Is Victimhood a Culture?

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Is is victimhood a culture? Man?

Speaker 2 (04:17):
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Speaker 1 (09:27):
So the premise of this, we're not saying that, you know,
we're not trying to dismiss or integrate actual victims, right,
but we are referring to a type of mentality. And
we're discussing this because when you look around and we
talk about hurt people hurting people, right, But this is

(09:51):
also within the realm of the Struggle Olympics, as we
call it in our community, we call it the Struggle Olympics.
And there's always this sort of addedude that someone has
it harder than you, and whoever has it the hardest
is sort of like they have this certain status about them,
and that status affords them certain kind of benefits, kind

(10:13):
of a certain kind of treatment.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
And so I would like to explore that because it's toxic, right.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
You have individuals with legitimate negative experiences, traumatic experiences, and
they are actually victims of crimes, victims of experiences, victims
of circumstances, victims of situations that are beyond their control,
their influence, and you have some that propagate that and

(10:41):
they profit off of it at the same time, and
not in a good way either. So it's been a
trend for quite some time. And I know that social
media has a lot of influence on that. So that's
like the premise that really sets this whole thing up,
you know, victimhood as a culture and just identifying it,
saying that, Hey, you know what, I know what you're talking.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
About, John, I've seen it, and I'm not with it either.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
But we want to also try to make distinctions between
those are who those who are legitimate, and those who
are you know, just looking for some some sympathy likes,
some sympathy attention, you know, some sympathetic attention. All right,
so let's go ahead and just lay the groundwork, right,
What does it mean to have a victim?

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yup? All Yeah, people I grew up with are like
that too, John.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's almost like a competition to see who grew up
with Yeah, exactly, exactly. Okay, Okay, here we go, Yeah,
speak on the king victim mentality psychological mindset, narcissists. Ooh

(11:55):
but see that yeah, and that part right there after
the comma, even when evidence suggests otherwise, even when evidence
suggests otherwise.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Oh okay, here we go, Rajah. She answers the question
to answer the question.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
No, it's not a culture, but it can certainly be
accepted as normal for.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
A particular culture. Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
The victim mentality usually addresses people who weaponize and manipulate
their misfortunes for pity. That part, yes, that part, man,
Come on now, I mean we've seen it, right, We
see it on TV. And it's so this is where

(12:40):
social learning theory comes in, right, We're watching other people
exhibit this behavior and.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
We're saying, dang, so all you have to do? And
it looks so easy, right.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
That's what makes it so appealing, is that it's easy
to feign or pretend that you're you're weak or that
you're suffering beyond your own control. And people look at
that as you know, sort of I don't want to
say it's virtue signaling, right, but people look at that

(13:15):
as a call for help. And you know, we tend
to care, right, and you're misusing or using that care
by saying, hey, look at me, Oh woe is me?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Can you help me out?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Mm?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, Oh, it's a normal for a particular culture. I
disagree with this.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Oh shoot, all she said all you have to do
is cry and people would do for you. Is that
our karens.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Mm. That's what. That's one manifestation.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
That is when I when I hear victim, you know, victimhood,
I think of white women crying to get attention and
to get their way.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
That's that's one example. Yeah, that's one example.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
But I also when I think about the victim mentality,
I also think about this powerlessness to make a change
or to take some responsibility. And we were talking about
this the week before last, right about learned helplessness. And
so when you've learned to become this, you've identified with
being apathetic, You've identified with being helpless to the point

(14:27):
where you.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Adorn this ego of a victim.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
And again, we are making a distinction here, people, We
are making a distinction between those who are leveraging that
victim mentality for personal gain and those who genuinely have
been victimized and are seeking help and they're trying to
take accountability for their condition, and they're trying to empower
themselves to get up out of it. So that is

(14:51):
what we're making the distinction. It's how are we treating
this victim mentality? Are we trying to rise up out
of it? Or are we trying to stay in it
and be so comfortable as to benefit from it? Virjian says,
which doubles as a way to discourage people who truly
need help to reach out so as not to be
lumped in with the manipulators. Carlo says, my big Mama

(15:15):
would say, stop the pity party. Mark says, this happens
with everyone. I think it's a mistake to apply to
a certain culture or race, Like when they said you
think of a white woman, Black women do it just
as much as do Hispanic women. Right, And I know
so far we have we said women and I haven't.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm gonna give yes, because we see white women trolling
all other races all the time. I've seen too many
of them get popped for trying to, you know, push
themselves around there there privilege. Dang, I'm just gonna I'm

(16:03):
calling it like it is. I've seen a woman in
the gas station walk up to a girl going off
because the clerk waited on the other girl versus the
white woman, and the white woman was mad that she
wasn't allowed to go first, went off, told her to
go back to her country because she was a Mexican.
Told her to go back to her country, walked up

