harry potter.
Uh, order the phoenix.
When domidor and voldemort fall, I'm like damn I know you're
not gonna see shit like thatever again.

Speaker 4 (02:25:03):
What a great analogy.

Speaker 1 (02:25:05):
I mean, we did see that more in Naruto as far as
summonings, but see the threeSane go up against each other.
You will never see that again,Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 (02:25:15):
It was the first glimpse into the Sane's true
power.
To be honest, it set a bar forall the rest of the fights in
the future.
You gotta at least make it tothis pivotal point.

Speaker 1 (02:25:29):
Yeah, we got Susanos and whatnot later on, but it's
barely being used, unlesssomeone like Naruto is using
summons.
Or maybe Sakura, because I knowshe summons the slugs like
Naida does, but barely used.
It's more about the flash yoursoccer, because I know she
summons the slugs like Uniteddoes, but like barely used, like
it's more about the flashierjutsus than anything but, yeah,

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like it was kind of crazy atfirst where, like you see these
different summons and like, ohyeah, it's about to get real
crazy man yeah, I mean evenOrochimaru trying to fight with
no hands.

Speaker 4 (02:26:01):
All he cared about is his hands.
Yeah, I mean even Orochimarutrying to fight with no hands
yeah, all he cared about is hishands, or maybe all he cared
about was calculating moves.

Speaker 1 (02:26:09):
Like you know, he always got a three way answer
for everything but we also gottakeep in mind that with the
throw of Kage he sealed away hisjutsu and I like the line that
Orochimaru gave on the third,where he was, like you, the
criminal man, you the Orochimarualways had some comeback, bro

(02:26:31):
yo and then.

Speaker 4 (02:26:32):
Naruto roll in the fight, like saving Tsunade.
My boy Naruto gonna provehimself at every given time.
I mean the name of the showain't Naruto, for no reason,
right.
And then Tsunade, my boy Naruto, gonna prove himself at every
given time.
I mean the name of the showain't Naruto for no reason,
right.

Speaker 1 (02:26:46):
And then Tsunade wrote I like that one scene
where he caught that kunai inthe middle of his hand.
Just a trap, nah, nah, youain't going nowhere.
Watch this.

Speaker 4 (02:27:00):
Tsunade showed a real leadership and a real
Hokage-ship, if you will Like.
Just standing on her toecovered in blood, I was like
dang, I can't believe.
Ain't she scared of blood bro?

Speaker 1 (02:27:14):
That's kind of crazy, considering that she's a
medical ninja.

Speaker 4 (02:27:18):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (02:27:19):
No, I mean I'm saying I mean, hey, sometimes bravery
Is just a will to face yourfears.

Speaker 4 (02:27:29):
Yes, a fact, she's iconic.
She reclaimed her role, but umoh?

Speaker 1 (02:27:39):
Did we talk?
Did you like the baby mamaConnoisseur?
Let me ask you this thegreatest Granny in history,
tsunade Versus the greatestgranny in modern times, seiko

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Ayase From Dandanon, who you gotyour money on?

Speaker 4 (02:28:06):
first of all the latter.
Let me just tell you he's thegrandma of all grandmas.
I just want you to know he isdefinitely a, a gilf yeah,
that's the word I'm looking for,gilf.
First of all, I would like tohave both of them, but Tsunade
can get the hell out Of him.
I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 1 (02:28:27):
I mean, yeah, like she had to use chakra To keep
herself In the words of DennisReynolds Enhanced herself, like
she gotta keep that up.
Meanwhile, seiko, like what'syour secret Girl?
Like how you looking?
And, like I said in the review,it doesn't help when she's got

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these very provocative poses andI'm sitting there like, oh, you
just asking.

Speaker 4 (02:28:56):
Yes, those are very provocative poses, and if they
just had that throughout thewhole season.

Speaker 1 (02:29:03):
chef's kiss oh yeah that'd be perfect and best part
is, all you gotta do with Seikois just butter her up and I'm
like oh you so sweet.
Yeah, you can stay here as longas you want.

Speaker 4 (02:29:15):
I like that try being an animator.
I know the animators is likebro.
No, I have to work on thesetitties today.
Yeah, yeah, this gonna kill him.
This gonna kill him.

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
I don't even blame Konohamaru in that one episode
where he was like just in cloud,non-motorboating, those titties
yeah, you know, konohamaru thehonorable grandson is gonna step
.

Speaker 4 (02:29:44):
Non-motorboating those titties.
Yeah, you know the honorablegrandson's gonna step.
I don't see why they call himthe honorable grandson.
And have my boy Naruto overhere drinking spoiled milk.
He ain't do nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:30:00):
Yeah, it's like and it's crazy how, if you how you
let that boy grow up yeah, it'slike, and it's crazy how, if you
, how you let that boy grow upNot even knowing who his parents
is.
Like nobody told him.
Hey, yo, you do know that yourfather we don't remember, we
don't like that Because he gotthat fucking.

Speaker 4 (02:30:19):
Yeah, it's a lot of parallels to that world part of
too.
Like bro, you know your mom anddad is.

Speaker 1 (02:30:28):
James and Lily like bro nah, they died in a car crap
.
They weren't anything special.
Shut your ass up and get up inthat room and pretend you don't
exist like normal.
I'll be in my room making nosound and pretending I don't
exist like normal I'll be in myroom making no sound and
pretending I don't exist, Likebro what?

