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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to there is a Method to the Madness.
My name is Rob Maxwell and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal trainer.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sFitness Programs and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really works and, mostimportantly, why things work.

(00:21):
Hence the name.
There is a method to themadness.
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(00:46):
It is time for us to talk aboutsome fitness.
That's why we show up to thispodcast, me and you.
So today I'm going to talkabout the 2025 Max Fit Games.

(01:06):
I'll give you a little rundown,but you don't take time out of
your day.
Even if you're driving,whatever, you're still taking
time to listen.
So I'm sure everybody doesn'twant a rundown of who won and
that kind of thing.
I mean, the people that did itmaybe do, but other people don't
.
So I'm going to really explainwhy we do these things and how

(01:32):
we pick the exercises and whyit's important.
That way everybody gets thefitness message.
But first a little business sideof things.
So we quickly had to pivot fromour location.
We had the Holly Hill Park offof 11th Street, on that corner

(01:54):
there, 11th and Beach all set.
We did it there last year and Ibelieve the year before as well
, and we put in our permit likefour months ago, probably even
earlier actually.
So you would think that theywould have known when they took
the permit that they were goingto be redoing the entire park

(02:15):
that week.
But you know, that's one thing.
The biggest problem was we knewconstruction was going on for
the last month because you coulddrive by and see it.
So we called and they assuredus that it was no problem.
They were just replacing thesod and it was scheduled to be
reopened in plenty of timebefore that Saturday.

(02:38):
Well, the week of we saw thatit was still closed off and
closed.
We had a couple of clients tellus that it was closed and
they're concerned and we ofcourse were still concerned.
So we called them literally onthe Thursday before the Friday.
They told us it was closed andthey still said oh no, no,

(02:58):
everything's fine, it's thereopen on that Saturday morning,
all good, and Angelica, who hadbeen communicating with them,
got a text message not even aphone call text message stating
oh, the park isn't open on thatSaturday, literally the day
before.
I mean sometimes I'm amazed thatpeople have jobs.

(03:23):
I really I don't get it.
Like I just couldn't imaginebeing an entrepreneur for most
of my adult life, like what it'slike to just do something like
that, to be so irresponsible.
I mean, things happen, but theweek of you could have at least
given us some notice.
So they didn't, and you knowwhat?
It's kind of sad.
They didn't even apologize.

(03:43):
That's pretty weak.
They acted more like offendedthat we were annoyed.
So anyway we had a quick pivot.
Thankfully we have really goodvolunteers and helpers and
friends and employees.
So everybody started franticallysearching around literally on
that Friday.
I did not want to delay thegames because we had food

(04:06):
promised to us like from bigcorporations like Wawa and
7-Eleven and Dunkin' Donuts.
It's not like they can justchange everything, like their
scheduled deliveries.
So we knew we were getting allthat Saturday morning.
There's just no way we couldhave rescheduled.
So I mean there was a way butit wasn't going to be good.
So we decided upon a park downin New Smyrna, which we have run

(04:30):
down there before, and one ofour participants, the woman who
won the mile actually at ourevent, ms Kitty Masante,
actually was very helpful withthat.
She went out there on theFriday to make sure it was
looking all good.
She kind of measured out acourse, a down and back that we
thought would work really,really well.
So we just quickly pivoted andwe called everybody.

(04:53):
We knew that was coming andeverybody was volunteering and I
think it's a huge win when onlyone person who was
pre-registered didn't show upand you know what?
That's less than most yearswhen there is plenty of notice
on everything.
So I doubt that one person whodidn't show up was due to

(05:15):
location.
It's just things happensometimes.
So I was pretty impressed thateverybody was able to make it
happen and get there and I'mthankful for the participants.
I mean people weren't even late.
I mean I think that's prettyawesome.
So that's going to be our newplace.
I mean we ended up loving thepark.
It worked out good.
We're going to have our mileseries coming up starting in

(05:38):
September.
We're going to use that course.
Actually it was less crowded.
I mean the other place we paidfor and we typically don't have
privacy.
You know, I mean not that weneed a lot of privacy, I mean
shoot.
Well, you know, we usually endup giving a lot of the food away
to the people in the park.
So it's not that, it's justthat there was hardly anybody

(05:59):
there and they had the Frisbeegolf course there already.
So that worked out really goodfor our last event.
So, anyway, it was just ablessing in disguise.
Everything worked out reallyreally good and you know, I
think we had our best games todate.
I really really do.
You know, and now I'll seguethis into, you know, the fitness

(06:19):
side of things.
So I put on the games becauseI'm a big believer in all around
fitness.
You know there's too many likeextremes out there in the
fitness world.
You have people that are justknown to be like runners, and
then people that are known tomaybe be triathletes, and then

