🗓️ Release Date: [3/20/25]
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Stefanie and Meredith are back with another chaotic, hilarious, and jaw-dropping episode of This Is My Circus! This week, they cover everything from viral TikTok dance lessons to true crime bombshells—plus a Disney lawsuit shocker that will make you rethink clicking “I agree” on Terms & Conditions! 🤯
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🕺 Viral Dance Coach Taking Over TikTok – Have you seen Ace Green? The internet is obsessed with his virtual dance classes, especially his hilarious sessions with a group of guys in Pakistan. 🏆💃
🚨 True Crime Updates: New Suspect in the Maura Murray Case? – Fingerprints found in her car match a convicted dog-killing con artist with a suspicious past. Could this be the break investigators have been waiting for? 👀🕵️
🤯 OJ Simpson Case Twist? – Nicole Brown Simpson’s handyman was… a SERIAL KILLER?! How did this detail fly under the radar for years? 🩸
🏰 Disney’s Shady Legal Loophole – A doctor dies from an allergy at a Disney restaurant, but thanks to a Disney+ free trial agreement, his family couldn’t sue?! 🤯 Find out how Terms & Conditions almost changed everything.
🎢 Universal’s EPIC New Theme Park – Dragons flying overhead? Fire-breathing rides? A Harry Potter Ministry of Magic expansion?! We break down the Epic Universe coming in 2025! 🔥🐉
💰 Am I The A-Hole? Inheritance Wars Get Even Pettier! – Jerry is BACK, and he just sent a $26K invoice to his best friend’s sister after she tried to steal the family inheritance. The petty levels are chef’s kiss! 👏😂
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(00:00):
Welcome to, this is my circus,the podcast where we embrace the
chaos and keep it real aboutparenting, pop culture, true
crime, and the books we can'tput down because let's be
honest, life is one big circusand we're just trying to survive
with caffeine, sarcasm, and alittle true crime obsession.
So if you love unfilteredconversation, questionable
parenting hacks, and deep divesinto the things that keep us up
(00:21):
at night, you're in the rightplace.
Buckle up, grab your popcorn,and let's get into the chaos.
I'm Stephanie.
I'm Meredith.
And welcome to you.
This is my circus.
Hi.
Hi.
I keep looking at this mic'causeI feel we usually have it
higher, don't we?
We do.
I like it like this though,'cause I feel like I can make
eye contact.
Gaze into my eyes.
Gaze into your eyes.
How you been?
I've been okay.
(00:41):
It is so absolutely gorgeousoutside.
I know.
I could just roll around in theyard.
Yes.
Well, Dylan is not feeling well.
Oh, allergy crappy.
No, he's said last night, hisstomach, he goes like, really,
really bad.
And then he, went into work for40 minutes.
Mm-hmm.
And like in that 40 minutes Ihad dropped him off.
Stomach stuff?
Yeah.
And a ginger ale and theGatorade.
(01:02):
Mm-hmm.
And he had, I texted him like,do you need anything from Food
Lion?
Do you want me to pick you upanything?
Right.
He's like, no, I'm leaving herein a few minutes.
So he had left, he's beenupstairs in bed since.
Aww.
That's tough.
That's, I hate that.
So I'm like, just text me if youneed something.
Right, right.
Just let me know.
Let me know.
Ring the little bell.
Mm-hmm.
Or text.
I know everybody's allergies areacting out too.
Is that time of year.
(01:22):
And I love being outside rightnow, but mm-hmm.
Well, at least everything isn'tcovered in yellow yet.
I know.
I'm sure that's coming.
It is.
I'm sure that's coming.
Mm-hmm.
Um, we've had our windows opensome at home and it feels so
good, but I'm like, shut'em up.
It's bedtime.
Shut'em up.
I know we're all probably allgonna be stuffy and stuff, but
Well, it was like 34 thismorning when I got Yes.
(01:45):
So yes.
I know.
I heard that he cut on it.
I was like, what happened?
Yeah.
And tomorrow I think it'ssupposed to be like 75.
Mm-hmm.
So, you know, whatever.
well I do sleep at the windowcracked because the bedroom,
it's so hot.
Yeah.
so, and he then is I.
Moving around all night long.
Mm-hmm.
If he's hot.
So I keep the window, heprobably produces a lot of heat
(02:06):
too.
This big furry guy.
Yeah.
Well we took a nap togetheryesterday and wait till I said
you weren't a nap or, I had, Ithink it's the allergies.
Yeah.
but I did lay down on the floorwith him and I had my pillow he
leaned off of his bed uhhuh andput his head on the pillow over
next to my head.
Oh my God.
He is just the sweetest dog.
And we laid there for probablylike an hour.
(02:28):
Bless that puppy.
Yes.
So he's my good boy.
Yeah.
He's the goodest boy.
do you always sleep with yourwindow?
Correct.
So last night, did you mm-hmm.
Being 35, unless I know, likethe night before they was
supposed to storm.
Yeah.
I did not.
Yeah.
But when it's not gonna storm, Inormally do have a little bit of
air flow.
Yeah.
And I have a fan on.
Yeah.
I don't blame you.
(02:48):
We have two fans in our bedroom.
Mm-hmm.
So we have our ceiling fan.
Then I have one on my side ofthe bed that if a hot flash
kicks in, I just reach over andclick it.
So yeah, I get it.
I'm apparently, we've talkedabout this, I'm a high
maintenance sleeper.
Yeah.
Well, I know that happens.
I'm not upset about it.
Mm-hmm.
Not worried about it.
It was good to see you at theSt.
Patrick's Day thingy.
Yeah.
(03:08):
I, I wish we could have hungout.
I just had, you know, you see somany people, so, did y'all have
fun?
Yeah.
I mean, it was, I mean, I knowit's so different Yes.
Going as an adult without kids.
Yes.
And I, it was way more fun withthe kids, even though in that
moment I was like, ah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It went from wanting to ride allthe rides, to play all the
(03:30):
games, to walk around bythemselves to all the money, to
buy all the food, and nownothing.
Mm-hmm.
And it's, yeah, it's justanother stage.
I told Brian, I said, I mean, Ilike going and walking around,
but it's just a totallydifferent perspective.
I.
Um mm-hmm.
When there's no littles to beaton the lookout for, and Yeah.
I, yeah.
Oh, it's kinda sad.
(03:51):
Yeah.
I, yeah.
Yeah.
It was something to do and itwas a pretty day Yeah.
For us.
So that's why Yeah.
We got out.
Yeah.
We, we got out, we went.
It was good to see your mom.
Yeah.
Yo mom, El Madre.
She's so cute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
anything else exciting going on?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
No, I know you've been workinghard on our website.
I have.
I appreciate all of that.
(04:12):
And you guys will too.
Yeah.
We have one more connection todo, for the connecting the audio
stuff, and I think we'll beready.
Nice.
So that's coming very, very,very, very soon.
As soon as we we're waiting forfeedback from the company on
that, right?
Mm-hmm.
How to link all that up.
Yeah.
Cool, cool, cool.
I've gone through, they addedlike a new option, but that
(04:32):
option still didn't work forwhat we needed, and so they're
trying to find a workaround.
Okay.
You are just, you are thepresident, you are the
secretary, you are the, I don'tknow, you're everything other
than I feel like the courtjester here.
I come juggling things.
I feel like they're both alittle clowny.
(04:53):
Yes, yes.
But you, you honestly do more ofthe, other work.
I told you today, I was gonna bea better person to help with
stuff, so it's all good.
Okay.
so have you seen on the TikTok,this dude named Ace that teaches
people to dance?
Mm, maybe.
I don't know.
So a lot of dancer people, oh mygosh.
(05:14):
He cracks me up.
So his TikTok name is Real AceGreen, and what he does is he
teaches people how to dospecific dances to songs over
Zoom.
Okay.
Oh.
Yeah.
So, oh God, what has made himthe most popular is he has this
(05:34):
group of dudes in Pakistan thathe's teaching like the Kendrick
Lamar dances and stuff.
It is hilarious.
Speaking of dances.
Yeah.
Do you remember like two weeksago I sent you the chicken
banana?
Yeah.
And I said we should do it.
And you were like, and now it'sall over.
(05:54):
Poor coal on my side.
Chicken.
Oh no.
It was the other way.
Yeah.
Chicken banana.
Um.
But yeah, so he, it's, so hisvideos are him and then five
other dudes like in their littleblocks on the, on the TikTok
thing, and he's telling themwhat to do.
(06:15):
And, you know, there's a, alittle bit of a language barrier
there.
Everybody speaks English, butit's kind of iffy.
And then there's the delay.
And um, like the other day I waswatching one and there was a
chicken that started tocrawling.
He was like, whose chicken isthat?
Like, it is so funny.
It is so funny to watch.
And then he'll have other groupsof people, um.
Another day was like Grand Asiangrandmothers or something.
(06:36):
Like, it's hilarious.
And they're just in there vibingand having a good time.
So he's the real ace Green.
If you wanna check out somebodyfunny, why not?
Right.
I could use a lot oflightheartedness.
Me too.
There's too much crap in theworld.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
did you see, the updates onGypsy Rose?
No, I haven't.
we haven't talked about her in along time.
(06:57):
No.
But she has had her baby,obviously.
Okay.
but she does not have custody ofher child.
What?
Yes, she does not have custody.
Ken has custody.
And this is all alleged, do notsue us.
Um, but she, but if you'relistening Gypsy Rose and you'd
like to be on, let us know.
Mm-hmm.
You don't even wanna like, no, Idon't like her.
No, I don't like her either, butI would tell her what a horrible
(07:19):
human Well, that's fine, but wecould get her on, I tell her.
But listen, karma is gettingher, hold on one second.
Okay.
Sorry.
Let me calm down.
Gypsy Rose is not have custodyof her baby.
Ken has custody.
Um, gyp, gypsy gets twovisitations a week for two hours
each time.
and that corresponds with herparole.
Okay.
The baby supposedly looks justlike her mama.
(07:39):
Bless Karma.
Yeah, she's gotta look at thatbaby.
Yes.
And see her mama.
Oh, not her mama as in Gypsy,but her grandma.
Okay, I got you.
Yeah.
She looks Deedee just likeDeedee.
Ha ha.
after a week, in the hospitalafter she had the baby, the
parole had called CPS and gotCPS involved because they did
not feel she was safe.
Yes.
(08:01):
Cause of the crime she committedand obviously the baby, safety
was a concern.
I guess, randomly she lives, Ibelieve with her dad and
stepmom.
Mm-hmm and so, when they did asearch of the house randomly, I
guess they found a box of wineand a bottle of prescription
pills hidden in a closet.
But they don't necessarily thinkit's gypsies.
They think it might be thestepmom.
(08:23):
Christie, what?
Yeah.
And then it was reported.
It's just messy.
I know it's reported that Gypsyis mad at the baby because the
baby took Ken away from her,like grow up.
Oh my gosh.
I can't stand her.
Me either.
I don't want her on the show.
(08:43):
Ken can come on the show'causehe'll have all the real tea.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Right, right.
But no gypsy can go.
Crawl under a rock.
Sounds like she might be headingthat way.
Did you see the updates?
I think you tagged me in it onMara Murray.
Mm-hmm.
And the, the, the dude, I forgetwhat was his name.
Yeah.
(09:04):
I got, the summary.
You got the summary up?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
This was crazy.
So Ma Murray is one of those, Ithink, didn't we just do the hot
takeover?
We, we wasn't Yeah, it was the,the rapid fire.
Rapid fire thing.
Yeah.
Ma Marie Case fascinates me witheverything, with her taking the
money out, buying so muchalcohol, no footprints, all the
things.
Yeah.
So there was a some new findingsand it was just weird timing.
(09:26):
Yes.
'cause we had just posted thatrapid fire, true crime Yes.
of her case.
And I was scrolling on Facebookand saw that article mm-hmm.
That I put into our group.
but it says here that a sourceclose to the investigation
revealed that fingerprints fromMaura Murray's car have been
matched to a former West Pointcadet, Stephan Baldwin, who
confirmed the match.
(09:48):
Here's what we know, background.
And he did change his name aftershe went.
Mm-hmm.
She disappeared.
Mm-hmm.
Like, mm-hmm.
Creepy.
Right.
So background and connection.
Stephan Baldwin.
Born Stephan Finkelstein,Einhorn and Finkelstein.
Wait, is that in, is that doubledo dle.
Duffels, yeah.
Ventura.
(10:09):
The platypus, isn't it?
Oh, I don't know.
I was thinking, oh, I'm thinkingEinhorn and Finkle of Ace
Ventura.
Wow.
I was thinking of the cartoon onDisney Channel.
Both of us squirrels all overthe place.
Okay.
Change his name.
Yes, he changed his name.
he attended West Point alongsideMara Murray.
He claims they were in arelationship and that he even
represented her before thejudicial review board.
(10:30):
He left the academy shortlyafter Maura withdrew from school
and changed his name after her2004 disappearance.
Criminal history Baldwin isknown in the dog rescue
community, but later becameinfamous for killing at least 18
dogs.
Oh, and up to a hundred cats inOhio.
He was accused of needneedlessly, euthanizing animals
to free up space for morerescues and funneling nonprofit
(10:52):
funds for personal use.
After fleeing to Californiawhere he allegedly killed more
dogs, he was arrested in August,2020 and charged with 42
felonies.
