Last Podcast of the Year! 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right, God love it.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
You can telling my setting love it up.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
God love what you can telling my setting level up,
God level, you can tell them my seting level up,
level up, Let it up.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Don't everything that means every name connected to everything. And
that's why and that's why.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Everything all lies, all lies on everything.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
That means everything is connected to everything.

Speaker 5 (00:39):
Okay, I want to apologize for being late. We were
not being Denis said, I know right. I want to
thank everyone for jumping in on tonight's Live. This is
things that people don't want to talk about. This is

(00:59):
our podcast of the of the year, just of the year.
We will be back January the seventh. You know, So
we're just doing a Q and a do we happy?
We don't have a lot of you just yeah, but
I've been a minute. I'm sorry. I guess I'd better
go through the full thing on God Level ivy, Oh God.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
I'm gonna go over here. I'm gonna just start off.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
I am Gode Level. I'm originally from Saint Louis, Missouri.
I'm a mother, I'm a nurse, I'm a not, I'm
a t T, I'm a gg, I'm a friend, I'm
a cousin. I am everything good.

Speaker 7 (01:43):
I got this podcast, and I also got two businesses
floating around in my head right now, look for that
in twenty twenty five. Okay, all right, John, you want
to Oh sorry, Ivy, you want to go ahead and
represent yourself?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
I'm splitching around. What's going bod, y'all.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
I'm not a minist this year, just yet. I will
be a minister Society.

Speaker 6 (02:04):
In twenty twenty five. This special Magi, Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (02:09):
To peoples?

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Is your girl?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
And attenive?

Speaker 8 (02:11):
Ivy covered as you from the PSW, the Wonderful Pacific
Northwest of my sister friend, former broadcast journalist in the military.
I'm always talking about mental health, these damn ADHD hampsters,
and today I look like a frog, you know what
I'm saying, because we chill it out, that's what we
do it.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
I'm just saying, you're like, yeah, all this mental.

Speaker 8 (02:32):
Health journey, sharing my TODA Honey Ice team, you know,
so I can keep myself accountable and share for for healing.

Speaker 6 (02:39):
And as always I'm gonna keep it a buck, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
You better annoy it. John, you want to go ahead
and represent yourself?

Speaker 3 (02:45):
John Scott Walker, the sly talker. Here, I'm a lyricist,
spoken word artist, martial artist, personal trainer, lover of life,
doing psychology, and I'm a father who is currently taking
personal training personally trained personal training clients right now, kicking
my ass personal training clients right now.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Uh. This could be for New Year's resolutions.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
This could be for that summerybody, because hey, it can
take you six months, y'all trying to do it in
a month.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Nope, no, man, no, sir, no, that's not how we
do this. There's no cheat codes.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
If you want it to stay off, if you want
it to last longer, you're gonna have to put in
some work. So, if you're committed to your fitness, your health,
if you want some you know, self confidence to add
to your regiment, I'm your guy.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, get a trainer, Hire a trainer at master dot.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
John Skoyle Walker at master dot John Skoyle Walker on Instagram,
send me a DM. All we gotta do is have
a conversation. You ain't gotta buy anything yet. Let's just
feel each other out. See if I can serve you.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Salute salute.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
Oh wait a minute, I'll be a little late. Can
I get the link to get in as Sherman. Sure, yes,
the last podcast of the year.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
That was perfect. Yeah, I don't know, Jesus, what do
we do? I'm sorry, Keing Newborn, go ahead and represent yourself.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
She was like, what's going on here?

Speaker 5 (04:25):
I can't hear you. Your mike is muted. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, unmuted. Hello,
I'm back now A yeah, there you go.

Speaker 9 (04:38):
Peace, peace, peace, this King Newborn. You can follow me
on all social media platforms and Newborn everything and uh
as always I am that. I am of service to family,
friends in the community. Peace, love and life.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Peace, love and life.

Speaker 7 (04:54):
All right, this is the last podcast of the year
before we go on vacation. You know, it's the end
of the year. Christmas is here, the New Year's just here.
You know a lot of people like to spend time
with their families. Everyone on this podcast know that I
am family first. This podcast will always come second versus

(05:15):
what they have going on, versus what any one of
us may have going on in their life.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
I don't care if it's birthdays, it's a holiday, or
just you just need a mental day. I'm okay with that.
Do your thing. I want you to be on here,
fresh and ready to go.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
So we got the end the last what three weeks off,
and then next month we'll come back in with something
with something.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
A little spicy. Let's go. I just told John about it.
He's okay with it.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yay.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
We need to find I mean, we ain't no good
together a bit not okay.

Speaker 7 (06:05):
I've been a menaced all day on TikTok. If y'all don't, y'all,
y'all gotta go check me out on TikTok.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
It's God level. I have been absolutely a menace on
TikTok talking about.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Jay Z.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
Yes, and you know in my world, in God levels world,
men are broken down into two categories protector predators, and
they are like ail in water.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
They do not mix. You know what? That would be
so nice, Maggie. Okay, you know I'm adhd. Don't be
doing that.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Somebody else is claiming the hamsters step into the room,
step into the room.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
That would be so nice. We're gonna work on that
for twenty twenty five. Well, I'm sorry. Well, does anybody
else have anything to say?

Speaker 7 (07:03):
Because all I can do I can talk about me
all day and what and what I've been doing. Honey,
I got people fighting on my TikTok.

Speaker 8 (07:14):
So there was a couple of people who I knew
called in with some questions. Right, Oh, okay, I ask
some questions. I'm gonna wait for I'm away from the
pop up, you know, and bring their questions to the forefront.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
But I tell you what's been on my mind for
these last couple of couples.

Speaker 8 (07:29):
Right, so, you know, God level told me, like, you know,
like I've kind of I've kind of been into astrology
and this whole entire thing.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
You know what I'm saying. I don't know if anybody
else is you know, digging that.