(16:25):
on a while she was with her boyfriend, poked her
all in the chest, and the girl hauled off and
smacked the crap out of her and all she could
do was fix her glasses and walk out. You show
me Mark.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Show, so I can give some more examples, right, and
these will be kind of I'm gonna try to make
these gender neutrals as much as possible. So we're talking
about someone who believes that they have no choices. I
don't have any other choice but to stick with these
friends because.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I can't find healthier friends. And so what was me.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I'm doomed. I just I just keep attracting the wrong people.
I keep attracting narcissists because that's all there is in
the world.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
So it's useless for me to try to improve myself.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
For you know, uh, these are the same individuals who
believe that the whole world is against them bad things
are always happening to me and life is just unfair.
You know, there's always this dark cloud that's just following
me around. You know, I'm the black sheet of the world,
not just in my family.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
These are people who.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
They don't take too well to constructive criticism. We talked
about that, right, the difference between criticizing and uh criticism
and uh, I think what was the other one? I'm
having a malfunctioning criticism and.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, there we go. Godly ah man, thank you all right.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
These are the people that they want your sympathy, but
they don't want to take any action.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
They're looking for validation for their experiences.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
But when you provide them with solutions, they catastrophize that solution.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh no, it can't work, Like every solution that you
give them, it's just not good enough. Right. What else?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
These are people that they blame other people for their circumstances.
They blame other people for their situations. Now, I know
in the black community we get assigned that a lot,
the whole notion of you know, racism, right, and it's
a legitimate claim.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
But on the other end, and I do believe this,
I do believe.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
In personal responsibility collective responsibility that yes, we can acknowledge
that we are being oppressed. We can acknowledge that we
are victims of these crimes and uh, these attacks.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
We can acknowledge that. But then there's the question of
after that, what do you do? Not what do you say,
not what do you feel? But what do you do?

Speaker 1 (19:15):
What actions do we take after we acknowledge that, all right,
this exists, this is a problem. This is affecting our community,
This is affecting our culture, this is affecting this special group.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
What do we do. I don't want you to just say, oh,
they're doing it.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
They need to be Yeah, they need to be held accountable.
But accountability goals on both sides. And that's the hard part.
Let's see, ken.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
You got to talk. You gotta have to talk to
some of the talk you O, man, just talk. Let's
hear it. Let's hear it. What you got? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
I'm paying attention right now? What am I? Mi?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Oh ship?

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Any examples you've seen
out there?

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Oh, social media the biggest one. Yeah, social media is
the biggest one. We run to a social media for
a third party, yes, ma'am. No, we see validation. We
seek validation, uh for bad behavior, and then try to

(20:29):
point the finger. Then you look for others to be
a fan favorite of what you're saying. That right, there
could be very.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's not. It's not. You're gonna always
be able to put something on social media and have
somebody out there agree to it. That don't That don't
mean it's right or wrong. The you're you're sharing your
thoughts and if you are, woe is me? Woe is me?
So one else is going to chime mean, yeah, girl,

(21:01):
I know it's hard, you know, because I'm going through
the same thing or even much worse. So yeah, it's
the old saying that misery loves company.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Oh yep, yep, yeah, And I'm speaking more so.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
I'm speaking more so of the basis of, you know,
for a fact, from more accomplished that you were wrong
in the get go, you know what I'm saying, And
you're seeking validation too in theory, prove what you did
as a response to what may or may not happen
to you to be right. And so I'm looking from

(21:40):
that standpoint. I mean, I understood, you know what God
Level was saying, but that's that's that's another one.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
That's a good Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, that could be real damage.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
I'm out here doing wrong, but I'm posting some boys
to make it look like I'm in the right. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Oh definitely, definitely. That's why I say third party because
any story you got, you gotta you got transmitter and
you got a receiver. But then you got the overall view,
you know what I'm saying. So with the overall view,
you're like, ah, what about the other information that you're

(22:17):
not adding to the equation?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I said, it's looking on to agreement. That's it.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Your name.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
I don't know how to pronounce your name.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
I was gonna say iteration hating, hating, haten hate.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, you're hating on another man's success. You know I
heard it from there. There was a line from Schoolboy Q.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
You hating on another man's success because the nick a
Blessing wentl' let you for ness.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
I was like, dang, that was a good line, man,
that's a good line.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah, you hating on another man's success because the nigga
bless It wouldn't let you for ness like you mad
because he's blessed and he's like, no, no, you can't
do whoa you hating on their success?

