Are you really living according to your values ? pt 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
God level. You can tell them my setting level up,
God level. You can tell them my setting level up
God level. You can tell them my seting level up
level up, level up.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Everything that means every name connected to everything. And that's why,
and that's why.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Everything all lies, all lies on everything.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
That means everything. It's connected to everything.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Okay, I really want to understand that because I feel
like I have some I just don't know what they are.
Oh man, I really and I'm not ashamed to say
I don't understand. That's why I'm here too long.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
That's the that's the beginning though, that's wanted to learn,
Like I.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Don't know, something is going on with me. But we'll
get into that later. And I'm loving the transition that
I am going through right now, Like I finally understand
I have nothing but I have everything.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Mh.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
That's that's big.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
That is fucking huge. That is huge when you can
get it. I have nothing, but I have everything. God
is good, the ass is bent with spirit, team is good,
everybody that's that's working. That's that's with me right now
on this journey, my tried. I'm falling in love with something.

(01:41):
To put a finger on it just yet but I'm
falling in love with.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
Us with with the type of stability floor now mm hmmm,
as opposed to when everything is up and down, left
and right floor.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
You know you can build up.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm following. Oh I like that, give it a name. Yeah,
it's all about that.

Speaker 7 (02:06):
You got all in.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Love with my solid foundation. Okay. Oh, interesting is things
that people don't want to talk about to you. By
God level. I am originally from Saint Louis, Missouri. I
am a mother, I'm a nurse, I'm an entrepreneur, I
have this podcast, I'm a sister, I'm a friend of
a cousin and my I'm a gigi. I am everything good. John,

(02:31):
you want to go ahead and represent.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yourself John Skywalker the sly talker here lyricists, spoken word artists,
martial artists, personal trainer, lover of life, student of psychology,
and I am a father who has five hip hop
albums streaming on all major music platforms. Now Dimensions, Higher Dimensions,
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Speaker 4 (02:54):
Look for John Skywalker, John Scott Walker.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Salute Sherman. You want to go ahead and represent yourself.

Speaker 7 (03:05):
Well, I am Sherman.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
Vaughn I'm just as much a listener and a learner
as the audience.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Can't wait to get into this.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, we were just talking about that, okay, and to
go and make sure I have everything posted. What are
your personal values and what is a personal value to you?
And John was just explaining some things to me because
I'm I'm in a transition phase where I'm leaving the
old behind and creating the new. So what are my

(03:38):
personal value? So I'm in that beginning stages of of
recreating what is valuable to.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Me and okay, is valuable to me to me? Inventory?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Peace, peace, I like that you said stability, the love, realness,
you know, trust, Uh. I have come in contact with
all of that, the togetherness of family, happiness, joy, you know.

(04:18):
The change has been amazing and I hope to just continue.
So I'm just I'm rediscovering some things.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
So how did you come across those values, like in
terms of like selecting them choosing them.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's what I've experienced since I've been here. That's what
I've experienced, and this is the this is that's the
opposite of what I was experiencing in Saint Louis. So
when you when you finally come out of that storm, chaos, destruction,
and it's peace and the and the sun is shining
and the birds chirping. You got the trees, you know,

(04:56):
blue skies, cool weather. It's I like it here. I
like the way this feels. I like the love. I
like the togetherness. I like the honesty. I like the stability.
I like the peace. I love the peace. You can't
put the price on that. You just really can't. The

(05:21):
peace and the and having ooh another one, safe space.
Having a safe space is important to growing. Being able
to sit and grieve because I was grieving, yeah, and

(05:43):
letting go and not being beat down while you're doing it,
just allowing for it to flow outwardly and in its
own timing, not forcing it, you know, but just allowing
it to come up. The book that you sent me,

(06:04):
let go, allowing it to come up, and let it
go and let it out.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I just you can't fight it. Fighting it only makes
it worse when you push it back down. And I
had a habit of doing that all of my life.
When things happened to me, I would just push it
down and give it the old fuck it phase when
you when you say fuck it, that's equivalent to shooting

(06:35):
that putting, brushing that dirt up under the rug. You're
gonna say fucking too many times and you're gonna have
a lump in your rug. You gotta deal with things
as they come and and let it go and release it.
So yeah, it's the piece is real. So that's what

(06:56):
I'm falling in love with the thing. So I don't
want anything coming into my life to disturb what I
am creating for myself. Right now, we'll cut your throat,

(07:16):
leave me alone, let me be, you know, let me,
let me purge that space and then let me refill
it with love, because you know, I don't want to
walk around with any type of ugliness that I've had,
that I've endured. I don't want that. That's not for me.

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I can't be the best version of myself walking around
carrying baggage. So okay, that's sharre.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
What are some of your personal values? And how did
you come across.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
From failure.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Bout my head? Because of I had good.

Speaker 7 (08:06):
Guidance, I had to search for it. Shout out to
all the people that worked at BJC.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
When I was nineteen, I ran into a lot of
men that took me under their wing. Then, so my values,
I'm pretty much what mister Nate is, creating new spaces
being okay. I'll keeping love first, always being okay with
the failure.

Speaker 7 (08:33):
It's the quickest way to learn.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
Just jump into it, because there when you find out
there is no fire to jump into, is it really?

Speaker 7 (08:42):
It takes you to a new place. There is the
only fear that's on the other side of the do
it is you stupid?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
Nothing else?

Speaker 7 (08:51):
And when you find out that's you, that's when you
started to laugh. I can't believe I was scared of this.
You might, you might cry bloody murder.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
To that new about that new step, that new revelation,
whatever you want to call it. But it's worth it.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
It is, it's worth it.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
So love, discipline, respect, reputation, consistency.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Oh, that's that's what I'm building on.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
That's what I'm building on. That's why.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, this is the shift.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I don't know, something's in the air. I promise you
this is a shift. This is a shift, and I
love it.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I only want people who are vibrating on what I
am putting out there right now surrounding me. Anything less
than that is a waste of my time because I
have good energy and I just and I just I
want to give it and I want to receive it.
I don't want to just give, give, give, give, give.

