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Hank (00:06):
Welcome to the Home
Business Success Show.
Join us as we speak to homebusiness entrepreneurs for tips,
tricks, do's and even don'tsfor running a successful home
business.
Welcome everyone.
I'm Hank Eder, also known asHank the PR Guy, host of the
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Home Business Success Show, andyou're listening to bizradious
all entrepreneurs all the time.
Our guest today, Nicole Magic,has a unique blend of academic
prowess, including a bachelor'sdegree in biology and chemistry.
A bachelor's degree in biologyand chemistry and a master's
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degree in metaphysics, coupledwith real-world experience as a
financial advisor, nicole bringsa wealth of knowledge to the
table, but it doesn't stop there.
As an accomplished leadershipand empowerment strategist,
nicole has honed her craft tocreate a life-changing program
the Alchemy of Transformation.
This program goes beyondsurface-level change.
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It's about awakening your truepotential, erasing limiting
beliefs and guiding you towardsa life of fulfillment without
compromise.
Nicole's expertise has takenher to various platforms, from
radio shows to local TV and evento the travel channel for
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appearances on shows like theGreatest Mysteries, Smithsonian
and Beyond the Unknown.
Join us as we delve intoNicole's strategic approach,
combining the alchemy oftransformation, cognitive
behavioral therapy andneurolinguistic programming
techniques to help you overcomeself-sabotage and turn obstacles
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into opportunities for success.
We'll be doing this interviewin two parts and we'll be taking
a deep dive into overcomingseven deadly beliefs in business
.
Welcome to the show, nicole Hi.
Nicole (02:09):
Hank, thanks for having
me.
So good to be here.
Hank (02:12):
You're welcome If you
would just give us a few words
about what you do, so ouraudience can wrap their brains
around it.
Nicole (02:19):
I used to be a chemist,
so I was a leader in chemistry,
and I take that leadership andconscious leadership skills,
world life experiences,near-death experiences as well,
and bundle them all up into thealchemy of transformation, where
I help women leaders and salesteam leaders to go ahead, ahead
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and embrace their true potential, living fearlessly authentic
and harnessing the trueness oftheir business, aligning it with
their passion, their solepurpose, and achieving that
success that they deserve.
Hank (02:58):
That's a lot of things to
bring to the table, because some
people would consider some ofthose things being kind of
opposites, which sometimes, aswe know, opposites can really
attract.
Nicole (03:10):
True.
Yet I have this thing that theycall the golden brain, so I
operate using both sides of thebrain and I incorporate that so
I can make things make sense fora whole lot of people.
So that's why I can have aneclectic audience and still be
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able to tap into their needs andbe able to bring them to where
they need to go.
Hank (03:36):
Very cool For our audience
.
As far as I can recall, thegolden brain is the ability to
tap into the left side of thebrain and the right side of the
brain, equally creative side,and the analytical side, and I
don't remember what thepercentage of people that have
been found to have a goldenbrain are.
Can you remind me of that?
Nicole (03:58):
Oh, it's been so long
since I went into that, but it's
a very low percentage.
I don't know if it's less than5% or something.
I can't remember right now, butit's a very low percentage.
I don't know if it's less than5% or something.
I can't remember right now, butit's low.
Hank (04:08):
Yeah, I seem to be
recalling, now that you
mentioned it, maybe around 5%.
Well, let's move on, and I wantto ask you about this Helping
people overcome obstacles is avery big part of what you do.
When I spoke to you recently,we discussed seven deadly
beliefs in business.
What are those and what aresome of the ways we might
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overcome them?
Nicole (04:34):
Well, let's go through
them and we're taking a spin on
the seven deadly sins—pridegreed, wrath, envy, lust,
gluttony and sloth.
So we're looking at those.
So we'll start off with pride.
And when we look at pride inbusiness, it is the belief that
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in unassailability right thatyou're not liable to doubt,
attack or question.
And for the listeners out thereyou can kind of put into
perspective, especially if youwork in corporate America, think
about some of the bosses thatyou've had.
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Maybe you've had a boss or amanager or a coworker even that
felt that they're invincible, myway is the only way.
