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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to there is a Method to the Madness.
My name is Rob Maxwell and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal trainer.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sFitness Programs and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really works and, mostimportantly, why things work.
Hence the name there is aMethod to the Madness.
(00:23):
Before I get started today, letme thank Jonathan and Lynn
Gilden of the Gilden GroupRealty Pros.
They are committed to providingthe highest level of customer
service in home sales.
Why don't you give them a shoutand figure out what your home
is worth?
386-451-2412.
(00:44):
Good morning, good afternoon.
886-451-2412.
Good morning, good afternoonand good evening to all my
MaxFitters out there.
Coach Rob here talking to youabout good old health and
(01:05):
fitness.
So people have asked me theysay you know, do you think that
AI is going to take away fromthe fitness industry?
You know they have machines nowthat tell people how many reps
to do, how much load.
(01:25):
I think even the local YMCAshave some of those machines.
I mean there are, you know,different programs you can get
at home that do that.
You know AI trainers orwhatever you want to call it.
I mean the short and the longanswer is absolutely not.
(01:46):
You know, I really believe thatpeople need people and, as I
spoke on, spoke about a fewepisodes about how you know man,
you know, as in our species,use of tools is our superpower
and I think AI and everythingelse can be a great tool
(02:11):
actually, and can be a greattool within the fitness industry
.
Like, I will use it for quickresearch.
Quick research if I'm workingon a book or working on the
email or working on something,then I will ask AI to break
something down for me and I willcheck it out and see the
(02:33):
sources and all that.
So I mean that's cool and, plus, you can just look up fun stuff
on AI in the fitness world andget some quick statistics.
So that's good.
Good, I mean, that's prettymuch all I've really used it for
in the fitness business and I'msure there's going to be other
(02:55):
uses for it in the health andfitness industry and I know that
there's other uses for it inother industries.
So no, I think that it's a tooland I think people need people
and this podcast really isn'tabout AI replacing fitness or
trainers or anybody else.
That's not really what this isabout.
(03:16):
This is more about how much weneed people.
The fitness community is so, soimportant.
I mean, the number one reasonwhy people hire a personal
trainer as I've spoken aboutmany, many times is
accountability.
(03:36):
You know, of course there's Iwant to learn how to exercise
properly.
There's the I want to be pushedcrowd.
You know there's.
There's all those and they'reall good reasons, but the number
one reason is accountability.
I mean I have, I would say, themajority of my clients know how
(03:57):
to work out.
After just you know, severalsessions, they probably can
figure out you know how to workout or to work out or how the
programming's going, what theyneed to do next.
But they need theaccountability.
I mean, is AI or anything elsegoing to do anything other than
(04:18):
set an alarm?
I mean you know, I guess someof the machines, like I said, at
some of the local YMCAs and,I'm sure, at definitely more
advanced places, are telling youhow much weight to use based on
different statistics that theyknow about you from the past.
I mean that's great, but isthat going to get you there?
I mean no.
(04:39):
I mean accountability is numberone because people need people.
Accountability is number onebecause people need people and I
believe it is a huge, huge aidto getting in better shape is
having a community of people tosupport you, and that's in my
new book I'm writing.
I'm writing all about that, andsupport is huge.
(05:00):
Statistics have shown thatpeople that feel supported are
far more likely to reach a goal.
And as much as our AI friend,whether you want to call it, you
know I'm skeptical and notskeptical.
I'm tentative about saying thename right now because in my my
phone will then go yes, what isyour question, robert?
(05:21):
So you can imagine the name Iwas going to say.
I mean yes, what is yourquestion, robert?
(05:48):
So you can imagine the name.
I was going to say I meanthey're not going to be our true
friends, right?
Different gyms I went to, butmy very first gym I ever went to
and, you know, made a communityin as far as that goes and you
know, I can still picture theguy today, and it's been
probably 40 years I still canpicture the guy that sat behind
the desk as I walked in.
His name was Scott, that's all Iknow, and I know he had big
(06:12):
glasses and he helped out and hewas there for a long time.
So I still remember that and Icould walk in and he'd be
sitting there.
If he wasn't there, he'd becleaning something in the back
or getting something out of theback or whatever you know and
I'd see him, we'd have indexcards or whatever the check-in
process was, and we'd do that,we'd sit there and we'd talk a
(06:34):
little bit about football weboth liked the NFL, we'd talk a
little bit about football and,you know, then I'd start my
warm-up and I'd get on my wayand I'd start working out, you
know, and then some of myfriends, or you know, friends I
haven't met yet, would come in,you know, and they became
friends.
I mean, I have so many friendsto this day from that community
(06:58):
in my old hometown in New Smyrna, at the old gym on Canal Street
, so many friends to this daythat I still speak to and I'm 59
years old and this is like Isaid, over 40 years ago.
