Are You Really Living According to Your Values?

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That's what's up a lot to, that's what's up. That
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All right?

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yeah, this is this is Sherman's pig. Hey, baby, we
we're gonna support him all the way. If this question
don't have you thinking about your life? Is this a prob?
Are you really living according to your values?

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Who won first?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Let's all start here? Are we all on the same
page as to what hypocrisy is?

Speaker 5 (04:53):
I want to go, sir Google.

Speaker 6 (04:57):
I mean, we're not even like even gonna tiptoe into
this joy. We're just yeah, we're just gonna walk right
into it.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Bad.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
But okay, all right, I hope that we're all in
that the same page.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
I would hope so too.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah, I mean, because it's pretty much do as I say,
not as I do, you know, at a shorter term. Yeah,
I mean, if somebody's out here, oh yeah, do as
I say, now as I do.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
We all know what that is.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
So yeah, that's my that's my very simple definition of hypocrisy.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Mmm, okay, now me me absolutely. Yeah. You know I've
been trying to leave back mm hmm. I'm working on it.
I'm finding it. I ain't gonna even get on here
and lie in front. I am finding it. Yes, I

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am finding it. Yeah, forget that, I am finding it
right now, right now. I am in the process of
rebuilding all of me and creating new value. So yeah,
I am finding it right now. So all right.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
Makes all right?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Canes? Come on?

Speaker 8 (06:18):
Well?

Speaker 10 (06:22):
How I look at hypocrisy is are you able to
look in the mirror? Just just be able to look
in the mirror and be honest with yourself because you've
a lot to everybody.

Speaker 9 (06:34):
I mean, the only person you can't lie, you know,
that's the person in the mirror.

Speaker 7 (06:38):
So do you love everything?

Speaker 9 (06:42):
And if you don't figure out what you don't.

Speaker 10 (06:46):
Try to watch how you move, trying to watch to
make it shorter, just to bind it all up.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
Hmm.

Speaker 9 (07:00):
Chigure out how you look at the world.

Speaker 10 (07:02):
Really figure out how you look at the world, because
as soon as you do that, everything else will fall
under that umbrella.

Speaker 9 (07:08):
And I would say only second to that.

Speaker 10 (07:10):
Is, uh, watch how watch where you get your information
from and watch how you take it in.

Speaker 9 (07:14):
That's it mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (07:17):
Can Well, I'll say I had a little bit of
a different view on this and shout out to the
mini masks that I have used over the years to.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Funnel my way through.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
Life dealing with different pains, losses, uh, misguided, misguided information,
no information at all, and to sum all it up
into one person and think that the way that I
think is primarily the right way to think, and it

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put me at a disadvantage and others that I deal
with at a disadvantage. What makes it hard to accept
who I am? But yet perpetrate being something that I'm not.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
So for me? Are we all on the same page? Fuck? No,
we're not. Period.

Speaker 8 (08:45):
If anybody says, yes, you're lying, mm hmm, you're lying, period,
that's it for now.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
I have more, but that's it for them.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
It just seems that sometimes if you shame the devil,
you should be ashamed.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's why this question is so relevant.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
It seems confusing because if we're all in agreement to
the values that we all should live by, it should
be assumed in the social contract that I have some
authority to give you feedback, and that requires a basic
level of trust. Right, And it's no surprise when you

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take an account of all the skepticism and the cynicism
in this country. But I think it's a good idea
to talk about the background noise.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Right.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
If we skip over a definition of hypocrisy, like ivy
with signaling in the beginning, we risk assuming that everyone
is on the same flight, on the same page. Defining
it lightly keeps it universal, but real, less academic, you know,

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more of the you know that feeling right. So, for John,
hypocrisy is when you're not aligned with God. Hypocrisy is
when you're not aligned with truth. Hypocrisy is when your
walk doesn't match the talk. It's when your values and
your life don't match, and it's screwing with your head
that part right there. It's when you don't have a

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clear mind, and an unclear mind makes impaired decisions. Next question,
mm hmmm, we're gonna put a pin in that.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
The theories.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Let's start talking about them theorists. You know, we're not
We're not gonna no, no, no, no, no no, We'll
circle back.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Trust me, because I'm gonna call it. It's gonna end
up being a part to go ahead, Okay, all right,
I'm calling it early.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Ahead.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
So there is this psychology theorist named Carl Rogers, right,
He specialized in humanism in psychology. Right, and he came
up with the idea that everybody is supposed to be
working towards their higher realize self. Everyone they have their
own answers, Everyone is on a path to be self
actual actualized.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Right.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
So if you're speaking about like and he said that
that depression, anxiety, and other mental maladies they came from
a place now here, it is not right, they came
from You're from the from the the disconnection from your
actual self and what you perceive is your actualized self.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
I'm gonna say it again.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
The difference in the distance between your actual self and
who you think or who you want to be, there's ay,
there's a discrepancy in all. So if you are not
living your values, if you are not living on your
own values, let me go ahead and put that way too,
because a lot of times, like y'all here, to keep

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it a fuck, hypocrisy is taking stuff from our parents,
their parents, their parents' parents and bringing it into today,
into this life. So the hypocrisy and living somebody else's
values is a lot of times where let me go
ahead and just keep it from myself.

Speaker 7 (12:15):
That's where I was fucked up, and I'm gonna leave
it there. I'm gonna shut up. I'm gonna go on
because y'all know I talk of life.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
No, no, no, that.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
I'll just say.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
So, this is about living authentically, right, And if you're
living authentically, you're living according to your values.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
They're always in the.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Forefront of your mind, at least in most of your
decision making.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
So, if you're a kind person, you're gonna be looking
for opportunities to be kind. If you're a generous person,
you're looking for those opportunities because those opportunities are just
mediums for you to express yourself.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It's no different than you know, your job, like, hey,
I'm looking for an opportunity to make some money. I'm
trying to put some hours today, okay, putting some reps
for these values. Every opportunity you get to be honest,
I mean, that gets you closer and closer to mastering it,
you know, That's what I mean. That's what you're supposed
to do. If you're really about your values. You're just

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supposed to be in practice with the values, right because
they give you a benefit.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
That's that's the essence of it.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
There's a benefit there, there's an outcome, right, But let's
keep it moving. What does hypocrisy feel like? And do
we ignore that feeling or do we rationalize it away?
Think about the time that you were hypocritical?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
What did that feel like?

