November 1, 2025 • 55 mins
The cult chaos of Panty & Stocking crashes back into our feeds, and we’re sorting the sparks from the smoke. We pull apart what made season one a nine-out-of-ten riot—cartoon shell, anime soul, and that iconic Anarchy cue—and why season two, despite Trigger’s hyper stylized flair, feels sleeker but softer around the edges. Think Newgrounds energy filtered through modern sensibilities: the parodies still pop, the transformations still dazzle, yet the writing sometimes swaps sharp character beats for a stack of cameos.
We dig into the big swings and the pulled punches. The Demon Sisters get the glow‑up they deserved, turning every run‑in into a proper rivalry with real chemistry, while the new angel bros speak fluent Gen Z with reckless confidence. At the same time, the reworked tone clips one of the series’ most provocative threads: Garterbelt. Instead of reinventing him with a clear arc, season two trims him down to scolding and scheming, and the absence of a meaningful rewrite is felt. We’re not arguing for old shock value; we’re arguing for better writing—replacing retired gags with growth, consequence, and character‑driven humor.
Along the way, we connect the dots between Drawn Together, South Park, Clone High, and the broader “sanitized reboot” era. We debate the art of endings, the danger of cliffhangers with no plan, and why some shows—like Edgerunners or Scott Pilgrim Takes Off—achieve cult status by knowing when to bow out. Our final read: season one remains essential viewing; season two is a lively, good‑looking return that needs sharper teeth and bolder stakes to stand shoulder to shoulder with its predecessor.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
What up gang?
Let's talk about Penny andStalking with Carter Belt and
the new season that came outthis year.
What can I say?
What can I say?
Rewatching season one, it justbrought up old memories of how
like I used to watch this showwhen I like I won't say a baby
(00:22):
weed, but more like I was goingthrough my self-discovery phase.
Well, how can I put this?
Uh it's like after the goldenage of Tsunami, and it got to a
point to where if you want towatch new anime, you might as
well just uh go online and tryto find some site to watch new
anime.
And painting and stocking has tobe one of those shows where I'm
(00:44):
like, okay, I never heard ofthis anime.
Well, that's the crazy thing.
SPEAKER_03 (00:50):
Adult cartoon.
SPEAKER_01 (00:51):
Yeah, like it looks like an adult cartoon, but it
feels like especially consideredthat Gynax, the same people
behind Girl and the Gone, wasbehind the first season, but you
know, after the big split atGynex, um, that's how Studio
Trigger was formed, and nowPanny and Stalking is under
Studio Trigger.
(01:12):
So, in a way, like especiallywith season two, uh, if you've
seen Kill of Kill and Girl andGun and uh especially Space Cup
Luco, which is like this shortversion, short anime, and it got
even had a fucking parody tothat anime, too.
That's how you can tell, like,okay, that's how you can tell
this is a studio triggerproduction.
(01:34):
Uh but it just feels like ananime, like it's it looks like
an adult cartoon, but it feelslike an anime at times, like
especially with this secondseason where it had like the
anime tropes here and there, youknow, like with the some of the
ghosts passing on and whatnot,it's like that tearful anime
type scene.
(01:56):
I'm like, okay, okay.
Like so, yeah, adult cartoon,but kind of feels like anime
too.
But outside of that, it's funny.
It is funny, like they got somegreat references.
Like, hey, they didTransformers, they did Star
Wars.
I was geeking out when they dida Magic the Gathering episode,
(02:21):
and outside of all that, thewhole show just feels like one
big sex, it's like just sexualin the window everywhere, and
I'm not complaining too muchabout it.
It's just that's pretty much it.
It's like mainly uh pantygetting her rocks up with some
(02:43):
dudes, stalking eating somesweets, Garabell having his
Cedric Kinks and uh you have theDemon Sisters, you have their
cousins, or not the Demon'scousins, but uh panting stocking
cousins um coming up as rivals.
(03:06):
It's almost like randomshenanigans up until they decide
to throw a little bit of quietin it.
But uh Kobe Gasu, Sebie Phantom,I do thank you for being on for
this review.
Let's start with Sebi.
How are you feeling about pantyand stock with Garter Belt?
(03:27):
Since Kobe Gasu is gonna grillme for no, you gotta see the
whole thing.
SPEAKER_02 (03:35):
So I have to go.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
You gotta say garter belt.
SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
I have to say with the garter belt.
SPEAKER_01 (03:40):
Yeah, you gotta see the whole thing.
SPEAKER_03 (03:42):
Oh my god, you gotta say the whole thing.
Okay, well like a pimp namedSlipbat.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Stop I remember when you know little little
12-year-old me watching thoseanime music videos, and these
two transformation videos justpop up on some random rock and
roll song, and I'm like, what isthis anime?
And had to download funanimation to watch this stuff at
(04:10):
the time.
This this is definitely achildhood.
Shouldn't have been watching itat that age, but it definitely
introduced me to the wholemagical girl life.
SPEAKER_01 (04:23):
That's crazy too, because in a way, painting
stalking just feels likesomething straight from
Newgrounds.
SPEAKER_02 (04:30):
Y'all remember I remember playing all the
Newground.
Don't even get started on that.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
SPEAKER_03 (04:37):
That's gonna be a whole after dark segment,
nostalgia episode, Newgrounds.
That's gonna be a whole thing initself.
SPEAKER_01 (04:43):
Hey, you know what?
I need to write that down.
I'm gonna write that down.
SPEAKER_02 (04:47):
Because not to go off on something random, but
Newgrounds was like aneye-opening thing that I
shouldn't have been on either.
But I like this anime.
I remember first season that wasnostalgia, watching that one
over, and then coming into thesecond season.
I'm a little iffy on the secondseason, I'm not gonna lie to
(05:10):
you.
With someone growing up withcompanions talking as original
voice actors coming on to thesecond season.
I was like, I don't know how Ifeel about it, but I got used to
it.
I like it.
More towards the first seasonthan the second season, to be
fair.
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
Okay, we're gonna call it New Grounds and Mature
Gaming.
SPEAKER_04 (05:35):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (05:41):
Alright.
So look for me onto Penny andStalking, I agree a lot of
things with Messi for the samefor me.
So I found penny and stalking intwo different ways.
One, it was when it was firstannounced, it was one of those
secret announced um shows.
It's like, oh, you gotta watchthis type of thing.
And I'm like, I don't sure ifI'm gonna watch it.
I watched it.
I actually reason I watched itwas because I was tricked into
(06:01):
watching it, okay.
During the time when Penny andStalking came out, was the same
time that Cartoon Network hadhigh high puffy.
Okay, yes, I mean, you mean yes,especially when finding out
those two girls are the are theones that did the um the song
for Teen Titans Go.
I was uh all into it, loved it,absolutely love the show.
(06:22):
So I'm still upset at how theycanceled it.
I'm like, why would you do that?
But that was like a trope thatthey were doing at the time.
It was two power two magicalgirls, one is bubbly, one is
edgy.
You know, it's the same forpenny and stocking, and then you
have their male um like malemanager that was taking care of
it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:41):
Would you say Panny is bubbly though?
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
Yeah, I I I would at least in her own way in her own
way, in her own way, in her ownway, she is.
SPEAKER_03 (06:50):
She be popping with these dudes like like pills, she
popping dudes like pills, younotice.
And being an angel, she can'tget an STD, so it and she can't
get pregnant, so she doesn'teven care for her.
It's free roam of everything,which is good lord.
Worst combination, anyway.
So yeah, I agree.
I I shouldn't have been watchingit, but I was tricked into
watching it because I can'tremember the dude's name.
(07:12):
I only remember his gamer tag.
Anyway, is the fact that he toldme he was like, yo, yo, you
gotta watch this.
He said, it's just like how Ihad Foxyama Yumi, but better.
And I said, for real?
SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
And that's how I got caught.
First of all, it feels like oneof those things where like I
think I wore the wrong um show.
Like, you know, like I thoughtthis was supposed to be um Pokey
Yama Yumi.
Um, second of all, it's like itit kind of gives off the same
trolling as when some peoplelike that recommend shit like uh
uh what was it?
Poku no pico and Yosuka no Sora.
(07:46):
And I'm sitting like, what theokay, and then the more you hear
people like recommending it, I'mlike, oh okay.
So it's one of those trollthings where like you just want
to traumatize some people orsome shit.
SPEAKER_03 (07:58):
And I I was not traumatized, but it was
definitely very eye-opening.
And so I was like, oh my god,um, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (08:04):
Sexual awakening.
SPEAKER_03 (08:07):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I kind of was we
we've had I've had a wholesegment before that.
I was waking earlier, it wasjust one that I was like not
prepared at that moment to bewatching, so I was like, oh my
god, but I enjoyed it, it was sostupid hilarious.
And Messi, I fully agree withyou about um season one and
season two.
So here's the thing because Italked about this with um JB
even before this, is the factseason two um is still wild
(08:31):
nonsense, but if you notice itis toned down a lot more.
There's a particular reason forit, is because not just cancel
culture but all the bullshitthat's going on right now.
Like, for example, there are nojokes about guard, there's no
jokes about Gardebelt um beingthe pedal priest papy in season
two, like at all.
He does not make moves, he's notmaking moves on briefs in season
(08:53):
one.
He was always making a move onbriefs.
That was every single episode,exactly, because it was part of
the joke, is the fact that he'sthe priest that's got not going
after the young boy.
You a young boy, I like that.
That became a whole thing.
Well, you know, it's it's aware,it's more aware now that that is
what happens to a lot of boys.
They were unfortunately takenadvantage of by a lot of these
(09:16):
fake priests that callthemselves Pete Priests and
stuff, and they would do thesethings, and so because of that,
it's no longer funny anymore, sothey removed that joke.
I fully understand that, butbecause there's so much of that
happening now, so much sexualtrauma that goes around now,
sexual jokes are not as funnyanymore, so it has to be toned
down a lot.
So, because of that is why likeseason two, it's doesn't seem as
(09:39):
funny anymore because we'releaning from the extremely
over-sexualized, over justover-the-top drama to it being
toned down, and to try to keepthings funny, we're gonna drop
cameo after cameo after cameo,we're gonna make the cameos
funny, we're gonna make fun ofall these different shows.
It's like it's like whathappened was is that season two
(10:01):
for me uh turned into South Parkin a sense.
Oh, you know what's crazy?
SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Yeah, now uh you want to know what's crazy?
Uh there is one of the guys whoprovided the initial idea for
the series, you know, while GuyNash was like going on vacation,
they were getting drunk and likeuh doing a whole bunch of uh
shit.
They were like uh spitballingideas for a new uh anime.
(10:31):
And the crazy thing is, one ofthe guys was like, hey, you know
what?
Let's make an anime just likedrawn together.
Like literally, you you can uhlook it up.
Like they pretty much use drawntogether as an inspiration for
the crudeness of this show.
SPEAKER_03 (10:49):
I love that.
You can definitely see that.
You can definitely see that.
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Like that was so fucking funny, but like once
again, it's one of those showswhere I'm like, bro, it would
not survive in today's function.
SPEAKER_03 (11:01):
Think about it this way.
Like, for example, a lot ofpeople know Stan Lee is well
known for Marvel and stuff likethat, but most people don't know
about Stan Lee's secret projectsthat he did that next part with
it.
SPEAKER_04 (11:11):
Striparella.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
But yeah, Stripperella.
The first I watched Striparellaonce I was at Comedy Central
after dark.
And I was like, is a superherowho's a stripper?
It is.
I'm watching.
Like I was again, another showas I am a 10-year-old kid who
should not be watching this, butI'm gonna watch it.
(11:32):
Um look, our generation isintroduced to a whole lot of
shit.
SPEAKER_02 (11:36):
Like what are you talking about?
My me in my room underneath myblanket, my DSI playing this
show because I had access tofree internet at the time.
SPEAKER_03 (11:47):
Oh yes.
Having access to my neighbor'sWi-Fi, biggest mistake, bro.
I was I was into every damnthing possible.
I was that was my firstexperience with the dark web.
Anyway, and co figure, weactually have jokes on the dark
web even on pain stock.
Penny stocking picks on thingslike that too, about literally
getting exposed to stuff early.
That's the whole thing forBriefs, the fact that he was
(12:07):
exposed early thanks to you knowPanty.
I actually really liked theshow, the concept of the show
based upon how the charactersare.
