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Two friends reconnect over the airwaves as Lawrence shares exciting news about his cousin, Ashley Lauren Elrod, landing a role on the CBS show "FBI." Their celebration quickly shifts to a more sobering discussion about a 20-year-old college student who vanished while on spring break in the Dominican Republic, prompting a candid conversation about travel safety and the importance of looking out for friends in unfamiliar surroundings.

The duo doesn't shy away from controversial topics, examining a shocking incident at a high school track meet where an athlete deliberately struck another with a baton, causing a concussion. Their dismay deepens when they learn the race continued despite the assault, raising questions about sportsmanship, accountability, and the origins of such disturbing behavior in young people.

Listeners will find themselves nodding along as Lawrence and Meryl dissect the bizarre story of a naked woman delaying a Southwest Airlines flight. Rather than simply mining the incident for humor, they thoughtfully examine it through the lens of mental health while acknowledging the extraordinary challenges facing modern flight attendants who must serve as impromptu security personnel, psychologists, and crisis managers.

The conversation lightens as they debate the merits of Daylight Savings Time (they're both fans of the extra evening daylight) before diving into relationship boundaries when a boyfriend takes his girlfriend's best friend shopping without permission. The episode wraps with an exploration of "sleep maxing" trends and the viral "We Listen and Don't Judge" relationship challenge, complete with Lawrence's impressive revelation about laying out his clothes the night before—a habit that earns him Meryl's admiration.

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, this is Lawrence Elrod with Thirsty
Topics.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Meryl Clemo, also with Thirsty Topics.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Meryl, how are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh my gosh, I am good , my friend.
I just got back yesterday fromLas Vegas where I won a total of
$6.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I don't mean to brag on here, but hey, anything other
than zero is a win, right?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Exactly.
I think we actually probablylost about $ 500 in food and
just taxi cabs, but overall itwas very fun.
I stayed at Mandalay Bay and wehad a really good time.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Nice, nice.
Mine was just the regularday-to-day stuff here, but it's
actually pretty warm now.
It was in the 50s and actuallywe have 70s coming, I think,
this Friday.
Ooh nice, so finally gettingwarm weather, and I'm enjoying
that, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh, I love that.
It's so nice when it starts tofeel like that, when you get a
little spring in your step.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
We had another tiny earthquake here yesterday, but
it was so mild and once again Iwas just sitting on the couch
and it's like you just feelwhat's happening and you're like
, oh interesting, okay I don'tknow, does it seem like there's
been a lot more earthquakes now?
Yeah, it always seems like thathappens, where there'll be like
a few close and then nothingwill happen for a month but, or

(01:38):
a couple months but.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Must have been so small that they didn't even
report on it.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I know, yep, it was teeny tiny.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
It is a good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, we're going to start off on a great note.
This wonderful woman, her nameis Ashley Lauren Elrod.
She was actually interviewed onThirsty Conversations, which is
on LRodTVNetworkcom, and she isgoing to be on a CBS show

(02:12):
called FBI.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Cool.
Okay, now I have to ask thelast name is the same?
Is this a cousin?

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yes, Full disclosure.
She's my cousin.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yay, oh my gosh, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
So, yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
Obviously, depending on whereyou're at, the times may vary,
but she's going to be on Tuesday, march 18th.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Okay, okay.
Well, now tell us a little bitabout her.
Is she like an actress,full-time, or is she?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
she's an actress, she's also a producer director,
um, and she has a company calledum visionary woman, uh, which
is a production company.
So, um, you know, she actuallyhas a few projects that she's
working on for her company, andwhat's really really nice about
her is she's very down to earth.

(03:06):
She's been in the industry along time, both in front and
behind the camera, so she has alot of experience.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Oh my gosh Good.
And do you know anything abouther storyline?
Yet we can't tell anyone.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
You know what she didn't.
Let us know what the storylineis, yeah, which I can understand
because there's probably a lotof legality about you know,
we'll sue your family andeverything if you say yeah, it's
like, just so you know.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
This happens during the episode and it ends up this
way yeah, I can imagine.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
But yeah, I definitely wanted to start
everything off on a very, verypositive note.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
That is so cool.
Well, congrats to her, andwe'll have to watch.
I have not seen that show.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes, that definitely gives me a reason to watch it
too, so I know it sounds prettygood.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I feel like, especially now, all of those
like Secret Service, fbi, whiteHouse, like all those shows are
extra cool, like I'm extrainvested during this time.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Absolutely so.
Yeah, when it gets closer to it, I'll mention it again, but I
at least wanted to start offsharing the good news.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, when it's out, I will definitely watch it and
we'll recap it.
That's so cool.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah it's actually kind of nice to have someone you
know on a major network thatwas on the show.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
I know, now we also have to hear from her.
See, you guys are already close, but it's going to be funny
hearing from her who in her lifelike randomly, reaches out,
like hey girl, I just saw you onthis, or you know, because I
that definitely happens a lot,even like on a small scale.
If I post a comedy flyer orsomething people will be like
immediately I'll get a dm fromsomeone like hello, I'm like go

(04:39):
away.
So I could just imagine whenyou're on like a big show,
people are probably up yourbooty.
Well, that's so cool.
Well sounds like, uh, we'lldefinitely be watching a new
show and I look forward to that.
I'm getting ready for my.
My next topic.
I'm going to start out.
I'm not agree.
We're going to mine will be themost bummer one first and then

(05:01):
it will just get happier andhappier.
But, um, I don't know if you'veheard of there's a college
student that's currently missingAt this time.
When I last checked, she's stillmissing.
She's a college student fromPittsburgh, university of
Pittsburgh student, and shedisappeared last week on spring
break in the Dominican Republic,sudiksha Sunaki, a 20-year-old

(05:26):
United States resident.
She was last seen onsurveillance camera with seven
other people entering the beachat her hotel at 4.15 am and then
the story gets a little bithazy where, like, some of her
friends may have left her andthen there was one guy that I
think she was out with, and thenthe guy said that they were
kind of in the waves likegetting tossing and turning, and
then he went out to the beachbecause he wasn't feeling well

