From the Pantry: Boo Without Goo: Scary Movies for the Squeamish Part 2: 93

In which Carla expands a horror movie project that began as a challenge from her best friend: what high-quality horror movies don't have gore?

Originally broadcast November 9, 2021

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Every work of horror fiction is an exercise and extreme empathy.
It's about falling in love with characters and then staying
with them as they endure the worst. Joe Hill from
Eli Roth's History of Horror. Hi, this is Carla, and
welcome back to There Might be Cupcakes. I am so

(00:39):
grateful that my health is cooperating so I could bring
you a second Spooky season episode so quickly, with a
delightful surprise and rarity. I'm so happy. However, I have
been trying to record this episode since Halloween, but fatigue
has been battling me for his solid week. I feel
like I have either been in the doctor's office or

(01:00):
a sleep since last Sunday. Which this reminds me of
a personalized book that my parents had made for me
when I was a child called Fortunately Unfortunately, and it
was luck followed by mishap throughout the entire book. For example,
Fortunately Carla was able to go skydiving. Unfortunately Carla did
not pack a parachute. Oh I'm exaggerating, of course, though

(01:24):
it did have delightful horror elements. I think about it
every time I have to phrase something in this manner.
Here's a follow up fortunately, Carla, and it's a big one.
I am also so grateful and pleased to announce that
my podcast has been honored by Podchaser in their list
of sixty best podcasts to Discover in November, alongside really

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heavy hitters and podcasters I look up to, such as
Stuff You Should Know, story Time with seth Rogen, and
one of my favorites, Eli Roth's history for Horror Uncut.
I am beyond honored and humbled. I have been floating
on air since well yesterday, when I wrote the script

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a week ago when podcaster tweeted me the list. The
list is in the show notes for this episode. Please
check out all the other podcasts on the list with mine.
Please follow my podcast as well as theirs on Podchaser,
and please leave me a review as well. On Podchaser,
you can leave reviews for individual episodes as well as
for the podcast as a whole. Thank you so much,

(02:28):
and thank you pod Chaser. To further celebrate spooky season
in Halloween, this episode is my second episode entitled Boo
Without Goo Scary Movies for the Squeamish. So I guess
this is volume two. The first in this series is
episode ten and it's linked in the show notes. This
project started a good while ago as a list for
my best friend Joshua, who loves scary movies but is

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not so much a fan of body horror and squish
in general. He likes to read Clive Barker, but doesn't
necessarily want to see it, if you know what I mean.
So I started way before the podcast a list of
safe movies, just as a fun project between the two
of us safe horror. And then when I started the podcast,
it began as a fun idea for an episode, and

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so it became episode number ten with thirty one movies,
and here are thirty one more to celebrate the thirty
first and to celebrate our lifelong goofy friendship. Here's to you,
josh And by the way, this is gonna be thirty
one because there's a bonus movie at the end. But
it's actually gonna be thirty because I screened one right

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before recording because I was a little concerned and there
were squishing it there was goo, so I take it out. Oops.
That's what brain fog gets for you. But I stand
by the rest of them. On here, I promise no goo. Oops.
And it was a good one too. Such a good movie?

(03:57):
Is that just life? Okay? All of these movies, as
well as the ten genital movies mentioned, will be added
to the Letterbox podcast Lits which I Just to Keep
on Moving, which is linked in the show notes. The
website entry for the first episode is also linked in
the show notes. And I hope I introduce you to
some fun movies, and hope I remind you of some

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fun horror movies through your past. Please let me know
if I entice a movie watching night that would just
throw me. All right, here we go. The first movie
on this list, Abandon, is a slow burn horror movie
from two thousand and two starring Believe it or Not,
Katie Holmes and Benjamin Bratt. This is director Steven Gangins,

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and I hope I'm saying his name right. My apologies,
only scary movie. He also wrote the script, and he
wrote Katie Holmes's role with her in mind. The script
is based on the horror novel Adam's Fall by Steven Desmond.
Holmes plays a driven and detached college student who's trying
to put aside feelings about her missing boyfriend played by
Charlie Hunan from Crimson Peak. But he may have returned

(05:03):
to stalker or Hasy. It also stars a nearly unrecognizable
Zooey Deschanel, no Banks and blonde hair. It's amazing how
she changes with no Banks from The Happening, Melanie Lynsky
from The Frighteners and Gabrielle Union from Breaking In. This
movie manages to be truly scary without any bloachhead that

(05:24):
there is suggested violence off screen to just warn you,
it's one of those movies where you swear you saw something,
but you didn't. I promise It's moody and fun, and
I highly doubt you'll see the ending coming. Next up
is a favorite. I was just able to see it
on the big screen again a couple of weeks ago
with my best girlfriend Amy Hi. Amy. Number two is

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nineteen ninety six The Craft, and it was a great
time to be twenty four years old and see that
movie for the first time. Let me tell you it
was directed by Andrew Fleming, and the only other Hornor
movie on his resume is the highly underrated Bad Dreams
from nineteen eighty eight. That one's about a creepy suicide
cult starring Jennifer Rubin from Nightman elm Street three Dream Warriors.

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She played Terran, the badass chick and the Dream Warriors.
And by the way, Bad Dreams is gross, just so
you know. Anyway, the main cast is Robin Touney, one
of my favorites, Ferruza Balk another favorite. Neve Campbell. Note
here I thought her name was pronounced Neve, but then
I just recently watched an extra on my Scream DVD

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and Wes Craven pronounced it Nev, and well, I trust
the master, so I guess it's Nev Campbell. Let me
know if I'm wrong. And Rachel True, who shows up
in another film on this list, as well as Nev's
co star from Screen it'skee Ulrich. Horror fans should recognize
Clift de Young, Sarah's father from other horror films, Doctor Giggles,

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which I need to watch again, Pulse, and the classic
and lovely The Hunger with David Bowie as a vampire.
David Bowie as a vampire. The Craft was written by
the director Andrew Fleming and Peter Fallardi, who also wrote
both versions of Flatliners and the Rob Low version of
Salem's Loot. For those of you who don't know the

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plot of the craft, Sarah moves to a new town
and starts in a new private Catholic school. She then
meets the Strange girls who want her for their covein.
That's right, witches. All four of them want power for
their own issues, but none of them respect it. I
think that's the best non spoiler way to describe it.