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I want to give it and I want to receive it.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
So reciprocity is one of your values.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
See, did not just say I do it and I
don't know the name of it. Yeah, I do it. Yeah,
that's where I'm at right now.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah you oh man.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
So before I go dig into mind, right, I just
want to say to the audience that defining your values
requires some self reflection. Uh, you got to ask yourself
some questions. Essentially, what matters the most to me? What
principles do I stand for even when it's difficult. Where

(10:29):
do I feel the most fulfilled, the most proud when
it comes to my activities. Those type of questions are
going to help you uncover your values and what really
is significant to you and what supports your goals, your interests,
your behaviors, your attitudes. So, you know, I just wanted

(10:53):
to put that out there just to kind of preface
how we arrive at this right and why it's important.
Pragmatism and optimism are some of my cherished values. Now
that doesn't mean that I devalue things like creativity, innovation,
or skepticism. Those are actually my values too. Healthy skepticism

(11:15):
is my value. Let me clarify that, because you got
some scientists out there that say skepticism is like, nah,
some of y'all are unhealthy.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Y'all are toxic skeptics.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
But aspect of my personality is being upbeat, positive, and
so that's where the optimism comes from.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
But I also had some influence from Christianity.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
That's why I don't really bash because I'm like, yo,
despite the relationship, I got some great things out of there.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
You just gotta know where to look.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
You gotta know what to keep, and I know what
to keep, right, So Christianity and my mother, All right, well,
let me put it like this, my mother's flavor of Christianity.
It was how she express that taught me how to
see the good in all things and hence my optimism. Right,

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And then I learned that resilience and optimism have a relationship.
So now resilience is a value of mine because you know,
I went through childhood trauma, childhood sexual trauma, combat, PTSD, divorces, fractures,
to my family. You gotta be able to bounce back
from stuff like that, right. Pragmatism kind of comes from

(12:32):
my background in j r RTC military service as well,
But I value it because it allows me to solve
problems more efficiently.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
And I'm a man, you know, and most men like
to just solve problems. You know.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
There's some cultural conditioning in there too, right, So yeah,
maybe it's a gender thing as well. Maybe there's some
gender identity influence up in there. But I just I
like to be efficient. I like to be realistic. I
like to temper my expectations, and pragmatism allows me to
do that. But then there's things like you know, love, generosity,

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the virtues patience, kindness, understanding, compassion, empathy.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Patience, you know, empathy.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
I embody those principles. I embody those values because they work.
And so when it seems like certain values like okay,
self love, self love could conflict with my generosity, right,

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So let's just say, for example, I like to be
generous with you know, my words, and I like to
be generous with my time. But at some point there
needs to be a limit, right, I have to be
able to take care of myself. Maybe, Ay, I really
don't want to be around you, but I like to
be generous, selfless service, I like to be of service.
So well, at some point this value is going to

(14:02):
clash with my value, you know, for I don't know inner.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Peace, stability, right, quiet?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh I love quiet, and so I'm an introvert that
energy exchange drains me. So at some point I gotta
cut I gotta cut it off, right.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
It clashes.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Someone could say, oh, John, you're not really generous. And
feedback is important when it comes to the expressions of
your values.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
You know your values from the inside out. You can
identify it in other people, like oh, okay, that's kindness,
Oh that's wisdom. Right, you can identify it outside of you, right,
But it's a continuum, and you need feedback to affirm
that you are portraying what you seek to portray. So
if I say I'm kind and I'm a patient man,
or I'm a great father, I need evidence of that.

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But I need a feedback from my environment for that.
So if you say I'm not that generous, I might
question you. And the thing is, I'm supposed to trust
your feedback. I'm supposed to trust your judgment. But what
happens when you don't confirm or affirm what I'm putting
out there. Now, I have a conflict. Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Is my perception of myself distorted?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Or it's yours? And if it's yours, and it's like,
is that intentional?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Right?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
And so that's what we're dealing with in the world.
We're seeing a lot of values conflicting. Yeah, right, people
are kind of oh man, I'm not okay, I'm gonna
be nicer. People are not doing the homework. Right, We're
not doing the homework. We're not refreshing our value. We're
not refreshing our values.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Okay. It's like.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
The that we're the part that enacts the suffering is
we don't inventory our values. So the values you got
at twenty two, okay, they should have evolved, you know,
in a couple of years because you learn had a
wealth of experiences, and out of that, you should be
changing your values because things happen, and hey, there's a

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place that you don't want to be. So if you
don't want to be at this place, you're gonna have
to change something. It's probably gonna be your values. Along
with a slew of other things right and they boom
thirty five hits, forty hits. You got a family, or
you got two kids, or shoot, your kids just went
off right. Situations change. Why aren't you inventorying your values
to see if something changed, your situation changed. Hey, you've

(16:32):
probably got a bigger bag. Now you're making six figures? Yeah,
but are your value still intact with those six figures?

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Oh? You're making seven?

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Now?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Are your values still intact to get that seven? Are?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Are you treating people differently because you got that money,
because you got that job position, because you're single, because
you go to this church and not this church anymore
because you got across a new her group. Are your
values changing according to the situation or are they stable?

