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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome to There is a Method to the Magnet.
My name is Rob Maxwell, and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal training.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sFitness Program, and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really worked and mostimportantly why did it work.
Thanks to the name, there is amethod to the magnet.
(00:24):
Before I get started today, letme thank Jonathan and Lynn
Gilded of the Gilding Group ELTPros.
They are committed to providingthe highest level of customer
service in home sales.
Why don't you give them a shoutand figure out what your home is
worth?
386-451-2412.
(00:46):
Hello everybody.
Coach Rob here.
I don't know what time you arelistening to this, but good
morning, good afternoon, goodevening, whatever time you're
listening to it.
I'm told a lot of people listento it on the way to the gym, or
sometimes when they're at thegym.
So that absolutely works.
(01:07):
That's a time that I listen to alot of podcasts as well.
Sometimes when I'm doing mycardio, sometimes when I'm
driving in, and uh sometimes Ilisten to my own podcast.
I want to uh listen to itcritically and see what we can
do better.
So um, anyway, glad you'relistening.
(01:27):
Glad you are attempting to getmore physically well and improve
your lifestyle, because that'sthe biggest part of all this.
It's not a temporary thing, inmy estimation, as far as living
the healthier lifestyle.
It is about trying to exerciseevery day, if not almost every
(01:49):
day, or I should say almostevery day, if not every day,
trying to make the best foodchoices you can make each and
every day.
I mean, it truly should be a newlifestyle, or hopefully
something that appeals to you tomake it a new lifestyle and not
just a temporary thing.
You know, we're closing out theyear, unbelievably.
(02:13):
We're in December now, and uh,you know, soon everybody's gonna
be making their New Year'sresolutions and the gym fills
up, and people start talkingabout it, talking about weight
loss.
And, you know, in my 30 plusyears of doing this, uh, I can
share with you that almost thathas never been a success as far
(02:36):
as people saying they're gonnathey're they have a uh
commitment to lose, say, 10 or15 pounds or whatever, call it a
resolution, you know, call itwhat you want, and then they
either don't do it or maybe theydo do it, and then they put the
weight back on.
So really it's about trying tocatch that healthy lifestyle to
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the best of your ability.
It doesn't have to be aperfectionistic lifestyle, just
a good, healthy lifestyle, whichis, I think, very attainable for
everybody.
All right, so that's my littlemini rant.
Now let's get into the subjectof the day, which is going to be
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getting support from yourworkout partner or trainer or
accountability partner.
So by now, I hope you havepicked up my new book, Training
for Life.
And uh, as I've said already ina podcast, I'm cleaning up a
(03:43):
couple of the errors that Ifound in it.
Uh, not throwing the editingcompany under the bus, but uh
they did mess, I think, 10things up I sent back.
So they are fixing that becauseI'm a bit of a perfectionist and
I didn't like it.
And uh they are fixing it, buthopefully you can see the forest
through the trees if you caughtany of it and see the main point
(04:05):
of the book, which is that uh wehave a big, big, big activity
problem in this country.
Only 20% of our population aretaking the advantage of the
benefits of exercise.
So that means that only 20% aredoing the 150 minutes per week
of aerobic exercise plus the twodays of strength training.
(04:29):
I mean, 80% of the people arenot doing that.
That is a big problem.
Even if someone didn't clean uptheir diet, although that's
really hard not to do when youstart exercising.
Studies have found that just byexercising alone, you start to
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make better food choices.
It's just kind of evolves thatway.
But even if you didn't, youstill get the benefits of
exercise.
And that 150 minutes per weekplus the two days of strength
training equates to about 1.8%of your week time wise.
So clearly there is a problem.
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Why aren't people reallycommitting to that?
Do they not believe it?
Do they think it has to be somuch more?
Is it still not worth it tothem?
Um, somebody told me today asthey were warming up on the bike
at the gym.
They asked me my thoughtsbecause a uh a very well-known
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public figure, which uh tends tobe in the news quite often, and
some of the things that we hearis just ludicrous.
But this is one of them whereapparently I didn't hear this,
but he had said he doesn'texercise because he believes we
only have a limited amount ofenergy, so he doesn't want to
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use it up.
Um, if anybody's listening tothat, just know that that is
completely ridiculous.
And obviously, that's just anexcuse for being lazy in this
situation.
Um and there's no truth to it.
There used to be people that ranaround and said the same thing
about heart rate, that yourheart only has so many beats in
a lifetime.
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So if you elevate your heartrate unnecessarily, you are
going to die younger.
Okay, these things, people arenot true.