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As I said, I watched it in the theater about
ten days ago, m make that about two weeks ago now,
and it completely holds up cultural references and all. It's
intense and unnerving without being gross content warning. However, for
large amounts of bugs and snakes, large amounts punk rock,

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we are the weirdoes. Mister. I knew that the film
had both script consultants and consultants on set to make
certain that actual rituals were not performed accidentally and that
everyone remained safe. The official consultant was witch practitioner Pat Devlin,
but strange events still occurred. I found this interesting tidbit

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on Internet movie database. The actresses were performing a major
rite in the movie, and a fog rolled in and
a flock of bats appeared. The tide also rose dramatically
and unexpectedly, flooding on the candles set up for the
ritual on the beach. The fictitious entity use in the
movie has a very similar name to the Celtic God

(08:37):
of the Sea who no The tremendous flux of the
tide kept happening over and over, interrupting filming, and once
at the climax of the ritual, the power to everything
on set went out. Even Pat Devlin was a little
shook up. You would have had me an unexpected flock
of bats, dudeo. The next movie is an intriguing companion

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to the Crafts, as is the one after this one
triple feature. Perhaps the next two films take some issues
of the craft to college. Number three is The Very
Sexy and the Very Dark Gossip from two thousand. The
tagline is great it can turn you on or turn
on you. It was directed by Davis Guggenheim, no other

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horror movies, but his other works are highly acclaimed documentaries,
including I Am Malala and Waiting for Superman. It was
written by Gregory Pourierre I apologize for that name, Butchering,
who also wrote the script for National Treasure Book of Secrets,
which again isn't horror, but maybe horror Adjacent and Nicholas Cage.

(09:46):
Gossip has a stellar cast Lena Headey from The Purge
in Game of Thrones, James Marsden from Disturbing Behavior of
Very Young Norman, Reta's Bbfaced from Blade two mimic, and
of course The Walking Dead, Joshua Jackson, I Don't Want
to Wait Far Love Stup Over Dead, and Urban Legend,

(10:12):
Eric Bugnos the in from Dolores Claiborne, The Stuff in
Blade Trinity and relevant to My House of Leave series
of episodes. The singer Poe performs in the club in
the movie discussions how urban legends form in sociology class
starts a fire amongst friends, start a rumor and track

(10:32):
it across campus. What could it hurt? Huh? Watching the
issue of trust in a horror movie like this is
fascinating and terrifying. Plus, you know, I love a good
academic horror movie. I love watching people research when there's
stuff on the line. The university used as a setting
in Gossip is the same university used in the horror

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movies The Skulls and Urban Legend, both of which also
starred Joshua Jackson. I Don't Want No Waite Number four
as I said, goes along with the crafting the gossip
in some manner Dangerous Friends at School New Best Friend
from two thousand and two. It's a truly interesting companion

(11:14):
to gossip. Equally attractive cast, especially with the very handsome
Tay Diggs as the police officer, very handsome Day Digs
plus Mia Kershner of The Crow, City of Angels, Black
Dahlia and Thirty Days of Night, Dark Days, Meredith Monroe
from Masters of Horror, Family, Minority Report, and the show
Criminal Minds, Dominique Swain from several low budget horror movies

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and the lead in the nineteen ninety seven version of Lolita,
Rachel True from The Craft, and Scott Barstow from Killing
Mister Griffin, which is based upon the Lowest Duncan novel.
You may also recognize him from Party of Five, which
you did with Nev Campbell of the Craft and of
course Scream. The director, Zoe Clark Williams, only directed one
other movie Around in nineteen ninety seven and has not

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directed a movie since, which is a shame because this
is a fun, tight horror thriller. New Best Friend was
written by Victoria Strauss, who surprisingly also wrote Finding Dory
does keep swimming, doth keep Swimmy. It's hard to talk
about this one without spoiling it. Okay, Basically, there's a

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tight group of popular, rich friends in small southern college.
A poor, awkward scholarship student works to befriend them. A
sociology class is also involved in this one. Manipulation occurs,
and things get really, really dark and creepy. Trigger warning
for rampant drug use should you be in recovery? One
more note, This movie gets a shout out for mentioning

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and showing a tiny clip from my favorite TV show Fame,
probably the only scary movie ever to do so. The
fifth movie on this list is one of the best
horror comedies ever, with one of the strongest cast ever.
It's also the only horror movie I know that has
three different endings, not alternate endings I collective blu rays,

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but actual, official different endings in the theater clue A
nineteen eighty five. It was directed by Jonathan Lynn, who
hasn't done any other horror adjacent movies, but did direct
my cousin Vinny, which made me laugh because I did
not expect that the two youths. It was, however, produced

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by r Queen Deborah Hill, who'd created and produced, of course,
the Halloween movies. The script was written by Jonathan Lynn
and Hard director John Lindas. The movie is based upon
the board game Clue known as Cludo in some countries,
a murderer is committed and in a locked house, the
people left alive have to figure out who did it.

(13:52):
I'm not generally a horror comedy fan, yet this is
one of my favorite movies. It makes me laugh just
thinking about it, and yet it keeps this creepy horror
about it. That's talent. The New England mansion in the
movie was named hill House in honor of Deborah Hill,
who gave us Halloween. Thank you, Queen Deborah. Of course

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there is another great hill House in horror, Shirley Jackson's
the movie based upon that novel, The Haunting of Hill House.
The Haunting nineteen sixty three was on my first Boo
without Goo list, which is linked in the show notes.
As I said, the cast of Clue was first rate
Eileen Brennan, who is in Jeepers Creeper's Pandemonium, which is

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a slasher parody I've mentioned on the website, and the
Hollow a horror movie inspired by the story of Sleepy
Hollow by Washington Irving, The horror Icon, Tim Curry Rocky
Horror Picture Show, It Legend Tales from The Crypt Ritual
and the TV show Criminal Minds. In his episodes of

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Criminal Minds TI, Our Darkest Hour and The Longest Night,
he played a sadistic Zerio kidnapper and was truly terrifying.
The delightful Mandeline con from Young Frankenstein. Christopher Lloyd from
the Piranha Movies, Stephen King and Clive Barker's Quicksilver Highway,

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the Adams Family Movies, and I Am Not a Serial Killer,
the movie based upon Dan Wells horror novel, which both
are the movie and the novel Spectacular. Michael mckeann from
The Eerie Joshua and The Notorious Hider in the House
with Gary Busey as the bad guy, a musty TV movie.
Martin maull from Cutting Class with Brad Pitt and Squeam Cream.

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Jill Scholin, I love that movie. I won it on VHS,
got an upgrade. Love It. Leslie Anne Warren from The
Very Eerie Apology and The Wolf Girl with Tim Curry,
and Last but Not least Howard Hesman from The Mesmerist
based upon on a post short story and that great

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scene in Rob Zombie's Halloween two where he plays Uncle
Meat and he rants about the man in the record
story he owns. Before I move on, I have to
relish in the car trivia from this movie. It ain't horror,
but I have friends and a cool dad that love cars,
and I found out from the Internet movie database that

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this movie used the character's cars to accentuate their gameplay
and to accentuate the time and place of the setting
of the movie. Each car was the correct color for
the player, as in Mustard Head a yellow car, etcetera, etcetera.
So here we go quote the color of each car.