Ohio Police submitted hisfingerprints to the national
database and a match was foundon evidence, A CD or CD case
from Morris's Carr, a NewHampshire Detective even labeled
(11:13):
him his number one suspectbefore leaving the unit.
Amid controversy the FBIquestioned Baldwin in Spring
2024.
He denied any involvement andmentioned suspicions of another
cadet stalking Maura, but thatjust sounds like he's just
trying to slide the guilt.
Mm-hmm.
Last Thursday, Baldwin wassentenced to 15 years in prison
for his crimes in Ohio.
Meanwhile, his abusive behaviorhas been highlighted by former
(11:35):
girlfriends, two of whomtragically died, adding more
mystery.
Baldwin's estranged Mother,Barbara Baldwin is currently
missing and may have changed hername.
Baldwin now claims he has neverbeen to UMass or New Hampshire.
Raising more questions.
If you have any informationlinking him to those areas,
(11:56):
please reach out to.
Somebody more important than us.
Yes.
The authorities.
Yes.
Is that not insane?
Bananas and like, ew, Uhhuh, hehurts animals.
Right?
Red flags all over the place forthat.
Red flags.
He hurts animals, he funnels themoney.
Like he would tell people thatthey would, he would hold their
(12:19):
animal for a thousand dollars orwhatever, and then still
euthanize the animal and pocketthe money and tell them they
lost the animal and stuff.
Like, just, just a shady, shadyjerk hole.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So there's too many missingpeople.
Too many mm-hmm.
Things that around him thatjust.
(12:39):
It's not good.
Right.
But at least he's gonna be injail.
Mm-hmm while they figure thisout.
Yeah.
And try to connect more dotswith him.
Mm-hmm.
So the only place I rememberthem saying that there were the
fingerprints was the cd mm-hmm.
Or the CD case.
Mm-hmm.
That's the only place they said.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean,'cause I understandtrading CDs back in the day.
Yeah.
You know, fingerprints onthings, but Oh God.
(13:01):
Could you imagine?
Oh no, there's, let's not evengo down that path.
And I think, like my hair, I gotshed talk.
Yes.
I'm like, what if like, my hairis left somewhere?
Yes.
I think that too.
So, okay, hear me out.
You're sitting at a stoplightand you got your hair in a
ponytail, whatever, and you golike this.
Mm-hmm.
And like just now I got onehair, I throw it out the window
(13:22):
and I'm always thinking, what ifsomebody comes and picks that up
and plants it out of crime?
And I get framed.
How about like, and I think wemight have touched on this
briefly once, but wigs, I don'tknow.
I don't know how that workseither.
Or does it have to have like theroot with it?
Oh, probably the root.
Can they get your DNA from hair,like the end of your hair?
No, I, they can get drug stuff,but, but I don't think they can
(13:48):
get DNA.
I think the DNA has to be theroot.
Okay.
I think drug stuff can be okaybecause like, I mean, you're,
you're cutting your hair forthe, the wig so that then
necessarily Yeah.
It's not either scalping you,hopefully not, hopefully not.
I don't think it works that way.
but yeah, all the, the thingswith DNAI used to think about
that when people would likethrow a cigarette out.
That's got your DNA on it.
(14:08):
That's, you should protect thatsir.
And ma'am, you shouldn'tliterally Well, and you
shouldn't smoke anyway.
Yeah.
But, all of things, all ofthose, just everything related
to that is bad.
was it the book?
No.
I don't know.
Maybe it was a book I just read,or I don't know, somewhere.
But the cops followed the personaround all day trying to get
(14:28):
DNA, mm-hmm.
From whatever.
and finally the guy went tolunch and he waited till the guy
left the table, hadn't beencleared yet, and he went in and
asked the restaurant for the cupand bagged his DNA that way.
And I'm like, Ooh, yeah, Iwouldn't want that job.
I mean, I don't want to be in acrime that they need my DNA.
No, I don't.
Sure.
(14:49):
But I mean, like, should youclear the table yourself?
Like wipe everything down beforeyou can I have, disposable
everything?
Yeah.
Just take it with me.
Right.
Disposable everything.
I get it.
I wonder if the restaurant couldhave said no.
I don't know.
I don't know how that workseither.
Lawyers chime in.
Tracy.
That's, yeah.
That's crazy.
(15:10):
Uh, speaking of DNA, I neverknew this and I just saw a clip
of it somewhere, and I'm notsure which platform it was, but,
OJ Simpson's case.
Mm-hmm.
Like Nicole Brown.
Mm-hmm.
Simpson Case.
Did you know that her handymanwas a serial killer?
No, I didn't either.
I'm like, how did I not knowthis?
(15:30):
But I was like, really youngwhen this all occurred, so I
wasn't young, but I, I followedand things were way different
back then You got what the newssaid.
Right.
You didn't have any othersources to research.
but no, I mean, the most Ireally remember are the cases,
like the glove.
If the glove don't foot, youmust have quit.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Yeah.
I'm not too, too familiar.
I never like deep dope into it.
(15:51):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but I didn't know thiseither, and so as I was
scrolling, I was like, no way.
So the Handyman's name was GlenEdward Rogers, and he was the
cross country killer, or alsoknown as a Casanova killer.
Oh my gosh.
And he unalived 70 people.
There's a couple of different, Iguess, theories is that either
he helped oj mm-hmm.
(16:13):
With this, or OJ found out thathe was a serial killer and just
assumed that it would get pinnedon him.
Right.
I don't remember them mentioningthat in the trial or any of the
documentaries or podcasts oranything I've listened to.
Mm-hmm.
Isn't that bananas?
Yeah.
Like, ew.
Very, that's so creepy.
(16:34):
Do you think you've met somebodywho's a killer?
Well, they say, you will pass aserial killer like six times in
your life.
And you don't hear about serialkillers like they, you did like
back in like the seventies orwhatever.
It's probably so that it doesn'tcreate hysteria or people's just
shooting.
Mm-hmm.
But there's supposed to be a tonof active serial killers mm-hmm.
(16:56):
At all times.
And we just don't know about it.
Yeah.
And there's something was justsaid a week ago or so, they
thought there was an activeserial killer in Florida.
In Florida, yeah.
going up 95.
Yeah.
I can't, the last ones Iremember hearing about are the
ones who were, snipers.
Mm-hmm.
The DC mm-hmm.
And then there was another onerecently too.
(17:19):
But as far as just like the TedBundys or the Green River
killers or, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You just don't, or are we justthat numb to it?
I mean, I don't hear nothing onYeah.
The news or it's not, you know,not that I watch the news.
No.
Maybe that's why we don't hearanything.
That's crazy.
That's creepy.
Can you, I wonder which sixpeople have passed?
(17:40):
Three.
It's, I still got three.
I got a long life left to live.
I, I don't know, mm-hmm.
I know.
Mm-hmm.
Well, not even just serialkillers, but just like killers.
Nevermind.
Take all this out.
Um, I don't wanna be, become atarget for anything.
Yeah, me too.
Anyway, moving on.
We really need to start lookingat terms and services of things
(18:01):
that we sign up for.
Yeah.
So a doctor died at Disney Worldor Disneyland, whichever Disney
place.
Mm-hmm.
Um, at a restaurant because of asevere allergy.
And they had discussed with thewaiters multiple times mm-hmm.
Before they ordered.
Mm-hmm.
We, to assure them it wasallergy free.
Mm-hmm.
It was not.
And the doctor died.
(18:22):
So the husband wanted to sueDisney mm-hmm.
For 50,000, which I thought wasreally low.
Mm-hmm.
And Disney said, no, you're notallowed to sue.
Because the one month free trialof Disney Plus in 2019, when you
signed up for that, stated thatany disputes go to Arbitrary.
Arbitrary Sure.
(18:42):
And that you can't bring it tocourt.
So why a, TV streaming freesubscription.
It's all, all Disney covered.
So wherever it was publiclymm-hmm.
Put out, there was a bunch ofoutrage and people were like,
protesting Disney and theydropped that where they can now
go to court for this proceeding.
(19:04):
But it's only, I don't wanna sayonly 50,000, but it's only
50,000.
I how Brian would sue formillions of something.
Same.
I mean, that, that was my, like,I was like, only 50,000.
Like that's really low.
Yeah.
Yeah.
that's a lot of pressure on thewaiter or the server though.
Like, do you wanna beresponsible for that?
And they preserved the food.
Oh, maybe it was fine and it gotswitcheroo by somebody, I don't
(19:26):
know, but why not just pay the50,000 and make it go away?
Mm-hmm.
Like the amount of money thatDisney makes every year.
Yeah.
50,000 is like five sense to us.
Yeah.
Like just pay it and go.
Right.
Why would you make, mm.
They're proving a point, I guessnot sure what point that is, but
we all need to look at whatwe're signing up.
Yes.
(19:47):
I mean, you're right, you'resigning up to watch it to stream
on tv.
Who would've thought that, thatwould never write terms and
services of anything?
Nothing.
Anything ever.
Only when I write the documentsfor work, and that's just like
speed reading.
I've never ever read terms andservices.
I, oh my gosh, that is crazythat that's looped in.
(20:07):
But I guess it's all covered byDisney.
I know.
It just blows my mind.
A streaming service, Uhhuh cancover your trip to mm-hmm.
to the park.
And I would assume that when youbuy tickets, there's probably
something Oh yeah.
That's what I thought it wasgonna go to.
Right, right, right.
Was that you bought with Jacobthat one little checkbox that
you do agree and continue.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
But, but I know that is crazy.
(20:28):
and then I think, like rememberwhen Carwin, the rollercoaster
was broken?
Oh yeah.
Like what is the Carins termsand services saying you might
need to really look into that.
I haven't been to Carins inyears.
It's been a, well about two orthree years since I went,
because they started that rule,you know?
And so I had to go with Jay acouple times.
Well, they are putting in a, anadult only swimming pool with a
(20:50):
swim up bar.
Tell me that's not the worstdecision that they've ever made
to have.
That's a terrible decision.
Yeah.
In a redneck place anyway, tohave that.
No, boy, no.
Mm-hmm.
You've got the city mm-hmm.
Mentality.
And then you got the redneckmm-hmm.
Country mentality all in oneplace.
A swim up bar.
Mm-hmm.
Not, not a good mix.
(21:11):
Mm-hmm.
Not a good mix at all.
Not what I would suggest to, no.
Brian and I have always bothloved roller coasters and rides.
Mm-hmm.
And, universal has this wholenew thing opening up the
dragons.
Yes.
I am fascinated.
Oh my God.
They fly over.
I know.
(21:31):
I am all about it.
And they breathe fire.
Yes.
I'm, I know.
So it's, what's it called?
Universal Epic Universe, maybe?
I don't know, something likethat.
But it's got five differentareas that are called portals.
Mm-hmm.
One of'em is a Harry Potter one.
What?
I know.
It's the magic of ministry.
Ministry of magic, whatever.
(21:52):
Y'all know what I'm talkingabout.
And, then there's one that's theHow to Train Your Dragon.
And there's real life sized, orI'm like, I'm all about it.
That was one of Dylan's likemm-hmm.
Favorite movies at one point.
Mm-hmm.
And we watched it.
I don't know.
Many times.
Right.
But, um,'cause Toothless isblack and like just qc.
Yes.
So Dylan wanted to call MoToothless Toothless for like a
(22:17):
month.
And like obviously Mo was notlistening to him.
No he was not.
Because I'm like, buddy, that'swhen he had his missing front
tooth.
Yeah.
And I'm like, look in themirror, hun.
Yeah, you're toothless.
You are toothless.
Um, it looks like an amazingthough.
It so it opens in May.
Mm-hmm.
Till Brian, I said next yearwe've gotta go.
Yeah.
I would love to see it.
(22:38):
I wonder what's like best theslowest week.
We gotta look that up.
Best, best week to go.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's do it.
It looks like fun though.
My sister turns, 50 this yearand I had told her a long time
ago when she turned 50 we'd goon a trip.
Well, here we are.
And so we're trying to figureout what we're gonna do.
Fun.
I know.
I can't wait.
She come with, is it gonna belike an international trip or is
(23:00):
it gonna be like a Florida tripor what are we talking?
So we.
Going back.
I think Vegas I think we havelanded on,'cause she's never
been out of the country.
Okay.
she's never been on a cruise.
The farthest south she's been isFlorida.
So I said, you know what themost bang for your buck is gonna
be if we do a cruise.
(23:21):
Mm-hmm.
You can go to different portsand see different things.
Um, so we found one that goes toMexico and The Bahamas.
So it'd be a little bit of tasteof both.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so I think that's what we'regonna do.
Fun.
We're still trying to narrow itdown, but Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm excited.
When, when, when is it?
September.
That's awesome.
(23:42):
But that's also hurricane.
It is, it is.
But you know, I like to live onthe edge.
My mom's going on to cruisingtoo.
And I was like, Ooh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Brian and I got married inOctober and went on a cruise
right after and yeah.
Hurricane season.
Yeah.
We, got married in September.
Mm-hmm.
But we didn't cruise.
We went to Aruba.
Yeah.
And we just had, was it fine?
It was amazing.
(24:03):
Yeah.
I'm just gonna wing it like I doeverything else pretty much.
you don't gamble, right?
No.