Speaker 8 (07:41):
But uh but seriously, like the fact that Pluto is
now an Aquarius, and oh my god, like the that's
popping off people. It's like for real, like they like
I've heard astrologists say that that when Pluto goes into Aquarius,
because Aquarius is known as the maverick, the rep you know,
like like the like the the agent of social change.

(08:03):
Like when Pluto goes into that, that's when it kind
of starts upending things.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Like the last time that Pluto was an Aquarius. Check
this out, y'all.

Speaker 8 (08:10):
Pluto was an Aquarius during the French Revolution, the the
American revolution, like these big regime changes and look at
what's happening. We only like a couple of weeks into
this month and Aside has been ousted. Uh North South
Korea has had has had martial law for like the

(08:33):
last you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
I mean, it didn't work by the way the people
were going forward. But listen, uh.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Man, listen, I'm just saying the uh seed that that
thing happened.

Speaker 8 (08:47):
You know, There's been a lot of movement, and I
try not to get into conspiracy theories, so I'm gonna
stay away from him.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
But I'm been saying there's a lot of change that's been.

Speaker 8 (08:57):
Happening really really quickly. Yeah, really really quickly. So I'm like,
that's what I'm noticing, Like there is a lot of this.
I'm talking like rapid ship.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, hold on to yours and lashes, ladies for twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
Come on, come on, hold on to your wigs and
lashes for twenty twenty five or uh huh look look.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Look look Uh did you say or not.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Or not?

Speaker 8 (09:38):
Just saying, oh look, look do I want to say
that we didn't want to say you want to say
something back to that.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
I'm gonna go one and came.

Speaker 9 (09:48):
On, Johnny, I mean he said, I you know, yeah,
I mean you good in one way. Has it been
protecting you all this time or not?

Speaker 10 (10:06):
Some ladies, Yeah, yes, hold on to your wigs and
your lashes or tu that to some bundles in your.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
To go back. You know, we gotta take down real good,
you know.

Speaker 9 (10:32):
Love we're doing.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
So anybody who's watching out there, what do you want
to talk about?

Speaker 11 (10:36):
Like?

Speaker 6 (10:37):
What do you do you guys have any questions? Do
you have any questions?

Speaker 8 (10:40):
Do you have any questions of I don't know the
other viewers like that would be a great thing because
you know, y'all hear us talk every week, so.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
We always ask questions. Yeah, we're always asking y'all questions.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
I want to ask us.

Speaker 9 (10:52):
I want to ask one quick question off the gate
that I think no one else taking time out.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
To uh.

Speaker 9 (11:01):
Put out there, just to the panel. What is the
mission statement of God Level. I'm just curious.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
What is the mission statement?

Speaker 7 (11:18):
The mission statement of God Level are things that people
don't want to talk about, and mister mac.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
I will be addressing you shortly, so I'm sorry. Which
bo you want both.

Speaker 7 (11:34):
I mean level, God level is about operating in your
highest potential and beyond that is God level.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
That is that's operating, that's that's.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
You going beyond the call of your own of what
people say your potential is or your own perceived potential,
and going beyond that. Things that people don't want to
talk about is giving back which was lost. Now that Yeah,
that came from inattentively ivy ivy.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
And I said, right, it's all right. They came from
ID from one of her hamsters. They was cooking that day. Baby,
They was in that kit home.

Speaker 7 (12:17):
They was cooking that day. And mister man, he's guilty
by association.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
That's just.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
He is guilty by association. Jay Z is a very
smart man. He's he's a very smart man.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
That's why.

Speaker 7 (12:37):
And here's the thing, you know, and for me, I
break men down into two categories, protectors and predators. Predators
and protectors.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Are like oil and water. You're saying, nope, nope, nope,
what's the number. What's the number right there? That's right there,
Call in, mister mac. We can talk about this right now.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
Don't let people walk on you do, come on, son, Yeah,
I hit the number, hit the number to.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Your fly association.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
Look at P Diddy, the rumors surrounding P Diddy and
how he and how he was and how he was moving.
Come on, now, you gotta be okay with you. See
your man's over there. That's how your man's get down.
You're not gonna say anything about that. That which brings
me to another problem in.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
The black community. I hate to say it.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Men have a problem with checking other men when it
comes to their behavior.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
People there you go people, Yeah, But I'm.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Just I'm just pointing out, you know, a simple fact
being Mister Carlos had this conversation yesterday where he at people, Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Let.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
People, let me.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
Let me jump in and say, right, I believe. I
believe that people are different. Who I am different from
who I was twenty years ago. I've gone through at
least I've gone through at least two iterations, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
And I know for sure that like when people are
you know, like in their twenties, it's like you do things.

Speaker 8 (14:22):
You do things because you're still kind of operating in
that that reptilian brain a lot of times. You know
what I'm saying, that that mammalian brain. So it's like,
sometimes we do things that are that are yeah, come on, man,
like we do things that are that can sometimes be
unconsciously selfish, that can sometimes be unconsciously harmful. Right, But

(14:42):
then you grow up, you acquire some things. You realize
that you got to move your mind differently in order
to in order to protect that what you have acquired,
that which you have that you care about, that you love.
So that means that you start developing, you know what
I'm saying. In different ways. People may destructions, attachments, and distractions,

(15:03):
but that change is over to love for your your family.
You know what I'm saying, Like I did a lot
of my changes not only just for I did a
lot of changes for me, but I also did them
because I was like, I want to be able to
be better for my children. You know what I'm saying, Like,
I want my children to see something different. So I'm
going to say that jay Z twenty years ago had
to be a lot different. Twenty four years ago, it

(15:24):
was different than he is now.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
You got a call.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
How you do.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Yeah feel Let's get to it. Why do you feel
like jay Z didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well?