Speaker 4 (02:30:50):
And my boy Naruto wanted people to know he existed
.
My boy finna, go spray paintthe city.
Right, it's a lot of differentparallels when you consider
other stuff.
Yeah, naruto is iconic bro sucha good.

Speaker 1 (02:31:06):
You know how long I've been waiting for this.
I'm about to make a name formyself I just watched that.

Speaker 4 (02:31:13):
Last night too.
I watched it for the first timehow you like it oh man, it was
amazing.
Oh, when my boy showed up, ohman, I was not expecting that.
Yeah, I was like whoa hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:31:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:31:32):
That's why they didn't come out with the movie.

Speaker 1 (02:31:36):
I'm so glad Channing Tatum's coming back for Game of
Life Especially, even though Ithink it's either a deleted
scene or something like that.
But there was a deleted scenewhere it shows that there's a
portal opening and Game Out'slike hey, what's going on here,
that's what's up, so you'regonna see him again.
You're definitely gonna see himagain.

(02:31:57):
Oh, he's gonna be in Doomsday.
I think Either Doomsday ordefinitely Secret Wars gonna be
in doomsday.
I think either doomsday ordefinitely secret wars, so you
won't see him again.
Oh, that's gonna be dope I Istill oh raps to a page when he
did hood x-men, I'm like I stilldon't like how bro did on
gaming dirty I like, damn allright.

(02:32:18):
I mean I kind of get it on withmcneedle being able to touch
him and whatnot, but like man, Idon't want to take that line
down.
Like I mean he kind of handledit kind of more mature, but like
I would have been crashing outof it with McNeil talking about
hey man, that's my business,that's my ball Like what the you
do.

Speaker 4 (02:32:37):
Hey man.

Speaker 1 (02:32:43):
Bro, I don't know about saying that myself, not
seriously, but it was funny theway they that's like gonna be a
new thing from now on.
Oh, that's my ball.
Oh yeah, what the fuck yougonna do about?

Speaker 2 (02:32:53):
it.

Speaker 1 (02:32:53):
Anyways, let's move on.
Such a tsunami arc Prettydecent, like you said.
Tuck the whole three prongfight, great excellent but my
favorite part about it all wasthat you understand where sunai
is coming from, like and that'sthe crazy part too is like I
kind of hate it when a team likeyou introduce to a character.

(02:33:15):
You understand them, like youget their backstory like right
from the get-go, but after thatit's like they're still a
likable character, but theydon't really do.
I don't like that yeah thatreminds me of a character that
we're going to be talking aboutanyways, but uh, let's go ahead

(02:33:38):
and get into the sasukeretrieval art and but wait
before we get into it.

Speaker 4 (02:33:42):
I just wanted to say just one thing that was
significant to me Go ahead thepassing of the first Hokage
necklace.

Speaker 1 (02:33:49):
Right, yes.

Speaker 4 (02:33:51):
Bro, especially with that being her grandfather, I
was like dang, that's just sucha good callback.

Speaker 1 (02:33:57):
Hell, yeah, like and that's funny too like there's
like um a weird thing going onwhen like, in a way, the Senju
clan and the Uzumaki clan arelike In that same Bubble in a
way.
I'll do my research when we dothis, but yeah, like.

Speaker 4 (02:34:17):
Y'all twins, nah, we cousins.

Speaker 1 (02:34:22):
But nah, in a way I can see Tsunade being like a
Like a Honorary Grandmother toNaruto and Konohamaru, because
you know they're likepractically Bros anyway.

Speaker 4 (02:34:37):
So Yep, and she raised them anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:34:41):
Yeah, so I can see her being the grandmother to
those two knuckleheads.
So, yeah, I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (02:34:55):
You ready for.
That's all I had on that one.

Speaker 1 (02:35:01):
Gotcha Alright, so let's get retrie R For real this
time.
Let me say, oh, this is so good,this arc.
Was it Like this arc?
We saw five boys become men inthis arc.

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Because, first of all, narutovs Sasuke, part one, where, okay
, sasuke's in the hospital, he'srecuperating from the whole
fight with Gaara and keepingwell, no, not Gaara.
It was the whole thing withItachi, because there was a
whole thing with I think wetalked about it in part two.

(02:35:42):
If not, there was this wholething with Itachi because there
was a whole thing with because Ithink we talked about it in
part two.
If not, there was this wholething where Jiraiya and Naruto
was out and about.
They were like at this hotel,like place, and Naruto heard a
knock at the door.
I'm like, hey, yo, I got it.
I'm like who is it?
And he opened the door and sawthose eyes.
I'm like, yeah, I would haveslowly closed the door too if I

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was down, like, uh, if I hadparents, they would told me not
to talk to strangers.
And then if I was itachi, if Isaw that door slowly closing, I
was like just kind of likestopping from closing, like
slowly open it again.
I was like just kind of likeStopping from closing, like
slowly opening again.
I was like Naruto Zimaki, I'mlike who wants to know?

