Is Social Media Turning Gender Dynamics into a Battleground?

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Tonight's topic is it's social media turning gender dynamics into
a battle ground.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
The already we already.

Speaker 7 (04:44):
Know the answer to that is yes. You see, you know,
men and women going back and forth. I have tuned
in on on on some occasions and watch them Tonight's conversation,
you have the real Peel community. You have women blaming men,
you have men blaming women, and everybody just need to

(05:06):
go to their corners and just stop, including myself. Just
go to the corner and just stop. You know, we're
often ready to blame other people. It's the easy way out,

(05:29):
it really is, instead of just looking in the mirror
and fixing our selves.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
But isn't that what we talk about, you know what
we hop you for copter By?

Speaker 7 (05:47):
The answer is yes, what's many other issues? Yeah, and
we all have them on both sides.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Men and women.

Speaker 7 (05:55):
You know it, after a certain age, you can't look
back and say my mom and my daddy, my uncle,
my brother, my sister. It comes to a point where
you have to look in the mirror and recognize who
you are, your truth. What are you doing to contribute

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to this situation? What are you playing in this situation?
So when it comes to the the back and forth
between men and women, they're they're just like ram heads boom,
they just keep bumping their heads and they just need
to just stop.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I know, we all have this this look what is
supposed to look like?

Speaker 7 (06:47):
What relationships are supposed to look like, what women is
supposed to be like, what men is supposed to be like?
The people can't show up until for other people, until
they show up for themselves.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
First Yeah, but I want to ask question what did originate?
I mean, because you know, it's like I feel like
you hear certain age. It's like I am a woman
of a certain age, So I feel like, you know,
some of those questions are now coming into the four
like some of the answers to those questions are coming
to the forefront. But my question is how did it originate?

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, first off, before we talk about the original the origins,
let's let this gender war that everybody's talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Let's let's let's hear everybody's take on that. What do
you what do you think the gender war is? What
are we talking about here?

Speaker 7 (07:40):
The gender war is just women and me and going
back and forth blaming each other for not being able
to show up for themselves. Let's see, it's just like
this preconceived notion that this man is supposed to do
this and this woman is supposed to be there. You
can't show up for somebody or show up as your
highest version of yourself until you heal all the cracks

(08:02):
within you. Tilling is not healing, is not. Oh, I'm
gonna get with this man and he gonna help me heal.
Being with this man is healing. No healing starts with self.
And I'm I'm gonna have to go back to something.
Me and Ivy we always we're the little chatterbugs. Self

(08:25):
love is hard.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
It's boundaries.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
You gotta put the fork down, don't eat that doughnut today,
take that thirty minute walk.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Man.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
You know, people.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Always talk about the self love, self love, self love,
but do they really actually know and self love to play.
But that's a hard different because self love, loving yourself
is gettle with you like it doesn't need It's not
necessarily the stuff to feel good. And I'm dead serious.
People be like, you know, I'm gonna love myself. I'm
gonna go get a man here, I'm gonna go get
a patty here. I'm gonna soak in a bubble back.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Nah.

Speaker 6 (09:06):
Self love is balancing your and checkbook. Self love is
telling yourself not to make that call when you know
you want to.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (09:14):
Self love is telling yourself, I'm not gonna go here,
I'm not gonna go to this point. I'm not gonna
go back into that space that destroyed me. You know
what I'm saying, that made me act like my worst
self were gonna I'm gonna stick a pin in that one.
Go ahead, John, because you was finishing. Go ahead, Mo,
I'm gonna be quiet. I'm gonna be CRD.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
Thing king.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
You want to take a shot at it. You know,
what is the gender war in your view?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
The gender war on my view is basically your ego.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, egos clashing classing the egos. All right,
all right, since he summarized it simply, Uh, I'm kind
of horseback ride off of a well yeah, all horseback
ride off of what god level said. Yeah, it is

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about this ongoing debate, this discourse between uh the genders. Now,
before I even continue describing and defining, are we including
uh lgbt Q, l g p.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
B t Q.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Are we including them in there? Are we including are
they part of this war? Or is this just sis heterosexual?

Speaker 8 (10:34):
Like?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Who are we including here? What are we talking about
with the gender war?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Like?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
What were you which genders?

Speaker 6 (10:40):
You want some real ship to be completely and totally honest,
it sounds like the LGBTQ community like when it comes
to like, you know, like how they how they find
each other with love? You know what I'm saying, this
is like Mark, this is uh, this seems like it
is a hold look lgbt Okay, okay, right, why but

(11:02):
I feel like.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
That is valid. So that's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's what I was saying when you and I were talking.
Are we just talking about men and women? Are we
talking about because we have a whole lot of humans here, okay,
and all of them, all of them are not you know,
all of them are not conventional and in the sense
of you know, what we know is gender.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
So again, like I don't want to be I'm not myopic.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
So uh, because you know, that's just too simple heterosexual relationship,
that's too simple, Like I'm familiar with that, but how
do how does everybody else relate? I'm curious about that.
What does healthy relationships look like between two men, between
two women?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Between I want to know because my.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Version of love is my version, right, and you know,
so it's like, hey, what does it look like between
old people and young people? We're talking about gender, right,
So that's what I figured. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (12:04):
There if that's the case. Yes, Jessica shout out to
jess How you doing. By the way, Jessica, I'm glad
that you're safe out there in California. I'm so happy
that she tuned in. Thank you very much for washing today.
But yeah, there are so many genders and we could have, like,
you know, like a wider gender conversation. I'm just speaking
from of who I know. You know what I'm saying, like,

