Wednesday (Season 2): A Continuation of Woe

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
all right.
Season two of wednesday is out.
The last four episodes are out.
Uh, honestly, I watched thelast four like as soon as they
dropped, but I was giving acallie some time to get prepared
and I guess if she jumps onthen great.

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But uh, kug, I'm glad thatyou're back on for season two.
But before we get into seasontwo, let's recap season one real
quick.
So previously in season one,wednesday is expelled from her
regular high school and enrolledin Nevermore Academy, a school
for outcasts, where she began toexperience psychic visions.

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She meets her roommate Enid, arival, bianca, other students
like Eugene, rowan and Xavier,along with Principal Weems and
Miss Thornhill.
Wednesday's visions lead to herdiscovering a monster attacking
students and an ancientprophecy suggests that she would
destroy the school.
Our principal weems is revealedto be a ship shifter who

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covered up rowan's death, andwednesday uncovers the secret to
a nightshade society and learnsabout joseph crackstone, the
founder of jericho whopersecuted outcasts, and her
ancestor, good Goody Adams.
Wednesday investigates themonster's lair files, clues
about the victim's missing bodyparts and the suspect's Xavier

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order.
The raven dance takes place andEugene is attacked by the
monster.
Wednesday's father, gomez, isarrested for the murder of
Garrett Gates and later revealedthat Morticia killed Gates in
self-defense and Gates hadattempted to poison the school.
Wednesday discovered thatLaurel Gates faked her death and
is alive.

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She's seeking revenge onNevermore and realized that Miss
Thornhill is Laurel Gates andthe monster's master.
Laurel Gates ends up killingPrincipal Weems and resurrecting
Joseph Crackstone using theBook of Shadows and Wednesday's
blood.
Wednesday, with the help ofGoody Adam's Spirit, enid,
bianca and Eugene defeatsCrackstone and Laurel Gates and

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Nevermore Was closed.
And Wednesday makes peace WithXavier and receives a mysterious
Text while Tyler reveals to methe High is in prison.
That's the short version of thatrecap.
I will say this before wereally get into season two.
I don't know if I'm going tosay this naturally at this point

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, but circling back to Eugene,where I made that joke about him
being like great value, valueNaraku okay, not that, or at
least not yet.
But he's not beating the nerveShino Arborame allegations that

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I made during the last time wetalked about Wednesday when it
comes to season 2, to where hecan now control other books.
But you know, outside of that,I don't think Eugene really did
a whole lot in season two, like,I mean, not that significant,
but he was just kind of therekind of with some characters,

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but now for real, let's get intoseason two.
But of course last time wecalled it a review of Woe, this
time we're calling it acontinuation of Woe, so let's
get into it.
Wednesday flew to Kansas City toapprehend a serial killer known

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for scalping his victims.
Apprehend a serial killer knownfor scalping his victims In the
way back to Nevermore Academy.
We not only see Puzzly gottentaller, but he also can't shoot
lightning from his hands.
Wednesday is now popular forbeing the savior of the school
and she has a stalker watchingher.
Puzzly becomes Eugene'sroommate, who's also gotten

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taller and controlled insectsother than bees.
Now Xavier has been pulled fromNevermore roommate, who also
gotten taller and controlinsects of them bees.
Now Xavier has been pulled fromnever more since he was falsely
accused of murder and is nowenrolled in Reichenbach Academy
in Switzerland.
But we know the real reason.
But you know thebehind-the-scenes reason why
that's he's not in the showanymore.
His father, vincent, alsostepped down from his position,

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which is also how more attentionhas been asked by the new
principal of Dork to be thechair at the Gallup Fundraising
Committee after the previouschair.
Now, before I continue.
I like how it's Steve Buscemithat's principal of Dork,
especially the part where he'slike hello, fellow outcasts, you
know like the meme, like hello,fellow kids.
But I just wanted to mentionthat before I forget.

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Anyways, she also gets to liveclose by, in the same cottage
that miss thornhill was residingin before being arrested last
season, because you know allthat's going on with killing the
principal and the rest of it.
He sent a painting of one ofthe ravens attacking people in
Jericho.
That was Xavier, by the way.

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He sent that to Wednesdaymanuscript at the pyre to
commemorate her and her friends.
Postley sneaks off to the skulltree.
Inspired by the story told byAjax, postley wants to hear the

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sound of the clothwork heart.
A bat spooked him and heaccidentally reanimated the
corpse of the mad genius buriedthere with his lightning.
He names him Slurp for a time.
We're just going to call himSlurp for now.
Wednesday has a vision of Eniddying and she was to blame For
it.
She fainted and woke up inMorticia's quarters.

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Morticia explains to Wednesdaythat the Black Tears are Due to
Wednesday abusing Herclairvoyant powers, like when
Uchiha exerted her shuriken eyes, similar to how what happened
to Morticia's sister Ophelia.
This results in her abilitiesbeing lost temporarily, like she
didn't gain them back.
But you know, you know shegotta like go through right

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channels and whatnot.
Wednesday visits Mr Galpin youknow the former sheriff to find
him dead without his eyes andravens flying out of his mouth,
just like the last victim calledBradford.
Before she could leave, thepolice arrest her, telling her
that the two victims areconnected in a string of murders
by murder crows.

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Wednesday takes Enos' place ina driving test and hides the
vehicle in order to visit TalGalpin in prison.
The stalker managed to knockout Enid and Bruno while
trapping Thing in his box.
While Wednesday rescues thelovebirds, agnes, the superfan,
reveals herself frominvisibility as the stalker

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testing her idol.
At this point forward, I thinkEnid's valid distrust of Enid
was kind of funny like,especially the way it seemed
like oh, she's trying to replaceme as Wednesday's best friend
and she even did the whole WWWDthing, stealing her line and

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whatnot, uh, trying to kill her,which I just thought it was
whole funny uh for the most part.
But uh, where was that withthis?
I think I just kind of scrolledthrough my notes a little too
fast, but let me get back towhere I was supposed to be.
Okay, I got it.

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So Principal Dork turns out heis manipulating Bianca into
using her siren songs for hisagenda, including persuading
Morticia to get her motherHester involved with the gala
like a Jedi with the mind trick.
I also like how the wayWednesday smiles when Grandma

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Hester gets involved, kind oflike the way she smiles at Uncle
Fester.
You know, like family members,that she actually likes.
Slurp ends up escaping and beganeating people, including the
driving instructor.
The more braids he eats, themore he regenerates and gets
smarter.
During the camping trip,nevermore had a competition with

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some Boy Scouts from for thereservation of Camp Jericho for
the weekend.
Even after they lost, thecadets applied to get the land.
Their scout master ended upgetting killed by a slur.
It's gaping again because thepublic keep bringing along with
them.
Like, oh well, we can't justleave him alone.
You know what could happen.
I'm like well, there you goAfter.

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Morticia took Goody's book fromWednesday.
She believes that Goody'sAdam's book is a shortcut that
will lead Wednesday down a darkpath, kind of like the Scarlet
Witch with the Darkhold.
And Wednesday challengedMorticia to blind sword fighting
for she loses.
By the way, ajax eventuallyfinds out that Enid moved on

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from him and started datingBruno.
And when Wednesday loses theduel to Morticia, morticia saves
Wednesday from being eaten by aslur.
Wait, no, no, I got thatbackwards.
Wednesday loses the duel, butshe saves Morticia from being
eaten by a slur my bad, who wasapprehended by the corporate

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authorities and got sent away toWillow Hill.
We learn that Thornhill gottransferred to Willow Hill as Dr
Fairburn's attempt torehabilitate Tyler and almost
died trying.
Grandma Hester finally arrivesand Uncle Fester returns.
While Grandma tries to drive awedge between Wednesday and

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Morticia, fester ends up beingarrested and being sent to
Willow Hill as part ofWednesday's plan to get some
information on Lois and whatnot.
Uh, shit gets crazy at WillardHill as we learn that Lois is a
secret program that keptdeceased quote, unquote outcasts
as living experiments.
And the avian behind the crowattacks well, the raven,

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whatever you want to call itCrow, raven, whatnot.
That was Dr Fairburn'sassistant Judy, who's also the
daughter of Augustus Stoneheart,who started the whole Lois
program and whatnot, and who'sreally pulled the strings at
Woodhill.
Her plan was to make normiesinto outcasts.

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You know like trying to implanttheir abilities into normies,
outcasts.
You know like trying to implanttheir abilities into normies,
kind of like a whole compound Vtype shit.
Thornhill tried to save Tylerin the midst of the chaos but it
backfired and she ends upgetting killed by him.

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Tyler escapes after almostkilling Wednesday.
Slurp kills Dr Fairburn, thenhe kills Thornhurst who he was
familiar with, calling him anold friend, who turns out to be
his mentor.
But I'll explain that in a bit.
After the chaos at Willow Hill,wednesday awoke from her coma to
see Principal Weems who notonly became Wednesday's new

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spirit guide but turns out thatWeems is Wednesday's 13th cousin
, like you know, twice removed,so like distant relative.
And it's kind of funny withWeems and Morticia having their
rivalry it makes it funny, andmore tension having their

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rivalry, that makes it funny.
She also had the displeasure ofbeing treated like a disgrace
to Nevermore because Weems hiredthe woman that ended up
murdering her.
I love that.
Not only did the series find away to bring Weems back, but
it's like Agatha Harknessguiding Billy Maximoff if you've
seen Agatha all along.
It's like Agatha Harknessguiding Billy Maximoff if you've

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seen Agatha all along.
Puzzley and Gomez search forSlurp who may know patient 1938.
Puzzley finds Slurp, lets himescape and Gomez knows that
Slurp escaped.
And we also learn that Gomezknows that Slurp is actually
Isaac Knight, that genius, thatmad genius that died.
I'll explain that in a bit.
Uh, slurp, excuse me.