(02:36:29):
I'm like, yeah, though, comewith us, please.
Like, please, don't resist.
Like just be cool and come withus.
I'm like, oh, I don't Know, no,no, no, okay, for real, for
real.
Sasuke Getting embarrassed byTachi, you know like Presley, oh
yeah, you not strong, you don'thave enough hate in your spirit

(02:36:52):
.
Boy, like, get back to me, weget stronger, sasuke.
But, uh, fast forward, sasukeRecuperating.
And he decided hey yo, naruto,you know what, sasuke
recuperating.
And he decided hey yo, naruto,you know what?
I've been wanting to fight youfor a while Now, so let's go
ahead and Handle that on thehospital rooftop Right.
So they did their fight.

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And then Naruto Doing hisRasengan, sasuke doing His
Chidori and Kikashi Came in atthe right time to break them up,
and Sasuke was kind of Feelinghimself with that Chidori.
And Kakashi came in at theright time to break them up and
Sasuke was kind of feelinghimself with that Chidori like
hey yo, look at how much damageI did.
I'm like, no, I could never dothat.
See, look at that little denthe put into that water tower.
And then Kakashi was like uh,there's something you need to

(02:37:38):
see, sasuke went on the otherside of that tower and I went oh
hell, no, he.
You need to see, I was gettingon the other side of that tower.
Oh hell, no, he did that.
That could have been me, ohheavens, no.
Oh wait, wait, wait.
Is Naruto stronger than me?
Oh no, no, no, no, I'm fuckingup, I'm fucking up.
Let me hit up Orochimaru,because he did say that he had

(02:38:01):
an offer to make me stronger onthe table.
I'm going to hit him up.
I ain't going to have Naruto,of all people, showing me up.
Hell, nah, let me hit him up.
Sound 4 being the escort hey yo, we're here to pick you up.
You want to see your peoplebefore you want to do?

(02:38:24):
And I'm like, no, I don'treally got people, so I don't
know.
Now, then sakura's showing uptrying to confess her love and
whatnot.
You know, that's just.
I like nah bitch, I need to do.
Yeah, I like nah bitch, I needto do me.
I gotta go take this back.

Speaker 4 (02:38:45):
I'm like, yeah, girl, I'll raise you up later, dang.
But what you think it was justabout, well I don't know, it
wasn't just solely power, eventhough he wanted power, but he
only wanted the power for thelure of vengeance.
But really, though, I think hewould have just like he wouldn't
really cared about thevengeance as much because, you

(02:39:07):
know, talk no jutsu, but feelingbehind Naruto, yeah, I'm like,
bro, ain't no way.

Speaker 1 (02:39:13):
Yeah, it wasn't even about power, it was about pride,
because if he couldn't beatNaruto then he definitely wasn't
going to be good enough to beatItachi.
So he was like, oh hell, no, Ineed to like find some cheat
codes to like close the gap.
You know, kind of like withVegeta choosing to be controlled
by Majin Buu, like even thoughhe wasn't exactly in complete

(02:39:34):
control, like Babidi wasn'tcompletely in control of Vegeta,
but it was more like I'mallowing you to boss me around
for the power boost.

Speaker 4 (02:39:45):
Yeah.
Do you think it was a necessaryfor his character development
or was it like a betrayal?

Speaker 1 (02:39:52):
It feels like I won't say not, it's not necessity,
but it's also not a betrayal.
I feel like it's on brand forSasukeuke not to say like he is
the type of person who's like amegalomaniac, but it's more like
he's the type of dude who he'sso locked in on a revenge scheme

(02:40:16):
that he doesn't even have thefull information on.
By the way, when we get deepinto shifu, you will understand
why.
He was just so locked in onvengeance that at first he
thought he was doing pretty good, like okay, well, I'm
progressing fairly well.
It's not like I'm going againstany heavy hitters that I can't

(02:40:37):
handle.
But then he started fightingdudes like rock Lee and others
to a point where oh hell, no,I'm slipping now, and so it's
like it's not even about power,it's about pride, to where I'm
not strong enough to beat theseguys.
I'm definitely not strongenough to beat Itaki.
So, like I said, I need to finda cheat code or something to

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close the gap.

Speaker 4 (02:41:01):
OK, ok.
And then you know what happenedafter that.
Yeah, I got a comment and aquestion.
Okay, so Shikamaru, him and hisleadership abilities just
getting promoted.
Why do you think he was chosen?
And then, caveat to that, yougot Naruto, shikamaru, choji,

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hiba Nejiji and my boy rock,motherfucking lee.
Tell me about the strengths andweaknesses of the team, bro
well with rock lee.

Speaker 1 (02:41:33):
He wasn't chosen at first, but you know, you made
that surprise, that's my boy,that's my boy yeah, but yeah, I
did love that he showed up, butall right with his leadership.
Why he was chosen?
Mainly because, like I saidearlier, the where the reason

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why he was told to be a shootingin the first place is the fact
that, with shikamaru Having anIQ of 200.
He should have enoughIntelligence, foresight and what
not To think 5, 6, 7 stepsahead.
You know, like Shogi when heplayed Shogi with Asuma Sensei,
to where you need to be able tothink 5 to 10 steps ahead of

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your opponent, and Shikamaru wasthe type of guy To do that.
So he would also be the type ofguy who would have like
contingency and shit, like kindof like on some Batman shit.
So it would make sense forShikamaru To be the most
calculating of them all.
Even though he don't look it,he will probably Figure
something out, even if it's onthe fly.