So that's kind of that beliefis I know everything or my way
is the best way, even thoughthey can acknowledge there are
other ways to do things, theirway is the best way.
So this basically stems from aninflated ego, the desire for
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superiority, and the behaviorsthat get displayed are they feel
the need to be dominant.
They're unwilling to listen orcollaborate with others.
They dismiss others' input.
Their ego gets in the way byrefusing to admit their mistakes
or any weaknesses that theymight have.
So they insist on being thesole decision maker.
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Therefore they need to havethat control right.
Yeah, I think we can all thinkof somebody that we've
encountered in life and inbusiness Right.
Hank (06:18):
I just want to bring up
this one thing.
Many, many years ago I probablywas 23 years old, I was a
reporter and I was leaving onevenue of the newspaper and
looking around for finding adifferent one and I interviewed
at this one paper, a very smallpaper somewhere in South Florida
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, and I had been interviewingfor a graphics design position,
which was like a 180 for mebecause I could do it, but I was
a reporter.
But I went to that interviewand I was met by a very
unpleasant man and he told methere's two ways of doing things
here the wrong way and my way.
The next day I called for thegraphics art position.
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I said I couldn't work for thatperson.
Yeah, so I know right whereyou're coming from.
Nicole (07:12):
Yeah, those are the
people that make people run and
hide.
You know, they have thiscognitive distortion with this
overestimation of their ownabilities and the
underestimation of risks.
So a question I like to askdebunking questions, right?
So what is a debunking questionthat we can ask about this is
you know what evidence actuallysupports my infallibility, right
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?
So we're looking at this fromthe self.
And where might you act inthose ways?
If you feel that you need tocontrol things or you have to do
it, or if it's going to taketoo long for someone else to do
it, that you're going to have todo it?
That's the way it shows up in myclients, where it's like, oh
yeah, I do have that, I do havethat.
And if you're an overachiever,really take a look at the
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awareness around this, becausethere is that sense that I have
to do everything in order for itto be right, or people have to
do everything my way in orderfor it to be right.
So what evidence supports myinfallibility is what you can
ask yourself.
Or how have past failureschallenged that belief that you
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have, that you know everythinghas to be done, that one
particular way we can reframethat belief by really embracing
humility and acknowledging thatthere is value in diverse
perspectives.
So getting curious around whatother people have to offer and
then determining does that helpthe situation.
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So the action that you can takeis actively seeking feedback
which might be a really bad Fword for some people in that
situation feedback and inputfrom others, because the
feedback is not an attack on you, it's a collaborative effort to
then elevate the whole team.
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So just remember that.
So that's how you can practicehumility by actively seeking
that feedback and be open toconstructive criticism and
cultivate that spirit ofcooperation Right Now.
Hank (09:21):
I found that some of the
best leaders are the ones who do
surround themselves with verycompetent people, and they
listen to them.
They're not like standing therecracking the whip and being the
last word on everything.
So, yeah, yeah.
Nicole (09:37):
Exactly Because when
you're in a position of true
conscious leadership, you wantto hear what other people have
to say, because that is going tobe a guiding force to go and
grow and develop a business in away in which that maybe this
one person hasn't thought of,because we're not perfect.
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And fostering thatcollaboration and acknowledging
that there are strengths inothers and bringing that
inclusivity into thatenvironment allows for people to
express themselvesauthentically and be in that
vulnerable space to throw out anidea, and maybe it will be
great and maybe it will not begood at all, but to be able to
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throw that out and be in a safeenvironment to even discuss it
is super important for that.
Hank (10:30):
Okay.
Well, for the sake of the timethat we've got, let's move on to
number two.
What's the number two?
Nicole (10:38):
Number two yeah, so
perfect timing too, because that
was wrapping that up.
So two is greed, the belief ininsatiable acquisition.
So if we look at that inbusiness, the belief is more is
always better and that successis measured by material wealth.
And is that really true?
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Well, some people have thatbelief that that is that it's
rooted in the fear of scarcityand the pursuit of status at the
same time.