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I'm just.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
All relevant to the conversation.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
It's all relevant to the conversation because it really in
a sense, in a sense relating isn't about the gender.
It's not so much about the gender, Like, yeah, it's
an influence, right, but we're trying to figure out why, right,
and so now that we're gonna be a bit more
inclusive here, right, I see the gender war as a polarizing,
very divisive discourse that's trying to unify collective understanding or

(12:57):
trying to understand, trying to unify under standing between individuals,
between groups on this concept of gender and how it
influences how we interact with each other.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Right, Some of.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
These encompass, you know, debates, some of them are disagreements.
Sometimes they're just really too hostile, right, But this is
also about advocacy, I think as well in terms of
like sexuality, masculinity, social issues. I think it's also inclusive
of those elements too, So it's not just who pays

(13:31):
the bills, but also it's about, well, what does it
mean to be mail, what does it mean to be cisgendered?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
What does it mean to be a homosexual?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
These are just objective questions, But what happens is we
assign these judgments these kind of discourses. These discussions were
only held at colleges once upon a time, like what
we're doing right now. A lot of us are not
educated enough to have these conversations if we're on it,
because a lot of these conversations about social issues, they

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only happen at universities. Think about that, but for social media,
how are we having these conversations about our society?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
They were in institutions, so a.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Lot of us are not qualified to even have a
conversation in the first place. But because everybody is entitled
to their opinion, everybody can participate.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
And to their feeling.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That means I'm saying, because that's what that's the only
way people understand it. That's the only way people. Oh
I have a feeling, I have a thought, and I'm
entitled to it. Okay, doesn't mean that it's correct, but
you're entitled. You're entitled to be wrong. Cool, that's how
you want to play.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
It, Because I just want to point out that we're
not necessarily bashing feelings. Feelings in and of themselves are
not bad. The thing is is that people don't understand
what to do with feelings. They think, Oh, I got
a feeling and I'm supposed to you know, blah blah

(15:01):
blah blah, blah blah blah. You don't what I'm saying.
The problem is that people don't understand that feelings. They
inform you that you're supposed to do something. You're supposed
to do something with those feelings. If you're angry, maybe
something has been violated and you need to you need
to fix that. But what is your reaction to that?
If you are sad, what is it that you're said about?
Find out where this is, find out where this lives

(15:23):
inside of you, and then go and fix that. So
feelings of themselves are not bad. I just wanted to
point that out all I mean.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
But that's that's an auxiliary aspect to this big picture. Okay,
the big picture here is we're trying to have a
discourse about genders. The arena was usually among the educated class,
so here we are laid folk having the conversation, and
it's just going in all kinds of directions because when

(15:49):
you have discourse, there are rules. There are rules. There are,
but hey, that's why we're here. We're here. Treat them,
treat them. No, No, ain't no shots. It's not shots.
These are observations. This is how it was set up.
There ain't no shots. There's no shots.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
No shots, there's no shots.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
What you're saying low key, they.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Said low key is you got a grown folks table,
you got a kiddy table. Some of us did at
the kiddy table. You're not. You're not just because you're entitled,
like like you're saying, Miss Tanner feelings, because you're entitled
to have your feelings and speak upon them. It doesn't
mean that you are valid or qualified to sit up

(16:37):
here and have an adult conversation about things. That's what
a separation comes in there.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
I could just see a whole bunch of egoic people
right now being like, did this motherfucker just call me uneducated?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
Did they?

Speaker 2 (16:53):
But listen, listen, this is why, this is why I'm
talking about the educational aspect. Okay, again, we're not We're
not with opinions when it comes to these type of subjects.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
These are social issues. We're looking for answers.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Why would you just let any old person with an
opinion try to give us answers? You want the best
answers possible. Where would you get that from? You would
get that from people who are studied on the subject.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
So that's what I'm saying. It's not a shot fired.
It's not a shot fired.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
She's reaching it.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Feminism, feminism versus anti feminism, those are one of the
roots to this discussion. Feminist movement comes in waves, but
there's discourse about the feminist movement in academia, and so
it trickled down into TV, social media. Everybody can talk

(17:47):
about it.

Speaker 9 (17:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
You don't even have to be educated on it, you
don't have to be well written on it. All you
have to do is listen to somebody else and say, oh,
I agree with them, and I'm gonna copy and paste
you can't do that, and it happens.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It happens.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
So this is why I'm what I'm trying to get
us to is we're having a serious discussion. Yeah, but
the arena is so big and anybody can say anything,
anybody can influence the discussion, and then some people hijacked
monopolize on it, and now it's a big mess.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
So I just want to identify here though, that that
anti feminism versus feminist. That's not an attack on feminism.
I think feminist theory is important. It did broaden up
a lot of perspectives and even how we viewed our
country and how we do social issues. Right, But then
there's things like, you know, our misinterpretations of feminism, or

(18:46):
the perceived emphasis on uh women's issues, or this uh,
this backlash against traditional traditional gender roles.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
Right, so you got to start going Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
That's what I'm saying, Like those type of discussions happened
in those arenas and now it's filtered out here. Right,
So when we're talking about the gender war, we are
talking about trans people too, because this is a question
of what is gender identity? That's one question, right, what
is gender identity? This is a brand new discipline for

