April 4, 2025 • 52 mins
In today’s episode, I sit down with Anthony, co-owner of Radiant Soul Yoga, whose journey is proof that change is possible when we’re willing to face ourselves—honestly. Through his own transformation, he’s come to see growth not as adding more but as letting go—unlearning the conditioned beliefs that keep us stuck. He challenges us to ask: Why do I do what I do? Why do I believe what I believe? And in that questioning, we find our way back to something simple yet profound—love, joy, and childlike wonder.
Anthony’s approach to yoga goes far beyond the poses. For him, it’s about presence—learning to play again, to meet ourselves without judgment, to let life flow instead of forcing it. He shares the power of mirror work, showing how our relationship with ourselves shapes the way we connect with others. And he reminds us that everything—everything—is temporary, which means we can hold life with both urgency and appreciation.
The episode ends with Anthony sharing an original song that embodies his philosophy: “I am no caterpillar, I am no butterfly, I am everything in between.” His music, like his teaching, invites us to embrace the messy, beautiful process of transformation while allowing ourselves to feel it all.
Whether you’re deep into yoga or just looking for a fresh perspective on being human, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about yourself and the stories you carry.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good afternoon and welcome to Everybody.
The podcast which sharesstories that highlight people in
life, that make the world aninteresting place, which
ultimately ties us all togetherin unique and wonderful ways.
And who am I?
You might ask.
I would be the head-wrappedsocialite, wife, mom,
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micro-influencer in the fashionand etiquette world, but on this
podcast I will be introducingyou to some people who I've had
the opportunity to meet along myjourney, who have helped enrich
me and my life in beautifulways and who I hope will do the
same in yours.
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There are some people who don'tjust walk their path.
They light the way for others.
My guest today is one of thoserare souls.
He believes in the power ofself-discovery, not just as a
personal journey, but assomething to be shared,
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something to be guided with care, patience and love.
As a co-owner of Radiant SoulYoga, anthony has dedicated his
life to creating space fortransformation, for growth and
connection.
What I've learned about him ishe doesn't just teach people
yoga.
He helps people reconnect withthemselves and peel back the
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layers, step into their fullestexpression.
That's part of his mission tobe a loving guide for as many
humans as he can in his lifetime.
Please help me in welcoming myfriend Anthony to today's
episode.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's an honor, honor, honor to be here and to share
the vibration, stories, the pathFor sure.
So thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Anthony, can you tell the listeners a little bit
about who you are?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I suppose that's you know, it's loaded.
Who I am, uh, you know, as froma philosophy viewpoint I just
am, and who I choose to practiceor be is that loving guide to
support people in theirawakening, if you will?
So that really comes down to it.
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I could say I am a musician,I'm a teacher, I'm a father, I'm
a husband, I'm all the things,but I'm not those things.
Those things are part of myhuman experience, but they don't
define me, nor do Iover-identify with them anymore.
You know, it's really part ofwhat I want to help people
figure out, like, what are youidentifying with?
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Because ultimately, the I am isthe simplest aspect of being.
I am, you are, and then you getto choose, you know, but the
words you choose don'tnecessarily identify or define
you, and if they do, then in myhumble opinion that causes a lot
of suffering, because whenthose things go away, then your
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identity is gone.
You know, so I am in part.
You know, all the other piecesand parts that I play are now
aligned with my heart, whereas,you know, a long time in my life
they were not aligned with myheart, whereas you know, a long
time in my life they were notaligned with my heart.
It was all ego and judgment andjust a mess, and so that's
another piece of that passion.
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Here is what yoga and thepractice of doing this you know
breath and movement, what it hasdone for me.
You know they try to say, oh,people don't change.
And if people only knew.
You know some people do knowsome of the things I've done and
things I've seen.
I'm living proof.
People do change actually andchange is inevitable and most
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people do suffer because theydon't want to change.
You know the partner neverchanged.
You know anti-age, all the shitthat we get wrapped up in like
don't change, it's change.
That's the only certainty.
Change, death and uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And outside of that I play parts that lie with my
heart.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Thank you, that's so beautiful.
One thing that stuck out to meis when you say that I am, it
encompasses so much more thanwho we actually are.
I think about you, know my own,the identity of who others also
perceive you to be, in that youstart to lose who you should be
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.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
What I appreciate about the space that you offer
is that you tell us be in thismoment to see that I am so much
more than what this body holdsat this moment.
It encompasses so much morewhat this body holds at this
moment.
It encompasses so much more.
It's centuries, it's all theenergies that we carry of our
former self, our familialbaggage, happiness, whatever it
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is.
You know, we are all of that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And on the same breath, we are not all of that.
Those things are just parts ofthe journey.
There's circumstances andsituations that did help shape
and form us to where we are as aperson now.
But in a sense, if I was thethings of my past, I would still
be an alcoholic and an assholeand a negative person because
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those things shaped my life upto my 30s person, because those
things shaped my life up to my30s.
So that's the really key pointis like I honor my past, my
heritage, traditions, all thethings, but I also know that
those things are not me.
Even up to recent years, youknow, I've had issues with just
my heart, understandingrelationships.
You know there's stuff aboutmonogamy and non-monogamy and
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all things, and it was all egoand now I'm just, I'm done with
it.
You know, finding that space toreally say like your past is
not you, the pieces and partsthat did bring you to exactly
where you are right now.
But again, the same guidelineapplies with that I am, I don't
identify with it, it does notdefine me, and most people they
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see that you did this in thepast.
Yep, I did, and you can sitthere and judge me all day, or
you can move past it and we cangrow together.
I mean, it's up to you.
But it is that point wherepeople do get wrapped up in I am
my past, I am my family and Iam these things and like, no,
you're not.
Those things have shaped youand you can continue to allow
them to shape and support yourgrowth.
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But ultimately it's aboutletting all that go, basically
unlearning.
You know, the more that I grow,the more I unlearn, the more
that I know that I don't know.
And so we're just coming to thespace where people are seeking
I want to learn what book, whatteacher?
The best thing you can do isreally focus on unlearning,
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taking off the layers.
You know you're getting to thespace, to where you're
unlearning the ways of anegregious culture.
You're unlearning the ways ofgreed and fear and remembering
the ways of love and joy which,in my humble opinion, are the
human essence.
And if people want to arguethat, it's like look at a child,
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no matter where they're at,look at a child and see that
that's where we all started,that's where we all come from,
that joy, that wonder, thatbliss, that curiosity, and it
gets muffled and to a certainpoint at an age where we are
asking all the questions and oneday a person that you respect
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says because I said so, insteadof actually answering the
question, and then the next daythey say stop asking so many
questions, and then the next dayyou just stop asking questions
and then we grow and thequestions just stop.
So from this place, I think abig point of kind of starting
the process of awakening, if youwill, is ask yourself questions
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why do I do what I do?
Why do I go where I go?
Why do I talk how I talk?
Why do I dress how I dress?
Why do I like what I like?
What do I believe?
Why do I believe what I believe?
And when you can fully answerthose questions to yourself,
there you are.
Because a lot of times theanswer to most of those
questions is because they saidso, because I want to attract
this person, because I want tofit in over here, because I was
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born that way, because I wasborn into.
You know, religion isgeographic.
It's insane how much we tieinto the stories and you get to
choose, like how you feed thatand how you live that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
When do we lose that childlike wonder?
Do we become so jaded bysociety that all of a sudden I
can't see anything in front ofme?
We, as beings, we were meant toexperience the whole.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
The answer to me.
In my own opinion, the momentthat we stop being a child or
have the childlike mind is themoment that we start over-caring
about what other people thinkand so it just like drowns out.
So the curiosity like, well,why do that?
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And I feel that they mightjudge me or they might not like
me, so how do I fit in?
And that openness just closesup and then it just becomes more
and more layers until we'reready to wake up, if you will.
And again, you know, it'sinteresting that in the Western
world if someone says, stopacting like a child, right,
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because our idea of a child istantrum, issues, you know,
over-emotional.
And now in the East they saychildlike mind.
Because of the beauty ofcuriosity, wonder, you know,
blissful vibration of like, Ilove life, that's childlike mind
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.
But interestingly enough,because of our culture and the
way we've been conditioned,childlike mind here is deemed
negative and so interesting tome and I've been really noting
that like for me to return tothat child like.
We don't.
You know, we don't stop playingbecause we grow old, if, if you
will, like the mentality andvibrations.
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We get old because we stopplaying and youth is in you.
Youth is eternal.
It has nothing to do with howmany times you've been around
the sun on this planet.
Youth is of the spirit, if youwill, and of the heart and soul,
and that is forever you knowbeyond our comprehension.
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But that says again, play, andthat's why I offer that so much
in the yoga room.
Like play on your mat, eat onyour hands, do some cartwheels,
Do something to break that, likeI'm an adult and I'm serious.
Break it up, have some fun andthat's a big piece for wellness
in general overall.
Just have fun, enjoy your life,enjoy being a human.
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You know there's so much moreto it than just like job, sleep,
home, eat, sleep.
You know, gym, do the thingsjust like.
You know.
There's those mundane practicesthat most of which do serve in
their own right, but you have tofind that space in lambliting
and to really be able to justplay, whatever that means to you
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as a person.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know it's individual play, just play yeah,
I noticed that when you do saythat on the mat and you're like
play you know, I always have asmile on my face because a part
of me does revert back to when Iwas that seven-year-old girl
playing hopscotch or doubledutch.
You know, if only for a littletiny moment.
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It is there and, like you said,youth springs eternal.
And if we can connect to theinner child, we'll still find
the wonder in the world.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Right, and it's still there Now.
Therein lies the beauty of thechallenge, of the words we use,
right?
So when I say I want to connectwith that means you're
disconnected.
So you can't disconnect.
It's always there, you'realways connected to that
beautiful child.
So the intention is to justremember, you know, start to
unpack it and open it and feelit and remember, like every time
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, you just take that smile, takethat moment to enjoy that open
awareness that she or he, thatthat vibration, that they, it's
there, it's always there.