(05:49):
and then he slept on the sandand then when he woke up she was
gone and then at 4 pm that daythey called the police and
they've been looking for herever since, on like the air and
the sea.
They've been looking everywhere.
Um, I mean, don't you?
You feel like this happensevery couple of years, where
there's like a very shady storyabout and we don't know whether
it's like foul play or thelocals or something that's just

(06:14):
an accident.
You know there's alcoholinvolved with the ocean and so
it's very scary.
I can just imagine her parentsare not feeling very good.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Oh yeah, I mean, actually there's a few things
that played here not feelingvery good.
Oh yeah, I mean, actuallythere's a few things that played
here.
One to me, you really have tobe careful who you call friends
that you have.
Just someone calls you a frienddoesn't mean they're your
friend.
And then, plus too, you knowit's a shame, but you know,
every so often you hear aboutthese stories and you kind of

(06:43):
hope that there's no foul playinvolved, there's no human
trafficking involved.
Yes, because they're in adifferent country.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
And you know, sometimes you know youngsters
when they go out, especiallylike spring break or whatever,
they'll go to these places forthe very first time and they
might not be well aware of youknow, looking around, paying
attention to your surroundings,pay attention to people you call
yourself hanging with.
So you just hope it gets better.

(07:12):
But, man, these stories keepcoming up.
It's like every year, every twoyears, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know, remember the natalie holloway thing which was
like it got like so uh, twisted, and then if you're this guy,
that was if you're innocent, andyou're this guy, that was like,
seen last alone with her at 4am, that doesn't look great for
you.
If you're in the ocean and thenall of a sudden you wake up and
she's gone, like if it reallywas, that she unfortunately may
have drowned or something, butif not, like I would think that

(07:38):
a couple eyes would be on him,you know.
So I guess oh yeah, or you know,so I guess yeah.
Or it's just like a young woman.
She was only 20 by herself.
Um, it said she was with fiveother women and two men and they
were last seen drinking in thehotel lobby around 3 am and then
they went to the ocean at 4 amand it's just one of those
things that I feel like we'veall done it, like I've

(07:59):
definitely did stupid things inmy own college spring break, but
it's like as a parent, you justthis is your worst nightmare
and you just hope that peopleknow better, or just you know, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Just really a nightmare, oh yeah, and then
also too you know, if you'regonna be with a bunch of people
and you're drinking, someone hasto be the person who's, you
know, equivalent to an uh to adesignated driver.
In other words, they drink verylittle to nothing because
they're watching everyone elsein the group.
The whole group can't be drunkbecause something can happen and

(08:31):
no one honestly would know.
Someone has to be responsible.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I think the guys that they met, they met them at the
resort, which also is like thesearen't her friends from college
that she traveled with.
Those are random resort guys.
It's like you don't her friendsfrom college that she traveled
with.
You know those are randomresort guys.
So it's like you don't know ifthey have ulterior motives or if
they are just kind of stupiddrunk boys.
That just happened.
They really have nothing goingon with this other than just
kind of being there.
But they said the young manwith her have told police

(08:58):
multiple versions of whathappened so far.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's not a good sign.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I know, so we'll keep an eye out, but that's
definitely something that'sdeveloping yeah, we'll
definitely pray for her.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
And then, um, hopefully the news is positive.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, quality is that every day that goes by that you
don't hear from her, um,outcome is not going to be good
I know the good thing, not inthis case, but like I feel like
if any generation has hope forbeing with their friends and
staying with them, I feel likeGen Z is actually really
responsible for the most part inthat way.

(09:37):
You know, I know we've talked afew times about people drinking
less and less and like theystill party, but I feel like a
lot of the young people are veryreachable in terms of saying
like hey, this happens, so youhave to keep an eye out for your
friends.
And it just seems like nowadays, because we hear these stories,
people are a little bit morehyper, vigilant and like can
actually, you know, know how howresponsible they have to be,

(09:59):
even when they're having fun.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
that's true that's true, so let's just hope that.
You know someone finds itwithin the next couple of days,
you know.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I think back to like I went to Jamaica for my
spring break and I just thinkback to like I was walking by my
oh, my mom's not listening tothis, but it's like I think back
to just walking by myself andit's like my friends didn't
really even leave me.
But it's kind of like everyonegoes on their own journey and
you know, some friend wasprobably hooking up with some
person and then the next thingyou know, you're like walking in
Jamaica alone.

(10:29):
It's just you're.
You're lucky that you land safewhen you're doing it.
I don't think people recognizehow dangerous it can be like
really anywhere, but especiallywhen you're by yourself in a
different country.
Oh yeah, I mean, when you getolder you think back to some of

(10:55):
the things you did.
I was like why am I in Jamaicacovered in foam, like walking
down a road by myself?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I feel like people probably drove past me and were
like, oh God, whatever'shappening, just drive faster.
Well, talking about ridiculous,and I don't know if this is a
sign of that time, but there wasa high school running meet, you
know where they had teams.
So you know, you run and thenyou pass a baton, you know, and

(11:19):
there were several teams and,for whatever reason, this high
school this is high school now,so they're kids, they're girls
she took her baton as she wasrunning and hit the other girl
in the head with it, and youknow, of course, the girl
dropped her baton and she felldown and the crazy thing about

(11:43):
it was they kept going with therace, they didn't stop.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
No, so everyone else kept going.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And you know the mom, you know she's watching in the
stands, so she's running outthere to the field.
She's horrified, and theamazing thing is that one they
should have stopped that raceright then and there because I'm
quite sure there was officialsthat saw that, yeah, or the
coaches saw that.
That's the one issue the girlwas out for a week because she

(12:11):
suffered a concussion.
Of course, because you knowthose batons are metal.
Yeah, I'm not sure, but they'remetal.
So she had a concussion forabout a week.
So hopefully I think she may begoing back to school tomorrow,
because they interviewed her andthe coach called, and the coach

(12:32):
of the opposite team where thegirl was on, and then also the
girl's father called andapologized to her mom and to the
girl for what her daughter did.
But the one thing thatsurprises me is that the girl
who did it didn't apologize.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Really.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Because they said that.
You know, they acknowledgedthat her father called to
apologize and there was astatement from the school.
The coach called, talked to him, apologized, but they didn't
get an apology from the girl.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And does this sound like it was purposeful?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Oh no, it was definitely purposeful.
It was purposeful, Okay, sothere's no saying, she hit her
like two or three times.
I mean no, that was no accident.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's one of those stupid like three-second things
that people do sometimes whereyou don't know that that can
like alter someone's life andalter your own life and alter
their life.
You know, like when you seelike a friend pushing someone
off a cliff into the ocean andthey're not ready yet or
something, and then that friendgets paralyzed and it's like you
didn't really you didn't thinkfor those three seconds.
Like this is one of thosethings where, whether she was

