September 23, 2025 • 64 mins
Cancel culture takes a shocking turn as Jimmy Kimmel's late-night show faces indefinite suspension from ABC amid political pressure. Lawrence and Meryl unpack this troubling development, questioning whether we're witnessing the beginnings of entertainment censorship based on political allegiances. They explore the apparent hypocrisy of those who criticize cancel culture while celebrating when it targets voices they disagree with.
The conversation shifts to concerning social developments, including the revelation that over 70% of American teenagers now use AI chatbots for emotional companionship—with many finding these digital interactions more satisfying than relationships with actual humans. This trend raises profound questions about the future of human connection and emotional intelligence in younger generations.
From the mysterious death of a college student in Mississippi to Taylor Swift's increasingly elaborate security measures at football games, the hosts navigate a range of thought-provoking topics. They examine the announcement that "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives" star Taylor Frankie Paul will become the next Bachelorette, speculating whether this unconventional choice signals a new direction for the aging franchise.
The hosts also discuss celebrity fashion pushing boundaries with the "dressing naked" trend and the latest developments in the US-China deal regarding TikTok's future. Throughout, Lawrence and Meryl offer balanced perspectives while maintaining their trademark warmth and humor—proving that even in divisive times, thoughtful conversation remains possible.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome to this week's episode of Thirsty Topics
.
I'm Lawrence Elrod and I'mMeryl Clemo hey.
Meryl, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good, how are you?
We're recording.
Yes, we are recording.
I'm just saying things toconfirm them.
It's like me saying I havebrushed my teeth.
Yes, I have brushed my teeth.
Before I start with my firsttopic, I had to tell you
something funny and I wanteveryone to know this that this
week you were my latest victimof me messaging someone when I'm
(00:45):
sleeping and going on tiktok.
But luckily, my video that Isent you was just weird enough
that I thought because it's not,it's not weird for us to
message each other like newstopics or even something funny.
Like you're my friend, so Iabsolutely will like message you
something newsworthy.
You're silly now and then.
But like I think I sent yousomething about like, what ai
(01:06):
toothpaste would you use andanything.
I just want anyone that'sknowing that if you ever get
anything from me that's likefrom 10 pm on to7 am, just know
that it's me sleeping and I likelately I fall asleep and then
first my phone will usually hitthe head of my boyfriend and I
fall asleep and then, uh, andthen I've been known to just
send different TikToks to people.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It was a very interesting.
I'm like, okay, never thoughtabout that.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You never did tell me what AI toothpaste you would
choose, so I definitely want toknow the answer.
But yeah, I have to stopfalling asleep scrolling TikTok
because I'll repost stuff.
One time I reposted stuff aboutpeople with horrible
relationships with their motherand I have such a good talk a
good thing with my mom.
So, yeah, it's so silly allright now.
(01:56):
Well, thanks for the heads up,though exactly I told my friends
, if I'm messaging you at 3 am,it's not me, it's sleeping me,
uh, okay.
Well, one of the things, one ofthe reasons I couldn't stop
scrolling tiktok, is I'mmessaging you at 3 am.
It's not me, it's sleeping me,okay.
Well, one of the things, one ofthe reasons I couldn't stop
scrolling TikTok, is because thelatest in just insane news that
Jimmy Kimmel's show was yankedoff the air.
So Disney ABC is taking JimmyKimmel's late night talk show
(02:19):
off the air indefinitely, amid alot of public pressure from the
FCC.
Indefinitely amid a lot ofPublic pressure from the FCC.
Kimmel made some Comments in hisMonday night monologue About
Charlie Kirk's Suspected killerand then, you know, to some this
was like a Shocking decision.
But I think those of us havebeen Following along for a while
, we know that Trump is does notlike Kimmel and they've been
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going back and forth at eachOther for a while.
But this is definitely One ofthe most like, boldest and
craziest things.
I'm just like.
I mean just taking people offthe air because you don't like
what they say or because youfind what they have to say
offensive, and of course I meanmy first thought is also all the
people that work on his show,that they're affected, with
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their families and who don'tdeserve that, you know.
So I do think I think it wasn'tgetting great numbers, like I
also think it really wasn't likeprobably pulling in a lot of
money, but I think to me, likethat it could have gone on for a
long time and to have thistaken off because of like speech
(03:23):
is just really crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I agree with you.
I mean, I literally rewatchedthat episode multiple times and
I didn't see anything that wasso crazy or over the line.
Because you know, it's nosecret, I love watching Jimmy
Kimmel.
He's one of my favorite peopleto watch and I have seen him say
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way worse about the press.
I mean way worse and it's likewow, this is what gets you taken
off the air.
And I know I remember watchingcnn and there was a guest on
there that said that, um, hebelieves it has nothing to do
with charlie kirk, but somethingto do with trump getting
(04:10):
revenge, basically oh yeah,definitely I think he, because
he even tweeted out like yournet, or kimmel is next, or
something, after they firedstephen colbert.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And the funny thing is too, it's probably not even
jimmy kimmel that wrote.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It was like a writer, you know, and so I know it goes
past a different amount ofpeople but, imagine if you're
that writer like it's likeoopsie, sorry everyone you know,
yeah, and the crazy thing aboutit, I think this is a dangerous
slippery slope.
You're going down because we'realways going to have Republican
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presidents.
We're going to always haveDemocratic presidents.
They switch up every so often.
So you start setting up thisdangerous precedence about well,
I don't like what you saidabout my team, so I'm going to
get you taken off the air.
Well, what's to say or what'sto stop the opposing party from
doing the same thing to you?
I know, and you know how far isthis going to go?
(05:07):
A lot of people don'tunderstand is that?
Whether you like or dislike hismaterial, this is a dangerous
slope for America period.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
to me, Exactly Because, exactly Like I think.
I mean, if you look at like FoxNews anchors and stuff like that
, like a lot of people acrossthe board on both parties have
said stuff that could be deemedas offensive or antagonistic.
And then to me it's just soweird because, like I definitely
identify more and more just aslike very independent, I tend to
(05:38):
lean one way but I definitelyam more independent.
But like that is part of thething that the right has always
like said about the left is thatit's a lot of cancel culture
and like they don't like that.
It's, you know, too woke.
You're gonna cancel for this orcancel for that and this is
like the ultimate kind of likecry baby woke thing.
So, like you know, I can seethat sometimes where it's like I
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think there have been siteswhere if you don't post
something, or you do postsomething, you're kind of like
ostracized or whatever, and theright doesn't like that.
And then now it's like, okay,well, you're, you're doing it
times a million.
So, um, I really do feel likeit's both sides sometimes are
like little children and we justneed like a big parent to come
and help us.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But I agree, I totally agree.
I mean, I guess the thing I'mlooking at is is that you you
know about cancel culture on theone side, but then you're
celebrating Jimmy Kimmel beingtaken off the air.
That's really cancel, exactly.
Either you're for it or againstit.
You can't be both.
You can't be for cancel culturewhen it favors you, but when
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it's against you, oh I hate.
Cancel culture when it favorsyou, but when it's against you,
oh I hate.
Cancel culture.
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I know, and something very interesting I was just
talking about this with a friendis that I feel like Hollywood,
almost sometimes to a detriment,is like known for being like
very, very liberal, like in agood way, but then sometimes I
think because of how out oftouch Hollywood people can be
when they say something for acause, all of us just kind of
roll our eyes and it's just like, oh god, it's almost better
(07:07):
sometimes for, like people inhollywood, to not speak up so
much, because the rest of theworld at this point is like shut
up.
But but I think also too, it'slike the hollywood people seem
to be very like liberal, butthen the executives and like the
, the people in charge ofpulling the rug out from
everyone it it's like it isweird.
How not that it is so thepeople that make the big, big,
(07:28):
big decisions seem to be doingpower plays that are really not
human.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I agree, I mean another show that I like
watching.
I like watching the View, andwhat was really eye-popping
today is they said not one thingabout Jimmy Kimmel being
suspended.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I know, they know, because everyone is like cancel
these women cancel these women.
Also.
That's so amazing that you likethe view.
I feel like you should get a nomore.
It's like a man that likes theview.
That's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I like hearing everybody's point of view.
I like hearing everybody'spoint of view, whether you agree
or disagree.
I think everyone should have aplate at the table and sit there
and be able to express how theyfeel about a particular person,
subject or whatever.
Sometimes you're going to agree, sometimes you're going to
disagree, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, exactly Exactly , and the beautiful thing with
all these things to listen to isthat, like I don't have to
listen to Tucker Carlson or youknow he could do his thing and I
have the power to like choosewhat I'm watching and ingesting
and sometimes I do watch thingsthat I feel like are
oppositional, just because Ireally like to see the different
viewpoints.
And it's good not to live inlike your own echo chamber, so I
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really do like tune into that alot of other stuff.
But, um, yeah, I just feel likethis is weird for an executive
to say we're taking it off theair because, like, what he said
is, you know, bad, becausethat's not talking for the
general public or for a lot ofpeople.
Like half the country doesn'tfeel that way at all.
So, like I do, I do really dofeel like maybe the ratings were
(09:00):
bad, but I definitely feel likethis is a personal vendetta
from Trump for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Oh, I agree, and you know it makes you wonder if
there's something bigger goingon, because it was shocking that
not one thing was said on theView today.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very shocking.
I mean, they did the show, buthow about I explain it?
You can kind of feel somethingwas in the air.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, even like SNL or ones that have been making
fun of the president andeverything for a while.
It's scary because you alwaysthink, with these other
countries like this, how does ithappen that you're not allowed
to state your opinion or makefun of the leaders or whatever?
It is slowly happening.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh yeah, I agree and I think I think there's
something bigger going on,because supposedly and I'm going
to say supposedly, because Idon't know, but there's
rumblings about you know there'sa possible deal or a merger
deal going out there thatthey're trying to protect, or
whatever you know.
The problem is, when you runinto situations like this,
there's all kinds of conspiracytheories that get thrown out and
(10:07):
you don't know which is realand which isn't.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, now let me ask you something, cause I'm not
sure exactly how I feel about it, but there's also a part of me
that I for like late nightentertainment shows like Fallon
and Kimmel and Conan and stuff.
To me part of that job, is itthat that I?
I do think sometimes when itgets too political, it like does
take the fun and uniting like.
(10:31):
In my mind those shows aresupposed to unite us and almost
make us laugh and take our mindsoff of like the hard-hitting
politics do you think?
I don't know, it just seemslike it's also to me.
I'm not against Kimmel, but Ifeel like what should have just
been said was it's horrible thatsomeone was shot.
Anyway, moving on to this sloththat we're going to see the zoo
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bringing in or something, Idon't know what place very
politics or whatever now has inour late night, because to me
I'd rather leave it out andleave a lot of it out and just
have it be just more likeuniting and entertainment type
of stuff you know what?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I totally agree with what you're saying, but I guess
the only issue with thatstatement is if you want jimmy
to do that, then tell fox andother hardcore right-wing media
outlets to do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I guess, just for me.
I just mean the late night ones.
I don't know who, the CraigFerguson's or I don't even know
who's on at this point, butalmost exactly Not the more like
CNN and Fox ones, but the latenight the Colbert's, all those
ones, exactly, I just almostmean the late night the, the
coal bears, all those ones,stuff.
Yeah, exactly exactly like.
I just almost mean like thelate night variety shows, like
(11:49):
how letterman was and johnnycarson, like I don't know,
because I didn't really watch aton of them.
I don't know how like, liketotally political they got.
I know someone, maybe theirguest did, like george carlin
and people that he had on, butlike the host itself to me, I'm
just like I don't want to hearon both ends of things, just
like it gets like so deep down arabbit hole.
(12:09):
I think that for, like the latenight comedy shows, I think I'd
rather just like it, like itmaybe acknowledge it and try to
bring the world together, butthen, like, try to stick with
more entertainment yeah, I meanyou definitely have a great
point.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I mean, you know one of the things, and I think, for
what you're saying to me, snldoes a great job of this,
because SNL, you know, they makefun of everyone.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It doesn't matter who you are or whatever, but they
do a great job of keeping itbalanced and humorous and not
take it too far, to the extreme,which is very hard to do yes,
because I feel like we're allgoing berserk, because it's like
politics is blending intoeverything, like the fact that
like taylor, swift and kimballand like you can't you can't
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like look without somethingbeing polarized, and I think
it's making everyone nutty.
So I feel like we need more andmore things that are just like
uniting us and calming us andjust trying to be like funny.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, I agree.
And I mean, do you think andthis is a great question for you
do you think that this is goingto somehow maybe change or
alter the way comedians you know?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
talk about politics.
