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We dive into the social media war between TGI Fridays and Chili's over mozzarella stick supremacy, with Chili's devastating comeback going viral while many people admit they didn't know Fridays restaurants still existed.

• New Orleans prison break where 10 inmates escaped by ripping a toilet off the wall and crawling through the opening
• Colorado Rockies fan suing the team after being hit by a foul ball, claiming the team is "so boring" that fans don't pay attention
• Denzel Washington confronted by a photographer who grabbed him twice on the red carpet, highlighting issues of personal boundaries and respect
• The National Spelling Bee's 100th anniversary celebration and where past champions have landed in their careers
• Trump's threat to impose a 50% tariff on Apple products, potentially driving iPhone prices up to $3,500
• Carnival Cruise ship's dramatic rescue of a couple and their dogs after their catamaran was damaged in a storm
• French President Emmanuel Macron caught on camera being shoved by his wife before exiting a plane
• The American Music Awards' disappointing show with major stars absent and questionable performances

Don't forget to check out Meryl in Minneapolis on June 6th at the Booms on the Lake comedy festival!


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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
And I'm Meryl Clemo.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Hey, meryl, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey, hey, it's going really well.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Good, good, good.
I'm loving my new camera.
How's yours?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I'm loving my new camera too.
I love it slash.
I'm apologizing to people thathave now seen more pores in my
face than you even are used to.
In fact, it's so funny because,like I did not notice, I like
have a pimple on my eye and I'mlike, okay, it took up until
this recording that I now knowthat this is a testament to not
fall asleep with your makeup on.

(00:49):
But I love this camera.
I feel like we're lookingsnazzy.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh, absolutely.
I noticed that both audio andvisual quality is really 90
different with these cameras.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, hopefully people are seeing parts of us
they've never seen before.
Yeah, yeah, so hopefully peopleare seeing parts of us they've
never seen before.
There you go and may only wantto see again once a week.
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
It's been a lot going on over the last week, so I am
going to go ahead and let youstart.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Okay, cool, I'm going to start off with some fun,
lighthearted uh beef, as theysay, or you know, in the fast
food world or restaurant world,um, we talk a lot about like
chilies and just restaurantslike that that are hopefully not
going away totally, butdefinitely getting less and less
popular.
But, uh, there's now apopularity contest big time
between chilies and tgi fridays,which I think the internet

(01:43):
pretty much chose a winner, andthere was some internet beef.
So basically, tgi Fridays waspiping up and tweeted out
somebody tell Chili's to stay intheir lane.
Y'all are not mozzarella stickpeople, we are, that's it.
That's the tweet which is like,honestly, it's kind of 2017
type of embarrassing.
I was a little bit embarrassedfor TGI Fridays when I saw that

(02:06):
and then Chili's clapped backand said hey, tgi Fridays at us
next time.
Also, we honestly didn't know,you were still open, congrats,
and so then obviously that wasreally funny and really good and
it got to.
For the most part, people keptit pretty lighthearted and
people were commenting like, whywould TGI Fridays be talking

(02:28):
about their mozzarella stickswhen right now, everyone talks
about, like the chilies, themock, you know, the cheese pole
a lot of people are talkingabout, like the cheese sticks,
um, and then people were sayinglike I didn't even know, fridays
was in my area and sure enough,I looked.
I don't know how it is whereyou live, but I looked and there
was like the closest Friday'sis like an hour away in each
direction, which is very sadbecause I like Friday's.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You know the sad part .
I thought they were closed downtoo.
Yeah, years ago we had a lot ofTGI Fridays in the area and
literally all of them probablywithin a 50 mile radius as far
as what I know are all closed.
So I'm actually I actuallydidn't know they were still open
either.
So really sorry, tj friday noand I.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's so funny because , like honestly, as a brand, I
probably like fridays better.
Like, if I had to choose whichone, if it was 8 pm and there
was like both at a mall, I wouldprobably suggest going to
fridays with a friend.
But, um, I think chili's hasdone a good job with influencers
and with, like, the youngergeneration too.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I think they think it's cool to go to chili's and
get like the mozzarella sticksand just like the appetizers you
know chili's is good but I haveto admit I lean towards tj at
fridays because I love that jackdans sucks.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Oh yeah, it's so good yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
And I haven't seen anyone that can copy that.
So yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
And even just the feeling of how Fridays used to
be.
I feel like you still felt likeyou were somewhat getting
dressed.
It was a fun restaurant and hadmore of a theme.
To me, I don't know, it justseemed like more of an
experience.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
That's true.
I would love to see them openback up in my area, because that
was one of my favoriterestaurants.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, I agree.
I also think that tweet wasgeeky.
It's like we're the mozzarellasticks.
That's the tweet.
I'm like, oh god, that'sembarrassing, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
It definitely seems like someone my age wrote it and
then someone your son's age wasresponding on chili's behalf
yeah, but I think, um, I don'tthink that tj friday really want
to be going after chilis,because no, but most people
didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
You're still around, so yeah, and people had a good
point where, honestly, I seefridays represented a lot in the
frozen aisle.
Like someone was saying, theonly time I see mozzarella
sticks is in the freezer aisleand like the potato skins and
all that they definitely arestill.
They're doing great, I think,freezer wise, but not so much in
person wise.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
That's true.
That is true because they're.
Even when I go to the grocerystore, I see all their products
in a freezer.
Like you said, a lot of themtoo.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, my issues with chili mozzarella sticks is
they're almost like they're tooflat.
They're not the typical stick,they're more like logs.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes, yes, yes, I kind of like the stick stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yeah, me too.
I want them more old school.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
So yeah, we'll see if there's going to be some more
clap back now that they startedlaunching the little battles
here.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I know I'm waiting for my baby, red Lobster, to go
and retweet all of this and justbe like you guys are all crazy.
There you go.
Applebee's is staying quiet.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yes that's true?
Well, you know there was in thenews about that date.
You know, taking your firstdate to, to my goodness, to
Cheesecake Factory.
Remember that Factory thingthat came out about taking your
first date on the CheesecakeFactory.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, which, like they all have
different purposes.
You know, like I feel likeChili's I would go to with my
family.
Tgi Fridays I want to go andhang out with my friends, like
after an event or something, andthe Cheesecake Factory is like
a weird.
I'm in a different city, Idon't even know what I'm doing,
kind of thing.
That's true, that is true.

(06:27):
This is a random fun fact is Ionce saw a very serious breakup
happen at cheesecake factory.
Yeah, it was so bad that thegirl was like leaning her head
down on the table and crying andand I it was a few years ago
and I thought I did somethingbad where I took a picture of it
and then I posted on myfacebook and said like I'm
watching this break, and peoplewere so mad at me that I was
like I was using them forcontent.