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Isaac visits Judy, anotherperson that the zombie was
familiar with, and Wednesday andthe Nightshades make plans To
take on Tyler, with Wednesday,planning to control him like
Thornhill did.
Patient 1938 finds Morticiaplans to take on Tyler, with
Wednesday planning to controlhim like Thornhill did.
Patient 1938 finds Morticia, whorecognized her as Francois, an

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old classmate and Tyler's mother.
The plot keeps thickening asthings keep going along.
Wednesday's plan ultimatelyfailed when Francois appeared
and defended Tyler, andWednesday was almost killed if
it wasn't for Matisha arrivingon time.
The two hides end up fleeingafterwards and after practicing

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her ballet alone, enid certainlysuddenly started turning to a
werewolf, but it wasn't a fullmoon Interesting.
Now here's the funniest partabout the whole season how
Wednesday and Enid have a freakyFriday and Wednesday broke the

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Raven's gaze at RosalieRotwood's grave in an attempt to
temporarily have a vision,quote-unquote, advised by
Grandma Hester.
Her relationship becomes morestrained as Enid quote unquote
caught Bruno cheating on her anddumped him.
Meanwhile, wednesday quoteunquote learns about how she

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really feels about Enid with herwritings and what not, and
lashed out in a fast and vibrantway while yelling at and
upsetting Agnes.
Later, isaac Knight turns outto be Tyler's uncle and
Francois' brother.
Morticia becomes aware thatWeems is Wednesday's new spirit

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guide, being able to see her andwhatnot.
Isaac tries to help Francoisand Tyler by removing their hide
nature, but was stopped byWednesday, enid and Agnes.
We find out that 15 years ago itwas Dort who gave Gideon,
gabrielle's ex-husband, bianca'sfather-in-law, former

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father-in-law the idea of themorning song Cold Scam.
And after Gideon gets arrested,dora assumes his own position
of essentially being a pimp tothe Sirens.
Enid's fate has been changed,but now an Atoms is foretold to

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die, one of the members of theAtoms.
Meanwhile, enid must now worryabout becoming an Alpha, since
they'll eventually transformpermanently and be hunted by
other werewolves forself-policing purposes.
Dort tricks Hester into givinghim her entire fortune by having

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Bianca hypnotize her.
Francois is dying, so Tyler andIsaac tries to get her some
help.
Wednesday, the dudes that Biancahad been helping door and while
Bianca tried wiping her memory,agnes ited and was able to
retell the truth to Wednesday.

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By the way, I dare say Agnes islike the MVP of the season
because she's been very helpfulto Wednesday, even though
Wednesday treated her like shit.
Honestly, let me just go aheadand take a break and say that
Wednesday reminds me of AliceRusso from Wizards of Wastewood,
who plays to a sense where herfriendship with Harper is like.

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At first you think like okay,they're best friends, they're
like practically sisters, right,but Alex like uses Harper and
Harper just glades over andwhatnot.
It just feels like a veryone-sided, toxic relationship.
And at first you think it waslike the case with Wednesday and
Enid.
But it was definitely the casewith Agnes, where it just seemed

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like Wednesday was justtreating her like shit, even
though Agnes was trying to helpher or whatnot, because she's a
fan.
But you know what they say youtreat them like a celebrity and
they'll treat you like a fan.
So so yeah, but uh, keeping itgoing, dort summons bianca,
who's surprised to see uh,gideon there.

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Gideon wanted to get paid andget out of the whole pimping
business, but dort decided tofire him literally by killing
him with fire and then, at thegala wednesday, helped Bianca
rescue Gabrielle and secure theanti-siren trinket that Dort was

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holding on that blocked thesiren song so that Bianca can
siren song Dort into aconfession.
He tried to hold Bianca hostageand escape, but Ajax surprised
him with his gorgon stoning anda chandelier fell on door
petrified body, effectivelykilling him.
Meanwhile, puzzly was out aboutgetting kidnapped by Isaac.

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We learned that Isaac'sexperiment all those years ago
was to rid Francois of herheightened nature, but by
sacrificing his own roommate,gomez, who had electric powers
at the time.
Morticia arrived to try to saveGomez by sabotaging the
machinery.
Gomez lost his powers thatnight and once again Morticia

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indirectly killed him.
Bruno leaves Nevermore withSophia, the other girl that he
was cheating on Enid with.
During Wednesday's finalconfrontation of the season,
it's revealed that Isaac ismissing a right hand and Thing

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happened to be that missingright hand.
Morticia cut his hand off andkept Thing as a companion all
those years ago.
Francois tricks Tyler intohaving his hive form removed,
but claiming that it's too latefor her but not too late for him
, francois ends up killingherself.
By the way, tyler's still ahigh agent.

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That Wednesday intervened in theAddams family for Isaac.
Thing ends up killing.
Wednesday intervened and theAddams Family For Isaac.
Thing ends up killing Isaac.
You know the whole Talk.
No juju thing, fight it thing,fight it.
And then Thing was trying totake over.
Fighting Isaac, thing ends upkilling Isaac, ripping himself

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off his arm.
Enid Riff, permanenttransformation to save wednesday
um, being buried alive.
And now she's on the run.
Uh, miss capri, the musicteacher, offered tyler refuge
among the hides because herfather was a high, so she
sympathized.
And, crazy enough, like she's awerewolf too.

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So it's like is he like a wolf?
Like a high half high halfwerewolf?
And wednesday teams up withuncle fester to find enid.
Also, grandma has their nosewhere ophelia is.
That's pretty much the breakdownof season two.

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It continues the technique ofactors looking directly at the
fourth wall when conversing witheach other, because I thought
that was a whole therapy thing,but I guess that's just a thing
in this show now and the seriesis evolving as a supernatural
murder mystery drama with plotlines that weave together yet
distract the viewer in a goodway, because, once again, if I

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know who the fucking killer is,it's not a good mystery.
Like at this point, I'm waitingfor the protagonist to know who
the killer is like.
I shouldn't know who the killeris before the protagonist.
I want to know.
At the same time I can feellike this you know what I'm
saying, so I'm kind of likeWednesday in that aspect.
But uh, I went through a lot ofshit, but that was pretty much

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all my notes.
How you feeling about seasontwo of Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
You went through the whole thing.
I thought we was going to takebreaks.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Nah, I just went to the zone and just thought to
just go ahead and talk abouteverything are you good?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
alright, so you pretty much covered the whole
story thing, but let me startoff into this one, since you
took a break to talk about this.
Um, I think misjudging thingsas far as about how Wednesday
treats her girls, her friendsper se, wednesday is one of
those ones that does not hidehow she really is.

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She feels from the verybeginning I don't want to make
friends.
If you choose to continue to bewith me, I'm just going to use
you to as much as I see fit andas long as you're useful to me
I'll keep you around.
If you're not useful to me,then I'll leave and I'll ditch
you.
She's very straightforwardabout this.
It's one of those ones like ifpeople tell you who they are,

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believe them, type of thing likethis, there's no difference
into that.
That's just really what it isnow.
As far as about wednesdaytreating her like crap, look,
the thing about it is thatwednesday was already seeing
ahead of time that she wasconstantly trying to become more
and more like her.
Wednesday is not greatercommunication.
She says this herself.
Other people say this.

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She's like I know I'm notgreater communication, I'm not
going to get better at it, itjust is what it is.
If you continue to be around me, you're dealing with who I am.
The thing about it is Wednesdayeventually broke because old
girl raided her closet, put on awig and tried to become a copy
of her, which for Wednesday,that's an absolute no.

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There is no other Wednesday.
She is the one and only one.
She likes being the one andonly one To her, while this girl
thinks she's doing it as a formof sign of respect and
endearment to Wednesday.
It is the most disrespectfulthing that you can do.
To be respectful for Wednesdayis be yourself.

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If Wednesday chooses to keepyou around because you're you,
that is your ultimate praise.
But you trying to forceyourself to be Wednesday is
absolutely disrespectful to her.
That's one of those thingsthat's like no, I don't want a
copy of me.
I was respecting you for whoyou were and I'm losing my

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disrespect.
I'm losing my respect.
I'm having more disrespectbecause you're trying to become
me instead of being yourself.
I don't want that.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
That reminds me of somebody what.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
But that's the thing.
Wednesday is not a communicator, she's not going to help you.
I want to make sure I had achance To mention my points into
it Because I was like I dounderstand Wednesday's point of
view.
Yes, granted, wednesday hassaid of view.
Yes, granted, wednesday hassaid it better Absolutely 110%.
Is that Wednesday's style?

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No, it's Wednesday.
Everyone says it, you'reinsufferable.
And to her that is a compliment.
I want to be insufferable.
I want to watch other people'smisery.
That's just what I want to do.
That is who I am.
So I mean, that's just how myviewpoint is into that one.

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But if I'm going to go throughreal quick, everything first off
is saying what's up, kali.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yo, I'm here my bad.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I know he's about to get his way.
Introduce you, welcome man.
Um, I'm just go ahead and runthrough mine real quick because
I know you would throw all ofyour notes.
But yeah, just that, we can'tlike back and forth on today's.
Starting from the beginning,into it, I want to say I was
absolutely grotesquely againstgomez in season one and I still

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am.
That's the big thing.
Into it.
Season two, gomez issignificantly better.
Okay, one of my favorite momentswas when they went to jericho,
that when they went to their ownthe pilgrimage place, when they
tried to do they tried toswitch things up and be like oh,
you know the day of the deadand we're all about authenticity
.
He's like uh-huh.
And then he started speakingSpanish to us Can you please

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direct me to where the churrosare at?
And she just looked dumbfounded.
He was like uh-huh, let's vamos, adios.
And I'm sitting there like, yes, you're all about authenticity.
No, you're all aboutauthenticity.
No, you're all about culturalappropriation.
That's exactly what you are.
You are marketing and I'm gladto have an opportunity of
mentioning this because there'speople that need to know this.
Okay, in hispanic culture, theday of the dead is one of the

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most revered and respectedholidays.
For them, it is not a thing youmarket.
If you actually pay attentionto how they do things, you
cannot buy day of the day stuffon the night of the day of the
day.
That moment is time that youspend with your ancestors, that

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you spend with your family.
That is not the time to goshopping.
That's not the time to go oh, Iwant to go ahead and go sell
this item here.
I want to make these carnivalgames.
No, that is respected time withyour family.
The fact that they tried tomarket this thing, to make it a
theme park, a carnival, was themost disrespectful things that

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you ever can do, because that'snot what that holiday is about.
So I'm so happy, like Gomez wasstraight up into that.
When you look this, he's likeuh-huh, yeah, authenticity, yeah
, I'll just straight updisrespectful is what the hell
y'all?
Just rude.
You don't do stuff like thatliterally in Hispanic culture,

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as far as the day-to-day, it'sthe same thing with I guess it's
making a Christian referencehere, with Jesus when they had
was selling stuff in the church.
Remember when it said Jesus wasangry and he started flipping
tables and doing all type ofstuff?
That was the absolutedisrespect.
That's exactly about the samelevel of disrespect.
It is for the day of the dead.
You don't do stuff like that.
They shut down shops.