There is no disconnect, youcannot disconnect from it.
It's, it's, it's more so, likeI just forgot, and so now I'm
remembering, and that makes it alot easier, because if you see
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a disconnect, like, how do Ireconnect?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It makes all this work.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
What's the formula?
You know there's no formula.
It's just remember who you are,what you are and that essence
of a child, that essence of joyand bliss and wonder, it's there
always.
This practice is about makingit accessible.
Know, it's there always.
This practice is about makingit accessible.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Know it's always available.
Listeners, as you can see, thisis why I love going to
Anthony's classes.
You learn so much.
You learn more about who youare becoming.
During parts of the yoga classhe asked you find your eyes in
the mirror and sometimes it ishard to look at the person who
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is in front of you, but there'sso much more to the depths of
our being.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Like you said, you know that child is there, you
know you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
could you say it much more eloquently A lot of the
eye gaze like to yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
First, it really starts with like discomfort.
Most people can hardly look atthemselves for a few moments in
the mirror without extremediscomfort or awkward energy.
So you're looking at yourself.
Now the question arises if youcan hardly look at yourself and
connect to you in the mirror fora couple minutes, how do you
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expect to connect to any otherhuman being?
You really can't.
There's a block there.
There's an unwillingness toopen to yourself.
Thereby, inevitably, there's aclear unwillingness to open to
anybody else.
So superficial.
Sure, I love you, I see you,but if you don't see and love
yourself, that love issuperficial for others and
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people do not like to hear thatis superficial for others and
people do not like to hear that.
You know, if you can not loveyourself on a full level, you
really can't truly love anyoneelse, and this is one that's
really hard for people toswallow and it's as real as it
gets, though.
I mean generally, how you seeyourself and how you treat
yourself is how you willultimately treat and see others,
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and even in the beginning ofthis path for me, you know, I
saw myself as almost holier thanthou bullshit, you know, and I,
and so I started treatingpeople like less than.
And I caught it, I noticed itfrom the help of some friends
and family and people like hey,you know, this feels like this,
and I'm like no, like hey, youknow, this feels like this, and
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I'm like no, it doesn't shut up.
And then I'm gonna go throughthe motions and then, ultimately
, the practice is aboutlistening and hearing and really
tuning in.
When you hear something thatyou're resistant to, like why?
Oh, because it's not true.
Well, if it wasn't true, youwouldn't be so defensive.
So that is like okay, so youknow, you tune into that
vibration to how you treat andsee yourself becomes literally
how we treat and see one another, becomes how we treat and see
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the planet, becomes how theworld is changing Again from the
inside out.
You know that's where thelooking at yourself and making
that connection to really breakfree from you know, the fear of
connecting with people Becausethat's a general point, know
we're afraid, you don't want toget hurt and ultimately the
heart does not hurt, the egohurts, so that your feelings get
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hurt.
It's like okay, you know again,people are doing what they know
best and generally it's defense, you know, coming from a place
of fear.
So that's the point of the eyegaze to look at yourself and
just see.
Okay, can I look and really seelove?
And I really like receive whatI see and accept what I see.
Because body dysmorphia, youknow, for a lot of people men
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too people don't think men areweird about their bodies, but we
are and that's part of it too.
I want to be this, I want tolook this way and skinnier,
taller, more muscles, whatever.
But there's not acceptancethere, there's identification
and judgment there and this iswhere, again, the challenge to
see that and see through it thatbreaks open in a deep way your
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life and changes.
It changes everything.
There was a magazine cover a fewyears back, I digress, but that
I was at the store and juststarted my yoga practice and in
bold letters it said yoga willruin your life.
And I was like on guard.
So then, when I'm standingthere looking and fine print
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underneath it said as you knowit, and I was like, hmm, okay.
So when I really really nowreflect back as like, yoga did
ruin my life, the circumstancesand stories as I knew it,
because I mean, it changedeverything, from again the way I
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think to the way I walk, to theway I stand, the way I played,
the way I love people, to theway I share my heart and soul in
that room and everywhere I goand song.
You know all of it.
It ruined my life as I knew it.
Um, and a lot of people willattest to that.
As far as like even you see alot that like divorce rate,
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because a lot of women arewaking up and a lot of husbands
blame me and blame yoga.
But it's like, dude, all youhave to do is walk the path like
wake up, get out of that toxicmasculinity right, face your
shit and you can be there foryour fucking partner.
Now, again, I've had likecomplaints, man, a nerd, my wife
wants this, and now she's gotyep, so what?
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She's a human.
She deserves like equal share,like and I've been through it,
I'm going through it with mywife.
We're trying, I'm trying to bemore aware of like the
patriarchy and like I expectthis and come home, and so I'm
trying to work with that, likeI'll do some dishes after she
cooks and like help out.
Now I tell her the same thingis like you gotta let me know,
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though, because this is such aningrained thing Like we don't
even think about it.
It's just like that's what womendo, that's what men do, and I
call bullshit.
You know, step up, like all ofus, like, wake up and let that
shift be a positive thing.
So the rule in your life islike man, you know it's a bit
intense, but it will change itintensely and then again the
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life is questionable,questionable, and then I'll get
off this tangent.
But the word life, right, lifeis a beach, life is hard, life
is.
Life is simply beautifully hereit is.
Life is.
There is no nothing after that.
Life is not good, not bad, itlife is.
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So we confuse circumstances andsituations for life, for sure
the same way as we confusecircumstances and situations for
the vibration of the day.
So I ask anybody, how was yourday?
Oh, I had a shitty day, like no, you didn't actually, you had a
beautiful gift of day withshitty circumstances.
And secondly, you know, thecircumstances don't have to be
shitty, they can be a challenge.
So it's just a shitty attitude,if you ask me so.
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So what's really shitty here isyour attitude.
And as judgmental as thatsounds, you know it's just
facing the facts.
You have a shitty attitudeabout it.
So you're going to continue onthat path with the shitty
attitude and suffer.
Or you can change your attitudeand it's not going to be this
blissful, spiritual, bypassingfuck that.
It's.
Feel it all, but feel it withan open awareness that you are a
conduit friend, that energypasses through you as much as
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you will release it, or yourbody becomes a sponge and you
hold it and get sick.
So again, I digress, but yeah,that's what I do I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
See, you will fit right in here because I tend to
digress a lot.
Now you have described yourselfas a loving guy to
self-discovery.
What does that mean to you andhow did you come to embrace that
role in your life?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, I didn't even embrace that role per se because
it didn't come up until youasked me the question, so it
wasn't really something that I'mlike.
This is what I am.
It's impossible to explain andhow these things come up or how
I, you know, talk about.
What I talk about, it's myheart, it's it's life, studies
and practices of circumstancesand situations and learning from
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the space.
That is non-judgmental.
So I've never really thought ofthat as my role per se until
the question was asked, and sowhat that means to me is
supporting people in the processof discovering who they
actually are.
And again, the who you are iswho you want to be, who you
choose to practice.
The deep point of that is doesthat align with your heart, like
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really?
And so a lot of people play theparts that don't align with
their hearts.
They play the part that alignwith your heart, like really
yeah.
And so a lot of people play theparts that don't align with
their hearts.
They play the part that alignswith culture.
I'm supposed to, I should do.
I stopped shooting on myselfyears ago.
I don't do, should anymore.
It's like I choose and I chooseto to do this or that, and so,
in my humble opinion, you knoweven the vibration of
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self-realization.
That is one of the greatestgifts that you can give to the
world.
Straight up self-realization,know yourself, share that out,
because ultimately, underneathall the bullshit, it is love,
bliss, joy.
And if you're willing to dothat work, that self-realization
is what I guide through Again,through movement, through breath
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, through mindful awareness, andquestion everything you know.
And that says again, I'm notagainst anything, I'm just
curious about everything.
So, I'll ask all the questions.
You know, and a lot of peopledon't like that, especially when
it comes to like religion orpolitics.
It's just like ask questionsCause I call bullshit, you know,
on all of it.
And even in the spiritual worldright now, like it's a fucking
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mess out there, so many peopleexploiting seekers and oh, if
you do this you'll get that, andyou know this is not that.
But yeah, ask questions,challenge it.
But for me, that guide toself-realization is exactly that
Move your body, question things, deep breath, drink the water,
eat.
Well, you know, I mean I eat.
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Okay, I eat good because mywife cooks great food.
That's fantastic, that'smagnificent, but if it wasn't
for her, it would be like hotpockets of peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches and that's finetoo.
I think, a big part of themissile on diet.
I'm not going to go all intothat, but it's like this culture
has got that shit twisted.
Like three meals a day, blah,blah.
There's days where I only eatone meal a day and it's
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listening to my body.
But ever since we're in the eye, you know, eat all your food at
that table and this is the timewe eat.
And it's like the body and theenergy of, like the animal I
don't believe is created forthat.
Like you feel it and dependingon the energy exert, you put the
fuel back in.
And if I'm not feeling likefueling, then I'm not going to
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fuel, not because of a time ofday, you know, or because you
say I'm supposed to eat rightnow.
No, thank you, I'm not hungryactually.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Delving a little bit deeper.
So what was your personaljourney of self-discovery?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
like I mean it was a mess.
It was a mess.
It was a mess because I didn'thave a guide, I didn't have a
mentor, I didn't have a teacher,it was just me and my ego.
And my ego took over for like 15years, maybe even 16 or 17,.
Actually, I don't know if youknow this about it.
Um, if I'm being honest aboutit, um, yeah, I didn't have a
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teacher, so it was just a mess.
You know, I, I was all over theplace, you know, subscribing to
this and that and all theenergies and chakra, this and
like.
I don't.
Again, I'm not denounceanything.
I'm not god, you know all thethings.
I don't denounce it.
I'm just willing to admit Ihave no idea.
So, chakras, great, greatconcept, great theory, but I
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don't know.
I don't know that there'slittle spinning circles of
energy up my spine and I'm notgoing to pretend that there are.
You know, I can honor thatvibration and whoever wants to
subscribe to that go right ahead.