No.
Like if somebody gave me ahundred dollars and said, this
is only to gamble, I'd be like,okay.
And I'd do that, but like totake my money and into it.
Yeah.
I just don't like that.
Mm-hmm.
How about you?
I'm not a gambler.
Yeah.
No.
On our honeymoon.
Brandon used to be.
And so he went to the casino.
(24:25):
I went to take a nap, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Sounds so long.
Brand.
I went to go lay down.
Yeah.
Before we went.
Got ready for dinner.
Yeah.
And so he went to the casino andI walked in and he always said
like, I was bad luck in thecasino.
Mm-hmm.
I am just not the gambler.
And Yeah.
Just bored.
Um, and he was like, go, he was,he was up a lot.
(24:46):
Yeah.
And he was like, go, go gethere.
Go.
That's funny.
Um, but he won like our entiretrip back cover board on, on my
first day.
I know several people that do.
And like when you sign up andyou spend money in there, you
spend a certain amount, theystart giving you.
Free cruises to come back whereyou pay like the taxes or the
fees or whatever.
(25:06):
So you get another cruise for300 bucks.
Mm-hmm.
For two people.
So, I mean, or you know, giftcards or whatever.
So, I mean, there's a plus sideto it.
I just, yeah, but I mean, you'rereally paying for it.
'cause what?
Yeah.
Well, you're more than likely tolose.
Yes.
And so I just like my money.
I do too.
Have you seen Vegas vacationwith, Chevy Chase?
(25:28):
It's an old movie.
Well, so, you know, they, theygo to Vegas and they have all
the fancy, the bright lights orwhatever where they're like,
this is too rich for my blood.
Let's go.
And they find like a redneck onewhere they're like, playing Go
Fish and stuff like that.
That's up my alley, like theGolden Horseshoe.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
And pretty much, um.
(25:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not a gambler.
I'm not either, but, I just, Idon't feel, I don't think rush,
I don't like, I don't either.
I hate anxiety.
Yeah.
Like, you know what machine I dolike though.
Mm.
And I know this more from likearcades where you put the
quarter in and it like, pushesit out a little bit at like, I
could sit there for hours and dothat.
Yeah.
I like playing that like at.
Like Chuck E Cheese, Chuck eCheese, or, um, Dave and
(26:10):
Busters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that always sucks mein., it's real money I couldn't
do, or if there's something withskill needed, like if there's
logic, like I don't wanna dothat.
I just wanna put it in and seewhat falls.
I at Arcade love ski ball.
Oh yeah.
Great at it.
But, but you love it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
And then there's a dinosaurgame, but like, you like.
(26:33):
Pull the little thing in.
The ball goes up.
Mm-hmm.
And there's all dinosaurs thatit can go through.
Oh yeah.
I always get so many tickets onthat one.
That's the one, that's it.
Mm.
That's a good one.
Have to make a trip.
Go Dave and Busters.
Yeah.
And get us some Sweet Tarts orTootsie Rolls, whatever they
have at the ticket counter.
Dylan's got a ton of tickets ona card or?
Yes.
They don't see tickets anymore.
(26:53):
It's all on.
Oh, I know.
It kind of ruin some of the fun,doesn't it?
Because you don't see like thebig long, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When the machine would break andit would just keep giving you
tickets and you just keptwinding them up.
We, oh, there was a place inCharlotte, I don't even know if
it's still open, but it was anarcade and it had go-karts and
stuff.
Uhhuh, celebration Station?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'll shut up.
It's over in Pinevillesomewhere.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe that is it.
(27:13):
Yeah.
I don't know.
Dylan, was little, like fourmaybe.
And, um, his cousins had comedown to visit.
Mm-hmm.
So we went there and none of themachines were locked.
Oh.
Just take this whole roll,please.
It wasn't even like, it was justlike getting the tokens.
Oh God.
Like you keep playing.
I didn't even care about thetickets.
It was just the tokens.
Yeah.
(27:33):
Some of them are so expensive.
Yes.
Have you gone to the I thinkthey've just, they, there's one
open now in Rock Hill, but theone that we went to was on the
way back from Morrisville.
'cause we were coming back froma lacrosse game and Parker, one
of Dylan's friends had abirthday party there as well.
But it's called a, a Bari Uhuh.
Um, but it is full of.
(27:54):
Old school, video games reallyconnect all 25 cents to play.
Oh.
Like you don't get tickets oranything?
It's just like fun.
Yeah.
It's just a fun thing.
Oh no, but that sounds like agreat time.
So, if you're under 21, you cango in before like five o'clock.
Okay.
Um, they don't serve food oranything, it's just drinks,
sodas.
Mm-hmm.
Water or alcohol.
Mm-hmm.
Um, after five it's adults only.
(28:15):
Okay.
But I feel like they're, theyput one in Rock Hill maybe.
That sounds like a lot of funthough.
Yeah.
25 cents.
like a game.
I like it.
Mm-hmm.
And then they also had an areathat you could just play old
school video games.
Like the OG Nintendo.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Oh man, that sounds like a Brianwould love that.
Mm-hmm.
We're gonna have to check thatout.
(28:36):
Yeah.
So that sounds like fun.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
yeah.
Cool.
do you want to continue?
Am I the A-hole?
Yes.
I'm dying for some updates onthis.
Okay.
Do we wanna do a little recap?
We should.
Okay, go ahead.
So I totally forgot what it wasabout.
It was a gay guy and his bestfriend and the gay guy had a
(28:56):
Chinese gay partner.
Yes.
And the sister was trying racistand a homophobe and trying to
steal the money because she haskids and Yes, the gay couple
does not have guilt.
Yes.
And it was their parent.
Both parents died and it wastheir inheritance.
But she said it was hers becauseshe had kids basically.
Right.
And the friend who made the am Ithe A-hole post wants to
(29:17):
publicly out her for what?
She, because she's a hippie.
Mm-hmm.
Well, she's like a on, she's atree hugger.
She's big in the community.
Yeah.
She's a tree hugger.
She is, yeah.
An awful person.
And one of the sisters flipsides.
So she's on his side now.
Right.
She initially wanted the kids tohave the money, but now, but now
once the lawyer got involved,she flipped.
Yes.
Okay.
update three, I think actions,consequences might finally be
(29:39):
hitting home.
She replied to my message withwhat a terrible thing to do to
me on election day.
Wait, that's the worst part ofall this.
I understand you care aboutHarry.
Nice.
But what you said isinappropriate and untrue.
Don't ever send me a messagelike this again.
Side note, she shared thatmessage with other people.
Yeah.
And it didn't hit the way shethought it was gonna hit.
(30:01):
Yep.
So now she's salty about it.
Yeah.
So, let's see.
Rachel, this is family money.
You don't have family, so itshould come to me.
That's so terrible.
Mm-hmm.
So Harry says, I do have family.
His name is Nathan, and we'vebeen together for 20 years.
Rachel.
Yeah, but when you die, he'll goback to Asia and spend the money
on his Asian family.
(30:23):
So it should come to me and myfamily.
Instead, entitlement check,homophobia check, racism check.
I've known her for 40 years andI've never heard her say
anything remotely like thisbefore.
And yes, she truly is a peaceloving tree hugging hippie.
That doesn't change the factthat I've also known her to
always feel entitled.
Perhaps she just doesn't realizeit because she usually gets what
(30:44):
she wants and people are oftenhappy to give it because she
generally is a lovely person.
But when this amount of money isat stake and she's told no, I
guess she just went into thedeath spiral.
Now she thinks she'll bepunishing me by forwarding the
message to Harry so that he'llrealize what a nasty person his
best friend is.
I can just imagine the smile onhis face when he reads it and
(31:05):
his response coming to me is,Ooh, you are awful.
And that's what I love aboutyou.
A I didn't respond to her anddon't intend to.
She knows where she stands withme now, and I have no interest
in dealing with her again.
Should she go down that roadagain though?
As the saying goes, I'll see youin court.
Hmm.
Update four.
This is the final update I feellike.
(31:28):
So that whole section is, youknow, in, the groups, like the
comment section isn't going howyou Yes, it would.
Yes.
So they delete.
Yes.
Rachel has crashed and burnedupdate four.
Oh, November 9th, sorry.
Yep.
And the other one was November7th, so this is just two days
later.
Mm-hmm.
Um, Rachel has crashed andburned as I suspected from the
start of the one thing shevalues more than money is her
(31:51):
reputation.
After forwarding my personalemail to a few mutual
acquaintances to show them hownasty I am, of course then it's
spread like wildfire.
Her children immediatelymessaged Terry and said they
were horrified by her actionsand the fact that she said she
was doing it for the family,they had no foreknowledge of
this and assured him theywouldn't let it happen.
(32:12):
They also know how entitledtheir mother can be.
And so they knew I would nevermake those accusations if it
wasn't true.
The one I'm closest to phoned meup to keep me up to date with
the fallout when questioned bydozens of people, if she really
was going to try to steal herbrother's money.
Rachel's prepared response was,no.
We had an agreement that if Ilooked after our parents, he
would leave me his inheritance.
(32:34):
He reneged on that agreement.
But Leave her the inheritance.
But why wouldn't he be able tospend his inheritance while he's
alive?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It's not like he's not, he's notgone anywhere.
He's still around, so whywouldn't he be able to spend his
inheritance because she's a babyB.
I understand that, but, butyeah.
But her logic, no.
Yeah.
(32:55):
There was a follow up question,but if he really is disabled and
about to become homeless, thenwhy wouldn't you just let him
have it anyway?
Realizing she was backed intoour corner.
There was only one way out.
Of course, I'm gonna give it tohim.
It was all just amisunderstanding.
And finally, who is this Jerry,and why is he accusing you of
being racist and homophobic?
(33:16):
She replied, yes, he's a friendof Harry's, but he's nasty and
mentally unstable.
He just concocted all of this asa part of his vendetta against
me.
So all done.
She publicly renounced her claimto Harry's money, and although
she's refuted the accusations ofbeing racist and homophobic, I
have no doubt they're gonnahaunt her to the grave.
And if a random bunch of peopleI'll never meet, and I believe
(33:38):
that some random guy on Facebookis nasty and mentally unstable,
then so be it.
I'll wear it with pride.
You should sue her fordefamation.
That's true.
Okay.
What are we on number five?
Yep.
Okay.
So two months have passed.
Yep.
My last post two months ago saidfinal update.
I thought the whole shit stormwas over.
I thought I had crushed Racheland her entitlement and that
(34:00):
Harry was free to live his lifein peace.
But apparently her entitlementis as.
Of such epic proportion, she'sgone in for another round.
It turns out that the B trollfrom H has been laying low while
she went to a financial advisorand has had a lawyer send Harry
a detailed account for the moneyhe owes her with a threat to
(34:22):
sue.
If he doesn't, again, shedoesn't have a legal leg to
stand on.
You can't claim retrospectivelythat a person made a verbal
financial contract with you.
So it's not that I'm afraid forHarry financially, it's just
that I cannot comprehend this.
She audacity of it.
And I've never thought of thisbefore because I've never
considered anything that I didwas a burden in any way to me.
(34:44):
But this whole incident thatwe've gone through is a trigger
and it's a repressed grudge.
I've held against her for over30 years.
Okay, so now we got somebackstory.
Mm.
Give us a teeth.
Harry and I were roommates backin the nineties.
One day she turned up at thatdoor with her oldest child,
male, 16.
She had great news.
She, or more probably Mary,secured him a scholarship in a
(35:07):
private school that specializedin computer science.
Fantastic.
And how fortunate that it wasthe school that just happened to
be in the same city that Harryand I lived in and how that as
gay men, we now would get toexperience the great joy of
raising a child.
And then she swanned off on hermerry way with her younger
children to travel the countryand world.
(35:27):
I was only 24 years old workingnight shift as a nurse and now
caring for a teenager during histwo senior years of high school
as well.
Can they, send her an invoicefor back child support?
Right.
But I loved it.
He was an amazing teen.
I've been using that word sinceI watched Agatha.
He was very grown up for hisage, very responsible, low
(35:49):
maintenance, just like having anew younger roommate except I
was paying the bills.
Well, sharing half with Harry.
That's bull crap.
Okay, lemme stop.
Not my kid, not my nephew, butthe son of my best friend's
sister.
But I did it without a thought.
And even Loki knew I was doinghim a favor by giving him a
better chance of the future.
(36:09):
His mother could have.
At 18, he moved out with somefriends and I was so proud.
His school grades were so great.
He got a scholarship to acollege where he could further
his computer science career.
Okay.
The year after Teen graduated,Rachel turns up again with the
next oldest child, female.
16.
Great news.
She got a scholarship to an artscollege for her two senior
(36:29):
years.
So it was really just a carry onas usual.
Great time with Teen two me,never considering for a moment.
It was also a great expense.
She did really well at highschool, got into her dream gap
year working in Paris andBerlin.
Mm-hmm.
Now I've been triggered.
Rachel has gone to a lawyer andput this respective financial
claim for caring for a familymember against her brother.
(36:52):
It was her brother and I wholooked after her two children
for two years working our buttsoff to cover rent bills, food
and school expenses while shewas living off the social
security single mother benefitand their father's child
support.
I've looked up severalgovernment websites last weekend
and used the figures to createan Excel spreadsheet.
This is what you're saying?