(17:07):
And then, of course your your values can evolve within themselves.
Like you can get better at patients, infinitely better at patients,
You can get infinitely better at compassion. It's just how
strong is your compassion? Can it withstand every act? Do
you want it to withstand every act? Because sometimes maybe

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you're like, man, fuck compassion, it has a limit.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
It has a limit.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I will be compassionate, but yo, after some point, I'm
taking out an elbow, I'm taking out a kneecap, And
even then I'll probably still say, yo, I was being
compassionate right there, because I could have took out both,
you know, continuums, continuums.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Did you urge? He's saying it, Yeah, yeah, it took
out both.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yeah, because I and what I like. What I like
the most about what John said is he came to it.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
He came to it at a good angle. I think
that's the best angle to go at it, because we can't.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
We can't speak to us in a hurt manner or
an angry manner.

Speaker 7 (18:24):
We automatically refuse.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
So it seems like it seems like how we get
through today, take a.

Speaker 7 (18:30):
Motion out of it.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Mm hm.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Plain plainly lay.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
The information and advice the question whatever you're landed, landed,
just plainly just there it is. This is what I know,
this is my experience, this is where I came from,
and this is what happened to me.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
I could ball that up and just give.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
You a question if you whatever, whatever you're willing to
do with it, that's gonna pertain.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
If we go forward, or if we say what we are,
and I'll just keep you in that box.

Speaker 6 (18:55):
So I love the angle because we don't. We don't
respond well to any type of emotion for real. If
you're too happy, you'll get hated on, if it's too
if it's too raw, they'll tell you doing too much.
You have to take the emotion out of it and
give them the opportunity to be like, hey, these are
my two cents, because they have to are people right now,
they're not, they're not so ready to listen, but they

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have to have.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
You have to.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
They have to give them brig crumbs to show their value.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Because they don't know them most of the time, and
I think most don't know their values.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
They're just going.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Off of every day freestyle.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
So whatever changes is what changes.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
We will change it on the fly.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
Because if you hear your you hear a celebrity tell
you one thing, and you hear doctor Saby tell you another.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Thing, I like him bore, and that just that change you.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
You won't even think.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
About Brussels sprotts. But you're going with your celebrity.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
So it's a continuum. Yes, m h m hmm. I
like that.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, when you're too raw.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
We can't we can't take it yet, we can't take it,
we can't take up, we can't take down.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
We can only take the middle.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
Mmmm, that's why rest in peace.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
I understood him as a man, But I heard plenty
of women not understanding that, mister Kevin Samuels, heard plenty
of women not being able to hear his message because
of how he said something.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
So if he would have took a motion out of
it and just laid it plainly, and.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
I look at that looked for so much of a
show or I high moment, I think it would have
went clear, a little bit more clear.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
That's all I want, And that's.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
That's really one of my ver I want to be clear.
I want to be I want you to be understood,
and I want to be understood.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Clarity yeah, Clarity yeah in the communication. Yeah, that means
the flow of energy.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
As soon as I have that flow of energy, mind
is so powerful. It doesn't matter if you're negative, I'm
going to beat you. So if we have that clarity,
if we have if we have a connect, I got you.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
There's trust. There's trust too, and clear communication. There's trust,
and it's like, well, why is the trust foundational? I
mean again, if you're trying to evolve together, you got
to have trust. If you got a family, you have
a family meaning you guys are trying to not just survive,
but you're trying to thrive, and thriving meanings gross. So
you' all trying to grow together. In order to grow together,

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you got to have that trust. And that trust is
in that clear communication. It's I see you and you
see me.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
We were here, we here.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Don't get it to you know, it's that don't get
it twisted. That's why it's a big Hey, folks, is
out here confused right now?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
Clarity Let's be clear. Yeah, we got a wire.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
But but moving on, are there universal values we should
all live by or is it all subjective.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
We should be living.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I did.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
What I can't pronounce it said again starts with an
r oh.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
The reciprocity, Yeah, of.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
The flow money. I was teaching this girl at work
who went to the store for me. I gave her
a little bit more. I don't even say a little
bit more. I gave her more than what was needed
for what I wanted. And when she came back, she
made the statement, she said, you always give me more
than what is required. I said, because you're doing something

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before me. I'm not just trying to have you go
out there getting your car, use your gas to go
to the store. I said, it keeps the flow. And
she was getting ready to send it back. I said,
don't that is for you. I said, don't block your
blessings doing it. I said, you're stopping the flow of
prosperity coming to you because you didn't think that you
deserved it. But you did a task, you know, whether

(22:54):
how small it was. You want to go pick up
some food here, thank you. This is my way of
saying thank you. She just looked at me and I said,
don't don't block your lessons when you do that. Let
it keep going, you know. So she was just like okay,
and I'm like, to me, that's something little, that's little

(23:16):
to me. But she didn't know.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
And I'm like, so, yeah, that's a really strong point
because you know, there are people out here, you know,
me and the wife was talking about this, you know,
as an auxiliary, right, there are people out here that
are just impulsive givers, right, and there are these expectations

(23:39):
that are forming when you give, get right.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
It's like, where does that come from?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
A lot of the times those impulsive givers are not
giving from an authentic place. So if you're putting this
principle of reciprocity in there, right, they have this, they
have this false belief of abundance, right because the abu
loundance isn't just all right, it's pouring out, it's also
coming in. You're recognizing it's coming in and it's going out.

Speaker 4 (24:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
So somebody could be such an impulsive giver that they
are afraid, afraid to take something that they give right,
So here it is, it's coming in. You do tap
into this supply, but you don't allow the supply to
give to you. Also, you're just here to chauffeur the
supply to somebody else.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
And then on the back end you complain that.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Nobody cares about you or nobody gives back. But when
they try to give back, it's never good enough. It's
not the way that you give it. Reciprocity, right, Yeah,
supposed to be reciprocity.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
You give this good attitude in the moment.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Right in that moment, it may feel like, oh I
really feel this way, But then here it is, the
universe says, okay, I want to give that back to
you so that you can do it again.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
And you say no, and then you keep saying no.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
All at the while you're a victim of your own
circumstance and you think it's everybody against you. Reciprocity. This
is the principle of reciprocity. You want to recip you
want people to reciprocate, but you don't want to reciprocate
either because you're in the mindset of, well, I'm.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Giving, Okay, we'll open your hands. No I can't. Yeah,
why not, because I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I had to learn that myself though, I really did.
I felt that taking and I figured out where that
came from, and then I had to get rid of
that original idea of where it came from. And I thought, yes,
I am stopping the flow by saying though, hm. So yeah,
I had to learn that myself. So now I'm teaching

(25:53):
someone else about it.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Yeah, or the universal value?