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Shops are not open.
You are not supposed to be openbecause you're supposed to be
with your family.
You're not supposed to beselling anything because you're
supposed to be with your family.
You're sending off lanterns.
You're supposed to make thatyourselves.
If you do have to wind upbuying it, you buy it before you
don't buy it at the time.

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You're supposed to be with yourfamily.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Everything is shut down because it's dedicated
family time.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I'm sorry I had to get that little rant out.
I'll get it Because, yeah, itwas one of those ones that I was
so happy that they had a chanceto stand up into that one.
I also really liked CampJericho.
You know that.
Call back to adam's familyvalues, right, like, oh, adam's
family, I was doing values, Istill.
I, we still have those.
My family still have those ondvd.

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Um, love the movies.
We watch them like everyhalloween, along with, uh,
nightmare before christmas justa little family tradition.
We just go ahead and watch themjust because.
So, having a camp jerichocoming back and actually having
the set of camp jericho fromadam's family values was super
awesome.
I was super excited about that.
So I was like, yes, absolutelyenjoyed this.

(27:54):
Um, I also want to mention aswell I do agree with you about
the.
When you get to, when you knowwho the villain is, you're just
kind of waiting on it.
I will say the um, the asylumdirector, the asylum like pet,
the old director's daughter,being the person controlling the
ravens.
That was a bit of a surprise tome.

(28:15):
Okay, you got me on that.
That's a good shot.
I was um, I wasn't expectingthat.
I respect that one to it, butgoing into the whole principle
is one of those ones that whenme and my wife I've watched
movies before, there's a thingthat she always talks to me
about that she absolutely hatesis when a lot of shows and a lot
of movies they cast specificpeople who always do the same

(28:37):
role.
And it's not these actor andactresses fault, it's not their
fault, you know, they do therole so well, yeah, typecast
like, they do it so well thatit's like, if there's, if you
write in a particular person inthe script, oh, you're going to,
you automatically think of thatperson.
So you hire them.
Well, guess what?
The viewers, as soon as theysee this person that's the first
thing I'm going to think aboutis okay, is this person going to

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be this type of role?
And then boom, like twoepisodes in.
Or like, if you're watching amovie, 15 minutes in, yeah, yeah
, you're the villain.
Like it becomes so obviousbecause you always hire the same
people for that role and it'slike first off, you can hire the
person, give them a chance,write it up differently.
And if you are still going tohire them, yeah, write it up

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differently.
But otherwise, why not hiresomebody different?
Why not give somebody else anopportunity?
Don't make it so obvious to uslike that's where it's so
frustrating at, because it'slike, why would you do this?
It's so frustrating, so that'sjust kind of like.
My little viewpoint into thatone is that when the new
principal he plays those type ofroles, he's the backstabber.

(29:43):
You can see in his filmographythat he, he does those type of
roles, he's the backstabber.
You can see in his filmographythat he does those type of roles
and again, it's not his faultinto it.
He does a great job into thoseroles.
But it's one of those ones that, yeah, that's kind of unfair as
you typecast them.
And then it's unfair to us whenwe're watching a murder mystery
and we know who the murderer isat the beginning, it's like

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kind of, and we know who themurderer is at the beginning,
it's like I kind of feel likethey were stupid or something
like that.
I don't know, this is mepersonally.
This is me personally afterthat.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
That was right there.
Pugliati, Kelly, would you rankthe way in on season two right
now?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, sure, so I only just freshly watched it because
I had to get caught up witheverything.
This season was really reallygood.
I like the fact that they builton everything that happened
before.
I thought it was interestingthat they did actually bring
Tyler back into it the hide andI was not expecting for them to

(30:47):
be kind of like the big bad butto also bring in his mom.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm sorry but real quick, I still don't like the
design for the hide.
I like those big bug, big bugeyes.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
It's so goofy it is so goofy.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Hold on, let me ask you this Did y'all hate Grimwald
in Beowulf?
Because it's the same design,are you?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
talking about Grendel .

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Grendel yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah, I hated that too I don't remember watching
Beowulf, so I can't say.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's pretty much the exact same design, except the
only difference is Grendel lookseven more disgusting.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I remember promo for Beowulf, but I didn't actually
watch the movie.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Okay, it's really good, but Angelina Jolie killed
it as the witch.
Anyway, it's pretty much thesame design, but it is supposed
to be that.
Remember what a hide is.
It is, I think, the bestversion of the body when I see
it.
Yeah, but the best version of ahide that people you'll
probably think of is going to befrom league of extraordinary

(31:55):
gentlemen um where jekyll andhyde, because his high version
was pretty much just like a hulk.
He he was.
That's pretty much what he was.
He's just a bigger, beefierversion of himself.
But in this particulariteration, a hide is supposed to
be a monstrosity, a monstrousversion of yourself.
It is supposed to be agrotesque, uh, disgusting being.

(32:17):
It's supposed to be like awendigo, like in action.
That was what they based it onwas the wendigos from Hispanic
culture.
So that's the reason whyBecause keep in mind, with
Adam's family, remember Adam'sfamily itself the Adams history
is all Hispanic, both lineages.
So whenever they go for anytype of designs for these things

(32:39):
, everything is based onHispanic culture.
So that's the reason why theHyatt is designed the way it is.
It's just a mirror image of aWendigo, and I'll let you go
back, my bad.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
It's all right.
Yeah, I do want to mention whenyou were talking about Luis
Guzman being Gomez.
I like the fact that they doactually lean in more to the
Hispanic culture Because, likeyou said, that's the background
His name is Gomez, jenna Ortegais playing Wednesday Adams.
I mean, it's just the way thatworks out, and I do also enjoy

(33:15):
the fact that they even fleshedout more of Morticia and Gomez's
relationship, like the factthat they have even more secrets
, because I feel like everythingkind of heavily focused more on
Wednesday and her mom in thefirst one.
So it's right, I mean it's,it's all right.

(33:35):
I mean then they still did theexact same thing.
I'm glad that they brought backGwendolyn Christie to be Weems
again, because I really enjoyher Gwendolyn Christie to be
Weems again because I reallyenjoy her.
She did really really well and Iremember reading something too

(33:56):
that she really enjoyed havingthat role.
Gwendolyn Christie because youknow she's a really tall woman,
usually presents more masculineand they said she said in an
interview that she enjoyed therole because it allowed her to
dress more feminine and be morelike herself.
So I thought that was reallynice because, I mean, a lot of
us know us at excuse me, a lotof us know her as brienne of
tarth, obviously for game ofthrones or captain phasma from
star wars or um or lucifer inthe sandman netflix series.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
So that's a little bit more different.
I have an interesting Sandman.
My wife watched it.
Okay, yeah, that does seemfamiliar.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I'm only halfway through that second season, but
I'm still watching that, butanyway.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You know Lewis Goodman was growing on me.
You know like at first you werethinking like, okay, what was
up with the casting, right.
But then again when you go backin time, like the very old
cartoon version one, and youknow like, this big round portly

(34:57):
version of Gomez, like you'renot used to, like you're so used
to Raul Julia or like Orlandodoing it to where I'm like you
kind of forget that originallyGomez looked like that and I'm
like thinking you know what itkind of makes sense for him to
be good on Gomez.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Now, not only that, but it also kind of goes to show
that, like I said before, whereit's like he pulled the hot
goth baddie just by beinghimself pretty much, yeah, and I
think my biggest thing is thereason I was so frustrated in
the season one was because hewas so underutilized that it

(35:39):
seemed pointless and I was like,why would you do this?
And I was like it just seemedhorrible.
I was like you're right, you dothis, it just seemed horrible.
You're right as far as thevisualization.
I had no issue into thatbecause I love the animated
series.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
A lot of people were saying too that they really
enjoyed they like Louis Guzmanas Gomez by himself, and then
Catherine Zeta-Jones as Morticia, but a lot of people had
trouble with.
They felt like they had nochemistry together.
I do feel like that is a littlebit forced.
They don't engage with eachother.
But I'm also spoiled by Raul,julie and Angelica Houston from

(36:15):
the Adam's Family Values moviesas well.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
You throw a kiss in the hand and whatnot.
Like it really Always In theanime series.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
That what gomez did, too.
Gomez was always so, everysingle time.
Yeah, he's like.
He says my ketamia in this show.
If it does, my god, it'sunnatural, yeah it feels
unnatural type of thing, and I'mlike even it's not so much his
voice or anything like that,it's just it's not natural.
It doesn't feel.
Yeah, oh, he's reallyinfatuated with morticia, type
of thing.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
It's like they did better with this season because
they were flushing things outtogether, um and more of the
like, I said, the secrets thatthey had of.
As far as isaac knight and bro,I gotta say that reveal with
thing being isaac knight's handblew my mind and I was like what
?
And then you see wednesday'slike the gears are turning in

(37:05):
her head and she does thefreaking anagram of like oh my
god, the fact that gomez hadelectric powers, but that
experiment fried his powers.
I was like bro and he took themmakes so much sense and not to
mention I mean, I like the fact,though, that they got back at
grandma ma, because she's likewhy would you want to be him?
He's a fucking normie.
And it's like, um, actually hehad lightning powers, but an

(37:29):
awful friend of his stole them.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
So when she temporarily, uh, didn't have her
powers.
I'm like well, I don't havepowers.
Did that make me any less of anoutcast grandma?