Now I'm laughing alreadybecause it's like I'm already
seeing a lot of my comedyfriends fighting, definitely,
like I mean I'm people like,like comedians that are saying
even like free palestine, andlike things like that in their
speeches are already creatinglike already existing divide or
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just deepening it, you know, andso absolutely, and I know I
know friends that are friendswith like writers on jimmy
kimmel and that work on thatshow and stuff, so like that my,
you know, I don't know themdirectly, but like the one my
friends are upset for thosepeople.
Um, so yeah, I mean, I think Ithink comedy wise it will make
like stand-up wise, it will makea lot of people just dig in
harder and almost double down.
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But then, like, like I alwaysdreamed of, like one of my goals
was, is to like be do a set onlike a late night show, and then
now I'm like, okay, by the timeI'm ready and I'm working my
way towards that, like what ismy late night?
It's just going to be like anai robot that I have to like get
approved by every singlepolitical party, you know.
So to me it's like the ourdreams like don't even exist
(14:22):
anymore, of performing on Ellenand all these things, because
all these things are taintedweirdly.
So, yeah, I think it will doboth.
It will make people double down.
But then people like Fallon, Iimagine, is probably like okay,
I'm just going to stick todancing and singing with Ariana
Grande, kind of things.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, Now I'm curious Do you think that Jimmy Kimmel
will be back?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, I don't, Wow, really I don't think he is,
because I think he is so alreadymouthing off at things that I
think he will be back, maybe ona different network or something
I feel like he is going to beoff of, like Disney and ABC.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Wow, really.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But I don't know.
I also do feel like, ifanything, there's also like a
third sector of people that Ifeel like I'm part of that are
just fed up with like like justhow fragmented we are and maybe
like a new type of moreentertainment for the sake of
like good, uplifting news anduniting people.
If anything.
That's almost one of my newpivot thoughts of just
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acknowledging the bad but thenfocusing more on that type of
entertainment.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Interesting.
I kind of wonder what they'regoing to do with that slot then
if they don't bring them backbecause they're in a time-time
spot.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I know it's so funny.
Every day that goes by withthese news stories you always
have to, as a comedian too,think in your mind okay, how am
I going to talk about this?
I think I had like four daysoff and then I was so thankful
that I don't have to do anyshows, like four days off, and
then I was so thankful that Idon't have to do any shows these
four days.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I kind of wonder if there's going to be
backlash if they permanentlydon't bring Jimmy back, because
he did have a big following andthere was a lot of people that
watch him.
You kind of wonder is theregoing to be backlash to where?
Because right now local knowlocal stations are fighting with
, with uh, with streamingchannels, because streaming is
the big thing.
Now most people are getting ridof cable.
(16:31):
They're not even watching localchannels anymore, they're
watching streaming now.
So if they don't bring jimmyback, I would not be surprised
if he has a podcast or a show ona streaming channel and it's
probably going to be 10 timesmore popular than he is now
definitely exactly like yeah, ifhim and like colbert team up or
something that would be amazingand you know what, if, if we
(16:54):
had said that a year ago, we'dprobably like no, that's
probably not but you
Speaker 2 (16:57):
know what that could really happen oh yeah,
absolutely, I definitely thinkso.
I think a lot of stuff now isjust like his buddy, adam
Carolla, was able to build likea whole life out of just his own
independent stuff.
And it's so weird to have, like, I know, the Writers Guild just
put out a statement that theystand with Kimmel and everything
, and it's so weird to have allthese entities like briefing
(17:19):
with each other, you know,because, like, the Writers Guild
can't really go.
I love it and it's the bestpeople ever, but it's like they
need directors in Hollywood toput their stuff on and so, yeah,
it's just a big cluster.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, Something tells me that this is not going to be
the end of it.
So we'll see.
Do you think they're going togo after more late-night
comedians?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh, yeah, I definitely do, I Do.
You think they're going to goafter more late night
communities?
Oh yeah, I definitely do, Idefinitely do.
Yeah, I don't know Exactly who,but I mean that would be Really
weird.
If, like censorship and we'lltalk later on about TikTok, but
like the word on the street too,is that like TikTok is going to
be starting To be like usedmore of a surveillance tool and
everything too.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But the scary part is that may be true.
That's the scary part.
If it's not already asurveillance tool, we just don't
know it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yes, so it will be interesting, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh, yes.
Well, talking about a very,very unfortunate incident, have
you ever heard of the singer?
His name is David.
Yes, have you ever heard of thesinger?
His name is David.
Yes, he just had a recentincident that happened.
Let's see here no-transcript.
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A body of a teenager that wasmissing was found in the
singer's trunk of his Tesla.
The singer's name is David.
The development came after theLos Angeles County Medical
Examiner Wednesday identifiedthe female body discovered last
week in the trunk of a towedTesla.
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Registered to the singer as a15-year-old Celeste Rivers.
She was a runaway that's beenmissing, I believe, for over a
year.
So right now they're trying tofigure out.
You know what happened to her?
Was it foul play?
(19:18):
So far the singer has not beenarrested or anything.
They're still doinginvestigations, but this is kind
of weird, I mean.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
my thought exactly because the way that all the
news was, it was like there wasa body found in this person's
car and it wasn't like thisperson is being charged with
anything.
It was, and I was like I don'tunderstand.
Does that mean someone justcrawled in the car and like got
in, or was he framed?
Um, you know, I haven't heardof david in a long time.
Like I think he's been out ofto me at least he's been out of,
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like the news.
But, um, yeah, it seemed verysuspicious and weird and I I
couldn't really understandexactly.
And the fact that they'resaying it's like a Tesla, it's
just I'm like did this person,did the Tesla, like drive itself
into something?
Or like I don't, you don'treally understand, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, cause it was kind of interesting that they
mentioned the car brand.
Normally they don't do that,they just say Exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Did someone self open it and then get in?
Or like did he, is he underinvestigation?
It open it and then get in, Ishe under investigation?
It's also a weird way to breakthe news that a body was found
in this person's car withoutquickly saying we don't suspect
him or he's talking toauthorities.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What's weird about it is you're right.
They didn't say that theysuspect them or they don't
suspect them.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
They just said it, which is kind of weird in itself
.
Sounds like maybe another hitpiece against Tesla.
It's very sad, very, very weirdand maybe like I don't know,
that's just very weird to have abody in your car and you would
think immediately he'd be likeoh, my car was parked here and I
didn't do this, or like myfriend borrowed my vehicle, or
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like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It just seems very, very weird yeah, there's reports
that I guess on one of hisfingers he has some kind of
tattoo, and it's the same kindof tattoo, on the same finger or
whatever, as the body that wasfound on his trunk.
Really now, whether that's acoincidence or not, I don't know
, but it kind of makes youwonder.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, that really does.
Yeah, that's weird.
And also you would think thatthey wouldn't put that out
unless they had evidence.
I think, if anything, if weknew more about the story, it's
like, oh, someone murdered aperson and then put them in the
singer's car.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know weird time.
The whole thing is really weird, but I think that it didn't get
a whole.
It did get some play on socialmedia, but not as much as
everything else going on,because this is what's going on
this week.
But I don't know, it's justreally weird, really weird.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I have to wonder.
I haven't heard.
Were you familiar with Davidbefore?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Before I heard the story.
No, I wasn't Okay.
Is he a big?
I'm assuming he's pop, or is he?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, I think he was a few years ago too, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did he put out anything recently?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
No, not that I know of, but I'm also I'm bad at that
kind of stuff.
I only know Alanis Morissette,who I don't think would drive a
Tesla.
Okay, well, we'll keep an eyeon that because I feel like more
will be announced soon.
Another singer you may haveheard of, an independent artist
(22:48):
called Taylor Swift.
Believe it or not, she'sexactly.
She hardly gets any press, butit's like it's so funny.
Whenever I prepare for ourrecordings and you know talking
to everyone, like every time I'mjust like, okay, let me like
google Taylor Swift if I can'tfind anything now at this time.
This isn't really newsworthy,but I thought it was at least an
(23:09):
interesting topic to bring upthat.
She just you know, she was atthe last season.
A lot of her Kansas City Chiefslike appearances.
We saw her directly.
We saw her with Blake Lively.
We saw her with the parents andchiefs like appearances.
We saw her directly.
Like we saw her with blakewively.
We saw her with the, with theparents, and you know, like part
of everything was what is shewearing?
The camera zooming in on likeher, every face and every
(23:30):
expression.
Now, this one, now this season,might be a little bit different
because, um, when they wereplaying the eagles.
She came in through like a bigbarricade, basically, you know.
So, like they, they put up ahuge black barricade, like
almost like a partition, toseparate them, and then they
held it.
And then her and her teamwalked by and people know, knew
(23:52):
it was her, because it was likefirst it was her security and
her assistant.
And then you see like littleshoes going by and people are
saying, okay, maybe she's doingthis in light of like some of
the recent violence that hasgone on.
Um, and then there's also wordon the street that her like box
may be tinted so that we can'tsee her as much.
(24:12):
Um, now do you think this islike because she's not getting
enough privacy, or do you feellike she's getting overexposure
or security or like all of it?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think somebody gave her this dumb idea because
really here's the thing when youknow a celebrity's walking
through, putting up a blackcurtain or whatever, walking
them down out, you still knowwho the person is yeah, yeah,
yeah, and it only brings moreintrigue.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I feel like you know.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Exactly.
It does the opposite, becausenow you're attracting, you're
bringing attention to yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, what about you though?
That like kind of now, like youknow, I feel, like once
unfortunately we know that sadlylike once one shooting happens,
like a lot of people get crazyideas and I'm not kidding, I
would be like if I was her orBillie Eilish, or like that's
one of the reasons I don't wantto be like crazy, crazy famous
or anything, because that seemslike a nightmare to just have a
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security risk, like everywhereyou go.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, you know that's
one of the negative parts aboutsuccess Because, again, you know
, one of the things that somecelebrities say is it's almost
like being a prisoner.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You have the money and the means to do whatever you
want whenever you want, but youreally can't because, again,
you got to have security aroundyou.
You got to be cautious aboutwhere you go, who you have
around.
So you know little things likeyou and I take for granted going
to the store, going to themovies.
You know somebody like a TaylorSwift it's a big production if
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they want to go to the movies.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, and then I saw a lot of comments that are like
she doesn't have to go to everygame or she doesn't have to go
to the games and she just wantsattention.
But it's like like that is herfiance, you know, you do want to
support him.
But I also feel like maybethere would be a way, I don't
know, maybe she could like getto the games earlier.
Like there has to be somecreative ways in which she could
like get to the box before anddoesn't have to pass by everyone
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.
But then I don't know.
It's just weird and I cantotally understand why she may
want like a dimmed box, becausemaybe she also doesn't want to
be shown on TV every othersecond when she's just trying to
watch the game or take awayfrom Travis or the rest of the
football game itself.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Oh yeah, definitely.
And you know what?
She's supporting her fiancé.
That's normal.
That's a normal thing people do, except she happens to be one
of the biggest stars on theplanet, exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, he goes to one of her concerts.
It's probably exhausting forthem to support each other.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Exactly, I think I don't know.
To me, everyone's intriguedwith celebrities and everything,
but sometimes people could beso intrigued that it's like,
okay, do you have a life?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
yeah, I know, I know mine was more.
It's interesting to, like you,know about the barriers itself
and, and that is so sad if, like, it's a security concern, I
think no one, no matter howfamous they are or not, should
have to worry about just likewalking 10 feet into a room and
having something bad happen tothem yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, you know what ?
She's living her best life.
I tip my hat off to her I knowme too.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She can't see you tip your hat off.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But well, um, been a lot of crazy stuff this week and
this story is actually prettydisturbing, but I felt it was
very important that we coveredit.
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This is a story about a collegestudent that went to school
down in Mississippi.
The body of a Delta StateUniversity student was found
hanging from a tree.
The sad part about this thingis that they're trying to figure
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out whether there was any foulplay.
Law enforcement said there's nofoul play.
The parents and their friendshis friends say that he was a
happy, go lucky guy, had noreason to do anything to himself
.
It doesn't make any sense and,um, you know, I could tell you
as a parent of a child uh, incollege, one of your, your
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biggest fears is your childbeing safe.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Seeing stories like this doesn't make me, or other
parents, feel any better.
The family of a Black studentwho was found hanging from a
tree on a college campus inMississippi has retained the
civil rights attorney, ben Crump, as questions continue to mount
around the death.
On Monday, staff at Delta StateUniversity found the body of
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Demar Travion Trey Reed nearcampus pickleball courts.
Micah Piller, the Delta Statepolice chief, has said Reed
appeared to have died by suicideand that there were no signs of
foul play.