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Character's cars the same color as they're playing piece in
the game, and is introduced as follows. Colonel Mustard drives
a yellow nineteen fifty four Cadillac Series sixty two. Missus
White drives a black and white nineteen fifty MG two convertible.
Missus Peacock drives a blue nineteen fifty two Packard two
hundred Deluxe Club Sedan. Mister Green drives a green nineteen

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fifty one Plymouth Cranbrook. Miss Scarlett drives a nineteen forty
six red Lincoln Continental, and Professor Plum drives a purple
nineteen forty nine Pontiac Stream Winter Station Wagon. The sixth movie, Caveat,
does have blood in one scene, but it is worth
including because it is a terrifying, horrifying movie that feels

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in its own way like seven, but with absolutely no gore. Plus,
it's such an intelligent domestic horror that I just can't
overlook it. I'll describe that scene for you without spoiling
the movie, so you can decide for yourself if you
want to watch it. The movie is Frailty from two

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thousand and one, directed by the greatly missed Bill Paxton.
The script was written by Brent Henley, who also wrote
the film Masters of Horror Family, which Meredith Monroe starreted in.
She was also in number four on this list New
Best Friend, and in the television show Criminal Minds. This
scene in question comes near the end of the movie.

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Someone is murdered off screen. Their murder is hidden by
laundry hanging on a line. Their blood splatters on the
clean sheets hanging. The scene is very brief. I hope
that helps you decide whether or not you're comfortable watching
this movie. The movie is carried by two main actors,
Matthew McConaughey from the Dark Tower and Texas chance onw

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Massacre Next Generation, which is a hoot if you've never
seen it. It was his and renezell Wegger's first movie,
and they both tried to make it go away later
that's a whole different story, maybe a podcast episode. And
Powers Booth from Red Dawn and Cruising, which was directed
by William Freakin, the director of the Exorcist and also

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starring out Pacino. Both Powers and Matthew have such commanding
faces and voices that this movie is an exercise intention.
It's Southern horror at its best. Bill Paxton, the director,
is of course a gift to horror Braindead, Butcher Baker
nightmare Maker, which might be the creepiest incessed horror ever made,

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Club Dread Mortuary, Deadly Lessons, Boxing, Helena, The Terminator, Predator
to Weird Science, and then there's two of the classics,
Aliens and the Vampire Western Near Dark. And then he
also acts in Frailty, playing the Father in perhaps the
most chilling role of his career. The plot is simple,

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a man walks into a small FBI annex office to
tell his story about his brother, who's a religiously motivated
serial killer. His only caveat is that the agent must
listen to his whole story about how it started with
his father, so that he understands, and then he'll take
the agent where he needs to go and then we listen.

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This is intellectual and religious horror at its finest. Sam
Raimi and Stephen King both loved this movie, if that
tells you anything, and that's one of the reasons I
included it. Despite the one scene. Bill Paxson said that
he created the film for multiple viewings. Quote, the first
time you sit through Frailty, you get pulled into the
story kind of subjectively, and there's this whole kind of

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creep factor. But on your second viewing, there's a lot
of satisfaction as there are a lot of clues laid
out in front of the viewer. Number seven is one
of the best for my college years Flatliners nineteen ninety,
the year I entered college. Now a warning, this is
medically based horror, so it will feel gross and so

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it is not for everyone. But you're not seeing anything.
I promise you can't see anything except for a couple
of ivs being started, and it's not up close, so
still heads up for needles. Yes, there is a remake.
It's interesting, but this movie is sublime. It feels like

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a bad dream. It was directed by Joel Schumacher, who
also directed The Lost Boys, eight Millimeter, The Number twenty Three,
The Phantom of the Opera, and Blood Creek. It's the
second on this list, written by Peter Fulardi. The first
was The Craft. Just Like Clue, this cast is outstanding.
Kee for Sutherland from the remake of the Dutch horror

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movie The Vanishing Twin Peaks, Firewalk with Me, Mirrors and Melancholia,
and of course The Lost Boys. Julia Roberts from Mary Riley,
a retelling of Doctor Jekyll and Mister Hyde's story based
upon the Valerie Martin novel, Oliver Platt from Lake Placid
and shut In, Kevin Bacon from Friday the Thirteenth, Tremors,

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stir of Echo's based upon the Richard Matheson horror novel
and the Darkness, and William Baldwin from Virus and Minutes
to Midnight, a rare New Year's Eve horror movie because
so many members and adjacent members of the so called
brat Pack were in the movie. Keeper Sutherland jokingly referred
to Flatliners as the breakfast Club dies in Sane Almo's

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funeral in Fangoria. This movie is hard to describe without spoiling.
Here goes a renegade group of medical students at the
prettiest medical school ever decide to experiment with the edge
of their skills and play with how long they can
each be dead before being resuscitated. They bring stuff back,

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some of their own stuff. Who I think I did it?
Like I said, there is a remix. It's a good movie,
but this, the original is a fabulous, gorgeous movie that
puts the dark and dark academia esthetic Fulardi did a
lot of research on real near death experiences when writing
the script, and for that reason, this movie might trigger

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some people for grief and loss and end of life
issues it might bring up up, so ponder that police
before choosing to watch it. The eighth annext on this
list is from the same year, nineteen ninety Edward scissor Hands.
This is a tremendous movie, but I have to admit
that parts of it meet me a little sad. I'm sensitive,

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but y'all know this after all this time. It's directed
and written by the wonderful Tim Burton, co written by
Caroline Thompson. She also co wrote Tim Burton's Corpse Bride
is The Nightmare Before Christmas and wrote the script for
the Anamals Family movie. This movie is about, in a
way Pinocchio. A real boy is created by a toymaker

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who dies before his hands can be completed, so he's
left with scissor knives for hands. He's then introduced to
the suburbs. This movie plays as a dark yet brightly
lit fairy tale, as many of Tim Burton's movies do.
This cast is also amazing. The cast is also amazing.
This choice, because of the accus against Johnny Depp right now,

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might be controversial, and I understand, but I personally choose
to continue to enjoy his movies, and I understand. If
you don't, please consider the rest of the movies on
this list and enjoy the rest of this episode. As
I mentioned, Johnny Depp plays Edward also from a Nightmare,
elm Street, Sweeney Todd Sleepy Hollow from Hell, and The

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Ninth Gate Winowna Ryder from Bramstoke or Stracula, Heather's Lost Souls,
Alien Resurrection and the show Stranger Things. Diane Weist from
The Lost Boys and Horror adjacent Practical Magic, Anthony Michael
Hall from The New Halloween Kills and a Bucket of
Blood aka The Death Artist, Alan Arkin from another one

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on this list, to which we will discuss shortly, and
the Master of Vincent Price so many movies, the true
King of horror, and he too will show up again
on this list. For those of you who live in
New York City, some of the topiary that were created
in this movie now live at the Tavern on the
Green restaurant permanently. That's so cool. We go from a

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brightly lit fairy tale to a claustrophobic house, from an
entire suburb to just two people. Number nine A Dark
Song twenty sixteen, directed and written by Liam Gavin, who
co directed Mike Flanagainst The Haunting of Bly House, his
take on Henry James The Turn of the Screw. For
most of the movie, it focuses on only two actors,

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Katherine Walker from Dark Touch and the Curse of Audrey
Earnshaw and Steve orm from n Fabric Altar and the Canal,
which I covered in my found footage episode What's Your Motivation, Heather.
This is a major treatise on grief and loss using
the motif of magic and ritual. A woman has lost
someone and is not only suffering from this loss, but

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feels guilt as well. She hires someone trained in the
ancient arts of magic and summoning to perhaps see this
person one more time. They hold up in a special
old house together, which neither must leave in order for
the ritual to work no matter what. Alone in my bedroom,
I actually yelled, oh my God at this movie's big reveal.

