Hosts: Stefanie Navarro & Meredith Hill
Run Time: ~50 min
Theme: Conspiracy theories, Disney deep dives, personality quizzes, true crime book club, and a jaw-dropping āAm I the A-hole?ā with a shocking twist.
š§ In This Episode:
Buckle up, yāall. Weāve got dragon skulls in Romania, secret worlds under the North Pole, and Disney characters with psychological diagnoses. Stefanie and Meredith dive into internet rabbit holes (looking at you, TikTok), share an ADHD-friendly productivity tool, and test each other with a revealing personality quiz involving otters and sloths. Then itās time for the ultimate AITA bombshell that left everyone speechlessāplus, a book club pick that finally delivered.
š¬ Topics Covered:
š Dragons Are Real (Probably):
A ādragon skullā discovered in a Romanian well? TikTok theories? Creatures in caves? Stefanie takes us down the conspiracy spiralāAdmiral Byrd, Hollow Earth, and all.
š§ Goblin Tools for ADHD Brains:
An online tool that turns āclean your roomā into bite-sized tasksāwith chili peppers and magic wands. Game changer for list-makers and distracted girlies.
š¾ Personality Quiz with a Twist:
If you were an animalā¦ what would that reveal about how the world sees you (and how you see yourself)? Things get deep, funny, and very on-brand.
š° Disney Princesses & Diagnoses:
Theorists say each Disney character represents a psychological disorderāfrom Rapunzel's PTSD to Arielās hoarding tendencies. Is it a stretchā¦ or does it actually check out?
š§ AITA: The Gay Bookstore, The Slur, and the Secret Son:
A 19-year-old employee crosses a lineā¦ then drops a bombshell that changes everything. Letās just sayāthis oneās got plot twists worthy of a Netflix miniseries.
š Book Club: Lake of the Lost Girls by Katherine Greene
ā A dual-timeline thriller that actually lived up to the hype
ā Complex sisterhood, dark family secrets, and a body hidden shockingly close to home
ā The girls rate it a solid 9/10āfinally, a win!
š Next Weekās Read:
The Marsh Kingās Daughter by Karen Dionne ā an abduction, survivalist father, and one daughter hunting him down in the marsh. Letās go.
š§ Quote of the Week:
āI try to put out food and lazy.ā ā Stefanie, proudly identifying as a sloth
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šŖ Until next time, keep the TikTok theories wild, the books twisty, and the kids only mildly feral.
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(00:00):
Welcome to, this is my circus,the podcast where we embrace the
chaos and keep it real aboutparenting, pop culture, true
crime, and the books we can'tput down because let's be
honest, life is one big circusand we're just trying to survive
with caffeine, sarcasm, and alittle true crime obsession.
So if you love unfilteredconversation, questionable
parenting hacks, and deep divesinto the things that keep us up
(00:21):
at night, you're in the rightplace.
Buckle up, grab your popcorn,and let's get into the chaos.
Stefanie (00:27):
I'm Stephanie.
Meredith (00:28):
I'm Meredith.
Stefanie (00:29):
And welcome to This is my circus and Meredith is not
here.
We are zooming today.
Meredith (00:35):
Yep.
We are zooming today.
I am at the beach
Stefanie (00:40):
Lucky dog.
Meredith (00:40):
I'm sitting on my balcony right now and, just came
in and had some supper and justenjoying, some away time.
Yeah.
So it's nice.
Stefanie (00:50):
Nice.
Well,
Meredith (00:52):
Yeah, I worked yesterday, so it was tough to
sit here and know I was righthere and not be able to, Enjoy
the sun, but well at, at, atleast
Stefanie (01:00):
the view is nice.
Meredith (01:01):
Great.
The view is nice.
so it's, we're at Myrtle.
Myrtle, dirty Myrtle.
Whoops.
I dropped you.
I caught you.
I gotcha.
yeah, so we're like north.
There's not, it's not like theparty area or anything, so
that's really good.
Jackson brought a friend and,you know, they're doing their
thing.
is Dylan at the beach?
Stefanie (01:21):
No, he, is actually miniature golfing with Ruthie
right now.
Meredith (01:24):
I thought that he was going to the beach this week
with Tyler.
Stefanie (01:26):
No, no, no.
That's like the end of may be,and June.
Meredith (01:30):
And that's with Reagan
Stefanie (01:31):
actually.