(06:49):
Well, it was definitely originalcontent, though, yeah it was
bad and they were right outsideof Cheesecake Factory and you
could tell he was the onedumping her and I felt really
bad.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I wonder why he did it.
Oh, I know why he did it there,because he figures a lot of
people around, she can't throwanything at him.
Calm her down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
And as much as I love men too, bless all your hearts.
It was also a typical man thingwhere you could tell he didn't
think it out and the waitresskept on coming over.
He didn't wait until the foodwas on its way.
So he was talking and then shewas crying and the waitress
would have to come take theirorder and interrupt them.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, that was a very awkward dinner.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, very bad, but anyway, that's all to say that
Chili's and TGI Fridays are funto watch on social media.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
That is true, that is true.
Well, talking about somethingnot so fun, I'm quite sure
everyone has heard about theescape with the 10 inmates a
little over a week ago out of aNew Orleans jail.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Unless you've been under a rock to catch you up.
There were 10 inmates thatescaped.
They actually ripped a toiletoff the wall, oh my gosh.
They went out of the hole.
And then, you know, I hate tosay it, but I don't think these
guys were very bright, Becausethere was a few things to me

(08:16):
that you know they probablyshould have did.
One, you know, when they findout you're gone, they're going
to be obsessed.
So someone had the bright ideaof writing oh wow, this is so
easy.
Lol on the wall.
Are you kidding?
Yeah, just go ahead and throwthat salt on the wound there.
I wonder at what point theywrote it.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Huh, I wonder at what point they wrote that Made an
escape.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think it was made right before they left out.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh, okay, you know kind of like a little, or just
even I think it was made rightbefore they left out, so they
knew.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Kind of like a little dig and then here's the thing
you escape from jail and youstay in New Orleans.
Don't understand the logic ofthat.
No, so they caught eight ofthem.
There's only two left now.
These two have been convictedof murder, so hopefully they

(09:10):
catch those two pretty soon.
But most of them were caught onvideo camera, have facial
recognition.
Some of them were actuallywalking over from the French
Quarter.
Now you know the French Quarterhas thousands of cameras and
stuff because it's a forced area.

(09:30):
So it's like did you guys reallyhave a plan once you got out?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I know, and that's one of the most heavily policed
areas.
Even though you could probablyblend in with a lot of people,
you're still amongst who thepeople would be looking for.
There's other areas that youcould probably blend in with a
lot of people.
You're still amongst who thepeople would be looking for.
There's other areas that youcan go really unnoticed.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And one person.
This is probably shocking.
One person was caught at hisgrandmother's house.
No, seriously, and it's likedude.
You know that's one of thefirst places you're going to go
is your family and friends.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I wonder if all , all eight, they didn't stick
together right like they weren'tall in a clump of eight.
No, so they all dispersed intotheir different lives, and
someone to their grandma's houseand stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay yeah, but you know, I guess they've arrested I
guess nine people that havehelped them in one way or other,
either harbored them, gave themmoney, gave them a ride, gave
them clothes.
So they're literally charginganyone who had any help
whatsoever.
And there was a janitor whoturned off the water to the

(10:39):
toilet, because if you rip atoilet off the wall, you know
you rip the plumbing and stufftoo.
Yeah, that's why no water oranything came out, because he
turned the water off.
And when they arrested him hesaid Well, the reason I did that
?
Because they threatened toShake me, you know, to stab me
If I didn't do what they said.

(11:00):
And I'm thinking so you reallycouldn't go to the warden with
this.
I mean, yeah, so yeah, it'sjust said, and I'm thinking so
you really couldn't go to theWharton with this.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
So yeah, it's just unbelievable.
I mean I gotta admit it waspretty creative how they got out
.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
That's where the plan fell.
Apart is okay.
What do we do now?
That's the way.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
And, of course, for the movie, part of me wants to
be like go, go, run.
You course, for the movie, partof me wants to be like go, go,
run.
There's that part of me.
Of course, they're human beingsstill, so I don't Not to say I
don't want them in jail, butthat is sad.
Of course they want to be free,they want to be able to do
their things.
I don't know these people orwhatever, but yeah, that's

(11:45):
definitely crazy and I guessyou're right.
Normally these things, I'm like, wouldn't you immediately try
to change up your hair and youroutfit?
But it's like, yeah, they haveno money, they have nothing.
So it's like they can'tnecessarily go buy a wig and a
whole you know, get their nosepierced or something.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Or at a minimum, get out of New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because you probably could
hitchhike or take a bus orsomething.
I think you definitely could.
I mean, I guess you have nomoney, but it's still, chances
are.
I'm sure you could get at leastpretty far away.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Oh yeah, I mean the ones that were captured now.
I think they're in maximumfacility right now, but again,
it's amazing that they got outbut then they were caught about
a week later, because again it'slike they had no plan.
Oh my gosh, thank God that noone was hurt.

(12:37):
That's the good part of thestory.
Is that no innocent people werehurting this?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Exactly, because that's the other part of me, the
small side of me.
That's like go run, be free.
It's like you don't know ifthey're a danger to society or
not and if they're going to harmpeople you know.
So, of course, that's a seriousissue that's true.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
And then I want to say, a day or two later, um, I
forgot where it was at.
But then there was anotherescape someplace else, this guy
that used to be a police officer, sheriff, and he was convicted
and he, what did he do?
He had a makeshift policeuniform on that I guess he made

(13:18):
while he was in prison andliterally just right out the
front door, like he was taking,you know, taking wood or
whatever.
Oh, it's like, yeah, we're alittle worried about our
criminal justice system here.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean yes, in general, but yes.
I do think, though, if you'reable to pull off such a creative
thing, you should at least getsome treat or something I don't
know.
In prison, you have to usuallybe part of some group that I
don't know that has to go.
Then, in prison, you have tousually be part of some group
that I don't know whether it'screative acting or something.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
The one thing that is true, and I've heard this over
and over again.
You will be amazed at howcreative these prisoners will
get, because they have enoughtime on their hands.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I know that is the part of me that's sad.
I know people.
Obviously is the part of methat's sad and I know people.
Obviously.
If people, of course, if youhave like a loved one that was
hurt or anyone in general, likeyou want to see the person rot
there and be there forever, butlike there is, like there
definitely is the human elementof it is just someone wants to
get out of jail is like stillvery sad, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's true, that is very true.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
So I mean, the thing is don't don't murder people, or
try your best not to murdersomeone.
So I feel like I mean, neworleans is one of my favorite
cities in the whole wide worldand it's like they just have the
craziest stuff that happensthere too.
It's always like I feel likethey never get a boring week in
New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Absolutely not.
It's already crazy enough.
I love New Orleans so much Cool, this one is pretty ridiculous.
I love this one.
I love when I could throw insports because I'm like, I'm so
not a sports person, but I sawthis and it made me laugh so
hard.
So, basically, the rockies aregetting sued.

(15:06):
A man sustained an injury, butone of the things he's suing is
because the rockies are so badthat he's blaming them for being
so bad that it's boring andtherefore he wasn't paying
attention to the game and thenhe got hit.
So we'll break this down alittle bit, but I find this
hilarious.
Um, so the team is being sued bya man named tim Rockle who was

(15:27):
hit in the face by a foul ballwhile attending a Rockies game,
and so he was saying that hesustained a bunch of injuries.
He was in a luxury suite in2023.
And from his seat, he wasunable to see the ball coming in
his direction, which Iunderstand that.
I definitely can see thathappening.
Uh, according to the lawsuit,he was struck in the right eye

(15:49):
and phase and sufferedcatastrophic and permanent
injuries.
Now you know that alone is he'ssaying that, like the rockies.
Um, the net the protective netdidn't extend far enough.
So like that is a structuralthing that he's saying.
But then his lawsuit went on tosay that, um, a complaint, he's
also complaining that theorganization's long-standing

(16:09):
poor performance of the fieldhas contributed to a game day
environment in which spectatorsare less engaged with the action
on the field.
So I don't know, I have to saythat's pretty funny.
Like obviously, who knows, Idon't think they'll take that
seriously in court, like boredomreally can't be measured or
like you can't blame a team onit.
But I think that is so funnythat like someone saying the