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It's beautiful and frightening and explores loss as only the
genre of horror can do. Surprisingly, this ambitious and claustrophobic
movie was shot in only twenty days. I am so impressed.
Unlike the Craft in which Wickan rituals were altered for safety,
I found out the grueling occult ritual in this movie

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is real. It's called the Amber Munn. Let me try
that again, abrah Malyn. There we go operation, and it's
meant to engage conversation with one's guardian angel. Heavy hitters
such as Aleister Crowley have attempted it. I do not
know the results. I'm not sure I want to know.

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Not where Crowley's can see earned One content warning I
had forgotten about. For one of the rituals, one of
the characters drinks a concoction that contains blood. It's not
in your face, and it's not It's not gratuitous, but
just a heads up. From one house holding someone captive

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by grief to another, we go to the Winchester House. Winchester,
made in twenty eighteen, is based upon the Winchester Mystery House,
famously built by Sarah Winchester, who was driven by guilt
from the money earned from the Winchester Gun fortune and
all the people killed by those guns, and the grief
of the loss of her only family, her husband and

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her young daughter. Missus Winchester kept construction going on this
odd house night and day to appease the spirits, driven
by something a psychic told her, and held seances in
especially constructed upper room. I've been to the house and
it's stairway to nowhere and windows in the floors are
truly disconcerting and oddly beautiful. This ghost story, starring Helen Mirren,

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is lovely and spooky and did a great job of
depicting this demented domicile. It's directed by Michael Spirigg and
Peter spirit who both directed Undead and Jigsaw in the
SAU series. It's written by the Spirig brothers and Tom Vaughan.
This is his only horror movie. I have visited this
peculiar house, like I said, and it is truly disconcerting.

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I'll post my photographs on the website once again. We're
trapped in a strange house in House on Haunted Hill
from nineteen fifty nine. There's only nine people in the
whole movie. It feels like a stage play, much like
the next movie on the list actually was. It was
directed by William Castle, the king of gimmicky and highly

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hyped horror movies. He had twelve to his name. An
example was The Tingler, also starring Vincent Price. Just as
this one did. For The Tingler movie, seats were wired
with mild electric shocks of link to Castle's letterbox page
in the show notes, as well as Vincent Price's. The
script for this was written by Rob White, who wrote

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both versions of this movie, both versions of Thirteen Ghosts,
William Castle's Macobb and the Tingler. This fun movie stars
Vincent Price, who was also in Edward scissor Hands and
The Mask of the Red Death from episode seventy one.
He was in fifty one horror movies total Prince Price.
It also stars Carol Ohmart who was also in This

(29:34):
Specter of Edgar Allan Poe and Spider Baby Fighter Baby
Deserves its own episode, plus Elijah Cook Junior from Blackula,
The Haunted Palace, The Night Stalker and Rosemary's Baby, and
Howard Hoffman from William Castle and Rob White's Macob Quite
the cast. A very rich gentleman has bet seven people

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that they cannot spend the night in a notoriously haunted house.
If they can, he pays them money that they all
sorely need. If they can't, they might die. Vincent Prices
at his cheeky and most sadistic best. The exterior of
this particular demented domicile is the Ennis Brown House, designed

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by fame architect Frank Lloyd Wright. It was built in
nineteen twenty four and is located in the Los Fealis
neighborhood of Los Angeles. If you wish to see it
in person, it's listed on the National Register of historic places.
Oh and one more thing. As promised, there is no
gore in this movie at all. However, there's a skeleton,

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and it's a real human skeleton. This was common. It
was cheaper to order a skeleton from a biological supply
house than to have the special effects people make a skeleton.
So that's a thing. As I said, this next one
was a stage play before it became a horror movie.
Number twelve. The Bad Seed was directed by Mervyn Leroy

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in nineteen fifty seven. It was his only horror movie.
It was written by William marsh from his horror novel
of the same name. It starred Nancy Kelly, who was
also in The Storm and The Woman who Came Back,
about a woman who believes she's been put under a
witch's curse, and Patty McCormick, who was in Wes Craven's
Invitation to Hell, as well as Rob Lowe's two thousand

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and eighteen remake of The Bad Seat, which I've not
yet seen. I've seen the nineteen eighty five remakes starring
Blair Brown, David Carradine, David Ogden Steers and Richard Kylie,
with Carrie Wells as the child, this time named Rachel
Penmark instead of Road to Penmark. And it's quite good
as well, and also without Goo. I recommend it. The

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premise is simple, what if you learned that your child
has no conscience? What would you do? There is awful violence,
but is completely off screen and only discussed by the characters.
I found an interesting bit of book related trivia on
the Internet Movie Database. The book wrote I claims to
have won in Sunday School. Elsie Dismore, written by Martha

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Finley in eighteen sixty seven, was about a pious child
who was the complete opposite to Roda, obedient to her
elders to a fault. I checked Project Gutenberg and Finley
wrote an entire series about Elsie at least ten or
twelve books. Elsie goes on to have her own pious,
obedient children who would never act like Roda. A perfect

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little morality play. I love when books are us as
a prop like that in horror movies. And one more
book related note before we move on and Dons Macob
Stephen Kings must read nonfiction treatise on horror, The Bad
Seed is on his list of quote some of the
scariest films ever made. If you're curious, his list is
on page one eighty one. Number thirteen is a nice

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companion to The Bad Seed. I think, and I don't
think that's a spoiler, but I don't think I can
describe this movie any further without spoiling it either. It's
twenty fourteen Gone Girl, directed by the wonderful David Fincher,
who also directed Fight Club seven Zodiac in the Game,
with the script written by the novel's author Gillian Flynn.