Speaker 2 (37:41):
oh no baby, no, I'm gonna tell you this right now,
when you have kids because me, Idon't know if cali, I don't
know if you, if you have to gothrough this and I hope you
don't but that's a normalgrandparent thing.
Grandparents, all the time willhave something to say about
their kids and their kidsspouses, but once it comes to

(38:02):
their grandbabies, theirgrandbabies can never do no
wrong.
No, the crazy part is.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
The crazy part is how Wednesday at Pro's they're
talking about hey, I want to getinto the family business
because I know that makes my momfeel some type of way about it.
And then grandma was like oh, Ithought you would never ask.
You said you know you may havethe last name.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Adams.
I thought you would never ask.
He said you know you may havethe last name, adams, but you're
a frump on the inside.
I was like Jesus God.
That is a grandparents thingright there.
They love to see the pride ofthemselves and their grandkids
Not their kids.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Don't tell your mama, I gave you this money.
But yeah, even more, though shewas still only more fond of
Wednesday Because she wastalking Grandma, was talking
shit about Pugsley and thatpisses me off too.
He's a little bit I'm not goingto say I was going to say slow
he's a little bit different.
I feel like he doesn't fitEspecially into the family.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's like Uncle.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Fester.
He's like the bit different.
I feel like he doesn't fitespecially into the family.
Yeah, it's like Uncle Fester.
He's like the Uncle Fester.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
He doesn't exactly fit in.
He's supposed to be.
That's actually how Pugsley'salways been written, even from
old school Addams Family, Evenjust like a little fun thing.
I don't know if y'all have everseen the old black and white
monsters, the family monstershow.
I can't remember exactly whatit's called.
You talking about the monsters,yeah, the monsters, yeah.

(39:28):
So Wednesday is actually basedoff of that little girl.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's crazy how he forgot the title, but like the
fact that it was Monsters and itwas the end.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Yeah, because it's with a U.
That's what got me.
It's Monsters, because theirlast name is Monster, but it's
M-U-N-S-T-E-R.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
I didn't know.
I don't even remember that much.
No, you're good.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I watched a lot of old school stuff with my mom but
I used to love that show.
But yeah, wednesday Addams isbased on that little girl
because of her extremeintelligence and just dark
demeanor and stuff like that,dark demeanor and stuff like
that.
So yeah, super precocious.
But the thing about it is thatshe also had a brother.
That was kind of slow, but thething about it is that the

(40:11):
brother was like near invincibleabout anything.
The little sister could doanything she wanted to him and
he always bounced back and itwas like just pretty normal type
of thing.
It's pretty much based on thesame series, just a little bit
different.
But that that girl andwednesday are almost a damn near

(40:31):
carbon copy, same as thebrother.
And so pugsley was made to be.
I mean, even if you wanted totry to say autistic, maybe not
necessarily that, but just kindof somewhat near in the spectrum
, because pugsley doesn't alwayscatch up onto things like that,
but just kind of somewhat nearin the spectrum, because pugsley
doesn't always catch up ontothings like that.
But also, keep in mind, when itcomes to the adams family, to
be an outcast, to be unnormal,is normal.

(40:55):
That's just what it's supposedto be type of thing.
So he fits that bill of not thestandard boy, the, and also the
standard, like the standard, um, what's what's the word for
it's?
Uh, skepticism, type of what?
The stereotype, the stereotype,that's what.
It's the standard stereotype.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Shouldn't he be considered a prime example of an
outcast if he's an outcastamong outcasts?

Speaker 2 (41:20):
exactly that's the thing about the Adams, because,
remember, everybody says thesame thing and everyone Adams is
around, something crazy happens.
It's like the Adams family arethe outcast amongst outcasts,
they are the most outcasts, andthat's how they are, even in the
series.
That's why the extended familyis all the same way, cousin it.

(41:41):
He has his own adventures tooof going through so many
different things, you know whatI kind of hope he shows up at
some point.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
I want to know where Cousin it is.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah, I'm like, now that you mention it, where is he
at?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Because, Cousin, it was teased in the end of season
one so it was like, oh no, wemight see some of the extended
family a little bit more more inseason two, and then we don't.
I'm like that's kind of hurtful.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Yeah, we really only got to see more, got to see
Grandma Mon, that was about it,I mean crazy enough.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
We got to see a little bit more blur to this
season.
Just a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
And more Fester, More Fester too.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
I mean he's putting more of a more pivotal role in
this one.
So I want to say like he wasBester did yeah, he played more
of a role in this one, like hekind of popped up in season one
but he was like more importantin season two.
So I was like he was likekeystone in this one.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Can we talk about the fact that Christopher Lloyd had
a freaking cameo in there?
I love that so much yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Oh, I almost missed the Lady Gaga cameo too.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh man, I love man.
That's why season two was oneof those ones.
The writing got better.
There's still some shakymoments into it.
But, yeah, there's so manycallbacks To Adam's Family,
adam's Family values, that it'slike, okay, I do feel like
whoever Was working on writingthis time, you know the Adam's
Family Like how we america'sbaby golf family and so just

(43:10):
absolutely look as crazy as.
This is the craziest thing aboutthe two to say that, because
there's still so muchcontroversy even right now,
because wednesday season two hastons of promotional
advertisement.
But right now, um, aside fromall the normal issues we're
dealing with in america today,one of the other things about it
is just that, as much aswednesday is being promoted, it
is also being heavily, heavilyattacked, um, by a lot of

(43:33):
religious societies becausethey're like this is promotion
of demons and demon worship andall this type of stuff.
And the funny thing about it isthis the funniest thing about
it is wednesday.
The funniest thing about it,wednesday is no, even season two
is no different from theoriginal Addams Family shows,
from the original Addams Familymovies and from the animated

(43:54):
Addams Family movies, and it'sone of those ones of did you not
watch those?
This is nothing new.
Yeah, because they're trying tosay, oh, this is not the Addams
Family're trying to say, oh,this is not the Adams family
that we grew up on okay you'reright, it's not, but not in the
way that you're saying it.
We're saying it as it could havebeen darker, it could have been
more grotesque, it could havebeen more gruesome.

(44:15):
You're saying it's way too much.
No, hold on a second.
You didn't watch Adams family.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
I mean, it's like it was kind of there the whole time
, the fact that we have cousins,the fact that we have things,
the fact that we have words,like it was kind of there the
whole time.
If anything, wednesday kind ofexpanded upon it to where the
supernatural just plain outexists in this world.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Exactly, and then considering the fact that, like
almost every, like literallyevery Adam's family member is
technically a psychopath or akiller.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Like realistically.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
No.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I like to eat All types of animals.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
No, it's funny because I was saying like you
missed this where, like onceagain, morticia indirectly kills
a man in the season, yep.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I will say that's the only thing that frustrated me
for season two is the fact thatit's more so of those the
biggest plots is, oh, it's Gomezand Morticia's fault.
And now Wednesday's having tofix it or suffer for it, type of
thing, and I'm sitting herelike does it always have to be
their fault?
I'm just curious, does italways have to be their fault?
Like, I'm just curious, likedoes it always have to be their

(45:25):
fault?
Like they always say, wheneveran Addams is nearby, tragedy is
not far behind.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
She's paying for the sins of the previous generation.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I mean, that's pretty much what she wants anyway
Solving murder mysteries, alltypes of stuff, but yeah.
So like literally every personis Wednesday, loves going.
It's pretty much Dexter.
She loves going afterpsychopaths and killers and
bringing them to justice.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Her own way.
That reminds me Another personthat was kind of surprised I was
in this one Buddy Haley JoelOsment as the scalper.
Yeah, yeah, that was funny,haley.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Joel Osment as the scalper.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Yeah, yeah, that was funny, the way Thing just burst
out that door, just the fight,and that's well, you know behind
the scenes he actually likedoing Haley's kind of doing that
to himself because you knowacting, but it's kind of like
method acting.
You just gotta wrestle withwhat you're saying.
But I just thought it was kindof funny when you know the

(46:26):
behind-the-scenes method behindthat.
But I just thought that wholeshit was kind of funny to where
Wednesday was just taking downserial killers and whatnot for
fun, before she goes back toNevermore.
And speaking of Nevermore,let's talk about the trio,

(46:48):
because now that it's not justWednesday Enid, it is now
Wednesday Enid and Agnes andsometimes Bianca.
But uh, Agnes, I dare say shewas carrying this season Because
, like Wednesday probablywouldn't have gotten very far,

(47:08):
maybe, possibly.
But Agnes was really helpful ina lot of ways, wearing
visibility, being able to beWednesday's spy to get
information and whatnot.
And like you said earlier,you're right, like Wednesday's
going to be Wednesday.
I kind of glossed over thatpart.
I was going to mention it butlike I don't know why I didn't

(47:29):
mention it.
But it is kind of wild if, outof context, it would look like a
one sided toxic relationshipthat Wednesday having with Enid
and Agnes.
But Wednesday is very upfrontabout who she is, so it's kind
of a fair game that you get whatit's like.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
oh it's like her speech at Camp Jericho when they
had the painting reveal and shewas like, put up that speech,
being like, oh, this is soawesome, which is what some dumb
minded people would say.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, like like put up that speech, being like, oh,
this is so awesome, which iswhat some dumb-minded people was
yeah, like bro, I love how shegot fucking heated at that uh
commemoration where theyrevealed the pain and she was
all heroic and what nice.
And you just tell on jenna'sface that she was like fucking
fuming.
I was like, look here, no, no,no, what happened is like she,
she playing it cool, but uh, youdon't understand that she is

(48:27):
fuming right now it's a absoluteshout out to her take on to
that she.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
She sold that role like that part.
Right there was.
I felt.
I felt the frustration in herface.
I was like, oh yeah it's like.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
It's like the first time you see like color on her
skin, because you know, you knowhow she's like normally half
cadaver Looking, but like whenshe gets mad, it's like, oh,
it's like a little red and it'slike you can't see like a little
color In her skin.
Nah, she's pissed.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
You talk about the skin.
I just want to quickly mentionthat grandma Ma's recipe Of like
having the best skin complexionthat gives them their flawless
skin complexion is ash, and youtry to figure out which ash is
this from.
Does it really matter, dear?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Oh Lord, it's like this one episode of Rick and
Morty that I just watched.
I'm going to continue the Rickand Morty review, but that's for
another time.
Yeah, wednesday's going tocontinue the Rick and Morty
review, but that's for anothertime.
But uh, yeah, like Wednesday'sgoing to be Wednesday, but uh, I
just think it's kind of funnyhow not only with her dynamic
with Agnes, to a point whereAgnes is like you know what,

(49:35):
it's kind of not worth imitatingWednesday.
I just, you know, like Enidsaid, be your own psycho.
So she decided to just drop allthat and whatnot, eventually
started dressing.
Like I just like the way shegot her, like how much hair she

(49:56):
has once she takes the braidsout.
I'm like, okay, yeah, you know,granted, it was like the French
braid for pretty long.
But like I'm just saying, likeyou know, granted, it was like
the Prince break for pretty long.
But like I'm just saying like,okay, okay, see what the prince
would say here.
Like I don't like that, I don'tlike that.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Classic woman's transformation.
I know how to fix it.
I know how to get rid of yournerdy look.
Takes off glasses, undoes,braids.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Like, uh, what was the princess diary with Anne
Hathaway, where, like, all yougotta do is just take off the
glasses?
Yep, you're good, you've had alot of beauty all along.
Yeah, but uh, what else?
Oh, enid, like first of all,how she tried to like make sure
that she's not being replaced byAgnes, but try to make sure

(50:45):
that she's not being replaced byAgnes.
But I think one of the funniestunintentional scenes for me.
It wasn't meant to be funny butit was kind of funny to me,
just the way Emma Myersdelivered this line when Agnes
was formulating a plan toinfiltrate Willow Hill and
whatnot and Eno's like alright,so what's my part of the plan?