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Turn music down in the back because I want to
hear him clear. Thank you go ahead.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I heard you say define that you have two
categories for me.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yes, I just don't think that.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Parent when you have a black man to come from
monthy projects, you gotta go through all all these valuables.

Speaker 11 (16:08):
We're not comparable to anybody, our people.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
We can't be simplified like that, first of all.

Speaker 11 (16:14):
Second of all, you saw a few pictures of can you.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
So you saw a few pictures with jay Z with
did you gotta you gotta bring up Mary Jay, You
gotta bring up anybody who stood next to this this
industry mobile. Just there's no way you.

Speaker 11 (16:35):
Can tag him from a picture and then put it
in front of a white court something we really don't trust.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
At all, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (16:42):
So we can see the better here, how they really
just cutting the head of all the high black A
teams from Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Look what they did to him and then it comes
out after.

Speaker 11 (16:56):
He did Now he's clear, uh, just because he wanted
to get see the Beatles Publishing or or Jays. He'll
be want to sue these big uh, these white liquor companies,
those are those are I think that's a big deal,
you know, And so you know, I just don't chastise.

(17:19):
And once once they get hit in front of the
public like that.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
That's all okay. So you you you, but you wait
for the receipts. You wait for the receipts.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Oh wait, Jack Johnson. If you know about Jack Johnson,
then you know the history of this.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Okay, this these are all Jack.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Johnson accusations, the black man who was beating up everybody
in Boston and then they hit them with sexual traffic.
So they've been doing this for thirty forty years. When
I can't beat you intellectually, you got too much influence.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
They destroy your character.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's what they do.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
That's what they do. I'm just watching the pat mm
hm Okay, I can't see.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Nobody coming out where he came from touching No thirteen
year older?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Come on now, thirteen right?

Speaker 11 (18:16):
I hope he ain't, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
And so we still don't know what what did he did?
Does does anybody know what the man did?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Get That's that's crazy too.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
No one can say, actual fact what these people did.
That's what's what. What's that fling to me?

Speaker 5 (18:37):
So the rulers, the rulers surrounding Diddy have been out
for years that the rulers surrounding Diddy have been out out.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
So I think what he's asking is it's a very
direct question, what what did? Like, what's the crime? That's
where he's getting at. What's the crime for him?

Speaker 9 (18:57):
Now?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Yeah, what's the crime? That's ways trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
It should be simple. They kicked all these man houses
then they did so much, it should be very simple.

Speaker 11 (19:09):
To say what he did.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
They don't throw you off and we don't know. We
can't say factually what this man did. We could be
up to say that by now.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
I thought it was sex trafficking. No, No, you should
be able to ask that, Yeah, sex trafficking. He he
had a lot, a lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 7 (19:32):
A lot of people came forth about the hold on,
a lot of people came forth about the abuse that
they suffered doing his freak off parties, being drugged up.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
That I thought that was common knowledge.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
But she.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Everybody thought something. Don't nobody know for sure? The fact
no one knows what he's being charged with. We all
operating off room.

Speaker 9 (20:00):
H m hmmm.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
A story.

Speaker 7 (20:03):
A story that is being cooperated by a lot of people.
I mean, yeah, you've seen You've seen the video of
him and Cassie, did you not?

Speaker 9 (20:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Okay, now that's one thing, all right, Okay, we're talking
about the big thing.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Yeah, I grew up.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'm not making light of what happened with Cassy and everything.

Speaker 9 (20:28):
Right.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Uh uh.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know she left one to jump to this other producer.
You know, she's not the most moral and ethical person.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
And that's the first thing that people do. They destroyed
the character of the woman. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 7 (20:54):
She went from one person to the next. What does
that have to do with the fact that he beat
the ship out of.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
Her on camera?

Speaker 6 (21:00):
He's she still didn't deserve to get beat period.

Speaker 11 (21:04):
I'm not making light of what he did. I'm not
justified that.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
I wouldn't say he beat the ship out of her.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
He kicked her like a dog. I'm gonna say he
kicked her like a dog. Okay, I mean, man, thank
you Swiss. But she got thirty million, Yeah she did. Okay,
your point, Hold.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Up, Let me stop, and I'm not trying to justify it.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Hold on, hold on, time out, go ahead, I'm out.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
Let me explain something about abuse.

Speaker 8 (21:41):
Right, it was It's an absolute fact that the only
reason why that was caught one camera was because of
the fact that he had gotten so comfortable in his
abuse that he didn't give a ship. Okay, I don't
care who you are. I don't give a fuck. And

(22:01):
I'm gonna put it right. I'm gonna put it just
like that, right, you do not hit somebody else. If
I went and I smacked the shit out of out
of one of my boys, everybody will be ready to
put me into jail.

Speaker 6 (22:15):
Right, everybody will be ready yeap. And and I don't
give a shit what.

Speaker 8 (22:19):
And because of the fact that they actually caught it
and put it on video, that means that it had
happened repeatedly. That was just one incident. That was one
that was one documented incident. But abuse never happens in
a vacuum. It never happens one time. It's it's a
repeated cycle. And here's where I say about anybody who
has receipts. I'm still waiting for jay Z's receipts because

(22:42):
my thing is is that that's what I that's what
I look for.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
I look for. Do you have that character right?

Speaker 8 (22:49):
Do you have that character way down deep inside to
do something like this, But I gotta see receipts of it.
Me personally, I haven't seen receipts of it from all
his time in the public eye, right, So I'm waiting.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
But if you got.

Speaker 8 (23:02):
Receipts, if it is a part of you, if you
are known for anger issues, if you are known for
being manipulative, if you are known for being.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Exploited, it's what it is. It's what it is.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
Like they say that where there's smoke, there is fire.
A what's going on side your beajing withers food?