The one thing I reallyappreciated for season two was
getting more incorporation ofthe Demon Sisters.
Anti and Nishawks are my fuckingfavorite characters of the
entire series.
I love them in season onebecause whenever they showed, it
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was like the way they showed upin season one was like when the
rowdy rough boys would show upthe power up girls.
As soon as you heard it wasabout to get fucked, he was
like, Oh, damn.
The rowdy rough boys showed up.
Oh, that means the girls aboutto have a time right now, it's
about to get crazy.
Because every single time theyshowed up, they would give the
girls the hardest damn troubleuntil they could finally find a
(12:51):
way to like beat them, type ofthing.
And it's like every single time,it was like damn, it wasn't it
on the same scale of GreenRanger showing up and fighting
Morphin, but damn near close.
As soon as they show up, youknow, some shit was about to pop
off.
And it was the same thing forscanty knee socks.
As soon as they showed up, Pantyand Stock and was like, Oh my
god, not you two again.
(13:11):
Like, why has it gotta be you?
I'd rather fight another ghost,another demon, whatever.
But I hate fighting y'all.
It was like just it was amazingseeing it.
Then, of course, you know,Scanty is you know, Scanty and
Nislocks are like the proper,the nice, the high class
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versions and stuff like that.
Oh, we're demons, but we holdourselves to a high standard,
and it's like the wholereversal.
Like you would expect the wayPanty and Stalking are acting to
be like, oh, you're fallenangels.
Yeah, I can see that.
Y'all act like fallen angels anddemons versus these rising
demons.
That's like y'all act more likewhat we'd expect angels to act
like.
SPEAKER_01 (13:51):
Man, it kind of crazy how like Panty and
Stalking kind of did it a whileago before Hello Boss and uh
Hashman Hotel, where it justseemed like uh oh, the angels
and whatnot are that um pure.
And meanwhile, the demons arelike, okay, they're demons and
they're like degenerates, but atleast they're honest about being
(14:12):
degenerates.
Hey, as the group in this case,they're more proper in this one.
Where it's like, wow, like crazyhow like the demons are asking
the more appropriate one, whilethe angels are like um party
boys and party girls just havingorigins and shit.
SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
Look, as the um as as the the group philosopher, as
well as also because here's thething, I am Christian, but I'm
also I'm a Christian that likepays attention to a lot of other
stuff.
I look at all other religions.
I have read a lot of those otherbooks, I looked at a whole so
many different things, okay?
So understand this.
Uh, because the series isprimarily based with the
Christianity belief, just likeHell of a Boss and Um and Hasman
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O'Tell is actually heavily basedmore on the on Christianity, but
it's also that moment ofunderstanding that yes, uh a
couple books of the Bible wasremoved.
Most people kind of most peopleknow this now, but what you
don't understand is that inthose books, angels are horny
ass motherfuckers.
Like most of the shit that wouldhappen is the fact that angels
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would look down and be like,damn, that's a fine motherfucker
right there, and then make halfangel babies and all types of
shit would happen.
And I kid you not, the same shitthat we blame that you would
blame Zeus for, then you'd belike, oh man, Zeus was horny as
hell, type of shit.
Yeah, congratulations.
That's actually how the angelswere.
They weren't that horny assmotherfucker.
(15:36):
They would come down just to doshit.
Just because and the funny thingabout it is that the demons
would actually not be fucked.
The demons only show up just tofuck with people, type of thing.
Oh, we're just here to to raisehell, like how Scanty and Nitox
were.
Like if they show up, they wouldjust raise hell, type of thing,
versus Penny Stalking wouldcause hell every time they
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showed up.
It's believe it or not, thatactually is based upon the
actual religion, based upon theactual stories.
And that's why the CatholicChurch removed those stories
because they're like, no, we'renot we're gonna remove those.
No, you go back and read those,it's some crazy shit that
happened.
But it's like, yeah, no, thisthis is actually almost
biblically accurate.
The only difference is the factthat they look human, you know.
(16:21):
Angels didn't look that human,they were just like jumping.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
Yeah, it's like, don't fear me, child.
I'm like, um, can you like fixthat?
Like, if anything, it's morelike I'm not afraid, you just
very hard to look at.
SPEAKER_03 (16:44):
But no, so yeah, it's it's hilarious on that.
But that's also one again.
Like I love scanty Nissocks intheir characters.
I like that we get more of acorporation of them.
Like you also mentioned tooNissocks having the job that she
works at the um the comic bookstore with the the cars and the
sales and they have the magicgathering episode, and Panty's
like all into this because sheneeds to pay back this debt.
(17:04):
Because it's like, oh my god, Ican't.
You're telling me that I can'tum I can't just call guys and
it's just gonna show up wheneveranymore.
Is it no?
Uh I will say, so I was verycurious at the very beginning of
the series.
I wasn't with the way that Pantyand Stalking ended, and then it
was announced that the serieswas done, they were not gonna
(17:26):
come back.
I was so pissed off because youwas like, How the hell you gonna
end it with fucking uh stalkingslicing up panty and then be
like, oh, I'm a demon, and thendirts away, and you're like
that.
You're just gonna end the serieslike that.
And I'm like, So how are yougonna explain that?
I'm actually very curious howy'all felt about that
explanation.
To me, it was kind of like itwas okay, I'll accept it, but it
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definitely wasn't one that Ikind of was gonna say I was
happy about.
About the whole, oh, it's alittle brain worm that we put in
I put in her brain and justsaying over and over again, I'm
a demon.
So she thinks that she is.
And I was like, really?
SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Honestly, once again, like we just did the Kai
G number eight review at thispoint.
Uh, it it kind of gives me thatsame vibe to where it just feels
like you uh left it off on thiscliffhanger, and you're just
kind of not expecting anyone touh want a second season from
that.
(18:23):
It's like you're just kind of uhhinging that cliffhanger on a
new season to be produced, butit's like you're not telling us
any plans to make a secondseason, so I I don't really know
how to feel about that.
Like uh, I I'm kind of glad theybrought it back because not
gonna lie, I completely forgotthat's how they ended season one
(18:44):
off until I dove back into ittrying to prepare for season
two, and I'm like, whoa, holdon, like, keep in mind that uh
the first season, what was thatback in 2010?
That was 15 years ago.
Like, I did not remember itending off that.
(19:06):
I know, like, that's the funnything about brief, to where
brief is just there until theplot demands that he needs to
serve some sort of purpose, soit's like he just kind of like
that sidekick character that'ssent thing for panty, up until
okay, you're finally useful forsomething.
(19:27):
Magical dick energy.
Yeah, like I remember that withhis magical dick energy, um,
trying to save um panty andwhatnot, but I completely forgot
that's how they ended it offright there.
Like they just sliced her up, umswiped up panty saying, Oh, I'm
gonna eat and just ran off.
I'm like, what the fuck is goingon?
(19:49):
Uh I'm like well, damn near 50.
Oh man, I was almost about to gofull syndrome, whereas like too
late 15 years too late.
But like just imagine uh if wejust stopped caring about
(20:09):
panning and stock and buy then.
I was like, Well, too late.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:15):
That's kind of what happened to me.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
Your last episode of season onekind of felt like a cop-out to
me.
Like, you're just gonna end itlike that.
Well, thanks a lot for nothing.
I love again, I love it, butagain, at the same time, it's
like 15 years went by.
I have season one syndrome allover this thing, like the rest
(20:39):
of my Orange High School HostClub, not gonna talk about that.
Um, I'm just gonna forget aboutit, I'm not gonna see it again,
and then all of a sudden, 15years later, I'm now an adult,
and I'm like, okay, we'regetting a season two of Panny
and Stocking.
Like, hello, like, okay, I guesswe're exactly gonna go back and
(21:03):
watch season one all over again,fall in love with it, and then
season two.
Uh again, I just kind of feltlike uh kind of dropped off the
face of the earth for me.
It's like it's to me it's like aone-shot anime almost.
You watch it all the waythrough, and then you just kind
of end it on the last episode,like, okay, I watched it.
(21:24):
But it's so good at the sametime.
SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
It has wonderful moments that is like, okay, this
is hilarious.
Um, I mean, that's that's prettymuch how I felt like I do.
That's how I felt about seasontwo was the fact, okay.
I understand the point of youhad to remove some of the main
jokes.
I get that.
Um, to me, that now becomes apoint of was it worth it to make
a season two when your thiswhole series is based on these
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overly sexualized jokes that nowyou have to get rid of.
You know what it is?
SPEAKER_01 (21:55):
It's like because they can't get away with all
those different sex jokes andwhatnot, it's more like it went
from being uh well like, youknow, like with Rick and Morty,
where most of the um episodes inthat scene is like uh not really
uh scripted or serialized or notcanonical.
(22:15):
That's the thing, it's like theymade season two more canonical,
where it's like, okay, you havethe demon sisters uh living with
Panty and Stocking uh withGardeville after you know the
whole shit that went down withCorset, where it's like, okay,
they're homeless, so they needto uh they just pretty much uh
sharing that truth with them.
(22:37):
And then you have the angelbrothers, uh polyester and par
your thing, which is funnybecause they talk like how Gen Z
and Gen Alpha talk nowadays, andI want to say it's kind of funny
up until they say low-key alittle too much, like at least
(22:57):
switch it up by saying high keyor on key.
I'm like, okay, that's notaccurate.
SPEAKER_03 (23:03):
Like, no, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I have I have a daughter that'sJen Alpha.
Low-key is said 56 times in a 15sentence, in the 15 word
sentence.
It is it is absolutely accurate.
It is said that damn much.
I I promise you, that is and asaggravating as it feels, it's
(23:25):
just let's be honest, we'remillennials.
This that's the main reason whyZen Z didn't out perplex me.
SPEAKER_01 (23:37):
Y'all perplex me.
SPEAKER_02 (23:39):
Can I be considered millennials?
Can I just be considered as amillennial at this point?
Because, like, technically I'mpart of Gen Z, but that's beside
the point.
SPEAKER_03 (23:50):
Uh look, Gen Z and millennials are pretty much
about the same.
Is there's like so there's thislittle pool between like the end
of Gen Z, that like thebeginning of Gen Z and the end
of millennials.
That's technically you're both.
It's like the like astralscience type of thing.
If you fit in that windowbetween, then you're both.
Who cares?
SPEAKER_01 (24:08):
I just it's like it's like being a 90s kid to
where you're like you grew up onold school, but you're also
young enough to kind of followthe new school.
I'm I can kind of keep up withy'all, but y'all kind of losing
me with the dumb shit.
SPEAKER_03 (24:26):
Skippity toilet.
Right.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?
SPEAKER_02 (24:32):
So to me again, with going back to panty and
stalking, it's like taking highschool dxd, remastering it
today, and just cutting out allthe nudity.
Season two.
SPEAKER_03 (24:43):
Yeah, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, nude.
So that's one thing about it.
Like season two has nothing butnudity.
SPEAKER_02 (24:48):
No, I understand that, but it's like taking away
their ecci, like completely,just disappearing.
Okay.
I mean, that's what it feelslike to me.
Like if high school dxd came outremastered, like brand new, like
kind of like how Fruits Basketsdid their remastered version of
it.
It's the same thing, justdifferent artwork.
(25:09):
If they if they came out with ittoday, I feel like a lot of
people.
I I feel like they would takeaway a lot of different aspects
of it because I got into aheated debate a couple of years
ago in regards to high schooldxd.
It's one of my all-time favoriteedgy things, but I got into a
very heated argument withsomebody at a Comic-Con one year
(25:32):
and about like ages, whatever.
I feel like that's kind of whatwould happen if high school DXD
came out now.
SPEAKER_03 (25:44):
I mean, right.
Yeah, high school DSD has beenlike remastered, as uh not
remastered it, like the newseasons that keep coming out.
I will say do feel a littlelackluster from the previous.
It's one of the ones thatsurprisingly have not picked up
the manga for it.
I don't know why, but themanga's nice.
SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
Yeah, that's the crazy thing about high school D
uh D by D because like itdespite the uh sexual jokes, the
world building is what reallygrips you because like you have
all these real well like uhthese uh noticeable deities,
like hell, like if um the animekept going, you would have found
(26:23):
out that oh yeah, like uh Jesus,the Jesus had like this weapon
that could have wiped out uhhell, heaven, all this is.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
I'm like, so when we gonna getinto season five, like uh season
five?
