June 26, 2025 • 37 mins
The wealth-building landscape is changing dramatically, and those who understand the new rules are positioning themselves for extraordinary financial success. During this illuminating backstage conversation at the Black Wealth Summit 2025, host Cyrus delivers a paradigm-shifting perspective on cryptocurrency, tech careers, and equity that could literally be worth hundreds of millions to those who pay attention.
"When was the best time to plant a tree? 100 years ago. The second best time is today," Cyrus explains, applying this wisdom to cryptocurrency investments. While many feel they've missed Bitcoin's rise, he shares a startling calculation: a $50,000 investment in Bitcoin today could potentially grow to $588 million by 2038 if projections of Bitcoin reaching $1 billion per coin materialize. This single insight completely rewired his wealth-building strategy, shifting his focus from short-term gains to potentially life-changing, generational wealth.
The conversation takes an equally compelling turn when exploring tech careers as pathways to extraordinary wealth. Cyrus reveals that 78% of NVIDIA employees are currently millionaires, with over 50% worth at least $25 million—not primarily through their salaries but through their equity compensation. This understanding challenges the traditional focus on base salary when job hunting, showing how stock options and equity can create vastly more wealth than salary alone. "We're hustling the wrong way," he notes, highlighting how strategic tech career choices can provide three simultaneous income streams: salary, equity appreciation, and cryptocurrency exposure at blockchain companies.
Perhaps most valuable is his clarification of a commonly misunderstood wealth principle: "The average millionaire has seven streams of income." While true, Cyrus explains that most millionaires didn't start with multiple streams—they became wealthy through focused mastery of one or two areas before diversifying. This insight, combined with practical guidance on positioning yourself as a top candidate through domain expertise targeting, reveals why his program "Tech is the New Black" has successfully helped nearly 10,000 people secure high-paying tech careers without requiring degrees or prior experience. Ready to transform your approach to wealth-building? Start by rethinking what you thought you knew about crypto, careers, and creating generational wealth.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When was the best time to plant a tree?
They said it was 100 years agoand the second best time is
today.
And crypto is the same way andby 2038, $50,000 into Bitcoin.
Right now, if Bitcoin hits thatbillion, like what's projected,
that would be $588 million.
That would be over half abillion dollars welcome, welcome
(00:33):
, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
What up d hustle?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
yo we got a full day's worth of podcasting bro we
in miami, we in miami stillstill still so ready to go to
the beach.
You ready to go to the beach?
I'm ready to go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm ready.
We only got about an hour left.
It's still good.
It's still good.
Anyways, as you all know, weare backstage here at the
Blackwell Summit, holding itdown at Florida Memorial
University, which is the onlyHBCU in South.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I've been saying it all day and definitely want to
inspire all of you to getconnected, get plugged in,
because this summit has beenimpactful and we got a special
guest.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Who we got the host of the event?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
No way the one that introduced everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We always got to save the best for last, best for
last.
That's what I'm talking about.
Let's go ahead and say welcomeCyrus to the stage.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What's up, cyrus?
Yo, what's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
My brother, your journey isdefinitely noteworthy, impactful
and, yeah, we're going to jumpright into it.
So, as you all know, audience,I've been pulling speakers off
the stage as they lit the stage.
Come backstage and give us somemore insights.
Cyrus is going to give us someinsights In terms of just how it
(01:35):
was feeling to be a host, right.
So, how did you like the eventand how did it feel being a host
in the event?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It was incredible.
I mean I've been a part of Imean I can't even count how many
events in my life, but this wasthe first time I would say.
Like when I saw the lineup andthen when I saw the order that
the lineup was happening, I waslike, ooh, I understand, I get
(02:03):
it.
What's that guy's name?
Is it that guy on social mediawho's going viral?
He always makes all his shots,his name is Something Shooter.
You have to check out hiscontent.
This guy makes every shot everytrick shot.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
He was laying on the court on the bed and then threw
it all the way to the.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yes, I've seen him yeah, so he has a.
His slogan is I understand itnow?
And so when I when I looked atthe lineup, I was like yo, I
understand what they're doing.
And I mean it was incredible,because usually when I'm at
events, there might be two tothree speakers at the event
where the topic they're talkingabout.
I'm like oh, that's valuable,like I was just uh, I was just
(02:44):
at an event in dubai.
I wasn't hosting, I was one ofthe speakers.
I was at an event in dubai andI felt like myself and one of
the speakers were the onlypeople that were talking about
something that actually mattersyou know, like matters in the
sense of and that's not to putanyone down, but it's like a lot
of people typically talk aboutthings where it's like that's
like already, that's alreadyseen its heyday, that's kind of
(03:07):
like a thing that's kind of deadand gone or something.
It isn't.
It isn't new to the market, itisn't fresh, and so today was
the first time, like everyperson, I looked at the lineup.
I looked at what they weretalking about and then, even
when they came up to speak, theythey dropped more nuggets than
I even expected them to drop.
Yeah, so it was.
It was incredible.
I I truly would say this wasthe greatest lineup that I've
(03:30):
seen, and the topics I mean,from artificial intelligence to
how to monetize your podcast andI make good money from
podcasting and even I got awealth of knowledge from it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, you know to.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, obviously not just ai because it's like
I'm going to be real.
Even when I saw that someonewas going to be speaking about
AI, it's going to sound crazy.
I was actually at first notdisappointed, but I was kind of
underwhelmed at first.
The reason why is because Imean, as you can imagine, I'm at
event after event after eventwhere everyone's talking about
AI, everybody's talking about.
But it was.
This was refreshing, because shetruly was teaching on how to
(04:06):
use it and how to even have aiemployees yeah and and highlight
each of those individualemployees and their duties and
their tasks, and I was okay thatthat is something that I
haven't seen someone actuallyteaching at an event.
Now I know behind the scenespeople teach this stuff, yeah I
don't like man, she's actuallygiven this sauce at the event
and I mean it was justincredible.
I mean, to the person I wasspeaking about about Bitcoin and
(04:28):
cryptocurrency, same thing mythought was oh yeah, I'm an
investor in crypto, I understandcrypto, but the way she was
breaking it down, I, literally,right there on the spot, I
started investing more money.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I said, let me put some more into it.
Welcome to Black Wealth Summit2025, jason Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes, yes, for sure, for sure, and so it's one of
those things where I just can'tsee.
I can't see a world whereanyone left here not making more
money.
It's like the only person.
The only way a person couldcome here and not make any money
is if they just don't doanything.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If they just allow the information which happens.
They just allow the informationto just kind of sit in their
head and they get hyped up.
Yeah, they want to post thatthey were at an event, but they
don't actually apply anything,cause the cool thing about this
event is almost kind of liketake your pick whichever,
whichever.
It's almost kind of like takeyour pick whichever, whichever
speaker and topic and moneymaking opportunity people want
to go after.
(05:28):
It's like all of them are solidfacts, solid picks, no fluff,
no, no hype, no emotion, justjust genuine value.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Facts, facts, and that's the thing that I'm taking
away from it in terms of that,that value that's provided,
because, you are right, wetalked about stocks, we talked
about properties, we talkedabout bitcoin, cryptocurrency,
we talked about ai.
I mean, it's definitely one ofthose feelings, like I walked
away, feeling like I'm levelingup, yeah, like and and the thing
that the reason why we had thebackstage is also highlighting
the things that you need to doactionable, not just come to the
conference and listen, but,like you said, you got to take
action.
So, if you're walking away,you're walking away with a bag
(06:09):
of knowledge, yeah, that areopening up that opportunity for
you to create that pathway tofinancial freedom but, also
building generational wealthyeah big shout out to you now.
When one of the the podcastguests that we had, uh brendan
from the podcast expert, my guy,came in here, he killed it.
He, he, he dropped some gems,so what, what was in terms of
his presentation, his content,that really resonate with you
(06:30):
because you run a well-knownpodcast?
And if y'all don't know, y'allneed to check my guy out for
sure, yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It was a lot of value as to what he, what he's, I
would say one thing that reallystood out to me was, you know,
packaging your content andselling it to the guests,
Because our content is top tieron my podcast Shouts out to my
(06:57):
production team.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Big round of applause .
Speaker 1 (06:59):
To Eric Bates and E-Bates Production.
That being said, time and timeagain it's gotten to the point
now in my podcast that people Imean people are like it's on
their bucket list to be on thepodcast.
I mean, several times peoplehave come on the podcast and
they're like man, this is adream come true.
I always seen that time andtime again and I never even
thought about because when itcomes to you know, I've had
(07:22):
people on a podcast, usuallywhen it's business owners.
Usually when it's businessowners and I know that they're
trying to pitch their businessor their service Is usually when
I've charged and I neverthought about Cause, obviously
we have a large audience.
So usually my mind is justmainly thinking about, okay, the
audience and the content.