I was probably 18, maybe 17when I started going there and
you have that community.
(07:19):
So I knew to working out, I wasfine on my way.
(07:42):
No-transcript, I wouldn'trecommend it for people with,
you know, special populations,but, you know, for young, strong
kids it worked out just fine.
And you know, we'd support eachother, we'd spot each other,
we'd talk to each other, we'dbanter with each other.
We'd banter with each other.
(08:03):
We'd become friends outside ofthe gym, go out to eat.
You know, we'd pick healthierplaces that we thought were
healthy at the time.
We'd go see movies.
I mean, these are all greatmemories that happened at the
gym.
And you know, no, I don'tbelieve there's any technology
that can replace that.
(08:24):
There is just no freaking way.
I mean, people need people and,a matter of fact, I would say
that can do via their computeror different kind of programs
that they can get.
I actually think it's kind of adetriment.
(08:54):
I mean, look at the mentalhealth crisis that we now have
right now.
Have, right, I mean, you cantune into anything wherever you
get your news, your news feeds,tv they're talking about that.
There's an uptick in mentalhealth issues, whether it be
(09:15):
depression, anxiety God forbidsuicides, right, but there is an
uptick and ever since COVIDthere's been an even greater
uptick with this.
As a matter of fact, covid isreally kind of thought of as the
culprit of all this, not thedisease itself, the illness
(09:36):
itself, but what we did to tryto control it, which was a lot
of isolation, a lot of hybridworking from home or a lot of
flat out working from home.
I'm not going to get into thepolitics of that.
I'm not going to get intowhat's best in the workplace.
I've heard different opinionson that from business people
(09:57):
that I listen to in podcasting,but I've heard pros and cons.
But from my perspective, formental health, I do not think
it's a pro.
I think people going to workand seeing other employees and
seeing their coworkers and youknow even their bosses and
(10:18):
seeing clients I just thinkpeople need it and you know
there's been a lot of researchon that lately.
There's loose ties and closeties and I believe I've spoken
about that in a prior podcast.
But what that means is we haveour close ties, like our family
members and our really closefriends that we can talk, to, be
(10:39):
vulnerable with and be 100%authentic with.
We have those people.
Those are close ties andthey're vital.
We don't need very many andmost of with we have those
people.
Those are close ties andthey're vital.
We don't need very many andmost of us don't have very many.
And then we have our loose tiesand you know it was around the
COVID time, and now thatresearchers, sociologists and
psychologists have determinedthat loose ties are a lot more
(11:04):
important than we thought.
And loose ties are, the guy Imentioned earlier At the gym
that worked there when I was akid, scott Big glasses Don't
remember his last name.
That shows you that was a loosetie.
No idea, probably never knewhis last name at the time and I
don't know if he had another job.
I really don't know his story,but that was a loose tie and it
(11:24):
was important in my life.
It was important in his lifeBecause research has shown that
those kind of like real,innocent conversations are good
for us.
They're a distraction, they're astress relief, they remove
anxiety, you know, they get usout of ourselves.
(11:46):
And so studies have found thatloose ties are really beneficial
.
And sociologists didn't starttalking about it until now and
about the COVID time, becausethat is what people have been
lacking.
You know they haven't had thoseloose ties.
You know as much.
(12:08):
You know people weren't going tothe grocery stores as much and
my daughter might argue with meand say, well, I wish they
wouldn't at all, because sheworks there and she sees
sometimes some of the worst ofhumanity I wouldn't say maybe
the worst of humanity but shesees some people that she wished
(12:31):
she did on a daily basis forsure.
You know some people that shewished she did on a daily basis
for sure and you know that issomething else that's come out
of this mental health crisis ispeople have forgotten how to be
decent to other people because Iguess they're in more pain or
whatever, but they're taking itout on other people and that is
(12:52):
never OK and that of course isnot healthy and that of course
is not healthy.
But she will tell me you knowwhere she works.
They modified how many peoplecould shop, but they still
stayed open.
And I can remember she wouldtell me you know different
customers that just she got toknow and talk to.
You know, and those are looseties.
So for her and you know she wasreal young then, gosh, she was
(13:13):
finishing up high school, Iguess when COVID started she got
the benefits of some of theloose ties of people that would
come in the store.
So she had that little casualconversation that helps a lot
more than people realize Now.
She was one of those that hadto finish her senior year at
home.
(13:33):
She was one of those that hadto finish her senior year at
home, which absolutely sucks,and the kids paid a price for
that and it's really sad thatthat happened, that they didn't
get to go to school and finishout their school.
So all this is related tofitness, because the same thing
has happened in the gym industry.
(13:54):
I mean, yeah, there's placesyou can go now, I mean, most
gyms is a keypad to get in anduse the facility as you wish.