But for me, I did subscribe tothat for a while and I got lost
in it, just like again, again,that kind of holier-than-thou,
better-than vibration came upand just gross, and so the
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practice for me was continuing Ifell, I rise, I fell, I rose, I
fell, I rose, and every time Ifell I got up a little slower
and just paid a little moreattention, and that's the
vibration of the definition ofinsanity is doing the same thing
over and over and expectingsomething different For sure.
And so I had to go through it.
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And it was well over a decadeof just like deep digging,
diving shitty mess, slugfest,until I realized, like what the
what am I fighting?
What am I fighting actually?
But we're taught good and evil,right.
So the light wolf, the darkwolf which one do you feed Again
, theory judgment Is that whereyou're going to go with it, or
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you can realize that there wasno fucking fight at all.
You don't have to fight.
It's not a fight, it's aboutsurrender.
It's the exact opposite.
No-transcript, a space ofsurrender.
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Like just stop buying shit.
Yeah, stop buying so much shitbecause we put the money in
their pockets.
Like we're making this, thiscapitalism, yeah, we've done it,
we've created it.
So I don't know why people aresurprised that it is how it is
right now, like money rules,because we have given it that
power.
So taking that back is is partof the practice as well.
But yeah, my, my whole journey,I mean it started on my mat and
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it's spread out and againthere's a mess.
The shit show, if you will, allthe way up to recent years,
like really dialing into, like,oh there, I am okay, I've missed
you and I can honor all theshit that I've done and been
through, even on the yoga path.
Um, just because it's, it's hassupported me to this point yeah
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but again, I don't identifywith it yeah
no, so it was that.
I don't know if that answersyour question fully, but yeah,
it's just been getting on themat, falling, rising, you know,
relations falling, rising,trying to figure out you know
who I am on that level likeagain, with just relationships
in general, friends, you know mywife and trying to maybe to
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open the marriage and just mess,fucking mess, just a mess.
And now I, you know, after alot of trials and tribulations,
I'm free and it feels reallyreally good and that is what,
like the passion for me sharingthis path is.
It's again it comes back towhat it has done for me how much
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it has transformed me as aperson on so many levels.
And there's one human thatreally really knows that on a
deep soul level, which is mywife, andrea, and we've been
together for 19 years, married,but before that we got married
for a trip to Jamaica and it Imean we got married to for a
trip to jamaica and to just likeit was what we're supposed to
(27:50):
do, and so that was what it was.
And all the way through thispath, you know, we've had our
hits and misses and why really,let's get divorced and we're not
gonna work together, and thennow we're just perfectly good
and, and you know, sortingourselves out like in the best
way of communicating we haveseparate rooms is when we're
gonna get a divorce legally.
Years ago we just split up yeah, this is my room, that's your
(28:12):
room when we decide to come backtogether.
We both agreed like, I want myown room my own bed, my own
space, and we're like, yes,please.
So now I, I suggest andrecommend that to everybody.
If you have the means, get yourown room, because you get to
design it.
This is your space to just gowhen you need it in your home,
(28:34):
but otherwise it's just, it'sthe smash together that you do
not identify with, but it's justyou two and there is no space
for just you.
So, if you have the means, getyour own room.
That was a game changer,especially because we all sleep
different, right, and our sleepschedules were different.
I work on the weekends.
I'm up at five o'clock in themorning.
(28:55):
She likes to sleep until likesix, seven.
You know she's weekday onweekend.
It's just.
It made sense.
Yeah, I sleep like this, I'mjust right out, sprawled, and it
made sense.
Yeah, I sleep like this andjust right out, sprawled, and
she likes 38 pillows andweighted blankets and just one
blanket and one pillow, simple.
So you get your own vibration.
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It's huge.
My point is, you know we've beentogether for a really long time
.
She's seen the darkest parts ofme.
I've known her since I'm fiveyears old.
You know we're family friends.
We've known each other like forour entire life.
And now we're at this placewhere it's like we just like the
deep kind of love that that isis beyond comprehension, like no
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matter what the future holds.
It's like we, we know, likethat's your person in in a sense
.
I don't connect like thatanymore for anyone.
I don't recommend it for anyonebecause, again, things change,
people change and that couldchange for her.
It's weak.
She could be like I don't feelthis anymore and it would.
It would suck, but I know Iwould be okay because that's a
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part of it too.
When we don't attach to, thisis my person, this is my uh,
just like anything, right?
Non-attachment is not aboutdetachment.
Non-attachment is aboutunderstanding that if and when
how about when these things goaway person, thing, substance
you're going to be okay.
That's not attachment.
Attachment is if I don't havethis, I'm gonna lose my shit,
(30:21):
this person's gonna, I can't, Ican't even that's attachment and
that's dangerous, right.
So non-attachment says whenthese things go, because they
all will at some point right yep, all of it will.
Yeah, I will be okay.
So, yes, it'll hurt, or, yes, Igo through the grieving.
Whatever it is, for whateverreason, whatever the vibration
(30:41):
it's.
It can be a challenge, but Iwill be okay.
I am already okay and, fromthat space, understanding that
applies to everyone andeverything.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That's interesting that you would say it like that,
because at the root of it allis love, like we're experienced.
But we have to recognize itAttachment.
So, as some of the listenersknow, it'll be eight years this
year that my mom passed away.
My world crumbled, the worldthat I knew it crumbled because
(31:11):
you know she was my best friend.
I talk about a hundred times aday as if she was next door.
But now I can see, looking back,there were a lot of moments
that she was already kind ofpreparing me, not that she knew
she was if the time was coming,but she was kind of preparing me
where she was going to launchme and she'd always tell me at
some point I'm not going to behere anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Preparing me, but I didn't want to see it because I
am attached to her.
That is my mother.
I need her.
But in that I have been able tosee, not that it still doesn't
hurt, it just hurts in adifferent way.
I am okay.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's taken me eight years and I'm sure it will take
another hundred years.
Thank you, Mother.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But yeah, none of this will be forever, and I have
been marinating on this eversince I started taking your
classes.
Is you say, enjoy this moment,for this moment, too, shall pass
.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I feel like that's a very important staple point of
this practice in general.
Actually, this too shall pass,as I say in class.
It's really easy to apply thatwhen things are uncomfortable or
when things are painful.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
This too shall pass.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's almost like a bypass, so you don't actually
feel it or you get to say, ohyeah, it's going to be better
one day applies even more soimportantly for people to
understand.
This two-shot pass applies tothe positive aspects, to all of
the things that you will everexperience, and so you know when
, generally, when people hearthat it comes, fear comes first.
(32:41):
Right, oh my god, attachment.
And so I I want to be aroundthis and do this more because
it's going to be gone, insteadof actually just being in that
moment and appreciating it forwhat it is, because it will be
gone.
So this is why every class Iteach is from a place of passion
(33:01):
and from a place of like.
I know this could very well bethe last class I teach, so I'm
going to come with my heart.
I'm going to give my everythingin every class I guide, because
I know full well that might bethe last one.
Every time I sing, I sing frommy soul, because I know full
well my voice.
Tomorrow I might lose an arm, Imight not be able to play
guitar, I might die.
(33:23):
I mean this could be the lasttime.
No-transcript you soon, or I'mhopeful to see you again, and I
(33:53):
feel like that was a bit much.
It was freaking people out, sothat's why, so I'm stuck.
But it was the reality, man.
I hope I see you again.
I don't know, I mean not, younever know, and nobody thinks
they're gonna die.
The human brain can't evenfully comprehend what that means
, that you're not gonna existsoon.
You know soon as subjective,but you're not gonna exist and
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we just cannot, can't compute.
No, I'll see you tomorrow.
I'll see you again.
You might not, and so honor thetime that you get and share it
out and that is the essence ofthis too shall pass Not from
fear and attachment, but justgrateful for everything you get
to do For sure, for everythingthat your body does for you.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You know this kind of energy.
It's a lot of information, ifyou will, but it comes down to
common sense.
You know, there was something Iwas watching a few years ago and
there's common sense specialist.
That sums it up.
You know that this is all aboutcommon sense and common sense
is not so common these daysbecause everybody is just like
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following the lead, like a bunchof lemurs walking off a cliff,
instead of actually likestopping, feeling like, yeah, if
I eat poison and get sick, andthen I wonder why I'm sick but I
keep eating poison.
That's the same with negativethoughts.
It's the same with shittyprocessed foods.
It's the same with, you know,not breaking the water and not
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moving your body.
But you wonder, you know, whyam I not as flexible?
Because you don't fuckingstretch.
You know why am I so done it up, but again, or just like
blinders on seeking this quickfix pill.
The instant gratification,that's the age of instant
gratification.
That's gone on for far too longand it's like none of this is
(35:43):
instant in a sense.
But the practice of thisdrinking the water, stretching
your body, mindful thinking,that's the answer to a lot of
issues in our tissues.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Drink water, deep breath, mindful movement,
mindful thinking.
Outside of that, yes, there areother things with
pharmaceuticals and differentthings that serve the human body
, but there is a veryfundamental point that a lot of
people are missing out on.
Deep breath is a huge one.
They say that you know 50conscious breaths a day will do
more for you than any self-helpbook or any practice 50
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conscious breaths and people tryto say I don't have time for
that.
You breathe all day.
You know you can do it anywhereanytime just 50 conscious
breaths.
And you can do it anywhereanytime just 50 conscious
breaths.
And if you know, your mind'sgoing to wander.
So then maybe you start with 12conscious breaths.
Let's set a goal.
Maybe I will get to 50 andmaybe I'll go further than that,
and then one day you're goingto realize, like how much you're
not actually breathing and howmuch these breath work practices
(36:38):
actually do help.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
And when you talk about 50 conscious breaths, what
do you mean to someone who hasnot practiced yoga?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
That means I would sit down and go two deep breath
in fill up the lungs, empty itout.
Three deep breath in fill upthe lungs, empty it out.
Four all the way to 50.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Full conscious breaths.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
No, you can't think when you're focused on your
breath.