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Yeah, yeah, I do, I definitely think so. I'm very
I'm very simple. So I go straight to the core.
I think as soon as you're able to recognize what
love is, I think you got it because everything.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Falls under that umbrella. It's a beautiful umbrella.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
It teaches you how to give so you can receive
teaches your life as a circle and.

Speaker 7 (26:24):
You get in what you put out. So if you
put in.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Enough work, you'll always see results. The universe just don't
let you down like that. You gotta work with it,
gotta trust it. I think you'll always find a high ground.
So yeah, if people understood and recognize what love was
or love.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
Is, but you gotta be able to see it. Everybody
doesn't have that example.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
That's why so many things that're skewed, and it's so
many things that's different. That's because the soul pinnacle at
the very very bottom ain love. You don't know what
it is. Soon as you figure out what that is,
like gets a lot easier because you realize the son
was always shining, the birds were always there, and the
grass was always their green.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, okay, are there universal algebes should all live by?

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (27:19):
And I think, uh, I don't mean to cut you off.
Don't be trying to live my brothers here. Diana is
the only one that be bringing terrs to my eyes.
Now I got you. Oh my god, that hit home.
Thank you, Oh man, thank you, Shary. Let's do your thing.

(27:45):
I'm sorry, John, Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yeah, I know that the United nations. They made an
attempt to propose some universal values for us all to
live by. And you know, it's sort of like the
best that we could do globally, right collectively. But I mean,
even if you look at the religious systems, you know,
they a lot of them have things in common, themes

(28:10):
that are in common, values that are in common, you know,
like trust, fairness, justice, righteousness.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yet love, love is you know, it's the thing.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, And then even love has a subset, right, Love
has a subset of values that we all share.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
So and it's like.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Who recognizes it, right, So it becomes a currency. But
that currency isn't respected everywhere. Right, So everybody don't respond
Everybody don't they're not.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Everybody doesn't respond to kindness with kindness.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Everybody doesn't respond to empathy with empathy. But everybody also
doesn't respond to apathy with apathy or anger either, you know.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
So it could be yo, you're trying to.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
You're trying to be I don't know, angry with me, right,
and my vibration could be so high that I just
you know, flesh out another.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Value of my.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Own compassion understanding, Oh, I understand why you're mad?

Speaker 4 (29:14):
Right?

Speaker 2 (29:15):
And then boom that could overpower that value because there's
a conflict there, right, But it's still a matter of
choice here in terms of manifesting these these principles. But
on the contrary, it is subjective, right, right, because like

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I said, everybody doesn't respect the value. They don't respect
the currency, they don't recognize the currency. We were just
watching the episode of The Wire, right, and one of
the boys, one of the young boys on there, he
was molested by his brother's father.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Right. I don't remember the names. I'm kind of in it.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
But I know what you're talking about, right, And so
this guy right here, you're looking at his evolution, and
poverty will make you compromise a lot of your values.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
So here it is, this guy has been molested, and
you just gotta wonder, right, that situation is very unique,
it's very unique to that place. But if someone tries
to be nice to him, like the boxer guy, the mentor,

(30:32):
someone tries to be nice to him. You know, you're
looking at the environment and it makes sense someone's trying
to be nice to him. He's looking at it through
the eyes of sexual trauma. He's looking at it like
I can't trust people that are nice to me. Value conflict.
I don't trust this, but I trust this because this
is what I know, and I'm afraid to know what

(30:54):
this is. And so boom, you know. Our values can
be clouded by our emotion. This is what you know.
A brother here was saying, if you're trying to clarify
your values, you got to settle the dust so you
can really look at it, because your feelings could be
pimping you. Your situation could be pimping you. Right if

(31:14):
I put you in a situation where all right, hey,
so what you're gonna do. You're gonna get on this pole,
You're gonna suck this.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Or or are.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
You gonna take the role let's travel by and you
know it's gonna be hard, but hey, if you stick
with it, you're gonna surface with your dignity intact, right.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
But real quick. That's what I am.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Am.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
I love what John said it because just as much
as love can be recognized when you see it and
when it's tangible and we can experience it, is too. Yes,
everything won't look the same to everybody, because if you're
used to I can call you a stupid motherfucker and
you'll be like yeah, you're right. But if I call
it man, you're a good gentleman. What you mean, I'm
why are you talking like that? It's already a wall

(32:02):
up it because they're so used to chaos. You have
to become chaotic. You just got to recognize with people
that that's it.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
I just I really feel I feel with.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Johnson, some people are only recognized chaos.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
I can't recognize the other side, you know.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And that's just and you know, and it's just it's
a statement, right, It's a declaration. It's just okay, we
say that's the fact that then all right, now that's
that's that.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
What next?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
You know, if and if they recognize it the way
that we recognize it, then you would change.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
The organism isn't the The organism is deemed intelligent when
they respond to change appropriately. There's been a change in you,
a maladaptive change, meaning you adapted in the wrong way.
There's been a change in you, and you're refusing to
change back or change up.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
You're going to stay with it.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's changed that just had This was not a part
of your programming, but it guy introduced and you took
it you and embodied it. The intelligent organism recognizes, h oh,
something's wrong.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
This ain't it. This ain't the move.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Let me investigate my values, make sure I'm on the
right track. Up, you made a wrong turn at fourth Street. Okay,
let me get back on track.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
The correction, that's discipline. The correction is discipline. And so
if you have any value, you also want to have
discipline in your values to keep it all together, to
make sure that, ay, I can actually commit to these values.
I can actually commit to them long enough to see
the fruits of these values.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
All this is important.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
So you know, values color our character, right, It's all
about who you are.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
You attract who you are. So if you got these values.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Acting things within that value, that's the true abundance. The
money is like, Okay, that's a tool. You getting caught
up in the tool. It's like it's like getting excited
about a computer. You know, the real value, the real
value is in the person, the person's ability to manifest