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
It goes back to that whole yeah, heaven is good, bad,
good, hell is shit.
SPEAKER_03 (26:49):
And then and then they incorporate like every
mythology into it, like youknow, someone call shows up and
he was just like, I don't care,I just want to fight people.
He's like, No, you're supposedto be like the one of the higher
hierarchies of heaven, likeseriously.
Um, now I want to mention I Ihave to mention this because I
have to.
You want to mess with me aboutthe fact that I haven't said
that I was saying you gotta sayPenny Socky with Gardebell, you
gotta include him into it, butyou still to this day, we have
(27:12):
done how many reviews of highschool DXD, and you still gotta
say D by D.
You can't say DXD, that's stilla thing for you.
SPEAKER_02 (27:20):
Yeah, you're saying can I say that I didn't really
get a lot of Garter Belt?
I mean, he was in season two,but I felt like I didn't get I
guess that's where that wholecancel culture comes in.
I feel like I didn't get a lotof him.
SPEAKER_03 (27:39):
No, he he was removed.
That's the thing.
That's what I was saying.
His whole thing is based uponhim being the the sexualized
priest and stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
And this was the brave report.
I kind of glossed over thatelement where like uh I thought
he was like just being friendlytowards Brie Bike.
Oh wait, I was not thinking I'llbe like that.
SPEAKER_03 (28:03):
It was intense nonsense.
So, yeah, because of that,that's his whole writing.
All of season one, when you payattention to it, his writing is
only two things he's eithergiving panty and stalking orders
and yelling at them about beinglazy and shit, or constantly
over sexualizing over briefs.
So when you remove that, thatone segment, and you realize the
fact that a good portion of himis him constantly making
(28:25):
advancements at briefs at everygiven moment, and you remove
that, you realize that heactually does not have much for
character development in seasontwo because they've just removed
that whole thing for him, andit's like, dang.
And so you kind of figure outlike what would you do?
SPEAKER_01 (28:41):
Well, another thing about Gardeville that I know is
how it seemed like he's tryingto really hard to try to bribe
himself into having like tryingto piss up to uh the king of a
king um panty and stocking.
Um but that's the crazy part ofthe words, like I feel like I
(29:02):
I'm pretty sure that this wasn'teven alluded to in season one.
But to find out that, oh,they're not just um fallen
angels that was banished fromheaven for um some bullshit, but
they were the daughters of theking and queen of heaven.
And they also had this uncle whowas like fought against um all
(29:26):
of them, with um polyester andparty your thing being uh his
sons, but uh crazy enough, likeuh oh, they aren't allowed to
call him father, uh they justcall him your highness and
whatnot.
And then they got that one timewhere, like, eh, you can call me
(29:47):
father design.
All right, we're we're almostgonna win, so you might as well
just I'm feeling so good.
Like, y'all can call me fatherif you want to.
But no, no, no.
It's like It's like Gordobell istrying to kiss up to all these
folks, trying to um buy his he'sliterally trying to buy his way
into heaven.
(30:08):
And it's funny, but alsopredictable how when he tried to
do the same thing, Brie andChuck did to like kind of kill
himself, uh, thanks to Gunsmithbitch uh helping them out.
And Gardeville also took that uhconcoction to kill himself so he
(30:32):
can hopefully uh get back intoheaven, and then he ended up
going to hell with uh the Dina'ssister.
And I'm like, Yep, that wasdeserved.
I don't even feel me.
I was like, I was kind oflaughing, but like, ha ha ha ha
ha, you thought you were goingto heaven, the way you're trying
to buy your way to heaven.
SPEAKER_03 (30:52):
Look, the way Gardevelt was doing, he was
either gonna go to hell or go tolimbo.
That was gonna be a thing.
And from my understanding, therethere is no limbo in the series,
so it kept us pretty much still.
SPEAKER_01 (31:03):
Yeah.
Or it could have been one ofthose things where um Earth is
actually the real limbo towhere, oh, if you die, you just
get reincarnated.
I'm like, no, I don't want to behere, like taping to heaven.
Like, nope.
Like just imagine can youimagine um being reincarnated on
on earth being worse than goingto hell?
SPEAKER_02 (31:26):
I feel like that kind of Satan City is kind of
the heaven to hell thing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:33):
Yeah.
I mean, think about it like howmany people keep coming back as
ghosts, like constantly, andthey're unable to move on, type
of thing.
I think that's pretty much whatit is.
Like your soul is stuck there.
This might be pretty much thisis just a limbo.
Like they didn't actually go toEarth.
This is just a segment of Earththat's been cut off from the
rest of the world, type ofthing, and it's not because even
(31:53):
the news segments, the newssegments never talk about the
earth being destroyed, it's justthat city.
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
The state and city, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (31:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:00):
Another thing, just to tuck off of Garter Belt, is
this is nothing against DanielWalton.
I think he's a really greatvoice actor.
Um, and this might be a littlecontroversial.
I don't think he gave GarterBelt justice to me.
And not to say ChristopherSokbault back in season one.
That's all my that's he plays alot of different guys, but I
(32:21):
just feel like we're I don'tthink we got the same, like
Garter, like I'm not saying ithas to be the same Gardevelt,
but I just don't think I gotthat full-on, like, yeah, this
is Gardevelt.
This is the guy I remember.
But again, I guess that's whereit comes down to a lot of I
(32:46):
don't want to say the wrongthing here, but I think that's
where a lot of of that wholecancel culture characters and
voice actors kind of starting tomix together instead of let's
find the perfect voice percharacter.
I I I guess I'm not saying thiscorrectly, to be fair and
honest.
Um pretty much.
(33:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
I I agree with you on to it.
That's how I feel too.
Because it's one of those oneslike now your character's been
his a lot of his lines, a lot ofstuff has been cut out, and he's
not as much of a big presencethere anymore.
So it's one of those ones likedo you take full advantage of
the limited time that you have,or do you just kind of just get
it over with type of thing?
Because anytime that I've done,I've always met I've always
mentioned like a lot of oldpodcasts.
(33:30):
So if your old time listenersknow I do this, or never know I
rate like an actor, an actor,actress, voice actor, voice
actor is always based on threethings.
It's gonna be based onbelievability, it's gonna be
based on writing, and it's gonnabe based on how the voice acting
itself, the afflections andeverything is all that comes
together in different ways.
And so it's like you could havean actor that does fantastic.
(33:52):
As soon as they get on screen,as soon as you hear their voice,
they're like booming out there,like it sells it.
But if it's bad writing, it'snot gonna do anything.
And that's kind of one that kindof hit hard here because yeah,
you're not gonna get the sameguard belt.
And I get what you mean.
You don't want necessarily thesame, it doesn't have to be it's
a whole new season, but youstill gotta have energy, you
(34:12):
still gotta have that feel toit, and it wasn't there, you're
right, but then he he wasn'tpresent.
There's not much every singletime they show a garde belt, he
was doing something sneaky.
It was either he was sneaking orhe was yelling at pinning and
stalking and knee toxic and uhscandy, and that was about it.
So it was like uh you don't seehim much, and then so you only
(34:33):
see him being sneaky.
Can't really give much of theenergy in that.
That's one of the ones I kind ofto me personally, I put down the
writing.
But he said can't be a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (34:47):
It just feels like at this point, since um Garter
Girl is suffering from characterassassination.
I'm kind of looking at that uhtitle and I'm like, I think we
can erase the Garter Girl part.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
See, yeah.
Now look, I will I want to if wecan mention a couple things here
into it.
Camp character assassination isa very specific thing to mention
it today because it's one ofthose ones that character
assassination happens veryspecifically onto this.
Okay.
So for example, back with theSpace Jam uh New A New Legacy,
the new one that came the newestone, where Pepe Le Pew, where
(35:26):
they had to completely redo theentire thing to completely cut
out Peppa Pew's scenes becauseof how his character was
written.
His character was written to beconstantly uh sexualizing women,
always just wanting to get withthe um with the cat girl, and
just always just like alwaystrying to do whatever.
And it's like, yeah, okay, he'sover forward, he never accepts a
(35:46):
no as an answer, and he's toomuch.
And like, I fully get that, Ifully get that into it.
And so it became a whole thingwhere it's like, no, we need to
completely remove his character,but it was one of those ones I'm
like, okay, but you have theability to rewrite him instead
of just killing it off.
How about you rewrite him as aperson that says, Hey, you know,
that was a past me.
I used to do a lot of crazythings, and that's not me
(36:07):
anymore.
And I want to and I can provemyself where I'm gonna do better
type of thing.
You have the option to do so, ordo the lazy out and just
character assassinate.
SPEAKER_01 (36:17):
But that's the crazy part where uh when it comes to
like cartoon characters andwhatnot, okay, maybe they he
might get a second chance.
But that's the crazy part aboutcancel culture to where it kind
of doesn't matter uh how longit's been since that was uh in
your past and whatnot.
Some people just feel, oh well,nope.
(36:38):
Uh now that I know that you didall that, I just can't see you
in any better lighting thanthat.
Like yeah, it's like it's justlike nope, I I'm just too stuck
on you doing that that long agoto a point to where they're just
no coming back from that.
It's like you might will juststay cancel and live in a forge
(37:02):
in a log cabin and like justdelete your social media
accounts and shit, like likeyou're not allowed to speak
anymore.
We better not cast you out onthese streets.
SPEAKER_03 (37:16):
That's that's just kind of the thing.
I mean, everyone has a right,you have a right to for
forgiveness, you have a right tonot forgive.
That that is a personal choice,and you fully understand to it.
It's just weird to me aboutcartoon characters.
It's like it's it's a cartoon,though, you know.
Just kind of it's not like thisis an actual person going out
doing evil bad stuff, type ofthing.
Because and another example isthat Johnny Bravo.
(37:38):
I didn't even like you know,cancel culture came hard for
Johnny Bravo.
I didn't realize how hard itwound up coming to the point
that they I did not know thatthey remade the Johnny Bravo
series.
They did, I didn't they did,yeah, they did exactly.
I didn't know that until like itrandomly popped up one time.
I was watching a video thatsomeone was talking about how
cancel culture caused uh changesin characters and stuff, and
(38:01):
yeah, they they redid JohnnyBravo, and it was like, what?
But it was one of those oneswhere just like okay, we're
gonna rewrite the character, andthen they didn't rewrite the
character.
And it was like, why would youit doesn't make sense?
Like you said you were gonnarewrite it, you didn't rewrite
it, and then you're wonderingwhy people still keep coming by
at canceling again for it, andthen the animation was
absolutely trash, it wasn'tfunny, like you took that took
(38:25):
away most of the humor for it.
Johnny's biggest thing about itis the fact that he was he still
thought every single woman wasbeautiful, type of thing.
That's just how he was.
He always came up and be like,Oh, you're beautiful.
I want to come out, I want tocome talk to you, I want to talk
to you, type of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (38:37):
And then he always be ironic beauty to Johnny
Braugo to her, like, hey man,pussy's pussy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:44):
That's the thing for it.
He's like, that's kind of how heis, type of stuff.
And so it's like, okay, butyeah, it was like, wait, you you
redid the okay, so hold on.
You say you're gonna fix it, youdon't fix it, and now you're
more upset about it.
I'm confused.
I'm like, now I'm just kind oflost on things.
It's like so you have theability to rewrite a character
if it's become a problem, and Ithink that is something that can
(39:05):
happen with what could havehappened easily with Guardabelt
as well.
Too, he could have been morepresent, there could have been
more of a rewriting board, therecould have been more things,
more of this, more of that.
There's always something thatyou could change or do better.
It's just that it kind of feltlike I don't know what to do.
We base his whole character onthese jokes of him being um
constantly going after briefsand being overly sexualized with
(39:27):
briefs, and now we have toremove that.
I don't have anything, I don'thave any more use for him.
And then that's when I was like,dang, yep, that's his own
character assassination by thewriters, because they don't know
what else to do.
That's always the scariest thingis making a character that you
don't know what to do with it,and you're like, hmm, you're
kind of just floating in thewind.
SPEAKER_02 (39:49):
Well, unfortunately, sorry.
SPEAKER_03 (39:52):
Oh no, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02 (39:54):
Unfortunately, what I'm seeing is that a lot of the
older animes, a lot of the oldercartoons that showed a bunch of
like sexual innuendos, um, justthings of that nature, I'm
seeing that come back nowadays.
