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Stefanie & Meredith are back with another hilarious and unhinged episode, diving into the most bizarre government-funded spending, a terrifying new cult, and the absolute madness of the Super Bowl parade.

๐Ÿ’ก What Youโ€™ll Hear in This Episode:
โœ… WTF Government Spending โ€“ Why is the U.S. spending $3 million on hamster steroids & fighting?! ๐Ÿน๐Ÿ’ช
โœ… A Real-Life Murder Cult โ€“ The Zizian cult has links to six deaths across multiple states ๐Ÿ˜ฑ
โœ… Insane Super Bowl Parade Moments โ€“ Over a million fans turned out, but one couple took it to another level...
with a wedding & an ankle monitor! ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ
โœ… Valentineโ€™s Day Pettiness โ€“ A single man in China booked every other seat in a theater to keep couples apart on V-Day ๐Ÿ˜‚
โœ… WTF Laws in Mississippi โ€“ A new bill wants to regulate when men canโ€ฆ
finish ๐Ÿ’€


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๐Ÿ’ฅ Bizarre Government Research: Did you know the U.S. spent millions on cocaine-fueled quails, alcoholic mice, and hamster fight clubs?! ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿธ

๐Ÿ’ฅ New Death Cult on the Loose: The Zizian cult is under investigation for six linked murders across the U.S. (including Chapel Hill, NC!)

๐Ÿ’ฅ Super Bowl Parade Madness: Fans got married at the Eagles parade, and one bride was rocking an ankle monitor! ๐Ÿˆ๐Ÿ’

๐Ÿ’ฅ Petty Valentineโ€™s Day Revenge: A legendary single guy in China found the ultimate way to ruin date night.

๐Ÿ’ฅ Wildest Book Review Yet: Stephanie & Meredith break down A Friend Indeedโ€”a thriller about a toxic friendship, a murder cover-up, and revenge.


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(00:00):
I'm Stephanie.

(00:00):
I'm Meredith.
And welcome to this is mycircus.
What up, homie?
What, what's crackin Crack alackin Crack a lackin I couldn't
remember what I was supposed tosay.
I'm just crack a lackin Youdoing good?
I am.
How are you?
I'm good.
I'm good.
I am excited for our new daydrop.
Yes, so we are now dropping onThursdays.

(00:22):
Yep.
So yeah, be prepared.
So you'll get this on Thursday.
So you're welcome.
Yes.
Now, you know what day it isDays of the week.
Yeah, you've been doing anythingfun?
no, not anything.
Dylan been doing anything fun?
he told me he was getting somestuff done to his truck.
Yeah, he's getting it lifted andthen Squatted and whatever.

(00:45):
he went to the movies lastnight.
Oh, what'd they see?
Is there a new Marvel movie out?
I don't really know.
It was like Late and he came in,he's like, I'm gonna go to the
movies with Jaden and Kaden.
And I was like, okay.
Yeah.
Jaden and Kaden.
Oh, gosh.
So Jaden, he's known sincekindergarten.
Kaden moved here I think infourth or fifth grade.

(01:05):
Okay.
Um, he's actually on the DTteam.
I know, I remember Kaden.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, they all still hang out.
Yeah.
How about Braven?
Jaden, Kaden, Braeden.
I was gonna try to round namesand I couldn't think of anything
else.
Like who am I forgetting?
Braeden.
Jaden, Kaden, Braeden.
So when Dylan was born, like,the name Aiden was like so
popular.
I don't know why I didn't go toAiden! Okay, yeah.

(01:26):
And then I was like, because wedidn't want to do Braeden like a
junior.
Yeah.
And I was like, well, how aboutBraeden?
Brayden.
Yeah.
Like to kind of, because I likethe name Aiden, but it was so
overdone.
Yeah.
And I like Brayden.
He was like, we vetoed eachother's like topics.
We had a million girls names weagreed on, but yes, it was not
it.
Yeah.
What was the girl's name?
Do you remember?
Aubrey.
Oh, that's pretty.
We both liked Aubrey.
And then there was another one.

(01:46):
I can't think of it right now.
We were going to go withGeorgia.
Okay, we're gonna go Georgia.
We liked that but we yeah, wehad a tough time picking out a
name for a boy Yeah, it wasfinally just like something we I
liked like Cameron.
Mm hmm.
Yeah, they did he which liketotally Shocked me throughout
Julian and I was like, nosomebody's gonna call him Jules

(02:07):
or like it's good like it likeI'm short and somehow and then
He was trying to think of like afunny initials.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We are not doing this.
No, no, we're not.
We're not.
We're not.
Dylan was the only name weagreed on.
Yeah.
Jackson was pretty much the onlyone we agreed on.
And I know I just told you this,but I'm going to say it again
for our people.
He did really good lifting lastweek.
so he does the quoteweightlifting class at school

(02:30):
where they do workouts andcardio and all the things to
stay in shape.
And he squatted 500 pounds.
Oh, wow.
And that was the most out ofeverybody.
Yeah.
And, he's a member of thethousand pound club, which does
not mean that he likes thousandpound girls.
As I asked him, it means thathis, his squat, his bench and

(02:50):
something else totaled over athousand pounds.
so he's actually got records atschool now as a sophomore, which
I'm like, holy crap.
He is So athletic.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
I mean, I know he gets it allfrom me.
It's obvious.
So they finished theirbasketball season last week.
Their JV team ended their seasonlike 23 and two or something

(03:10):
very close.
Like only lost like two, maybethree games.
He and two other kids were askedto play with the varsity.
So they dressed out on Fridaynight with the varsity team.
They had a game against CatawbaRidge, and it's Juicy and this
other kid named Naje, and at theend of the game, it was like 40
seconds left, and we were up bylike 11 or something, and they
were going to put him in.
It didn't work out, but we wereall like, this is their time.

