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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to there is a Method to the Madness.
My name is Rob Maxwell and I'man exercise physiologist and
personal trainer.
I am the owner of Maxwell'sFitness Programs and I've been
in business since 1994.
The purpose of this podcast isto get to the real deal of what
really works and, mostimportantly, why things work.
Hence the name there is aMethod to the Madness.

(00:24):
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(00:44):
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Good afternoon, good morning,good day everybody.
How's all my MaxFitters doingout there today?
I'm going to talk to you alittle bit today about the
upcoming MaxFit Games.
We have some time before the2025 Max Fit Games.

(01:12):
They are August 9th at theSunrise Park in Holly Hill, 8 am
same location as last year.
But I wanted to kind of liketalk about it a little bit, a
talk about like what we're goingto do, what we do it for and
all that good stuff.
So I was trying to figure outthe other day with someone just
how many years we've done this.

(01:33):
You know, I think we took abreak a year or two, maybe with
COVID.
Someone thought we've done itnow for like 14 consecutive
years minus the break.
Not really sure.
I kind of wish I knew that, butwe've done it for a long time.
Where it came from is the factthat you know there's a lot of

(01:56):
different fitness events outthere, which is good.
There are bodybuildingcompetitions for those that are
into the muscles and physiquestuff.
There are some powerliftingcompetitions out there For those
that don't know, that is theweightlifting exercises of bench
press, squat and deadlifts.

(02:18):
They're not that common butthey are out there.
And there are CrossFitcompetitions.
Of course there are probablymore CrossFit locations like
places to work out than thereactually are CrossFit games
around here, but there aredefinitely CrossFit games.
And for the endurance-mindedfolks, there is running events

(02:42):
like 5Ks almost every weekendand there are triathlons, there
are duathlons, so there's like alot of stuff which is great,
but what I notice is, outside ofCrossFit, is you pretty much
it's one kind of fitness.

(03:03):
Basically, I see these argumentssometimes over who are the most
fit athletes.
It's really none of those Ibrought up.
In reality, when we've lookedat different numbers and
statistics and how they gaugefitness, which is really really
hard.
Not hard.

(03:23):
How to gauge fitness?
We know that it's a combinationof strength, endurance and body
composition, cardiorespiratoryfitness, mobility power.
So we know how to measure thosethings.
But how do you take a certainathletic group and decide who is
the most overall fit out of it?

(03:45):
And it's hard to do.
But they've tried and theyranked MMA fighters and boxers
right at the top because theyneed a combination of strength
and endurance.
They have ranked professionalbasketball players like up there
in the top two or three, whichI can see, because they do have

(04:08):
to be leaner.
They have to be very strong.
It's not just run up and downthe court and shoot baskets.
You have to be able to box youropponent out, push the defender
off of you and things like that.
So it takes a combination ofendurance and strength, probably
more than any otherprofessional team sport, I would

(04:30):
guess.
So they do rankings and allthat which is kind of fun and
just more or less justinteresting to nerd out on, but
it doesn't do us like a lot ofgood.
So Ivo's kind of wanted to havefitness events that really push
a balanced fitness approach,because I think it's very

(04:51):
important to have a balancedfitness mindset.
You know, I think anything thatgets you out there exercising
and getting healthier is a goodthing.
You know like.
So if you only want to runbecause you want to be a runner
and you used to be a smoker or adrinker and, by the way, that

(05:12):
is very common then great.
I mean, that's obviously betterthan smoking and drinking.
Or if you just want thatactivity, that's great.
If you want to be kind of a gymrat and go to the gym every day
and build up your musclesbecause that makes you feel good
, great, I mean.
Again, there's nothing wrongwith that.

(05:33):
As an exercise physiologist, youknow I look at like maximizing
and you know what's perfectscenario and the best scenario
is to work on all of yourphysical fitness.
I mean that's what's going tolead to your greatest health
outcomes, absolutely, andpersonally I've gone through it.