(19:23):
us to explore because you had, again, high school people
just graduated high school, didn't go to college fifty sixty
years ago.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
But their understanding of gender is what man women.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
That's it understand running.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, and it's oversimplification, but those ideas are in competition
with the new ideas about what gender identity is.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
And so now it's a battle of intellect.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Like, hey, you know, I got my I came from
a time when you know, it was only just a
man and a woman, and like, like things don't change change.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Is it really a battle between between like the I
think it's really a battle between the rigidity of old
thinking and the fact that that modern ideas need modern
need modern solutions.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
To conventional thinking.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
I mean, not even so much as conventional me, because
I mean I think that I'm a conventionalist. When it
comes to a pop tart, it needs to be all
a strawberry, you know what I'm saying. But we're talking
about something that's complex as gender. Like that's something like
when you start getting into like the weeds of psychology,
you start getting into like the seven different theories of psychology,
you know, like when you start breaking that thing all
the way down and having the mental flexibility and agility

(20:48):
to actually perceive those you know what I'm saying. So
when we talk about like like gender based media content,
you got a lot of people with oh my goodness,
I can't even call it conventional thinking. You've got a
lot of people with like they've got rigid thinking.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Mark, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
I'm gonna say it, like, you've got a lot of
people with with like the old the old algorithm all is.
So they go on the old algorithm of thinking when
it comes to when it comes to ideas about relationship,
when it comes to ideas about uh, these gender roles, right,
and then but we this, we are in twenty twenty five.
Relationships these days, they take modern thinking, they take expansion,

(21:35):
they take literally like you have to question sometimes all
of this stuff, you know what I'm saying. So I
feel that that's the reason why, oh, look, gender based
gender bias social media contact has a negative effect on
relationships including yeah, ah, yes, because you can confirmation.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Bias, Yeah, confirmation bias rhythm. What you choose to interact
with is what you're going to receive more of. So
if if I'm on this man badging tip. And that's
what I'm interacting with is videos that's constantly speaking negative

(22:17):
on themand and that's that's what my algorithm is gonna
push to me. It's going to continue to feed me
whatever I'm interacting with and what and whatever I'm thinking.
That's that's That's basically it.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
And when you.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
Constantly take these messages in daily, of course, you're gonna
you're gonna start sigh when you start to hear the
horror stories, You're gonna start sigh. The the man if
that's what you're if that's what you're taking in. So yeah, yeah, right, what.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Man? When you when you say when you say.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
What if, I gotta go back, Hey, Robert, thank you.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
When you say what if?

Speaker 8 (23:17):
Does that?

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Here's here's the question.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
The question that I have is that once we get
into this algorithm, right, when we have all the gender
bass biased social media, the thing that I'm having a
problem is that none of them account none of them
bring in the portions about self accountability. You know what
I'm saying, Like, there's no excuse me. I won't say
none of them because that's like, yeah, I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
The professional ones which don't go viral, Yes, they do.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
But the ones that go viral so so, so are
we back the person?

Speaker 6 (23:52):
Are back on are We're back.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
On algorithm helping you pick based off your feelings versus
the thought process to come to solutions, to hold yourself accountable,
to be able to apply emotional intelligence. Just you know, king, king,

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what if?

Speaker 6 (24:22):
But what if those people can only go by their
feelings because they don't know themselves.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And you got at the table right right, But but
what if? Yeah, we keep doing what if?

Speaker 6 (24:35):
They probably should. But here's the thing. I look at
this as this this is a collective issue. This is
a communal issue, and let's go and keep this a buck.
Black people, we are literally just coming out of being
out of that survival mode. We're actually trying to thrive now, right,
and we have situations that are so monolithic to us

(24:57):
when it comes to relationships. It takes a different modern
solution than all of those people are talking about, the
ones who are who are putting out this gender bias
and social media content and and that's where it's like,
come on it, so, yeah, they should be at the
kittie table. But the thing is is that who is
it gonna who is it on Who is it on

(25:17):
to bring them to the adult table. It's on us
who's gonna do it with?

Speaker 1 (25:22):
No, no, no, no, because now you're taking on a
responsibility outside of self and you and and you shouldn't
should never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever
ever do that. The only thing you could do is
control what you could control, which yourself at the end
of the day. Right, That's it.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
And then you're encouraging so encouraging that, Yeah, I mean you.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Could do that. Yeah, but then go ahead, go ahead,
and I have that.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
I'm sorry. I don't mean to cut you off, and
I got that. But my thing is that that needs
to come with that with only controlling myself. That means
that for me, I'm gonna hold myself to a standard
to put out responsible social media content. You understand, I'm
saying like nobody, nobody is taking the time to be like,
is this stuff that I'm putting out? Is this.

Speaker 9 (26:09):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (26:09):
And not even not even just a reflection of what
you are, but is the stuff that you're putting out?
Is it responsible? I have a black face, baby, this
is gonna hit another black woman. I'm saying for what
it is that I'm saying. Is what it is that
I'm saying is that responsible? Is that responsible? Is somebody
else who looks like me going to be like, all right,
I watch with this because this is I have to

(26:32):
take I have to take accountability for what it is
that I'm putting out. Oh we have.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
I'm gonna go ahead read this. That's my opinion.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Come yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Problem is the relationship coaching industry the only industry where
the people who are are the ones without the thing
that talking about.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
You can be You can't be.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
A business expert with no business, but if you do
become one, you get a bad info.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I was saying.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
The information used to go through a credit like it
used to go through credited, credible sources. Right, everyone was
debating because they already had the insight. We don't have
the insight. We're still arguing at our level about what
gender is. That's a low level conversation. Most people don't
know that. Though most people don't know that we're still

