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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome to There is a Method to the Madness.
My name is Rob Maxwell, and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal trainer.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sfitness programs, and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really works and mostimportantly why things work.
(00:21):
Hence the name, There is aMethod to the Madness.
Before I get to today's show, Iwant to thank Jonathan and Lynn
Gilden of the Gilden Group atRealty Pros.
They are committed to providingthe highest level of customer
service in home sales.
Why don't you give them a shoutand figure out what your home is
worth?
386-451-2412.
(00:46):
Good afternoon, everybody.
Rob here.
It is uh what is it?
It is Tuesday afternoon for me,October 21st, and um I'm logging
on to talk to everybody aboutsome fitness.
Um I haven't made as manypodcasts over the last couple
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weeks, and the reason is isbecause for some reason, and I'm
certainly not complaining, thenumbers have been off the charts
good.
So when they're really good andreally high, you don't
necessarily want to flood itwith more because what it means
is people are still downloadingthe podcast that you you've
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putting out there already.
So you don't really want to addanother one when they're still
on the rise up, you know, atleast how that's how we've
looked at it for a long time.
And for some reason, the monthlynumbers and the weekly numbers
have been really, really high,which is great.
I mean, I like to think we putout, I put out good content.
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I love talking about fitness.
Um, you know, it is one of my,if not my biggest, passions.
And uh, you know, maybe more andmore people are finding it and
then hitting the automaticdownload buttons so all of the
uh episodes get downloaded andso it makes the numbers look
really good.
But you know what?
I'm not gonna complain becausethat's a good thing.
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And this is the reason why Ihaven't made as many.
So I guess if you start seeingmaybe two or three a week or
even more, you start going,uh-oh, the podcasts must not be
getting a lot of numbers.
And that could be.
Or I could just be bored andwanting to make more podcasts.
So today I want to talk aboutsome things that we often leave
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out when it comes to the gym,when it comes to working out,
and that is the beauty of goingthere as a reset.
Do you ever feel like you justneed a reset?
Like life has just gotten out ofcontrol, life is not going the
way you want it to.
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Um, you got a lot of stress, yougot a lot of stuff going on, and
you just need to reset.
Now, I don't think going to thegym is going to recalibrate a
life out of control.
That's not what I'm implying,but it can give you that reset
in the day.
It can maybe get that daystarted off right where you
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don't need the reset.
But I really want to focus onthe reset, really.
So, you know, I've often said inmy new book, I talk about it
that going to the gym, having anaccountability partner like a
personal trainer, or if you metor are meeting your workout
buddy at the gym, that's kind ofthe same thing, you know, that's
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an accountability partner.
Like the actual physical act ofgoing there is sort of like the
old classic sitcom Friends.
Not friends.
Why did I say friends?
Friends is a great show, butthat irritates me because I had
the show in my head that I wasgoing to say, which is cheers,
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and I said, friends.
Friends is a great show, nooffense to any of them.
But cheers.
And you know that tagline withcheers that says where everybody
knows your name.
So to me, that's such a big partof going to the gym.
Now you might say going to yourrun or going out to meet your
friends to run or bike or swimor those things.
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But I mean, that that's great.
That could be the same thing.
But I'm really talking aboutthat and going to the gym.
I can remember when I was incollege and uh I was either at
my community college at the timeor I was in my first couple
years at UCF.
You know, I've I've made thisnot a hidden secret about me in
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the past.
I like to talk about it becauseI think it's important that we
talk about things, but I dranktoo much.
I drank way too much.
And I had have, I should say, alot of alcoholism in my family.
So that probably wasn't the bestof ideas.
So I drank and I was kind of auh binge drinker.
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Like it was never like a delidrinker.
I was that guy in college thatyou could um basically say is
Dr.
Jekyll or Mr.
Hyde, you know, that the oldsaying that um and I was.
It was funny.
Well, not really, but it it was,it was, it fit that description
so well.
And don't worry, I'm not gonnago on a really long diatribe
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about this.
I'm just trying to lay thefoundation for why the gym was
such a healing and a great resetfor me.
But um, you know, I could be,you know, Mr.
Studious, and um, I made reallygood grades in college because I
tried really hard.
And uh so I was an A student,and uh, but like I could go out
at night and I could be like nota good camper, like just not
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very well behaved at all.
And uh, you know, drinking wasnot good for me.
It ended up uh causing me someproblems in my very early life,
and I had to give it up.
I had to put the plug in thejug, so to say, and I was 27
years old when I did, and I'vebeen grateful ever since that I
found a new way of life.
Um, so I'll leave that part ofthe story at that.
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But let me say that during thosetimes, and of course, after
those times, it hasn't changed,but during those times when
there was something about goingto the gym that was so healing
and cleansing for me.