But concerns have grown and thecase has brought up painful
memories of the state's historyof racist violence.
Then it goes on to say whilelocal police and the Mississippi
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Bureau of Investigation lookinto the deathorneys
representing the Reeds familyare conducting their own
investigation and plan to seekan independent autopsy.
This is a very, very troubling,troubling story, and I don't
know what are your thoughts onthis, meryl.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I have lots of thoughts.
My number one thought is Idon't know, I hope the autopsy
is like done honestly and youknow if they did find foul play.
A lot of times very sadly,these things are like covered up
, whether it's by the localpolice or the university itself
or you know, because they don'twant extra publicity in a bad
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way.
Um, so I hope, whatever is thetruth like comes out, and I
think that would give people notpeace but at least like
hopefully.
Like you know, knowing theinformation sometimes helps,
whatever amount it could help onthe other side.
I think a lot of people thathave lost ones to suicide have
like sadly been like they didseem happy and, you know, upbeat
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, like it's not always the casethat people are really upset,
like some sometimes, and itcould be a quick thing, like
someone gets broken up with orsomeone looks at their finances
and you know we never reallyknow exactly what's happening.
I don't know if there's drugsor alcohol, but to me, like it
definitely does seem suspiciousand like, of course, my first
thought is this does seem like aracial related thing, but I
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also, like you don't know andyou know that's just where my
mind goes to.
But we don't know, and if so,that's like, of course, like
beyond horrific.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, I'm really hoping that if they feel that
there was no foul play to me,there shouldn't be any issue
with the body being released tothe family to do their own
independent autopsy, and itshouldn't be any any issue with
the family's lawyers havingaccess to the evidence if that's
the case.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's right, I forgot about that.
Is everyone allowed to get likean independent autopsy?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, once the body is released to the family, I'm
assuming that it's up to familywhat they do with the body and
everything.
But also, you know, it alsodepends on the condition of the
body.
In other words, when they didtheir autopsy they didn't remove
any evidence or, you know, doanything to the body.
That would make that secondautopsy difficult to complete.
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So those are kind of like theunknowns.
But I do understand thatMississippi has not had the
greatest reputation years agowhen it comes to race
relationships.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, and that just seems so.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
People get on there saying that I'm dogging
Mississippi.
This is a known fact.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's not a I mean, this is definitely like I
promise we'll go to a happierthing soon.
But I also think it seemsstrange to me that a young man
would hang himself by the tree.
That does not.
I'm sorry to bring that up topeople, but it seems like there
would be other ways that peoplewould do it, rather than just
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publicly hanging yourself infront of a tree.
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And again you kind of think about it and it's it's
bad when someone takes their ownlife, it's horrific, but it's
like he would go outside by thepickleball court.
Maybe I'm looking too much intoit, but that just doesn't make
sense.
He would go outside by thepickleball court, I know, Maybe
I'm looking too much into it,but that just doesn't make sense
.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It could be just me, I agree.
I don't know the stats on it,but I would argue that young
males, no matter what, don'ttypically do that by publicly
eating out.
People tend to usually do itquietly or privately or whatever
.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, let's definitely pray for that family.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
I hope we do know the truth ofwhat happened and either way, no
matter what happened, it lookedlike a very nice young man was
taken away one way or another.
So, yeah, it's very sad.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Okay, something, something way more not serious,
and it was so funny.
The Emmys happened and I wrotethis down for us to talk about
and now it seems like a millionthings have happened since that.
I did not watch, which is sofunny, like I don't know what's
wrong with me, that I live inlos angeles and I'm like in, you
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know, in this world to acertain extent and I just like
do not care whatsoever.
But um the emmys, there was alot of snubs.
Uh, one of the biggestvictories was um the studio,
seth rogan for lead actor in acomedy series, and I've
definitely heard that peoplelove that so much.
The Penguin followed with ninewins, then Severance and
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Adolescence, with eight winsapiece.
Now, did you watch?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I kind of watched pieces here and there.
To be honest with you, Okay, metoo.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's so funny, I don't even know this.
Yet people were saying like, umthe penguins, severance and the
studio seemed to be like thebig winners.
And um adolescence.
Adolescence is.
Owen cooper made history not asthe not only as the youngest
winner in his category, but alsoas the youngest ever male Emmy
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winner, at age 15.
Which I think that's kind ofcute.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
The one thing that I was really really kind of
surprised about some people aretalking about it Danielle
Spencer, who played Dee onwhat's Happening Now years ago.
She recently passed away andwhen they went through the you
know to the memoriam, you know,going through the actors and
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actresses that aren't with usanymore, she was not in there,
which was kind of shocking.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I kind of think it was a little bit of a slap in
the face personally, but that'sjust me, I don't know.
What do you think?
You think I'm looking into thisa little bit too much, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It's so hard with these because I feel like I'll
have people in shows andeverything that I'm like they're
amazing, they deserve an award,and then they won't even be
mentioned or they'll lose out tosomeone that I don't understand
.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I I feel like so much goes into these like choices
that we don't even know whetherit's just.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You know she passed away, she wasn't oh, oh, okay,
oh oh, that's a good excuse atleast, but, yes, definitely sad.
Did they have like an inmemoriam thing for her?
I don't even know well, theyhave.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You know, they have it every time they have the
Emmys, but noticeably she wasn'tin.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
She wasn't in there I thought you meant she was in
there but didn't get nominated.
Okay, oh man, yeah, I thinkthat's.
That's sad and terrible too,and I don't know.
Sometimes these things thatjust like it confounds me, like
who is mentioned and who's notmentioned, type of things, yeah,
I mean, she was well known, Imean she was a big, big child
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star.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And then, you know, when she became an adult, you
know, she got out of theHollywood light to, you know,
become a veterinarian, which youknow it was good she, you know
the career didn't destroy her.
You know what I mean.
So it was a little bit shockingthat they, uh, that they didn't
mention it, or you know atleast acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know her passing, but that's just me.
Yep, I know me too.
Um, I also like it was so funnywhen I saw who was wearing what
and everything.
I'm just this is not the time.
Like that has to be hard, forit's not only celebrities too.
I have to remember that.
It's like a lot of people doingwhat they love, even if we
don't care.
There's still a lot of likehair and makeup people and the
stylists, and you know there's alot of people that go into
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making this machine.
So, even if it seems a littleout of touch now, I still look
at it from that point of view.
Oh yeah definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Did you like the little bit?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
that you did see.
No, if anything, it just mademe like some of the people that
were saying I might be alone onthis.
But like when I see once again,when I see like actors and
everyone getting like toopolitical, I think they know.
I think they think what they'redoing is because they have like
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a giant mouthpiece and they'remaking change, but really
everyone's like shut up, likeit's just so.
Yeah, I think you're actuallylike hurting the causes that
you're trying to rally for, butI'm very weird.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
So Well, this is an interesting topic.
In fact, I was totally shockedabout this when I saw this
myself.
Did you know that over 70% ofteens use chat box for social
companionship?
No 70% now.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No, what the heck.
That's really weird.
I thought it should be like 7%.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I mean, I knew that you know some do use it, but I
was shocked at that statisticand actually my number is
actually kind of low Becauselooking at my notes here, it
says a recent common sense mediastudy found that 72% of US
teens have used AI companion atleast once and 52% of them use
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it regularly often for emotionalsupport, companionship and
advice, with 39% finding theconversations as satisfying or
more satisfying than with realfriends.
While AI companions offerconsistent availability and
nonjudgmental interaction,experts are concerned that they
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may hinder the development ofreciprocal human relationships
and emotional intelligence,especially for younger teens,
and part of this also said thatthis also not only includes
emotional, but sexual.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What?
How?
I mean, I don't want to knowhow.
I think I know how.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I was stunned at this .
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm really happy that we grew up at a time when we
did, because I don't want to bepart of this narrative
whatsoever.
This is sad and weird and I'mjust like.
I feel like any person overnine years old should like know
better, and it's just very weird.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Well, you know what?
I think it starts stemming fromwhen we had the pandemic, where
everyone was locked in and noone could really be with other
people.
You know what I mean.
I know be with other people.
You know what I mean.
I know Because I remember whenmy son first started going to
high school and we let him geton the bus because prior to that
we would drop him off and pickhim up from school.
And you know, we was at the busstop and, I swear to God, it
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was like over 100 kids there.
I was like I asked my son wherethe hell did all these kids
come from?
Oh, that's so-and-so.
They live around the block.
That's so-and-so.
I said all these kids live inour neighborhood and it's like
kids don't come outside anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's so sad, that is so sad.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I was stunned at how many kids actually live in my
neighborhood.
It was, yeah, but sad at thesame time too.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
And, and I don't know , I think this is kind of
dangerous, because not dangerousin the fact that you know
they're going to hurt themselvesor hurt other people, but when
you lose that ability tocommunicate with human beings, I
think that does something toyou not only emotionally, but
also physically as well too yeah, we're meant to be like little
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tribal creatures with each otherand to connect with people and
like, even if it's, I think it'sbad enough that we're online
talking to our friends and youknow, just like I feel like when
I'm texting people, I don'teven feel like I'm texting like
a robot, but then to not evenhave an actual real person and
just basically messagingyourself is like so weird and
and we know too, we've talkedtoo many times about how wrong
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ai is about everything and justlike how frustrating and
annoying it can be and it'sbasically just like a yes man.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
So, yeah, I feel like that's very sad and weird yeah,
and I think I think what itdoes too, is it?
It hinders a child from beingable to be able to handle real
situations because, yeah, forsomeone, they're going to treat
you way differently than that aiis going to treat you so you
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need to be able to handle peoplethat aren't going to be nice to
you.
Sometimes, maybe most of thetime, people you know kind of
being an a-hole to you.
That's real life.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, one time when my boyfriend was talking to his
AI about making a plan for us orsomething on vacation and I was
like tell it that you and yourgirlfriend so that it knows your
AI better know that you have agirlfriend he was like, okay, my
girlfriend and I are lookingfor a good lunch place.
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I'm like don't go talking toyour AI bot.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
You're good.
As long as it didn't answerback, why do we have to talk
about her?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Exactly.
It's like yeah, why do youmention her?
Speaker 1 (42:52):
But the great about a Merle is that they may be
coming sooner than we think.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, I know, it freaks me out.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I just hope that.
I hope this is a fad and itdoes become a true trend that
keeps going, because if kidslose the ability to start being
able to communicate with eachother, um, it's going to be
rough.
It's going to be rough.
It's going to be rough.
It's growing up.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I think too.
I feel like, not even kids.
I mean like kids, but also aswell, people that are like in
the dating age, you know, like,I'm sure, like college students
and people in their likethirties and forties.
I bet there's a lot of like 38year old men that are like
talking to their AI bots rightnow, who normally would be out
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there going on dates for womenthat are looking for husbands.
We need the balance of peoplewanting to date and talk to each
other.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
The other part about it is what happens when you get
out of this AI world and you tryto talk to a human flesh and
being and try to bring up somekind of conversation or anything
, and you think to yourself thisis different from the AI what?
Am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, I'm very glad to be.
I just even thought the otherday I'm really going to try to
use the chat thing less and lessbecause it's annoying and I
feel like it doesn't make mehappier.
So I feel like I'll I use itfor very like impersonal things.
You know, like help me come upwith this list for something,
but I I would I'm asking it lessand less questions and the more
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we know now about what'shappening.
I also would think everyoneshould be really careful about
what you talk to your ai thingabout, because at any point it
could like expose all of us, andI've heard people can like go
to jail for what you talk toyour AI thing about, because at
any point it could like exposeall of us, and I've heard people
can like put in a jail for whatthey talk about, or you know
what I mean, like.
So, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
And that's actually real.
I personally think that AI is atool.
I don't think it's meant toreplace human beings.
Yeah, I could be in theminority on that, but that's
what I think.
I think it's a tool To.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I could be in the minority on that, but that's
what I think.
I think it's a tool.
To me it's like how Google isor something, or like an
organizing assistant.
It's not like someone I shouldtalk to and just you know, like,
yeah, it's not a companion,well, someone who's not looking
for love on AI, but insteadthey're looking for it on.
The Bachelor is Taylor FrankiePaul, who is the star of the
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show previously Secret Lives ofMormon Wives who went first, got
famous.
You know, she was one of thedancing moms the Mormon moms on
TikTok that a few years ago wentvery, got very famous because
there was this whole big scandalabout how they were like
swinging with each other andthen she ended up getting
divorced because some of thecouples fell in love with each
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other and it just got reallymessy.