(34:22):
their vision right and the vision of themselves. So here
I am. I'm compassionate and all that I do, I'm compassionate.
But then there's exceptions, right, because I also believe in
self defense and justice.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
I believe that. Okay, I have the.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Right to teach you ask a lesson if you violate justice,
and you have the right to teach me a lesson
if I violate that's respect.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
So here it is we're looking at the effects of
these values. Are we questioning the effects of these values?
The origin is within you. You could have gotten your
values from your church, from your school, from your teacher,
got him from Master p. You could have got them
from Trina Mia ex Will Smith. Right, but are you

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taking responsibility for those values because.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
They're bringing effects to your life?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
It's right around you if you don't change up the values,
And why do you expect anything?

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Okay, I can remove.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
You anything else change Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Like your your environment is in a sense compatible.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
With who you are, right, because you gotta think. You
gotta think.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
There's certain kind of plants that thrive in certain environments, right, right,
It's just like okay, why why don't certain flowers, you know,
bloom in the dark. But then there's other ones that
can you think about that? Like, Okay, this soil is
conducive to this seed. People are the same way. If

(35:55):
you put a human in this condition, he's going to
turn out this way. If you put him in this, Oh,
he's going to turn out this way if you put
her in this inc you know you in a sense,
it's not just you becoming a product of your environment.
You are the environment, and then you're making products of that.
You know you're the environment and you're making products of
your environment.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Okay, always be a product of your environment. If that's
the case, I should still be living across the street
from the peabodies in Saint Louis.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Like, Mr, No, hope, I like this question.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Uh oh, I like this.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Go ahead, sermon, count do you stay accountable to your value?
And your value is when no one's watching, man, I
find out what checklists you want to keep. And discipline
is first, because you have to find value in the

(37:02):
value that you're trying to teach yourself or if you're.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Trying to strengthen whichever one.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
And a telltale test for me, I find valuating people.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
I find value with people. I try to I try
to speak, I try to see where they at. I
try I try to let them know where I'm at.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
And because every relationship is a mirror, you can see
your values and you can see where you're at. Because
ken only attracts ken you're only attracting what you are.
So if you're not liking what you're attracting, it's still
something you ain't fixed.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
You got to look inward and you got to keep doing.
You gotta keep doing it. Can't give up when you say,
I'm just meeting the same people. That's just how I am.
That's just how life is. Something that.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
You don't give up. Keep failing, keep failing, and then
you don't wind up. I really got a good not
a good person, got a good friend today into a
lot of business telling me I can do this, I
can do that, and he got a blueprint. Don't walk
me through, not just take my money, and you don't
walk me through. Now you're now you're starting to give

(38:11):
value because you holding on to the value that you
now set as a president, and you're standing ten toes
on it.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
M It's just it's just you get in what you
put out. It's a circle. You put enough respect, you
put enough love into yourself, everything around you a feeling.
That's that's what I think.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Mmm, God level.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
You know, I'm learning how do you stay accountable to
your value? And no one is watching. I'm in love
with recreating what feels good to me. So I don't
want anything else right there, I don't want to entertain
anything else. Something I do need to work on anger,

(39:01):
being slow to anger. And you know, when I'm by myself,
I just peace. I choose peace, all right.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So for John h to stay accountable to my values
when no one is watching. But see, the thing is,
there is someone watching. There's always there's always someone watching.
I'm watching, m okay, So as long as I'm watching,

(39:36):
I'm staying accountable because I know what I'm looking for. Yeah,
the main thing is self awareness, right, I'm a high
self monitor, very introspective, believe it or not introverted. But

(39:57):
I'm you know, I can adapt. I can adapt. I
am very I am very interested in myself. It could
seem like I have a big ego, right, but really
I believe firmly, firmly, firmly that I am the most
interesting man in the world. And the reason why is

(40:20):
because I'm always here with me. I'm not looking for
anybody else but me, So why wouldn't I be the
most you see?

Speaker 4 (40:28):
How funny? Yeah it's funny because it.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Doesn't it make sense? Right, So this is my value
self love. I love myself so much that I can
make that statement and it's not fluffed. I can substantiate
it in my practice and my behaviors, and then it's yeah,
it's in the speech, but it's the speech is coming

(40:53):
from the life, the living of it, right, This is
the living the value out loud, and so I can
speaking on what I'm living and they're strengthen that.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
Right.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
So it's like it's a it's a feedback loop. It's
a feedback loop. If I ain't feeling that, if I
ain't feeling that confident that light that, if I ain't
feeling it, I'm holding myself accountable to that feeling. Like, oh,
shoot boy, you better don't ignore that feeling, John, what happened?

Speaker 4 (41:24):
What happened? Bro?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You tripping? Ooh what happened? You off kilter? You ain't
up here anymore? You ain't bouncing?