Mm-hmm.
It costs$13,000 a year to raisea teenager.
(37:14):
I paid half, so that's$6,500.
I did that for four years, sothat's$26,000.
So as my update, I got a copy ofthe letter Rachel's lawyer sent
to Harry.
I then went to a lawyer myselftoday and got him to write a
letter using literally the exactsame words as she did to claim
$26,000 with a threat to sue.
Let me clap for him.
Mm-hmm.
If she doesn't pay, the lawyerwas absolutely stunned and said
(37:37):
something to the effect of, youknow, this is the most
ridiculous letter I've writtenin my entire career, and then
I'm going to have to charge youa thousand dollars for it.
Right.
I told'em it wasn't about themoney.
It was worth every cent for thesatisfaction of imagining the
look on her effing face when sheopened it.
I haven't told the children andnever will, as I would never
want them to think they were aburden on me in any way.
(37:57):
However, I'm sure now as adultsin their forties, they'd be
absolutely horrified to knowthat their mother was using
their child support money totravel the world while I raised
them just as horrified as theywere when they heard she was
bullying Harry for his money.
I do hope Rachel takes this asthe implied threat to go public
justice as I did last time,though.
Oh my God.
(38:18):
But you know what?
He needs to be one of ourbesties.
'cause like, I think so.
The buddy like the media.
Oh, I think so.
I think we would have a greattime.
I do too.
Can you come on the pod, Mr.
Guy?
Mm-hmm.
Jerry.
Jerry.
Mm-hmm.
We, we got Please, please comeon the pod.
We got a seat.
Just that's for you buddy.
Mm-hmm.
And I think I would triple lovehim because the petty.
(38:39):
Mm-hmm.
I feel like they're Britishbecause the way he spells things
like realized is spelleddifferent.
Don't have the z.
It has s Is that how they spellit there?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I didn't know that.
So.
Or European.
Okay.
So you know he is got an accentof some sort.
And number three, gay dudes areso fun.
Oh my gosh.
I know.
Um, okay.
Crazy pants.
(39:00):
That's a lot.
Mm-hmm.
To unpack Yeah.
That, to just drop that offwithout any support or
conversation or the audacity,Jerry, keep going with
everything you're doing.
Mm-hmm.
And multiply at times athousand.
Yeah.
I, I love the energy.
Yeah.
Yes.
I cannot wait for more.
Yes.
so we'll finish this, round nextweek.
(39:22):
Yeah.
with the last few, I think theremight have been a, a bonus one
that just came in.
Okay.
when I went to go pull these fortoday.
Okay.
it said bonus content.
Yeah.
So we have two, maybe three Yes.
For next week that we'll, thatwe'll have for next week.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Jerry, we love you.
Love you Jerry.
so if you are not a book readerYep.
(39:43):
This is your time to exit,please come back next week so
that we can finish up the am Ithe A-hole with Jerry and,
please, like, subscribe, tellyour friends to listen.
We love you.
We love you.
Bye.
All right.
Now bookies, we actually switchup.
as I put in the podcast lastweek, we had initially.
We're meant to read one book andit was not great because life is
too short for bad books.
(40:04):
We switch.
Yes.
so I had texted Meredith.
Yep.
And I was like, I can't do this.
I don't know if my book likingshave changed.
Mm-hmm.
Or if it was listening to thebook.
It was just horrible to hear.
Yeah, I agree.
I, I started it and I was thesame.
So I was happy to jump ship withthat line.
Awesome.
So, but we did do, if somethinghappens to me Yes.
That Alex Finley and we haveread Alex Finley before.
(40:27):
Mm-hmm.
actually just a couple weeksago.
Yep.
It was one of our books.
And I do really like thisauthor, so Yeah.
Same.
Let me get to my blurb allright, if something happens to
me by Alex Finley, RyanRichardson has spent five years
haunted by the night hisgirlfriend Ally was taken,
leaving him under suspiciondespite no charges.
(40:48):
Now, as a law student in Italy,his past resurfaces when Ally's
car is found submerged in hishometown with two dead men.
In a cryptic note in herhandwriting, when Ryan spots the
man who has tormented hisdreams, he embarks on a
dangerous search for the truthacross Europe, unaware that a
young Kansas deputy and aPhiladelphia mob may hold the
(41:08):
key to unraveling the mystery inthis twist filled thriller by
Alex Finley.
So when we were messaging theother day trying to coordinate,
our recording this week, I waslike, I can't wait to talk to
you about this book because thepremise of this book was so
exciting and parts of this bookI was so into, but then I would
just totally zone out.
(41:29):
Okay.
And some of it I think, Some ofthe storyline was so slow.
Mm-hmm.
and kept getting into the bookand then like I Yeah.
Pulled back.
Yeah.
So I agree 100% and I don't knowif it was, I, I wonder if we
would've read it, if it would'vehad a different, I think if it
would entice you in a differentway.
So you have to pay attentionwhen you're physically reading.
Right.
Can't just zone multitask andYeah.
Yeah.
Do whatever.
so probably, yeah.
(41:50):
but it's not your typical, Ifeel Alex Finley.
I.
Speed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of a book, upholding yourattention and, and keeping you
mm-hmm.
Enticing, engaged.
Mm-hmm.
So, I agree with you a hundredpercent.
Yeah.
Okay.
I actually read it twice.
Okay.
Because I got lost, there was alot of name changes because of
(42:11):
the identity changes, fordifferent reasons.
I think another problem wasthere's too many characters
Yeah.
To keep track of.
Yes, yes.
There was a lot.
and there wasn't really much ofa distinction between them.
I mean, yeah.
So after I figured out theending and kind of what
happened, I went back and, andread it again.
And it made more sense thesecond time.
(42:31):
And I did it super fast.
Yeah.
But just to try to be like, oh,that's what that meant, you
know, kind of thing.
Mm-hmm.
No, I'm with you.
I, yeah.
Was the same way.
Okay.
Obviously spoiler just dospoilers every week.
So hopefully you read the book.
If you're not gonna read itagain, you can leave.
Why are you here?
I'm just kidding.
But, I don't want to spoil it.
Mm-hmm.
If anybody hasn't.
but here's the spoilers.
(42:52):
As soon as they revealed thatAnthony, which was the mobster
son, was bullied and it wasvideotaped, I knew that she was
either in witness protection,like, okay.
It immediately clicked to methat that was the daughter of
the accountant.
Okay.
because he said that she wasseen in the, mirror.
Yeah.
So I knew, but I didn't thinkthat they were trying to kill
(43:13):
her because the.
Accountant helped cover it up.
Right.
I thought that they were goingafter her, and then I was like,
well, maybe I misheard it.
Yeah.
So I kind of misheard it, andthat was her friend that was in
the room laughing.
But, so the first time Ilistened to it, I didn't get any
of the pieces that all thepeople were dying.
I did not all, all the kids.
(43:34):
Mm-hmm.
I did not get the why.
I was like, what?
What's the connection?
Like, is this just like filler?
Is this even important to know?
and again, maybe half listening,I don't know.
But, but yeah, I was thrown fora loop with that, and I didn't
put it together though, so.
Okay.
Proud of you for that.
Yeah.
So I mean, immediately I'm like,okay, well this has to be like a
big piece of the puzzle.
(43:55):
Yeah.
And the accountant was likesuper, like sketched out having
to work for this guy because thewife's debt to him and whatever.
So it all came together for methere.
Yeah.
Okay.
I thought it was very.
Well thought of the accountantto steal all the money.
I know, I know.
But I guess it's an accountant,right?
Like Right.
And that's, I guess, too, whenyou're dealing with that kind of
(44:17):
people you Yeah.
Know to protect yourself,they're, they're not gonna the
cops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And how about for him to havedoubled the money?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And the brother, how about thebrother?
Like, so the gangster's brother.
The gangster's brother was like,how much money do you have left,
I guess, thinking he would havenothing left less.
Right.
(44:37):
And he's basically said hedoubled what he had and he said,
wow, okay, well send 15 Right.
To my brother, send 5 millionGreat to me.
Yeah.
Or I said a thousand.
Yeah.
Numbers are tough, but yeah, sohe was trying to skim off the
top of his brother.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, I mean, that's thelifestyle, right?
Then the accountant.
(44:58):
Having been in the military wasnot like your geeky accountant.
Right.
And I'm like trying to picturethis as a movie.
Right.
And I don't know if like you dothis, when I'm listening to a
book is I see it in my head tooas a movie.
Right.
Yeah.
And then like, I'm like castingpeople as roles, but even when I
read mm-hmm.
And I saw this, I don't know ifit was on, um, Facebook or
TikTok, that some people likedon't hear it when they're
(45:21):
reading.
Like when I read something, likeI hear it, I do too, because I
mispronounce words and I just gowith it.
But like, some people don't.
And I was like, that'sinteresting.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, well, is thatpart of the a DD like, or the,
you know what I mean?
Like Yeah.
Where you have to like, filleverything, all the, all the
senses need to be mm-hmm.
(45:41):
Engaged.
Maybe.
Isn't that weird?
Mm-hmm.
I thought that was so strange.
I couldn't imagine just readingit and not hearing anything.
What's going on in your headthen?
Oh my God.
See?
Right.
See, if I wasn't.
Seeing that and hearing it, Iwould have other things going on
that weren't related to thebook, then I wouldn't pay
attention at all.
So I'm like reading book.
Right.
Uhhuh, I'm hearing it in myhead.
(46:03):
Mm-hmm.
And then I'm picturing uhhuh mythings.
Yeah.
And, and I'm like, do peoplehave such a quiet brain?
Mm-hmm.
But they don't do that.
Right.
Y'all, if you, if you do that,if you don't have everything
going on right.
When you're reading, please letus know.
I'm so fascinated.
I am too.
I wanna know, is your mind justdark and quiet at that time?
Do do you have any moments ofdark and quiet?
(46:25):
I can't imagine because I don't,never, never.
I I'm never constantly likemm-hmm.
All over the place.
Oh yeah.
All over the place.
So let us know.
Let us know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
That's crazy.
I was so bummed at the end ofthe book, um, Chaz.
Yeah.
Who was like one of thehenchmen.
Yep.
(46:45):
And he, he was such a softie.
Yeah.
And then he got mur whacked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that.
I was like, Aw.
I know.
He was just like such a greatgrandfather.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Showing up at the, the play, theplay for the grandson.
Yeah.
I know.
And I was like, Aw.
That was sad.
It was sad How did you feelthough about, Allison slash
(47:08):
whatever her names were?
Let me rephrase.
Mm-hmm.
I liked that the author didn'tput her back together with, our
dude.
Yeah.
I mean, so many times it's like.
They try to force stuff likethat.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm glad that she was like,you've already found somebody.
Yeah.
Kinda.
But I was bumed for him becausethat was such a huge piece of
his life and I believe that hestill wanted her, but I, I
(47:29):
agree.
But I think if he would've hadher, it wouldn't have been like
it was, I, I a hundred percentpercent agree, but it just kind
of like mm-hmm.
She didn't even give him achance.
So I was like, he just did allof this to find you and Yeah.
And how did the letter stay inone piece?
I don't know.
'cause it was in the water.
Yeah.
So that didn't make any sense tome.
Zero sense.
We just got lucky.
Yeah.
Make zero sense FBI agent thatlike double crossed.
(47:54):
Oh yeah.
I was so happy when Poppypunched her in the face.
I know.
I was like, you go girl.
I thought that was the cutestname too.
I love that name.
I love it.
I love it.
I love that name.
That's what Jackson calls mysister Bobby.
Yeah.
did you like the book?
I, I did.
Again, it, it was slow at somepoints.
Yeah.
But I loved the premise of it.
(48:14):
Yeah.
I thought it was a cool, itwould make a cool movie.
Yeah.
because again, I saw the moviein my head.
You saw it in your head, but,yeah.
I mean, I liked it.
Yeah.
Well enough.
I, I just, it could have moved alittle faster.
Yeah.
and there was too many peoplefor me to keep track of
listening to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I a hundred percent agree.
So I would give it like a seven.
Same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very, very cool.
(48:35):
I'm fascinated with witnessprotection stuff, but it just,
some parts of it just didn'tclick for me.
Mm-hmm.
It was hard for me to stayengaged.
Yeah.
And oh, just, I know Ally, um,kicking the two boys butts that
were bullying.
Oh yeah.
That was great.
Oh, you go ally.
I know, I know.
That was great.
That was great.
all right, so, our next bookthat we're gonna be reading is
just another Missing Person byJillian McAllister.
(48:57):
And we have read her books aswell.
Yes.
And we like her.
Yes.
A lot.
So I'm excited for this book.
Don't disappoint me, Jillian.
Ooh.
All right.
So I'm gonna read the.
Blurb for this one.
Okay.
22-year-old Olivia has beenmissing for one day and
counting.
She was last seen on CCTVentering a dead end alley and
not coming back out again.
(49:18):
Julia, the detective heading upthe search for Olivia thinks she
knows what to expect, adesperate family, a ticking
clock, and long hours away fromher husband and daughter, but
she has no idea just how closeto home this case is going to
get because the criminal at theheart of the disappearance has
something she never expected.
His weapon isn't a gun or aknife.
It's a secret.
Her worst one and her family'ssafety depends on one thing.