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The two leads are Rosamund Pike and Ben Affleck, who
played Buffy the Vampire Slayer and phantoms What do you
do if you find out the people in your life
are not who you thought they were and you have
to clean up their mess? That theme is showing up
on this list several times. It really is the perfect
double future with the Bad Seed. Try them out together

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and enjoy more books is meaningful props. Look in Nick's office.
That's Ben Affleck's character. You'll see Jonathan Franson's Freedom, which
is a novel about marriage, and Michael Chabon's Manhood for Amateurs,
which is a collection of essays on being a husband
and father. Nice touch. The next movie on my list

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is all claustrophobic. The two people involved can't leave the
domestic domicile in question because it's their job. It's ty West,
the Innkeepers from twenty eleven. West, who has directed eleven
other horror movies, most notably The House of the Devil
and the Original VHS, also wrote the script. The two
actors that carry the film are Sarah Paxton, who starred

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in the remake of Last House on the Left, and
Pat Healey, who has been in several horror movies, including
the amazing Starry Eyes and another one later on this
list run. The premise of the Innkeepers is so simple
and fun. These two are employees of the Yankee Peddler Inn,
which is closing. They know if it's haunted history, and
they want to take this last opportunity to do a
paranormal investigation of their workplace. This horror movie is filmed

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at the real Yankee Peddler Inn in Torrington, Connecticut. The
real hotel is actually haunted, and the crew reported having
some experiences during filming. I'm gonna gripe here for just
a minute if you'll indulge me. Tye West is apparently
a friend or fan of Lena Dunhams. I am not

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a fan of Lena Dunhams, and that's all I'll say
about that for now, because this episode's not the place
for my explaining why I feel she's problematic. Anyway, he
places her awkwardly in his horror movies. In the House
of the Devil, she's the voice on the phone twice

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two different people. In the innkeepers, she's shoehorned in as
an annoying barista next door. Now, you could argue that
her character's there to drive Sarah's character back into the
hotel to further the claustrophobia. Okay, but Sarah's supposed to
stay in the hotel. That's her job, so it's not necessary. Basically,

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Lena delivers a five minute monologue about how boys and
dating's annoying and so it's just so annoying, and so
Lena arguably just plays her character for her own TV
show Girls, which is a jarring break in the middle
of an otherwise quietly eerie ghost story. So weird, Okay, gripeover,

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and that's a good point for a break. I don't
normally take one, but this is a long episode for me,
so my apologies but we're gonna take a break from

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one haunted dwelling to another. We go to twenty eleven,
to the Awakening. It was skillfully directed by Nick Murphy
as this first horror movie, and I am super impressed
because there's some unusual and terrifying shots in this film.
The script was written by him and Stephen Bulk, who
wrote the infamous ghost Watch and Gothic, a lovely and

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trippy movie about the quote unquote haunted summer and the
writing of Frankenstein. Directed by Ken Russell, it stars Rebecca
Hall from the recent The Nighthouse from Dorian Gray from
the novel and The Dinner from the novel by Herman Kotch,
Dominic West from Hannibal Rising, also from the novel, and

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Emelda Staunton from both of the Malficiant movies and Amulet. Also.
As I was watching this enchanting movie, I could not
get it out of my head that I knew a
chirpier version of her, one that wasn't wearing the drab
clothing of a boarding school headmistress. And then it dawned
on me. She played backed character in the Harry Potter movies.

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At one character that everybody in the fandom came together
to hate. Once imagined in pink, there was no question
Delores Unbridge The Awakening is a period piece about a
paranormal investigator who debunks She called in to a boarding
school to discover if the haunting is genuine. This movie

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is absolutely terrifying. The slow burn and the atmosphere are riveting.
I had a dream about it. That's how scary it
is and how immersive it is. It's now one of
my favorite haunted house slash demented domicile movies. The scenery
is luscious, and it's an academic movie, one of those

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horror movies where you get to watch an intelligent character
research and learn and figure stuff out. It's gorgeous and chilling.
From one period piece and gloriously odd building to another.
Number sixteen is twenty eighteen's We Have Always Lived in
the Castle. I love this one. Based upon Shirley Jackson's

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novel of the same name, directed by Stacy Passin, It's
co written by Stacy and Mark Krueger, of course, as
well as Shirley Jackson. Mark Krueger also wrote the scripts
for Candyman Farewell to the Flesh, The William Hurt and
Donald Sutherlwin version of Frankenstein and the Dead will tell
the cast playing the Blackwood family is amazing. Taisa Pharmja,

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I stumble on that name. I apologize. Alexandria Da Da Dario,
I'm about in One Thousand Knight and Crispin Glover. Taisa
has been in Final Girls, The Nun from the Conjuring Universe,
and Fifty States of Fright, as well as American Horror Story.
She's an American Horror Story staple. Alexandria has been in

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Texas Chainsaw, We Summon the Darkness, Burying the ex Bereavement,
which is based upon the Chicken Farm murders by Gordon Northcott,
which is a horrifying case that I may cover at
some point, just because it's so unusual and the attic.
Crispin Glover has been in a multitude of strange movies,
but the horror movies he's most known for are the

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Remake of Willard, the Remake of the Wizard of Gore,
and Friday the Thirteenth, The Final Chapter. I'm not going
to spoil the story of this amazing movie or novel
for you, and don't let anyone else number seventeen takes
us back to the present and the Internet. It's Searching
twenty eighteen, mentioned in episode twenty two What's Your Motivation?

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Hather My found footage in Internet Horror episode which is
linked in the show notes. Searching was directed by Aniche Chengatti,
who also directed Run, which is later on this list.
The script was written by a Niche and Sev o'nannan,
who also wrote Run together. It stars John Cho who

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was in the twenty twenty version of The Grudge, Michelle Law,
and Deborah Messing from the Mothmann Prophecies. It's about a
dad whose daughter goes missing and then he learns from
her digital life that she was not whom he thought
she was. That's such a simple premise. This is an
amazing movie. I'm not exaggerating when I say I sat
on the edge of my seat watching it, and I

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paid for it. There was much extra pain menicin ingested
affort towards from my awkward posture. This phenomenal film took
only thirteen days to shoot, but the organization and the
animations took two years. Before shooting, Aniche got together with
the editors and shot a rough cut of himself playing

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all the characters so that everyone on the crew would
know exactly what they were working with. I am so
impressed with the work that went into this. Also, if
you pay really close attention, you'll see a shout out
to another internet horror movie, another one mentioned in episode
seventy two Unfriended. When you first see Facebook appear in

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this movie, you'll see one of Unfriended character's names as
a trending Topicarah Barnes. The next one on this list
is one I've already mentioned, run from last year by
the director and writers of Searching. It starts one of
my favorites, Sarah Paulson from Glass bird Box and the

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television show American Horror Story. I love her so much
and she is terrifying in this movie. It also starts
Pat Healy, who is in other movies in this list,
and Kira Allan is about incredibly close mother and daughter relationship.
The mother cares for the chronically ill and disabled girl
who learns she might not be as sick as she's

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been told. She is how scary to be trapped in
your own home and to not be who you think
you are. Kia Allan, the actress who plays the daughter
and who is on the cover of this episode is
actually paralyzed, who is awesome to me as someone who
is also chronically ill and disabled and a wheelchair user.
There are two shout outs to Stephen King in this

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movie keep your ears open for him. Also, there's a
visual callback to searching in this one look at the
images online for the university. One was used in an
important plot point in Searching. I'll let You Find It.
Number nineteen is Horror in the High Desert, made in
twenty eighteen, which was also mentioned in episode seventy two,