(07:45):
I usually just kind of have itbundled together, but kind of
thinking it through the way heput it, I was like, well,
technically we could separate it, you know where, because there
are some people that don't careabout the content.
Yeah, they just want to be onour podcast because they know we
have a large audience andthey're like yo, we're gonna
reach a large audience yeah,yeah but then there's other
people who have a relativelylarge audience already but
(08:07):
they're launching a new business, product or service or they
have it but they need they needtheir the information about
their business or their story orwhat they're doing with their,
their co-founders.
They need that informationrecorded and packaged up so that
way they could have it on theirwebsite, maybe for investors or
(08:29):
maybe as something to post forfor new clients or prospects
that come on their site.
And so, just kind of thinkingit through, that was a piece
that really stuck out to me,where I was like you know, we
could actually kind of separateit where it's we have an a la
carte option, where it's like,hey, you can, you can, you know,
just, you know, literally getthe podcast as well as get the
(08:50):
content.
But now I'm like, well,technically we could kind of
like we could, we could have abundle and we could have it to.
Where it's like what do youactually care about?
yeah because you know, let's say, you only really care about the
interview, you don't reallycare for the content or the
clips.
You're like yo, I just want tobe interviewed and I want y'all
to post it.
Okay, cool, we could break itdown that way.
Or if it's someone that's likeyo, I mean I don't, you could
(09:12):
post it.
I don't care, I just really wantthe interview and I want the
content yeah, you know, becausea lot of people don't either
have production teams or even ifthey get a production team,
they don't even really know howto communicate exactly what they
want.
So that's one of the value addsof a podcast is that usually
the team you know, like eveny'all.
So it's like myself I came inhere, I don't have to think
through anything with theequipment or what's being
(09:34):
recorded or audio.
Ok, how is this going to beedited later?
I don't have to think aboutthose things, and so that's the
ease of someone especially.
So that's the ease of someoneespecially and I'm a person that
knows these things, but it's 10times more complex for a person
that doesn't have my knowledge.
Yeah, so anyway, there's valueon value.
So he broke that down.
That was beautiful.
He did a great job breakingdown the affiliate piece.
(09:55):
That's been something that'sbeen huge for us.
I didn't know he was going totalk about the street interview,
monetizing street interviews.
That's actually a huge piecethat people don't know about.
Yeah, yeah, uh.
So yeah he, he honestly justwent in yeah, he went on that
piece.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
They give him a round of applause.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
And then talk about you knowanother guest that we've had,
you know backstage with rbd ummichelle, uh, talking about
crypto.
Yeah, so how long have you beenin crypto?
Like, uh, you talk about youare diversifying also, straight
up, you know, increasing yourinvestment, but how do you feel
about crypto?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, so crypto is phenomenal.
I would say that I mean, likeeveryone else, you know, we all
wish we got in sooner.
It's like man.
Crypto is one of those spaceswhere it's it's not.
It's like that quote where theysay when was you know?
When was the best time?
When was the best time to planta tree?
(10:48):
They said it was 100 years agoand the second best time is
today.
And crypto is the same same way.
Where in.
Let me say what she said, thatreally blew me away and I knew
this.
It's kind of like sometimes weneed reinforce, like we need
someone to tell us what we know,but when they say it it's like,
it's just like oh duh, like Iknow that, but it's like, why
(11:11):
did I not think about that fact?
and so the statement she saidbecause, in terms of my
investments, um, in crypto, Ihave some.
I have some investments inethereum.
Um, I have some in um xrp is iscurrently my biggest portfolio
is xrp.
I got some in dogecoin and acouple others.
That being said, I actually hadnone in bitcoin, which I know
(11:35):
sounds crazy, but the reason whyI had none in bitcoin is
because I was like I missed thatboat.
Bitcoin is already, you know, amonth and a half ago, the it
was a little over $100,000.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, 108,.
I believe it peaked at.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah.
So in my mind I was like man,what am I about to do?
Am I about to buy $20,000 ofBitcoin, which means I'm only
going to own one-fifth of aBitcoin?
I'm like what is that?
I'm like, no, I want to put mymoney into XRP when it's $2.10.
Xrp when it's $2.10.
So that way, when it goes up to$10,000, like that's the way my
(12:08):
mind is thinking.
But when she just said itsimply, she said, yo, bitcoin is
projected to go to a billiondollars by 2038.
Facts she said that.
My mind thought about it and Iwas like, well, if it's going to
go to a billion, I literally Idid the math right there on the
spot and I was like, yo, okay, Ilooked up how much Bitcoin is
today Today, it's at roughly$85,000 at the time of this
(12:30):
recording and I was like, okay,if I put in let's just say, I
slide in $50,000 into Bitcoinand I'm like, okay, let's say I
shuffle and let's say I'm smoothabout it.
Let's say I shuffle $10,000 amonth into it, or $5,000 a month
if I'm trying to beconservative.
And then either way, let's say,okay, you know, within six to
(12:54):
ten months I would have $, wouldhave 50 000 in it, and let's
say, at that point maybe it'sback at 100 000, whatever.
Either way, I did the math andby 2038, 50 000 into bitcoin.
Right now, if bitcoin hits thatbillion, like what's projected,
that would be 588 milliondollars.
That would be over half abillion dollars.
(13:15):
So I'm not gonna lie like her,her topic it actually.
It actually rewired my, mythinking and my plans like it's.
I never have been at an eventwhere I heard someone say
something and it made me rewiremy plans of of wealth, of how
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I'm gonna become wealthy, and sobecause it's like I'm, I'm rich
right now, but it's like I'mI'm not rich, rich, I'm rich.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
He's good I'm good, I'm real good out here.
I'm blessed.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Uh, I'm way, way further than I ever imagined,
ever in my life I was going tobe financially.
That being said, it's like youknow, in my head I'm like, okay,
well, all right, you know my.
In my mind, my goal is you knowpeople talk about, you know fu
money.
And in my mind, my goal hasalways been okay, how do I get
(14:09):
to a hundred million dollars?
you know, either a hundredmillion dollars or some type of
of business or service where I'mgenerating about 10 million a
month.
I'm like, how do I get to 10million a month?
And it's a really sit back andbe like wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait.
So I just put $50,000 into thisthing.
(14:31):
I could.
I could continue doing all thisstuff.
I'm doing money wise, continueliving life.
And let's say I never get to,you know, let's say I never even
get to like a million a month,cause that's my, my real
benchmark, my real benchmarkgoals.
Okay, I will feel as a, as aman.
This is myself.
Yeah, I will feel proud ofmyself if I get to a million
(14:51):
dollars a month.
That's in my head, that's mygoal, um and so.
But I'm like, wait, even if Idon't hit that, if I just slide
50 000 into this, I couldcontinue doing what I'm doing.
I could hustle and bustle andyo, maybe I get to that in a
month, maybe I get to 10 m's amonth yeah maybe I get to 50.
I mean, who knows what couldhappen, yeah, but it's like what
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a backup plan.
Even even if I don't facts, Icould, even if I don't the back
of my mind, I could be like yoif everything fails and falls
through.
Yo, I'm about to be a half abillionaire either way still
that's.
That's why it messed my head up.
It completely rewired all of mythinking and my plans.
I was like you know what bumpthat I'm about to put fifty two
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hundred thousand dollars inbitcoin.
I'm gonna let it sit and maybe,depending on how it's going, I
might just go ahead and be like,okay, cool, I'll slide an extra
five thousand in every singlemonth ten thousand into every
month and let us do this thing.
So it really just kind of rub,because I never thought like.
My investments into crypto hasalways just been been a sense of
like, okay, it's going up, it'sgoing to be good, maybe it'll
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make me a couple million in mylife, which will be straight.
That's not f you money, yeah,but that's good, that's really
good money.
But I never thought, oh no, I'mreally gonna like make that
something where it's like no,this is how I'm gonna have
wealth.
Until she made and it was sucha simple statement, all the she
she broke so many things down.
It was that simple reality thatjust I I felt stupid that I
(16:19):
didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I was like I feel crazy but, I mean, that's the
wonder, that's the value ofbeing in spaces like this and
being in rooms like this andlearning from people like one
who were here at the blackwealth summit 100 and you are
not lying, because after she hadthat talk, I called her
backstage because you know I'mabout to scooper to the podcast
and I said what you said isgoing to impact people's lives
because if they were listeningthey would catch it.
(16:42):
And the thing is is that shehad a way of explaining it and
this is probably some of thethings that our community has is
like, if it's not explained ina way that we can understand, it
, go over our head.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Or we might be thinking about it, but when
somebody can speak our language,talk the way we talk, like we
was on a podcast and we wastalking about who carries cash,
he's like I gotta carry cash,I'm from chicago, I'm like
mindset wise.
That just connects to me andthat just gives me that insight
and then that allows me toreally receive the message that
she was delivering.
