UFO Chat with Paul -23 Special Paranormal Guest Colleen - Things that go bump day and night - TheOutThereChannel UFO Paranormal Chat Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yeah, help you jump? H h.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
H h.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Yeah, help you jump.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, nowtstairs, We've got too late on YouTube. That's good.
It's updated, so they have changed that. We looked and
I think we look at the desktop. Well, I have
to check your audio live or forgot to check that,
so I'll just do it in a minute. So we're

(02:04):
doing this today. That goes out, so it's gone out
to YouTube. I'm not sure why pills not showing up.
That's always a problem. Uh life update. The soft were

(02:26):
some tonight pilled. I'm not sure if it's getting it.
Let me just check sure. Uh it's not getting it
at the moment. It was just kind of weird. Mm hmmm.

(02:51):
Something's happened. We're pilled what so I don't know. I'll
just check it's looked in. Just stop it and restart it. Maybe, Okay,

(03:33):
I just try that again. It's going now it's showing
up as a ticular that's pilled. That's YouTube, that's rumble
and next switch. Yeah, I'll just post it my website
link and we'll go to with your stories and whatnot.

(04:00):
Sweet mum hmm, yeah, I think Field hasn't shown up again,
and it is. It's rumble, that's rumbles. No, it's gone
just a pin those and yeah, really the guy. Finally,

(04:27):
I've got to do this on another screen though I
don't think it's got the pin can end this some
time for people to show up anyway, sure, and no,
normally to get an email and it takes some some
fifteen minutes to realize we've gone live.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure if we're getting more Michael
King's comments, A bit of check.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Are you still there, Mike Lister Summing, Let's have a
quick look, give it time. They're always come in later. Yeah, okay,
there's a lot of comments. Hey Colleen, hi Michael, mm hmm.
He's in Scotland. He's a Scottish fellow.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Hello, a good broogue.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Everybody else is pretty shy on the side comments, but
we put it there occasionally get a few people that
want to join them. Uh yeah, just bring up your
whip pach and we can go. So we can probably

(06:02):
show your web page and post them in sight. I
think I've posted in the description anyway. This is from
Hang One, which promotes a lot of paranormal in UFO
books as well as movies. I think, don't they Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's absolutely correct. The guys who had the Hang of
One publishing are the same ones who did Monster quest
if you remember that.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, that's when they go do Bigfoot in Lockney Smunster and.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
It's so it's good.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
So you want to maybe let's talk about yourself here
instead of read out this blurb about you the buyer.
You can just talk it, can't you? Do you want
to explain it? So say who you are and all
that in the blue or do you want me to
read out this? It's up to you.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
You know, it's fine with me. I'm perfectly capable, and
thank you for that. I am. My name is Colin Kaufman.
I have a lifelong passion and experience with all things paranormal.
I have spent the last twenty five plus years in
film and theater as a special effect makeup artist, word

(07:19):
robe and makeup hair artist. I no longer do that
or a lot of that anyways, but I have recently
in the last couple of years, I've done some writing
and some drawing and some painting and things. And that's
where we're at right now.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
So what's you you did? Obviously gorilla types suits like
big type suits for maying to.

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Do, never a big suit.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
But I have done a lot of were wolves. I
have done a lot of zombies. I've done a lot
of dead folks. I have done a lot of just
all kinds of practical effects and special effect makeup.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Do you think you what's what's your feeling on the Bigfoot? Gimbal?
What's it? Is it? Gimbal? You know the famous foot
in California, the one where they claim And it's a suit,
especially a suit that's been really done well with things
underneath it to assimilates muscles. What's what's your feeling on
that movie? Do you think it's real costume?

Speaker 7 (08:23):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Knowing what I know about special effect makeup and where
it's come just in the time, just in the last
twenty five or thirty years, that I have been heavily
involved in it. I feel like that was not a.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Suit, do you because some guy, Yeah, yeah, some guy
said that he made it for him. What's happen there?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, you know, everybody wants their fifteen minutes of fame.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Right, Yeah. I've looked at that, and to me, I
think it is a suit because, yeah, the strip, you know,
it's like the rectangle cutout in the hood where it's
looking through. It's not actually doesn't actually look like it's

(09:11):
on the face, you know. It kind of looks like
a little slit where they could see where they're walking.
I don't I don't know if he was meant to
turn around and expose too much of that in the
filming of it. Maybe he did it wrong when he
was acting. But he's come out and claimed that he
was in that suit. And they've done some measurements from

(09:33):
the movie and worked out that the bigfoot was actually
six point one, which is pretty small for bigfoot. Most
of them often talk about seven foot to eight foot,
even up to eleven foot, and it turns out his
height is actually six point one six foot point one,

(09:54):
which would be roughly correct, give or take a few
inches of saying and estimations with the crown of the
apes if it was a hood sipped on and yeah,
they said it was the most sophisticated suit of the
time that they sowed in little well the guy that

(10:17):
claimed the man that sewed in little things under the
suit to similate muscles.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Possible that I agree with that, but I would need
to go back and look at it to be honest
and to be fair, I would have to go back
and read the footage and some of the images you're
talking about to give it another look with those fresh eyes.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, I have actually got a few episodes that you
can watch and David, look, you see see what I
found out? Anyway, But yeah, what's Michael think. He's a
He's a believer and a skeptic like I am skeptic
because a lot of it's out there is explainable, but

(11:01):
there's that one percent that's not. So we've got Kate
and Orlando joined us. Kate, Kate, Michael is there, and
wu Ryder has joined us. So we've got three people
on YouTube. Thanks for saying hi in the side chat.
Got any questions and stuff throughout the show? Synchronicity, my

(11:25):
dad's family is from Dumfries, Scotland area. Okay, he's talking
to mister King. Yeah, so there was anything here that
we missed, a lifelong passion for study and spent the

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last twenty five years in film and theater. That's a
long time.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
It is.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Also has affinity for storytelling. Taps are real. What's that
reality of medians with your incredible talents? So you're a
psychic median? Is that what they're saying there?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
That's not what it's talking about in this particular blurb.
But yes, I have. I have absolutely been a medium
my entire life.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Right, Okay, we'll get into it more that So that
she can share her greatest ventures and devoted mother, daughter, sister, aunt,
grandmother and what's that one our natur and her great

(12:40):
extended family. People may not be aware your dad just
passed away a couple of weeks ago, and today I
just heard that my uncle has died overnight, my mum's brother,
and he's a wee bit weepy at the moment. So

(13:04):
but I said I had to leave her because I
said I've got to show to see it up. So tip, yeah, sorry,
carry on.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
I was going to say, I'm really sorry about your uncle.
You know, I relate to that. I just lost my
dad a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, it's twenty four. This year has been turning out
a strange People dying. You know that you don't expect
to die. But anyway, Yes, there's your website for advertising
your costume business.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yes, you can see all of my great costuming and makeup,
special effects, body painting. They do a lot of body
painting and face painting and make up in there.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Okay, so it's these ones here, I guess fine art.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yep, there's all kinds of fine art in there. Painting
and the rake was a fun one.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
How cold it didn't work early? THEMS just thinks THEMS
just brought me some hot food I didn't have to eat. Yeah,
I'll try and eat it in between you telling your storytelling. Okay,

(14:29):
so and meet the mic and all right, it comes up.
I was expecting that to change the head, but didn't.
So this is some of your drawings?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Is it some of my paintings. I not only do
I sketch and do a painting, but I also I'm
an air brush artist, so great, many of these items.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Are air brushed, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
These are all pencil drawings of a lot of creatures
and entities that I've experienced over the years.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Okay, you can talk about all that if you want. Oh,
we've got a.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
Donation cooking donated ten pounds through super chat boom.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Thanks Mike. That's just telling cling that you're the only
one that donates to me. I've just find that webit
had the font on this thing with my eyes purple
and blue. You know, I just have to seem in
the what's going on his mouse? I might have to Yeah,

(15:46):
it's you know, I'll just have to reset the magnifier
just to see if it will fix it. I need
a faster computer. I'll do so much on here.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
They make them faster every day, don't they.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, this has got only six cars I think it does,
or eight cars. The latest ones for laptop go up
to twenty four cause I think.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
So.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, that makes a hell of a difference, especially when
you're doing compare stuff on one computer that I am
at here at the moment. Yeah, this is bretting up
the page again. Let's see if what weeks Michael, Oh, yeah,
s week and better. Now. Okay, so we got bloody painting.

(16:41):
What's the disappeared on me. There you go, I want Yeah,
I would have done probably white writing on the pooldowns
would stand up better.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Hover over your hover over the top one, which is
fine art. Yeah right, and yep, hover over painting the rake,
which is a third one. Down there you go click on.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That guy I think I did, and yeah, I have
to scroll.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Down there you go. Okay, So are you familiar with
the rake at all?

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Yeah? A food on that show? What is it that
did falls? And what's Amy used to talk about? It?
Is that the one that comes and grabs takes your
soul something? Is that the one?

Speaker 2 (17:44):
No? Actually, this is a guy who he's encrypted and
he has made He's made himself very well known over
most especially the last probably ten years, has been seen
and heard of in the world elsewise as maybe a ghoul. Uh.
He sounds like a pig in distress. He chases people away.

(18:09):
He is kind of a weird, pinky white color. People
find him often digging in the ground.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
He's a guy.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
He's kind of a scary guy, although I don't believe
he's ever been caught being mean to people other than
just chasing them away.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Right, yeah, and all right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Used to.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, and he used to talk a bit. Oh, this
one really smells.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Were you ever watching the Dad Films? I found it
quite an interesting series, especially with your teamed up with
a detective and he used to go in for such
stuff which she would she wouldn't know about because he
really got into digging down deep unless people and a
lot of fakes out there making money off it. But yeah,

(19:13):
there was a serious Yeah. There was a series on
New Zealand called Sense and Murder which was quite interesting
and there was a couple of particular people on here
that were quite interested in a guy and Australian woman.
And I don't know how they pulled out the names

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of people out fin the air if they weren't cheating,
you know, and birth dates and how they died and
all that sort of stuff. So it's quite interesting if
it's not cheating, you know. So everybody here that probably
watches me, he probably a skeptic of psychics and mediums themselves. Yeah,

(20:00):
to those.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Shows out there nowadays are produced right, Yeah, there are
some real talent people out there who can genuinely pull
names and birth dates and things like that completely out
of the air.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, have you seen since.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Have you ever watched since and Murder On? All right,
you lost connection, that's all right as long as you're back. Yeah,
we're talking about creatures that she has seen, a bit
like Amy from the Dead Falls, where she talks about
all these strange creatures that she sees from the portal

(20:40):
or whatever, and she does a lot of Indian Land
stuff where she sees skin walkers and even aliens. So yeah,
I suppose it's just really start at the beginning. Had
you had you got a to the psychic ability, I

(21:02):
guess it did. We can look at your book here,
I guess sure. You drive it how you want, and
I'll bring up the websites and links for you I
have you have before I'll let you go talking. So

(21:24):
we've got the rabbit hole. We've got some blurb about
your book here, which I thought was quite one of
the better ones, page long, yea, So we could read
that out basically. That sort of dives into your background,
but you're probably going to talk about it anyway. And

(21:46):
then we got some locations as well. We've got some
locations that you went to that check are key points
in your life? Ohio stole out and we got to
also a cemetery. I think it is uh that one
disappeared to cemetery up and.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Right. That's Nelson Ledgers up in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Also, so we got what's that one Kansas? Oh no, no, no,
that wasn't it was slowly feathered down.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
It was not.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I it's slowly left. You were here cemetery, and you've
got this location here, so you can talk about those
and we can bring up the location so people know
where you're talking about the barn. Though the barn I
didn't have a location for.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
The Grand View, Missouri, so that would.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Be up here next to the lake there there that's.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
About smack dab right now next to that red right
next to the red pin drop the right and through
there it is just across that state line from stall.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Right.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I think the Missouri is the only state there that's
not labeled. Oh no, wait Kansas.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I thought that was. But this Michigan, I'm still I'm
still getting still getting used to the American states. And
we'll bets that one's not labeled, doesn't it for some reason?

Speaker 2 (23:36):
That would be where the cemetery is. And then just
lie to the right is going to be Missouri, which
is where the barn is, where it says that is
going to be, where Nelson Ledges is.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
It was not got the there we go, There we go, Netlexles.
So you want to start with how you sort of
grew up and talk about the bond and then talk
about those other locations. Perhaps, Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Let's talk about the book for just a minute, and
I'll tell you how it's really a cool story on
how I decided to do this book, and I think
that it ties into everything we want to get into.
Back in the early two thousands, I was on the
road a lot, and my mom and dad got me
a sketch diary, which turned into my constant companion while

(24:31):
I was on the road. I drew and sketched and
pent and inked all kinds of really cool entities and
energies that I encountered on my travels. And I traveled
a lot, which is why all of this is all
over the place. Anyways, about twenty twelve, I ended up
moving out of my husband's my ex husband's house. I

(24:54):
got a divorce, I moved several times. My storage unit
was burglarized. There was a whole bunch of stuff that
happened in just a couple of years and I lost
my sketch diary. It just disappeared. So one of the
stars of my sketch diary were fairies. I spent a
lot of time drawing and interacting with fairy energies. And

(25:19):
so one night in twenty twenty, I was house sitting
for a friend of mine and her dogs. I was
hanging out with the dogs in the backyard and I
was watching the lightning bugs, which are also known as fireflies.
I was watching them in the backyard, and I was
thinking about my sketch diary and how much I missed it,
and how cool the fairies were, and how I really

(25:42):
missed my sketch diary. And the very next day I
got a message from a young man who said, I
have your sketch diary, would you like it back? And
I was blown away. This was six.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Years nice after it went.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So I went and picked up my sketch diary and
I finished it, wrote a bunch of texts to go
with it, and here it is, it's published. That's where
it came from. So it was kind of a meant
to be situation.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
And as far as they and he covered the paranormal or.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
It was just a paranormal Yeah, it's just the stories
and the energies and entities that i'd met.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
And drew pictures of what you saw. And that's what
you're saying.