(16:31):
team is so bad that we've justyou know, we just come to watch
anything but the baseball game.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I mean, it's a nice gesture, but does he realize how
many people could potentiallysue their teams?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
For being bad, or someone suffers a heart attack
or something it's like.
Oh, you know, the games are tooup and down for me, or you know
?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, like you know , it's, it's kind of cute, but
I'm no lawyer, but I think thatpart of it would be thrown out,
you know.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, I do understand especially if that's true about
where he was sitting if therewas no net, but I I still feel,
like the baseball stadiums ingeneral, there are so many
places that if you're not payingattention or the ball comes the
wrong way, you like, no matter.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
there's so many places that you could get hurt
well, here's the thing dependingon where you're at merrill,
there's physically no way toprotect every single seat in.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Skybox.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
It's just physically impossible.
I mean, what are you going todo?
Put it way up past the stadiumitself?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Just net the whole thing, yeah, yeah, if you think
people aren't paying attentionalready, what they're not going
to do is look through a net andyou know like yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
So at some point it's like okay, is this one of those
bad accidents?
Okay, and I'll give them that.
Okay, you got hit with a ball,I could see you know I can see
all that, but to say that youwere so bored because they were
so bad, come on.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I know, I know, I know.
If he wins that, I'm going tosue the Bears because we've been
struggling over the last fewyears and I mean, hey, exactly,
and I'm going to make myboyfriend sue the Padres because
I feel like they're always goodat the beginning and then they
get terrible in the end.
So it's like he could be sodistressed that he like misses

(18:16):
the ball or you know, like yeah,I think it's just so funny that
a guy is like the team is sobad that we just come to games
and just tune out the game.
We're used to them just suckingso bad.
I mean it's ridiculous, but tome that's so silly.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Oh yeah, and you know the teams can have an easy
response to it is well, we're sobad, why did you pay your money
?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Exactly, if you're going to not watch a baseball
game, then just don't go to one,it's okay.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Exactly, I mean, I tip my hat off for effort,
though.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, yeah, I've been watching some.
I think it was a Rockies gamethat of course I only Watch the
Padres because I have to,because that's what's on at home
, but like there was one Padresgame where they were just
Meeting them, so much that itwas, I have so much respect for
the Rockies For that game forstill even playing, because I
feel like I would just throw myglove on the field and be like
I'm dumb.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, when you start getting beat Real bad, at that
point you're just Basicallythere for pride, you know,
because you don't want to, youknow.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Especially when it's in your home.
It's like On your stadium too,and you're getting beat so bad.
That's like a whole extrafeeling.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
That is true.
That is so, so true.
Talk about being beat badly.
Denzel Washington was at.
He was on the red carpet at theKing's Film Festival and some
photographer, for for whateverreason, thought it was a great

(19:47):
idea to grab Denzel.
Oh no, and you can't hear whatDenzel is saying, but you can
clearly see from his bodymotions and probably even watch
his lips, that, yeah, he wasn'tvery happy about it.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
So I guess he did that because he wanted to get a
better picture.
Denzel kind of went off, onwhich I don't blame him, and
then when denzel turned around,this crazy photographer grabbed
him again what the heck?
so then not only does they'll gooff again, but now you know, I
don't know if that was securityor just another person ever

(20:23):
someone else kind of stepped in,kind of like dude, what are you
doing?
I mean, I get it, that's yourjob, you want to take pictures
or whatever, but you shouldn'tbe putting your hands on no one.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
No, I don't think you should lay a hand on it at all.
I didn't see the actual clip.
Did you see, if he like?
How did he touch him the firsttime?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, basically what he did the first time, you know,
he just kind of grabbed him alittle bit and you know, denzel,
like don't do that.
You know, yeah.
And then when denzel walks away, you know he takes his arm,
kind of like it cuffs it intoone arm to pull him back, and
it's like dude, not only did youdo it again, but this time it's
like worse that's so weird.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, that's very unprofessional and I feel like
you shouldn't.
You shouldn't touch them at all, not even like a light gesture.
I feel like that's very odd andI feel like most people would
know that and I took my hat offto Denzel Washington for being a
gentleman, being professional.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
So let's face it, there are some entertainers that
they would have swung at thisguy.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, will Smith, I don't know what Will Smith would
do.
Yeah, yeah, will Smith, I don'tthink a lot of people want to
know what Will Smith would do.
Yeah, and it's just alsosetting the precedent that if
you have like one person doingthat, then when he steps down 20
feet later, other people aregoing to like treat him, you
know, like a piece of meat andbasically be like pawing at him
and all that stuff.
And I think that I would haveto think though, on the
sidelines of those awards, theyprobably would would have to me.

(21:47):
I would think a lot of security, let alone like denzel's
everyone brings their privatesecurity and also like the whole
award show would have someone.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Um, but yeah, if I was like the event organizer and
I found out that one of myphotographers did that, I would
that person would be gone oh,exactly, and I don't know what
he's thinking to do that because, no, you know again, with all
the cameras and everythingaround you, you can't lie and
say you didn't do it, becauseeverybody sees you doing it.
But you know, the thing is thatDenzel is very professional,

(22:14):
one of the nicest people towardsthe pop-ups and stuff.
He's never had an issue withthem.
But to put your hands out andjust grab him, that's just
uncalled for.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
There's zero, you know, to put your hands out and
just grab him.
That's just uncalled for.
There's no, ever put your handson anyone exactly.
I don't even think even like alight touch to anyone.
I feel the only thing I couldsee at all is if you're the one
interviewing them and like yougo to say have a great time and
you're like okay, like thanks,then you know you for a second.
You like their shoulder, but Iprobably wouldn't even try to
like shake hands with them or,you know, maybe I would like
fist bump or something, but Ifeel like most times they don't

(22:46):
want to be, and not even justbecause they're celebrities,
just because they're likemeeting a thousand people that
day, and there's like a sea ofpeople that most people don't
want to like be shaking handswith 100 people at night or be
touched by people they don'tknow.
And yeah, I definitely don'tthink that's like a celebrity
stuck up thing.
I think that's just the generallike don't give me my space

(23:06):
type of thing.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Oh, exactly, exactly, and you know.
The other thing too is you'vegot to be careful because you
know, if that were to happen toooften, then what happens is all
the reporters and cameramen andstuff starts getting pushed
back further away.
Yeah, you actually make it badfor everyone when you do that.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Right, yep, yeah, no, I've seen videos too of like
who's the?
Oh, hillary Duff, like the, youknow the star Hillary Duff that
she'll like go up and try toget paparazzi even to stop
taking pictures of her kids, andthey're like up against the
kids like by an inch and they'renot touching them but they kind
of are like so in their faceand I just think that gives a

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bad name for a lot ofphotographers.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
That's true, that is true, and you know the vast
majority of them don't do thatkind of nonsense.
It's just a small percentage.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's also.
I feel like it's almost that.
Don't take my kindness forweakness, because things too.
Because I feel like Denzelcomes across as like
approachable and like such anice human that I think
sometimes people may thinkthey're able to like maneuver
him around, but they probablywouldn't do that to like an Al
Pacino or you know someone I'mtrying to think of someone that
like seems a little bit morestandoffish and stuff, and so

(24:21):
yeah, yeah, that's true, that'strue.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
And, let's face it, there are some stars that they
probably would never put theirhands on, because they know that
, yeah, they're looking for afight anyway.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
I'm trying to think of who like.
Right away they would know okay, don't do this, don't touch me.
Who do you think would be likeif you saw them on a red carpet?
Who would you be like?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
okay, I'm definitely not going to touch them I would
say, if I had to pick, I wouldsay 57 would be one.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Oh, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
And let's see who else I don't know.
What do you think about JackKlugman?
I'm probably butchering hislast name.
What's he in?
Or what's he the one who playsWolverine?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh, hugh Jackman, Hugh Jackman, I'm sorry, yes.
That's so funny because he lookslike he'd be kind of scary, but
then he's in all these Broadwayshows, so he almost like to a
detriment.
I feel like he almost he's likeRyan Reynolds, where they like
pretend they're like the supernice guy.
So I feel like they're almostlike pretend sweet.