Even the YMCA has that.
With different memberships.
You can go in, scan your cardor scan your phones, your QR
code, whatever, and go in andwork out when you want to.
(14:17):
And a lot of people say, well, Ilike to go.
Nobody's there, you know.
But you know why aren't morepeople going to the gyms?
Then, if it's more convenient,it's because people actually do
want to see people.
People actually do want to seepeople.
I mean, it sounds cool at firstand there's no doubt that at
(14:40):
times it's a benefit, like forme being a personal trainer
working in a gym all day long.
You know, sometimes I definitelylike to de-stress and isolate
when I work out.
I like to put in my headphonesand work out.
If there's somebody else there.
I don't work out at my gym.
I won't work out when peopleare there.
I don't like to.
And if I'm somewhere else, andespecially somewhere else where
(15:04):
I might be known a little bit,know what I do.
I don't like that.
So I do tend to.
I personally would like theprivacy because I am in a gym
talking to people all day right,but I don't like privacy in
general.
The last thing I want to do isgo home and be by myself and not
be able to deload myself.
Last thing I want to do is nothave friends to talk to.
(15:25):
So you know that.
Know that when you have your 30minutes to an hour or whatever
it is a day, you want to come inand work out.
You know, and I know, like at mygym.
You know I have a private gym.
For those that don't know, it'sa personal training studio.
It's one-on-one, one trainer,one client.
(15:47):
You know, and we'll have otherpeople in there.
Sometimes, like we'll have onetrainer with somebody else, me
with somebody else, whatever.
But you know it's so funnyPeople you would think people be
like no man.
I mean there are some peoplethat are like that.
Thankfully we don't really haveclients like that, but there's
been some in the past that havebeen no, I want total privacy.
(16:10):
You know, I don't want anybodyelse there.
That's the benefit to this.
You know, I don't really hearthat.
As a matter of fact, whenevermy schedule's gotten a little
twisted and it's been a littletwisted for me this week I mean,
you're listening to this nextweek, but for me this week, I've
been upside down.
I've had to cover a lot andI've told clients.
(16:31):
I said hey, and I've toldclients.
I said hey, you know, you cancome at this normal time, but
it's going to be you andso-and-so, and you guys are
going to have to share this timebecause I'm, you know, I'm full
and they're like oh, I likewhen somebody else is there, I
mean it's I've, I've had thatI've never really had.
Oh no, I don't want that.
(16:53):
I want all of your attention.
And nope, I mean again, thathappens sometimes, but most of
the time people want to seeother people at the gym and even
if that means sharing apersonal training session, I
don't care, I'm going to get thesame workout.
I mean, you're still going totell me what to do and watch me.
I mean, who cares?
I mean they like interaction,people.
(17:15):
I watch people in there andtheir whole demeanor changes
when other people show up Likethey like it and we like it.
You know hate to break it toyou.
I mean I'm pretty much anintrovert, but we're social
creatures.
I mean we will gravitatetowards other people and there's
no technology in the worldthat's going to get us to work
(17:38):
out like our workout partnersare.
I mean that's just not going tohappen.
We can utilize these tools, butno, we need people.
And when I talk about in my book, like the values of personal
training, I mean it all comesdown to that relationship, you
know.
It comes down to theaccountability, it comes down to
(18:01):
the encouragement, it comesdown to tough love, right, I
mean it comes down to pushingRight those four things.
I mean, does it get any moreimportant than that?
I mean you can throw educationin there, but AI can probably do
education.
I mean you know there'sdifferent programs.
(18:24):
You can program into yourcomputer and tell you a fitness
program based on your goals andyou can probably get real close
to what you need to do.
But it ain't going to meet youthere and if it does, you're
probably going to bedisappointed, right, I mean
you're going to get theencouragement if you set it to
encourage you.
I mean you know, like Facebookprompt, right, what's on your
(18:46):
mind today?
It's like, oh yeah, that's aquestion to ask everybody, like
anybody really cares what's onyour mind today.
But you might get those prompts, like you did your workout
today.
There you go.
I mean I know MyFitnessPal doesthat After I log for a week or
something like that, or 10 days,it always says congratulations,
(19:08):
keeping up, you're crushing it.
And it's not like I go, oh man,thanks my fitness pal.
I mean, oh, my goodness, thankyou.
Right, I mean you know it's aprompt.
It can't encourage you, youknow.
But what about when you'vereally been watching what you
(19:28):
eat and eating better and doingyour exercises and all of a
sudden you've dropped fourpounds?
And you come home and yourpartner says, wow, you really
look good.
Okay, we all know what thatfeels like.
We just got that big old burstof dopamine right.
We just got a big smile, wejust felt encouraged because we
(19:51):
know it's a real human with realhumans, real humans, real
humans with real humans.