I mean, maybe because it was oris you literally are working on
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your physical fitness.
You are going to make yourselfbetter, you are sweating, you
are getting your heart rate up,you're doing all these things.
Like it literally is a cleansein a way.
And we know that so many peopledo cleanses, right?
They talk about the the uh thepurification of cleansing.
Well, it it is.
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I mean, emotionally, you'regetting like a lot of stuff out,
right?
I think anyway, if you're goingto the gym and working pretty
hard, you know, it brings stuffup to the emotional side, you
kind of work it out and then youkeep moving.
But also you sweat, and sweatingis so healing.
And I know some people don'tlike to sweat.
I don't get that.
Like, I love to sweat.
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There's something so purifyingabout sweating to me.
And uh, and also like thesymbolic portion of sweating,
too.
I mean, it's literal and it'salso symbolic, I believe.
So in those days when I wasn'texactly doing what I should do
the night before, which is whatevery good athletic,
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in-the-fitness college studentshould be doing, is, you know,
eat a healthy dinner, study, anduh, you know, go to bed early or
whatever, you know, do somethingharmless.
Well, if I didn't choose thatroute and I went out and drank
way too much, which I did onmany occasions during my
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collegiate uh journey, you know,going to the gym the next day
just seemed to reset me.
And I can remember when I'm Ihad to have been at a community
college at this point because itwas at a gym in New Smyrna.
And uh, you know, when I wasover at UCF in Orlando, of
course I was in Orlando, so Iwouldn't have been working out
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over down in New Smyrna.
So it was at New Smyrna.
An old friend of mine from highschool was working out, and I
think he had also had hisrun-ins with uh, you know,
partying a little too much whenhe went to school.
And uh I can remember him, I Idon't I don't want to say he
smelled it because, you know, Idon't think that was the case,
but it was, you know, I don'tknow, maybe we ran into each
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other the night before orsomething, but I can remember
him just saying something like,Man, you know, it really is good
to get back in and you know getyourself right, you know.
And I'm like, yeah, like he gotit.
And I and I don't reallyremember what precipitated that
conversation other than the factwe had it, and it really stood
out to me, obviously, becausethis is like what 40 years ago,
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maybe that I can remember thisstory.
40, yeah, probably about 40years, geez.
So anyway, just it was so niceto be able to go in, break a
sweat, kind of like geteverything back to where it
belongs, you know, like you runinto your friends there that are
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the healthy people you know.
And I still remember some ofthose people to this day very
well, not just the friend I wasjust recalling, because actually
I never saw him that much at thegym.
That was a rarity he was there.
But many people, the guy at thefront desk named Scott, always
saying hello to Scott, you know,talking about the scores with
him from Monday night footballor whatever, um, you know, then
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seeing people I saw on a regularbasis and chatting with them a
little bit, and then going aboutmy workout.
And if I had a workout partnerat the time, which I always
seemed to, but I mean thatparticular day, you know, just
getting on with the workout.
And it was just like aboutmidway through, I would really
start feeling like myself again.
You know, you start to sweat outall the impurities, the mood
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lifts because you're raising theendorphins and uh all the good
hormones and all that, theserotonin's getting higher, like
all that good stuff's happening.
So the mood is lifted.
Psychologically, you feel betterbecause you're you you know
you're doing a reset.
And to me, it's just one of thebest ways I've ever known to
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combat negative behavior.
Um, I mean, I just I mean, wecan view things all we want, and
I'm not trying to shame anybodythat has a couple glasses of
wine at dinner.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
Like, only you can view what yousee as negative behavior as far
as being consequential to yourparticular life and is it taking
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you in the right direction or orthe wrong direction?
So, like to me, working out hasalways been my reset better than
anything.
And uh, you know, philosophersthroughout the course of time
have been saying it forever.
Like, you know, they they usewalking oftentimes as an
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analogy, but you know, theycould literally mean walking,
but just moving, getting out andexercise.
But but the sayings are like,there's no problems that can't
be walked out, there's noproblems that can't be worked
out while you walk.
I mean, it's been one of the bigphilosophical quotes, like out
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of all the quotes, so manypeople, Nietzsche, all the great
Socrates, bring quotes back towalking and the beauty of
physical movement to get youreset.
I think I've never been a bigyoga practitioner.
I believe in it, like, and Iknow people that do it, that
love it.
I've just never really done it awhole lot.
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I mean, I've gone to a few yogaclasses, but I think in a way
that's why it's so popular, too,because yogis talk about the
beauty of yoga bringing themkind of back when they've kind
of drifted out a little bit, youknow, kind of like re-centering
everything.
So to me, working out has alwaysbeen that great reset.
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And I think there's more to itthan sweating, than getting the
endorphins up.
Like I think there's a hugepsychological component to it
too, like seeing people, youknow.