Speaker 6 (23:19):
I see you hate fam afam.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
No, if you have that character period, you have that
character where there is smoke, there's always fire, there's always
fire unless you have a reckoning. So I mean, you
can miss me, you can miss a million other people
who have been abused in their life with that.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
It was only one thing and it was her fault.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Now, sir, Yeah, we fear it's not incarcerated about that.
So I'm not trying to emphasize that that's been taking
care of and what I'm talking about, I'm not justifying it,
So I don't if I don't sound like I'm making light.

Speaker 11 (24:02):
Of what he did to the girl.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's not what I'm talking about. But I'm being as
technical with this situation as the court system is with
our so my what presses my button? It's sort of
like what presses your buttons? That abuse seem like it
pressed the button as he should. For me, it's, you know,
the predatory activities of the justice system on a black man.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
And so.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
We're not really talking about that. We were really talking
about the simple question of what the man did, and
we really don't know. So now we're grooping up a
bunch of rumors. He didn't conduct the most exquent moral business.
We know that it contract was horrible, you know, but
we still.

Speaker 11 (24:51):
Can't say what he did. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm just putting the same energy that takes place in
the court. He's I'm must guilty. Uh beforehand, you know
you got an ample time peace. They let him out
on bail.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
I've seen that ten million, ten million, yep. I seen
that man gave.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Fifty million club houses, three at Temple And you know,
I know a lot about this, and I know more
than the rumors. Also know he got kids that somehow
about for you know, kids are also indicators of abuses,
they tend not to be so suddenly abusers don't normally

(25:37):
ride with their mothers like this. He has a reputation
of being.

Speaker 11 (25:41):
Type with his mama, being type with his kids.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
That's rumored that that that woman is rumored because.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
I mean, I never heard that before. I've never heard
that that lady was his aunt. That's the first time
I heard that. I'm not heard justify clean Dinny by
the way.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay, I heard from heavy breathing over there.

Speaker 9 (26:10):
So.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I feel like rolling over there is rolling over here.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
We know a protector of a black woman. I'm a
protector and a provider. But I'm just talking about legally.

Speaker 11 (26:25):
I think there's the abuse of what they're going to
the project. They got them all rightings Island?

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Uh, along with the with r Kelly should be out
come on now that was R Kelly was messed.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
R Kelly married Aliyah and how old was she when
they allegedly got married.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Okay, let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, but we got to step outside of Americas if
you ever traveler, and I would never think.

Speaker 7 (26:51):
Of we can't go about what somebody else do when
we're gonna fix what we got going on in our community.

Speaker 5 (26:59):
You know, we we keep looking at everybody else, will
they do it? How come we can't do it?

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Do you know?

Speaker 7 (27:04):
I read the reason why a lot of victims do
not come forward is because of that. What goes on
in this house stays in this house. Yeah, that that
is why.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Come on now?

Speaker 7 (27:16):
And then the first thing we want to say, well,
well she was a whole no, and then we then
we want to then we then we want to come
and comfort to defend the.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Guy that actually did it.

Speaker 9 (27:30):
Now m h.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Okay, go ahead, the parents.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
And being like baby.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Talk about a child and we're not talking about the.

Speaker 11 (27:47):
Drive with built over there and I'm not justifying it.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I'm just there in there that.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
I can see.

Speaker 8 (27:58):
I'm gonna be I'm being curious. Yeah, okay, I'm being
curious and being curious.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
I'm I am one to say that sometimes I don't
see things from a different from from from my brother's
perspective because I don't live that life, right, And I
can definitely understand.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
I can definitely understand what you're saying, especially when you.

Speaker 8 (28:17):
Brought it back to like Jack Jackson and how he
was persecuted, right, and like you know, there's been countless
other men who have who have been in situations that
were fabricated, and that because of the fact that, I mean,
that's happened, like that's happened with our people for like
for years and years, right, And I can see exactly,
I can see what you're saying when you're like, come.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
On, man, like this is another another one, another one.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
Yeah, and that is not cool. And I understand what
you're saying.

Speaker 8 (28:44):
You're saying, you're like, you're you're basically saying, let us,
let us not be persecuted, just like you got all
these white men who are out here who were doing
all this bullshit and they're getting off like the guy
from the guy from the came in Islands.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Like you know, like.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Yes, they just left him out of jail.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
You know what I'm saying, Like, basically, you're saying, let
the system be equal. Here's what I'm saying. I'm saying them,
and I don't care what race you are. If you
are a predator and you're who have predatory behaviors, you
need to be hot locked behind them ador some there,
that's our people, that's them, that's the other ones.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
I don't give a shit. If you purple, that's facts,
that's on.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
That is doing my mama, if you have predatory behavior,
because that affects that affects me, that affects my daughter,
that affects your daughter, that affects your If you and
if you say, if you give a blank statement, a
blanket statement and say that all of these predatory men
should be they should just be allowed to you know
what I'm saying, Like, even if the receipts are there,
then that's but I'm saying, we already know we have the.

Speaker 6 (29:48):
Receipts of r Kel. We have the receipts. I hate
to say it because Cosby was my man, but we
have the receipts of Cosby.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
You understand what I'm saying. That most's getting ready to
take office, we have receipts in him.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Guess what what do you feel.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Now, don't you?

Speaker 2 (30:09):
M M?

Speaker 9 (30:10):
I'm just.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
That's cute that you.

Speaker 5 (30:18):
Drop a few pills.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I mean no, no, I'm saying during.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
That era, that's that's that's how they park. Let's not
forget that a lot of these people adopted these behaviors
from someone else's characters. That is I'm not justifying it
I'm not saying that they should not have been penalized,
but some of this stuff is abusive. I mean, you know,
when you want to rehabilitate somebody other cultures they sitting.

(30:46):
They people off to other forms of rehabilitation. That's all
I'm saying. I'm not saying that they should not be penalized,
but you know some of this stuff is you don't
think it's a little a humane what's going on with
with some of.

Speaker 11 (31:01):
These guys, or you just think they deserve to be
decapitated like that.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
What about the women that was used as party favors
on the table that was underage?