And you are right, um, themindset shift that this
(17:14):
conference has given us.
I hope people will listen.
I hope y'all are tuning in.
Y'all got to check thebackstage episodes because it's
definitely going to give usthose opportunities to create
that long-term wealth.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
We don't want to be rich.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We want to create that long-generation wealth.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Exactly For sure, exactly that's what's up.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Also, I heard you mentioned something about so I'm
off the tech scene.
I used to work at Twitter for agood minute, so you said
something that really resonatedwith me and I know this is in
your lane specifically aboutgetting people into tech.
Getting into the industry.
It's not only just chasing thesalary base salary but finding
ways to get equity, because yougave us some information about
NVIDIA.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, definitely yeah .
So NVIDIA, specifically on whatI said so, nvidia, 78%.
78 of nvidia's employees aremillionaires right now.
They're employees clock in,clock out, w2, whatever.
The 78 are millionaires.
Out of that, 78 over 50 of themare deca millionaires and
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specifically, 50 over 50 of themare worth $25 million right now
.
And so now the question is, why?
Is that?
Well, aside from their highpaying salaries, part of their
total comp?
You know, because people thinkabout salary, but you have to
also consider total compensation, which our community doesn't
(18:34):
think about, even our communitythat's getting into tech.
Don't think about when got myfirst tech job, all my eyeballs
what do we do all our eyeballslook at is like how much I'm
about to get paid how much I'mabout to get paid you know, and
so my eyeballs, because, again,my first time getting in tech,
my first tech job, I still wascarrying over that old mindset
(18:54):
of okay, I see all these numbers, I see all this other stuff,
whatever I don't care about no401k and blah, blah, blah, like
what.
Like you know, I'm at that agenow where I'm starting to care
about that stuff.
But, you know, when you're in,like your 20s and early 20s, hey
trying to stack it up you'relike what?
What the fuck?
We're talking what?
No, I'm good like dental yeahman, I'm good out here.
(19:16):
That being said, I my eye skinpassed it at my first company
and I was, okay, cool, ninetythousand dollars, that's cool.
But it wasn't until I startedhearing my co-workers, who were
predominantly white and asian,hearing them talk about their
stock options and like none ofthem ever were talking about
their salary facts and at firstI was confused of them ever were
(19:37):
talking about their salaryfacts and at first I was
confused, like why are youtalking about this?
And they were like, yeah, I'mgonna do this.
And xyz, my equity I got.
And I was like, why?
But?
But I learned enough to startto realize I say yo, if this is
what they're talking about,there's something about this
that we just never hear about inour community Facts.
And I remember a friend of mineit's kind of like a little bit
(20:00):
of a beeline, but a friend ofmine invited me to one of those
Forex events, and notspecifically I want to separate
it, not specifically Forex, butit was one of the MLM events
that they, of course, wereattaching to Forex at the time.
And I remember when he this wasway before I was in tech.
I remember when he this was waybefore I was in tech.
I remember when he invited meand I looked in the room and it
was probably about 1,500 peoplein the room.
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I looked in the room.
I hate to say this, but it'sthe truth.
I looked around and there weretwo things.
I noticed One I noticed thatEveryone in the room looked like
they were going to court, andwhat I meant by that is none of
them looked like they hadtailored suits.
All their suits looked baggyloose, or they were too tight.
The only people in the room whoactually looked like they had
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money were the people on stage.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So to me.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
That was red flag number one.
I said, okay, you got to.
Yes, a lot of people here.
You know, sometimes people gethype off something.
That's a lot of people.
I'm like, okay, it's a lot ofpeople, but the only people in
here who like they're doing wellare the people that are on the
stage.
That was number one.
The second thing was that I said, look, if, if this is as big a
money making opportunities y'alltalking about, how come ain't
no white people in here?
(21:07):
How come ain't no asians up inhere?
I said I was like, nah, I don'tbelieve this.
So, kind of using that sameframework and that same mindset
is what I was realizing when Iwas in these rooms of these
different tech companies and Iwas like, okay, I'm in rooms now
Hearing these other communitiestalking here, what they talk
about and what their money movesare.
And I was like they keeptalking about this equity stuff
and their stock options.
So I started looking into itand that's when I started
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realizing Like, whoa, yeah, it'scute to have a 110, 140, 50
thousand dollar salary, but I'mlike yo, depending on the
company You're at and dependingon the equity and the way the
Stock is performing, you couldbecome a millionaire.
And that was when it just trulyOpened my eyes and I said yo
we're hustling the wrong way andso shouts out to my homeboy,
(21:54):
Atavion, Atavion, Atavion Tech,on social media.
He's a young dude, still in his20s, and he's either a
millionaire right now or he'sgoing to be a millionaire within
the next few months and that isgoing to perform.
(22:20):
He chooses the company he'sgoing to work at based off of
his prediction of how thecompany is going to perform.
Because he looks at the equityyeah.
He's like, oh, I'm going tojump to that company.
So, because you know we talkabout equity investments, and
it's like, yeah, you can, rightnow, people have to take their
own money and put it into put itinto a company or put it into
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the stock market and index fundS and P 500, whatever.
But it's like if you're at acompany, you don't have to put
your money into it.
The company is giving you stockin equity.
So it's almost like you gettinga six-figure salary and the
bonus on the side is thatthey're going to give you stocks
(23:04):
into their company or equityinto their company.
And so, again going back toNVIDIA the same guy, same
homeboy I'm talking about he hadan option to work at nvidia or
he had an option to work at acompany by the name of ripple.
He chose ripple.
At first he was disappointedbecause he saw what happened
(23:24):
with nvidia.
He was oh man I wish I caughtthat wave too yeah, but you know
, for those that are that areyou know, listening to this, to
this, look up what Ripple ownsthe company he chose to work at
Ripple is the creator of XRP and.
XRP is one of the top performingcryptocurrencies right now, and
(23:45):
so so that's why he's about tobe a millionaire this year
because of again going back tohis stock options that he has
and the the kind of pairedtogether this the equity he has
in his company, ripple, ispaying him.
His, his stocks are paid incryptocurrency.
Wow, so it's.
It's not just so, it's not justequity in a company, that's a
(24:09):
rocket ship yeah the equity isspecifically in cryptocurrency.
Yeah, so it's like literallyhe's, he's, and then, on top of
that, he has a high, six-figuresalary as well so it's like he's
getting the bag from tech, he'sgetting the bag from stock
options and he's getting the bagfrom cryptocurrency just from
working at one company.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Wow, so it's, it's, it's crazy, it's crazy honestly
wow, these pathways to, togenerational wealth and wealth
in general, um, if you are awareof them and can use them, um,
we can get there sooner.
We can get there faster, yeah,but we have to be mindful of it
and also not chasing the wrongthing, like chasing a salary or
a base salary.
It's not the right.
Like when you're telling mehe's looking at not portfolio
(24:53):
for the investment, butportfolio where he's going to
spend his time at becausethey're going to give him that.
That's hard right there.
Yeah, that's hard right therefor sure.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know.
I want to say something else tothat.
The other thing about it that'sthat's amazing is because you
know we hear the quote all thetime that the average
millionaire has seven streams ofincome.
I hear it often andunfortunately, that quote, or
the misunderstanding of thatquote, is a is another reason.
(25:20):
I believe that that's beenkeeping our people back, because
when I go to different eventsnot like an event today, but
usually when I'm, when I'm atentrepreneurial events or
business events, when I meetpeople and they, you know, they
give me their cards or ask themwhat they do they're like oh um,
I'm a real estate investor,also on the tour of business,
also do airbnb, I also do this,also do that.
(25:42):
And I'm like andrew broke, likeyou know, like you're, and
they're like what do you do?
I'm in tech?
And they're like, oh man, butyou're living like this.
Yes, because I have, becauseI'm, I'm locked in with this one
thing.
Yeah, so to clear up the quote,for for people that have heard
it and don't understand it, whenthey say that the average
millionaire has seven streams ofincome, the other part of the
part of it they don't express isthat that's not how they became
(26:05):
a millionaire.
That's the that's themisunderstanding.
The misunderstanding is oh they, the average millionaire has
seven streams of income.
Therefore, in order to become amillionaire, I must have seven
streams of income.
No, no, the average millionairehas seven streams of income.
Therefore, in order to become amillionaire, I must have seven
streams of income.
No, no, the average millionairebecame a millionaire through,
usually one at the max twostreams of income, and then,
once they got to a certain level, yeah is when they started
(26:25):
diversifying, diversifying theirrevenue streams and of course
you know, at that point theyhave enough money.
They could hire a team to kindof lock things in and then
they're able to scale from there.
No-transcript, thin factsversus locking in with one
(26:56):
specific thing.