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And it's kind of apparent inthe fight between him and kaguya
, where he pretty much had touse more inventive ways to use
his shadows, and I love hisdevelopment in that shadow
possessions usage, where it getsmore and more interesting as it
go along.
So, yeah, I think shigemarubeing chosen to be leader makes

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sense because of how he's ableto plan ahead, but also the type
that would have plan a, b, cand whatnot, kind of like dr
strange, you know, like multiplepossibilities can go out.
So let's just hope for the bestnow for the team up naruto, him

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with his clones, he canessentially cover the most
ground.
Kiba with his sense of smell,with akamaru oh yeah, akamaru.
Uh, they can track sasuke byscent in case sight or whatnot
is not going to be very strong,so they can at least track him

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down during scent.
Neji can be the eyes, as far aslike, with his Byaku gun and
whatnot.
Shino same thing with Narutowith the bugs can cover a lot of
ground with the bugs.
And Shigemaru was the fifth one.
So I already explained him.
Yeah, I think it was, becausethink of the way he lined them

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up when he was explaining hiswhole plan to where, essentially
, oh yeah, there's Choji, choji,right, honestly, I would say
with Choji, even though I likehis fight with Jirobo, I'm not
100% sure.
Honestly, I would say withChoji, even though I like his
fight with Jirobo, I'm not 100%sure why he's their other man.
You know, he's Choji's boy, Imean, he's Shigemaru's friend

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and teammate and whatnot.
But he was a good addition.
I'm not going to care.

Speaker 4 (02:44:39):
I think it was character development more so he
needed to evolve into a bettercharacter Right and, by the way,
I'm not going to care I thinkit was character development
more so, like he needed toevolve into a better character,
right.

Speaker 1 (02:44:46):
And, by the way, I'm glad that you said that, because
I like how with Choji you wouldthink he's like this fat little
caterpillar, right, but then hehad the deadest cocoon, or his
fat, so to speak, and then hebecame this beautiful butterfly
that gave Jorobo the fade and Ifucking loved it.
Because I'm like, once again,you will never see that again

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and I hated that.
At least give me like one moregood time in Shippuden.
If you gave me that one moregood time in Shippuden, I
wouldn't have said shit.
But I'm like oh, hold on, jojo.
What was that one form you didwhen you during the Sasuke
Retriever?
What happened to that form?
I don't know.

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I like Neji's fight with Kanaand Ukon felt more like symbolic
, if anything, because Sakanaand Ukon had to split apart to
become more effective.
Meanwhile Kiba and Akamaru cametogether to be stronger.

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I like the parallels in thatone Shikamaru and Kaguya.
Once again it was just mainlyabout Shikamaru and Kaguya.
Once again, it was just mainlyabout Shikamaru using his shadow
Possession juice in differentways.
But those four fights get intheir own right.
But then we get to See thesecret boy Of the sound.

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Four, or should I say the soundfive Kimimaro and I was kind of
interested in his ability tomanipulate his bones to a point
where he can.
He fucking pulled his ownbackbone out as a sword and I
was like, oh man that man's amenace yeah, I was kind of all

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for all those bones protrudingfrom his body and all that shit
and Naruto was kind of all forall those bones protruding from
his body and all that shit andNaruto was kind of having
trouble up until that boy, rockLee, comes in for the save with
the drunken fist style.
And I honestly didn't expect adrunken fist style, honestly,
like I'm give me a minute.

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I have to take my medicine yeah,like, okay to be fair, give me
a minute, I have to take mymedicine.
Yeah, like okay to be fair,using the eight gates is going
to be kind of risky ever sincethe whole tuning exam.
So I wouldn't blame him if he'slike okay, let's calm down,
let's not resort to that thissoon.
But Drunken Fist wasinteresting.

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Like, but Drunken Fist wasinteresting.
He was like dodging, weavingand all that shit without even
really trying that much Likestaggering.

Speaker 4 (02:47:34):
He was fighting like Jackie.

Speaker 1 (02:47:36):
Chan, hell, yeah.
And then something after thathappened because keep in mind
like it doesn't last very longto where rock lee has the
advantage.
But once again somethingunexpected happened.
Gara and the sand siblingsmakes the save rock lee.

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And I was like bro, I did notexpect gar and broccoli working
together that soon in the wholeseries.
Like you would think it'd bekind of cool if it was like
later down the line.
You know gara being friendswith naruto now, but it's almost
like they had to make thatconnection immediately to where,
like hey, uh, no hard feelingsabout what happened at tuning

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exams, right, I'm like hey man,you know you saved my life, so
fuck it even I guess.
Um, and also you know narutoand gar is like hey man, like I
appreciate what you said back inthe tuning exam.
You know I'm trying to getright with god and all that shit
.
I'm like good for you.

Speaker 4 (02:48:42):
Gar Gar was tripping.
I'm like friend.
What the hell is a?
Never heard this word before.

Speaker 1 (02:48:52):
I still remember how, like Naruto's talk with Gar was
like the first I mean not thevery first, but like the first
of many times where we're like,oh lord, uh, you shouldn't have
told naruto all that, becausehe's about to give you the most

(02:49:13):
epic talking to you ever heardof in your life where it's like
we're not that different.
You and I I was like, oh lord,here you go.
They're gonna pan to that swingBro the fact that girl was on a
fucking swing during his ownchildhood, where I was like bro
the parallel.