Speaker 6 (31:13):
You know, we can talk about this.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
You're talking about Bill.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Bill, I'm talking about Diddy. I'm saying, we want to
why are we that's the problem?

Speaker 8 (31:23):
Why that's the problem there here is the at I
don't I still don't.

Speaker 11 (31:30):
Know who's the underage. I've heard the story.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I still can't say factually that on the record that
that any of these that he did something with with
the with the child, I mean, can you I just
don't know. I'm playing the role of like an attorney now,
I really don't know factually.

Speaker 11 (31:54):
I've heard one hundred rumors yet.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
I have, But why just to be right saying like
that's embarrassing, I mean yours taken away from you?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah yeah, I mean I mean when when you be
hesitating in coming out saying, yeah, this man drugged me up,
bit me over and in two, three, four, five men
had they wait with me? Would you be would you
would you be eager to come out and say that? Yeah.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
So it's basically I think we could talk about this
like forever and forever, right yeah, and oh the parents.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
Are world okay until the check stopped coming.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Oh like okay, miss Smith okay, miss smith Man.

Speaker 8 (32:45):
Come on, because that's also true. That's also true. At
the end of the day, the thing is is that
I just want to.

Speaker 11 (32:56):
Thank you, oh protect our women.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Our women, uh have been a beautiful.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
For too long.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
There you go.

Speaker 11 (33:05):
I gotta make that point now.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I'm not in my my lawyer bag.

Speaker 11 (33:08):
I know what's going on in our community and it
ain't right.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (33:12):
Yes, Also, black men have been persecuted, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 11 (33:19):
So I love what y'all do. Thanks for having me on, and.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
I'm okay, thank you mister Mike, I mean mister mag
all right.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
Every time I see him pop up, I think it's
Mac tonight, It's Mac tonight.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
It's remember that. No, just me?

Speaker 6 (33:36):
Is that a Midwest thing?

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Does anybody else have any thoughts on what's going on
with jay z or we're moving on from that because
they gotta eat it?

Speaker 11 (33:44):
Was it?

Speaker 6 (33:45):
I don't think that was heated.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
I think that that was that was a was spicy
that What was nothing wrong with that? That's beautiful. No,
I think that's beautiful. Had a lot of go on
this year.

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Look, I think that Ken Youbourn just put his microphone
on as protests, was like, I'm not saying nothing, Like
I'll just not gonna say nothing about the situation.

Speaker 6 (34:08):
Nah, I want to hear it. I want to hear
thoughts and feelings from our from our two male panelists.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I don't like to speculate. That's why I understand where
you know our brother was coming from. It's like, Yo,
because I'm a in the court of law. How reliable
is the testimony?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
As soon as you hear it, we're talking about a story.
By the way, from my perspective, this is what happened.
You swear to tell the truth, but truth to the
words words. Okay, how reliable is the testimony?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
All right?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Now, as a lawyer, what are you gonna do if
you don't have any physical evidence?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
As he say, she say, as a man. As a man,
we're realists. We like to.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I gotta because I'm telling you, we make decisions like
that and that's how we get results.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
So this is why the system is designed. It's not
about the truth. It's about what you can prove. That's
the whole thing. So if you have a character witness,
all right, the opponent is gonna try to discredit them,
and so everybody else out here. You know, since we're
throwing it up the public opinion and it's a public court,

(35:26):
that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
We ain't official, we're not critically thinking here.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
It's just some of us are just using our slants
and our biases and just tossing it around and disguising it.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Like it's facts.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
So John is more on the on the side of
I could form an opinion, but it won't mean shit.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
But when it's on tape come out then yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Okay, yeah, and when it's on tape. But I will
say this again, I don't like to.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Speculate, but one piece of information that stood out for
me was thirteen years Oh, but dad knows, I gotta
step I got a step daughter. Let me find out
some shit. Like I think I'm not gonna say anything.
You think I'm gonna wait twenty years to say something
for my daughter?

Speaker 6 (36:15):
Come on, because that's getting deal with it.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You think I'm gonna wait nothing.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
That's the blood is and a predator. That right there
is the difference.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
So this is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
When someone comes out and they say that, and they
say it's been twenty years later, twenty years ago, dad
knows now, I'm like, Okay, hold up, you missed the
whole fucking step dad. What the you gotta talk now?
I need some answers. I need some answers. I'm grilling
you now, we'll set you. We'll come back to your daughter.

(36:52):
I got I got some questions for you now. So
we're just playing lawyers out here, and I'm not. I'm
not practice enough to be a lawyer.

Speaker 8 (36:59):
So that's the reason why I was like, I'm waiting
for receipts when it comes to that man, when it
comes to jam, I'm.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Waiting for receipts. I'm waiting for receipts. And that's that's
it for me.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
It's not a very good father, baby.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
That's if if if he knew, I'm waiting for receipts. Man,
I'm waiting for receipts. Because I was just telling you
the other day, I was like, Man, I was like,
I like to have I like to have some type
of verifiable fact, if there's some type of evidence, there's
something that's like.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
The only evidence that I've seen of jay Z.

Speaker 7 (37:33):
Even though I don't know if y'all familiar with Jaguar, right,
who's been talking about this man for three years? I've
seen I've seen him in the in a P Diddy's
party before he got X rated. He was snatching a
phone out of someone's hand. I seen a video of
him mashing the girl in the face and his bodyguard

(37:56):
or whoever was behind him actually seen him do it
and look like like, dude, that's a whole female but
did nothing. So there are there are little videos out
there that you're getting a glimpse of his character. Yeah,
and you know, and let's just be real. Did you
see the way that John just snapped off at the

(38:18):
thought of something happening to.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
His step daughter. He's not gonna wait twenty years to
handle it. He's gonna handle it. Then.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
The difference between a protector and a predator. A protector
gonna snap out, a predator does not care.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Let me ask this, John, how old is your daughter?
She's eleven years old.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
I don't know about you. Know, something happens to you
when you have children. You know, and all the things
that you might have thought, all the things that you
might have believed, they change, they shipped when you have
this fragile little person. You've got this fragile this fragile entity,
this whole I mean, with personality and feelings and everything.