Now, the reason why I bringthat up, to tie it back into
what I said the irony is that,using my friend as an example
and I can use myself as anexample as well, but that's the
beauty of when you're at a solidcompany where, it's like now,
you are technically gettingdifferent streams of income but
it's from you working at onecompany.
So it's not you doing three orfour different things, it's
(27:17):
literally you working at onecompany.
They pay you a high salary, sothat's one stream of income.
They give you amazing stockoptions within the company as
well.
That's your that, and that'sthe second stream of income as
well, and so it's just it's it'sdope.
Honestly, that's what's up,that's what's up man.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You're dropping some gems.
Give him another gem right.
Too much gems, the wholeconversation won't be just, you
know, so I should have done thewhole conference.
What are you talking?
About shoot, not just a host.
I need my guy up there tellingus his knowledge, but yo, we're
coming to the end of ourconversation here.
It's an opportunity definitelyto plug in any resources and
things that you have, so tell usa little bit about what you got
going on.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, man.
So for those that are notfamiliar, so I'm the founder of
Tech is the New Black.
We are the largest tech careerand tech business podcast in the
world, not largest black, we'rethe largest, which is dope.
We actually found that outbecause we saw the Forbes top 10
list and my team was all theForbes top 10 list of tech
podcasts and I looked at it andI'm like we're larger than all
(28:18):
of them combined and so we werelike we hit up Forbes and we
were like, yeah, y'all need tonext year, y'all need to get
this.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, let me go do some fact checks For real.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And so, but, that being said, we've helped several
thousands of people get in theindustry.
Somewhere near 10,000 Peopleget tech careers Without degrees
or experiences being necessary.
That being said, since then, wehave launched Scale in Tech,
which is Essentially on thefront end.
It seems as if it's a boot camp, but we actually have something
(28:49):
that's called Job PlacementAssistance, because our platform
we're blessed with a very largePlatform with a large network,
mainly through our podcast.
Our podcast has given us a lotof deep relationships.
We have a lot of relationshipswith recruiters and hiring
managers whose companiesactually are hiring yeah, yeah
so with our job placementassistance, what a lot of people
don't know when it comes togetting, when it comes to
getting jobs, especiallyhigh-paying jobs, you know
(29:11):
people oftentimes say like, oh,I'm applying all these companies
, no one's hiring or no one'sinterviewing me.
What people don't realize isthat when these companies are
getting applications especiallythe larger companies I'm even a
mid-sized company today whenthey are opening up applications
for a role or they're openingup a role and they're getting
applications, they look atapplications based on certain
(29:35):
sequences yeah uh, sequencenumber one when.
Let me actually ask y'all reallyquickly when a when a company
puts up a job posting, who doyou believe applications they
look at first?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
so, um, I, I think and this is kind of from just
experience- is that they lookinternally yep, that's accurate
they look internally.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right, do you know what they look at then
after that?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
um, I would say that it would be uh, referrals yes,
yeah, and then after that afterreferrals would be um, I would
say the recruiters, um networkin terms of who they can reach
out to or services that they'reusing.
Yeah, so exactly, I'm gettingan A plus here.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So the recruiter, the recruiter piece that sometimes
could be looked at as likeinternal, as internal referrals.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Almost on the same level.
So, yeah, so most people.
The reason why most peoplearen't getting any opportunities
, even for an interview isbecause they're definitely not
an internal referral, but on topof that, they're not an
internal employee.
But on top of that, they'realso not an internal referral.
But then the third piece isthat they are not a top
candidate for the role.
(30:50):
Now people don't even know howto actually make sure they're a
top candidate.
People typically think that, ohwell, I have these skills, the
company's hiring for it, sotechnically I'm a, I'm a top
candidate.
And that's not true at all.
People don't understand how toleverage their transferable
skills and their domainexpertise at the same time.
So, for example, if someonewants, if someone has a
(31:12):
healthcare background background, but let's say they're looking
to get into a tech sales role,for example, that's low-hanging
fruit Tech sales role.
Typically, what I see is thatthey will go to any type of tech
sales opening, which is okay,but it's like yo, you have this
(31:32):
healthcare background.
You know there are a lot ofhealth tech companies Facts.
If the health tech companiesare hiring for a tech sales role
, you could be a top candidatebecause you not only have the
skills that they're looking for,but you have the expertise
within that health care field ofwhat they're looking for as
(31:54):
well.
So now you outrank everyoneelse because from your resume,
your cover letter, your LinkedIn, if everything shows you within
that domain, now you outrankeveryone.
And now the recruiters are likeoh yeah, so you super qualified
.
You don't just have the skills,you understand the industry
that you're even going to beselling.
(32:14):
Have the skills you understandthe industry that that you're
even going to be selling to, soyou stand out so those are
things that people don't look at, but one of the things that we
have.
So, of course, we have a lot oftrainings to teach people, no
matter what their background is,on how to actually sniper mode
find the companies they're a topcandidate for yeah and that's
one of the reasons why we'vebeen able to help so many people
.
But but on top of that, throughour network with recruiters and
hiring managers, we have the jobplacement assistance.
(32:36):
We're on the back end.
The recruiters and hiringmanagers' companies are mass
hiring, they're taking ourgraduates of our program and
they're providing not justinternal referrals into their
company, they're actually doingcoaching on how to actually win
the job through the interviewprocess, literally breaking down
the steps of the interview,telling them okay, um, this is
(32:57):
what they're looking for culturewise.
These are the questions you'regoing to get in the interview.
These give this answer likethis, like breaking down
everything.
Now, of course, I want to beclear they're doing this because
the people we're sending them,the people that do our program,
they're already qualifiedknowledge wise, correct?
it's just again, that gap thatpeople are missing, yeah, is
that they get in the interviewand even if they know how to
(33:20):
answer a question, it's theydon't know how to answer it the
specific way the company wants.
Right, you know it's.
It's almost like you knowdating.
You know, if you're dating awoman where every woman likes
flowers, so let's say yourgirlfriend, your wife, whoever
let's say she's like, oh, youshould give me some flowers.
Okay, she'll be happy if youget her roses.
(33:42):
But eventually she's gonna tellyou hey, by the way, lilies, I
prefer lilies over roses.
So roses are the generalstandard.
But when you get specific tothe woman, she will tell you
what she's, what shespecifically likes.
Yeah, likewise are thesecompanies where you can, you can
(34:03):
do, because we see a lot ofpeople, I see a lot of people
paying for coach over, likeinterview coaching and stuff,
and it's like the interviewcoaching is like knowing they're
going to teach you.
Okay, get a woman roses.
But within our job placementassistance, the recruiters are
teaching people specific to thecompany and they actually get to
choose two companies out of ourlist of companies.
(34:23):
So they get two sets ofrecruiters, two sets of hiring
leaders at the companies thatare training them, and they're
not just.
It goes beyond just the regularfluff of okay, this is how you
answer this question.
No, no, no.
This is how our company likesyou to answer the question.
Answer it like this, with thesespecific words, and so it's
(34:43):
really setting people up forsuccess.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's what's up.
That's what's up, and thank youso much for doing this, because
this part of recruiting I feellike the other side of the table
has been doing this for years,and I've worked in Silicon
Valley, so I've seen a lot ofwhite people.
Asian people and nothing wrongwith my Indian people also.
(35:07):
But the influx of access thatthey got is because they're
getting this insights that youare offering.
And the mind-blowing thing isit's not like I'm not qualified.
I know that I need roses.
I'm bringing roses.
I brought roses the last time,but they didn't tell me that I
need to bring them lilies,exactly they didn't tell me that
if only they told me that yeah,so that service fire.
(35:29):
Give him a round of applause forthat and and if you are looking
for more information, we'regoing to have links in the
description below.
I want you all to follow my guy.
He is on a trajectory that I'vebeen following for a while and
let me tell you, every time Isee you peaking up even more,
peaking up even higher.
So keep doing what you're doing.
My brother.
Keep doing it.
Keep doing it exactly the waythat you're doing it, and do
(35:51):
more of it, because we need tosee it.
Our people need to see it assoon as we see it, it's a game
changer yeah, so cue up themusic d hustle.
We over here supposed to be only15 minutes and my sire's got us
here 35 minutes dropping gems.
My god, my god.
So I want to say, first of all,thank you so much for pulling
up backstage with bobby d, thankyou so much for hosting this
great event.
(36:11):
We're here at the BlackwellSummit 2025 here at Florida
Memorial University, where we atD-Hustle Miami, Miami.
Miami.
He's about to go to the beach.
I got to go take him to thebeach before he gets all upset
Before we leave for our audience.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
How did they find you , in case they need to find you?
Yeah, definitely so.
The platform is.
Tech is the New Black.
We're on all audio streamingplatforms, video, podcasts.
You can see us on YouTube.
I live in South America.
I'm in Colombia and in theDominican Republic a lot right
now.
So actually, I mean, check outour content.
