Jimmy Kimmel's Return and Disney's Dilemma for 9/23/25

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The battle over free speech in entertainment takes center stage as Jimmy Kimmel's "indefinite suspension" from ABC comes to a surprising end. Breaking news during our recording reveals Kimmel will return to his show after just days off air – a stunning reversal that follows Disney's estimated $4.4 billion stock drop and widespread subscription cancellations across their platforms.

We dive into the complex dynamics at play, from The View's delayed response to the controversy to Republican senators Ted Cruz and Rand Paul speaking out against FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr's threatening language. This rare breaking of partisan ranks highlights growing concerns about government overreach in media regulation, with Cruz comparing Carr's statements to threats "right out of Goodfellas."

The conversation shifts to a tragic accident at Universal Studios, where a 32-year-old disabled man died on the opening day of the Stardust Racer roller coaster. This prompts a deeper discussion about thrill ride safety and whether the pursuit of increasingly extreme experiences has gone too far. Meanwhile, Tom Holland's hospitalization after a Spider-Man stunt accident raises questions about actors performing their own dangerous scenes.

Travis Kelce's oddly specific $14,491 fine for an "obscene gesture" during a Chiefs game leads to examination of sportsmanship standards and whether such penalties effectively deter behavior. We also explore Justin Baldoni's legal strategy in his ongoing dispute with Blake Lively, having hired Alexandra Shapiro – previously part of Sean "Diddy" Combs' defense team.

On a heartwarming note, we celebrate 66-year-old retired accountant Kent Brossard, who proves it's never too late to follow your dreams by joining LSU's marching band after retirement. His story reminds us that amid cultural battles and corporate power plays, the pursuit of personal passion remains a worthy endeavor at any age.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, Welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I'm Meryl Clemo.
How's it going, Meryl?
It's so good.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I am doing great, you know, other than technical
glitches here and there.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I would expect nothing less from us, from you,
I mean from me.
You're really good about it,but from me how?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
was your weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was very good.
I went down to San Diego anddid a show with some friends.
It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I went down to San Diego and did a show with some
friends.
It was amazing.
How about you?
Well, you know what my Bearsgot their first win, so I'm very
happy.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yay, oh, you know what I did do, which will, I'm
sure, lead us into the firsttalk but, like a bad girl, I
went to Disneyland, even thougheveryone's canceling it.
But we'll talk about it.
I've canceled myself already,so I'm cancel-proof.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm curious, was there still a lot of people
there?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yes, it's so funny.
When I did my comedy thing, Iwas telling a joke about how I'm
like I thought all the peopleon the left weren't going and
everyone on the right is at homeon Reddit.
So, like, what's everyone therefor?
I don't understand.
I guess they're waiting to seewhat happens, right, exactly,
and I think too, in our minds,disneyland tickets seem a little

(01:30):
bit different to me thanstreaming Disney.
You know what I mean.
If we're going to cancel Disneyand everything, then there's so
many trickle-down things thathave to go into that, so I don't
know.
It gets a little ridiculous ofgetting mad at people for going
to Disney.
I've already had this tripplanned forever.
This is where I mean it gets alittle silly when we start

(01:50):
getting mad at each other forstuff like this.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's true.
That's true.
Talk about mad.
I don't know what side of thefence you're on.
The View has finally spokeabout the Jimmy Kimmel
suspension.
They started talking about ittoday.
This morning, In fact, it wasthe first thing they talked
about and what they stated wasthat they were waiting for a

(02:16):
response from Jimmy Kimmelbefore they said anything.
And they did acknowledge that alot of their fans got really
upset that they didn't mentionanything about it.
So I guess the real question isdo you kind of believe what
they said, that they werewaiting to get information from
Jimmy, or they were pressurednot to say anything but had to

(02:38):
retract that pressure, thatdecision, because of their fan
base?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Honestly, I probably believe it was all of it is true
to some degree.
Like I bet I bet the next daymaybe they got some pressure
from executives saying, likethis is not the time to go off
and double down and if you dothat today or tomorrow you're
going to get like taken off theair and maybe just like I saw
the other shows like how colbertand felon and um, all these are

(03:04):
, uh, seth Meyers like I thoughtthey all did it in such a funny
way too that it seemed likeeveryone was just taking a day
or two to like say, okay, wedon't agree with this, but we're
not going to go in so hardquite yet.
So I think it was probably amix of like I bet people told
them it wasn't a good idea to goin like really, really, really
hard at first and then alsomaybe they were getting some

(03:24):
details and talking about howthey wanted to discuss it
internally do you think that theview should have said something
last week when it first broke,or do you think they did the
right thing by waiting tilltoday?
um, I think they should have atleast said something, even if
it's like we're still gatheringour thoughts but you know,

(03:46):
jimmy's our and we don't agreewith this.
I think I don't know.
I'm surprised like Whoopididn't say something, because I
don't know the other people onit, but I mean the article.
I can see their names, but likeI'm surprised they didn't at
least say something to addressit.
But yeah't, I don't know, Ithink it's always I.

(04:06):
I also don't know if, if a lotof people like tune into the
view for like, oh okay, this ismy news source, like I know you
watch it for fun and everything,but I've never heard someone
say, like the view said this andthat really, like changed my
mind on this opinion.
Yeah I.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
I guess you know the way I look at it is.
You know everyone is definitelyopen to whether or not they
want to listen to someone orbelieve them or whatever.
But I guess, from my standpoint, I think the reason why so many
people were concerned or evengot mad about them not
approaching it is the view talksabout anything and everything
yeah, yeah, yeah everything.