And then they made the show ofwho on hulu, which was like a
smash hit, um, and now she'sgoing to be the bachelorette and
so I think this is veryinteresting because she already
has kids and we've already seenher through like a few different
failed relationships.
You know, like there's her babydaddy and then there's a uh, I
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guess there's two baby daddiesat this point.
But like, yeah, it'll be veryinteresting because this is the
first pick.
That's not really likehomegrown.
It's already someone elsecoming in as like a big star,
unless I'm missing someone else.
But, um, I think this is goodto awaken ratings because, like
I think I heard, theBachelorette was kind of going
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downhill and things were gettingstale.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't surprise me that they're
going in this direction,because you know they want to
try and throw some spice outthere to get people to watch it,
Like wow, you know, and there'ssome people that may not be be
familiar with who she is, buthear, but hear that, hey, she
was a Mormon wife star.
Well, let me take a look atthis and see.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, Now will you be tuning in?
Does this make you any moreeager to watch, knowing that
it's the Mormon swinging wife?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I know I probably should say yes, but probably not
.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Really.
At least it will give ussomething to talk about.
Maybe on all of our weeklyrecaps we can do a Bachelor
rewatch.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
That's true.
You know what, if she decidesto do some interesting things,
ratings will go up, exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I hope she takes it seriously.
Just because I don't know thatwas part of it on the show, I
don't know how really, reallytruly, her heart is open for
love.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
That's true.
That's true, but you have togive the producers credit for
trying to spice things up,though, yeah absolutely.
Let me ask you this question Ifyou wanted to do something out
of the box to really spice it upfor the bachelor bachelorette,
what would, what would you do orwho would you have on there?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
um, like, as the main person.
Let's see, maybe like, maybelike a I guess a lot of the pop
girls are taken now like aSelena or a Taylor, but I feel
like I'd have a Dua Lipa orsomeone that's a really
well-known already entertainer,or an Ariana Grande or someone
that's just failed in love.
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I would also shake it up in theway that it wouldn't
necessarily have to end anengagement, because I feel like
that's so fake that we all knownow that it's like the
engagement is staged and itrarely makes it that way.
So fake that we all know nowthat it's like the engagement is
staged and it rarely makes itthat way.
Um, I would just have it end inlike are they compatible for
each other type of thing?
that's true that's true now youknow enough to different like
ages and body types for reallike I don't think we need to
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see, I think, the the back ofthe old bachelor or whatever it
was called senior bachelor orwhatever, like that was in
theory good but they stillpicked like way younger than him
and I think we need differenttypes of like like I really
don't think like a lot of bodysizes are, like you know, shown
and if they would choose, Ithink they just need to get like
a better range of actual normaltype of people oh, I agree, you
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know, look like people that youreally do see every day exactly
because that's not.
Not everyone is into likepageant, looking people Like you
know what I mean Like people,like real looking people.
So yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
And you know, I've always said this in the past,
merrill is that there is no suchthing as an ugly man or ugly
woman, and the reason why I saythat is you could put a male in
front of five women or a femalein front of five men, and every
last one of them is going to seesomething different in that
same person.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Exactly, exactly, yes , and so, yeah, I feel like the
Bachelor gives it's like a veryone note type of beauty in
person, which is still wonderful, and a lot of people are still
they're gorgeous, but like it'snot.
And a lot of people are stillthey're gorgeous but like it's
not.
I think Love is Blind did avery like, does a better job at
that, because they've had likepeople that look way different,
because obviously it's moreabout like connecting and not
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just what they look like oh, Iagree.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I mean, if you're gonna be that shallow of a show,
you know, instead of likeskirting around the edges, just
dip right into it and say, okay,you're going to have this hot,
very, very, very famous pornstar she's the new best.
I mean, if you're going to putit out.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Actually, that would be funny, that would be really
good, it would totally be a 180.
I'm like because right now it'svery like Catholic Middle
America, like we're gettingmarried and we're going to have
a chastity belt on and stuff,and now it's like, okay, here's
someone like we're on cheer.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
I think that that would get a lot of ratings.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, and maybe, like the Taylor, frankie Paul is
going in that direction becauseshe did have a reputation at
first as sort of like a Jezebel.
You know she definitely hadlike a scarlet letter on her at
first.
You know she definitely hadlike a scarlet letter on her at
first because you know she's amom and she's been through a lot
of different stuff.
So this is kind of the firstlike I don't want to say tainted
, because she's not tainted, butjust in the eyes of a lot of
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people I'm sure she is.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
It'd be interesting.
I may peek at it just to see.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
It'll be interesting, though,because Bachelor is on ABC,
right.
I think now a lot of people aretalking about boycotting ABC,
so I feel like the Bachelorpeople are probably like we
can't catch a break.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yes, that is true.
It's going to be interestingbecause it'll affect a lot of
shows and you know, let's faceit, if they start losing
viewership, that affects thebottom line, because advertisers
aren't going to want to pay ifno one's watching Exactly.
So talk about watching.
There's a new fashion trendComing out.
(51:32):
Well, actually, it's alreadyout.
It's the new fashion craze ofdressing naked.
What have you heard of that,meryl?
Speaker 2 (51:41):
I see it with a lot of my friends.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Well, this is, I guess, something that's been
kind of billing for a while, butthere is a lot of celebrities
and some people doing it toowhere they are dressing in very,
very, very revealing clothes,to the point to where only
sensitive stuff are covered youknow oh my gosh and a lot of
(52:10):
stuff they're wearing isincredibly sheer, where you can
see straight through and seetheir body.
Do you think this fashion crazeis kind of taking it over the
top?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
um, yes, like, okay, I I don't want to see it.
If I'm like riding on a publicair, you know, if I'm on an
airplane with something orsomeone.
But like, from an artisticpoint of view, I think it's cool
if people do wear like slinkythings, if it's to the club or
like a very late nightrestaurant, or like you're in
new york or something.
I think that's cool.
(52:40):
And I also do think if someonehas like a body that they just
are, like, are so proud of andwant to flaunt, I do think
there's like it is cool, like Ithink that I'm not gonna lie,
it's not, it's not bad, but, um,I think it can be done in like
a classy, artistic way ratherthan just like a raunchy way so
(53:01):
you think that maybe uh kanye'sum friend when she did her naked
thing?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
do you think that was a little over the top, or?
Speaker 2 (53:10):
it's always like the line of what is just trying to
get attention and like sellingyourself out and what is?
What are you doing?
Because you're so proud of yourbody and because it is like
daring.
So I see both.
I see both of it.
Like if I was just walking downthe street and I saw someone
completely dressed like that, ofcourse, like I'd look and
everyone, everyone else would belooking, but, um, I think that
(53:30):
there's like a time and a placefor it so, in other words, if
they're going to some kind ofevent, that's one thing versus.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
You know, you're getting on the bus and you kind
of see this person sitting therealmost naked yeah, yeah,
exactly.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
I don't want them on a public seat.
I don't want to.
I don't want it to affect me inany way.
I don't want to have to touchor see things that I normally
would don't want to.
But I I did notice that was atrend with the emmys for like
the very little bit that I didsee yes, it was lot of sheer,
but there's a part of me I wouldbe lying if, like, these people
are gorgeous and just like haveaspirational bodies, even if
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they're all on Ozempic orwhatever.
But I still it's cool.
It's like I don't know, there'sa part of me that's still of
course.
It's like we want to see prettythings and the human, like the
animal side of me is like, yeah,of course I want to see this.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Well, I think you're going to see a lot more of it.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, I hope that.
I mean not to say that everyoneshould be able to show whatever
they want sometimes, but thentoo much of a good.
You know, we don't want toomuch of a good thing.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
That's true.
That's true.
You have to leave something tothe imagination.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Exactly, exactly.
But I used to think of I don'tknow why I always think of women
.
It's so funny because I forgetthat men could actually do this
too.
But I feel like back in the day, like when in the Cindy
Crawford days, when people justwore like denim cutoffs and like
a blouse or something like that, that's like the peak.
I thought we could all agreewhere that's like the best point
to be at.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yes, that is true, that is true.
But you know everyone wants totake it to that next level.
I know.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
They already do on TikTok.
But we'll see how this is going.
My last story for today USofficials said they've reached a
deal, or a framework for a deal, with China over TikTok.
You know, a few months ago wewere all scared that it was
going to end.
I definitely cried and then itwas back and now it's back in a
weird way.
I don't know if anyone elsefeels this way, but, like my
(55:29):
algorithm is so weird, itdefinitely does feel like
something is changing, haschanged, because it's not just
the normal algorithm.
Trump posted on social mediathat a deal was reached with a
certain company that youngpeople in our country want to
save.
They will be very happy.
Uh, the relationship betweenchina remains a great one.
A lot of people are saying, ohgod, the people that he has
(55:52):
working on this is like some ofthe people that have implemented
this in china differentcountries where it is more of
like kind of a surveillancestate.
You're not allowed to totallyhave freedom.
So a lot of people are likesaying, get off of TikTok and
you know they're going to seewhat you search, but to me, I
like it that much that they'refree to watch me, watch whatever
(56:12):
you know.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, I definitely.
I mean, one of the interestingthings is the whole idea about
you know, banning tiktok orhaving a us company own it is
the fact of you know privacy andsystem information being shared
with china.
And am I really surprised thatthey have a deal on the table?
(56:35):
No, I'm not, Because thisadministration came in and you
know it got the cancellation gotmoved.
They, you know they got movedseveral times, so it's not
really a big surprise.
To be honest with you, I justhope that people just be smart
about what you put out there andwhat information.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Exactly, exactly, and don't be like on live saying
weird things or whatever youknow like.
I just use that as a way tolike look at different parts of
the world, or vacations or youknow stuff like that yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
I mean social media, if you write, is a great thing.
Um, you start going down thatrabbit path when you start
looking for crazy stuff tofollow and, yeah, the algorithm
whether it's tiktok, facebook,instagram, it doesn't matter it
pays attention to what yousearch for.
Yeah, yep, have you ever beenin a situation where you look
for something and it's not evenon social media, but maybe you
(57:33):
just google something you wantedto find out?
You know, maybe you want to buya refrigerator, you maybe want
to shop for a car and then, allof a sudden, you're on social
media and you start getting like50 000 advertisers all the time
, all the time, and I'm like,wait, I just mentioned this to a
friend I don't even want it'llbe like tampa, florida.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
I'm like I just talked about like someone's aunt
going to tampa, like I don'tneed to go there I don't know
about you, but that's kind ofscary.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
What do you think?
Think?
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Oh, it definitely is.
And just like I think now,especially in the past couple of
weeks, with all these news andall these things, it's like more
opinions than we're eversupposed to take on in our
little brain.
That's why I'm sleep messagingyou videos about toothpaste at
3am.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Though I gotta admit I like the glitter toothpaste
though.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Okay, good, I know the AI, the things calm me down.
I'm like you haven't slept in10 days.
Which room are you choosing?
I don't know why, but that justcalms me down.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
That's true.
Well, it's never boring with AI, though.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Exactly Never boring.
Yep, Well, this was fun.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yes, it was Talk about fun, Merle.
What do you have coming up?
Speaker 2 (58:42):
I'm going to plug a weird show, but a weird but fun
show coming up October 9th.
I'm performing at a mortuary,which is very fitting now that
comedy is dead, but it's calledMissing at the Mortuary and it's
in Pasadena, california.
It's called Missing at theMortuary and it's in Pasadena,
california.
So if anyone lives in that area, it's called the Lamb Family
(59:04):
Mortuary.
I don't know, there's somethings coming out about the Lamb
Family that's on Netflix, abouta true crime kind of murder
mystery thing.
So yeah, that's October 9th andthe show is called Missing at
the Mortuary and then it's inPasadena.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
So is that a real?
Speaker 2 (59:22):
mortuary that you guys want to do?
Yep, I heard there's a casketon stage.
Alrighty, now.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Is it closed or do they still operate as a mortuary
?
Speaker 2 (59:32):
They still operate as a mortuary.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Really.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I know I'll do anywhere.
I'll do comedy anywhere.
Alrighty, now Exactly.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
I'm ready now.
Exactly If I'm in Pasadena Iprobably won't be there, but you
know You'll be there in spirit.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Hopefully, not, hopefully, you won't be there.
In spirit.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Wow, okay, very different.
I can tell you that, yep,absolutely Well.
If anyone's in the area,definitely stop by and support
Meryl.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
We definitely would appreciate it thank you, you're
always so sweet about that welleveryone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
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Thank you for continuing tolisten to our podcast stream
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want us to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Exactly, and I think I want to say too I totally
respect.
