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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome to There is a Method to the Madness.
My name is Rob Maxwell, and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal trainer.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sFitness Program, and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really worked and mostimportantly why things work.
Hence the name, there is amethod to the magnet.

(00:24):
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(00:46):
What's happening, everybody?
Rob here.
We're going to talk about somefitness as usual.
I'm going to talk a little bittoday about one of the reasons
that is given for people notexercising to the amount that
they need to exercise.
In my new book, I start out bylisting all these reasons why

(01:11):
people don't exercise.
And I talk about like what thestatistics say about that.
For example, the first reasongiven is time.
And uh I've really dissectedthat.
But essentially, if we do whatwe need to do, that's only 1.8%
of the hours and time in ourweek.

(01:32):
So that's not a lot.
So I kind of debunk that and Italk about how if people
understood they don't have to doas much as they think that they
have to do, then they will do itmore.
And that's my whole goal.
I want more people exercising.
I mean, exercise absolutelychanged my life.

(01:52):
I think it changed the directionof my life.
When I started working out as alate teen, I mean, I got this
identity.
I was able to burn stress.
I was able to make myselfbetter.
I mean, trust me, I have not hada uh, you know, perfect time of
it.
I've gone through problems likeeverybody else.

(02:13):
But man, exercising, helping methrough different times, getting
through college, you know,really, really pushing hard in
college, wanting to make goodgrades.
Also, uh, you know, enjoying alittle bit too much of the extra
curricular activity.
That was a fun one to say uh onthe spot here in college, you

(02:35):
know.
So, like I said, I mean, ithelped with everything.
It always got me re-grounded.
And it's given me such atremendous life, a tremendous
career.
And uh I'm just passionate aboutit, as I think everybody
probably knows that knows me.
Like, I don't like missingworkouts.

(02:55):
I never see workouts as anobligation.
To me, it's something I really,really enjoy doing.
I mean, it's hard.
There's different exercises Idon't always enjoy.
There's different intensities Idon't always enjoy.
But man, I wouldn't miss it.
And I hate to miss it.

(03:16):
I've said before that I've hadfriends who kind of just don't
get it joke with me and saysomething like, you know, you're
on vacation.
Why do you feel the need toexercise?
And I'm like, it's not like it'sa bad thing to me.
Like, I don't ever view exerciseas punishment at all.

(03:39):
Like, I don't know.
Like, I'm the opposite of whatthey're saying.
I'm thinking, why do you look atit so negatively?
To me, I love checking out newplaces to exercise when I
travel.
I was just in uh a town outsideof Austin, Texas, where uh

(04:01):
Ellen's sister has a beautifulranch out there.
And uh man, it it was so pretty.
The property's pretty, you know.
And um, I was visiting withEllen, and uh, you know, every
morning we did something alittle bit different.
We went down the long, longdriveway, you know, the dirt

(04:22):
driveway, went out to the road,an old country road, and we did
some walking.
Sometimes we walked the dogs,sometimes we ran.
And then we went into their uhgarage area and they had a
little bit of free weights, sowe did some uh free weights in
there.
You know, nothing, nothingcrazy.
Just started the day with someexercise.

(04:42):
And, you know, it was fun.
We looked forward to it.
We finished up, we cooled down alittle bit, we made a you know,
a little shake to recover, gotcleaned up, start the day.
And let me tell you, I just loveto do that wherever I go.
It's it's not an obligation.
So these podcasts are supposedto be encouraging people to get

(05:06):
into exercise.
Like that's what I want to do.
So when I talk about the mythsof exercise, you know, the the
people that think they have todo so much or they're fooled by
these influencers who reallydon't have any credentials at
all, thinking that they have todo these crazy workouts or these
dangerous workouts.
It's like, no, man, it can be sosimple.

(05:31):
So I'm going to take the secondreason, and I'm being kind here.
I'm not calling them excusestoday, you know, but they kind
of are.
When people say I don't havetime, a couple great quotes, you
know, have said, well, it'sreally not about time, it's that
you don't have priorities.
I would agree, right?