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I was that kid sitting on thatswing too.
I was that kid that people wasafraid of too.
I was that kid that everybodywanted to kill, just like you,
but you know what I didn't letthat people was afraid of too.
I was that kid that everybodywanted to kill, just like you,
but you know what?
I didn't let that get me down.
That's the difference betweenyou and me, though, but you can
change it around.
You just chill out, be cool and, you know, start all over.

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You know, because you know yougot your siblings and whatnot.
Hey, man, like you can't belike acting, like you can take
on the whole world on your own.
Like you got people that wantto be in your corner, you just
gotta let them be in your corner.

Speaker 4 (02:50:11):
you know what I'm saying, so you know chill out
and my boy, my boy shikamaru,bro, his genius in the tactical
battle, bro, yeah, the only thehighlight for me was the end.
My boy, the lit the cigarettefor my boy.
He was like, yeah, I'm smokingon pat tonight back it up, back

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it up.
That's way later during thehida and kakuzu arc what that's
later yeah, that's way later bro, because all the, really all
the fights feel like an arc, bro, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (02:50:46):
Yeah, I mean, we're gonna get there.

Speaker 4 (02:50:48):
It's not that far away, but like that's like
halfway through Were they allback-to-back or like mixed up in
between each other.

Speaker 1 (02:50:58):
Not exactly.
More like, like I said withSeason 5, it was like a whole
bunch of fillers.
So I would say after theSockley retrieval arc it was
more like a dead air space atthat point, up until we get to
Shippuden, and then it's like,okay, we need to go save Gar
from being kidnapped fromNikoski, and then it starts back

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to being like back-to-backbullshit going on.
So there's like some spaces inbetween for sure okay, I ain't
got my remember ball.
That's what it is no see, that'swhy we're doing this review to
where, like, we're gonna getthere when we get there.
But uh, yeah, that fight withkimmy morrow great, loved it.

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But let's get to the fight thatwe really want to talk about
naruto versus sasuke, part two,the one fight that inspired so
many lincoln park amvs, manyLinkin Park AMVs, with the

(02:52:04):
fucking Vermillion Rasenganversus the Black T-Dory.

Speaker 4 (02:52:10):
Yup Valley of the End , bro Bruh, the setup, the area,
the callbacks, everything Bruh,this was everything.

Speaker 1 (02:52:19):
Speaking of callbacks , I'm glad you said that.
Speaking of callbacks, let's goback into Kakashi's story, to
where you know the whole storywith him, obito Rin and all that
.
We know that story.
We're going to talk about it alittle bit more, anyways, in
later parts.
But, point being, we understandthat when Kakashi developed the

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lightning blade, he developedit to be able to protect his
comrades.
But he taught Sasuke how to uselightning blade, which Sasuke
called a chidori, because youknow the birds and all that.
The bird sound going off.
But the irony is that Sasuke isusing a technique that was born

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to protect comrades against acomrade.
Ironic, isn't it?
Uh, outside of that, you knowthere was hands and yeah, like
that's what I love about naruto,like with the big three, like,

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okay, I would say, when it comesto power scaling, I'm gonna be
honest with you, bleach got itbecause they're like universal
level with the whole dimensionwarping and whatnot.
I'm gonna let bleach have that.
One piece has heart too andwhatnot.
Like, I would say, as far aslike story building, it is king

(02:53:50):
of story building with naruto.
Yeah, it has story building,whatnot, but I would say out of
the three, it has the most heart.
It has so much emotional weightto it to where, like you
connecting all these dots andyou're like my emotions, god
damn, because it's like theseechoes to the past where you see

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folks like the first hokageversus madara, you have obito
versus kakashi, naruto versusskasuke, then later we're gonna
have burrito versus kawaki, andit just feel like these echoes
of the same shit going on andthe way all this shit connects
and whatnot, in a way that'sbeautiful, like especially when

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we get to the fourth shinobi war, which is way later, shippuden,
where it seemed like bro, likeso much sense just clicked at
that point, to where it justfeels like you understand the
characters better, but also itjust feels like everything

(02:54:57):
happened for a reason and itjust like history is going to
constantly repeat itself unlesssomebody's brave enough to break
the cycle, like someone likenaruto, so to speak.
To where, hey yo, we need to cutthis shit out because we can't
have this anymore.
To where we having innocentpeople die, people being
betrayed and all the other shitgoing on and you got problematic

(02:55:21):
people being left unchecked.
Looking at you.

Speaker 4 (02:55:28):
Donzo Don't get me started on Donzo, bro.
God, he's such a booty.
He ain't even an ass, he's justa booty.
I'm't even ass, he just a booty.

Speaker 1 (02:55:45):
I'm like people say oh, I like how, even though he
was like a temporary fifthHokage.

Speaker 4 (02:55:55):
No, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (02:55:56):
No, no, no, that's the thing.
It was like he was like interim, like he was like he wasn't
named Hokage, but he was like hewasn't named hokage, but he was
like he was a substituteteacher that nobody respected
right and in that regard I stillthink it's funny how like he
never got his face up on thatmountain.
so I'm like, hey, man, like hewasn't much of a if he called

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himself hokage, he wasn't muchof one anyways, he was like man.
He wasn't even in the positionlong enough for it to matter.
So what does it matter?
It took a while for Tsunade'sface to get on the mountain, but

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at least he earned it.