The the uh a couple months ago,I was down on the Edgewater
Trail, and uh buddy of mine fromthe past comes riding up behind
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me on his bike and he catches upto me and he uh he surprised me
actually because I hadn't seenhim in a while, but it was nice
to see him.
And of course, I said hello, andwe chatted for a few minutes
side by side as we're bikingdown the trail.
And he said, Hey, I listened toyour podcast the other day.
And I said, Oh, which one?
He said, The one about AI.
And I go, Oh, oh, okay, yeah.
And this guy's into bikes, likehe uh works on bikes and he um
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he has a bike store.
And he was saying, you know, Itotally agree with you that
people need people.
Like we need people.
We we we can't do all this byourselves, like we need people,
we are very, very socialanimals, and humanistic
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psychologists have pretty muchproven that.
You know, there's introverts andthere's extroverts, so there's
levels to how much we needpeople, but we need people.
And he made a funny joke, and Ithink maybe I said it in the
podcast and he just repeated it.
But uh anyway, I don't remember.
So let me just give him credit.
He said, um, it's kind of funny.
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He goes, you know, when that AI,you know, comes back at you,
whether it be voice, text, or inwritten form, and it says, That
a boy, Rob, you crushed ittoday.
You know, it just doesn't havethe same feel, does it?
And if any of you have ever usedChat GBT or any of those others,
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meta AI or Groke, I think it'scalled from X Twitter.
I mean, if you've used thosethings, which I do, like I think
AI has some really goodpossibilities to help us.
Like as far as finding quickstatistics, to me, it's great.
As far as looking up how to fixsomething, to me, it's great.
And it's gonna do all thosethings.
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So I'm by no means knocking AI.
I think it's great.
It can't replace, though, thepersonal element.
It can't replace the peopleelement.
When ChatGBT says, and I ask,I'll ask questions about um, you
know, pull me up a philosophicalquote on this so I can use it in
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the email or something likethat.
It'll say something like, Way togreat insight, Rob.
Way to really think about yourday today, you know, something
like that, because you know,I've signed up for the account,
so it knows my name and AIstores all your background and
stuff, which I'm not paranoidabout.
I could care less.
It actually makes it easierbecause it's so intelligent, it
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picks up on like what I'mtalking about before I even
fully asked ask the questionsometimes.
But that's neither here northere.
But the point is when it uses myname so eloquently and when it
tells me I do a great job, thatjust doesn't cut it, right?
I don't get that warm, fuzzyfeeling inside that says, oh
man, ChatGBT loves me, you know.
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I mean, do we do any of us?
I mean, I wonder if it evenmoves the needle at all.
I mean, it it's not bad that itdoes it, of course.
I mean, it's polite, but does itreally move the needle?
And I think we know it does not,right?
And you can crush a set.
Like there are there are AImodels where you can pull up
workouts and it'll tell you whatto do and how much load, and you
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know, all that's fine.
Like, I don't mind any of that.
Like I see that as some of theadvertisement going on and it,
you know, look, that's fine.
I I don't think it can everreplace personal training.
Like to me, I'm not worriedabout that whatsoever.
Um, I think it could be a goodsupplement for people that don't
necessarily like need thathumanistic approach so much, and
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maybe they just need somethingto do when they go to the gym
that day.
So I don't, I don't think itever is going to replace the
human element at all, not to thelevel that maybe some people
fear.
But, you know, it like I said,it does have its points, but
it's never going to be able todo that.
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So when we go to the gym, youknow, and we see the people that
we like to see, there is acertain buzz that you get when
somebody that you know, or maybedoesn't know, but sees you there
a lot, tells you you did a goodjob.
Like it feels good.
And and we need that.
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Like we are social beings.
And when we go in and we've beenkicked around a little bit by
whatever is going on in life.
Like, I just think I know somany people that when things
start to get a little bitoverwhelming for them, like they
kind of dig back in with thephysical, you know?
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And that's okay.
Like some people are like, well,they should also be dealing with
this or that.
And it's like, okay, that'sfine.
It's easy to sit back and judgeand make those estimations when
you don't really know what'sgoing on with somebody.
But there's nothing wrong withsomebody trying to take control
of the area that they have themost control over.
And typically that is thephysical portion of ourselves,
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right?
So I'm talking about wellness,the short version, body, mind,
and spirit.
It's a lot easier to say, well,I need to kind of like work on
this physically because it canbe extremely tangible.
And it happens so often whensomebody, you know, things
aren't going well with whateverarea in their life, they're
like, all of a sudden you seethis recommitment back to
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fitness.
And I just think that it is agreat way to reset.
And even if it's not a majorreset every day, you know, just
going to the gym.
I mean, you know, it's funny,like that the cheers jingle, you
know, where everybody knows yourname.
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Like it is so true.