(03:33):
You know, we don't expect themto play, right?
It's just the privilege of beingable to dress out and to go.
Right.
He had a three hour practicetoday with them, so we'll see
how that goes.
No, not, but I, uh, no.
And it just, so they're outtaschool this week for the winter
intercession or whatever theycall it.
And he's like, I thought Iwasn't gonna have practice this

(03:54):
week, and here we are.
And I was like, that'll be okay.
It's like two hours a day,you'll be all right.
Yeah.
Well, Dylan only goes to school.
We Mondays and Wednesdays rightnow.
Yeah.
and then are they out tomorrowfor President's Day?
They are.
Mm-hmm But last Wednesday.
I'm the teacher canceled class.
So he's had like an eight dayweekend.
Oh my God.
Which is really good with himwanting to work a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm like, well, make sureyou're doing your assignments

(04:15):
that she's signing.
Cause it's college class.
And that's the thing, I guessthe professors.
They're already learning that,that they'll just cancel or do
whatever.
but he is working a lot, like hewas working today, right?
Yeah.
You're going to take him to somesupper?
He's, I think, sick of foodthere, so.
I get it.
I get it.

(04:35):
Anywhere you go, you don't wantto do it all the time.
Yeah.
I never worked in like a foodsetting.
Yeah.
I always worked at a regularretail store when I was that
age.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I never worked likewhere I prepared food, but I my
sister and I were servers at, aretirement community and we
basically just like cleared thetables and poured coffee and did

(04:57):
kind of like errands for the,for the residents that live
there.
but it wasn't like, I'm makingfood or anything.
I was not.
A cook.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I worked at, let'ssee, I worked at a clothing
store and then I went to, that'swhen DVDs were still a thing.
Yes.
I've worked at a DVD store atthe mall and then I, I went to

(05:18):
Claire's and I worked there fora while.
Did you pierce people's ears?
I did.
We talked about this.
We did.
Don't ever get your earspierced.
They don't really train you.
Did you used to have your bellybutton pierced?
I still do.
You still do?
Did you take it out when you hadDylan?
I had to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then you put it back.
I think I've been pierced.
You went for it?
Believe it or not, I was cuteenough to have mine pierced.
Yeah, I still do.

(05:39):
It's still there.
Dang it.
It is.
but I'm allergic to anythingmetals, that isn't gold, like
real gold.
Yeah.
And so when I initially, well,they use surgical steel, but
when I went to go switch it.
When I first got it done, it gotso infected.
Cause I just use like whatever.
Right.
not realizing.
Right.
And it got really infected.
And then I had to go get like agold, like real gold belly ring.

(06:00):
I always thought when peoplesaid that they were just really
wanting like gold jewelry, notstainless steel.
It's a real thing.
Yeah.
Even wearing rings and stufflike that, like I would get a,
really bad, like almost likeexit.
Okay.
Yeah.
It was bad.
Oh, earrings.
Yeah.
I wear anything but goldearrings.
Yeah.
Even for just like a minuteafter like an hour, they start
itching and then if I leave themin any longer than that, it'll

(06:23):
get crusty and stuff.
It's just like, Oh, it's red.
And well, now I know.
Mm hmm.
Not to buy stuff, anything butgold.
Don't be cheap.
Don't be cheap.
Mm mm.
I will know.
Yes, you will.
You hear that, sugar daddies?
Oh my goodness, that's funny.
so yeah, that's, I don't know,nothing really new for me.
Yeah, nothing new.

(06:43):
Well, I did also figure out thatJackson is my child.
I would hope I've been wonderingfor a while, thinking he
might've gotten switched becausehe, he and I act alike as far as
temperament and humor and thingslike that.
But I'm a reader.
He does not want to open a book.
I love the beach until recently.

(07:05):
He was not a beach kid.
And I think it's because he wasbored.
Like, yeah.
there was really never anythingthat we had to do in, you know,
nothing much together.
And then he was like, mama, Iwatched this documentary.
And I was like, wait a minute,let me just absorb this.
He watched one of thosedocumentaries about, the
mattress stores, being likewhere money is laundered.

(07:26):
Yeah, yeah.
And he was like, it was veryinteresting.
I was like, I'm so proud of youright now.
I know.
Well, speaking of, I watchedthat series that we talked about
last week, which one on Netflix,based off of the Australian
girl.
Oh yeah.
Apple cider vinegar.
Yeah.
So it was okay.
Okay.
It was like, not great.

(07:46):
I think they could have done itand like, Made it just into like
a movie.
Yeah, not like a six part seriesor whatever.
Okay.
but it was, I mean, it was okay.
It was okay.
I started watching GilmoreGirls.
Did you?
It's cute.
You never watched it?
No.
It's, it's cute.
So I'm just like four episodesin maybe.
Does it get, more drama ish?
Yeah.
Because I, okay.

(08:07):
Cause I feel like it's, it'sjust a lot right now at the
beginning with the girl and Thegrandparent.
Yes.
So the first season is kind ofgetting to know all the
characters Okay, and then itgets into like like I'll need
girlfights or any boyfriends andnone of that is going on, right?
Right.
Yeah, so I think the secondseason is okay We'll pop into
that.
but if you wanted drama, I toldyou to watch Gossip Girl I

(08:30):
thought you said Gilmore Girls.
Gossip Girl.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, I suck.
But I watched Gilmore Girls whenit was on.
That's like a cult following.
Yeah, I think maybe that's whatit was.
Gossip Girl.
Cause I kept like, where's mycloth?
No, Gossip Girl.
Okay.