(04:42):
So it was very, very, veryawkward that all this thing
happened up around them and theysaid not one thing about it, so
that's kind of weird to me itwas yeah, especially when
everyone else, like evenletterman and people that
weren't on the air, are sayingsomething.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
so I bet executives were probably like, if you
mention it at all, you're goingto get fired today, which is
really, like you, you know, notgood, but I always think about
that too, because I've heardthat too.
I've heard one of the thingswas that they told Jimmy Kimmel
to like stop going so hard on it, and he was like, not only will
I not do that, but I'm going todouble down and like go even
further.
And it's hard to know likewhich one you would be, because

(05:27):
I don't want to say I'd sell out, but if, like, if I had a job
that was helping people like youknow, say, save with their
families, and if I was likesupporting my own family in a
million things like, I could seea scenario where I kind of am
like, oh okay, that's boring,but I like will keep my opinions
to myself.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
so maybe I'm like more of a sellout than other
people, but, um, I don't knowyou know, the sad part about
this is that, even though jimmyis the person that we're talking
about, you know he has a wholestaff, that right now working.
Now, jimmy, regardless of whathappens, jimmy's gonna be fine

(06:00):
financially, you know exactly.
He may take a little bit of hitum entertainment wise based on
what happened, but he's going tobe fine.
But that may not be the casefor the people on the staff
exactly, and I guess too.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I guess maybe because I haven't found yet like once
there's a cause where it's likeno, I have so much conviction
about this whole thing that likeif I was on, I, just if I was
on air, I just like wouldn'teven want to mention trump or
bad things at all.
It would just be like I don'twant to spend my time on it or
energy on it, like I'd rathertalk about other stuff.
But but I think that is cool,that jimmy and other people have

(06:35):
such like strong convictionsthat no matter what, even
knowing that they might get letgo from like a huge career, that
they're still sticking to itthat's true.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Now, I believe wasn't steven steven cobert the first
one who had his show canceledand is running yeah contract.
Now I know what's interestingabout that is why do you think
the outrage is so much moreprevalent with jimmy kimmel?
Versus, versus.
Because it's noticeablydifferent.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Exactly, I think, a few reasons.
I think number one, like Trumpliterally said, like Kimmel's
next, you know.
So I think stuff like that thetwo of them have just been so
outwardly like going after eachother for years that I think we
all knew that Trump kind of hadit out for Kimmel.
The second thing is maybe Ithink for years they were like
reporting that Colbert's ratingswere pretty low, but maybe we
didn't know the extent of likehow low the Kimmel ratings were

(07:31):
or anything.
You know, to us in our mindsthat's one of like the couple
big, big ones.
So it's like, oh okay, thoseones are just like sailing along
fine, and we didn't know reallylike what the if it's losing
money, if it's making money.
We didn't know really like whatthe if it's losing money, if
it's making money.
And yeah, I think maybe alsoKimmel's just more like

(07:51):
outwardly he's hosted the Oscarsand hosted stuff before.
So I think in our minds he'sjust like Mr Hollywood.
So now that Ryan Reynoldscanceled, now Jimmy Kimmel's
next up.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Well, I can tell you, there's you, there's more to
this story coming.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Oh my gosh, there definitely is.
But yeah, I think my wrap up isI'm surprised if you ladies
didn't say anything.
I feel like when I think ofWhoopi Goldberg, I do think of a
very brave, awesome person thatspeaks her mind.
So I think I don't know.
It just seems kind of weird.
But I also think these types ofthings come up every week where

(08:28):
it's like okay, if you don'tspeak on this, you're not a good
person or you're not right, andso next, month there really
will be, I think, another causedu jour that everyone needs to
talk about.
That's true, that's true.
We've had like five of thesethings this past year where it's
like if you don't talk aboutthis right away, you're part of
the problem.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, that's true, and you know, sometimes people
need to understand too.
The way entertainers are paidare much different than everyone
else.
They're literally undercontract, which means they can
lose their contract, possibly besued, uh, for breach of
contract.
So it's kind of a a very, verytight line to walk yeah you're
under that type of employment ahundred percent.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
There's no one.
Because I I was on like sandiego radio and I'm like there
is no way I would have made itthrough the pandemic and through
everything on air.
I would have gotten fired likea million percent just for even
if I had like stupid opinions orno opinions, just like, and
there was times that they wouldcall me into the office and be
like we can't really talk aboutthis.
Or you know, one woman got madbecause I was talking about that

(09:36):
JLo skin looked moist duringthe Superbowl and she hated that
.
I said the word moist.
So even just stuff like thatwhere I'm like okay, this was a
very nice paying job.
Do I want to just like fightthis?
Or do I want to continue to saythe word moist that much so
like I just cut it out of myvocabulary because I wanted like
a nice salary.
So you know not that obviouslythis is way more important.

(09:57):
This is like big freedom ofspeech things.
But I don't know if I was.
I admire Jimmyimmy kimmel forat least like having such big
convictions that it's like nofor everyone.
I'm gonna stand up to this Iagree I agree, but I'm not that
strong, I have weak characteryou're very strong character

(10:18):
thank you, that's so sweet.
Thank you, even though I went todisneyland, but it's okay, well
.
Well, speaking of character, wewon't be seeing ones like
Aladdin and Mickey Mouse becausea lot of people are canceling
their Disney and canceling theirHulu.
To be honest, I wouldn't evenknow how to cancel ABC if I
tried, because I don't even knowif we get ABC or not.
It's a good thing that I don'tknow how to work a lot of our TV

(10:42):
that I like don't even know ifwe're canceled or not with these
things.
But Disney has been dealingwith the fallout for days and
things are not getting anybetter.
As of yesterday, disney stockhas dropped more than 2% an
estimated $4.4 billion sincedismissing Jimmy Kimmel.

(11:06):
Um, now I'm seeing today a lotof marvel stars like mark
ruffalo, and people are warningdisney that the stock would drop
even more if disney did nottake action and bring the show
back.
Um, from what I've heard, it'sso funny.
People are saying on tiktokthat when you like, go to cancel
hulu or whatever it's like, no,please, we'll keep you for 2.99
a month, or it's almostbecoming desperate.
Where they'll, they'll loweryour stuff so much, so that
might be a hack for people, evenif you don't want to cancel

(11:28):
your account, just pretend likeyou're going to and then they'll
lower your price, and I thoughtthis was so funny.
There was also one influencerthat took to social media and
shared the screenshot of himcanceling Disney Plus, but then
by accident he kept it in thathe had just signed up like that
day.
So he pretty much like signedup to then undo it, and so

(11:50):
everyone were like that'sperformative, good try, but we
could see that you just signedup like two hours ago.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Gotta get those views some kind of way, huh.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, so okay, this is where and I love, I would
love your opinion and I'm sure Ifeel alone, but sometimes I
understand that we have to showthis is how we show our like
movement within our dollar.
You know we vote with ourdollar, type of thing.
I totally get that and I getthat like that's how we would
show them is we hit them in thepockets and you know all that
stuff.
What I don't like is whensometimes now it turns to like