Actually, if you're trulyfocused on like I breathe in, I
breathe out, you can't think.
That's the cool part about likethe practice on the mat, when
you really get into the breathand rhythmic movement, it is
virtually impossible to think.
If you're focused and presentnow, you can wander off, but
then you're not focused on yourbreath.
If you're focused on yourbreath, you cannot actually
(37:23):
think per se.
Again, the thoughts are Ibreathe in, I breathe out, you
know, and and thereby you can'tthink so, if I'm saying taking
that breath, breathing out one,really focusing on that breath
and focusing on the way it feelsto expand those lungs and empty
(37:43):
those lungs and really, reallyfocus on the physical attributes
of what you're doing, it'simpossible to think Again it'll
come up, it'll trick in in andthen you just start back over.
Maybe not zero, maybe you staywith the number you're at, but
just give it time and give itspace to say like 50 conscious
breaths and doesn't have to beall grandiose, just big.
(38:04):
Fill up the lungs, empty thelungs one.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Fill up the lungs and the lungs two and is that why
you direct us so many timesduring class to focus on the
breath?
So you're bringing us back,knowing that some of us will
wander?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
yeah, absolutely.
Then when you bring back to thebreath and again a part of it
with vinyasa is the breath,obviously we're moving and
breathing the flow, but again,you know, bringing it back to
the breath brings you back topleasant moment and it allows
your body to be at ease, becausewhen you stop breathing, your
body panics and generally whenwe're moving and our body's
panicking we're going to getinjured.
(38:40):
So breathing into that isletting your body know it's okay
, even if it's challenging.
I'm breathing and my body knowsit's okay.
So that's why you hear it in alot of classes.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
If you can't breathe it, you're doing too much and
you're stressing out your body.
Breathe into that edge and letthat grow from the breath, thank
you.
So yoga for some of us who havenot practiced before is often
seen as a physical practice.
As you speak more and moreabout it, I hope the listeners
are also seeing that not only isit physical, but it's deeply
tied to mental and emotionalwell-being as well.
How do you help people movebeyond the physical practice
(39:22):
into a deeper understanding ofthemselves and who they hope to
be?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Well, I support people, right, so I give you
tools and then you have to helpyourself.
Outside of that, it's aboutrepetition.
So some people come in here,there's gym mentality and that's
fine, but if you're really openand hearing that, it's about
repetition.
So some people come in herejust gym mentality and that's
fine.
But if you're really open andhearing it, it's going to shift.
It's inevitable.
So the practice for me it'slike I'm not trying to tell you
to do anything, just coming inand sharing my heart and sharing
(39:46):
the vibration, the wisdom.
If you will, Eventually,eventually in time, if you're
consistent, it's gonna change.
It's gonna shift.
Your intentions are gonna shift.
Your awareness and energy about, like, why you're there is
gonna shift.
If you're staying true to itand really consistent with it,
it'll shift inevitably.
So I don't have to do anything,I'm just supporting and sharing
(40:07):
and then it's up to thepractitioner to keep it up and
dedicate their vibration to thatwhich inevitably will shift.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So I'm going to call you the guide of support.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Right and just holding that space, and it's
really really just supportingpeople on their path to so they
can help themselves.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I know fear and resistance are common roadblocks
to the practice are commonroadblocks to the practice, and
also fear as it relates toself-discovery, because some
people are scared of discoveringwho they truly are right.
How do you guide, being thesupportive guide that you are,
people through those moments ofthat discomfort?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Well, I would just say again the reminders of
breathing and feeling andhonoring that like, like even
sometimes the fear is not real,no, it's coming from a place of
like disbelief, and and againI'll circle back.
But to say who they are right,it's not fear of who they
actually are, it's fear ofletting go of the identity, of
who you think you are.
So the fear is, it's not aspowerful as you think it's, it
(41:15):
is what you feed it.
And now if that fear says, ohmy god, this is my identity, I
can't let that go, then thatthen that makes it that much
more challenging to reallyunderstand what that means.
To identify with the actual you.
You know, and the actual you,again, is not even about
identifying but just knowing.
You know, so that, like, themost of the fear is coming from
(41:36):
a place that says I can't let goof that identity because I
don't know who I am.
But the practice that I wouldguide is to say let go of that
and so that you can understand,like your choice to be who you
want to be and how you want tobe, because you know.
I think a more appropriatequestion of like you know, when
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they say existential crisis andpeople are like who am I?
It's ridiculous.
You are who you choose to be.
You are who you practice Like.
That's your choice.
What you are there is a mindblower.
You know because we don't knowultimately.
You know the vibration of theearth, the dirt of the earth is
in our blood.
They say, theoretically, the,the dust and the stars is in our
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bones and the, the salt of theocean is in our sweat.
Like what are we?
We are everything.
It's like amazing.
So that's more appropriate totry to really sort dig.
Like what am I versus who am I?
Because who I am is my choice,that's my practice.
But who people identify with atfirst is where that fear base
(42:40):
comes to, to shift.
So again, my, my suggestionsare like okay, who you identify
with now is does that reallyalign with your heart?
Is that really what you want,or how you want to be or live?
Because usually the answer isno.
You know we're taught right outof high school.
Go find out what you want to dofor the rest of your fucking
life before your brain is evenfully developed.
(43:03):
You know and then meet someoneand that you're going to attach
to and stay with until you diebefore you're even fully
developed or understanding ofwho you actually are, open the
door to midlife crisis.
You know there's when peoplecome to a point where, like what
the fuck is going on?
Like who am I?
What this, like everything thatthey told me to be and it's not
(43:24):
real?
I mean, ultimately none of itis.
But at least you get to chooseand you get to be authentic with
that.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Goes back to what you said earlier.
Even though you may haveexperienced things, those things
don't define who you are,because each day you wake up,
you can choose to be somebodydifferent.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Right.
And that's the tricky part,because a lot of people like for
me, my choice is coming from aspace of like less is more,
right, yeah, and everybody hasfilters and my filters are more
coming from a space now and nomatter what, you cannot not have
filters.
It's like saying don't be human, you know you're gonna have
filters.
But my filters, in my humbleopinion now at least, are coming
(44:05):
from a space of less and lessexternal influence.
But most people, the filtersare all external influence.
That's beautiful, because theysay that's ugly and this is this
.
And now I see it a littleclearer.
With people it's like myfilters are of wellness, of love
and peace, but you have filters.
(44:26):
You're not going to get rid offilters, just as like
expectations, I used to believethat too.
No expectations, that's notreal.
You cannot have expectations.
You expect to.
I used to believe that too.
No expectations, that's notreal.
You cannot have expectations.
You expect to walk and see andyou expect your car to start and
you expect that door to openwhen you push it.
You expect da, da, da, da, da.
You know all day long.
You expect it's subconscious awhile bit, but it's still there.
(44:47):
So to even kid yourself into noexpectations is a ridiculous
setup for failure.
So I say have compassion foryour expectations, because the
day that door doesn't open orthat car doesn't start, you're
going to be okay because you'renot attached to the expectation.
But the expectation isinevitable.
You can't not expect.
That's what we do.
That's being human.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Looking ahead what's next for you?
Speaker 3 (45:12):
in Radiant Soul looking ahead, it's next for you
and radiant soul.
That's true, that's perfect.
I I have no idea and I don'teven like I am at the first time
in my entire life as a human.
I'm completely content.
I don't, I don't haveaspirations on that level
anymore.
What I do is I'm living thatdream.
I'm living that 100authenticity, like the roots of
(45:33):
this space.
Now I've had a coupleopportunities to like, expand
and do these things and I don'tneed that.
I don't want that.
I would love to share with asmany people as I can, but I
don't want to be a franchise orlike a bunch of teachers.
Like.
This is my soul and I do haveone teacher here and she's
(45:54):
amazingly growing and abeautiful contribution to the
studio.
This is my soul.
Like this isn't yourrun-of-the-mill yoga studio and
what I guide is what I live andthat's what I would expect from
anybody that guides here.
But for me I feel like rightnow, right here, where I'm at
with this space, if I lived therest of my life in this space
(46:14):
working a weekend shift tosupport some of the bills, I'm
good with that.
You know, and so I don't see,like all this, what do I want in
the future?
I just want to keep sharing andkeep growing, which we're doing
, so I'm living it.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
I love it.
I love it Contentment and love.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Most beautiful things that I think I have ever
experienced as a yoga student isthe way that you incorporate
your love of music in the class.
For those who have not taken anAnthony Yoga class yet, I will
tell you again you must try itbecause it is amazing.
I will tell you again, you musttry it because it is amazing.
When I was on the mat and wewere in our final resting pose
of Shavasana, I heard this musicand first of all, this voice is
(47:03):
amazing.
It touches something deepwithin.
And then I'm like is that myyoga teacher?
Is Anthony playing the guitar?
Because I thought it was a song.
You know that you're playingthrough the speaker.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
No lie, I left this class in such a state of bliss,
I called my sons.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I was like you will never guess what just happened,
and I told my husband, I told myaunt this is amazing, so much
so that I was trying to findyour music on like iTunes.
There are no words for the giftthat you give us at the end of
class, honestly and selfishly.
I would ask you if you wouldfeel so inclined to share just a
(47:45):
piece with the audience.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, I supposedly don't know how the audio will
sound, but Rick will try it.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I am no caterpillar, I am no butterfly, I am
everything in between.
Please tell me you know what Imean, for I am the darkness and
(48:19):
I am the light.
I am the love deep within and Iknow I am the reason that I
fight everything in betweenLaughing and crying, living and
(48:52):
dying.
And I am no butterfly, I am nocaterpillar, I am everything in
(49:12):
between.
Please tell me, you know what Imean.
I am the darkness and I am thelight and I am the peace Deep
(49:34):
within you.
I know I am the peace deepwithin.
Yeah, I know.
I am the reason that I fightEverything in between, in
between Flying and falling,clearing and emptying and
(50:04):
wallowing.
And you are no caterpillar, youare no butterfly, you are
everything in between.