(39:03):
They change once you have once you have a kid.
So eleven years ago, John might have not. And I'm
not saying this about you, John, I'm not saying this
about you. I'm dispecting. I'm speculating, right, Maybe John wasn't
in that same Maybe he wasn't in that same place.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
You know.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
I mean jay Z had to have Blue IVY, he
had to have you know what I'm saying, he had
to have it. Maybe he had to have his kids.
I'm saying that when you normally normally things change, people evolved.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
So I can see him. He was from Marcy Gardener's
Man of Force.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
I can see him snatching somebody's phone and throwing that
shit because he's.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Like, Bro, I'm at a party.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
Get that out of my face.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
You know what I'm saying. I'm just trying to have
a good time.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, we are we talking about character? Are we talking
about a crime? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (39:49):
No one was supposed to have that phone. Their phones
at the party.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Thing is yeah, okay, character is just the accessory. We
gotta focus on the crime. That's the most men I mean,
in terms of this whole issue. Again, I'm looking at
everything and I'm like, Okay, I.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Get it, I get it. I get it. Men aren't consensus.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I like to see something tangible because everybody's anybody can talk,
anybody can come up with a story. Yeah you know,
and then you gotta think, what does a story do
to your brand? Your brand is how you make money. Yeah,
the right story could fuck up your brand even right,

(40:37):
we're talking about that, right, So this is why we
don't deal with the character. We're dealing with the crime.
The character can match the crime, but you can't criminalize
the character without the crime. You gotta have the crime.
So the brothers are just saying, hey, can we get
to the crime already? I'm tired of so John is

(41:00):
just I'm tired of speculating. I just like, I want
to shut this shit up. Show me, just fucking show me,
please it.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
And I agree with with that.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
You know, I'm neutral, like I don't like that, ole John,
you automatically need to hold up.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Shut the fuck up. This is my feeling. I don't
have to do anything now.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
If you want to converse with me about how I
arrived at my conclusion, we can do that. But this
is not a John I'm gonna convince you or I'm
gonna taunt you into We're not doing that because if
I did that to you, that would be bullying. Yes,
that would be emotional. Oh you don't believe, Like, if
I'm giving you facts, that's one thing. But if I'm
bullying you because you don't feel and think how I

(41:42):
feel about the speculation, it's a speculation, and you're bullying
me to believe your speculation, and you're mad that I
don't believe it so easily, but then it goes the
other so it's like, Yo, can we not do that
part the bullying because speculation?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Can it just be hey, let's just okay, we got
all these theories out here. Nice too bad? They just theories. Yeah, yeah,
we remember that part.

Speaker 5 (42:11):
Yeah, I get what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, what you can prove, it's all about what you
can prove. A story is cool, right.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
But so so when it came to P Diddy, you
you held out until you've seen Oh man, that video.
That video was just condemning until then. Okay, I get
what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
Yeah, And so our brother before was just saying, so
when he said that's done, he was saying he had
to atone for that.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
So that's it was.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
That incident got met with something. So whether we agree
on the severity of the retribution that got dealt with
at that time, you can't. You can't charge the man
for two for the same crime twice. You can't do
it twice if he didn't do it again, you know.
So this is what he's trying to do. He's saying,
can you separate that and focus on the crime that's now, Like,

(43:06):
if it's about sex trafficking, can we focus on the
actual individuals that were involved in the trafficking. Can we
focus on the transactions because I mean, I'm sure you
had money circulating. I mean, this is a business here,
so I'm sure you can. We get to that stuff,
the cold stuff, the all right, hey, exhibit A exhibit seven.

(43:29):
L Can we get to that stuff. That's where the
brothers are at. Can we see this receipts? But again,
you got people that's like, man, you should you.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Should not be asking for it.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
You should be feeling this way first, because like you
want me to have the attitude first and just say
fuck the evidence, just wait for the evidence to confirm
your attitude.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
We don't do that.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
Do you believe in guilty by association?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Guilty by association? All right?

Speaker 5 (44:00):
I can accept Yeah, I can.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
I can accept some of that. I can accept some
of that.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
But it's not causal. It's correlational. That just means that
the stars were in this. They're just in the same space.
They cooperate with each other, but you're not proving that
they're actually involved with the thing that we're criminalizing for
him for.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
So we're saying, hey, can we focus on this thing.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
Let's not do this, let's not do the Oh, hey,
they were at the same club at seven oh five
and this let's do the this cause B call C
CAUs D and then not.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
This is why we're here today, Okay, all right, And
I'm only saying that because I understand you have to
be careful who you hang around with. Yeah, can be
careful who you associate with.

Speaker 7 (44:46):
If I am walking down the street with a woman
that is a non three h four that sells, you
know herber JJ, she's one of the people that see
me with her, are going to automatically assume, even if
I'm not doing anything, she must be like her too.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
That's that's fair, Okay.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I want to also add just one exhibit that we
see one exhibit this year that we've seen full completion
from beginning to end.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Jonathan Majors. What happened at the end of that story?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Hmm?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
What did he lose because of that story?

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Your your mic is off, Ivy, Your mic is oh no,
keep going, okay, No, I thought you were talking.

Speaker 7 (45:43):
Okay, go ahead, go ahead, Jonathan, Jathan Jonathan.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
So this is the risk, right, this is the risk.
It's we better not ask the question. And I understand,
I understand we better not ask the question. Hey, what
if she's wrong, We better not ask that question, because
basically you're saying, yep, you're gas lating this woman, right,
she's a victim, not evidence of a crime yet, but

(46:13):
we've already labeled her.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Okay, she's already got the label.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
So you look at Jonathan Majors, and everyone's looking at
the same thing, like, Yo, this dude didn't.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Do anything wrong.