(08:51):
so I didn't even catch that whenI went back and listened to the
podcast.
Talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
and then I also watched a movie'cause I just needed background.
Yeah.
Which, while I was working onthe episodes, uploading'em
mm-hmm and it was calledHoneymoon Crashers.
Okay.
And I think you would enjoy it.
Okay.
It's just a goofy, like Okay.
Comedy type of movie.
But, the guy's wife leaves himright before the wedding mm-hmm

(09:13):
And so he takes his mom on thehoneymoon.
Okay.
And because they wanted all thefree stuff.
Yeah.
they told them that they were,Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
You got a lot.
It was, that sounds real cute.
It was cute.
Yeah.
That sounds funny.
I started watching though.
because Gilmore girls, it's nota rough show.
No, like it's not, there's, youknow, and I need some grit.
so I started watching, you know,it comes up with the, you might

(09:36):
like this, Goliath and it'sBilly Bob Thornton and he is,
you know, he's really rougharound that.
Well, yeah, and he, but he's,he's nothing he has ever in as
he like a laid back, wholesomedude.
Yeah.
but it's where he is anattorney.
He started this big megapractice, but he's not with the
practice anymore.
And we're figuring out why.

(09:57):
And he's, it's almost like anAaron Brockovich thing where
he's like fighting for thelittle guy kind of thing.
but then it's also got a lot ofGrit, like I said in it.
Did you like Dexter?
Yes, but I never finishedDexter.
I don't know why, but I got likeseveral seasons in.
Paramount Plus, just releasedlike a prequel.
The New Blood or something?

(10:18):
Yeah, it's, um, Original Sin.
Yes, yes.
So I started, I just startedwatching it.
Okay.
It's, I'm like three episodesin.
Interesting.
Yeah, you kind of see how hecame.
Yeah, which you get some ofthat.
Right, but it's like his firstkill.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, and like.
Probably good.
you know, his dad kind ofsupporting it, but not really.

(10:40):
And it's, yeah, it's right.
It's kind of scaled back fromthe real Dexter.
I I'm only three episodes in.
Right.
I don't know, but Brian and Ihave been watching as our
bonding time, you know, tryingto find something we both agree
on is a night.
Mayor.
Yeah.
But we've been watching Sons ofAnarchy.
Oh, that's awesome.
I love that show.

(11:00):
I love that show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
but I've watched it all the waythrough.
He's in a, new, serial killerdocumentary, not documentary,
but like they made a show basedoff of, is the Happy Face Killer
maybe?
I don't know.
Okay.
He's, he's gonna be, a serialkiller in a show.
Okay.
Okay.
well, we have, don't, don'tsully him like that.
Don't sully him.

(11:21):
Well, you know, it's, there's alot in Sons of Anarchy that's
like political and not just likereal legit politics, but like
between the motorcycle clubs andall that.
So we have to, we have to Stayon task while you're watching
it.
I could not get into any of thespinoff shows I couldn't either
I've watched a little bit of theMayans one I just can't and I

(11:42):
heard that it is so good.
But yeah, it's not for me.
Mm hmm I was so excited with cuzyou know, I'm on after some of
the anarchy.
Oh, yeah I was so excited.
Yeah, I would like to have aprequel And have the, the dad
and grandma, they're younger.
Right.
Man, he is such a, I can't standthem.
But then again, you kind oflike, like, she does things and

(12:04):
you're like, oh, and then shedoes other things.
You're like, what the heck?
Yeah.
It's all the, all the feelings.
Yes.
So, yeah, we've been doing a lotof that and I'm house sitting.
Well, I'm dogs hitting for somepeople that I've watched dogs
for before.
So they're out of town and I'mjust going over a few times a
day loving on them and cuddlingthem up.

(12:25):
So, you know, just doing allthat.
Jay's got a varsity gametomorrow night's Monday.
By the time this drops, he'llhave had some PT.
No, I'm just kidding.
He's not going to see the court.
And we're okay with that.
Um, so I have a new bucket thisitem.
I saw on Tik TOK, of course.
and I know I've seen it before,but I just never thought about
it, but to they have the sleepat the aquarium experience where

(12:49):
you sleep in the shark tunnel.
Like we're like the sharks swimaround.
Okay.
And, but you get the after hourstour and you get okay.
And meet and greet the animalsand stuff.
Okay.
And I can do this.
And they've got like differentones.
Like they got like family ones,and then they have the adult
ones where you get alcohol.

(13:10):
So what, what aquariums offerthis?
There's a bunch of them.
The one in Charlotte doesn'thave like an adult one.
They just have like the familyone, which I think our boys are,
Are they're in between, likethey're too old for like the
kitty one.
Right.
But they're not old enough forthe Right.
But the, the one in Tennessee,is the one that I saw, the
Gatlinburg Uhhuh is the one thatI saw the TikTok on, and I was

(13:30):
like, that is so freaking cool.
That is pretty cool.
That is pretty cool.
Now I will say, I would go, Idon't know if I could sleep
under the shark thing.
Really?
Yeah.
I can do like when you, when yougo in there, I can go in it.
But the thought of being underall that water mm-hmm.
Almost freaks me out.
Oh, I feel like I don't, Iwouldn't sleep.
I would just like sit there andwatch and I might really enjoy,

(13:53):
enjoy it once I got in there.
But yeah, like watching movieswhen they're diving and like
they go in the caves, I have ahard time with that.
Did you watch, um, was itsomething feet down?
Um, like, it's like, 20, 27 27feet.
I don't know.
It's like the shark when they'rein the shark cage And the shark
cage breaks like the chain.

(14:13):
Oh, no, and they go all the waydown to the bottom of the ocean
No, see no that freaked me out.
Yeah.
Yeah the thought of of being sodeep like that And like I said
being in a cave underwater.
Yeah Or have you seen the oneswhere, they're rescuing people
that are trapped, something likethat, or, uh, um, I, all that
stuff.
And I can swim and I love thewater.