Speaker 7 (26:38):
Okay, Yes, that is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's all about all of the entities that I saw
and experienced all over the United States while I was traveling.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
So I finished it up and I wrote some texts
to go with it, and Hanger One just happened to
fall into my lap and I hit them up and
gave them a manuscript and they published it. So that's
that's how we're here right now.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Good.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
It was just such a cool story that I couldn't
resist sharing it with you guys.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah. I used to like the idea of what was
it called pixies and lippercorns and theories you know, from
the old Irish and Scottish mythologies from all over the world. Yeah,
but they talk about it being folklore. But when you

(27:36):
start looking at various other cases where people are seeing
little men at the end of the bed and walking past,
and yes, an old English pub there's a story about
this man. All these little names come walking through, you know,
names that you get in the garden, come walking through

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with the funny hats, and a doorway opened up on
the other side of the wall, and they all walked
past him, and the last one turned around, stared at him,
blinked at him or something winked at him, and then
turned around, carried on and disappeared through the wall with
the other ones. So this guy wasn't known to make

(28:20):
any stories up, and he wasn't drunk, and he was
just like a band player at the pub. So yeah,
strange stuff does get seen, you know, I guess. And
I put that down to my own experience with what
off had happened to me and what was sort of
passed his information to me through dreams after the events

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that we live in a multi universe and these portals
open up where entities from other parallel earths pretty much
can enter into our realm when they shouldn't be here
and then pass out again, which is related to also
to time slips and time travelers as they sp because

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each planet could be at different ages in the multiverse,
some in the dinosaur periods, some in the future, whatever.
But that's what I got in the dream, so I
had to document it and write it down and actually
brought it towards all the people that used to follow
me on this YouTube channel, say, this is the crazy
stuff that's happened, and this is information I've been fed.

(29:34):
And the Adien Grays come here to try and remove
their attachments to some people. So when they adduct people,
they were trying to make them healthy again because they
had some negative entity attached to them or to the property,
and try to remove them from that property. But I

(29:56):
believe Bigfoot also like travelers from a multiverse section and
they can open up the portal, come and do hunting
because they can't get the same food on their own
planet for some reason, and then they go again. You
often hear about orbs above Bigfoot sitans where they disappear suddenly,

(30:19):
and the orbs are something to do with maybe generating
the portal door that they walk through. So yeah, so
I'm not so skeptical anymore when people say they saw
theories or demons or angels, because I believe, and they're real,

(30:40):
but they're from a multiverse and not a dimension, but
from a portal connection to another real world three D world,
so well, so they don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Sorry, maybe I said I don't know about three D.
Maybe I think that they can interact with us here,
and maybe they are some of them three D. I
don't know. I think that it's possible that they are
multi dimensionals. I don't know. It depends on.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, I don't. Being a science person, I never like
this dimension idea because when you think about it, we
live in a three D world, but we can't see
four D and five D. Yeah, we can see two
D and one one D, but we can't see above.

(31:36):
How would they sort of fit in a three D world?
Doesn't sort of make sense, you know. So they've got
to be like a physical creature that comes into our
realm when they shouldn't be here and they should be
back in their own universe because it causes problems. But
I think this is the key you're talking about keywaight, Yeah,

(31:57):
talking about key energy paths.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yes, so a lot of these entities are I can
only interact with them in my mind's eye, or I
can feel their energy or see like I don't know.
It kind of reminds me of snow on the TV,
you know, like static. But some of them I have seen,
like for instance, after my uncle died, I went to

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go stay with my grandmother. He was her caretaker, and
so I kind of had to step up and be
her caretaker after he passed away, and I was sleeping
in his bedroom. Well, I had been cleaning out his
closet at the foot of his bed, and I had
like grocery bags, plastic grocery bags full of socks and
underwear that I had been sorting. I just stashed him

(32:43):
at the foot of the bed, between the bed and
the closet. And when I went to bed that night,
turned out, the light climbed into okay, is there a
mouse or a rat, whatever the case may be, And
I kind of looked over the edge of the bed.

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I was wide awake. I had just laid down into bed,
and I saw this little guy. He was probably about
two feet tall, and he looked like a goblin or
a gremlin. He had he was he was. He looked
like Dobby, an awful look, like Dobby from Harry Potter.
And he came out from the foot of the bed

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with some socks in his hands. He never even looked
at me. I saw him very very clearly, and he
was one hundred percent three d and he looked down
both sides of the hallway and splid into my grandmother's room.
He gave me such a bad feeling, and it's hard
to scare me. It's not so hard to startle me,

(33:46):
but it is hard to scare me. That guy may
be nervous enough if I stayed in bed.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
You did look by the way. For some reason, we
lost a connection with you.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Oh am, I back.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Just when you're talking about the mouths or whatever it
was just before. Then that it doesn't matter. I think
we've got most of the story. So is this happen
in all in one location or does it just follow
you around no matter where you go?

Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:21):
No, I experience stuff like this everywhere I go.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Right, Do you think it's attached to you? Then?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
In that case, I don't think I have any attachments.
I think that I have a something that attracts those
types of things, and maybe maybe I even have a
more open third eye or I don't know exactly what
it is, but I think that I can see and
hear them better than some people can, and I think

(34:50):
that they're aware of that when they see me, they're like, ah, you.

Speaker 7 (34:53):
Can see me.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I suppose attachments the wrong weird I should have said hitchhiker,
let's follow you around.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
But so I don't really have anybody that follows me around.
I have had encounters with the same entities and energies, like,
for instance, I used to work at commercial planted houses
in Kansas City and those were incredibly haunted places, and
I encountered the same entities multiple times in spaces there.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Right, just chick out on the side, coming, it's been a.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Few Well, they're having quite a conversation over there. I
like you, Michael.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Yeah, said he's the King of Scotland. He owned Scotland.
Nobody else knows.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
That.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
M Yeah, he's a brave, hut clean. We can grab
coke coat, coke coat coats and he's out the door.
I like Colleen breaking the habits. Well, it's something different

(36:05):
than what we normally do here. But yeah, so it's
good to have a special guest on. Yeah. I like
Colleen as well. She's we've been talking off and on
for a couple of months now, especially in emails. I
loved love and makes me feel Yeah. I make Michael

(36:25):
laugh a bit occasionally.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
These earrings came from my mother, Thank you very much,
John Candy.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, he's pretty funny. That guy. I like it automobiles, airplanes,
and trains.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's a hilarious one.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Yeah, that one's a great one. And then he gets
caught up in this car seat and he can't get
the steering will.

Speaker 7 (36:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I can't remember secondly how it went, but they just
cracked me up.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
That sad we lost him yet to carry.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
On from where you lift off anyway, he just carried
off from where you left off. Because we're hidden towards
the Bard story. I guess through this talk.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
About the barn, a lot of the fairies and entities
that I drew in the sketch diary actually came from
the barn. And the barn was a place in Grandview, Missouri,
or outside of Grandview, Missouri. It was about fifty four
acres the pasture, there was a pond, there was a woodland.

(37:38):
They had livestock there off and on. So my ex
husband and I used to take care of that property.
And we were up there one night and found that
he was kind of a hoarder with cars and automotive things.
So he had like I don't know, forty cars up
there for parts cars. And we went up there and

(38:02):
found that somebody had been vandalizing those cars. So we
spent a lot of time day and night all find
somebody who was vandalizing these cars continuously. One night, we
were out walking the perimeter of the property and we
noticed we stopped for a break by the back fence

(38:23):
and there was this bush growing out of the fence
line that had what I can only describe as like
cigar shaped or size orange glowing orbs inside of this bush.
And the more we looked at them to try and
figure out what they were, the more that we found.
So we could figure out what they were. There were

(38:45):
no berries, there was no fungui, there was nothing to
really there was nothing to explain what we were looking at.
So we came back the next day and again we
found nothing. Well it wasn't but just a couple of
nights later that we started seeing these fast moving lights
all over the barn.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
She dropped out.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
That's like she's got a Wi Fi connection. Maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hey, there we are. You got me back?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, your WiFi connection dropped both so that sucks. M
h I'm always on cable here. We're straight to the
back of the router, so we don't have any microwaves
or anything that knocks us out, and we got to
oorious lights over the barn and then you dropped out.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
So we found these orange lights in this bush and
we couldn't figure out what they were. We came back
next day in the daylight, and we still couldn't figure
out what they were. It was only a couple of
days after that that we started seeing these very fast
moving white and blue and purple lights. Little orbs that
were probably that big around to about maybe that big around,

(40:18):
just fly and all through this field at night. Some
of them made noises and some of them did not.
And from that point forward I started drawing fairies. True story.
We used to take people up there who didn't believe
in ghosts or anything paranormal, and they would also see
these creatures around there.

Speaker 7 (40:40):
We had a ball.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
It was a great experience.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yep, did you get any video?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
No, that was before we really had video capabilities.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
We did it.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Incredible pictures, some of which you actually have.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
In your queue right not just bring it up then,
thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
So I think we saw that on you.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Start with the one with all of the people. Yes,
that is the one that I drew of her MM hmm, yeah,
she called herself Tatan.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
To me, well she got eagle fibers there or.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeh there isn't and a red chailed hawk fetter.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
She doesn't have the legs as such, does she? What
is that down there?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
That was something that I found with a lot of
the fairy folk that I've drawn, is that they kind
of peter her out at their hands and their feet.
They really are more ethereal.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Right. I do realize people think you're probably crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I really don't care anymore. I don't. I enjoy my
life and I know enough people who have had very
similar experiences. I really I don't care your Everybody's entitled
to their own opinion. I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah. When we've got a certain skiptic called Lous reviews
in the UFO community, and he reckons people either have
a mental problem and neither go and see a shrink
to see if they can get it corrected, or hallucinating
because they're taking medications or drugs.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
None of the above.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I smoke a little weed, but that's about it. I
don't even drink. So yeah, nope, not me, and I
really don't care what other people think. It's okay with me.
Everybody's entitled to their own opinion. That's how we all learn.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Yeah, I said, what happens if you've got video proof
of what you saw, that sort of changes it from
hallucination world.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
You can't even prove that in today's world. You have
AI and you have some incredible video editing software. It's
hard to prove any which.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Way unless people know you and trust what you're saying.
I guess people were growing up with me for the
last ten years and they know when I say something
that I'm actually being really truthful about it, and they
wouldn't corn anybody out of money or anything like that.

(43:22):
So when I say I saw a tall white Nordic
next to my bed, and I actually get proof on
the video because I've got a camera's two cameras set up.
One camera went down, the other camera. I was on
color mode and it was good enough to catchure enough
light in the room because it was early morning, like

(43:44):
five AM, and I enhanced it and bingo, that's what
I saw standing next to the bed. So you know,
that to me disproves it it happened. Plus, when the
alien gray showed up and they were sticking the needle
in my back had a cyst that grew to about
two inches big, and it was really painful, and it

(44:07):
kept leaking from it for two months after and I
actually took a photograph of it at that worst to
show people, and I didn't even think about it collecting
it for evidence at the time. I just thought I
just needed to see because I couldn't see what was
on my back. I could only just touch it with
my fingertips. It's right in a place where it's very

(44:29):
hard for you to reach to right. So I took
this picture and I went to the ductor and said,
I've got the cyst in the back, and he had
to look at it, and he said it was just
a skin cyst. But it may have been a skin sist.
It may have been a reaction to the needle that
was sticking into me, but I couldn't tell them that
what actually happened. And the reason I know that they

(44:52):
were there sticking a needle in me is because the
next one and I woke up pain free because I
had a really really bad back pain. And it wasn't
around four weeks after, but we got some slow, slowly
some paint back in the back and then it went
away again, and I was sitting on the edge of

(45:16):
the bed, thinking, I'm pain free. What happened last night?
And these memories started flushing into my mind. Off this
aivan gray I was looking at and yeah, I thought,
I thought, wow, that was just amazing. And did they

(45:37):
come and fix me up on purpose? Or was there
were they experimented on me? And this is the first
time I remember them actually doing anything to me. The
funny thing is Mum said days later that she heard
me screaming. I don't know if it was at the
same time she heard me screaming, and she thought it
was TV. I had the TV up to loud or something,

(46:00):
and she was sinking, Oh, I hope he turns the
TV down because Dad's going to get angry otherwise because
they're in the room behind me.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
But yeah, so it's all that sort of synchronicity and
constance goin. But I did have this great big crash
sound on the roof one night, and I had the
mobile phone set up to detect any sounds and start recording.
When I looked on the smartphone, that particular timeslot had

(46:33):
been deleted off the phone, and I thought, that's really crazy.
But I remember getting up and having to look around
the house for burglars or the usual thing, and the
dog was dead to the world. You know, the dog's
normally very sensitive to noises like that and thing. And
everybody wasn't dead to sleep in the bedroom of that

(46:55):
particular night, and you couldn't wake them. It's like they've
been so knocked out of a drug.

Speaker 7 (47:03):
All of them.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, so yeah, first time. You know, I've heard lots
of people say that aliens can delete things of memory cards.
So that's the first time I experienced something strange like
that actually happened. And it's not the first time. I
also had video get deleted.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, I've done a lot of haunted house investigations where
they not only drained your batteries, but they would delete
cards and film. And I've had them trash my equipment
and not just one, me too, multiple and multiple DVRs
just done fried in one.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Investigation saying what's what's happening with me? And when you
tell people this are skeptics, they just think it's this
abnormal camera faults. You know, it's just nonsense. I know better.
I do know something about electronics, and I got two

(48:02):
degrees and computer science and so I know my stuff.
And my dad was a senior electric electrician and electronics
tutoring and he talked about how chips are made and
what's inside chips, and he was in the RAF for
UK was he traveled around the world setting up reader systems,

(48:26):
including Libya where we actually went along and lived there
for a year and a half where he was stationed
there and we swam in the is it the Dead
Sea or whatever it is there. So yeah, there's pictures
of me on one of these Muslim houses over there,
sat looks with flat roof and playing around with a tortoise.

(48:50):
I think it was had a pet tortoise as a
one and a half year old. But yeah, that day,
that's when the days when in the Middle East was
friendly with the West, you know, so I'm not sure
what happened.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yes, thank you very much, Michael, Yes, yes, and Bore.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Yes, Now you can read better than like it. I
have to swim in to read unfortunately. Kate Frankenstein with
Jeane Wi Jeane Wider what they're talking about movies you
would sit and get stoned with talk total shite for

(49:35):
like eight ls. Yes, Tom lady, Yes, that's all right
longst people, as long as people were happy in their
lives as to what the main thing is, right and
a good person.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
That is absolutely correct.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
You don't need religion, You just need need to be
a good person.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
O Kate, I'd love to know more about where you are.
I understand you're in Orlando, but yes, I also connect
with the nature thing and that's that's where I get
a lot of my inspirations. So this particular drawing was

(50:27):
inspired by a photograph that was taken, which is also
in your queue.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, I've had a look at it. I might have
an explanation for it, but my debunk and skipped itself
kicks in. But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I'm on it, go for it, let me have it.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
So you're taking a snatch shot of this party, but
there's something in the background up here. I believe we
can we can assume on this and have a place
to look at it. I think there you go.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Well, there are some other images there that I already
zoomed in on too, if that would be helpful.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, I'll get to that in a minute. So we've
got a light source here, yeah yeah, yeah, and we've
gotten a light so sleeer but this one looks like
it's connected to the house. A light source here.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Is there is a little barn that is about twenty
feet back. Then that's what the that's what that heartage
is that you see, right, it is.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Behind the gate that you They didn't have a light
on the front of it.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
No, sir, it is completely without electricity up.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
There, right, Okay, we'll just go on to the next one.
I'd like to you know, if you had a video
of it, did you actually discover this after the effect
and during the siting, right, Yeah, this.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Was discovered when we were going through the pictures later.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
So you're trying to say, this is one of these theories, right,
this is the theory quick too.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
That's that's what I think it is. I think that
that's my girl, Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
And that one I have lightened it up so you
can kind of see that there is a gate behind
that about ten feet and then behind that gate another
ten or fifteen feet is a barn and there is
no electricity up there at all.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Now skipt it would say that someone they had a
torch and a muff or something like that, flew by
and at the time you snap the photograph, because can
look yeah, you can see there might be some motion
blue happening here.