(49:41):
Julia must not find out whathappened to Olivia and must
frame someone else for hermurder.
If you find her, you'll loseeverything.
What would you do?
This clever and endlesslysurprising thriller is laced
with a smart look at family andmotherhood and cements Jillian
McAllister as a major talent inthe world of suspense and master
creating ethical dilemmas thatshow just how murky the
(50:01):
distinction between right andwrong can be.
It sounds good.
It does.
It sounds like a cool movie.
That, just kidding.
I was gonna say plot.
Yeah, it does.
It really does.
But yes, a movie too.
Yeah., I'm excited for that one'cause we, we've had luck with
her, so hopefully this one willbe a good one too.
Yeah.
So already downloaded it.
Whoop, whoop, whoop.
Alright, well I think that wrapsit up for today.
(50:23):
It does.
Thank you all.
Thank you.
We love you.
We love you.
Bye.
Bye.
that wraps up another episodeof, this is My Circus.
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I'm Stephanie.
I'm Meredith.
And welcome to you.
This is my circus.
Hi.
Hi.
I keep looking at this mic'causeI feel we usually have it
higher, don't we?
We do.
I like it like this though,'cause I feel like I can make
eye contact.
Gaze into my eyes.
Gaze into your eyes.
How you been?
I've been okay.
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It is so absolutely gorgeousoutside.
I know.
I could just roll around in theyard.
Yes.
Well, Dylan is not feeling well.
Oh, allergy crappy.
No, he's said last night, hisstomach, he goes like, really,
really bad.
And then he, went into work for40 minutes.
Mm-hmm.
And like in that 40 minutes Ihad dropped him off.
Stomach stuff?
Yeah.
And a ginger ale and theGatorade.
(01:02):
Mm-hmm.
And he had, I texted him like,do you need anything from Food
Lion?
Do you want me to pick you upanything?
Right.
He's like, no, I'm leaving herein a few minutes.
So he had left, he's beenupstairs in bed since.
Aww.
That's tough.
That's, I hate that.
So I'm like, just text me if youneed something.
Right, right.
Just let me know.
Let me know.
Ring the little bell.
Mm-hmm.
Or text.
I know everybody's allergies areacting out too.
Is that time of year.
(01:22):
And I love being outside rightnow, but mm-hmm.
Well, at least everything isn'tcovered in yellow yet.
I know.
I'm sure that's coming.
It is.
I'm sure that's coming.
Mm-hmm.
Um, we've had our windows opensome at home and it feels so
good, but I'm like, shut'em up.
It's bedtime.
Shut'em up.
I know we're all probably allgonna be stuffy and stuff, but
Well, it was like 34 thismorning when I got Yes.
(01:45):
So yes.
I know.
I heard that he cut on it.
I was like, what happened?
Yeah.
And tomorrow I think it'ssupposed to be like 75.
Mm-hmm.
So, you know, whatever.
well I do sleep at the windowcracked because the bedroom,
it's so hot.
Yeah.
so, and he then is I.
Moving around all night long.
Mm-hmm.
If he's hot.
So I keep the window, heprobably produces a lot of heat
(02:06):
too.
This big furry guy.
Yeah.
Well we took a nap togetheryesterday and wait till I said
you weren't a nap or, I had, Ithink it's the allergies.
Yeah.
but I did lay down on the floorwith him and I had my pillow he
leaned off of his bed uhhuh andput his head on the pillow over
next to my head.
Oh my God.
He is just the sweetest dog.
And we laid there for probablylike an hour.
(02:28):
Bless that puppy.
Yes.
So he's my good boy.
Yeah.
He's the goodest boy.
do you always sleep with yourwindow?
Correct.
So last night, did you mm-hmm.
Being 35, unless I know, likethe night before they was
supposed to storm.
Yeah.
I did not.
Yeah.
But when it's not gonna storm, Inormally do have a little bit of
air flow.
Yeah.
And I have a fan on.
Yeah.
I don't blame you.
(02:48):
We have two fans in our bedroom.
Mm-hmm.
So we have our ceiling fan.
Then I have one on my side ofthe bed that if a hot flash
kicks in, I just reach over andclick it.
So yeah, I get it.
I'm apparently, we've talkedabout this, I'm a high
maintenance sleeper.
Yeah.
Well, I know that happens.
I'm not upset about it.
Mm-hmm.
Not worried about it.
It was good to see you at theSt.
Patrick's Day thingy.
Yeah.
(03:08):
I, I wish we could have hungout.
I just had, you know, you see somany people, so, did y'all have
fun?
Yeah.
I mean, it was, I mean, I knowit's so different Yes.
Going as an adult without kids.
Yes.
And I, it was way more fun withthe kids, even though in that
moment I was like, ah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It went from wanting to ride allthe rides, to play all the
(03:30):
games, to walk around bythemselves to all the money, to
buy all the food, and nownothing.
Mm-hmm.
And it's, yeah, it's justanother stage.
I told Brian, I said, I mean, Ilike going and walking around,
but it's just a totallydifferent perspective.
I.
Um mm-hmm.
When there's no littles to beaton the lookout for, and Yeah.
I, yeah.
Oh, it's kinda sad.
(03:51):
Yeah.
I, yeah.
Yeah.
It was something to do and itwas a pretty day Yeah.
For us.
So that's why Yeah.
We got out.
Yeah.
We, we got out, we went.
It was good to see your mom.
Yeah.
Yo mom, El Madre.
She's so cute.
Yeah.
Yeah.
anything else exciting going on?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
No, I know you've been workinghard on our website.
I have.
I appreciate all of that.
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And you guys will too.
Yeah.
We have one more connection todo, for the connecting the audio
stuff, and I think we'll beready.
Nice.
So that's coming very, very,very, very soon.
As soon as we we're waiting forfeedback from the company on
that, right?
Mm-hmm.
How to link all that up.
Yeah.
Cool, cool, cool.
I've gone through, they addedlike a new option, but that
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option still didn't work forwhat we needed, and so they're
trying to find a workaround.
Okay.
You are just, you are thepresident, you are the
secretary, you are the, I don'tknow, you're everything other
than I feel like the courtjester here.
I come juggling things.
I feel like they're both alittle clowny.
(04:53):
Yes, yes.
But you, you honestly do more ofthe, other work.
I told you today, I was gonna bea better person to help with
stuff, so it's all good.
Okay.
so have you seen on the TikTok,this dude named Ace that teaches
people to dance?
Mm, maybe.
I don't know.
So a lot of dancer people, oh mygosh.
(05:14):
He cracks me up.
So his TikTok name is Real AceGreen, and what he does is he
teaches people how to dospecific dances to songs over
Zoom.
Okay.
Oh.
Yeah.
So, oh God, what has made himthe most popular is he has this
(05:34):
group of dudes in Pakistan thathe's teaching like the Kendrick
Lamar dances and stuff.
It is hilarious.
Speaking of dances.
Yeah.
Do you remember like two weeksago I sent you the chicken
banana?
Yeah.
And I said we should do it.
And you were like, and now it'sall over.
(05:54):
Poor coal on my side.
Chicken.
Oh no.
It was the other way.
Yeah.
Chicken banana.
Um.
But yeah, so he, it's, so hisvideos are him and then five
other dudes like in their littleblocks on the, on the TikTok
thing, and he's telling themwhat to do.
(06:15):
And, you know, there's a, alittle bit of a language barrier
there.
Everybody speaks English, butit's kind of iffy.
And then there's the delay.
And um, like the other day I waswatching one and there was a
chicken that started tocrawling.
He was like, whose chicken isthat?
Like, it is so funny.
It is so funny to watch.
And then he'll have other groupsof people, um.
Another day was like Grand Asiangrandmothers or something.
(06:36):
Like, it's hilarious.
And they're just in there vibingand having a good time.
So he's the real ace Green.
If you wanna check out somebodyfunny, why not?
Right.
I could use a lot oflightheartedness.
Me too.
There's too much crap in theworld.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
did you see, the updates onGypsy Rose?
No, I haven't.
we haven't talked about her in along time.
(06:57):
No.
But she has had her baby,obviously.
Okay.
but she does not have custody ofher child.
What?
Yes, she does not have custody.
Ken has custody.
And this is all alleged, do notsue us.
Um, but she, but if you'relistening Gypsy Rose and you'd
like to be on, let us know.
Mm-hmm.
You don't even wanna like, no, Idon't like her.
No, I don't like her either, butI would tell her what a horrible
(07:19):
human Well, that's fine, but wecould get her on, I tell her.
But listen, karma is gettingher, hold on one second.
Okay.
Sorry.
Let me calm down.
Gypsy Rose is not have custodyof her baby.
Ken has custody.
Um, gyp, gypsy gets twovisitations a week for two hours
each time.
and that corresponds with herparole.
Okay.
The baby supposedly looks justlike her mama.
(07:39):
Bless Karma.
Yeah, she's gotta look at thatbaby.
Yes.
And see her mama.
Oh, not her mama as in Gypsy,but her grandma.
Okay, I got you.
Yeah.
She looks Deedee just likeDeedee.
Ha ha.
after a week, in the hospitalafter she had the baby, the
parole had called CPS and gotCPS involved because they did
not feel she was safe.
Yes.
(08:01):
Cause of the crime she committedand obviously the baby, safety
was a concern.
I guess, randomly she lives, Ibelieve with her dad and
stepmom.
Mm-hmm and so, when they did asearch of the house randomly, I
guess they found a box of wineand a bottle of prescription
pills hidden in a closet.
But they don't necessarily thinkit's gypsies.
They think it might be thestepmom.
(08:23):
Christie, what?
Yeah.
And then it was reported.
It's just messy.
I know it's reported that Gypsyis mad at the baby because the
baby took Ken away from her,like grow up.
Oh my gosh.
I can't stand her.
Me either.
I don't want her on the show.
(08:43):
Ken can come on the show'causehe'll have all the real tea.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
Right, right.
But no gypsy can go.
Crawl under a rock.
Sounds like she might be headingthat way.
Did you see the updates?
I think you tagged me in it onMara Murray.
Mm-hmm.
And the, the, the dude, I forgetwhat was his name.
Yeah.
(09:04):
I got, the summary.
You got the summary up?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
This was crazy.
So Ma Murray is one of those, Ithink, didn't we just do the hot
takeover?
We, we wasn't Yeah, it was the,the rapid fire.
Rapid fire thing.
Yeah.
Ma Marie Case fascinates me witheverything, with her taking the
money out, buying so muchalcohol, no footprints, all the
things.
Yeah.
So there was a some new findingsand it was just weird timing.
(09:26):
Yes.
'cause we had just posted thatrapid fire, true crime Yes.
of her case.
And I was scrolling on Facebookand saw that article mm-hmm.
That I put into our group.
but it says here that a sourceclose to the investigation
revealed that fingerprints fromMaura Murray's car have been
matched to a former West Pointcadet, Stephan Baldwin, who
confirmed the match.
(09:48):
Here's what we know, background.
And he did change his name aftershe went.
Mm-hmm.
She disappeared.
Mm-hmm.
Like, mm-hmm.
Creepy.
Right.
So background and connection.
Stephan Baldwin.
Born Stephan Finkelstein,Einhorn and Finkelstein.
Wait, is that in, is that doubledo dle.
Duffels, yeah.
Ventura.
(10:09):
The platypus, isn't it?
Oh, I don't know.
I was thinking, oh, I'm thinkingEinhorn and Finkle of Ace
Ventura.
Wow.
I was thinking of the cartoon onDisney Channel.
Both of us squirrels all overthe place.
Okay.
Change his name.
Yes, he changed his name.
he attended West Point alongsideMara Murray.
He claims they were in arelationship and that he even
represented her before thejudicial review board.
(10:30):
He left the academy shortlyafter Maura withdrew from school
and changed his name after her2004 disappearance.
Criminal history Baldwin isknown in the dog rescue
community, but later becameinfamous for killing at least 18
dogs.
Oh, and up to a hundred cats inOhio.
He was accused of needneedlessly, euthanizing animals
to free up space for morerescues and funneling nonprofit
(10:52):
funds for personal use.
After fleeing to Californiawhere he allegedly killed more
dogs, he was arrested in August,2020 and charged with 42
felonies.
Ohio Police submitted hisfingerprints to the national
database and a match was foundon evidence, A CD or CD case
from Morris's Carr, a NewHampshire Detective even labeled
(11:13):
him his number one suspectbefore leaving the unit.
Amid controversy the FBIquestioned Baldwin in Spring
2024.
He denied any involvement andmentioned suspicions of another
cadet stalking Maura, but thatjust sounds like he's just
trying to slide the guilt.
Mm-hmm.
Last Thursday, Baldwin wassentenced to 15 years in prison
for his crimes in Ohio.
Meanwhile, his abusive behaviorhas been highlighted by former
(11:35):
girlfriends, two of whomtragically died, adding more
mystery.
Baldwin's estranged Mother,Barbara Baldwin is currently
missing and may have changed hername.
Baldwin now claims he has neverbeen to UMass or New Hampshire.
Raising more questions.
If you have any informationlinking him to those areas,
(11:56):
please reach out to.
Somebody more important than us.
Yes.
The authorities.
Yes.
Is that not insane?
Bananas and like, ew, Uhhuh, hehurts animals.
Right?
Red flags all over the place forthat.
Red flags.