Speaker 9 (13:37):
Embarrassing?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Okay, ooh, okay, embarrassment?

Speaker 9 (13:42):
Did you know better?

Speaker 8 (13:44):
No? Better that?

Speaker 10 (13:45):
Stuff like that, but rationalize it away? I would bet,
I would bet that's probably ninety nine percent.

Speaker 9 (13:58):
Maybe not a people, but I think that's I think
that's common. But I also think that's humor.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 9 (14:05):
I also think it's humor.

Speaker 10 (14:07):
I think it's a part of what we're doing here
because I'm I'm simple. I think we only down the fertunities,
figure out and.

Speaker 9 (14:14):
Love each other and propriend.

Speaker 10 (14:18):
The only people that's living on this planet that ain't
doing it for free. Everybody else, anything else. But that's
just how that's how.

Speaker 9 (14:29):
I look at them.

Speaker 10 (14:31):
And definitely, to answer that question very simpler, rassling a
lot and way oh.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
Hey, Glen oh Man, let's talk about that parental hypocrisy.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Let me go on you, because I got a lot
to say about this.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
No, that's the whole point.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
All right, all right, I'll go ahead and take a crack.
So first art, Right, what does it feel like?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
For John? It felt like a punch in the gut? Uh.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Sometimes it feels like background noise, like this humming in
the background. Like I it's just so staticy. It feels
like electricity, anxiety, like it's a little burn. Right, it's
a little burn, but it's in the background. It's like
slow cooking.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, it's like this this this buzzing in my spirit,
feel little energy.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
Sometimes sometimes I'm coughing, I'm getting sick. You know, it
feels like, oh shoot, who.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I've been around? Right, feels a little toxic. I can
feel myself getting weak. Right.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Do we ignore it or rationalize it? A way? I
think we do both.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
I think it just depends on the day and how
much stress we're enduring. You know, you know what's the
resources that are available. Ignoring it is a quick fix,
but when you rationalize it, it's a little bit more smooth.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Right.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
You could say things like everybody's done it, or hey man,
sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do or you
can't get them right all the time. It's a band aid.
It's it's a band aid of guilt, that's what it is.
The guilt is usually in place of that wound someone

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punched with bloom and then it's like, all right, I
got some broken balls here, but I'm put a band
aid of guilt on here, and I'm gonna let that
guilt punish me for being out of alignment. And I'm
gonna also try to rationalize it to liberate myself from it.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Coke, you stupid. Wow.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Well, so there's a voice too, there's a voice. Yeah,
there's a voice that comes from it too. And the
crazy part is that that's not even your voice. That's
the voice of the emotion, right, because there's a wound there,
like you're not living in that. That hurts, Yo, that hurts.

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Something's gonna come out of that, Something's gonna speak like, Hey,
we ain't it, bro, You ain't him.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
Let me remind you you ain't him, but go ahead
and say you him. Yeah, that's that guilt feeling. That's
an imposter syndrome.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Man. I was about to say, I'm like, I love
the fact that Glenn brought this up.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
It's like, you know, like how it feels like as
a parent when we live in hypocrisy. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (17:50):
I will speak from my own from my own place,
you know what I'm saying, because I like that. I
like to keep trying to keep it a bucket and
that focus it on myself. For a long time, I
didn't even know as a parent how long I was
living in hypocrisy because of the fact, like I said,
I had picked up I had adopted the people around me,
like I adopted their values, not realizing how much they
didn't fit my own. I didn't how much they didn't

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fit my own life, you know what I'm saying. So
from the beginning, and I tell my kids this all
the time, I apologize for parenting them opposite of what
my actual values were, like the ones that I have now.
You know, because before I parented from a place of
like of other people's values, of my parents' values, of
their of their parents' values, and the hypocrisy, it I

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was numb. What does it feel What does it feel like?
What did it feel like?

Speaker 7 (18:41):
I was numb.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
It was like, you know what I'm saying like I
couldn't wake up to any emotion. I shoved this so
far down that I couldn't. I want to be able
to say that I parented my kids out of love.
But if I wasn't parenting out of.

Speaker 7 (18:54):
My values a value.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
If you value love, you value your own things. I
don't even know, like I think I was just like
hearing him out of survival and to be completely and
totally honest. That's that's what I was doing until I
got to until I sat with myself and got to
know with myself, you know what I'm saying. So it
felt I felt numb in these days because of the

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fact that I'm I'm doing my healing, I'm on my
healing journey. What does it feel like now? I literally
feel icky. I feel something that they call clinically cognitive business,
and it is the most you want to smack somebody
in your mama, feel like you want to smack somebody's
mama and her mouth feeling ever you get like the
bubbles in your stomach. It's like you just feel like
answer crawling on you. You know what I'm saying, the hypocrisy,

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you know. So like once I finally figured like if y'all,
if I was to turn this around and show y'all
my mirror right now, I have my values written on
my mirror dead stuff. And it was not because of
this podcast. I literally I wrote them on there probably
six months ago. And that's because the first thing I
do when I wake up in the morning is I'm like,
I gotta live and.

Speaker 7 (19:55):
I gotta love according to them.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
So I'm not living in a hypocrisy like I used
to shut up that ye.

Speaker 5 (20:02):
No, that's what's up. Can we get an example, give
us one?

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Absolutely? Okay.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
So, like I did not know that one of my
own personal values was was like creative expression autonomy, autonomy
of my creative expression, right, because when I was when
I was younger, art was looked at it was looked
as like it was folly, it was dump.

Speaker 8 (20:28):
Right.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
So I don't share on Facebook, but I share on
I shared now. I started sharing on TikTok because I
realized that one of my most important values is to
wake up in the morning, chase dopamine, be creative, right,
And that.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
Also means that I've got to let.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
My kids have room for their creative expression as well.
Like back in the way that I grew up. Oh,
if you if you took something out of the house
or you use something that wasn't nobody supposed to be
you know, you ain't spposed to be writing on your shit.
U he ain't supposed to be doing X, Y and Z.