(13:37):
just being like a terribleperson or they had some beef or
something, it's like I don'teven think she thought of the
outcome that could happen notonly to this other girl but to
herself, like she's probably,you know, going to get in really
big trouble and that's that'scrazy.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's crazy and you know, being that she's a high
school student, I could be wrong, but for some reason she saw
this anger somewhere yeah,that's true you know where that
anger she saw.
I don't know and I don't wantto make any accusations, but
obviously she either saw thissomeplace or she has some

(14:16):
serious issues that she needs totalk to someone about yes
that's not normal for a highschool kid to do no, not at all,
especially with, like, someonethat should be your teammate.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't know if they have any outstanding on the
opposite team, oh, on theopposite team.
Okay, but it's like even that,even if you're a poor sport and
you're like super competitive,that's not any reason to hurt
someone.
And don't you think like insome sports sometimes they'll
take cheap shots at the otherplayers?
You know, like football orbaseball or something like

(14:46):
they'll do, or especiallybasketball?
They'll just do like a littleextra thing.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
But it's like you can't really do that when you're
running with a huge metal wandI mean you know, in some places
you know you'll be charged withassault, because that's the
assault with a deadly weapon.
If you think I think she should, you know I think she should.
I mean it was amazing to seeand you know, after the girl
fell down, I think get hit inthe head.
The girl hit her, just keptrunning and I'm like wow no way

(15:14):
I feel like she needs to be likesuspended.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't know someone like that.
That's such like scary butbratty behavior and like before
she goes out into the workforceor anything.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I think she needs to learn some lessons, and whether
that's like juvie or something,I don't know yeah I mean and
there are going to be somepeople that says, well, she's a
little girl, you know, give hera little bit of slack or
whatever.
But here's the only problem,and I get it.
I truly do understand that thatargument but there's something

(15:46):
to be said is suffer pain nowinstead of later yeah yeah,
understand the seriousness ofwhat she did.
The next time she doessomething, hopefully it doesn't
happen, but if she takes it tothe next level, guess what?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
her parents can't protect her right, yep, and, and
she needs to learn.
Like right now.
That's not okay, because she'slucky that, like the other
teammates, didn't turn and startbeating her.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
You know, like that I mean, it could have been a
brawl, if you think about ityeah, it could have been.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
All of a sudden, all you have these teenagers like
with wands and everything, andyeah, that's really nuts I have.
I didn't.
I saw that article but I didn'twatch it because otherwise I'll
get too mad and then I'll startto get like I don't know.
I feel like I err sometimes onpunishment even more than like I
don't know.
Not that I don't have empathyfor this person, but it's like

(16:35):
if you hit someone on the headwith a metal wand, you, you know
what's going to happen, and ifnot, then you should find out.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean one time .
You can argue back and forth,but not two or three times.
That was 100% intentional.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, and even like opposing teams, because I
know lots of people haverivalries or it's like this girl
talks a lot of smack to me whenI'm you know whatever.
I know that people are knownfor that, but then show her by
beating her.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
You know, not physically beating her, but like
by race beating her.
Oh, exactly, exactly.
So we'll definitely be watchingthat story, cause I'm kind of
curious to see what happens tothe other girl.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, that's reason number 800 that I don't do
organized sports.
I have no trouble hurtingmyself without someone doing
that with me.
That's so crazy.
Well, that sounds like sheneeds to go.
That girl needs to go on aflight with the woman from my
next story which I want them tobe stuck on a very small plane

(17:37):
together.
And I also just want to saythat this story was not me.
I did just fly Southwest to LasVegas on a short to say that
this story was not me.
I did just fly southwest to LasVegas on a short flight, but
the story was not me.
So thank you so much.
A naked woman on a southwestflight forces plane to return to
gate in Houston.
Passengers on a southwestflight just witnessed a very
disturbing incident when a nakedwoman caused a delay to their

(17:59):
flight this week.
So the flight was scheduled totake off at 2.55 pm but then had
to go back to the gate, whichis annoying.
So a woman stood naked and wenttowards the front of the cabin,
caused a scene for about 25minutes and then turned around
and stripped all of her clothesoff.
She obviously had to like shehad some mental issues.

(18:22):
You know this is.
It's sad because it's like thisperson.
There's a lot of funny thingsabout it and, of course, a lot
of jokes about like where is shekeeping her storage?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
or her, you know her.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
IDs or anything like that.
But then, when you watch thevideo, this seems like someone
who was not all there, how shegot on the flight and like made
it to be sitting on the actualflight.
I don't know, because that'sclearly someone that's under
duress and under a lot of stress, but then I guess they took her
off the plane, they made theplane go back to the original

(18:53):
city and then they took her to amental hospital, which is like
you know.
Of course, as humans, it'sridiculous to see someone strip
themselves naked and there'slike silly aspects of it.
But it's just yet anothermental illness thing that just
either seems to be on the riseor we're just seeing more of it,
but I don't know.
It seems like back in the daypeople weren't just like going

(19:15):
literally buck naked on flights.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well, the good thing was, the plane was still on the
ground.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, and it was like.
I think it was like circlingfor 25 minutes.
Now I would be.
I don't know how I'd feel aboutthis, because I already have
flight anxiety and I'm alwaysworried about Big other things
happening.
So I haven't yet put this on mycard About naked people.
So now I'm adding another listOf things to be terrified about.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, my thing is okay.
Who's going to grab her and puta coat on her, or something?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I know Well that's.
The other thing is that in thevideos and I understand this, I
understand this when most of thepeople you see everyone filming
from their phone and it takes areally long time for someone to
get her, and it's also youdon't know.
You don't know if she has aknife somewhere or you don't
know if, like, what's going tohappen or if this is part of
like a play.
You know, like, I think in thisday and age, we, we know what I