Meredith (01:32):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I totally messed that up.
How are you?
Stefanie (01:37):
Good, good.
How was Easter?
Meredith (01:38):
Well, you saw my Easter basket that I made for
Jackson, so, it was fine.
It was, it was fine.
So I ended up giving him MissCrocs early.
That he had wanted.
So I didn't make the do theears.
but I didn't have time.
So I was house, not housesitting.
I was dog sitting on Saturday,so I had to go back and forth
and let them out a few times.
(02:00):
The same time I was doing that,I was helping a friend at a
wedding.
Mm-hmm.
and King's Mountain with herphotography stuff.
So I was doing that plus tryingto just mentally get myself
together with what I needed topack.
Yeah.
so I stopped at a, dollar Tree,family Dollar or something and
just grabbed some of all thecandies.
I know Jackson liked and threw'em in the bag and he was just
(02:23):
fine with it.
Stefanie (02:25):
Well, you
Meredith (02:25):
know, yeah.
He was fine.
So we went to church thatmorning, which was nice.
We hadn't been to church in along time, and actually one of
the ladies there who I neverwould have expected said, I see
you have a podcast.
I've watched some of the clipssometime.
So Charlene, if you'relistening, Hey girl.
But it was, I never would haveexpected out of all the people
(02:47):
there to have said something.
So, um, that was, that wasfunny.
That was great.
Stefanie (02:52):
You're famous.
Meredith (02:53):
Well, sure.
but it, it was nice to go tochurch and do all that.
So then we came home, threw ourstuff in the car and we left.
Stefanie (03:01):
Nice.
Meredith (03:01):
And there was zero traffic yesterday.
Really?
I was expecting there to be justlike all kinds of jam traffic
jams and whatever.
We did not stop one time we gotin the car and we got here like
right at three and a half hours.
Mm-hmm.
Um, no, no issues at all.
Okay.
I was like, thank you.
Yes.
That's nice.
(03:21):
Uhhuh doesn't happen often, sowhen it does, I'll take it.
Stefanie (03:24):
Yeah, for sure.
Meredith (03:25):
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (03:26):
Um, well we, I had texted you, Dylan had to get his
phone.
Switched over, fixed, whatever.
so we were at T-Mobile store andDylan, I was on, Amazon.
'cause we were sitting therewaiting for all the data to
transfer over to the other phoneand, I saw a cooler backpack on
Amazon and I was like, Dylan,would you use that?
(03:46):
Like when you go fishing or,because he goes fishing a lot
with his friends and he's like,yeah, actually I would.
That's really cool.
And I was like, add to cart,right?
And so that is what his basket,actually was.
That's cute
Meredith (03:58):
though.
That's a cute idea.
And actually probably not evenadd to cart, but buy now.
Stefanie (04:03):
Well it was like, oh, I wanted to make sure like the
location address was right and,'cause there's two dials and
different locations in there,
Meredith (04:09):
nice.
Stefanie (04:10):
Yeah, so he, he liked his stuff and he was happy.
Ruthie was happy.
So
Meredith (04:15):
I'll say she was, 'cause we know girls shopping
for girls is not something we'reused to.
So.
She liked her basket.
Stefanie (04:21):
Yeah.
Um, Lowe's came in clutchbecause one of her favorite
colors is purple.
So I was looking for a purpleStanley and everywhere was sold
out of like purple and Lowe'shad a purple.
Meredith (04:33):
I'll have to tell Brian
Stefanie (04:35):
I walked around aimlessly like looking for it
and it was right by theregister.
Oh.
But I went around the entirestore.
Meredith (04:42):
What day were you there?
Stefanie (04:43):
Saturday.
Meredith (04:45):
Oh.
So lemme tell you this, lemmemake sure this door is shut, I
don't know why, because Brian'sgonna listen anyway.
Okay.
So, as I said, I was helpingAshley at the wedding with the
photography stuff, right?
That's been on the calendar fora while.
That was not a surprise, thatwas not new information.
also for a couple weeks, Brianknew I was helping this lady
(05:07):
with her dog, right?
Mm-hmm.
And how crazy that was gonna be,and the packing, like it was a
lot.
I probably shouldn't have triedto take on all of that at one
time, but I made it through.
So Friday night, Brian's like,they're offering, you know, if
anybody wants to come in to workat Lowe's tomorrow on Saturday,
I was like, well sure.