And there's and again, they'reskipping around with it because
the ones they don't want tointeract with cancel culture,
(40:14):
they they're trying to rewriteit, but unfortunately their
writing isn't the best.
It would be like if Ren andStimpy came back today.
SPEAKER_03 (40:22):
What would you think about?
Please no.
Oh god.
SPEAKER_02 (40:28):
I'm just using it as an example.
Like, if we took a sexualizedanime or a cartoon, an adult
film, and brought it back todayand went, we're just gonna take
everything out, and here iscardboard.
SPEAKER_01 (40:43):
Hey, you know what is crazy?
It reminded me of what that whathappened to Clone High, where
it's like, okay, they rebootedClone High, but they had to
practically remove Gandhibecause oh, um, people who uh
revere Gandhi, they don't likethe way he's being represented
in this show.
So it's like either like he hasto be toned down or completely
(41:06):
removed.
So imagine what long they tookto that.
SPEAKER_03 (41:11):
I feel like if you have to rewrite a key character,
just make a whole new series.
SPEAKER_04 (41:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (41:17):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
I mean, then again, we have shit like Dom where they
try to rewrite a whole shit, andthat did not pan out.
SPEAKER_02 (41:27):
Unfortunately, that's the that's the cause and
effect of making a seriesnowadays that was something to
something to now.
You have panning a stocking withstarter belt, and you made it
now, and then you took a lot ofit to juice, and you squeezed it
out and gave it to us.
So a lot of the newer fans agreewith like, oh, this is great,
(41:48):
this is amazing, I love it.
And then a lot of older fanslike us are unfortunately like
there's not spice.
Where's my spice?
It's it's not there.
SPEAKER_03 (42:01):
So people's like, I don't know, season one was kind
of a bit much.
SPEAKER_02 (42:04):
That's the point.
SPEAKER_03 (42:05):
That's the point that's supposed to be a bit
point.
SPEAKER_02 (42:08):
It's like if South Park came into next week's
episode and took Cartman out.
SPEAKER_01 (42:14):
Actually, that's crazy because South Park so far
is still swinging with thejokes, where I'm like, they did
not tone it down at all withintheir 26th run of doing South
Park, almost to a point where,oh, South Park's getting
canceled again because they madea joke about the orange man, and
he didn't like that joke.
So they on my camps, likewhatever, man.
(42:36):
South part gets threatened to becanceled like what 10 times,
like maybe like once every year,whenever they bring out a new
season.
Like, that's it.
It's like once a season.
SPEAKER_03 (42:46):
It's like once a season, like not even once a
season, once every random thinghappens, boom, South Park.
Every other episode is a show.
unknown (42:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:54):
I mean, it kind of depends.
Like, sometimes it's like, okay,y'all kind of pushing it, like
it's wrong, like noteworthy.
Like, okay, some people arelike, oh, I didn't like that
guilt they made about me.
But it's not like to a point towhere people were like um trying
to boycott South Park.
It got to a point where thoseboys um making South Park, they
(43:16):
got so used to people trying tocancel them that they straight
up made a whole thing for likeone season, like hashtag cancel
South Park.
Because I'm like, I they werelike, I I wish you would, I wish
you would cancel us.
We're gonna we're gonna cancelourselves.
SPEAKER_02 (43:34):
Matt was they were very smart with what they did.
And if we if the creators hadthe opportunity to go with the
same type of flow with Panny andStocking with Garter Belt, I
gotta say the whole thing.
If they continue to go forwardwith you're welcome, season two,
if they continued going with it,I think they would have had
(43:57):
something.
I think a lot of the older bandswould have actually boosted up
the ratings because I saw theratings.
Half of them that come out of itare great, the other half is
like, this isn't my anime, thisisn't my panty, this isn't my
stocking.
If they continued to go with thesame flow as they did last
season, um again, we could havehad little touch-ups and
(44:20):
everything that they had goingon.
Of course, there's gonna need tobe updating, just like with
anything 15 years ago.
I think we would have I wouldhave enjoyed it a lot more than
what I had.
It's like if drawn together cameout now.
SPEAKER_01 (44:36):
Oh man, that would have been so sanitized.
SPEAKER_02 (44:39):
Exactly.
We wouldn't have had two, wewouldn't, we wouldn't have had
any of the characters.
Let me be fair and honest withyou.
SPEAKER_01 (44:51):
Oh Jesus Christ, just thinking about those
episodes on Draw Together, I'mlike, bro, they were really
pushing that with some things.
But that's what I loved aboutit.
It's like it's like they that'sthe whole point of comedy.
You push the envelope, you tryto test the war, test the
boundaries of what we can laughat.
SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
I think things like Draw Together, Panty and
Stalking, South Park, a coupleof others actually brought
people together rather thanpulling them apart because
people were talking about it.
Twitter's Twitter, or what is itcalled now?
SPEAKER_04 (45:27):
Uh X.
X.
There we go.
X.
SPEAKER_02 (45:30):
X.
People were talking about it.
Did you guys see last episode ofPanty and Stalking with
Gardevelt?
Did you see last episode ofSouth Park?
It got people talking.
And I think that's what we'remissing.
Nobody's talking about it otherthan it came back again.
It came back exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (45:51):
No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
It comes off like Star Warsepisode nine, where buddy was
like, somehow Emperor Palpatineis back.
I'm like, okay, how?
Why?
Why now?
Like, uh explain, like, what'sgoing on?
Like, I it kind of like that,where it just felt out of
(46:16):
nowhere.
Um, coming back after 15 years,just for it to be like a
sanitized um hollow shell of itsformer glory, to where I'm like,
oh, I'm sanitized is anexcellent analogy for that.
This is very sanitized, yeah.
(46:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's like I guess Ithe main thing I like about
season two is the fact that theymade uh scanty and knees socks
more involved, like in a waywhere they're still rivals with
Panty and Stalky, but it's morelike sometimes they're friendly
(46:58):
towards each other.
It's like it really depends onthe mood, and then mainly it was
like, okay, now that they'reliving in the um church and
whatnot, it's almost like uhpanty and stocky need a new
rival, duo rival to beef with,and that became Carly S and
Parliur thing.
And uh it's kind of funny howeven in this end of season two,
(47:23):
it's like they didn't reallydie, neither did uh Rhymey,
where it's like, okay, they justgo on on vacation, they just
kind of need to like get theirheads straight, just you know,
go on vacation.
I'm like, really?
That's their punishment, just goon vacation.
Uh what else about the show?
(47:45):
I mean, yeah, now I said prettymuch all I gotta say on the
second season, but not like forthe most part, season one, like
it's it's gonna be go, butseason two is like I don't hate
it because it's just not thesame as season one, though.
SPEAKER_03 (48:05):
I don't hate it, but I can't say I fully like it like
that.
You know, right.
Yeah, it's one of one, like I beI look, I'll I'll say I went the
whole thing without saying this.
I tried to binge it and I fellasleep.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
It did not keep me awake after awhile.
Like I was laughing and then Istopped laughing, and then I
literally fell asleep.
It did happen.
Just be honest.
That's why I was like, Yeah.
(48:26):
That's all I got.
I don't have anything else, soI'm I'm I'm done.
SPEAKER_00 (48:30):
Yeah, that's it.
So you got anything you want toadd on?
SPEAKER_02 (48:33):
Uh I agree.
I tried to watch it, all I wasthere for was the transformation
scenes, and that kind of justwent out from one ear to the
other.
Transformation scenes havealways been my cup of tea,
anyhow.
So that was that was it.
SPEAKER_01 (48:48):
Yeah, that's it.
Oh, yeah.
I almost forgot before I umforget.
I do like the musical numbers.
Like, okay, the new theme songis okay, but let's be honest
that um the first I mean not theopening theme song for the
season was, but more like theirtheme song, you know, anarchy,
(49:09):
you know, that type of shit.
Like, I like how that goes on inthe background every now and
then.
And then they had a fullepisode.
Well, not a full episode, morelike you know how Panty Stalking
with Gardevelt.
Um, they have like there's likeshort form anime, but it's like
(49:30):
they mash up two or three shortepisodes into one standard size
episode, and they had the wholemusic video episode with that
song, and I thought that wasjust so cool.
But see, if anything, it's likethat theme song, the anarchy
theme song.
SPEAKER_02 (49:49):
The theme city rock, that's where the anarchy I
remember that music video cameout.
SPEAKER_01 (49:55):
Oh my gosh, that's like the most iconic thing that
this series done.
And because when I think ofPanny and Stalking, I'm thinking
of that theme song, especiallywith them like blasting ghosts
and whatnot.
And that's the crazy part.
Like, you can tell it's a studiotrigger production with the
(50:17):
accent, where it's like it justfeels like high octane random
bullshit happening.
Like it just got that same kindof style.
Like, once again, if you watchKill a Kill, uh Girlin' Guns,
Face Cop Luaco, you'll be like,Yeah, you can tell this is a
studio trigger joint.
(50:41):
Oh, yeah, um, Darling LePron,that's also a studio trigger
joint.
And I'm like, Yeah, sometimeswith that anime, it uh gets a
little weird.
But um, rating time.
I want to say overall, if I'mcounting for season two.
unknown (51:05):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (51:06):
Okay, okay, that's fair enough.
I'm about to say for the wholething, I'm like, whoa, hold on,
like, damn, it took that big ofa dip.
But oh shit.
Yeah, a six sounds about rightwith season two.
It that's crazy how you saidthat you fell asleep on it
because that's how I felt when Iwas watching Ugly Mug Epic
Fighter, where I'm like, peoplewere saying, oh, it's kind of
(51:29):
good, but not gonna lie.
Aside from the premise, it'sokay.
Like, I'll I'll go into detailwhen I do anime lightning, but I
almost felt the same way aboutpainting and stocking with Gardy
Belt season two.
Uh, where it just felt like,man, I mean, like, outside of uh
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the boys being introduced, like,usually when they get involved,
like, okay, like I probably needto pay attention to something
plot-related shows, though.
But outside of that, it's likethey weren't really doing much.
It's just almost like eitheryour typical uh one-shot
(52:13):
bullshit or some sort ofreference to some pop culture.
We know, like I've said before,with like they did a
Transformers parody.
They um Garterbelt's backstory,or I want to say I think it's
like a false backstory just tohide the fact that he likes
bondage.
Uh, his backstory was like basedoff Scarface, so so it's like
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there's a whole bunch ofparodies and whatnot.
So I'm like, on its own, it'slike okay, like it's
entertaining if it's like one ofthose things where you just turn
your brain up and like have alaugh at it.
But all right, rating.
Uh I would say season one isdefinitely a nine for me.
(53:02):
And season two about a six, justlike what Cookie got success.
So I'm gonna say it levels outto uh I wanna say an eight.
Yeah, let's go with that.
SPEAKER_02 (53:18):
How you feeling, so season two was definitely a
solid eight for me.
It's it's a classic anime,classical magical girls, muddy
uh uh anime.
I loved it, shouldn't havewatched as a kid.
Season two, unfortunately.
I have to go down with a low,low four, which brings me down
to a whole anime.
(53:40):
Number six.
If we didn't make season two, Iwould have been fine.
I uh for me, I didn't need aseason two, I was fine with
season one itself.
SPEAKER_01 (53:51):
That's like how some people were saying about
Cyberpunk Edge Runners, wherethey were kind of expecting a
season two, even though they'regonna do like a spin-off series,
like a different story, but notrelated to Edge Runners.
But I'm saying like betweenCeropunk Edge Runners and uh the
Scott Pilgrim show, uh ScottPilgrim takes off on Netflix,
(54:12):
between those two shows, it'slike you don't even need a
season two.
It's like perfect, beautiful,done, cool, cool, cool.
I like that's a good note to endit off on.
Like, even though with uh ScottPilgrim takes off, like okay,
it's like fairly good ending.
(54:32):
And Cerepunk Edge runners, yeah,it's sad, but you know, at least
it's an ending.
Like, not all endings gotta beon a happy note, but it's an
ending.
Like on how we felt aboutsamurai champions, where in the
end they didn't even really uhwell they kind of did find uh
(54:54):
samurai that smelled likesoftware, but that was what the
point the whole point being isthat at the end they just all
just went their separate waysand that's it.
