July 30, 2025 • 46 mins
The entertainment landscape shifted dramatically this week with Malcolm Jamal Warner's sudden passing from an accidental drowning. The beloved actor, most known for his role as Theo Huxtable on The Cosby Show, leaves behind a powerful legacy of breaking stereotypes about Black families on television and his advocacy work around mental health issues. His rare ability to transition successfully from child star to respected adult actor made him a standout in an industry where such transitions often prove difficult.
Meanwhile, a viral moment at a Coldplay concert exposed a tech CEO's alleged affair when the venue's kiss cam caught him with a woman who wasn't his wife. When Andy Byron and his companion ducked for cover upon being featured on the big screen, Coldplay's Chris Martin jokingly asked if they were "having an affair," unwittingly setting off a chain reaction that culminated in Byron's resignation from data company Astronomer. The incident sparked widespread conversations about workplace relationships—particularly given that the woman involved reportedly worked in HR—and the consequences of personal indiscretions in our hyper-connected digital age.
Sports drama intensified when Shaquille O'Neal publicly threatened former NFL quarterback Robert Griffin III over racially insensitive comments about basketball star Angel Reese. The controversy highlighted the unique challenges faced by Black female athletes and the importance of established figures using their platforms to call out discrimination. We also discuss concert safety concerns after both Beyoncé and Katy Perry experienced aerial stunt malfunctions, Bad Bunny's cultural impact through his Puerto Rico residency, and the dissolution of Jane's Addiction's reunion tour amid lawsuits between band members. What performers and celebrities do you think handle publicity best—both good and bad? Share your thoughts and subscribe for more unfiltered entertainment conversations.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hello everyone, Welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey Meryl, how are you doing today?
I'm so good I feel like thenews is juicy today yes, it is,
yes, it is yeah, we've got somejuicy news yes, we're gonna jump
right in because we got a lotto go over.
Yep, um, I do want to start offand we just found this out that
um actor malcolm jamal warnerhas just passed away from an
(00:45):
accidental drowning.
He's been known for doing allkinds of great works, but I
think his most memorable wouldbe the Cosby Show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, yeah, and he's had a great career after.
I feel like he's one of thoseactors that had a, was able to
have a great reputation aroundHollywood and still stay very
active.
And yeah, it's very shocking.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it's one of those situations where, sadly,
it's a rarity to have a childstar that actually successful as
an adult star, as well.
So it was very shocking.
I know I love watching theCosby show and I also like this
show.
I think it's called Malcolm andEddie.
I love watching the Cosby showand I also like this show.
(01:28):
I think it's called Malcolm andEddie.
When him and Eddie Griffin JrPlayed on this comedy show, it
came on weekly when they owned arestaurant.
And they were also roommates.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So I like this show too.
That's cute and, as we'rerecording, the news is just
breaking.
But I always think about thiskind of stuff when I feel like
the news travels so fast nowthat sometimes family and
friends hear about it at thesame point that we do too.
You know, so hopefully I'm surehis immediate family knows
about this.
But, like I just think,sometimes TMZ and all these
(01:57):
places put out informationbefore like most of the person's
friends and you know close-ishfamily hear about it.
So I hope that people have hada time, like time, to at least
digest the information yeah, Iagree with you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I think the worst thing is when your family finds
out through the news media yeahyeah, directly.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You know, it kind of puts a little sour taste in your
mouth, you know right andpeople are so, and as news
consumers, obviously, if we, wetalk about this kind of stuff
for our living.
But it's also sometimes more ofthe salacious outlets try to
get all the details and all theeverythings and it's like
everyone always just needs towait a minute before.
But I think the main point isjust that that's so sad and
(02:39):
shocking.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, let me ask you this what's your greatest memory
of Malcolm Jamal Warner?
It could be a personal one, oreven from his acting careers.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh wow, I think, absolutely.
I feel like on the Cosby showthey did a really great job of
showing that handsome, cool,popular people could still be
really nice.
And I feel like his.
I'm sure it was a mixture oflike who he was as a person and
his character in the writing,but I just always thought of him
as like really kind and reallyopen and I just thought he did a
(03:08):
good job for showing, liketeenager boys, that you can be
hot and and nice at the sametime too, you know you know what
that's true?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean, one of my biggest memories from the cosby
show is really not a particularshow, but basically his overall
character.
Um, because the cosby show brokea lot of barriers back then,
because it broke the stereotypeof what a black family looked
like yeah, yep and the otherthing that it did, too, is show
(03:37):
that, yes, you could belong to avery positive, strong family
and still be a kid, still do thestupid stuff that kids do right
, and you learn from it and youmove forward.
You know it wasn't fake, andwhat I mean by that is is like
he wasn't the perfect role model.
Never make a mistake because,yeah, that's not a kid, that's
that's right, but you could tellhe was still nice yes, yes, yes
(04:01):
, so and um, I think he had awife and a child that he left
behind as well, too.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's so sad, so shocking and weird.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I mean I kind of am interested as to how that
accidental drowning happened.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I know.
I mean, there's so many waysI've been hearing about that
lately.
I think in Lake Tahoe by usthere was someone whose boat
capsized and they drowned reallyquickly.
Tahoe by us, there was someonewhose their boat capsized and
they drowned really quickly.
I think you know it's just.
I feel like around water peoplealways have to be so careful,
no matter if you're an adult ora child or whatever.
You know, it's just, things canhappen quickly.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's a good point, cause I know here in Chicago you
know a lot of people like to godown to the beach, just like
Michigan, and you know there'ssometimes where the rip current
is like really strong and theytell people, you know, stay out
of water, and you'll have somepeople that feel, hey, I'm a
great, I'm a very strong swimmer.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Take it and then you know there's.
There's been some people that'slost their lives, even strong
swimmers, because, again, ifthat current is so strong, it
can literally pull you down.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes, yeah, totally, and there's certain lakes that
I've heard about too, where it'slike the roots are down there
and if your foot gets caught onit, it's just, yeah, it's so
scary.
So, yeah, all I see is justthat he passed away on a family
trip um but yeah, I'm sure we'll.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We'll learn more by the time this comes, comes out
that's actually even worse to beon a family trip, though I know
, I know, oh, one more thing tooabout him.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I forgot he did do a lot for mental health.
I know he spoke out a lot about, just you know, depression and
anxiety and all that stuff, andI thought that was that was good
too.
Like he seemed to make hiscelebrity matter to people and
like try to do things with hisname.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh, absolutely.
And you know, the thing is, hewasn't, he wasn't afraid to
speak up, you know yeah.
I remember, when you know, whenyou know, bill Cosby had his
legal troubles, you know, and hestood up, you know, to say hey,
he's with him, you know, hesupports.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And you know some people thought it was a great
thing he did.
Some people thought maybe itwasn't the smartest thing, but
you know he stood on hisprinciples.
And yeah, but you know he stoodon his principles and yeah, but
to respect the person for that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Absolutely the only other Cosby person I hear from a
lot is like I mean notpersonally but on podcast is I
feel like I see who's the onethat played Urkel as a Jaleel
White, or yeah, I feel like he'sout and about on the circuit a
lot too.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I wonder if him and.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Malcolm.
He was on the Cosby show, oh,that's right.
He was on Family Matters,that's right.
Whoops, other strong Blackfamily shows I forgot.
I feel like the Cosby showshould have had an Urkel too.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Did they ever have a crossover?
The thing about it is you'reright.
You know, Jaleil White has a.
I think he has a game show nowthat's on TV, now that he does.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, oh my gosh, that's totally right.
Everyone can laugh at me forthat.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I think he has.
Don't quote me on this, but Ihear supposedly he has some kind
of cannabis business too.
I don't know if it's true ornot.
Wow, so just think Urkel'sdoing pot now.
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I know it makes sense .
I feel like that would in 2025,that sounds exactly the type of
sentence that we would say.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, let's definitely give our condolences
to Malcolm's family, his friends, and definitely let them know
that we're praying for him.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Absolutely Okay.
Okay, well, not to completelychange the subject, but the
thing that everyone has beentalking about this week that I
couldn't wait to hear yourthoughts on it was I mean,
there's so many things to talkabout with this situation the
Coldplay concert affair beingcaught.
As I'm sure everyone knows evenif you are living under a rock,
I'm sure it's made its way tomost rocks by now the tech CEO
(07:47):
that went viral, andy byron, andhis uh affair partner.
I mean and this is all alleged.
Of course, we don't know likewhat this exact situation is,
but it you know the proof was inthe pudding in some ways.
Um, not to have an old cosbyreference, but anyway, the tech
ceo just resigned.
So data tech company astronomerreleased a statement on social
media saying that andy byron hastendered his resignation.
(08:07):
Um, and just to kind of recap,what happened is, at a coldplay
concert, they were showing thekiss cam and they show like a
bunch of different people, andthen it showed, uh, this one man
and woman and instead of justembracing or acting silly, these
people basically ducked forcover and one went one way, the
the other went the other way and, of course, it sparked a whole
big thing and the lead singer,chris Martin, even joked are you
(08:31):
guys having an affair orsomething?
And so then people recognizedthe couple and soon realized, oh
, these people are married, butnot to each other.
And it sparked likeinternational.
I mean I was seeing memes from,like you know, gavin Newsom,
and like companies like apierogi company that I follow
were making funny memes about it.
It's like it's definitely thebiggest thing that we've seen in
(08:53):
a long time and it just broughtup a lot of conversation about
affairs and CEOs and workplacesand you know, like I'm sure the
board of directors was notreally happy about this.
I think allegedly the personthat he was cheating with was
part of the HR department, andso you know that brought up a
(09:17):
whole big thing too.
There's been a couple falsestatements that people I
couldn't find an actualstatement from Andy's wife like
his real wife.
There's been some like fakeones, but as of now I couldn't
find an actual like legit thing.
But I mean I'm sure she'sretaining counsel and I don't
know.