I'm sure I hope peoplelistening probably have
different opinions of what we'resaying, and I'm always open to
like nicely and respectfullytalking to people.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
So yeah, I agree, I agree 100.
Well, this has been a lot offun.
I'm lauren selrod.
I'm maryelle climo.
Have a great day everyone.
Welcome to this week's episode of Thirsty Topics
.
I'm Lawrence Elrod and I'mMeryl Clemo hey.
Meryl, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Good, how are you?
We're recording.
Yes, we are recording.
I'm just saying things toconfirm them.
It's like me saying I havebrushed my teeth.
Yes, I have brushed my teeth.
Before I start with my firsttopic, I had to tell you
something funny and I wanteveryone to know this that this
week you were my latest victimof me messaging someone when I'm
(00:45):
sleeping and going on tiktok.
But luckily, my video that Isent you was just weird enough
that I thought because it's not,it's not weird for us to
message each other like newstopics or even something funny.
Like you're my friend, so Iabsolutely will like message you
something newsworthy.
You're silly now and then.
But like I think I sent yousomething about like, what ai
(01:06):
toothpaste would you use andanything.
I just want anyone that'sknowing that if you ever get
anything from me that's likefrom 10 pm on to7 am, just know
that it's me sleeping and I likelately I fall asleep and then
first my phone will usually hitthe head of my boyfriend and I
fall asleep and then, uh, andthen I've been known to just
send different TikToks to people.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It was a very interesting.
I'm like, okay, never thoughtabout that.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You never did tell me what AI toothpaste you would
choose, so I definitely want toknow the answer.
But yeah, I have to stopfalling asleep scrolling TikTok
because I'll repost stuff.
One time I reposted stuff aboutpeople with horrible
relationships with their motherand I have such a good talk a
good thing with my mom.
So, yeah, it's so silly allright now.
(01:56):
Well, thanks for the heads up,though exactly I told my friends
, if I'm messaging you at 3 am,it's not me, it's sleeping me,
uh, okay.
Well, one of the things, one ofthe reasons I couldn't stop
scrolling tiktok, is I'mmessaging you at 3 am.
It's not me, it's sleeping me,okay.
Well, one of the things, one ofthe reasons I couldn't stop
scrolling TikTok, is because thelatest in just insane news that
Jimmy Kimmel's show was yankedoff the air.
So Disney ABC is taking JimmyKimmel's late night talk show
(02:19):
off the air indefinitely, amid alot of public pressure from the
FCC.
Indefinitely amid a lot ofPublic pressure from the FCC.
Kimmel made some Comments in hisMonday night monologue About
Charlie Kirk's Suspected killerand then, you know, to some this
was like a Shocking decision.
But I think those of us havebeen Following along for a while
, we know that Trump is does notlike Kimmel and they've been
(02:41):
going back and forth at eachOther for a while.
But this is definitely One ofthe most like, boldest and
craziest things.
I'm just like.
I mean just taking people offthe air because you don't like
what they say or because youfind what they have to say
offensive, and of course I meanmy first thought is also all the
people that work on his show,that they're affected, with
(03:03):
their families and who don'tdeserve that, you know.
So I do think I think it wasn'tgetting great numbers, like I
also think it really wasn't likeprobably pulling in a lot of
money, but I think to me, likethat it could have gone on for a
long time and to have thistaken off because of like speech
(03:23):
is just really crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I agree with you.
I mean, I literally rewatchedthat episode multiple times and
I didn't see anything that wasso crazy or over the line.
Because you know, it's nosecret, I love watching Jimmy
Kimmel.
He's one of my favorite peopleto watch and I have seen him say
(03:47):
way worse about the press.
I mean way worse and it's likewow, this is what gets you taken
off the air.
And I know I remember watchingcnn and there was a guest on
there that said that, um, hebelieves it has nothing to do
with charlie kirk, but somethingto do with trump getting
(04:10):
revenge, basically oh yeah,definitely I think he, because
he even tweeted out like yournet, or kimmel is next, or
something, after they firedstephen colbert.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And the funny thing is too, it's probably not even
jimmy kimmel that wrote.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It was like a writer, you know, and so I know it goes
past a different amount ofpeople but, imagine if you're
that writer like it's likeoopsie, sorry everyone you know,
yeah, and the crazy thing aboutit, I think this is a dangerous
slippery slope.
You're going down because we'realways going to have Republican
(04:44):
presidents.
We're going to always haveDemocratic presidents.
They switch up every so often.
So you start setting up thisdangerous precedence about well,
I don't like what you saidabout my team, so I'm going to
get you taken off the air.
Well, what's to say or what'sto stop the opposing party from
doing the same thing to you?
I know, and you know how far isthis going to go?
(05:07):
A lot of people don'tunderstand is that?
Whether you like or dislike hismaterial, this is a dangerous
slope for America period.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
to me, Exactly Because, exactly Like I think.
I mean, if you look at like FoxNews anchors and stuff like that
, like a lot of people acrossthe board on both parties have
said stuff that could be deemedas offensive or antagonistic.
And then to me it's just soweird because, like I definitely
identify more and more just aslike very independent, I tend to
(05:38):
lean one way but I definitelyam more independent.
But like that is part of thething that the right has always
like said about the left is thatit's a lot of cancel culture
and like they don't like that.
It's, you know, too woke.
You're gonna cancel for this orcancel for that and this is
like the ultimate kind of likecry baby woke thing.
So, like you know, I can seethat sometimes where it's like I
(05:59):
think there have been siteswhere if you don't post
something, or you do postsomething, you're kind of like
ostracized or whatever, and theright doesn't like that.
And then now it's like, okay,well, you're, you're doing it
times a million.
So, um, I really do feel likeit's both sides sometimes are
like little children and we justneed like a big parent to come
and help us.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
But I agree, I totally agree.
I mean, I guess the thing I'mlooking at is is that you you
know about cancel culture on theone side, but then you're
celebrating Jimmy Kimmel beingtaken off the air.
That's really cancel, exactly.
Either you're for it or againstit.
You can't be both.
You can't be for cancel culturewhen it favors you, but when
(06:40):
it's against you, oh I hate.
Cancel culture when it favorsyou, but when it's against you,
oh I hate.
Cancel culture.
You can't have it both ways.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I know, and something very interesting I was just
talking about this with a friendis that I feel like Hollywood,
almost sometimes to a detriment,is like known for being like
very, very liberal, like in agood way, but then sometimes I
think because of how out oftouch Hollywood people can be
when they say something for acause, all of us just kind of
roll our eyes and it's just like, oh god, it's almost better
(07:07):
sometimes for, like people inhollywood, to not speak up so
much, because the rest of theworld at this point is like shut
up.
But but I think also too, it'slike the hollywood people seem
to be very like liberal, butthen the executives and like the
, the people in charge ofpulling the rug out from
everyone it it's like it isweird.
How not that it is so thepeople that make the big, big,
(07:28):
big decisions seem to be doingpower plays that are really not
human.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I agree, I mean another show that I like
watching.
I like watching the View, andwhat was really eye-popping
today is they said not one thingabout Jimmy Kimmel being
suspended.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I know, they know, because everyone is like cancel
these women cancel these women.
Also.
That's so amazing that you likethe view.
I feel like you should get a nomore.
It's like a man that likes theview.
That's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I like hearing everybody's point of view.
I like hearing everybody'spoint of view, whether you agree
or disagree.
I think everyone should have aplate at the table and sit there
and be able to express how theyfeel about a particular person,
subject or whatever.
Sometimes you're going to agree, sometimes you're going to
disagree, and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, exactly Exactly , and the beautiful thing with
all these things to listen to isthat, like I don't have to
listen to Tucker Carlson or youknow he could do his thing and I
have the power to like choosewhat I'm watching and ingesting
and sometimes I do watch thingsthat I feel like are
oppositional, just because Ireally like to see the different
viewpoints.
And it's good not to live inlike your own echo chamber, so I
(08:39):
really do like tune into that alot of other stuff.
But, um, yeah, I just feel likethis is weird for an executive
to say we're taking it off theair because, like, what he said
is, you know, bad, becausethat's not talking for the
general public or for a lot ofpeople.
Like half the country doesn'tfeel that way at all.
So, like I do, I do really dofeel like maybe the ratings were
(09:00):
bad, but I definitely feel likethis is a personal vendetta
from Trump for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Oh, I agree, and you know it makes you wonder if
there's something bigger goingon, because it was shocking that
not one thing was said on theView today.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very shocking.
I mean, they did the show, buthow about I explain it?
You can kind of feel somethingwas in the air.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, even like SNL or ones that have been making
fun of the president andeverything for a while.
It's scary because you alwaysthink, with these other
countries like this, how does ithappen that you're not allowed
to state your opinion or makefun of the leaders or whatever?
It is slowly happening.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh yeah, I agree and I think I think there's
something bigger going on,because supposedly and I'm going
to say supposedly, because Idon't know, but there's
rumblings about you know there'sa possible deal or a merger
deal going out there thatthey're trying to protect, or
whatever you know.
The problem is, when you runinto situations like this,
there's all kinds of conspiracytheories that get thrown out and
(10:07):
you don't know which is realand which isn't.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, now let me ask you something, cause I'm not
sure exactly how I feel about it, but there's also a part of me
that I for like late nightentertainment shows like Fallon
and Kimmel and Conan and stuff.
To me part of that job, is itthat that I?
I do think sometimes when itgets too political, it like does
take the fun and uniting like.
(10:31):
In my mind those shows aresupposed to unite us and almost
make us laugh and take our mindsoff of like the hard-hitting
politics do you think?
I don't know, it just seemslike it's also to me.
I'm not against Kimmel, but Ifeel like what should have just
been said was it's horrible thatsomeone was shot.
Anyway, moving on to this sloththat we're going to see the zoo
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bringing in or something, Idon't know what place very
politics or whatever now has inour late night, because to me
I'd rather leave it out andleave a lot of it out and just
have it be just more likeuniting and entertainment type
of stuff you know what?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I totally agree with what you're saying, but I guess
the only issue with thatstatement is if you want jimmy
to do that, then tell fox andother hardcore right-wing media
outlets to do the same thing.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I guess, just for me.
I just mean the late night ones.
I don't know who, the CraigFerguson's or I don't even know
who's on at this point, butalmost exactly Not the more like
CNN and Fox ones, but the latenight the Colbert's, all those
ones, exactly, I just almostmean the late night the, the
coal bears, all those ones,stuff.
Yeah, exactly exactly like.
I just almost mean like thelate night variety shows, like
(11:49):
how letterman was and johnnycarson, like I don't know,
because I didn't really watch aton of them.
I don't know how like, liketotally political they got.
I know someone, maybe theirguest did, like george carlin
and people that he had on, butlike the host itself to me, I'm
just like I don't want to hearon both ends of things, just
like it gets like so deep down arabbit hole.
(12:09):
I think that for, like the latenight comedy shows, I think I'd
rather just like it, like itmaybe acknowledge it and try to
bring the world together, butthen, like, try to stick with
more entertainment yeah, I meanyou definitely have a great
point.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I mean, you know one of the things, and I think, for
what you're saying to me, snldoes a great job of this,
because SNL, you know, they makefun of everyone.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It doesn't matter who you are or whatever, but they
do a great job of keeping itbalanced and humorous and not
take it too far, to the extreme,which is very hard to do yes,
because I feel like we're allgoing berserk, because it's like
politics is blending intoeverything, like the fact that
like taylor, swift and kimballand like you can't you can't
(12:56):
like look without somethingbeing polarized, and I think
it's making everyone nutty.
So I feel like we need more andmore things that are just like
uniting us and calming us andjust trying to be like funny.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, I agree.
And I mean, do you think andthis is a great question for you
do you think that this is goingto somehow maybe change or
alter the way comedians you know?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
talk about politics.
Now I'm laughing alreadybecause it's like I'm already
seeing a lot of my comedyfriends fighting, definitely,
like I mean I'm people like,like comedians that are saying
even like free palestine, andlike things like that in their
speeches are already creatinglike already existing divide or
(13:40):
just deepening it, you know, andso absolutely, and I know I
know friends that are friendswith like writers on jimmy
kimmel and that work on thatshow and stuff, so like that my,
you know, I don't know themdirectly, but like the one my
friends are upset for thosepeople.
Um, so yeah, I mean, I think Ithink comedy wise it will make
like stand-up wise, it will makea lot of people just dig in
harder and almost double down.
(14:00):
But then, like, like I alwaysdreamed of, like one of my goals
was, is to like be do a set onlike a late night show, and then
now I'm like, okay, by the timeI'm ready and I'm working my
way towards that, like what ismy late night?
It's just going to be like anai robot that I have to like get
approved by every singlepolitical party, you know.