And I'm like, sometimes endingdon't have to be like the happy,
sappy ending, but at least it'sa ending versus you ending a
(55:16):
story on a cliphanger, hopinghoping that it gets a second
season or another season, andI'm like the new season wasn't
even all that worth it to beginwith.
Yeah.
Alright, well, let's go aheadand close up this review.
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Uh hope you guys soon savvy.
Thank you for being on the show.
Uh, dear listener, thank you forlistening to us to the end.
Go ahead and have yourself agood morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good night, butultimately take it easy.
Remember that great things arecoming and stay nerdy.
Let's go ahead and zone up outof here, gang.
What up gang?
Let's talk about Penny andStalking with Carter Belt and
the new season that came outthis year.
What can I say?
What can I say?
Rewatching season one, it justbrought up old memories of how
like I used to watch this showwhen I like I won't say a baby
(00:22):
weed, but more like I was goingthrough my self-discovery phase.
Well, how can I put this?
Uh it's like after the goldenage of Tsunami, and it got to a
point to where if you want towatch new anime, you might as
well just uh go online and tryto find some site to watch new
anime.
And painting and stocking has tobe one of those shows where I'm
(00:44):
like, okay, I never heard ofthis anime.
Well, that's the crazy thing.
SPEAKER_03 (00:50):
Adult cartoon.
SPEAKER_01 (00:51):
Yeah, like it looks like an adult cartoon, but it
feels like especially consideredthat Gynax, the same people
behind Girl and the Gone, wasbehind the first season, but you
know, after the big split atGynex, um, that's how Studio
Trigger was formed, and nowPanny and Stalking is under
Studio Trigger.
(01:12):
So, in a way, like especiallywith season two, uh, if you've
seen Kill of Kill and Girl andGun and uh especially Space Cup
Luco, which is like this shortversion, short anime, and it got
even had a fucking parody tothat anime, too.
That's how you can tell, like,okay, that's how you can tell
this is a studio triggerproduction.
(01:34):
Uh but it just feels like ananime, like it's it looks like
an adult cartoon, but it feelslike an anime at times, like
especially with this secondseason where it had like the
anime tropes here and there, youknow, like with the some of the
ghosts passing on and whatnot,it's like that tearful anime
type scene.
(01:56):
I'm like, okay, okay.
Like so, yeah, adult cartoon,but kind of feels like anime
too.
But outside of that, it's funny.
It is funny, like they got somegreat references.
Like, hey, they didTransformers, they did Star
Wars.
I was geeking out when they dida Magic the Gathering episode,
(02:21):
and outside of all that, thewhole show just feels like one
big sex, it's like just sexualin the window everywhere, and
I'm not complaining too muchabout it.
It's just that's pretty much it.
It's like mainly uh pantygetting her rocks up with some
(02:43):
dudes, stalking eating somesweets, Garabell having his
Cedric Kinks and uh you have theDemon Sisters, you have their
cousins, or not the Demon'scousins, but uh panting stocking
cousins um coming up as rivals.
(03:06):
It's almost like randomshenanigans up until they decide
to throw a little bit of quietin it.
But uh Kobe Gasu, Sebie Phantom,I do thank you for being on for
this review.
Let's start with Sebi.
How are you feeling about pantyand stock with Garter Belt?
(03:27):
Since Kobe Gasu is gonna grillme for no, you gotta see the
whole thing.
SPEAKER_02 (03:35):
So I have to go.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
You gotta say garter belt.
SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
I have to say with the garter belt.
SPEAKER_01 (03:40):
Yeah, you gotta see the whole thing.
SPEAKER_03 (03:42):
Oh my god, you gotta say the whole thing.
Okay, well like a pimp namedSlipbat.
SPEAKER_02 (03:47):
Stop I remember when you know little little
12-year-old me watching thoseanime music videos, and these
two transformation videos justpop up on some random rock and
roll song, and I'm like, what isthis anime?
And had to download funanimation to watch this stuff at
(04:10):
the time.
This this is definitely achildhood.
Shouldn't have been watching itat that age, but it definitely
introduced me to the wholemagical girl life.
SPEAKER_01 (04:23):
That's crazy too, because in a way, painting
stalking just feels likesomething straight from
Newgrounds.
SPEAKER_02 (04:30):
Y'all remember I remember playing all the
Newground.
Don't even get started on that.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
SPEAKER_03 (04:37):
That's gonna be a whole after dark segment,
nostalgia episode, Newgrounds.
That's gonna be a whole thing initself.
SPEAKER_01 (04:43):
Hey, you know what?
I need to write that down.
I'm gonna write that down.
SPEAKER_02 (04:47):
Because not to go off on something random, but
Newgrounds was like aneye-opening thing that I
shouldn't have been on either.
But I like this anime.
I remember first season that wasnostalgia, watching that one
over, and then coming into thesecond season.
I'm a little iffy on the secondseason, I'm not gonna lie to
(05:10):
you.
With someone growing up withcompanions talking as original
voice actors coming on to thesecond season.
I was like, I don't know how Ifeel about it, but I got used to
it.
I like it.
More towards the first seasonthan the second season, to be
fair.
SPEAKER_01 (05:30):
Okay, we're gonna call it New Grounds and Mature
Gaming.
SPEAKER_04 (05:35):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (05:41):
Alright.
So look for me onto Penny andStalking, I agree a lot of
things with Messi for the samefor me.
So I found penny and stalking intwo different ways.
One, it was when it was firstannounced, it was one of those
secret announced um shows.
It's like, oh, you gotta watchthis type of thing.
And I'm like, I don't sure ifI'm gonna watch it.
I watched it.
I actually reason I watched itwas because I was tricked into
(06:01):
watching it, okay.
During the time when Penny andStalking came out, was the same
time that Cartoon Network hadhigh high puffy.
Okay, yes, I mean, you mean yes,especially when finding out
those two girls are the are theones that did the um the song
for Teen Titans Go.
I was uh all into it, loved it,absolutely love the show.
(06:22):
So I'm still upset at how theycanceled it.
I'm like, why would you do that?
But that was like a trope thatthey were doing at the time.
It was two power two magicalgirls, one is bubbly, one is
edgy.
You know, it's the same forpenny and stocking, and then you
have their male um like malemanager that was taking care of
it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:41):
Would you say Panny is bubbly though?
SPEAKER_02 (06:44):
Yeah, I I I would at least in her own way in her own
way, in her own way, in her ownway, she is.
SPEAKER_03 (06:50):
She be popping with these dudes like like pills, she
popping dudes like pills, younotice.
And being an angel, she can'tget an STD, so it and she can't
get pregnant, so she doesn'teven care for her.
It's free roam of everything,which is good lord.
Worst combination, anyway.
So yeah, I agree.
I I shouldn't have been watchingit, but I was tricked into
watching it because I can'tremember the dude's name.
(07:12):
I only remember his gamer tag.
Anyway, is the fact that he toldme he was like, yo, yo, you
gotta watch this.
He said, it's just like how Ihad Foxyama Yumi, but better.
And I said, for real?
SPEAKER_01 (07:22):
And that's how I got caught.
First of all, it feels like oneof those things where like I
think I wore the wrong um show.
Like, you know, like I thoughtthis was supposed to be um Pokey
Yama Yumi.
Um, second of all, it's like itit kind of gives off the same
trolling as when some peoplelike that recommend shit like uh
uh what was it?
Poku no pico and Yosuka no Sora.
(07:46):
And I'm sitting like, what theokay, and then the more you hear
people like recommending it, I'mlike, oh okay.
So it's one of those trollthings where like you just want
to traumatize some people orsome shit.
SPEAKER_03 (07:58):
And I I was not traumatized, but it was
definitely very eye-opening.
And so I was like, oh my god,um, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (08:04):
Sexual awakening.
SPEAKER_03 (08:07):
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I kind of was we
we've had I've had a wholesegment before that.
I was waking earlier, it wasjust one that I was like not
prepared at that moment to bewatching, so I was like, oh my
god, but I enjoyed it, it was sostupid hilarious.
And Messi, I fully agree withyou about um season one and
season two.
So here's the thing because Italked about this with um JB
even before this, is the factseason two um is still wild
(08:31):
nonsense, but if you notice itis toned down a lot more.
There's a particular reason forit, is because not just cancel
culture but all the bullshitthat's going on right now.
Like, for example, there are nojokes about guard, there's no
jokes about Gardebelt um beingthe pedal priest papy in season
two, like at all.
He does not make moves, he's notmaking moves on briefs in season
(08:53):
one.
He was always making a move onbriefs.
That was every single episode,exactly, because it was part of
the joke, is the fact that he'sthe priest that's got not going
after the young boy.
You a young boy, I like that.
That became a whole thing.
Well, you know, it's it's aware,it's more aware now that that is
what happens to a lot of boys.
They were unfortunately takenadvantage of by a lot of these
(09:16):
fake priests that callthemselves Pete Priests and
stuff, and they would do thesethings, and so because of that,
it's no longer funny anymore, sothey removed that joke.
I fully understand that, butbecause there's so much of that
happening now, so much sexualtrauma that goes around now,
sexual jokes are not as funnyanymore, so it has to be toned
down a lot.
So, because of that is why likeseason two, it's doesn't seem as
(09:39):
funny anymore because we'releaning from the extremely
over-sexualized, over justover-the-top drama to it being
toned down, and to try to keepthings funny, we're gonna drop
cameo after cameo after cameo,we're gonna make the cameos
funny, we're gonna make fun ofall these different shows.
It's like it's like whathappened was is that season two
(10:01):
for me uh turned into South Parkin a sense.
Oh, you know what's crazy?
SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Yeah, now uh you want to know what's crazy?
Uh there is one of the guys whoprovided the initial idea for
the series, you know, while GuyNash was like going on vacation,
they were getting drunk and likeuh doing a whole bunch of uh
shit.
They were like uh spitballingideas for a new uh anime.
(10:31):
And the crazy thing is, one ofthe guys was like, hey, you know
what?
Let's make an anime just likedrawn together.
Like literally, you you can uhlook it up.
Like they pretty much use drawntogether as an inspiration for
the crudeness of this show.
SPEAKER_03 (10:49):
I love that.
You can definitely see that.
You can definitely see that.
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Like that was so fucking funny, but like once
again, it's one of those showswhere I'm like, bro, it would
not survive in today's function.
SPEAKER_03 (11:01):
Think about it this way.
Like, for example, a lot ofpeople know Stan Lee is well
known for Marvel and stuff likethat, but most people don't know
about Stan Lee's secret projectsthat he did that next part with
it.
SPEAKER_04 (11:11):
Striparella.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
But yeah, Stripperella.
The first I watched Striparellaonce I was at Comedy Central
after dark.
And I was like, is a superherowho's a stripper?
It is.
I'm watching.
Like I was again, another showas I am a 10-year-old kid who
should not be watching this, butI'm gonna watch it.
(11:32):
Um look, our generation isintroduced to a whole lot of
shit.
SPEAKER_02 (11:36):
Like what are you talking about?
My me in my room underneath myblanket, my DSI playing this
show because I had access tofree internet at the time.
SPEAKER_03 (11:47):
Oh yes.
Having access to my neighbor'sWi-Fi, biggest mistake, bro.
I was I was into every damnthing possible.
I was that was my firstexperience with the dark web.
Anyway, and co figure, weactually have jokes on the dark
web even on pain stock.
Penny stocking picks on thingslike that too, about literally
getting exposed to stuff early.
That's the whole thing forBriefs, the fact that he was
(12:07):
exposed early thanks to you knowPanty.
I actually really liked theshow, the concept of the show
based upon how the charactersare.
The one thing I reallyappreciated for season two was
getting more incorporation ofthe Demon Sisters.
Anti and Nishawks are my fuckingfavorite characters of the
entire series.
I love them in season onebecause whenever they showed, it
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was like the way they showed upin season one was like when the
rowdy rough boys would show upthe power up girls.
As soon as you heard it wasabout to get fucked, he was
like, Oh, damn.
The rowdy rough boys showed up.
Oh, that means the girls aboutto have a time right now, it's
about to get crazy.
Because every single time theyshowed up, they would give the
girls the hardest damn troubleuntil they could finally find a
(12:51):
way to like beat them, type ofthing.
And it's like every single time,it was like damn, it wasn't it
on the same scale of GreenRanger showing up and fighting
Morphin, but damn near close.