Like, you know, I've been doingthis for over 31 years, and I
get to know my clients really,really well.
And a lot of the times, most ofthe times, my clients stick
around for really, really a longtime.
We're talking decades.
You know, I've had a client forover 25 years before, multiple
clients for over 25 years.
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So during that time of themworking out, I mean, naturally
they work out around otherpeople, you know, either with
another trainer or whatever, butlike they get to know the other
people in the gym too.
Now, you know, we'resemi-private, so it's not like
people are all over people.
It's not that kind of a gym oranything, but you do get to know
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the people around and you makethose friendly conversations.
Like people who meet aparticular client here that may
never known that client in thepast, they form a kind of a
friendship.
So the, you know, witheverything going on right now in
our country, and man, I'mlooking at, I shouldn't, I mean,
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you talk about bad for yourpsyche, but watch the news.
And just last night, I think itwas last night or maybe the
night before that, but there wasthis uh, you know, guy that was
apprehended in the Atlantaairport with um, you know, I
guess he was suspected of goingto mass shoot a bunch of people
because he had a gun and he hada motive, I guess, and all this
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kind of stuff.
And and thankfully they wereable to stop him.
But I mean, this seems to begoing on on a daily basis.
And then you're reading andhearing of all these other
mental health crises that aregoing on in our country right
now.
A lot of people kind of pushsome of the blame to COVID and
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how people were trapped insideand it kind of messed with
people's heads a little bit, andpeople are still reeling from
that, you know, or maybe there'sthe COVID class, you know, that
era.
My daughter is one of them thatdidn't get to go to high school
their last two years.
And so maybe that set with themweird, but um, there has
definitely been an uptick ofmental health issues in this
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country.
And one of the ways I believe wecan help with that, naturally,
you need professional help ifyou need professional help.
You know, your your doctor,your, your counselor, your
psychologist, whatever, yourpsychiatrist, of course.
But also having that place to goand work out and kind of like
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just get moving on your problem.
Like it literally can be ameditation.
And I know like I've talked somuch about that before about
mind to muscle, but like eventhat, like when you are
contemplating something, whenyou've got stuff on your mind,
if you can just go into the gymand you can like do sets and
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kind of take that problem andput it into the set and you
know, really focus about yourfocus on your movements that
you're doing, focus on yourmuscles.
You know, you come out of theworkout feeling so much better.
I mean, there's a there's a guyI used to know, and he was in
the uh I I believe he is passedon.
I don't think he's aroundanymore, but I know he was a big
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12-step guy.
And uh, you know, he used toalways say, if you can't move
your mind, move your muscles.
And this was no bodybuilder guy.
This was no like fitness guy atall.
And I don't think he meant, youknow, go use the Nautilus
machines or or go run on thetreadmill, not based on me
knowing this guy, but he didmean, you know, go move, go do
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some physical work.
I mean, of course, working outcan do that, can be that, but he
meant you just got to get outand move because sitting around
thinking about what is going onwith you is never going to help.
But going into the gym andworking it out, working through
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it, will always be beneficial.
It probably will not solve theproblem, but I guarantee you
it'll make the problem feel alot lighter when you're done.
And you do that enough days in arow, and then in a few days,
maybe a few weeks, maybe acouple months, but the problem
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is now gone.
And what you did is you kind ofliterally, not figuratively, but
literally worked through it.
All right.
So physical fitness canabsolutely be the great reset
that I think we all need.
If you're having like a bad dayand you've already worked out,
even, you know, like somethinghappens at work that you're not
exactly thrilled with.
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And we have a lot of people thathave corporate jobs and they
work out before work.
And, you know, work happens.
I mean, stress happens, whetheryou be a teacher or whatever,
like stress happens.
That doesn't mean you can't gohome and go for another walk or
even a 10-minute job.
Like you don't have to killyourself, or go into your gym or
go into your living room and doa few push-ups.
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Like, you like it, don't feellike this has to be something
that you should only do on yourworkout days.
Like, literally, a physicalreset, a couple sets of this, a
couple sets of that, will doyour mind so much good.
You know, I do it, I don't wantto say all the time because, you
know, I couldn't eat enough todo that, but I do it often
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throughout the day.
If um I'm feeling a little antsyor whatever, I'll I'll get up
from the desk.
If I'm sitting and I'll go overand I'll start doing a few
pull-ups, I'll do some curls,I'll do something, I'll do
push-ups, I'll do usually thingsI like.
And uh it gives you that littlemini pump.
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Welcome to There is a Method to the Madness.
My name is Rob Maxwell, and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal trainer.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sfitness programs, and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really works and mostimportantly why things work.
(00:21):
Hence the name, There is aMethod to the Madness.
Before I get to today's show, Iwant to thank Jonathan and Lynn
Gilden of the Gilden Group atRealty Pros.