(20:10):
I don't blame people for notstepping up, but that also has
to be crazy.
If you're a flight attendantand that's just what you're
trying to get, people like hottea service, and then, all of a
sudden, now you have to like,wrangle a naked woman.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I mean, you know it's like.
It's like flight attendants nowhave to deal with so much.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, it's like their safety, airline safety but
they're also like babysitters,psychologists, accountants, like
waitresses, like now youresses,now police, basically.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Oh yeah, and I can just imagine the shock of
everybody, Like what the hell?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Right and I also feel like flying is such a right now
.
I mean, when I just flew itdidn't feel serious or as scary
as it did when I flew the dayafter the DC thing, but it felt
a little bit back to normal.
But already most people are alittle bit anxious, tensions are

(21:08):
higher than usual.
So it's like when somethinglike this happens, everyone is
just like, oh god, not anotherthing.
Yeah, and it probably kind offreaked people out when she was
banging on the cockpit door,though, yeah, and I was thinking
about this too, like I guessthere's no way to really tell if
anyone is mentally like healthyenough to get on it.

(21:29):
Like clearly, if someone'shaving a mental emergency,
they're not going to let them onthe flight.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
But I wonder I wonder , leading up to this, if there
was like visible signs at theairport terminal checking in
yeah, you kind of wonder, but Ido believe that there's
protocols in place, which isprobably why they reacted so
fast once she did start yeahpull off her clothes and banging
on the door.
So you know there's protocolsin place for the what ifs.

(21:55):
Because it seems like after um,after the pandemic, uh, most
people kind of went crazy sothey had to put that's true.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
That's true.
Remember there was like Iforget what it even was, but one
person got drug out by his legs.
Remember the people?
They were dragging people onplates.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Oh, remember the one person they literally duct taped
to his seat, that's right andit's like come on the whole time
I'm on a plane.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'm so anxious that I would.
I would dare not like even takelike my jacket off or I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
I'm just sitting there like, please, nothing
happened yeah, so uh, like Isaid, I don't know.
I think these flights andshould get more, more pay cuz
they do a lot more than justbeing a flight attendant so much
.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Also, my hot flying tip is that, especially if
people are going to go to Vegas,I flew on Thursday night and I
came back Saturday night andboth flights were half empty and
we got the rows to ourselves.
If you're not a big party, westill had Thursday night and
Friday night in Vegas.
So if you're not, if you'reokay with like not being there
on a Saturday night, the Vegasairport was completely.

(23:08):
It took us like five minutes toget through.
You know usually everyone's atthe Vegas airport and you're hot
and sweaty and hungover.
This one we got through in likefour minutes and we had row.
We each had a row to ourselves.
So's just a go home on saturdaynight.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Yeah now you know.
What's good, too is if you takereal early flights.
Um, yeah, because it's neverpacked on the early flight no
and they they're.
At that time, you're lesslikely to have delays that's
true.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
the only thing with that for me is I don't know if
you have this, but like I, thenight before I have those panic
dreams where I've like missed myflight.
You know, I wake up and I'malways like and it's 1am and
then I'm like, okay, like I keepwaking up every 40 minutes, so
I'm always tired, but yes.

(24:03):
I don't really sleep that welljust because I want to make sure
I'm not late getting to theairport and stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll dreamabout missing my flight and then
I'll wake up and it's 1230.
And then the last thing on thisstory, really quick, is that
people were, I guess, annoyedthat she wasn't charged for
criminal offenses.
But for me, like this seemslike a mental health situation
and like I don't.
I don't think someone's justrandomly getting up and getting

(24:24):
naked for the fun of it or liketo mess with people.
I think this seems like a ifthey, if they check it out, and
it is a mental health situation.
Like I don't think this personshould be charged criminally.
Do you think that too?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
yeah, I think that's a good point and I do, like I
said, it's hard to say becausethere's different ways of
looking at everything you know.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, totally, yep, and it's also just yeah, yeah,
it's another thing about likekind of our mental health crisis
that's happening and just it'severything at once.
Mental health flying, it's all.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, that's mental health flying, it's all, it's a.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, there is no magic way,like you said before, of knowing
if a person is going to have anepisode or not until it
actually happens.
Yeah, you know, you just haveto pray to god that they don't
do anything.
Crazy like, exactly like theone person who, uh, decided to
open the door.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Remember that.
Oh my gosh yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
While the plane was in the air.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, who are these people?
It's like it really is baffling.
And then you, you do have tolike there has to be something
where you can't just go backinto society in like four days,
you have to.
I don't know.
That's a really a big deal.
I also just think too, if thatwas my loved one, like the, the
woman that was like naked, andthat is sad, if that person does
have like schizophrenia orsomething, and now you're

(25:45):
watching like your loved one gomental on a flight, like be
naked, like that has to be notfun for people, but um, but
still, I understand we're humansand there's a funny element to
it so we could see all sidesthat is true.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
That is true.
Hopefully I don't have anynaked people on my plane next
time.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
We're also in America we're.
So I just saw, too that likethere's a lot of like French
women protest stuff and theyjust have like their shirts
completely off and their boobiesare there, and it's like I
think in America, naked is likeso funny because we're like we
have to like cover up, I thinkmore than a lot of other
countries.
So anytime this happens, it'slike even more, you know,
shocking.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
That is so true Because if it happened in
another country, they probablywon't look at it.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Obviously they still gonna, you know, deal with the
woman, because she's having anepisode, but you're right, it
probably won't be as like oh mygod, as it would here.
Right, because they're like, oh, we could go to the ocean and
see naked bodies, like 24-7 oryou know, it's not as much like
a shocking thing.
We're here, we're like littlerobots, and then when we see
that it's like, ah, Well, talkabout interesting stories.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Do you remember who Casey Anderson is, casey?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Anthony Anthony.
I'm sorry, casey AnthonyAnthony, I'm sorry.
Yep, I do, I do.
How could I forget?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Yeah, well, she has a new career now.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
No way, uh-oh.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, I guess now she's a social media legal
expert now.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Huh, okay, I thought you were going to say influencer
, but legal expert is a littlemore serious, I guess.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
She's trying to be an influencer, but a lot of people
are really up in arms becauseof what she did.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
People are like how in the heck could she even think
about doing this?
Some people were like, hey, youknow, let her move on with her
life.
I want to find out from you,Merle, what do you think about
when a person tries to rewritewho they are, rediscover their
personality, because obviouslythey're trying to shed who they