(14:34):
And I've never gone scubadiving.
No, snorkeling yes and I don'tthink I could because of just
the thought, unless I was notgoing too far.
Yeah.
Well that was our, our gym classor P.
E.
in college.
That's so cool.
And so we did it.
We got our open water dive done.
We got our like, uh.
past or whatever, like we werecertified to do it and I don't

(14:56):
think we ever did it again.
Does that expire?
I don't know.
I would not trust myself to doit.
Right, right, right.
Well, think about otherequipment changes.
Yeah, no, I wouldn't I would nottrust my, yeah, my knowledge of
anything at this point, uh, letalone life saving equipment.
Right, right, right.
but yeah, that, I mean, it wascool at the time, but again, I

(15:17):
was like in my, I was like 20.
Yeah.
Just, I don't know.
Just, I don't, I don't know whatit is.
That's just the thing that Ifind myself when we watch a
movie and like, if the car goesoff, like, I find myself holding
my breath.
Yeah.
and that's the thing, evensnorkeling, I forget that I
could breathe.
Yeah, it's just natural, like,hold your breath underwater.
Yeah.

(15:37):
And then it takes me a minute.
I'm like, oh, I can't breathe.
Like, you know, I can.
Yeah.
And so.
Yeah.
so I don't, uh, and like I said,a stupid thing.
No, it doesn't.
It makes, I get it because I'mscared of going in a cave
underwater.
Yeah.
I don't know if I feel like it'sgoing to trap me in or
something.
A regular cave is fun.
Underwater is fun.

(15:58):
Cave in water is a no go for me.
Yeah.
It's a hard pass.
Yeah.
But I do think that'd be neat tolike have a meet and greet and I
want to hold the penguins.
Can we do that?
We, so we went, when my nephewwas little, When we lived in
Tennessee, he came to visit andwe went to the aquarium there.
Mm-hmm And did the penguinexperience.
Yes.
but you didn't get to hold thepenguins or anything, you just
gotta pet them and you had touse two fingers and so you
couldn't like play with them.

(16:18):
Do they have fur or feathers?
I don't know.
I think feathery, like, it'slike a feathers.
It's a feather fur.
but you got the pet on mm-hmmYou've seen the ones where the
otters stick their little handsthrough.
I know.
I know.
I just want to, I, I, this islike, that was my calling.
I should have been like ananimal person.
I know.
Well, we should, but not to fixthem when they're sick, like

(16:41):
just to play with them.
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I love being an animal cuddler.
Right.
Well, you know, they do havethose, I think we've talked
about them before, like the, thepanda bear rockers.
I'll have to look up if penguinshave fur feathers.
I'm sorry.
Well, we just discussed this.
They do have projectile poop.
The things you learn that youdidn't even know.

(17:02):
Penguins have feathers, not fur.
You're welcome.
well, yeah, because you know,oh, okay.
I'm like going to cartoons.
I'm like, except they have likethe big feathers.
And happy feet.
But you know, they're they'rekind of like little Oh my God.
No, I'm sound weird.
Not.
I was going to say they're kindof like little birds.
Well, no crap.

(17:22):
They are birds, but you know howbaby birds have like the really
soft, like a downy feather.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Let's talk about something.
Yeah.
Anything.
Change directions.
I don't care where we go fromhere.
well, I've got some dogeupdates.
Okay.
Give me the doge update.
Okay.
Cause I love like listening towhat we have wasted money on for
God knows how long.

(17:42):
And this, he's actually made memad because why are we messing
with animals?
Right.
Cause we don't like that on thisshow.
Um, 3 million on steroid studyand hamster fighting.
Why are we fighting hamsters?
And why are we shooting him upwith steroids?
Steroids and hamsters that arefighting.
Okay.
And where do hamsters come from?

(18:03):
Because there's no, like,hamsters in the wild.
I know, but I'm stuck on, in mymind, now there is a hamster
wearing Heart raging?
But wearing the, what is itcalled?
Like the little, um, like a gi?
With the headband and like thelittle, like the karate suit?

(18:27):
That's what's in my head.
I'm thinking like Rambo, like,like the kangaroos.
Oh yeah, I know.
Stand on their hind legs.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, so.
But yeah, why?
3 million dollars on that.
2.
3 million.
This is like.
But wait, where do they comefrom?
Like there's no hamsters in thewild, are there?

(18:48):
Like where did hamsters comefrom?
I don't know.
Google.
Okay, yeah.
Okay, so moving on.
2.
3 million used to study thecocaine effects in beagles.
Oh my god.
Why are we giving beaglescocaine?
Oh my gosh.
600, 000 in parrot romance, likeparrots.
How much?

(19:09):
600 or 600, 000.
It's a lot of parrot porn.
You got an OnlyFans?
500, 000 in racial aggression inmice.

(19:31):
Okay.
Okay.
Are we fighting the white miceagainst the black mice?
Or are we seeing how the micereact to white or black people?
Racial aggression in mice.
That's all we got.
1.
1 million in training mice tobinge drink.
Why?
That's why they're racist.
Why?
But why?

(19:52):
Like, who even likes This ismaking me sad.
I have all the visuals.
Now, the hamsters and the geese,and then we have a cookout where
the mice are sitting at thepicnic tables with beer.
They're redneck.
They're redneck mice.
That's why they're racist.
And their wife, like they'restanding there.
Yes, but no pants.

(20:16):
And then we get the parrotsgetting it.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
We got Marvin Gaye in thebackground.
Wow.
All right.
2.
1 million to encourageEthiopians to wear shoes.
Like, let them make their owndecisions.
Right, they can do whatever thefreak they want.
If they've never worn shoes andthey're fine with it, just don't
try to force your shoe wearinghabits on somebody.
2.
7 million to study Russian catson treadmills.

(20:43):
875, 000 to study the effects ofcocaine on quails when they
mate.
Like they've got something goingon with these birds getting it
all they obsessed with with thebird porn 187, 000 to verify if
children love their pets.
Oh my gosh I can pretty muchguarantee you that 99.