So to me it's like the ourdreams like don't even exist
(14:22):
anymore, of performing on Ellenand all these things, because
all these things are taintedweirdly.
So, yeah, I think it will doboth.
It will make people double down.
But then people like Fallon, Iimagine, is probably like okay,
I'm just going to stick todancing and singing with Ariana
Grande, kind of things.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, Now I'm curious Do you think that Jimmy Kimmel
will be back?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
No, I don't, Wow, really I don't think he is,
because I think he is so alreadymouthing off at things that I
think he will be back, maybe ona different network or something
I feel like he is going to beoff of, like Disney and ABC.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Wow, really.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
But I don't know.
I also do feel like, ifanything, there's also like a
third sector of people that Ifeel like I'm part of that are
just fed up with like like justhow fragmented we are and maybe
like a new type of moreentertainment for the sake of
like good, uplifting news anduniting people.
If anything.
That's almost one of my newpivot thoughts of just
(15:32):
acknowledging the bad but thenfocusing more on that type of
entertainment.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Interesting.
I kind of wonder what they'regoing to do with that slot then
if they don't bring them backbecause they're in a time-time
spot.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I know it's so funny.
Every day that goes by withthese news stories you always
have to, as a comedian too,think in your mind okay, how am
I going to talk about this?
I think I had like four daysoff and then I was so thankful
that I don't have to do anyshows, like four days off, and
then I was so thankful that Idon't have to do any shows these
four days.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, I kind of wonder if there's going to be
backlash if they permanentlydon't bring Jimmy back, because
he did have a big following andthere was a lot of people that
watch him.
You kind of wonder is theregoing to be backlash to where?
Because right now local knowlocal stations are fighting with
, with uh, with streamingchannels, because streaming is
the big thing.
Now most people are getting ridof cable.
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They're not even watching localchannels anymore, they're
watching streaming now.
So if they don't bring jimmyback, I would not be surprised
if he has a podcast or a show ona streaming channel and it's
probably going to be 10 timesmore popular than he is now
definitely exactly like yeah, ifhim and like colbert team up or
something that would be amazingand you know what, if, if we
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had said that a year ago, we'dprobably like no, that's
probably not but you
Speaker 2 (16:57):
know what that could really happen oh yeah,
absolutely, I definitely thinkso.
I think a lot of stuff now isjust like his buddy, adam
Carolla, was able to build likea whole life out of just his own
independent stuff.
And it's so weird to have, like, I know, the Writers Guild just
put out a statement that theystand with Kimmel and everything
, and it's so weird to have allthese entities like briefing
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with each other, you know,because, like, the Writers Guild
can't really go.
I love it and it's the bestpeople ever, but it's like they
need directors in Hollywood toput their stuff on and so, yeah,
it's just a big cluster.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, Something tells me that this is not going to be
the end of it.
So we'll see.
Do you think they're going togo after more late-night
comedians?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Oh, yeah, I definitely do, I Do.
You think they're going to goafter more late night
communities?
Oh yeah, I definitely do, Idefinitely do.
Yeah, I don't know Exactly who,but I mean that would be Really
weird.
If, like censorship and we'lltalk later on about TikTok, but
like the word on the street too,is that like TikTok is going to
be starting To be like usedmore of a surveillance tool and
everything too.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
But the scary part is that may be true.
That's the scary part.
If it's not already asurveillance tool, we just don't
know it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yes, so it will be interesting, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh, yes.
Well, talking about a very,very unfortunate incident, have
you ever heard of the singer?
His name is David.
Yes, have you ever heard of thesinger?
His name is David.
Yes, he just had a recentincident that happened.
Let's see here no-transcript.
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A body of a teenager that wasmissing was found in the
singer's trunk of his Tesla.
The singer's name is David.
The development came after theLos Angeles County Medical
Examiner Wednesday identifiedthe female body discovered last
week in the trunk of a towedTesla.
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Registered to the singer as a15-year-old Celeste Rivers.
She was a runaway that's beenmissing, I believe, for over a
year.
So right now they're trying tofigure out.
You know what happened to her?
Was it foul play?
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So far the singer has not beenarrested or anything.
They're still doinginvestigations, but this is kind
of weird, I mean.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
my thought exactly because the way that all the
news was, it was like there wasa body found in this person's
car and it wasn't like thisperson is being charged with
anything.
It was, and I was like I don'tunderstand.
Does that mean someone justcrawled in the car and like got
in, or was he framed?
Um, you know, I haven't heardof david in a long time.
Like I think he's been out ofto me at least he's been out of,
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like the news.
But, um, yeah, it seemed verysuspicious and weird and I I
couldn't really understandexactly.
And the fact that they'resaying it's like a Tesla, it's
just I'm like did this person,did the Tesla, like drive itself
into something?
Or like I don't, you don'treally understand, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Yeah, cause it was kind of interesting that they
mentioned the car brand.
Normally they don't do that,they just say Exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Did someone self open it and then get in?
Or like did he, is he underinvestigation?
It open it and then get in, Ishe under investigation?
It's also a weird way to breakthe news that a body was found
in this person's car withoutquickly saying we don't suspect
him or he's talking toauthorities.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What's weird about it is you're right.
They didn't say that theysuspect them or they don't
suspect them.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
They just said it, which is kind of weird in itself
.
Sounds like maybe another hitpiece against Tesla.
It's very sad, very, very weirdand maybe like I don't know,
that's just very weird to have abody in your car and you would
think immediately he'd be likeoh, my car was parked here and I
didn't do this, or like myfriend borrowed my vehicle, or
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like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It just seems very, very weird yeah, there's reports
that I guess on one of hisfingers he has some kind of
tattoo, and it's the same kindof tattoo, on the same finger or
whatever, as the body that wasfound on his trunk.
Really now, whether that's acoincidence or not, I don't know
, but it kind of makes youwonder.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yeah, that really does.
Yeah, that's weird.
And also you would think thatthey wouldn't put that out
unless they had evidence.
I think, if anything, if weknew more about the story, it's
like, oh, someone murdered aperson and then put them in the
singer's car.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know weird time.
The whole thing is really weird, but I think that it didn't get
a whole.
It did get some play on socialmedia, but not as much as
everything else going on,because this is what's going on
this week.
But I don't know, it's justreally weird, really weird.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I have to wonder.
I haven't heard.
Were you familiar with Davidbefore?
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Before I heard the story.
No, I wasn't Okay.
Is he a big?
I'm assuming he's pop, or is he?
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, I think he was a few years ago too, oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Did he put out anything recently?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
No, not that I know of, but I'm also I'm bad at that
kind of stuff.
I only know Alanis Morissette,who I don't think would drive a
Tesla.
Okay, well, we'll keep an eyeon that because I feel like more
will be announced soon.
Another singer you may haveheard of, an independent artist
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called Taylor Swift.
Believe it or not, she'sexactly.
She hardly gets any press, butit's like it's so funny.
Whenever I prepare for ourrecordings and you know talking
to everyone, like every time I'mjust like, okay, let me like
google Taylor Swift if I can'tfind anything now at this time.
This isn't really newsworthy,but I thought it was at least an
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interesting topic to bring upthat.
She just you know, she was atthe last season.
A lot of her Kansas City Chiefslike appearances.
We saw her directly.
We saw her with Blake Lively.
We saw her with the parents andchiefs like appearances.
We saw her directly.
Like we saw her with blakewively.
We saw her with the, with theparents, and you know, like part
of everything was what is shewearing?
The camera zooming in on likeher, every face and every
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expression.
Now, this one, now this season,might be a little bit different
because, um, when they wereplaying the eagles.
She came in through like a bigbarricade, basically, you know.
So, like they, they put up ahuge black barricade, like
almost like a partition, toseparate them, and then they
held it.
And then her and her teamwalked by and people know, knew
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it was her, because it was likefirst it was her security and
her assistant.
And then you see like littleshoes going by and people are
saying, okay, maybe she's doingthis in light of like some of
the recent violence that hasgone on.
Um, and then there's also wordon the street that her like box
may be tinted so that we can'tsee her as much.
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Um, now do you think this islike because she's not getting
enough privacy, or do you feellike she's getting overexposure
or security or like all of it?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I think somebody gave her this dumb idea because
really here's the thing when youknow a celebrity's walking
through, putting up a blackcurtain or whatever, walking
them down out, you still knowwho the person is yeah, yeah,
yeah, and it only brings moreintrigue.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I feel like you know.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Exactly.
It does the opposite, becausenow you're attracting, you're
bringing attention to yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, what about you though?
That like kind of now, like youknow, I feel, like once
unfortunately we know that sadlylike once one shooting happens,
like a lot of people get crazyideas and I'm not kidding, I
would be like if I was her orBillie Eilish, or like that's
one of the reasons I don't wantto be like crazy, crazy famous
or anything, because that seemslike a nightmare to just have a
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security risk, like everywhereyou go.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, you know that's
one of the negative parts aboutsuccess Because, again, you know
, one of the things that somecelebrities say is it's almost
like being a prisoner.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You have the money and the means to do whatever you
want whenever you want, but youreally can't because, again,
you got to have security aroundyou.
You got to be cautious aboutwhere you go, who you have
around.
So you know little things likeyou and I take for granted going
to the store, going to themovies.
You know somebody like a TaylorSwift it's a big production if
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they want to go to the movies.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, and then I saw a lot of comments that are like
she doesn't have to go to everygame or she doesn't have to go
to the games and she just wantsattention.
But it's like like that is herfiance, you know, you do want to
support him.
But I also feel like maybethere would be a way, I don't
know, maybe she could like getto the games earlier.
Like there has to be somecreative ways in which she could
like get to the box before anddoesn't have to pass by everyone
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.
But then I don't know.
It's just weird and I cantotally understand why she may
want like a dimmed box, becausemaybe she also doesn't want to
be shown on TV every othersecond when she's just trying to
watch the game or take awayfrom Travis or the rest of the
football game itself.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Oh yeah, definitely.
And you know what?
She's supporting her fiancé.
That's normal.
That's a normal thing people do, except she happens to be one
of the biggest stars on theplanet, exactly.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, he goes to one of her concerts.
It's probably exhausting forthem to support each other.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Exactly, I think I don't know.
To me, everyone's intriguedwith celebrities and everything,
but sometimes people could beso intrigued that it's like,
okay, do you have a life?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
yeah, I know, I know mine was more.
It's interesting to, like you,know about the barriers itself
and, and that is so sad if, like, it's a security concern, I
think no one, no matter howfamous they are or not, should
have to worry about just likewalking 10 feet into a room and
having something bad happen tothem yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I mean, you know what ?
She's living her best life.
I tip my hat off to her I knowme too.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
She can't see you tip your hat off.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But well, um, been a lot of crazy stuff this week and
this story is actually prettydisturbing, but I felt it was
very important that we coveredit.
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This is a story about a collegestudent that went to school
down in Mississippi.
The body of a Delta StateUniversity student was found
hanging from a tree.
The sad part about this thingis that they're trying to figure
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out whether there was any foulplay.
Law enforcement said there's nofoul play.
The parents and their friendshis friends say that he was a
happy, go lucky guy, had noreason to do anything to himself
.
It doesn't make any sense and,um, you know, I could tell you
as a parent of a child uh, incollege, one of your, your
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biggest fears is your childbeing safe.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Seeing stories like this doesn't make me, or other
parents, feel any better.
The family of a Black studentwho was found hanging from a
tree on a college campus inMississippi has retained the
civil rights attorney, ben Crump, as questions continue to mount
around the death.
On Monday, staff at Delta StateUniversity found the body of
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Demar Travion Trey Reed nearcampus pickleball courts.
Micah Piller, the Delta Statepolice chief, has said Reed
appeared to have died by suicideand that there were no signs of
foul play.
But concerns have grown and thecase has brought up painful
memories of the state's historyof racist violence.
Then it goes on to say whilelocal police and the Mississippi
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Bureau of Investigation lookinto the deathorneys
representing the Reeds familyare conducting their own
investigation and plan to seekan independent autopsy.
This is a very, very troubling,troubling story, and I don't
know what are your thoughts onthis, meryl.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I have lots of thoughts.
My number one thought is Idon't know, I hope the autopsy
is like done honestly and youknow if they did find foul play.
A lot of times very sadly,these things are like covered up
, whether it's by the localpolice or the university itself
or you know, because they don'twant extra publicity in a bad
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way.
Um, so I hope, whatever is thetruth like comes out, and I
think that would give people notpeace but at least like
hopefully.
Like you know, knowing theinformation sometimes helps,
whatever amount it could help onthe other side.