Speaker 9 (46:24):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
He's like the real victim.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
And then in the end he loses all these deals
and all of this taught like just the public image
done up in flames. This man is burning a lot,
and then in the end she drops the case.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
All that all right, I'm done like that, Like that,
that's a very serious thing, miss just like.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
The football the guy that.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Movies.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
But no, but there is a guy that that's just
happened to m He was supposed to go pro the
day he was the day before he was supposed to
be drafted, they came out with rape allegations, and whatever
career he would have had was it went down the toilet.

(47:21):
So I do understand that these things happen.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Now I gotta go look this up.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
But you know, so it's it's I'm just identifying it's
risky on both sides, right, It's risky on both sides.
Hence like taking any consideration for the woman to remain anonymous,
for the for the you know, the victim to be anonymous.
I'm like, oh, that's cool, you know, for to remain anymns.

(47:50):
But then it's like, well, wait a minute, how do
you know that this isn't like how do you know?
That's like okay, like nothing that because now all I
got is a story like I don't even have a face,
you know, it's just a face.

Speaker 7 (48:09):
You don't have a face of the woman who claimed
that she was taking advantage of by Jay.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
Z twenty years ago.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
I wait for the receipts. I always wait for the receipts.

Speaker 8 (48:25):
Man, I'm telling you, be being in public affairs, begin
being in like you know, the journalism field. It taught me,
you know, it's like, I mean it really it. Also
it also it showed me that that unfortunately, sometimes the
best teams are the ones that win. You know what

(48:46):
I'm saying, Like some I mean it's it's cauzzle with everybody.

Speaker 6 (48:50):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (48:51):
I mean, it's it's like everything can be a little
bit of causal when it comes to when it comes
to allegations like this. So for me, I just I
literally I'm I look the fact that some people can
make those some people are they're different than who they
were a long time ago, and I'm just like, I
look for the receipts. Where are the receipts? That's right, yes, Dad,

(49:12):
But I will say this, and you know, do.

Speaker 7 (49:15):
You believe that men who who had I don't know,
if I want to say predator character behavior can change?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Can they rehabilitate the ability?

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Why not?

Speaker 9 (49:33):
Don't see?

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Motivation? You know what's your motivation?

Speaker 8 (49:36):
That's true, everybody can change. The question is what will
they actually do the work it takes to get there.
I think that that's the that's the question because at
the end of the day, is it do they have
the strength? I'm gonna be honest, man, Listen, people be
talking about some all I shoot guns, I sling ship
in the hood.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
That's not there's no courage in that. There's no courage
and that you know what it takes.

Speaker 8 (50:02):
It takes courage to face yourself, It takes courage to
face your kids. It takes courage to face generational traumas
and to push that shit.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
That's what takes courage. So I think that people who.

Speaker 8 (50:16):
Have predatory who might have or might have had predatory behavior,
and then they make that change, that is the ultimate
sign of the I mean, that is the strongest person
that you could possibly ever think of. Because there's somebody
who's got to Can I tell the story real quick?
I promise you, it's only gonna take thirty seconds.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (50:39):
There was a fellow, there was a fellow that was
that was in twelve step with me. This fellow had
childhood predatory behaviors, right, okay, exactly. And however you feel
about that, right, I mean, because I know I'm just
like right. But the fact that that cat was on

(51:02):
every day, yes, you have to be come on, I
come on the fact that he was actually in that
room every day, the fact that he was doing service
three times a week, the fact that he went out
into his community, you know what I'm saying, And the
fact that the fact that that cat was on his
job every day to make sure that he didn't hurt

(51:23):
any any other people, any other kids, like nothing else.
I had to take my hat off for him. Because
that is hard. It's hard, and he knows what everybody
he Okay, excuse me. He assumes that a lot of
people think very ill towards him. He went to prison,
he served his time, he came back out, and he

(51:44):
was like, I have to be on this every day
because I don't want to do the same things that
I did.

Speaker 6 (51:48):
That is courage.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
That takes courage, and so so I believe for these
people who are out here who might be doing predatory things,
my question is is do they want to change? Have
they changed? Do they have a different mindset? And if
they have a different mindset, then with the punishment fit
the crime. Do you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Now, let's go on the other side of that right there, right,
Let's go on the other side of that build, on
other side of the building, right right. What happens if
because we're talking about rehabilitation, what happens when you are
misdiagnosed and you are given a treatment plan for something
that you've already treated, but because the public doesn't believe

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you're rehabilitated, because.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
They're the one who gave you the label. So now
you got to prove to them.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
You got to prove to the public that you are
not this thing, even though the whole time you are
not this thing. But you've already been condemned for it,
because even though the evidence may say otherwise, they just
believe it. It just seems to be true. They could
take something that is totally not in alignment with your character,
such as a drug addiction, and they can tie it

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to any character trait. You can do that all the time, right,
So this is what I'm saying. It's like, I believe
in true rehabilitation for the individual who truly is, you know,
conditioned for the crime.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Right they are exhibiting habitually the behavior.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
But what if it's someone because we're talking about an
isolated event. All it takes is one event and then
we have all of these mannerisms. We just have mannerisms,
but we have this crime right here. It's like, oh, yeah,
not only did he do that ship, but he did
everything else.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Let's see.

Speaker 11 (53:43):
What he.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Look I took a break for a while. I took
a break, bro, I.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
Took a break matter, it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
You see, I took a break and he didn't even
notice it.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah I did.

Speaker 7 (54:05):
I was getting ready to come for you. I ain't
gonna even lie. It's being in my brain. My whole
body chemistry changed. I was like, what I thought, we
was getting ready to come for you.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
Because ain't nobody gonna come for John on this guy game.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
I don't nobody talk about John.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
I would We were just saying to that.