I'm actually going to startvlogging in those different
(36:43):
countries where I'm going to bestreaming, vlogging, answering
questions while people get tosee the culture and get to see
what's going on in thesecountries because again, it's
like it's.
It's cool to make money, but thebeauty is that you know in some
spaces you can live, like me,where you're able to actually
work completely remote, live ina different part of the world,
and when you get in a bag youcan afford to live anywhere,
because it's very few placesthat are as expensive as america
(37:05):
facts.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Keep it up, my brother.
Keep it up.
Big inspiration man.
Uh, definitely keep tuning in.
We got more episodes coming up.
If you you missed anything forthe conference.
If you attend, it was free, wegot you, but if you did not
attend, I need you all to rewind.
Press that rewind button, checkout my guy Cyrus and definitely
holler us here at the TechHustle Like subscribe all that
good stuff, right D?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Hustle.
Yes, sir, All right now.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Holler at your boy it .
When was the best time to plant a tree?
They said it was 100 years agoand the second best time is
today.
And crypto is the same way andby 2038, $50,000 into Bitcoin.
Right now, if Bitcoin hits thatbillion, like what's projected,
that would be $588 million.
That would be over half abillion dollars welcome, welcome
(00:33):
, welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
What up d hustle?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
yo we got a full day's worth of podcasting bro we
in miami, we in miami stillstill still so ready to go to
the beach.
You ready to go to the beach?
I'm ready to go to the beach.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm ready.
We only got about an hour left.
It's still good.
It's still good.
Anyways, as you all know, weare backstage here at the
Blackwell Summit, holding itdown at Florida Memorial
University, which is the onlyHBCU in South.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I've been saying it all day and definitely want to
inspire all of you to getconnected, get plugged in,
because this summit has beenimpactful and we got a special
guest.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Who we got the host of the event?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
No way the one that introduced everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
We always got to save the best for last, best for
last.
That's what I'm talking about.
Let's go ahead and say welcomeCyrus to the stage.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What's up, cyrus?
Yo, what's going on?
What's going on?
What's going on?
My brother, your journey isdefinitely noteworthy, impactful
and, yeah, we're going to jumpright into it.
So, as you all know, audience,I've been pulling speakers off
the stage as they lit the stage.
Come backstage and give us somemore insights.
Cyrus is going to give us someinsights In terms of just how it
(01:35):
was feeling to be a host, right.
So, how did you like the eventand how did it feel being a host
in the event?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It was incredible.
I mean I've been a part of Imean I can't even count how many
events in my life, but this wasthe first time I would say.
Like when I saw the lineup andthen when I saw the order that
the lineup was happening, I waslike, ooh, I understand, I get
(02:03):
it.
What's that guy's name?
Is it that guy on social mediawho's going viral?
He always makes all his shots,his name is Something Shooter.
You have to check out hiscontent.
This guy makes every shot everytrick shot.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
He was laying on the court on the bed and then threw
it all the way to the.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yes, I've seen him yeah, so he has a.
His slogan is I understand itnow?
And so when I when I looked atthe lineup, I was like yo, I
understand what they're doing.
And I mean it was incredible,because usually when I'm at
events, there might be two tothree speakers at the event
where the topic they're talkingabout.
I'm like oh, that's valuable,like I was just uh, I was just
(02:44):
at an event in dubai.
I wasn't hosting, I was one ofthe speakers.
I was at an event in dubai andI felt like myself and one of
the speakers were the onlypeople that were talking about
something that actually mattersyou know, like matters in the
sense of and that's not to putanyone down, but it's like a lot
of people typically talk aboutthings where it's like that's
like already, that's alreadyseen its heyday, that's kind of
(03:07):
like a thing that's kind of deadand gone or something.
It isn't.
It isn't new to the market, itisn't fresh, and so today was
the first time, like everyperson, I looked at the lineup.
I looked at what they weretalking about and then, even
when they came up to speak, theythey dropped more nuggets than
I even expected them to drop.
Yeah, so it was.
It was incredible.
I I truly would say this wasthe greatest lineup that I've
(03:30):
seen, and the topics I mean,from artificial intelligence to
how to monetize your podcast andI make good money from
podcasting and even I got awealth of knowledge from it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, you know to.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
You know, obviously not just ai because it's like
I'm going to be real.
Even when I saw that someonewas going to be speaking about
AI, it's going to sound crazy.
I was actually at first notdisappointed, but I was kind of
underwhelmed at first.
The reason why is because Imean, as you can imagine, I'm at
event after event after eventwhere everyone's talking about
AI, everybody's talking about.
But it was.
This was refreshing, because shetruly was teaching on how to
(04:06):
use it and how to even have aiemployees yeah and and highlight
each of those individualemployees and their duties and
their tasks, and I was okay thatthat is something that I
haven't seen someone actuallyteaching at an event.
Now I know behind the scenespeople teach this stuff, yeah I
don't like man, she's actuallygiven this sauce at the event
and I mean it was justincredible.
I mean, to the person I wasspeaking about about Bitcoin and
(04:28):
cryptocurrency, same thing mythought was oh yeah, I'm an
investor in crypto, I understandcrypto, but the way she was
breaking it down, I, literally,right there on the spot, I
started investing more money.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I said, let me put some more into it.
Welcome to Black Wealth Summit2025, jason Jones.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes, yes, for sure, for sure, and so it's one of
those things where I just can'tsee.
I can't see a world whereanyone left here not making more
money.
It's like the only person.
The only way a person couldcome here and not make any money
is if they just don't doanything.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
If they just allow the information which happens.
They just allow the informationto just kind of sit in their
head and they get hyped up.
Yeah, they want to post thatthey were at an event, but they
don't actually apply anything,cause the cool thing about this
event is almost kind of liketake your pick whichever,
whichever.
It's almost kind of like takeyour pick whichever, whichever
speaker and topic and moneymaking opportunity people want
to go after.
(05:28):
It's like all of them are solidfacts, solid picks, no fluff,
no, no hype, no emotion, justjust genuine value.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Facts, facts, and that's the thing that I'm taking
away from it in terms of that,that value that's provided,
because, you are right, wetalked about stocks, we talked
about properties, we talkedabout bitcoin, cryptocurrency,
we talked about ai.
I mean, it's definitely one ofthose feelings, like I walked
away, feeling like I'm levelingup, yeah, like and and the thing
that the reason why we had thebackstage is also highlighting
the things that you need to doactionable, not just come to the
conference and listen, but,like you said, you got to take
action.
So, if you're walking away,you're walking away with a bag
(06:09):
of knowledge, yeah, that areopening up that opportunity for
you to create that pathway tofinancial freedom but, also
building generational wealthyeah big shout out to you now.
When one of the the podcastguests that we had, uh brendan
from the podcast expert, my guy,came in here, he killed it.
He, he, he dropped some gems,so what, what was in terms of
his presentation, his content,that really resonate with you
(06:30):
because you run a well-knownpodcast?
And if y'all don't know, y'allneed to check my guy out for
sure, yeah it was.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It was a lot of value as to what he, what he's, I
would say one thing that reallystood out to me was, you know,
packaging your content andselling it to the guests,
Because our content is top tieron my podcast Shouts out to my
(06:57):
production team.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Big round of applause .
Speaker 1 (06:59):
To Eric Bates and E-Bates Production.
That being said, time and timeagain it's gotten to the point
now in my podcast that people Imean people are like it's on
their bucket list to be on thepodcast.
I mean, several times peoplehave come on the podcast and
they're like man, this is adream come true.
I always seen that time andtime again and I never even
thought about because when itcomes to you know, I've had
(07:22):
people on a podcast, usuallywhen it's business owners.
Usually when it's businessowners and I know that they're
trying to pitch their businessor their service Is usually when
I've charged and I neverthought about Cause, obviously
we have a large audience.
So usually my mind is justmainly thinking about, okay, the
audience and the content.
(07:45):
I usually just kind of have itbundled together, but kind of
thinking it through the way heput it, I was like, well,
technically we could separate it, you know where, because there
are some people that don't careabout the content.
Yeah, they just want to be onour podcast because they know we
have a large audience andthey're like yo, we're gonna
reach a large audience yeah,yeah but then there's other
people who have a relativelylarge audience already but
(08:07):
they're launching a new business, product or service or they
have it but they need they needtheir the information about
their business or their story orwhat they're doing with their,
their co-founders.
They need that informationrecorded and packaged up so that
way they could have it on theirwebsite, maybe for investors or
(08:29):
maybe as something to post forfor new clients or prospects
that come on their site.
And so, just kind of thinkingit through, that was a piece
that really stuck out to me,where I was like you know, we
could actually kind of separateit where it's we have an a la
carte option, where it's like,hey, you can, you can, you know,
just, you know, literally getthe podcast as well as get the
(08:50):
content.