He hurts animals, he funnels themoney.
Like he would tell people thatthey would, he would hold their
(12:19):
animal for a thousand dollars orwhatever, and then still
euthanize the animal and pocketthe money and tell them they
lost the animal and stuff.
Like, just, just a shady, shadyjerk hole.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So there's too many missingpeople.
Too many mm-hmm.
Things that around him thatjust.
(12:39):
It's not good.
Right.
But at least he's gonna be injail.
Mm-hmm while they figure thisout.
Yeah.
And try to connect more dotswith him.
Mm-hmm.
So the only place I rememberthem saying that there were the
fingerprints was the cd mm-hmm.
Or the CD case.
Mm-hmm.
That's the only place they said.
Right.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean,'cause I understandtrading CDs back in the day.
Yeah.
You know, fingerprints onthings, but Oh God.
(13:01):
Could you imagine?
Oh no, there's, let's not evengo down that path.
And I think, like my hair, I gotshed talk.
Yes.
I'm like, what if like, my hairis left somewhere?
Yes.
I think that too.
So, okay, hear me out.
You're sitting at a stoplightand you got your hair in a
ponytail, whatever, and you golike this.
Mm-hmm.
And like just now I got onehair, I throw it out the window
(13:22):
and I'm always thinking, what ifsomebody comes and picks that up
and plants it out of crime?
And I get framed.
How about like, and I think wemight have touched on this
briefly once, but wigs, I don'tknow.
I don't know how that workseither.
Or does it have to have like theroot with it?
Oh, probably the root.
Can they get your DNA from hair,like the end of your hair?
No, I, they can get drug stuff,but, but I don't think they can
(13:48):
get DNA.
I think the DNA has to be theroot.
Okay.
I think drug stuff can be okaybecause like, I mean, you're,
you're cutting your hair forthe, the wig so that then
necessarily Yeah.
It's not either scalping you,hopefully not, hopefully not.
I don't think it works that way.
but yeah, all the, the thingswith DNAI used to think about
that when people would likethrow a cigarette out.
That's got your DNA on it.
(14:08):
That's, you should protect thatsir.
And ma'am, you shouldn'tliterally Well, and you
shouldn't smoke anyway.
Yeah.
But, all of things, all ofthose, just everything related
to that is bad.
was it the book?
No.
I don't know.
Maybe it was a book I just read,or I don't know, somewhere.
But the cops followed the personaround all day trying to get
(14:28):
DNA, mm-hmm.
From whatever.
and finally the guy went tolunch and he waited till the guy
left the table, hadn't beencleared yet, and he went in and
asked the restaurant for the cupand bagged his DNA that way.
And I'm like, Ooh, yeah, Iwouldn't want that job.
I mean, I don't want to be in acrime that they need my DNA.
No, I don't.
Sure.
(14:49):
But I mean, like, should youclear the table yourself?
Like wipe everything down beforeyou can I have, disposable
everything?
Yeah.
Just take it with me.
Right.
Disposable everything.
I get it.
I wonder if the restaurant couldhave said no.
I don't know.
I don't know how that workseither.
Lawyers chime in.
Tracy.
That's, yeah.
That's crazy.
(15:10):
Uh, speaking of DNA, I neverknew this and I just saw a clip
of it somewhere, and I'm notsure which platform it was, but,
OJ Simpson's case.
Mm-hmm.
Like Nicole Brown.
Mm-hmm.
Simpson Case.
Did you know that her handymanwas a serial killer?
No, I didn't either.
I'm like, how did I not knowthis?
(15:30):
But I was like, really youngwhen this all occurred, so I
wasn't young, but I, I followedand things were way different
back then You got what the newssaid.
Right.
You didn't have any othersources to research.
but no, I mean, the most Ireally remember are the cases,
like the glove.
If the glove don't foot, youmust have quit.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Yeah.
I'm not too, too familiar.
I never like deep dope into it.
(15:51):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but I didn't know thiseither, and so as I was
scrolling, I was like, no way.
So the Handyman's name was GlenEdward Rogers, and he was the
cross country killer, or alsoknown as a Casanova killer.
Oh my gosh.
And he unalived 70 people.
There's a couple of different, Iguess, theories is that either
he helped oj mm-hmm.
(16:13):
With this, or OJ found out thathe was a serial killer and just
assumed that it would get pinnedon him.
Right.
I don't remember them mentioningthat in the trial or any of the
documentaries or podcasts oranything I've listened to.
Mm-hmm.
Isn't that bananas?
Yeah.
Like, ew.
Very, that's so creepy.
(16:34):
Do you think you've met somebodywho's a killer?
Well, they say, you will pass aserial killer like six times in
your life.
And you don't hear about serialkillers like they, you did like
back in like the seventies orwhatever.
It's probably so that it doesn'tcreate hysteria or people's just
shooting.
Mm-hmm.
But there's supposed to be a tonof active serial killers mm-hmm.
(16:56):
At all times.
And we just don't know about it.
Yeah.
And there's something was justsaid a week ago or so, they
thought there was an activeserial killer in Florida.
In Florida, yeah.
going up 95.
Yeah.
I can't, the last ones Iremember hearing about are the
ones who were, snipers.
Mm-hmm.
The DC mm-hmm.
And then there was another onerecently too.
(17:19):
But as far as just like the TedBundys or the Green River
killers or, mm-hmm.
Yeah.
You just don't, or are we justthat numb to it?
I mean, I don't hear nothing onYeah.
The news or it's not, you know,not that I watch the news.
No.
Maybe that's why we don't hearanything.
That's crazy.
That's creepy.
Can you, I wonder which sixpeople have passed?
(17:40):
Three.
It's, I still got three.
I got a long life left to live.
I, I don't know, mm-hmm.
I know.
Mm-hmm.
Well, not even just serialkillers, but just like killers.
Nevermind.
Take all this out.
Um, I don't wanna be, become atarget for anything.
Yeah, me too.
Anyway, moving on.
We really need to start lookingat terms and services of things
(18:01):
that we sign up for.
Yeah.
So a doctor died at Disney Worldor Disneyland, whichever Disney
place.
Mm-hmm.
Um, at a restaurant because of asevere allergy.
And they had discussed with thewaiters multiple times mm-hmm.
Before they ordered.
Mm-hmm.
We, to assure them it wasallergy free.
Mm-hmm.
It was not.
And the doctor died.
(18:22):
So the husband wanted to sueDisney mm-hmm.
For 50,000, which I thought wasreally low.
Mm-hmm.
And Disney said, no, you're notallowed to sue.
Because the one month free trialof Disney Plus in 2019, when you
signed up for that, stated thatany disputes go to Arbitrary.
Arbitrary Sure.
(18:42):
And that you can't bring it tocourt.
So why a, TV streaming freesubscription.
It's all, all Disney covered.
So wherever it was publiclymm-hmm.
Put out, there was a bunch ofoutrage and people were like,
protesting Disney and theydropped that where they can now
go to court for this proceeding.
(19:04):
But it's only, I don't wanna sayonly 50,000, but it's only
50,000.
I how Brian would sue formillions of something.
Same.
I mean, that, that was my, like,I was like, only 50,000.
Like that's really low.
Yeah.
Yeah.
that's a lot of pressure on thewaiter or the server though.
Like, do you wanna beresponsible for that?
And they preserved the food.
Oh, maybe it was fine and it gotswitcheroo by somebody, I don't
(19:26):
know, but why not just pay the50,000 and make it go away?
Mm-hmm.
Like the amount of money thatDisney makes every year.
Yeah.
50,000 is like five sense to us.
Yeah.
Like just pay it and go.
Right.
Why would you make, mm.
They're proving a point, I guessnot sure what point that is, but
we all need to look at whatwe're signing up.
Yes.
(19:47):
I mean, you're right, you'resigning up to watch it to stream
on tv.
Who would've thought that, thatwould never write terms and
services of anything?
Nothing.
Anything ever.
Only when I write the documentsfor work, and that's just like
speed reading.
I've never ever read terms andservices.
I, oh my gosh, that is crazythat that's looped in.
(20:07):
But I guess it's all covered byDisney.
I know.
It just blows my mind.
A streaming service, Uhhuh cancover your trip to mm-hmm.
to the park.
And I would assume that when youbuy tickets, there's probably
something Oh yeah.
That's what I thought it wasgonna go to.
Right, right, right.
Was that you bought with Jacobthat one little checkbox that
you do agree and continue.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
But, but I know that is crazy.
(20:28):
and then I think, like rememberwhen Carwin, the rollercoaster
was broken?
Oh yeah.
Like what is the Carins termsand services saying you might
need to really look into that.
I haven't been to Carins inyears.
It's been a, well about two orthree years since I went,
because they started that rule,you know?
And so I had to go with Jay acouple times.
Well, they are putting in a, anadult only swimming pool with a
(20:50):
swim up bar.
Tell me that's not the worstdecision that they've ever made
to have.
That's a terrible decision.
Yeah.
In a redneck place anyway, tohave that.
No, boy, no.
Mm-hmm.
You've got the city mm-hmm.
Mentality.
And then you got the redneckmm-hmm.
Country mentality all in oneplace.
A swim up bar.
Mm-hmm.
Not, not a good mix.
(21:11):
Mm-hmm.
Not a good mix at all.
Not what I would suggest to, no.
Brian and I have always bothloved roller coasters and rides.
Mm-hmm.
And, universal has this wholenew thing opening up the
dragons.
Yes.
I am fascinated.
Oh my God.
They fly over.
I know.
(21:31):
I am all about it.
And they breathe fire.
Yes.
I'm, I know.
So it's, what's it called?
Universal Epic Universe, maybe?
I don't know, something likethat.
But it's got five differentareas that are called portals.
Mm-hmm.
One of'em is a Harry Potter one.
What?
I know.
It's the magic of ministry.
Ministry of magic, whatever.
(21:52):
Y'all know what I'm talkingabout.
And, then there's one that's theHow to Train Your Dragon.
And there's real life sized, orI'm like, I'm all about it.
That was one of Dylan's likemm-hmm.
Favorite movies at one point.
Mm-hmm.
And we watched it.
I don't know.
Many times.
Right.
But, um,'cause Toothless isblack and like just qc.
Yes.
So Dylan wanted to call MoToothless Toothless for like a
(22:17):
month.
And like obviously Mo was notlistening to him.
No he was not.
Because I'm like, buddy, that'swhen he had his missing front
tooth.
Yeah.
And I'm like, look in themirror, hun.
Yeah, you're toothless.
You are toothless.
Um, it looks like an amazingthough.
It so it opens in May.
Mm-hmm.
Till Brian, I said next yearwe've gotta go.
Yeah.
I would love to see it.
(22:38):
I wonder what's like best theslowest week.
We gotta look that up.
Best, best week to go.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's do it.
It looks like fun though.
My sister turns, 50 this yearand I had told her a long time
ago when she turned 50 we'd goon a trip.
Well, here we are.
And so we're trying to figureout what we're gonna do.
Fun.
I know.
I can't wait.
She come with, is it gonna belike an international trip or is
(23:00):
it gonna be like a Florida tripor what are we talking?
So we.
Going back.
I think Vegas I think we havelanded on,'cause she's never
been out of the country.
Okay.
she's never been on a cruise.
The farthest south she's been isFlorida.
So I said, you know what themost bang for your buck is gonna
be if we do a cruise.
(23:21):
Mm-hmm.
You can go to different portsand see different things.
Um, so we found one that goes toMexico and The Bahamas.
So it'd be a little bit of tasteof both.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so I think that's what we'regonna do.
Fun.
We're still trying to narrow itdown, but Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm excited.
When, when, when is it?
September.
That's awesome.
(23:42):
But that's also hurricane.
It is, it is.
But you know, I like to live onthe edge.
My mom's going on to cruisingtoo.
And I was like, Ooh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Brian and I got married inOctober and went on a cruise
right after and yeah.
Hurricane season.
Yeah.
We, got married in September.
Mm-hmm.
But we didn't cruise.
We went to Aruba.
Yeah.
And we just had, was it fine?
It was amazing.
(24:03):
Yeah.
I'm just gonna wing it like I doeverything else pretty much.
you don't gamble, right?
No.
No.
Like if somebody gave me ahundred dollars and said, this
is only to gamble, I'd be like,okay.
And I'd do that, but like totake my money and into it.
Yeah.
I just don't like that.
Mm-hmm.
How about you?
I'm not a gambler.
Yeah.
No.
On our honeymoon.
Brandon used to be.
And so he went to the casino.
(24:25):
I went to take a nap, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Sounds so long.
Brand.
I went to go lay down.
Yeah.
Before we went.
Got ready for dinner.
Yeah.
And so he went to the casino andI walked in and he always said
like, I was bad luck in thecasino.
Mm-hmm.
I am just not the gambler.
And Yeah.
Just bored.
Um, and he was like, go, he was,he was up a lot.
(24:46):
Yeah.
And he was like, go, go gethere.
Go.
That's funny.
Um, but he won like our entiretrip back cover board on, on my
first day.
I know several people that do.
And like when you sign up andyou spend money in there, you
spend a certain amount, theystart giving you.
Free cruises to come back whereyou pay like the taxes or the
fees or whatever.
(25:06):
So you get another cruise for300 bucks.
Mm-hmm.
For two people.
So, I mean, or you know, giftcards or whatever.