I think a lot of people thathave lost ones to suicide have
like sadly been like they didseem happy and, you know, upbeat
(30:38):
, like it's not always the casethat people are really upset,
like some sometimes, and itcould be a quick thing, like
someone gets broken up with orsomeone looks at their finances
and you know we never reallyknow exactly what's happening.
I don't know if there's drugsor alcohol, but to me, like it
definitely does seem suspiciousand like, of course, my first
thought is this does seem like aracial related thing, but I
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also, like you don't know andyou know that's just where my
mind goes to.
But we don't know, and if so,that's like, of course, like
beyond horrific.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, I'm really hoping that if they feel that
there was no foul play to me,there shouldn't be any issue
with the body being released tothe family to do their own
independent autopsy, and itshouldn't be any any issue with
the family's lawyers havingaccess to the evidence if that's
the case.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's right, I forgot about that.
Is everyone allowed to get likean independent autopsy?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Well, once the body is released to the family, I'm
assuming that it's up to familywhat they do with the body and
everything.
But also, you know, it alsodepends on the condition of the
body.
In other words, when they didtheir autopsy they didn't remove
any evidence or, you know, doanything to the body.
That would make that secondautopsy difficult to complete.
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So those are kind of like theunknowns.
But I do understand thatMississippi has not had the
greatest reputation years agowhen it comes to race
relationships.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, and that just seems so.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
People get on there saying that I'm dogging
Mississippi.
This is a known fact.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
It's not a I mean, this is definitely like I
promise we'll go to a happierthing soon.
But I also think it seemsstrange to me that a young man
would hang himself by the tree.
That does not.
I'm sorry to bring that up topeople, but it seems like there
would be other ways that peoplewould do it, rather than just
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publicly hanging yourself infront of a tree.
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
And again you kind of think about it and it's it's
bad when someone takes their ownlife, it's horrific, but it's
like he would go outside by thepickleball court.
Maybe I'm looking too much intoit, but that just doesn't make
sense.
He would go outside by thepickleball court, I know, Maybe
I'm looking too much into it,but that just doesn't make sense
.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
It could be just me, I agree.
I don't know the stats on it,but I would argue that young
males, no matter what, don'ttypically do that by publicly
eating out.
People tend to usually do itquietly or privately or whatever
.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, let's definitely pray for that family.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
I hope we do know the truth ofwhat happened and either way, no
matter what happened, it lookedlike a very nice young man was
taken away one way or another.
So, yeah, it's very sad.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Okay, something, something way more not serious,
and it was so funny.
The Emmys happened and I wrotethis down for us to talk about
and now it seems like a millionthings have happened since that.
I did not watch, which is sofunny, like I don't know what's
wrong with me, that I live inlos angeles and I'm like in, you
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know, in this world to acertain extent and I just like
do not care whatsoever.
But um the emmys, there was alot of snubs.
Uh, one of the biggestvictories was um the studio,
seth rogan for lead actor in acomedy series, and I've
definitely heard that peoplelove that so much.
The Penguin followed with ninewins, then Severance and
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Adolescence, with eight winsapiece.
Now, did you watch?
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I kind of watched pieces here and there.
To be honest with you, Okay, metoo.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
It's so funny, I don't even know this.
Yet people were saying like, umthe penguins, severance and the
studio seemed to be like thebig winners.
And um adolescence.
Adolescence is.
Owen cooper made history not asthe not only as the youngest
winner in his category, but alsoas the youngest ever male Emmy
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winner, at age 15.
Which I think that's kind ofcute.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
The one thing that I was really really kind of
surprised about some people aretalking about it Danielle
Spencer, who played Dee onwhat's Happening Now years ago.
She recently passed away andwhen they went through the you
know to the memoriam, you know,going through the actors and
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actresses that aren't with usanymore, she was not in there,
which was kind of shocking.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Really yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I kind of think it was a little bit of a slap in
the face personally, but that'sjust me, I don't know.
What do you think?
You think I'm looking into thisa little bit too much, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
It's so hard with these because I feel like I'll
have people in shows andeverything that I'm like they're
amazing, they deserve an award,and then they won't even be
mentioned or they'll lose out tosomeone that I don't understand
.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I I feel like so much goes into these like choices
that we don't even know whetherit's just.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
You know she passed away, she wasn't oh, oh, okay,
oh oh, that's a good excuse atleast, but, yes, definitely sad.
Did they have like an inmemoriam thing for her?
I don't even know well, theyhave.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You know, they have it every time they have the
Emmys, but noticeably she wasn'tin.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
She wasn't in there I thought you meant she was in
there but didn't get nominated.
Okay, oh man, yeah, I thinkthat's.
That's sad and terrible too,and I don't know.
Sometimes these things thatjust like it confounds me, like
who is mentioned and who's notmentioned, type of things, yeah,
I mean, she was well known, Imean she was a big, big child
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star.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
And then, you know, when she became an adult, you
know, she got out of theHollywood light to, you know,
become a veterinarian, which youknow it was good she, you know
the career didn't destroy her.
You know what I mean.
So it was a little bit shockingthat they, uh, that they didn't
mention it, or you know atleast acknowledge.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
You know her passing, but that's just me.
Yep, I know me too.
Um, I also like it was so funnywhen I saw who was wearing what
and everything.
I'm just this is not the time.
Like that has to be hard, forit's not only celebrities too.
I have to remember that.
It's like a lot of people doingwhat they love, even if we
don't care.
There's still a lot of likehair and makeup people and the
stylists, and you know there's alot of people that go into
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making this machine.
So, even if it seems a littleout of touch now, I still look
at it from that point of view.
Oh yeah definitely, definitely.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Did you like the little bit?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
that you did see.
No, if anything, it just mademe like some of the people that
were saying I might be alone onthis.
But like when I see once again,when I see like actors and
everyone getting like toopolitical, I think they know.
I think they think what they'redoing is because they have like
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a giant mouthpiece and they'remaking change, but really
everyone's like shut up, likeit's just so.
Yeah, I think you're actuallylike hurting the causes that
you're trying to rally for, butI'm very weird.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
So Well, this is an interesting topic.
In fact, I was totally shockedabout this when I saw this
myself.
Did you know that over 70% ofteens use chat box for social
companionship?
No 70% now.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
No, what the heck.
That's really weird.
I thought it should be like 7%.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
I mean, I knew that you know some do use it, but I
was shocked at that statisticand actually my number is
actually kind of low Becauselooking at my notes here, it
says a recent common sense mediastudy found that 72% of US
teens have used AI companion atleast once and 52% of them use
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it regularly often for emotionalsupport, companionship and
advice, with 39% finding theconversations as satisfying or
more satisfying than with realfriends.
While AI companions offerconsistent availability and
nonjudgmental interaction,experts are concerned that they
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may hinder the development ofreciprocal human relationships
and emotional intelligence,especially for younger teens,
and part of this also said thatthis also not only includes
emotional, but sexual.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
What?
How?
I mean, I don't want to knowhow.
I think I know how.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
I was stunned at this .
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm really happy that we grew up at a time when we
did, because I don't want to bepart of this narrative
whatsoever.
This is sad and weird and I'mjust like.
I feel like any person overnine years old should like know
better, and it's just very weird.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Well, you know what?
I think it starts stemming fromwhen we had the pandemic, where
everyone was locked in and noone could really be with other
people.
You know what I mean.
I know be with other people.
You know what I mean.
I know Because I remember whenmy son first started going to
high school and we let him geton the bus because prior to that
we would drop him off and pickhim up from school.
And you know, we was at the busstop and, I swear to God, it
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was like over 100 kids there.
I was like I asked my son wherethe hell did all these kids
come from?
Oh, that's so-and-so.
They live around the block.
That's so-and-so.
I said all these kids live inour neighborhood and it's like
kids don't come outside anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
That's so sad, that is so sad.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I was stunned at how many kids actually live in my
neighborhood.
It was, yeah, but sad at thesame time too.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
And, and I don't know , I think this is kind of
dangerous, because not dangerousin the fact that you know
they're going to hurt themselvesor hurt other people, but when
you lose that ability tocommunicate with human beings, I
think that does something toyou not only emotionally, but
also physically as well too yeah, we're meant to be like little
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tribal creatures with each otherand to connect with people and
like, even if it's, I think it'sbad enough that we're online
talking to our friends and youknow, just like I feel like when
I'm texting people, I don'teven feel like I'm texting like
a robot, but then to not evenhave an actual real person and
just basically messagingyourself is like so weird and
and we know too, we've talkedtoo many times about how wrong
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ai is about everything and justlike how frustrating and
annoying it can be and it'sbasically just like a yes man.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
So, yeah, I feel like that's very sad and weird yeah,
and I think I think what itdoes too, is it?
It hinders a child from beingable to be able to handle real
situations because, yeah, forsomeone, they're going to treat
you way differently than that aiis going to treat you so you
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need to be able to handle peoplethat aren't going to be nice to
you.
Sometimes, maybe most of thetime, people you know kind of
being an a-hole to you.
That's real life.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, one time when my boyfriend was talking to his
AI about making a plan for us orsomething on vacation and I was
like tell it that you and yourgirlfriend so that it knows your
AI better know that you have agirlfriend he was like, okay, my
girlfriend and I are lookingfor a good lunch place.
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I'm like don't go talking toyour AI bot.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
You're good.
As long as it didn't answerback, why do we have to talk
about her?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Exactly.
It's like yeah, why do youmention her?
Speaker 1 (42:52):
But the great about a Merle is that they may be
coming sooner than we think.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, I know, it freaks me out.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I just hope that.
I hope this is a fad and itdoes become a true trend that
keeps going, because if kidslose the ability to start being
able to communicate with eachother, um, it's going to be
rough.
It's going to be rough.
It's going to be rough.
It's growing up.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
I think too.
I feel like, not even kids.
I mean like kids, but also aswell, people that are like in
the dating age, you know, like,I'm sure, like college students
and people in their likethirties and forties.
I bet there's a lot of like 38year old men that are like
talking to their AI bots rightnow, who normally would be out
(43:39):
there going on dates for womenthat are looking for husbands.
We need the balance of peoplewanting to date and talk to each
other.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
The other part about it is what happens when you get
out of this AI world and you tryto talk to a human flesh and
being and try to bring up somekind of conversation or anything
, and you think to yourself thisis different from the AI what?
Am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, I'm very glad to be.
I just even thought the otherday I'm really going to try to
use the chat thing less and lessbecause it's annoying and I
feel like it doesn't make mehappier.
So I feel like I'll I use itfor very like impersonal things.
You know, like help me come upwith this list for something,
but I I would I'm asking it lessand less questions and the more
(44:31):
we know now about what'shappening.
I also would think everyoneshould be really careful about
what you talk to your ai thingabout, because at any point it
could like expose all of us, andI've heard people can like go
to jail for what you talk toyour AI thing about, because at
any point it could like exposeall of us, and I've heard people
can like put in a jail for whatthey talk about, or you know
what I mean, like.
So, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
And that's actually real.
I personally think that AI is atool.
I don't think it's meant toreplace human beings.
Yeah, I could be in theminority on that, but that's
what I think.
I think it's a tool To.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I could be in the minority on that, but that's
what I think.
I think it's a tool.
To me it's like how Google isor something, or like an
organizing assistant.
It's not like someone I shouldtalk to and just you know, like,
yeah, it's not a companion,well, someone who's not looking
for love on AI, but insteadthey're looking for it on.
The Bachelor is Taylor FrankiePaul, who is the star of the
(45:20):
show previously Secret Lives ofMormon Wives who went first, got
famous.
You know, she was one of thedancing moms the Mormon moms on
TikTok that a few years ago wentvery, got very famous because
there was this whole big scandalabout how they were like
swinging with each other andthen she ended up getting
divorced because some of thecouples fell in love with each
(45:41):
other and it just got reallymessy.
And then they made the show ofwho on hulu, which was like a
smash hit, um, and now she'sgoing to be the bachelorette and
so I think this is veryinteresting because she already
has kids and we've already seenher through like a few different
failed relationships.
You know, like there's her babydaddy and then there's a uh, I
(46:02):
guess there's two baby daddiesat this point.
But like, yeah, it'll be veryinteresting because this is the
first pick.
That's not really likehomegrown.
It's already someone elsecoming in as like a big star,
unless I'm missing someone else.
But, um, I think this is goodto awaken ratings because, like
I think I heard, theBachelorette was kind of going
(46:23):
downhill and things were gettingstale.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't surprise me that they're
going in this direction,because you know they want to
try and throw some spice outthere to get people to watch it,
Like wow, you know, and there'ssome people that may not be be
familiar with who she is, buthear, but hear that, hey, she
was a Mormon wife star.