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Nah.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
That's my that's my baby trying to trying to get there.
You know what I'm saying. They're trying to be creative.
That's them being creative.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
I gotta let them outlet because I would have lived
on Thomas life. I gotta kids living on tmomous life too.
Now we have left and right limits, right, but still
that's a part of a part of my.

Speaker 7 (21:15):
Life is creative expression.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
And one of their values is a creative expression as well.
So I gotta let them live that, you know. Yeah,
that's how it shows up for me.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
Now you're creating something new within your own family, and.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
It's fucking hard because I don't have a road map.
I mean, you know what I'm.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Saying, nobody does. We go off of what we've been,
what we have been raised to. Yeah, that's it, That's
that's it. But you're creating your own.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
You want to take a crack at this or you
want to move on to the next one.

Speaker 10 (21:47):
I got my I've just been I gotta say something.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Face, I'm sorry, he just got that.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
I gotta say something face say it.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
HM, I'm gonna throw an example, and then I'm a
building on fuck. So with the question that was just asked,
there's no more than trying to play the lottery.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
You go in it thinking that you know what it
is to know to win.

Speaker 8 (22:28):
Then you play and you find out you know you
don't know, you know nothing behind the scenes of what
it takes to even pick certain numbers or even a
scratch off.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
But you assume I'm gonna win this. I got this,
when I got this, When I got this, when I
got this.

Speaker 8 (22:47):
When you're living off the dopamine of thinking that you
got control and putting yourself in a position to win
just because you showed up, you ain't winning nothing. Furthermore,
you know how many people prior to you billions with

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the same understanding and nothing came of it. Nothing, And
you still have that feeling telling you, like John said.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Try to get it. We're gonna get it this time,
just one more time, one more time. It ain't gon hurt.
We're gonna make it we're gonna get it there and no, no, no,
this is right? No no, no, what happened? I got you?
I got you? I got you this one more time,
more time.

Speaker 8 (23:41):
It's no different when you show up at work, show
up for your family, show up for yourself. Mm hmm,
you really be disingenuine. Sometimes they get get the value
that or the core or what you think, your idea
of what's supposed to be good, what it looks like.

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Your good is not the good for your children. Your
good is not the good for your boss, your supervisor,
your lead you. No, your good is only your good
for the moment that you had that thoughts. That's it,
nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't It doesn't really
define the space that you're entering in because everything changed situation, situation,

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second to second, minute to minute. Anything could teeter you
off of where you thought you had your value at
or your core understanding. It'll switch you up like in life,
it'll throw you so many lemons. You'd be like, well,
I did make a glass of lemonade, but yeah it
was to your liking, but you didn't realize it was

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lemonade till you was told it was lemonade. So once again,
no matter how many well, I'm gonna say this for me,
I'm understanding more and more my thoughts are not my thoughts.
Even though I heard my voice, I heard break down,
I hear their analogy, I hear to understanding, I hear
all of that. Still not my thoughts. Nothing I could

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I could think of it ain't new. Somebody probably said
it over and to buy somewhere exactly like how I said,
or did it exactly like how I did it. We
are nothing more than universes carbon copied off of other universes,
and we're colliding left and right, left and right, left
and right. I'm imprinting on you, you're imprinting on me, reprinting
over there. I picked up word last week that I

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applied to what they said over. We can't say nothing
as original because we went at the beginning. So any
of our values over time, Yeah, we cultivate them to
build something that we think is the right way to
go about doing something. But everybody got their hand in it,
even with me talking about supreme mathematics, you know what

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I mean, hands that probably passed through before I even
got my hands on it.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
You know how many people.

Speaker 8 (25:57):
After me that's probably gonna put their hands on and
think they got a new spin to it has a core,
But I wasn't there when it originated. I mean, I'm
still gonna try to you know, quote unquote, Yeah, I
got it. Today's math is I'm pretty sure somebody else

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said the same thing. I just don't happen to be
in their universe when they said it. That's all ms
ms Tanner just said that. Who am I to tried
to push my ideology on my children on how they
should express themselves. Well, it's no different than women's Tanner
going too the world trying to express herself and someone

(26:42):
just steps in. Hey, by the way, that's what to
stop in and let you know you could tweak. Wait, man,
I didn't ask you for your input. What I think
is genuine and true to me and what I got
going on. But you know what, I think I'll take
some cream with that coffee. It sounds good. I'm gonna

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apply it. So where's the true you know, I mean,
like the real core, the real value of you really
coming from. Some people will say that probably takes shadow work.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (27:18):
I'm just I'm just saying I'm just throwing something out.
I'm just trying to push push the I'm gonna say
the field goal. I'm just pushing the field goal back
just a little bit. You know, where's your real value
coming from? Where's your real understanding coming from? Even when
it comes to knowledge itself, where's that really coming from?
Where's your true consciousness coming from? All of us on
this panel, at some point I had an epiphany. At

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some point we linked in to this space of quote
unquote nothingless. It had an idea out of nowhere, supposedly,
and we build on it.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
We build on it. Now does it work? I don't know.
There's now the negative, no positive, but.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
I'm pretty sure that if we try to apply it,
it sounds good.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
But is it our true value?

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Not to you know, anything that's already been said on
the panel, I'm just saying, is it our true value
according to what we think is app We maintained it
since birth. I'm just saying, even in the healing process,
we still have now. I remember my grandma said and

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my auntie at the end of the day, I got
that whooping about it, and I was told that the
way I was going about doing it, but in my
mind it sounded like this the right way. I sat
down with the math teachings, like how did you.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Get this answer?

Speaker 8 (28:39):
And my question was was it the right answer? Yes,
the right answer, but you didn't use the right formula.
But don't matter. In my head this makes sense.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I don't know. Yeah, I'm right, all right.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
I like that that? Yeah, okay, mmm, I like that?

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Is I like that.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
It's an initiative, it's integrity, it's a value. All right,
all right, here we go, Here.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
We go, here we go.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Uh why is it so common hypocrisy in society?

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Because we have seen so many people say who they
are and end up being not who they are?