(05:51):
But I'm not trying to shameanybody here.
I want to instead make this moreof an attraction thing versus a
have-to-do thing because I cantell you, it's altered my life.
It's altered so many of theclients that I've had's life.
And you know, this isn't justabout weight loss.
You know, everybody thinks it'sgotten a little bit better.

(06:13):
I had a good conversation withone of my clients yesterday
who's a long timer, uh, realinto it.
She's a fitness fanatic herselfloves it.
That doesn't mean that likeshe's obsessed.
It means that she's very healthywith it, actually.
And she's done a physiquecompetition.
I've trained her for that.
And she was telling me thatshe's excited to see that more

(06:35):
and more women are focusing ongetting stronger and not just
losing weight.
And I agree.
I see us trending in thatdirection with that as a
country, probably as a world.
Um, and that is a really, reallygood thing.
So exercise isn't just aboutweight loss.
But 20 years ago, you kind ofhad two types of exercisers.
You had your guys that wanted toget bigger, and you had your

(06:57):
ladies most of the time thatwanted to get smaller.
Like it came down to that.
Now we know that there's so manymore benefits.
In my book, as I put in thenewsletter the other day, I
listed like 30 differentbenefits of exercise.
Only one of them was about bodycomposition.
So 29 things are abouteverything else.
So there's so much to it.

(07:18):
And I just want people to reallyget into it.
Okay.
So, reason or excuse number twothat people give for not
exercising consistently enoughto get the benefits is how long
they have to travel to get tothe gym, or how far, I should

(07:38):
say.
Now, that one really caught meoff guard because I'm reading
this and I'm looking at thestatistics and I'm going, well,
number one, you don't have to goto a gym.
And number two, so what?
I mean, how far are you going togo to get a Starbucks coffee

(07:59):
when you travel?
I mean, I've been guilty of thatbefore.
I'm like, God, I want aStarbucks, a reliable, you know,
and I fall for it and pay likesix or seven dollars for a
stupid coffee.
You know, I mean, how far are wewilling to go for some of these
other things, but yet the gym istoo far?
And get this.
The responders to the poll saidthat they're willing to go 3.7

(08:25):
miles.
Anything more than that was toofar.
3.7 miles takes you less thanfive minutes to travel to your
gym, depending on where youlive.
I mean, maybe if you live in NewYork City, that's gonna take a
little bit longer, but you don'thave to go 3.7 miles to find a

(08:47):
gym in New York City, right?
So, anyway, that's what thestatistics say.
Isn't that crazy?
I mean, to me, that's justcrazy.
So let's take number one.
You don't have to go to a gym.
I mean, there's two things goingon right now.
One of them's bad and one ofthem's good.
So the bad thing is, yes,there's a lot of influencers out

(09:10):
there on Instagram and TikTokand everything else on Facebook,
and they're selling bogusprograms.
Like they're selling dangerous,expensive programs that make you
think you have to do all thesehigh-intensity things and all
this long duration things, andthey sell you these big
packages.
And even if you don't buy it,you're seeing this stuff left

(09:33):
and right, and you think, well,I don't have time for that, or I
don't have those tools, or Idon't know what the hell they're
doing.
And even if I saw a video onthis, I'm not really sure that
I'm gonna be able to do it.
So that's the bad thing.
But the good thing is there's alot more people out there with
the right certifications anddegrees helping you.

(09:55):
When I broke into this field 30years ago, I think I was the
only person around that had amaster's degree in exercise
physiology.
So that uniqueness really helpedbuild my business pretty quick.
But now there's a lot more.
There's a lot of students nowthat I've taught, that I put out
there, that are out there withdegrees and the proper

(10:16):
certification.
And there are four differentcertifications that are
accredited that are really hardto get.
They're not easy.
The ACSM CPT certified personaltraining uh certification that
both I have, Ellen Hyes, andAngelica have, that's got a
30-something percent pass rate.
That means, you know, 60 to 70%fail the first time.