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my found footage episode. It was written and directed by
Dutch Marriage, who also created the horror movies Reaptown in
Fernham and The Dark Hand. It's the found footage exploration
of what happened to a YouTube hiking and nature blogger
that has gone missing after a long distance hike. The
viewer explores the mystery along with a documentary maker, journalists,

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his family members, and his roommates. It's another identity horror,
as we learned that he might not have been exactly
who he presented himself to be. There is suggested goo
in the denouement. You think you see something, but you
don't very creative camera work with off camera violence. I
read on the Internet movie database that this was filmed

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with full COVID protocols in place. If you pay very
close attention, you notice that no two characters appear on
screen together throughout the entire movie. Creative. The next movie
on my list takes us from the mountains to the
in the desert to rule England. It's a classic, and
I highly recommend watching the director's cut. It's nineteen seventy

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three's The wicker Man. It was directed by Robin Hardy,
who also directed The Fantasist from nineteen eighty six and
The Wicker Tree, which I'll talk about in a moment.
The Wickerman, which is a horror classic, was written by
Anthony Schaeffer, who also wrote Hitchcock's Frenzy, and David Pinner,
who surprisingly also wrote the script for the Nicholas Cage

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vercusion of The Wickerman, which I cannot recommend. I haven't
watched it, and I probably won't given all the bad
things I've heard about it. It involves the head cage
filled with bees and Nicholas Cage B and Nicholas Cage
all over the place. Neither of which is subtle, and
the Wickerman's kind of subtle. Shaeffer specifically wrote The Wickerman

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as a response to the gore and violence in nineteen
sixties and early nineteen seventies horror movies. He wanted a
more literate and refined horror movie. That's when he quote
finally hit upon the abstract concept of sacrifice. The cast
was stellar Edward Woodward beyond being a fine actor in general,
his other horror credits were Incense for the Damned aka

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Bloodsuckers and The Appointment, which is kind of a thriller horror.
His foil was the legend Christopher Lee. I'll simply link
his letterbox horror movies in the show notes. They're way
too many, list eighty two in all. Christopher, Sir Christopher Lee,
if you don't mind, loved the script so much that,

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according to the Internet Movie Database, he agreed to appear
in The Wickerman for free, and he considered it to
be one of his best roles. He also paid for
his own press junket out of his own pocket, appearing
anywhere that he was asked. The main actresses were britt Elkins,
who was answer in the Monster Club. What the peeper
saw in Satan's Mistresses an Ingrid Pitt, a staple of

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hammer horror in the House that Drip Blood, Countess Dracula
and the Vampire Lovers without spoilers. The Wickerman also plays
with the horror theme of people not being who they
say they are. Woodward plays an upstanding Christian police investigator
who has been sent to a small island in the
UK to look into the case of a missing child,

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but no one in the island seems very concerned or
very willing to help, or even acknowledging that the child exists,
and he said, way more interested in involving him in
their upcoming holiday festivities. If you enjoyed Midsommar and you
have not seen The Wickerman, you're doing yourself a great disservice.

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One note on content. There is no bloodshed of gore,
but there's implied violence in gore from a distance at
the end, specifically with regards to fire, you do not
see anything. It's all implied, but there's fire. Also, there's
a lot of nudity. I know that's not goo, but

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I just need to mention it. It's pretty rare that
I'm rendered speechless with regards to nudity, but a lot
of boobs, and there's much more nudity in the director's cut,
like Holy Boobs, Batman. Just this isn't without goo, but

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it is not family friendly by an home shot I
found out from the Internet movie database. This is hilarious.
The singer Rod Stewart tried to interfere with the distribution
of The Wickerman when he learned about his girlfriend Brent
Ecklin's nudity in it. Good Gravy, do you think I'm sexy? Indeed,

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a literary note. One of the songs that they sing
in this movie, and this is like a wacky horror
musical in a way, like a pagan musical. One of
the songs that they sing, cornrig Zerbani, was written by
the poet Robert Burns in seventeen seventy five. It's accompanying
music was written especially for the movie. Now about the

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Wicker Tree, which I just learned about researching this episode.
It's Robin Hardy's reimagining of the Wickerman, exchanging the British
police investigator for a Jesus freak couple going into Scotland.
It really sounds fascinating. It's available for free on Voodoo.
I'm gonna watch it and I'll report back on a

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later episode. From one investigator going into a strange land
to another, we go to Insomnia from twenty two, directed
by Christopher Nolan, who arguably the only other horror movie
was Memento. It was written by Eric oh Mercy. I
got apologized for this entry in this episode. The original

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Insomnia was Norwegian. These are Norwegian names. I am not Norwegian.
Here we go. It was written by Eric Scholdberg and
Nicolage Frobinus. I'm sorry who wrote the original Norwegian versin

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in this movie and Hilary Seltz. It stars al Pacino.
I know, I embarrassed myself. It stars al Pacino also
in Devil's Advocate and Cruising, the William Freakin movie I
mentioned earlier. My favorite Robin Williams, whose other horror movies
were One Hour Photo, which I included in the first
Boo Without Goo episode, and Dead Alive and Hillary from

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the Hunt. Sometimes they come back again the Reaping, the
Gift and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In a way, it
mirrors the beginning of the Wickerman. Two detectives are sent
to a strange place. This time Alaska during the period
of the midnight sun to investigate the strange death of
a young girl. There is one trigger warning for this movie,

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a dead dog. There is a website for such a thing,
by the way, it's does thedogde dot com, which is
very handy for horror movies, which you can check before
you watch a movie, and just a heads up as
a lifelong horror watcher, if there's a dog in a
horror movie, he probably gonna get it, sorry to tell you.

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Number twenty two on my list thirty one is a
found footage that, believe it or not, was not included
in my found footage episode. I had a personal Mandela
Effect moment creep myself out. I swore it was, and
I searched the script, and I searched the website and nope,
I was wrong. It's Willow Creek from twenty thirteen, directed

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by the comedian bobcat Goldwait. It's another tight and claustrophobic
film on this list, with the main cast of two
Alexei Gilmour and Bryce Johnson who was in Visions and
Darkness Rising. They play two aspiring actors and documentarians who
were headed into Bigfoot country to film their experience and
hopefully capture some evidence. Say it with me, it doesn't

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go well. This movie also goes along with the seaman
horror that if you poke the bear or in this case,
the Bigfoot, you get hurt. Don't go where you're not welcome,
you know, like that isolated cabin in the woods that
always shows up from the woods to a fairy tale.
Twenty twenties Gretel and Hansel. It was directed by Oz

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Perkins Anthony Perkins from Psycho's Son, and Perkins was also
the director of a couple of other lovely movies that
it didn't make the goo cut, The Black Coat's Daughter
and The Pretty Thing I Am the Pretty Thing that
Lives in the Walls. But they are both lovely and
both worth watching. Absolutely, they just didn't make the go cut.