Speaker 2 (23:28):
They're gonna ab So just had a line saying that.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
A real or well, I don't want to say like
the actual line here, but basically he was saying that
someone who's real and authentic and true to themselves, when
they see that Rolex, they see that gold watch, they
get inspired and motivated. But with that part when you broke,
you hate it. And we ain't talking just like broke,
but we're talking about broke.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, so it's like, okay, yeah, that's a victim mentality.
It's like, oh, well, you got in it.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
You mad about that, You mad that somebody else is
blessed and it could be you, but you don't want
to put in the work.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
You don't want to be honest with yourself, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
And so yeah, there is a level of self deception
when it comes to the victim mentality. But let's keep
it rolling, let's keep it moving. Isn't fair to say
victimhood can be a mindset? Or is that too dismissive?

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Oh no, it is a mindset. It can't be a mindset. Yeah,
why wouldn't it be? You just said it?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, right, But we're calling it a mindset, mainly because
we're talking about thought patterns, right, this is habitual.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So people do have legitimate traumas, they do have legitimate.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Obstacles, but it's it's I think it's very important for
us to recognize when there's real suffering and.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
It's just to learn helpless Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Mean because self limiting beliefs.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
You know, there's a it's like there's a challenge, there's Yeah,
this happened to me, but this does not define me.
It's an experience. It's one thing that happened to me. Right,
So oh man, this happened to me. But brighter days
are coming, better days are coming, that this.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Is not the end. That I still have to write
the rest of the book.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
There's there's a level of optimism, whereas with the victim mindset,
as we talked about with learned helplessness, there's a large
cloud of pessimism, a large fog of pessimism. And so
you defined or limited yourself according to those experiences. So
it might have been just maybe three or four right,

(25:47):
and if ooh, there is a big difference between actual
trauma response and selfish response to innoculous things. Yes, and
so it really goes to sow. If you're aware of enough,
If you are aware enough, you'll realize that this is
just an experience. It's just a theme, And so you're separate.

(26:09):
You're not identifying, right, it's the identification with the experience.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, so you're.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Saying, yeah, this happened, like, oh, man, I got in
a car accident. But that car accident isn't going to
rule how I drive for the now. It's not to
say you can't be traumatized, and that trauma is, but
it's beyond your control, right, and you have to heal
from that. But these individuals aren't trying to heal. They

(26:35):
don't have an intention to heal. No, so the idea is,
let me continue to complain, complain, complain, complain, complain, and
people will do the work for me.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
No. Yeah, it's sort of like it's like setting I'm
a false safety new.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Mm hmmm mmmmm.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
No.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
It's okay to go through something, go through it. It
is okay to talk about it, but you got to
come up with a solution on how not to go
through whatever you went through in the beginning. And you
cannot allow something that you went through to keep you
in a place where you are stagnant. Okay, a lot

(27:23):
of people are not blessed to have good people around
them like I have with you all. I can call
you all with a problem and y'all gonna immediately say, okay,
I'm listening, Well, what is the solution? What we're getting
ready to do from here on? You know what I'm
saying moving forward? So yeah, people that's in a victimhood mentality,

(27:46):
they don't even have the support to even do something different.
They just have enablers to continue to enable them to
be who they are.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Reinforce yep, reinforcement enabled. Because what's the point of changing.
What's the point of changing if they're right there saying
it's okay, it's okay, go ahead, boom boo, It's.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
All right, you can do it. How do you know?

Speaker 1 (28:17):
The difference is the thing? Yeah, So the distinction. So
many girls are like, oh my god, I got raped
or some other terrible thing. Okay, Well, many are lying
for attention. But you can't just assume that because ones
who actually were like you can't say that to them.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Facts, thank you, you just answered your own question because
I was so all about to go in like, wait
a minute, that you just answered your own question. You
can't say that to someone who's been raped for almost, right.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
And that's so that's where it was highlighting.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Is that making the distinction, the discernment, you know, to
really look at it and say, okay, you're making this
claim of being a victim right. And of course we're
talking about justice too, you know, in the overall scope
of things, we're talking about justice. But you can't have
true justice without accountability. We know that you cannot have
true justice without accountability. And so there's a difference between

(29:13):
someone who is seeking accountability and someone who was just
seeking the favor. I want this personal game, but I
don't want I want it without the accountability. I don't
want you to see the deception. I don't want to
I don't want you to see the finesse. But the
person who is seeking accountability is basically saying, I just
need to understand what happened and why it happened, and