(51:05):
And wednesday, andrews waslooking at each other like, uh,
you want to be included?
And then, well, they, they saidit with their um eye content,
not words.
But uh, then eno was like, doyou even want to be my friend
anymore?
I was was like whoa, hold on,why are you going that far?

(51:27):
Like Wednesday said to herselflike that wasn't even in
question and it was like allright, you're on the lookout.
I was like really, like Ithought I was going to get
something mission critical, youare okay.
Like I need somebody to watchout for me because something
happens.
That's mission critical.

(51:47):
But it's kind of crazy how Enidwent from Not really being into
the whole murder mystery Side oftheir relationship To.
Oh well, you know, after thearrested couple of guys, I'm
part of the team.
Now Just let me know when youneed a case.

(52:07):
It don't even have to be a case.
Balance with Crossing Mother.
I've been there too.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Aina just wants to be included.
She loves popularity.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Speaking of which, Callie, how do you feel about
the Freaky Friday episode?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I was caught off guard in the beginning of the
episode and I was like, okay,what the fuck is happening?
Why is Wednesday dancing aroundto Boombayah by Blackpink?
I was like she doesn't likeK-pop, what the fuck is
happening.
But I really enjoyed theepisode because I had a feeling
it was going to be one of thoseum, learn what the other one is

(52:51):
dealing with.
And not to mention, I feel likeum, wednesday and enid's body
did her a solid with blowing off.
Uh, what was his name?
Uh, the other werewolf guy, theone that was speaking into
Golug and stuff like that to hisgirlfriend.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I thought something was up with that guy Bruno.
No, no, that's right, it wasBruno.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Okay, yeah, screw that guy.
He was rude and being mean toEnid.
I thought that was really good.
And then also Enid pretendingto be like regular Wednesday.
I'm like, no, there's no wayshe can pull this off.
And of course, the stalker wasable to understand what the heck

(53:35):
was going on.
I do agree, she was really,really OP with a lot of this Her
being able to turn invisibleand do so much and like save
people.
Oh yeah, I'm glad that theyended up telling her to kind of
um, to do her own thing andbecome her own person because I
feel like that was a lot of thebiggest thing that was a big

(53:58):
benefit for her was the abilityto choose, uh, her invisibility.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Because if you pay attention, when she when uh,
wednesday was finally, when theyfirst started like confronting
her into it, when wednesday, wasgoing into the yago tower
immediately like she startedlike doing the phantom step, but
she would disappear and thenreappear, disappear, reappear,
but she would disappear withjust the only the mask being um
present, and then boom, shecould disappear, the mask also.

(54:24):
So it's like she has theability to choose what she can
make disappear, if she's holdingit or not, and I think that's
really OP in itself, because youdon't see that in a lot of
invisibility, even withinvisible woman shit and like
Marvel, that's one thing thattakes a lot of concentration.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I also like how, when Fester visited and he caught
Agnes spying on him you can'tsneak up on me, kid.
In fact you probably need towork on your sneaking, like you
know, kind of walk between theseams of the floor so you know
it'd be quieter because you knowit's kind of too loud when
you're sneaking.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Well, we love continuity, because she learned
that right after.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, she did, and still wound up getting caught by
the Hyatt anyway.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, but he probably , if I had to guess they
probably have enhanced sense ofsmell or something like that.
That might have also been whatit was.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
That's quite intense.
I can still see you.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Look, we understand Hyatt's are broken and because
they're broken they have a shortlifespan.
That's just pretty much what itis.
They're the most powerful ofoutcasts and because of that
they have the shortest lifespanand have to have a master,
unless they're female, and it'sslightly different.
Oh, hold on, I want to mentionthis, uh, because we probably
was going to come to a littlebit later, but I really want to
mention this.
That fight between him and hismom right, she was whooping his

(55:46):
ass like oh my god, she waswhooping his ass.
I was thinking I'm like, okay,it's not necessarily gonna be a
fair fight per se, but I didn'tthink it was gonna be one-sided
like that one.
There's one of those ones likeI'm you could tell just like I'm
not trying to kill you, I'mlike you're not.
You broke his arm twice in thefight.
You tossed him out of the toweronto a building.

(56:06):
You bit his back.
The bite mark was still thereat the end of the series.
You can see the bruises allover his face.
That didn't heal and he stillhad the bite mark in his back.
That was like hold on.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Let me still go back real quick before I forget how
the freaky Friday episode where,with all things being said,
what, uh, what going on it was afun episode.
Uh, I thought it was a funepisode, but I just want to
applaud how.
Not only did we get this sideof Wednesday through Enid that

(56:46):
we thought whoa hold on, this iskind of weird.
She's awfully happy.
One of them's like come in guys.
I was like whoa, what's goingon?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
She was not good at trying to act like she was
Wednesday, it was just so funny.
She's like okay, yeah, we gotto keep our cool.
And then she goes hi guys, ohmy gosh, you look so cute, I
love your dress.
Blah, blah, blah.
And oh my gosh you look so cute.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I love your dress blah, blah, blah.
And it's like Enid.
I just love how Enid madeWednesday look so animated in
this episode to where it waslike you see a whole lot more
emotional range from her.
So it's like I applaud JennaOrtega for that.
You know, trying to act likeEnid in a sense.
But I applaud Emma Myers evenmore for trying to act like Enid
in a sense.
But I applaud Emma Myers evenmore for trying to stick to the

(57:33):
whole Wednesday personality, towhere she's just looking, like
she's always looking at you,like with her, like her head
tilted down just staring daggersat you oh yeah, pulling the
Kubrick stare yeah, I was likebro with the eye shadow you
stare.
Yeah, I was like bro, like withthe ice.
Yeah, I don't know rainbow here.
It's like it's, you can see,like a rainbow gone with that

(57:57):
look, you could tell.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
You could tell something that they wished for
because they were.
You could tell they was hopingfor an episode like this, to be
able to act like each other typeof thing.
It's like just one time I don'twant to act like wednesday, I
want to act like the bubblyextra girl and got the
opportunity to now and I willsay she sold that um color hive
thing because that whole like Ithought she was just joking
about being allergic to color, Ididn't know she was actually

(58:21):
allergic to wow, what a laugh.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
That's probably something wednesday was it but
uh, that's probably somethingWednesday, was it?
But uh, let's just.
Can we talk about how okay ittook three years For this season
to come out and while Both theactors for Eugene and Pugly Got

(58:44):
a growth burp Like oh my gosh,he grew.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
He grew over the summer and I'm like, yeah sure,
three years.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
We'll do that like I'll.
That's some crazy ass pubertythat happened during the summer
but, uh, I also mean he is a man.
Yeah, true, but I would alsolike to imagine that during that
three-year period, it's likeimagine the writers and Jenna

(59:15):
and Emma was like kind ofbouncing ideas and they're
probably thinking, oh, you know,it'd be funny.
You know Freaky Fridays comingsoon, like what if we did like
our own Freaky Fridays?
Wouldn't it be crazy if wepretended to be each other for
an episode?
I could see that.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
That probably was one of their favorite episodes man
For real.
I haven't seen the interviews,but I'm curious.
I really think it'd be one oftheir favorite episodes.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I was watching it a little bit, but I didn't hear
them talk about that episode inparticular.
But I'll go back and look at itand see how they felt about it,
but I imagine that's like oneof their favorites.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Uh, oh, I did want to mention you were saying
something I was just thinking.
So Kelly mentioned that shethought that she could tell it
was some type of something, thatmaybe probably a body switch or
maybe something was different.
Honestly, I thought it was mindcontrol.
At first, the first thing Ithought of I was like somebody's
mind control the wednesday.
Oh, she gonna kill them.

(01:00:13):
Oh, she gonna do so much inside.
Oh, it's gonna be horrible.
It's gonna be horrible.
Then I was like, oh wait, holdon, she's acting like enid.
And I was like, oh, it's a bodyswap.
So I was curious how he had got.
Then, you know, enid winds upsaying it and i'm'm like okay,
so how did we get here?
I want to say it's Enid's fault.
I understand, enid, you didn'twant to miss your dance, I get
that.

(01:00:34):
So you snuck out to getWednesday.
I completely understand.
The thing is this Wednesdaydidn't break the gaze of a chord
.
She was forced into it.
You really look at it.
Enid pulled Wednesday off ofthe grave.
Pulled Wednesday off of thegrave.
She snatched her off.
So it's like this is your fault.
You want to sit here and talkabout it?
Oh, it's my fault.
And it's like, oh, you guys aregoing to die within 24 hours if

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you don't switch back.
That's not Wednesday's fault.
Wednesday, let you out of it.
You included yourself and nowyou're mad and you're like oh,
it's your fault that I died.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
No, it's actually your fault.
If you had left me alone, likeI intended, we wouldn't be here.
I'm gonna pull the therapistpart of therapist card on this.
If wednesday had alsocommunicated to enid what was
going on, a lot of this couldhave been prevented.
Obviously they wouldn't havemade it in series.
But, bro, she could havecommunicated what was going on
so at least enid could be moreaware what's going on.