(25:34):
So if anything he would besmiling and be like get the hell
off me, you know.
So I'd be afraid of Ellen,because I'm like we can't even
look her in the eye.
She's like a devil spawnbasically.
So yeah, I'd be afraid of Ellen.
I would never touch Rihanna too, because I feel like she would
just look me up and down and Iwould melt into a puddle.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Oh, I know who would hit that photographer if he
would have grabbed Nicki Minaj.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely would have grabbed.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Uh, nikki minaj, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely totally
yeah, hopefully he got, helearned his lesson, because, uh,
like I said, that's justridiculous yeah, definitely he
knows better than that, yeah,yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
And also like they're not yours, amanda, and that
shows you're not good at yourjob, because a good photographer
should be able to lead andguide someone without touching
them.
Even when you think of fashionmodels, I mean, every now and
then they'll let go and they'llhave people to fluff up their
hair or put a powder on them,but it's not like you're not
just like, yeah, you're nottreating them like a piece of

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meat.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
That is so true, that is so true, that is so true.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
You know who?
I don't think.
I think Michael B Jordan wouldbe nice.
If he wanted to, he could Punchthem to the moon.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
True, very, very true .

Speaker 2 (26:51):
He has enough bicep power that I wouldn't want to
mess with him.
That's also just me crushing onhim Because I just saw sinners.
Okay, oh, I love this one, okay.
So the Scripps NationalSpelling Bee celebrated its
100th anniversary this week.
The annual competition wherestudents put their spelling

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skills to the test began in 1925when only nine newspapers
hosted a spelling bee.
So this is so cute that onlynine spellers participated in
that competition.
And now, since then, millionsof spelling enthusiasts have
participated since then.
What I thought was reallyinteresting about all of this is
that there was an article onNPR where they spoke with the

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champions from differentgenerations to see how the
competition has impacted theirlives and kind of like, oh,
where are they now?
And just you know?
Really briefly, I thought thiswas so cool where a lot of them
one of them is pursuing a doublemajor in computer science and
linguistics in Austin.
One of them is oh yeah, this isamazing.

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One of them is now aneuro-oncologist who specializes
in the treatment of brain andspine tumors.
So obviously a smart cookiefrom the beginning.
And now they're uh, john paola,who won the 50th national
spelling bee in 1977, went tobecome a veterinarian, based in
annapolis, maryland.
So I think that's so cute, likeyou know.

(28:20):
I think I would.
I know there was a movie aboutspelling.
I forget what it was called,but there was a big spelling
being oh, spellbound.
It was a documentary Spellbound.
But I would love to see a wholeother movie just about these
people and like how it affectedtheir lives.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Oh, absolutely.
That would be a great, greatfollow up, because just a little
bit you said right there justshows that you know these people
, that you know these kids thatparticipate in this.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
you know are very, very smart, very intelligent,
very focused too it's almost alost art now because we have
chat gbt and I definitely likeuse that all day long.
I use spell check and so Ithink we're all getting a little
rusty in our ability toremember how words are spelled.
So I think that's like such acool thing and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I love that oh yeah, and also it just shows people,
especially young people, thatyou know what.
Yes, it is a good thing tolearn how to do math.
It is a good thing to figureout how to spell.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Too bad and I don't know.
I don't think it'll come backto schools, but it would be nice
if signature being able to docursive went back into the
schools.
But I don't think that's comingback, but it would be nice if
that came back.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
I know we had a girl that I went to school with a
girl named Marcy Houck and shewas like I was trying to find
out before this, but she wentreally really far in it.
I think she may have even wonsome national thing and I just
remember I was lucky or we were,she was lucky slash, we were
all lucky that even at that time, like we didn't tease her for

(30:03):
being a nerd or dorky, likeeveryone in my school thought
that was cool, that we had aspelling bee champion, and so
you know like cause I'm likeokay, that could be teased or
people could think that's likelame or whatever.
But I remember maybe that's,maybe I'm just a dork, but like
all of my friends were likethat's amazing.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
You, my friends were like that's amazing.
You know, oh, absolutely, Imean, you know, not only
represent yourself, but yourepresent your school too.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, and something I liked about the spelling bee at
least the one she went to, Iremember is that it was
represented by like a lot ofethnicities and people from
different locations anddifferent, you know, types of
schools private schools, publicschools, like I like that.
It definitely seemed likeeveryone had something in common
and they just were goodspellers and I remember like
thinking that was very cool.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Absolutely.
Who knows?
We may be watching our nextpresident, our next congressman
or congresswoman and not evenrealize it.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh yeah, oh my God.
I thought you meant we're goingto have to watch Trump to
expelling me.
Oh yeah, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I thought you meant we're going to have to watch
Trump do expelling me.
You know what?
I know this is horrible, but Iwould watch that.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Me too.
I mean, despite the sad news afew weeks ago, I actually
probably would have watched aspelling bee with Joe Biden and
Donald Trump.
If there was ever a time tojoin all of America together,
that would have been it.
Instead of the debate, we wouldjust do a spelling bee.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
That would be hilarious, I know.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I think of all the presidents, I feel like Obama
would probably do the.
I could see him doing the bestin like the spelling bee, like
we didn't I remember was itGeorge Bush or like the vice
president, dan Quayle.
Someone spelled potato wrongand feel like I don't trust
Hillary and so, yeah, I feellike my money would be on Barack
to spell the best, I think.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, that was actually the vice president that
did that.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
That was Dan Quayle.
Yeah, which I mean.
I'm not that much better.
I just spelled sillier thingswrong than potato, so I can't
judge.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
But what was so crazy about that moment was the kid
actually spelled it correctly.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
And he corrected the kid.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
That doesn't sum up just politics in general.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm like, ooh, that's crazy.
That reminds me of thatcommercial.
You remember the Southwestcommercial Want to Get Away?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, yes, so this is also if people are parents of
young kids and they like tospell, I feel like that's like a
talent to nurture.
I feel like that's super cooland it's kind of a hobby that
you know.
I have a feeling that it mightnot take, that it doesn't come
with a lot of equipment needed.