(12:23):
inside fighting, where I'mseeing people on Facebook
fighting with each other for notcanceling Disney or like you're
not showing it on your socialmedia, and I think this is where
we like lose the plot a littlebit with just getting mad at
each other as people you know.
So I don't know, have youcanceled your stuff and like,
how do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh, I don't have to worry about canceling Disney
Plus and all that, because Idon't know, have you canceled
your stuff?
How do you feel about that?
I don't have to worry aboutcanceling Disney Plus and all
that, because I don't have thatanyway.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
You're part of the solution way before You've been
doing the good thing.
I feel bad for the people.
I work a lot on having my ownmovies and TV and stuff and I
know how hard you work, even atthe beginning stages, when it's
not even on there.
I feel so bad for the peoplethat have shows on Hulu and
Disney that have nothing to dowith this and it's like you

(13:11):
accomplish your dream of gettingsomething on the air which is
already like a close toimpossible feat and then, due to
something that's not even younow people are like boycotting
it.
It just I wish there was otherways that we could still support
these people that have nothingto do with it and not pay the
corporations.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's true.
What's interesting about thisboycott is the boycott is
probably I don't know maybe 10,100 times or even 1,000 times
more than the budget of his show.
When you start getting into the.
B word, 100 times or even 1,000times more than the budget of
his show.
Yeah, when you start gettinginto the B word, the billions,
yeah, you know they may not sayit out loud, but at some point

(13:52):
someone's going to sit down andgo.
Is this really worth this?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I know, but then it's going to look so weird it's
going to be awkward.
Like we said, if they do bringhim back, then is he gonna be?
He's gonna go triple hard ontrump and then it's just gonna
be weird.
So like I don't know, in mymind the disney people probably
have so much like ego andwhatever that they're just gonna
be like.
Nope, we came with thisdecision.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
We're going to stick with it that's true, but you
know at some, at some pointthey're gonna have to address it
because you know they probablydid not anticipate the backlash
that they're getting from theirsupport.
You know it's one thing to becriticized for it and media and
all this.
It's another thing when it hitsthe pocketbooks because that's
how you get a business'sattention it's hit them in the

(14:38):
pockets.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
They do pay exactly, and it's it's amazing that it we
really could move.
This is I can't think ofanything else like huge that
we've had in the like.
I know there's been littledrips and drabs over here.
I'm like boycott this, don'tspend money on goya beans or you
know these like things that aresupposedly not a good
businesses.
But then I haven't like I knowlike starbucks and target and

(15:01):
these things people for a longtime have been saying to stay
away from.
But I mean like let's be honestat any point, like Starbucks
and Target are always full withpeople and stuff.
This is maybe the most likepowerful one I've seen so far.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, that's true, and for it to be, you know, not
even a week old yet, for them tohave millions of dollars.
You know, that's something thatthey they can't ignore.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
They can't ignore those numbers I know and I think
this is the first time I'veseen a lot of like hollywood
people say I know they'restarting to say that they're
like um, foregoing their ownmovie promotions and their own
like marvel red carpets andeverything.
So it will be interesting onceagain.
If I was like a movie personwith nothing to do with this, I

(15:46):
would just kind of be like well,you know, I understand it means
like free speech for everyone,and this is this is like the
example that we all have to setso that we show networks that we
don't deal with this, but Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I hear you.
Well on the topic of the viewhere, let's see, the FCC is
possibly targeting the views.
Basically saying in a nutshellthat I think Trump stated that
they're very mean to him.

(16:22):
You know they, they always talknegative about him and you know
, maybe they should be taken offthe air.
Next, do you think that thiswas a coincidence, that this
came out like right around thetime they're actually saying
something, or is it just kind ofa, you know, a direct okay, you
want to say something now?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Yeah, I mean because one could argue either way.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh yeah, I think, like I said, it has to be all
around that if we're targetingshows like the View, then we
have to target shows like that.
On the other side of politicsor you know like that are saying
it has to be symmetrical, and Ihave felt that way for, like,
no matter who's kind of thewinning team at that point.
So, yeah, I feel like the viewseems so innocuous to me, Like,

(17:09):
even if they have opinions, Idon't like they're not hurting
anyone or they're just sharingtheir opinions and not really
inciting violence or anythinglike that.
So, yeah, I think thisdefinitely seems very targeted.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh yeah, one thing about the view for anyone who's
watching.
They kind of know, even if theyfeel strongly about something,
they're always quick to pointout that it is your choice.
Especially when it comes topolitics.
You choose who's there and whatthey do by your vote.
Yeah, and they really encouragethat.

(17:41):
And what I like about it isthat even if you have a
difference of opinion, you canrespect that opinion and still
disagree with it and be civilabout it.
You don't have to yell, scream,want to fight and all this and
it's okay to debate.
It really is.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
But you can't have a system to where okay, you know
what.
This show's not saying anythingnice about me, we're taking it
off the air.
You can't have that either.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I know and I wonder if it's also I don't know how
the view is doing financially,but it's like what else would
they put in that time slot?
Like, as humans, we still wantto watch other humans sit and
talk around about their viewsand that's interesting.
I think a lot of talking headshows talking head shows that
that's what we want to watch isother people's opinions and it
makes us feel we like we agreewith them or we disagree or we

(18:29):
learn from them.
But, um, I think, like jimmykimmel and the view they could,
they really could like take itoff broadcast and do numbers
that are even more like.
I think I saw the john thedaily show.
One had like seven millionviews on youtube and that's so
much more than like what theother, what the actual broadcast
numbers are doing.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
So it's so interesting to me that you know
the power can be like moreindependent stuff that's true
and you know, like the view, Idid not know people watch the
view like this, but you knowthere's a weekend view, there's
a podcast of the view, oh really.
So people watch the view way,way more than I do, obviously.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
And I guess the point I'm trying to make is that even
if you successfully get themtaken off the air, you're not
going to necessarily kill theirvoice, If anything you're going
to amplify it.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Yeah, yeah, and that's ridiculous.
If, like, what they're sayingis not allowed to be in our
common, it's like we havechannels that they can be
talking about that, whateverpeople on Fox can be talking
about what they want to talkabout.
You know, people on the FoodNetwork are talking about this.
It's like it's just we'reallowed to have all different
stations and if you don't likeit, then yeah, exactly, tune out
.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
And you know, my thing is like this if you're
going to talk about you don'tlike their speech or whatever,
you can do it on both sides.
You can't go well, this personis real extreme, but we like him
.
He's one of us, so that's fine.
But because we don't like thisperson, no, we need to take him
off the air right, yeah, and tome like they would have to be
saying worse things.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I don't know.
It gets really weird when, ifwe start to have a situation
where, like you can't talk badlyabout the president or you know
, like it's just, it's justweird.
But there's also the I waslistening to a podcast, kind of
with the other view of thingswhere it's like well, these are
private businesses and they'reallowed to do what they want to
like, no one's putting them injail for the freedom of speech.