So it can originate from thatscarcity mindset where
individuals believe thatresources are limited and one
has to accumulate and maybe evenhoard, so it's like a hoarder
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mentality to ensure thatpersonal security and success
are solidified in their world.
So it's reinforced by differentsocietal cultural messages that
equate to wealth is success,wealth is power, wealth is value
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.
So you're associating yourwealth and worth.
Hank (11:49):
That's like that other
definition of the golden rule
Whoever has the gold makes therules.
Nicole (11:55):
Yes, indeed For sure.
If you think about whether it'syour behaviors or people that
you've worked with, think aboutthe people that kind of hoard
the resources you know, thepeople that exploit others for
personal gain.
We're prioritizing profit overethics, and my favorite is I've
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known so many people, especiallyin the sciences, when I was a
chemist.
People would withholdinformation from others to feel
or hold like it's like jobsecurity or something that I
have to be needed.
So therefore, I'm going towithhold the information so that
I'm the one that people arecoming to and I'm the one who's
looked at as an expert, insteadof allowing for that
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transparency and collaboration.
Hank (12:48):
That is specifically a
scarcity mindset, because
there's really enoughinformation and there's enough
of everything really to goaround for everyone.
But I also saw that I mean Inoticed that 40 years ago in
jobs that I was working in and Ibelieve that today it's a
mindset that's part of the olderworld that's dying away, with
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some of the people of mygeneration, for example.
Yeah, absolutely.
Nicole (13:17):
It's sad, actually it's
sad to think that people have
such insecurities and you'regoing to start seeing that some
of these overlap and they feedinto each other.
So it's this propagation andpropelling and just
amplification of this negativetype of situation which just
brings that person deeper intothat snare.
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So when you're exploitingothers for personal gain or
taking advantage of employees,customers or suppliers for
personal profit, if you'redisregarding people's well-being
or rights, that's this, it'sall about the greed.
So the cognitive distortionthat goes along with that is
equating that wealth to worthdisregarding the human cost
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right.
So it's that zero-sum thinkingwhich assumes that you know if
someone else is going to gain,then someone else has to lose.
So I have to be in thatsituation to be in the game.
Hank (14:15):
I told that to one of my
clients yesterday or the day
before.
You are a winner.
Nobody else has to lose inorder for you to continue
winning.
Nicole (14:26):
Exactly yeah.
Hank (14:28):
Anyway, let's check out
number three All right.
Nicole (14:33):
So number three is about
wrath, the belief in vindictive
justice right.
So those who wrong me must bepunished.
Revenge is justified in thisbelief.
So when you look at people whoare behaving hostile, right,
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Hostile behavior towardscompetitors, micromanagement,
that the people that foster atoxic work environment, those
are the people that have thisway of thinking, that you know,
if I'm wrong, there's a certainamount of entitlement that they
believe in for themselvesbecause they have had trauma and
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pain and hurt in the past.
So it stems from unresolvedanger and the desire for
retribution.
Hank (15:24):
Who hasn't had unresolved
pain and loss in their past.
But there are ways to movebeyond it, to make it.
You know, so many people thinkthat where they've been is where
they are.
It really is not.
Nicole (15:41):
Right and then they
propagate that forward.
So it's that cognitivedistortion between the blurred
lines of justice and vengeancelike which is right.
Right, we can go intosuperheroes and super villains
at this point.
But the debunking questionmight be you know how does
retaliation serve the greatergood?
It doesn't, and whatalternative approaches promote
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resolution instead of you knowwhat you're doing because you're
overlooking long-termconsequences.
So, fostering a culture offorgiveness and conflict
resolution, prioritizingconstructive dialogue Again,
sometimes it goes back to thatfeedback.
Again, sometimes it goes backto that feedback.
So implementing mediation andconflict resolution is going to
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be the biggest part of this andunderstanding.
Hank (16:33):
Yeah, before I ask you
about number four, I want to say
that I've heard people say thatforgiveness it is sort of for
the other person but it's morefor ourselves, because if we
don't forgive, we're allowingthat person to live rent-free in
our brain and we're using upour valuable time and energy on
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that person.
So through forgiveness and justletting it go, we can move on
to something else.