(05:54):
I mean I've spoken about beforeI talk about it in intros to my
book what got me into physicalfitness was, early on, like I
was really in the bodybuilding.
I mean that was my very firstentrance into physical fitness,
after learning how to eatcorrectly and losing weight, and
then in high school, my firstentry into exercise was via the

(06:19):
gym.
And you know, then it turns outI have genetics more towards
building muscle, so it was justthe right fit.
I mean, it was a great clickfor me.
I mean I just uh, I loved it.
I'd go to the gym, I'd work out, I felt good about myself, I uh
wanted to eventually do abodybuilding contest and then,
many years later, I did so.

(06:39):
Like that was my story.
And then, when I got to UCF andstarted working on my graduate
degree in exercise physiology, Istarted learning so much more
about every aspect of fitness.
I can't remember how many werein our program, but it was
somewhere in the ballpark of,say, 18 to 24 students that

(07:03):
started the graduate program atabout the same time I did, and
me and one other guy was the oddman out as far as strength
training went.
It was, you know, it's kind offunny when you think about it.
Like we literally were like theonly ones that lifted weights
and everybody else was intocardio, like they're really into
running and triathlons,including my professors.

(07:26):
That's really where I firstheard about it.
So I don't know, I thought theywere weird.
Like I'm like what are you guystalking about.
You know what you run you bike,like, why, like we did that if
we had to cut weight we didn'tdo it because we wanted to.
And then you know, likeeverything you get around it
starts to, you know, become moreimportant to you.

(07:48):
Like you start hearing people'sstories and next thing I know
I'm running with those guys.
Next thing I know I want to doa triathlon, next thing I know
that's what I'm doing.
So I did the Easter beach runas my first race and then I did
a couple other 5Ks and then Idid a sprint triathlon and then
really kind of went in thatjourney for a while and ended up

(08:08):
doing a half Ironman, did a lotof sprints like that was the
thing I liked.
I did a lot of half marathons,marathons, all of it.
So like I really kind of likejumped all in.
I still lifted weights.
Like that was still a criticalpart of my fitness training, I
still believed in it 100% and itwas right in the heart in the
middle of my personal trainingcareer.
So I mean, obviously that stillheld value to me.

(08:33):
But I did notice like mentally,like not pushing as hard in the
gym, getting way into the egoside of things of oh, I want to
do, great, I want to competebetter, I want to win my age
group or place in my age great,I want to compete better, I want
to win my age group or place inmy age group, I want to run
this time or that time, and Ithink a lot of people fall into
that.
It's almost like we have to gothrough that journey a little

(08:54):
bit.
I wouldn't say that that'soverly healthy, but there again
are worse things, like drugs andalcohol.
So you know, but you knowthat's just not the healthiest
way to do things.
And I wasn't pushing as hard inthe gym because I felt like the
more muscles I had, the slowerI'd be.
So I backed off there and thenI didn't Like.

(09:15):
Eventually, I think, like mostthings, if we pay attention and
continue on in our journey withhopefully good motives, meaning
we want to be better, we want toimprove, because chasing that,
where I only cared about likehow well I was doing, that ego
thing, it wasn't good for me.
Like I didn't really like who Iwas becoming, I wasn't having a

(09:38):
lot of fun.
That's probably the biggestthing.
Like I remember doing my veryfirst triathlon with a bunch of
UCF students and my professorsand it was like a super
wonderful day.
Like I remember doing my veryfirst triathlon with a bunch of
UCF students and my professorsand it was like a super
wonderful day, like I was realexcited.
I was scared too, like I wasreally afraid I was going to
have a panic attack out the swim, you know, because I'd had a
couple in college and I thought,oh my God, what if you panic

(09:59):
when you're swimming?
I've drowned.
So I had that running throughmy brain and so, honestly, the
biggest challenge for me wasthat like I was way more afraid
of that than anything else.
So I can remember the swim waslast in this one.
I did the really old triathlonat Cypress Gardens and it was a
reverse order, it was a run bikeswim.
So we finished with the swimand I can still remember like