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Gretel and Hansel was written by Rob Hayes, Oz Perkins,
and of course The Grim Brothers. It starts Samuel Leakey
in his first movie, and Sophia Lillis, who played Beverly
and the two It movies and who was also in
Gillian Flynn's Sharp Objects based upon her novel. It also
starred horror treasure Alice Creech, Silent Hill ghost Story, and

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Stephen King Sleepwalkers. This is a luscious and dark fairy
tale retelling. It's just so pretty and frightening, which is
so rare to be found. Oz Perkins is a great director,
and I'm following his work from now on. I can't
really discuss this movie further without spoiling it. It's gorgeous
and it's dark and it's lovely. If you love where

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the original versions of fairy tales are horrific, you will
love this movie. Number twenty four Take from the Forest
Back Out to the Desert, The Endless from twenty seventeen.
I'm going to read the synopsis from Letterbox from this
one because I don't think I can do better without
spoiling it. Quote. Two brothers returned to the cult they
fled from years ago to discover that the group's beliefs

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may be more sane than they once thought. Directed by
Aaron Moorehead and Justin Benson, who were also in the movie,
the script is written by Justin Benson. Aaron was also
in Contracted Phase two and the seventy eight Slash fifty
two documentary about the Psychoshower scene. The Contracted series is
a gross exploration about contagion. It might be cathartic right

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about now. I enjoyed them before COVID, but there is
most definitely goo, lots of goo. Justin Benson was also
in Contracted Phase two plus Bleed After Midnight and Dementia.
The Endless also starred Cali Hernandez from Blair Witch and
Alien Covenant, Tate Ellington from Sinister two, and Belzebuff and

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lou Temple from twenty three. Different horror movies include Ronnie Zombies, Halloween,
and The Devil's Rejects, as well as television show The
Walking Dead. The Endless is in the same universe and
shares characters with Moreheads and Benson's two thousand and two
horror movie Resolution, which I've not yet seen. The next
movie is an eerie ghost movie with found footage as

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a plot point. It became even eerier when I looked
into it. Lake Mungo from two thousand and eight is
beloved by horror fans. The tagline is if you've never
seen a ghost, look closer. I'll quit the letterbox description
because it has no spoilers. Then I'll go wife into
wife on this movie. So eerie quote. After sixteen year

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old Alice Palmer drowns in a local dam, her family
experiences a series of strange, inexplicable events centered in and
around their home. Unsettled, the Palmers seek the help of
psychic and parapsychologists, who discovered that Alice leads the secret
double life. Once again. You don't know the people you
know is the theme on this list, and in horror

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now are the creepy part. I researched the makers of
this very popular movie. It was directed by Joel Anderson.
It's his only feature length movie, made way back in
two thousand and eight. He also wrote it, and again
it's his only writing credit as well. All of the
main actors in this movie have never acted again or

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have only had one other obscure role. I am beginning
to think Lake Mungo is its own urban legend in
the making. Two thousand and eight was thirteen years ago,
and none of these people have any credits. That's creepy
to me. That's creepy all right. From creepy to creepier.

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The next movie on is on those lists of the
horror movies people can't finish, And the scariest movie is
on Netflix, Etc. Number twenty six is the Spanish horror
movie Veronica from twenty seventeen. It was beautifully directed by
Paco Plaza, the director of the first three movies in

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the REC series, which was mentioned in episode seventy two
What's Your Motivation Heather, as well as the Spanish horror
movies La Abuela, The Grandmother and Roma Santa the Werewolf Hunt.
Veronica was also written by Paco Plaza, who wrote the
scripts for the first three Wreck movies and the American
remake of REC Quarantine, as well as the horror movie's

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second name, El Segundo Nombre. Veronica a rather unique possession movie.
It stars Sandra Essecina as Veronica and the enchanting Claudia Placer,
who also stars in the Spanish language version of Ramsey
Campbell's novel The Influence. Veronica is set in nineteen ninety
one Madrid. She a Catholic schoolgirl, plays with Luigi, board

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with her friends at her home, and then her family
experiences horrific parent activity. But this is different than anything
you've seen before. It's a truly original addition to the
possession subgenre, and yes, according to Netflix Metrics, more people
have stopped this movie than almost any other ever just
a morning. You will feel like this movie's gross, like

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you've seen things you haven't because it's so intense and
it's so craftily filmed. This movie, according to the IMDb,
is based upon true Event. The next movie is one
of the prettiest horror movies I've ever seen twenty seventeen's Marrowbone.
It's just so pretty in that dark academia way, old

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houses in the countryside and dusty books. It's also one
of the most melancholy. Just a heads up, you need
to be in the right mood for this one, a melancholy,
dark academia mood. It was directed and written by Sergio Sanchez.
He also wrote the script for Purgatory and for Gierma
de Toro's Stuff, The Orphanage. It starts the Amazing Anna

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Taylor Joy from The Amazing The Witch, The currently running
Last Night in Soho Split Glass and Robert Eggers's upcoming
version of Nosferatu. Charlie Heaton, who's in shut In and
also in The New Mutants with Anna Taylor Joy and
Mia Goth from A Cure for Wellness and The New Suspiria.

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She played Sarah for my Suspiria series. Check out episode
fifty one Elegant Nastiness and episode fifty three Exquisite Mayhem.
I'll link to them in the show notes. Do not
let anyone spoil maryw Bone for you. Someone does, let
me know and sick me on them. Here's what I
can tell you. A young man is taking care of

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his younger siblings in the creepy old mansion their parents
left them at the best he can. Number twenty eight
is kind of a cheat because it's a series. I
included the first one in the series and the first
Boo without go so I'm gonna include the remainder here.
They're so satisfying and so unnerving without any bloodshed or
anything gross happening. It's the Paranormal Activity series. You know

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how hard I love these movies. Here's the series order
for the non gooy Ones, two, three, four, and Paranormal
Activity The Ghost Dimension. These four movies are truly scary
without any goo. Now, the Marked Ones and the new
one Next of Kin do have some blood. Next of
Ken also has the death of an animal as well

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as some blood. But these four movies that continue the
story of what happened in Katie's house, and why do
not Except for one moment at the end of three
and one moment at the end of four, neither has
any blood or goo. But three and four each has
one moment of let's say, disturbing human contortion without any

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gore involved. They just each last a moment. So just
to content warning hits up. I have not seen paranormal
activity Tokyo Nights, so I cannot speak to it content.
I am, however, excited to see it because the main
character is disabled in a wheelchair. I'll report back once
I've seen it. Coming to the end of my list,

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twenty ninth is twenty eighteens don't leave home and should
be fun for the artists among us as well as
those of you who love urban legends. Basically, without spoilers,
here's the setup. A British Catholic priest who paints portraits
is moved to paint a child in his parish in
the grotto of his church. The next day, she disappears,

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and the image of her disappears out of his painting
as well. Later, an American sculptor is creating a show
based around spooky sites and disasters and gets this priest's
attention for her work of his grotto. It's a quiet
slow burn in this amazing setting. The payoff is so creepy.