Speaker 7 (54:28):
I said, now, considering jay Z in his affiliates, if
somebody came and told me that ship about John, I'll
be like, yeah, right, for the receipts.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Where the fun is the receipts. So I get what
you're saying.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Yeah, it's like character crime. You gotta tie them together.
You gotta tie them together. But sometimes it's like, you
don't have a crime yet, but you have a character
and what looks like a crime, and so you criminalize just.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
That, and and let's go ahead and keep it at
Let's go ahead and keep it a buck man. A
lot of people are so willing to live in this
black and white thinking. This is the reason why people
get canceled. This is the reason why people get personally assassinated,

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like their characters get assassinated, right because of the fact
that you got these things and people want to think
in terms of black and white.

Speaker 6 (55:29):
Black and white.

Speaker 8 (55:30):
Easy is it is manipulative, It is destructive. If you
don't come into bat it is, it's destructive.

Speaker 6 (55:38):
I'm saying that because you have to.

Speaker 7 (55:39):
Talk about that, because you know, when it comes to
being a protector and a predator, that's to me, that's
black and white.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
You either or or you ain't. Either you about.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Protecting women and children or you a predator. There is
no in between. For me, there's there's gray there is
no there is for me, there is no gray area.

Speaker 8 (55:58):
I'm all right, So I have learned to be about
It's great. I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead, but.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
No, let's let's play with that.

Speaker 9 (56:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
So, so here's so I get the black and white
thinking out of you. Is are you aren't right? So
you don't think that could be on a continuum. You
think it's without fail. You don't think men can fail
to protect.

Speaker 6 (56:23):
Oh absolutely, That's the reason why I said, it's the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
We're not allowed to fail to protect. We're not allowed like, hey,
I get it, I got it right all these times.
I fail one time. Goddamn, I got it right sixty
seven times.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
But one's got But I feel.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
I'm saying it's.

Speaker 8 (56:45):
That one listen, because women are supposed to be nurturrous.
But the time you're selfish, oh you just selfish for yourself,
you're not. It is a continuum things.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
In my character to be that way. To my man, y'a,
it ain't in my character.

Speaker 7 (57:04):
He before he slip, before he when he slipt, my
hand is already hold on.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
Wherehere we going?

Speaker 9 (57:15):
But but but but is that for all men or
just your man? Okay? So why is it that you
have to protect women?

Speaker 5 (57:27):
That's your job, That's why you were created, that's what
you were born to do. You damn right. I said it.
I will say that said it. I will say that,
damn right. That is your purpose.

Speaker 7 (57:44):
Is to protect women and children. And do you know
why the children are going to want are the ones
is going to take care of you when you get old.
The women are the ones is going to bring in
the next generation.

Speaker 5 (57:55):
So you got damn right. That is your job, your purpose,
and you better you better walk better walk with pride
with it.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm gonna say I heard that.

Speaker 9 (58:08):
But in the community, you know, it's kind of tilted.
I understand some of the things that you're saying, but
in the community. Yeah, that's that's tilted. But I mean
it's peace and I respect on you know, I respect
what you.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Over here in this community unprotected, right, right, both of you.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
And and and again this because you are protected.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I swear y'all always leave out this part because this
part is essential to signal to the other women who
aren't protected. All right, you still you still have a
responsibility to want to be protected.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
There, you still gotta respect y'all. Be y'all be missing
that part.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I'm protected because because add that in there, because y'all
are conveying like it's automatic, like there's no Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
There's a reason. Okay, there's a reason. And so if
you if the women who.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Aren't protected don't understand that reason, they won't get it.
I'm not I'm not protecting liabilities.

Speaker 9 (59:16):
Just because you can carry a baby don't mean you
a good fit to be a mother. Everybody, every man
is not every man is not every man every man Okay, yeah,
once again, once again, fully, I understand.

Speaker 6 (59:40):
Hold hold over, day, hold over, day, hold over.

Speaker 9 (59:45):
Once again, this is why I said, before you even
come man, before John even spoke, I said, respectfully, respectfully.
I understand where you're coming from. But everybody is not
supposed to bear the kids. Everybody's not supposed to produce them.
Everybody is not supposed was to be protected. You would
like for it to be in the I don't know.
Let's use this beautiful word perfect in the perfect world,

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in the perspective of you want everybody to be able
to do this, that, and the third. We're always trying
to hold everybody accountable. But when it's all said and done,
when it really comes to the community, it still points
back to you. What are you doing to be a.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
Basic it's the natural order of things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
But that that involves cooperation, right, it's cooperation, all right?

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
So again again I want to emphasize here, I can't
protect somebody that don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Be protected over it don't make sense. I'm gonna tell
you something.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
The majority, the majority of my protection, it starts here first.

Speaker 8 (01:00:47):
Okay, all right, if you guys, if you guys are
not necessarily your job is not necessarily here to be protectors,
then our job is not necessarily to always have to
follow you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
We're not supposed to be always submissive.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
He's not saying that, but that's not what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
To the water.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
No, so what was no?

Speaker 11 (01:01:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Ivy, So I think you misconstruct what he was saying
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
It's it's it's about the reasoning, Like you don't just
make those assignments without a reason. Every role these are functions,
right you say protective, provider, nurturer, those are functions. The
action is in there, so there's a reason for it.
You don't just say that and not explain the reason.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
That's what we do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
We say, oh, you're you are a protector of provider. Okay,
why motivation? Right, Gotta go deeper. You gotta go deeper
than that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Come on, that is a function.

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
On this because we're at our one hour and I'm
gonna leave out on this note and when we come
back next month, this is just gonna be the prelude
to what we wanna be talking about in January.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
For to answer your question, it is the reason why
we created you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
Oh, I'm going on