(01:01:33):
But of course wednesday's likeI'm not going to tell her about
it because I don't want toendanger her.
Blah, blah, blah and it's like,yeah, that's great, but that
still might end up getting herkilled.
Like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
hold on.
I'm glad that you brought thatup.
I'm glad that you said that,because while I was watching
this season I was like, okay,season one, clearly Winston went
to see that one therapist whoended up getting killed.
But in season two I was likeit's giving a family therapy

(01:02:05):
vibe, like this whole familyneeds therapy, the way they're
communicating with each otherand whatnot.
It's almost like Morticiahaving like some mommy issues
and all that, and that's alsobleeding into Wednesday too, to
where this whole sort of thingand whatnot.
And it just kind of felt likedang, like a bunch of y'all need
therapy.

(01:02:26):
What do you think about it?
Yep, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
And the all starts with Mama Frump Just absolutely
torturing her daughter becauseher daughter didn't want to take
over the family business.
Because how dare Morticia beour goth queen and actually have
care and compassion for otherpeople?
How dare you?
That's not Frump mentality.
We don't care about otherpeople.
We don't care about thesepeasants.

(01:02:52):
They're just eventual moneybecause eventually they don't
die, and then that brings usmoney in our cemetery.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
And you know what, Kogigasu.
I am so glad you said thatbecause, Callie, once again I'm
back to you.
How do you feel about PrincipalDore essentially pimping out
the sirens?

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Well, I mean I wasn't surprised because once he
started to, we started to slowlylearn what his role was in
morning song.
Like I didn't realize it washim.
I mean, I completely forgotabout that gideon guy and I
completely forgot from you knowfrom three years ago, why she
was keeping her mom hidden inthe freaking first place.

(01:03:40):
But I was like, oh yeah, that'sright.
And so dort was the one thatwas putting everything up.
So of course he's like I knoweverything that's going on with
your mom.
If you don't want her to beturned in or you don't want me
to hurt her, then you're gonnado what I tell you to do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
And the part when, when he said that and he uh took
his head up like go ahead, saywhat I need you to say.
But he knows he's gonna be likewill say exactly what he needs.
Aw, nisa's like, I'm justwaiting for you to agree.
I just like that little nod.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
No, I love the fact that at the end, when he
actually ends up saying like youknow, they get back at him and
they finally turn everything onto him.
At the end, at the gala thatwas, it was so cringe watching
him tell everybody Of coursethey're like live reacting.
Of course this is what we wantand he's admitting to what he
did.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
But I was like oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
This is great.
Get it, you fucking asshole,because there was the whole
thing that he was trying to useagainst Bianca is siren songing
other people and then that washis demise and he got what
crushed by a fucking chandelieror some shit.
Yeah, what is this?
Phantom of the Opera.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
No, the crazy part is he did that to himself because,
remember, he shot that fireballaccidentally up to the
chandelier.
That weakened the chandelierand Ajax was the one that stoned
him.
But then the chandelier kind ofjust broke off and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
He kind of just broke up and yeah, he can't see the
symbolism.
His own defeat, yeah, that'sall.
This is simple.
Can I mention his fight?
Like this, dude's fire is crazy.
So understand this.
We, you really we realize thefact that how he does his fire,
he he's is you give him firegideon?
yeah, but it's how he did it.
So here's the thing his abilityisn't just fire manipulation.
So when you really think abouthow he did it, he blamed Gideon

(01:05:38):
from the inside out like yes, heshot fire through his shoulders
into his body and the dude wascooking from the inside out it's
almost like Darwin from X-MenFirst Class, when it's like this
kind of little taste of thisand this start exhilarating for

(01:05:58):
Nance.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
I'm like God damn.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
When I tell you that was such a gruesome episode.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
To make another nerdy reference, that means he's
basically a third generationuser in Fire Force.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
If he's third generation, you're correct.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Because he's creating the fire instead of using fire
that's already there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
But he's also.
He's just like dang, what'severyone's favorite character in
Fire Force, who's a mix ofthird and second generation?
Yeah, because third generationonly just makes it.
Force who has who's a mix ofthird and second generation.
Yeah because, yeah, benny,because he cannot, because, um,
third generation only just makesit, but then tomorrow, and can
manipulate on it, and you sawhim be able to do that with the
um, with the fireplace, he'sable to snap his fingers or just

(01:06:42):
like, immediately make the firego away or snap or snap in, so
you can, you can manipulate fireas well as also create fire too
.
Oh yes, this dude's.
Oh, I was like that's op behindthe building.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Wait a second there's no fire from x-men grief hmm,
shots fire, literally shotsfired.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
But no, that was crazy.
When he did that I was justlike, oh okay, and he did it
right in front of old girl too.
So he was like that was thatmoment.
You'd be like, hmm, Iunderstand why no sirens ever
stood up to you.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, he's like on an untouchable level of don't give
a damn.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
That type of fire.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
You should put it in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
And the bad part about it, too, is that he
doesn't have blue flames ornothing like that either.
If it was blue flames, the firewould be like Gideon's death
would be a lot faster.
It stayed orange, yellow, it'sjust cooking, just's just
cooking, just straight upcooking.
Oh, painful death.
I'm like oh, that's horrible.
This is Wednesday.

(01:07:57):
Yeah, makes sense, there's theAddams.
Family.
I know, oh gosh, wait, do Ihave a favorite?
I thought I had a favorite.
I thought I had like a favoriteepisode into this one.
I know I mentioned I think youhad heard when I had mentioned

(01:08:18):
about the whole the day of thedead situation.
I really loved how theyaddressed that one so quick,
like it was quick and simple,but they definitely addressed
that whole culture appropriationinto that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Yeah, she was just jumping off her.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Yeah, ah, okay.
So, yeah, I absolutelydefinitely loved that one.
I mentioned about the fights.
I'm trying to think if I hadsomething else, oh, so I want to
apologize to everyone.
Not even my fault, clearly, butjust one of those ones.
I feel bad.
So, like my brother, he came byrecently, he came by with his
girlfriend and so we wasactually talking about it on

(01:08:52):
Wednesday it was actually justthe other day and she was
frustrated because she said Ihaven't even seen the series yet
.
But apparently, like for mostpeople, thane's backstory was
completely exposed online.
Just completely just ruined itfor so many people.
So sorry for all y'all.
Oh, you know what?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Listen.
That makes me so glad.
I watched the episodes as soonas they came out and went on.
This bullet wave not gonna getme.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
I just stayed off the internet.
Yeah, I mean because in fact Ifound I just recently found out
Kaiju No.8, season 2, hasalready damn near done, but I'm
like, wow, I didn't even know itcame out.
So yeah, I've been under a rock.
Anyway, that's how I savedmyself, but still I felt so bad
for y'all because that's justinsane.
Now I will say that's one of theones that I did start catching

(01:09:40):
from two episodes prior, andhere's why.
So, as isaac started healing,one of the things you notice is
that his body was, he wasgetting more control of his body
and how things were going,except his right hand.
If you notice the fact thatthey kept mentioning that he was
a Darwin, and it was mentionedat the very beginning, the first
episode, that the principal wastalking to Morticia about the

(01:10:03):
fact that he's, like you know,these Darwins are so geniuses,
and especially their psychicability, able to um their
telekinetic ability no, no uhdavinci's, davinci's, yeah,
davinci's, yeah, and he's like,it's like you gotta understand,
like so isaac is supposed to beone of the best ones, but you
never see him use his abilityand I'm like, wait a second.
I was like I started piecingthat together a little bit early

(01:10:25):
on, but I first noticed likehis hand never healed.
His right hand always stayedcrippled the whole time.
It was one of those ones thatyou were like is that how he's
supposed to be For me?
That's how I started catchingon too.
I was like it would be wild ashell if thing was actually his
hand.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Then he just pulled off that glove.
I was like oh no just I felt sobad.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Look, I thought thing was dead too at the end.
You know, thing was strugglingto get up, struggling to rip
himself from the head, and itwas like and then wesley's just
standing there, come on thing.
And everyone's like, come onthing, come back to us, come
back to us.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Hold on Speaking of which, that one part where it
was kind of funny, where Thingkind of had to put his foot down
, with Mortician Gomez treatinghim like a servant pet, whatnot
Different errands I think he'sin the thing or whatnot, oh yeah

(01:11:26):
.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Matter of fact, I don't think we never reviewed it
, but the the latest adamsfamily animated uh movies, those
delayed the last two that cameout because they were like they
were back to me.
No, they weren't 3d, they were2d.
Okay, cartoon, yeah, it was acartoon, um, because they'll
like I think it was the secondone had um Lurch's backstory

(01:11:49):
where you find out that he was abodyguard and stuff and he had
another dude that he knew from awhile back.
That one I like.
How we do get a chance to seethat there was something that's
been started happening is thatwe put aside the servants so
much.
But if it wasn't for theservants, a lot of stuff don't

(01:12:10):
be happening the way like itneeds to.
You got to show someappreciation for lurch.
Lurch cooks your food anddrives you everywhere.
It's like I'm just saying andthen you know, enid wound up
picking on, uh, wednesday, aboutthat wednesday tried to do all
that driving test episode.
There we go that.
Oh, that was fun, she was fun.
She cut the little break line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
It was like I'm the captain now.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
I was like no, you didn't.
But then Eden was picking upand said you know, we don't all
have butlers that can just driveus around, we don't all have
chauffeurs.
And I'm sitting here likereally You're going to try to
take a dig at Wednesday.
Don't take a dig at Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:12:50):
Nah, the funny part is that she was taking more digs
at Wednesday this season thanlast season Because, remember,
they didn't really were likebest of both, obviously, but it
was at one point where they hada confrontation in season one
and now in season two it's morelike she's throwing more fingers
at Wednesday and Wednesday's,kind of like.
I don't know whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
That's because she ain't scared of her.
No more.
She's like eh, so that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
It's like the Homelander, it's like the
Homelander effect, where itseems like every time there's
someone that doesn't fearHomelander, he's like keep
letting them live for somereason, when he could have
killed them anytime.
But it's like for some reasonwhen he could have killed him
anytime.
But it's like for some reasonbecause you don't fear me, I'm
gonna keep you around.
I don't know that's why.