As soon as they show up, youknow, some shit was about to pop
off.
And it was the same thing forscanty knee socks.
As soon as they showed up, Pantyand Stock and was like, Oh my
god, not you two again.
(13:11):
Like, why has it gotta be you?
I'd rather fight another ghost,another demon, whatever.
But I hate fighting y'all.
It was like just it was amazingseeing it.
Then, of course, you know,Scanty is you know, Scanty and
Nislocks are like the proper,the nice, the high class
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versions and stuff like that.
Oh, we're demons, but we holdourselves to a high standard,
and it's like the wholereversal.
Like you would expect the wayPanty and Stalking are acting to
be like, oh, you're fallenangels.
Yeah, I can see that.
Y'all act like fallen angels anddemons versus these rising
demons.
That's like y'all act more likewhat we'd expect angels to act
like.
SPEAKER_01 (13:51):
Man, it kind of crazy how like Panty and
Stalking kind of did it a whileago before Hello Boss and uh
Hashman Hotel, where it justseemed like uh oh, the angels
and whatnot are that um pure.
And meanwhile, the demons arelike, okay, they're demons and
they're like degenerates, but atleast they're honest about being
(14:12):
degenerates.
Hey, as the group in this case,they're more proper in this one.
Where it's like, wow, like crazyhow like the demons are asking
the more appropriate one, whilethe angels are like um party
boys and party girls just havingorigins and shit.
SPEAKER_03 (14:31):
Look, as the um as as the the group philosopher, as
well as also because here's thething, I am Christian, but I'm
also I'm a Christian that likepays attention to a lot of other
stuff.
I look at all other religions.
I have read a lot of those otherbooks, I looked at a whole so
many different things, okay?
So understand this.
Uh, because the series isprimarily based with the
Christianity belief, just likeHell of a Boss and Um and Hasman
(14:54):
O'Tell is actually heavily basedmore on the on Christianity, but
it's also that moment ofunderstanding that yes, uh a
couple books of the Bible wasremoved.
Most people kind of most peopleknow this now, but what you
don't understand is that inthose books, angels are horny
ass motherfuckers.
Like most of the shit that wouldhappen is the fact that angels
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would look down and be like,damn, that's a fine motherfucker
right there, and then make halfangel babies and all types of
shit would happen.
And I kid you not, the same shitthat we blame that you would
blame Zeus for, then you'd belike, oh man, Zeus was horny as
hell, type of shit.
Yeah, congratulations.
That's actually how the angelswere.
They weren't that horny assmotherfucker.
(15:36):
They would come down just to doshit.
Just because and the funny thingabout it is that the demons
would actually not be fucked.
The demons only show up just tofuck with people, type of thing.
Oh, we're just here to to raisehell, like how Scanty and Nitox
were.
Like if they show up, they wouldjust raise hell, type of thing,
versus Penny Stalking wouldcause hell every time they
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showed up.
It's believe it or not, thatactually is based upon the
actual religion, based upon theactual stories.
And that's why the CatholicChurch removed those stories
because they're like, no, we'renot we're gonna remove those.
No, you go back and read those,it's some crazy shit that
happened.
But it's like, yeah, no, thisthis is actually almost
biblically accurate.
The only difference is the factthat they look human, you know.
(16:21):
Angels didn't look that human,they were just like jumping.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
Yeah, it's like, don't fear me, child.
I'm like, um, can you like fixthat?
Like, if anything, it's morelike I'm not afraid, you just
very hard to look at.
SPEAKER_03 (16:44):
But no, so yeah, it's it's hilarious on that.
But that's also one again.
Like I love scanty Nissocks intheir characters.
I like that we get more of acorporation of them.
Like you also mentioned tooNissocks having the job that she
works at the um the comic bookstore with the the cars and the
sales and they have the magicgathering episode, and Panty's
like all into this because sheneeds to pay back this debt.
(17:04):
Because it's like, oh my god, Ican't.
You're telling me that I can'tum I can't just call guys and
it's just gonna show up wheneveranymore.
Is it no?
Uh I will say, so I was verycurious at the very beginning of
the series.
I wasn't with the way that Pantyand Stalking ended, and then it
was announced that the serieswas done, they were not gonna
(17:26):
come back.
I was so pissed off because youwas like, How the hell you gonna
end it with fucking uh stalkingslicing up panty and then be
like, oh, I'm a demon, and thendirts away, and you're like
that.
You're just gonna end the serieslike that.
And I'm like, So how are yougonna explain that?
I'm actually very curious howy'all felt about that
explanation.
To me, it was kind of like itwas okay, I'll accept it, but it
(17:49):
definitely wasn't one that Ikind of was gonna say I was
happy about.
About the whole, oh, it's alittle brain worm that we put in
I put in her brain and justsaying over and over again, I'm
a demon.
So she thinks that she is.
And I was like, really?
SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Honestly, once again, like we just did the Kai
G number eight review at thispoint.
Uh, it it kind of gives me thatsame vibe to where it just feels
like you uh left it off on thiscliffhanger, and you're just
kind of not expecting anyone touh want a second season from
that.
(18:23):
It's like you're just kind of uhhinging that cliffhanger on a
new season to be produced, butit's like you're not telling us
any plans to make a secondseason, so I I don't really know
how to feel about that.
Like uh, I I'm kind of glad theybrought it back because not
gonna lie, I completely forgotthat's how they ended season one
(18:44):
off until I dove back into ittrying to prepare for season
two, and I'm like, whoa, holdon, like, keep in mind that uh
the first season, what was thatback in 2010?
That was 15 years ago.
Like, I did not remember itending off that.
(19:06):
I know, like, that's the funnything about brief, to where
brief is just there until theplot demands that he needs to
serve some sort of purpose, soit's like he just kind of like
that sidekick character that'ssent thing for panty, up until
okay, you're finally useful forsomething.
(19:27):
Magical dick energy.
Yeah, like I remember that withhis magical dick energy, um,
trying to save um panty andwhatnot, but I completely forgot
that's how they ended it offright there.
Like they just sliced her up, umswiped up panty saying, Oh, I'm
gonna eat and just ran off.
I'm like, what the fuck is goingon?
(19:49):
Uh I'm like well, damn near 50.
Oh man, I was almost about to gofull syndrome, whereas like too
late 15 years too late.
But like just imagine uh if wejust stopped caring about
(20:09):
panning and stock and buy then.
I was like, Well, too late.
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (20:15):
That's kind of what happened to me.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
Your last episode of season onekind of felt like a cop-out to
me.
Like, you're just gonna end itlike that.
Well, thanks a lot for nothing.
I love again, I love it, butagain, at the same time, it's
like 15 years went by.
I have season one syndrome allover this thing, like the rest
(20:39):
of my Orange High School HostClub, not gonna talk about that.
Um, I'm just gonna forget aboutit, I'm not gonna see it again,
and then all of a sudden, 15years later, I'm now an adult,
and I'm like, okay, we'regetting a season two of Panny
and Stocking.
Like, hello, like, okay, I guesswe're exactly gonna go back and
(21:03):
watch season one all over again,fall in love with it, and then
season two.
Uh again, I just kind of feltlike uh kind of dropped off the
face of the earth for me.
It's like it's to me it's like aone-shot anime almost.
You watch it all the waythrough, and then you just kind
of end it on the last episode,like, okay, I watched it.
(21:24):
But it's so good at the sametime.
SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
It has wonderful moments that is like, okay, this
is hilarious.
Um, I mean, that's that's prettymuch how I felt like I do.
That's how I felt about seasontwo was the fact, okay.
I understand the point of youhad to remove some of the main
jokes.
I get that.
Um, to me, that now becomes apoint of was it worth it to make
a season two when your thiswhole series is based on these
(21:50):
overly sexualized jokes that nowyou have to get rid of.
You know what it is?
SPEAKER_01 (21:55):
It's like because they can't get away with all
those different sex jokes andwhatnot, it's more like it went
from being uh well like, youknow, like with Rick and Morty,
where most of the um episodes inthat scene is like uh not really
uh scripted or serialized or notcanonical.
(22:15):
That's the thing, it's like theymade season two more canonical,
where it's like, okay, you havethe demon sisters uh living with
Panty and Stocking uh withGardeville after you know the
whole shit that went down withCorset, where it's like, okay,
they're homeless, so they needto uh they just pretty much uh
sharing that truth with them.
(22:37):
And then you have the angelbrothers, uh polyester and par
your thing, which is funnybecause they talk like how Gen Z
and Gen Alpha talk nowadays, andI want to say it's kind of funny
up until they say low-key alittle too much, like at least
(22:57):
switch it up by saying high keyor on key.
I'm like, okay, that's notaccurate.
SPEAKER_03 (23:03):
Like, no, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I have I have a daughter that'sJen Alpha.
Low-key is said 56 times in a 15sentence, in the 15 word
sentence.
It is it is absolutely accurate.
It is said that damn much.
I I promise you, that is and asaggravating as it feels, it's
(23:25):
just let's be honest, we'remillennials.
This that's the main reason whyZen Z didn't out perplex me.
SPEAKER_01 (23:37):
Y'all perplex me.
SPEAKER_02 (23:39):
Can I be considered millennials?
Can I just be considered as amillennial at this point?
Because, like, technically I'mpart of Gen Z, but that's beside
the point.
SPEAKER_03 (23:50):
Uh look, Gen Z and millennials are pretty much
about the same.
Is there's like so there's thislittle pool between like the end
of Gen Z, that like thebeginning of Gen Z and the end
of millennials.
That's technically you're both.
It's like the like astralscience type of thing.
If you fit in that windowbetween, then you're both.
Who cares?
SPEAKER_01 (24:08):
I just it's like it's like being a 90s kid to
where you're like you grew up onold school, but you're also
young enough to kind of followthe new school.
I'm I can kind of keep up withy'all, but y'all kind of losing
me with the dumb shit.
SPEAKER_03 (24:26):
Skippity toilet.
Right.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?
SPEAKER_02 (24:32):
So to me again, with going back to panty and
stalking, it's like taking highschool dxd, remastering it
today, and just cutting out allthe nudity.
Season two.
SPEAKER_03 (24:43):
Yeah, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, nude.
So that's one thing about it.
Like season two has nothing butnudity.
SPEAKER_02 (24:48):
No, I understand that, but it's like taking away
their ecci, like completely,just disappearing.
Okay.
I mean, that's what it feelslike to me.
Like if high school dxd came outremastered, like brand new, like
kind of like how Fruits Basketsdid their remastered version of
it.
It's the same thing, justdifferent artwork.
(25:09):
If they if they came out with ittoday, I feel like a lot of
people.
I I feel like they would takeaway a lot of different aspects
of it because I got into aheated debate a couple of years
ago in regards to high schooldxd.
It's one of my all-time favoriteedgy things, but I got into a
very heated argument withsomebody at a Comic-Con one year
(25:32):
and about like ages, whatever.
I feel like that's kind of whatwould happen if high school DXD
came out now.
SPEAKER_03 (25:44):
I mean, right.
Yeah, high school DSD has beenlike remastered, as uh not
remastered it, like the newseasons that keep coming out.
I will say do feel a littlelackluster from the previous.
It's one of the ones thatsurprisingly have not picked up
the manga for it.
I don't know why, but themanga's nice.
SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
Yeah, that's the crazy thing about high school D
uh D by D because like itdespite the uh sexual jokes, the
world building is what reallygrips you because like you have
all these real well like uhthese uh noticeable deities,
like hell, like if um the animekept going, you would have found
(26:23):
out that oh yeah, like uh Jesus,the Jesus had like this weapon
that could have wiped out uhhell, heaven, all this is.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
I'm like, so when we gonna getinto season five, like uh season
five?
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
It goes back to that whole yeah, heaven is good, bad,
good, hell is shit.
SPEAKER_03 (26:49):
And then and then they incorporate like every
mythology into it, like youknow, someone call shows up and
he was just like, I don't care,I just want to fight people.
He's like, No, you're supposedto be like the one of the higher
hierarchies of heaven, likeseriously.
Um, now I want to mention I Ihave to mention this because I
have to.
You want to mess with me aboutthe fact that I haven't said
that I was saying you gotta sayPenny Socky with Gardebell, you
gotta include him into it, butyou still to this day, we have
(27:12):
done how many reviews of highschool DXD, and you still gotta
say D by D.
You can't say DXD, that's stilla thing for you.