It's a human with real feelings, telling us their real feelings
and that's pretty cool.
You can have your ai or yourprogram push you at the gym,
right, come on, do more, do more.
I mean I would imagine you canprompt it to do that and you're
(20:14):
going to be like you know what,shut the hell up, right.
And you might tell me that attimes, right, I don't mind it.
And somebody tell me that today, and then they, you know, and
then they did it and that'sgreat, I like that, right.
So they can't push you.
We need people to push us.
We need people that care aboutus, care about our fitness, care
(20:35):
about our progress.
Don't worry about stuff likethat.
Anyway, I try not to worryabout things I can't control,
(20:56):
but even when I just speak aboutthis very objectively, it's
like no man.
I mean, fitness is always goingto be about your relationship
with you and your goals, andthen the aid is always going to
come from support and help.
I mean, I have clients all overthe place.
(21:16):
I have clients that do remoteworkouts, that live in different
states, and one of them hasaccess to three different gyms
at his work.
Three different gyms because heworks for a huge company out
there in California.
Three gyms, but we call becausehe needs for a huge company out
there in California Three gems.
But we call because he needsthe accountability.
(21:37):
He wants the accountability andhe's smart too.
He wants the push because,believe it or not, on a FaceTime
I can push.
Right, I'd be like no, no, no,come on, push, push, push
whatever.
Or add this weight, add thatweight.
He needs the encouragement.
We all need the encouragementto keep going.
Needs the tough love, right?
Sometimes you know the robotcan tell us, you know, oh, you
(22:01):
failed on your goal today and ifyou don't do what you're
supposed to do, I'm not going tobe happy.
I guess maybe it would say that, whatever it would say we
wouldn't listen, right?
We need that real tough love ofsomebody saying look, I know
you want to do this, I know youwant to run that 5k on your
(22:26):
birthday because you've neverdone it before.
And I got to be honest with youwhen you started this program.
You were all in and I'venoticed now you've missed two
out of your last three runs.
This isn't going to cut it andif you're going to continue to
do this, you're not going toreach your goal.
That's tough love.
That's telling somebody thefacts, telling them you care and
(22:47):
telling them what they're notdoing right, that is tough love.
I'm sorry, but there's not aprogram in the world you can
program to do that that you'regoing to listen to.
So now we need people.
People aren't going anywhere.
You know.
We're going to need each otherto support each other.
I need it too.
I need support.
I love support.
You know, I have certain peoplewhen I'll do a 5k or something
(23:10):
like that that are verysupportive, supportive, and when
I see them on, you know eitherthey're running along or, you
know, crossing paths.
I mean they're very supportiveand it always gives me a little
pick me up, right, I mean it's agood thing, we all need it and
that's going to come from ourgood interactions.
All right, so it.
You know.
(23:30):
My advice to you is if you havebeen doing a lot of stuff at
home by yourself, you, you know,yes, that's better than nothing
, you know.
So if you've, you know a lot ofpeople were doing Peloton,
right, everybody jumped on thePeloton revolution and during
COVID man, it just went crazy,right?
Everybody bought a Peloton andnow everybody's selling their
Peloton for like half theirworth.
But you know, that is what itis and I could have told you
(23:53):
that was going to happen, butmaybe you're one of those people
still.
I mean that's great.
I mean I think there is timefor isolation and exercise.
But I strongly encourage youthat, if you're going to stick
with this, get someaccountability partners.
Get in a group, join a run clubrunning group.
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Get in a gym with people thatare friendly.
I mean really honestly, in mostgyms people are friendly.
I mean I see these videossometimes where people aren't,
but I truly believe that's theanomaly.
I mean I really think peopleare friendly.
In most gyms there's alwaysgoing to be friendly people.
Everywhere you go, there'sgoing to be encouraging people
everywhere you go.
There's going to be encouragingpeople wherever you go, you
(24:34):
know.
So join a gym.
If you're doing a lot of stuffat home and you're finding that
you know you're just not hittingthe motivation like you want,
well, you know, remember thesewords.
You know people need people.
Maybe it's time to get out ofthe house and get with our
fellow humans and you know what,be the encourager too.
If you think you're not at thatpoint, that's not true.
(24:58):
I mean you working out, even ifyou think you haven't hit your
goals yet.
I mean none of us have hit allof our goals.
Be encouraging to other peopletoo, because there's a lot of
fitness groups out there thatare just beaming with
encouragement, and I see it allthe time online.
It's one of the positive thingsonline, so give it a try.
Get out of the old basement andstart getting out there and
(25:23):
just remember people need people.
Don't worry about Mr Robotreplacing us.
All right, we can use them astools and at least in the
fitness world, we're going toneed each other.