(01:13:37):
I know it's because you knowbetween Billy Butcher and Sam
Edgar, like he could have killedhim at any moment.
But it's like the fact thatthey don't fear him.
It's like he has like an oddrespect for him so he just
doesn't do it pretty much.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
So it's like it's.
It is kind of a weird thing.
It's that you're like you knoweveryone's afraid of me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
I want to kill him, but uh, you can tell what
madeline still was, where hedidn't even he didn't even look.
It was all good up.
Stilwell said she was afraid ofhim and that's when he killed
her.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Oh, can I mention this?
I was thrown off by one thingin the writing.
I swore throughout the series,when they first introduced her,
that the music teacher was goingto be a villain.
I swore she was going to be avillain and it was a big
surprise With the birds.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Hold on, no the birds .
I was like hold on.
She did kind of get set up, butthat's why I thought no, no, no
, no.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Remember season one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
I don't think they would do that twice in a row
though it can't be the case,yeah, like when I saw those
birds, it can't be it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
She can't be it, because you're making it too
obvious for me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
No, no, no, no, I mean but so many other stuff was
too obvious too.
The principle was too obvious.
No, I thought he was kind offunny.
I didn't know he was gonna be avillain.
I mean, I didn't think you'regonna be like that.
I'm like damn so.
He was running the whole sirenson the whole time I was
watching.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
I was watching the other guys the other day.
Okay, I was watching other guysthe other day.
All right, will pharaoh'scharacter remember?
It was the pain was a pimp, buthe was like that cool, just
simple, funny guy type thingthat wanted to be on the desk
and everything.
But he was like I was justraising out of me you can't, you
can't tell daddy what to do.
You make daddy money what'sthis?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
also the same one where he had, like this uh, this
latina ex-wife that kind ofstill wants him, I think.
So, yeah, yeah, okay wait,what's that?
because I know that's the onethat had the rock and um no,
because like they had like thatlittle Fight in the kitchen to
where like it was like a bipolarass fight, to where she was

(01:15:53):
like hitting him and he was like, oh you, still cute.
And then like just hit himagain.
I was like what the fuck ishappening?
Like, do you like me or do youhate me?
What's going on here?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I'm just saying.
It's usually those simple coolguys, those super calm cool guys
who's like easily manipulative,always like I just got away
with the ladies, it's just howit works.
You just got away with theladies and you're like you're a
pimp, ain't you?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
nah, you know what that makes sense for me like not
to get too personal, but it'salmost like because like not to
flex too much.
But you know, I'm trying tolike learn more about emotional
intelligence, emotional maturity, trying to approach things with
a logical, unbiased mindset,and you know what?

(01:16:38):
That's probably why I'm stillsingle, because the thing is if
I can't be manipulated, theydon't want to fuck with me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Can we have an after dark episode we're supposed to
do on this one?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
okay, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
I just thought about that.
As you said, I'm like wait asecond.
You don't look out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
We do have an after dark episode coming up for
relationships but that's likenext week or so, like whenever
we get to that gotcha, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
So yeah, people, please don't look after that one
you want me to talk abouthealing drunk past relationships
.
So, cali, you might even be afit for this episode oh,
speaking of, uh, speaking oflike relationships, let's talk
about secrets in relationships.
Morticia writing goth lovestories.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Oh yeah, under what was the name?
Barbara something.
And then Winston was like you,writing books.
I'm like, are you copying myflow?

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
but it's one of those ones like when you get older,
you understand the arts ofdarkness and love and compassion
.
And I'm sitting here, like Isaid hey, like matisha, you
nasty, wait a second.
Let's be honest here.
For most guys it was alreadylike Partition was just Straight

(01:18:10):
up.
It's the golf queen she is, heis her.
Is her an L-virus?
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
The fact that she said In season one when she was
like oh well, you know, somepeople just need that losing of
control, kind of like how shelet Gomez Think that she runs,
that he runs the family.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Oh yeah, she said, she said that the winds, it was
so funny.
Yes, I mean that's also like,look, that's that's our
relationship thing.
We know it's true, we know it'strue, like most most.
Look, it's the thing for mehappy wife, happy life, that's
that's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
That's one, that's another reason why I'm like I.
I'm in this situation.
I'll stand up on the and belike look here.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
You don't talk to me like that.
Look, you said it's a happyrelationship.
You want to be in the happyrelationship.
You want both parties to behappy.
This is true.
This is ideal.
This is what you really want.
But the whole honest truth isfor both to be happy.
The wife has to be happy.
This is what it is.
I was going to go ahead andjust say that that's where we at

(01:19:12):
.
When the wife ain't happy,everything else falls to chaos.
That's just what it is.
It's just the mom of thehousehold just does that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
What do I get?

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
I'm on the side of happy spouse, happy house.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
And I feel you on that, I do.
I feel you, look, as a personwho was blessed enough to marry
his own Morticia okay, to marryhis own Elvira, because my wife
is straight up goth emo.
I love it everything and she'dprobably be writing books, just
like Morticia would too, butanyway coming into those things,
understand.
And she, she'd probably bewriting books just like Morticia
would too, but anyway cominginto those things understand

(01:19:55):
that power is with the wife.
That's just ideal.
What it is is one of those onesthat you naturally relinquish
the power to, and here's why.
Here's why Keep in mind whatGomez winds up saying when they
wind up getting the house, whenthey the power to it.
And here's why.
Here's why I answer it okay,Keep in mind what Gomez winds up
saying when they wind upgetting the house, when they're
convinced to stay.
Okay, gomez immediately goes toMorticia and she's like as

(01:20:18):
horrible as hideous.
He says but I know with yourtouch it'll be fine.
Keep in mind, on this one,gomez took no lead in trying to
fix up that house.
When it comes down to the happyhome, how the home comes set up
is generally the wife that doesit.
Just saying but you always canhave communication.

(01:20:43):
There's always going to be goodcommunication.
That's why I love Gomez andMorticia from Adam's Family and
Adam's Family Values.
Because the thing about it is.
That's why I love Gomez andMorticia from Adam's Family and
Adam's Family Values.
Because the thing about it isas much as Gomez was always
relinquishing everything toMorticia, morticia always gave
Gomez some power.
It wasn't one of those like Imake him think that he has power
.
Gomez, you could tell, feltlike the head of the household.

(01:21:06):
He was able to make familydecisions.
He was able to do stuff likethat, versus on Wednesday.
You don't see that Every singletime.
If Gomez wants to do something,it's always a don't tell your
mother.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
He was trying already to be the cool dad.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Don't tell your mother, just don't tell your
mother why we do this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Gomez didn't do that in Add's family, adam's family
values it was almost like he wasthe kind of dad to where, like
he would give puzzly a stiffthread like don't tell your
mother yeah, but it was like why?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
why does that always have to be the phrase that kind
of goes into?
Because even animated series itwasn't that either and gomez
was able to take control as thefather of the household, like a
look, they felt like they wereable to have a role like that,
like everybody felt important intheir own aspect.
And that's one of the thingsthat was best about Adam's
family too, because that's oneof the other non-normal things
about it was, during the timethe Adams family was so like

(01:22:03):
patriotic was specificallybecause of the fact that in the
home it was was always thehusband had full control of
everything.
The wife couldn't do anything.
But what made the family so outof whack was that everybody felt
equal in things.
The kids had some freedom to dostuff.
Kids didn't have freedom backin the 80s, it was thrown

(01:22:26):
outside and he had to help usabout the 90s.
We dealt with it too.
But the thing about it is itwas always.
It was usually always thatwhole thing of like head of the
household was always the dad,always the father, and he was
the one that always had tofinally say so, regardless of
whatever it is the mom felt.
But that was not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
For that I wear these , I wear these pants, I pay the
bills, I bring home the breadand the bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Exactly, and so this one is different.
Like you get that opportunityPlus.
Also, one of the biggest jumpschanges into this too, is that
in the Adams family, the Adamsare the ones that are wealthy
versus the Frumps.
Versus the Frumps, because,understanding, like with
Wednesday, it is Morticia, hermom, is the Frump that actually

(01:23:13):
has the most money in it.
That has everything worked out.
However, in the Addams Family,normalcy and the normal
storyline for it is that Gomezand Fester's dad wind up
stumbling into a whole bunch ofmoney.
If I'm correct, I think it waslike oil, but he wound up
stumbling into a whole bunch ofmoney.
It was like, if I'm correct, Ithink it was like oil, but he
wound up stumbling into a wholebunch of money.

(01:23:33):
He passed it down to hisbrothers, passed down to his
sons, and so both brothers justwent doing whatever.
Gomez was not good with money.
He would just keep spending andjust doing whatever.
But because of his Adam's luck,every time he would spend money
it would come back twice orthree times as much.
So he would spend money on thestock just because, oh, I'm just

(01:23:56):
going to spend the money itwould win, and he'd win like
five times the amount of moneyback and that's why, like, the
adams family is like theultimate richest one in like as
far as the original lineage.
So that is one of the biggestchanges.
That for season two becausethey don't highlight that in
season one, but for season twothat's a big change that
actually does happen in thestory is that it's not the adams

(01:24:19):
that's rich, it is the frompsthat's rich, it's morticia's
family that the money comes fromand I'm like huh, that's
actually a really big change butit's not bad.
It still works out pretty well,but it's still one of those
ones that's like huh.
That's a really big differenceon how things kind of worked out
there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Now that I think about it.
I've kind of just looked at mylist.
I've exhausted my list, but Idon't have anything else to
comment on to this.
I mentioned the fight.
The final fight was stillreally good.
I did enjoy it.
I understand y'all didn't likethe designs.
I like the Wendigo designs.
They're creepy as hell.
I don't like Until Dawn thegame, but I will say the Wendigo
designs are creepy anddisturbing and it feels like

(01:25:06):
it's supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I mean, I'm curious if that's what they're supposed
to look like.
That's what they're supposed tolook like, but don't point a
gun to my head, towards me, tolight that I'm like.
You might as well pull thetrigger, man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
No, I understand, Because what does it look like?
What do they look like?
Lord of the Rings, I'm notDobie.
Dobie is Harry Potter.
Lord of the Rings, the crawlingone, golem, golem, yes, that's
what they look like.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
They look like giant long or smiegel, either golem or
smiegel.
Well, I mean, they had tochange his name when he got
corrupted by the ring, so ohyeah I don't know, because
sometimes you know, like thewhole schizophrenic to where,
like it's almost like, is itgolem or the smiegel that's
trying to help him?