I guess, like there's so manyaspects, what do you want to
talk about about this part of it?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Wow.
I know there's a lot to unpackin this.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I mean, it's like this Obviously you should not be
cheating.
Okay, that's right.
Everybody knows that Bringingthat person to a large public
event like that, even if theydidn't get caught, was kind of
stupid, because you could runinto anybody at a concert,
especially a big concert, youknow, yeah.
(10:01):
And then the turnaround andthey're hugging on each other
like there's so much in love andyou know, I gotta admit co-play
didn't do them no favors.
When they go hey either they'recheating or they're uh shy.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was like wow, that was I know, but that seems like
like one of those interventionsfrom the universe.
You know, they always say kindof whatever's happening will
resurface like you know, ifyou're worried about your
partner having an affair, itsomehow always comes across like
I.
I learned about a boyfriendcheating on me when he he meant
to uh message a different womanabout like driving carefully in
the rain.
And then he messaged me but asa girlfriend at the time and I'm
(10:36):
like I'm not driving and it'snot raining out, and then that's
how it happened, but I swearthe universe is always working
to like expose things, I think.
So you just have to have likefaith in that.
And then I feel like for thiswife, that's probably what
happened, like he probably toldher, oh, don't worry about this,
or you know, I'm just going tothe concert with some friends or
co-workers and then it's likethe whoever or whatever did
(10:59):
their job and then like it'snational news oh yeah, and you
and you know the other thing too, meryl, is that, besides the
obvious with those two, justthink about their spouses.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
How embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I know, I know, yeah, I feel like it's embarrassing,
but wouldn't you?
I would feel a little bithappier if this was the
situation, cause you have, likethe whole internet on your side
and I feel like I would feelless embarrassed because of me
and more Like I saw so manyvideos of women, older women,
(11:30):
just saying to the wife ifyou're watching this, we have
your back.
I would just feel like I have awhole army of people just there
for me.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh yeah, and the thing is for a CEO and head of
HR.
I mean, you can't get any worsethan that in a company.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I know, I know, I know, and supposedly she's
married to the CEO and, like Ibet, I bet he's going to tell
her it wasn't that serious, wewere just having a moment, or
you know, like I bet he's goingto try to weasel his way out of
it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I mean you know, when you burn a woman like that and
embarrass her like that, I don'tknow.
I mean you know, when you burna woman like that and embarrass
her like that, I don't know.
I mean I could be wrong.
I don't know because, again,it's different if the parties
involved know.
It's another thing when thewhole world knows.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You know I know, and exactly what it involves
children and what it involves,like, I mean, who knows what
would have happened, um, but Ithink do you think he did the
right?
I mean, who knows if would havehappened?
But I think do you think he didthe right.
I mean, who knows if he wasgiven a choice or not, but do
you think, like, resigning wasthe right move?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, I honestly think that he was encouraged to
resign.
I don't think he did that onhis own.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, I have a or like.
A part of me sometimes feelslike and it's different on every
circumstance, but I do feellike sometimes, when you get
married and you make vows andyou're like legally married,
part of me does feel like whenyou cheat, I do feel like it
should be some type of like fineor violation or you know, then
(12:58):
we're, I know, then we're kindof getting into like church and
state and it's gettingeverything like I understand.
But a part of me does feel,like you, you should have like a
big penalty when you cheat on,like a marriage where there's
assets and like I don't know,because you're wasting someone's
time and money and energy well,you know, the thing is is that
all marriages have its ups anddowns, all marriage, yeah, yeah
(13:20):
you talk it out, you know, andif it gets that bad where you
need to cheat, just leave.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Exactly, I hear sometimes people go well, we
grew apart, this person doesn'tsatisfy my needs, or whatever.
Well, my philosophy is well,welcome to the real world.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Exactly, and that happens, yeah, totally, and I
think that's understandable.
But I feel like so manymarriages end so horribly when
they don't need to, because it'slike you betray the person
instead of just being honest andsay, oh, it's run its course or
you know, let's like dissolvethis nicely.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh yeah, and the reality is the wife for the CEO
Took down all of her socialmedia.
Now I'm assuming and I could bewrong that she may have gotten
some, some may have gotten somepeople that put some things in
there for support, but, with theembarrassment of that, she
(14:12):
probably didn't want anyone tobe commenting on her stuff, so
she shut it down, which Itotally understand.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Exactly and of course we don't know the situation,
and I'm sure you feel this wayas a man, but like as a woman,
and I definitely didn't feelthis way in my twenties but I
think as you get older you justlearn like I would never that
such bad woman code to even dothat and I definitely think it's
karma, like I think anytimethat I've been trifling in the
past you know like like you getthat back times a million and so
(14:40):
I think it's just not goodkarma.
You shouldn't do it to otherpeople.
It's just kind of weird.
Everyone was saying too here'sthis man that you're having an
affair with, and the minute thecamera comes on you, he
discarded of her and didn'tprotect her at all.
You could tell they're clearlyboth embarrassed.
Double down, stand by it.
If you guys are into each otherthat much, it's too late.
(15:03):
You can't deny it at this point,you know yeah, it looked and I
was seeing all these ai thingsof what they should have done
instead and it was so funny.
They were like having him likefly up a superman and being like
we're here you know, thecraziest thing and you touched
on it earlier is the memes.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
That's all over social media everybody I know
everybody's doing the.
You know the camera thing whereyou put the camera on there and
then you zip in differentdirections.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm like wow, exactly the Phillies.
And then I saw Gavin Newsommade one of like Trump and
Epstein and, of course, like Ihonestly, if I was this woman I
would feel ridiculous, butthere's something about knowing
that, like, millions of peoplehave your back.
That would give you thestrength to do it.
And I hope she doesn't take himback and, of course, we don't
(15:46):
know these people's lives at allbut, like it, I feel like if
you take a cheater back likethree times, then it becomes one
of those kind of like shame onyou type of situations, but I
also have strong viewpointsabout it yeah, and I think he's
going to have a hard time in thecareer because, um, you know, a
lot of companies are going tobe a little bit leery about
bringing him on because of thatbaggage.
I know Yep, and I hope hedoesn't also go the route of
(16:09):
like pretending to, like I'mchecking myself into a center to
see what's wrong with me.
It's like, just own it.
I was having an affair Like youknow.
Say, say exactly what it wasand like move forward with that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And here's the crazy thing If he has children that
are at least teenagers or older,how do you explain that to them
?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean you know that if he has children that's a
little bit older, that meansthey're probably getting teased
and harassed a little bitbecause of what he did.
So how do you have thatconversation?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You know, I know, and the very side thing is everyone
making fun of Coldplay.
They're actually an amazingconcert to go to.
So not to bring your side pieceout, but Coldplay people were
making fun of them like at aColdplay concert.
I'm like they've actually.
Coldplay is an amazing show.
They have like really greatlighting and everything.
But yeah, I just think, andfrom what I've heard too, and
(17:05):
everything but um, yeah, I, Ijust think, and from what I've
heard too, that the woman, hrperson, like people have not
liked working with her and forher.
So I feel like a lot of stuffis coming out.
There's people I saw somethreads of people saying like oh
, wow, I can't believe this isout, like I used to work with
kristin directly and likethey're they're spilling the tea
wow, they said that she's aserial cheater.
Wow, really, yep, and of coursewe don't know.
(17:26):
This is all alleged, of course,but that's what the internet is
saying.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I tell you one thing they sure did.
I mean this story, Merle, and Ikid you not, was on the news,
it was on Good Morning America,it was on the View and all these
other talk shows.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean it's really hitting the spectrum.
Yeah, exactly I was listeningto like a podcast with a crisis
PR person and she was sayingthis week is the worst time to
have a scandal the whole yearbecause, like September, bigger
news kicks up and we have moreserious news.
But she said like the beginning, middle of July is like the
slowest news time, so anythingthat hits, and then it basically
(18:06):
hits for the whole summer.
So she was like this is likethe worst day historically to
have something go viral, becausewe're all just kind of like
bored and watching Jurassic parkand everything and you know
there's no like, there's notthat many politics stuff
happening right now, so yeah,yeah, that makes sense, that
makes sense.
Whatever those people did to getcaught, the universe was on the
(18:26):
the wife's side.
So much by just bringing thisto light and like the chances
that coldplay would put thecamera on them and everything do
you think it was cold for themto say, hey, either they're
cheating or they're shy?
no, I think that's hystericaland he probably didn't know.
I feel like if you're standingthere and you put the spotlight
on two people and they act thatway, I feel like that would be
the normal assumption.
(18:46):
I'm like what did we just catch, you know?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That is so true.
Talk about catching.
I'm quite sure you know whoShaq is.
Yeah, probably know who RG3 is.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, shaq had made a statement and it was directed
directly towards RG3.
To give you a little bit ofbackstory, rg3 has been
basically not a big Andrew Reesefan.
He's talking all this stuffabout her and her going against
Kaylin and all this stuff likethis Kate and Clark, and it's to
(19:28):
me it's gotten a little bit outof hand.
But, I think where it reallyreally went overboard.
I saw little clips of it whereI guess RG3 was making comments
about Andrew Rhys and thenbasically made Andrew Rhys look
like a monkey.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And you know his wife was in the background.
The reason that's important ishis wife is white, he's black,
so you can kind of see where theoptics are in this yeah, it's
unbelievable and you know, theone thing that I don't
understand is the obsession withangel reese, because she's been
, he's been really riding herkind of hard and you know,
(20:14):
basically shaq, well, it's not.
Basically he said, jack saidthat.
If you know, you say one morething about Angel Reese, I'm
going to punch you in the effingface.
Really, he actually said that.
So that's really out of hischaracter, because you know,
shaq doesn't really do that butyou know, Shaq is more like a
big brother, like a mentor toAngel.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Exactly, I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I think sometimes violence is needed in that kind
of way, but I guess I don't know.
