They Assume We Know Nothing Podcast
A Taylor Swift fan podcast deep diving into the many eras, lyrical analyses, and so much more. Join two Swifties, who have been there since the start, to ride the waves of all the emotions behind Taylor's lyrics and the vast interpretations. So get out your quill pens and put on your friendship bracelets! Join Cait Apple and Kitty Packman where the spirit meets the microphone.
Episodes
026. It's been a long time coming...
Welcome back! The girls are back (finally) and sharing their thoughts on Taylor Swift updates in 2025 (so far!) and chiming in with some personal updates as well.
This episode covers:
Taylor at Tulula's garden in Philly
Taylor owning her masters
Taylor and Travis sightings
Personal updates and more!
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027. Taylor Swift Games (Kitty’s Version)
A fun episode today with the girls! Kitty came up with Taylor Swift related questions that has both hosts going a little deeper into Taylor Swift’s life, lyrics, and discography. What are your answers to these questions? The girls want to know!
This episode covers:
Which Taylor lyric best describes you?
If you had to eliminate one TS album, which would it be?
Which of Taylo...
The Way I Loved You
Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing The Way I Loved You, a powerful soliloquy so relatable when you just don't feel that "Spark" in a relationship, even though the seem perfect on paper.
This episode covers:
- How love and lust differentiate
- Taylor's description of The Way I Loved you
- Kitty and Cait's personal conn...
Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing You’re Not Sorry, one of Taylor’s underrated ballads. A relatable take on a relationship that you choose to end before it ends you.
This episode covers:
The Era’s Tour quick recap discussing surprise songs, Debutation, and easter eggs.
History and statements made during the release You’re Not Sorry and it’s...
In this crossover episode with Spiritually Ever After, Kitty dives into the 25 Taylor Swift songs that give her Disney vibes. Some of them may be a stretch, but isn’t the whole point to live in fantasy?! We’re all mad here.
This episode covers:
- 25 Taylor Swift songs that have references to, or similarities with, Disney movies
- Kitty trying to hold back from talking about recent clothing and surprise song choices at the Mi...
023. Tell Me Why-A Lyrical Analysis of Taylor Swift
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022. Breathe-A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis
Today Cait and Kitty breathe through the simplistic yet powerful lyrics of the song "Breathe" from the Taylor Swift Album "Fearless." Tune is as the girls share their thoughts and feelings as they make their way through the song lyric by lyric.
This episode covers:
Rumors and concepts around the basis behind the song
What Taylor Swift shared publically about Breathe
Breaki...
021. Taylor Swift Top Songs on Every Album (non-romantic related)
Today Cait and Kitty go through each album chronologically and pick out some of their NUMBER ONE FAVORITE TAYLOR SWIFT SONG that has little or nothing to do with love, heartbreak, heartache, and romantic feelings (or lack there of). Here Kitty and Cait's different takes and opinions.
This episode covers:
A break down of Kitty and Cait's favorite songs on ev...
020. You Belong with Me- A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis
Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing about You Belong with Me, one of Taylor’s long standing bops, but do the lyrics and story behind it stand the test of time? Click play and find out!
This episode covers:
The impact You Belong with Me has on the Taylor Swift discography
History an...
019. Taylor Swift News and updates!
The girls are back! We have come together after a cruel but incredible summer and we’re excited to catch up on all the updates in the Taylor Swift Universe. We deep dive into the latest Taylor sightings, the “PR leak”, and the end of the Era’s tour around the corner.
This episode covers:
Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce being a PR Relationsh...
018. How to Survive Mercury Retrograde Using Taylor Swift Songs
No need to worry this Mercury Retrograde…. Taylor’s music is here for you! Join Kitty for a solo episode all about how to make it through this period of complicated communication and relationship challenges.
This episode covers:
- Making the most of Mercury Retrograde
- Why Mercury Retrograde gets a bad rep, and what it actually means
- The best Taylor Swift son...
Another lyrical analysis coming your way today! Kitty and Cait glance in their rearview mirrors to dive into the lyrics of White Horse by Taylor Swift as they make their way through the Fearless Era. Their first track five on this journey. This ain't a fairy tale, but it sure feels like it!
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This episode Kitty and Cait rank their top ten breakup songs across Taylor Swift's discography. From Debut to Tortured Poets, we know our girl Tay can write deep cut lyrics about her heartbreak. The girls had a tough time making a top ten, but did their best to find the ones that most spoke to them. From Should've said no, to All too Well, to loml, to Happiness; there were some notable, but surprising rankings!
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...This episode Kitty and Cait break down the song, "Hey, Stephen". This sweet song captures their hearts and they share their thoughts, some clips about who Stephen is, and break down the lyrics.
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Cait flies solo this episode to discuss a detailed account of her time in children's theater with Taylor Swift. She shares her memories of Taylor, her parents, and the shows they performed together. Some stories never before shared, Cait takes her getaway car down memory lane for all of you!
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Kitty and Cait dive into the lyrics of Love Story, one of Taylor's biggest hits that sky-rocketed her to fame! They analyze the lyrics line by line and discuss the connections to Romeo and Juliet and how she used that story to fuel her feelings and modernize the story to create a masterpiece.
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Cait and Kitty are back together once again to talk the Swiftverse or everything that is happening currently in Taylor Swift's world as fans. They discuss the newest addition to the Eras Tour, Tortured Poets, and break down the songs she picked and what they loved (as they watched from the grainy tiktok lives!). They also chat the demos/first drafts she shared, Tayvis spottings, and more!
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This week is a special solo episode with Kitty doing a Human Design reading of Taylor’s chart. Come learn what it means that Taylor is a 5/1 Splenic Projector, as well as how you can start to use Human Design in your own life! Contact us!
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This episode Cait and Kitty find and share invisible strings that connect Taylor Swift's latest album, The Tortured Poet's Department, to past albums in her discography. Whether musically, lyrically, or through muses, Kitty and Cait share the connections they feel link back to other beloved songs and there are a lot more than you think.
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Kitty and Cait tackle another lyrical analysis this episode and go back to high school to walk through the doors of being 15 again. Kitty and Cait talk about their lives and views as young teenagers, dive into the insight Taylor had about this age, and the meaning behind the song!
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