(20:18):
They're basically excuse mejust like letting go of shows
that aren't making money, likeit's a money thing at the end of
the day is what they're saying.
But we know it's probably notall that I know.
Okay then what are you going toput in?
I don't know at this point whatwould make a lot of money on
broadcast TV.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I don't know.
I mean right now.
In Jimmy Kimmel's spot theyhave reruns of Celebrity Family
Feud right now.
It's just going to keep beinggame show after game show.
Yeah, it seems to be a lot ofgame shows these days.
That's true, but will theybring in the amount of
viewership as Jimmy Kimmel?

(20:57):
I could be wrong, but I don'tthink so.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I know.
I wonder if they're also tryingto target different age
brackets where it's like, okay,most people now, from 18 to 45
or whatever, are going to bewatching pretty much YouTube or
streaming, but maybe traditionalbroadcast people in their later
years are tuning in more.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, that's true.
That's true, it's going to beinteresting.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
It's going to be interesting to see if they go in
hard on the view or if theykind of back off yeah, it's very
cool here too, living inburbank, because I get to a lot
of my like friends that arecomedians and writers who are
part of the writers guild.
Um like, they strike right by bydisney studios right by where I
live.
So, like you know, I'm not inthe writers guild or anything,
but it's really cool to likedrive by Disney Studios right by

(21:46):
where I live.
So, like you know, I'm not inthe Writers Guild or anything,
but it's really cool to likedrive by and see all these
people.
They were doing it foranimation when the Animation
Guild was kind of going throughsome stuff, and then during like
the AI times and so like, whenI drive to go get my groceries
today later when I drive by,I'll see like hundreds of people
right outside of Disney withsigns and like a few of my

(22:13):
friends have gone viral forhaving like protest signs and
stuff, so it's really cool tosee people like you know taking
action absolutely, absolutelywell, someone else that's voting
with their dollar is TravisKelsey, who, uh, recently just
got fined $14,491 for makingquote-unquote obscene gestures.
During last week's match beforethe Kansas City Chiefs and the
Eagles, after a 23-yard gain bythe Chiefs, he celebrated by

(22:37):
gesturing animatedly to hisgroin, seemingly directing his
movements towards the sideline,the Philly sideline.
The NFL announced that theywould be cracking down on
gestures that wereunsportsmanlike, violently and
sexually suggestive.
Then the chief was lost, whichwas also embarrassing, but then

(22:57):
I don't know, I guess.
Okay, my first question for youis like do you know where the
odd number of like 14,491 comeLike?
Why not just round up to a cool15,000?
Do you know why it's thatnumber?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
No, it actually sounds ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, why make it to that dollar?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Why not just say 15,000, to call it a day?

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And you know the real thing about it.
Merle is now don't get me wrong, $14,000 is a lot of money,
don't get me wrong.
But the players that make likein his case, you know their
contract is worth $100 or over$100 million.
That $14,000 is really nothing.
I mean, let's be real, right,it's nothing to them.

(23:40):
Yeah, and you know they'vealways had rules in there about
unsportsmanlike contact,unnecessary celebrations, you
unnecessary celebrations whenthey kind of take it over there.
I think what he did was kind ofa little bit over the top.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
It's not classy.
That could have really got outof hand.
What if that started a bigbrawl on the field?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, I feel that way where it's like I think it's
totally okay to celebrate, it'snot.
It's not offensive to me, likeper se, but it's also just kind
of like oh god, it's not theclassiest or whatever, but I
think it's kind of silly.
And I think also when you're,when you grow up, playing
football, like at what pointdoes that start?
That's just kind of acting likea little kid which we all are
sometimes, you know like it'skind of like if you win

(24:25):
something and you're like suckit, you know we've all, we've
all.
It's like at what age are yousupposed to grow out of that?
I don't know, maybe when you'replaying like college football or
something, I don't really know.
But if I was Travis Kelsey, Iliterally every game would just
get fined.
But then I would also I wouldsay I'm going to match my
donations every game to like acharity.
So, um, you know, I'll pay 15grand to like an animal shelter

(24:47):
or something like that and Iwould just make it fun yeah,
that would be an interesting wayof making money, but yes,
definitely.
Yeah, I would just say like,okay, I'm gonna do whatever
gesture I want and then justlike, but I'm gonna match it to
a charity and then then thatcharity hopefully will get like
the spotlight.
Um, I think it's a little sillyand like, yeah, not classy.
But I also I don't know whythat amount to be fined, that is

(25:11):
a weird amount.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I mean, I don't know how yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I know I wonder, yeah , yeah, I wonder what the
calculation is there.
I'll have to find that out more.
But um, it's funny becausebecause like our, now that he's
marrying taylor, he just seemsso like, I think, in our minds.
We think of a lot of people,think of him as a Prince
Charming type of perfect guy.
But then some of his actions onthe field, whether it's pushing

(25:35):
his coach or just acting a fool, definitely he's not the most
grown-up, I think.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
No, and the other thing, too, is he needs to be
careful, because there arecertain things that will not
only get you kicked out the game, but get you suspended for a
few games too.
So yeah he needs to understandthat, yes, you know you do have
a very famous fiance, that theworld knows who it is.
There are limits to what youcould do on that field and I

(26:02):
know.
And he needs to be careful aboutthat.
And the other thing, too, iswhen you get suspended or kicked
out of a game, you hurt yourteam.
Yeah, To do the gesture and toturn around and lose, you got to
ask the question was it reallyworth it?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Exactly, especially since, like this is supposedly
maybe his last year and he'sgoing to retire soon.
Like it's a weird way to go out, but I don't know.
It just brings up a better, abigger conversation of like what
do we expect from a bunch ofmen on the team, like filled
with testosterone and you know,like tensions are high and
everything.
And then I think sometimes,especially in baseball, when

(26:40):
people start like yelling the Fword to each other and people
gather in fights like that, thatto me is not as, just as bad as
like someone signaling to theirtesticles or whatever you know.
So I don't know I just feel likeyou have to be classy the whole
way through, or we have to justsay like no fighting, no acting
weird oh yeah, and then theother thing, too, is a lot of