Speaker 4 (02:56:44):
Yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (02:56:48):
Yeah, naruto versus Sasuke, it was pretty good and,
yeah, sasuke could have killedNaruto at the end, but he was
like, ah, ah, I'm just gonna gosee.
I don't even see all I did andthe two-torn headband.

Speaker 4 (02:57:06):
Nah, nah, I'm just gonna go see him.
I don't even see him.

Speaker 1 (02:57:09):
And the two-torn head man bro.
Yeah and yeah, he got likescratched off his uh the leaf.
So just to signify that he's uhRogue Ninja now, man listen.
And it's wild, wild, like Iwould say.
The next time they fight at thevalley of the end I would say
that was definitely betterthematically.

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But the first time around thatstarted the whole bullshit with
Shippuden to where it no longerbecame about ninjas just Started
the whole Bullshit with she putinto air.
It no longer became aboutNinjas just doing missions and
what not.
It became about how A boy whohas a dream To become a

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Respectful leader of his village, how can he save a whole
village?

Speaker 4 (02:58:03):
If he can't even save his own friend.
That's a fact.
If I can't save one little girl, how can I call myself a hero?

Speaker 1 (02:58:11):
there you go.
I mean, I want to say don't,don't run around being a captain
, save all.
In real life, though, likesometimes people don't want to
be saving all that shit.
But that's beside the point.
It's like I believed in whatnaruto was trying to do to where
, like, hey man, I can't evencall myself a good hokage if I
just let my comrade just walkaway, especially when we could

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have talked to him.
Like hey bro, like weunderstand that you're trying to
get your revenge, because, keepin mind, like in this world,
killing isn't even a crime, likeI mean, unless you're killing
somebody that's within your ownvillage, like a leaf ninja
killing another leaf ninja okay,we can't have that.

(02:58:58):
But if you out in the wildkilling other people, hey man,
that's none of my business it'sa serious kind feeling, wet
dream oh hey, that ain't gotnothing to do with us, like they
ain't one of ours, so why do?

Speaker 2 (02:59:10):
we care.

Speaker 1 (02:59:11):
That's like if, uh, you like say, for instance,
you're part of a gang and I, notthat, but like bloods versus
crisps, like if you're like oneor the other and you kill one of
your own, okay you're a problem, you kill the other side.
I was like, hey man, justanother Tuesday, good for you.
You want a cookie?

Speaker 4 (02:59:31):
Hey, sometimes you gotta kill somebody.
Grove Street, all greens aroundhere, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:59:40):
But uh, what else about this fight?
Nah, here cuz, yeah.
But uh, what else about thisfight, bro?
Nah, I pretty much said what Isaid about Sasuke and Naruto,
where it's like you have thesetwo guys, where I'm like Naruto
wants to keep his friend around.
So that way, like you know, wejust grow together.

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You know, like you're like abrother to me, bro, like I don't
have much of a family, but Iconsider you family, so family,
you know, ohanami family.
We're going to talk about itlater bro.

Speaker 4 (03:00:17):
Shout out to my boy, neji too.

Speaker 1 (03:00:19):
Oh yes, neji, Mm, mm, ah, neji.
Oh yes, you know, that's myproblem Watching Shippuden,
where I'm like God damn, so muchshit happens between Part 1 and
part 2 to where it's like, onceyou go back to part 1, you
can't look at some of thesecharacters the same way anymore.

(03:00:41):
It's like Looking at Anko, you,these characters, the same way
anymore.
That's like looking at anko youremember anko, right where it's
like she was.
Yeah, she was like a baddiewhen she was like first
introduced and I, hey, you know,like I'm not trying to pass
shame, but like I'm looking atanko now and anko in the past,
I'm feeling like what happened?
mhm yeah, like I said, like withsome of these characters, after

(03:01:08):
you watch part 2 or maybeBoruto and you rewind back into
part 1, you're just like god,like I can't look at you the
same way I did the first timebecause I didn't know you at
first, but now that I know youbetter, seeing you in this light
again, it's like I can't evenhold you.

(03:01:31):
Well, hold on, it reallydepends.
Like, sometimes it's like youknow what I'm going to blame you
for you being the way you are,and sometimes I'm sitting there
like what the fuck happened toyou?
Like you used to be badass inthe part one and now you're just
like barely even involved.
Like 1010, for instance, where,like you're thinking, a girl

(03:01:52):
that specializes in ninja toolsokay, that makes sense for a
ninja world, right.
But if everybody's using allthese flashy juicies and whatnot
, then Ten somehow became soirrelevant to a show that was
about ninjas and she's a girlwith ninja tools.
It would have made sense forher to be utilized more, but nah

(03:02:16):
, nah, ever since her you evencall it a fight if it's
one-sided.
Ever since she got folded byTamari Irrelevant, and I just
kind of hate for that to happento characters when, like you got
a character that seems cool,but then somehow you just write

(03:02:40):
them off the show.

Speaker 4 (03:02:42):
Tamari, the hitter with the boots on the ground
where them fans at like justknock the desperation into her
and then knock the growth out ofher like dang the way she
landed on the fan, though.