So if we're really believingthat the complete ludicrous
stuff, I mean, I don't know.
I don't think you'd be listeningto this podcast, but you know,
who knows?
Anyway, it is not true.
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So the first part of my book, Italk about what the problems
are.
And um, you know, a lot of it islack of education in the
trainers that are out there kindof pushing different things.
There is an ignorance among thepopulation believing what they
think they have to do.
There is the myth of time,meaning people think they don't
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have enough time.
There is the myth of distance,people think that uh, you know,
that they have to go too far toexercise, which I'm trying to
dispel absolutely is not true.
There is the, you know, thebelief of a possible laziness
gene in human beings, which theyreally haven't been able to
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show.
And so I discount that one in mybook.
But there is a theory called thethrifty gene theory, which
essentially means that we savesome of our energy so we can uh,
you know, kill our food, so tosay.
So this would have been moreapplicable way, way back when we
were hunting for our own food.
But there is some belief in thethrifty gene theory as far as
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maybe it relates to exercise,but most likely not, regarding
that.
So, and then I get into the meatand the potatoes of the book,
which is what are the solutionsto these alleged problems?
And one of them isaccountability, as I've talked
about.
Another one is being pushed ormotivation, which I talk about.
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Another one is education.
So a solution is to actuallyeducate the people so they know
what to do and know what not todo.
Another one, and that's the oneI'm going to focus on today, is
support.
And then finally, one that I'vealready covered is the problem
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of decision fatigue.
So a good trainer oraccountability partner will help
people with that because studiesshow that the more decisions
somebody has to make, the lesslikely it is that they want to
make another one.
So, in other words, they don'tgo to the gym because they're
thinking, I don't know what todo, I'm not sure what to do, I'm
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not sure what I want to do.
So, having your trainer or anaccountability partner helps
that because they kind of makethe decisions for you or help
you make them.
All right.
But today I'm gonna focus onsupport.
That is a big part of personaltraining.
Like as a trainer, there's a lotof variables you need to have.
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And some of it is learning andeducation, meaning I believe
there should be a level ofeducation involved.
I mean, ideally, a bachelor'sdegree or master's degree.
I personally have a master'sdegree.
To me, it was very, veryimportant to become educated in
that.
I think it's important, but notnecessarily critical.
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I do think it's critical to havethe proper certification.
So, or in some states, theproper licensing.
I do think that is very, veryimportant.
There are only fourorganizations that are
accredited.
Um, so I do believe it'simportant to have one of them.
I believe it's important to haveexperience.
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I always used to tell studentsthat I used to teach when they
wanted to be personal trainers.
I used to tell them, look,you've got to be your first
client.
That's where the experiencebegins.
You have to know yourself whathas worked for you.
Now, that is not enough all byitself.
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There are too many trainers outthere that that's all they have.
They've had some luck or someexperience with success with
themselves.
And when I say luck, I don'tmean that in a bad way.
I just mean like they have shownsome success with themselves,
and that's great, but thereneeds to be more than that to
know how to work with otherpeople.
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You do need a scientificfoundation, and you do need
otherly experience with that.
So, you know, just having it byitself is not enough, but I do
think a trainer needs it.
Like for me, that's where Istarted.
I started working out at apretty young age.
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I was a late teen.
I got into it really heavily,like 1920, early 20s.
I mean, I was real into it doingsome bodybuilding.
Um, it was my lifestyle.
I trained every day while goingto college.
Like it was a big, big part ofmy life.
I was my first client.
Like I knew how to work out.
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Like I knew my way around aweight room.
I knew my way around a gym.
And I think that's really,really important.
Now, for me, it wasn't enough.
I felt like I needed to get morescientific training.
So when I had a uh, you know, anepiphany and decided I wanted to
leave the psychology fieldworking as a counselor and get
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into it, I wanted to getspecific education.
So I went back for my master'sbecause I already had a
bachelor's in psychology.
So for me, it was reallyimportant to do that.
And then I went on and got mycertification, and I built a lot
of experience through the yearsof being a personal trainer.
So I think that's the foundationof success with a trainer.
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But like the big thing I want totalk about today is the support
factor.
I think you also, as aneffective trainer, need to have
a lot of empathy and compassionand a willingness and a desire
to support your clients.
You know, it's easy to start tolike some of your clients.
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And you might find that funnyand go, don't you like all of
them?
No, and that's not overlycritical.
Like, you're not gonna alwayslike all of your customers.
I would say that through 30years, I've liked almost all of
them.
I don't know, 80%.