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Welcome to there is a Method to the Madness.
My name is Rob Maxwell and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal trainer.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sFitness Programs and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really works and, mostimportantly, why things work.
Hence the name there is aMethod to the Madness.
(00:23):
Before I get started today, letme thank Jonathan and Lynn
Gilden of the Gilden GroupRealty Pros.
They are committed to providingthe highest level of customer
service in home sales.
Why don't you give them a shoutand figure out what your home
is worth?
386-451-2412.
(00:44):
Good morning, good afternoon.
886-451-2412.
Good morning, good afternoonand good evening to all my
MaxFitters out there.
Coach Rob here talking to youabout good old health and
(01:05):
fitness.
So people have asked me theysay you know, do you think that
AI is going to take away fromthe fitness industry?
You know they have machines nowthat tell people how many reps
to do, how much load.
(01:25):
I think even the local YMCAshave some of those machines.
I mean there are, you know,different programs you can get
at home that do that.
You know AI trainers orwhatever you want to call it.
I mean the short and the longanswer is absolutely not.
(01:46):
You know, I really believe thatpeople need people and, as I
spoke on, spoke about a fewepisodes about how you know man,
you know, as in our species,use of tools is our superpower
and I think AI and everythingelse can be a great tool
(02:11):
actually, and can be a greattool within the fitness industry
.
Like, I will use it for quickresearch.
Quick research if I'm workingon a book or working on the
email or working on something,then I will ask AI to break
something down for me and I willcheck it out and see the
(02:33):
sources and all that.
So I mean that's cool and, plus, you can just look up fun stuff
on AI in the fitness world andget some quick statistics.
So that's good.
Good, I mean, that's prettymuch all I've really used it for
in the fitness business and I'msure there's going to be other
(02:55):
uses for it in the health andfitness industry and I know that
there's other uses for it inother industries.
So no, I think that it's a tooland I think people need people
and this podcast really isn'tabout AI replacing fitness or
trainers or anybody else.
That's not really what this isabout.
(03:16):
This is more about how much weneed people.
The fitness community is so, soimportant.
I mean, the number one reasonwhy people hire a personal
trainer as I've spoken aboutmany, many times is
accountability.
(03:36):
You know, of course there's Iwant to learn how to exercise
properly.
There's the I want to be pushedcrowd.
You know there's.
There's all those and they'reall good reasons, but the number
one reason is accountability.
I mean I have, I would say, themajority of my clients know how
(03:57):
to work out.
After just you know, severalsessions, they probably can
figure out you know how to workout or to work out or how the
programming's going, what theyneed to do next.
But they need theaccountability.
I mean, is AI or anything elsegoing to do anything other than
(04:18):
set an alarm?
I mean you know, I guess someof the machines, like I said, at
some of the local YMCAs and,I'm sure, at definitely more
advanced places, are telling youhow much weight to use based on
different statistics that theyknow about you from the past.
I mean that's great, but isthat going to get you there?
I mean no.
(04:39):
I mean accountability is numberone because people need people.
Accountability is number onebecause people need people and I
believe it is a huge, huge aidto getting in better shape is
having a community of people tosupport you, and that's in my
new book I'm writing.
I'm writing all about that, andsupport is huge.
(05:00):
Statistics have shown thatpeople that feel supported are
far more likely to reach a goal.
And as much as our AI friend,whether you want to call it, you
know I'm skeptical and notskeptical.
I'm tentative about saying thename right now because in my my
phone will then go yes, what isyour question, robert?
(05:21):
So you can imagine the name Iwas going to say.
I mean yes, what is yourquestion, robert?
(05:48):
So you can imagine the name.
I was going to say I meanthey're not going to be our true
friends, right?
Different gyms I went to, butmy very first gym I ever went to
and, you know, made a communityin as far as that goes and you
know, I can still picture theguy today, and it's been
probably 40 years I still canpicture the guy that sat behind
the desk as I walked in.
His name was Scott, that's all Iknow, and I know he had big
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glasses and he helped out and hewas there for a long time.
So I still remember that and Icould walk in and he'd be
sitting there.
If he wasn't there, he'd becleaning something in the back
or getting something out of theback or whatever you know and
I'd see him, we'd have indexcards or whatever the check-in
process was, and we'd do that,we'd sit there and we'd talk a
(06:34):
little bit about football weboth liked the NFL, we'd talk a
little bit about football and,you know, then I'd start my
warm-up and I'd get on my wayand I'd start working out, you
know, and then some of myfriends, or you know, friends I
haven't met yet, would come in,you know, and they became
friends.
I mean, I have so many friendsto this day from that community
(06:58):
in my old hometown in New Smyrna, at the old gym on Canal Street
, so many friends to this daythat I still speak to and I'm 59
years old and this is like Isaid, over 40 years ago.