(21:06):
9 percent of kids love theirpets, right?
Why is that a study?
So my question is I meanobviously I think all these
studies are fronts for somethingelse, obviously.
Yeah.
Okay.
So what, so really going to,right.
I know.
We don't know.
That's what they're trying tofigure out.
That's just, and that's why allthese people are trying to shut

(21:26):
it down because Yeah.
Right.
Wonder if those people, um.
With the, how to work myheadlights job, how they're
making it through.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So, those are our updates forthe week because I just keep
hearing the ridiculousness ofwhere the money has gone.

(21:47):
And it just blows my mind, butit blows my mind that it's gone
on this long.
Yeah.
Like that nobody has been like,huh.
I mean, like, why was this nevera thing to check, because people
were making money?
Well, yeah, and people that aremaking the money are greasing
the wheels and all the things.
But, sidebar,hamstestors arenative to various regions of

(22:09):
Europe and parts of Asia andRussia.
Like, in the wild?
Yeah.
Like, do they look different?
Oh, they're adorable.
They live in a variety ofhabitats, including grassland
meadows and deserts.
Look at'em.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, they are cute.
Oh, he's standing on his leg.
Mm-hmm Can you picture him likeswinging Yeah.

(22:30):
With his wife beater on.
Aw, they're really cute.
Okay.
I just look at that guy.
Oh, he look like a chipmunk.
Mm-hmm He might be in bread Hemight be a, a cross street.
Yes.
Kinda like a mocking j.
Oh, they are cute.
Oh, no, I had one as a kidthough.
We did not.
Well, I don't think we did, butwe did.

(22:52):
His name was chocolate chip, butit died.
But I was like super young, likeit wasn't my pet, it was my
sibling's pet.
Did you love your pet?
Did you need a study?
I don't remember.
I was like in, I was like threeor four.
I was in pre k, like the earlypre k.
I know you well enough to knowthat you loved your pet.
I'm sure I did.
And there was no study neededfor that.
I did have hermit crabs thoughthat freaked me the heck out
when they came out of the shell.
Yeah, oh yeah.
And I had nothing to do withthem after that.

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Have you ever seen a turtle notin its shell?
No, I Don't, don't, don't lookit up.
No.
Cause my curiosity got,obviously, I've got to know the
answers to the things.
Don't look it up.
No.
Again, can we talk aboutanything else?
Well, there is a new cult likegroup.
Oh, yay.
Called Zizians.
I think that's how you pronounceit.
Okay.
and the only reason it caught myeye was because they were in

(23:35):
Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
Nice.
and it's like a multi statething.
Okay.
What are they?
They're killing people.
Oh, not nice.
What are they?
What's the deal?
So I asked Chat GPT to summarizelike four articles that I put in
because I didn't want to reallyactually read all of them Yeah,
so I put in like four articlesand asked to summarize all of

(23:55):
them.
So, there is a manhunt right nowfor The Zizians and it's a
radical death cult linked to sixdeaths that they know of so far
But they are investigating tosee if they're linked to other
deaths.
Okay A nationwide manhunt isunderway for members of the
Zizianza pseudo intellectradical group described as a

(24:15):
death cult with ties to sixfatalities across the United
States.
The group, which includes techsavvy individuals from Berkeley,
has been linked to a series ofviolent crimes, including the
murder of a U.
S.
Border Patrol agent, thestabbing of a California
landlord, and the shooting of awealthy couple in Pennsylvania.
So do we know like what theircause is or what are they?

(24:36):
So like, why are they like, isthis a religious thing or?
Um, well, one of the articles,it doesn't happen in here.
It said that they are radicalvegan, vegans.
I'd be angry too, but they didsay most of their members are,
and this has nothing to do withpolitical stuff and like
whatever.
This is just what the articleshad said.
Um, most of them are trans orlike non binary and, I think the

(25:02):
Big outcry right now witheverything going on in the, news
and stuff, but the 1 person thatwas in this cult, the, the
couple in Pennsylvania that diedthat, it was her parents, like,
she killed her parents.
Okay, like, I mean, it was so,but then, you look up these
people and they all look likethey're bananas.
some of them worked for Googlein the past, some of them worked

(25:23):
for NASA.
Oh, they don't know how big thegroup is.
they have three, one person diedin the shootout with the, border
patrol agent.
They, they were, I guess, knownto have.
Done the murders and they wereon the lookout and, got pulled
over and the person got out ofthe car, just started shooting.
so there was a shootout.
The border patrol agent died aswell as the shooter died., 2

(25:46):
other people got taken intocustody and then I don't know if
they gave the names of the otherpeople.
so there's 3 other people thatthey are searching for, but they
believe it's a bigger cultwidespread.
Yeah, that's scary.
It is scary.
They were, they were in ChapelHill, they were renting a house
in Chapel Hill at 1 point.
Not too long ago.
Okay.

(26:06):
is that their most recent placethat we know?
Well, no, they were in, I think,Virginia or okay.
No, Vermont.
Okay.
The shooting happened.
but.
The people in Chapel Hill that Ihad seen them said that they
were out at night a lot we're inall dark black French coat type
of things never speaking toanybody just like super weird Mm
hmm.

(26:26):
oh, I hadn't heard about that ohmy goodness Yeah, it's crazy.
Well, mm hmm on a little bit ofa lighter note You what the
Eagles went in the Superbowl.
Yes.
They had their parade.
A mil, over a million peoplewent.
It's crazy.
Yes.
But did you see the, the fansgetting married at the parade?
And the woman wearing an anklemonitor?
Gotta love Eagle fans.