(10:22):
turning the final corner on theswim and realizing I was going
to make it and then swimming upto the dock thing and I was so
proud of myself really, justbecause I was afraid I was going
to have a panic attack, and Idid it anyway and I did it and
so I was so proud of myself andI was like on cloud nine the
rest of the day.
And I can remember one of myfriends who did the race with me

(10:44):
was like hey, go check out howyou did in the age group.
And I looked at her and I saidthey, they scored these things
like I had no idea.
And I really, to this day, wishI still didn't have that idea
because it ruined it for me.
And I did okay in the age group, especially like for my first
one.
I was like pleased and I thinkthat's why she wanted me to see
it.
She, she was like look, you didpretty good.

(11:06):
And I'm like I had no idea thatthey scored these things.
You know, I was just happy tobe a part of it and to do it.
You know, and thankfully itdidn't ruin my attitude yet.
And I remember driving home, Ican still remember like the
music I was listening to.
It was you too, anyway, neitherhere nor there, but it just

(11:26):
shows you, like how powerfulsome things we do are.
And I just felt so good aboutmyself.
And then slowly it got ruined.
Slowly I started chasing beingbetter.
It wasn't good enough to begood enough Now, I needed to be
better and that just ruined itfor me and it got to the point
where I literally just didn'tenjoy it anymore.
So then I got away from it andthen I learned and then,

(11:49):
thankfully, I was able to, manyyears back now, kind of like go
okay, you don't have to be feastor famine with this stuff, you
know, have the best aerobicsystem you can have by doing
cardio Cause again, when I wasbodybuilding there was no cardio
and then have the best muscularphysique I can have and be as

(12:12):
strong as I can be, which again,I wasn't pushing when I was
doing endurance races because Ididn't want to be bigger.
So then I kind of just did someyou know, not as focused
maintenance work and I'm like,no, so many years back now,
thank goodness, had the epiphanyof do both man.
You know who are you racingagainst?

(12:33):
You're not, and I don't reallydo much of that anymore.
I still do a lot of 5Ks, but Ido it, hopefully on my best days
, with different motives.
And I do a lot of strengthtraining because I love it.
I'm back to hitting it as hardas I can when I train as hard as
I can.
That day when I train, meaningI'm just like you, I have days
where I'm not into it but Istill do the best I can.

(12:54):
And then there are days I feellike you know I can do anything
and I still do cardio because Ido love cardio.
That's the thing I love.
Cardio for cardio.
I mean, I love going for a runand just, you know, zoning out
and getting that, you know,conversation with the man
upstairs, and that's what I getout of cardio.

(13:14):
It's the time that I meditate.
I was talking to a client thismorning about that's why I like
to swim.
You know, I'm not a greatswimmer because I'm fairly
muscular.
So I think I know that soundslike an excuse, but it's also
true.
I'm not a great swimmer, I'm anokay swimmer.
I mean, I've swum over a milebefore at a time.

(13:34):
I think that's okay, but it'shard for me.
But I still like it.
Because when I swim, not onlyis it good for me because it's
hard, but I stare at that blackline at the bottom and I can
zone out and I force myself tobe bored, can't play on my phone
, Can't check a text Right,can't scroll social media.

(13:55):
I mean I hope they don't inventa way one day where people are
swimming with their phones?
Hope not, but you can't rightnow.
And so that's good, because itforces me to be bored and I
think sometimes being bored isreally good for us.
So I still do it.
So I love cardio, I lovestrength.

(14:17):
So when I wanted to start theMaxFit Games and this came after
all this starting the MaxFitGames I'm like we need to do
something that challengeseverybody's fitness levels.
You know, mostly for fun.
Like let's just see if therunner wins when they have
calisthenics involved.
Let's see if the real stronggym guy who can crank out a
bunch of pull-ups and push-upswins when they're still running.
Like let's throw everybody inand see who the most balanced

(14:40):
athletes are.
And it's a challenge.
Like you do it and you say, ohman, that was hard.
You know, hopefully kind oflike my experience with my first
triathlon and you know it hasbeen a great thing doing that.
I remember the very first maxfit games.
We had some of the studentsthat I knew, nice kids.