(27:32):
trying to figure out what gender is at a lower golly,
we still got the rest of this up here.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
But hey, that's where we're at.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's no shots, shot shots. That's just the symptom. This
is just the symptom. So, yeah, that is one of
the problems. Just think about it's social media, right, So
it's I'm not saying it's wild wild west because they're
all regulars. There are community guidelines, right, But in terms

(28:03):
of what you guys were talking about the responsibility of
how you disseminate the information if it's accurate, reliable, right,
we just have that checking, right.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
And they're kind of they're doing away with that, right.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, what does the algorithm reward? Does it reward authenticity
or does it just reward.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Attention? So you don't have to be you don't have
to be an expert.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
You just have to posture as one, because that's what
the algorithm is. The algorithm is not rewarding authenticity like that.
It's just rewarding that which gets a reaction. So, hey,
if you come off as somewhat of an expert, you
don't have to call yourself an expert.

Speaker 8 (28:49):
You don't what.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
He's like.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
That's the climate, that's the atmosphere. And so the only
way that we can really temper that to check it
is if we check the influencers that's the only way
that that happens, right, because it's democratic.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's democratic in nature.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Not saying that again, there's like this top one percent
that gets all of the reactions of views.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
They're getting all the attention.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
It's like, you know, the top five percent whatever, right,
But it's the people that check them.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
The power comes from the followers.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
There's nothing inherently valuable about what they're doing, right, because
they're giving you information. But you have to agree. You
have to click, like, engage, share, you have to do
that with that information, right, So that's on the people.
So as soon as you say something that's out of line,
out of pocket, you get canceled. That means all of
your followers, all of your view oh you will monetizing

(29:50):
not anymore.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Not get that money gone done.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
So let's bring it back. Let's bring it back, right.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
So kay, do you think gender biased gender biased social
media content has negative effects on relationships?

Speaker 7 (30:08):
H m hmmm, uh oh ship, it's always the palls, baby,
it's the palls before you start speaking.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Let's let let's let us know that we need to
catch our breast right now.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
So I'm going on mute.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Part of me at first, you know, what I'm saying,
just thinking about it, was on the fence with this,
but when you when you really look at it, just
based off the question, the negativity is already there. We're
just looking for something to amplify.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
Okay, okay, bias, Okay, you push that already.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
So it's it's essentially us creating these echo chambers, right,
we're creating these echo chambers virtually online because the algorithm
feeds you what you're interested in, right, And so if
you're consuming this concept, right, it's just it's guessing, like, oh, okay,
if you like this, Okay, I think this video is

(31:33):
gonna be okay cool. I got like sixteen more from
sixteen different creaters, just.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Like this guy is the extreme. So I'm gonna send
you him too.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
You might like him too, And so it becomes it
can become a rabbit hole, as they say, right, And
it's like, dang, you don't even know you're in the
echo chamber.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's the crazy part. You don't even know you're in there.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
That's because you're you're getting what you want. You're getting
what you want, you're hearing what you want. It's just
like I don't see, uh, example, I don't get any
mag that stuff on my feet.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
You better not.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
Said nothing. I shouldn't said that, I shouldn't use He's like, yeah,
it's gonna feed you what you want to hear.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, And so it's up to the user to challenge
those ideas, to challenge or authenticate the source of this information.
But again you usually learn to do that in college.
That's something you could teach to to teenagers. Really gotta
verify sources, like, hey, I don't know if this person
is credible or not.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
I mean, you talk good. Salesmen talk good. Ain't they
what you're doing? You're trying to sell me something? Or
we have are we actually having a conversation. Well, I'm
right there with you, King, I'm right there with you,
all right.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Next one, you go to.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
Check any sources. First of all, when they don't know
how to check sources number one and number two, when
they don't understand how to how to challenge their own bias.
Because everybody's got biases, right, everybody, every living person and
thing on this earth has got something. But when people

(33:36):
don't understand that they have a bias to challenge, right,
you don't be like, oh, I don't need to challenge this.
I don't need to challenge this. I don't need to
know I'm good here, I'm good here. But and also
really don't want to hear opposing thoughts. Don't want to
hear something that balances on the other side. That's where

(34:00):
that's what it's not going to really be.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
Well, why is that?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Why don't we want to be Why don't we want
to be challenged? Why don't we want to challenge our beliefs?

Speaker 6 (34:07):
Because if you're challenged, and that means that if your
ego is going to tell you that you're wrong, and
people don't want to be wrong, people want to be
coming people.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Why don't want to be Why don't we want to
be wrong? Why don't we want to be wrong?

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Be right?

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Okay, go ahead, king, I hear on a coughing over there,
hold away, damn after you do the cough you got
you gotta look, you gotta get it together. It's because

(34:45):
people don't want to be wrong. I'm gonna sut up.
Go ahead, king, go ahead, you got it?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Mm hmm you saying you know I said I that
was the first thing I said. Ego, ego. Unfortunately, and
it's this First of all, I want to say the
name of this podcast is God. I'm sorry. Things that

(35:11):
people don't want to talk to talk about, things that
people don't want to talk about, things that people don't
want to talk about. Normally, we don't want to talk
about being wrong.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
That's it, period. It no matter what subject you bring up,
whether you're talking about yourself, somebody else, what, you just
you don't want to talk about being wrong. Your perspective
may be wrong, your ideology might be wrong, your opinion
may be wrong, your thought process may be wrong. Hell,
the way you get dressed in the morning may be wrong.
I'm just saying nobody want to talk about being wrong.