I was probably 18, maybe 17when I started going there and
you have that community.
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So I knew to working out, I wasfine on my way.
(07:42):
No-transcript, I wouldn'trecommend it for people with,
you know, special populations,but, you know, for young, strong
kids it worked out just fine.
And you know, we'd support eachother, we'd spot each other,
we'd talk to each other, we'dbanter with each other.
We'd banter with each other.
(08:03):
We'd become friends outside ofthe gym, go out to eat.
You know, we'd pick healthierplaces that we thought were
healthy at the time.
We'd go see movies.
I mean, these are all greatmemories that happened at the
gym.
And you know, no, I don'tbelieve there's any technology
that can replace that.
(08:24):
There is just no freaking way.
I mean, people need people and,a matter of fact, I would say
that can do via their computeror different kind of programs
that they can get.
I actually think it's kind of adetriment.
(08:54):
I mean, look at the mentalhealth crisis that we now have
right now.
Have, right, I mean, you cantune into anything wherever you
get your news, your news feeds,tv they're talking about that.
There's an uptick in mentalhealth issues, whether it be
(09:15):
depression, anxiety God forbidsuicides, right, but there is an
uptick and ever since COVIDthere's been an even greater
uptick with this.
As a matter of fact, covid isreally kind of thought of as the
culprit of all this, not thedisease itself, the illness
(09:36):
itself, but what we did to tryto control it, which was a lot
of isolation, a lot of hybridworking from home or a lot of
flat out working from home.
I'm not going to get into thepolitics of that.
I'm not going to get intowhat's best in the workplace.
I've heard different opinionson that from business people
(09:57):
that I listen to in podcasting,but I've heard pros and cons.
But from my perspective, formental health, I do not think
it's a pro.
I think people going to workand seeing other employees and
seeing their coworkers and youknow even their bosses and
(10:18):
seeing clients I just thinkpeople need it and you know
there's been a lot of researchon that lately.
There's loose ties and closeties and I believe I've spoken
about that in a prior podcast.
But what that means is we haveour close ties, like our family
members and our really closefriends that we can talk, to, be
(10:39):
vulnerable with and be 100%authentic with.
We have those people.
Those are close ties andthey're vital.
We don't need very many andmost of with we have those
people.
Those are close ties andthey're vital.
We don't need very many andmost of us don't have very many.
And then we have our loose tiesand you know it was around the
COVID time, and now thatresearchers, sociologists and
psychologists have determinedthat loose ties are a lot more
(11:04):
important than we thought.
And loose ties are, the guy Imentioned earlier At the gym
that worked there when I was akid, scott Big glasses Don't
remember his last name.
That shows you that was a loosetie.
No idea, probably never knewhis last name at the time and I
don't know if he had another job.
I really don't know his story,but that was a loose tie and it
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was important in my life.
It was important in his lifeBecause research has shown that
those kind of like real,innocent conversations are good
for us.
They're a distraction, they're astress relief, they remove
anxiety, you know, they get usout of ourselves.
(11:46):
And so studies have found thatloose ties are really beneficial
.
And sociologists didn't starttalking about it until now and
about the COVID time, becausethat is what people have been
lacking.
You know they haven't had thoseloose ties.
You know as much.
(12:08):
You know people weren't going tothe grocery stores as much and
my daughter might argue with meand say, well, I wish they
wouldn't at all, because sheworks there and she sees
sometimes some of the worst ofhumanity I wouldn't say maybe
the worst of humanity but shesees some people that she wished
(12:31):
she did on a daily basis forsure.
You know some people that shewished she did on a daily basis
for sure and you know that issomething else that's come out
of this mental health crisis ispeople have forgotten how to be
decent to other people because Iguess they're in more pain or
whatever, but they're taking itout on other people and that is
(12:52):
never OK and that of course isnot healthy and that of course
is not healthy.
But she will tell me you knowwhere she works.
They modified how many peoplecould shop, but they still
stayed open.
And I can remember she wouldtell me you know different
customers that just she got toknow and talk to.
You know, and those are looseties.
So for her and you know she wasreal young then, gosh, she was
(13:13):
finishing up high school, Iguess when COVID started she got
the benefits of some of theloose ties of people that would
come in the store.
So she had that little casualconversation that helps a lot
more than people realize Now.
She was one of those that hadto finish her senior year at
home.
(13:33):
She was one of those that hadto finish her senior year at
home, which absolutely sucks,and the kids paid a price for
that and it's really sad thatthat happened, that they didn't
get to go to school and finishout their school.
So all this is related tofitness, because the same thing
has happened in the gym industry.
(13:54):
I mean, yeah, there's placesyou can go now, I mean, most
gyms is a keypad to get in anduse the facility as you wish.