And there's been 20% or so, youknow, some that uh I kept
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training or trained with one ofmy trainers for years and years
and years.
I just, you know, neverparticularly liked them.
That's normal.
I'm sure I've gone places wheresome of the staff or whatever,
they don't like me.
Like we're not going to likeeverybody.
But I do think it's criticalthat we support and love
everybody, which means that youare doing what is best for the
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individual.
Like there might be people thatare just, you know, hard to
like.
I mean, you know, I mean, theycome in, they're cranky, they
complain a lot, um, you know,they they they're a little too
unmotivated, you know.
Um, I don't know.
Maybe they have like veryoutspoken political beliefs that
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go against my belief, or maybethey have outspoken religious
beliefs, you know, who knows?
I mean, people just might saythings that you're just like,
uh, this person.
I mean, that's gonna happen, andthat's okay, but it's not okay
to not care about their progressand care about them as your
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client.
I think that's really hard forsome trainers to get.
Like, how do they supportsomebody if they don't
particularly like somebody?
I do think that has been kind ofan, I don't know if it's a um an
immaturity thing I've seen withsome trainers, or maybe it
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they're just not cut out for it.
But they tend to like really,really jive with people they
jive with personally, but thenthey don't at all with people
they don't.
And, you know, I don't know thatto me, that's not professional.
I mean, there's always gonna bean element of I just can't work
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with that person.
And I don't.
I mean, there's gonna be that,but I mean, sometimes somebody's
just not gonna have the type ofpersonality that you would like
to go have coffee with orwhatever.
And that's okay.
But I've seen some trainers andthey're really inconsistent,
like they're gonna have a ton ofenergy for the people that they
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jive with or like.
Like they're gonna be lit up,they're gonna be fired up,
they're gonna be excitable,they're gonna smile more,
they're gonna spot more, they'regonna say more encouraging
things.
But then if they're working withsomebody that they don't jive
with over and over, they don'tdo that.
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And that's to me, that's like aboundary issue.
Like they don't know how to beprofessional.
Um and as a trainer, I think youreally have to have that in your
heart, you know, almost like theservant mentality, so to say.
Like there are plenty of people,like I said.
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I mean, there are people, gosh,you know, probably even today.
What time is it for me?
11:35 for me.
So it's still pretty early inthe day.
I'm sure I had a client or two Ididn't necessarily jive with or
like particularly.
I mean, it's possible, but Iknow that my training
methodology doesn't changebecause I want to support them.
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There might be people that Iabsolutely don't agree with what
they do in their personal lives.
Like maybe they're just, youknow, I don't know, not the most
responsible parents in theworld, or, you know, um just
have different belief systems Idon't have.
Or, like I said, they'repersonally obnoxious or loud or
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attention-seeking, whatever itmight be.
I still want to celebrate theirfitness successes with them.
And I think that's really,really important because when
we're supporting our clients, oryou are supporting your
accountability partner or yourworkout partner, like that is
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ultimately what you aresupporting.
And people need that.
We want to celebrate our fitnesssuccesses, even if we don't 100%
agree with them per se.
Like, you know, maybe as atrainer, you've been trying to
get your client to work more onflexibility, and you're really
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pushing them to work on it more,and they don't seem to do it as
much as you think they should,but they have a win somewhere
else, like they finally do 15push-ups or something.
Well, you still want to supportthem, you still want to be
there, you go.
I mean, that's moving in theright direction.
I say that all the time withpeople.
It's like we're moving in theright direction.
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I'm working with a guy now, andum, you know, he he's uh he's a
hard worker, and I love workingwith him and he sees all kinds
of success.
And um, his latest goal is hereally wants to improve his
pull-ups.
I mean, at first he just wantedto be able to do one or two, and
now he's at like five or six.
So I said by the end of themonth, you know, maybe we hit
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eight.
But like when he gets one morethan last time, like that's a
huge success.
And we want to support that.
I mean, that's just validanyway.
Like, I think that's super coolanyway.
So that's kind of easy tosupport.
But even if it wasn't, we stillwant to support it.
Because what I try to get sometrainers to understand, like
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some that I've known through theyears, is like their success is
your success.
It's our success.
So we want to support that.
Like, even if, again, the personand you don't see eye to eye in
some areas of life, if they'relosing weight under your
tutelage, it is also yoursuccess.
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You want to support that.
And I just think that being asupportive trainer or
accountability partner is worthso much.
It's it's worth that weight ingold, so to say.
I mean, you know, I was talkingabout a little bit of the, I
don't know, call them cynical,negative, you know, where we
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don't always like everybody, butthat is such a small part, you
know.