I mean to me the monkey,putting her as a monkey that
kind of hits me a certain way.
That hits me in a real bad wayand the optics don't look good.
You know, if you want to have aperson outside of your race
that happens to be a differentrace, that's fine.
You know, if you want to have aperson outside of your race
that happens to be a differentrace, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know that's your life, whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But the optics of what he did, and what he did to
Andrew Reese to me was totallyuncalled for.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I think that was cost-efficient.
Absolutely, I agree.
I think it's one thing like youdon't have to like everyone,
you don't have to be a fan ofeveryone.
But when you don't have to be afan of everyone, but when you
start doing that, that should bejust grounds for getting your
platform taken away.
And I love that Shaq's stickingup for her, and in this day and
age, in any day and age, butthat's just completely uncalled
(21:30):
for.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh yeah, and the one thing that people got to
understand too, once you reallymake it big in entertainment or
sports, there's a thing in thatcontract called the morality
clause.
So with that morality clause,you create enough nonsense about
something that you say or dothat can void your contract, yep
, so he needs to be carefulabout that as well too.
(21:54):
Yeah, because that's a realthing, and we could think back
in the past where you know,either celebrities, athletes,
have either done or saidsomething stupid and that cost
them their career yeah, I'venever seen someone who just
wants to play basketball so muchas angel reese, that has to
deal with so much like sidechatter and drama.
(22:14):
It's unbelievable it really is.
And you know the thing is,taylor Clark really isn't the
nicest person either, becauseI've seen her throw some elbows,
push people down.
She's not an angel.
She's a great player, but she'sno angel, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Right.
Yeah, I think it's funny toobecause, like I mean, I think a
lot of men in sports have toendure this too, but it's like
the women have to also deal withso much and, like you know, not
only there are people callingthem like bad players, but
making fun of every single thing, and it's just like I could
just imagine if I was them.
It's like I just want to playbasketball.
I'll be left alone yeah, that'strue.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I do commend uh shaq for speaking up, because shaq
said and I don't know if it'strue or not, but he stated that
the reason why Angel Reese isn'tsaying anything is he's telling
her.
You know what?
Ignore it, you know.
Don't respond back to it.
And you know he said the reasonshe ain't saying that is
because I told her not to sayanything.
You know, just ignore thisnonsense, but he's gotten to the
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point where he's tired of it.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Absolutely.
I think it's totally okay likewe talk about memes and stuff
like I've definitely laughed atsome things about just Angel
Rees, like missing shots and youknow, like just lighthearted
stuff, like where it's notattacking someone's character or
race or anything.
It's just like silly about thesame way that you would about
like Jake Paul boxing or youknow what I mean, like any mean,
(23:43):
like any type of athlete likethat's, that's fine and it's
silly.
I think if you want to lightheartedly like laugh at someone,
like missing something or youknow just taking a shot at them
that way, but, um, when it getsinto, this territory.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's just not right.
Oh yeah, I mean talking abouthow a person plays, whether they
play good or bad or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, that's fine you know, yeah, yeah, everyone
feels that way about certainteams and certain players.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I just feel that putting her as a monkey, that's
personal.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, absolutely the internet can be so toxic.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It really is.
And the thing is, you know yougot to ask this question because
he's talking about her all thetime is what is the obsession
with her?
You know?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
seriously, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So hopefully he calms this down, but, um, like I said
, it's it's not a good look, butI have a feeling that sponsors
are probably going to whisper inhis ear.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You need to move on to a different subject yeah, I
agree, but good for shack, andhe's probably just had enough.
And if getting threatened to bepunched by shack isn't enough,
I don't know.
I feel like if Shaq punched me,I would go into a different
time zone or a state.
I would fly across and end upin Portugal somehow, or
something.
That is one person I would notwant to get punched by.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That is true, that is true.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, speaking about appearances and looking, this is
something that has been aconspiracy for a long time of
mine.
Stevie Wonder finally addressedrumors of him not being blind
at a recent concert.
So I don't know if you're likeme and you've seen these videos
already of him like reaching fora microphone or waving hello,
but there's been a big talk inthe Internet about how Stevie
Wonder has been able to see andthat him being blind is just a
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ruse.
He recently spoke out aboutthis at a concert in Wales and
said you know the truth.
The truth is, shortly after mybirth I became blind, he told
the audience now that was ablessing because it allowed me
to see the world in the visionof truth, of sight.
I'm sticking with my conspiracyof that.
I believe he's blind, but I'malso not quite sure now you know
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what?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that he
can see shadows.
He can't see, okay, okay so Iguess he can see movement, but
he can't really, you know, seecolors or see shapes or anything
.
So he, he could be legallyblind, but but you know, still
see something.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And my other take on this is Stevie Wonder is just so
good that he wouldn't have tolike fake blindness Like I don't
think that would really helphim just because he is that good
and also if he is keeping upthis ruse the whole time, that
he could just say like, wow, Ihad the surgery that now I can
see.
What an amazing miracle youknow.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, and he doesn't strike me as the type of person
that would use controversy tohis benefit.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah Well, talk about using something to your benefit
.
Now, the big thing now iseverybody likes to do these
aerial events at their concerts,where they're flying on cars
and ships and all this otherstuff.
Now we all know what happenedat thece concert, when the car
just stopped in the middle ofthe air yep, yep now recently at
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a katy perry uh, katy perryconcert.
She was riding some kind of umanimal or whatever it was, and
it dropped, luckily.
Luckily it didn't fall all theway, but it dropped to the point
where people were like you know, Do you think that they're
going a little bit too far withthese aerial stunts, or do you
think that should be a part ofwhat they do?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, no.
Also, katy Perry is not havingthe best year altogether.
I feel like whatever voodooKaty Perry did to get famous,
she needs to undo fast becauseshe's literally following, her
stars following.
But yeah, I think, with Beyoncewe talked about, we don't need
people flying through the airdoing acrobatics in cars, and I
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think also, too, these concertsare so fast moving that they
just need to.
I know they're already puttingsecurity in place, but they just
need to like quadruple down,cause it also seems like there's
so many moving parts that it'sjust bound to happen where, like
, something gets unhooked orunscrewed and it just is like a
disaster.
I mean, it's cool.
I think we're expecting moreand more from concerts, just as
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like lighting and everytechnology gets more advanced,
but we don't need it and we needto go back to the basics, and I
don't need to have Katy Perryflying through above me falling
on me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's true, Because the thing that makes it worse,
Meryl and you actually hit thegood point I was trying to make
is it's one thing when they'redoing it on stage, it's another
thing when you're flying over.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I know a lot of people that would like their
dream would be to have Beyoncefall on them and, like you know,
everyone's involved in alawsuit together or something.
But yeah, I think it'sdangerous and I think I think
it's just really unnecessary.
I did see a Billie Eilishconcert.
It was cool because she wentout using almost like a crane
type thing.
She kind of went around.
(28:34):
But that has to be really weirdfor them too, and it's just you
know, know it's cool, but notneeded?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
oh, absolutely, and I'm quite sure that their
managers get a little nervouswhen they do these thoughts too.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, I think so too.
I mean we don't, we don't needit, and maybe if you're going to
stick to it just just like pinkdoes just have it, be you doing
cartwheels across the wholeaudience.
Yeah, that's why I like KellyClarkson, because she's just.
I mean, she does do stuff, butyou don't see her like
somersaulting through there,she's just kind of standing
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there nicely more my speed.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, well, mine is.
I thought it was so silly.
Now I have a birthday coming upin August, so this one I'm
actually planning this now intomy schedule where one man's
quest to break a record forbirthday freebies has gone viral
.
So pretty much this man, clintSavados, built a spreadsheet
with meticulous notes to map outhis birthday route.
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The night before his birthdayhe was up pretty much coming up
with a game plan about like,okay, I'm going to go to Panda
Express, I'm going to go toDunkin' Donuts, and it started
the conversation in some newsstories about what they call
competitive freeloading.
So which is pretty much a planfor people to cash in on their
birthday.
Or you know other big days andpeople take it very seriously
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where they sign up for, uh, youknow like auntie ann's pretzels
and all this stuff and you haveto make denny's and all the
things where you make sure yousign up at least seven days
ahead of time that you're on thelist and then you can see what
you can get.
Um, supposedly you could getlike a free steak dinner from a
steak from black ingussteakhouse near us and there's
some big things.
So I'm actually like I'm goingto look and see, like, how I can
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go about scheduling my day thatway.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hey, you know what?
If they're going to give it toyou, why not?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Exactly Like there's a really great sushi place by us
called Sugarfish.
That's like a really well-knownsushi place and supposedly they
give out a box that's normallylike $48, but you have to be
organized and sign up for theirrewards and everything.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh, wow, and they give the person that for free.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
That's word on the street.
Is that so I need to look intoit myself.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I can report back to everyone what the situation is,
but if so, that's like somethingthat people would pay, and you
know, go to LA and normally payalmost like $50 for I would
think they wouldn't advertisethat that much.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I know I do too, and usually I feel like these kind
of things come with purchase orwith some type of small payment
necessary.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That's true.
That's true.
I mean, I know that I get a lotof free stuff when it comes
around my birthday.
What do you get?
Free cookie here, freeappetizer at this restaurant
over here?
Mostly it's like desserts andstuff like that.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Not any steaks or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I know, see, my plan is to coffee, maybe an Auntie
Anne's pretzel sushi and then asteak dinner.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
You know, you got your whole day planned out
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
It'll end up somehow costing me like $150.
Pretzel sushi and then a steakdinner.
There you go.
You got your whole day plannedout Exactly.
It'll end up somehow costing melike $150.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I just know it, but it's okay, it's the fun of it,
right.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Exactly, it's the fun .
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Well, talk about something that's not so fun.
Recently in Atlanta, beyoncé'sunreleased music was stolen from
her choreographer's car.