(29:35):
then in that sense, I can identify what I was
in control of, what I wasn't in control love, and
then I can execute a plan to prefit this from
happening again.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
That part, that part go back to I need to
understand why this happened.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yes, good, because I mean that's what an accountant does.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
An accountant has no there's no discrimination when it comes
to accounting.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
There's no discrimination that there's no judgment. You're just saying
this is what it is.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
But when you start adding the judgment, the condemnation, when
there's already this sort of moral lens that's attributed to it,
it can kind of blurry.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
It can blurry the accountability process.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Oh okay, okay, okay, mis Clark, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Trauma experiences are social influences.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, we can say it starts in childhood. We can
say it starts in childhood. I mean we are impressionable
around that age, right, and we are observing other people
and seeing what happens.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Again, if you're a.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Child and you're seeing that, if you're a child and
you're seeing that, one person is getting rewarded for being hurt,
whereas you healthy and strong, you're receiving more, perhaps more
work for being able bodied, for being capable, and you're thinkable, dang,
I work hard and I get more work.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
But this person calls in six six six six sick
in the.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Mind, they're sick and everything, they're just so unfortunate, and
yet they get charity. Dang, maybe I need to reevaluate
my motivations. May I need to reevaluate what I'm doing
here that can make people questions and.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Doubt yourself, Like, dang, is that the path I want
to that?

Speaker 1 (31:32):
That looks kind of tempting to do, I wonder, But
see people in that mindset, they don't think of it
that way. They have a totally different way of seeing things,
which is why they are that way.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
For JA say, if it's.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Not explained, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the reason why
godiance is so important. You gotta shape more than just ooh, misbehavior, ah,
principles values, ooh, you got to instill that.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
And when you have broken parents raising children, them children
not not going to come out as healthy as they
could be depending on the message around the house that
they are growing up that is being reinforced on a
daily basis to hear i'm broke, i'm broke, i'm broke,

(32:28):
i'm broke, i'm broke, i'm broke, I'm broke, day in
and day out. It's like, I guess we just broke, or.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Sure, even if you're hearing it from your mom, you know,
we're broke, or your dad, we're broke, We're broke, I'm broke,
We're broke, We're broke, and you grow up with that thinking, well,
this is how we're supposed to be. We're supposed to
be broke like everybody else. Tell me, oh, oh, hold up,

(33:02):
ow ho snap, all right, this is a hot take.
It happened a lot in the white community. In the
white community, we see all the posts out there that
feel that they are so entitled that they always have
to play the victim. They use racism as a form
of victimhood. They stream their victims every time on Huh.

(33:24):
They scream that they're victims every time they see a
black person doing.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Well for themselves. Wow, it is a mindset. They have
the belief because, let's see it, they white.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
They because they're white, and they should automatically have better
everything than others of color. Everything you are saying is
one hundred percent ballot. I hold myself accountable for ooh.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Cut off.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Raj said, it's hard to escape that mentality. I can
attest to that. And Mark says, the way people perceive
things that happen, it's all based on how they were
raised Some people are raised to rise to meet challenges.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Some people raised the crumb. Oh Mark.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Mark says he disagrees with Nancy. All right, speak on it, man,
say more, say more.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah, build moore, let's build more. Let's build more.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, we're just gonna add to we ain't gonna take away.
But yeah, this question right here, can a person slip
into it without realizing it?

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Can I finish what miss Nancy was saying?

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Okay, sure, sure, sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Put it on. She actually put it on my page.
Hold on, I hold myself accountable, but not having all
the comforts and the riches that someone that has worked
and earned I had the same options for chose different.
Before anyone comments on me being white, I don't identify

(35:09):
as belonging to the white race. I identify as being
a part of the human race. Thank you Nancy for
your for your comment.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, and just for the record, real quick, I want
to say it out loud and take no but a second.
This will always be a safe place for any and everybody,
any and everybody to vent, uh, to to you know,
get off of a steam, seek help understanding. Uh, there's
no thing where we come on here and we try
to bass each other. We're not trying to bait each other.

(35:47):
We're here to help each other, here grow, motivate, and
develop different mindsets than what we had when we first
came to this line. You know, what I'm saying things
that people don't want to talk about. It's actually for
everybody to be able to sit down out and hold
these intelligent conversations, because sometimes the dialogue is not being received.

(36:07):
You know, as much as we like to think that
we are so so smart, sometimes we're not comprehending another
one way of speech. I understand what I'm saying, So
I just want to make sure Miss Nancy understand it's
a safe place and to everyone else that's chiming and
see this later on, this will always be a safe

(36:27):
place for anybody to come and vent.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
But also to add to that, to add to that,
because the safe space still requires you to contribute to
the safety of it.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
You do not have the right nor the right. I
just have to add that part because a couple of
a couple of folks have tried it, and they did
it early on.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Early on.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, you say, I.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Thought you guys said this was a safe space. It
is a safe space, but that does not mean that
you can come in with this respect. So this is
what we're thinking about here. Yeah, that's exactly what we're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah, yeah, and you got to come in.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Like if you come in in with friends, you need
to come with friendly energy to definitely right. So that's
what we're saying here. It's a safe space for people
who are safe and otherwise have that intention of giving
that which they crave. All right, So responsibility, responsibility, this
is our this is the tribe, the culture that we're