Speaker 7 (53:15):
And uh, if you will.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
The way down match a little light right in my lap,
keep going down down down there it is.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You got a light see with the fire fire.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
But if you go up on my leg right there,
you will see another light that matches the one above
my head.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
That one there, that is, that is what.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I'm saying, all right?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Is that your sudden behind.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
That is that's my youngest son. Uh huh, yes, whenever
he was a child, he's now like not a child anymore.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Yeah, that time flies. So you're saying this is the
book the barn and Christian or another bond.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
That is the only barn that's right there?

Speaker 1 (54:26):
No, No, is it that the connected to your story
of seeing entities? Or was it another bond?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Yes, actually several barns on this property.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
All right, let me just have a look.

Speaker 8 (54:45):
Needed ten pounds through super chat. Colleen is the best
guest you have had down to earth, grounded and very talented.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
You.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
So, yeah, it's certainly very lit up. But I guess
the camp when the camera was taken the flesh were
illuminated something that was there right what you're seeing, or
whether it's a bug or a couple of bugs or whatever,

(55:20):
doesn't really matter. It's obviously reflecting off something that was
there physical right, yes, or something.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
There is providing elimination, yes, the other.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
That's all the images we got from you there on
that one. Have you got any other snack shots like
that of creatures? Is that any sketchbook?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Or was it?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
The sketches not photographs.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
All the rest of them are just sketches. I think
I do have at the very end of the book,
I made a werewolf mask, and there are some some
photographs of that. But that's photos in that book.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Okay, I know you do paranormal investigation too, but you
can get into that next if you want. We got
some videos here queued up here that you've given to
le Cpu.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Come on, remember which ones I sent to you. It'll
be fun to look at.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Let me just bring up the web page again. So
in the description here, what is it not scrolling? Let's
see what are faeries, angels and mystic beings walked among us?

(56:40):
Paranormal investigator and artist Colleen Kaufman reveals a hidden world
women with magic in her enchanting book, The Adventures of
a sketch diary. I think it's about yes Steen dollars us.
I guess. I think I saw it fifteen as well

(57:01):
on different sites when strange occurrences begin plaguing and old
barn property cared for by the Kauflan's family, which was
quite a big place, fifty acres, was it? I think
it was about that. Yeah, she discovered it was inhabited

(57:22):
by supernatural forces. Her sketch diary documents first hand encounters
with these bands through over forty What's How's that? How
do you say that? Word drawings and stories, Kaufman gives
glimpses of radiant fairies spelled what's the English way is it?

(57:45):
I know it's two different Yeah, I think there's two
different spellings on the same page. You can spell it
that way or you can spell it this way. Mister
spirits wise elementals and mister Fine supernatural events. You will
peek behind the veil as she uncovers the secrets of
glowing fury rings, gets lost in a beautiful but disorientaint

(58:10):
in forest, and dances with alf like creatures, experience profound
connections with angelinic guides, aerie visitations from a benshee, and
chilling ruins, run ins with ominous shadows, couflin even chronicles

(58:31):
being asked to sketch dark entities in exchange for good
behavior and the creepy fulfillment of their promises. The reatures
of the sketch. Starry invites you on a real life
journey into undiscovered realms for you dare to believe in.
Let Colleen Coughlin capture, capturvate your imagination and open your

(58:56):
mind to magical possibilities. He brings in churchment back to
the world. Yet I'm just my English is not as
good as everybody else is because I grew up in
different countries and I started schooling, and also I got
my eyes working against me. I've got cataracts and one

(59:20):
eye which is fast sighted, so I can't read, write
and unless the sum in. Although I'm going to i
optician in a couple of weeks to see if I'm
glasses to solve that. Maybe obviously what they have to
say that helps. And my right eye is old and
it's like my cataracts eye is like you know how

(59:43):
you get leads that are white and you get leads
that are warm warm, which is more yellow. Well, my
right eye is when I look at white, it's more yellow.
And if I look at the new cataracts lens, everything's
like super bright white. I mean it's like ten times
maybe the saguration at least three times the light going

(01:00:06):
into my eye on the left, and that was on
the right now. But yeah, the problem is, I've got it.
I've got this damn order imming problem. I'm not sure
if it's aliens that caused it, or maybe the vaccine
that I took with the COVID stuff that caused it
but or amplified it. But it's been down hell since

(01:00:30):
twenty nineteen for me, so and howthwise.

Speaker 7 (01:00:33):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Yeah, I live with really saw ankles and feet that's
swelling up to really double the size at the moment,
and I'm trying to lose weight because them system causes
me to be really hungry some days and I'm trying.
We're trying to do it with medicines to sort that

(01:00:59):
out and all that sort of stuff. It's been going
on for a good year now, so the bad stuff.
But it was after I had the cataracts eye operation.
They put me on these damn pills that made me
like super hungry and messed up my what is that

(01:01:19):
peturity gland in business? But anyway, problem enough for me anyway.
But that's why if I struggle reading, you'll know why
I do get attacked about it. You know, Worsters went
on on the phone, and I'm using that stupid little
touch keyboard on a phone, and you always push the

(01:01:40):
letter next to it, but I don't see it first
of all. To me, it always looks correct until I
read it maybe the next day and whether the eyes
are a wee bit better, or read it next day
on the computer screen and I think, oh shit, well
dipos are got But people seem to read through it anyway.
But anyway, I'll just make it excuses.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I have done for a lot of same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Mm hmm. So we got the rabbit Hole Club. I'm
not sure what's it's about you we want to explain that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
So the rabbit Hole Club was something that I started
after I had my go around with the COVID vaccine
and COVID that not only tore my body up but
also destroyed my career, which is why I changed gears.
And the rabbit Hole Club is I started my own
little podcast that I ignore.

Speaker 7 (01:02:34):
Far too often.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
And I started doing some things some just some cool
podcasts about things that I felt like people needed to
know in the paranormal world.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
M true. Maybe you should interview me for it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Oh, I'd love to if you'd like to do that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
I would love to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
We could do this, Yeah, thank you, no problem, We
could do that sometime about Yeah. I've got a lot
of evidence and stuff that I can faveal to people
on your shows too that it makes a bit more interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I would loved you great.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah. So yeah, you seted up this club and it's
a podcast, you say, yes, so people can talk talk
to you like a has it got like a chat
board on there that you can talk to people about
their own experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
No chat board, it's just mostly it's just the podcast episodes,
uh and and a lot of them have some great
videos and some awesome images as well. Uh. The video
gallery is a great place to go to.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
It will Yeah, this will give you exactly where you
want to be. There's a whole lot of stuff in there.
There's some videos that I've gotten on my own, weird
things in the sky and strange lights here and there,
and uh, just paranormal fun mm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Hmm, things like a couple of years ago. It was
the last supposed though a year and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I said, I record it far too much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Yeah, so you lose people, maybe they won't come back
and watch it if you set it up again. People
people are a wee bit white that with the web,
you know, if you like when I lost my life
streaming for YouTube for three months, I lost a lot
of key people in donators and people just got really

(01:04:47):
angry and Nike against me, claiming stuff that was not true,
that I think I had some moles inside my in
a circle that were spreading lives about me for god
knows what reason. Maybe they were being paid off by competitors,

(01:05:10):
but they caused a lot of damage, and lucky enough
some of my friendships they came back to me and
said they apologized and realized I was correct in the end.
So yeah, I think, you know, I need to shut
out people when they go antely because.

Speaker 8 (01:05:31):
Five pounds through super Chat. I want to say again, Colleen,
your art is extremely impressive. Focus on that slightly smiling face.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Yeah, we can go over it more than Yeah. We
ain't got no time limit today, Like I told her
that she can keep on going for as long as
you likes.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
But sure, we've got a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, we're interesting people, you see.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Yes, Michael, there have been incredibly weird storms in the
United States over the last few days. Ye. Yeah, and
along with a lot of crazy things falling out of
the sky and messages on people's TVs and cell phones
and all kinds of craziness in the United States over
the last couple of days.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Normally water generates a lott of energy, and they reckon
amps up paranormal stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
So absolutely, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Yeah, So if you if you go to stream and
you back here, apparently that can sort of cause a
lot of the paranormal to collickt to thee as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
High crystal or quartz crystal content in your area will
also ramp up your normal activity.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
We live on an old quarry and old granite quarry,
so we have some We just moved here this last November,
so we have some very interesting stuff going on on
this property too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Okay, and this scape with you if they win a
lottery or come over to America and escape with you, maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Come on, bring it, dude, come on. Michael says that
cam trails were admitted recently. Also, yes, yes they were,
but they didn't call them kim trails. They called them
what do they call them? It makes me angry to
think about this. So, yeah, they did admit to the

(01:07:49):
CHM trails, but they called them cloud seating instead of
chim trails.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
They state the state of Tennessee has petitioned the US
government to make it illegal to fly those chem trails
over the state of Tennessee. That doesn't mean that they
don't still do.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
Geo engineering.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
That's right, Yep, that is absolutely correct. A UFO touchdown
near An Island Naval Station base.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I'll have to check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
When was that this week?

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Okay, oh, near North Island Naval Station base is what
she's saying. Thanks, Kate, I think.

Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
That was Kate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
So at the moment, you got a little people from
the government trying to say that they were behind making
disinformation and well the UFAs you see in disinformation. Yes,
I don't believe, say I believe the destination was covering
up some of the maybe triangle type craft. I believe

(01:09:05):
that maybe the government's behind most of those sitans.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
But then I think that's very possible.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Yeah, the classic flying disc one's different though. They go
back quite a fair distance in time, and we went
and had that kind of technology even back when those
particular photographs or whatever we were taken. But yeah, I
have got one on my channel. I'm not sure if

(01:09:36):
I showed it to you that some filmed some filmed
on a smartphone, a later smartphone twenty eighteen, I think
it was. They had optical soon on it. So one
of the new four K phones have opticals soon. And
I got any thumbnail with the UFO or it. Yeah,

(01:10:00):
I actually get a home page for it. Go to
the home tab. It's the easiest way to get everything.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
So yes, Michael, Yes, and they've been doing it a
long time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
So he filmed this UFA as he was stepping out
his house in Sussex, I think it was, and he
only got like four seconds of useful video and next
time while he's trying to sum in onto it because
their eyes are a wee bit better than cameras and

(01:10:40):
they can see why the filled and better with the
brightness and all that then the cameras. But the technology
will get there eventually. But yeah, this is silver craft
that he filmed. It was hidden into a headwind. It
was hidden into a headwind because it had a vapor

(01:11:02):
trail that was leaking from it that was going behind
it like a train, so we know the wind was
in front of it pushing the smoke going backwards or
steam or whatever it was. And they got two views
where it was like sort of it wobbled and tilted
and mostly it was level, and you see it suddenly

(01:11:23):
speed up and disappear like super fast speed, like hyper sonic.
But you can see it's a classic hat shape there,
and there's a tilted view of it, and you can
see it's got a flat top there as well. Yeah,
so that's one of the best footages ever. And this
guy is a skeptic and he won't release the video

(01:11:45):
to media. He's seen it to move on for a
few miscados to look at, and lucky enough I managed
to get I know those people, and they asked if
I could do some analysis on it, and I did
analysis on it too, and hats of the frames that
he got off the video to see more detail in there.

(01:12:08):
And of course you know about this one here about
the Marajo one that I asked if I could do
analysis on it, and we discovered there was some alien
creatures at the UFO window. So yeah, the guy was
fifty eight at the time, living up in Oregon there

(01:12:28):
on each of a swampy land or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
so I believe him. I've always asked him did he
hoax anything? And he always says no, And no one's
come out to out him because he would have had
to have help putting this that video together. They are

(01:12:49):
two videos. I've got one I could show the frames
off and the other one I could show the full
video off. But there are the two cases that fall
in at one percent that can't be written off so easy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
I have one that I would like for you to
look at and tell me what you think about it.
It's going to be on the rabbit Hole Club.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
It's going to be under the video gallery, so when
you get a chance you might check it out. It
is some very strange lights that I got in the sky.
It's going to be unto the video gallery, which is
the second one from the right. Go down right there. Yep,

(01:13:39):
let's see if we can find it in there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
On YouTube?

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
It is on YouTube? YouTube? Yes, which is where these.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
I got the ribbit Hole Club one yep, YouTube and
show me ghosts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
No, it's going to be under the rabbit Hole Club.
Now that one's really cool. There's some great e vps
in these.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
I'll just go through the ones I got queued up here.
I got this one. I'm not sure it's a special
when or not the best of the e v P
there is e vps. Yes, Then we got this one here,
which she think might be one is insane, maybe an apparition,

(01:14:32):
but I think it might might be the cameraman. I
think it might be camera.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
It was actually the cameraman and the director who sent
this video to me and asked us to please research it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
Mm hmm. But yeah, we can never look at that
one one frame. Yeah, I've had some crazy stuff picked
up on my cameras too. And then this is a
light one you're talking about, I think.

Speaker 9 (01:14:58):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Yes, that's the one I'm talking about. I would love
your chap. I can't even possibly imagine what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I've seen a lot of videos, so I look at
videos pretty much every day, a couple of them every
day for the last nine years. So right, I get
to see the same things.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Oh yeah, fast forward past that. I bet.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I'm trying to, but something else is not.

Speaker 7 (01:15:36):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
It takes a few seconds for me to kill a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Full screw screen. Here they are all right. I don't
know what those are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
It's about halfway through and then all the way to
the end and it is. It's there they are. It's insane.
I don't I can't imagine what these are of them.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
I could see the white dots up here. I have
seen this before a couple of times. Far up there
they were like I think a night what they are
north of me?