So I guess my biggest questionwould be why would that hard
drive or that computer be inyour car?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Something like that.
But I don't know think thatsome somebody got a little
sloppy there because you know,being that, I have a son that's
in music and you know weunderstand the importance of
especially unreleased stuff.
You know, because people stillstop all the time I know I don't
understand at all.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I think like I I mean that almost is asking for
trouble.
I don't know why on earth,unless it's like the most
protected G-Wagon car.
You know that is like locked 10times, but you would think you
would just not do that ever andnot have one.
Hopefully it's backed up andthere's multiple ways to do it,
but no, I would never keepanything in a car.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh, yeah, for the person that stole it.
I think it's kind of dumbbecause you really can't use it,
because it's very easy to proveit's her music, yeah, if you
try to copy it or duplicate itin any kind of way.
So I don't even understand whatyou would be able to gain from
that, and I could be wrong, butI just find it very hard to
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believe that someone's going tomake music identical to what you
made that's not released yet.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I know, I know I've heard of too many musicians even
keeping the gear in their carovernight and then it just gets
stolen out of their car.
I hate that so much.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That is so, so true.
I just hope that it wasn't aninside job.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, oh, yeah, me too.
An inside job?
Yeah, oh, yeah, me too.
Well, that would not be a goodthing.
Nope, not at all.
Lock your cars, hide your music, don't trust anyone, don't
trust your employees.
Um well, speaking of musiciansbad bunny, I love this story.
Bad bunny has given puerto ricoa new influence on the world
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stage, so he's doing his 30 show.
Residency in his homeland ofPuerto Rico and his focus on
culture, music and the issuesmean everything to Puerto Ricans
.
And you know, I think in thepast, like especially with some
of our situation now, puertoRico has had to endure people,
you know, wrongly making fun ofthem and calling them trash and
(34:11):
everything.
I think Puerto Rico is such abeautiful place and has so much
culture and great food and greatpeople and everything.
I love that Bad Bunny is alwayswriting for his home place.
I just think it just seems likethe kind of place that
celebrates good music and goodpeople.
I love to see that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh, absolutely.
The one thing that reallypuzzles me, and, in a way, kind
of angers me at the same time,is you know, people talk about
Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans.
They're Americans.
Yeah, I don't know if peopleunderstand that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I know, yeah, and even if they weren't like I know
people used to talk so badlyabout, like Haiti and everything
.
I'm like if you go there, yougo there.
Of course there's stuff that'snot great, but there's so much
beauty and good culture and goodfood.
You can't make fun of thoseplaces and then be okay about
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Ohio.
I don't know.
There's other places in Americathat are not as nice and
whatever.
Nothing against Ohio, I loveOhio, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I definitely understand what you say.
I mean, you can go to any statein the United States and there
are really really nice placesand there are really really bad
places.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yes, yes.
And to call Puerto Rico trashwhen I can drive, la is one of
the most trashiest places.
Just under the bridge there'sgarbage everywhere.
It really does look like athird world here so a lot of
times, and so and I know placesof new york and any big city, so
it's like I wouldn't.
Anyone that lives in one ofthose cities should not be able
to talk smack on somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh, yeah, because, again, you can look at any city
in the united states and Iguarantee you there's a really
nice area and there's an areayou don't want to be in after
dark yeah, yep, I was just inseattle's like that too, where
it's.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I kept on going back and forth of like this is
beautiful, and I'm like, ew,this is disgusting.
You know, like I don't, I'mnever gonna ride in the subway
again, and so it's just uh, um,yeah, but I love that and I
think I love how proud thepeople in puerto rico are for
bad money, and I think that theyshould be so absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I've never been to Puerto Rico, but I definitely
want to go there one day.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It's cool.
I love like I've been therelike maybe twice and they've
like the old town area.
I really love like the nontouristy.
It's almost like New Orleans,where it's like you don't want
to be in, like the Frenchquarter version.
You know, like I love just thekind of the outskirts and I
thought it was so good and thepeople were so nice and like I
loved it yeah, I would imaginethat the best time you can have
(36:34):
visiting a place is when youactually get shown around by
somebody who lives there yeah,you would love the food there
too.
I feel like I every time I go.
I like I don't know, I'm flyinghome like I'm stuffed to the
gills hey well, you're onvacation.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You gotta enjoy yourself, right exactly, yeah,
so good well, talking aboutenjoying yourself.
My last topic.
This one's an interesting one.
Here there is a new show calleddancing with the sharks and
people watching and listening.
Yes, this is a real show, oh mygosh.
And basically what the show is.
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People are jumping in withsharks and they're doing dancing
.
You know different type ofchoreographed dancing underwater
with sharks?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Now me personally, I wouldn't even want to be in
water with sharks, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So let me ask you a question Meryl, if you had the
opportunity, would you get onthat show?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
No, not at all.
Maybe, like Swimming withManatees is definitely the one
I'd want to do, but no, no, notdancing with sharks, not even
dancing with stars or anything.
But no, I would not, Even ifthe prize was so great or
anything.
I mean, I don't think anyonewould want to see me dance with
sharks, but I just wouldn't takethe chance.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know With me.
Personally, I would not doanything with wild animals.
Here's the thing you can callthem being as strange as they
want.
If they get spooked orsomething happens, you're
screwed.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I don't even really like being underwater as much
too.
I don't want to do anythingwhere I'm submerged underwater
for a long time.
I also think too, doesn't?
What were you gonna say?
I was just gonna say doesn'tthis show also seem like a fake
idea where, like the executivesat abc, just sit around and say
like what, what can we come upwith?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
that's just a ridiculous show premise that
does kind of seem like itdoesn't it doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
It just seems like some of the shows, like the
reality shows between love isblind and all these island
things, are just like I don'tknow.
Could we really come up withsome better ideas?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, like there was this one show called Deal or no
Deal that used to be on.
Oh yeah, howie Mandel was onthat.
I loved that show.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Was that like the two cases?
Yes, yeah, howie Mandel was onthat.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I loved that show.
Was that with the suitcases?
Yes, they did a remake of itwhere deal or no deal, island
something or whatever.
It was kind of stupid,literally.
I watched it for a few secondsand turned away.
Oh my gosh.
Certain classics you leavealone.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I know I just heard about this podcaster that I used
to like that I don't anymore.
Him and his wife are being outwith the show about, um, like
age gaps and relationships, andlike they're trying to get like
the 50s together with the 20s.
I'm just like we just we'regetting dumber as a society.
I think this is not helping.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
But you know the crazy thing that shows probably
gonna do pretty well.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I it will be, but I feel like it's just kind of not
moving anyone forward.
Yeah, I won't be watching, butyeah, well, my last one was
remember a few months ago whenJane's Addiction went on tour
and then we talked about thelead singer, perry Farrell, and
Dave Navarro got into a fistfight.
We covered it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about it was
(39:54):
like their big reunion show andI think they had one show that
went well and then, like thesecond show, it just everything
broke loose and so now, um,they're all suing each other in
true band fashion after a fightbroke out at the reunion tour.
This is just like if everyonecould have seen this coming.
Um, so last year we know thatJane's Addiction had their first
batch of shows in 14 years andthen singer Perry Farrell
(40:17):
attacked guitarist Dave Navarroand, like you know, the video
was out there and I thought Ithought Dave Navarro handled it
pretty well, where you couldtell his patience was just being
tested and tested, and thenfinally he did snap, but it was
just kind of like,understandable, perry Farrell
was definitely flipping,flipping out.
So now they're all suing eachother like for, uh, emotional
(40:38):
distress, negligence, breach ofcontract.
It's just like a whole million,you know, 10 million dollar in
damages for the front man.
So it just seems like a nutstype of thing.
Not to mention they really lettheir fans down a lot, because
it's like they definitely, youknow, a lot of people were
looking forward to this so muchand they just, you know, let
their fans down.
So I don't know, what do youthink?
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yeah, it's kind of ridiculousright, it's like egos on ego and
like I mean, I'm sure davenavarro and the other band
members are probably so madbecause this was their plan to
go on tour and to make moneyagain and be out on the road,
and it's just like I.
I think the lead singerdefinitely needs some extra help
, or he always has, but yeah,they say why they were fighting
(41:21):
in the first place I think perryis just known to be very like
volatile and I don't know whoknows about drug situation or
not, but I think he was drivingthem crazy and just like acting
very erratic.
You hate to see that you reallydo I know, I know, and it's sad
when people like mental illnessor drug, whatever it was like,
(41:43):
when it's ruining the experiencefor fans and bands and I'm sure
they're not.
There are no angels either.
I'm sure there's like a lot ofstuff behind the scenes, but
it's so sad when they're justsuing each other because it
really just should be about themusic and about, you know, good
times and making fans happy.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
It really is, and you know the reality is is that the
person who's going to thepeople who are going to win are
going to be the lawyers whenit's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Because I can see this being dragged out for a
long, ridiculous amount of timebecause in the end it probably
was something stupid.
Yeah, I get it.
You know some things are veryirritable and you know kind of
gets in your nerves and stuff.
But when you get out there toperform, people don't want to
come see you clown like that,you know.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Exactly, I know.
Yep, it's sad.
I don't know if you've had thistoo, but so many of my favorite
bands are now not great witheach other.
They've been suing each other.
There's nothing worse for amusic fan just to see you feel
like mommy and daddy arefighting.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, that's true.
It's really a shame and I'veseen it where you have these
great bands, great groups, theydo well, they're very successful
, and then something happens,and then now they can't stand
each other.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, yep, too sad.
If I was the judge I'd be likeget it together, boys.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I wonder how much of that is ego over everything else
, though?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I bet at least like 65%, and then the other half is
probably like drugs, mentalillness, people in each other's
ears and everything that is sotrue, so so true.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Well, this has been a great I know well, meryl, what
do you have coming up?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
um, I am very excited .