(35:45):
And I'm not saying wrong is bad.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Wrong.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's just you're not doing it the right way for
self to grow, to mature, to develop. That's that's that's all.
It's not a bad thing. It's not being where you're
being convicted or judge or to be gone away with
or something. It's just saying that, have you really took
the time out to make sure you're in a proper
space or whatever it is that you might be doing.

(36:08):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Because the people just know how to recover from being wrong.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Because you want someone comes along and challenges you. It
makes you feel a certain type of way.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
But that feeling is.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
That's but.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Let's just let's just play with this little analogy from
in it, right, like what you just said. Right, So again,
you walk right, you're walking, you're walking, and you bump
into a wall. Okay, your shoulder just hits the wall
because you were walking too close to it. With this
location right right right, you see another wall coming up.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Do you do the same thing you just did, Like.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
It's another one right there. This happened like fifteen seconds ago.
So that was the wrong thing to do. I don't
want to hit my shoulder, man, So this is the
right thing to do.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So that's why I mean about the recovery. It's the
oh shoot, all right, that ain't it. Let me pivot.
That's why I say recover because it's the up dan
ain't it? And we stopped right there, we freeze that
ain't it?

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Ain't it?

Speaker 8 (37:27):
Ain't it?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
That ain't it?

Speaker 3 (37:31):
That ain't it? That's not it?

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Okay, Okay, John trying just wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait, but that ain't it though, that's king, that's
not it though, Like, let me call me mom, guess
what that ain't it?

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Two days later?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
That ain't it?

Speaker 6 (37:52):
Three days, three months?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Okay, so we're hitting the same conclusion. That's I'm like, recover.
You gotta cover from that.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
That ain't it.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
You gotta recover from it.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Yeah, man, man, Marcus you are Can we just a
jow real quick?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
What you have to say?

Speaker 4 (38:16):
I love my videos?

Speaker 9 (38:19):
User error?

Speaker 8 (38:21):
User oh, user error?

Speaker 7 (38:34):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (38:35):
John on fire tonight?

Speaker 6 (38:37):
I know boy?

Speaker 4 (38:37):
He did you want a new workout?

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Chake it down?

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Why when you find out that that ain't it?

Speaker 6 (38:51):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Uh? What did you say? John? What's the what's the formula?
What they say?

Speaker 8 (38:58):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I got to get those I'm saying. So you get
in a good way.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
And working up the work and working up the.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Working working like I'm getting it there. Use the error,
use the error, user error.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Man, that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
You just gotta do a little bit of work. It's
a little bit of work.

Speaker 6 (39:44):
Very much. So do you answer this question? Do you
do you consider your own gender bias when engaging with
gender related social media content? Just like Marc, I said,
it's you, you don't I'm speaking. I'm speaking about myself.
I will not lie to you. I will tell you

(40:06):
two two and a half three years ago. Oh, it
was definitely off. You know what I'm saying because I
was in a bad relationship before that. It was all
narcissism everything.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
Yes, yes, And I'm slowly weaning myself off of that
because a lot of my TikTok posts narcissist narcissism.

Speaker 4 (40:30):
Slowly waning. I'm not lying. I'm slowly waning myself off
of that content.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
It's like, Okay, what you're gonna do now talk about that,
that that part and you know something today, Okay, you
didn't talked about it, you didn't released it.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Now you didn't got rid of you got it out
of your system. How do you feel and move forward?
How do you not put yourself in that position?

Speaker 6 (40:58):
And why is it that we have to change our algorithm?
Because because of the fact we have to change our algorithm. Yeah,
because if you don't change an algorithm, you're never going
to change your mind. I have two boys.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Wait wait wait, wait wait wait wait, let that breed.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
I was gonna say, your algorithm is only going to
reflect what the brown is a.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Hamster, and so definitely no seriously, you have to, you know,
something that's about like leveling up to if you really
think about it, like in your life, right, you have
to change your algorithm. So today I am proud to
say that most of my algorithm is about self help.

(41:51):
It's about therapy. It's about it's about like loving yourself
and being genuine in yourself. ADHD and autism stuff, and
see cat videos. I love cat videos and dog videos
like all day. Yeah, and that's it. And the thing that.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Cats sleepy cats cats.

Speaker 6 (42:11):
Each other up because she was I think it's But
the main reason why though, the main reason why is
because I'm like, I have two boys and I'm not
gonna lie. I will tell the truth.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
I am.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
I am healing. I'm in a healing process. I'm in
a burgeoning process. But because of the fact that I
have gone through that, there's a lot of there's a
lot of a lot of things. There's a lot of patterns.
There are a lot of patterns that are intrinsic to me. Because,
like you said earlier, what muscles are you working out?
I was doing the wrong push ups, you say, I'm saying,
so I worked out a different muscle and those uses

(42:44):
got strong. So now I've got to do push ups
the correct way and work out the correct muscles. You
understand I'm saying, so I can do a real push up.
So on top of that, I all have to do
that because of the fact that I have two boys,
right and I do not want any of my bullshit
that I think about that I possibly retain about men

(43:05):
in general, the fear, the anxiety. Right now, I like,
that's the last year because my kids are I love
my children. And if I start with self and look
at myself and take my ego more and more out
of it, I mean, it's a bunch, that's It takes work.