So, I mean, there's a plus sideto it.
I just, yeah, but I mean, you'rereally paying for it.
'cause what?
Yeah.
Well, you're more than likely tolose.
Yes.
And so I just like my money.
I do too.
Have you seen Vegas vacationwith, Chevy Chase?
(25:28):
It's an old movie.
Well, so, you know, they, theygo to Vegas and they have all
the fancy, the bright lights orwhatever where they're like,
this is too rich for my blood.
Let's go.
And they find like a redneck onewhere they're like, playing Go
Fish and stuff like that.
That's up my alley, like theGolden Horseshoe.
Pretty much.
Pretty much.
And pretty much, um.
(25:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm not a gambler.
I'm not either, but, I just, Idon't feel, I don't think rush,
I don't like, I don't either.
I hate anxiety.
Yeah.
Like, you know what machine I dolike though.
Mm.
And I know this more from likearcades where you put the
quarter in and it like, pushesit out a little bit at like, I
could sit there for hours and dothat.
Yeah.
I like playing that like at.
Like Chuck E Cheese, Chuck eCheese, or, um, Dave and
(26:10):
Busters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that always sucks mein., it's real money I couldn't
do, or if there's something withskill needed, like if there's
logic, like I don't wanna dothat.
I just wanna put it in and seewhat falls.
I at Arcade love ski ball.
Oh yeah.
Great at it.
But, but you love it.
Yeah.
Okay.
I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
And then there's a dinosaurgame, but like, you like.
(26:33):
Pull the little thing in.
The ball goes up.
Mm-hmm.
And there's all dinosaurs thatit can go through.
Oh yeah.
I always get so many tickets onthat one.
That's the one, that's it.
Mm.
That's a good one.
Have to make a trip.
Go Dave and Busters.
Yeah.
And get us some Sweet Tarts orTootsie Rolls, whatever they
have at the ticket counter.
Dylan's got a ton of tickets ona card or?
Yes.
They don't see tickets anymore.
(26:53):
It's all on.
Oh, I know.
It kind of ruin some of the fun,doesn't it?
Because you don't see like thebig long, I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When the machine would break andit would just keep giving you
tickets and you just keptwinding them up.
We, oh, there was a place inCharlotte, I don't even know if
it's still open, but it was anarcade and it had go-karts and
stuff.
Uhhuh, celebration Station?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I don't know.
I'll shut up.
It's over in Pinevillesomewhere.
Yeah.
Okay.
Maybe that is it.
(27:13):
Yeah.
I don't know.
Dylan, was little, like fourmaybe.
And, um, his cousins had comedown to visit.
Mm-hmm.
So we went there and none of themachines were locked.
Oh.
Just take this whole roll,please.
It wasn't even like, it was justlike getting the tokens.
Oh God.
Like you keep playing.
I didn't even care about thetickets.
It was just the tokens.
Yeah.
(27:33):
Some of them are so expensive.
Yes.
Have you gone to the I thinkthey've just, they, there's one
open now in Rock Hill, but theone that we went to was on the
way back from Morrisville.
'cause we were coming back froma lacrosse game and Parker, one
of Dylan's friends had abirthday party there as well.
But it's called a, a Bari Uhuh.
Um, but it is full of.
(27:54):
Old school, video games reallyconnect all 25 cents to play.
Oh.
Like you don't get tickets oranything?
It's just like fun.
Yeah.
It's just a fun thing.
Oh no, but that sounds like agreat time.
So, if you're under 21, you cango in before like five o'clock.
Okay.
Um, they don't serve food oranything, it's just drinks,
sodas.
Mm-hmm.
Water or alcohol.
Mm-hmm.
Um, after five it's adults only.
(28:15):
Okay.
But I feel like they're, theyput one in Rock Hill maybe.
That sounds like a lot of funthough.
Yeah.
25 cents.
like a game.
I like it.
Mm-hmm.
And then they also had an areathat you could just play old
school video games.
Like the OG Nintendo.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Oh man, that sounds like a Brianwould love that.
Mm-hmm.
We're gonna have to check thatout.
(28:36):
Yeah.
So that sounds like fun.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
yeah.
Cool.
do you want to continue?
Am I the A-hole?
Yes.
I'm dying for some updates onthis.
Okay.
Do we wanna do a little recap?
We should.
Okay, go ahead.
So I totally forgot what it wasabout.
It was a gay guy and his bestfriend and the gay guy had a
(28:56):
Chinese gay partner.
Yes.
And the sister was trying racistand a homophobe and trying to
steal the money because she haskids and Yes, the gay couple
does not have guilt.
Yes.
And it was their parent.
Both parents died and it wastheir inheritance.
But she said it was hers becauseshe had kids basically.
Right.
And the friend who made the am Ithe A-hole post wants to
(29:17):
publicly out her for what?
She, because she's a hippie.
Mm-hmm.
Well, she's like a on, she's atree hugger.
She's big in the community.
Yeah.
She's a tree hugger.
She is, yeah.
An awful person.
And one of the sisters flipsides.
So she's on his side now.
Right.
She initially wanted the kids tohave the money, but now, but now
once the lawyer got involved,she flipped.
Yes.
Okay.
update three, I think actions,consequences might finally be
(29:39):
hitting home.
She replied to my message withwhat a terrible thing to do to
me on election day.
Wait, that's the worst part ofall this.
I understand you care aboutHarry.
Nice.
But what you said isinappropriate and untrue.
Don't ever send me a messagelike this again.
Side note, she shared thatmessage with other people.
Yeah.
And it didn't hit the way shethought it was gonna hit.
(30:01):
Yep.
So now she's salty about it.
Yeah.
So, let's see.
Rachel, this is family money.
You don't have family, so itshould come to me.
That's so terrible.
Mm-hmm.
So Harry says, I do have family.
His name is Nathan, and we'vebeen together for 20 years.
Rachel.
Yeah, but when you die, he'll goback to Asia and spend the money
on his Asian family.
(30:23):
So it should come to me and myfamily.
Instead, entitlement check,homophobia check, racism check.
I've known her for 40 years andI've never heard her say
anything remotely like thisbefore.
And yes, she truly is a peaceloving tree hugging hippie.
That doesn't change the factthat I've also known her to
always feel entitled.
Perhaps she just doesn't realizeit because she usually gets what
(30:44):
she wants and people are oftenhappy to give it because she
generally is a lovely person.
But when this amount of money isat stake and she's told no, I
guess she just went into thedeath spiral.
Now she thinks she'll bepunishing me by forwarding the
message to Harry so that he'llrealize what a nasty person his
best friend is.
I can just imagine the smile onhis face when he reads it and
(31:05):
his response coming to me is,Ooh, you are awful.
And that's what I love aboutyou.
A I didn't respond to her anddon't intend to.
She knows where she stands withme now, and I have no interest
in dealing with her again.
Should she go down that roadagain though?
As the saying goes, I'll see youin court.
Hmm.
Update four.
This is the final update I feellike.
(31:28):
So that whole section is, youknow, in, the groups, like the
comment section isn't going howyou Yes, it would.
Yes.
So they delete.
Yes.
Rachel has crashed and burnedupdate four.
Oh, November 9th, sorry.
Yep.
And the other one was November7th, so this is just two days
later.
Mm-hmm.
Um, Rachel has crashed andburned as I suspected from the
start of the one thing shevalues more than money is her
(31:51):
reputation.
After forwarding my personalemail to a few mutual
acquaintances to show them hownasty I am, of course then it's
spread like wildfire.
Her children immediatelymessaged Terry and said they
were horrified by her actionsand the fact that she said she
was doing it for the family,they had no foreknowledge of
this and assured him theywouldn't let it happen.
(32:12):
They also know how entitledtheir mother can be.
And so they knew I would nevermake those accusations if it
wasn't true.
The one I'm closest to phoned meup to keep me up to date with
the fallout when questioned bydozens of people, if she really
was going to try to steal herbrother's money.
Rachel's prepared response was,no.
We had an agreement that if Ilooked after our parents, he
would leave me his inheritance.
(32:34):
He reneged on that agreement.
But Leave her the inheritance.
But why wouldn't he be able tospend his inheritance while he's
alive?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It's not like he's not, he's notgone anywhere.
He's still around, so whywouldn't he be able to spend his
inheritance because she's a babyB.
I understand that, but, butyeah.
But her logic, no.
Yeah.
(32:55):
There was a follow up question,but if he really is disabled and
about to become homeless, thenwhy wouldn't you just let him
have it anyway?
Realizing she was backed intoour corner.
There was only one way out.
Of course, I'm gonna give it tohim.
It was all just amisunderstanding.
And finally, who is this Jerry,and why is he accusing you of
being racist and homophobic?
(33:16):
She replied, yes, he's a friendof Harry's, but he's nasty and
mentally unstable.
He just concocted all of this asa part of his vendetta against
me.
So all done.
She publicly renounced her claimto Harry's money, and although
she's refuted the accusations ofbeing racist and homophobic, I
have no doubt they're gonnahaunt her to the grave.
And if a random bunch of peopleI'll never meet, and I believe
(33:38):
that some random guy on Facebookis nasty and mentally unstable,
then so be it.
I'll wear it with pride.
You should sue her fordefamation.
That's true.
Okay.
What are we on number five?
Yep.
Okay.
So two months have passed.
Yep.
My last post two months ago saidfinal update.
I thought the whole shit stormwas over.
I thought I had crushed Racheland her entitlement and that
(34:00):
Harry was free to live his lifein peace.
But apparently her entitlementis as.
Of such epic proportion, she'sgone in for another round.
It turns out that the B trollfrom H has been laying low while
she went to a financial advisorand has had a lawyer send Harry
a detailed account for the moneyhe owes her with a threat to
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sue.
If he doesn't, again, shedoesn't have a legal leg to
stand on.
You can't claim retrospectivelythat a person made a verbal
financial contract with you.
So it's not that I'm afraid forHarry financially, it's just
that I cannot comprehend this.
She audacity of it.
And I've never thought of thisbefore because I've never
considered anything that I didwas a burden in any way to me.
(34:44):
But this whole incident thatwe've gone through is a trigger
and it's a repressed grudge.
I've held against her for over30 years.
Okay, so now we got somebackstory.
Mm.
Give us a teeth.
Harry and I were roommates backin the nineties.
One day she turned up at thatdoor with her oldest child,
male, 16.
She had great news.
She, or more probably Mary,secured him a scholarship in a
(35:07):
private school that specializedin computer science.
Fantastic.
And how fortunate that it wasthe school that just happened to
be in the same city that Harryand I lived in and how that as
gay men, we now would get toexperience the great joy of
raising a child.
And then she swanned off on hermerry way with her younger
children to travel the countryand world.
(35:27):
I was only 24 years old workingnight shift as a nurse and now
caring for a teenager during histwo senior years of high school
as well.
Can they, send her an invoicefor back child support?
Right.
But I loved it.
He was an amazing teen.
I've been using that word sinceI watched Agatha.
He was very grown up for hisage, very responsible, low
(35:49):
maintenance, just like having anew younger roommate except I
was paying the bills.
Well, sharing half with Harry.
That's bull crap.
Okay, lemme stop.
Not my kid, not my nephew, butthe son of my best friend's
sister.
But I did it without a thought.
And even Loki knew I was doinghim a favor by giving him a
better chance of the future.
(36:09):
His mother could have.
At 18, he moved out with somefriends and I was so proud.
His school grades were so great.
He got a scholarship to acollege where he could further
his computer science career.
Okay.
The year after Teen graduated,Rachel turns up again with the
next oldest child, female.
16.
Great news.
She got a scholarship to an artscollege for her two senior
(36:29):
years.
So it was really just a carry onas usual.
Great time with Teen two me,never considering for a moment.
It was also a great expense.
She did really well at highschool, got into her dream gap
year working in Paris andBerlin.
Mm-hmm.
Now I've been triggered.
Rachel has gone to a lawyer andput this respective financial
claim for caring for a familymember against her brother.
(36:52):
It was her brother and I wholooked after her two children
for two years working our buttsoff to cover rent bills, food
and school expenses while shewas living off the social
security single mother benefitand their father's child
support.
I've looked up severalgovernment websites last weekend
and used the figures to createan Excel spreadsheet.
This is what you're saying?
Mm-hmm.
It costs$13,000 a year to raisea teenager.
(37:14):
I paid half, so that's$6,500.
I did that for four years, sothat's$26,000.
So as my update, I got a copy ofthe letter Rachel's lawyer sent
to Harry.
I then went to a lawyer myselftoday and got him to write a
letter using literally the exactsame words as she did to claim
$26,000 with a threat to sue.
Let me clap for him.
Mm-hmm.
If she doesn't pay, the lawyerwas absolutely stunned and said
(37:37):
something to the effect of, youknow, this is the most
ridiculous letter I've writtenin my entire career, and then
I'm going to have to charge youa thousand dollars for it.
Right.
I told'em it wasn't about themoney.
It was worth every cent for thesatisfaction of imagining the
look on her effing face when sheopened it.
I haven't told the children andnever will, as I would never
want them to think they were aburden on me in any way.
(37:57):
However, I'm sure now as adultsin their forties, they'd be
absolutely horrified to knowthat their mother was using
their child support money totravel the world while I raised
them just as horrified as theywere when they heard she was
bullying Harry for his money.