Now I want to focus on whathappens most of the time.
And that is, you know, youreally make great working
relationships with people whenyou've been doing this as long
as I have.
I mean, I have had clients havekids, very young kids, babies,
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when I first started trainingthem, and now these babies come
to the gym.
I mean, that's crazy to me.
Like, that's the kind ofsupport, you know, you get to
know your clients really, reallywell.
You you forge great professionalrelationships with them, you
know.
I mean, gosh, we're likebartenders in many ways, you
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know.
We hear all kinds of differentstories from people, you know,
people will vent, people willneed advice.
There are some things, you know,we we shouldn't ever compromise
our scope of practice and giveadvice on, but that doesn't mean
we can't listen and besupportive.
I mean, sometimes it goes such along way to just listen to
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somebody and say, I get it, Iget it, you know.
Well, you know what?
We're here for you.
You know, keep showing up to thegym, and you know what?
You know, you're gonna feelbetter when you work out.
I mean, that kind of support isso important.
I mean, people are people andhumans are humans, so there's
going to be different thingsthat go on in people's lives,
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and it is so important tosupport them.
I mean, I've had people, youknow, start with me in their
early 70s and then work out withme until they passed in their
late 90s.
You know, this has literallyhappened.
It's like you get to know themso well and support them through
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so many different things.
And it is so critical to havethat friend at the gym, you
know, that person that you lookforward to seeing.
I shared it in my book, but likeall through my teen years and my
early 20s, I mean, really allthe way through, I always had a
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workout partner.
Like your workout partnerbecomes almost like the second
most important partnership inyour life, you know.
I don't know, some might saythey're they're most important,
you know.
I wouldn't say that, but youknow, it it's so important.
Like that workout partner getsto know you.
They know when you're going tobasically um quit, you know.
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Like I've been doing this solong, I can read people's
mannerisms.
Like I know exactly when they'regetting ready to stop on a set
when I know they have four morereps in them.
They they change something intheir grip or they change their
breathing a little bit or theychange their tempo.
Like, I know.
Like some people literally letout like audible cues where I
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know what they're going to do.
And that workout partner isthere to help you through that
because we all need that littlebit of a push.
And it was so critical for me tohave that support waiting at the
gym.
You know, whether it be I gotthere first and waited for my
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partner, I can remember uh, youknow, a good friend.
I'm I'm still good friends withhim to this day.
My my friend Jim Moore, youknow, he uh he does all kinds of
great work out there and he hasstayed in shape all these years,
you know.
And when we were in our 20s, wedid our first bodybuilding show
together and we worked out at agym in Daytona Beach called
World Gym.
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And I can remember most of thetime I think I would get there
before him.
I think I lived a little closer,and uh I would go upstairs and
and sit on the life cycle andwait, you know, and just be
doing my cardio before he gotthere.
And you can see the front doorwhen people walk in from up
there.
So I'd always be sitting upthere and be like, oh, there he
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is, you know.
Oh, cool.
All right, Jim's here, you know.
It's a good feeling.
And I'm sure, you know, he feltthe same way if he got there
before me.
But it's like knowing you'regonna meet somebody really helps
you get there.
And knowing you're gonna meetsomebody you like and that's
there to support you, and you'rethere to support them really
makes a difference.
It just makes getting out thedoor so much easier.
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I train a couple ladies who um,you know, they they run with a
group of four or five peopleevery Tuesday, Thursday, and
Saturday.
And I know they feel the sameway about their running
partners.
Like they get there really earlyat like 5 or 5 30.
And, you know, they know they'regonna be there, they know
they're gonna be there tosupport each other through their
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goals, through the, you know,through the running, through the
grinding.
And it just makes it so mucheasier to get there.
So if you don't have that, Ireally suggest you look for it.
Look for somebody that's anaccountability partner, somebody
you can walk with, somebody youcan run with, somebody you can
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go to the gym with.
You know, if you have thebudget, a personal trainer that
can fill that role for you,because it really, really,
really is absolutely going tohelp you.
I know that I need it myself.
We all need it.
So, you know what?
Get out there and get yourself agood old workout partner,
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workout friend, and takeadvantage of that relationship
that's out there for you.
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Welcome to There is a Method to the Magnet.
My name is Rob Maxwell, and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal training.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sFitness Program, and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really worked and mostimportantly why did it work.
Thanks to the name, there is amethod to the magnet.
(00:24):
Before I get started today, letme thank Jonathan and Lynn
Gilded of the Gilding Group ELTPros.