(15:01):
They built a wall for me like abig I don't remember 13 foot,
does that sound right?
But anyway it was pretty high.
Like you'd need help to get tothe top.
Is the whole point of the wall.
I mean some super athletic guys, like some of the basketball
players and stuff that I wasworking with.
I think they can jump to thetop, grab their fingers on the
wall and pull themselves over,but most people couldn't.

(15:23):
So we built the wall on thevery end of the games was you
had to climb the wall, and Iremember my daughter.
So we built the wall on thevery end of the games was you
had to climb the wall, and Iremember my daughter, joanna who
maybe was only 11 or 12, wonthe whole race because it was
right up her alley of being alittle kid that can do these
things.
And then she gets the wall andyou know we had guys at the top
of the wall to help everybodybecause the idea was to get

(15:45):
people over the wall, you know.
So they had a jump and thenpeople would lean over, grab
your arm, help you over.
But like it was right up heralley, so she wins the first max
fit games and, ironicallyenough, angelica, who helps put
on the games, her son Sebastian,won the mail.
So it was kind of cool to seethe kids win.
He was a little bit older thanJoanna, but they were still kids
, he was maybe a teenager andshe was, like I said, 10, 11, 12

(16:07):
, something like that.
But it grew from there and thenevery year we've done different
things.
I, you know, one of myinspirations was what they call
the pump and run, which is anevent that I think.
Well, I don't know if ArnoldSchwarzenegger started it, but I
know, like, at his big fitnessthing he does in Ohio, every
year he has one and it'sbasically a 5K and then either

(16:32):
before or afterwards is a benchpress competition and you have
to press a certain weight basedon your age and weight, so many
times and for however many repsyou get, you take like 10
seconds or 30 seconds off yourtime or something like that.
So I got the inspiration to doit, kind of from that.

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That's kind of what was runningthrough my mind.
I thought, well, this is a goodbalance of strength and
endurance.
And we all went a few of uswent and did one to check it out
.
I think it was in Titusville,it was fun, and so each year
we've done different things likethat.
You know we've had growingpains.
You know I'm a kind of aperfectionist, for those that

(17:14):
know me, so I'll sit there andI'll think I'll come up with the
perfect scoring system that'sthe most fair for everybody, the
most timely, and then, likelast year unfortunately it took
forever I'm like, oh, why do wedo this, why didn't we do this,
and you know type of thing.
But yeah, everybody got throughit and it was a great day, like

(17:35):
you know.
It was fun.
You know, I'm sure peoplesitting around waiting for the
results weren't overly thrilledbecause it was warm, but there
was, you know, essentially nocomplaints.
And every year I believe it'svery important to give back.
Last year we gave to therecovery group that helps out

(17:57):
and helps with overdose andthings like that, and they came
out and they gave us Narcan togive to everybody and we did
Narcan demonstrations how to useit.
So I thought that was extremelyimportant and we gave a check
to them for $500.
The year before we donated Ithink it was a thousand dollars

(18:18):
that because we raised a littlebit more money that year for
Ellen's daughter, leah, who hada cancer diagnosis and thank God
that she's in remission now.
So we raised money for that.
You know, each year I've thoughtof a group that I think you
know would be good, because mybelief system is that I think
it's very important to give back.