Please tell me, you know what Imean.
(50:29):
And you are the darkness andyou are the light and you are
the peace and love deep within.
Best believe, you are thereason that you fight Everything
(51:02):
in between Hurting and healing,repressing and feeling
(51:23):
everything.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Thank you so much for sharing my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I'm just going to let you all sit here with that
amazing spirit, the energy, thelove.
This conversation, for me, hasbeen nothing short of beautiful.
Thank you for sitting down withme today and sharing your soul.
Good afternoon and welcome to Everybody.
The podcast which sharesstories that highlight people in
life, that make the world aninteresting place, which
ultimately ties us all togetherin unique and wonderful ways.
And who am I?
You might ask.
I would be the head-wrappedsocialite, wife, mom,
(00:23):
micro-influencer in the fashionand etiquette world, but on this
podcast I will be introducingyou to some people who I've had
the opportunity to meet along myjourney, who have helped enrich
me and my life in beautifulways and who I hope will do the
same in yours.
(00:52):
There are some people who don'tjust walk their path.
They light the way for others.
My guest today is one of thoserare souls.
He believes in the power ofself-discovery, not just as a
personal journey, but assomething to be shared,
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something to be guided with care, patience and love.
As a co-owner of Radiant SoulYoga, anthony has dedicated his
life to creating space fortransformation, for growth and
connection.
What I've learned about him ishe doesn't just teach people
yoga.
He helps people reconnect withthemselves and peel back the
(01:36):
layers, step into their fullestexpression.
That's part of his mission tobe a loving guide for as many
humans as he can in his lifetime.
Please help me in welcoming myfriend Anthony to today's
episode.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
It's an honor, honor, honor to be here and to share
the vibration, stories, the pathFor sure.
So thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Anthony, can you tell the listeners a little bit
about who you are?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I suppose that's you know, it's loaded.
Who I am, uh, you know, as froma philosophy viewpoint I just
am, and who I choose to practiceor be is that loving guide to
support people in theirawakening, if you will?
So that really comes down to it.
(02:30):
I could say I am a musician,I'm a teacher, I'm a father, I'm
a husband, I'm all the things,but I'm not those things.
Those things are part of myhuman experience, but they don't
define me, nor do Iover-identify with them anymore.
You know, it's really part ofwhat I want to help people
figure out, like, what are youidentifying with?
(02:50):
Because ultimately, the I am isthe simplest aspect of being.
I am, you are, and then you getto choose, you know, but the
words you choose don'tnecessarily identify or define
you, and if they do, then in myhumble opinion that causes a lot
of suffering, because whenthose things go away, then your
(03:14):
identity is gone.
You know, so I am in part.
You know, all the other piecesand parts that I play are now
aligned with my heart, whereas,you know, a long time in my life
they were not aligned with myheart, whereas you know, a long
time in my life they were notaligned with my heart.
It was all ego and judgment andjust a mess, and so that's
another piece of that passion.
(03:34):
Here is what yoga and thepractice of doing this you know
breath and movement, what it hasdone for me.
You know they try to say, oh,people don't change.
And if people only knew.
You know some people do knowsome of the things I've done and
things I've seen.
I'm living proof.
People do change actually andchange is inevitable and most
(03:57):
people do suffer because theydon't want to change.
You know the partner neverchanged.
You know anti-age, all the shitthat we get wrapped up in like
don't change, it's change.
That's the only certainty.
Change, death and uncertainty.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And outside of that I play parts that lie with my
heart.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Thank you, that's so beautiful.
One thing that stuck out to meis when you say that I am, it
encompasses so much more thanwho we actually are.
I think about you, know my own,the identity of who others also
perceive you to be, in that youstart to lose who you should be
(04:51):
.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
What I appreciate about the space that you offer
is that you tell us be in thismoment to see that I am so much
more than what this body holdsat this moment.
It encompasses so much morewhat this body holds at this
moment.
It encompasses so much more.
It's centuries, it's all theenergies that we carry of our
former self, our familialbaggage, happiness, whatever it
(05:16):
is.
You know, we are all of that.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And on the same breath, we are not all of that.
Those things are just parts ofthe journey.
There's circumstances andsituations that did help shape
and form us to where we are as aperson now.
But in a sense, if I was thethings of my past, I would still
be an alcoholic and an assholeand a negative person because
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those things shaped my life upto my 30s person, because those
things shaped my life up to my30s.
So that's the really key pointis like I honor my past, my
heritage, traditions, all thethings, but I also know that
those things are not me.
Even up to recent years, youknow, I've had issues with just
my heart, understandingrelationships.
You know there's stuff aboutmonogamy and non-monogamy and
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all things, and it was all egoand now I'm just, I'm done with
it.
You know, finding that space toreally say like your past is
not you, the pieces and partsthat did bring you to exactly
where you are right now.
But again, the same guidelineapplies with that I am, I don't
identify with it, it does notdefine me, and most people they
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see that you did this in thepast.
Yep, I did, and you can sitthere and judge me all day, or
you can move past it and we cangrow together.
I mean, it's up to you.
But it is that point wherepeople do get wrapped up in I am
my past, I am my family and Iam these things and like, no,
you're not.
Those things have shaped youand you can continue to allow
them to shape and support yourgrowth.
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But ultimately it's aboutletting all that go, basically
unlearning.
You know, the more that I grow,the more I unlearn, the more
that I know that I don't know.
And so we're just coming to thespace where people are seeking
I want to learn what book, whatteacher?
The best thing you can do isreally focus on unlearning,
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taking off the layers.
You know you're getting to thespace, to where you're
unlearning the ways of anegregious culture.
You're unlearning the ways ofgreed and fear and remembering
the ways of love and joy which,in my humble opinion, are the
human essence.
And if people want to arguethat, it's like look at a child,
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no matter where they're at,look at a child and see that
that's where we all started,that's where we all come from,
that joy, that wonder, thatbliss, that curiosity, and it
gets muffled and to a certainpoint at an age where we are
asking all the questions and oneday a person that you respect
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says because I said so, insteadof actually answering the
question, and then the next daythey say stop asking so many
questions, and then the next dayyou just stop asking questions
and then we grow and thequestions just stop.
So from this place, I think abig point of kind of starting
the process of awakening, if youwill, is ask yourself questions
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why do I do what I do?
Why do I go where I go?
Why do I talk how I talk?
Why do I dress how I dress?
Why do I like what I like?
What do I believe?
Why do I believe what I believe?
And when you can fully answerthose questions to yourself,
there you are.
Because a lot of times theanswer to most of those
questions is because they saidso, because I want to attract
this person, because I want tofit in over here, because I was
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born that way, because I wasborn into.
You know, religion isgeographic.
It's insane how much we tieinto the stories and you get to
choose, like how you feed thatand how you live that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
When do we lose that childlike wonder?
Do we become so jaded bysociety that all of a sudden I
can't see anything in front ofme?
We, as beings, we were meant toexperience the whole.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
The answer to me.
In my own opinion, the momentthat we stop being a child or
have the childlike mind is themoment that we start over-caring
about what other people thinkand so it just like drowns out.
So the curiosity like, well,why do that?
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And I feel that they mightjudge me or they might not like
me, so how do I fit in?
And that openness just closesup and then it just becomes more
and more layers until we'reready to wake up, if you will.
And again, you know, it'sinteresting that in the Western
world if someone says, stopacting like a child, right,
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because our idea of a child istantrum, issues, you know,
over-emotional.
And now in the East they saychildlike mind.
Because of the beauty ofcuriosity, wonder, you know,
blissful vibration of like, Ilove life, that's childlike mind
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.
But interestingly enough,because of our culture and the
way we've been conditioned,childlike mind here is deemed
negative and so interesting tome and I've been really noting
that like for me to return tothat child like.
We don't.
You know, we don't stop playingbecause we grow old, if, if you
will, like the mentality andvibrations.
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We get old because we stopplaying and youth is in you.
Youth is eternal.
It has nothing to do with howmany times you've been around
the sun on this planet.
Youth is of the spirit, if youwill, and of the heart and soul,
and that is forever you knowbeyond our comprehension.
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But that says again, play, andthat's why I offer that so much
in the yoga room.
Like play on your mat, eat onyour hands, do some cartwheels,
Do something to break that, likeI'm an adult and I'm serious.
Break it up, have some fun andthat's a big piece for wellness
in general overall.
Just have fun, enjoy your life,enjoy being a human.
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You know there's so much moreto it than just like job, sleep,
home, eat, sleep.
You know, gym, do the thingsjust like.
You know.
There's those mundane practicesthat most of which do serve in
their own right, but you have tofind that space in lambliting
and to really be able to justplay, whatever that means to you
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as a person.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know it's individual play, just play yeah,
I noticed that when you do saythat on the mat and you're like
play you know, I always have asmile on my face because a part
of me does revert back to when Iwas that seven-year-old girl
playing hopscotch or doubledutch.
You know, if only for a littletiny moment.
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It is there and, like you said,youth springs eternal.
And if we can connect to theinner child, we'll still find
the wonder in the world.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Right, and it's still there Now.
Therein lies the beauty of thechallenge, of the words we use,
right?
So when I say I want to connectwith that means you're
disconnected.
So you can't disconnect.
It's always there, you'realways connected to that
beautiful child.
So the intention is to justremember, you know, start to
unpack it and open it and feelit and remember, like every time
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, you just take that smile, takethat moment to enjoy that open
awareness that she or he, thatthat vibration, that they, it's
there, it's always there.
There is no disconnect, youcannot disconnect from it.
It's, it's, it's more so, likeI just forgot, and so now I'm
remembering, and that makes it alot easier, because if you see
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a disconnect, like, how do Ireconnect?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
It makes all this work.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
What's the formula?
You know there's no formula.
It's just remember who you are,what you are and that essence
of a child, that essence of joyand bliss and wonder, it's there
always.
This practice is about makingit accessible.
Know, it's there always.
This practice is about makingit accessible.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Know it's always available.
Listeners, as you can see, thisis why I love going to
Anthony's classes.