They are committed to providingthe highest level of customer
service in home sales.
Why don't you give them a shoutand figure out what your home is
worth?
386-451-2412.
(00:46):
Hello everybody.
Coach Rob here.
I don't know what time you arelistening to this, but good
morning, good afternoon, goodevening, whatever time you're
listening to it.
I'm told a lot of people listento it on the way to the gym, or
sometimes when they're at thegym.
So that absolutely works.
(01:07):
That's a time that I listen to alot of podcasts as well.
Sometimes when I'm doing mycardio, sometimes when I'm
driving in, and uh sometimes Ilisten to my own podcast.
I want to uh listen to itcritically and see what we can
do better.
So um, anyway, glad you'relistening.
(01:27):
Glad you are attempting to getmore physically well and improve
your lifestyle, because that'sthe biggest part of all this.
It's not a temporary thing, inmy estimation, as far as living
the healthier lifestyle.
It is about trying to exerciseevery day, if not almost every
(01:49):
day, or I should say almostevery day, if not every day,
trying to make the best foodchoices you can make each and
every day.
I mean, it truly should be a newlifestyle, or hopefully
something that appeals to you tomake it a new lifestyle and not
just a temporary thing.
You know, we're closing out theyear, unbelievably.
(02:13):
We're in December now, and uh,you know, soon everybody's gonna
be making their New Year'sresolutions and the gym fills
up, and people start talkingabout it, talking about weight
loss.
And, you know, in my 30 plusyears of doing this, uh, I can
share with you that almost thathas never been a success as far
(02:36):
as people saying they're gonnathey're they have a uh
commitment to lose, say, 10 or15 pounds or whatever, call it a
resolution, you know, call itwhat you want, and then they
either don't do it or maybe theydo do it, and then they put the
weight back on.
So really it's about trying tocatch that healthy lifestyle to
(02:59):
the best of your ability.
It doesn't have to be aperfectionistic lifestyle, just
a good, healthy lifestyle, whichis, I think, very attainable for
everybody.
All right, so that's my littlemini rant.
Now let's get into the subjectof the day, which is going to be
(03:20):
getting support from yourworkout partner or trainer or
accountability partner.
So by now, I hope you havepicked up my new book, Training
for Life.
And uh, as I've said already ina podcast, I'm cleaning up a
(03:43):
couple of the errors that Ifound in it.
Uh, not throwing the editingcompany under the bus, but uh
they did mess, I think, 10things up I sent back.
So they are fixing that becauseI'm a bit of a perfectionist and
I didn't like it.
And uh they are fixing it, buthopefully you can see the forest
through the trees if you caughtany of it and see the main point
(04:05):
of the book, which is that uh wehave a big, big, big activity
problem in this country.
Only 20% of our population aretaking the advantage of the
benefits of exercise.
So that means that only 20% aredoing the 150 minutes per week
of aerobic exercise plus the twodays of strength training.
(04:29):
I mean, 80% of the people arenot doing that.
That is a big problem.
Even if someone didn't clean uptheir diet, although that's
really hard not to do when youstart exercising.
Studies have found that just byexercising alone, you start to
(04:50):
make better food choices.
It's just kind of evolves thatway.
But even if you didn't, youstill get the benefits of
exercise.
And that 150 minutes per weekplus the two days of strength
training equates to about 1.8%of your week time wise.
So clearly there is a problem.
(05:12):
Why aren't people reallycommitting to that?
Do they not believe it?
Do they think it has to be somuch more?
Is it still not worth it tothem?
Um, somebody told me today asthey were warming up on the bike
at the gym.
They asked me my thoughtsbecause a uh a very well-known
(05:35):
public figure, which uh tends tobe in the news quite often, and
some of the things that we hearis just ludicrous.
But this is one of them whereapparently I didn't hear this,
but he had said he doesn'texercise because he believes we
only have a limited amount ofenergy, so he doesn't want to
(05:56):
use it up.
Um, if anybody's listening tothat, just know that that is
completely ridiculous.
And obviously, that's just anexcuse for being lazy in this
situation.
Um and there's no truth to it.
There used to be people that ranaround and said the same thing
about heart rate, that yourheart only has so many beats in
a lifetime.
(06:16):
So if you elevate your heartrate unnecessarily, you are
going to die younger.
Okay, these things, people arenot true.
So if we're really believingthat the complete ludicrous
stuff, I mean, I don't know.
I don't think you'd be listeningto this podcast, but you know,
who knows?
Anyway, it is not true.
(06:36):
So the first part of my book, Italk about what the problems
are.