Well, let me take a look atthis and see.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, Now will you be tuning in?
Does this make you any moreeager to watch, knowing that
it's the Mormon swinging wife?
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I know I probably should say yes, but probably not
.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Really.
At least it will give ussomething to talk about.
Maybe on all of our weeklyrecaps we can do a Bachelor
rewatch.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
That's true.
You know what, if she decidesto do some interesting things,
ratings will go up, exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I hope she takes it seriously.
Just because I don't know thatwas part of it on the show, I
don't know how really, reallytruly, her heart is open for
love.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
That's true.
That's true, but you have togive the producers credit for
trying to spice things up,though, yeah absolutely.
Let me ask you this question Ifyou wanted to do something out
of the box to really spice it upfor the bachelor bachelorette,
what would, what would you do orwho would you have on there?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
um, like, as the main person.
Let's see, maybe like, maybelike a I guess a lot of the pop
girls are taken now like aSelena or a Taylor, but I feel
like I'd have a Dua Lipa orsomeone that's a really
well-known already entertainer,or an Ariana Grande or someone
that's just failed in love.
(48:09):
I would also shake it up in theway that it wouldn't
necessarily have to end anengagement, because I feel like
that's so fake that we all knownow that it's like the
engagement is staged and itrarely makes it that way.
So fake that we all know nowthat it's like the engagement is
staged and it rarely makes itthat way.
Um, I would just have it end inlike are they compatible for
each other type of thing?
that's true that's true now youknow enough to different like
ages and body types for reallike I don't think we need to
(48:32):
see, I think, the the back ofthe old bachelor or whatever it
was called senior bachelor orwhatever, like that was in
theory good but they stillpicked like way younger than him
and I think we need differenttypes of like like I really
don't think like a lot of bodysizes are, like you know, shown
and if they would choose, Ithink they just need to get like
a better range of actual normaltype of people oh, I agree, you
(48:56):
know, look like people that youreally do see every day exactly
because that's not.
Not everyone is into likepageant, looking people Like you
know what I mean Like people,like real looking people.
So yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
And you know, I've always said this in the past,
merrill is that there is no suchthing as an ugly man or ugly
woman, and the reason why I saythat is you could put a male in
front of five women or a femalein front of five men, and every
last one of them is going to seesomething different in that
same person.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Exactly, exactly, yes , and so, yeah, I feel like the
Bachelor gives it's like a veryone note type of beauty in
person, which is still wonderful, and a lot of people are still
they're gorgeous, but like it'snot.
And a lot of people are stillthey're gorgeous but like it's
not.
I think Love is Blind did avery like, does a better job at
that, because they've had likepeople that look way different,
because obviously it's moreabout like connecting and not
(49:48):
just what they look like oh, Iagree.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
I mean, if you're gonna be that shallow of a show,
you know, instead of likeskirting around the edges, just
dip right into it and say, okay,you're going to have this hot,
very, very, very famous pornstar she's the new best.
I mean, if you're going to putit out.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
Actually, that would be funny, that would be really
good, it would totally be a 180.
I'm like because right now it'svery like Catholic Middle
America, like we're gettingmarried and we're going to have
a chastity belt on and stuff,and now it's like, okay, here's
someone like we're on cheer.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
I think that that would get a lot of ratings.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, and maybe, like the Taylor, frankie Paul is
going in that direction becauseshe did have a reputation at
first as sort of like a Jezebel.
You know she definitely hadlike a scarlet letter on her at
first.
You know she definitely hadlike a scarlet letter on her at
first because you know she's amom and she's been through a lot
of different stuff.
So this is kind of the firstlike I don't want to say tainted
, because she's not tainted, butjust in the eyes of a lot of
(50:49):
people I'm sure she is.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
It'd be interesting.
I may peek at it just to see.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, absolutely.
It'll be interesting, though,because Bachelor is on ABC,
right.
I think now a lot of people aretalking about boycotting ABC,
so I feel like the Bachelorpeople are probably like we
can't catch a break.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yes, that is true.
It's going to be interestingbecause it'll affect a lot of
shows and you know, let's faceit, if they start losing
viewership, that affects thebottom line, because advertisers
aren't going to want to pay ifno one's watching Exactly.
So talk about watching.
There's a new fashion trendComing out.
(51:32):
Well, actually, it's alreadyout.
It's the new fashion craze ofdressing naked.
What have you heard of that,meryl?
Speaker 2 (51:41):
I see it with a lot of my friends.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Well, this is, I guess, something that's been
kind of billing for a while, butthere is a lot of celebrities
and some people doing it toowhere they are dressing in very,
very, very revealing clothes,to the point to where only
sensitive stuff are covered youknow oh my gosh and a lot of
(52:10):
stuff they're wearing isincredibly sheer, where you can
see straight through and seetheir body.
Do you think this fashion crazeis kind of taking it over the
top?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
um, yes, like, okay, I I don't want to see it.
If I'm like riding on a publicair, you know, if I'm on an
airplane with something orsomeone.
But like, from an artisticpoint of view, I think it's cool
if people do wear like slinkythings, if it's to the club or
like a very late nightrestaurant, or like you're in
new york or something.
I think that's cool.
(52:40):
And I also do think if someonehas like a body that they just
are, like, are so proud of andwant to flaunt, I do think
there's like it is cool, like Ithink that I'm not gonna lie,
it's not, it's not bad, but, um,I think it can be done in like
a classy, artistic way ratherthan just like a raunchy way so
(53:01):
you think that maybe uh kanye'sum friend when she did her naked
thing?
Speaker 1 (53:07):
do you think that was a little over the top, or?
Speaker 2 (53:10):
it's always like the line of what is just trying to
get attention and like sellingyourself out and what is?
What are you doing?
Because you're so proud of yourbody and because it is like
daring.
So I see both.
I see both of it.
Like if I was just walking downthe street and I saw someone
completely dressed like that, ofcourse, like I'd look and
everyone, everyone else would belooking, but, um, I think that
(53:30):
there's like a time and a placefor it so, in other words, if
they're going to some kind ofevent, that's one thing versus.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
You know, you're getting on the bus and you kind
of see this person sitting therealmost naked yeah, yeah,
exactly.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
I don't want them on a public seat.
I don't want to.
I don't want it to affect me inany way.
I don't want to have to touchor see things that I normally
would don't want to.
But I I did notice that was atrend with the emmys for like
the very little bit that I didsee yes, it was lot of sheer,
but there's a part of me I wouldbe lying if, like, these people
are gorgeous and just like haveaspirational bodies, even if
(54:07):
they're all on Ozempic orwhatever.
But I still it's cool.
It's like I don't know, there'sa part of me that's still of
course.
It's like we want to see prettythings and the human, like the
animal side of me is like, yeah,of course I want to see this.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Well, I think you're going to see a lot more of it.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Yeah, I hope that.
I mean not to say that everyoneshould be able to show whatever
they want sometimes, but thentoo much of a good.
You know, we don't want toomuch of a good thing.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
That's true.
That's true.
You have to leave something tothe imagination.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Exactly, exactly.
But I used to think of I don'tknow why I always think of women
.
It's so funny because I forgetthat men could actually do this
too.
But I feel like back in the day, like when in the Cindy
Crawford days, when people justwore like denim cutoffs and like
a blouse or something like that, that's like the peak.
I thought we could all agreewhere that's like the best point
to be at.
Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yes, that is true, that is true.
But you know everyone wants totake it to that next level.
I know.
Speaker 2 (55:07):
They already do on TikTok.
But we'll see how this is going.
My last story for today USofficials said they've reached a
deal, or a framework for a deal, with China over TikTok.
You know, a few months ago wewere all scared that it was
going to end.
I definitely cried and then itwas back and now it's back in a
weird way.
I don't know if anyone elsefeels this way, but, like my
(55:29):
algorithm is so weird, itdefinitely does feel like
something is changing, haschanged, because it's not just
the normal algorithm.
Trump posted on social mediathat a deal was reached with a
certain company that youngpeople in our country want to
save.
They will be very happy.
Uh, the relationship betweenchina remains a great one.
A lot of people are saying, ohgod, the people that he has
(55:52):
working on this is like some ofthe people that have implemented
this in china differentcountries where it is more of
like kind of a surveillancestate.
You're not allowed to totallyhave freedom.
So a lot of people are likesaying, get off of TikTok and
you know they're going to seewhat you search, but to me, I
like it that much that they'refree to watch me, watch whatever
(56:12):
you know.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, I definitely.
I mean, one of the interestingthings is the whole idea about
you know, banning tiktok orhaving a us company own it is
the fact of you know privacy andsystem information being shared
with china.
And am I really surprised thatthey have a deal on the table?
(56:35):
No, I'm not, Because thisadministration came in and you
know it got the cancellation gotmoved.
They, you know they got movedseveral times, so it's not
really a big surprise.
To be honest with you, I justhope that people just be smart
about what you put out there andwhat information.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Exactly, exactly, and don't be like on live saying
weird things or whatever youknow like.
I just use that as a way tolike look at different parts of
the world, or vacations or youknow stuff like that yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
I mean social media, if you write, is a great thing.
Um, you start going down thatrabbit path when you start
looking for crazy stuff tofollow and, yeah, the algorithm
whether it's tiktok, facebook,instagram, it doesn't matter it
pays attention to what yousearch for.
Yeah, yep, have you ever beenin a situation where you look
for something and it's not evenon social media, but maybe you
(57:33):
just google something you wantedto find out?
You know, maybe you want to buya refrigerator, you maybe want
to shop for a car and then, allof a sudden, you're on social
media and you start getting like50 000 advertisers all the time
, all the time, and I'm like,wait, I just mentioned this to a
friend I don't even want it'llbe like tampa, florida.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
I'm like I just talked about like someone's aunt
going to tampa, like I don'tneed to go there I don't know
about you, but that's kind ofscary.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
What do you think?
Think?
Speaker 2 (57:57):
Oh, it definitely is.
And just like I think now,especially in the past couple of
weeks, with all these news andall these things, it's like more
opinions than we're eversupposed to take on in our
little brain.
That's why I'm sleep messagingyou videos about toothpaste at
3am.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Though I gotta admit I like the glitter toothpaste
though.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Okay, good, I know the AI, the things calm me down.
I'm like you haven't slept in10 days.
Which room are you choosing?
I don't know why, but that justcalms me down.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
That's true.
Well, it's never boring with AI, though.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Exactly Never boring.
Yep, Well, this was fun.
Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yes, it was Talk about fun, Merle.
What do you have coming up?
Speaker 2 (58:42):
I'm going to plug a weird show, but a weird but fun
show coming up October 9th.
I'm performing at a mortuary,which is very fitting now that
comedy is dead, but it's calledMissing at the Mortuary and it's
in Pasadena, california.
It's called Missing at theMortuary and it's in Pasadena,
california.
So if anyone lives in that area, it's called the Lamb Family
(59:04):
Mortuary.
I don't know, there's somethings coming out about the Lamb
Family that's on Netflix, abouta true crime kind of murder
mystery thing.
So yeah, that's October 9th andthe show is called Missing at
the Mortuary and then it's inPasadena.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
So is that a real?
Speaker 2 (59:22):
mortuary that you guys want to do?
Yep, I heard there's a casketon stage.
Alrighty, now.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Is it closed or do they still operate as a mortuary
?
Speaker 2 (59:32):
They still operate as a mortuary.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Really.
Speaker 2 (59:35):
I know I'll do anywhere.
I'll do comedy anywhere.
Alrighty, now Exactly.
Speaker 1 (59:40):
I'm ready now.
Exactly If I'm in Pasadena Iprobably won't be there, but you
know You'll be there in spirit.
Speaker 2 (59:47):
Hopefully, not, hopefully, you won't be there.
In spirit.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Wow, okay, very different.
I can tell you that, yep,absolutely Well.
If anyone's in the area,definitely stop by and support
Meryl.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
We definitely would appreciate it thank you, you're
always so sweet about that welleveryone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Thank you for watching and supporting us.
Thank you for continuing tolisten to our podcast stream
LRodTVnetworkcom.
Please feel free to reach outto us on all of our social media
outlets for any comments aboutwhat we said, what we talked
about, and maybe even ideasabout shows or topics that you
(01:00:25):
want us to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Exactly, and I think I want to say too I totally
respect.
I'm sure I hope peoplelistening probably have
different opinions of what we'resaying, and I'm always open to
like nicely and respectfullytalking to people.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
So yeah, I agree, I agree 100.
Well, this has been a lot offun.
I'm lauren selrod.
I'm maryelle climo.
Have a great day everyone.
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