You learn so much.
You learn more about who youare becoming.
During parts of the yoga classhe asked you find your eyes in
the mirror and sometimes it ishard to look at the person who
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is in front of you, but there'sso much more to the depths of
our being.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Like you said, you know that child is there, you
know you.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
could you say it much more eloquently A lot of the
eye gaze like to yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
First, it really starts with like discomfort.
Most people can hardly look atthemselves for a few moments in
the mirror without extremediscomfort or awkward energy.
So you're looking at yourself.
Now the question arises if youcan hardly look at yourself and
connect to you in the mirror fora couple minutes, how do you
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expect to connect to any otherhuman being?
You really can't.
There's a block there.
There's an unwillingness toopen to yourself.
Thereby, inevitably, there's aclear unwillingness to open to
anybody else.
So superficial.
Sure, I love you, I see you,but if you don't see and love
yourself, that love issuperficial for others and
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people do not like to hear thatis superficial for others and
people do not like to hear that.
You know, if you can not loveyourself on a full level, you
really can't truly love anyoneelse, and this is one that's
really hard for people toswallow and it's as real as it
gets, though.
I mean generally, how you seeyourself and how you treat
yourself is how you willultimately treat and see others,
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and even in the beginning ofthis path for me, you know, I
saw myself as almost holier thanthou bullshit, you know, and I,
and so I started treatingpeople like less than.
And I caught it, I noticed itfrom the help of some friends
and family and people like hey,you know, this feels like this,
and I'm like no, like hey, youknow, this feels like this, and
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I'm like no, it doesn't shut up.
And then I'm gonna go throughthe motions and then, ultimately
, the practice is aboutlistening and hearing and really
tuning in.
When you hear something thatyou're resistant to, like why?
Oh, because it's not true.
Well, if it wasn't true, youwouldn't be so defensive.
So that is like okay, so youknow, you tune into that
vibration to how you treat andsee yourself becomes literally
how we treat and see one another, becomes how we treat and see
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the planet, becomes how theworld is changing Again from the
inside out.
You know that's where thelooking at yourself and making
that connection to really breakfree from you know, the fear of
connecting with people Becausethat's a general point, know
we're afraid, you don't want toget hurt and ultimately the
heart does not hurt, the egohurts, so that your feelings get
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hurt.
It's like okay, you know again,people are doing what they know
best and generally it's defense, you know, coming from a place
of fear.
So that's the point of the eyegaze to look at yourself and
just see.
Okay, can I look and really seelove?
And I really like receive whatI see and accept what I see.
Because body dysmorphia, youknow, for a lot of people men
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too people don't think men areweird about their bodies, but we
are and that's part of it too.
I want to be this, I want tolook this way and skinnier,
taller, more muscles, whatever.
But there's not acceptancethere, there's identification
and judgment there and this iswhere, again, the challenge to
see that and see through it thatbreaks open in a deep way your
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life and changes.
It changes everything.
There was a magazine cover a fewyears back, I digress, but that
I was at the store and juststarted my yoga practice and in
bold letters it said yoga willruin your life.
And I was like on guard.
So then, when I'm standingthere looking and fine print
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underneath it said as you knowit, and I was like, hmm, okay.
So when I really really nowreflect back as like, yoga did
ruin my life, the circumstancesand stories as I knew it,
because I mean, it changedeverything, from again the way I
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think to the way I walk, to theway I stand, the way I played,
the way I love people, to theway I share my heart and soul in
that room and everywhere I goand song.
You know all of it.
It ruined my life as I knew it.
Um, and a lot of people willattest to that.
As far as like even you see alot that like divorce rate,
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because a lot of women arewaking up and a lot of husbands
blame me and blame yoga.
But it's like, dude, all youhave to do is walk the path like
wake up, get out of that toxicmasculinity right, face your
shit and you can be there foryour fucking partner.
Now, again, I've had likecomplaints, man, a nerd, my wife
wants this, and now she's gotyep, so what?
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She's a human.
She deserves like equal share,like and I've been through it,
I'm going through it with mywife.
We're trying, I'm trying to bemore aware of like the
patriarchy and like I expectthis and come home, and so I'm
trying to work with that, likeI'll do some dishes after she
cooks and like help out.
Now I tell her the same thingis like you gotta let me know,
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though, because this is such aningrained thing Like we don't
even think about it.
It's just like that's what womendo, that's what men do, and I
call bullshit.
You know, step up, like all ofus, like, wake up and let that
shift be a positive thing.
So the rule in your life islike man, you know it's a bit
intense, but it will change itintensely and then again the
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life is questionable,questionable, and then I'll get
off this tangent.
But the word life, right, lifeis a beach, life is hard, life
is.
Life is simply beautifully hereit is.
Life is.
There is no nothing after that.
Life is not good, not bad, itlife is.
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So we confuse circumstances andsituations for life, for sure
the same way as we confusecircumstances and situations for
the vibration of the day.
So I ask anybody, how was yourday?
Oh, I had a shitty day, like no, you didn't actually, you had a
beautiful gift of day withshitty circumstances.
And secondly, you know, thecircumstances don't have to be
shitty, they can be a challenge.
So it's just a shitty attitude,if you ask me so.
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So what's really shitty here isyour attitude.
And as judgmental as thatsounds, you know it's just
facing the facts.
You have a shitty attitudeabout it.
So you're going to continue onthat path with the shitty
attitude and suffer.
Or you can change your attitudeand it's not going to be this
blissful, spiritual, bypassingfuck that.
It's.
Feel it all, but feel it withan open awareness that you are a
conduit friend, that energypasses through you as much as
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you will release it, or yourbody becomes a sponge and you
hold it and get sick.
So again, I digress, but yeah,that's what I do I love it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
See, you will fit right in here because I tend to
digress a lot.
Now you have described yourselfas a loving guy to
self-discovery.
What does that mean to you andhow did you come to embrace that
role in your life?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, I didn't even embrace that role per se because
it didn't come up until youasked me the question, so it
wasn't really something that I'mlike.
This is what I am.
It's impossible to explain andhow these things come up or how
I, you know, talk about.
What I talk about, it's myheart, it's it's life, studies
and practices of circumstancesand situations and learning from
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the space.
That is non-judgmental.
So I've never really thought ofthat as my role per se until
the question was asked, and sowhat that means to me is
supporting people in the processof discovering who they
actually are.
And again, the who you are iswho you want to be, who you
choose to practice.
The deep point of that is doesthat align with your heart, like
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really?
And so a lot of people play theparts that don't align with
their hearts.
They play the part that alignwith your heart, like really
yeah.
And so a lot of people play theparts that don't align with
their hearts.
They play the part that alignswith culture.
I'm supposed to, I should do.
I stopped shooting on myselfyears ago.
I don't do, should anymore.
It's like I choose and I chooseto to do this or that, and so,
in my humble opinion, you knoweven the vibration of
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self-realization.
That is one of the greatestgifts that you can give to the
world.
Straight up self-realization,know yourself, share that out,
because ultimately, underneathall the bullshit, it is love,
bliss, joy.
And if you're willing to dothat work, that self-realization
is what I guide through Again,through movement, through breath
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, through mindful awareness, andquestion everything you know.
And that says again, I'm notagainst anything, I'm just
curious about everything.
So, I'll ask all the questions.
You know, and a lot of peopledon't like that, especially when
it comes to like religion orpolitics.
It's just like ask questionsCause I call bullshit, you know,
on all of it.
And even in the spiritual worldright now, like it's a fucking
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mess out there, so many peopleexploiting seekers and oh, if
you do this you'll get that, andyou know this is not that.
But yeah, ask questions,challenge it.
But for me, that guide toself-realization is exactly that
Move your body, question things, deep breath, drink the water,
eat.
Well, you know, I mean I eat.
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Okay, I eat good because mywife cooks great food.
That's fantastic, that'smagnificent, but if it wasn't
for her, it would be like hotpockets of peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches and that's finetoo.
I think, a big part of themissile on diet.
I'm not going to go all intothat, but it's like this culture
has got that shit twisted.
Like three meals a day, blah,blah.
There's days where I only eatone meal a day and it's
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listening to my body.
But ever since we're in the eye, you know, eat all your food at
that table and this is the timewe eat.
And it's like the body and theenergy of, like the animal I
don't believe is created forthat.
Like you feel it and dependingon the energy exert, you put the
fuel back in.
And if I'm not feeling likefueling, then I'm not going to
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fuel, not because of a time ofday, you know, or because you
say I'm supposed to eat rightnow.
No, thank you, I'm not hungryactually.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Delving a little bit deeper.
So what was your personaljourney of self-discovery?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
like I mean it was a mess.
It was a mess.
It was a mess because I didn'thave a guide, I didn't have a
mentor, I didn't have a teacher,it was just me and my ego.
And my ego took over for like 15years, maybe even 16 or 17,.
Actually, I don't know if youknow this about it.
Um, if I'm being honest aboutit, um, yeah, I didn't have a
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teacher, so it was just a mess.
You know, I, I was all over theplace, you know, subscribing to
this and that and all theenergies and chakra, this and
like.
I don't.
Again, I'm not denounceanything.
I'm not god, you know all thethings.
I don't denounce it.
I'm just willing to admit Ihave no idea.
So, chakras, great, greatconcept, great theory, but I
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don't know.
I don't know that there'slittle spinning circles of
energy up my spine and I'm notgoing to pretend that there are.
You know, I can honor thatvibration and whoever wants to
subscribe to that go right ahead.
But for me, I did subscribe tothat for a while and I got lost
in it, just like again, again,that kind of holier-than-thou,
better-than vibration came upand just gross, and so the
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practice for me was continuing Ifell, I rise, I fell, I rose, I
fell, I rose, and every time Ifell I got up a little slower
and just paid a little moreattention, and that's the
vibration of the definition ofinsanity is doing the same thing
over and over and expectingsomething different For sure.
And so I had to go through it.
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And it was well over a decadeof just like deep digging,
diving shitty mess, slugfest,until I realized, like what the
what am I fighting?
