Thinkin' on Lincoln

Thinkin' on Lincoln

A political podcast that won’t make you hate your neighbor. Curtis and Ryan unpack cultural and political issues facing Oklahoma and the nation with a light-hearted air. Brought to you by The Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs.

Episodes

December 10, 2025 35 mins

Ryan and Curtis sit down with Samantha Fulnecky to unpack the moment she received a failing grade for defending biological reality in class—and what happened after she filed a religious discrimination complaint against her university. 

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Curtis and Ryan are joined by Mike Palicz of Americans for Tax Reform to analyze the ongoing government shutdown: who’s to blame, what caused it, and what it will take to resolve it.

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September 29, 2025 52 mins

Curtis and Ryan discuss the impact of the assassination of Charlie Kirk. 

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September 15, 2025 57 mins

Ryan and Curtis speak with Neil Chilson of the Abundance Institute about who should lead the regulation of AI and how aggressive those regulations should be.

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August 18, 2025 38 mins

Curtis and Ryan talk with John Stonestreet, president of the Colson Center, about a new documentary he partnered with Focus on the Family to create, titled Truth Rising. The film examines the decline of Western civilization, addresses contemporary societal issues, and underscores the hope found in Christ—encouraging you to embrace your God-given calling to be a catalyst for renewal.

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Curtis and Ryan give an update on how legislative session has gone so far and how the last few weeks might shape up.

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March 31, 2025 44 mins

Curtis and Ryan talk with David Bahnsen, Chief Investment Officer of The Bahnsen Group and bestselling author, about flipping the script on how we see work—and why it might just be one of life’s greatest blessings.


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March 17, 2025 49 mins

Curtis and Ryan sit down with former state Representative Kevin McDugle to discuss the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Glossip v. Oklahoma and his role in the case. 

Notes: https://www.reedsmith.com/en/news/2023/03/reed-smith-glossip-investigation-releases-new-findings-evidence-withheld 

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March 4, 2025 49 mins

This week, the guys take a step back from Oklahoma politics to explore a broader perspective on the major projects unfolding in Washington, D.C.

Have a guest suggestion or feedback? Let us know at digital@ocpathink.org.


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February 14, 2025 53 mins

Tax expert and Senior Policy Analyst for the Tax Foundation, Manish Bhatt, joins the guys to talk about the complications, functions, and frustrations surrounding the property tax.

To read about the REINS Act, check out this article from OCPAthink.org, "Effort to reduce state regulation gets bipartisan support"

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January 17, 2025 43 mins

Listen in as the guys discuss what to watch for in the upcoming legislative session and a few grassroots initiatives that you should probably keep an eye on.

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November 22, 2024 49 mins

The guys debrief the results of the recent election cycle, including Oklahoma voters' historic decision not to retain an Oklahoma Supreme Court justice.

To read the article about judicial districts Ryan mentions, click this link.

For more information on OCPA's judicial scorecard, click here.

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October 3, 2024 43 mins

Renowned law professor and former OCPA fellow Andy Spiropoulos sits down with the guys to talk about controversial workers' comp issues and related cases that Oklahoma's highest court has mishandled.

Click here to read Andy Spiropoulos' article "Once More into the Breach: The Path to Effective Workers’ Compensation Reform in Oklahoma."

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Ryan sits down with Ben Lepak to discuss a recent activist initiative to raise the minimum wage in Oklahoma and why it would be a bad move for the state.

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September 9, 2024 46 mins

Ahead of the upcoming November election, Curtis and Ryan discuss OCPA’s 2024 legislative scorecard and first-ever judicial scorecard.

Click here to see the 2024 Legislative Scorecard.

Click here to see OCPA’s Judicial Scorecard.

To learn more about the lawsuit over the University of Oklahoma’s racist scholarship practices, click here.

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Curtis and Ryan sit down with Dr. Brad Wilcox, Future of Freedom Fellow at the Institute for Family Studies and professor at the University of Virginia, to dive into his groundbreaking research on marriage and the family. They also discuss his new book, Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization.

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April 17, 2024 37 mins

Prof. Brian Fitzpatrick of Vanderbilt Law School talks to Ryan and Curtis about how Tennessee successfully changed its judicial nominating process—and why Oklahoma should do the same. They discuss the dangers of a bar-controlled court system and discuss what it would look like to allow the continuance of the Judicial Nominating Commission to be put to a state question.

For more content on the truth and dangers of the JNC, listen to ...

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April 3, 2024 31 mins

Curtis and special guest Dr. Ben Carson discuss life lessons, role models, and the ever-changing climate of American politics. Listen in to hear Dr. Carson's thought-provoking perspectives on the country's education system, the doom of repeating history, and the reality of the human condition.

Be sure to join us April 24th for OCPA's Citizenship Award dinner featuring former U.S. Secretary of Urban Housing a...

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March 11, 2024 36 mins

Curtis and Ryan discuss judicial reform in Oklahoma with Katie Daniel, Susan B. Anthony Pro Life America's state policy director, and unpack how Oklahoma's courts threaten the state's pro-life laws. 

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December 11, 2023 41 mins

Curtis and Ryan talk about the new school choice tax credit and tease major legislative priorities for the upcoming session. 

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