But now I'm like, well,technically we could kind of
like we could, we could have abundle and we could have it to.
Where it's like what do youactually care about?
yeah because you know, let's say, you only really care about the
interview, you don't reallycare for the content or the
clips.
You're like yo, I just want tobe interviewed and I want y'all
to post it.
Okay, cool, we could break itdown that way.
Or if it's someone that's likeyo, I mean I don't, you could
(09:12):
post it.
I don't care, I just really wantthe interview and I want the
content yeah, you know, becausea lot of people don't either
have production teams or even ifthey get a production team,
they don't even really know howto communicate exactly what they
want.
So that's one of the value addsof a podcast is that usually
the team you know, like eveny'all.
So it's like myself I came inhere, I don't have to think
through anything with theequipment or what's being
(09:34):
recorded or audio.
Ok, how is this going to beedited later?
I don't have to think aboutthose things, and so that's the
ease of someone especially.
So that's the ease of someoneespecially and I'm a person that
knows these things, but it's 10times more complex for a person
that doesn't have my knowledge.
Yeah, so anyway, there's valueon value.
So he broke that down.
That was beautiful.
He did a great job breakingdown the affiliate piece.
(09:55):
That's been something that'sbeen huge for us.
I didn't know he was going totalk about the street interview,
monetizing street interviews.
That's actually a huge piecethat people don't know about.
Yeah, yeah, uh.
So yeah he, he honestly justwent in yeah, he went on that
piece.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
They give him a round of applause.
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
And then talk about you knowanother guest that we've had,
you know backstage with rbd ummichelle, uh, talking about
crypto.
Yeah, so how long have you beenin crypto?
Like, uh, you talk about youare diversifying also, straight
up, you know, increasing yourinvestment, but how do you feel
about crypto?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, so crypto is phenomenal.
I would say that I mean, likeeveryone else, you know, we all
wish we got in sooner.
It's like man.
Crypto is one of those spaceswhere it's it's not.
It's like that quote where theysay when was you know?
When was the best time?
When was the best time to planta tree?
(10:48):
They said it was 100 years agoand the second best time is
today.
And crypto is the same same way.
Where in.
Let me say what she said, thatreally blew me away and I knew
this.
It's kind of like sometimes weneed reinforce, like we need
someone to tell us what we know,but when they say it it's like,
it's just like oh duh, like Iknow that, but it's like, why
(11:11):
did I not think about that fact?
and so the statement she saidbecause, in terms of my
investments, um, in crypto, Ihave some.
I have some investments inethereum.
Um, I have some in um xrp is iscurrently my biggest portfolio
is xrp.
I got some in dogecoin and acouple others.
That being said, I actually hadnone in bitcoin, which I know
(11:35):
sounds crazy, but the reason whyI had none in bitcoin is
because I was like I missed thatboat.
Bitcoin is already, you know, amonth and a half ago, the it
was a little over $100,000.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, 108,.
I believe it peaked at.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah.
So in my mind I was like man,what am I about to do?
Am I about to buy $20,000 ofBitcoin, which means I'm only
going to own one-fifth of aBitcoin?
I'm like what is that?
I'm like, no, I want to put mymoney into XRP when it's $2.10.
Xrp when it's $2.10.
So that way, when it goes up to$10,000, like that's the way my
(12:08):
mind is thinking.
But when she just said itsimply, she said, yo, bitcoin is
projected to go to a billiondollars by 2038.
Facts she said that.
My mind thought about it and Iwas like, well, if it's going to
go to a billion, I literally Idid the math right there on the
spot and I was like, yo, okay, Ilooked up how much Bitcoin is
today Today, it's at roughly$85,000 at the time of this
(12:30):
recording and I was like, okay,if I put in let's just say, I
slide in $50,000 into Bitcoinand I'm like, okay, let's say I
shuffle and let's say I'm smoothabout it.
Let's say I shuffle $10,000 amonth into it, or $5,000 a month
if I'm trying to beconservative.
And then either way, let's say,okay, you know, within six to
(12:54):
ten months I would have $, wouldhave 50 000 in it, and let's
say, at that point maybe it'sback at 100 000, whatever.
Either way, I did the math andby 2038, 50 000 into bitcoin.
Right now, if bitcoin hits thatbillion, like what's projected,
that would be 588 milliondollars.
That would be over half abillion dollars.
(13:15):
So I'm not gonna lie like her,her topic it actually.
It actually rewired my, mythinking and my plans like it's.
I never have been at an eventwhere I heard someone say
something and it made me rewiremy plans of of wealth, of how
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I'm gonna become wealthy, and sobecause it's like I'm, I'm rich
right now, but it's like I'mI'm not rich, rich, I'm rich.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
He's good I'm good, I'm real good out here.
I'm blessed.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Uh, I'm way, way further than I ever imagined,
ever in my life I was going tobe financially.
That being said, it's like youknow, in my head I'm like, okay,
well, all right, you know my.
In my mind, my goal is you knowpeople talk about, you know fu
money.
And in my mind, my goal hasalways been okay, how do I get
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to a hundred million dollars?
you know, either a hundredmillion dollars or some type of
of business or service where I'mgenerating about 10 million a
month.
I'm like, how do I get to 10million a month?
And it's a really sit back andbe like wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait.
So I just put $50,000 into thisthing.
(14:31):
I could.
I could continue doing all thisstuff.
I'm doing money wise, continueliving life.
And let's say I never get to,you know, let's say I never even
get to like a million a month,cause that's my, my real
benchmark, my real benchmarkgoals.
Okay, I will feel as a, as aman.
This is myself.
Yeah, I will feel proud ofmyself if I get to a million
(14:51):
dollars a month.
That's in my head, that's mygoal, um and so.
But I'm like, wait, even if Idon't hit that, if I just slide
50 000 into this, I couldcontinue doing what I'm doing.
I could hustle and bustle andyo, maybe I get to that in a
month, maybe I get to 10 m's amonth yeah maybe I get to 50.
I mean, who knows what couldhappen, yeah, but it's like what
(15:14):
a backup plan.
Even even if I don't facts, Icould, even if I don't the back
of my mind, I could be like yoif everything fails and falls
through.
Yo, I'm about to be a half abillionaire either way still
that's.
That's why it messed my head up.
It completely rewired all of mythinking and my plans.
I was like you know what bumpthat I'm about to put fifty two
(15:34):
hundred thousand dollars inbitcoin.
I'm gonna let it sit and maybe,depending on how it's going, I
might just go ahead and be like,okay, cool, I'll slide an extra
five thousand in every singlemonth ten thousand into every
month and let us do this thing.
So it really just kind of rub,because I never thought like.
My investments into crypto hasalways just been been a sense of
like, okay, it's going up, it'sgoing to be good, maybe it'll
(15:56):
make me a couple million in mylife, which will be straight.
That's not f you money, yeah,but that's good, that's really
good money.
But I never thought, oh no, I'mreally gonna like make that
something where it's like no,this is how I'm gonna have
wealth.
Until she made and it was sucha simple statement, all the she
she broke so many things down.
It was that simple reality thatjust I I felt stupid that I
(16:19):
didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I was like I feel crazy but, I mean, that's the
wonder, that's the value ofbeing in spaces like this and
being in rooms like this andlearning from people like one
who were here at the blackwealth summit 100 and you are
not lying, because after she hadthat talk, I called her
backstage because you know I'mabout to scooper to the podcast
and I said what you said isgoing to impact people's lives
because if they were listeningthey would catch it.
(16:42):
And the thing is is that shehad a way of explaining it and
this is probably some of thethings that our community has is
like, if it's not explained ina way that we can understand, it
, go over our head.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Or we might be thinking about it, but when
somebody can speak our language,talk the way we talk, like we
was on a podcast and we wastalking about who carries cash,
he's like I gotta carry cash,I'm from chicago, I'm like
mindset wise.
That just connects to me andthat just gives me that insight
and then that allows me toreally receive the message that
she was delivering.
And you are right, um, themindset shift that this
(17:14):
conference has given us.
I hope people will listen.
I hope y'all are tuning in.
Y'all got to check thebackstage episodes because it's
definitely going to give usthose opportunities to create
that long-term wealth.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
We don't want to be rich.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
We want to create that long-generation wealth.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Exactly For sure, exactly that's what's up.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Also, I heard you mentioned something about so I'm
off the tech scene.
I used to work at Twitter for agood minute, so you said
something that really resonatedwith me and I know this is in
your lane specifically aboutgetting people into tech.
Getting into the industry.
It's not only just chasing thesalary base salary but finding
ways to get equity, because yougave us some information about
NVIDIA.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah, definitely yeah .
So NVIDIA, specifically on whatI said so, nvidia, 78%.
78 of nvidia's employees aremillionaires right now.
They're employees clock in,clock out, w2, whatever.
The 78 are millionaires.