(27:53):
were in the past?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, well, I think sometimes people that have been
in the system, I feel like mayhave a good perspective of it so
that in a in one way, likesomeone may be able you know how
they hire like former hackersfor fbi agents and like they'll
they'll have criminals that endup wanting to do good and then
they'll be able to kind of dowhat they do but help the good

(28:18):
forces.
I I do believe in that, whereI'm like okay, I do believe in
second chances, but I feel Ifeel like Casey Anthony's thing
was so weird and so like notgreat that I don't think anyone
needs her as their legaladvocate.
I feel like if you're lookingfor a legal advocate, it seems
like there's probably dozens, ifnot hundreds, of like other
choices from people that mightbe a little bit more authentic

(28:39):
and like even just better at atthat.
So I guess that's my answer isusually I'm open to people like
revamping their, you know,having a rebrand moment or
trying to find a second life ortake some more chances, but in
this case, not not so much.
Um, I know she's it said she'sbeen in the legal field since

(29:00):
2011, since when she was triedfor murder.
So it's like, on one hand, Ifeel like she knows the justice
system really well, but on theother hand, I wouldn't want
herself to.
I wouldn't want her to beadvocating for me.
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, it's almost like a professional burglar who
just got out of jail and hewants to start a business as um,
a security expert for your home, yeah now, on the one hand,
yeah, he knows a lot about that,but is that somebody I really
want around my house, you know?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
right and I could see if it was someone too like
casey anthony did not give greatpublic image.
You know we all she was notvery liked, she's still not very
liked and like I could also seeif it was someone that had like
a little bit better of areputation, that made a mistake.
But you could clearly see theywere sorry.
But it's like every time we'veseen her she's been defensive or
like aloof and so I don't knowyou hit a great point, though,

(30:00):
meryl.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
A lot, a lot of people have a big problem with
it, because in a lot of people'smind, she showed no remorse,
and that's what people arereally angry about.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, we would almost have to see that she's a
completely different person andthat wasn't leaving her person.
You know her toddler alone anddoing all these things, and so I
don't know Would you take legaladvice from her.
No, definitely not.
I would hear what she did anddo the opposite.
I wouldn't.

(30:34):
I'm sure there might be somepeople, but I worry that I'm not
sure that she would be doing itfor the right reasons.
Like what if she tried to help?
So like what if she was helpingthe next casey anthony?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
you know, like get get freed from something really
bad that they did you know,that's actually a good point,
that's actually a really goodpoint, yeah, so what do you
think?

Speaker 2 (30:58):
you think this is going to last, or think this is
pretty much um I think it mightbe a money grab or just a way
for her to kind of try.
I think maybe she'll have a fewpeople on her payroll and then
after that, I think it's goingto just kind of float away and
then maybe we'll see her sellingtoothpaste or she'll be an
influencer maybe.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
That's true, that is very, very true.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
What if her and Gypsy Rose?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
team up for, like their very own law firm or
something that would be one hellof a law firm.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, I guess we'd have to see, but it would.
I'd have to see a wholedifferent version of casey
anthony, because she definitelyjust sticks out in my mind I
think for a lot of people toothat she just the lack of
remorse and just the excuses anddefensiveness.
Um, and I know she said she's aproponent for the lgbtq
community, so I don't know,it'll be interesting, but I do

(31:53):
believe that people couldreinvent themselves.
But time will tell, I thinkthat's 100% true.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Time will definitely tell.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
What about you?
Would you take any advice fromher?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
I may do like you and listen to the advice and
probably do the opposite.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I think I honestly would probably hire Gypsy Rose
more.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I could see that.
I could definitely see that.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
You know this is off topic, but I think if my
boyfriend ever got in trouble,this is very sad and doesn't
bode well for me, but I feellike OJ Simpson would be the
first person he'd call.
I had to tell him at a point tolike not have a million OJ
Simpson paraphernalia in thehouse.
I'm like we can't have apicture of, like, the Bronco
driving down the highway.
But anyway, um, okay, my nextone, oh, okay.

(32:49):
So daylight savings time is hereand many people have many
different thoughts on it.
Um, the last I heard it was sofunny because it was like trump
may do away with daylightsavings, he may not and all this
kind of stuff, and someonecommented like why is he giving
daylight savings more thoughtthan every other thing on his
agenda?
So Daylight Savings you knowthere's a lot of studies that

(33:13):
say that during this time peopleprobably noticed too I'm a
little off today, a little tired.
Like you know.
It reduces productivity.
We have higher healthcare costsaltogether because of just the
fatigue.
There's a lot of accidents todaythat happened today, a lot of
workplace accidents, justbecause people are running on
too little sleep and this shakesup our circadian rhythm and

(33:34):
just makes a lot of people feeltired and just kind of out of
sorts for today.
Now, for me, like I like thisone because I like getting an
extra morning daylight and Ilove when it starts to get
lighter or I love when it stayslighter for longer.
Just the fact that it's like 7pm right now when we're
recording and it's not sunsetyet, like it just makes me feel

(33:56):
like a little kid.
So for this Daylight SavingsTime, I feel like it's worth it
because we're kind of justgaining that hour.
But I think a lot of peopledon't feel that way.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
So I wanted to get your thoughts on it.
You know what I like this timebetter, because you know it was
7 o'clock and it was still lightoutside.
I'm like, oh, I love it.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, because you still feel like you could go out
and like frolic outside.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Exactly, and I know a lot of people were saying well,
you know there's a problem.
I think the real problembecause I did read the article
is that it's the change thatthrows people off.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, and we should just keep it the same,
like if we keep it now, if we'relocked in now, it will be
perfect, I think.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yes, I think it should be locked in, but I
prefer to have the longerdaylight Me too, Worst thing is
because I think it's theshortest daylight I want.
I want to say I don't know howit is in california, but I know
in the midwest it's like arounddecember middle where you go to
work in the morning it's dark.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, it's dark yes, and it's the same thing.
It's like it's I like to wakeup really early, and it's so
weird to wake up when it's 6amand it's not even close to
getting light out and I'm like,come on, give me something.
I at least need to know thatsomething is happening.
Same thing when it's cold anddark at like 5pm, no way, or 4.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
There's been times this winter that I've sincerely
been like I think I'm going togo to bed and I look and it's
like 5.15pm yep, but you know,the thing that really surprised
me, um, actually it shocked mewas the amount of suicides that
go up, um, you know, during the,you know the, the time shifts.