Speaker 1 (03:02:59):
Oh my god damn.
Like it was almost liketomorrow was oral farming and
Shigemaru was up in that dance.
Like that's my future baby mamaright there yeah, that's crazy
bro bro, that's crazy.
Now I think about it to where,even though they didn't like

(03:03:23):
have a formal introductionbeforehand, but it's crazy how
Shikamaru and Tamari couldprobably share the same kind of
story that Goku would have withChi-Chi, where, like, yeah,
remember, remember the firsttime we met we were fighting
each other and I was kickingyour ass yeah, that makes sense
were fighting each other and Iwas kicking your ass, yeah.

(03:03:45):
That makes sense.
No, like Sigmar, he folded, buthey, he was the only one that
got promoted for tuning them, sodid he really lose?

Speaker 4 (03:03:58):
Nah, yeah, he really won.
Yeah, you know what I mean youdon't have to win, you just had
to win.
It's mean you don't have to win, you just have to win.

Speaker 1 (03:04:04):
It's like you don't have to win in the
straightforward way.
It's more like sometimesvictories come in unexpected
ways.
It's like silver linings andshit.
I'm like hey.

Speaker 3 (03:04:17):
I barely had to do shit.

Speaker 1 (03:04:18):
I still got promoted.

Speaker 4 (03:04:19):
But the same thing happened to Deku.
Like you know, he ain't gettingno points, but I mean he won.

Speaker 1 (03:04:27):
Man, yeah, oh man, I can't wait to talk about it.
I don't think about it.
But we're going to wait untilthe final season is close to
being done.
Then we'll prepare to talkabout my Hero Academia.
But I'm thinking about thatspring sports festival where
that first round where, like,okay, they either had to like

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fight the robot or save thepeople, and my boy, deku, was
like, hey, yo, let me just goahead and take out this robot,
even though that probably notgoing to warrant any points.
But oh, surprise, surprise,that gave him like a whole lot
of points which made him a primetarget for the next part.
Yep, but no, the point being isthat sometimes getting a dub,

(03:05:17):
you might get dubs in a way youdon't expect.
So sometimes you gotta justroll with it, kind of like how a
happy accident would happenwhen you're doing something, you
know like You're throwingsomething away and you probably

(03:05:37):
didn't expect it to go in thebasket, but it kind of bounced
off the trash can to a pointwhere it kind of bounced off the
rim just a little bit until itactually goes in.
I was like, hey, I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (03:05:49):
Yeah, it was fat A win's a win.

Speaker 1 (03:05:52):
Yeah, a win's a win.
He not only got promoted, buthe found his future wife.
I was all like I ain't even madat you, seymour, you winning,
bro, but was there anything elseabout Naruto versus Sasuke that
you want to talk about?

Speaker 4 (03:06:11):
No, I'm good with it.
It was just pivotal seeing thegrowing dynamics between them,
naruto staying in the light andSasuke just sinking more into
the darkness.
It's really a good setup forthe next season.
And then it really leaves youwith a question mark over it,
like what's up with Team 7?

Speaker 1 (03:06:30):
And that's the thing, just like with Gaara.
Naruto could become a littlemonster, just like Gaara.
But nah, I mean, yeah, he was alittle troublemaker, but he
wasn't going to crash out on thewhole village unless it got to
a point where he was reallypushed to his limits.
But if anything, the villagersleft him alone for the most part

(03:06:52):
Like someone would pick on him,but for the most part they just
left him alone.
Gar had actual hits out on him,so I can understand why Gar
would be like tweaking a littlebit.
So you know, I would be too.
If someone's out to get me, I'mlike hey, man, like I hate to

(03:07:15):
quote Aubrey.
but it's like that one line hesaid in that one song he did
with Nicki Minaj, moment forLife, where he was like Sorry if
I'm way less friendly, I gotniggas trying to end me.

Speaker 3 (03:07:28):
That kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (03:07:30):
I kind of understand where I'm like.
I don't really feel veryfriendly anymore when it seems
like I don't know who's out toget me.
It could be my own people,low-key, ready to step in the
back.

Speaker 4 (03:07:43):
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 (03:07:46):
But Naruto never had that.
So he I mean he eventually madefriends, but it took a while,
but he made friends.
So Naruto could have been amonster just like Gaara, and
Naruto could have turned outkind of like Sasuke to where all
Naruto needed was that oneshady figure to be like hey, yo
you, I bet you get real tired ofthem disrespecting you and all

(03:08:10):
that Like, yeah, man, I'm justtrying to do the best I can.
Yeah, man, I hear you, bro,like hey, check this out, come
over to my crib and I'll hookyou up with some power and
you're going to get that respectthat you deserve.

Speaker 4 (03:08:23):

Speaker 1 (03:08:25):
He could have been just like Sasuke, going off to
see Orochimaru just to getpeople to like, either recognize
him for who he is.
But no, naruto didn't go thatfar, he refused to let the
darkness take hold of him andthat is very commendable, with

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Sasuke, once again, notnecessary.
But I don't think it's also abetrayal, because Sasuke's
Standards wasn't really Definedlike we never really knew how
far he would Really go for power, I mean, you know, not powerful

(03:09:08):
for vengeance, but yeah, hewants to seek vengeance on
itachi for slaying the uchihaclan, but we never had a clear
idea of how far he's willing togo to achieve.
That.
Like Sasuke's been like a stoicmystery up until, yeah, I want

(03:09:32):
to say right up until the SasukeRetrieval Arts, where, like, he
was kind of that cool guy thatno one can really read, can
really read.
Up until the Sasuke retrievalarts, where it becomes more
understandable that he was.
So he had tunnel vision OnItachi To a point where Him

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catching elves From differentpeople, including Naruto, and
not in a sense where, likeNaruto Beat him outright, but
more like Naruto was outshininghim and saving Sasuke from
certain situations where I'mlike, ah, this is getting a
little embarrassing.
It's kind of like with Deku andBakugou, to where Bakugou didn't

(03:10:15):
like it when Deku was beinglike so helpful and saving him
and shit.
I'm like I didn't ask you tosave me, jackie, get the fuck
out of my way.
Yeah, I'm trying to do my thingout here and you make me deal
with the bitch.