Speaker 4 (29:41):
So examples, okay, we see it seems like, uh, it
seems like the status quo. There's plenty of examples. You
got prescriptive, right, you got the prescriptive norms where all.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Right, this is what we say we do, then the
actual norms. Yeah? Really all right, so we're actually seeing it.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, it's easy.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
It's easier. Okay, jump on the line right now.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Do as I say, not as I do.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Is it easier to preach values than it is to
live by them?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (30:26):
My goodness, I don't know. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
I don't know about this one right here as I
look at it, right, because you know it's a very
it's a very open question.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Right. You have to really think about who you're.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Asking when it comes to that question, because if you ask,
if you're just asking this one on one, John, whole
world against John, is it easier to preach values than
to live by them?

Speaker 1 (30:55):
John is gonna say it's easier.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
For me to show you than the reach them, because
I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Really, I don't want to talk about it. I'd rather show.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
You and you just watch, and then you can you
can ask the questions like, hey, why did all?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Right? As we go?

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I'm gonna keep showing you as we go, but I'm
not gonna say a whole lot. Just do as I do.
You see this dance, This is humility, you see it?
Just watching do it? Just watching do it, and then
once you do it, you will understand it. I could
tell you I could preach it, but to me, it's easier,
and I say ease, because I'm effectively trying to communicate

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this value to you. Preaching is not necessarily effective in communication. Right,
You can say it, right, but really you have to
consider the audience who learns best. Is it the person
that's just listening or is it the person that's observing,
because you could get a clear understanding of the context.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
And you won't get it. You won't get it misconstrued.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Like you see, okay, John, what is your generosity in
this context and this context and this whole world's watching me?
Right this context, this context. It's easier for me to
show you than to talk about it because at least
you'll believe me. That's easier for me than talking about it,
because you may not believe me, and then I got
to convince you, and that's too much work and that's hard.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
You know, it's funny that you say that.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Not funny, but it's very clarifying that you say that
it's easier for you to live and those values.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Right.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
The reason why I said that is because almost like
Keing Newtorn just said it right, Like, people have different
definitions of what their values are. So a person can
be like, yeah, I live in I live in honesty,
I live in truth, But what their truth really is
is that they like to be hypercritical against people and
they don't understand that that's not true.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
That is just judgment. You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Like, people have their definitions of what their values are
and what it means to them, but they but it's
not a universal there's not a universal language for that value,
you know, it's only it's up to that person's interpretation.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
I think. So I think that that's what we can
look at and be like, oh, that's.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
The reason why values can look hypocritical, right, because of
the fact that you know, like we're all individual peoples
and sometimes people are different, they can have different truths, right,
And so because somebody can be.

Speaker 7 (33:23):
Like, oh, yeah, i'm a boss, I'm a boss, but.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
They're not telling you that they think that that their
their boss or their money minded thing is about. They
think that that's what they live by, but what they're
really doing is it's not for the ground.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah feels so, yeah, there could be there could be
a difference of opinion or a difference of viewpoint on
the continuum.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So it could be.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Uh, compassion or passion or inspirational. Oh okay, well you're
not this inspirational, but you're inspirational. You're you're this inspirational,
not this inspirational though, but you're on.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
The spectrum you somewhere up in there. I want it.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
As you were talking, I started thinking about something also
in lieu of the.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
First part of the question, just from.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
A survival point of view, right, just think about the
tribe you know that has resources, people, you know, things, water, sustenance.

Speaker 8 (34:16):
And.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Let's just say, you're not as hard working as the
rest of the tribe, but you need the tribe to survive.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
So what are two things gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
You got to adapt to this situation, right, Are you
going to with your lips say that you're as hard
working as them and boast about how hard working you been, right,
lay out the resume, no receipts, they never seen you
out there, or you actually gonna put in the work
and just risk you know, you being exposed for.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Not being a hard worker.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
Right, you go out there, you work with these jokers
right here, and you realize, oh.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Shit, I am not a hard worker. These can work.
I can't do it. I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
And then the tribe says, oh, look at this week, mother,
you out the tribe all day. But what if you
would allied and said, yo, I put in the work.
And then you, you know, kind.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Of bedazzled and with your charisma.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
And you speak on it like you really know it,
because I mean, again, a good story sells, right man.
So I think that's also kind of primitive in terms
of how societies are formed. You know, we all express
these shared values, right, and so any outsiders or shoot,

(35:39):
even folks that's within the tribe, right, that's within the circle,
within the community. You know, there's a little bit of
a burden there if you don't live up to those values.
How is the community going to perceive you? And are
they going to be willing to share their resources with
someone who does not share their values? Survival now is
at stake. Do you comp reminds how you truly feel

(36:01):
in order to survive, because survival looks different in every situation.
Even at the upper class, it looks different for them
than it does when you're poor. Survival could be aligning
with people that don't really have your best interest at heart,
but they have leverage. But down here at poverty level,

(36:25):
it's more violent, it can be a little bit more sinister,
it can be a little bit more aggressive versus that
blue collar up there. I'm sorry, that white collar up
there that suit at this level, having to compromise their
integrity for you know, maybe half a mill and it's like, well, hey, listen,

(36:45):
I got this half a million dollar home and I
got kids in private school. This is my commise at
all levels. Right, It's a question of are your values
as strong as they are, as strong as you think
they are when you're faced with survival level threat? Are

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you still gonna have that same integrity?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Oh? Go ahead, I was.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
I was just getting ready to say.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
I was like, we can we already know what happens
to that, to the one percent when they get pushed,
because all we have to do is just say target and.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
DEI we've been on a road.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Okay, some of that is tariff, some of those are terriffs,
but okay, that's side.

Speaker 7 (37:26):
But yeah, no, I'm just saying.

Speaker 6 (37:28):
I mean, like, you know, like their whole entire like
platform was built off of, you know, supporting black creators
and all that kind of stuff and like also being
inclusive of the LGBTQ community. But then like hey, look
they oh, we're gonna start taking money away from you,
or we're gonna put these We're gonna put X, Y
and Z. Okay, all right, now we're just gonna change
up everything. We're gonna I'm just saying like, that's not

(37:49):
the only company, that's not the only entity, that's not
the only organization.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
So I mean, if you've got corporations who.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Are possible, who are capable of doing that when they're
in survival mode or they feel that they're in survival mode,
to think about what the regular person is going.