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Yeah? Right, self talk self, you know? Right.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
So this is why I'm able to be a personal trainer,
a life coach, because what I'm giving to my clients
is what I give to myself daily.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
It's just it's not it's not as pronounced. It's just so.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
It's it's a movement. You know, like, it's not a
I don't have to break it down. I can, I can,
but I don't have to break it down. It's just
it's a movement. It's just there, you know. The programming
is just there. So that's how that's how you do it.
It's it's a constant self awareness. Everyone's talking about being
woke on a social level, but it's like, yo, you
gotta be woke to yourself, you know, like in terms

(42:19):
of everybody else and everything else out here.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
If you're not woke to.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yourself, Like, man, you're missing a big picture here. Like
he said, it's all a mirror.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
You're looking at you everywhere you go, So why are
you here in this part?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
This part?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Like you could have been anywhere, but why are you here?
Why did you choose to be here? Are you watching
this part of the movie? This is self awareness. You
have to really.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
Want to look at you, not want.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Everybody else to look at you, but you want to
look at you. Yeah, and you're so interesting, right, You're
you're mainly focused on looking at you. Doesn't mean that
you're selfish. You're self centered as in your center than
yourself right, and everything is a projection you're like, hey,
I am in all of these aspects, in all of

(43:14):
these spaces, I am all.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Right, So.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
At forty three minutes in all right, let's keep it going.
Let's keep it going. How do you reconcile when your
values clash, like choosing between honesty and kindness or freedom
and security?

Speaker 4 (43:31):
How do you reconcile peace?

Speaker 3 (43:36):
What does bring me the most peace? I'm just a
peace Do you hear me? That is my stance? Peace? Okay, peace?
Even my sister, I'd be liked, did I do that correctly?
Because I'm not trying to put nobody off. I just
I want peace.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
It sounds like in in in your activity, right, in
your attitude, you're always thinking what is the most peaceful resolve?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (44:12):
Yeah, okay, keeping it peaceful? Yeah? So peace is always
the question. It's okay, where's the piece?

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Where's you?

Speaker 4 (44:27):
So? It's is it like a.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
So it's a constant search, right, it seems like it's
a constant search. You're looking for it. But if you
don't see it, I mean, where do you see?

Speaker 4 (44:42):
What happens if you don't see it? Like or do
you event do you eventually see it?

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah? I mean honesty and kindness. Yeah, yes, you're going
to see it. You're going to see it.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Peace this mm hmm, because I mean some people ain't
got no faith in that, you know, Like when when
you say it, you know you're gonna see it. It's like,
I mean, I'm still not convinced you're gonna have that.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Those folks like.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
That's fine, that's them.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
All right, it's a choice. It's a choice.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah, what's peace for me? That's that's them. I don't
have to do with them. No, I have to do
what's best for Renee and maintaining peace for Renee.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
All right, look at that? Look at that?

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Okay, Well autonomy you respect autonomy?

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Self determination?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, yes, the ability to determine yourself, to determine who
you are, how you think, how you feel. What about
your sharre? How do you reconcile when your values clash?

Speaker 6 (45:55):
Well, it's a lot of the same. Thank God, love
it just really cut out.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Yeah, it makes it makes a lot of sense to me.
I always stack up, always stack up.

Speaker 6 (46:09):
So whatever, So whatever situation comes about, if stern and respect,
you know, class, I'm gonna see which one is higher.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
So if it's sterness, I'm standing ten toes to what
I believe.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
I always stack my stack those two emotions up or
what however many emotions up against that value, I stack
it up against that wall on whichever one is the highest,
that's the one to go with.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
So I feel like I got to attack something with love,
That's what I do. If I feel like I have
to be respectful, that's what I do.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
If I feel like I have to be stern and
stay in tintoes, that's what I do. I'm not because
I'm I'm always running with my good feeling. Because when
I've been running by that things been working, it's more
of a joke.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
It's more of a get up, like do it. That's
your good feeling.

Speaker 6 (46:53):
It seems like when you're finally okay with failing, with
being angry, when you're finally okay with loving the human experience,
you find your purpose. So all those questions they'll come
easy every single time because you'll know what to put
in because you've had so much experience. Because I'll be honest,

(47:15):
I'm antrovert to and I overthink a lot of things.
I like to compartmentalize it and go through it in
a little file cabin. That's what I call my brain,
pick out something, look at it. Okay, this is a problem.
How do I fix it? Because I'm willing to ask
the question because I'm not afraid to walk through the
fire anymore.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Because so as I walk through it, it wasn't nothing but
a cool breeze. I made it a fire.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
This is growth. I love it, all right.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
So this is essentially about strategies, right, This is about strategy.
One strategy is clarified, right, call it for what it
is is. Because if you're vague, you're just kind of flailing.
You know, you don't really know what's going on, all right,
So this is when your values are classed, right. I

(48:11):
think it's also about measuring the outcome. You know, what's
the cost? You know, I could be brutally honest and
it might fuck up a friendship.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
But then there's also all.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Right, well maybe I can just be compassionate. You know,
freedom might feel a little bit sweet. I don't know, right,
but looking at the outcomes, a lot of the times
you can justify the principle by the outcome, the desired outcome.
Sometimes there's overlap. Sometimes you can find like a middle ground, right,

(48:48):
you can try honesty and kindness.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Hey, I care.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
About you, So let me say this, right, Sometimes you
can find some balance, and then there's of course, just
the you know, the straight up pick and choose, pick
and commit. Commit, Oh my gosh, commit to your choice, yes, man.

(49:14):
So sometimes, and it's very easy. It's very easy. You
make a choice and you think, and usually it's here.
First you make the choice in your mind first, okay,
before you move, you make the choice in your mind.
So it might be something like, all right, I'm gonna
be a little bit more nicer to him, and then
he does something that annoys you and then suddenly up

(49:37):
fuck it and you just give up. Right, But yesterday
you made it up in your mind, right, and at
that time it felt very true, and maybe you overestimated
your strength, your self control.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Maybe you overestimated right.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
But before you make the decision, evaluate your commitment level. Right,
just again, this is about being real, Okay. You don't
want to keep wasting your own.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Time because I saw you do it. It's just so
excessive and it's exhausting.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You know, it's exhausted, and you just do it because
you don't know anything else. But I'm just saying, slow
it down, make a decision on which value you want
to commit to, and just commit to that shit and
just see what happens, all right, I think reflecting on

(50:34):
the fallout. All right, so let's just say you make
because this is a learning process, right, Sometimes you just
have to fuck around and find out and then check
the damage.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
Okay, good old.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Trial of there her Right yep, So did the kindness
leave them clueless or did it you know, enlighten them?