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
And now they are all Oh, please tell me me.
I cannot tell you what they are.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
There are hundreds of them. Yeah, what's the time of
this feeling? Sometime in March.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
July March it would have been, No, it was I
don't remember, to be honest about it. I would have
put this video up immediately after I saw them. So
I'm not sure what what the date is on the video.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Oh, here we go. I thought it was a date
coming up. We've got seeing of them. Yeah, as it
stopped the old computers struggling the we for some reason

(01:17:34):
still not seeing many of them. They cameras final we
have to find there we go. We've got one in there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
They looked like, I don't know, they looked like silver
plates that were connected in the middle, and they were
flapping like a bird. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Yeah, I believe they're monarch butterflies. They migrate back and
forth every year. Uh yeah, where that's was that? And
in your location where bats were, you're there by Missouri

(01:18:23):
for siri, Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Think they might in the middle of the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Yeah, I think that. You see the butter graph flies
migrating from that region California. Uh, go around the place,
and they migrate back to Mexico, and then they fly
back from Mexico and fly up to where you are there,
and they accumulate and they flap around and they move

(01:18:50):
all different directions. And because they're sort of orange, but
if you ever look under their wings, it's more like
a reflective type of color they have under the wings,
and it reflects the sun back at the camera and
they appear to be white because the camera has trouble
focusing on them when things Yeah, so you said it's

(01:19:13):
like two circles with a thing in the middle, which
would be the body of the butterfly. Right, That's what
it looked like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Here they were so far up there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Apparently they can go up to aircraft level, up to
twenty to even they can go to twenty to three
d thousand feet I believe, and they get the slipstring
currents and that's how they just open up the wings
and the windows blows them along. Occasionally you see.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Yeah, okay, well, thank you, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
I've seen it on a couple videos. The people don't
believe me when I tell them this mi of butterflies.
But it may not be the monarch once. It could
even be some of the other ones. So there's one
that looks just like a butterfly there right. That one
there sort of gives it away. So even go back,

(01:20:16):
you can see it's got two wings either side in
a body and you've got one hundred and eighty soon.
I watched the camera in your head that you're filming it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:28):
Did it have a spot I was using my I
was using my.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
My android happen to be in the yard and I
was using yep, right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
So you can see that's why it sort of picks alayd.
But it does look like butterfly wings when you look
at it wolf in your case, theory wings you can
see there's the body there, one wing going out that
way and another wing, but it is really pixelated.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Oh yeah, I was way up there and I've enlarged this.
I was in get on that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
There you it's flipping the wind.

Speaker 7 (01:21:08):
We're looking at that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I think I did post a comic. Did I say
it was? These ones often turned up to be birds
or butterflies, But also you also get pollen that shows
up white in the sky like that. Sometimes you get
that cotton candy type. Depends on the season, of course,

(01:21:31):
floating around the ear. It blows off the trees and
bushes and whatever. Spoke on USA butterfly migrations and gliding seagulls,
and you're just assuming the slow right down.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
I thought I knew what they were. I'd be lying.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
So in this case, I think those ones are butterflies
and paranormal unfortunately, but yeah, I think your paranormal tends
to be more in your face. I think from my experience,
you've seen my one with the one that sort of
transforms into a demon at the end of the bed

(01:22:14):
after and then touching my legs, and I wake up
screaming at it and telling it to leave or go away.
They don't. They don't like me, how they think that,
are a bit scared of me, because I'm not scared
of them. Yeah, I'm a fighter, not a scared, scared

(01:22:34):
and screamer. No, I confronted. But yeah, I believe that
the alien grays were in the image too, and I
think they were trying to trap it and take it
away away from me. That's what I believe that night,
that night when it happened. But I'm not sure what

(01:22:56):
the demon was trying to do. Maybe suck energy off
me of some sort. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
That's what they do. That's how they that's how they eat.
Is they scare people, or they make them angry or
jealous or whatever the negative emotion is, and they they
chew on that energy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
All right, there's another video, yeah, with lights. Let me
just play it and we have to look sure. I
know I'm a bit of a party buster when I

(01:23:36):
bunt things that I believe is not paranormal.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
But you warned me.

Speaker 7 (01:23:41):
I knew that about you kind of, but that's me.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
I'd like to get rid of the junk so we
can focus on the really, really good stuff. People don't
realize that, so you's got to always be middle ground
on these things. So yeah, not sure, I said on
this one. I'll read my comment I posted comments on

(01:24:08):
so this thing here.

Speaker 7 (01:24:11):
Yes, and after I.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Stopped recording and put my phone down, what I was
telling you about down in the sky and disappeared.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Is that assuming on this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
That is a zoomed in set. So it is that
light in the sky that's been zoomed and in set.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Yeah, we can also add an extra filters on this
if it still works. So we can change the brightness,
sure do it. And we can change the contrast. Oh
and sometimes you see more that you didn't see. It's

(01:24:55):
like already were seeing an extract there, which is quind
of interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
That is a reflection from the The extra dot is
a reflection from the grain elevator that's standing there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
It does show you've got a lot of light saturation.
That tends to cause lens flair unless you came unless
you move the camera around to show it's not a
lens Fleet's sometimes a wee bit hard to tell.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
No, I know it Ben's flair because I watched it move.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
We can turn up the saturation a bit, we can
under it, I can unexpose it. But so there are
a couple of big light sources here at street lamps,
and I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Yeah, that is a grain elevator that's across the street.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
We can even invert it on here sometimes that shows
that stuff and do supia which makes everythink orange. I'm
not sure that helps any but then you can play
it at the same time with the filters. Well, yeah,

(01:26:17):
there's a carga.

Speaker 7 (01:26:20):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
Okay, so we've got it enhanced to weave it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
And it was throwing off all these weird little light
if you can hear me, get very bright.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
All right, maybe mistaken, it could be Comprissian artiffects, but
I think there might be some smoke coming from it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
I don't I'm not sure what's coming off of it,
but something was definitely coming.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Off of it, Okay, looks like some smoke trail coming
off it. Often these ones tune out be those stupid
bloody Chinese lanterns, but they're more orangey colored than this
because it uses a flame. But we also got these
things called led balloons, and people release them from weddings

(01:27:16):
and they fall a lot of people. They also have
like string with weights on the end, so they can
actually sort of hover there, especially if there's not much
of a breeze, and they can just the led lights
and it can start flickering and as a battery runs down,
and I can even go out and then turn back

(01:27:37):
on and it really fools people. But yeah, this one,
this one, this one could fall into a few categories
unless it moves really strange. It could even be like
like what they call earthflights, which.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
For the entire time I was recording, and then as
soon as I put the phone down, I had to
deal with the dogs. And as soon as I put
the phone down and came back out, it started drifting
down and it landed somewhere I don't know where, but
it was there for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Well that's really like an unknown one in that case.
But unless we see it on the video, it makes
it a really bit harder to work out it. But yeah,
when you see stuff like this, always get the tracking
apps out, like a lot of people get formed by
the International Space Station, person overhead or starlink sate lights

(01:28:39):
and also planes. But this could easily be a distant plane.
But you said it went downwards, which kind of suggests
that you've got to like a plane hidden towards you.
You can see it looks like it has some red
flickering in it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:56):
How about changing colors?

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Are you able to change colors?

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Can you even hear me? Who you talking to?

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
Me? Was that?

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I was, Yeah, I'm getting a really a bit confused
which ones on the video? Which is you? So, yeah,
it could be. It could be that a playing with
landing lights heading towards you. They always look like an
orb and it will start flickering because they've got strobe
lights that sort of get because of the the landing
lights over exposed that hides the other lights behind it,

(01:29:30):
and it will go downwards slowly because it's heading towards
the airport. Because often the landing lights means like in
my case, because I got planes flowing overhead all the
time between fifty and eighty kilometers away from the airport.
So they start on the downward track and they make

(01:29:51):
sure all the landing gears down and all the lights
are on and all that sort of stuff. But yeah, sure, yeah,
that could easily be a distant plane. But you said you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
Stopped fill minute, so but I don't know for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
So well, unless we got the date and time, you
could plug it into playing trek and software in the
direction you look in location, you can actually line it
up pretty good. But anyway, unless you unless you've been
followed in my show for a long time and I
show you these things, it's that's very hard for a

(01:30:27):
new camera to my channel to actually believe. Well, I
tell them. But yeah, if this was sipping around right,
this was doing some crazy stuff the plainestin't do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
It was doing some crazy stuff, but it was standing
still in the sky for a very long.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Time, so you didn actually video of it doing some
crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
I videoed it sitting still in the sky and throwing
off little sparks. Like I said, whenever it started when
it started going down, this guy, I didn't have my
camera on.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
In this case, right this case. Yeah, what we do
is you create a list of possibilities and then we
moved the best one up to the top of the
list all the time. So so you could UAP would
be on their plane with distant plane landing, lights would
be on their led wind balloon would be on there.

(01:31:25):
But if you had a signature with this thing move
and crazy on the video, then we can eliminate those
other ones on the list and be left with UFO
or whatever. That's generally how we work here on this channel.
So yeah, if you saw more, if you saw more

(01:31:46):
than what you got in the video, you can only
take your word for it, right, Okay.

Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I've had guts on here that filmed these orbs in
Australia in the mountains and he plane that one appeared
over his garage out of thin air where he's outside,
and he didn't have the camera on him at the time,
so he ran back inside. By then the thing had
started moving off, so he's got a video of it

(01:32:21):
moving off, and it looked like when I enhanced the video,
it looked like it was like a plasma board had
like little sparks coming off the outside of it. And
I said, I don't know if if that it would
be some sort of black ops craft using negative ions

(01:32:41):
and plasma to move along, or it's just something natural
that they would call earthlights. Australian got a special name
for him. I can't remember what it was called now,
but yeah, so again, people do see these orbs that's

(01:33:02):
look like they're sparkly, like you're saying, which could be
something neatural. It could be something we don't know, but
it's just it's just not enough information, not enough captures
of it, especially not somed In. You know, if you'd like,
if you somed In on that. The thing is you
don't see him during the day like that. You always

(01:33:23):
get him at nighttime or early morning or early evening.
Ain't anyway, We'll disclose it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
One day exactly the same place for over six minutes,
and that was that's whenever I shut it down. I
had to deal with my dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:33:38):
Yeah yeah, but if our planes, Yeah, but if a
plane's in a flight path right of landing lights, it
could be coming towards you for six minutes. That's what
I'm saying. But anyway, Yeah, I found this on the
Wikipedia about sylphs. Yeah, uh, which I think it has

(01:34:03):
a picture of them, But like skybands, I suppose it
talks about how it gets linked into the fairy mythology.
Fether down here, Swiss German physician in alchemy, just Paracelius

(01:34:26):
or whatever his name is, created the term it's life
self self silk strange word sixteenth century described an air spirit. Yes,
and of course it links into earth, wind and fire,

(01:34:48):
water and all that sort of stuff, elemental spirits, stupid mouse.
I know we're computers acting strange today. And literature sixteen
sixty eight German novel French pseudo novel its, on and

(01:35:10):
on and on.

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
But here.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Nineteen seventy six British novel Guardian Spirit for the female
pro what's that antagonist? In popular culture? Willow Willow character
on Terry Brooks Magic Kingdom. Don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
I don't either.

Speaker 1 (01:35:40):
No, associated with fairies. Here we go. Because of the
association with the Ballad of Siphi or whatever. We're identified
with fairies and medieval legends of fairyland.

Speaker 7 (01:36:01):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
They all kind of hang out in the same place.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Yeah, but you're saying they're real. Well, this is saying
their mythology, right, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
I mean, there's a lot of mythological things that are
probably real. Yeah, I am saying that I have experienced
with them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Yeah, Okay, these are photograph I had a queued up
the air as well, and this one. We could have
look at this one.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
I guess that's a crazy one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
I still think it might be the camera out effect. Anyway,
there was this guy through.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
It, so it was the cameraman and the director and
the editors who sent that clip to me, and it
was they sent the clip, Jimmy, but it was only
affecting one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Frame, right, Yeah, I can't uh into camera artiffects are
very strange. Away a feature film.

Speaker 9 (01:37:06):
Called The Albino Farm. This movie was written as a
horror flick based on an old Ozark legend. While the
filmmakers may have taken artistic license with their interpretations and
the movie was not shot at the actual location, the
Albino Farm itself is very real. It's surrounded with bizarre stories,
scary legends, and a strange vagueness in the local historical archives.

(01:37:28):
When the film went into post production, the editors found
something quite unusual and the footage shot on a country
road just outside of Warrensburg, Missouri. The following is an
email from the assistant editor to the producers.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
About three nights ago, we were working on a compositing
shot and we were trying to remove some garbage with
a difference mat. In the middle of this process, we
saw the image attached to this email. I assure you
that no photoshop work has been done, and this is
with a difference mat between a lockdown shot with the
dwarf and the same lockdown shot without that person. What
you were seeing is a degraded image of the original,
and I have no idea why this happened. We shot

(01:38:02):
with a Sony Cinialta F nine hundred at ten eighty
p twenty three point nine eight frames per second on
brand News Sony HD cam tapes and compressed a DV
for an offline edit. Let me know what you think.
It freaks me out every time I look at it.

Speaker 9 (01:38:17):
Imagine being this editor. You're wading through the footage late
one night when a quick glitch in the film catches
your eye. You isolate the glitch in a single frame
and find this image staring back at you. That's where
we came in. Since there didn't seem to be a
technical or logical reason for this image anomaly, producer Joe
Anderson asked us to give our paranormal opinion. Understand that

(01:38:38):
only one frame in this footage was affected with this anomaly,
and the only enhancement we made was to adjust the
brightness and contrast. What you are seeing here is the
actor crouched in the middle of the road with his
back to you. This image has become known as the
Dwarf Road image and has stirred up a lot of interest,
particularly around the old Dwarf himself. Fall forward. This is
the film clip in question from the Albino Farm movie.

(01:39:01):
Find us the frame containing the anomaly. We slowed it
down for easier viewing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
So you need to slow it down a lot more.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
It was really attracted Dwarf Road.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
We still need to slide down more.

Speaker 9 (01:39:17):
We put up our safety cones and supported the very
stylish safety vest to begin our night Vigilant Dwarf Road.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Okay, so here I am.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Now I'll just go back.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
So there is another anomaly that we actually find while
we're there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Also, okay, so the cars came past the actor and
we're just trying to see where it comes up. You
can see this motion blue on the car. Because it's
only twenty four frames a second, it's not high speed. Yes, okay,

(01:39:57):
so just to have a look at the image on this.
We've got windows here that sort of reflecting light. I'm
not sure there's something appearing there already, but we just
stick through it. This is the stuff I like to

(01:40:19):
look at, as you can imagine, go for it.