I have a show this sunday andone of my favorite places in
burbank called flappers and it'scalled Celebrity Sundays, so
very excited.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Nice, that sounds like a lot of fun, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I will not be flying through the air on a car.
I hate to tell everyone thatwhat?
No aerodynamics or anythingExactly.
No one wants to see me swimwith sharks or go over a crowd.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well, everyone, if you don't like swimwear shorts,
you can watch and listen to us.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
How's that Sounds even better, much safer.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Well, everyone, thank you for watching and for
listening.
We really appreciate yoursupport.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I'm Meryl Clemo Sure is sure do Bye-bye.
Hello everyone, Welcome to this week's episode
of Thirsty Topics.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And I am Meryl Clemo.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey Meryl, how are you doing today?
I'm so good I feel like thenews is juicy today yes, it is,
yes, it is yeah, we've got somejuicy news yes, we're gonna jump
right in because we got a lotto go over.
Yep, um, I do want to start offand we just found this out that
um actor malcolm jamal warnerhas just passed away from an
(00:45):
accidental drowning.
He's been known for doing allkinds of great works, but I
think his most memorable wouldbe the Cosby Show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, yeah, and he's had a great career after.
I feel like he's one of thoseactors that had a, was able to
have a great reputation aroundHollywood and still stay very
active.
And yeah, it's very shocking.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, it's one of those situations where, sadly,
it's a rarity to have a childstar that actually successful as
an adult star, as well.
So it was very shocking.
I know I love watching theCosby show and I also like this
show.
I think it's called Malcolm andEddie.
I love watching the Cosby showand I also like this show.
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I think it's called Malcolm andEddie.
When him and Eddie Griffin JrPlayed on this comedy show, it
came on weekly when they owned arestaurant.
And they were also roommates.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
So I like this show too.
That's cute and, as we'rerecording, the news is just
breaking.
But I always think about thiskind of stuff when I feel like
the news travels so fast nowthat sometimes family and
friends hear about it at thesame point that we do too.
You know, so hopefully I'm surehis immediate family knows
about this.
But, like I just think,sometimes TMZ and all these
(01:57):
places put out informationbefore like most of the person's
friends and you know close-ishfamily hear about it.
So I hope that people have hada time, like time, to at least
digest the information yeah, Iagree with you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I think the worst thing is when your family finds
out through the news media yeahyeah, directly.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
You know, it kind of puts a little sour taste in your
mouth, you know right andpeople are so, and as news
consumers, obviously, if we, wetalk about this kind of stuff
for our living.
But it's also sometimes more ofthe salacious outlets try to
get all the details and all theeverythings and it's like
everyone always just needs towait a minute before.
But I think the main point isjust that that's so sad and
(02:39):
shocking.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, let me ask you this what's your greatest memory
of Malcolm Jamal Warner?
It could be a personal one, oreven from his acting careers.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh wow, I think, absolutely.
I feel like on the Cosby showthey did a really great job of
showing that handsome, cool,popular people could still be
really nice.
And I feel like his.
I'm sure it was a mixture oflike who he was as a person and
his character in the writing,but I just always thought of him
as like really kind and reallyopen and I just thought he did a
(03:08):
good job for showing, liketeenager boys, that you can be
hot and and nice at the sametime too, you know you know what
that's true?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I mean, one of my biggest memories from the cosby
show is really not a particularshow, but basically his overall
character.
Um, because the cosby show brokea lot of barriers back then,
because it broke the stereotypeof what a black family looked
like yeah, yep and the otherthing that it did, too, is show
(03:37):
that, yes, you could belong to avery positive, strong family
and still be a kid, still do thestupid stuff that kids do right
, and you learn from it and youmove forward.
You know it wasn't fake, andwhat I mean by that is is like
he wasn't the perfect role model.
Never make a mistake because,yeah, that's not a kid, that's
that's right, but you could tellhe was still nice yes, yes, yes
(04:01):
, so and um, I think he had awife and a child that he left
behind as well, too.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's so sad, so shocking and weird.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, I mean I kind of am interested as to how that
accidental drowning happened.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I know.
I mean, there's so many waysI've been hearing about that
lately.
I think in Lake Tahoe by usthere was someone whose boat
capsized and they drowned reallyquickly.
Tahoe by us, there was someonewhose their boat capsized and
they drowned really quickly.
I think you know it's just.
I feel like around water peoplealways have to be so careful,
no matter if you're an adult ora child or whatever.
You know, it's just, things canhappen quickly.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That's a good point, cause I know here in Chicago you
know a lot of people like to godown to the beach, just like
Michigan, and you know there'ssometimes where the rip current
is like really strong and theytell people, you know, stay out
of water, and you'll have somepeople that feel, hey, I'm a
great, I'm a very strong swimmer.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Take it and then you know there's.
There's been some people that'slost their lives, even strong
swimmers, because, again, ifthat current is so strong, it
can literally pull you down.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes, yeah, totally, and there's certain lakes that
I've heard about too, where it'slike the roots are down there
and if your foot gets caught onit, it's just, yeah, it's so
scary.
So, yeah, all I see is justthat he passed away on a family
trip um but yeah, I'm sure we'll.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
We'll learn more by the time this comes, comes out
that's actually even worse to beon a family trip, though I know
, I know, oh, one more thing tooabout him.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I forgot he did do a lot for mental health.
I know he spoke out a lot about, just you know, depression and
anxiety and all that stuff, andI thought that was that was good
too.
Like he seemed to make hiscelebrity matter to people and
like try to do things with hisname.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh, absolutely.
And you know, the thing is, hewasn't, he wasn't afraid to
speak up, you know yeah.
I remember, when you know, whenyou know, bill Cosby had his
legal troubles, you know, and hestood up, you know, to say hey,
he's with him, you know, hesupports.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And you know some people thought it was a great
thing he did.
Some people thought maybe itwasn't the smartest thing, but
you know he stood on hisprinciples.
And yeah, but you know he stoodon his principles and yeah, but
to respect the person for that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Absolutely the only other Cosby person I hear from a
lot is like I mean notpersonally but on podcast is I
feel like I see who's the onethat played Urkel as a Jaleel
White, or yeah, I feel like he'sout and about on the circuit a
lot too.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I wonder if him and.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Malcolm.
He was on the Cosby show, oh,that's right.
He was on Family Matters,that's right.
Whoops, other strong Blackfamily shows I forgot.
I feel like the Cosby showshould have had an Urkel too.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Did they ever have a crossover?
The thing about it is you'reright.
You know, Jaleil White has a.
I think he has a game show nowthat's on TV, now that he does.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, oh my gosh, that's totally right.
Everyone can laugh at me forthat.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I think he has.
Don't quote me on this, but Ihear supposedly he has some kind
of cannabis business too.
I don't know if it's true ornot.
Wow, so just think Urkel'sdoing pot now.
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I know it makes sense .
I feel like that would in 2025,that sounds exactly the type of
sentence that we would say.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Well, let's definitely give our condolences
to Malcolm's family, his friends, and definitely let them know
that we're praying for him.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Absolutely Okay.
Okay, well, not to completelychange the subject, but the
thing that everyone has beentalking about this week that I
couldn't wait to hear yourthoughts on it was I mean,
there's so many things to talkabout with this situation the
Coldplay concert affair beingcaught.
As I'm sure everyone knows evenif you are living under a rock,
I'm sure it's made its way tomost rocks by now the tech CEO
(07:47):
that went viral, andy byron, andhis uh affair partner.
I mean and this is all alleged.
Of course, we don't know likewhat this exact situation is,
but it you know the proof was inthe pudding in some ways.
Um, not to have an old cosbyreference, but anyway, the tech
ceo just resigned.
So data tech company astronomerreleased a statement on social
media saying that andy byron hastendered his resignation.
(08:07):
Um, and just to kind of recap,what happened is, at a coldplay
concert, they were showing thekiss cam and they show like a
bunch of different people, andthen it showed, uh, this one man
and woman and instead of justembracing or acting silly, these
people basically ducked forcover and one went one way, the
the other went the other way and, of course, it sparked a whole
big thing and the lead singer,chris Martin, even joked are you
(08:31):
guys having an affair orsomething?
And so then people recognizedthe couple and soon realized, oh
, these people are married, butnot to each other.
And it sparked likeinternational.
I mean I was seeing memes from,like you know, gavin Newsom,
and like companies like apierogi company that I follow
were making funny memes about it.
It's like it's definitely thebiggest thing that we've seen in
(08:53):
a long time and it just broughtup a lot of conversation about
affairs and CEOs and workplacesand you know, like I'm sure the
board of directors was notreally happy about this.
I think allegedly the personthat he was cheating with was
part of the HR department, andso you know that brought up a
(09:17):
whole big thing too.
There's been a couple falsestatements that people I
couldn't find an actualstatement from Andy's wife like
his real wife.
There's been some like fakeones, but as of now I couldn't
find an actual like legit thing.
But I mean I'm sure she'sretaining counsel and I don't
know.
I guess, like there's so manyaspects, what do you want to
talk about about this part of it?
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Wow.
I know there's a lot to unpackin this.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I mean, it's like this Obviously you should not be
cheating.
Okay, that's right.
Everybody knows that Bringingthat person to a large public
event like that, even if theydidn't get caught, was kind of
stupid, because you could runinto anybody at a concert,
especially a big concert, youknow, yeah.
(10:01):
And then the turnaround andthey're hugging on each other
like there's so much in love andyou know, I gotta admit co-play
didn't do them no favors.
When they go hey either they'recheating or they're uh shy.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I was like wow, that was I know, but that seems like
like one of those interventionsfrom the universe.
You know, they always say kindof whatever's happening will
resurface like you know, ifyou're worried about your
partner having an affair, itsomehow always comes across like
I.
I learned about a boyfriendcheating on me when he he meant
to uh message a different womanabout like driving carefully in
the rain.