Go thinking.
(05:28):
He would know I needed him home.
Oh.
And here's, I was like, why isthat such a big deal?
Here's the other thing, youknow, Jackson and Brian are
cutting yard.
Mm.
And they had told'em they weregonna be there at a specific
time, or I had relayed themessage to the people saying
that they would be there at aspecific time.
Well, Brian wasn't coming hometill like three.
He worked like seven to three orsomething.
(05:49):
They were supposed to cut yardsat noon.
And I was like.
I'll just put it in my car.
So I threw all of it in my carand we went, but then backing
out of the garage,'cause I wasin my feelings, I hit the golf
cart, little scratch on the sideof my car from the golf cart.
We get to the lady's house andshe had called me, like, as I
(06:09):
was backing into the golf cart,and she said, somebody, my
neighbor came and cut my grass.
so don't worry about cutting it,but if y'all wanna like get
these weeds in the back and youknow, do some other things.
I was like, okay, let me callyou back.
I just plowed the golf cartover.
So she was like, okay.
So we get there and she, she hadsent me a picture of what weed
she wanted down.
So I'm weed eating and all of asudden the weed eater runs outta
(06:30):
stream.
And I've already got so much inmy freaking head that I've tried
to, you know, it's just those,those days.
Stefanie (06:37):
Yeah.
And that would've been the pointwhere I start crying.
Because I'm a crier.
Meredith (06:41):
Yeah.
So I actually, I.
When I, I hit the golf cart, Iwas driving obviously, and it
was on the passenger side, and Igot out and I was not gonna pull
my car up again'cause I didn'twant it to scratch more.
I was like, let me just pull thegolf cart away.
Yeah.
To avoid it.
But I just sat on the golf cartfor a second, just like closing
my eyes and try to get myselftogether.
(07:03):
He said, mom, are you good?
And I was like, just gimme asecond.
No.
So yeah, it was, and then like Isaid, that was a like noon.
I had to leave at one to get toKing's Mountain.
It was just, you know, thosetiktoks you see of like, I told
my husband we're having 80people over and he's out here
like blowing out the attic orsomething random.
(07:23):
What they do.
Yeah.
What they do.
But it all got done andeverything is good.
And I am sandy and salty.
So
Stefanie (07:30):
it's all good now.
Yeah.
Meredith (07:31):
Yes, absolutely.
This yellow is making me lookreally tan, isn't it?
Stefanie (07:36):
It is.
And it matches your hat.
It does Me, you, my
Meredith (07:41):
baby suit because I'm going back in the hot tub.
Sorry I'm all over the placetoday.
No,
Stefanie (07:49):
it's all good.
You're on vacation, you'reallowed to be.
Meredith (07:51):
Yeah, I guess
Stefanie (07:53):
well, I found a really cool online tool for A DHD.
Okay.
And I know that we are bothsuper flighty it is called
goblin tools.
Okay.
So it is this site and you pullit up and you type in whatever
the task is that you wanna do.
most people with a DHD, and I'mvery much this s way, needs
(08:14):
everything broken down intominute steps, you know, like
mm-hmm.
And I like to be able to checkthings off, to see that I'm
making progress.
Yes.
So even if it's like clean myoffice and I put in, clean my
office and reorganize books.
Yeah.
And it will ask you how brokendown do you want it?
And you use like these littlechili peppers and it's one to
(08:35):
five chili peppers of how brokendown you need it.
Okay.
And then you hit the littlemagic wand and it breaks it down
into minute steps.
And then you can either use thewebsite and like check off as
you're going or you can print itoff and cross it off or
whatever.
Meredith (08:51):
Yes.
Stefanie (08:52):
But it is super cool.
Meredith (08:54):
That sounds like it's really handy and I a hundred
percent get it.
I am a list maker to my core.
Stefanie (09:01):
Yeah.
Meredith (09:02):
For satisfaction of making progress.
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (09:05):
Marking
Meredith (09:05):
something off, showing that I've been productive.
Stefanie (09:08):
I'm making sure I don't forget something.
Meredith (09:10):
No, absolutely none of that I wonder if it's an app or
is it, you said it's just, it'sthe website.
Stefanie (09:16):
I'm not sure.
I had seen it on I think TikTokor somewhere, somebody had like
shown them using it and I waslike, that is so freaking cool.