(32:44):
You could practice it at yourhome.
It's not a lot of like, youdon't have to invest a lot, just
a lot of time and energy.
But it's like you're not buyinga tuba for them or something
huge, you're just spelling.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
That is true, that is definitely true.
But yeah, I think it's a coolthing that they've celebrating
their anniversary.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I do too.
I think that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Talk about awesome or maybe not so awesome.
Our wonderful president,president Trump, has just
threatened to impose a 50%tariff on Apple.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Oh my god, I can't, I really can't.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
So let's just analyze this.
Now.
Apple phones are made in China.
Right, apple has committed tospending about $5 billion
investing into the United Statesyou know billing certain things
over here.
So they're looking at trying tomove the Apple products from

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China potentially to Singapore.
Now, even if Singapore stillhas a tariff, just like China
and everybody else.
It's significantly less.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
So this 50% tariff until they move the iPhone less,
yeah, yeah, so this 50% tariffuntil they move the iPhones.
And estimates and this is anestimate here iPhones can go up
to be potentially over $3,500each.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh no, then we would welcome flip phones back again.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I'm getting the nokia with something, or whatever I'm
getting and here's the thingyou know when you're talking
about building a facility.
This is a high-tech facility, soit's not something that can be
built in a year yeah so ifyou're talking years away, even
at an accelerated rate and youknow, I know we talked about it

(34:42):
a few times there are productsand this iphone may be one of
them where it is so cheap tobuild outside the united states
that even if you doubled theprice, it still wouldn't be
worth building here in theunited states, if that makes
sense exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, I mean, that is just like I.
I can't imagine he would dothat for the sheer unpopularity
of it, because you know so manypeople have an iphone, no matter
what, how they vote or whatthey vote, and I feel like that
people would just be so mad athim that I really do feel like
that would sway people, right orwrong, that would like not have
people vote for a certain party.

(35:17):
If like iphone, if we thinkeggs are a topic of situation,
if iPhones are $3,500, peoplewould just go back to vote the
other way.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Exactly.
The thing is that, whether welike it or not, phones are a
part of our life.
It's like having a minicomputer in your pocket.
You have your whole life onthat phone.
So the idea of jacking thisprice up and, you know, with the
tariffs I don't know if you'vebeen watching it or not, but

(35:51):
it's like one minute they startto do tariffs it's like okay,
we're going to hold back andthen the markets go up and down
and it's like you know, you kindof wonder do they know what
they're doing?
or is there another game to this?
Because I remember the firsttime these tariffs came out,
trump had made the comment oh, Iknow a lot of people made a lot

(36:13):
of money.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Oh, it makes you wonder.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
You know, and I'm not saying this is happening, but
you wonder is there somethingelse going on?
Because when you kind of gainthe stock markets like that,
people are rich.
They shouldn't be getting rich,you know yes yes, we're sure
you know.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Right Now.
I do wish, though, that, like Imean, I know we have Androids
and everything, but like I wishthere was a few other choices
besides Apple that were likejust as popular.
I know people say, wait, Iforget.
Do you have an iPhone or anApple?

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, I have an iPhone.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Okay, yeah, cause, like I understand, there's
Samsung, there's other choicesbut, like you know, they're not
as they're hard to use with alot of.
They don't sync up a lot oftimes with other iPhones and,
like when I was going back andwhen I had a something like a
razor or something, I had a noniPhone it was hard for me to
like send videos back and forthbetween iPhone people and my
friends got so frustrated that Ijust ended up like jumping ship

(37:10):
and succumbing to peer pressureand getting an iPhone.
So like as a not I don't have aMac, I wanted HP Chrome.
So, like as a non Apple-ishperson that's forced to have an
Apple, I wish the marketdemanded like other really good
choices that almost worked aswell as an as an apple.
You know, like I don't know,the other choices just kind of
seem subpar to me, or or they'rejust like not uh, I don't know

(37:31):
how to explain it, but but yeah,basically I wish there was
other choices besides apple.
I know there are a lot, butthey don't seem to like hold up
very competitively you know, onephone that I'm surprised is not
around and I actually loved ityou remember the BlackBerry.
Yeah, I love the BlackBerry.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I had a BlackBerry for a long time before they went
out and I love my BlackBerry.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
It's actually my phone, me too.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm actually surprised that they're not still
in business.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I think in other countries like it's like people.
People have different types ofphones with ease.
I feel like we're just likesuch a predominantly apple
person.
But like I'm, I would be happyto like go away from the apple
brand.
I just haven't found acompetitor yet that is like just
as suitable from the Applebrand.
I just haven't found acompetitor yet that is just as
suitable.
I had a friend that was like,if you don't get rid of that
green text, she was like I willbuy you an iPhone.
I had friendships that werethreatening to leave me if I

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didn't get an iPhone, which isbeyond a first world issue.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, this is a little side note, but I kind of
wish that after you've had yourphone a while and you know,
suddenly starts acting up andyou need to upgrade.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
You know, wink, wink, you know yep, exactly yep, and
the batteries always go down.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
And then yeah, because you know, and you know
it's like right after your phoneis either just about to be paid
off or it's right after you payit off.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Exactly, yeah, and I know people make movies from
their iPhones, but to me thecamera still isn't that great
for me and I feel like from theiPhone 10 on or 8 on or whatever
, I haven't really seen thatmuch of a huge difference of
what's happening.
So of course I don't want anytariffs on it, but I'm also
saying as someone that wouldlike happily non to be

(39:26):
non-iponed.
I would welcome it oh yeah,definitely.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
But you know, the thing is is that if they go
through with this 50 tariff, whoknows it may open the door for
other for other things that,because one thing that we we
keep forgetting is that thereare a lot of different companies
outside of the United Statesthat just don't do business here
.
Yeah, totally.
So it may open the door topotential competitors that we're

(39:53):
not even aware of.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Exactly yeah, because it's also like I love Google
and everything you would thinklike, ok, a Google phone, but
then the Google phone is so hardto navigate in a world where
there's so many iPhone people,so it's almost like we would
need something that, like thetext, doesn't look green and
weird, but you can't look like aweird outsider, you know?
True, okay, well, that'ssomething to keep an eye on.

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Now this is I don't know ifthese are our kind of people,
but there was a good story aboutthem.
So a couple spoke out after adramatic rescue by Carnival
Cruise ship crew, and when I saythey're not our type of people,
I mean they seem like lovelyhumans, but they it was Dustin
Leonard and Helena Framejack.

(40:39):
They set sail on a journey of alifetime, so they were traveling
the globe on a catamaran I knowwe talked before about like
we're not about to jump in aship and basically go to sea.
They were joined by two crewmembers and their three dogs,
and they had a dream to try tosail around the world, and they
got off to a bumpy start.
So pretty much the crew wereheading to Fiji when a violent
storm struck.

(41:00):
This really sounds like a wholemovie, you know.
So it stripped the mast offtheir vessel and left them
stranded and battered bytowering waves more than 170
nautical miles from an island.
And then everyone was scared,of course.
They shot a flare in the skyand then they noticed a carnival
cruise ship in the distance andthen, following a five-hour

(41:22):
diversion, the captain of theship pulled over and rescued
them and their dogs, and thenthe dogs were like taken on the
cruise ship and of course, theywere like the biggest
celebrities on it.
So they took them from the boatand then got on a carnival
cruise.
I think it's kind of cute,because carnival was like uh,
they just the couple, just gotengaged now and they were saying
like maybe they should getmarried on a Carnival boat.