Speaker 4 (51:00):
Right? Boom, this was the data.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Now let me see if I can tweak it next
time on the next person. Right, you're trying to refine
it and find like you're trying to refine your kindness,
your values, your virtues to where it's like water. You know,
you know how to harden it up. You know how
to soften it up. You know you air bending out
in this bitch.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
You can in anything.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Yeah. Okay, I'm rocking with that. I'm rocking. I'm rocking
with that.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
I mean, and that's real, by the way, because air principles. Yeah,
your air bending out in the air. Ye, you're communicating, right.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Air is about communication, it is it definitely is.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
That was perfect.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
One of my favorite cross from Bruce Lee that's my gap.
That's my gap. I hold him very close. Water that's
always dope, and that's that's.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Always what I strike because to be honest, crazy enough,
I really understood that from about twenty one up.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Water can it do anything. It can leave, it can
be stirred, it can flow. You can turn the eyes,
it can turn your brain.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
It can give you a little bit, you can give
you a lot. You can fit into that small crack.
It gets fit into that gap. It's just it means everything. Yeah,
when I was little, we're getting it with. It's another
story for another time. But when I was little, I
thought water was got And as I grew up, stuff
started to make sense.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
And by the way, this is why I love the
martial arts, right, because there's the practical side, right, It's
all the moves, the flashy shit, right, the breaks and
the bricks, that's the practical side. Yeah, there's the spiritual
side of martial arts, right, it's all of that. It's
all of that that makes the practical stuff possible.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Right.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
So you think a straight line that you can't play
both sides, that you can't play both sides of the
fence because if you do it. If you jump over you,
they're gonna put your ass back over there. You stay,
you can because and something that I learned even.

Speaker 6 (53:19):
When I was young, and this is from a sense
a stand firm and what you believe, because you can
say sorry and explain yourself later.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Because even if you're not right, this is what I chose.
This is I did the best with the best that
I had.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
M because you can becon understanding because I mean, it's
your path, right in your path, you have the right
to teach people.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
And so if you're wrong, respectfully, I was wrong. I
was just this hard.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
I learned from it. That's why you know. It ain't
no ego. It's like, all right, my.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Bad, Yeah, my bad, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
My bad. All right, switch on the path?

Speaker 6 (53:59):
Could you can still learn? Stop thinking. I'm thinking a
person is stuck where they're at. If they're showing you
that they can learn, I'll just brush them off. It's
something to be celebrated.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
At the same time, it needs to be watched so
you can make sure they're not just talking.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Mmmm.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Again, you just gotta think just from a life perspective, Okay,
the game is just to be here, right to exist.
You gotta have a certain set of power skill sets
to just exist in this bitch. Okay, you got all
these obstacles out here, just so any ways for you
to get take it out.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
So you gotta have a certain kind of grace about you.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
And then you gotta be able to maneuver around other
people you don't know who is doing what.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
You gotta have a certain like you gotta have.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Some superpowers to navigate this bitch and so so to
have these principles, this is about enhancing your quality of life.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
It's the way you move. It's the way you move like.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
It could be very magical or it could be dirty, nasty, disgusting,
like you the way you move it.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Ooh, you don't even want to be a part of
hell now.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I'm sorry, go ahead, because watching YouTube.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Is amazing. So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
And it's like that you're again in the simplest way,
before this technology, before this capitalism, it used to be
about that the values, the character of a person, the personality,
right you you was like connected to that, like dang,
look at the look at his bounce man, look at

(55:39):
her flow?

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Right, it's just the being, it's the.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Person and you like, ah, you're just trying to get
with that, just connect with it, right. So when people
are not in alignment with their values, they're paying the
lip service. You know, they're broadcasting on the surface what
it is, and then you get in there and it
ain't what it is. It fucks up your ship too, right,
it fucks up your game, it sucks up the play,

(56:04):
fucks up the playing right. And you give enough people
doing that, and well, the whole world's in chaos.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
That's why, that's why, that's why your son and your
daughter can't go down the street, get a whooping by
mister Johnson, get in trouble with miss Jackson, and then
come back home and get in trouble by daddy because you.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Don't respect their values. You don't even know yours.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
I can't trust anybody when you don't know your own values.
We lost that, we lost our connection that was Severn
one another. It's a few, it's a few that we
still have it. This trip has it.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Oh, definitely, it's an open it's an open floor energy.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
That's why it's therapeutic.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Makes sense, And thank you for answering the call. I
put it out that John's always talking to you. I
gave Sherman a shot this time, and Sherman did not disappoint.
He was there, he was vulnerable and I appreciated that, like,
oh this is he real, he real real.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
You know again, just just think in your history again,
it's like, dang, you know I had John for that
and now I have Now you got more abundant, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
And it's just yea, you open yourself to it.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Yes, I did, and it's great, ah man.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
And and just again you understand the formula though, right,
but you've just been living it, but you gotta take
time to you know, read it. You know you're right
in it and living it right, but you got to
read it sometimes this is your formula. So again, just
being open to the idea of you know, these good
black men being out here that could change the whole dramatic.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
Yeah, because I think I honestly believe that it's not
on your race or you're not looking for it. That's
a that's a main that's the main reason why we
can go into the grocery store. Never knew what oil
of o Reguano was, but it was right by the
oil that we always get.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
It was right there. You just were not looking for it.
So now that you.