(10:39):
So that's not easy.
That's a pretty hard test.
So it's, you know, if if you'redoing that stuff, you really are
getting credential.
There's other things you have todo, sure, but we are turning the
corner on that.
So that's the good news.
So you can find the rightprogramming.
It is out there.
You just have to do the rightkind of searches, but you don't

(11:02):
have to necessarily go to a gym.
Look, I think it's good to go.
I've talked before about socialfacilitation.
And that means if you gosomewhere where people are
around, you're more likely towork harder.
I mean, they found that you canhave a 40% increase in the
amount of repetitions you getwith just somebody watching you.
I mean, human beings are likethat.

(11:24):
You know, we just like to showpeople what we're doing, good or
bad, that's what we do.
You can make it for the good ifyou're doing the right thing.
So I do think there's a goodsocialization.
I also think that people arevery lonely.
I think after COVID, peoplestayed home, they quit going
places.
So I do think it's good to go toa gym, and I'll pick that up in

(11:45):
part two of this.
But for now, if you just can't,you don't have time, you know,
to leave and go somewhere else,whatever.
You work from home and you havea home gym, then you do that.
You can work out at home.
Like I said, when I was just onmy trip at the beautiful ranch

(12:06):
outside in Texas, there, I mean,outside of Austin and Texas, I
mean, we had a few kettlebellsand some dumbbells, and we had
our body weight, and that's whatwe used.
And we made it work just fine.
So you can get the resources tofigure out a few basic
exercises.
I mean, I don't want to gettechnical here, but the body has

(12:28):
essentially three main movementsand a couple more.
It needs to squat, it needs topull with the upper body, it
needs to push with the upperbody, and if we really want to
get fancy, it needs to lunge andit needs to hinge.
So basically, all the musclescan be worked with mostly those
three first movements Imentioned, and definitely all

(12:50):
five.
And you can do all that withyour body or light dumbbells.
So it can happen at home.
And naturally, you can walk fromhome, you can jog from home, you
can ride your bike, you can getan exercise bike.
So there's plenty of ways thatyou can exercise at home.
So I don't get that, you know,poll that that's why a lot of

(13:13):
people say they weren't goingbecause they had to travel too
far to the gym.
But you know, that kind ofexposes that myth.
Now, part two of it is is itreally that big of a deal?
I mean, I honestly believe ifeverybody really saw the
research on exercise, they wouldmake it more of a freaking

(13:37):
priority.
I mean, they just would.
You're not too busy, you're nottoo important, you need to take
care of yourself, you know.
It's the old famous saying aboutyou have to put on your own
oxygen mask before you can helpother people.
I mean, it fits right along withthat, but so many people think

(14:01):
they're so busy and so importantthat they can't make time to go
to the gym or to go exercise.
I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen,it is just a BS excuse.
You don't understand whatexercise does for you.
I mean, it is the number onething you can do for your

(14:23):
health.
It is the number one thing thatyou can actively or proactively
do for your health is toexercise on a regular basis.
You have control over it, youcan do it.
There's not a perfect way to doit.
There are good ways, there arebetter ways, there's not a
perfect way.

(14:43):
You just need to get out and doit.
I don't understand that you'retoo busy or too important you
think that you are.
I mean, that just a little bitrubs me the wrong way because I
don't know anybody that reallyfalls into that classification.
Years ago, I mean, God, this hasto be going back late 90s.

(15:07):
I had a gym at another location.
I was in with uh Dr.
Fulton.
I was renting a place from him.
He's the uh he's a greatorthopedic in my area.
He was the medical director forNautilus, and I rented uh one of
his Nautilus gyms, and I paidhim for using it.
Uh, and uh I had a client, andactually this client ended up

(15:27):
following me to the nextlocation and then the next.
So he kind of went with me whereI went.
He he passed.
Um, but anyway, his name is ReedHughes, and he was a uh kind of
a local legend, a localcelebrity.
He had uh um made a lot a lot ofmoney doing a lot of good
things, and then he became anenvironmentalist.