They are committed to providingthe highest level of customer
service in home sales.
Why don't you give them a shoutand figure out what your home is
worth?
386-451-2412.
(00:46):
Good afternoon, everybody.
Rob here.
It is uh what is it?
It is Tuesday afternoon for me,October 21st, and um I'm logging
on to talk to everybody aboutsome fitness.
Um I haven't made as manypodcasts over the last couple
(01:08):
weeks, and the reason is isbecause for some reason, and I'm
certainly not complaining, thenumbers have been off the charts
good.
So when they're really good andreally high, you don't
necessarily want to flood itwith more because what it means
is people are still downloadingthe podcast that you you've
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putting out there already.
So you don't really want to addanother one when they're still
on the rise up, you know, atleast how that's how we've
looked at it for a long time.
And for some reason, the monthlynumbers and the weekly numbers
have been really, really high,which is great.
I mean, I like to think we putout, I put out good content.
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I love talking about fitness.
Um, you know, it is one of my,if not my biggest, passions.
And uh, you know, maybe more andmore people are finding it and
then hitting the automaticdownload buttons so all of the
uh episodes get downloaded andso it makes the numbers look
really good.
But you know what?
I'm not gonna complain becausethat's a good thing.
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And this is the reason why Ihaven't made as many.
So I guess if you start seeingmaybe two or three a week or
even more, you start going,uh-oh, the podcasts must not be
getting a lot of numbers.
And that could be.
Or I could just be bored andwanting to make more podcasts.
So today I want to talk aboutsome things that we often leave
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out when it comes to the gym,when it comes to working out,
and that is the beauty of goingthere as a reset.
Do you ever feel like you justneed a reset?
Like life has just gotten out ofcontrol, life is not going the
way you want it to.
(03:03):
Um, you got a lot of stress, yougot a lot of stuff going on, and
you just need to reset.
Now, I don't think going to thegym is going to recalibrate a
life out of control.
That's not what I'm implying,but it can give you that reset
in the day.
It can maybe get that daystarted off right where you
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don't need the reset.
But I really want to focus onthe reset, really.
So, you know, I've often said inmy new book, I talk about it
that going to the gym, having anaccountability partner like a
personal trainer, or if you metor are meeting your workout
buddy at the gym, that's kind ofthe same thing, you know, that's
(03:48):
an accountability partner.
Like the actual physical act ofgoing there is sort of like the
old classic sitcom Friends.
Not friends.
Why did I say friends?
Friends is a great show, butthat irritates me because I had
the show in my head that I wasgoing to say, which is cheers,
(04:09):
and I said, friends.
Friends is a great show, nooffense to any of them.
But cheers.
And you know that tagline withcheers that says where everybody
knows your name.
So to me, that's such a big partof going to the gym.
Now you might say going to yourrun or going out to meet your
friends to run or bike or swimor those things.
(04:30):
But I mean, that that's great.
That could be the same thing.
But I'm really talking aboutthat and going to the gym.
I can remember when I was incollege and uh I was either at
my community college at the timeor I was in my first couple
years at UCF.
You know, I've I've made thisnot a hidden secret about me in
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the past.
I like to talk about it becauseI think it's important that we
talk about things, but I dranktoo much.
I drank way too much.
And I had have, I should say, alot of alcoholism in my family.
So that probably wasn't the bestof ideas.
So I drank and I was kind of auh binge drinker.
(05:14):
Like it was never like a delidrinker.
I was that guy in college thatyou could um basically say is
Dr.
Jekyll or Mr.
Hyde, you know, that the oldsaying that um and I was.
It was funny.
Well, not really, but it it was,it was, it fit that description
so well.
And don't worry, I'm not gonnago on a really long diatribe
(05:35):
about this.
I'm just trying to lay thefoundation for why the gym was
such a healing and a great resetfor me.
But um, you know, I could be,you know, Mr.
Studious, and um, I made reallygood grades in college because I
tried really hard.
And uh so I was an A student,and uh, but like I could go out
at night and I could be like nota good camper, like just not
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very well behaved at all.
And uh, you know, drinking wasnot good for me.
It ended up uh causing me someproblems in my very early life,
and I had to give it up.
I had to put the plug in thejug, so to say, and I was 27
years old when I did, and I'vebeen grateful ever since that I
found a new way of life.
Um, so I'll leave that part ofthe story at that.
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But let me say that during thosetimes, and of course, after
those times, it hasn't changed,but during those times when
there was something about goingto the gym that was so healing
and cleansing for me.
I mean, maybe because it was oris you literally are working on
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your physical fitness.
You are going to make yourselfbetter, you are sweating, you
are getting your heart rate up,you're doing all these things.
Like it literally is a cleansein a way.
And we know that so many peopledo cleanses, right?