What am I fighting actually?
But we're taught good and evil,right.
So the light wolf, the darkwolf which one do you feed Again
, theory judgment Is that whereyou're going to go with it, or
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you can realize that there wasno fucking fight at all.
You don't have to fight.
It's not a fight, it's aboutsurrender.
It's the exact opposite.
No-transcript, a space ofsurrender.
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Like just stop buying shit.
Yeah, stop buying so much shitbecause we put the money in
their pockets.
Like we're making this, thiscapitalism, yeah, we've done it,
we've created it.
So I don't know why people aresurprised that it is how it is
right now, like money rules,because we have given it that
power.
So taking that back is is partof the practice as well.
But yeah, my, my whole journey,I mean it started on my mat and
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it's spread out and againthere's a mess.
The shit show, if you will, allthe way up to recent years,
like really dialing into, like,oh there, I am okay, I've missed
you and I can honor all theshit that I've done and been
through, even on the yoga path.
Um, just because it's, it's hassupported me to this point yeah
(26:43):
but again, I don't identifywith it yeah
no, so it was that.
I don't know if that answersyour question fully, but yeah,
it's just been getting on themat, falling, rising, you know,
relations falling, rising,trying to figure out you know
who I am on that level likeagain, with just relationships
in general, friends, you know mywife and trying to maybe to
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open the marriage and just mess,fucking mess, just a mess.
And now I, you know, after alot of trials and tribulations,
I'm free and it feels reallyreally good and that is what,
like the passion for me sharingthis path is.
It's again it comes back towhat it has done for me how much
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it has transformed me as aperson on so many levels.
And there's one human thatreally really knows that on a
deep soul level, which is mywife, andrea, and we've been
together for 19 years, married,but before that we got married
for a trip to Jamaica and it Imean we got married to for a
trip to jamaica and to just likeit was what we're supposed to
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do, and so that was what it was.
And all the way through thispath, you know, we've had our
hits and misses and why really,let's get divorced and we're not
gonna work together, and thennow we're just perfectly good
and, and you know, sortingourselves out like in the best
way of communicating we haveseparate rooms is when we're
gonna get a divorce legally.
Years ago we just split up yeah, this is my room, that's your
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room when we decide to come backtogether.
We both agreed like, I want myown room my own bed, my own
space, and we're like, yes,please.
So now I, I suggest andrecommend that to everybody.
If you have the means, get yourown room, because you get to
design it.
This is your space to just gowhen you need it in your home,
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but otherwise it's just, it'sthe smash together that you do
not identify with, but it's justyou two and there is no space
for just you.
So, if you have the means, getyour own room.
That was a game changer,especially because we all sleep
different, right, and our sleepschedules were different.
I work on the weekends.
I'm up at five o'clock in themorning.
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She likes to sleep until likesix, seven.
You know she's weekday onweekend.
It's just.
It made sense.
Yeah, I sleep like this, I'mjust right out, sprawled, and it
made sense.
Yeah, I sleep like this andjust right out, sprawled, and
she likes 38 pillows andweighted blankets and just one
blanket and one pillow, simple.
So you get your own vibration.
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It's huge.
My point is, you know we've beentogether for a really long time
.
She's seen the darkest parts ofme.
I've known her since I'm fiveyears old.
You know we're family friends.
We've known each other like forour entire life.
And now we're at this placewhere it's like we just like the
deep kind of love that that isis beyond comprehension, like no
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matter what the future holds.
It's like we, we know, likethat's your person in in a sense
.
I don't connect like thatanymore for anyone.
I don't recommend it for anyonebecause, again, things change,
people change and that couldchange for her.
It's weak.
She could be like I don't feelthis anymore and it would.
It would suck, but I know Iwould be okay because that's a
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part of it too.
When we don't attach to, thisis my person, this is my uh,
just like anything, right?
Non-attachment is not aboutdetachment.
Non-attachment is aboutunderstanding that if and when
how about when these things goaway person, thing, substance
you're going to be okay.
That's not attachment.
Attachment is if I don't havethis, I'm gonna lose my shit,
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this person's gonna, I can't, Ican't even that's attachment and
that's dangerous, right.
So non-attachment says whenthese things go, because they
all will at some point right yep, all of it will.
Yeah, I will be okay.
So, yes, it'll hurt, or, yes, Igo through the grieving.
Whatever it is, for whateverreason, whatever the vibration
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it's.
It can be a challenge, but Iwill be okay.
I am already okay and, fromthat space, understanding that
applies to everyone andeverything.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That's interesting that you would say it like that,
because at the root of it allis love, like we're experienced.
But we have to recognize itAttachment.
So, as some of the listenersknow, it'll be eight years this
year that my mom passed away.
My world crumbled, the worldthat I knew it crumbled because
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you know she was my best friend.
I talk about a hundred times aday as if she was next door.
But now I can see, looking back,there were a lot of moments
that she was already kind ofpreparing me, not that she knew
she was if the time was coming,but she was kind of preparing me
where she was going to launchme and she'd always tell me at
some point I'm not going to behere anymore.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Preparing me, but I didn't want to see it because I
am attached to her.
That is my mother.
I need her.
But in that I have been able tosee, not that it still doesn't
hurt, it just hurts in adifferent way.
I am okay.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
It's taken me eight years and I'm sure it will take
another hundred years.
Thank you, Mother.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But yeah, none of this will be forever, and I have
been marinating on this eversince I started taking your
classes.
Is you say, enjoy this moment,for this moment, too, shall pass
.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I feel like that's a very important staple point of
this practice in general.
Actually, this too shall pass,as I say in class.
It's really easy to apply thatwhen things are uncomfortable or
when things are painful.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
This too shall pass.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's almost like a bypass, so you don't actually
feel it or you get to say, ohyeah, it's going to be better
one day applies even more soimportantly for people to
understand.
This two-shot pass applies tothe positive aspects, to all of
the things that you will everexperience, and so you know when
, generally, when people hearthat it comes, fear comes first.
(32:41):
Right, oh my god, attachment.
And so I I want to be aroundthis and do this more because
it's going to be gone, insteadof actually just being in that
moment and appreciating it forwhat it is, because it will be
gone.
So this is why every class Iteach is from a place of passion
(33:01):
and from a place of like.
I know this could very well bethe last class I teach, so I'm
going to come with my heart.
I'm going to give my everythingin every class I guide, because
I know full well that might bethe last one.
Every time I sing, I sing frommy soul, because I know full
well my voice.
Tomorrow I might lose an arm, Imight not be able to play
guitar, I might die.
(33:23):
I mean this could be the lasttime.
No-transcript you soon, or I'mhopeful to see you again, and I
(33:53):
feel like that was a bit much.
It was freaking people out, sothat's why, so I'm stuck.
But it was the reality, man.
I hope I see you again.
I don't know, I mean not, younever know, and nobody thinks
they're gonna die.
The human brain can't evenfully comprehend what that means
, that you're not gonna existsoon.
You know soon as subjective,but you're not gonna exist and
(34:17):
we just cannot, can't compute.
No, I'll see you tomorrow.
I'll see you again.
You might not, and so honor thetime that you get and share it
out and that is the essence ofthis too shall pass Not from
fear and attachment, but justgrateful for everything you get
to do For sure, for everythingthat your body does for you.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You know this kind of energy.
It's a lot of information, ifyou will, but it comes down to
common sense.
You know, there was something Iwas watching a few years ago and
there's common sense specialist.
That sums it up.
You know that this is all aboutcommon sense and common sense
is not so common these daysbecause everybody is just like
(35:01):
following the lead, like a bunchof lemurs walking off a cliff,
instead of actually likestopping, feeling like, yeah, if
I eat poison and get sick, andthen I wonder why I'm sick but I
keep eating poison.
That's the same with negativethoughts.
It's the same with shittyprocessed foods.
It's the same with, you know,not breaking the water and not
(35:22):
moving your body.
But you wonder, you know, whyam I not as flexible?
Because you don't fuckingstretch.
You know why am I so done it up, but again, or just like
blinders on seeking this quickfix pill.
The instant gratification,that's the age of instant
gratification.
That's gone on for far too longand it's like none of this is
(35:43):
instant in a sense.
But the practice of thisdrinking the water, stretching
your body, mindful thinking,that's the answer to a lot of
issues in our tissues.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Drink water, deep breath, mindful movement,
mindful thinking.
Outside of that, yes, there areother things with
pharmaceuticals and differentthings that serve the human body
, but there is a veryfundamental point that a lot of
people are missing out on.
Deep breath is a huge one.
They say that you know 50conscious breaths a day will do
more for you than any self-helpbook or any practice 50
(36:16):
conscious breaths and people tryto say I don't have time for
that.
You breathe all day.
You know you can do it anywhereanytime just 50 conscious
breaths.
And you can do it anywhereanytime just 50 conscious
breaths.
And if you know, your mind'sgoing to wander.
So then maybe you start with 12conscious breaths.
Let's set a goal.
Maybe I will get to 50 andmaybe I'll go further than that,
and then one day you're goingto realize, like how much you're
not actually breathing and howmuch these breath work practices
(36:38):
actually do help.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
And when you talk about 50 conscious breaths, what
do you mean to someone who hasnot practiced yoga?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
That means I would sit down and go two deep breath
in fill up the lungs, empty itout.
Three deep breath in fill upthe lungs, empty it out.
Four all the way to 50.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Full conscious breaths.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
No, you can't think when you're focused on your
breath.
Actually, if you're trulyfocused on like I breathe in, I
breathe out, you can't think.
That's the cool part about likethe practice on the mat, when
you really get into the breathand rhythmic movement, it is
virtually impossible to think.
If you're focused and presentnow, you can wander off, but
then you're not focused on yourbreath.
If you're focused on yourbreath, you cannot actually
(37:23):
think per se.