(41:45):
But like I don't know, maybeI'm just like beyond callous at
this point, but I'm just kind oflike you set sail in a
catamaran with your dogs, likeinto Fiji.
I'm just like what do you thinkwas going to happen?
I don't know.
It just seems a little like, oh, shocking that like you
encountered a storm.
I've watched too many movies tonot be like I don't know, to be

(42:09):
apprehensive about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, that's true.
I mean they do have the rightidea that, hey, if they could
weather that, they could weatheranything.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I know, I know, but it just seems like I feel like
you could sail around the but inlike a boat that you know like,
sail around in carnival or likea yacht, I don't know, just
sailing around in like a boatthat immediately gets destroyed
with your like, putting yourdogs at risk and everything I'm.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
I'm just like I'm side-eyeing these people a
little bit, yeah I mean it'skind of weird to have your dogs
in a boat with you.
You know, just saying I mean Ican see if it's like.
I mean, even if it was a yacht,I wouldn't want to bring my dog
with me.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
And if the Carnival cruise boat didn't come, like
they might have all passed away.
You know, like that's just veryI don't know.
I don't know.
I'm sure they put up safetymeasures, but it's a little
annoying to me.
I don't know why, but it's likeI don't know.
It just seems like, oh yeah, wecould.
It's like that we talked aboutwith people hiking on Mount
Everest and everything, and thenall of a way, it's just like

(43:13):
what did you think was going tohappen?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
You know this is a little weird, that's true, and
you know there are a lot ofthrill junkies out there that
would do stuff that the averageperson wouldn't even think of
doing.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Right, right, and that's cool for them to like
want to sail around, but it'sjust like one storm comes and
blows it all away and I'm't knowwhy.
I'm slightly annoyed.
I'm glad they're okay, but I'mjust not in the mood.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah that's true.
But you know the Crayton thing,Meryl.
Something tells me they'reprobably going to try it again.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
A hundred percent, yeah, but it's like just then
get like a thicker boat orsomething you know.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
This is good PR for Carnival, because now they can
say that they rescued people atsea and they were dog friendly
and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
That is so true that is so so true.
So yeah, Heads off to Carnivalfor doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, we love it.
And if you're going to sailaround the world with your dogs
just like maybe I don't know,get more of a, like a tight, I
was going to say don't get aTitanic-type boat.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Talk about a Titanic situation Recently, french
President Emmanuel Macron.
He's downplaying, being shovedright before he gets off the
plane.
Now, for, for people that havenot seen this in which I'm

(44:42):
surprised if you didn't, becauseit's all over there right now
uh, I want to say where was hegoing?
He was getting off the planesomewhere I forgot what country
it was and they opened the doorand you can see him talking to
someone, but you can't see whoit is.
A few seconds later you justsee two hands, just push his
face out.

(45:03):
And then he turns around.
You can see he's startled, he'sshocked, and then he plays it
off and starts waving.
And then a few seconds lateryou find out who the person is
it's his wife, because she comesout with him.
And then what makes it evenworse is when they're coming
down the stairs.
You know he reaches out to grab, you know, to escort her down

(45:25):
the stairs, and you know shekind of basically just ignores
him and just holds on to therail and goes out of the stairs.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Oh my gosh, Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
All relationships have their ups and downs.
So often you fight or whatever.
But there's a few things cometo mind here.
What do you think, Meryl?

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Oh my gosh, absolutely I get unbelievably
mad at my boyfriend.
We're to the point where I feellike I'm about to burst open
because I'm so upset, but Iwould never, I have never and
would never hit him in the face.
I'm sure upset, but I wouldnever, I have never and would
never like hit him in the face.
Or you know, like I'm sure,maybe if I found out like he
cheated on me or something,maybe I'd like I don't even know
if I'd slap him, then I wouldjust leave.
But like, but I feel like likehurting someone is just kind of

(46:06):
a new level of weird.
You know, man or woman is justkind of like not nice to slap
your partner.
So I feel like that's weird.
But who knows, I mean I don'tknow how playful or not playful
it was, but yeah, that justseems like so embarrassing to
have to then cover it up and belike, okay, everything's fine,
oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
At first they said that it was a fake video, it was
AI generated, oh really.
And then later on they had to.
You know, he had to fess up andlike oh, my God.
But up and like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
But you know, we just played around, you know
whatever, and like dude, no,that wasn't playing.
Yeah, which is kind of like.
I feel like if you're at thepoint where you're hitting your
partner, like you, some bigthings are going on.
You know, like if you're likeslapping your partner, that just
seems like very a lot of thingslike seem like they're not in
place oh yeah, and here's thething I get it.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
They're a married couple and you know, a lot of
crazy stuff happened behindclosed doors.
But yeah but your husband isactually the leader of a country
too.
Is that I know every?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
person I know and you're supposed to like be
dignified and have class, likein you know.
I think that's one thing aboutthe royal family is, even though
they're nuts, like they're,they still like even just act
prim and proper, at least likein you know, in public.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah, I know some people are going to get upset at
this statement, but I have tosay it.
And one of the womeninterviewed made a comment as
well.
You know, if it had been theFrench president who did that,
you know I'll be the first onepicketing.
I'm like, hey, you know, youknow that was wrong, you know
you need to step down, blah,blah, blah.

(47:42):
But you know, what's hurt isthat I got a problem with that.
So why is it OK for a woman toput her hands on a man?
And obviously you have aproblem with a man putting his
hands on a woman.
To me, no one should be puttingtheir hands on each other, I
agree.
I mean, am I a dinosaur forthinking that way?

(48:03):
I mean, I don't know?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
No, I don't think so at all.
I just think like, yeah, Idon't think so whatsoever.
I don't think that it should beokay, and also, in all the
relationships I've been in, youshould hopefully not have
moments where, like, it gets tothat point or you have reasons
to hit someone like my, my momwas like never, ever, ever, ever
, ever do that to my dad andvice versa, and that's just,
yeah, that's so weird.
The only time, though, is thatwe still don't know what happens

(48:27):
, but that that or what actuallyhappened.
But remember, there was someBeyonce's sister was beating up
Jay-Z in the elevator and, like,I feel like that maybe he
cheated on her, and Beyonce'ssister was like I'm going to
give, and then, when theelevator's doors opened,
everyone just walked out, likethat's not right, but I can see

(48:48):
if, like, if you're my sisterand you just, and you cheated on
her and like broke her heart,and then, when the elevator's
closed, I'm going to like, kickyour ass, you, her, and like
broke her heart, and then, whenthe elevator's closed, I'm going
to like kick your ass.
You know, like, of course,that's not right, but I can see
that being like, you know, likesomething that's like so heated.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah, and actually that's a good example you
brought up.
Now the one thing about it,jay-z didn't hit back or
anything, but Jay-Z is a muchbigger person than her sister.
Now here's the question whathappens if she was a bigger
person?
Because you know there's somewomen out there that are big and
you know he's starting to hurtyou, would he be in the wrong to

(49:26):
protect himself?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I know, maybe not, I know exactly.
Or if, like, beyonce was theone that was cheating and
jay-z's brother was the one thatdid, yeah, I just think to me,
like hurting your partner oranyone, like slapping anyone in
the face, is not a good, not agood idea for the most part.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Of course there's exceptions, but yeah, and
actually the French president,and I probably know more than I
ever probably should about theirrelationship.
She is 72.
She's 24 years older than him.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
You know, to each his own.
But what makes it kind of weirdis they met when he was 15 and
I think he was like a teacher ofhis.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, kind of a weird situation.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, kind of a weird situation.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
You know what I mean, I know and I was almost trying
to think, okay, is that an oldergeneration thing?
But like I could have neveralso seen any of my grandmas
slapping my grandpas, or youknow only though, like maybe if
they found out that like one ofthem cheated or something like
in the height of a moment, I'mlike you did this, you know,
know, and then slapping them,but like just a normal, everyday