(35:39):
That's surprising really,because I guess, from what they
say, uh, in the articles, isthat, um, a lot people suffer
from depression and the changingof the time actually affects it
in a negative way.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Wow See, that's weird .
I definitely get what they meanaround depression around the
holidays or in the middle of thewinter, but to me this almost
seems like, okay, we knowsummer's coming or spring, but I
don't know.
Maybe there's something to itabout just our clocks being like
I don't like this next seasoncoming.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I mean, unless it's probably when it gets ready to
fall back and you're losing anhour.
Yeah, that may be.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Me too.
Me too, because you know it'sstarting.
It's like we go intohibernation mode almost, but
this seems like I don't know,but I mode almost, but this
seems like I don't know.
But I also think there shouldbe more awareness of just people
taking care of themselves.
Like I am lucky in the way thatit doesn't really affect me
that badly because I workremotely and from home, and so,
like I have right now, it feelslike we're caught up on the time
, like I don't do you feel itphysically?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
It really doesn't affect me much, except that, you
know, I noticed the longerdaylights and I do feel much
better.
Now, the one thing and againthis is just my take on this is
that it could be when we havethe time fall back, Because when
the time goes back now, you'restill getting into the holiday
season.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
And you know, if you're a person that's going
through depression, you feellonely or whatever.
The major holidays could bereally, really tough.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
You know absolutely.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Absolutely.
I can see that there Because,again, if you're already going
through depression, timeschanging, you think, oh my God,
no, you know, thanksgiving isaround the corner, christmas is
around the corner.
I don't have any family, Idon't have any friends, I don't
have this, and that I can seethat being very, very tough for
someone.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yep, absolutely, me too, and yeah, I guess.
And also if you're working ajob where, like these, time
changes and you're just so tiredand it's like how's my body
going to adjust to it?
And I think, if you're someonethat, like, depends on a lot of
caffeine or a lot of things tojust keep you, stimulated all
day, then I think a time changecan really mess you up.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
You know, that's true , that's true.
I mean, I hope they go throughwith it because they do need to
keep it solid, keep it oneinstead of shifting back.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I think it's kind of stupid personally, but you know
yeah, I think I wonder it'd beinteresting to see a study of
like men versus women handlingdaylight savings time, because
there'd be something that Iwould feel like women might
handle it a little bit better,because we're used to like
having time throughout the monthwhere we're tired, we're crabby
, but we're used to thishappening every 20-something

(38:20):
days.
So it'd be interesting to seehow the different genders handle
it.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
That's actually true.
It'd be kind of nice to know.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Exactly Because I feel like during this time, I
wish our society also haddaylight savings.
You could go nap somewhere, oryou could go see a movie for
free, I don't know.
They should do more restfulthings.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Absolutely, absolutely, talk about
interesting.
I don't know, you may love thisone, but I'd love to get your
take on it.
There was this video that wentaround and basically it was this
woman who happened to go to thestore and ran into her

(39:08):
boyfriend and he took her bestfriend to the store.
And you know picking her up,you know, to take her back home.
She kind of, you know, was verypissed off, to pull it very
mildly, and I'm just kind ofcurious, because it was

(39:30):
interesting to see what peoplewere saying online.
Is it okay for a boyfriend totake his girlfriend's best
friend to the store withoutasking his girlfriend first?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I'd let.
The only way ever is, if it thestore is a jewelry store,
they're picking out a diamondring for me.
No, now I feel like the batongirl.
I'm getting at my wand, I'mabout to hit someone on the head
with this.
No, this seems weird and likethere's definitely something
going on.
No, I like in college, I would.
If your friends, if they'rejust naturally like a big friend

(40:01):
group, I could see the friendjust being like, hey, I'm gonna
go to the store and the girl'slike, oh, I need this from
Target or I need this, I'llcruise with you and cruise back.
But if the girlfriend'savailable first and you're not
asking her first, I think that'sweird.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
See, that's what I thought too, because you know,
obviously, you know, if you'remarried, it's like two times
worse, yeah, yeah, if you'remarried, it's like 10 times
worse, yeah, yeah.
It's like it was interestingbecause some people were like,
well, but this is her bestfriend, you know.
And some people were like, yeah, that's the problem.
I mean they were going at itonline too, because sometimes

(40:38):
I'll read them, because it'skind of simple at each other and
I was like, wow, because youwould think about it.
And it's like, hmm, whywouldn't a girlfriend, why
wouldn't she just ask her bestfriend to take her Exactly, or
ask her like, hey, is it okay ifJohnny, whatever or whatever,
take me to the store?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
You know what I mean Did the girlfriend run into them
at the store or someone elsedid.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
The girlfriend ran into them.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
No, no, okay, that's really weird.
That's officially weird,because I can see if they're all
in college and like theirgirlfriend is in class all day
and they're all hanging out likeon a porch together and the
boyfriend just says I'm gonna goto target and the girl just
like, oh, I'll go with you.
Then that's, that's like Icould.
It's kind of weird, but I cansee that being okay.
But if your girlfriend isactively around, no, that would

(41:25):
be.
If I was in Target buyingdeodorant, I saw my boyfriend,
my best friend, but it's sofunny because I would only be
mad at him for some reason.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
And you know what's so interesting with when he
confronted them, when sheconfronted them, he was like but
this is so.
So your best friend and youknow she's like so why don't you
ask me first, you know?
And it's like, yeah, that'sweird.
Why didn't you ask me first,you know?
And it's like, yeah, that'sweird.
And there were some people, andit was interesting.
I saw some remarks where theywere like, you know, the guy
probably wasn't really up onwhat was going on, but the girl,

(41:56):
but the best friend, knew whatshe was doing yeah, I was like
wow, okay, I mean, that was aninteresting response, you know
exactly in like in a wonderfulway.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
It's like you almost want to have your best friends
indifferent towards yourboyfriend, like I saw someone
describe it once, which I thinkis so funny where they're like
we all view our friends,boyfriends, as just like extras
on a play.
Where I'm like, oh you're heretoo.
Like like I, my best friend, Iheard what her husband is
awesome, but like him and Iwould never go to the store
together.
I'm there for her.