Speaker 7 (38:02):
To do, you know, And I want to point this
out if you.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Don't mind, if you are a hypocrite, own it because
it's human and we've all been hypocritical at.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
Some point in time.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
One two, three, for five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
Whoever is living out there in the universe, you know
what I'm saying, whoever is watching.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
I'm sorry that I was a hypocrite last week. I
apologize for it, though.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
But it's human. It's very human. The part that we
need for people to see see them recognize what it
is and then.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
Own that shit like I talked.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
I talked to that. Excuse me, I talked to God
love all time and me and I'll be like, man, yeah,
I got to eat that shit. That is my that
is my grow to quote these days because I.

Speaker 7 (38:48):
Know I am capable.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
She's not lying.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
I'm not I know like I know I am. However,
I choose not to live in it anymore like I
used to. That's it, I'm going back on you.

Speaker 10 (39:00):
It yeah, well, oh yeah, I gob out. I'm trying
to kind of remember why it's hypocrisy so common, just
like you.

Speaker 9 (39:16):
I mean, I'm taking a lot of off of.

Speaker 10 (39:18):
What you guys have said too, but because I think
it was already said survivability and everybody wants to eat,
and survivability may look like something different to you, but
even when it comes to being.

Speaker 9 (39:29):
A child, you just want to fit in. You want
to be a part of the norm. So so if
hypocrisy is it, let's.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Go for it.

Speaker 10 (39:37):
It doesn't it doesn't so much matter because you see
so many people doing it. It may not be correct, but
I think I think if you don't hope, if you
don't have a good value at home from I would
definitely say both parents, hypocrisy attacks you much quicker.

Speaker 9 (39:54):
M h. It's about where you hold your value.

Speaker 8 (39:56):
Do you hold it?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
What?

Speaker 9 (39:57):
What government do you hold your values at? What religious
book do you hold your values?

Speaker 6 (40:01):
That?

Speaker 9 (40:02):
What? It even goes down it's simpler for me. What
opinion do you take over yours?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Mm hmmm, So we don't.

Speaker 10 (40:10):
Look at that, we'll look at that and then we'll
then we could judge you.

Speaker 9 (40:14):
But people don't even have those. They just go off
of whatever. Because people pick up people pick up Jesus
like a remote. They only pick up something. That's what
I love it.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
I see it one more time.

Speaker 7 (40:31):
People do what people.

Speaker 10 (40:37):
Just when they want to change the channel because they
already been doing what they've been doing, and hypocrisy has
been okay.

Speaker 9 (40:42):
So they make it okay for six days, but that
seventh day they say it's bad.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
But they know this already.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
They know it's a problem within the within the community.
They already know this, So it's not we're not calling
out anything that they already know.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
They do it to They do it to each other, and.

Speaker 9 (40:59):
And and the and the second half of that question.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Show it.

Speaker 9 (41:03):
That's all I can do because preaching it, I refuse
to preach it.

Speaker 10 (41:07):
I refuse to try to convince you of something that
you already don't believe in. Yeah, So rather I'd rather
show you and then judge how I live, which.

Speaker 9 (41:17):
Is fine because I'm okay with the judgment.

Speaker 10 (41:20):
Don't worry with it because I am who I am
and I and if I think I'm going in the
right direction, I got enough ideas, I got enough people,
and I got enough examples.

Speaker 9 (41:29):
And receipts to bounce it off of to kind of
show that I am a.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Good person.

Speaker 10 (41:34):
And I got good core values. Because I don't disrupt.
I always have a common energy about me. I think
calmness and a beard shows wisdom.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 7 (41:53):
That's me. That's me, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (41:57):
That's why I take that one on the chair. I'm
gonna eat that ship.

Speaker 7 (42:00):
Yeah yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I ain't seen a monk yet with a bird with it.

Speaker 9 (42:12):
But I just I think it's your Deleanor. I think
it's your demeanor that a uh that will show.

Speaker 10 (42:20):
Your hypocrisy or killer a lot of a job.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Hit the backs.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
Then it's an ego thing. But we'll get into that.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
All right.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
So, uh guide level, does hypocrisy affect our mental health?

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Oh? Real quick? Before she answered that, I just want
to say this.

Speaker 8 (42:38):
The teacher will show with The teacher will always show
up no matter what form, what thing, what it's what
person would always show up when the student is.

Speaker 5 (42:50):
Ready to line. You make me go buy that and
send it to John. I'm gonna send it to him.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
To that.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
Yeah, I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna go
ahead and offa mental health explain. I'm just gonna go
ahead and say yes. But y'all know that I am
in a in a new building stage. I am recreating
myself right now and my values and what is important

(43:25):
to me. So I am learning and yes, hypocrite, Yeah,
being a hypocrite does affect your mental health. You have
to remind yourself daily to be this person even though
you're this person's just constant. You know, it's like two
people in one two people in.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
But like John says, you gotta get them repent. They
gotta get them repent every day.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Man.

Speaker 6 (43:56):
It's just it's like literally like like like reforming, like
even reforming who like reforming your values, reforming who you are.

Speaker 7 (44:05):
You have to like you have to get those reps in.

Speaker 6 (44:07):
And when you're when you're faced with adversity, when you're
faced with a mentality of lack, like if you're you're
hit with something that takes you out.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
Or brings you back to whoever it is that your word.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
That's a chance to hit to like lift that heavyweight
and be like, all right, I gotta lift this heavyweight
right now. And I can't go back and be the
be the person who I was. I can't go back
and be the hypocrite that I was. You know what
I'm saying. It's that chance to lift that rep You know, man,
y'all don't be thinking I'll be thinking. I really don't
think I'll be listening, But I'll be listening, man, I'll

(44:42):
be downloading.