Speaker 7 (01:40:22):
How about it?

Speaker 1 (01:40:29):
Just trying to see where it comes up. I think
it's kind of comes around a bit now somewhere, doesn't it.
You can see here there's already something happening, like the
light reflection is that cars can pass you see that image,
So you can see there suddenly as a smudge of

(01:40:53):
light as a car is almost opposite the camera and
we've got this big smudgel light. Now see that there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Yes, it's so illuminating the whole thing. We didn't actually
see that on fast motion though, did we. That's where
that's where, that's why it's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Now, that's a transition effect that did not come from
the originally.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Yeah, okay, we need to we need to go we
need to go back of it. I think, so where
did it happen there? Somewhere?

Speaker 9 (01:41:40):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
Nope? No, that car was completely out of frame.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Yeah, I think we're going to have to go back
of it, because you do, the transition effect gets in
the way. I think. I think you repeat.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
I repeat this several different times so you should be
able to get to it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
Yeah, I'm just going back string Bush gave back.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Okay, so you can see it's a little mission blue
there and you can see it spilling over on the lens.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
So what you're going to have to keep in mind
is the video that they were editing when they found
the anomaly. When they found the artifact, did not include
the car. It was just the actor. They actually did
a composite of the two together to create the final video.

(01:42:51):
So the video, the video in question with the anomaly
was just of the actor. It did not include the car.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Have we got the one with the actor? Then have
we without the car?

Speaker 8 (01:43:07):
I do?

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
I need to see if I can find it, because.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
That does change the whole story straight away. You see,
because there's a lot of reflection coming off that off
this car that where they've merged it, and you can
see the merging of light effect that's happening because it's
reflecting off the camera and now the mergent. If the
merging the two videos together, then the light that's reflected

(01:43:31):
off the car is going to be added on also
onto the person.

Speaker 7 (01:43:35):
See if I've got it here, But where.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
Was the face that appears?

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
I think I might have to run some filters on it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Well, you help yourself and in the meantime I will
see what I can find. That was some thing that
they sent to me, and I don't remember. Mm hmmm mmmm,
that's not I'm gonna have to find it for you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Han, Yes, we should better see it in the image
swing unless they chopped out that frame. Did they chop
out the frame on this? They did, yes, so we
went to see it. On this they took one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
Frame out because they could not get it correct for
the video, so they took that frame completely out, and
then they combined the two They combined the two videos
of the car.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Yes, we want we want the image to analyze. Really, but.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Yeah, I don't have the original video with with that
frame and asserted I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Have that, don't I don't. We don't know what's on
the side of the canon and here with they could
have reflected they may have one of those reflectors, you
know they have lights.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
And then about that, because I was I was actually
there for the filming of this. I was on set
for this filming. I was right there behind him where
the cameraman would be. That's where I'm going to be standing.
Everybody young crew is standing behind the cameraman, which is
you can see where he is. He's right behind the actor.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Yeah, but he came because cameras they have shields on
a side of it to stop the lens street, don't
they On those commercial cameras they have these SI.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
The parchitular day there was it was a cloudy day
so there was no sun.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
So they didn't have the side things on like the
big blick. They didn't have them on the camera. It
was a camera like this normal lens it because if
they had the side pits on that would eliminate.

Speaker 7 (01:46:05):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
Yeah, I suppose they call the bundless.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Are the ones that are on each side on top
and bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Yeah, they stop lens f generally, that's why they use it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
I don't remember if.

Speaker 1 (01:46:20):
If they Yeah, if they had those on, then it
makes it even harder to explain because internal lens. Internal
lens problems happen on the side of the camera lens.
So if you get a like a reflection that hits
the side of the lens, it can actually then create

(01:46:40):
a like a superimposed image of whatever was reflected. So
say if someone standing behind the cameraman and you've got
a reflector, their image is being reflected or some of
their lights off them is being reflected back at the
camera on the side, and then it ends up like
being superimposed because the cameo has multiple lenses in it,

(01:47:04):
so it creates a false image. But yeah, it's a
very interesting case, tell you, Paul, I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
Don't remember if it had barn doors on it that
day or not. Usually they run with barn doors, but
I don't specifically remember if they did that day or not.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
Generally, if that's the case, you would have to give
a face photograph of all the people that were there
that day and eliminate them not fitting this. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
Oh, I can tell you right now that it matches
nobody's face who was there. I know all those people.
I worked with them for years, all.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
Right, and doesn't match any of the legends of people
that were there in the past. Is other thing. You'd
have to look and over do a side by side.
That's how I would put this together to make it convincing.
You know, I'd say, well, I didn't internal lens, interactions

(01:47:59):
didn't happen because had barn doors, blah blah blah. People
were situated here behind the camera, man and lights, lights
and reflectors, whatever they use, we're here. Then you can
sort of piece it all together. Yeah, so you can
eliminate things, right, But yeah, it's interesting interesting video. Yeah,

(01:48:22):
I'm not sure what other people down the side think.
I'm just trying to get people to not always think paranormal,
but always think that are we being fooled by something?
You know, something natural? You know, if you're going to

(01:48:44):
really prove it, it's really power normal. That's just awesome.
You know, if you called it on camera right now,
I'm not sure if you've seen a show called We've
Been Handsome, I can't bemve what it was called. Now
he does a power Normal show and they caught a
full apparition walking through frame when no one was in

(01:49:05):
the house and they had all the cameras set up. Yeah,
it's the best capture I've ever seen. And he's an
ex FBI guy if he's lying about how it was captured,
because he was the one that was sitting in the
van at the time with the monitors, and he goes, wow,
we just see you know that they're sort of filming them,

(01:49:26):
and he's in the camera looking at the thing. He says,
you got to see this, and he gets them in
to watch it on the mons plate back and you
can see this lady in white walk through the hallway
like she was holding some letters, what you've been outside
to the letterbox and was bringing them back in, you know,
maybe post on the door or whatever. Yeah, I've actually

(01:49:50):
got a breakdown of it for you on a live show.
I could send to you after the show to have
a look at it if you want. But it's way
better than a single frame because it's on multiple frames
and it lasts a good ten to fifteen seconds. I
think it was. It's just amazing for ah. I know

(01:50:12):
various other people, like Ghost Adventures, claim to have caught
apparitions have been very much like this one, with something
walking through addicts right where you can see like a
ghostly figure. But the Ben Handsome one is way way better.
Your videos just dropped. What's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Yep, I'm back, I'm back.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Yeah, yeah, your video. I'm not sure if you're turning
off the video or we're losing you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
No, no, apparently my signal says it's very good, but
it keeps dropping.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
I will post this one to the side for everybody
to have a nosy at. I'll do that now my
computer can keep up with me. The ghost heads okues,
So who is the character meant to be? Someone that
got killed on the road? Or what did you fit for?

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
No, it was one of the local one of the
locals from they called the Albino Farm, which is a
real place, and it was supposed to have been a
place for outcasts. This is historically correct, by the way.
It was a place for outcasts according to the local

(01:51:26):
religious leaders, and those outcasts in bred and so they
had all kinds of different birth defects and issues with
people who lived there. So this was one of the
occupants of the Albino Farm.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Okay, sounds like a place that ghost of inches and
was it? Taps would have gone to investigate as well,
for you know, right, it was there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
I went to the real Albino Farm and it was
a creepy, creepy place.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
They're talking about all sorts of things on the side,
nappies of all things, green goo. Don't you just love kids?

Speaker 5 (01:52:20):
Just you.

Speaker 7 (01:52:23):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Big boiled fried.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Yeah. So I've posted it out on all the side chats.
They grab it before before it gets deleted by YouTube
or whatever. And they don't like they don't like us
talking about paranormal as well as UFA, so they sort
of suppressed us a bit. Why is it not scrolling?

(01:52:47):
It's a bug in this. There's a bug as a bug.
I got this a see. Yeah, probably one of the
more interesting, yes, with at least some video evidence and
stories at least, which is good. So it's good to

(01:53:09):
have some fresh faces on here. But you're welcome to
always come and join us on any other live show
on the side chat of your board or whatever. But
and we got one here of EVPs that you want
us to play as well, don't you. So let's have
a look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
Oh, you're like goods.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
There's some fun stuff in this one class A class
want a really good ones. But yeah, the other ones came.
I hear when they play it and they put up
the words of the screen, I hear something different to
what they claim they hear. So but yeah, definitely, But
you can prove that they've got on multiple mics now

(01:53:53):
which they say this is when we heard it of
our own ears, and we also got it on the
mic on the camera, but we also got it on
our recorders. When they do evidence like that, it's really
hard to fabricate the evidence right and claim it's some
sort of Quirk's some sort of quirk with the radio
interference to the microphone on the device that's being used.

(01:54:14):
Blah blah blah.

Speaker 8 (01:54:16):
Hey Mike, Michael King donated five pounds through super chat.
Paul Colleen Brown the best in you. You're buzzing slightly
smiling face at K.

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
By the way, Yeah, so let's just move on to
the ev face.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Thanks Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Yeah, thanks. I am always scared to do v vps
because that sort of invites them more and I don't
want to when I'm sleeping stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Well no, you up the walls command loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
It's had enough to sleep as it is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
That was very clear to get out.

Speaker 1 (01:55:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's clear when you slow it down.

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Yeah, it's not slowed down.

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
All that saying says clear out. I thought I heard
clear out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
The same spirit on two different occasions. One says get
out and the other says helped me out.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
Uh huh okay. It's funny how this speech is sped
up on some things and you slow down, it starts
to make sense. It's like, yes, it's like they're on

(01:55:58):
a different time rain, you know. Let they're on fast
speed and you're on slow motional or something.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
Again, this could be not necessarily someone that's died in
that property, but it still could be like some entity
that's come through a portal there that used to live there.
It could be it could be some creature, but it
could be a human that's also seeing you at the

(01:56:31):
same time, but they're in another universe, but through the
portal they see you as a ghost as well, and
or they see you as an intruder of course, sufficing
you in a say is get get the f out
of here, because you think it might be intrue. So
you've got to think think of it like that as well,
that it may not be someone that's dyed. It might

(01:56:53):
be someone that's living but in a multiverse and they're
seeing you and they freak out in the the the
US something spiritual or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
You know, that's really an interesting perspective. Thanks Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
Yeah, I know I've talked about it before, but it
would make sense why the sound would be spared up
because through the portal, the time compression would be altered
and it would be spared up. So that would explain
why that is. I'm just looking at a scientific view

(01:57:31):
and stuff that's been fed through me through dream states
to try and explain things because the multiverse idea fits
in with lots of things time slips, time travelers, strange
unities coming in, bigfoots and aliens of course, so we'll

(01:57:56):
just keep on playing it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:58):
My name is Chris. I've lived in Butler for about
ten years in the years two thousand and eight.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
So that sounded like get out something sounds like three words?

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Get out?

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
Sounded like to me? It sounded like they said get
out quick.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
It's a bit hard to tell because it's split up.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
Mhmm it's September.

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
Yeah, I didn't quite catch that. But again, couldn't get
out like it could be get out. That's sort of
all right, Yeah, it could still be get out, but
it's joined together, you know, sho out. That's yeah, yeah,
you said possible. Yeah, just keep on listening.

Speaker 2 (01:59:13):
What's your name.

Speaker 1 (01:59:17):
I'm really good at the stuff amplifying sounds. So you
can use Audacity and the various filters to amplify that
really low sound up and bring it, bring the details
out and get rid of the background noise. Of course,
but you probably wouldn't know how to do that, but.

Speaker 7 (01:59:39):
Will hook you up.

Speaker 1 (01:59:41):
Yeah, So if you if you had the video of
you actually on one and like a picture on picture
and then playing the way for them. That would be
more obvious that you're not playing around. It's from natural investigation,
righting someone's filming you asking the questions. Do it like
ghost of beatures? It becomes more credible then, I think.

(02:00:04):
But yeah, just carry one. That was a fairly loud
one that peaked too what's your bang?

Speaker 7 (02:00:24):
Do you think you are? Have you tried to communicate
with people.

Speaker 1 (02:00:33):
Before you look it out?

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
Yeah, that sounded like yes, yes, yeah, slowed down too much?
Do you want us to leave?

Speaker 5 (02:01:04):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
Where best was that in that old hotel? Did you say?

Speaker 2 (02:01:14):
Actually it was a high school in jail. And this
is what he heard in the parabolic It was music, right,

(02:01:36):
sounds like a parabolic as well as the recorder picking
it up at the same time.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
You didn't hear it with your own.

Speaker 2 (02:01:46):
No, I didn't hear it with my ears. The rest
of the team didn't hear it with their ears. He
was able to hear it through the parabolic dish and
the recorder that we had set up down the hallway
also picked it up.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
So he got it on two devices at the same time,
which which is pretty cool. It sounded like a recorder,
like a like a kid playing recorder.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
I think, or a piano, an old piano.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
I didn't sound like a piano to me. It sounds
like a recorder. What do you think.

Speaker 2 (02:02:16):
It also sounds to me like, well, I've been over
this a lot, but it's also sounded to me like, uh,
there was a vocalization, a singing like some kind of
an instrument and a singing voice as well.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Okay, we'll just keep on playing it. Sure, I still
say it's recorder. My dad used to play that I
didn't sound like a piano because I actually do play

(02:02:52):
keyboard myself. We'll try to I self want lint so
I actually have done something music myself and use some
on videos.

Speaker 2 (02:03:05):
You're very welcome to check out the raw audio. I
do have the raw audio from that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Oh yeah, it's just amount of time. There's so much
going on, you know, and just is not enough hours
on the day. And of course my oh yeah, my
health slows me down to you now lately as well,
which is a bum. Okay, EVP. So that was pretty cool.

(02:03:33):
It's not the best ones I've heard, you know, some
of them are really really clear when you see them
on these particular ghost hunting shows. Of course, everybody everybody's
skeptical off EVP, saying it's you know, like defects and
the recording equipment where electromantic waste from the radio, tel

(02:03:56):
or whatever can actually influence the duct ducked into the
cable of the flying wires of the microphone and actually
produce audio a bit like a crystal radio. That's the
explanation away from it. But to get there on what's here.