(42:27):
He's just kind of a sidecharacter and I feel like he
feels that way about me too.
That's weird.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Some women look at it as even if nothing happened, by
you not telling me.
That's kind of like cheating.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's definitely weird.
This seems like something thatwhen you're in your 20s and
you're kind of all a blendedgroup, a friend group, I think
that's a little moreunderstanding.
But as you start to get intoyour 30s and 40s you have more
of a deeper, more seriousrelationship, I think.
Then it starts to get weirder.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
So mess with something out there.
Don't fall for this trap.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Exactly.
Don't do it, just go to thestore by yourself.
Actually, don't even go to thestore, just order everything on
Instacart and watch your mans.
There you go.
Well, that annoys me.

(43:26):
Okay, well, I'm going to keepwith the trend of daylight
savings time and just beingsleepy, and we're going to talk
about the latest trend of sleepmaxing, which is so funny
because nowadays it's like Ifeel like a lot of gen z just
calls everything like bio maxingor like diet maxing.
It's like no, you're justeating healthy, you're really.
Sleep maxing is like the bestways to hack your sleep and
really it's just called likegetting a good night rest, and

(43:47):
so they, they.
They even saw a thing that itwas like makeup maxing and it's
just people putting on a makeup.
So this trend of maxing outeverything is hilarious, but
sleep maxing is pretty muchdoing everything you can to get
a really restful night's sleep.
Now they said that more and morepeople are getting like a full
eight to nine hours of sleep,whereas before, in older

(44:08):
generations, we only got likesix to seven.
You know we always, we alwayswent for eight hours, but that
wasn't always the case.
I saw one person comment it'stoo expensive to be awake now.
That's really funny, and so Ijust wanted to read a list
really quick of some things thatare sleep maxing to see which

(44:28):
ones we're doing.
Okay, so I'm going to read outand just tell me really quick if
you're doing these or not.
No liquids two hours before bed.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I don't do that.
I'm not doing that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Me too Cold room temperature.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I do like a little cool.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Okay, pitch black room.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
I don't like pitch black.
I like a little cool.
Okay, pitch black room.
I don't like pitch black.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I like a TV one, me too White noise machine.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
No.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Me too.
I fall asleep like with TikTokstill in my hand.
Let's see Magnesium.
I'm taking a magnesiumsupplement.
I do that one Shower one hourbefore bed.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I don't do that.
One Shower one hour before bed.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I don't do that one.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
No caffeine after 3 pm.
Definitely don't do that.
I could have an espresso andlike sleep immediately, Like
it's not good.
And then the last one let's seeas soon as you wake up sunlight
, Like go for a walk outside andget sunlight within the first
like 20 minutes I would love tosay, yes, I do that, but no, I

(45:34):
don't okay, I do that one um andthen eating two kiwis before
bed I don't, but that's actuallynot a bad idea though right,
kiwis are awesome.
So yeah, kiwis are supposed tobe like a really great sleep aid
.
So those are some of the sleepmaxi things there's also I don't
know if you've ever heard ontiktok there's this thing called
like the sleepy girl mocktailthat girls make with um tart,

(45:57):
cherry juice, a little bit ofmagnesium and then some other
like little things, and I'veactually made them for myself
and it does.
It does taste really good doesit work?
Yeah, it works, but you have tolike.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I end up mixing my tart cherry juice with other
stuff because it doesn't tastethat good, so that I'm like now
I have a stomach ache well, youknow, I saw, I saw some of the
videos online and you know, mostof it was like stuff that okay,
yeah, that makes sense, thatmakes sense.
But every so often I ran intovideos where they're like doing
20, 30 things before they go tobed.

(46:31):
It's like, okay, that's alittle excessive.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I'm not yeah, I have to really like be disciplined
about even every night, likewashing the dishes, doing all my
dental.
You know like I just something.
There are some nights I justbrush my teeth and then I don't
do anything else, but it's likeflossing all this kind of stuff.
You know like there's a lot todo, but you feel so much better
in the morning when you wake upand the dishes are done and

(46:54):
things are neat.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
That's true.
That's true.
We've gotten a little lazy overtime because we're now empty
nesters since the sun moved out.
Oh yeah, so we don't straightenup as quickly as we used to.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, all these people that, like I, have some
friends that lay out theiroutfits, like every night At
nighttime they'll get everythingfor the next day assembled,
whether it's like making theirlunch and getting that all ready
, and then they'll have theiroutfit picked out the next
morning.
I'm like I can't imagine whatit's like to be that of a human
where you wake up and everythingis done for you.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Now you know what I do do that you do.
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So you pick out your socks too.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I pick out everything , even underwear.
Everything's hung up.
You do.
That's so cool, I don't have tothink about anything.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Do you look at the weather, or you just kind of
know like, okay, I'm just goingto wear, I'll just be prepared
for, like, whatever's going tohappen.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I'll glance at the weather to see Most of the time
if it's like during the winteror the summer.
I may not look right awaybecause you know the summertime
is going to be pretty much warmevery day.
Wintertime is pretty cold everyday.
So unless I have somethingspecific to do, I really kind of

(48:10):
don't glance at the weather.
I may glance at it the next dayor whatever.
But yeah, I love getting mystuff together, just so I one
less thing for me to think aboutthe next day.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
That's so good.
Now are you ever, when you wakeup, in your, are you ever like
I don't want to wear this, Idon't want to wear a blue shirt?
Like, do you ever feel that way?
Or you're just like, well, Ipicked it out, I'm going with it
.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
You know what?
Pretty much I stick with it.
Every so often I do change, butfor the most part I stick with
what I set aside.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Okay, wow, that made me.
I already respected you, butnow my level of respect just
went up 10 more points.
I'm going to try to do that,yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
It's fun, though it's fun Because, yeah, it's fun.
Though it's fun because I likepicking out my stuff and like,
yeah, Now I have to admit Idon't iron my stuff until the
next day.
I should do that the nightbefore, but I don't do that.
The fact that you're evenironing at all.