(26:48):
Gotta love it.
Keep it classy.
You know what?
They'll never forget that,right?
No.
Never.
Um, somebody got married at oneof the playoff games.
In the parking lot.
Really?
Uh huh.
How romantic.
Yeah.
So we also just celebratedValentine's Day and, uh, yeah,
we don't do anything aroundthose days.
We, we've not really, I thinkour first Valentine's Day when

(27:10):
we were dating, we didsomething.
I, I, I don't, I don't know thelast time.
Yeah, uh, we don't, we don't.
but did you hear that there wasa single man in China that has
booked every other seat in atheater to split up couples on
Valentine's Day?
That is a great level of petty.
Yeah.

(27:30):
I thought that was prettyawesome.
Thought it was pretty good.
Yeah.
We didn't do anything from outTuesday.
No, no, Dylan, Ruthie has COVIDor she had COVID.
So, they are doing Valentine'sDay tomorrow.
Maybe you'll get some 50 percentoff candy.
well, she likes to do like adultcoloring book stuff.
Oh yeah.
So he got her markers and acoloring book.
That's thoughtful.
Candy.
So that's nice.

(27:52):
Yeah.
He's a sweet kid.
He's all right.
Yeah.
I'll keep him.
I love him.
Me too.
It was so funny talking to himwhen we got here.
Like Why don't you just become,like, the steep voiced dude who
Again, talk about anything else,moving on.
do you want to hear a reallyfunny law that somebody brought

(28:12):
to wherever the laws go to?
I'm just a bill on Capitol Hill.
So Mississippi State SenatorBradford Blackmun introduced a
bill that states any time a manejaculates it needs to be for
the specific purpose ofreproducing not just for fun.
There's a three strike systemand they believe this was

(28:34):
brought to light because of allof the stuff going on with like
women's reproductive whateverand the role the man has in the
process.
But could you imagine if I mean,we'll never see the light of day
because it's like just full ofmen in the lawmaking places.
So who presented this again?

(28:55):
It was, Mississippi StateSenator Bradford Blackmon.
I'm surprised that Brad, Brad,what a name.
Bradford Blackman.
I'm surprised that Bradford andit wanted this, this kind of a
thing.
I'm pretty sure it's justbecause of all the reproductive
rights stuff going on and heknew it would never get past
ever.
But yeah, so like, no, likesolo.

(29:19):
Playtime.
No, just enjoying your partnerwhen you're not trying to make a
baby.
Yeah, make a baby.
No, no non mating.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
Jake Gyllenhaal, and RyanReynolds apparently, so Ryan
Reynolds is like all over, yeah,and now it's come out that he's

(29:40):
like, Kind of a jerk.
Yeah.
Which is so sad for me.
I hate it.
Me too hate.
But I guess they were friends atone point, like besties.
I see that.
and I don't know what happened.
I was trying to find out whathappened, but like there's
nothing really out there aboutthe beef.
Yeah.
So there was a red carpetinterview with Jake and they
asked him.
What would it take to be BFFswith him again?
And he was like, yeah, that shiphas sailed.

(30:01):
Nope.
And they asked him if he had anywords for Ryan.
And like, when I tell you hiswhole tone and face, like, like
was like, he said, I havenothing to say to him.
And his whole demeanor change.
I wonder what happened.
And I was like, ooh, yeah.
So I saw that right before yougot here and I was kind of
searching.

(30:21):
But yeah, but like what you werelike, I have nothing.
To say to him, and I was like,Ooh, snap.
And now all this stuff is outabout him being a complete
bonehead.
Yeah.
I don't know much about Jakethough.
I don't either, but,, he was ina lot of movies like Yeah.
Previously like Yeah.
When we were a little bityounger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(30:41):
And I always thought he was agreat actor, but Yeah.
Ooh.
Yeah.
So I wanna know the beef.
100 percent that sounds likevery, very personal.
Yeah.
alright, you ready for am I thea hole?
I am ready.
Alright, so we got, um, fromPink Basket.
Am I the a hole for hiding frommy friend?
when I was in town.

(31:01):
Okay, my friend Tilly and I,both 35, 34 female, are very
close.
We live far away so we can'tmeet much, but visit each
other's towns a few times a yearand meet then.
There's things to do in both ourtowns and both have.
Mutual and non mutual friendsfamily in each other's towns.
We talk every day and havereally close bonds sharing happy

(31:22):
difficult moments.
I'm closer to her than anyone.
All these years of Tilly'scoming into my town, she makes a
huge fuss out of telling me,talks to me on her journey down.
Make sure I have Time for herand we can even meet.
She'll update on what she'sdoing like visiting a restaurant
I recommend or a mutual friend.
She'll tell me when she'sleaving and that she's home
safe.

(31:43):
In the last two years Tillystarted coming to my town
without telling me only whenshe's already here for some
reason she'll mention it and ifI try to engage with her she'll
act distant.
She'll tell me why she's comeand it's the truth as mutual
friends are with her.
Sometimes she's with her mom,whom I'm close to as well, so
she's not doing anything.
She's hiding.
The first few times I gave anopen ended invitation, as usual,

(32:05):
and she didn't engage, she alsoleft without telling me, or that
she made it home.
I didn't want to seem like I'mbadgering her, so I left it.
It made me feel really strange,and we didn't resume normal
messaging for a few days.
Some days she's only mentionedit as she had to ask me for
someone's address, etc.
And I wondered how many timesshe's done all of this without
me knowing at all.

(32:26):
I know people be thinking shewants to cool the friendship,
and I did too.
So in the last year, I've triedto gently talk to her after a
few months and asked outright ifthere's anything wrong.
But But she's insistent and saideverything's fine between us and
she's avoided talking to memore.
In between all this, she'stalking to me normally, not
calling to friendship in anyother way.
And most importantly, if I go toher town, she comes running to

(32:47):
surprise me or insist I come tohers.
Often I'm with other people shedoesn't know well, but I always
make her feel like I appreciatethe effort and include her.
So she's kept the same energy inevery other way but seemingly
holding me at arm's length whenshe comes to my town then we act
like it never happened.
After two years I feel confusedand unsure on where we stand.