So I went in there Yeah.
To test it and was like, clean.
I need to clean my office andreorganize my books on my
bookshelf.
And it was like, step one, cleanoff the top of your bookshelf
and dust it.
Step two, take off all of yourbooks and rearrange by
(09:38):
alphabetical order.
Um, if you don't likealphabetical order, you can do
it by author right.
it gave you different ideas toorganize and then it's like,
step three, uh, put all booksback on.
Oh, dust off all shelves whilebooks are off.
Step four.
I like it.
Yeah.
So, and then it was like, cleanoff your desk, you know, use
cleaning product to wipeeverything down.
(09:58):
Any papers you don't needthrowing the trucks.
Yeah.
Meredith (10:02):
So.
Oh, that's good.
And you know what, with thattoo, it helps you stay locked
in, into what you're doing.
Right?
Because I am the queen of, oh,I'm gonna clean out my closet.
Oh, I wonder if this dress stillfits.
This will look good on vacation.
Let me go plan a cruise.
I mean, random and, yeah,exactly.
Yes.
Um, nice.
Goblin dot.
(10:23):
What tools?
Goblin tools.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (10:26):
So really cool.
I was pleasantly surprised bythat little feature.
Yeah.
And I'm sure like chat GPT orwhatever all would also do that
for you.
But I just like the little chilipeppers and the little magic
wand.
Meredith (10:39):
Yes, absolutely.
I have been using the heck outof chat, GBT lately.
I've needed some help writingsome things, and I'm like, can
you make this sound moreprofessional?
Can you make this sound?
More, empathetic or whatever.
I'm loving it.
I'm all about it.
Stefanie (10:54):
Yeah.
I I am a avid chat GBT user forall the things,
Meredith (10:59):
all the things.
Don't know how we live withoutit.
Stefanie (11:01):
Well, do you wanna have a little fun?
Meredith (11:03):
Of course.
Stefanie (11:04):
It's a personality test.
So I'm gonna give you threequestions
Meredith (11:07):
Okay.
Stefanie (11:08):
And I'll tell you mine after we're done.
Okay.
So if you can be any animal inthe world, what would it be and
why?
And just think about this,
Meredith (11:17):
what would it be and why?
Mm-hmm.
Did you come up with an answerPretty quickly because I'm like
struggling.
Stefanie (11:23):
I didn't at first.
but it, it eventually, like Ithought of something'cause I was
like, oh, well,
Meredith (11:28):
yeah.
So I'm thinking, like adomesticated cat.
Stefanie (11:32):
Okay.
And why?
Meredith (11:35):
Because they really don't have to do much of
anything.
And they're cute and adorableand everybody loves them.
Like, if you like cats, you likecats.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't have a job.
Stefanie (11:48):
So I had chosen dogs.
Meredith (11:50):
I was gonna choose a
Stefanie (11:51):
dog, but I was like, well, and I was like, well, dogs
are loyal and they like tocuddle and you know, your
companion is like what I wasthinking for, you know, like,
they're, they're, they'reloving.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if, if that animal becameextinct, what would your next
animal be that you would be.
And why?
Meredith (12:11):
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, I'm trying to think.
Practically not like,'causethey're just cute and fluffy.
maybe like, maybe like a lion.
Stefanie (12:20):
Okay.
Why?
Meredith (12:21):
Because they are powerful and respected and,
which is kinda a lot of theopposite stuff of my first
animal.
But they're the, top of the foodchain, you know what I mean?
Like, they're, they're just,they're them.
Stefanie (12:38):
I chose, I chose an otter.
Meredith (12:42):
They're, I mean, yeah, they're adorable.
Stefanie (12:44):
They're small and they're fun, and they get into a
lot of trouble.
Meredith (12:47):
Yeah.
That, that's very true.
That's very true.
That's you.
That is you.
Is that what this is supposed toprove?
Stefanie (12:55):
So, number three.
So if those animals wereextinct, what would you choose?
Meredith (13:00):
I would choose like a big gorilla.
I cannot wait to hear whatthese,
Stefanie (13:10):
why do you want to be a big,
Meredith (13:13):
Because they have a lot of human traits, human
capabilities, like they gotfingers and a thumb.
They can do things, they cancommunicate.
again, I think they're, they're,they're respected.
They're big and, you know,powerful.
They're at the, near the top ofthe food chain.