(43:25):
It takes work. If I do that, then it's not
going to filter over into my boys because I never
want my boys to have a mother. Won't and I
don't think that I have had. However, if there is
something that is within me, I mean to the ancestors,
I pray, you know what I'm saying, weed it out
of me right now. And I'm going to continue my
search to challenge my own gender biases because I definitely

(43:47):
don't want that to fault. I don't want it to
filter well. I also I don't want my youngest kid.
I don't want them to grow up being afraid of men.
You know what I'm saying, because I knew because of
my mom there was some stuff that was deep planet like,
I was afraid of men, and I did know it
until I started doing the work on myself.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
So so yeah, you know, ms Miss Tanner, you know
how you said miss intentive ivy right, I say about
seven years ago. I was always told to have an
intentive ear when it comes to listening, but not to

(44:26):
hear what's on the outside, but to hear what's on
the inside of your mind. Most of the battles are
won right there. So if you if you hear what
it is that you're about to say before you say it,
you could probably stop it right then and there. And
this is not a target to you. This is saying
this is something I do a lot myself where I

(44:49):
kept like nothing, you see what I'm saying. So it's
like the more you work that muscle, the more you
put that into practice, the more you would be a
lot selective with the things that you were saying to
other people. And and and like I always told my
sister when she come in and shot, why you always
say peace, because if I started with that, I reset

(45:12):
the whole candor or whatever was the possible possibly about
to arise. Yeah, and it'll make it. That default right
there throws you all the way off. You walk up,
you finish like what's up my nigga? And I say peace?
Be like, damn? Is he Muslim?

Speaker 6 (45:29):
Is he?

Speaker 3 (45:31):
You know?

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Kind of you know what that means?

Speaker 6 (45:34):
And it changed the energy in the role.

Speaker 7 (45:38):
Quly hit it like, no, I've seen this in action.
Come on now the bar up shop. You got some
aggressive me in up and now come on now that
up there, that test throng. But as soon as he
walked through the door.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
You know that peace Yeah, yeah, yeah, I come in,
I say peace. I say top of the day. I'd
be like peace, peace king, peace, giving hug and shut
everything off. Oh yeah, it changes everything. Matter of fact.
Sometimes it get quiet after that, And.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
I just I love that though I used to be
couch like.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Odd odd.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Let me tell you something, can I can I can
I keep?

Speaker 5 (46:23):
Can?

Speaker 6 (46:23):
I keep it? A buck? Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (46:25):
And you got to send me some of those I
want some.

Speaker 6 (46:28):
You want something else?

Speaker 4 (46:29):
You want to.

Speaker 6 (46:31):
Look a certain doing sake like John was doing, was
doing this You didn't even know he was doing that earlier.
I just want to know he was on fire tonight.
But go ahead, Yes, I wanted to say that question,
justice question you want to you want to answer.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
This question ahead ahead, I want to hear what you
have to say.

Speaker 6 (46:51):
Though, Oh, I was getting raised. I was I was
gonna share my ship because you'll know, I shared my
ship and I'm learning about emotional vulnerability, right, and what
it really means. Emotional vulnerability does not mean sharing your
shit so you can be a victim, so people can
be like, oh, I'm so ted for Emotional vulnerability is
being like, this is my bullshit and I'm sharing it

(47:12):
to hold myself accountable, but to also help you guys
understand a little bit about who I am.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Right.

Speaker 6 (47:18):
I say all of that to say, just like you
just said, like how you? How you you say peace?
Because you want to change the energy of the room, right,
Changing the algorithm or changing the energy within yourself is
so fucking hard. I recently just had I just had
a moment where I literally had to change the energy

(47:39):
and an interaction and a relationship of mine. Right, And
if it was not for John, he knows I was
about to crash the fund like I was about to
crash out.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I was.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
The because of the fact that John helped me to
basically be like, all right, here, here is something that
is that is antithical to the way that you're seeing things.
And I actually did something that I hadn't done before.
And when I did something that I hadn't done before,
the energy changed. My energy change. Now I took a

(48:14):
couple of days to get there, I ain't because I
was hot, like five, but it's still and I had
a right but it's still I changed, It changed the
energy within myself. So this is the reason why people
are like, I'm scared of therapy. I'm scared of doing
self help. I'm scared. I'm scared of pushing against the
biases that I have. Your energy changes, your algorithm changes

(48:36):
when you start to do the things that are antithical
from the way that you used to live in the past.
And that's the reason why we have to do the
shit that we do. That's the reason why you don't
consume this media. So this at least you know, find
a way how to push against that bias that you
already might have. Okay, I'm ana shut up because I
know John and King got a bunch of shit to say,
and thank you again because you are the real MVP.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
John.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah, tonight.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
People don't want to talk about Brought to you by
John Master Skywalker.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
The King was about to respond to the question.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Every time you make a noise before you speak, it's okay.