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It's directed by Michael Tully, who also wrote the script.
This is his first horror movie, which is really impressive.
Given the amazing atmosphere in setting here, this feels like
the very best of haam Or horror. It stars Anna
Margaret Hollyman, who was also in the horrifying academic horror
movie The Den Laylor Roddy who looks and feels like

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a priest to an incredibly immersive extent. He was also
in The Devil's Doorway, Boys of County Hell and Hunger,
and Helena Breen, who was also in Hunger in The
Devil's Doorway. I love this one because, like the best horror,
it also brings up moral questions. What would you do?
What is the nature of love, of loss, of sacrifice?

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What is the right thing to do? It's fine, intelligent
horror that also manages to be truly scary. My final
the thirtieth is one of the best, starring one of
the best with one of the most evocative titles, Wait
Until Dark from nineteen sixty seven, starring our American sweetheart
Audrey Hepburn. It was directed by Terence Young, who didn't

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direct any other horror movies, but who did direct another
thriller with Audrey Bloodline in nineteen seventy nine. The script
was written by Robert Carrington, Jane Howard Hammerstein, and Frederick Kott,
who wrote the script for Hitchcock's Dial In for Murder.
Alan Arkin was also in this incredibly intense movie, and
he was another one on this list Edwards scissor Hands

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without spoilers. Audrey Hepburn plays a blind woman facing down
sociopaths in her own small apartment. It's another domestic horror
on this list, and another claustrophobic horror movie in this list,
perhaps the most claustrophobic. I Dare you not to scream
out loud at the clemactic moment. Stephen King also included
Wait Until Dark on his list of twenty quote basic

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coursework of films of gut level horror. In his non
fiction work on horror Dons Macobb. Along with The Bad Seed,
he noted that in the first run of Wait Until Dark,
the would turn off all the lights except the exit
signs in the third act of this movie, the little
runner lights along the walkway everything, and that it was
one of the most effective gimmicks ever. Try watching this

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movie at home and complete darkness. This is another don't
let anyone spoil this one for you, please. The payoff
for this one is a delight. Before I go, since
I mentioned Spider Baby, I have to tell you my
Spider Baby story, and so I guess Spider Baby is
number thirty one. Spider Baby is a movie from nineteen

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sixty seven. It's a Lawn Cheney Junior and early Sid
Sid Haig movie. It's about these three demented siblings and
their caretaker that promised their deceased parents that he would
look after them no matter what. Then distant relatives show
up trying to cheat them out of their inheritance. As
you can say about most of horror, it doesn't go well.

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So the day I met Caine Hadder, which I've talked
about on this podcast, I stopped by at a video
and record store on the way and I bought my
special edition of Halloween. It has the TV version on
a separate disc, and I snagged a copy of Spider
Baby as well. I was in a horror mood I
went shopping. I had never heard of it, but the

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cover and the idea of it amused me, as well
as its tagline. The meta story ever told you have
my attention. So I took my goodies up to the
counter and I'm in costume what I can't even remember
because we were going to the horror themed amusement park
to meet Hotter. I can't remember its name. It was
the late nineties in Massachusetts. If anyone knows, please let

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me know. There was a haunted hay ride, a haunt
maze ending in a memorabilia museum. It was very cool. Anyway,
my costume got the young cashier's attention, and then he
saw spider Baby on the counter, and it was on
spider Baby. He crowed in this silly voice repeatedly like
a monster, spider Baby, spider Baby. Then he picked up

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the intercolm and he broadcast it gleefully over the entire store.
Spider Baby, spider Baby. Then he picked up the phone
and punched in an extension, and I heard another branch
of their store pick up spider Baby, spider Baby. He
crowed into the phone and then hung up. Then he
turned to me as if nothing happened and started ringing

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up the movies and said, yeah, I love Halloween. It's
a classic. One of the coolest horror fan interactions of
my life. Dude, if you hear this and you remember
doing that, hit me up to this day. If I
mentioned the movie or even say something about a spider,
I say spider baby in your voice. What you did

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made me very happy. For those of you who leve
lists like I do, here's just the movies from this
episode so you can hunt them down. Abandon two thousand
and two, The Craft nineteen ninety six, Gossip two thousand,
New Best Friend two thousand and two, Clue nineteen eighty five,

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Frailty two thousand and one, Flatliners nineteen ninety Edward Scissorhans
nineteen ninety A Dark Song two thousand and sixteen, Winchester
twenty and eighteen. House on Haunted Hill nineteen fifty nine,
The Bad Seed nineteen fifty six and The Bad Seed
nineteen eighty five. Gone Girl two thousand and fourteen, The

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Innkeepers two thousand and eleven, The Awakening two thousand and eleven.
We Have Always Lived in the Castle twenty and eighteen.
Searching twenty and eighteen, Run twenty twenty, Horror in the
High Desert twenty and eighteen, The Wickerman nineteen seventy three,
Insomnia two thousand and two, Willow Creek two thousand and thirteen,

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Gretelin Hansel twenty twenty, and if you're searching for that one,
Gretelin Hansel is written with the Amber Sand, The Endless
twenty and seventeen, Lake Mungo two thousand and eight, Veronica
twenty seventeen, Marrowbone twenty seventeen, Paranormal Activity two twenty ten,
Paranormal Activity three, twenty eleven, Paranormal Activity four, twenty twelve,

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Paranormal Activity, The Ghost Dimension twenty and fifteen, Don't Leave
Home twenty and eighteen, and Wait Until Dark nineteen sixty seven,
plus Spider Baby nineteen sixty seven. So I hope you
have all had a happy Halloween and made the blessings
of Spider Baby be upon you. Enjoy stuff that much

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and that unabashedly, even in public. I hope this new
list Aboo without Gooo helps the squeamish amongst you, like
my best friend, enjoy scary movies like I do. Before
I go I'm sending out goodies for patrons, magnets, stickers
and cards. If you're not yet a patron, the link
is in the show notes patron's at the one dollar
get ad free episode feed and downloadable scripts and PDF format.

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And I'm sending cards to everyone this go round because
I am so grateful. Be safe. I love you and
thank you for listening. Always and never forget. Pod Chaser
put me on a list with Eli Roth's history of
horror and stuff you should know. I still can't believe it.
Help me remember that if I forget and lose my way,
y'all coming up will be the fourth in the House

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of Leaves Deep Dive series and at least one, if
not two Gateway Horror for Kids episodes, both movies and books.
How to comfortably introduce kids to horror without also introducing
nightmares or, let's face it, the behaviors that might get
them in trouble at school or with less understanding parents
in the neighborhood. I might have a guest friend don

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to chat with me about that a parent in horror
field since my kids are dogs and a cat, and
then of course my usual Victorian Christmas horror episodes, those
seem to be all's favorite. I get the most compliments
about those, and they're fun until then. Spider Baby