Speaker 6 (58:15):
Yes, that might beat all you start to see. Yeah,
but you gotta believe in it. You gotta believe. Soon
as you believe a believer, Yeah, soon as you I think,
soon as you believe in something, your vision changed.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
The universe starts to put it in front of you
because you say.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
You can do it, because if you can also, I'm
yeah absolutely, but also yeah. But he's hinting at the
core thing right here. It's the belief. You believed it first.
You believed it first, Renee, it wasn't the other way.
You believed it first.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
That's why somebody and then you ugly.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
If you believe that first, you're gonna react to it
because if you didn't believe it, that would sound like, hey,
you got hair on your nose, your your skin is
orange and I think sometimes you blue.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
You're gonna think that person is crazy. I don't know
what they're talking about.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
You're not even gonna react to it the same because
you don't believe that stuff about yourself.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
There you go there, it is, Thank you, you get that.

Speaker 5 (59:20):
You win.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
I'm at the bottom of the mountain of where John
Where John John at the top.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
John is he and he got on he got a cold.
It's cold up there, it's warm? Why man, I still
got that. I ain't got no jago. You know what
I'm saying, it's dope, But I'm going up there though
I'm making up that. Dah he got a coat on
his Eskimo. We're like, damn, it's cold up there, ain't it?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Like yeah, you know, I'm trying to get back down
where he at, where it's warm.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
It was dope, It's dope because it seemed like what
he's saying always falls into a filter.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
And then I'm like, well, Ship, I really understand that
that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
John is the truth?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Yeah, he's been that we do we treat all hypocrisy
the same way?

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
Uh yeah, I think we do. Then we think we do.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
How I treat I'm gonna set this question down how
I how I treat hypocrisy is a benefit of the doubt.
Always always try to see it from your side, even
though I know it's wrong. I'm starting to do the
opposite of that, and I'm starting to get better results
because when I agree with your hypocrisy, even though we won't,

(01:00:50):
you felt like we won't stayble ground and it wasn't
no issue. I felt like I was choosing peace. That
was the wrong ballance. I chold for forty instead of.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
I'm saying I could. I said, that's not, that's not
that's not what you see the last week. That's all
what you're standing up. And the results still may it
may be, it may be.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
It may come down here for a second because they
get a little offended. But if they come back here,
if they come back up here, I'll be able to tell.
So if you stay down here and you just get
mad at me, telling me trying to express the truth,
because I went through.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
That same emotion, I went through that same situation that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:23):
You just told me about, and I'm trying to give
you a piece of advice. Why would you try to
condemn your friends? Why would you why would you call
me your friend? If you think what I'm here to
do is to see your deathriot, that doesn't make sense.
So if you see me that, I'll be the villain
of your story, because I know I'm not a yellow right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:45):
I know enough to know that I have my foundation, and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
I see you still on a roller coaster. I'm trying
to pull you up. Get up here, with me. Help
me build. I'm trying to see through your window. You
got to building in your window. I got a big
ass tree.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
How do you get that building?

Speaker 6 (01:02:03):
But instead of exchanging energy, you severed that line, so
we can't come to a commonality. I'm not treating hypocrisy
the same, but I think most do.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
Mm hm hmmm mmmm okay, yeah, you said you're gonna
sit this one out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I am hypocrite now I'm maintaining peace some kind of mzing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Do we treat it all the same way? No, we don't,
and we probably shouldn't. We probably shouldn't. We are very
case by case situation, right. Evolution is very moment by moment,
even though it seems like it's in leaps and jumps,

(01:02:56):
it's moment by moment right now. Of course, that doesn't
mean that he can't quantum jump through these moments, you know,
because growth can be exponential.

Speaker 4 (01:03:05):
It just depends on your awareness and you know your
will power. Right, But.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Looking at it from a moment to moment perspective, when
you identify hypocrisy, you're measuring.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Effects of that hypocrisy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
So at any given time you can be like, Okay,
this person's being a hypocrite, But how affected am I
by that?

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Is?

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
It really gonna suck up my day? And again, using
a Snoop Dogg example, it's like, dang, you know he
said this and he's doing this, But Dang, am I
really gonna get upset about this? Or how we felt
about the j Cole situation with the Big Three? You know,

(01:03:52):
like dany, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
What are we really bad about here?

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Sometimes sometimes you got to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
So because Sae, because we argue, right, we argue, And
for us to be arguing about something like this, it's like, dang, man,
just really think about what we've said to each other
and why we're saying this to each other. This dude

(01:04:21):
don't know us. This has no barrier. You know, you
start to recognize the true effect of hypocrisy when you
see it. Not all hypocrisy feels the same. It doesn't
look the same, and therefore you're not going to treat
it the same because you know the distinguishing characteristics. So

(01:04:41):
you get the freedom, well to some degree, the freedom
to respond to react to hypocrisy. But we're here to
adapt to it because you know, again, the hypocrisy, the
element of hypocrisy that we don't like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
It's the deception.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
And this is, you know, a world of illusions, and
when there's no clarity who it's hard to make the
right decision.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
H m hm mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
That concludes tonight's show, which was good. The brothers are awesome.
You brothers are awesome. De I couldn't make it. He's
on the road. Ivy. She has some issues. I'm family first,
you know, go get the kiddos. How do your business?

(01:05:40):
Take care of your babies? The next podcast is to
be continued. We'll figure it out. I'm not sure what
I want to do. I have a lot of ideas
in my head right now.

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Okay, but I have to keep in mind the month
of May is coming up fast, and that it's all
mental health.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
That is our thing. We're going to be talking about
it all and it always kind of flows over into June.
So does anybody have anything they want to say before
we before we get off here? Sherman, I love the
bottom of the mountain. Yeah, try to switch places.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
I'm trying to see what he's saw.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I'm trying to go up. I'm going to come down here.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
I'm coming back down. I'm good you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
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