Speaker 7 (49:25):
Every time, like okay, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, We okay,
go ahead, Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
So I'm gonna I'm an I'm gonna stab at freaking frequency,
frequently consuming and not consuming socially. Okay, everything is just
not your phone, some of us, just in our social

(50:00):
your norms, we are consuming certain content that has no value,
no worth, no self help, no improvement, no accountability, no discipline.
See everything. When we say social media, we instantly say

(50:21):
what Facebook, the Internet? Period, But we ain't talking about
your little social group at your job. You got your
secular social groups within your family. Yeah, you got your
social groups within your friends within friends. We even got

(50:49):
the same type of social media group in your own
home front. You got gender wars in your own home
front before you even step outside. You using your emotions

(51:13):
and your feelings to attack said person because of what
you found out you was wrong today because the person
that loved you told you to your face, not behind
your back, but to your face, you're wrong. You could

(51:33):
have went about this a different way. Because I care
about you and I love I'm gonna hold you accountable.
You know you're supposed to be taking your blood pressure medicine.
I mean, be the simplest things. We can't just keep
blaming social media as the Internet. What about our social
norms that we go through daily?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Your circle, name who you surround about? M let me
be on some some bs.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
Then what exactly right?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I mean? To be honest, miss Tanner, you already did
that in practice and just said you have to start
monitoring yourself a little bit more because you have two
boys at home.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
Ok, Tanya, So nah, it's Tania.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Name all the way up.

Speaker 7 (52:38):
I got you, I got you. The accountability be the
reflection in the mirror we run from.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
How many runners we got out there right now in
the world.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
You know what, She's a runner.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Listen, I'm gonna third bringing this up when I share
my bullshit? Can I do this from now on? Can
I go ahead?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Can I.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Just want I just want one?

Speaker 6 (53:05):
I got you. I'm gonna send them all to you,
I guess you. Let me tell you. Let me tell
you something that is that is not going to be popular, right,
And I'm not doing this to beat myself. I had
to do this, literally to look into that mirror. I
realized at the end of the day that most of
the things in some of my past relationships that I

(53:28):
absolutely hate. How can this mother this, how can blah
blah blah. I realized that I just saw the symptom,
but the same disease we mirrored in each other. The
uh yeah, nobody really wants to go there, the the
avoidant behavior, they're the the the lack of true vulnerability

(53:51):
because if people find out who I truly am, you
know what I'm saying, Like, if I really speak up
for myself, like I said on on the other side,
it might have the symptom might have looked different, but
the disease at the end of it. But these relationships,
they're literally here. People don't understand that these relationships are
literally here to shape you, to define you. They're not
here to make you happy, because happiness is in and

(54:12):
of ourself, right. The relationships are here to They're here
to break you, to learn so you can learn about
your own ship. Instead of being like defensive, let me
get curious. What is this person saying about me? Okay,
I got I gotta get my life, like my life's up,
my life to off. It's oh shoot, uh oh, we

(54:37):
gotta go. I'm like, what's going on? Yeah, what's going on?
What's going on? Hey? What you got?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
I love you? I love the question. Man. It's the
rise of social media leading to the kind of relationship faunly.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Word play.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
You know what, and you know what before we answer that,
before we answered that. Okay, wait a minute, hold on,
this is god level.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Who am I speaking with?

Speaker 6 (55:25):
Hello?

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Put it? Put it close?

Speaker 4 (55:32):
I got it close to the like, this is God.
Let me who am I speaking with? I can't even
you can't hear me.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
I think I have to get off the live to
talk to you.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Yeah, go ahead and pause the live. Just pause it,
get off the okay.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah, you can go back and watch it. We got you.

Speaker 6 (55:57):
I'm sorry, what's your name?

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Where are you calling from?

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Calling from?

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Me?

Speaker 8 (56:08):
Me?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Me, me, me, me, me me me, mirror.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Look, I even just got really excited.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I love it.

Speaker 6 (56:14):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (56:17):
I'm sorry I missed your name with I said Tanya
it's Tonya.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Trust me, it's okay. Trust me when I tell you
you're not the perst and I promise you you won't
get the livest Okay, it's.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
Okay, all right, go ahead with your comment, miss Tonia.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
You got me all off track.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Okay, We'll take your time.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
You know, feelos, y'all do it.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
I went just listen for a while, but I went
up to touching something and I lost track of what
I was gonna say.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Is it about the let's go back the accountability be
the reflection?

Speaker 5 (56:50):
It was accountability, but something I'll be just said.

Speaker 6 (56:56):
About the reflection, about the mirror reflection, and how I
was talking about how I realized that the same stuff
that I hated in hell, the same stuff that I
hated in them, was the same stuff that I was like, Oh,
that's what's missing in me. That's the reason why I
don't like it that But you know what I'm saying,
It just showed up different. The symptoms showed up different.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
There tends to show up different. But I think sometimes too,
we tend to we're broken. We tend to find and
search for people that we feel we can heal because
the reason we're hiding so much from our brokenness that
we look for somebody who think we can fix because

(57:36):
then you can't accept me. You don't have to look
at your problem because then you're fixing there. But then
as you go along, you tend to realize too that
some of the things you're trying to fix in that
person is what the facts you wrong with you? And
then you do that in relationships, and then you picked

(57:57):
up this person and that person and you keep going
and it's like, you know what, you could have told
me that, you could have told me that, and you're
not this and you're not this, and you just said no,
there ain't nobody doing nothing to you says like you
you you chose that because you thought instead of fixing
your problem, you can fix ears.

Speaker 7 (58:16):
You can't fix people.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
They got to fix themselves.

Speaker 5 (58:25):
That's something that they got to be willing to. And
I'm all about willingness. I don't need you to be perfect,
but I need you to be willing to look in
a mirror because sometimes for a long time, we wear
a lot of masks, and when you take that off,
you gotta be willing to see the black that stands
in the mirror and wipe that off and when you

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can't do that, you're going to mean broken.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
Got to do it. And a lot of people they
just they kind of make peace with who they are
and they'll tell you what this is the way that
I am like, except yeah and death settled. And I
oftentimes say that, you know, some people are not meant
to grow. They're just there to show you what it looks.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
Like if you don't. And that's why they came. That's
what they came.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Yeah, And that's why they came into your life.