(27:02):
people forget this is what arewe teaching people that are
young, people that are in schoolplaying ball?
What are we teaching themExactly.
To me, acting silly andfighting is just as annoying as
these weird gestures.
Sometimes I think it's silly.
I do like when they spike theball and dance and do all these
things.
I think it's like, just be cool, you have all the money in the

(27:26):
world, just calm down amen tothat, talking about somebody
who's not calming down.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
jimmy kimmel was spotted going to see a
high-powered entertainmentattorney, so there's there's
speculation that he's eithertrying to negotiate a deal to
come back to the show ornegotiate a deal where they pay

(27:54):
him off to move forward.
We don't know, because it's allspeculation, of course, but
what do you think, meryl?
What do you think this means orpotentially means?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I think some attorney is probably so excited for this
case I wonder who it is.
I bet there were so manyattorneys that were like please
meet me because they're, becauselike when trump was like we let
him go because he's nottalented, and like what he said
was offensive, it's like that isso subjective, that's like, but
I don't know, in california Ifeel like wrongful termination

(28:23):
or like you're pretty much youcan like let people go at will.
So it will be very interestingto see what they come up with.
But I don't blame him and Ilike.
The minute I saw that I'm like,oh, I bet he has like a really
good, at least a good case.
You know that is worth gettinga lawyer for.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Oh, yeah, I mean definitely no-transcript.

(29:07):
Or is it a situation where theycould say it was, you know,
some type of issue with moralityor whatever?
Because I know in everycontract, especially big
contracts like that, there arethe morality clause in those
contracts.
But I don't think the reasonthey got suspended is a morality

(29:29):
issue.
Again, I'm not a lawyer so Idon't know.
But what can the networkactually say?

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Right, exactly, I mean, I think, if anything, it's
like oh, we said indefinitely,we didn't mean forever Like
maybe they'll even walk it backtoo.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Mm-hmm, Because right now he knows what indefinitely
means.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Oh my gosh.
I just refreshed to go to thestory and it just said now he's
going to return.
Are you serious?
This is breaking news, you guys.
Yeah, I just updated.
It just said he's going toreturn on tuesday night.
So when you guys are listeningto this, that means tuesday
night whoa wow, I was wrong.
I said I was totally wrong.

(30:16):
I said no, I don't think,because from what I heard,
people were telling me they werelike moving stuff out of the
office and everything.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Wow, so it worked.
The crazy thing about the mailis that, um, the chemo shop
forgot what network is actuallyowns them, um that they're an
affiliate of abc and they weretrying to another company like
next star or something, or, theyneed yes, they need the fcc
approval in order to do themerge.

(30:43):
So a lot of people think thatthis is really a money play,
Basically the FCC threateningthem.
Well, if you want this mergerto happen, you need to get rid
of Kimmel.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
The backlash and I think for the companies, the
more important thing is losingbillions of dollars in a matter
of days.
The backlash from viewers andsubscribers to the streaming
channel, you know, from viewersand subscribers to the streaming
channel.
I think it, hit to the point,is like okay, how much are we

(31:13):
going to lose to make this work?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Cause at some point.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
You have to look at it and go.
Is this really worth it?

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I'm so interested to hear from everyone too that
canceled their Disney.
It's like are you resubscribingright now?
Like I wonder if there's likewhat if resubscribing right now?
I wonder if there's what ifthey make a subscription more
expensive?
They're like we've raised thefees $5 since you've been gone.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Wow, talk about breaking news.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Exactly.
Maybe we conjured it.
I was totally wrong.
I really thought no, theywouldn't do it.
He's gone, gone, gone, butit'll be.
If anything, they don't have toworry about ratings for at
least that night, because peoplewill be tuning in to see what
he has to say.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think that um something that attorney my
attorney, in my opinion probablyreached out to the company as
well as to abc and said andsomehow or another, there was
some kind of come to Jesusmoment, because that's very,
very fast to them to retract.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Exactly.
I would have to think thatthere's cases for all of the
employees too, like you know,some type of wrong.
I'm sure somewhere there'ssomething legally that would
help the people that were let gofrom this situation too.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh sure, wow.
Well, you know we have tofollow up on this next week as
well.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, oh my gosh, that's so funny.
That's really really, reallyfunny.
It's getting spicy.
This is a real first.
This is also good.
This is why it's good to likerefresh, like I was reading the
article, your article, and Irefreshed it in real time.
I'm like wait, hold on.
Well, we'll see.
We'll see if, during this story, things change too.

(32:47):
But, um, speaking of lawyers,justin baldoni hires sean diddy
combs, lawyer in blake lively'slegal battle.
He has hired defense attorneyalexandra shapiro, who
previously represented seandiddy combs, to join his legal
team among his um ongoingdispute with blake lively.
So, yeah, they pretty much.

(33:07):
She was part of his defenseteam in Diddy's trial early this
year.
She was one of Ruth BaderGinsburg's first clerks on the
Supreme Court, which is prettybig.
And now, yeah, there's just allthese countersuits going on
between, like, blake Lively andher team and Justin Baldoni.
I don't even know.
It feels like what do you thinkme?

(33:28):
It's just this seems to bedragging on forever and I feel
like both of them are doingthemselves an injustice by like
continuing this on.
If I was justin, I'd want to belike no, you accused me of
something I didn't do, so I'm, Iam gonna like pile you into the
ground, um, but it seems to bereally taking a long time it's
taking a long time and also Ithink they're making their

(33:50):
attorneys rich in the processyeah, yeah because these are
very expensive cases and youknow, at some point, you know,
someone's gonna go.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
You know what?
Is this even worth it at thispoint?

Speaker 2 (34:03):
you know, and I I could be wrong, I could be
totally wrong, but to me I thinkthat's what's going to end up
happening, because this has beengoing on a long time, yeah,
yeah, and I also think too, like, if you're them, I mean it will
be interesting to see how Blaketries to return to the cultural

(34:24):
zeitgeist and stuff, because,especially like with the news
that taylor swift was mad at heryou know, I don't know how much
of these things are actuallytrue or not.
I'm sure it's not as bad as itactually is, but it's just.
I feel like this has done moreharm to her reputation than it
has to justin's.
Like.
I know people that disagreewith me and that's totally cool,
but, um, I don't know.