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
yeah, when you look at the face of the big beady
eyes, it looks as they look.
The wendigos look almostexactly like that don't they
like?

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
but least with Gollum he was a little cute and frail.
I mean not cute, but small andfrail.
I'm like all right, I can kindof tolerate a little bit.
He just looked like amalnourished child.
So I'm like man, I don't know.
Big-ass book-eye version.

(01:26:30):
I'm like, oh hell, no, you needto get out of my face.
Nah, it's basically likemid-transformation when it's
just the bug-eyes, but you feellike in its human form, bro bro
listen, you can't keep.
Like bro, don't come off.
It's almost like you can't lookat it too fast, otherwise it

(01:26:51):
just like stays in your headrent-free.
I'm like I don't need thenightmares fam Like look here,
you see this extra-largeHarvey's paper bag.
Put that on your head realquick.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
Well, we know the creep factor worked out very
well for you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I mean it's better, because you know how I felt
about season one, with the wholeeye contact thing, where it
just seemed like For some reasonit seemed like they were just
staring At the fourth wall.
Off we went and they're likeare you watching me?
Watching you?
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
I don't like it.
Did you rub my lap?
Did you wake me up?
did you bring me here and now,and now you're going to you know
, hey, listen y'all better, mindyour business oh, okay, also I
do want to mention I have I havemy own little promo video that
I talked to you about jv thatI'm working on.
I wanted mention this.

(01:27:50):
The whole time that I waswatching Adam's Family,
bookingcom kept popping up oncommercial for me, because, you
know, netflix has this thing nowwhere as soon as you pause it,
it automatically puts on the ad,and I'm like I just watched an
ad.
I don't have the unlimitedad-free version.
Stop this nonsense, I'm broke,just let me enjoy my show.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
But I will say the morticia episode, the morticia
own commercial for bookingcom,though I was like oh, yeah, now
now I remember, yeah, like I'llbe scrolling through tiktok and
I'll be seeing it every now andthen where, like she's on the
beach and whatnot, reading herbook on.
Okay, yeah, yeah, I know youtalked about it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
I'm not talking about the elude, because, if you pay
attention, because after Iwatched the series, when I went
back and looked at thatcommercial and she's actually
holding supposed, supposed to beholding one of her books that
she wrote, I was like, oh no, Isaid I see how y'all did it that
okay, okay, but hold on, uh,before we close, uh whatnot?

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
because there is some nerdy news that I want to play
through too, kelly, I gottaadmit, because we Kind of had
this highlighted moment Inseason one when, as far as
Eugene, I will say that I doApologize for the Great value
Naraku allegations, but he's notbeating the nurse.

(01:29:12):
You know Arborama allegations,with him being able to control
other insects, but and yet youdon't really see that playing a
big effect just yet.
So I'll leave Eugene alone fornow, but if we ever get to a
point to where he gets rejectedby a girl one too many times and

(01:29:37):
then he decides to okay, sincegirls don't want to fuck me,
then I guess I'm going to be thebad guy this bomb season.
I'm like you better pick upthat phone when I fucking call
it, you think he's going to besending bees to people.
I mean, we don't know yet.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Another fucking sign yo show from like Be like
Charlie Day.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Be like Charlie's mom , Always saying to her like,
just give him a box of hornet.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
Bruh, leave Eugene alone.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
He's just a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
He just likes his beef and he likes his moths.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
Come on.
She said that she was not readyfor a relationship, but she
lied to me she's dating thisother dude.
So now I'm going to fuck it upfor everybody, if it happens.
I'm just going to laugh.
I was saying Because, eversince he said the way that he

(01:30:52):
said it went on.
He said that oh yeah, I'm thetype of guy that girls
appreciate later, and then helooks out in the distance like,
oh no, eugene, don't do thatlike you, thinking like, oh yeah
, he's not gonna get any playanytime soon and he already
knows it.
So I'm like don't, don't tell mehe's going down the insta or at

(01:31:16):
some point.
But um, anyways, let's move on.
We got some nerdy news that Iwant to play through, mainly
concerning the nintendo direct.
So super mario Mario Galaxy andSuper Mario Galaxy 2 is
launching October 2nd on theSwitch.
I think it's going to be onSwitch and Switch 2.
Metro Prime 4 is comingDecember 4th.

(01:31:41):
Hades 2 launches on September25th.
We got a good look at a newYoshi game coming out Soon Star
Force.
The whole legacy Collection iscoming soon.
I'm kind of low key hyped aboutthat Because you know I'm a I'm

(01:32:02):
a fairly big Mega man fan.
I played a lot of games FireEmblem, they're getting a new
game, fortunes weed.
That's coming somewhere in 2026.
Uh, pokemon, poka, pokopia it'slike an animal crossing like
version.
Like that's crazy how, like youhave a problem with power world

(01:32:25):
, kind of copy your flow, butthen you're going to copy Animal
Crossing's flow and you knowwhatever.
Angela and Daredevil is goingto be part of the season pass
for Marvel Rivals.
And oh yeah, there was, like Ialready mentioned, the new Yoshi

(01:32:46):
game.
Hollow Knight.
Silksong is doing very well,like being re-released on
current-gen consoles, like doingpretty well and we got some
more Mega Evolutions for PokemonLegends EA.
So that was pretty much it.
There's a bunch of news goingon, mainly involving the

(01:33:08):
Nintendo Direct, but I justwanted to get that out there
before we close it out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
Can I mention something real quick about those
?
I'm probably not going to beable to be on the next Nerdy
News, though, depending on mywork schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Oh, that's, not until January anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
Nintendo fuck y'all motherfuckers.
Like you said yes, you feel madabout the fact, yes, every game
developing company is nowconcerned as hell.
Because here's the thing,because of how broad they made
that shit, it's actually a waydeeper effect than you really
think it is I'm talking about.

(01:33:45):
It's to the point.
Now to Final Fantasy games.
It ain't summoning whatsoever.
If you summon a giant robot,that can now count against that
patent.
If you summon the giant likejust a giant, like regular
summoning or something like thatcan go against that patent.
Literally everything now goesagainst that.

(01:34:05):
Goddamn pet bro bro.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
Yeah.
See that's the thing.
Some of them are like oh well,not only do we need to make sure
that Power World sufferedconsequences for what they did,
we need to make sure that nobodyever attempts this ever.
Like we're going to make surethat we corner market on Monster
Tank.
Like oh shit, dizzymonc mind,oh oh, you're asking for war.

(01:34:34):
With that said because, likeliterally, literally.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
There's a whole several articles out now with it
like this whole patent is nowbeing attacked and being
reviewed and potentially beattacked by all these other
gaming developers.
Nintendo wanted to go afterpower world.
They hit a major power, nowmade a giant power move that has
every single gaming companycoming against them, because a
lot of these games that's comingout has summoning systems are

(01:35:00):
all just normal.
Now look, here's the thingmarvel versus capcom.
You calling an assist counts asa summon.
So marvel versus capcom are youdoing?
Assisted attacks doesn't count,no more.
Yeah, kingdom Hearts is like,like I said, was the Final
Fantasy thing.
All of that.
That patent affects damn nearevery single game in existence.

(01:35:21):
Kingdom Hearts 4 now has thepotential of being further
delayed because of the fuckingpatent.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Oh, you're going to hear from Bandai Namco because
of the patent.
Oh you, you're gonna hear fromum bandai namco because of nerds
and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
You know somebody's, you know somebody's just
completely cut off, like you'renot allowed to do that.
Um substitution jutsu counts asthat too.
You're summoning a log typeanything, all that, all of it
and it.
It hits everybody and I'm like,no, fuck that shit.
Y'all y'all some bullshit.
Um, now I want to shout out tothe developers for um hollow

(01:35:55):
knight, because silk song, thesecond game.
Look, I done seen severalpeople playing it.
That game looks fucking amazing.
I can't wait to play it myselfwhen I get the opportunity.
First off, the first ever gameto break every single gaming
network.
You busted steam, xboxplaystation network and nintendo

(01:36:17):
switch online, nintendo online.

Speaker 1 (01:36:20):
All four of them broke the same day for four
hours oh, um, before I forgettoo, demon Slayer Infinity
Castle did very well in theatersmade $33 million on opening day
.

Speaker 2 (01:36:37):
Oh, it's already past $56 million.
We're still in the weekendreviewing this, Doing this
review.
It's already past $56 million.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
I mean yeah, but you know, I mean it's opening day,
like the very first day that I'mtalking like 33 in the first
day.
That was whoa, like everybodyshowed up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
Yeah, my niece told me.
She said it's so good.
Uncle Jerry, when you gonna gowatch it, I'm like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
I'm good I read the manga, so I'm good, I I'm like
you know, I'm good I read themanga, so I'm good I mean I'll
watch it when it's like On thestreaming, but like, yeah, you
know, I already know whathappened.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
So I don't know.
I'll probably be looking atthis being inside theaters for a
long time, so I don't know,we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
I mean, we'll see.
I know one thing for sure we'replanning on reviewing Demon's
Flayer In October, so we'reprobably going to talk about it
anyways.
Might as well go ahead and seeit when we can, if we can.
Gally Not going to take up toomuch time.

(01:37:45):
Is there anything you want toadd on To the Wednesday review
Before we close it out?

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
no, I don't think so.
I think I said everything Ineeded to say.
Thank you for having me on bad,bad, cool, cool, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
All right, let's just go ahead and close this out.
Uh, thank you to theparticipants for being on with
me for this.
Uh, go ahead and have yourselfa good morning, good afternoon,
good evening, good night.
Ultimately, do take it easy andremember that great things are
coming.
We're gonna stay nerdy twoyears until season three, by the
way, so I hope you got a lot onyour backlog as far as like

(01:38:26):
different shows or movies thatyou can watch and buy your time,
because you know there's gonnabe, uh, hold on, that's coming
out in like 2027, so it's gonnabe.
So, if it's two years, it's at2027.
Shit, secret Wars and a wholebunch of other shit's coming out
by then, and then we're gonnahave like, uh, doomsday and the
New Spider movie and a wholebunch of other shit happening in

(01:38:46):
2026.
So, yeah, by the time season 3comes out, it won't even feel
like a excruciating long time,but let's go ahead and zone up
out of here y'all, uh, yeah.

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