(37:32):
trying to cultivate, and you know, try to have it
multiply within the culture.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
The macro culture of our country is hey.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Personal responsibility, personal accountability, but also collective responsibility because of
the personal responsibility. King is one hundred percent right. It's
about seeing the same facts from other viewpoints.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Him a long time ago perception. I'm sorry because he'd
be thinking, my brother, I didn't think I was listening
to him. I was listening.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I was just.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
I was listening the perception. Sometimes instead of looking at
something straight straight ahead, straight on, just kind of like
to We'll go to the side just.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
A little bit, just a little bit, just a little bit.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
You'd be like, damn, I didn't see that, of course not.
You was dead locked in on what you wanted to see.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, He's.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Get you out. It's love, always love.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
So yeah, all right, So let's jump into that next
question right there. How do we know when someone's genuinely
struggling versus adopting a victim mentality? And again we're talking
about someone who recognizes that because this is a mentality.
You know, I can just make this my clothing. I
can just wear this what is that called sheep and

(39:07):
wolves clothing? Yeah, I could put it on and I
can you know, move with the sheet.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
H Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Saw, brother, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Saw?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
All right, before we go into Saul's statement, I just
want to clarify something to Mark's point, because I've had
to deal with this, you know, within the past couple
of weeks. Right, Intersectionality is a real thing, people, It
is a real thing. There are subcultures within the culture,
there are different types of minorities, and those subcultural groups

(39:53):
have experiences. It's not that everything is about race, it's
not that everything is about sexuality.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But sometimes when you're looking at the.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Conversation, you have to step back and really analyze, like, Okay,
what is the main objective here?

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Why is this a race thing?

Speaker 4 (40:09):
Or is it a race thing?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
To our allies out there, please stray away the hit,
away from the idea of I don't see color. You
would not want someone coming up to you saying I
don't see heights, I don't see weight.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yes you do.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
It's okay to see it. It's okay to see it.
We're talking about respect.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
That's it. I respect color.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Don't say I don't see color, don't say I don't
see gender, see it, but just say I respect. It's
a respecting This is what we're trying to do here. Okay,
it's just respecting. Right, Wow, it's all okay. A level
of accepting a level of accepting less than what we
are usually what we are usually takes boom.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Takes place in most cases is where we fail ourselves
from thinking bigger of ourselves and what we deserve. The
beauty is that same way we have been desensitized to things,
we can resensitize ourselves our best understanding.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Hey, brother, you.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Say corrected, Mark, Yeah tried, Yeah, I stayed corrected Mark
Wolf in Sheep's clothing that's right there.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
You go, yep, thank you, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
And they says it's really difficult to distinguish or to
make the distinction unless a person's track record has proven otherwise.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Okay, evidence, Yeah, we're talking about evidence. Yeah, so what
do you what do you?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
What are you do in the presence of no evidence? Though?
You just got to go from I don't I don't
know about that. I don't I don't know about that, John, John.

Speaker 5 (41:54):
I'm just saying, I mean, that's true. But when you
first meet somebody, you don't know that out there out
the gate, you know what I'm saying. You don't get
their resume up front. You know, sometimes it has to
be something that actually happens to where their true nature
comes up front.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
So all right, okay, let's let's put a little pressure
point on that, right.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
So, because this is important to make the distinction, and
I accept that premise, what if you don't know them
and someone that you met, right, So, let's just take
for example, a therapist. A therapist you know, comes across
somebody that checks in and even though they're paying, again,
you don't know what they're paying for. A therapist is
gonna interview. You can interview somebody and you just start

(42:38):
with the story and you know, certain parts of the
story makes sense and other parts don't. All right, now,
that's just one level. This is just one level. Then
you interview them again. Does the story stay the same?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Did it change?

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Are you really paying attention to the narrative? Are you
paying attention to the treatment? Are you paying attention to
their attitude about the whole thing?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
You know? Oh, okay, okay, okay, hold on, I completely
understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
But some of the issues we talk about here tend
to develop into a race based thing, and they are
They are just human things. I agree there is a race,
but yeah, yeah, that's legit, man, That is legit. And
I know it can be very exhausting when you're like, yo,
can we just transcend this identity construct? But what I'm

(43:27):
just encouraging is that we do both. We recognize, Hey,
does this really have to be a race thing right now?
And if it needs to be, let it be for
that moment, but it can't be the whole conversation because
we are all collectively trying to heal together the community
that we're trying to do that we're trying to accomplish.
Is hey, LGBTQ, black, Hispanic, Latino, tall, short, healthy, unhealthy,