Again, the thoughts are Ibreathe in, I breathe out, you
know, and and thereby you can'tthink so, if I'm saying taking
that breath, breathing out one,really focusing on that breath
and focusing on the way it feelsto expand those lungs and empty
(37:43):
those lungs and really, reallyfocus on the physical attributes
of what you're doing, it'simpossible to think Again it'll
come up, it'll trick in in andthen you just start back over.
Maybe not zero, maybe you staywith the number you're at, but
just give it time and give itspace to say like 50 conscious
breaths and doesn't have to beall grandiose, just big.
(38:04):
Fill up the lungs, empty thelungs one.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Fill up the lungs and the lungs two and is that why
you direct us so many timesduring class to focus on the
breath?
So you're bringing us back,knowing that some of us will
wander?
Speaker 3 (38:18):
yeah, absolutely.
Then when you bring back to thebreath and again a part of it
with vinyasa is the breath,obviously we're moving and
breathing the flow, but again,you know, bringing it back to
the breath brings you back topleasant moment and it allows
your body to be at ease, becausewhen you stop breathing, your
body panics and generally whenwe're moving and our body's
panicking we're going to getinjured.
(38:40):
So breathing into that isletting your body know it's okay
, even if it's challenging.
I'm breathing and my body knowsit's okay.
So that's why you hear it in alot of classes.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
If you can't breathe it, you're doing too much and
you're stressing out your body.
Breathe into that edge and letthat grow from the breath, thank
you.
So yoga for some of us who havenot practiced before is often
seen as a physical practice.
As you speak more and moreabout it, I hope the listeners
are also seeing that not only isit physical, but it's deeply
tied to mental and emotionalwell-being as well.
How do you help people movebeyond the physical practice
(39:22):
into a deeper understanding ofthemselves and who they hope to
be?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Well, I support people, right, so I give you
tools and then you have to helpyourself.
Outside of that, it's aboutrepetition.
So some people come in here,there's gym mentality and that's
fine, but if you're really openand hearing that, it's about
repetition.
So some people come in herejust gym mentality and that's
fine.
But if you're really open andhearing it, it's going to shift.
It's inevitable.
So the practice for me it'slike I'm not trying to tell you
to do anything, just coming inand sharing my heart and sharing
(39:46):
the vibration, the wisdom.
If you will, Eventually,eventually in time, if you're
consistent, it's gonna change.
It's gonna shift.
Your intentions are gonna shift.
Your awareness and energy about, like, why you're there is
gonna shift.
If you're staying true to itand really consistent with it,
it'll shift inevitably.
So I don't have to do anything,I'm just supporting and sharing
(40:07):
and then it's up to thepractitioner to keep it up and
dedicate their vibration to thatwhich inevitably will shift.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
So I'm going to call you the guide of support.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Right and just holding that space, and it's
really really just supportingpeople on their path to so they
can help themselves.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
I know fear and resistance are common roadblocks
to the practice are commonroadblocks to the practice, and
also fear as it relates toself-discovery, because some
people are scared of discoveringwho they truly are right.
How do you guide, being thesupportive guide that you are,
people through those moments ofthat discomfort?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Well, I would just say again the reminders of
breathing and feeling andhonoring that like, like even
sometimes the fear is not real,no, it's coming from a place of
like disbelief, and and againI'll circle back.
But to say who they are right,it's not fear of who they
actually are, it's fear ofletting go of the identity, of
who you think you are.
So the fear is, it's not aspowerful as you think it's, it
(41:15):
is what you feed it.
And now if that fear says, ohmy god, this is my identity, I
can't let that go, then thatthen that makes it that much
more challenging to reallyunderstand what that means.
To identify with the actual you.
You know, and the actual you,again, is not even about
identifying but just knowing.
You know, so that, like, themost of the fear is coming from
(41:36):
a place that says I can't let goof that identity because I
don't know who I am.
But the practice that I wouldguide is to say let go of that
and so that you can understand,like your choice to be who you
want to be and how you want tobe, because you know.
I think a more appropriatequestion of like you know, when
(41:57):
they say existential crisis andpeople are like who am I?
It's ridiculous.
You are who you choose to be.
You are who you practice Like.
That's your choice.
What you are there is a mindblower.
You know because we don't knowultimately.
You know the vibration of theearth, the dirt of the earth is
in our blood.
They say, theoretically, the,the dust and the stars is in our
(42:19):
bones and the, the salt of theocean is in our sweat.
Like what are we?
We are everything.
It's like amazing.
So that's more appropriate totry to really sort dig.
Like what am I versus who am I?
Because who I am is my choice,that's my practice.
But who people identify with atfirst is where that fear base
(42:40):
comes to, to shift.
So again, my, my suggestionsare like okay, who you identify
with now is does that reallyalign with your heart?
Is that really what you want,or how you want to be or live?
Because usually the answer isno.
You know we're taught right outof high school.
Go find out what you want to dofor the rest of your fucking
life before your brain is evenfully developed.
(43:03):
You know and then meet someoneand that you're going to attach
to and stay with until you diebefore you're even fully
developed or understanding ofwho you actually are, open the
door to midlife crisis.
You know there's when peoplecome to a point where, like what
the fuck is going on?
Like who am I?
What this, like everything thatthey told me to be and it's not
(43:24):
real?
I mean, ultimately none of itis.
But at least you get to chooseand you get to be authentic with
that.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Goes back to what you said earlier.
Even though you may haveexperienced things, those things
don't define who you are,because each day you wake up,
you can choose to be somebodydifferent.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
Right.
And that's the tricky part,because a lot of people like for
me, my choice is coming from aspace of like less is more,
right, yeah, and everybody hasfilters and my filters are more
coming from a space now and nomatter what, you cannot not have
filters.
It's like saying don't be human, you know you're gonna have
filters.
But my filters, in my humbleopinion now at least, are coming
(44:05):
from a space of less and lessexternal influence.
But most people, the filtersare all external influence.
That's beautiful, because theysay that's ugly and this is this
.
And now I see it a littleclearer.
With people it's like myfilters are of wellness, of love
and peace, but you have filters.
(44:26):
You're not going to get rid offilters, just as like
expectations, I used to believethat too.
No expectations, that's notreal.
You cannot have expectations.
You expect to.
I used to believe that too.
No expectations, that's notreal.
You cannot have expectations.
You expect to walk and see andyou expect your car to start and
you expect that door to openwhen you push it.
You expect da, da, da, da, da.
You know all day long.
You expect it's subconscious awhile bit, but it's still there.
(44:47):
So to even kid yourself into noexpectations is a ridiculous
setup for failure.
So I say have compassion foryour expectations, because the
day that door doesn't open orthat car doesn't start, you're
going to be okay because you'renot attached to the expectation.
But the expectation isinevitable.
You can't not expect.
That's what we do.
That's being human.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Looking ahead what's next for you?
Speaker 3 (45:12):
in Radiant Soul looking ahead, it's next for you
and radiant soul.
That's true, that's perfect.
I I have no idea and I don'teven like I am at the first time
in my entire life as a human.
I'm completely content.
I don't, I don't haveaspirations on that level
anymore.
What I do is I'm living thatdream.
I'm living that 100authenticity, like the roots of
(45:33):
this space.
Now I've had a coupleopportunities to like, expand
and do these things and I don'tneed that.
I don't want that.
I would love to share with asmany people as I can, but I
don't want to be a franchise orlike a bunch of teachers.
Like.
This is my soul and I do haveone teacher here and she's
(45:54):
amazingly growing and abeautiful contribution to the
studio.
This is my soul.
Like this isn't yourrun-of-the-mill yoga studio and
what I guide is what I live andthat's what I would expect from
anybody that guides here.
But for me I feel like rightnow, right here, where I'm at
with this space, if I lived therest of my life in this space
(46:14):
working a weekend shift tosupport some of the bills, I'm
good with that.
You know, and so I don't see,like all this, what do I want in
the future?
I just want to keep sharing andkeep growing, which we're doing
, so I'm living it.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
I love it.
I love it Contentment and love.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Most beautiful things that I think I have ever
experienced as a yoga student isthe way that you incorporate
your love of music in the class.
For those who have not taken anAnthony Yoga class yet, I will
tell you again you must try itbecause it is amazing.
I will tell you again, you musttry it because it is amazing.
When I was on the mat and wewere in our final resting pose
of Shavasana, I heard this musicand first of all, this voice is
(47:03):
amazing.
It touches something deepwithin.
And then I'm like is that myyoga teacher?
Is Anthony playing the guitar?
Because I thought it was a song.
You know that you're playingthrough the speaker.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
No lie, I left this class in such a state of bliss,
I called my sons.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
I was like you will never guess what just happened,
and I told my husband, I told myaunt this is amazing, so much
so that I was trying to findyour music on like iTunes.
There are no words for the giftthat you give us at the end of
class, honestly and selfishly.
I would ask you if you wouldfeel so inclined to share just a
(47:45):
piece with the audience.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, I supposedly don't know how the audio will
sound, but Rick will try it.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I am no caterpillar, I am no butterfly, I am
everything in between.
Please tell me you know what Imean, for I am the darkness and
(48:19):
I am the light.
I am the love deep within and Iknow I am the reason that I
fight everything in betweenLaughing and crying, living and
(48:52):
dying.
And I am no butterfly, I am nocaterpillar, I am everything in
(49:12):
between.
Please tell me, you know what Imean.
I am the darkness and I am thelight and I am the peace Deep
(49:34):
within you.
I know I am the peace deepwithin.
Yeah, I know.
I am the reason that I fightEverything in between, in
between Flying and falling,clearing and emptying and
(50:04):
wallowing.
And you are no caterpillar, youare no butterfly, you are
everything in between.
Please tell me, you know what Imean.
(50:29):
And you are the darkness andyou are the light and you are
the peace and love deep within.
Best believe, you are thereason that you fight Everything
(51:02):
in between Hurting and healing,repressing and feeling
(51:23):
everything.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Thank you so much for sharing my pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
I'm just going to let you all sit here with that
amazing spirit, the energy, thelove.
This conversation, for me, hasbeen nothing short of beautiful.
Thank you for sitting down withme today and sharing your soul.
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