I do hope Rachel takes this asthe implied threat to go public
justice as I did last time,though.
Oh my God.
(38:18):
But you know what?
He needs to be one of ourbesties.
'cause like, I think so.
The buddy like the media.
Oh, I think so.
I think we would have a greattime.
I do too.
Can you come on the pod, Mr.
Guy?
Mm-hmm.
Jerry.
Jerry.
Mm-hmm.
We, we got Please, please comeon the pod.
We got a seat.
Just that's for you buddy.
Mm-hmm.
And I think I would triple lovehim because the petty.
(38:39):
Mm-hmm.
I feel like they're Britishbecause the way he spells things
like realized is spelleddifferent.
Don't have the z.
It has s Is that how they spellit there?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I didn't know that.
So.
Or European.
Okay.
So you know he is got an accentof some sort.
And number three, gay dudes areso fun.
Oh my gosh.
I know.
Um, okay.
Crazy pants.
(39:00):
That's a lot.
Mm-hmm.
To unpack Yeah.
That, to just drop that offwithout any support or
conversation or the audacity,Jerry, keep going with
everything you're doing.
Mm-hmm.
And multiply at times athousand.
Yeah.
I, I love the energy.
Yeah.
Yes.
I cannot wait for more.
Yes.
so we'll finish this, round nextweek.
(39:22):
Yeah.
with the last few, I think theremight have been a, a bonus one
that just came in.
Okay.
when I went to go pull these fortoday.
Okay.
it said bonus content.
Yeah.
So we have two, maybe three Yes.
For next week that we'll, thatwe'll have for next week.
Yeah.
Okay.
So Jerry, we love you.
Love you Jerry.
so if you are not a book readerYep.
(39:43):
This is your time to exit,please come back next week so
that we can finish up the am Ithe A-hole with Jerry and,
please, like, subscribe, tellyour friends to listen.
We love you.
We love you.
Bye.
All right.
Now bookies, we actually switchup.
as I put in the podcast lastweek, we had initially.
We're meant to read one book andit was not great because life is
too short for bad books.
(40:04):
We switch.
Yes.
so I had texted Meredith.
Yep.
And I was like, I can't do this.
I don't know if my book likingshave changed.
Mm-hmm.
Or if it was listening to thebook.
It was just horrible to hear.
Yeah, I agree.
I, I started it and I was thesame.
So I was happy to jump ship withthat line.
Awesome.
So, but we did do, if somethinghappens to me Yes.
That Alex Finley and we haveread Alex Finley before.
(40:27):
Mm-hmm.
actually just a couple weeksago.
Yep.
It was one of our books.
And I do really like thisauthor, so Yeah.
Same.
Let me get to my blurb allright, if something happens to
me by Alex Finley, RyanRichardson has spent five years
haunted by the night hisgirlfriend Ally was taken,
leaving him under suspiciondespite no charges.
(40:48):
Now, as a law student in Italy,his past resurfaces when Ally's
car is found submerged in hishometown with two dead men.
In a cryptic note in herhandwriting, when Ryan spots the
man who has tormented hisdreams, he embarks on a
dangerous search for the truthacross Europe, unaware that a
young Kansas deputy and aPhiladelphia mob may hold the
(41:08):
key to unraveling the mystery inthis twist filled thriller by
Alex Finley.
So when we were messaging theother day trying to coordinate,
our recording this week, I waslike, I can't wait to talk to
you about this book because thepremise of this book was so
exciting and parts of this bookI was so into, but then I would
just totally zone out.
(41:29):
Okay.
And some of it I think, Some ofthe storyline was so slow.
Mm-hmm.
and kept getting into the bookand then like I Yeah.
Pulled back.
Yeah.
So I agree 100% and I don't knowif it was, I, I wonder if we
would've read it, if it would'vehad a different, I think if it
would entice you in a differentway.
So you have to pay attentionwhen you're physically reading.
Right.
Can't just zone multitask andYeah.
Yeah.
Do whatever.
so probably, yeah.
(41:50):
but it's not your typical, Ifeel Alex Finley.
I.
Speed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Of a book, upholding yourattention and, and keeping you
mm-hmm.
Enticing, engaged.
Mm-hmm.
So, I agree with you a hundredpercent.
Yeah.
Okay.
I actually read it twice.
Okay.
Because I got lost, there was alot of name changes because of
(42:11):
the identity changes, fordifferent reasons.
I think another problem wasthere's too many characters
Yeah.
To keep track of.
Yes, yes.
There was a lot.
and there wasn't really much ofa distinction between them.
I mean, yeah.
So after I figured out theending and kind of what
happened, I went back and, andread it again.
And it made more sense thesecond time.
(42:31):
And I did it super fast.
Yeah.
But just to try to be like, oh,that's what that meant, you
know, kind of thing.
Mm-hmm.
No, I'm with you.
I, yeah.
Was the same way.
Okay.
Obviously spoiler just dospoilers every week.
So hopefully you read the book.
If you're not gonna read itagain, you can leave.
Why are you here?
I'm just kidding.
But, I don't want to spoil it.
Mm-hmm.
If anybody hasn't.
but here's the spoilers.
(42:52):
As soon as they revealed thatAnthony, which was the mobster
son, was bullied and it wasvideotaped, I knew that she was
either in witness protection,like, okay.
It immediately clicked to methat that was the daughter of
the accountant.
Okay.
because he said that she wasseen in the, mirror.
Yeah.
So I knew, but I didn't thinkthat they were trying to kill
(43:13):
her because the.
Accountant helped cover it up.
Right.
I thought that they were goingafter her, and then I was like,
well, maybe I misheard it.
Yeah.
So I kind of misheard it, andthat was her friend that was in
the room laughing.
But, so the first time Ilistened to it, I didn't get any
of the pieces that all thepeople were dying.
I did not all, all the kids.
(43:34):
Mm-hmm.
I did not get the why.
I was like, what?
What's the connection?
Like, is this just like filler?
Is this even important to know?
and again, maybe half listening,I don't know.
But, but yeah, I was thrown fora loop with that, and I didn't
put it together though, so.
Okay.
Proud of you for that.
Yeah.
So I mean, immediately I'm like,okay, well this has to be like a
big piece of the puzzle.
(43:55):
Yeah.
And the accountant was likesuper, like sketched out having
to work for this guy because thewife's debt to him and whatever.
So it all came together for methere.
Yeah.
Okay.
I thought it was very.
Well thought of the accountantto steal all the money.
I know, I know.
But I guess it's an accountant,right?
Like Right.
And that's, I guess, too, whenyou're dealing with that kind of
(44:17):
people you Yeah.
Know to protect yourself,they're, they're not gonna the
cops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And how about for him to havedoubled the money?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And the brother, how about thebrother?
Like, so the gangster's brother.
The gangster's brother was like,how much money do you have left,
I guess, thinking he would havenothing left less.
Right.
(44:37):
And he's basically said hedoubled what he had and he said,
wow, okay, well send 15 Right.
To my brother, send 5 millionGreat to me.
Yeah.
Or I said a thousand.
Yeah.
Numbers are tough, but yeah, sohe was trying to skim off the
top of his brother.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, I mean, that's thelifestyle, right?
Then the accountant.
(44:58):
Having been in the military wasnot like your geeky accountant.
Right.
And I'm like trying to picturethis as a movie.
Right.
And I don't know if like you dothis, when I'm listening to a
book is I see it in my head tooas a movie.
Right.
Yeah.
And then like, I'm like castingpeople as roles, but even when I
read mm-hmm.
And I saw this, I don't know ifit was on, um, Facebook or
TikTok, that some people likedon't hear it when they're
(45:21):
reading.
Like when I read something, likeI hear it, I do too, because I
mispronounce words and I just gowith it.
But like, some people don't.
And I was like, that'sinteresting.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, well, is thatpart of the a DD like, or the,
you know what I mean?
Like Yeah.
Where you have to like, filleverything, all the, all the
senses need to be mm-hmm.
(45:41):
Engaged.
Maybe.
Isn't that weird?
Mm-hmm.
I thought that was so strange.
I couldn't imagine just readingit and not hearing anything.
What's going on in your headthen?
Oh my God.
See?
Right.
See, if I wasn't.
Seeing that and hearing it, Iwould have other things going on
that weren't related to thebook, then I wouldn't pay
attention at all.
So I'm like reading book.
Right.
Uhhuh, I'm hearing it in myhead.
(46:03):
Mm-hmm.
And then I'm picturing uhhuh mythings.
Yeah.
And, and I'm like, do peoplehave such a quiet brain?
Mm-hmm.
But they don't do that.
Right.
Y'all, if you, if you do that,if you don't have everything
going on right.
When you're reading, please letus know.
I'm so fascinated.
I am too.
I wanna know, is your mind justdark and quiet at that time?
Do do you have any moments ofdark and quiet?
(46:25):
I can't imagine because I don't,never, never.
I I'm never constantly likemm-hmm.
All over the place.
Oh yeah.
All over the place.
So let us know.
Let us know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
That's crazy.
I was so bummed at the end ofthe book, um, Chaz.
Yeah.
Who was like one of thehenchmen.
Yep.
(46:45):
And he, he was such a softie.
Yeah.
And then he got mur whacked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that.
I was like, Aw.
I know.
He was just like such a greatgrandfather.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
Showing up at the, the play, theplay for the grandson.
Yeah.
I know.
And I was like, Aw.
That was sad.
It was sad How did you feelthough about, Allison slash
(47:08):
whatever her names were?
Let me rephrase.
Mm-hmm.
I liked that the author didn'tput her back together with, our
dude.
Yeah.
I mean, so many times it's like.
They try to force stuff likethat.
Mm-hmm.
And I'm glad that she was like,you've already found somebody.
Yeah.
Kinda.
But I was bumed for him becausethat was such a huge piece of
his life and I believe that hestill wanted her, but I, I
(47:29):
agree.
But I think if he would've hadher, it wouldn't have been like
it was, I, I a hundred percentpercent agree, but it just kind
of like mm-hmm.
She didn't even give him achance.
So I was like, he just did allof this to find you and Yeah.
And how did the letter stay inone piece?
I don't know.
'cause it was in the water.
Yeah.
So that didn't make any sense tome.
Zero sense.
We just got lucky.
Yeah.
Make zero sense FBI agent thatlike double crossed.
(47:54):
Oh yeah.
I was so happy when Poppypunched her in the face.
I know.
I was like, you go girl.
I thought that was the cutestname too.
I love that name.
I love it.
I love it.
I love that name.
That's what Jackson calls mysister Bobby.
Yeah.
did you like the book?
I, I did.
Again, it, it was slow at somepoints.
Yeah.
But I loved the premise of it.
(48:14):
Yeah.
I thought it was a cool, itwould make a cool movie.
Yeah.
because again, I saw the moviein my head.
You saw it in your head, but,yeah.
I mean, I liked it.
Yeah.
Well enough.
I, I just, it could have moved alittle faster.
Yeah.
and there was too many peoplefor me to keep track of
listening to it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I a hundred percent agree.
So I would give it like a seven.
Same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's very, very cool.
(48:35):
I'm fascinated with witnessprotection stuff, but it just,
some parts of it just didn'tclick for me.
Mm-hmm.
It was hard for me to stayengaged.
Yeah.
And oh, just, I know Ally, um,kicking the two boys butts that
were bullying.
Oh yeah.
That was great.
Oh, you go ally.
I know, I know.
That was great.
That was great.
all right, so, our next bookthat we're gonna be reading is
just another Missing Person byJillian McAllister.
(48:57):
And we have read her books aswell.
Yes.
And we like her.
Yes.
A lot.
So I'm excited for this book.
Don't disappoint me, Jillian.
Ooh.
All right.
So I'm gonna read the.
Blurb for this one.
Okay.
22-year-old Olivia has beenmissing for one day and
counting.
She was last seen on CCTVentering a dead end alley and
not coming back out again.
(49:18):
Julia, the detective heading upthe search for Olivia thinks she
knows what to expect, adesperate family, a ticking
clock, and long hours away fromher husband and daughter, but
she has no idea just how closeto home this case is going to
get because the criminal at theheart of the disappearance has
something she never expected.
His weapon isn't a gun or aknife.
It's a secret.
Her worst one and her family'ssafety depends on one thing.
(49:41):
Julia must not find out whathappened to Olivia and must
frame someone else for hermurder.
If you find her, you'll loseeverything.
What would you do?
This clever and endlesslysurprising thriller is laced
with a smart look at family andmotherhood and cements Jillian
McAllister as a major talent inthe world of suspense and master
creating ethical dilemmas thatshow just how murky the
(50:01):
distinction between right andwrong can be.
It sounds good.
It does.
It sounds like a cool movie.
That, just kidding.
I was gonna say plot.
Yeah, it does.
It really does.
But yes, a movie too.
Yeah., I'm excited for that one'cause we, we've had luck with
her, so hopefully this one willbe a good one too.
Yeah.
So already downloaded it.
Whoop, whoop, whoop.
Alright, well I think that wrapsit up for today.
(50:23):
It does.
Thank you all.
Thank you.
We love you.
We love you.
Bye.
Bye.
that wraps up another episodeof, this is My Circus.
If you survive this episode andsomehow still like us, make sure
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more Until next time, keep thedrink strong.
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