(43:52):
but trying to get better and get healthy. Right, So
we're trying to make it inclusive, but we want to
by you know, certain values and standards.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Right, I love you too. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Advocate tonight. I really feel like he's playing the advocate tonight.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, but yeah, so so yeah, let's le's let's finish
up that question. Any more contributions to how we can
make that distinction. I mean, I have one way that
I would like to to identify, and it's one of
my favorites.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Problem solving ability. That's a big one for me.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
When I oh my gosh, I love all my friends
out there, right, but I can tell when I'm when
I'm talking or I'm sorry when I'm listening. I can
I can tell when you just want to vent and complain,
and I can tell when you want to do something
about it. John maybe six years ago. Again, I know

(44:53):
my friends, so I can get but John six years ago, John,
six years ago, it was.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
It would be hard for me to make that distinction.
I would be listening.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I'm like, oh okay, and then I'll make a few
recommendations and then it'll be John, can you just listen, man.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I don't need you to solve my problem. Oh dang,
my bad man. Why you call me? Then?

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Like? Why? You know?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
So I would get upset about that, and most men do.
It's like, don't come to a man with a problem
that you don't want to solve. Right, we're really big
about that, but we also have to learn that sometimes
people don't know how to express that. Sometimes they don't
know that, Hey, I just need a Vince session. Sometimes
they don't know until they start talking to you and

(45:36):
then they realize, you know what, man, I just need
to get that out.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I just need to get that out and I can
go about my day. What about this, Oh man, I'll
figure it out later. I just needed to talk about it.
I just needed to give it a space. So that
takes that takes practice. Oh okay, Verja says, I ask
if they want solutions or an ear.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
You know, curiosity.

Speaker 3 (46:00):
Yeah, he does the same thing, you know, But I
I automatically have in my mind if I call John
about anything, I know that we're going to talk about it,
and then we're gonna come up with some solutions. That's
just what it is. If not, I'm not going to
even bother calling him to vent about anything, because once
I'm done, then it's like, Okay, where do we go

(46:21):
from here? I better I better be ready to take
some solutions or have some solutions already ready.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Content of character, Yeah, that's what we talk about. That's
where it's really at. Content of character.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Ah. It has to do with the choices and consistency
and compound effect. Not everyone has the same values or
comprehension levels or exposure.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
What's this thing? Ye brother saw? This is over here?
This is the.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
So problem solving ability is a big one.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
And whether they're you know, seeking a solution or if
they're just seeking, you know, someone to be like oh
and just soothe and coddle them, you know. And I
do believe that this starts as earliest childhood. I do
believe that it can not always, but it can start there.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
This guy here, yeah, he is not.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
He is not gonna wallow with you. He's not.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
He's not.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
No.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
We we did a short power wow to day and
I was just I didn't have any problems. I was
just giving him a short update on what was going
on with me. Yeah, oh my god, Okay, what roads and.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Well I'm gonna say so, I'm about to.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
In some cases, the lack of lack of esteem, lack
of confidence, lack of courage, and the lack of really
understanding of who you are, you know, as a person,
as a friend, as a child, as a lover. I mean,
just just the lack of that understanding, Like you have

(48:27):
no direction. If one, you do have a broken mindset. Secondly,
if you have no knowledge of just your self period,
you know, knowing what makes you happy, knowing what triggers you,
knowing that, Hey, the way I've been going about this
has ultimately put me in a position of defeat.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
No matter what I do now, I find myself affecting
those around me. You know.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
So you sometimes I'm not saying you can, but when
you get amongst people that really care about you and
they want to show you different, it might be hard
to swallow what they're telling you because it seems like
it's an attack and it's not. It's actually have you
have better judgment of your own character, So you know,

(49:14):
I have to go back to that. You know, you know,
the confidence and the esteem. That's something that you don't
get it home, Like God level stated you broke broke, broke,
broke broke. I mean, if you said enough long enough,
that's the only way you think.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Period.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
You don't even know it affects you later on in life.
But you look at everything as I'm supposed to stay defeated.
I'm not supposed to win, not supposed to be successful.
I'm supposed to continue to hate on others. I'm supposed
to just dislike myself from it to toe. I'm nitpicking
on me, and then I'm just saying, help, help, help help,
By the way, Oh, it's never gonna work anyway. I

(49:52):
know you're trying to put for your effort to see
and it's still different in me, but I'm still saying, Nah,
it ain't gonna work.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
It ain't gonna work. It's not supposed to happen for me.
How I know because my grandma, my mom, my dad,
I got cousins and brothers.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Man, it just keep going. M I is poured that today.
That's heavy up. Yeah, pity can be a form of
entight on me. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Oh hold up, let that just you just came out
with the haymaker, hold up, let that free.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
That's what.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yah like.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
You start to feel that because of what has happened,
you deserve to feel bad for yourself, and you may
see validation about yourself from others and label it as
sympathy or empathy. Self pity can sometimes undermine empowerment because
you can't break out of the self live man can't
break out of the self limiting beliefs and behaviors at