(34:44):
But if I was him and likesomeone said you did this and
you harassed me and it wasn'ttrue, then I would be like I
don't care how long it takes,I'm gonna make sure everyone
knows the actual truth yeah,that's true.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
But you know also, there's going to be a point
where you have to look at thedollars that you're spending and
go.
Is it worth the fight anymore?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
you know, yeah, totally yep, and I have it's
definitely wear and tear on,just like their yeah, their that
you're spending and go.
Is it worth the fight anymore?
Yeah, totally.
It's definitely a wear and tearon their reputations, their
money, everything.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's true.
Do you think there's any kindof end in sight for this?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I feel like no, I feel like it's going to end
vaguely.
I feel like they're going tomaybe dismiss some proof, saying
it's like not enough for eitherof them, maybe, like I think
it's almost like when two dogsfight and they just like fall
into a river, like that's what Ipicture it was.
Just you know, maybe one dogstarted it and it wasn't right,
but both of them now are justdrifting in a river.

(35:42):
But like the kmel thing, I'vebeen wrong before, so I don't
know.
It would be amazing if Justindoes win and he wins $400
million.
That's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Does she have $400 million?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I don't know.
I mean, I think between her andRyan and all of their
businesses, I think so, but Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I don't think they're billionaires or anything, but
that would be crazy yeah, that'strue, and I feel like Ryan will
be like bye, I'm actuallyleaving but it's definitely been
a long case though, because,man, we've talked about this a
long time ago and it's still Iknow, because remember it was
like at first a few months agoit was that she was blackmail.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Because remember it was like at first a few months
ago it was that she wasblackmailing Taylor Swift and it
was just all the like.
It seems like once a month, andI think both of them are trying
to like plant stories in thenews now to try to like persuade
the public one way or another.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, that's true.
At some point you got to wonder.
When you see all theinformation, everything going on
, it's hard to decipher what'strue and what's not true when
there's so much informationthat's coming out.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Very interesting.
Well, talking about a sadsituation and I know you and I
talked about roller coastersmultiple times on this show-
yeah.
A 32-year-old man dies on theStardust Racer roller coaster.
Um, this is sad because therewas, I guess, reports that a

(37:20):
piece of the roller coaster washanging down and he died of
blunt trauma.
And they said blunt trauma byaccident, which is a weird kind
of stating, but I don't know.
I guess if I was reading intothat I would think, okay,
something went wrong with theroller coaster, he died as a
result of this roller coasterand I believe it was the first

(37:42):
day the roller coaster was evenopen.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Oh my gosh Really.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yes, Um, in fact, um, it says here.
A 32 year old man, his name isKevin Rodriguez uh Zavala, died
from multiple blunt impactinjuries after riding the
Stardust Racers roller coasterat Universal's Epic Universe in
Florida on Wednesday, September18th.
The cause of the death was anaccident and Universal Orlando

(38:12):
stated that the roller coasterfunctioned as intended.
The ride remains closed asauthorities continue to
investigate the incident, andthere's been a recent update to
that story saying that this manI guess he was disabled.
So you know he's in awheelchair.

(38:32):
They had to put him into theroller coaster.
You know, put them into the,into the roller coaster.
That, either his harness ormaybe the harness in front of
them was malfunctioning didn'twork.
It came loose allegations wedon't know, but that's what's
coming out now.
But I guess it goes back to thething we kept talking about, as
far as these roller coasters,to me are getting more and more

(38:55):
dangerous yeah higher and higher, faster, faster.
You know the drop, you knowsteep and all this and you know,
at one point to me that's notfun anymore, you know no, I know
it doesn't need to like, shakeand rattle us like to the
extreme.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
I I totally agree with you where I think we're
getting farther away from justthe normal thrill of a roller
coaster which is just supposedto be going like up and down and
scary and maybe like a loophere and there, but it doesn't
have to throw us around or likeseparate parts of our body or
anything.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
That's very, very sad oh yeah, and you know there's a
warning on there if you havehigh blood pressure.
If you have, it's all kinds ofcrazy stuff, oh yeah, yeah, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
If you're it's all kinds of crazy stuff, oh yeah,
yeah, yeah.
If you're like heart issues,yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
But the blood pressure thing was the one that
surprised me.
What?

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I know, I know it's like that's giving me high blood
pressure.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I mean, it's like at some point you got to say this
isn't fun anymore.
This is just ridiculous, youknow.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
I agree, I totally agree and I fun anymore.
This is just ridiculous, youknow, I agree, I totally agree.
And I think, of course, likeaccidents hopefully very, very
rarely happen where it's like,okay, someone might, their bar
might not work or it's amalfunction, but just going on a
ride itself and having to bejostled around so badly that you
get injuries is just yeah,there's no excuse for it do you
think that at some point they'regoing to have to change how

(40:16):
they look at roller coasters inthis country?
yeah, because I really I have tothink I feel like less and less
people may go on them too.
You know, like, between all ofthe now that it's publicized
about that, it gets like stuckup in the air, and the more we
see this, I think like a lotmore like I don't really know
any of my friends anymore.
That I think also, once you hita certain age, you're like I'm
good on that.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I agree.
I mean there's a differencebetween having fun and try to
scare the daylights out ofsomeone.
I mean that's.
That's not fun to me if I feellike I'm gonna die on on a ride.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
That's not, yeah, yeah, exactly like when I went
to Disney with my friends there.
So they know me and it's likewe go on, it's a small world.
We go on Pirates of theCaribbean.
We go on stuff that80-year-olds can go on.
Nicely, I have just as good atime as I would going upside
down and getting nauseous on aroller coaster.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
That's the thing you want to go.
Have fun.
I used to ride roller coastersback in the day, before they
became skyscrapers and stufflike this.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
You know what?
Call me a wuss.
I don't care.
I will not go on any of thesenew world courses.
It's not that serious.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Totally Exactly.
They have the name invertedcorkscrew or something.
I'm like I don't need it, Ijust need a simple like.
Space Mountain was okay.
I think those are okay, butsame thing is especially when
you go on the newer ones.
You feel like you're I don'tthink our bodies are meant to

(41:44):
like.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
it's almost like what astronauts do in their training
, like going upside down andtriple the force, and I just
don't need that.
Oh yeah, exactly, and you know,I think at some point they're
gonna have to take a look atthis, because you start having
way too many fatalities onroller coasters.
Either a, they're gonna have tochange how they look at
building these roller coasters,or b, like you said, I think a
lot of people are gonna go youknow, what I'm good yeah, yep,