(33:08):
Then last week a group offriends and I were going to
Tillie's town.
Tillie doesn't know them welland thinking about everything I
felt weird about telling her anddecided not to say anything.
Well, Tilly's friend saw me fromafar and mentioned it assuming
she'd already know because ofhow close we are.
I got a message from Tillysaying she knows I'm here trying
to laugh it off and that Ididn't tell her, and then saying

(33:29):
it was embarrassing with herfriend that she didn't know.
I was taken aback and said Ithought she preferred it like
this as that's what she's beendoing.
She got annoyed but barely saidanything other than, it's not
the same thing and now hasn'tbeen communicating with me which
feels horrible, am I the a hole?
That was a bunch of a mess.
Yeah.
it sounds like to me that thefriend, when she comes to the

(33:52):
writer's town.
wants to go and like do all thefun things and see other people
and not have like a tag along.
Yeah.
But it should definitely workboth ways.
Absolutely.
I don't think he's an a hole atall.
No, I don't think so either.
He's tried to, to approach italready.
Yeah.
and it was like, no, no,nothing's wrong.
Nothing's wrong.
And I don't see anything wrongwith you going to somebody's

(34:14):
town and not want to spend everymoment with that person,
especially when there's otherfamily and friends there or
sometimes you just want to hangout with somebody else or be by
yourself or Do things thatthey're not interested in and
that's fine But you're a 35 yearold female person you first of
all, you don't answer anybody inthis situation, right?
You don't owe anybody reallyanything other than the courtesy

(34:36):
of saying hey i'm coming in Youwant to hang out or i'm coming
in i'll see them i'll catch younext time I don't think
anybody's the a-hole here.
I think, well, I do because ifyou're trying to address the
situation, it should be addresslike, Hey, no, I just wanted to
chill with my mom, or I wantedto, whatever.
Right.
Which I'm sure her friendwould've been fine with, but
don't get mad when it happensthe other way when that happens

(34:56):
to you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I don't think that thewriter is the a-hole.
I think that the friend kind ofis.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess that's what I was tryingto wrap my head around.
I don't think the writer iseither, they're trying to keep
it smooth.
They're trying to do things.
Yeah, but yeah, the way thatthe, the Tilly person is that
and now she's not really talkingto her.

(35:18):
Right you should have a secretboyfriend or something.
Maybe, maybe, maybe that was,yeah, I don't.
That was weird.
Yeah.
Do you want to talk about ourbook?
Yeah.
Okay.
So we read A Friend Indeed.
Yes.
By Erica Ray.
Yes.
So, chapter GPT.
Yep.
In A Friend Indeed by Elka Ray,two childhood friends, Dana and

(35:38):
Joe, reunite after years apart,only for Dana to ask Joe to help
cover up a crime.
Yeah.
As Dana.
And Jo becomes entangled indangerous secrets.
She begins to question Dana'smotives and the truth about what
really happened.
Tensions rise as Jo uncoverslies and betrayal, putting her

(35:59):
own life at risk.
The story explores themes oftrust, loyalty, and the lengths
people will go to protectthemselves.
It's a gripping tale of suspenseand the dark side of friendship.
What'd you think?
I didn't guess the ending.
No, at all.
No.
It moved a little bit slow inthe middle.
Yep.
it started off great, got kindof slow.
And then like, it was like, bam.
And it was a crazy emotionalride at the end.

(36:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
so I think it was good.
And I definitely loved thatthere was like three or four
twists in it.
Yes.
at the end.
Yes.
I definitely did not guess anyof them.
No.
Yeah.
But I kind of hated high schoolDana.
I hated her.
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of hereither.
I don't like her as an adulteither, but like I really hated
her as like a high school.

(36:40):
Yeah.
Dana.
Did you like Jo?
I felt bad for Joe in highschool.
Yeah.
like when they were like doingthe flashbacks.
Yeah.
But when they had said that, um,obviously spoiled, Oh, if you're
not a bookie, it's your time toleave.
Sorry.
Don't let the door hit you.
Peace out.
And obviously spoilers if you'restill sticking around.

(37:01):
when they talked about, at theparty where she was getting
assaulted and then Dana made itout like it was her fault.
Yeah that wasn't okay.
Right.
And then when they got stuck onthe side of the road, when they
were both drinking and she madeJoe drive and Joe didn't even
know how to drive.
Yeah.
And they went off the road andthe older college guy stops and

(37:21):
Dana makes Joe perform things.
For help.
Yeah, it wasn't okay.
It wasn't, very lopsidedfriendship, very much so.
And I'm surprised that they werestill friends up until this
point with everything that shekept doing to Joe.
But then, you know, Joe madesome bad choices and Dana was,

(37:45):
and her husband helped Joe outof the situation, with the job.
I did like, well, okay, let mego back.
I thought that their daughterswere going to be siblings.
So did I.
I kept waiting for something to,when they were talking about DNA
and all that, I kept thinkingfor something to pop out there.

(38:06):
I was curious about thebrothers.
Just because they did talk somuch about them.
They were in the story so much.
I was like, something's going onthere going to happen there.
Did not expect the ending, whichis what they But it was, I'm so
glad that, that Joe Got theright revenge scam.

(38:27):
Yeah.
Yes.
Scammed her.
Yes, she did she But wait, therewas a cliffhanger at the end,
wasn't there?
Yeah, the daughter.
But the daughter knew.
The daughter saw them getting onthe boat to dump.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What do you hope happens likeafter that?
What do you hope?
Do you hope the daughter justforgets and inches goes and,
well, she's so young.