And then he messaged me but asa girlfriend at the time and I'm
(10:36):
like I'm not driving and it'snot raining out, and then that's
how it happened, but I swearthe universe is always working
to like expose things, I think.
So you just have to have likefaith in that.
And then I feel like for thiswife, that's probably what
happened, like he probably toldher, oh, don't worry about this,
or you know, I'm just going tothe concert with some friends or
co-workers and then it's likethe whoever or whatever did
(10:59):
their job and then like it'snational news oh yeah, and you
and you know the other thing too, meryl, is that, besides the
obvious with those two, justthink about their spouses.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
How embarrassing.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I know, I know, yeah, I feel like it's embarrassing,
but wouldn't you?
I would feel a little bithappier if this was the
situation, cause you have, likethe whole internet on your side
and I feel like I would feelless embarrassed because of me
and more Like I saw so manyvideos of women, older women,
(11:30):
just saying to the wife ifyou're watching this, we have
your back.
I would just feel like I have awhole army of people just there
for me.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh yeah, and the thing is for a CEO and head of
HR.
I mean, you can't get any worsethan that in a company.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I know, I know, I know, and supposedly she's
married to the CEO and, like Ibet, I bet he's going to tell
her it wasn't that serious, wewere just having a moment, or
you know, like I bet he's goingto try to weasel his way out of
it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I mean you know, when you burn a woman like that and
embarrass her like that, I don'tknow.
I mean you know, when you burna woman like that and embarrass
her like that, I don't know.
I mean I could be wrong.
I don't know because, again,it's different if the parties
involved know.
It's another thing when thewhole world knows.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You know I know, and exactly what it involves
children and what it involves,like, I mean, who knows what
would have happened, um, but Ithink do you think he did the
right?
I mean, who knows if would havehappened?
But I think do you think he didthe right.
I mean, who knows if he wasgiven a choice or not, but do
you think, like, resigning wasthe right move?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes, I honestly think that he was encouraged to
resign.
I don't think he did that onhis own.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, I have a or like.
A part of me sometimes feelslike and it's different on every
circumstance, but I do feellike sometimes, when you get
married and you make vows andyou're like legally married,
part of me does feel like whenyou cheat, I do feel like it
should be some type of like fineor violation or you know, then
(12:58):
we're, I know, then we're kindof getting into like church and
state and it's gettingeverything like I understand.
But a part of me does feel,like you, you should have like a
big penalty when you cheat on,like a marriage where there's
assets and like I don't know,because you're wasting someone's
time and money and energy well,you know, the thing is is that
all marriages have its ups anddowns, all marriage, yeah, yeah
(13:20):
you talk it out, you know, andif it gets that bad where you
need to cheat, just leave.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Exactly, I hear sometimes people go well, we
grew apart, this person doesn'tsatisfy my needs, or whatever.
Well, my philosophy is well,welcome to the real world.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Exactly, and that happens, yeah, totally, and I
think that's understandable.
But I feel like so manymarriages end so horribly when
they don't need to, because it'slike you betray the person
instead of just being honest andsay, oh, it's run its course or
you know, let's like dissolvethis nicely.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Oh yeah, and the reality is the wife for the CEO
Took down all of her socialmedia.
Now I'm assuming and I could bewrong that she may have gotten
some, some may have gotten somepeople that put some things in
there for support, but, with theembarrassment of that, she
(14:12):
probably didn't want anyone tobe commenting on her stuff, so
she shut it down, which Itotally understand.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Exactly and of course we don't know the situation,
and I'm sure you feel this wayas a man, but like as a woman,
and I definitely didn't feelthis way in my twenties but I
think as you get older you justlearn like I would never that
such bad woman code to even dothat and I definitely think it's
karma, like I think anytimethat I've been trifling in the
past you know like like you getthat back times a million and so
(14:40):
I think it's just not goodkarma.
You shouldn't do it to otherpeople.
It's just kind of weird.
Everyone was saying too here'sthis man that you're having an
affair with, and the minute thecamera comes on you, he
discarded of her and didn'tprotect her at all.
You could tell they're clearlyboth embarrassed.
Double down, stand by it.
If you guys are into each otherthat much, it's too late.
(15:03):
You can't deny it at this point,you know yeah, it looked and I
was seeing all these ai thingsof what they should have done
instead and it was so funny.
They were like having him likefly up a superman and being like
we're here you know, thecraziest thing and you touched
on it earlier is the memes.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
That's all over social media everybody I know
everybody's doing the.
You know the camera thing whereyou put the camera on there and
then you zip in differentdirections.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I'm like wow, exactly the Phillies.
And then I saw Gavin Newsommade one of like Trump and
Epstein and, of course, like Ihonestly, if I was this woman I
would feel ridiculous, butthere's something about knowing
that, like, millions of peoplehave your back.
That would give you thestrength to do it.
And I hope she doesn't take himback and, of course, we don't
(15:46):
know these people's lives at allbut, like it, I feel like if
you take a cheater back likethree times, then it becomes one
of those kind of like shame onyou type of situations, but I
also have strong viewpointsabout it yeah, and I think he's
going to have a hard time in thecareer because, um, you know, a
lot of companies are going tobe a little bit leery about
bringing him on because of thatbaggage.
I know Yep, and I hope hedoesn't also go the route of
(16:09):
like pretending to, like I'mchecking myself into a center to
see what's wrong with me.
It's like, just own it.
I was having an affair Like youknow.
Say, say exactly what it wasand like move forward with that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And here's the crazy thing If he has children that
are at least teenagers or older,how do you explain that to them
?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
I know.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I mean you know that if he has children that's a
little bit older, that meansthey're probably getting teased
and harassed a little bitbecause of what he did.
So how do you have thatconversation?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
You know, I know, and the very side thing is everyone
making fun of Coldplay.
They're actually an amazingconcert to go to.
So not to bring your side pieceout, but Coldplay people were
making fun of them like at aColdplay concert.
I'm like they've actually.
Coldplay is an amazing show.
They have like really greatlighting and everything.
But yeah, I just think, andfrom what I've heard too, and
(17:05):
everything but um, yeah, I, Ijust think, and from what I've
heard too, that the woman, hrperson, like people have not
liked working with her and forher.
So I feel like a lot of stuffis coming out.
There's people I saw somethreads of people saying like oh
, wow, I can't believe this isout, like I used to work with
kristin directly and likethey're they're spilling the tea
wow, they said that she's aserial cheater.
Wow, really, yep, and of coursewe don't know.
(17:26):
This is all alleged, of course,but that's what the internet is
saying.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I tell you one thing they sure did.
I mean this story, Merle, and Ikid you not, was on the news,
it was on Good Morning America,it was on the View and all these
other talk shows.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean it's really hitting the spectrum.
Yeah, exactly I was listeningto like a podcast with a crisis
PR person and she was sayingthis week is the worst time to
have a scandal the whole yearbecause, like September, bigger
news kicks up and we have moreserious news.
But she said like the beginning, middle of July is like the
slowest news time, so anythingthat hits, and then it basically
(18:06):
hits for the whole summer.
So she was like this is likethe worst day historically to
have something go viral, becausewe're all just kind of like
bored and watching Jurassic parkand everything and you know
there's no like, there's notthat many politics stuff
happening right now, so yeah,yeah, that makes sense, that
makes sense.
Whatever those people did to getcaught, the universe was on the
(18:26):
the wife's side.
So much by just bringing thisto light and like the chances
that coldplay would put thecamera on them and everything do
you think it was cold for themto say, hey, either they're
cheating or they're shy?
no, I think that's hystericaland he probably didn't know.
I feel like if you're standingthere and you put the spotlight
on two people and they act thatway, I feel like that would be
the normal assumption.
(18:46):
I'm like what did we just catch, you know?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
That is so true.
Talk about catching.
I'm quite sure you know whoShaq is.
Yeah, probably know who RG3 is.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well, shaq had made a statement and it was directed
directly towards RG3.
To give you a little bit ofbackstory, rg3 has been
basically not a big Andrew Reesefan.
He's talking all this stuffabout her and her going against
Kaylin and all this stuff likethis Kate and Clark, and it's to
(19:28):
me it's gotten a little bit outof hand.
But, I think where it reallyreally went overboard.
I saw little clips of it whereI guess RG3 was making comments
about Andrew Rhys and thenbasically made Andrew Rhys look
like a monkey.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And you know his wife was in the background.
The reason that's important ishis wife is white, he's black,
so you can kind of see where theoptics are in this yeah, it's
unbelievable and you know, theone thing that I don't
understand is the obsession withangel reese, because she's been
, he's been really riding herkind of hard and you know,
(20:14):
basically shaq, well, it's not.
Basically he said, jack saidthat.
If you know, you say one morething about Angel Reese, I'm
going to punch you in the effingface.
Really, he actually said that.
So that's really out of hischaracter, because you know,
shaq doesn't really do that butyou know, Shaq is more like a
big brother, like a mentor toAngel.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Exactly, I love that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
I think sometimes violence is needed in that kind
of way, but I guess I don't know.
I mean to me the monkey,putting her as a monkey that
kind of hits me a certain way.
That hits me in a real bad wayand the optics don't look good.
You know, if you want to have aperson outside of your race
that happens to be a differentrace, that's fine.
You know, if you want to have aperson outside of your race
that happens to be a differentrace, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know that's your life, whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
But the optics of what he did, and what he did to
Andrew Reese to me was totallyuncalled for.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I think that was cost-efficient.
Absolutely, I agree.
I think it's one thing like youdon't have to like everyone,
you don't have to be a fan ofeveryone.
But when you don't have to be afan of everyone, but when you
start doing that, that should bejust grounds for getting your
platform taken away.
And I love that Shaq's stickingup for her, and in this day and
age, in any day and age, butthat's just completely uncalled
(21:30):
for.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Oh yeah, and the one thing that people got to
understand too, once you reallymake it big in entertainment or
sports, there's a thing in thatcontract called the morality
clause.