Out of that, 78 over 50 of themare deca millionaires and
(18:13):
specifically, 50 over 50 of themare worth $25 million right now
.
And so now the question is, why?
Is that?
Well, aside from their highpaying salaries, part of their
total comp?
You know, because people thinkabout salary, but you have to
also consider total compensation, which our community doesn't
(18:34):
think about, even our communitythat's getting into tech.
Don't think about when got myfirst tech job, all my eyeballs
what do we do all our eyeballslook at is like how much I'm
about to get paid how much I'mabout to get paid you know, and
so my eyeballs, because, again,my first time getting in tech,
my first tech job, I still wascarrying over that old mindset
(18:54):
of okay, I see all these numbers, I see all this other stuff,
whatever I don't care about no401k and blah, blah, blah, like
what.
Like you know, I'm at that agenow where I'm starting to care
about that stuff.
But, you know, when you're in,like your 20s and early 20s, hey
trying to stack it up you'relike what?
What the fuck?
We're talking what?
No, I'm good like dental yeahman, I'm good out here.
(19:16):
That being said, I my eye skinpassed it at my first company
and I was, okay, cool, ninetythousand dollars, that's cool.
But it wasn't until I startedhearing my co-workers, who were
predominantly white and asian,hearing them talk about their
stock options and like none ofthem ever were talking about
their salary facts and at firstI was confused of them ever were
(19:37):
talking about their salaryfacts and at first I was
confused, like why are youtalking about this?
And they were like, yeah, I'mgonna do this.
And xyz, my equity I got.
And I was like, why?
But?
But I learned enough to startto realize I say yo, if this is
what they're talking about,there's something about this
that we just never hear about inour community Facts.
And I remember a friend of mineit's kind of like a little bit
(20:00):
of a beeline, but a friend ofmine invited me to one of those
Forex events, and notspecifically I want to separate
it, not specifically Forex, butit was one of the MLM events
that they, of course, wereattaching to Forex at the time.
And I remember when he this wasway before I was in tech.
I remember when he this was waybefore I was in tech.
I remember when he invited meand I looked in the room and it
was probably about 1,500 peoplein the room.
(20:21):
I looked in the room.
I hate to say this, but it'sthe truth.
I looked around and there weretwo things.
I noticed One I noticed thatEveryone in the room looked like
they were going to court, andwhat I meant by that is none of
them looked like they hadtailored suits.
All their suits looked baggyloose, or they were too tight.
The only people in the room whoactually looked like they had
(20:45):
money were the people on stage.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So to me.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
That was red flag number one.
I said, okay, you got to.
Yes, a lot of people here.
You know, sometimes people gethype off something.
That's a lot of people.
I'm like, okay, it's a lot ofpeople, but the only people in
here who like they're doing wellare the people that are on the
stage.
That was number one.
The second thing was that I said, look, if, if this is as big a
money making opportunities y'alltalking about, how come ain't
no white people in here?
(21:07):
How come ain't no asians up inhere?
I said I was like, nah, I don'tbelieve this.
So, kind of using that sameframework and that same mindset
is what I was realizing when Iwas in these rooms of these
different tech companies and Iwas like, okay, I'm in rooms now
Hearing these other communitiestalking here, what they talk
about and what their money movesare.
And I was like they keeptalking about this equity stuff
and their stock options.
So I started looking into itand that's when I started
(21:30):
realizing Like, whoa, yeah, it'scute to have a 110, 140, 50
thousand dollar salary, but I'mlike yo, depending on the
company You're at and dependingon the equity and the way the
Stock is performing, you couldbecome a millionaire.
And that was when it just trulyOpened my eyes and I said yo
we're hustling the wrong way andso shouts out to my homeboy,
(21:54):
Atavion, Atavion, Atavion Tech,on social media.
He's a young dude, still in his20s, and he's either a
millionaire right now or he'sgoing to be a millionaire within
the next few months and that isgoing to perform.
(22:20):
He chooses the company he'sgoing to work at based off of
his prediction of how thecompany is going to perform.
Because he looks at the equityyeah.
He's like, oh, I'm going tojump to that company.
So, because you know we talkabout equity investments, and
it's like, yeah, you can, rightnow, people have to take their
own money and put it into put itinto a company or put it into
(22:43):
the stock market and index fundS and P 500, whatever.
But it's like if you're at acompany, you don't have to put
your money into it.
The company is giving you stockin equity.
So it's almost like you gettinga six-figure salary and the
bonus on the side is thatthey're going to give you stocks
(23:04):
into their company or equityinto their company.
And so, again going back toNVIDIA the same guy, same
homeboy I'm talking about he hadan option to work at nvidia or
he had an option to work at acompany by the name of ripple.
He chose ripple.
At first he was disappointedbecause he saw what happened
(23:24):
with nvidia.
He was oh man I wish I caughtthat wave too yeah, but you know
, for those that are that areyou know, listening to this, to
this, look up what Ripple ownsthe company he chose to work at
Ripple is the creator of XRP and.
XRP is one of the top performingcryptocurrencies right now, and
(23:45):
so so that's why he's about tobe a millionaire this year
because of again going back tohis stock options that he has
and the the kind of pairedtogether this the equity he has
in his company, ripple, ispaying him.
His, his stocks are paid incryptocurrency.
Wow, so it's.
It's not just so, it's not justequity in a company, that's a
(24:09):
rocket ship yeah the equity isspecifically in cryptocurrency.
Yeah, so it's like literallyhe's, he's, and then, on top of
that, he has a high, six-figuresalary as well so it's like he's
getting the bag from tech, he'sgetting the bag from stock
options and he's getting the bagfrom cryptocurrency just from
working at one company.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Wow, so it's, it's, it's crazy, it's crazy honestly
wow, these pathways to, togenerational wealth and wealth
in general, um, if you are awareof them and can use them, um,
we can get there sooner.
We can get there faster, yeah,but we have to be mindful of it
and also not chasing the wrongthing, like chasing a salary or
a base salary.
It's not the right.
Like when you're telling mehe's looking at not portfolio
(24:53):
for the investment, butportfolio where he's going to
spend his time at becausethey're going to give him that.
That's hard right there.
Yeah, that's hard right therefor sure.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
You know.
I want to say something else tothat.
The other thing about it that'sthat's amazing is because you
know we hear the quote all thetime that the average
millionaire has seven streams ofincome.
I hear it often andunfortunately, that quote, or
the misunderstanding of thatquote, is a is another reason.
(25:20):
I believe that that's beenkeeping our people back, because
when I go to different eventsnot like an event today, but
usually when I'm, when I'm atentrepreneurial events or
business events, when I meetpeople and they, you know, they
give me their cards or ask themwhat they do they're like oh um,
I'm a real estate investor,also on the tour of business,
also do airbnb, I also do this,also do that.
(25:42):
And I'm like andrew broke, likeyou know, like you're, and
they're like what do you do?
I'm in tech?
And they're like, oh man, butyou're living like this.
Yes, because I have, becauseI'm, I'm locked in with this one
thing.
Yeah, so to clear up the quote,for for people that have heard
it and don't understand it, whenthey say that the average
millionaire has seven streams ofincome, the other part of the
part of it they don't express isthat that's not how they became
(26:05):
a millionaire.
That's the that's themisunderstanding.
The misunderstanding is oh they, the average millionaire has
seven streams of income.
Therefore, in order to become amillionaire, I must have seven
streams of income.
No, no, the average millionairehas seven streams of income.
Therefore, in order to become amillionaire, I must have seven
streams of income.
No, no, the average millionairebecame a millionaire through,
usually one at the max twostreams of income, and then,
once they got to a certain level, yeah is when they started
(26:25):
diversifying, diversifying theirrevenue streams and of course
you know, at that point theyhave enough money.
They could hire a team to kindof lock things in and then
they're able to scale from there.
No-transcript, thin factsversus locking in with one
(26:56):
specific thing.
Now, the reason why I bringthat up, to tie it back into
what I said the irony is that,using my friend as an example
and I can use myself as anexample as well, but that's the
beauty of when you're at a solidcompany where, it's like now,
you are technically gettingdifferent streams of income but
it's from you working at onecompany.
So it's not you doing three orfour different things, it's
(27:17):
literally you working at onecompany.
They pay you a high salary, sothat's one stream of income.
They give you amazing stockoptions within the company as
well.
That's your that, and that'sthe second stream of income as
well, and so it's just it's it'sdope.
Honestly, that's what's up,that's what's up man.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
You're dropping some gems.
Give him another gem right.
Too much gems, the wholeconversation won't be just, you
know, so I should have done thewhole conference.
What are you talking?
About shoot, not just a host.
I need my guy up there tellingus his knowledge, but yo, we're
coming to the end of ourconversation here.
It's an opportunity definitelyto plug in any resources and
things that you have, so tell usa little bit about what you got
going on.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, man.