SPEAKER_02 (27:20):
Yeah, you're saying can I say that I didn't really
get a lot of Garter Belt?
I mean, he was in season two,but I felt like I didn't get I
guess that's where that wholecancel culture comes in.
I feel like I didn't get a lotof him.
SPEAKER_03 (27:39):
No, he he was removed.
That's the thing.
That's what I was saying.
His whole thing is based uponhim being the the sexualized
priest and stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (27:48):
And this was the brave report.
I kind of glossed over thatelement where like uh I thought
he was like just being friendlytowards Brie Bike.
Oh wait, I was not thinking I'llbe like that.
SPEAKER_03 (28:03):
It was intense nonsense.
So, yeah, because of that,that's his whole writing.
All of season one, when you payattention to it, his writing is
only two things he's eithergiving panty and stalking orders
and yelling at them about beinglazy and shit, or constantly
over sexualizing over briefs.
So when you remove that, thatone segment, and you realize the
fact that a good portion of himis him constantly making
(28:25):
advancements at briefs at everygiven moment, and you remove
that, you realize that heactually does not have much for
character development in seasontwo because they've just removed
that whole thing for him, andit's like, dang.
And so you kind of figure outlike what would you do?
SPEAKER_01 (28:41):
Well, another thing about Gardeville that I know is
how it seemed like he's tryingto really hard to try to bribe
himself into having like tryingto piss up to uh the king of a
king um panty and stocking.
Um but that's the crazy part ofthe words, like I feel like I
(29:02):
I'm pretty sure that this wasn'teven alluded to in season one.
But to find out that, oh,they're not just um fallen
angels that was banished fromheaven for um some bullshit, but
they were the daughters of theking and queen of heaven.
And they also had this uncle whowas like fought against um all
(29:26):
of them, with um polyester andparty your thing being uh his
sons, but uh crazy enough, likeuh oh, they aren't allowed to
call him father, uh they justcall him your highness and
whatnot.
And then they got that one timewhere, like, eh, you can call me
(29:47):
father design.
All right, we're we're almostgonna win, so you might as well
just I'm feeling so good.
Like, y'all can call me fatherif you want to.
But no, no, no.
It's like It's like Gordobell istrying to kiss up to all these
folks, trying to um buy his he'sliterally trying to buy his way
into heaven.
(30:08):
And it's funny, but alsopredictable how when he tried to
do the same thing, Brie andChuck did to like kind of kill
himself, uh, thanks to Gunsmithbitch uh helping them out.
And Gardeville also took that uhconcoction to kill himself so he
(30:32):
can hopefully uh get back intoheaven, and then he ended up
going to hell with uh the Dina'ssister.
And I'm like, Yep, that wasdeserved.
I don't even feel me.
I was like, I was kind oflaughing, but like, ha ha ha ha
ha, you thought you were goingto heaven, the way you're trying
to buy your way to heaven.
SPEAKER_03 (30:52):
Look, the way Gardevelt was doing, he was
either gonna go to hell or go tolimbo.
That was gonna be a thing.
And from my understanding, therethere is no limbo in the series,
so it kept us pretty much still.
SPEAKER_01 (31:03):
Yeah.
Or it could have been one ofthose things where um Earth is
actually the real limbo towhere, oh, if you die, you just
get reincarnated.
I'm like, no, I don't want to behere, like taping to heaven.
Like, nope.
Like just imagine can youimagine um being reincarnated on
on earth being worse than goingto hell?
SPEAKER_02 (31:26):
I feel like that kind of Satan City is kind of
the heaven to hell thing.
SPEAKER_03 (31:33):
Yeah.
I mean, think about it like howmany people keep coming back as
ghosts, like constantly, andthey're unable to move on, type
of thing.
I think that's pretty much whatit is.
Like your soul is stuck there.
This might be pretty much thisis just a limbo.
Like they didn't actually go toEarth.
This is just a segment of Earththat's been cut off from the
rest of the world, type ofthing, and it's not because even
(31:53):
the news segments, the newssegments never talk about the
earth being destroyed, it's justthat city.
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
The state and city, exactly.
SPEAKER_03 (31:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:00):
Another thing, just to tuck off of Garter Belt, is
this is nothing against DanielWalton.
I think he's a really greatvoice actor.
Um, and this might be a littlecontroversial.
I don't think he gave GarterBelt justice to me.
And not to say ChristopherSokbault back in season one.
That's all my that's he plays alot of different guys, but I
(32:21):
just feel like we're I don'tthink we got the same, like
Garter, like I'm not saying ithas to be the same Gardevelt,
but I just don't think I gotthat full-on, like, yeah, this
is Gardevelt.
This is the guy I remember.
But again, I guess that's whereit comes down to a lot of I
(32:46):
don't want to say the wrongthing here, but I think that's
where a lot of of that wholecancel culture characters and
voice actors kind of starting tomix together instead of let's
find the perfect voice percharacter.
I I I guess I'm not saying thiscorrectly, to be fair and
honest.
Um pretty much.
(33:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
I I agree with you on to it.
That's how I feel too.
Because it's one of those oneslike now your character's been
his a lot of his lines, a lot ofstuff has been cut out, and he's
not as much of a big presencethere anymore.
So it's one of those ones likedo you take full advantage of
the limited time that you have,or do you just kind of just get
it over with type of thing?
Because anytime that I've done,I've always met I've always
mentioned like a lot of oldpodcasts.
(33:30):
So if your old time listenersknow I do this, or never know I
rate like an actor, an actor,actress, voice actor, voice
actor is always based on threethings.
It's gonna be based onbelievability, it's gonna be
based on writing, and it's gonnabe based on how the voice acting
itself, the afflections andeverything is all that comes
together in different ways.
And so it's like you could havean actor that does fantastic.
(33:52):
As soon as they get on screen,as soon as you hear their voice,
they're like booming out there,like it sells it.
But if it's bad writing, it'snot gonna do anything.
And that's kind of one that kindof hit hard here because yeah,
you're not gonna get the sameguard belt.
And I get what you mean.
You don't want necessarily thesame, it doesn't have to be it's
a whole new season, but youstill gotta have energy, you
(34:12):
still gotta have that feel toit, and it wasn't there, you're
right, but then he he wasn'tpresent.
There's not much every singletime they show a garde belt, he
was doing something sneaky.
It was either he was sneaking orhe was yelling at pinning and
stalking and knee toxic and uhscandy, and that was about it.
So it was like uh you don't seehim much, and then so you only
(34:33):
see him being sneaky.
Can't really give much of theenergy in that.
That's one of the ones I kind ofto me personally, I put down the
writing.
But he said can't be a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (34:47):
It just feels like at this point, since um Garter
Girl is suffering from characterassassination.
I'm kind of looking at that uhtitle and I'm like, I think we
can erase the Garter Girl part.
SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
See, yeah.
Now look, I will I want to if wecan mention a couple things here
into it.
Camp character assassination isa very specific thing to mention
it today because it's one ofthose ones that character
assassination happens veryspecifically onto this.
Okay.
So for example, back with theSpace Jam uh New A New Legacy,
the new one that came the newestone, where Pepe Le Pew, where
(35:26):
they had to completely redo theentire thing to completely cut
out Peppa Pew's scenes becauseof how his character was
written.
His character was written to beconstantly uh sexualizing women,
always just wanting to get withthe um with the cat girl, and
just always just like alwaystrying to do whatever.
And it's like, yeah, okay, he'sover forward, he never accepts a
(35:46):
no as an answer, and he's toomuch.
And like, I fully get that, Ifully get that into it.
And so it became a whole thingwhere it's like, no, we need to
completely remove his character,but it was one of those ones I'm
like, okay, but you have theability to rewrite him instead
of just killing it off.
How about you rewrite him as aperson that says, Hey, you know,
that was a past me.
I used to do a lot of crazythings, and that's not me
(36:07):
anymore.
And I want to and I can provemyself where I'm gonna do better
type of thing.
You have the option to do so, ordo the lazy out and just
character assassinate.
SPEAKER_01 (36:17):
But that's the crazy part where uh when it comes to
like cartoon characters andwhatnot, okay, maybe they he
might get a second chance.
But that's the crazy part aboutcancel culture to where it kind
of doesn't matter uh how longit's been since that was uh in
your past and whatnot.
Some people just feel, oh well,nope.
(36:38):
Uh now that I know that you didall that, I just can't see you
in any better lighting thanthat.
Like yeah, it's like it's justlike nope, I I'm just too stuck
on you doing that that long agoto a point to where they're just
no coming back from that.
It's like you might will juststay cancel and live in a forge
(37:02):
in a log cabin and like justdelete your social media
accounts and shit, like likeyou're not allowed to speak
anymore.
We better not cast you out onthese streets.
SPEAKER_03 (37:16):
That's that's just kind of the thing.
I mean, everyone has a right,you have a right to for
forgiveness, you have a right tonot forgive.
That that is a personal choice,and you fully understand to it.
It's just weird to me aboutcartoon characters.
It's like it's it's a cartoon,though, you know.
Just kind of it's not like thisis an actual person going out
doing evil bad stuff, type ofthing.
Because and another example isthat Johnny Bravo.
(37:38):
I didn't even like you know,cancel culture came hard for
Johnny Bravo.
I didn't realize how hard itwound up coming to the point
that they I did not know thatthey remade the Johnny Bravo
series.
They did, I didn't they did,yeah, they did exactly.
I didn't know that until like itrandomly popped up one time.
I was watching a video thatsomeone was talking about how
cancel culture caused uh changesin characters and stuff, and
(38:01):
yeah, they they redid JohnnyBravo, and it was like, what?
But it was one of those oneswhere just like okay, we're
gonna rewrite the character, andthen they didn't rewrite the
character.
And it was like, why would youit doesn't make sense?
Like you said you were gonnarewrite it, you didn't rewrite
it, and then you're wonderingwhy people still keep coming by
at canceling again for it, andthen the animation was
absolutely trash, it wasn'tfunny, like you took that took
(38:25):
away most of the humor for it.
Johnny's biggest thing about itis the fact that he was he still
thought every single woman wasbeautiful, type of thing.
That's just how he was.
He always came up and be like,Oh, you're beautiful.
I want to come out, I want tocome talk to you, I want to talk
to you, type of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (38:37):
And then he always be ironic beauty to Johnny
Braugo to her, like, hey man,pussy's pussy.
SPEAKER_03 (38:44):
That's the thing for it.
He's like, that's kind of how heis, type of stuff.
And so it's like, okay, butyeah, it was like, wait, you you
redid the okay, so hold on.
You say you're gonna fix it, youdon't fix it, and now you're
more upset about it.
I'm confused.
I'm like, now I'm just kind oflost on things.
It's like so you have theability to rewrite a character
if it's become a problem, and Ithink that is something that can
(39:05):
happen with what could havehappened easily with Guardabelt
as well.
Too, he could have been morepresent, there could have been
more of a rewriting board, therecould have been more things,
more of this, more of that.
There's always something thatyou could change or do better.
It's just that it kind of feltlike I don't know what to do.
We base his whole character onthese jokes of him being um
constantly going after briefsand being overly sexualized with
(39:27):
briefs, and now we have toremove that.
I don't have anything, I don'thave any more use for him.
And then that's when I was like,dang, yep, that's his own
character assassination by thewriters, because they don't know
what else to do.
That's always the scariest thingis making a character that you
don't know what to do with it,and you're like, hmm, you're
kind of just floating in thewind.
SPEAKER_02 (39:49):
Well, unfortunately, sorry.
SPEAKER_03 (39:52):
Oh no, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02 (39:54):
Unfortunately, what I'm seeing is that a lot of the
older animes, a lot of the oldercartoons that showed a bunch of
like sexual innuendos, um, justthings of that nature, I'm
seeing that come back nowadays.
And there's and again, they'reskipping around with it because
the ones they don't want tointeract with cancel culture,
(40:14):
they they're trying to rewriteit, but unfortunately their
writing isn't the best.
It would be like if Ren andStimpy came back today.
SPEAKER_03 (40:22):
What would you think about?
Please no.
Oh god.
SPEAKER_02 (40:28):
I'm just using it as an example.
Like, if we took a sexualizedanime or a cartoon, an adult
film, and brought it back todayand went, we're just gonna take
everything out, and here iscardboard.