(06:40):
people that are maybe known tobe bodybuilders, or people that
are known to be, say,crossfitters, or people that are
known to surf to stay in shape.
I mean, all that is great.
Don't get me wrong.
I have done every one of thosethings except for CrossFit, but
I've done some CrossFitactivities.
It's just that fitness is allof those things, it's not just

(07:04):
one thing.
That fitness is all of thosethings, it's not just one thing.
And locally we have a ton of 5Ks, you know, five kilometer road
races.
They're everywhere everyweekend, basically in the fall,
winter, in the spring, andthat's great to an extent, but
it's we have to have more forpeople that want to do, say,

(07:26):
competitive events or events ofchallenging themselves to be
more fit.
If we just run, then we are notdoing all of the components of
physical fitness.
We're not doing any muscularstrength or muscular endurance
or any power or any mobilityreally.
So you know, I want a balancedevent.

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I want to at least talk aboutthe balanced event.
And if we have an event we cantalk about the importance of it
and it all kind of works out.
You know, it's kind of coolthat really the events are going
to be won.
If you're really going for themoney, they're going to be won
by somebody who has the mostbalanced fitness.

(08:10):
So every year I tweak it.
That's why I say this was thebest.
You know, we have done so manydifferent versions and I've
liked them all and there waspros and cons to each like even
this one, which I really dothink is our best, had some cons
.
I'm like well, there was toomuch of a difference between the

(08:34):
two groups.
We were really trying to pickthe numbers of squats and
numbers of burpees and number ofpush-ups based on what we feel
like we've seen in the past tobe the most fit and honestly,
it's typically a pretty wide,open age group as far as the
elite goes.
So we landed on 18 to 50 andthen the 50 to 69, there was

(09:01):
just a little, from what Iunderstand I agree with the
participants a little bit toomuch drop off, like they were
complaining, not complaining,but they said you know, I think
we could have done a lot more.
So you know, and I look at itand like that's true.
So next time we're going to gowith 10 year age groups and just
kind of like start with 18 to29 being, you know, I mean youth

(09:25):
, I mean that's going to be themost elite.
Typically it's not always likein our events because we get a
lot of like middle age to maybea little bit young adult in
there, but basically nationwidethat's supposed to be.
The most fit age group is 18 to29.
And then from there.

(09:46):
We will just back off a littlebit every age group as far as
numbers go.
But we love how we did thenumbers.
Everybody ran a mile, loved themile, bringing the mile series
going, because it's so importantto really focus on intensity
and to try to improve ourcardiorespiratory fitness.
You know, the PresidentialCouncil of Physical Fitness has

(10:08):
gotten into the news again andregardless how we feel
politically I mean that reallyshouldn't matter I do think
that's a good idea.
If we can really get theschools to implement it, that'll
be the key.
But I've always believed inthat being a good thing.
And you know we take a lot ofwhat we do from the military
stuff because, look, we've gotto be able to run if we can, to

(10:32):
be our most fit, we should beable to do calisthenics like
squats and pushups, mostimportantly, and some form of
core like that is the root offitness right there.
So we took some of the armystandards, or I should say
military standards.
We took some of thepresidential council physical

(10:53):
fitness standards and basicallymade an adult event out of it.
So we ran a mile.
Then the next event was theburpees.
But we did a version of burpeeswhich was basically an up and
down which works the core andworks the legs mostly.
Then they ran to the push-uparea and did different numbers

(11:15):
of push-ups depending on yourage group.
Then everybody ran to the squatarea and did different versions
or I shouldn't say different,but did different numbers of
squats based on the age groupand then from there they ran all
the way out to the frisbee binand grabbed the frisbee and
finished with some frisbee golf,just to kind of like show a

(11:37):
little bit of skill, someathleticism, whatever, just to
kind of make it fun as well.
But it was a great eventbecause we have cardio in there
with the, because we have cardioin there with the run.
We have cardio in there withthe run going from event to
event.
We had burpees in there, whichis some power because you have
to get up and down quickly.
That's the idea.

(11:58):
Down to the ground, up from theground quickly, that's the idea
.
So we have some mobility inthere and you have some core in
there.
Then we go to the push-up.
That is upper body strength,like I said, very critical.
You know, sadly a lot of peoplethat just run have almost zero
upper body strength and that'snot good, that's not physically

(12:19):
fit.
Heart might be good, but wehave to keep those muscles toned
as well.
And then from there the squatswas, of course, lower body
strength, and I can't state andsay it enough how I think the
squat is probably the mostimportant strength exercise that
we could ever really try tomaster.
It is just so critical.