And um, you know, a lot of it islack of education in the
trainers that are out there kindof pushing different things.
There is an ignorance among thepopulation believing what they
think they have to do.
There is the myth of time,meaning people think they don't
(06:59):
have enough time.
There is the myth of distance,people think that uh, you know,
that they have to go too far toexercise, which I'm trying to
dispel absolutely is not true.
There is the, you know, thebelief of a possible laziness
gene in human beings, which theyreally haven't been able to
(07:22):
show.
And so I discount that one in mybook.
But there is a theory called thethrifty gene theory, which
essentially means that we savesome of our energy so we can uh,
you know, kill our food, so tosay.
So this would have been moreapplicable way, way back when we
were hunting for our own food.
But there is some belief in thethrifty gene theory as far as
(07:45):
maybe it relates to exercise,but most likely not, regarding
that.
So, and then I get into the meatand the potatoes of the book,
which is what are the solutionsto these alleged problems?
And one of them isaccountability, as I've talked
about.
Another one is being pushed ormotivation, which I talk about.
(08:09):
Another one is education.
So a solution is to actuallyeducate the people so they know
what to do and know what not todo.
Another one, and that's the oneI'm going to focus on today, is
support.
And then finally, one that I'vealready covered is the problem
(08:29):
of decision fatigue.
So a good trainer oraccountability partner will help
people with that because studiesshow that the more decisions
somebody has to make, the lesslikely it is that they want to
make another one.
So, in other words, they don'tgo to the gym because they're
thinking, I don't know what todo, I'm not sure what to do, I'm
(08:50):
not sure what I want to do.
So, having your trainer or anaccountability partner helps
that because they kind of makethe decisions for you or help
you make them.
All right.
But today I'm gonna focus onsupport.
That is a big part of personaltraining.
Like as a trainer, there's a lotof variables you need to have.
(09:13):
And some of it is learning andeducation, meaning I believe
there should be a level ofeducation involved.
I mean, ideally, a bachelor'sdegree or master's degree.
I personally have a master'sdegree.
To me, it was very, veryimportant to become educated in
that.
I think it's important, but notnecessarily critical.
(09:37):
I do think it's critical to havethe proper certification.
So, or in some states, theproper licensing.
I do think that is very, veryimportant.
There are only fourorganizations that are
accredited.
Um, so I do believe it'simportant to have one of them.
I believe it's important to haveexperience.
(09:59):
I always used to tell studentsthat I used to teach when they
wanted to be personal trainers.
I used to tell them, look,you've got to be your first
client.
That's where the experiencebegins.
You have to know yourself whathas worked for you.
Now, that is not enough all byitself.
(10:22):
There are too many trainers outthere that that's all they have.
They've had some luck or someexperience with success with
themselves.
And when I say luck, I don'tmean that in a bad way.
I just mean like they have shownsome success with themselves,
and that's great, but thereneeds to be more than that to
know how to work with otherpeople.
(10:42):
You do need a scientificfoundation, and you do need
otherly experience with that.
So, you know, just having it byitself is not enough, but I do
think a trainer needs it.
Like for me, that's where Istarted.
I started working out at apretty young age.
(11:03):
I was a late teen.
I got into it really heavily,like 1920, early 20s.
I mean, I was real into it doingsome bodybuilding.
Um, it was my lifestyle.
I trained every day while goingto college.
Like it was a big, big part ofmy life.
I was my first client.
Like I knew how to work out.
(11:23):
Like I knew my way around aweight room.
I knew my way around a gym.
And I think that's really,really important.
Now, for me, it wasn't enough.
I felt like I needed to get morescientific training.
So when I had a uh, you know, anepiphany and decided I wanted to
leave the psychology fieldworking as a counselor and get
(11:46):
into it, I wanted to getspecific education.
So I went back for my master'sbecause I already had a
bachelor's in psychology.
So for me, it was reallyimportant to do that.
And then I went on and got mycertification, and I built a lot
of experience through the yearsof being a personal trainer.
So I think that's the foundationof success with a trainer.
(12:10):
But like the big thing I want totalk about today is the support
factor.
I think you also, as aneffective trainer, need to have
a lot of empathy and compassionand a willingness and a desire
to support your clients.
You know, it's easy to start tolike some of your clients.
(12:34):
And you might find that funnyand go, don't you like all of
them?
No, and that's not overlycritical.
Like, you're not gonna alwayslike all of your customers.
I would say that through 30years, I've liked almost all of
them.
I don't know, 80%.
And there's been 20% or so, youknow, some that uh I kept
(12:58):
training or trained with one ofmy trainers for years and years
and years.