Speaker 7 (44:43):
That three of y'all. All three y'all.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
I'm sorry anyway, As a remote, I'm surrounded by I
ain't gonna say, by a lady who claims to be
Jesus soldier. You know, she walking to that job, speak

(45:08):
to everybody but me.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
She doing the conscious work.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
Yeah, they barbecued, she offered everybody else. He looked me
dead in my face. I looked at her and she
didn't say a word. I said, and you claim Jesus.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Like you wout out to survival remorse. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (45:40):
I say that to say, first of all, to the
lady talking about peace and love and let her tune
in one day all the viewership. Uh, but sm I
like I like what you said, Missus Tanner, I love it,
love I just want to say that that the brain,

(46:03):
I don't care what you put it through.

Speaker 7 (46:05):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
It's either gonna talk you out of it or it's
gonna talk you into it.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Period.

Speaker 8 (46:14):
It's it's always trying to survive, it's trying to adapt,
and then it's also trying to grow and develop at
the same time. It doesn't stop until you stop. So
if you stop receiving information, you're dead anyway, exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
You know.

Speaker 8 (46:31):
So you can you can keep challenging yourself on everything
that you learn up into right now, but just remember
it's still more to learn, and the more you add
to that, the more you're gonna change what your originally
thought was all to learn at that point. Again, at
that point, it at that point. So we constantly changing

(46:56):
our core value and we keep on it, building on
top on top, up on top on top. But we
have to have a basis to all of this, and
sometimes we have to deceive ourselves in order to make
a base. Gotta go through some bullshit sometimes with sometimes
misinformation or just being misguided. And I hate to say it,

(47:18):
I've misguided myself several times off of misinformation. Think that
this was it, you know, because I picked up that
remote just to say. You know, that's all I'm saying.
I ain't gonna say all the rest. I picked up
that remote and I tried to build off of it. Now,
there were some values that I was able to extract

(47:41):
and apply it to my life. I'm gonna say that much.
But as I continue to learn, I was.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Like, why the fuck they give me that remote? Why
did you give me that remote?

Speaker 8 (47:52):
I could have. No, you couldn't have because the brain
wasn't ready at that time. You wasn't ready to receive
again the teacher, which revealed itself when the student is
ready to learn every time. But sometimes ego getting away.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Man, you can't tell me, see me out of.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
You ain't ready to learn, and let you have it.
Unless you have it, I'll be silent. I'll let you
have it. And sometimes it's no different than a quartoon.
You got, you know, the white person will the white
colored figuring over here, and you got the red color
figurine over here, and you in the middle.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
But it's still all you.

Speaker 8 (48:35):
It's still all you, even though you try to separate it,
it's still all you.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Talking to you.

Speaker 8 (48:39):
Trying to figure out where do we go from here?
And that is definitely a struggle because I'm good at
arguing with me, Like, you know you're the fucked up,
don't you? You know you're in the fuck up? Now,
you gotta tuck your tail with a little bit of humility,

(49:00):
go over there, and I apologize due to my ignorance
because I didn't know. I thought I did. I know
a little bit, but I didn't know. I didn't know
at all. I didn't know shit. But I'm trying to
get through reps in. You try to get through repent.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
I heard that, Yes, sir, I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
To get it in.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
Because life is forever learning. You never gonna ain't no way,
I'm gonna tell you this much. I feel like if
you were able to learn everything, you would cease to
exist immediately.

Speaker 7 (49:31):
Sir mm hmm, yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Period watch the movie Lucy.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
Oh man, that's a big one.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 9 (49:46):
That's a big one.

Speaker 7 (49:48):
Wait a minute.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
Because I absolutely love Lucy, and I hear people like, God,
Lucy is so hurd about that. I'm like, I will
watch that joint on repeat because it blew my mind. Okay,
we'll talk about I'm like, what.

Speaker 8 (50:04):
Matter of fact, I opening opening theme song, there's a
phrase in there everything I am you know what? I
leave that alone.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Because what about okay anyway, because I get ready anyway.

Speaker 5 (50:24):
Yes, we had a conversation about that, and I wasn't ready.
But me and brother talked about that movie a long
time ago, and I was I didn't see what he seen,
and I just wasn't ready. I had to watch it again,
like I seen, but the way he broke it down,

(50:45):
he opened my mind to see it, I was just
like blown away. He was like, go watch it, go
watch it again. And I watched it again and I
was just.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
Like, wow, I'm over here, like seriously having a handsbo
because that movie blew my mind.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
Well, so good, Yeah, I can watch it again.

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Yeah, I want to answer this question, though I can
I take go ahead, can't take it? Yes, Yes, it's
okay to change your personal values because, as Kay Duboy
just said, your values fluctuate because you learn more stuff,
you get more downloads. Right as you get older, some
of the values that you have when you were twenty

(51:33):
don't apply when.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
You're thirty five.

Speaker 6 (51:35):
Some of the values that you had at thirty five
are not going to apply when you fifty, right, So
I'm just saying it is absolutely fine to change your
personal values. And how do you handle the social perception
of being deemed a hypocrite?

Speaker 7 (51:48):
Motherfucker? I'm human, bitch. I gotta eat that I learned something.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
New there, hot on, get know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
I mean people who think that you're not allowed to
change your perception or think that you're not allowed to
learn something different. People hated on Malcolm X when he
did when after he went into his mecca and he
came back and he was like, this is the way
I'm viewing stuff after this, what happened after that?

Speaker 7 (52:13):
Get your hand out of my pocket.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Damn.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
We already know.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Right of the fact that people couldn't handle the fact
that he was allowed to change his mind because people
wanted to see Malcolm X for what they wanted to
see Malcolm X control instead of realizing that he was
three D he is not.

Speaker 7 (52:30):
He was not.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
It was truly liberated.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
And so yeah, when the oppressed see someone that's truly liberated, Yeah,
there's some hate, there's some hare, some envy, some jealousy.
Well I'm not envy, but there's some jealousy there, there's
a threat there, el Is it.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Okay to change your personal values? Who else have you
looked up?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
How many times have you take time off? See the weather?

Speaker 8 (53:01):
Huh? That shit constantly changing. It ain't never the same.
You can attach it. Oh this is rain, Yeah, it's
raining hard at ship outside.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:14):
Oh it's windy, Nigga, it's sixty five miles and our
winds knocking over trucks.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
You ain't just windy?

Speaker 1 (53:23):
What is you?

Speaker 7 (53:24):
What change or eastern?