Speaker 4 (03:10:27):
I was good bro.
I was going to kill him.
Right after this.
I had him bro, like what youdoing, get out of my way Like
bro Chris Tucker and Jackie Chanin the freaking Rush Hour
series and he was like you wasgetting beat up.

Speaker 1 (03:10:49):
He was like that's how I fight Nigga.
I just asked you to help me andthen, slapped his ass, you know
.
Mr Ruck is from the Boon,though Just unreasonably selfish
, where.
I'm like, bro, I'm just tryingto help you.
I'm like, did I ask for yourfucking help?
Oh damn, sorry, bro, selfishbro.
I'm like, bro, like I'm justtrying to help you out.
I'm like, did I ask?

Speaker 3 (03:11:04):
for your fucking help .

Speaker 1 (03:11:05):
Oh damn, sorry, bro.
Nah, like you see, that's whatI'm saying With Sasuke it was
more about pride than justseeking power, because, like he
just didn't like the idea ofNaruto all people getting more
shine.
I'm like hell.
No, like no way.

(03:11:27):
I'm letting none of all peopleget the hose before I get the
hose you know, I mean, I wasjust playing with his hole, but
like he had to be like goingaround impressing people.
No, no, hell, no, let me, letme get a but now you know what
I'm doing.
Doing.
I said what I said about theSuck the Retriever.
It was an amazing arc.

(03:11:47):
I loved it.
It was like Damn like it kindof Rivals, you tuning them Like
I don't know which one I likemore.
Like tuning them or Suck theRetriever, because they both hit
differently.
Yeah, but they're very good intheir own right I agree it's
hard to choose between the arcsthat's what I told one like when

(03:12:09):
I was on social medias wheresomebody was saying, like what
was the best arc in nars?
Oh hell, no, bro, you can't dothat bro, because like these
arcs hit so differentlydepending on what art you're
talking about.
Depending on what art you'retalking about, it hits in a
different level to where I'mlike, nah, bro, you can't do
that bro, like you can't beranking them like that Because,
like some of them go indifferent lanes, like maybe it's

(03:12:32):
emotional, maybe it's justhigh-octane action.
Like maybe we get somecharacter development or some
backstory that will explain someshit development or some
backstory that will explain someshit kind of like with bleak.
When we get to season 11, wherewe get some backstory on the
soul reapers, why eisen wasexperimenting on the uh what who

(03:12:54):
became the visors and what that, who were like we kind of
understand what was going on.
Like see, depending on what art, it hits different.
So, like I just said, with thetuning exam and the substitute
retrieval art, it's kind of hardto say which one's better
because even though both aregood, they both hit differently.

(03:13:16):
It really depends on the theme.
Like, if it's like two of thesame theme, then it would be an
easy comparison.
But if you're talking about,say, for instance, search for
Tsunade, where it was aboutTsunade Running away from her
past, and with the Sasukeretrieval arc, it's about Sasuke

(03:13:42):
Having a wounded pride, fellinto darkness, just gain more
power to achieve its goal.
Excuse me, I'm kind of spacingout, but yeah, like these are
just hit so differently thatit's kind of unfair to rank them
.
All I can say is there weresome arts.

(03:14:06):
That was mid at the very least,and then there was some really
good arts that was reallytalking about some shit.
But that's all I had to say.
On the Sasuke pre-war, it wasgas.
That's all I'll say.

Speaker 4 (03:14:19):
It was gas.
I'm talking about gas.
Shout out to Rock Lee, my boy.

Speaker 1 (03:14:24):
Oh yeah, rock Lee, girl Choji.
All you boys did that shit, bro.
That's why I said that theseboys, they men.
When I'm saying men, that's afact, y'all did that shit for
real, and then they had to dealwith Neji too.

Speaker 4 (03:14:38):
Like that's some, that's some shit.

Speaker 1 (03:14:41):
Yeah, too, like that's some that's some shit or
an out for him, by the way.

Speaker 4 (03:14:45):
Uh was that all you got yeah, that's all I got.
That's all I got, for sure allright.

Speaker 1 (03:14:52):
Well, that is it for this part of the naruto stream
review, and that is it fornaruto part one.
The next time we talk aboutNaruto, we will be diving into
Shippuden, where we're going tobe talking about the Gaara
rescue arc, where Gaara's beingkidnapped by the Akatsuki, and

(03:15:15):
the Leaf Village and the SandVillage make this joint effort
to save him.
With that being said, let's goahead and close this one out.
Thank you for being on the showwith me for this part and I
thank the listener for listeningto the end.
Go ahead and have yourself agood morning, good afternoon,
good evening and good night, butultimately, you take it easy.

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