I just, you know, neverparticularly liked them.
That's normal.
I'm sure I've gone places wheresome of the staff or whatever,
they don't like me.
Like we're not going to likeeverybody.
But I do think it's criticalthat we support and love
everybody, which means that youare doing what is best for the
(13:23):
individual.
Like there might be people thatare just, you know, hard to
like.
I mean, you know, I mean, theycome in, they're cranky, they
complain a lot, um, you know,they they they're a little too
unmotivated, you know.
Um, I don't know.
Maybe they have like veryoutspoken political beliefs that
(13:45):
go against my belief, or maybethey have outspoken religious
beliefs, you know, who knows?
I mean, people just might saythings that you're just like,
uh, this person.
I mean, that's gonna happen, andthat's okay, but it's not okay
to not care about their progressand care about them as your
(14:07):
client.
I think that's really hard forsome trainers to get.
Like, how do they supportsomebody if they don't
particularly like somebody?
I do think that has been kind ofan, I don't know if it's a um an
immaturity thing I've seen withsome trainers, or maybe it
(14:30):
they're just not cut out for it.
But they tend to like really,really jive with people they
jive with personally, but thenthey don't at all with people
they don't.
And, you know, I don't know thatto me, that's not professional.
I mean, there's always gonna bean element of I just can't work
(14:52):
with that person.
And I don't.
I mean, there's gonna be that,but I mean, sometimes somebody's
just not gonna have the type ofpersonality that you would like
to go have coffee with orwhatever.
And that's okay.
But I've seen some trainers andthey're really inconsistent,
like they're gonna have a ton ofenergy for the people that they
(15:16):
jive with or like.
Like they're gonna be lit up,they're gonna be fired up,
they're gonna be excitable,they're gonna smile more,
they're gonna spot more, they'regonna say more encouraging
things.
But then if they're working withsomebody that they don't jive
with over and over, they don'tdo that.
(16:48):
And that's to me, that's like aboundary issue.
Like they don't know how to beprofessional.
Um and as a trainer, I think youreally have to have that in your
heart, you know, almost like theservant mentality, so to say.
Like there are plenty of people,like I said.
(17:09):
I mean, there are people, gosh,you know, probably even today.
What time is it for me?
11:35 for me.
So it's still pretty early inthe day.
I'm sure I had a client or two Ididn't necessarily jive with or
like particularly.
I mean, it's possible, but Iknow that my training
methodology doesn't changebecause I want to support them.
(17:33):
There might be people that Iabsolutely don't agree with what
they do in their personal lives.
Like maybe they're just, youknow, I don't know, not the most
responsible parents in theworld, or, you know, um just
have different belief systems Idon't have.
Or, like I said, they'repersonally obnoxious or loud or
(17:57):
attention-seeking, whatever itmight be.
I still want to celebrate theirfitness successes with them.
And I think that's really,really important because when
we're supporting our clients, oryou are supporting your
accountability partner or yourworkout partner, like that is
(18:18):
ultimately what you aresupporting.
And people need that.
We want to celebrate our fitnesssuccesses, even if we don't 100%
agree with them per se.
Like, you know, maybe as atrainer, you've been trying to
get your client to work more onflexibility, and you're really
(18:40):
pushing them to work on it more,and they don't seem to do it as
much as you think they should,but they have a win somewhere
else, like they finally do 15push-ups or something.
Well, you still want to supportthem, you still want to be
there, you go.
I mean, that's moving in theright direction.
I say that all the time withpeople.
It's like we're moving in theright direction.
(19:02):
I'm working with a guy now, andum, you know, he he's uh he's a
hard worker, and I love workingwith him and he sees all kinds
of success.
And um, his latest goal is hereally wants to improve his
pull-ups.
I mean, at first he just wantedto be able to do one or two, and
now he's at like five or six.
So I said by the end of themonth, you know, maybe we hit
(19:24):
eight.
But like when he gets one morethan last time, like that's a
huge success.
And we want to support that.
I mean, that's just validanyway.
Like, I think that's super coolanyway.
So that's kind of easy tosupport.
But even if it wasn't, we stillwant to support it.
Because what I try to get sometrainers to understand, like
(19:48):
some that I've known through theyears, is like their success is
your success.
It's our success.
So we want to support that.
Like, even if, again, the personand you don't see eye to eye in
some areas of life, if they'relosing weight under your
tutelage, it is also yoursuccess.
(20:09):
You want to support that.
And I just think that being asupportive trainer or
accountability partner is worthso much.