So with that morality clause,you create enough nonsense about
something that you say or dothat can void your contract, yep
, so he needs to be carefulabout that as well too.
(21:54):
Yeah, because that's a realthing, and we could think back
in the past where you know,either celebrities, athletes,
have either done or saidsomething stupid and that cost
them their career yeah, I'venever seen someone who just
wants to play basketball so muchas angel reese, that has to
deal with so much like sidechatter and drama.
(22:14):
It's unbelievable it really is.
And you know the thing is,taylor Clark really isn't the
nicest person either, becauseI've seen her throw some elbows,
push people down.
She's not an angel.
She's a great player, but she'sno angel, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Right.
Yeah, I think it's funny toobecause, like I mean, I think a
lot of men in sports have toendure this too, but it's like
the women have to also deal withso much and, like you know, not
only there are people callingthem like bad players, but
making fun of every single thing, and it's just like I could
just imagine if I was them.
It's like I just want to playbasketball.
I'll be left alone yeah, that'strue.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I do commend uh shaq for speaking up, because shaq
said and I don't know if it'strue or not, but he stated that
the reason why Angel Reese isn'tsaying anything is he's telling
her.
You know what?
Ignore it, you know.
Don't respond back to it.
And you know he said the reasonshe ain't saying that is
because I told her not to sayanything.
You know, just ignore thisnonsense, but he's gotten to the
(23:12):
point where he's tired of it.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Absolutely.
I think it's totally okay likewe talk about memes and stuff
like I've definitely laughed atsome things about just Angel
Rees, like missing shots and youknow, like just lighthearted
stuff, like where it's notattacking someone's character or
race or anything.
It's just like silly about thesame way that you would about
like Jake Paul boxing or youknow what I mean, like any mean,
(23:43):
like any type of athlete likethat's, that's fine and it's
silly.
I think if you want to lightheartedly like laugh at someone,
like missing something or youknow just taking a shot at them
that way, but, um, when it getsinto, this territory.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's just not right.
Oh yeah, I mean talking abouthow a person plays, whether they
play good or bad or whatever.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay, that's fine you know, yeah, yeah, everyone
feels that way about certainteams and certain players.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I just feel that putting her as a monkey, that's
personal.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, absolutely the internet can be so toxic.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It really is.
And the thing is, you know yougot to ask this question because
he's talking about her all thetime is what is the obsession
with her?
You know?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
seriously, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So hopefully he calms this down, but, um, like I said
, it's it's not a good look, butI have a feeling that sponsors
are probably going to whisper inhis ear.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You need to move on to a different subject yeah, I
agree, but good for shack, andhe's probably just had enough.
And if getting threatened to bepunched by shack isn't enough,
I don't know.
I feel like if Shaq punched me,I would go into a different
time zone or a state.
I would fly across and end upin Portugal somehow, or
something.
That is one person I would notwant to get punched by.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That is true, that is true.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Well, speaking about appearances and looking, this is
something that has been aconspiracy for a long time of
mine.
Stevie Wonder finally addressedrumors of him not being blind
at a recent concert.
So I don't know if you're likeme and you've seen these videos
already of him like reaching fora microphone or waving hello,
but there's been a big talk inthe Internet about how Stevie
Wonder has been able to see andthat him being blind is just a
(25:16):
ruse.
He recently spoke out aboutthis at a concert in Wales and
said you know the truth.
The truth is, shortly after mybirth I became blind, he told
the audience now that was ablessing because it allowed me
to see the world in the visionof truth, of sight.
I'm sticking with my conspiracyof that.
I believe he's blind, but I'malso not quite sure now you know
(25:40):
what?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard that he
can see shadows.
He can't see, okay, okay so Iguess he can see movement, but
he can't really, you know, seecolors or see shapes or anything
.
So he, he could be legallyblind, but but you know, still
see something.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
And my other take on this is Stevie Wonder is just so
good that he wouldn't have tolike fake blindness Like I don't
think that would really helphim just because he is that good
and also if he is keeping upthis ruse the whole time, that
he could just say like, wow, Ihad the surgery that now I can
see.
What an amazing miracle youknow.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, and he doesn't strike me as the type of person
that would use controversy tohis benefit.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah Well, talk about using something to your benefit
.
Now, the big thing now iseverybody likes to do these
aerial events at their concerts,where they're flying on cars
and ships and all this otherstuff.
Now we all know what happenedat thece concert, when the car
just stopped in the middle ofthe air yep, yep now recently at
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a katy perry uh, katy perryconcert.
She was riding some kind of umanimal or whatever it was, and
it dropped, luckily.
Luckily it didn't fall all theway, but it dropped to the point
where people were like you know, Do you think that they're
going a little bit too far withthese aerial stunts, or do you
think that should be a part ofwhat they do?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yes, no.
Also, katy Perry is not havingthe best year altogether.
I feel like whatever voodooKaty Perry did to get famous,
she needs to undo fast becauseshe's literally following, her
stars following.
But yeah, I think, with Beyoncewe talked about, we don't need
people flying through the airdoing acrobatics in cars, and I
(27:30):
think also, too, these concertsare so fast moving that they
just need to.
I know they're already puttingsecurity in place, but they just
need to like quadruple down,cause it also seems like there's
so many moving parts that it'sjust bound to happen where, like
, something gets unhooked orunscrewed and it just is like a
disaster.
I mean, it's cool.
I think we're expecting moreand more from concerts, just as
(27:51):
like lighting and everytechnology gets more advanced,
but we don't need it and we needto go back to the basics, and I
don't need to have Katy Perryflying through above me falling
on me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's true, Because the thing that makes it worse,
Meryl and you actually hit thegood point I was trying to make
is it's one thing when they'redoing it on stage, it's another
thing when you're flying over.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I know a lot of people that would like their
dream would be to have Beyoncefall on them and, like you know,
everyone's involved in alawsuit together or something.
But yeah, I think it'sdangerous and I think I think
it's just really unnecessary.
I did see a Billie Eilishconcert.
It was cool because she wentout using almost like a crane
type thing.
She kind of went around.
(28:34):
But that has to be really weirdfor them too, and it's just you
know, know it's cool, but notneeded?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
oh, absolutely, and I'm quite sure that their
managers get a little nervouswhen they do these thoughts too.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, I think so too.
I mean we don't, we don't needit, and maybe if you're going to
stick to it just just like pinkdoes just have it, be you doing
cartwheels across the wholeaudience.
Yeah, that's why I like KellyClarkson, because she's just.
I mean, she does do stuff, butyou don't see her like
somersaulting through there,she's just kind of standing
(29:07):
there nicely more my speed.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Okay, well, mine is.
I thought it was so silly.
Now I have a birthday coming upin August, so this one I'm
actually planning this now intomy schedule where one man's
quest to break a record forbirthday freebies has gone viral
.
So pretty much this man, clintSavados, built a spreadsheet
with meticulous notes to map outhis birthday route.
(29:33):
The night before his birthdayhe was up pretty much coming up
with a game plan about like,okay, I'm going to go to Panda
Express, I'm going to go toDunkin' Donuts, and it started
the conversation in some newsstories about what they call
competitive freeloading.
So which is pretty much a planfor people to cash in on their
birthday.
Or you know other big days andpeople take it very seriously
(29:55):
where they sign up for, uh, youknow like auntie ann's pretzels
and all this stuff and you haveto make denny's and all the
things where you make sure yousign up at least seven days
ahead of time that you're on thelist and then you can see what
you can get.
Um, supposedly you could getlike a free steak dinner from a
steak from black ingussteakhouse near us and there's
some big things.
So I'm actually like I'm goingto look and see, like, how I can
(30:18):
go about scheduling my day thatway.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Hey, you know what?
If they're going to give it toyou, why not?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Exactly Like there's a really great sushi place by us
called Sugarfish.
That's like a really well-knownsushi place and supposedly they
give out a box that's normallylike $48, but you have to be
organized and sign up for theirrewards and everything.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Oh, wow, and they give the person that for free.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
That's word on the street.
Is that so I need to look intoit myself.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I can report back to everyone what the situation is,
but if so, that's like somethingthat people would pay, and you
know, go to LA and normally payalmost like $50 for I would
think they wouldn't advertisethat that much.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I know I do too, and usually I feel like these kind
of things come with purchase orwith some type of small payment
necessary.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That's true.
That's true.
I mean, I know that I get a lotof free stuff when it comes
around my birthday.
What do you get?
Free cookie here, freeappetizer at this restaurant
over here?
Mostly it's like desserts andstuff like that.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Not any steaks or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I know, see, my plan is to coffee, maybe an Auntie
Anne's pretzel sushi and then asteak dinner.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
You know, you got your whole day planned out
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
It'll end up somehow costing me like $150.
Pretzel sushi and then a steakdinner.
There you go.
You got your whole day plannedout Exactly.
It'll end up somehow costing melike $150.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I just know it, but it's okay, it's the fun of it,
right.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Exactly, it's the fun .
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Well, talk about something that's not so fun.
Recently in Atlanta, beyoncé'sunreleased music was stolen from
her choreographer's car.
So I guess my biggest questionwould be why would that hard
drive or that computer be inyour car?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I know.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Something like that.
But I don't know think thatsome somebody got a little
sloppy there because you know,being that, I have a son that's
in music and you know weunderstand the importance of
especially unreleased stuff.
You know, because people stillstop all the time I know I don't
understand at all.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I think like I I mean that almost is asking for
trouble.
I don't know why on earth,unless it's like the most
protected G-Wagon car.
You know that is like locked 10times, but you would think you
would just not do that ever andnot have one.
Hopefully it's backed up andthere's multiple ways to do it,
but no, I would never keepanything in a car.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Oh, yeah, for the person that stole it.
I think it's kind of dumbbecause you really can't use it,
because it's very easy to proveit's her music, yeah, if you
try to copy it or duplicate itin any kind of way.