(02:04:16):
Of your own ears and recorders, they're the best ones.
You know, we actually see them feeling it, and you
hear kids scream out right, and you think, does it
sound like like an owl or animal? Because some of
them do sound like they could be an animal. But
again those ones can sound like a kids as well, right,
but when they got speech, you know, like a full

(02:04:39):
blown speech sentence as well. In the heir of their
ears as well as recorders, they're the best ones. It's
very few often though, but I've pretty I've pretty watched
every sort of paranormal episode that's ever come out, and
there is occasionally some really really good stuff. Sometimes they

(02:05:01):
don't catch or anything, and that's when they start fabricating stuff,
which is the claims, because they want to keep the
ratings going then because they're on TV, it does put
a bit of doubt on things, but sure, I think
people will watch a paranormal Yeah. I think people will

(02:05:22):
watch a paranormal investigation even if they didn't find anything
on that location at all, because people will want to
see if anything happens. So you don't need to miss
around to get ratings.

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
That's yeah, sorry, we proved that when we don't jack
around with stuff like that. You know, the most we
do is increase the volume or adjust the contrast and
the brightness. And I can tell you from personal experience
and from working in the film industry that ninety nine
point nine percent of the paranormal shows out there are

(02:06:00):
completely produced. They're not necessarily real.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
They're produced because other people go there, normal investigators and
say the place is absolutely silent, and yet these other
TV shows found stuff. I know there was a breakup
between Nick and what's his name Sack, and they broke

(02:06:27):
up really badly, apparently because there was no sort of
fear well episode there our next leaving us be said, Tom,
not of our team anymore. It's sort he just abe
it's suddenly like he was killed off. Yeah. I kind

(02:06:47):
of like Nick seems more grounds grounded and more honest.
But he did use a crazy sort of contraction from
that boy. I can't belieber what his name was. Where
it sounds like an echo chamber, and I'm very highly
suspect suspect of that device unless I see the circuit

(02:07:09):
diagram and what chips it has in it. But if
they just use paying recorders, then I believe it more
than these fancy devices, you know. But that one that
splits across spectrums of different radio channels, whether they call
it spirit box or something, Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:07:30):
Yeah, yeah, yep, the spectrum.

Speaker 1 (02:07:34):
Yes, they have a full sentence that goes right across
all the frequency, even where there's not even a radio station,
and statics, I believe that's actually happening and can't be
debunked as I concerned, because they show it's down across
one hundred and fifty frequencies. When that sentence happens, it's

(02:07:58):
very short little bursts that says the sound was implanted
into the recorder electronically somehow through paranormal so.

Speaker 2 (02:08:09):
In real time and when you're right there listening, it's
very unlikely to be able to be fabricated. However, behind
the scenes with filmmaking is absolutely, very simply easy to fabricate.

Speaker 1 (02:08:25):
Of course, of course.

Speaker 7 (02:08:30):
It's hard to tell.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
My sister's kids used to have paranormal happen to them.
Her oldest one had is quilked being pulled off him
at nighttime and he would tell it. He would say,
swear with that it talent to f off, and the
sister would wake up. The sister sister would wake up

(02:08:52):
some nights with a kid screaming in the air saying
wake up, wake up, and she'd wake up, would be
like three am or whatever, and there's no in the room,
none of the kids. She gets the checks on the
kids and they're all asleep. But yeah, when he got older,
he joined up with like a paranormal investigator like yourself,
and they went to a place in christ Church, I

(02:09:14):
think it was, and they were sitting in this old
century home and they can hear footsteps and upstairs walking around,
and they knew there was nobody in the house whatsoever.
And the footsteps one is a very common one, isn't it,
So yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (02:09:35):
And doors closing, yep, those things are very common with hauntings, yes, yep.

Speaker 1 (02:09:46):
But yeah, what these guys saying down the side, here,
where's my Chris I disappeared to we're just going to
assume him. Okay, they're talking about each other, or they're
talking about what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:03):
Oh uh, I don't say it's anything towards us or
you at the moment, questions what's this? I had to
come back pause, criticize, and is actually a good thing

(02:10:23):
that it may come across? Yeah, it really just yeah,
it's my way of asking the hard questions, right, and
if our host doesn't ask the persons that's making the
claims the hard questions, that's sort of copping out in

(02:10:44):
my book. All right, But like I said on Middle Ground,
I do believe some people have real experiences, and sometimes
some of the experience they think is real is also
explainable to the sort of you know, the sort of
grown up with the power noormal and they think everything's paranormal.

(02:11:05):
Which is this a case? It's often not like we've
had Well, it looks like shadows walking down the hallway,
and one of lots I see that there had been
a cloud pass over the sun and it was shining
through the window, and of course the lighting had changed
in the room where the door was open, and it
was actually a person walking along, but it was actually

(02:11:28):
the cloud moving along the sun, and it was causing
a shadow in the hallway. So it's things like that
that can throw you off because you know that's paranormal
activity that happens in your house, and you just wonder
if that was. But it's always good to always question
everything that experienced, because some of it might be explainable

(02:11:48):
and not actually paranormal. But I don't know about you,
but I had I have power. Normal happened throughout the day.
It might not be much, it might not be at
night time, but it can happen during the day too.
Now I've been sitting I've been sitting in the kitchen
with the door handles wobbled that sort of thing, and

(02:12:09):
also turned and opened the door. And when it was shut,
and you get the cold blaster air go past you,
and I think that just made a shiver go right
down my spine, and I think, damn, I wish I
had cameras set up. Then A lot of the good
stuff happened before I got cameras. That once I got cameras,
that sort of died down a bit. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

(02:12:35):
but I have got some strange stuff where the whole
light's sense of lights which turn on and there's nothing there,
not a cat, not a mouse or anything like that,
or spied or whatever. Like A shown you that demon one.
But there's more to that footage I've yet to process
that I've spotted where something actually fades away but it's

(02:12:58):
still there. If you you the right filters, you can
see it moving along, which is not an ORB of course,
of course, the girl one you've seen. I've shown you
the girl when next to the bed as well. I
think I'm not sure now, I think I it to you.

(02:13:19):
What was the other one? Uh? I had various as well.
I had various orbs, strange orbs that seemed to be
too bright, and they seemed to come through the curtain.
I don't believe there are bugs because everything was closed

(02:13:40):
during the day. The windows and doors were closed during
the day and nothing was opened up, so there shouldn't
have been any insects or moths in the room. When
I caught this one that flies zig zaggy over me,
and I've caught various ones like that. But I'm not
really an ORB fan. I like full body apparitions and

(02:14:03):
strange stuff with the lights trigger. But one night I
was sitting in the bedroom and I decided to go
to the kitchen to get a drink, and all the
lights are on. My touch lamp next to the bed
was on, and I had this LED light on a

(02:14:23):
stand like a discad light. And I come back to
find both lights are off and my phone was toot
I had it turned off. It was on the side
of the bed on the table. It was turned on,
and it was already on the camera mode. And I thought,

(02:14:45):
that's really strange because the app would have to be
tap touched to bring it up. Even when you burn
up the phone, you know, he you burnt up the phone,
it always goes back to the home screen. And then
the the light turned on. The LED light turned on,
and it's almost like inviting me to start recording. So

(02:15:09):
I didn't even think about that at that time. To
do what it was going on. I thought, this is
really crazy stuff going on. So I didn't think much
about it, and I thought that maybe the LED light
was faulty or some stuff like that. But I couldn't
explain why the side bed light had been turned off,
because you literally have to put a hand on it
to get electroly static on it. I couldn't explain why

(02:15:31):
the phone had turned on, but I suppose it's possible.
Crazy stuff does happen with electronics where it can self
power on. Maybe it was a button and it was
not fully pressed in and it popped out or something.
I don't know, but I sort of sort of in
my own head sort of writt it off. And then

(02:15:53):
the following night, I was sleeping and I thought I
heard click click sound going on, and I saw I
had on a tripod one of these lights that you
use for filming and one of these floodlights in it
where you want to turn it on and illuminate yourself, right,

(02:16:14):
and it was fully charged. But I was watching this
thing and I heard the click click again, and I
could see the led lights that were talking about the
battery level going up and down, and I know you
can't get that unless you click the buttons, and so
that sort of got me to turn on the touch
lamp and then start investigating it, and I found the

(02:16:37):
batteries totally flat. Just what you were talking about happens
to you, and I thought that was really strange. These
are really big batteries in this light that should last
a whole day with it lit up. So unfortunately, again
I didn't have any cameras and I didn't document it.
And you know, it's sort of when you're waking up
and you don't think about that sort of thing. You

(02:16:58):
sort of your mind's and what's going on here and
my dream and or whatever. But yeah, that was one
thing that happened to me. And the other thing is
I had what felt like a goat or a two
legged creature jump on the back of me, and it

(02:17:18):
was taking a step. I could feel stepping on my
back moving forward, and I thought, what do I do here?
Because I was laying on my stomach on the side
and I was on the opposite side. To wear the
touch lamp mess I knew I could, I would have
to really jump up and dive across the bed and
touch the lamp because it was on the other side.

(02:17:38):
Because it was on those queen sides, I'll sleep on
a queen sizes bed and I was on the other side,
which was really abnormal. Normally I'll sleep on the side
where the lamp is, and this night was actually sleep
in the other direction. Maybe because I had a stomach
upset or something, you know, how you change sides depend
on your stomach or whatever. And I felt this thing

(02:18:00):
jump on to me, and I think, oh shit, I
can't be a cat. I was thinking. I was trying
to roll it out in the head. I can't be
a cat because there's no window open and the door shut,
and we don't have a cat in the house, and
the dog's normally sleeping with the parents, and they got
their door shut. So I was thinking, what the hell's

(02:18:20):
going on here as an intruder, And I had this
funny sensation like like, I don't know, it's like something
stepping through you. You know, it's like a touch of death,
you know. No, it felt like a touch of death,
like something had passed through you. And it sort of

(02:18:42):
caused like a tingling sensation in the back. So I thought,
stuff this. I jumped up really quickly and the weight
disappeared and I ran. I slid across the bed and
quickly touched my hand on the light, and sure enough,
there was nothing in the room. And I thought, am
I losing my mind? I don't. I don't normally take

(02:19:06):
take painkillers. I don't take any sort of drugs, and
it wasn't drinking, and I don't smoke or do weed
and anything like that, and I thought, that's really strange.
But it happened at least a couple more times at
random times during that year, and I don't know what

(02:19:27):
it is even still today, but it did feel like
something with two legs that felt not normal feet, maybe
like a dog's foot or a cat's foot, or even
a goat's foot who sweat.

Speaker 4 (02:19:44):
And then.

Speaker 1 (02:19:46):
Years pass on and then I get that orb that
forms into a demon, and I thought, well, there you go,
there's that goat creature. Maybe that was jumping on the
back now touching me again on the feet. So I
don't know who if it's crazy or not, but I
know it sounds crazy. But it all started to cross. Yeah,

(02:20:12):
the paranormal in my life started because of her sister. Now,
she went out and got hitched up with a guy
and then separated them a bit like yourself, and ended
up renting a property that was near a graveyard that
was on a hill. It looked like it had like
reclaimed church land where she was renting, which would make

(02:20:34):
a lot of sense. They may have dug up the
dug up the coffins and removed them or whatever. But
she was laying in bed one night and these two
little girls in white period dresses come run into the room,
she said, and she has sort of drifted off, and

(02:20:54):
her little daughter come running. Then minutes later, like they
were playing hide and seek, and she looked in through
the bedroom she saw her daughter standing there and the
two girls ducked behind the bed because she had like
a wooden foot to the bed, I really call it
a foot brace, not a panel behind and she thought

(02:21:17):
the two girls were hiding behind there. And she says,
to a daughter, where these two girls that you were
playing with? And she looked at her mother funny, and
she ran off. So the sister got out of bed
behind where she saw the kids stuck down, thinking that
went under the bed or something, wondering, not even thinking

(02:21:37):
at the time it's like two or three in the morning,
that there shouldn't be any kids running around the house
that night, and she saw none of these kids. Yeah,
And I was thinking, baby, the kids died from influenza,
because I think there was some the area there had

(02:21:57):
influences and kids and mothers died of the flu. Back
in those days, the flu was pretty bad, but yeah,
And of course months past later, she was up a
ladder one night and one day in the daytime and
she was hanging up a picture to make it more
homely in this rental property, and she felt something pushed

(02:22:22):
the ladder from underneath her and she almost fell with
the ladder. So that was really strange and she never
thought really much about it. Then months went past and
she was laying in bed and the sun was screaming

(02:22:42):
out for the mum, and so she goes at season
and he kept saying, this white lady keeps appearing in
my bedroom, touching my forehead, saying it's all going to
be all right, like a mother chicken off the fever
or something like that. And she said, oh, I don't
worry about it about something. It's just an imagination. That

(02:23:04):
sheet's pulled up here is probably touching your head. And
he said, no, no, mom, this was a real lady.
So this is this is a boy that went talked
about the quilt being pulled off him later on, and
also talked about going to this haunted house and hire
and footsteps when they're investigating. So yeah, he's an adult now,

(02:23:29):
you know, full blown adult and not a baby anymore,
but time flies, and yeah, and then after that she
moved to a house not far away from us, maybe
a street couple of street walks away, and she met

(02:23:50):
this other guy in her life that took her along
to a medium, And as she was walking through the door,
the medium was greeting people it she said, hang on,
I know you're skeptical, you don't believe in this stuff.