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Well, let's give this some some some practical because we're
kind of getting airy here, all right. The reason why this,
the reason why this matters is you can select regions
where the climate might be a little.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Bit more warmer.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
I like that Cali weather, But you know, George is
okay too. I would choose Georgia over Michigan, Ohio, New York.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Right, I get to.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Choose beyond beyond the air in which I, you know,
have my values right now. There is a chance that
there's other variables in their other values that I may
not like, Other parts of the weather that I may
not like like. Okay, hey, some of that California heat
might be too much for me.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah, am I willing.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Right, So the weather changes, right, the weather changes, But
there's predictions in that. There's predictions. Hey, okay, what is
the chances of me actually experiencing snow this year?

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Why?

Speaker 4 (54:25):
Because I don't have a car that's built for it's
my environment. I'm preparing myself and how I'm going to
navigate and function in my environment. So the values are
about functioning in your environment. How are you going to
operate in your environment? Is the ship coming from top
down or is it bottom up? Which way is it?
So if we're talking about the weather, I can't control

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the weather, but I can choose where the weather is.

Speaker 8 (54:52):
In most cases you can, you can, but but it's
still it's still it's still the mindset.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
It's gonna check change period.

Speaker 8 (55:01):
You know, you could be in Cali, but then it's
somebody in Minnesota and y'all can look the clock and
have the same time, but y'all experience is different of
the weather, and you're still on this globe.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
You know what I'm saying. So I understand.

Speaker 8 (55:15):
Where you're building that with that, and I'm gonna speak
for King of Newborn.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
You might not like it.

Speaker 8 (55:26):
From a social perspective, but if you refuse to change,
you would delete whatever the future is supposed to be
for you. You have to change, man. The brain is
constantly want to know more and more and more, even
if its subjects itself to bad habits. It wants to

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learn more. It is survival. It wants to learn more,
more input. I want to touch, I want to feel.
I want But then what we do We get stuck
in our uncomfortable offsibility of life. And sometimes that's a
cesspool of pain, cesspool.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
Of struggle, stagnation, hell of stagnation.

Speaker 8 (56:12):
Yeah, refusing to change because I feel like I'm always
gonna be who I was when I was in high school,
or be the spoiled brad I was as a kid.
It is impossible to do that. You can't man in
front the law of a motherfucker. You have to let
it evolve. You have to give you more information. I

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got to continue to download. You can't stay stuck. But
like John said, due to the atmosphere, I can still
pick and choose. I can still pick and choose what
part of this atmosphere I really want to be in.
It is this weather condition for my consumption of living life?
And if it's not, I got the choice to change.

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Maybe I need to move to the south side. I mean,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Right.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
So here we are with the decision to make a commitment, right,
the decision to make a commitment to these changes and values.
Let's just say, for example, all right, we're talking about evolution.
Are your values the same as they were when you
were twenty?

Speaker 9 (57:22):
No doubt?

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Things change?

Speaker 4 (57:25):
Right you learn you said, Okay, I'm gonna probably let
these values go.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I'm exchange them for these. Hey.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
I used to value a whole lot of freedom and spontaneity.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Now I need a little.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
Bit more security, instability in my life, a liability responsibility. Right,
So you may add more values in there, you may
enhance and say I'm gonna keep these. Right, so you
make the change in your values. How do you handle
the social perception of being deemed a hypocrite? Because I'm
all for the whole You know, Hey, I don't have
to explain myself to you. But when John says it,

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I say it with a lot of sugar because I'm like, yeah, no, no,
because if I care about you, me explaining it's a courtesy.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
I don't have to.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
I'm doing this as a courtesy that's just more value
to me being who I am. But I can at
any time, Yes, it's true, I can at any time
not justify the change, not justify the evolution, not explain
the change and values.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
But if I care about this relationship, clearly communicating Hey,
there's been a change in my life and I know
it's going to impact you, and I want this thing
to keep rocking and rolling. So I'm going to communicate
to you these changes and values. How are you going
to adjust? Is this going to change?

Speaker 6 (58:45):
Up?

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Right?

Speaker 4 (58:46):
We're just we're evaluating, right, We're being responsible here. I'm
changing my values. That's going to impact other people. It's
going to impact my social circle, whether it uplifts them
or maybe a they just fall off the branch because
they're too toxic to hang on.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Right.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
It's there's no superiority here. It's just about compatibility. So
I think that part is very important. That Let's just
take for example Snoop. All right, a lot of us
were disappointed, right, We were disappointed that Snoop said one
thing back in twenty sixteen and performatively done something contrary

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to what he said in twenty sixteen. Disappointed right, But
if you look at his brand throughout his whole career,
the scope of his career, right, he's always chased the bag.
Is it really a compromise in his values? We didn't,

(59:48):
we didn't form an agree. We heard what he said, right,
but we're taking what he said within a certain context
at that time and then suddenly applies differently here. But
did we really know who this man is? Like, that's
saying that, that's making the statement. Looking at his whole brand,
he's about getting the bag. His brand is world, it's global, right,

(01:00:09):
So if he's chasing the bag and it's the bag
that we don't agree with, even though he said this,
it's like, is it really a hypocrisy? Because how often
do we see it? How often do we see him
doing that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
And I think we also get it misconstrued that all right,
he never he never made a promise or commitment to us.
So I think that's the other part when it comes
to celebrities, Right, there's this social contract. It's like this
presupposed agreement that if I support you, I'm supporting these values, right,

(01:00:46):
But there's no verbal agree there's no contract, like no
real hard contract. It changes and we have to always
consider that, Yo, when this person gets to this level,
I've never.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Been up here, so I don't know what they're gonna AX.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
I'm supporting them up there, but I don't know what's
going to happen when they get up there, and so
I have these expectations, these attachments, and I'm holding them
accountable to something that they never agreed upon. Right, we
do this as fans, as supporters, we do this. Social
media has made them more accessible, and so if they
do anything that's disagreeable, we call it hypocrisy. We're criticizing them,

(01:01:23):
we're ready to cancel them. But maybe, hey, y'all just
don't understand. You have to be here. You have to
be where I'm at in life. I'm still, you know, down,
but you have to understand where I'm at in life
compels me to change these values. But what if they
don't give you that explanation?