Even the YMCA has that.
With different memberships.
You can go in, scan your cardor scan your phones, your QR
code, whatever, and go in andwork out when you want to.
(14:17):
And a lot of people say, well, Ilike to go.
Nobody's there, you know.
But you know why aren't morepeople going to the gyms?
Then, if it's more convenient,it's because people actually do
want to see people.
People actually do want to seepeople.
I mean, it sounds cool at firstand there's no doubt that at
(14:40):
times it's a benefit, like forme being a personal trainer
working in a gym all day long.
You know, sometimes I definitelylike to de-stress and isolate
when I work out.
I like to put in my headphonesand work out.
If there's somebody else there.
I don't work out at my gym.
I won't work out when peopleare there.
I don't like to.
And if I'm somewhere else, andespecially somewhere else where
(15:04):
I might be known a little bit,know what I do.
I don't like that.
So I do tend to.
I personally would like theprivacy because I am in a gym
talking to people all day right,but I don't like privacy in
general.
The last thing I want to do isgo home and be by myself and not
be able to deload myself.
Last thing I want to do is nothave friends to talk to.
(15:25):
So you know that.
Know that when you have your 30minutes to an hour or whatever
it is a day, you want to come inand work out.
You know, and I know, like at mygym.
You know I have a private gym.
For those that don't know, it'sa personal training studio.
It's one-on-one, one trainer,one client.
(15:47):
You know, and we'll have otherpeople in there.
Sometimes, like we'll have onetrainer with somebody else, me
with somebody else, whatever.
But you know it's so funnyPeople you would think people be
like no man.
I mean there are some peoplethat are like that.
Thankfully we don't really haveclients like that, but there's
been some in the past that havebeen no, I want total privacy.
(16:10):
You know, I don't want anybodyelse there.
That's the benefit to this.
You know, I don't really hearthat.
As a matter of fact, whenevermy schedule's gotten a little
twisted and it's been a littletwisted for me this week I mean,
you're listening to this nextweek, but for me this week, I've
been upside down.
I've had to cover a lot andI've told clients.
(16:31):
I said hey, and I've toldclients.
I said hey, you know, you cancome at this normal time, but
it's going to be you andso-and-so, and you guys are
going to have to share this timebecause I'm, you know, I'm full
and they're like oh, I likewhen somebody else is there, I
mean it's I've, I've had thatI've never really had.
Oh no, I don't want that.
(16:53):
I want all of your attention.
And nope, I mean again, thathappens sometimes, but most of
the time people want to seeother people at the gym and even
if that means sharing apersonal training session, I
don't care, I'm going to get thesame workout.
I mean, you're still going totell me what to do and watch me.
I mean, who cares?
I mean they like interaction,people.
(17:15):
I watch people in there andtheir whole demeanor changes
when other people show up Likethey like it and we like it.
You know hate to break it toyou.
I mean I'm pretty much anintrovert, but we're social
creatures.
I mean we will gravitatetowards other people and there's
no technology in the worldthat's going to get us to work
(17:38):
out like our workout partnersare.
I mean that's just not going tohappen.
We can utilize these tools, butno, we need people.
And when I talk about in my book, like the values of personal
training, I mean it all comesdown to that relationship, you
know.
It comes down to theaccountability, it comes down to
(18:01):
the encouragement, it comesdown to tough love, right, I
mean it comes down to pushingRight those four things.
I mean, does it get any moreimportant than that?
I mean you can throw educationin there, but AI can probably do
education.
I mean you know there'sdifferent programs.
(18:24):
You can program into yourcomputer and tell you a fitness
program based on your goals andyou can probably get real close
to what you need to do.
But it ain't going to meet youthere and if it does, you're
probably going to bedisappointed, right, I mean
you're going to get theencouragement if you set it to
encourage you.
I mean you know, like Facebookprompt, right, what's on your
(18:46):
mind today?
It's like, oh yeah, that's aquestion to ask everybody, like
anybody really cares what's onyour mind today.
But you might get those prompts, like you did your workout
today.
There you go.
I mean I know MyFitnessPal doesthat After I log for a week or
something like that, or 10 days,it always says congratulations,
(19:08):
keeping up, you're crushing it.
And it's not like I go, oh man,thanks my fitness pal.
I mean, oh, my goodness, thankyou.
Right, I mean you know it's aprompt.
It can't encourage you, youknow.
But what about when you'vereally been watching what you
(19:28):
eat and eating better and doingyour exercises and all of a
sudden you've dropped fourpounds?
And you come home and yourpartner says, wow, you really
look good.
Okay, we all know what thatfeels like.
We just got that big old burstof dopamine right.
We just got a big smile, wejust felt encouraged because we
(19:51):
know it's a real human with realhumans, real humans, real
humans with real humans.