(02:24:10):
But she said, I've got this young boy standing next
to me saying that he knows you, and in a
couple of weeks time, you will know sactly who I'm
talking about. And she thought that was a really strange
thing message she got. So she went there and the

(02:24:31):
performance or whatever reading of the people and we didn't
think much more of it. And I was also at
the university staying with my mum back then, and we
used to rent out the top of the house. And
this guy that was at top he left, but he

(02:24:52):
liked living with us. He was like a card groomer,
but he had had some sort of like I don't know,
some sort of mental problem. But he used to smoke
weed very heavily and I don't know, and do primal
screaming at nighttime. I don't know what that was about,

(02:25:14):
but he eventually he was asked to leave and we
never heard from him for a long time, but until
these letters arrived for him out of the blue, and
so mom phoned up, talks up the contact I found
any contact for him, which was his mother, and the

(02:25:35):
mother said, oh, no, he committed suicide a month ago. Yeah,
I guessed himself in one of his cars or whatever.
And my sister's story, Dann sort of went, bingo, this
is the guy that was standing next to the medium,

(02:25:56):
and he said, in two weeks time, you'll get a
something happened that will actually make you realize who I am.
And bingo the letter amazing, And so more paranormal started
happening after that. I don't know if it was him
visiting this or whatever, but my sister had homes. Yeah,

(02:26:23):
my sister had homestays the Japanese and the Chinese and whatnot.
They claim to see a man walk past a doorway
in a big lounge which had no other doors to it,
wearing a top hat, a classic hat man a shadow

(02:26:44):
now hat man type story. And my sister said, oh,
you've probably seen the ghost of my granddad, who was
in the army, he wore hats like that or whatever.
And also other things happened like what was amazing. One
night day she heard this noise like a toy being

(02:27:07):
played with. The kids are at kindergarten or whatever school
and she was the only one home. She heard this
thing going around inside a tour box, not a toll box.
Toy box. Opened up, saw this old plain toy that
refleshing lights and wheels on it. It was spinning around,
so soon she opens up the lead and it sort

(02:27:29):
of stopped spinning and the lights go out and she
grabs it, opens up the battery bay to find no
batteries in it. And I thought, damn, it would have
been really really good to have if you had a
smartphone back then to have recorded this, because this would
have been an amazing evidence. And so she decided to
go and get two brand new batchies to put it

(02:27:51):
in this toy and turned it on and it wouldn't
turn on, and she realized, oh, yeah, that's right, it
was broken years ago. Not only did the paranormals somehow
power it, but they also managed to fix it until
she showed up. That's amazing story, though, but I don't

(02:28:13):
think she was telling lies or anything like that, and
she wasn't on drugs or anything like that. She was
pretty much like me. And the next thing that happened
was apparently when the homestays saw a pop plant on
a stand lift up in front of her and drop
on the floor and smash. And because my sister went

(02:28:33):
running in there and say, oh, well, you just kicked
off the pop plant off the stand, she says, no, no, no,
lifted up. So that's going to take a lot of
energy to do that. So it was a fairly heavy pot.
So we had all these such things, and I did
this go on and on and on about all the
sort of things we had happened. But that's my introduction

(02:28:55):
to power normal and it's just sort of been following
me around since then, although in the last year everything's
suddenly gone. Maybe since I don't know, I'm not sure
why paranormals cease. Maybe because I asked him to go away,

(02:29:16):
maybe they finally did go away. But yeah, and aliens
may have also left. The aliens may have left me
alone too. Maybe they finished with what they were doing.

Speaker 2 (02:29:30):
If we took a little bit of a break.

Speaker 1 (02:29:34):
I was just going to say that do you want
a little break and then you can talk more of
your stuff. But yeah, I'd like to absolutely grab a
drink too, maybe, and so I'll just put up some
credits here. You can step away and we often have
a break that way anyway, So let people grab the drinks.

Speaker 5 (02:29:57):
And what not.

Speaker 2 (02:30:00):
Three puppies who are needing to party and so do why.

Speaker 1 (02:30:05):
You can, right, I'll just put on some music meantime
and you can do your your business.

Speaker 2 (02:30:11):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:30:18):
Uh, let's see where we're going to see. I'm a
scomp plaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's why I got my art,

(02:30:44):
which I do the vain goof thing. This time is
something different, LF, how'd you say it?

Speaker 4 (02:31:07):
Wants composts.

Speaker 5 (02:33:00):
Any day? Anything you're going to do me any day?
A mem.

Speaker 2 (02:35:00):
That that that.

Speaker 5 (02:35:18):
That that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:36):
You do begin I think it's finished on it. I

(02:37:12):
just got back okay, little video made with being go
there actually got one with my Yeah there's something different
for a break video anyway. How many hours we've been

(02:37:34):
doing that? I'm even fun. I don't know about you
count it to what's three hours?

Speaker 2 (02:37:41):
So you're coming up on three hours.

Speaker 1 (02:37:43):
If you ever get tired or anything, just say you
want to go, that's perfectly fine. If you want to
talk about any more of these videos here, we can
go ahead and do anything you want now, so it's
over to you. I guess, well, I'd.

Speaker 2 (02:38:01):
Like to spend a few more minutes with you and
talk about I don't know what I want to talk about,
which there's so much.

Speaker 1 (02:38:10):
Yeah, I know, I know, but so maybe we can
call it.

Speaker 2 (02:38:16):
Maybe we can call it at about three three hours
and fifteen minutes. Maybe I'm gonna go and.

Speaker 1 (02:38:21):
Get what did you comfortable with? I'm I'm quite happy
to go. Another air will say, Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:38:32):
So I do need to get some dinner around for
my family, so I'll have to get around for some
dinner here pretty soon. But I am surely enjoying your talk.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:38:44):
Yeah, you can always come back another day even.

Speaker 2 (02:38:48):
Oh. I would like that a lot anything, And I'd
like to have you too.

Speaker 1 (02:38:56):
Sure open to that. Most people won't have me because
they see me as a debunker, but they're missing out
on some good content. I think.

Speaker 8 (02:39:12):
Check messages on discord chat broke.

Speaker 1 (02:39:15):
Okay, well, yeah, a debunker that also has experiences as
someone that you should be listening to. So I'm that
sort of guy, you know, someone that doesn't do mm hmm.
But I haven't seen any Yeah, I haven't seen anything

(02:39:36):
like you have with the theories and the trolls or whatever.
But sometimes I think everything's connected. Now, this thing I
was experience experiencing on my back and then later having
this messive back pain for years, and then hav an

(02:39:58):
alien shop and stick a needle where that back pain
was and solving it. Somehow, it's all connected, right, I
think it was. Yes, I think they were trying to
get rid of attachment that had attached to me was
causing the back pain. But you know, it's just it's
just a theory. It's just a theory. Okay. You want

(02:40:22):
me to check Discord? Okay, Well there's probably a lot
of comments I've missed, So there any questions or anything
you want to ask our special guest today. Just posted
in the side comments and Colleen will pick it up.
I just got to find where the Discords disappeared to.

(02:40:44):
It's like it's updated today and it's moved the icon.
You're not on Discord yourself, are you, Colleen?

Speaker 2 (02:40:57):
No, I can, but I'm not currently now.

Speaker 1 (02:41:00):
Yeah. I actually got a channel there called the out
there channel that you could easily join if you want to.
I've actually got a power normal section. Yeah, my pin
comment on YouTube there has a link to discord If
you click on that, that's we'll take you there and

(02:41:22):
to the channel to join, and we can just add
you in there. We don't have too many people there. No,
one's a really big chatter. I'm pretty much the one
that posts stuff there each week. But yeah, it's a
good way to share photographs at least up to eight
megabytes each videos. It's no good for it because it's

(02:41:43):
too small there unless you pay nitro they call it,
and you can at least post links to your YouTube
there as well as to your drop by so whatever
they call it a Google box or whatever what they
call it, you know what I mean where you can

(02:42:06):
actually upload the video there and credle link.

Speaker 2 (02:42:13):
That I can find it here.

Speaker 1 (02:42:22):
So pull your chat is broken on YouTube? Are you
talking and it's not updating? Let me just check things out.

Speaker 2 (02:42:34):
Sure do what you need to do for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:42:38):
Oh so it's got excellent connection here, so sure it's
not your end. Anyone else experiencing the same stuff there
as the Men in Black or YouTube interfering again. Mm hmmm.

(02:43:04):
Let's see the thing is I have just called muted,
so if you post comments, see I don't see it
till the end of the show.

Speaker 7 (02:43:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:43:22):
I reckon, it's not planning on YouTube for at least
an hour. Oh, we can check it here, I guess,
play it back ourselves, see how it's going. We'll just
bring it up. I know the computers a wee bit

(02:43:45):
leggy today, but you're seeing me okay and hearing me okay.
It's kind of strange.

Speaker 2 (02:43:54):
Yes, I am, I'm seeing in here and you just fine.

Speaker 1 (02:43:59):
I know you sort of dropped out a couple of times,
but there's only a couple of times. Let me just
have a look. We should better.

Speaker 2 (02:44:09):
Scroll back to sing here and you're just fine.

Speaker 1 (02:44:13):
There we go a couple of times, but there's only
a couple of times. Let's go back and see where
it comes out. I think it's kind of playing all
right there around a bit now somewhere, doesn't it You
can see here, Let's go there. It is walking around

(02:44:37):
and I knew there was nobody in the house whatsoever.
Things those things are right there. It's gonna be uk every.

Speaker 7 (02:44:49):
M hm, and.

Speaker 1 (02:44:55):
Sounds pretty good.

Speaker 7 (02:44:56):
To me.

Speaker 1 (02:45:00):
Back there and.

Speaker 2 (02:45:01):
Purple lights, little orbs that were probably that bigger.

Speaker 1 (02:45:05):
You sound pretty good too.

Speaker 2 (02:45:09):
It sounds okay to me.

Speaker 1 (02:45:12):
Oh is it on YouTube?

Speaker 3 (02:45:17):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:45:18):
I've tried various places here. I'm not seeing any outages whatsoever.
Try there, Thank you, thank you, thank you. No, it's
lots are right on YouTube. I think YouTube's got it
in for Mike. Anyway, we will we Uh. He's posting

(02:45:44):
more stuff to discord. Okay, I must have been. I
haven't been up with all the comments. Kate say something
chick some screenshots. Oh you mean that maybe the side
chat's missing some comments, so that that could that could

(02:46:05):
be true. He's updated the software and I didn't update it,
so yeah, the combine combo chat could be missing stuff.
Let me just check the side chat then, okay, I'll
check YouTube directly. Uh, just reload it to just in case. Yeah,

(02:46:35):
it would be a bit of shame with the life
string after all that talking and evidence that it wasn't working.
That would be a real bummer. But it is going
out to good time yeah yeah, and it's going out
to Rumble as well as what's the other one, twitch

(02:46:56):
and pilled. I'm not sure if it's we killed. I
just have to check there too. How many people we've
got there? Three there, and it's say two on two
likes no likes. Today you've only got two likes. Normally
you can get up to twelve likes on that. That's

(02:47:18):
pretty terrible, guys, Pilled, I'm not sure what's happening to
pill today. We normally get more likes than one and
two and rumble, we normally get two. Yeah, it's kind
of strange.

Speaker 2 (02:47:41):
So the human resonance and we've been hit with all
kinds of weird geomagnetic storms and the human resonance has
been all over the place for the last little while.
It could just simply be an electromagnetic thing.

Speaker 1 (02:47:57):
It's more likely to be some software update. But anyway,
like I said, they've changed stuff every week on US.
I'm just chicken swimming on the other screen because I
can't read it otherwise. Check screens, shots, I sit in discord.

(02:48:21):
Nothing Kate Kates, Okay, looking at Kate now just for
surf for guests on panel. Ha, give me that link.
I'm not sure what links she's talking about. Blue orbs
kick pool she kicks Paul, Yeah, I think that actually

(02:48:41):
works on the combined chat. Uh, Paul is high now
I'm ready drug free. I live in pain. I've actually
got paint. I've got pain and at least five joints
today today, I've put some information cream on them. But yeah,
I'm still living with lots of pain at the moment.

(02:49:02):
But yeah, I sort of used to pain. Nothing really
froze me off. Yeah, nothing froze me off being happy
and being myself. It's just all part of a test.
I think. Check messages and discord we did. I have
no idea what Paul was doing. I'm not sure what

(02:49:23):
they mean by that refel refel what's that? I'm not
sure what I'm meant to have mess miss But yeah,
I can probably pop it and show it here. Maybe

(02:49:45):
just bring it up there again. H don't have to
have the video plan, thinking the world come up though.
It's got the strange there's the chat. I just saw

(02:50:08):
it disappeared. I was it not showing me the chats?
That's kind of weird. A is it a YouTube thing?
I don't have to have the video plan. I don't

(02:50:30):
know YouTube messing around? Aren't they I reloaded again? I
tell you, they just don't like me. I didn't do anything.
Just a nice guy, give me a chance. See it's
got this thing dimmed here. It shouldn't be dimmed, you

(02:50:55):
know what. Just funny because I'm using ad blocker and
they don't like people using ad blockers. They try and sabotage.
Yeah that's what. Oh here we are. So then I
hit reload. Yeah, we finally got it to show up,
and it did take my reload. I was just a

(02:51:19):
bit too fast on the trigger.

Speaker 7 (02:51:27):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (02:51:28):
Wow, it's not going to come up now, is it?
Uh ship, Uh no, it's not going to come up.
I'll tell you. Yeah, it's uh maybe hit the play.
But all right, here we get they're bucking around the code.

(02:51:53):
They don't like the end blocker. I think, so what
did I miss?

Speaker 2 (02:51:57):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (02:51:59):
Okay, it was being abused. Okay, maybe I have to
have it on life chat then, because normally the top
chat gets rid of it life chats, I think the
combo chat gets rid of abusive comments. But anyway, you've
got you've got those tool here you can actually get

(02:52:21):
rid of or time out people swearing or whatever.

Speaker 7 (02:52:26):
Oh cool.

Speaker 1 (02:52:27):
They've been discussing the meaning of universe iff and nobody
was listening. Unplugged. Well, I'm not sure. If I did
see those comments come up on chat, I don't know.
I'd have to check the combo chat.

Speaker 2 (02:52:51):
So, yeah, I know I didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:52:55):
Reboot pool Michael Brooke Chat. Where's the abuse? Though it
may it may have already got rid of that person.
Your brain initially blocks out ninety of the input.

Speaker 2 (02:53:11):
Okay, that's where I've started seeing.

Speaker 1 (02:53:14):
Some of these. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why she
didn't here. What happened there? Is that? Just the color?

Speaker 2 (02:53:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:53:34):
Yeah, I don't know either. She's in a different color
to Michael. Maybe you can do that now. I don't know.
They keep changing things anyway. I think it's still working
okay for me. I'm not sure what's going on with
these guys though you can see that it's some little

(02:53:56):
niggles there. But yeah, I just don't know. I don't
know what I've what I've missing. It's we It hard
for me to read the side chat days. You know

(02:54:19):
that's kind of weird, did you know? I think maybe
you have to go live chats to see all the comments,
and the other one is called chat live or whatever,
and they remove all the abusive comments and auto bott
you know. Anyway, we don't interrupt what you're doing. I

(02:54:39):
think it's working all right. We're coming near the end. Anyway.
He's got a screen snatch shot here, which again would
have to be soomed In soomed In because I can't
read it because it's still too blurry and small. But anyway,

(02:55:02):
it means me if I can, If I can, we
can look at it after the show. But yeah, we
both can see each other. Just the tube isn't putting
on your stream? Can you restart the chats? I don't

(02:55:24):
know if that's going to help though, that's what he's saying,
But yeah, I can restart the app, I suppose, But
like I said, he's updated it this week and I
didn't update have an updated it myself. Let me just

(02:55:45):
say a look, I can stop for YouTube and restart it.
I guess, stop and re start and see if netflixes up.