(15:49):
He ran for some differentpositions politically.
He was just very, very, veryimportant.
Um, and he never acted like hewas.
He never like pretended that hewas, even though he was.
I mean, uh, no offense to any ofmy clients that listen or
whatever, but you know, heprobably was the most connected,

(16:09):
wealthiest client I've ever had.
Um and I'm not saying that tobrag at all because like he was
the opposite of that.
Like he wore workout clothes,sweatpants.
I mean, almost every place hewent.
He drove an older car.
He never wore fancy clothes.
I mean, you would never knowwith this man.
And, you know, he he did so manygreat things for people.

(16:33):
He had an office on Beach Streethere in Daytona, and there was a
couple different people that hewould take once a week to go get
haircuts for them because theycouldn't afford to.
I mean, there's story afterstory of the money that he
poured into Serenity House, alocal rehab here, money that he
poured into scholarships forkids that couldn't afford
different private schools.

(16:53):
I mean, he was just a giving manand he did so much of this
anonymously.
And um, you know, I I knew Ifound out later all of the
things that he did.
So by no means am I saying thisto puff him up that way.
I puff him up because of hischaracter, not his money.
That's for sure.
Um, but anyway, yeah, I'llfinish with this story and I

(17:15):
hope it makes the point.
He one day was running a fewminutes late for his workout
when I was out at Dr.
Fulton's place.
And uh it wasn't like him.
He loved to work out.
He strength trained with me twotimes per week, every week, and
he ran on his own.
He actually set the record formost continuous Easter beach run

(17:36):
runs.
He ran that thing over 50 times,which is really, really cool
before he passed.
And um he shows up late, maybe10 minutes.
I was a little concerned andsurprised.
And uh, it was before cellphones, people, at least before
I had one, I believe.
So he comes rolling in, helooked a little disheveled, and
he always looked a littledisheveled, but he looked even

(17:58):
more disheveled.
He was like, I'm sorry, Rob.
I had to leave.
I had a meeting with thegovernor.
He was going on and on andwouldn't shut up.
And I told him, I said, I gottago.
And uh I looked at him, I said,What?
He, I gotta go.
I told my secretary, I said he,you know, gotta let him out.

(18:19):
He's just you know in there, youknow, I don't know, looking for
money, looking for something.
You know, he wanted my advice,da da da da.
And I just told him, I said,look, I've got my appointment
time, I gotta go.
So I got up and I left, and I'msorry I'm late.
True story, people.
So he left the governor, itdoesn't matter who it was at the
time, sitting in his office forhis secretary to show out.

(18:43):
And he got in his car and hecame to work out.
I mean, I hope I never forgetthat story because for everybody
that thinks they're like way tooimportant or busy to exercise,
here's a man that leaves thegovernor of the state of Florida
sitting in his office in BeachStreet and tells him he's got to
go, showing him his priorities.

(19:04):
This is my priority.
I've got a standing appointment,I've got a role.
And he felt bad he was 10minutes late.
And he gave me a priceless storyforever.
And, you know, he meant it.
So, you know, Reed lived a verylong life.
He lived a very long, healthylife.
And I know he would tell youit's from his dedication to

(19:25):
exercise, proper diet,maintaining a healthy weight his
whole life.
You know, he did not missexercising.
And, you know, he only had astop as his health took a
serious, sharp decline towardsthe end.
But he was able to go almostright up.
So whenever you think you're toobusy or you don't have the time,
I want you to remember thatstory.

(19:46):
You can do it anywhere, anytime.
It helps to have somebody likeme to keep you going.
It helps to go to the gym tohave other people get you going.
But worst case scenario, do itfrom home and make it happen.
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