(51:11):
a company. Self limiting as in, you impose those beliefs
on yourself. You did that to you, and then you say, oh,
they did it to me.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
They did it.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
But you have the belief and you can do what
you will with it, every belief you have. If you
inventory your beliefs right now, you are responsible. Whether you
got them from someone else or you just made them
up on your own, you're responsible for them.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
So you have to figure out what to do with them.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Saw get off my mind, bro.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Get my hand right. Self love is self mastered.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
That word self master the man's discernment to build your
value and practice the right moves in Princeville is a
form of adopting someone else's definition of.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
Yeah, yeah, hey, what's that song, saying I practiced looking
in the mirror.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah yeah, looking in the mirror.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Yeah yeah, shout out to Michael Jackson, the man in
the mirror.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Does society rewarded?

Speaker 4 (52:33):
Oh definitely unfortunately, but yes.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Yes, I just called her name post make me think
of Ivy holding of her boards signed we missed her.
She is living her best life and I love that
for her, I really do. I love that for her.
She better enjoy herself for me too. Mm hmmmmmm, Ivy,

(52:59):
you are missed. We hope that you are having a wonderful, glorious,
beautiful time.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
M hmm.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Okay, well so hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
So in what ways though, So in what ways the
society reward victimhood?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Because this was important? This was important? Right? I want
you to think, for example, uh yeah, I'm gonna just
go and call them out.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I want you to think about those individuals who are
always chasing those legal settlements and the compensations.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
You may have gotten hurt, and it may have been legitimate,
but you turn it up to the max.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
You're thinking, how much sympathy can I get for this?

Speaker 1 (53:50):
How much compensation financial as well can I get for this?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Right? Oh? Man, me choosing to tap into my free
will more freely.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
It's abart and frequently was a game changer. I had
to tell myself daily that I can make healed decisions.
That is a phrase right there. I like that healed
decisions repeatedly. My behavior is up to me. What I
choose to be determines what I have. What I choose
to be determines what I have what I choose to be,

(54:22):
and then the tools and the substance the content is
before me because of.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Who I am.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Yeah, that's universal law. Law of attraction.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
M I love that.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Oh my god. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
We're also talking about, like we're talking about like moral
high grounds, we're talking about power.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
When it comes to like social movements.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Right, A victim narrative can kind of turn into this
monster where people are organizing behind this cause and it
might be a legitimate cause for certain people, but some
hijack that cause, the legitimacy of that cause, and they use.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
It, you know, for profit. So I be oh, have
I be hey? I like that.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I like to go in the law of attraction at
some point, kine.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Okay, go back to this, go back to that, go
back to that. That right there. Yes, because superficially, most
people don't want to look into the valid valid I
can't John help me.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Validity validity validity victims mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
They just want to gloss over it with the easy
solution to feel good for help. Yes, yes, yes, and yes,
prime example of most of us have done this before.
Let me just do this so I can get you
out the way.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Mm hmmmm mmm.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
You're nurturing the problem. You're nurturing a problem. You're not
fixing anything. You're not even giving a solution. You're adding
to it. You're helping them continue to think I'm entitled.
I'm using self pity to get what I want.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Mhmm.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Can a victim mindset limit someone's success in their career
or personal growth?

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah mm.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
They believe in themselves, So what what personal growth? What career?
You have a career? You have to believe in yourself
to have some personal growth. You gotta look in the
mirror and recognize, Okay, I've been doing this for this long,
how about maybe it's time for me to change into

(57:06):
doing something different. They know they've been doing whatever whatever
works for them, so they made a career out of
being a victim. That's that's their career. Yeah, what's you say.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I believe as a collective, black people haven't progressed because
we keep buying in and selling a certain narrative about
the man holding us back. Okay, So I'll say we're
divided on that. Some of us believe in this, some
of us are living this, Yes, but I think there
has been progress in terms of us maintaining the idea

(57:48):
that we can overcome that our self determination.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I believe there are those of us that believe in that,
and they and we live that. And then there are
others that, you know, because we inherited that narrative.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
We didn't make that up. We inherited that, and it's
you know, it's it's somewhere in the culture. You see
it in the cinema.