(50:38):
kind of fight or argument?
I don't think so.
And also you're like the headsof France, like go be cool.
Like I don't know you have allthe money and power in the world
.
Like go live a good life.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, that's true.
That is true, but yeah is Ithought it was a good idea to
just make up a lie, knowing youwere going to get caught.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, yeah, but that is so embarrassing that that
moment was totally caught on hisface.
It's almost a better angle, too, that you could just see her
reaching out and you can't seethe full thing happening.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, but.
Yeah, that was a weird thing,but it was so amazing.
Did you get a chance to see thevideo?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, oh yeah, I watched it a bunch of times.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
And his expression was priceless.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
I know you could tell it's like everything's fine,
Everything's fine here.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
And then you know I get it.
You know you try to keep yourcomposure but you're still angry
.
But she didn't have to do thatthough she didn't have to just
when he put his arm out.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
He just, she, just like walked away she didn't do
that you know, we've all beenlike and of course, this is not
even close to it, but there wasone time that we were meeting my
boyfriend, I were meetingpeople for a double date and we
got into a huge fight on the waythere and I just I walked up to
the double date and I announcedwe're fighting really bad,
because everyone understands, asa couple, there's times that

(52:03):
you're just like.
You cannot fake it and you needto like.
You both arrive somewhere andyou're like I hate you, I
actively hate you, you know, butI still wouldn't hit someone in
the face.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I'm quite sure your boyfriend wasn't happy at that
moment when you did that no, no,we both distanced.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
We were in Barnes and Nobles and I went off with the
girl and he went off with theguy of the group and we
separated, for our double datewas just us taking time from
each other.
But then you think, okay,that's what you trade when
you're a public figure is youkind of have to make sure all
those moments happen at home.
And you're kind public figureand you kind of have to like
make sure all those momentshappen at home and you you're

(52:38):
kind of acting all the time.
You know you're like out,that's your job.
As you're out, you're actinglike a dignified human that is
true, that is so so true.
Hopefully, hopefully they madeup?
Yeah, hopefully.
Well, my last one is aninteresting one, I think.
To me the uh american musicawards, the amas, just happen

(53:00):
and it's so funny like I feellike a lot, especially on tiktok
.
I feel like tiktok is where Ikind of tend to get my like pop
culture heartbeat, you know.
So if anyone hears otherwise,feel free to always like let us
know.
But to me on tiktok people weresaying that it was like the
worst show ever and it was kindof a flop.
It happened in Vegas.
It just happened over thisweekend, on Monday in Vegas,

(53:24):
very interesting, as a lot ofthe big stars like Taylor Swift,
billie Eilish, people, theyweren't there.
The nominees I think SabrinaCarpenter was another one,
beyonce was absent, billieEilish, as I just just mentioned
, they were all absent from theevent and the guest list instead
of um, more like musicians, itfeatured a lot of influencers

(53:46):
which tiktok was talking about,where it was like who are these
nobodies at the amas?
Now, you know it's a bunch ofinfluencers.
Uh.
Which made it kind of worse isthat the event was hosted by
j-lo, who like uh, I don't knowthis is, I don't know if this
really helped her, but basicallya lot of her.
Um, her first dance was kind ofcringy because she made out

(54:07):
with her male and female dancersand then, um, but she did try
to do like.
Her beginning dance was kind ofinteresting, where she tried to
like she took all the nomineessongs and danced like them, you
know.
So she was dancing like charliexcx and billy eilish and I'm
like that's cool.
You know she was showing herrange of talent.
But a typical j-lo fashion.

(54:28):
It just like came out to not gowell and people weren't talking
about it.
So I guess like, oh, and thenthe other.
But the last thing why thepeople were saying it's a flop
is that, um, blake Shelton andGwen Stefani, like their
performances weren't even there.
They weren't even thereperforming, they just like cut
to a video of them somewhereelse on like a different stage.
So people were like what isthis now?

(54:50):
I guess, like the AMAs used tobe obviously really big, that
was when a lot of thingshappened and that's when, like
taylor, swift used to give a lotof announcements.
Now it does feel like thegrammys have still held up and
are still talked about a lot andeven, like, as far as award
shows, the oscars are talkedabout.
Um, it also seems like thecountry music awards have gotten
a little bit bigger.

(55:10):
Like no one ever used to careabout them and now they're cool.
So I guess, like, do you careabout them and now they're cool?
So I guess, do you care aboutthe AMAs?
Or have you heard anythingabout that?

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Honestly, I kind of forgot the AMAs.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
It all seems to blend together too.
There's like the BillboardMusic Awards and the Grammys and
this and that.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
And you know, I watched the American Music
Awards and I gotta tell you,Meryl, it wasn't horrible, but
it wasn't great either.
It was okay.
Yeah, I guess because of theproduction that they're putting
on, you want more than just okay.
You know what I mean.
I know.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
I wonder at what point it happened, though,
because that is interesting thatBillie Eilish and Taylor and
Sabrina Car carpenter and allthese people like are not there.
It just it almost makes it seemlike something in high school.
That's like all the cool kidsare like, oh no, we don't go to
this anymore, you know, and nowit has like this stink on it.
Um, and I don't blame them forinviting influencers, because,

(56:12):
of course, like, that's who'sgoing to be getting views on it,
but maybe they could havedialed back a little bit,
because I definitely was seeinglike a ton of random influencers
there that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
But you know, the thing is is that when you're
looking at tv, tv is a totallydifferent platform than social
media.
Yeah, you can't have one wayout the other.
That's true, right.
Don't want to veer way too haveone way or the other.
That's true, right.
You don't want to veer way toofar one way or the other either,
because you're going toalienate a certain section of
your views.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Exactly.
And then it's like, okay, youwould think that you would do
the most of what you do have,which is like don't cut to a
random Blake Shelton performancewhile people are sitting in the
theater empty.
Oh my God, to a random BlakeShelton performance while people
are sitting in the theaterempty.
But, oh my god, I feel likethis was J-Lo's moment of being
like no one else is going to beat this award show, it's all me,
and like it does see, and I ama J-Lo defender from day one.

(57:10):
We know, even when people talkabout her, I still try to give
her credit, but her just kissingher dancers and just like, come
on, it just seems a little Idon't want to say desperate,
because any woman at any agecould do anything, but it's just
a little weird.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I think it was built to be one of those shock moments
.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
I know, and it wasn't at all We've moved past this.
Between Britney and Madonnakissing and there's other people
kissing.
It's kind of I don't want tosay it's gross, but it's just
like, oh okay, there's other bigthings people can do.
That would be a little bit moreshocking and the kiss itself
looked almost like a stage kiss.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
I know it's weird.
It's more weird than anything.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
That is true.
I was a little disappointedbecause I expected a lot more.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
I know lots of people also thought that this was
going to be the moment whereTaylor Swift announces her next
album that she's going to record.
People are like she's not aboutto do it at the AMAs anymore.
That just also goes to showthat it's not really like a big
industry driven event the waythat the grammys are, you know
that is true.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
That is so true because really after the, after
the event, it's not like thegrammys or oscars or anything.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
You really didn't hear anything about it no, no,
and I think also the fact thatit's in Vegas.
It's a little bit separatedfrom a New York or LA event, so
there's not that many afterparties that you hear about.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
That's true.
That's true.
Maybe they got the hint andthey'll do better next year.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Yeah, but I could just be like oh God, it's like
the whole J-Lo show.
J-lo should just take it over.
The AMAs should just be likeJ-Lo's party.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Now, the one thing that surprised me is I would
have thought that they wouldhave covered and maybe I missed
it, but they would have coveredevery genre of music.
But I noticed it seemed likerapping, rap or hip hop wasn't
really really.
And I could have missed itagain, but it just seemed like.