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That's just my own personalfeeling.
So this year we're usingSophie's Dog Circle.
Sophie's Circle, oh man, did Ijust butcher the name?
And yet I see it all the timeand I have it on my posters at
the gym already.
Sophie's Circle, but you knowit's a dog rescue that Kathy's
the owner and she has such agreat reputation in the

(19:04):
community.
Kelly, my ex-wife, who was afront runner last year in the
games and she's super fit anddoes well.
You know she speaks highly ofher.
My client, joanne, speakshighly of her, and so I thought,
you know, that's something weneed to do, because if you know
me, you know how much I loveanimals and the poor things are
just, I think, forgotten about,you know too often, and there

(19:25):
are groups out there that justman, it tears me up to, you know
, see what they do and helpthese dogs get homes, and
there's so many good groups outthere.
So they're going to be thebeneficiary this year and you
know, this year I think I'venailed it.
You know I'm going to have.
It's going to be more like relaystyle instead of like doing
these events and then moving tothe next.

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It makes it really hard toscore and not relay.
It's going to be more like a um, a continuous event to where,
an obstacle race style thing.
So the clock never stops andyou have to go to each station
and crank out what you'resupposed to do.
That way the scoring is veryeasy First over the line, and

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then we are going to have ourtypical age group, so we're
going to have over 60.
We're going to have overallmale and female.
We're going to have under 20,so 19 and under.
Then we're going to have 20 to29, 30 to 39, 40 to 49, 50 to 59
, and again over 60.
There are going to beindividuals, so male and female

(20:30):
winners in each group, and thenteams.
If you want to do a team, ifyou're on a team, you have to
take the highest age of theperson on your team to go into
that age group.
So it's going to be that.
So when you finish, you finishit's going to be really easy to
score.
There is going to be running init.
There's going to be what wecall a lunge lane, so you're
going to have to be able to doso many walking lunges.

(20:53):
We haven't determined thenumbers and distances on
everything yet, but, like thewalking lunges might be
something like a hundred yards.
So it's not going to be short,but everything is going to be
doable.
It's probably going to take thewinners 45 minutes to an hour,
so it's definitely going to be aworkout.
It's not like going out for a5k.
I mean, it's not that a 5k isnot a workout, because it is,

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but it's going to be a workoutand it won't be over in 15
minutes.
There's going to be a push-upcircle.
We haven't decided how many yet, but it will be somewhere in
the ballpark of 200 or 300.
So basically, there will bescorers there to help you and
score.
And you know the push-ups gotto count, they got to be legit.
When you get your 200, so tosay, or 200 as a team, you go to

(21:39):
the next station.
There's going to be what I callelbow plank up downs, and that
kind of works your core and yourtriceps.
So think about getting into anelbow plank position and then
lifting yourself to a pushupposition and then back to the
elbows.
So we're going to do that.
There's going to be a couplehundred of them, so, and then
back to the elbows.
So we're going to do that.
There's going to be a couplehundred of them, so those are
rough, ladies and gentlemen.

(21:59):
There's going to be air squats,so you're going to have to do
so many air squats like 300.
You're going to have to be ableto do that.
Then you go to the next station.
There is what else do we havehere?
Oh, we're going to have ourclassic farmer carry again.
That seems to go over well.
And this year last year we didpublic's bags or actually

(22:21):
they're donated to us by halifaxhospital, which was really nice
but grocery bags, um, this yearwe're actually going to get
bags of salt because they don'tbreak and that is pretty like
adl activities of daily livingstyle.
So you're going to have tocarry that probably the same
distance of the walking lunges.
Drop the bags, you're done withthat one.

(22:42):
I know I'm not thinking of acouple here.
I probably should have had thisout in front of me as we did it
.
I know we're going to have likea Frisbee golf at the very,
very end, because we have thesecool Frisbees with my logo on
them.
So you're going to have to thatpart's more for fun.
So basically, it's going to beI don't know a hundred or 200
yards where you start.
At one end you throw theFrisbee I'm sure you know how to

(23:05):
play golf you run up, grab yourFrisbee, throw it again and
then there'll be a garbage canat the very end that it's got to
go in.
So you know that'll be like thefinal event and then you will
run in and I know I am missingan event or so here, but you get
the idea.
So it's going to be a greattime and I really hope everybody

(23:26):
comes out and supports it andsupports Sophie's Circle and the
cause and comes out.
You know I got so many greatsponsors Overhead Door again,
the Gildan Group again.
I mean they're the sponsors forthe podcast and they're the
sponsors for fitness.
I can't appreciate them enough.
We got Cars again.
We have Executive Circle.