They talk about the the uh thepurification of cleansing.
Well, it it is.
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I mean, emotionally, you'regetting like a lot of stuff out,
right?
I think anyway, if you're goingto the gym and working pretty
hard, you know, it brings stuffup to the emotional side, you
kind of work it out and then youkeep moving.
But also you sweat, and sweatingis so healing.
And I know some people don'tlike to sweat.
I don't get that.
Like, I love to sweat.
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There's something so purifyingabout sweating to me.
And uh, and also like thesymbolic portion of sweating,
too.
I mean, it's literal and it'salso symbolic, I believe.
So in those days when I wasn'texactly doing what I should do
the night before, which is whatevery good athletic,
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in-the-fitness college studentshould be doing, is, you know,
eat a healthy dinner, study, anduh, you know, go to bed early or
whatever, you know, do somethingharmless.
Well, if I didn't choose thatroute and I went out and drank
way too much, which I did onmany occasions during my
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collegiate uh journey, you know,going to the gym the next day
just seemed to reset me.
And I can remember when I'm Ihad to have been at a community
college at this point because itwas at a gym in New Smyrna.
And uh, you know, when I wasover at UCF in Orlando, of
course I was in Orlando, so Iwouldn't have been working out
(08:25):
over down in New Smyrna.
So it was at New Smyrna.
An old friend of mine from highschool was working out, and I
think he had also had hisrun-ins with uh, you know,
partying a little too much whenhe went to school.
And uh I can remember him, I Idon't I don't want to say he
smelled it because, you know, Idon't think that was the case,
but it was, you know, I don'tknow, maybe we ran into each
(08:47):
other the night before orsomething, but I can remember
him just saying something like,Man, you know, it really is good
to get back in and you know getyourself right, you know.
And I'm like, yeah, like he gotit.
And I and I don't reallyremember what precipitated that
conversation other than the factwe had it, and it really stood
out to me, obviously, becausethis is like what 40 years ago,
(09:08):
maybe that I can remember thisstory.
40, yeah, probably about 40years, geez.
So anyway, just it was so niceto be able to go in, break a
sweat, kind of like geteverything back to where it
belongs, you know, like you runinto your friends there that are
(09:30):
the healthy people you know.
And I still remember some ofthose people to this day very
well, not just the friend I wasjust recalling, because actually
I never saw him that much at thegym.
That was a rarity he was there.
But many people, the guy at thefront desk named Scott, always
saying hello to Scott, you know,talking about the scores with
him from Monday night footballor whatever, um, you know, then
(09:54):
seeing people I saw on a regularbasis and chatting with them a
little bit, and then going aboutmy workout.
And if I had a workout partnerat the time, which I always
seemed to, but I mean thatparticular day, you know, just
getting on with the workout.
And it was just like aboutmidway through, I would really
start feeling like myself again.
You know, you start to sweat outall the impurities, the mood
(10:16):
lifts because you're raising theendorphins and uh all the good
hormones and all that, theserotonin's getting higher, like
all that good stuff's happening.
So the mood is lifted.
Psychologically, you feel betterbecause you're you you know
you're doing a reset.
And to me, it's just one of thebest ways I've ever known to
(10:37):
combat negative behavior.
Um, I mean, I just I mean, wecan view things all we want, and
I'm not trying to shame anybodythat has a couple glasses of
wine at dinner.
That's not what I'm talkingabout.
Like, only you can view what yousee as negative behavior as far
as being consequential to yourparticular life and is it taking
(10:59):
you in the right direction or orthe wrong direction?
So, like to me, working out hasalways been my reset better than
anything.
And uh, you know, philosophersthroughout the course of time
have been saying it forever.
Like, you know, they they usewalking oftentimes as an
(11:19):
analogy, but you know, theycould literally mean walking,
but just moving, getting out andexercise.
But but the sayings are like,there's no problems that can't
be walked out, there's noproblems that can't be worked
out while you walk.
I mean, it's been one of the bigphilosophical quotes, like out
(11:40):
of all the quotes, so manypeople, Nietzsche, all the great
Socrates, bring quotes back towalking and the beauty of
physical movement to get youreset.
I think I've never been a bigyoga practitioner.
I believe in it, like, and Iknow people that do it, that
love it.
I've just never really done it awhole lot.
(12:01):
I mean, I've gone to a few yogaclasses, but I think in a way
that's why it's so popular, too,because yogis talk about the
beauty of yoga bringing themkind of back when they've kind
of drifted out a little bit, youknow, kind of like re-centering
everything.
So to me, working out has alwaysbeen that great reset.
(12:23):
And I think there's more to itthan sweating, than getting the
endorphins up.
Like I think there's a hugepsychological component to it
too, like seeing people, youknow.
