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June 6, 2025 6 mins

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They testified under oath. Congress passed new laws. But we’re still told there’s “no evidence.” From alien tech denials to redacted reports, this episode unpacks how the UFO narrative is being manipulated — and why the real story might not be extraterrestrial… but psychological.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I'm Jim Detchen, host of Think First and someone
who spent way too much timethinking about the things we're
told not to.
I'm not saying I believeeverything, but I am curious,
especially when quantummechanics, government secrecy
and unexplained phenomena startoverlapping.
And yeah, I guess I'm friends,if you can call it that, with

(00:23):
Brandon Fugel.
He owns Skinwalker Ranch and wedo share circles, and let's
just say it's not the weirdestconnection I have.
So here's the question whenmultiple insiders, from Air
Force officers to NASAscientists, go under oath and
say we've recovered non-humantechnology and the government

(00:45):
responds by saying we can'tconfirm, but also, don't worry,
are we chasing UFOs or are webeing managed?
What if the biggest secret inAmerican history has already
been told under oath and noone's doing a thing about it?
Because here's theuncomfortable truth If David

(01:05):
Grush, lou Elizondo and MatthewBrown are lying, it's the most
elaborate hoax ever to slipthrough Congress.
But if they're telling thetruth, then the Pentagon, the
White House and half of ourdefense establishment are
actively gaslighting theAmerican people.
So ask yourself why does thegovernment keep saying there's

(01:30):
no verifiable evidence, whilepassing laws to recover,
declassify and secure non-humanmaterials?
Why do whistleblowers saythey've seen craft biologics and
videos, while officials counterwith the equivalent of a
bureaucratic shoulder shrug?
And why, after two historichearings, has no physical

(01:52):
evidence been shared, onlytestimony redactions and
awkwardly timed retirements?
This isn't about aliens anymore.
It's about narrative control.
When testimony from formerintelligence officers, navy
pilots and even NASA insidersall point to something
extraordinary and the officialresponse is a polished no

(02:15):
comment, you're not dealing witha truth deficit.
You're being managed.
You're being managed.
Let's take the timeline.
In 2023, David Grush testifiedunder oath that the US is hiding
a multi-decade crash retrievaland reverse engineering program.

(02:36):
He wasn't riffing on a podcast,he was sworn in.
Before Congress, fravor andGraves backed him with firsthand
pilot encounters, radar returnsand bizarre flight patterns
that make the F-22 look like apaper airplane.
And what did we get in response?
A Pentagon statement that boilsdown to interesting story can't

(02:57):
verify it.
Next question Then came 2024.
Lou Elizondo, the originalA-Tip insider, answers yes.
When asked if the US governmentis in possession of alien craft
and is reverse engineering them,michael Schellenberger submits
a 200-page dossier to Congressdetailing a secretive project

(03:22):
called Immaculate Constellation,complete with allegations of
F-22s being boxed in by orbitalobjects, and still nothing is
officially confirmed and nothingis officially denied.
That's not transparency, that'spsychological misdirection.
Dressed in khakis and wrappedin acronyms.

(03:42):
Dressed in khakis and wrappedin acronyms.
Now, in 2025, whistleblowerslike Matthew Brown claim they've
seen clear footage of UFOstaking evasive action the moment
a camera locks on.
Not grainy footage, not fuzzylights.
Clear tactical evasion, likethe object knew it was being

(04:04):
watched.
And yet we're told there's noproof.
Please trust the process.
Here's where the gaslightflickers.
The government now says UAPsare real, just not alien.
They say they're committed totransparency as long as it goes
through six levels of redaction.
They tell us there's nocover-up, but they keep
canceling hearings and delayingreports.

(04:26):
They assure us thewhistleblowers are credible,
while also implying the storiesare fantastical and unproven.
That's not truth-seeking.
That's a poetic truth operation, a story curated to make you
feel informed while keeping youin the dark.
So maybe the better questionisn't whether aliens exist,

(04:48):
maybe it's this what happenswhen the people sworn to tell
the truth, decide you don'tdeserve all of it?
And worse, what if theyconvince you that asking for it
makes you crazy?
That's how you gaslight arepublic Not by hiding facts,
but by weaponizing the doubt.
If nothing's there, why fightso hard to keep it buried?

(05:11):
And if something is there, whylie about it?
To the very people paying forthe programs?
One thing's certain Congressisn't letting this go.
Neither is the public.
But until we see the actualevidence, not just gripping
testimony and classified teases,we're not chasing aliens, we're
chasing accountability.

(05:32):
You don't need all the answers,but you should question the
ones you're handed.
Want to go deeper?
Visit gaslight360.com.
Slash clarity to learn how tospot gaslighting and poetic
truth in media, politics andhistory.
Empower yourself to dissectnarratives, uncover hidden

(05:56):
truths and challenge the tacticsthat keep us in the dark.
Light your flame and startseeing the world with sharper
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