Nicole (17:00):
Right, and sometimes
we're unforgiving because we're
still seeing some of that withinourselves.
And if you look at that type ofsituation somebody who is
trying to retaliate and lashingout in anger it sparks that in
you.
So that's why things getamplified and magnified to a
point where it's explosive, andmagnified to a point where it's
explosive.
So allowing yourself to forgivethe other person and yourself
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is really the way to go.
It's true, you give your powerover if you're not able to do
that.
Hank (17:32):
Yes, you give away your
power to others that way.
Let's get into number four.
Nicole (17:40):
Ooh, big one Envy, right
Envy.
When people are in the state ofenvy, there's this belief in
their own inadequacy, so the Iam not enough comes out, or the
belief that I must have whatothers possess because their
success diminishes mine.
So that kind of goes along withthat.
You know, zero mentality, right, a little bit about that.
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And so if you're looking at itas I'm not enough and I want
what others have because I don'tfeel adequate enough to get
there, I don't feel skilledenough to get there, it's rooted
in that insecurity and alsosomething that I see a lot in my
clients the comparison toothers else.
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Like if you start a businessand you're looking at somebody
else who is successful in thatbusiness, you're looking at that
person like, oh, they got thereand it was so easy for them.
And you know you compare yourgreatest perception of that
person to your lowest perceptionof yourself and it's it doesn't
equate at all, because you haveno idea what that person went
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through, the work that they hadto do, where they started off to
where they are now and what'sgoing on in their life right now
, either because nobody knowsthat with you either, and you
look at it and you're seeing.
You know I've had all thesechallenges and all this stress,
and maybe I had health issues orfamily stuff, and you know, I
started with nothing.
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Maybe, and maybe you'd thinkthat that person started with
nothing, but they might havestarted with a hundred thousand
dollars backing them up.
You don't know.
You don't know where they're at, so it's incomparable.
So the behaviors that peopleelicit under this is undermining
peers, sabotaging competitors,obsessing over rivals
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achievements, right.
And if we think about I meanI'm going to date myself here,
because when I was young it wasthe big Tanya Harding and Nancy
Kerrigan, right, the figureskaters where Tanya whacked
Nancy with her leg with a batonand took her out of the
competition, well, guess whatTanya did too Took herself out
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of the competition.
So you're obsessed over rivals'achievements to the point where
you're going to do things thatare just not right and they're
not humane either.
So ignoring your individualstrengths, fixating on perceived
shortcomings, is the cognitivedistortion that goes along with
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that.
Hank (20:15):
You know, it's very
interesting that envy is caused
by a lack of self-esteem andthis notion that we're not
enough, because you know we wantthese things.
But then sometimes we findfaults in others and we lash out
at others, and so many times,whatever it is that annoys us
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about someone else is somethingthat we're not facing in
ourselves, that we haveunresolved issues about and have
to let that go, and once we do,then we're not dealing with
that particular deadly habit ordeadly practice.
Nicole (21:05):
Yeah, and really
reframing it to cultivate
gratitude and celebrate othersuccesses as more of an
inspiration rather than a threator an attack on your own
ability.
So shifting that focus topersonal goals and development
and setting those milestones foryourself based on your own
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progress rather than thoseexternal comparisons.
Hank (21:30):
Very cool.
Well, you know we're prettymuch running out of time for
part one here, so if you wouldplease tell our listeners where
they can find you and how theycan connect if they would like
to work with you.
Nicole (21:41):
So you can connect with
me on magicllccom or my
marketplace is alsoNicoleMagiccom, and if you want
to just set up a quick 15-minuteis-this-right-for-me, call it's
NicoleMagicasme.
Hank (22:01):
And I'd like to tell our
listeners that magic is
M-A-J-I-K, m-a-j-i-k.
Well, thanks for being herewith us today, nicole, and to
our listeners, don't miss parttwo of this interview with
Nicole Magic next Wednesday onthe Home Business Success Show
right here on bizradious.
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Remember, you can achievesuccess, freedom and
independence in your ownhome-based business.
I've done it, nicole has doneit, and you can too.
I'll see you next week.
This is Hank Eder, wishing allof you a fabulous day of home
business success.