Speaker 4 (58:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
So I think we're we're kind of divided on that one,
right there. Some some some are keeping it alive.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
I just talked about this today as a response to
someone on our things that people don't want to talk about.
We're constantly looking outside of the community, when we're gonna
start looking within, see what what where is it? At
which one many women still face danger at home in

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this day and age considering what a woman is guilty of.
This delicate but but necessary. Sometimes a victim is too
scared to realize that they are playing.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Mm hmmm, now.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Playing the victim as if that is the wrong the
situation relationship. It is vital to cousin certain behaviors and
with strict and even force, domestic violence is a atrocity.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
So I did grow up and hear a woman say,
and she wasn't a relative. But if I heard that.
This quote used to float around in the community that
if a man don't hit you, he don't love you.

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I've heard that, m and I thought to myself, but
when a person hits you, that, ain't they gonna like you?
How do you equate that with love? Because these same
women seeing their mothers go through the same thing. Mm

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hmm yeah, saw.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Yeah, So how can a person replace blame with action? Well,
as with everything we can say, it starts with self awareness.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Okay, I want that. I want saw the answer that saw.
That's I want I want to saw the answer that saw.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
What's the number?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Because we we we we're pushing the time over here.
We were pushing the time over here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, we're pretty much around the solution aspect of this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
You know, we discussed we're definitely going to have to
come back and do a part too. I'm not trying to.
We've we've had so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
They may think they're being strong, yet the victim is
never dang mm hmmm mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
What what Sylvester Saloon say? It's not how hard you
can hit, it's how hard you can get hit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Bounce that resilience.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not man because look.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Oh Shore they rapping right now. They didn't took over
the show. Renee and starting took over the show.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
But that's love. It's healthy conversation. We need more in
the community, need this more.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Mmm mark.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
So we got the victim mentality mentality and we have
the empowerment mentality. Maybe it's the resilient mentality, the victor mentality.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
You know, I don't lose, I don't lose. I win.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I always win. Even when I'm losing, I'm still gonna win.
And what I got, I'm still gonna win. You might
have got you got that hit, you knocked me down,
but the fight ain't over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
I'm just down right now. Yeah, let me shake this
off real quick. And all right, you want to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
Try that is that is it almost like saying the
difference between m m h m hm failure and a
failed lesson mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Okay, okay, okay, m hm failure in the fail lesson
failure and a fail lesson mm hmm. It's a failure
because failure implies that it's uh, it's it's like conclusive, right.
Failure kind of has that conclusive and like period. It's

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failure period, whereas it's fail lesson dot dot dot dot.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Dot dot exact.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
So it's like, like, no, the difference between a final
test and the quids.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
You see what I'm saying. Mm hmm. Everything has a spectrum,
a victim of our damn word though.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Oh okay, let's go back. Everything has a spectrum.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
A victim.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Mentality may develop from many factors, but acceptance and desensitization
often play factors.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Okay, yeah, yeah, all right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
And that word right there, the decentization to desensitization, I
think that's very I think that's very crucial right there,
because you got to really think about the culture that
we're in where we say things like are you just
being so sensitive? Why is everybody so sensitive? About everything.
When did we get so sensitive? So now we're talking

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about growing thick skin, right, but we're still acknowledging that. Ay,
this still hurts, though, but I'm gonna I'm going tough
en up. I'm gonna take some of these blows, but
I'm also gonna defend myself. So, all right, desensitization because
you don't want to overreact to the same stimuli.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Lauren Hill has a line that says, to support a
situation we all know is obligation, the victim is the
person who is passively participating in life. Passively participants. Shoot, yeah,
passively participating. Yeah, if they haven't activated, they will Yeah,

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they haven't aligned their will with the highest purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
So you yeah, they're just there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
You're just scrambling, grabbing the scraps. You want more, but
it's too hard. Mm hmmm, it's too challenging. It's too much.
Why you got to be so much?

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Why?

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Why does life got to be so hard?

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
You know, what does the other side of that giant?
Sometimes sometimes that I'm just saying, it depends on the victim.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Sometimes right there, renee right there. I'm going to stop
right there, because over our time Renee, I need you
to come back, and I want to let me take
a picture of this question because this is how I
want to pick up next week's podcast. I gotta take
a picture of that because I want to pick right

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back up where Renee just left off. As mad y'all
are going. We're gonna do part two next week, along
with that question and also solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
I want to thank everyone for jumping in on tonight's Live.
I appreciate all of the comments. Don't forget to like
subscribe and share the podcast. We will see you all
back here next week too, all right, yeah, absolutely? What

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was the question, Renee? How do they activate that if
they don't see an end in sight? This is when
a woman is a We're coming back to answer that
question next week. Thank you so much. Y'all got any
final words?

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
I just want to say, stay positive and please come back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Invite somebody m yeah that part, that part, that part,
all right?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Then yeah, let them be with you and then then
y'all will have something to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Y'all will really have something to talk about it. Y'all
can team up. Yeah, come back, Mark, let's keep building
bro come back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Absolutely, Oh my god, We will see y'all back here
next week.