It's a human with real feelings, telling us their real feelings
and that's pretty cool.
You can have your ai or yourprogram push you at the gym,
right, come on, do more, do more.
I mean I would imagine you canprompt it to do that and you're
(20:14):
going to be like you know what,shut the hell up, right.
And you might tell me that attimes, right, I don't mind it.
And somebody tell me that today, and then they, you know, and
then they did it and that'sgreat, I like that, right.
So they can't push you.
We need people to push us.
We need people that care aboutus, care about our fitness, care
(20:35):
about our progress.
Don't worry about stuff likethat.
Anyway, I try not to worryabout things I can't control,
(20:56):
but even when I just speak aboutthis very objectively, it's
like no man.
I mean, fitness is always goingto be about your relationship
with you and your goals, andthen the aid is always going to
come from support and help.
I mean, I have clients all overthe place.
(21:16):
I have clients that do remoteworkouts, that live in different
states, and one of them hasaccess to three different gyms
at his work.
Three different gyms because heworks for a huge company out
there in California.
Three gyms, but we call becausehe needs for a huge company out
there in California Three gems.
But we call because he needsthe accountability.
(21:37):
He wants the accountability andhe's smart too.
He wants the push because,believe it or not, on a FaceTime
I can push.
Right, I'd be like no, no, no,come on, push, push, push
whatever.
Or add this weight, add thatweight.
He needs the encouragement.
We all need the encouragementto keep going.
Needs the tough love, right?
Sometimes you know the robotcan tell us, you know, oh, you
(22:01):
failed on your goal today and ifyou don't do what you're
supposed to do, I'm not going tobe happy.
I guess maybe it would say that, whatever it would say we
wouldn't listen, right?
We need that real tough love ofsomebody saying look, I know
you want to do this, I know youwant to run that 5k on your
(22:26):
birthday because you've neverdone it before.
And I got to be honest with youwhen you started this program.
You were all in and I'venoticed now you've missed two
out of your last three runs.
This isn't going to cut it andif you're going to continue to
do this, you're not going toreach your goal.
That's tough love.
That's telling somebody thefacts, telling them you care and
(22:47):
telling them what they're notdoing right, that is tough love.
I'm sorry, but there's not aprogram in the world you can
program to do that that you'regoing to listen to.
So now we need people.
People aren't going anywhere.
You know.
We're going to need each otherto support each other.
I need it too.
I need support.
I love support.
You know, I have certain peoplewhen I'll do a 5k or something
(23:10):
like that that are verysupportive, supportive, and when
I see them on, you know eitherthey're running along or, you
know, crossing paths.
I mean they're very supportiveand it always gives me a little
pick me up, right, I mean it's agood thing, we all need it and
that's going to come from ourgood interactions.
All right, so it.
You know.
(23:30):
My advice to you is if you havebeen doing a lot of stuff at
home by yourself, you, you know,yes, that's better than nothing
, you know.
So if you've, you know a lot ofpeople were doing Peloton,
right, everybody jumped on thePeloton revolution and during
COVID man, it just went crazy,right?
Everybody bought a Peloton andnow everybody's selling their
Peloton for like half theirworth.
But you know, that is what itis and I could have told you
(23:53):
that was going to happen, butmaybe you're one of those people
still.
I mean that's great.
I mean I think there is timefor isolation and exercise.
But I strongly encourage youthat, if you're going to stick
with this, get someaccountability partners.
Get in a group, join a run clubrunning group.
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Get in a gym with people thatare friendly.
I mean really honestly, in mostgyms people are friendly.
I mean I see these videossometimes where people aren't,
but I truly believe that's theanomaly.
I mean I really think peopleare friendly.
In most gyms there's alwaysgoing to be friendly people.
Everywhere you go, there'sgoing to be encouraging people
everywhere you go.
There's going to be encouragingpeople wherever you go, you
(24:34):
know.
So join a gym.
If you're doing a lot of stuffat home and you're finding that
you know you're just not hittingthe motivation like you want,
well, you know, remember thesewords.
You know people need people.
Maybe it's time to get out ofthe house and get with our
fellow humans and you know what,be the encourager too.
If you think you're not at thatpoint, that's not true.
(24:58):
I mean you working out, even ifyou think you haven't hit your
goals yet.
I mean none of us have hit allof our goals.
Be encouraging to other peopletoo, because there's a lot of
fitness groups out there thatare just beaming with
encouragement, and I see it allthe time online.
It's one of the positive thingsonline, so give it a try.
Get out of the old basement andstart getting out there and
(25:23):
just remember people need people.
Don't worry about Mr Robotreplacing us.
All right, we can use them astools and at least in the
fitness world, we're going toneed each other.
All right, be max fit and bemax well.
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