The the uh a couple months ago,I was down on the Edgewater
Trail, and uh buddy of mine fromthe past comes riding up behind
(12:45):
me on his bike and he catches upto me and he uh he surprised me
actually because I hadn't seenhim in a while, but it was nice
to see him.
And of course, I said hello, andwe chatted for a few minutes
side by side as we're bikingdown the trail.
And he said, Hey, I listened toyour podcast the other day.
And I said, Oh, which one?
He said, The one about AI.
And I go, Oh, oh, okay, yeah.
And this guy's into bikes, likehe uh works on bikes and he um
(13:08):
he has a bike store.
And he was saying, you know, Itotally agree with you that
people need people.
Like we need people.
We we we can't do all this byourselves, like we need people,
we are very, very socialanimals, and humanistic
(13:29):
psychologists have pretty muchproven that.
You know, there's introverts andthere's extroverts, so there's
levels to how much we needpeople, but we need people.
And he made a funny joke, and Ithink maybe I said it in the
podcast and he just repeated it.
But uh anyway, I don't remember.
So let me just give him credit.
He said, um, it's kind of funny.
(13:51):
He goes, you know, when that AI,you know, comes back at you,
whether it be voice, text, or inwritten form, and it says, That
a boy, Rob, you crushed ittoday.
You know, it just doesn't havethe same feel, does it?
And if any of you have ever usedChat GBT or any of those others,
(14:13):
meta AI or Groke, I think it'scalled from X Twitter.
I mean, if you've used thosethings, which I do, like I think
AI has some really goodpossibilities to help us.
Like as far as finding quickstatistics, to me, it's great.
As far as looking up how to fixsomething, to me, it's great.
And it's gonna do all thosethings.
(14:34):
So I'm by no means knocking AI.
I think it's great.
It can't replace, though, thepersonal element.
It can't replace the peopleelement.
When ChatGBT says, and I ask,I'll ask questions about um, you
know, pull me up a philosophicalquote on this so I can use it in
(14:55):
the email or something likethat.
It'll say something like, Way togreat insight, Rob.
Way to really think about yourday today, you know, something
like that, because you know,I've signed up for the account,
so it knows my name and AIstores all your background and
stuff, which I'm not paranoidabout.
I could care less.
It actually makes it easierbecause it's so intelligent, it
(15:17):
picks up on like what I'mtalking about before I even
fully asked ask the questionsometimes.
But that's neither here northere.
But the point is when it uses myname so eloquently and when it
tells me I do a great job, thatjust doesn't cut it, right?
I don't get that warm, fuzzyfeeling inside that says, oh
man, ChatGBT loves me, you know.
(15:37):
I mean, do we do any of us?
I mean, I wonder if it evenmoves the needle at all.
I mean, it it's not bad that itdoes it, of course.
I mean, it's polite, but does itreally move the needle?
And I think we know it does not,right?
And you can crush a set.
Like there are there are AImodels where you can pull up
workouts and it'll tell you whatto do and how much load, and you
(15:58):
know, all that's fine.
Like, I don't mind any of that.
Like I see that as some of theadvertisement going on and it,
you know, look, that's fine.
I I don't think it can everreplace personal training.
Like to me, I'm not worriedabout that whatsoever.
Um, I think it could be a goodsupplement for people that don't
necessarily like need thathumanistic approach so much, and
(16:21):
maybe they just need somethingto do when they go to the gym
that day.
So I don't, I don't think itever is going to replace the
human element at all, not to thelevel that maybe some people
fear.
But, you know, it like I said,it does have its points, but
it's never going to be able todo that.
(16:41):
So when we go to the gym, youknow, and we see the people that
we like to see, there is acertain buzz that you get when
somebody that you know, or maybedoesn't know, but sees you there
a lot, tells you you did a goodjob.
Like it feels good.
And and we need that.
(17:02):
Like we are social beings.
And when we go in and we've beenkicked around a little bit by
whatever is going on in life.
Like, I just think I know somany people that when things
start to get a little bitoverwhelming for them, like they
kind of dig back in with thephysical, you know?
(17:23):
And that's okay.
Like some people are like, well,they should also be dealing with
this or that.
And it's like, okay, that'sfine.
It's easy to sit back and judgeand make those estimations when
you don't really know what'sgoing on with somebody.
But there's nothing wrong withsomebody trying to take control
of the area that they have themost control over.
And typically that is thephysical portion of ourselves,
(17:44):
right?
So I'm talking about wellness,the short version, body, mind,
and spirit.
It's a lot easier to say, well,I need to kind of like work on
this physically because it canbe extremely tangible.
And it happens so often whensomebody, you know, things
aren't going well with whateverarea in their life, they're
like, all of a sudden you seethis recommitment back to
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fitness.
And I just think that it is agreat way to reset.
And even if it's not a majorreset every day, you know, just
going to the gym.