So I don't even understand whatyou would be able to gain from
that, and I could be wrong, butI just find it very hard to
(33:09):
believe that someone's going tomake music identical to what you
made that's not released yet.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I know, I know I've heard of too many musicians even
keeping the gear in their carovernight and then it just gets
stolen out of their car.
I hate that so much.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
That is so, so true.
I just hope that it wasn't aninside job.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, oh, yeah, me too.
An inside job?
Yeah, oh, yeah, me too.
Well, that would not be a goodthing.
Nope, not at all.
Lock your cars, hide your music, don't trust anyone, don't
trust your employees.
Um well, speaking of musiciansbad bunny, I love this story.
Bad bunny has given puerto ricoa new influence on the world
(33:50):
stage, so he's doing his 30 show.
Residency in his homeland ofPuerto Rico and his focus on
culture, music and the issuesmean everything to Puerto Ricans
.
And you know, I think in thepast, like especially with some
of our situation now, puertoRico has had to endure people,
you know, wrongly making fun ofthem and calling them trash and
(34:11):
everything.
I think Puerto Rico is such abeautiful place and has so much
culture and great food and greatpeople and everything.
I love that Bad Bunny is alwayswriting for his home place.
I just think it just seems likethe kind of place that
celebrates good music and goodpeople.
I love to see that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Oh, absolutely.
The one thing that reallypuzzles me, and, in a way, kind
of angers me at the same time,is you know, people talk about
Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricans.
They're Americans.
Yeah, I don't know if peopleunderstand that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I know, yeah, and even if they weren't like I know
people used to talk so badlyabout, like Haiti and everything
.
I'm like if you go there, yougo there.
Of course there's stuff that'snot great, but there's so much
beauty and good culture and goodfood.
You can't make fun of thoseplaces and then be okay about
(35:04):
Ohio.
I don't know.
There's other places in Americathat are not as nice and
whatever.
Nothing against Ohio, I loveOhio, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I definitely understand what you say.
I mean, you can go to any statein the United States and there
are really really nice placesand there are really really bad
places.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yes, yes.
And to call Puerto Rico trashwhen I can drive, la is one of
the most trashiest places.
Just under the bridge there'sgarbage everywhere.
It really does look like athird world here so a lot of
times, and so and I know placesof new york and any big city, so
it's like I wouldn't.
Anyone that lives in one ofthose cities should not be able
to talk smack on somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Oh, yeah, because, again, you can look at any city
in the united states and Iguarantee you there's a really
nice area and there's an areayou don't want to be in after
dark yeah, yep, I was just inseattle's like that too, where
it's.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I kept on going back and forth of like this is
beautiful, and I'm like, ew,this is disgusting.
You know, like I don't, I'mnever gonna ride in the subway
again, and so it's just uh, um,yeah, but I love that and I
think I love how proud thepeople in puerto rico are for
bad money, and I think that theyshould be so absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I've never been to Puerto Rico, but I definitely
want to go there one day.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It's cool.
I love like I've been therelike maybe twice and they've
like the old town area.
I really love like the nontouristy.
It's almost like New Orleans,where it's like you don't want
to be in, like the Frenchquarter version.
You know, like I love just thekind of the outskirts and I
thought it was so good and thepeople were so nice and like I
loved it yeah, I would imaginethat the best time you can have
(36:34):
visiting a place is when youactually get shown around by
somebody who lives there yeah,you would love the food there
too.
I feel like I every time I go.
I like I don't know, I'm flyinghome like I'm stuffed to the
gills hey well, you're onvacation.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
You gotta enjoy yourself, right exactly, yeah,
so good well, talking aboutenjoying yourself.
My last topic.
This one's an interesting one.
Here there is a new show calleddancing with the sharks and
people watching and listening.
Yes, this is a real show, oh mygosh.
And basically what the show is.
(37:11):
People are jumping in withsharks and they're doing dancing
.
You know different type ofchoreographed dancing underwater
with sharks?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Now me personally, I wouldn't even want to be in
water with sharks, I know.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So let me ask you a question Meryl, if you had the
opportunity, would you get onthat show?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
No, not at all.
Maybe, like Swimming withManatees is definitely the one
I'd want to do, but no, no, notdancing with sharks, not even
dancing with stars or anything.
But no, I would not, Even ifthe prize was so great or
anything.
I mean, I don't think anyonewould want to see me dance with
sharks, but I just wouldn't takethe chance.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know With me.
Personally, I would not doanything with wild animals.
Here's the thing you can callthem being as strange as they
want.
If they get spooked orsomething happens, you're
screwed.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I don't even really like being underwater as much
too.
I don't want to do anythingwhere I'm submerged underwater
for a long time.
I also think too, doesn't?
What were you gonna say?
I was just gonna say doesn'tthis show also seem like a fake
idea where, like the executivesat abc, just sit around and say
like what, what can we come upwith?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
that's just a ridiculous show premise that
does kind of seem like itdoesn't it doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
It just seems like some of the shows, like the
reality shows between love isblind and all these island
things, are just like I don'tknow.
Could we really come up withsome better ideas?
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, like there was this one show called Deal or no
Deal that used to be on.
Oh yeah, howie Mandel was onthat.
I loved that show.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Was that like the two cases?
Yes, yeah, howie Mandel was onthat.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I loved that show.
Was that with the suitcases?
Yes, they did a remake of itwhere deal or no deal, island
something or whatever.
It was kind of stupid,literally.
I watched it for a few secondsand turned away.
Oh my gosh.
Certain classics you leavealone.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I know I just heard about this podcaster that I used
to like that I don't anymore.
Him and his wife are being outwith the show about, um, like
age gaps and relationships, andlike they're trying to get like
the 50s together with the 20s.
I'm just like we just we'regetting dumber as a society.
I think this is not helping.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
But you know the crazy thing that shows probably
gonna do pretty well.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I it will be, but I feel like it's just kind of not
moving anyone forward.
Yeah, I won't be watching, butyeah, well, my last one was
remember a few months ago whenJane's Addiction went on tour
and then we talked about thelead singer, perry Farrell, and
Dave Navarro got into a fistfight.
We covered it, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about it was
(39:54):
like their big reunion show andI think they had one show that
went well and then, like thesecond show, it just everything
broke loose and so now, um,they're all suing each other in
true band fashion after a fightbroke out at the reunion tour.
This is just like if everyonecould have seen this coming.
Um, so last year we know thatJane's Addiction had their first
batch of shows in 14 years andthen singer Perry Farrell
(40:17):
attacked guitarist Dave Navarroand, like you know, the video
was out there and I thought Ithought Dave Navarro handled it
pretty well, where you couldtell his patience was just being
tested and tested, and thenfinally he did snap, but it was
just kind of like,understandable, perry Farrell
was definitely flipping,flipping out.
So now they're all suing eachother like for, uh, emotional
(40:38):
distress, negligence, breach ofcontract.
It's just like a whole million,you know, 10 million dollar in
damages for the front man.
So it just seems like a nutstype of thing.
Not to mention they really lettheir fans down a lot, because
it's like they definitely, youknow, a lot of people were
looking forward to this so muchand they just, you know, let
their fans down.
So I don't know, what do youthink?
(41:00):
yeah, it's kind of ridiculousright, it's like egos on ego and
like I mean, I'm sure davenavarro and the other band
members are probably so madbecause this was their plan to
go on tour and to make moneyagain and be out on the road,
and it's just like I.
I think the lead singerdefinitely needs some extra help
, or he always has, but yeah,they say why they were fighting
(41:21):
in the first place I think perryis just known to be very like
volatile and I don't know whoknows about drug situation or
not, but I think he was drivingthem crazy and just like acting
very erratic.
You hate to see that you reallydo I know, I know, and it's sad
when people like mental illnessor drug, whatever it was like,
(41:43):
when it's ruining the experiencefor fans and bands and I'm sure
they're not.
There are no angels either.
I'm sure there's like a lot ofstuff behind the scenes, but
it's so sad when they're justsuing each other because it
really just should be about themusic and about, you know, good
times and making fans happy.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
It really is, and you know the reality is is that the
person who's going to thepeople who are going to win are
going to be the lawyers whenit's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Because I can see this being dragged out for a
long, ridiculous amount of timebecause in the end it probably
was something stupid.
Yeah, I get it.
You know some things are veryirritable and you know kind of
gets in your nerves and stuff.
But when you get out there toperform, people don't want to
come see you clown like that,you know.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Exactly, I know.
Yep, it's sad.
I don't know if you've had thistoo, but so many of my favorite
bands are now not great witheach other.
They've been suing each other.
There's nothing worse for amusic fan just to see you feel
like mommy and daddy arefighting.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, that's true.
It's really a shame and I'veseen it where you have these
great bands, great groups, theydo well, they're very successful
, and then something happens,and then now they can't stand
each other.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, yep, too sad.
If I was the judge I'd be likeget it together, boys.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
I wonder how much of that is ego over everything else
, though?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
I bet at least like 65%, and then the other half is
probably like drugs, mentalillness, people in each other's
ears and everything that is sotrue, so so true.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Well, this has been a great I know well, meryl, what
do you have coming up?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
um, I am very excited .
I have a show this sunday andone of my favorite places in
burbank called flappers and it'scalled Celebrity Sundays, so
very excited.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Nice, that sounds like a lot of fun, thank you.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I will not be flying through the air on a car.
I hate to tell everyone thatwhat?
No aerodynamics or anythingExactly.
No one wants to see me swimwith sharks or go over a crowd.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Well, everyone, if you don't like swimwear shorts,
you can watch and listen to us.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
How's that Sounds even better, much safer.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Well, everyone, thank you for watching and for
listening.
We really appreciate yoursupport.
I'm Lawrence Elrod.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
I'm Meryl Clemo Sure is sure do Bye-bye.
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