(23:47):
We have Pickleball Realty whoelse?
We have Brent's Biscuits, thegreat dog biscuits.
We have Angelica's brother,roman Don't make me try to
pronounce his business, which isin Germany, but he really wants
to support it and it's calledTankstill or something like that

(24:07):
.
I don't know, it's German, butwe appreciate him and I'm sure
he'll listen to this and besomewhat appreciative to the
shout out, even though Ibutchered the name of it.
We have Beach Vision down inNew Smyrna.
So, dr Sullenberger, susanSullenberger, who always helps
us out, and she came to ourevent one year and she supported

(24:32):
us this time.
If I forgot you, I'm just goingto look at the email later and
I'll mention you in the nextpodcast, but we got a lot of
supporters.
I hear we have the new coffeeshop that's across the street
from there Aurora's.
I think that they're almostofficial which will be awesome
because, from what I hear, theyare a fantastic coffee shop.

(24:52):
So it's going to be a lot offun and I really, really, really
want you to come out and do it.
We always give a cash prize andlet me tell you, we give good
prizes, like I ordered themtoday.
We're doing coffee mugs again.
We've got Frisbees.
But back to the coffee mugs.
I mean they're useful andthey're nice.
You know, I mean gosh.
I do some of these races.

(25:13):
I did one over the weekend, Idid a 5k and, for those that
listened to my one podcast,which everybody seemed to like,
that thing got like 70 downloadsbut it was on.
What was wrong with the raceendurance business?
Because so many of them takeyour money and you don't get
anything back.
And I did this 5k over theweekend for Mother's Day Cause.

(25:33):
I like to do that, cause Ithink of my mom, who passed
several years ago, you know, andshe loved to do 5K.
So I like to do a 5K in herhonor.
So I wanted to do one.
It was way over in where was it?
Winter Garden, so closest one Icould find, but anyway, they
had over a thousand people inthere, right, and they did 10
year age groups.
I'm like, are you serious?

(25:54):
Serious, you're so cheap.
You got over a thousand peoplepaying over 40 bucks I think it
was 44 bucks a head and you'reonly going to give out so many
awards.
I mean I don't get it with someof these groups and what I
really don't get is how manypeople continue to give them the
business.
I mean that's the bottom line.
And let me tell you, ever sinceCOVID it's gone downhill and

(26:18):
they blame COVID.
A lot of these race agencies arelike well, the county made us
not do it, we're trying torecoup.
It's like, eh, I don't know man.
I mean I know some people gothit pretty hard, but I know bars
that never came back in thebusiness.
So I don't know, man, I thinkthat's an excuse.
I think races have gone up andthe quality and the service has
gone down and that is never,never the recipe for a

(26:40):
successful business.
So when I put on a race, wedon't do that.
I just don't believe in that.
You know, I get sponsors moneyfor a reason and I get good
sponsors and I get good sponsormoney and it's for a reason.
They know we do a good job.
Like we get t-shirts toeverybody, we get mugs to
everybody.
Like if you don't win youraward, I mean you get a lot when

(27:01):
you leave.
We're having Wawa giving softpretzels.
We're having that coffee placeacross the street.
They're going to be giving outsamples.
We got gift certificates fromrunning elements that are going
to be given out.
Oh, we have Aldi's giving outfood bananas.
We have more coffee from the7-Eleven.
I mean last year we had so muchfood it went uneaten.

(27:24):
One year we had Olive Garden,because of our good friend,
teresa McFerrin, who is thegeneral manager for Olive Garden
, donated the food.
I mean we put on an event and ifyou guys don't show up, you're
stupid because you're going topay $45 for a 5k with a super
like scratchy material shirt.
You're probably, you know,going to be in an age group with

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like 50 people and they'regoing to like not give out
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At some of these races.
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