So for those that are notfamiliar, so I'm the founder of
Tech is the New Black.
We are the largest tech careerand tech business podcast in the
world, not largest black, we'rethe largest, which is dope.
We actually found that outbecause we saw the Forbes top 10
list and my team was all theForbes top 10 list of tech
podcasts and I looked at it andI'm like we're larger than all
(28:18):
of them combined and so we werelike we hit up Forbes and we
were like, yeah, y'all need tonext year, y'all need to get
this.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, let me go do some fact checks For real.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And so, but, that being said, we've helped several
thousands of people get in theindustry.
Somewhere near 10,000 Peopleget tech careers Without degrees
or experiences being necessary.
That being said, since then, wehave launched Scale in Tech,
which is Essentially on thefront end.
It seems as if it's a boot camp, but we actually have something
(28:49):
that's called Job PlacementAssistance, because our platform
we're blessed with a very largePlatform with a large network,
mainly through our podcast.
Our podcast has given us a lotof deep relationships.
We have a lot of relationshipswith recruiters and hiring
managers whose companiesactually are hiring yeah, yeah
so with our job placementassistance, what a lot of people
don't know when it comes togetting, when it comes to
getting jobs, especiallyhigh-paying jobs, you know
(29:11):
people oftentimes say like, oh,I'm applying all these companies
, no one's hiring or no one'sinterviewing me.
What people don't realize isthat when these companies are
getting applications especiallythe larger companies I'm even a
mid-sized company today whenthey are opening up applications
for a role or they're openingup a role and they're getting
applications, they look atapplications based on certain
(29:35):
sequences yeah uh, sequencenumber one when.
Let me actually ask y'all reallyquickly when a when a company
puts up a job posting, who doyou believe applications they
look at first?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
so, um, I, I think and this is kind of from just
experience- is that they lookinternally yep, that's accurate
they look internally.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right, do you know what they look at then
after that?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
um, I would say that it would be uh, referrals yes,
yeah, and then after that afterreferrals would be um, I would
say the recruiters, um networkin terms of who they can reach
out to or services that they'reusing.
Yeah, so exactly, I'm gettingan A plus here.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
So the recruiter, the recruiter piece that sometimes
could be looked at as likeinternal, as internal referrals.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Almost on the same level.
So, yeah, so most people.
The reason why most peoplearen't getting any opportunities
, even for an interview isbecause they're definitely not
an internal referral, but on topof that, they're not an
internal employee.
But on top of that, they'realso not an internal referral.
But then the third piece isthat they are not a top
candidate for the role.
(30:50):
Now people don't even know howto actually make sure they're a
top candidate.
People typically think that, ohwell, I have these skills, the
company's hiring for it, sotechnically I'm a, I'm a top
candidate.
And that's not true at all.
People don't understand how toleverage their transferable
skills and their domainexpertise at the same time.
So, for example, if someonewants, if someone has a
(31:12):
healthcare background background, but let's say they're looking
to get into a tech sales role,for example, that's low-hanging
fruit Tech sales role.
Typically, what I see is thatthey will go to any type of tech
sales opening, which is okay,but it's like yo, you have this
(31:32):
healthcare background.
You know there are a lot ofhealth tech companies Facts.
If the health tech companiesare hiring for a tech sales role
, you could be a top candidatebecause you not only have the
skills that they're looking for,but you have the expertise
within that health care field ofwhat they're looking for as
(31:54):
well.
So now you outrank everyoneelse because from your resume,
your cover letter, your LinkedIn, if everything shows you within
that domain, now you outrankeveryone.
And now the recruiters are likeoh yeah, so you super qualified
.
You don't just have the skills,you understand the industry
that you're even going to beselling.
(32:14):
Have the skills you understandthe industry that that you're
even going to be selling to, soyou stand out so those are
things that people don't look at, but one of the things that we
have.
So, of course, we have a lot oftrainings to teach people, no
matter what their background is,on how to actually sniper mode
find the companies they're a topcandidate for yeah and that's
one of the reasons why we'vebeen able to help so many people
.
But but on top of that, throughour network with recruiters and
hiring managers, we have the jobplacement assistance.
(32:36):
We're on the back end.
The recruiters and hiringmanagers' companies are mass
hiring, they're taking ourgraduates of our program and
they're providing not justinternal referrals into their
company, they're actually doingcoaching on how to actually win
the job through the interviewprocess, literally breaking down
the steps of the interview,telling them okay, um, this is
(32:57):
what they're looking for culturewise.
These are the questions you'regoing to get in the interview.
These give this answer likethis, like breaking down
everything.
Now, of course, I want to beclear they're doing this because
the people we're sending them,the people that do our program,
they're already qualifiedknowledge wise, correct?
it's just again, that gap thatpeople are missing, yeah, is
that they get in the interviewand even if they know how to
(33:20):
answer a question, it's theydon't know how to answer it the
specific way the company wants.
Right, you know it's.
It's almost like you knowdating.
You know, if you're dating awoman where every woman likes
flowers, so let's say yourgirlfriend, your wife, whoever
let's say she's like, oh, youshould give me some flowers.
Okay, she'll be happy if youget her roses.
(33:42):
But eventually she's gonna tellyou hey, by the way, lilies, I
prefer lilies over roses.
So roses are the generalstandard.
But when you get specific tothe woman, she will tell you
what she's, what shespecifically likes.
Yeah, likewise are thesecompanies where you can, you can
(34:03):
do, because we see a lot ofpeople, I see a lot of people
paying for coach over, likeinterview coaching and stuff,
and it's like the interviewcoaching is like knowing they're
going to teach you.
Okay, get a woman roses.
But within our job placementassistance, the recruiters are
teaching people specific to thecompany and they actually get to
choose two companies out of ourlist of companies.
(34:23):
So they get two sets ofrecruiters, two sets of hiring
leaders at the companies thatare training them, and they're
not just.
It goes beyond just the regularfluff of okay, this is how you
answer this question.
No, no, no.
This is how our company likesyou to answer the question.
Answer it like this, with thesespecific words, and so it's
(34:43):
really setting people up forsuccess.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
That's what's up.
That's what's up, and thank youso much for doing this, because
this part of recruiting I feellike the other side of the table
has been doing this for years,and I've worked in Silicon
Valley, so I've seen a lot ofwhite people.
Asian people and nothing wrongwith my Indian people also.
(35:07):
But the influx of access thatthey got is because they're
getting this insights that youare offering.
And the mind-blowing thing isit's not like I'm not qualified.
I know that I need roses.
I'm bringing roses.
I brought roses the last time,but they didn't tell me that I
need to bring them lilies,exactly they didn't tell me that
if only they told me that yeah,so that service fire.
(35:29):
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description below.
I want you all to follow my guy.
He is on a trajectory that I'vebeen following for a while and
let me tell you, every time Isee you peaking up even more,
peaking up even higher.
So keep doing what you're doing.
My brother.
Keep doing it.
Keep doing it exactly the waythat you're doing it, and do
(35:51):
more of it, because we need tosee it.
Our people need to see it assoon as we see it, it's a game
changer yeah, so cue up themusic d hustle.
We over here supposed to be only15 minutes and my sire's got us
here 35 minutes dropping gems.
My god, my god.
So I want to say, first of all,thank you so much for pulling
up backstage with bobby d, thankyou so much for hosting this
great event.
(36:11):
We're here at the BlackwellSummit 2025 here at Florida
Memorial University, where we atD-Hustle Miami, Miami.
Miami.
He's about to go to the beach.
I got to go take him to thebeach before he gets all upset
Before we leave for our audience.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
How did they find you , in case they need to find you?
Yeah, definitely so.
The platform is.
Tech is the New Black.
We're on all audio streamingplatforms, video, podcasts.
You can see us on YouTube.
I live in South America.
I'm in Colombia and in theDominican Republic a lot right
now.
So actually, I mean, check outour content.
I'm actually going to startvlogging in those different
(36:43):
countries where I'm going to bestreaming, vlogging, answering
questions while people get tosee the culture and get to see
what's going on in thesecountries because again, it's
like it's.
It's cool to make money, but thebeauty is that you know in some
spaces you can live, like me,where you're able to actually
work completely remote, live ina different part of the world,
and when you get in a bag youcan afford to live anywhere,
because it's very few placesthat are as expensive as america
(37:05):
facts.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Keep it up, my brother.
Keep it up.
Big inspiration man.
Uh, definitely keep tuning in.
We got more episodes coming up.
If you you missed anything forthe conference.
If you attend, it was free, wegot you, but if you did not
attend, I need you all to rewind.
Press that rewind button, checkout my guy Cyrus and definitely
holler us here at the TechHustle Like subscribe all that
good stuff, right D?
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Hustle.
Yes, sir, All right now.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Holler at your boy it .
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