(38:48):
She's five.
Yeah.
So it's easy to kind of likesway her to, yeah.
Convince her she saw somethingelse or whatever.
Yeah.
After time goes by, right.
so I don't think anything wouldreally happen with that.
I was waiting for Dana to soundlike a private, private
detective or something to findJoe.
But since the neighbor gotarrested and play guilty, like,

(39:14):
Yeah, the neighbor's daughter,the teenager with the dude, with
the adult, yeah.
With the husband, yeah.
And also the son.
And then it all like clickedbecause Yeah.
How smug she was.
Yeah.
When Dana found her in her son'sroom.
Yes.
Yeah.
And the way she, like the mm-hmmThe attitude and the, yeah.
I, I was not a fan of that girl,Gina.

(39:34):
Gemma.
Gemma, which I like her namethough.
Me too.
But, um, but yeah, I was not afan of her.
But I wondered, so, I mean,obviously her mom, Angela, knew
what had happened, that's whyshe pled guilty, I'm assuming.
Well, they basically said thatthey were going to bring Gemma
in as an accomplice if shecannot plead guilty.

(39:55):
Yeah.
So she took the set to save herdaughter.
The daughter knew, or the momknew, that the daughter was
sleeping with, yeah, the adult.
There was just a whole bunch of,a whole, everything was
intertwined.
There was so many pieces to thesituation.
The crime.
The crime.

(40:15):
The crime.
But it was, It was easy tofollow for me.
It was me, too.
It wasn't slow, but it was veryeasily, laid out.
Yeah, yeah, without giving toomuch away.
Right.
So, I agree with you.
They gave you a lot of detail,not too much, but you get so

(40:36):
much information.
And then all of a sudden it justcomes together.
Did you think that, Joe was theone though that was blackmailing
her?
No, I didn't.
I started, I honestly started toget a little curious.
Like what the only people thatwould have been in her room are
in the daughter's room were likeNo, I, I thought,, it was the
high school for Angela orwhatever her name was, Jim as

(40:59):
mom.
I thought it was her that wasblackmailing.
Yeah.
What about the red herring ofthe, Housekeeper.
Like I kept thinking she wasgonna have some type.
I thought she was the murdererat one point.
Like I thought she did it.
'cause she was also there for solong.
Right.
Like, I'm assuming the children,she had everything.
Right.
Yeah.
I felt something was gonna comeout with her.

(41:21):
Mm-hmm But I, I mean.
She was just she was just there.
It was a good book.
Yeah, I thought it was good Iwouldn't give it eight.
I'm gonna go seven.
Yeah, just cause of that lag.
Mm hmm.
Yeah, it was it was good It wasa good length.
It wasn't too long or too shorteither Sometimes they're so long
and you're like, come on get tothe point.
Yeah, But I liked it.

(41:42):
I'd read that author again.
Same.
So I think next week is The GoodGirl.
The Good Girl by Mary Kabuka?
Mm hmm.
Something?
Mm hmm.
And I've got the blurb.
Okay.
I've been, I've been followingher for the past few days.
I know where she buys hergroceries, where she works.

(42:02):
I don't know the color of hereyes or what they will look like
when she's scared, but I will.
One night, Mia Dennett enters abar to meet her on again, off
again boyfriend, but when hedoesn't show, she unwisely
leaves with a stranger.
Yeah, sorry.
I thought I could help.
But okay, but when he doesn'tshow, she unwisely leaves with a
stranger.
At first, Colin Thatcher seemslike a safe one night stand, but

(42:24):
following Colin home will turnout to be the worst mistake of
Mia's life.
When Colin decides to hide Miain a secluded cabin in rural
Minnesota, instead of deliveringher to his employers, Mia's
Mother Eve and detective GabeHoffman will stop at nothing to
find them, but no one could havepredicted the emotional
entanglements that eventuallycaused the family's world to

(42:44):
shatter.
So I downloaded it.
I just started listening to it.
I feel like I might've read thisbefore.
but I like this author.
I'm not going to say her name.
I do too.
but the first I don't know, halfhour.
I was like, oh gosh, I don'tknow if I'm going to be able to
do this.
Does it pick up?
I don't know I just started it.

(43:05):
Well, apparently I have reachedmy limit in Hoopla already.
That's dangerous.
It's only the 16th.
What am I going to do with therest of my, I went in like maybe
on the 5th or 6th and downloadedall the books for the so that I
knew that I didn't cause they'regood for 21 days.
Yeah.
Smart, smart, smart.
I might have to read this onewith my eyeballs.

(43:27):
Is it on Libby?
No.
I'll figure it out.
Do you have Kindle Unlimited?
Yes.
See if it's on there and you canhave Alexa read it.
Read it to me like this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll figure it out.
I'm not worried about it.
But this was fun today.
It was.
Double up.
Yep.
Surprise for everybody.

(43:48):
We've got another surprise guestyou'll hear soon.
Yes.
It'll be a whole, it's ownseparate episode, but we are
excited about it.
Yep.
And, I think we are planning ondoing some on location recording
too.
Yes, I cannot wait.
So we're going to go out in thecommunity and check out some
different like bookstores anddifferent businesses and, and
get some interviews that waytoo.

(44:08):
Love it.
And so that'll be exciting.
Yes.
Bookstore.
Yes.
I listen, I listen to so manyaudio books, but I love buying
books.
Oh, I do too.
And when we were talking to ourspecial guests and she was
talking about the Bath and BodyWorks having the smells, I was
like, I wonder if Bell smellslike a bookstore.
Yeah.
Probably not.
It smells like roses.
Yeah.
That'd be very musty.
Yeah.

(44:28):
Don't know why I'm obsessed withbuying books, but I listened to
all my books.
Yeah.
I just, I like, I just, I likebooks.
I like books.
I don't know.
It's weird.
It's a weird, I get, I feel youa hundred percent.
Yeah.
But this was fun.
So if you guys want us tocontinue, we need you to leave
us some reviews.
Please.
Thank you.
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