Speaker 5 (02:56:09):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (02:56:12):
Of course he could be working on the code as
we're using on the live show at the same time
as another possibility, but it should be capturing uh well,
the chat because the rabbit Hole Club. Yeah you're there, Chandler.

Speaker 2 (02:56:37):
I don't know who Chandler is.

Speaker 1 (02:56:39):
We haven't seen Chinny Chandler's yet. Nope, we have a
look at your screen print sometime anyway, see what you're
talking about? Yeah, what was we're going to talk about
to wrap up for his show?

Speaker 2 (02:57:00):
Oh, let's see here, let's pick a topic, any topic.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (02:57:05):
Well, I don't know if there's any books of a
books that he wanted to talk about that you've done
or any.

Speaker 2 (02:57:11):
Actually there's a couple of different Yes. I am working
on another on a number two book that is going
to be called Fairies, Ghosts and Cryptids, Oh My, which
is my working title. We'll see how that works out.
But that's where it's at, and it's going to go
over some more of my experiences with different entities and energies, cryptids, aliens, UFOs,

(02:57:40):
all of the stuff that I have been dealing with
the other one that got thrown in my lap here
about a month ago, and I wasn't expecting. It had
to do with my dad, And you know, he passed
away a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 5 (02:57:54):
And.

Speaker 2 (02:57:56):
He when he heard attack about six weeks ago, he flatlined.
He coded in the er, so he had an ND
and when he came back, when they brought him back,
he had quite some tales to tell, So that's another
one that I'm going to wrangle and get written down.

(02:58:17):
It's going to take me a minute to work on
that one. That's a little sore right now.

Speaker 1 (02:58:22):
Yeah, right now. Is there any things that he said
that you could tell us now perhaps does a little
glimpse into it, Like did he see a tunnel that
sort of stuff?

Speaker 2 (02:58:38):
No, he didn't. That was the interesting thing. He didn't
see any lights. He actually saw a very dark tunnel
with a with a statue of himself that was made
out of like some type of black shiny stone, like
an onyx or an obsidian, and he watched it come
back to life like that and step back out of

(02:59:00):
the hole.

Speaker 1 (02:59:01):
That sounds.

Speaker 2 (02:59:04):
It was. It creeped me out when he told me
about it, But he said, no, there were no lights,
but there was a tunnel. So that's kind of a
little teaser there. He also wanted me to tell everybody
who would listen to remember the ancient magic. And I'll

(02:59:25):
get more into that whenever I'm able to, when things
aren't quite so sore for me. I need to digest
on this just a little bit. I was able to
get a lot of recordings of him in that month
that after he came back and then left us again.
So I have a lot of vocal recordings of his story,

(02:59:49):
so I'm really anxious to share that.

Speaker 1 (02:59:52):
It will be interesting. So when you do that book,
you have to come bick on and talk about it.
I guess, love you, Thank you, without giving out too
much of your book, of course, but yeah, so people
can buy that on You have a book on Amazon,
and I don't think i've post the link to it.
I'll do that now, thank you. Some books printed, yeah,

(03:00:21):
some books of Beta is printed rather than e.

Speaker 7 (03:00:24):
Books, I find, yes, and this is one of them.

Speaker 1 (03:00:28):
Yeah, so I'll just post the other two.

Speaker 2 (03:00:34):
The other two will have multimedia involved because there's multimedia
to involved, so we can do a lot of it
in a print book, but I think they're going to
be better as a multimedia experience. So me and my
publisher of talking about that.

Speaker 1 (03:00:56):
All right, Michael, what are you saying nice to cover
pick by the way. Okay, Well we're getting your messages.
I'm not sure what's going on other people though, thank you. Okay,
So you know, it looks like it's working all right

(03:01:18):
to me here now where it was doing before I
don't know. This is what we need like muldible mods
and side chat on YouTube and other places. I guess
because when I when I'm hosting, I'm pretty busy. Plus
I'm also checking the software out all the time, making

(03:01:39):
sure that it scrashed. So is there only one book
you've got at the moment you're working on another book?
Have you got any other books that you've written? Is
it listed here somewhere?

Speaker 2 (03:01:52):
Actually?

Speaker 7 (03:01:52):
I wrote one after my mother died.

Speaker 1 (03:01:56):
Okay, any of these? Yes, yours?

Speaker 2 (03:02:00):
Now you will find me under Colon coffin.

Speaker 1 (03:02:05):
How do we get to all your books on this
cult horror? Click on your name probably let's see. Okay there, oh,
here we go. So we got one called My Sketchbook.
How is that a new cover?

Speaker 4 (03:02:24):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (03:02:26):
So that is some artwork of mine and it is
just a blank sketch diary for people to kind of
do the same thing I did.

Speaker 1 (03:02:36):
Okay, the price is hi, here are they? Let me
just check this one? Night's eighteen five dollars, kindle six dollars,
I think nineteen dollars for that one. The game and.

Speaker 2 (03:03:03):
Rambling and doodling of Mary T. Kaufman, and it is
basically my mother was. She was one hell of a
wit and an author herself, and after she passed away,
I found all of her writings and her doodlings, and
I compiled them into just kind of a tribute to her.

Speaker 1 (03:03:24):
Okay, this loice.

Speaker 2 (03:03:30):
That was, yeah, but it is no longer available, Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:03:37):
And that's all it's got listed.

Speaker 2 (03:03:44):
Right now.

Speaker 1 (03:03:48):
Well, hopefully that people keep watching this in the future,
and they watch this show and they like it, and
they see your books and maybe they'll buy something saying
that you're away.

Speaker 7 (03:03:59):
I hope.

Speaker 1 (03:03:59):
So you is your podcast video only or audio only
or both?

Speaker 7 (03:04:07):
You know what I do, both audio and video.

Speaker 2 (03:04:10):
I recommend that you do the video on the YouTube channel,
just because it has so much video and image stuff
that you don't want.

Speaker 1 (03:04:21):
That makes a lot of sense actually, all right, So yeah,
we've got a lot more we can do in the
future then, and we will stay in Chuch.

Speaker 2 (03:04:31):
I hope, yes, please, I've liked that a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:04:35):
Okay, So that's your book done with, posted it out
the side there anything else we did that one, which
sure was a pleas or or some coins? Yeah, these
two locations. I don't think you talked about those ones,

(03:04:56):
did you have the Kansas one, so still is.

Speaker 2 (03:05:00):
A cemetery in Kansas. And no, we did not talk
about that a cemetery.

Speaker 1 (03:05:06):
Do you want to leave it another day?

Speaker 7 (03:05:09):
Sure, let's leave that for another day. That's a long one.

Speaker 1 (03:05:14):
We'll maybe schedule going and well a couple of months
story or a month storm or whatever. Yeah, we can
carry from lift.

Speaker 2 (03:05:26):
Yeah, quite working on.

Speaker 1 (03:05:29):
Right now, all right, so we pizel it and for
some time. Then in the future I'll probably try and
get some more gifts on through what's his name, I
forget his name now, the guy that got us in contact.
What's his name from hang away?

Speaker 2 (03:05:47):
Calvin?

Speaker 1 (03:05:48):
Yes, Calvin, yeah, so yeah, he sent me another person
to have a look at after you, So I'll do that. Yes,
And then we got this summer one up here as well. Okay,
so we can do cover that next time. It's amazing

(03:06:09):
how much time time we consume it. It just saves us.
I've got this little tool here saves all the tabs
so you can just reload it back another day. And
it's called session. This one here has changed it to
it unless you just save all your tabs so you
can just reload them later. So you can say save

(03:06:32):
them all here.

Speaker 2 (03:06:34):
That's a great little thing here.

Speaker 1 (03:06:37):
Saves there, and then you can actually go here and
rename it, and anyway you can always refer back to
where you're left off is rename. Yeah, I suppose.

Speaker 2 (03:06:53):
Collection titled what it Says.

Speaker 1 (03:06:57):
Colleen to Okay, it changes it there. So there's a
little add on you can add to your browser, and
I think it works in all browsers via Fox, Chrome
and Brave, and then you can always go back to
it and all these book mats. See, so when I
get a little book mats, sometimes I just save it

(03:07:19):
and give it a name, just in case something goes
terribly wrong, and you can just recover it later on.
So I can now delete all those if I want to.
But then I can just say open and it opens
up a new window and fills up all the tabs
ultimately for you. So that's called session buddy. I think.

Speaker 2 (03:07:46):
Session buddy.

Speaker 1 (03:07:47):
You can just google it, session body. You can type extinction.
It should come up with a list of them for
different browsers. There's Chrome, so you can just clock on
that one, but there'll be other ones here for other browsers.

(03:08:17):
I think you probably have to. There's edge there each
uses the crying ones, and so does fire whats Fox anyway,
so you're gonna take Firefox. Yeah, didn't call it equivalent
to session body for Firefox tap session, but yeah, it's
equivalent to session manager for the other one. So there

(03:08:41):
you go. And not many people use Firefox, I guess.
So I use all browsers they've got sort of benefits,
but I use Browser Brave browser this one here because
it's the fastest, and I'm actually running the version here,
so it doesn't automatically update. And you know, as you

(03:09:03):
update sometimes as you lose things, so this doesn't update.
So it's always a portable browser I use for live streams,
so I know it's always going to be constant and
not updates until they originally time it out. So as
HDML evolves, the browser forces you to upgrade the browsers

(03:09:25):
that load the next edition of HDML pages. You know
it's got some ad butchers and security fixes and stuff.
But yeah, now I can just clear all those off
right of you, and I know I can reclaim them back,
so I can say, what is it. I think I've

(03:09:48):
got another add on here somewhere. Well, it comes with it,
like you can say, clear all the ones right. I
can't see it at I don'tunderstand why close other tabs closed? Tap?
There we go, close tabs to the right. So why
is it not lit up? Though?

Speaker 2 (03:10:10):
Excuse me?

Speaker 1 (03:10:12):
That normally works. I think they add on works better. Yeah,
I don't know why it's not going out. That's kind
of weird. I know I've pinned them. You know I
pin them, so it shouldn't matter.

Speaker 2 (03:10:29):
And did you tell me that you also pinned your
discord on your YouTube? Is that what you said to me?

Speaker 1 (03:10:37):
Yeah, at the top of the life chats, and it
should be a pin to my web page. And if
you click on that, you should find on the page
discord and you can click on let and join the
channel there. Okay, here we go. Does it work?

Speaker 2 (03:10:56):
Now?

Speaker 1 (03:10:56):
Close all to the right Now they're unpinned it. Well,
that must that must been a recent update because normally
could do that even when they're pinned there. Yeah, somethingy
deleting without having to do it all manally. Alright, we'll
catch you maybe in a couple of months time, getting
and talk about those other two locations and anything new

(03:11:19):
that's happened. Maybe be a shorter live string next time.
Maybe that's all. It's good. I sick. There's a lot
of stuff you can talk about regardless though. You've got
lots of videos there and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (03:11:35):
Yes, absolutely, yeah, I got lots of stuff to talk about.

Speaker 1 (03:11:40):
Anyway, We'll let you get away to do your dinner.
And it's been a really pleasure. Heaven't you and stay
safe and stay stay, stay well, and I'll just drop
you off now much. Yeah, no problem, and.

Speaker 2 (03:11:58):
To your audience to thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (03:12:01):
It's been really great heaving you something different for what
I normally do. I just break it up occasionally with
special guests. So yeah, God bless and I'll see you go.
So there we go, guys, And now I've got to
figure out what you were talking about, Mike, but we

(03:12:24):
better wind down. Probably getting late for these guys for
in the morning or whatever. So it's Kate Stills, have
a good night. Okay, everybody's here still. It's like it's
all working all right. Yeah. Now I'll have a look

(03:12:45):
at that picture that you did and see what you
can see what was going on? Sorry about that. I
know there's an update for it anyway, maybe that will
fix what was going on. Let's see, this is like
the app for it, and it says it's going to

(03:13:06):
update here, and I didn't apply it this morning because
I had the guests to sort out. So wherever that
caused a problem there with the combat combo chat, I
don't know. Sorry about that, guys. I don't write the
software that particular software anyway. But I'm going to say

(03:13:29):
good night now, and I hope you enjoyed the show,
and we're having its definitely back and I'll probably go
on her show. That should be fun. That sounds like
she's busy. I know how busy hard it is to
write your own books and stuff, because I did actually
write one of my own books as well, until it

(03:13:51):
got priated and no one bought it anymore. So it
was on Herbal Cures. When I was sick. I was
doing research on Herbal's and I put the book together
and also talked about my story about my illness where
we thought it might have been stomach cancer that I had,
and all this sort of stuff. So I say good night,

(03:14:12):
and see you're getting next weekend hopefully. It sounds like
we're not having a funeral though it seems like we've
had a lot of good people die this year. But
no one wants to hold funerals because they want ten
thousand dollars or more. And the people that died purfectly

(03:14:36):
state that they don't want a funeral, they don't want
all the fuss. But it's very hard to let people
go if you don't have a funeral, right, because you
normally go and look at all the old photos and
a slide show and remember the good old days and
then you fare well. Right, it's strange not having a

(03:14:57):
funeral for people, So take care on the roads and whatnot. Yep, well,
I got my finger too fur over trying to touch type.
And I'll see you again all soon. Thanks for those
that put the time into comments. I know there's a

(03:15:18):
little bug here where it doesn't show the last lone
for some reason in the chat program. Yo, y'all, there
we go as Rumble dropped off, see Rumbles disappeared? Now,
Oh well, I know Rumbles see you now. I don't know.

(03:15:39):
It's kind of strange, it doesn't Maybe it's censoring comments.
It might be. Actually, we'll update that software for next time. Anyway,
Just do have a like if you like the show.
That really does help people to realize that they're missing out.
And something really good mm hmm. Something they may pre

(03:16:03):
empt and think it's a debunker that they're missing out
all the good stuff unfortunately. But yeah, I'll just close
that down and worn down. And of course I've changed
it here, an't I come on eyes wait for me,

(03:16:26):
and then good night. How's it going? It's still working.

(03:16:58):
I'll just sitting here missus on Discord Michael before we
got Colleen joined to see propping up? What's this here?
Updates to Discord? Okay, no it's not Colleen. We'll see

(03:17:25):
her pop on sometimes. I think. As long as she
clicks the website link, here we go. Here, we got here, robots,

(03:17:49):
what's that are you swearing? Oh oop? I forgot to
end crazy me. Let's do that now.

Speaker 6 (03:18:18):
M hm m

Speaker 1 (03:18:22):
Thank

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