It's it's worth that weight ingold, so to say.
I mean, you know, I was talkingabout a little bit of the, I
don't know, call them cynical,negative, you know, where we
(20:30):
don't always like everybody, butthat is such a small part, you
know.
Now I want to focus on whathappens most of the time.
And that is, you know, youreally make great working
relationships with people whenyou've been doing this as long
as I have.
I mean, I have had clients havekids, very young kids, babies,
(20:53):
when I first started trainingthem, and now these babies come
to the gym.
I mean, that's crazy to me.
Like, that's the kind ofsupport, you know, you get to
know your clients really, reallywell.
You you forge great professionalrelationships with them, you
know.
I mean, gosh, we're likebartenders in many ways, you
(21:17):
know.
We hear all kinds of differentstories from people, you know,
people will vent, people willneed advice.
There are some things, you know,we we shouldn't ever compromise
our scope of practice and giveadvice on, but that doesn't mean
we can't listen and besupportive.
I mean, sometimes it goes such along way to just listen to
(21:38):
somebody and say, I get it, Iget it, you know.
Well, you know what?
We're here for you.
You know, keep showing up to thegym, and you know what?
You know, you're gonna feelbetter when you work out.
I mean, that kind of support isso important.
I mean, people are people andhumans are humans, so there's
going to be different thingsthat go on in people's lives,
(22:01):
and it is so important tosupport them.
I mean, I've had people, youknow, start with me in their
early 70s and then work out withme until they passed in their
late 90s.
You know, this has literallyhappened.
It's like you get to know themso well and support them through
(22:21):
so many different things.
And it is so critical to havethat friend at the gym, you
know, that person that you lookforward to seeing.
I shared it in my book, but likeall through my teen years and my
early 20s, I mean, really allthe way through, I always had a
(22:43):
workout partner.
Like your workout partnerbecomes almost like the second
most important partnership inyour life, you know.
I don't know, some might saythey're they're most important,
you know.
I wouldn't say that, but youknow, it it's so important.
Like that workout partner getsto know you.
They know when you're going tobasically um quit, you know.
(23:07):
Like I've been doing this solong, I can read people's
mannerisms.
Like I know exactly when they'regetting ready to stop on a set
when I know they have four morereps in them.
They they change something intheir grip or they change their
breathing a little bit or theychange their tempo.
Like, I know.
Like some people literally letout like audible cues where I
(23:30):
know what they're going to do.
And that workout partner isthere to help you through that
because we all need that littlebit of a push.
And it was so critical for me tohave that support waiting at the
gym.
You know, whether it be I gotthere first and waited for my
(23:52):
partner, I can remember uh, youknow, a good friend.
I'm I'm still good friends withhim to this day.
My my friend Jim Moore, youknow, he uh he does all kinds of
great work out there and he hasstayed in shape all these years,
you know.
And when we were in our 20s, wedid our first bodybuilding show
together and we worked out at agym in Daytona Beach called
World Gym.
(24:12):
And I can remember most of thetime I think I would get there
before him.
I think I lived a little closer,and uh I would go upstairs and
and sit on the life cycle andwait, you know, and just be
doing my cardio before he gotthere.
And you can see the front doorwhen people walk in from up
there.
So I'd always be sitting upthere and be like, oh, there he
(24:33):
is, you know.
Oh, cool.
All right, Jim's here, you know.
It's a good feeling.
And I'm sure, you know, he feltthe same way if he got there
before me.
But it's like knowing you'regonna meet somebody really helps
you get there.
And knowing you're gonna meetsomebody you like and that's
there to support you, and you'rethere to support them really
makes a difference.
It just makes getting out thedoor so much easier.
(24:58):
I train a couple ladies who um,you know, they they run with a
group of four or five peopleevery Tuesday, Thursday, and
Saturday.
And I know they feel the sameway about their running
partners.
Like they get there really earlyat like 5 or 5 30.
And, you know, they know they'regonna be there, they know
they're gonna be there tosupport each other through their
(25:20):
goals, through the, you know,through the running, through the
grinding.
And it just makes it so mucheasier to get there.
So if you don't have that, Ireally suggest you look for it.
Look for somebody that's anaccountability partner, somebody
you can walk with, somebody youcan run with, somebody you can
(25:43):
go to the gym with.
You know, if you have thebudget, a personal trainer that
can fill that role for you,because it really, really,
really is absolutely going tohelp you.
I know that I need it myself.
We all need it.
So, you know what?
Get out there and get yourself agood old workout partner,
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workout friend, and takeadvantage of that relationship
that's out there for you.
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