SPEAKER_01 (40:43):
Hey, you know what is crazy?
It reminded me of what that whathappened to Clone High, where
it's like, okay, they rebootedClone High, but they had to
practically remove Gandhibecause oh, um, people who uh
revere Gandhi, they don't likethe way he's being represented
in this show.
So it's like either like he hasto be toned down or completely
(41:06):
removed.
So imagine what long they tookto that.
SPEAKER_03 (41:11):
I feel like if you have to rewrite a key character,
just make a whole new series.
SPEAKER_04 (41:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (41:17):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
I mean, then again, we have shit like Dom where they
try to rewrite a whole shit, andthat did not pan out.
SPEAKER_02 (41:27):
Unfortunately, that's the that's the cause and
effect of making a seriesnowadays that was something to
something to now.
You have panning a stocking withstarter belt, and you made it
now, and then you took a lot ofit to juice, and you squeezed it
out and gave it to us.
So a lot of the newer fans agreewith like, oh, this is great,
(41:48):
this is amazing, I love it.
And then a lot of older fanslike us are unfortunately like
there's not spice.
Where's my spice?
It's it's not there.
SPEAKER_03 (42:01):
So people's like, I don't know, season one was kind
of a bit much.
SPEAKER_02 (42:04):
That's the point.
SPEAKER_03 (42:05):
That's the point that's supposed to be a bit
point.
SPEAKER_02 (42:08):
It's like if South Park came into next week's
episode and took Cartman out.
SPEAKER_01 (42:14):
Actually, that's crazy because South Park so far
is still swinging with thejokes, where I'm like, they did
not tone it down at all withintheir 26th run of doing South
Park, almost to a point where,oh, South Park's getting
canceled again because they madea joke about the orange man, and
he didn't like that joke.
So they on my camps, likewhatever, man.
(42:36):
South part gets threatened to becanceled like what 10 times,
like maybe like once every year,whenever they bring out a new
season.
Like, that's it.
It's like once a season.
SPEAKER_03 (42:46):
It's like once a season, like not even once a
season, once every random thinghappens, boom, South Park.
Every other episode is a show.
unknown (42:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (42:54):
I mean, it kind of depends.
Like, sometimes it's like, okay,y'all kind of pushing it, like
it's wrong, like noteworthy.
Like, okay, some people arelike, oh, I didn't like that
guilt they made about me.
But it's not like to a point towhere people were like um trying
to boycott South Park.
It got to a point where thoseboys um making South Park, they
(43:16):
got so used to people trying tocancel them that they straight
up made a whole thing for likeone season, like hashtag cancel
South Park.
Because I'm like, I they werelike, I I wish you would, I wish
you would cancel us.
We're gonna we're gonna cancelourselves.
SPEAKER_02 (43:34):
Matt was they were very smart with what they did.
And if we if the creators hadthe opportunity to go with the
same type of flow with Panny andStocking with Garter Belt, I
gotta say the whole thing.
If they continue to go forwardwith you're welcome, season two,
if they continued going with it,I think they would have had
(43:57):
something.
I think a lot of the older bandswould have actually boosted up
the ratings because I saw theratings.
Half of them that come out of itare great, the other half is
like, this isn't my anime, thisisn't my panty, this isn't my
stocking.
If they continued to go with thesame flow as they did last
season, um again, we could havehad little touch-ups and
(44:20):
everything that they had goingon.
Of course, there's gonna need tobe updating, just like with
anything 15 years ago.
I think we would have I wouldhave enjoyed it a lot more than
what I had.
It's like if drawn together cameout now.
SPEAKER_01 (44:36):
Oh man, that would have been so sanitized.
SPEAKER_02 (44:39):
Exactly.
We wouldn't have had two, wewouldn't, we wouldn't have had
any of the characters.
Let me be fair and honest withyou.
SPEAKER_01 (44:51):
Oh Jesus Christ, just thinking about those
episodes on Draw Together, I'mlike, bro, they were really
pushing that with some things.
But that's what I loved aboutit.
It's like it's like they that'sthe whole point of comedy.
You push the envelope, you tryto test the war, test the
boundaries of what we can laughat.
SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
I think things like Draw Together, Panty and
Stalking, South Park, a coupleof others actually brought
people together rather thanpulling them apart because
people were talking about it.
Twitter's Twitter, or what is itcalled now?
SPEAKER_04 (45:27):
Uh X.
X.
There we go.
X.
SPEAKER_02 (45:30):
X.
People were talking about it.
Did you guys see last episode ofPanty and Stalking with
Gardevelt?
Did you see last episode ofSouth Park?
It got people talking.
And I think that's what we'remissing.
Nobody's talking about it otherthan it came back again.
It came back exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (45:51):
No, no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
It comes off like Star Warsepisode nine, where buddy was
like, somehow Emperor Palpatineis back.
I'm like, okay, how?
Why?
Why now?
Like, uh explain, like, what'sgoing on?
Like, I it kind of like that,where it just felt out of
(46:16):
nowhere.
Um, coming back after 15 years,just for it to be like a
sanitized um hollow shell of itsformer glory, to where I'm like,
oh, I'm sanitized is anexcellent analogy for that.
This is very sanitized, yeah.
(46:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's like I guess Ithe main thing I like about
season two is the fact that theymade uh scanty and knees socks
more involved, like in a waywhere they're still rivals with
Panty and Stalky, but it's morelike sometimes they're friendly
(46:58):
towards each other.
It's like it really depends onthe mood, and then mainly it was
like, okay, now that they'reliving in the um church and
whatnot, it's almost like uhpanty and stocky need a new
rival, duo rival to beef with,and that became Carly S and
Parliur thing.
And uh it's kind of funny howeven in this end of season two,
(47:23):
it's like they didn't reallydie, neither did uh Rhymey,
where it's like, okay, they justgo on on vacation, they just
kind of need to like get theirheads straight, just you know,
go on vacation.
I'm like, really?
That's their punishment, just goon vacation.
Uh what else about the show?
(47:45):
I mean, yeah, now I said prettymuch all I gotta say on the
second season, but not like forthe most part, season one, like
it's it's gonna be go, butseason two is like I don't hate
it because it's just not thesame as season one, though.
SPEAKER_03 (48:05):
I don't hate it, but I can't say I fully like it like
that.
You know, right.
Yeah, it's one of one, like I beI look, I'll I'll say I went the
whole thing without saying this.
I tried to binge it and I fellasleep.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
It did not keep me awake after awhile.
Like I was laughing and then Istopped laughing, and then I
literally fell asleep.
It did happen.
Just be honest.
That's why I was like, Yeah.
(48:26):
That's all I got.
I don't have anything else, soI'm I'm I'm done.
SPEAKER_00 (48:30):
Yeah, that's it.
So you got anything you want toadd on?
SPEAKER_02 (48:33):
Uh I agree.
I tried to watch it, all I wasthere for was the transformation
scenes, and that kind of justwent out from one ear to the
other.
Transformation scenes havealways been my cup of tea,
anyhow.
So that was that was it.
SPEAKER_01 (48:48):
Yeah, that's it.
Oh, yeah.
I almost forgot before I umforget.
I do like the musical numbers.
Like, okay, the new theme songis okay, but let's be honest
that um the first I mean not theopening theme song for the
season was, but more like theirtheme song, you know, anarchy,
(49:09):
you know, that type of shit.
Like, I like how that goes on inthe background every now and
then.
And then they had a fullepisode.
Well, not a full episode, morelike you know how Panty Stalking
with Gardevelt.
Um, they have like there's likeshort form anime, but it's like
(49:30):
they mash up two or three shortepisodes into one standard size
episode, and they had the wholemusic video episode with that
song, and I thought that wasjust so cool.
But see, if anything, it's likethat theme song, the anarchy
theme song.
SPEAKER_02 (49:49):
The theme city rock, that's where the anarchy I
remember that music video cameout.
SPEAKER_01 (49:55):
Oh my gosh, that's like the most iconic thing that
this series done.
And because when I think ofPanny and Stalking, I'm thinking
of that theme song, especiallywith them like blasting ghosts
and whatnot.
And that's the crazy part.
Like, you can tell it's a studiotrigger production with the
(50:17):
accent, where it's like it justfeels like high octane random
bullshit happening.
Like it just got that same kindof style.
Like, once again, if you watchKill a Kill, uh Girlin' Guns,
Face Cop Luaco, you'll be like,Yeah, you can tell this is a
studio trigger joint.
(50:41):
Oh, yeah, um, Darling LePron,that's also a studio trigger
joint.
And I'm like, Yeah, sometimeswith that anime, it uh gets a
little weird.
But um, rating time.
I want to say overall, if I'mcounting for season two.
unknown (51:05):
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (51:06):
Okay, okay, that's fair enough.
I'm about to say for the wholething, I'm like, whoa, hold on,
like, damn, it took that big ofa dip.
But oh shit.
Yeah, a six sounds about rightwith season two.
It that's crazy how you saidthat you fell asleep on it
because that's how I felt when Iwas watching Ugly Mug Epic
Fighter, where I'm like, peoplewere saying, oh, it's kind of
(51:29):
good, but not gonna lie.
Aside from the premise, it'sokay.
Like, I'll I'll go into detailwhen I do anime lightning, but I
almost felt the same way aboutpainting and stocking with Gardy
Belt season two.
Uh, where it just felt like,man, I mean, like, outside of uh
(51:52):
the boys being introduced, like,usually when they get involved,
like, okay, like I probably needto pay attention to something
plot-related shows, though.
But outside of that, it's likethey weren't really doing much.
It's just almost like eitheryour typical uh one-shot
(52:13):
bullshit or some sort ofreference to some pop culture.
We know, like I've said before,with like they did a
Transformers parody.
They um Garterbelt's backstory,or I want to say I think it's
like a false backstory just tohide the fact that he likes
bondage.
Uh, his backstory was like basedoff Scarface, so so it's like
(52:37):
there's a whole bunch ofparodies and whatnot.
So I'm like, on its own, it'slike okay, like it's
entertaining if it's like one ofthose things where you just turn
your brain up and like have alaugh at it.
But all right, rating.
Uh I would say season one isdefinitely a nine for me.
(53:02):
And season two about a six, justlike what Cookie got success.
So I'm gonna say it levels outto uh I wanna say an eight.
Yeah, let's go with that.
SPEAKER_02 (53:18):
How you feeling, so season two was definitely a
solid eight for me.
It's it's a classic anime,classical magical girls, muddy
uh uh anime.
I loved it, shouldn't havewatched as a kid.
Season two, unfortunately.
I have to go down with a low,low four, which brings me down
to a whole anime.
(53:40):
Number six.
If we didn't make season two, Iwould have been fine.
I uh for me, I didn't need aseason two, I was fine with
season one itself.
SPEAKER_01 (53:51):
That's like how some people were saying about
Cyberpunk Edge Runners, wherethey were kind of expecting a
season two, even though they'regonna do like a spin-off series,
like a different story, but notrelated to Edge Runners.
But I'm saying like betweenCeropunk Edge Runners and uh the
Scott Pilgrim show, uh ScottPilgrim takes off on Netflix,
(54:12):
between those two shows, it'slike you don't even need a
season two.
It's like perfect, beautiful,done, cool, cool, cool.
I like that's a good note to endit off on.
Like, even though with uh ScottPilgrim takes off, like okay,
it's like fairly good ending.
(54:32):
And Cerepunk Edge runners, yeah,it's sad, but you know, at least
it's an ending.
Like, not all endings gotta beon a happy note, but it's an
ending.
Like on how we felt aboutsamurai champions, where in the
end they didn't even really uhwell they kind of did find uh
(54:54):
samurai that smelled likesoftware, but that was what the
point the whole point being isthat at the end they just all
just went their separate waysand that's it.
And I'm like, sometimes endingdon't have to be like the happy,
sappy ending, but at least it'sa ending versus you ending a
(55:16):
story on a cliphanger, hopinghoping that it gets a second
season or another season, andI'm like the new season wasn't
even all that worth it to beginwith.
Yeah.
Alright, well, let's go aheadand close up this review.
(55:37):
Uh hope you guys soon savvy.
Thank you for being on the show.
Uh, dear listener, thank you forlistening to us to the end.
Go ahead and have yourself agood morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good night, butultimately take it easy.
Remember that great things arecoming and stay nerdy.
Let's go ahead and zone up outof here, gang.
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