Speaker 7 (59:28):
Okay, here I am thirty some forty some years old,
still in the same position, running around in circles. If
you don't do anything to change what you got going
on in your life, they're gonna be me.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
In five years.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
When I come to real life. To those people are necessary.
They're necessary for a certain seamson because I think sometimes
when you're comfortable into my own things, but they're necessary
for that reflection project. Oh yeah, necessary to help you
realize the you that you could be, and how sometimes

(01:00:08):
can hold on to some of the things you have
no business holding on into people and you have no
business holding onto I gotta tell people all the time.
There are some friends that I have that I met
two years ago, that I'm closer to it than people
have been with for twenty years. Just because we started
twenty years ago don't mean you get to walk to
finish line with me that part.

Speaker 6 (01:00:28):
That part say all the people in the back say
it again for the people in the first of all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I got to talk about where you go right, let
me go, miss Tanner, let me interject. I want to
say this real fast. What she just said. I had
an able to break that down to me. And it's
and it's considered to be shocked therapy.

Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
M hmm, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
And she's just made one of our clips to how
don't have to make this as a clip?

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
Yeah, man, because the end that's exactly it. Because the
fact that you don't even understand oh my gosh, like
oh you know, it's funny because people don't even understand,
like they get into that. Let me speak for myself.
I'm gonna go ahead, I'm gonna speak for myself right
instead of saying people, So I didn't even realize how

(01:01:29):
much I actually needed to thank the relationships that I
have had. Right because of the fact that I was
swimming in this unconsciousness. I was unable to come to
those deeper levels of myself and realize what really needed healing,
what needed to what needed like the pressure that it
needed to be applied to that ship that was in it,
to that shadow side that I didn't want to recognize.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
And it's just like you said, people who people who
you met two years ago, it's like they come into
your life and because of the vulnerability that able to
come into your life with or the lessons that they're
able to apply to your life, you end up being
closer to them than you are to people who've been
rocking for you twenty thirty, forty years. You know what
I'm saying, And that's the truth. And even those friendships,

(01:02:13):
those friendships are meant to They're meant to shape your
life in some type of you know, I'm gonna stop
because Tonia is to go by the way. Every year, Tonia,
can I tell them about your event that you have
every year?

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Yeah, that's fine, But before you say that, let me
say that. It's because so I said that the thing,
because it's I'm trying to find the right word. Because time,
it's always this process, you know, It's just like it's
always this process where I hear people when we will

(01:02:48):
not have like some conversations and they be like, I'm
not here for new friends, just no new friends. I'm
rocking with the people I've just been.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
With, my A one, my day one and all that,
and we are not man to carry the same people
with us.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
You are really growing and you take the time to
evaluate yourself every single every birthday, I do that. I
sit down and I spend a day of reflection and
I look at me and the person that I am
and a woman that I'm involved in into and how
do I feel about her, what things about her that

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has grown from the year before, and what things about
her that I still need.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
To work on.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
And in those work processes, there are people that cannot
sit into that time after my journey. You can't go
with me because where I'm going and who I have
involved into, you know longer than that. Narratives you need
that the conversations are not the thing because you're still

(01:03:55):
talking about things you did ten twenty years ago when
I'm trying to fee what my what my future gonna
look like. So it's not that you get into friends.
Is you at the end of the day accepting what
God has placed in front of you to help you
alan the chapter, get you in at that moment, m

(01:04:16):
and maybe they go to the finish line with you.
Maybe they don't, but you accept that and you embrace
that because you need those people to help you into.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Your the next phase of your journey.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Once but I'm want to you know, you know I'm
gonna go to you alive. I just want to pop
in kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
But you know, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
Well done.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
May five be nothing more than a blessing to.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
You and yours man.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Thank you so much, mind.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
You too, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
By the goat the goal I wanted. I'm so glad
that Tonya came in because and one of the reasons
why I wanted to talk about what she's she just
started this right she has she has a red it's
like a red dress woman's event like every year. I'm
talking like, first of all, her cadem is off the chain.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
We need to we need to put that on the
on the group age.

Speaker 6 (01:05:24):
Right now, she's just doing it by like invite, but
she's got like thirty forty people. They all come in
and we just talk about the goals for the year
is sisterhood and the solidarity and it's just love and
it's talking about accountability. That's the way you don't make
yourself responsible for other people, but you still give back.
You see what I'm saying. That's the reason why I
was like, Tonia has been Oh my gosh, her story.

(01:05:47):
I'm gonna ask if you can come. I think it's
gonna be okay. You mean I said, we're we'll talk apitals.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
But yeah, okay, okay, we're coming up on our hour.
I'm sorry, we're actually past our hour.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
You're gonna answer this question as well, No.

Speaker 6 (01:06:01):
We're not.

Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
We're gonna open our next podcast with that question because
that's gonna that's gonna go into us talking about marriage.
So that question is gonna lead us into our next podcast,
which is which is about marriage, and then you know
the last one is self accountability.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Great.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
That's yeah, thank you, John. I want to thank everyone
for jumping in on tonight's podcast. This is things that
people don't want to talk about. We talked about it
is social media turning gender dynamics into a battlefield.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Oh my god. If you didn't get a chance to
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Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
Come join the conversation and we will see you all
back here next week.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
John, you got me