I mean, you know, it's funny,like that the cheers jingle, you
know, where everybody knows yourname.
(18:28):
Like it is so true.
Like, you know, I've been doingthis for over 31 years, and I
get to know my clients really,really well.
And a lot of the times, most ofthe times, my clients stick
around for really, really a longtime.
We're talking decades.
You know, I've had a client forover 25 years before, multiple
clients for over 25 years.
(18:49):
So during that time of themworking out, I mean, naturally
they work out around otherpeople, you know, either with
another trainer or whatever, butlike they get to know the other
people in the gym too.
Now, you know, we'resemi-private, so it's not like
people are all over people.
It's not that kind of a gym oranything, but you do get to know
(19:10):
the people around and you makethose friendly conversations.
Like people who meet aparticular client here that may
never known that client in thepast, they form a kind of a
friendship.
So the, you know, witheverything going on right now in
our country, and man, I'mlooking at, I shouldn't, I mean,
(19:30):
you talk about bad for yourpsyche, but watch the news.
And just last night, I think itwas last night or maybe the
night before that, but there wasthis uh, you know, guy that was
apprehended in the Atlantaairport with um, you know, I
guess he was suspected of goingto mass shoot a bunch of people
because he had a gun and he hada motive, I guess, and all this
(19:51):
kind of stuff.
And and thankfully they wereable to stop him.
But I mean, this seems to begoing on on a daily basis.
And then you're reading andhearing of all these other
mental health crises that aregoing on in our country right
now.
A lot of people kind of pushsome of the blame to COVID and
(20:12):
how people were trapped insideand it kind of messed with
people's heads a little bit, andpeople are still reeling from
that, you know, or maybe there'sthe COVID class, you know, that
era.
My daughter is one of them thatdidn't get to go to high school
their last two years.
And so maybe that set with themweird, but um, there has
definitely been an uptick ofmental health issues in this
(20:35):
country.
And one of the ways I believe wecan help with that, naturally,
you need professional help ifyou need professional help.
You know, your your doctor,your, your counselor, your
psychologist, whatever, yourpsychiatrist, of course.
But also having that place to goand work out and kind of like
(20:56):
just get moving on your problem.
Like it literally can be ameditation.
And I know like I've talked somuch about that before about
mind to muscle, but like eventhat, like when you are
contemplating something, whenyou've got stuff on your mind,
if you can just go into the gymand you can like do sets and
(21:19):
kind of take that problem andput it into the set and you
know, really focus about yourfocus on your movements that
you're doing, focus on yourmuscles.
You know, you come out of theworkout feeling so much better.
I mean, there's a there's a guyI used to know, and he was in
the uh I I believe he is passedon.
I don't think he's aroundanymore, but I know he was a big
(21:41):
12-step guy.
And uh, you know, he used toalways say, if you can't move
your mind, move your muscles.
And this was no bodybuilder guy.
This was no like fitness guy atall.
And I don't think he meant, youknow, go use the Nautilus
machines or or go run on thetreadmill, not based on me
knowing this guy, but he didmean, you know, go move, go do
(22:05):
some physical work.
I mean, of course, working outcan do that, can be that, but he
meant you just got to get outand move because sitting around
thinking about what is going onwith you is never going to help.
But going into the gym andworking it out, working through
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it, will always be beneficial.
It probably will not solve theproblem, but I guarantee you
it'll make the problem feel alot lighter when you're done.
And you do that enough days in arow, and then in a few days,
maybe a few weeks, maybe acouple months, but the problem
(22:48):
is now gone.
And what you did is you kind ofliterally, not figuratively, but
literally worked through it.
All right.
So physical fitness canabsolutely be the great reset
that I think we all need.
If you're having like a bad dayand you've already worked out,
even, you know, like somethinghappens at work that you're not
exactly thrilled with.
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And we have a lot of people thathave corporate jobs and they
work out before work.
And, you know, work happens.
I mean, stress happens, whetheryou be a teacher or whatever,
like stress happens.
That doesn't mean you can't gohome and go for another walk or
even a 10-minute job.
Like you don't have to killyourself, or go into your gym or
go into your living room and doa few push-ups.
(23:30):
Like, you like it, don't feellike this has to be something
that you should only do on yourworkout days.
Like, literally, a physicalreset, a couple sets of this, a
couple sets of that, will doyour mind so much good.
You know, I do it, I don't wantto say all the time because, you
know, I couldn't eat enough todo that, but I do it often
(23:51):
throughout the day.
If um I'm feeling a little antsyor whatever, I'll I'll get up
from the desk.
If I'm sitting and I'll go overand I'll start doing a few
pull-ups, I'll do some curls,I'll do something, I'll do
push-ups, I'll do usually thingsI like.
And uh it gives you that littlemini pump.
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