(59:22):
It just seemed like it was kindof cherry picking.
And you know also, you havejazz, you got blues, you got
gospel, there's all kinds ofdifferent music.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Oh yeah, definitely that's so interesting too.
Especially with all theinfluencers there, you would
think like rap and hip hop wouldhave a way more of a presence.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
So, yeah, I was very surprised at it, but I hope they
do better next year Because,like I said, this year was it
was.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I know, I know and it does.
Yeah, it looks weird when, like, the biggest performers in
music aren't there.
You know.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Yeah, actually that's to me that's a warning sign,
because if they aren't there,that should say something.
I know, yeah, speaking ofsaying something, this actually
follows up on something we hadtalked about in previous
episodes.
Illinois has just passed a newsquatters bill.

(01:00:17):
Oh, so the way the bill worksis that, let's say, a person has
a piece of property, a persongoes into the home.
If the owner can prove thatthey own that property and they
did not give that person accessor permission to be there, the

(01:00:39):
police do not have to wait to goto court and all this other
stuff.
They can arrest that personimmediately.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Hallelujah.
So I assume this would be afterthey give the notice.
They give like you have threedays to pay, you're going to get
evicted.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
No, no, this is for squatters.
Remember, squatters aredifferent.
Squatters don't supposed to bethere in the first place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Oh, but like oh, okay , but what if someone that used
to rent is a squatter Like youknow?
Like what if people are like oh, we rent the house, we just
haven't paid rent for likemonths?

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
No, that's different.
You still have to go throughthe courts.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Oh, okay, that's annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
These are people that illegally get access to it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
It's just like there's a random man living in
our house.
I get it.
I hope that they make it alsobad for people that just don't
pay their rent for months.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, that one there is kind of difficult because
they've had to do thisbeforehand.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Wow, well good, I mean, that's really weird and
scary if you own a property andyou have, like someone that's
just there like squatting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Oh, not only that, but it's expensive too, because
they basically force you to kickout a person that's not
supposed to be there in thefirst place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I know, yeah, it's not supposed to be there in the
first place.
I know, yeah, I do hope, though, as well, that, with that being
done like if I was, if I hadthat, if I had a house and I had
squatters, I would like hopethat they had they also gave
them like a lot of resources,because I just wouldn't want to
kick out a family that, like,just doesn't have a place to
live, or you know what I mean.
Like I would like that personto be provided with ample
options of shelter and a placeto go, because, chances are, if

(01:02:17):
they are squatting, some arejust horrible people, but some
are just trying to not be in thecold weather and have an actual
roof over their head.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
To me it depends, because I know they had a
special on Channel 7, because Ilike watching Channel 7, which
is ABC, and they were showinghow squatters had moved into
houses that were rehab, ready togo on the market to be sold.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
God, and they were trying to extort the owners of
the property, saying well, hey,if you give us $5,000, $10,000,
we'll leave.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Unbelievable, and that's a different level of like
insanity.
I'm almost talking aboutsomeone that's like I spent the
night here because it's likezero degrees in chicago and I'm
about to freeze to death.
You know what I mean.
Like that type of thing versussomeone that does that and
that's like so you don't realizethat those people have put
their money into a house, too totry to make it good.
Those people might not be richand it might be their

(01:03:18):
hard-earned money, and even ifthey are rich, it's still not
your business and so, yeah,that's unbelievably crazy.
That is, to me, such a bigcrime if someone does that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Oh yeah, in fact when they did the report she had
shown multiple people that hadsquatters break in and get more
residence, and literally inabout two or three of those
houses it was the same personthat was doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, see, that's a very low type of human that
would do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah, and again one person was saying they were
literally out $10,000 to just gothrough the legal portion of it
and then it cost them thousandsmore because they trashed the
place before they left.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Oh my God, See, I feel like that has to have such
repercussions of like I mean,yeah, that should be jail, Like
it really should.
You are, like you are causingdamage and you are, like you
know, doing that kind of stuff.
So, yeah, damage to propertyand yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, so I applaud it personally.
And you know, the sad part is,Meryl, is that if people would
have put the same resources intodoing something positive,
trying to take their life in apositive way instead of trying
to flick, instead of trying tosteal from someone, and all this
, you'd be amazed at howsuccessful you'd be.
Because the average person whorents out, uh, or you know,

(01:04:39):
tries to flip houses or whateverthese aren't rich people, these
are just people trying to getahead.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
you know Exactly and like, even if it is a rich
person, maybe that person likesold you know a product that
they worked on forever and theyjust got a lot of money that way
.
It doesn't necessarily makethem bad.
And so, yeah, that's definitelyif you're squatting and you
need help, like for real, andyou know you really didn't need
like shelter over your head.
I still don't condone it, butthat's like a whole different

(01:05:07):
reason than just trying toextort someone and both aren't
right, but that's just.
I hate that type of human.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Yeah, that's true.
So I hate that type of human.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
And that's one of those like karma, like I hope
that person then has a housethat like someone else crawls
into.
You know, like it really islike parasitic.
It really is like a gross, likeparasite.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
That's true, that's true.
So I got to take a look at whenit becomes effective.
But you know my hat's off tothem because it was.
I can't speak for everyone else, but in Chicago and around
Chicago it was getting out ofhand big time.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
That makes me enraged .
That definitely makes me crazy.
It also makes me crazy likepeople Not if someone can't pay
their rent for a month or twoand they're behind.
That's way different thanpeople intentionally not paying
their rent for months and tryingto, like you know, do their
homeowners or something, Becauseit's like that's so selfish,
like not realizing that otherpeople have a mortgage, or

(01:06:05):
knowing it but not caring, andit's just like so unbelievably
low.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Oh yeah, or what's even worse is people that break
in and take up residence.
They're supposed to be there inthe first place.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
No, no, no, no's, like you're not, you're not
welcome to like all of us havingto annoyingly make money to pay
rent and you know all that kindof stuff Like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Well, talking about positive things.
So, merrill, what do you havecoming up?

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
I'm heated, I will be living in someone's house.
No, I'm just kidding.
My parents would be likeMeryl's, a squatter when she
comes to San Diego.
I squatted their house.
Let's see what new shows I'mgoing to promote, one a little
bit far off just because, ohokay, no, no, no.
The one I'm excited about isthat June 6th I will be in

(01:06:50):
Minneapolis.
So anyone that is in theMinneapolis area, there's a
comedy festival called Booms onthe Lake and I'm part of a
comedy festival, so I'm reallylooking forward to that.
So that's Friday, june 6.
Nice, I've been reallyresearching Minneapolis like St

(01:07:10):
Paul.
I don't think I've been therelike as an adult, so I'm very
excited to go to that city.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Sounds like it's going to be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yep, so I'm very excited.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Nice.
Well, everyone, this was a lotof fun today.
Thank you so much for watchingus.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
We had some great stuff, and I still have another
12 things that I could have said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I'm right out of time .
I know Always the case.
That is so true.
Thank you again, everyone, forwatching the show or listening
to the show of your own podcast.
We always have fun and we'reglad that you support us.
Make sure that you continue towatch and support us and tell
other people about us as well.
I am Lawrence Elbride.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
And I'm Meryl Clemo.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Take care everyone.
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