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And you know, I want to talkabout how, like, we had a couple
clients that wanted to get inand did get in, and one of them
was sick, wasn't able toparticipate.
But what was really cool iswhen we brought this up to them,
either of them didn't thinkthat they could really do it.
And then one of them ended upwinning the women's 50 to 69 and

(13:04):
just started taking thetechniques and practicing them
on her own.
And that's what I love to see,like, I love to see people get
more fit.
Before my eyes, when she firstdid burpees, they were a
struggle.
She came in the very next weekfor us to do some and already
she went from, you know,basically not really being able

(13:25):
to do them to being able to dothem and then, the day of the
event, being able to do them sowell, she actually won her
category.
So the other she could do.
But she definitely improvedwhile training.
The pushups and squatsdefinitely was able to improve.
And the run she wasn't evenrunning about a month ago but
because she knew it was going tobe a run, she started doing a

(13:47):
mile or a little bit longer Ithink it might've been a mile,
but one day a week just tryingto get better.
And each week she got a littlebit better and then she had a
great mile time.
I love seeing that the otherone who had COVID wasn't able to
participate, is going toparticipate.
We're just going to do it hereat the gym when she's 100%.
And she did not want her shirtgiven to her, although she paid,

(14:11):
because on this shirt it says Iam strong.
And we gave out the shirts atthe end because we want people
to feel like they earned them,they accomplished it.
They can say I am strong and ifyou did that event, you are
strong.
That's what's cool.
You're able to run or powerwalk your way through it, you're
able to do the down and upburpees, you're able to do

(14:32):
pushups, you're able to dosquats, you're able to throw a
Frisbee.
That was the idea.
Too many people give out shirtsat 5Ks, like I'm paying for
this shirt.
It's like, eh, you're kind ofsupposed to be paying for the
opportunity to better yourself,right?
I mean, that's what this is allabout.
That's what we strive for withthese things.

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And so in this case, this clienthad been working for over six
weeks trying to get ready,really kind of intimidated about
the burpees, but then was ableto do them, was super
intimidated about the pushups,even though she had built up a
lot of upper body strength hereat the gym.
Pushups are different, you know, and sometimes they're
intimidating to people, but theygot so much better.

(15:16):
We went from like barely beingable to do any to being able to
do over 10 in a short period oftime.
Her squats were always good,but watching people train to do
it is the real key to get betterimplementing it into their life
lifestyle.
And finally, we were able todonate $500 plus, because I'm

(15:39):
very thankful that a lot of theparticipants, when they won cash
, turned the cash over toSophie's Circle along with our
$500.
And I love doing that because Ijust think it's very, very
important to get back to thecommunity.
Every year we pick a recipient,and Sophie Circle was it this
year and Kathy Blackman came outand she runs the organization

(16:02):
and they just do such a greatjob trying to help animals and I
shouldn't say trying to,because they absolutely meet
their goal of helping but theycan never get enough money, help
and support.
So I love doing that and shecame out and we had great
vendors come out to support.
It was just a really goodcommunity.
We had new groups come out,different track groups from Palm

(16:26):
Coast, flagler and another one,daytona Speed, from Daytona,
and they represented and it wasjust really cool to see new
blood and then, of course, oldblood Really cool to see new
blood and then, of course, oldblood.
So it was a great time.
I hope you guys can make it out.
Next year we're going to doroughly the same thing and tweak

(16:48):
what we need to tweak and againwe have our series coming up on
the mile, which is veryimportant.
As I said, it's important tothink about the intensity.
I want everybody to understand.
The other day one of ourclients said well, I'm not fast.
So well, who is?
I mean fast is so relative.
I mean the fastest mile issomewhere around three minutes

(17:11):
and 45 seconds.
Right now you can take thefastest runner that you have
ever known in your life andthey're not going to hit that
even close, okay, so it is very,very relative.
All right, you can go to theselocal 5Ks and somebody is going
to win in an amazing time of 17minutes and you're going to go.

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So what's your mile?
And it's going to be a littleover five or something like that
, which is amazing, right, butit's not a 345.
So what the heck is fast?
I mean fast is relative.
I'll tell you what fast isright now, faster than you've
gone.
That's the idea.
If people can run a mile better,I don't care.
If it's walk, okay, walk a mile, but the idea is to get better,

(18:00):
to challenge yourself, andsometimes, like I said, it's
great.
People are doing differentkinds of races and events like
5Ks and charity runs, okay.
But really the idea is toalways try to be our best, I
believe, and do what we can doin between to be better, not
just showing up to get a t-shirt.
You want to donate that isphenomenal, their organizations

(18:22):
need it.
But I've always believed if youput a number on, you should be
attempting to be your best andthen try to be your best.
So we're going to have a seriesfor that reason, because we
want to promotecardiorespiratory fitness.
It's critical.
It's critical.
It's critical for the health ofthe heart too, and the way we
get there is by always strivingto be a little bit better.

(18:44):
All right, so that's going tobe September 20th.
Hope we see everybody out thereand until next time, people,
please be max fit and please bemax wealth.
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