(49:03):
I don't, so that's so good.
That's like very adult andimpressive.
Yeah, I'm old school.
I like the creases in my pants.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
That's so nice, see, that's like very adult and you
just really do feel better aboutyourself, you know like.
I try to remember that too whenI'm working from home, even if
I'm not really going to seeanyone socially that day.
Like you just mentally feel somuch better when you actually
put on like an outfit.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't know if I couldn't work from sweatpants
all day.
My wife thinks I'm weirdbecause even if I'm working from
home and I'm not seeing anyone,I still put clothes on.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
That's wonderful, See .
I think that's like mentallysuch a good thing.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, she thinks I'm nuts for that.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
No, I couldn't.
If anything, I'll just stay inlike workout clothes all the
time, but I won't.
I couldn't do like pajamas allday.
I would just feel like I havethe flu or something.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
I think we're going to end this on a beautiful
subject here.
Yay, there is this viralchallenge going on right now.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
It's called the.
We Listen and we Don't Judgevideos.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Love it Love them In case someone hasn't seen or
heard of these videos basically,what you have, you have a
couple.
It could be boyfriend,girlfriend, husband, wife,
doesn't matter and it starts offsaying, okay, we listen and we
don't judge.
I don what.
I kind of fake like I washaving fun at the movies, but I

(50:31):
really don't.
You know, it's kind of like fun.
Yeah, yeah, confessions now.
Do you think this is somethingthat you and your boyfriend
would do?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
well, it's so funny.
All we do is we talk and wejudge, so have.
Most of our conversation ismore like us both yipping and
yapping about each other.
So it'd be funny because I feellike if there were new ones it
would be news to us, because Ifeel like constantly, in a good
way, him and I are like alwaystalking about what we do and we
don't like.
But yeah, I think it could bereal.

(51:00):
I think that could be reallyfunny and cute.
But I almost feel like I don'twant to know what the other
one's going to say, because Ifeel like we already know so
much.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Oh my God.
In fact they had this onecouple who did it on the Tamron
Hall show and what was funnyabout it I don't know, maybe not
so funny was they had did avideo and the woman said we
listen and we don't judge.
All those times that I said Ihad a headache when you wanted

(51:32):
to oh no.
I was faking all of them oh no,that's kind of.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Then I feel like it's gonna be a weird car ride home
because see me personally, I'llsmile it off, but I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Yeah that's like a harsh one.
Going to bust me out like that?
Huh.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, that's a pretty big one, Like, I think,
something you know totallybenign would be better.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Right, it's like you know they had things like, and
then Tamron is like well, how doyou guys handle something like?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
that.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Well, you know, we know it's all in fun and you
know, hey, no big deal.
I'm thinking they're lying.
They're lying because whenthose cameras are off there's
probably a differentconversation it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
I I had one of these, but with my parents.
There was my mom used to makethis dinner growing up where it
was like a white fish and thenwhite potatoes and these white
like string beans.
And then my dad and I wouldalways, secretly, behind her
back, say like, oh God, we'rehaving the white dinner tonight.
Like the white dinner is sogross.
And then and then it took thenlike decades later, when I was
finally an adult, my dad and Iboth said like we hated the

(52:38):
white dinner.
Yeah, and she was like herfeelings were hurt, but she was
like what, what?
What do you just tell me?
I would never cook it for you.
All these times that we ate it,we would always secretly laugh
at the white dinner becauseeverything was a weird yellow
color.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
If you got a great relationship, this would be a
great challenge.
But if you're the wrong kind ofcouple, this could really go
left, because I was thinkinglike so what would happen if one
of them goes?
Hey, we listen and we don'tjudge.
Um, just want to let you know Ihad a couple of affairs, but
that was oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
You have to really make it like the easiest, cutest
thing.
Once I use your sock to cleanup my spilled whatever, you
almost have to make it aDisney-level PG-rated.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Oh, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Not like hey, I took your best friend shopping.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Oh yeah.
But yeah, it was kind ofinteresting.
I'm like, wow, you're taking abig risk.
You guys know each otherbecause whoo, I don't want to
know.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
What I already know is too much, so I'd rather not
know as much.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, but that was actually a pretty fun one,
though, to see.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
I love those kind of ones.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Wow, I can't believe it's been an hour.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I know.
And on Daylight Savings Time,look at us.
Wow, I can't believe it's beenan hour, I know, and on daylight
savings time.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
look at us, there you go.
Where Mel?
Do you have anything coming up?

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I do.
I have a fun show, um, not thisFriday, but next Friday, march
21st, at the comedy store andI'll be hosting a show, and you
know that one.
There's like a big comedian,bobby Lee, who's on it, and
stuff, another great comediannamed Jimmy Shin.
I will be hosting and having avery fun time.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I'll be listening and judging.
Actually, I'll be talking andothers will be judging.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I'll definitely keep an eye out for your cousin on
the FBI show.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yes, I am definitely looking forward to seeing that
myself.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
And what about you?
Any cool things.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Let's see Actually putting together stuff.
I've already started my tapingfor my cooking show.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
That's been pushed back too long, so I'm waiting
for that Over the weekend and myother show that I have Thirsty
Conversations.
We had some great people onthat show, so I'm looking
forward to that coming out.
One of them you may know hisname is John Bolger.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
John Bolger is a comedian.
He's also on AM7 in chicagocool, he does a lot of stuff
behind the scenes.
As far as um you know, hestarted off at second city and
other famous you know clubs inthe city and he does a lot more
work behind the scenes now withproducing and writing.
But he has a lot of showsthat's coming out that he's

(55:44):
working on.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Um is it b-o-s?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
uh, b-o-l-g-e-r bulger, okay, cool, yeah, so
he's gonna be um, he's gonnahave a lot of different things
coming on.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
It was so fun having him on the show.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I have to check it out, yeah so, but yeah, it was
definitely a fun time and I'm Ican't wait to have people watch
it.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
So well, you're rocking it, everyone's rocking
it.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Oh, yes, absolutely and for everyone.
Thank you so much for watching.
We have so much fun.
Always keep supporting us andplease tell people about us so
we can get in front of morepeople, either on podcasts or on
TV.
So I am Lawrence El.
Yes, I am Lawrence Elrod.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
And I am Meryl.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Clemo, have a great day.
All Bye-bye.
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