(42:05):
yep, I agree.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
well, oh my gosh, this is this ties into that too,
just some weird things.
Um, actor tom holland was justrushed to the hospital after a
botched stunt while filming theSpider-Man movie.
Filming was suspended on Fridayand could be on hold for weeks,
so it was believed that hecracked his head in a fall and
was treated for a concussion.
He it was a new movie,spider-man, brand new day was

(42:33):
suspended at when he was doingit, and a woman thought to be a
stunt double was also taken tothe hospital in an ambulance,
and I just think that's so sad.
I hope he's okay.
I guess like he left feelingill and maybe it was a
precaution too, but that's justso sad.
I love Tom Holland so much.
I think he's cute and awesome,but yeah, it seems like they

(42:56):
were doing the stunt and gothurt I know they should be doing
their own stunts though,especially with all the um I
know like maybe some of them,but it's I don't know.
I almost feel like maybe some ofthe easier things you can
almost get hurt on, like ifthere's a bar you have to jump
on, it's like you can almost gethurt by the stupidest thing.

(43:17):
So, and I do feel like there'smore respect in the industry
when you're able to be like andI did this all on my own, you
know so I don't think theyshould I would imagine, because
I'm quite sure you know,especially the key people in the
movie you know have have thatkey man's insurance or
accidental insurance or whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Because of that I would imagine that the rates to
insure those actors wouldprobably go through being a.
You know, some of them aredoing their own stunts, I would
think yeah, yeah, I agree I mean, if there's something simple,
that's one thing, but I knowlike tom he likes to take it to
the limit in a lot of his movies.

(43:57):
And a lot of the stuff that hedoes.
I'm shocked that the studioslet him do I know.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, I feel like some of the Mission Impossible
ones too, he'll be like I don'tthink he's just free.
He's not free jumping from aplane with nothing on him, but I
think some of the jumps and thegoing from building to building
and train to train I heard thathe has done them and I love.
What I do love is when actorslearn, like sword fighting or
they learn karate for differentthings.
We just watched all the Batmansand like I think Anne Hathaway

(44:28):
like learned a bunch of it.
You know it wasn't her thewhole time.
She's not doing cartwheels andstuff, but I think she did a
good deal of her own stunts,which I think is super cool.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, like I said, the easy stunts, the less
dangerous stunts, you couldprobably do those.
But jumping from train to train, jumping off cliffs, stuff like
that, I don't know.
I think that if you're going toalready have a big budget movie
, spend a little bit more andlet the stuntman or stuntwoman

(44:57):
do those stunts.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Exactly.
Yeah, you're not going to catchme when a building is blowing
up and it's a scene wherethey're running out like, ah, I
would last six minutes, and thenthey're like, oh shoot, she was
in the building, whoopsies.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, interesting, interesting, but I don't think a
lot of people, and you probablyknow better than I do.
I don't think a lot of people,and you probably know better
than I do.
I don't think a lot of actorsor actresses do their own stuff
these days, do they?

Speaker 2 (45:21):
No, it'd be really interesting to know I could be.
This is so random, but like Ithink there was like a movie
long ago with Meryl Streep.
Was it like when a River RunsThrough it or something?
Something about a river, wherethey're like on a river, you
know, kayak or whitewaterrafting and it goes really
poorly.
And from I remember hearingthat like Meryl Streep did a lot

(45:44):
of her, like she didn't do allthe stunts but it was pretty
impressive what she did do.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Very impressive, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I know, I feel like after this I'm honestly going to
research actors that didamazing stunts because I'm into
this, but hopefully Tom Hollandfeels better.
I think he's adorable.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
He's one of the young actors that I like Nice, nice.
Well, my last one to me is afeel-good moment, because of
Kimmel being suspendedindefinitely, obviously,
independence, but also a smallhandful of Republicans have

(46:24):
spoken out against the attack onfreedom of speech, especially
the language that's been used.
Regarding what was his word?
Asir?
Let me take a quick look here,but I thought it was very, very

(46:46):
interesting that he said this.
Let's see here.
Oh, here it is.
So you had Ted Cruz and I thinkhe was on a podcast when they
were talking to him, butbasically he was comparing the
language to that that you wouldhear from a mafia figure.

(47:09):
No, yes that.
Let's see.
Senator Ted Cruz, the chair ofthe Senate Commerce Committee,
which is oversight over the FCC,likened Carl's comments about
threats made by a mob boss, andthis is a quote.

(47:30):
He said I got to say this rightout of.
I got to say this is right outof Goodfellas.
The senator said right out of.
Uh, I gotta say this is rightout of goodfellas.
The senator said, referring tothe 1990 mob movie that's right
out of the muffles.
Going to a bar saying nice bar,you got here.
It'll be a shame if somethinghappened to it.
You know, oh, okay and then umanother person who was

(47:54):
definitely a diehard Republican,senator Ron Rand Paul,
appearing Sunday on NBC's Meetthe Press, called Carr's threats
absolutely inappropriate and Ithink and I could be wrong, I
think the reason why you'restarting to hear trickles of
Republicans say something isthere's a couple of things there

(48:15):
are true.
First, amendment hawks out thereyeah that they're thoroughly
believe in protecting the firstamendment.
But the other thing too is thisis a dangerous precedence.
Yeah, because at some pointwe're going to have a democratic
president.
It always flips.
It always hasn't, it alwayswill.
So now you get a democraticpresident in there, they go okay

(48:37):
, we going to return a favor,shut this show down, shut that
show down.
And all you do is, every timethe presidency changes, they
start shutting down each show.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I know.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
And that gets out of hand.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yes, I definitely believe that like being extreme
on either end and being sillyabout it is like gets everyone
in trouble and I think, yeah,same thing.
Like I think there's there'speople on the other end of
things that were taken off theair that I'm like really I
didn't agree with that.
Like I think both sides havehad situations where I'm just
like, oh god, this is like alittle much.