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
Did what you had to do?

Speaker 6 (01:01:45):
Honestly, I mean, and in context of that, they did
what they had to do.

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
It was what worked for you at that time, and
I have to you don't say it is like I've
got a myself, and I feel about this the way
that I feel about.

Speaker 7 (01:02:04):
You know what I'm saying. Do you understand what I'm saying.
It's like I understand why you.

Speaker 8 (01:02:06):
Did it, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
I mean, if that is, if you were always chasing
the bag and you felt like you needed more money.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Whatever it is that you choose.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
Here is here is one of my things with changing values, right,
And I guess I'm looking at this from a marketing standpoint.
You were allowed to do whatever it is that you
want to with your own self, with your own brand,
with your own company, with whatever.

Speaker 11 (01:02:31):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
But when people, when people literally when they start changing
their brand, they start changing the company values and things
of that sort, there's a rollout.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
You know what I'm saying, There is a rollout, and.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
Like you know, it's like like there, let's just say,
I mean, like today's excuse. Goud Level has been talking
about the whole entire time making these small changes in
her life. King King has talked about his journey, you
know what I'm saying, his journey, So that means that
his brand from from thirty six has changed to the

(01:03:07):
age that he's at now. You understand what I'm saying.
It is a gradual progression. It is this this disruption
happens where it's abrupt and it seems out of you
know what I'm saying, and you're allowed to do what
you're allowed to do.

Speaker 5 (01:03:21):
You're allowed to do whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
You want to because you got your own autonomy. But
when it's so abrupt, you know what I'm saying, you'd
be like, that doesn't align. Oh am I, not am I,
and you don't. You don't owe me nothing, right, nobody
owes me anything. I owe myself what I owe myself.
But my thing is that if this is what I
if this is what I saw, and these are the

(01:03:44):
things that you kind of like, you know, like a
company went out with your values with and then they
automatically just change that and it is that abrupt, you'd
be like, nah, man, it's like you know what I'm saying,
Like all of the all of the.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
Brand changed.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
So it's like, yeah, it's almost it's a call for questioning.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
Hey, I can reevaluate this.

Speaker 7 (01:04:03):
Yeah, So I don't put him out for hypocrisy.

Speaker 6 (01:04:06):
I put him out because I was like, this doesn't
align with you know, this was really aup, like this
was completely complete and total left.

Speaker 7 (01:04:14):
I'm just throwing that out there, just there because I
was one of those.

Speaker 4 (01:04:18):
And by the way, Snoop owned up to it, so
it's like, is it really hypocrisy? If he owned up
to it, he's set, you know, And in so many
ways he was like, Hey, I'm still one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Black and that's that right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:30):
And so in a way he's conveying to the fans
very ambiguously, like, yo, you just don't you just don't know,
you know what you what you think you know, and
that's it. I'm still here, I'm still going rep you know.
And it's like, all right, so what do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Right? What is the social reaction to that? So?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
What was it?

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
Half a million? He lost like half a million followers
in that day? Right, But to him, he was he
wasn't phased by it. He wasn't phased by it, right,
So that tends to be when it comes to celebrities.
That's how we treat hypocrisy. When it comes to celebrities.
You know, it's a quick unfollow. It's I'm not gonna
support your cinema, your movies, your your product, your merch,
I'm not gonna support you. So it can be financial,

(01:05:15):
but is it always that easy for everybody else?

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Is it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:22):
We're gonna cut right there. Oh mm hmm, We're gonna
cut right there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
You have like seven I know you have like more questions, yep,
but yeah, we've been one for an hour more than
an hour and five minutes. Right now, I want to
thank everyone for jumping in on tonight's Live. This has
been good. I have learned a lot, especially since I
am rebuilding right now. I literally and it's it's we're

(01:05:56):
gonna have to go backstage talk about this. We're gonna
have to talk about ego.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
Yeah, I want.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
That last question too, and I want to talk about shame.

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
I want that last question of us.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
I definitely want to talk about shame. That's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
John called me a workaholic. Yeah, my feelings was hurt.

Speaker 8 (01:06:22):
But then I had to let I have to soak
in it. And you can't be a workaholic in one
space of your life. You gotta put the reps in
in all the spaces in your life.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
So I appreciate that because for a second, I workaholic.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
I'm like, let me John is just if it's one
thing about John, he is going to be honest. Oh no, no, no, no, no,
no no, he is going to be completely honest.

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
Yeah, I don't say that to say it was it
was a negative.

Speaker 5 (01:07:09):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, I know I know what
you mean. You just wasn't ready. I've had those conversations
with him, and I wasn't ready and I had to
sit with myself. You know, Yeah, I wasn't ready. And
he didn't do it in a in a like malicious way,
like he wasn't here being negative. You know, he was

(01:07:32):
just keeping it, as I will say, a buck And
you gotta respect that. If you don't, we need to
talk about that. Who do you surround yourself with?

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Are you?

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Do you surround yourself with people who enable you to
be who you are? Or do you surround yourself with
people who hold you accountable?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:07:54):
Hold on, real quick, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 11 (01:07:59):
And I think I I really, I really think I
got the good end and stick when it comes to this,
because I have a bunch I'm surrounding myself with a
bunch of people whose opinion I hold over mind, who
I would look at an admire, so it's easier to hear.
So if you're not surrounding yourself with people that you
look up to, that you like or love you.

Speaker 9 (01:08:22):
You gotta you just gotta.

Speaker 7 (01:08:23):
You gotta find a voice.

Speaker 9 (01:08:24):
That you hold over yours.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
You trust, you trust, But look at.

Speaker 9 (01:08:30):
Look at everything, quick quick research. Just look that they
don't have the life that you want.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
That's not the first the example.

Speaker 10 (01:08:40):
Because everybody, we're all a part of each other, so
we all there's an example out there of what the
hell we want. So if you can attach yourself to
that person that got that thing and now you're now
you're surrounded with the people which now I.

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
Got my tribe, it's easy for me.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Mmhmm mhmm.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
And we're gonna leave off on that. No, see you
all back for next week. Or are you really living
according to your values? Part to John you

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
M hm