(49:11):
But yeah, I totally agree whereit's like they don't want to
start a precedent now ofshutting down shows like Kimmel
and the View, because in a fewyears or closer than we think,
maybe they will swing back theother way oh yeah, and do you
think that this will kind ofhelp curb some of that, or do
you think that the train hasalready left the station and

(49:33):
can't catch it now?
I think the train has left thestation to the most part and I
definitely think that if we haveto remember some of the reason
that I think a lot of people onthe right don't like the left,
is because they view the left aslike being overly sensitive and
crybabies and, you know,canceling things if they don't
like them, and so it's like whatyou don't want to do is act
like you're the person you don't.
You don't want to be like, youknow.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
So it's just, it's a little like boy who cried wolf
for me.
Yeah, I mean it was kind ofshocking to hear this, because
typically republicans just kindof fall in line.
But do you think that this mayum pave the way for some other
republicans to speak up?

Speaker 2 (50:11):
yeah, oh yeah.
Yeah, I feel like maybe that'stheir version of like, I don't
know.
Sometimes, when I think peopleon the left don't like things,
like they, you know, in a goodway, they like take it to the
streets and protest.
And I feel like sometimesRepublicans don't like things,
they just cancel them and shutit down, you know.
So, yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
It's going to be interesting.
But tell you one thing maybe,just maybe, they kind of help,
kind of fuel the fire to jimmycoming back, because, uh, it's
going to be interesting for meto see the check the updates now
.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, coming back tomorrow, that's going to be
interesting that's what I and wetalked about this last week too
.
But that's why I really hopefor, like, the next wave of
leadership to just come in andjust unite people, because I
feel like so much of it is inflames now and I think our I
really think our nation doesn'twant to like hate each other and
be split Like.

(51:09):
I think I really have this hopethat like the next person will
be, make us all proud to be likeAmericans again and stuff, you
know.
So I don't know, we need somehealing energy.
That is one reason that likelove him or not like him, like I
thought Obama was so wonderfulat just calming everyone and
like uniting the nation and inhis speeches, like the way that
he spoke.
So I feel like I really reallyreally hope for leaders like

(51:32):
that, but I don't know, it seemslike we're going to take some
time with that before we get it.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Yeah, but I don't know.
It seems like we're going totake some time with that before
we get it.
Yeah, that's true, and you know.
The other thing too is you know, I think Obama was probably the
last of the old political partysystem, and what I mean by that
is I remember when theyinterviewed President Biden I
think it was early in his firstterm and you know, a lot of

(51:59):
people wasn't aware at the timethat him and John McCain were
actually really really goodfriends, even though, you know,
one's a Democrat, one's aRepublican and, ideology wise,
they're totally opposite.
But they can still cross theaisle and talk to each other,
crack a joke hey, how's yourfamily doing?
They were very cordial.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
And I remember when Biden said you know, it was
starting to get dangerous.
When he was pulled to the sidesaying you know, maybe it's not
such a good idea that you're sofriendly.
And it's like why I mean right,you know, because there are two
different sides of thepolitical spectrum.
They got to hate each other nowexactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
So I I really think we're gonna like grow out of
this and then people will thatwill be leaders, hopefully will
come in and just I feel likewe're all like little unruly
children and we need a teacherto come in and just say like
listen everyone, like we'regonna all calm down and just not
play the blame game so much.
Imagine if all of our time wasspent, instead of this, working

(53:02):
towards something else, likesolving homelessness or solving
something else.
I think we could have anamazing country, but instead
it's like cracking.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I agree with you.
With all this hate that's goingaround, nobody wins, nobody
wins.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, not at all.
Well, one person that did winfor my last story, which I think
is so cute, is um a 66 year oldretired accountant, kent
brossard, who proved it's nevertoo late to chase his dream.
After he retired from a longcareer in accounting, he
enrolled at lsu, louisiana stateuniversity, as a full-time

(53:38):
student and his one goal was tojoin the famed Tiger Marching
Band, and he did, which I thinkis so cute, so he's now the
oldest marching band memberthere.
He played his sousaphone and Ijust think he was on the field
and I think that's so cute.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
That is nice.
That's talking about chase yourdreams.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I love that right and also like why wouldn't?
Why wouldn't a show or acollege want, like someone who's
66 on the field?
Because at that point you'reprobably like really good at
your instrument and you'reprobably, you know, like you,
you've seen it all, you've doneit all.
So he was in marching band inhigh school and college.
Um, he said he didn't do muchmarching there, but now their

(54:18):
marching band is very active buthe's keeping up quite well with
it.
So I think that's so sweet andI just feel like he's going to
be the team mascot.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
That is definitely a feel good story and I think it's
going to help the people, thestudents around him, realize
that do not, ever, ever, give upon your dreams.
Don't let anyone deter you.
You know, if you have a dream,something you want to go after,
go after it.
Don't let anyone get away fromthat.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yep, absolutely, and I think that's amazing, like I
wish there was people of alldifferent ages and I think I
don't know Louisiana State'sawesome too.
I know they have like a reallygreat sports.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Well, you know what you have to be good to make the
team.
They're not just going to putthem on just because.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
I know, I know Yep.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
I think that's so cool, cool, wow.
This has been a crazy hour.
A lot of stuff going on today.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah, the moral of the story is follow your dreams,
but cancel Disney, but nowrehire Disney.
Have a view but not the view.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
A lot of different messages today.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
A lot of different messages.
They all boiled down to dowhatever you want and it kind of
is all pretend anyway.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Well, talk about things to do.
What do you have coming up,Meryl?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Oh my gosh.
Okay, so if anyone is on theEast Coast, I will be in
Pennsylvania performing at theNEPA comedy festival, which is
like I'm from NortheasternPennsylvania, shortened to NEPA.
So their comedy festival isOctober 4th and, yeah, I will.
I will be there.
So it's in Stroudsburg,Pennsylvania, which I'm very

(55:54):
excited to go back and seefriends.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Nice, nice, nice.
So that's your hometown thatyou're from it's my hometown,
yep and you're performing andthat's gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I know, I know I'm gonna.
I don't know how much I feellike already coming from Los
Angeles.
Sometimes people are like ohgod, these annoying LA people.
So I tend to make fun of LA alot when I'm like out town.
It's annoying.
Everyone views LA as annoying,and they're correct.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Well, everyone, if you're in the area, definitely
make sure you stop by andsupport Mel Say hi.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Thank you everyone for watching the show, for
listening to us on all thedifferent podcast stations that
we're on.
Again, please feel free tofollow us on social media Also.
Subscribe to us onLRTVnetworkcom or follow us on
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I am Lawrence Elrod.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
And I'm Meryl Clemo.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Have a great day everyone.
Bye, bye, bye-bye.