They're not really aggressive,but don't provoke.
Okay.
what'd you choose?
(13:33):
A sloth?
Stefanie (13:38):
Because all they have to do is eat and chill all day,
and they have lasted sinceprehistoric time.
Meredith (13:43):
That's a great, great answer.
That's a great answer.
It's not, it's not because.
What did we, what did, what didwe just reveal about ourselves
with this?
Stefanie (13:55):
So the first question for the first animal that you
chose, is how you want the worldto perceive you.
So like, mine was dog and it'slike loyal companion.
Okay, cuddly.
Meredith (14:06):
I said cat.
'cause they were lazy and cuteand cuddly.
Stefanie (14:09):
Okay, so the second is how the world actually perceives
you.
Meredith (14:15):
Okay.
The lion And what did you have?
The the otter and playful.
Yeah, I see it.
I am powerful.
And the top of the food chain,
Stefanie (14:25):
I'm
Meredith (14:25):
just like pretty much
Stefanie (14:29):
in circles.
Um, and then the third is whatyou really are directly
represents you and what you tryto put out in the world.
So I try to put out food andlazy.
Meredith (14:47):
I try to put out human capabilities.
It's better than a slough.
Well, it's been around for awhile.
It's not going anywhere.
See, this is hard.
This is a very hard thingbecause we're both animal
lovers.
Like I could have said athousand animals.
Like I had a very hard time justrandomly picking an animal.
Stefanie (15:08):
You know what is funny though?
Isn't neither of us pickedraccoon?
Meredith (15:11):
No, no.
Trash pan is for us.
We both love them so much.
Stefanie (15:17):
So when you said sloth, you're like, oh yeah.
And I'm like, no, that's notgood.
Meredith (15:23):
That's funny though.
That is funny.
I like that little quiz.
I'm gonna have to add Jackson.
I'm gonna record it.
Yeah.
Oh,
Stefanie (15:30):
well.
I'm
Meredith (15:30):
Dylan.
Yeah, I like that.
That's great.
Stefanie (15:33):
I was like, oh, well, that's insightful.
Meredith (15:37):
I thought you were gonna say, like, after I said
it, I was like, oh crap.
Is one of those like your spouseor something like what you're
looking for to spouse?
Stefanie (15:45):
No, it's just how the world perceives you.
Meredith (15:48):
Okay, good.
Nothing to do with them.
Just me like it.
Stefanie (15:50):
Well along those lines, have you heard this?
And I don't know, I guess it wasa real study, but, the Disney
princesses, yeah.
They're all supposed torepresent some kind of disorder.
Okay.
Have you ever heard of this?
No.
Okay.
So it, um, and I'll link it inour show notes, but from the
west, uh, west Georgia wellnesscenter.com, they have a whole
(16:15):
article on it and it like breaksdown each character.
So I was like, so.
Confused and then like, it allmade so much sense once I
thought about all of thesedisorders that they connect to
these characters.
Meredith (16:30):
Okay.
So nothing is popping in my headexcept for sleeping beauty with
narcolepsy.
Stefanie (16:35):
Okay, so Rapunzel.
Okay.
She is supposed to representpost-traumatic stress disorder
due to her long captivity in theisolated tower.
Her anxiety and jumpiness whenexposed to new experiences can
reflect trauma related responsesas she navigates trust issues
and profound fear of theunknown.
Meredith (16:56):
So do we, is this really, like, was this the
intention when they createdthese or is that just what we're
picking apart now?
Do think it
Stefanie (17:04):
doesn't say, it just says that there was, I guess a
bunch of psychiatrists analyzedthe characters.
Okay.
Meredith (17:12):
I mean, that makes sense for Rapunzel.
Stefanie (17:14):
All right.
Donald Duck.
Intermittent explosive disorder.
Meredith (17:17):
Yes.
Stefanie (17:19):
Yes.
he's a hothead by nature with ashort fuse and he is become
iconic for that.
His tendency to blow up overminor irritations demonstrates
the sudden intense outburstsoften associated with IED.
So I know lots of people thatcould be diagnosed with that.
Meredith (17:37):
Yeah, absolutely.
Stefanie (17:39):
I didn't even know that that was a legit,
diagnosis.
What's
Meredith (17:42):
IED do?
Is that the explosive disorder?
Stefanie (17:45):
Intermittent explosive disorder.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Alright.
Dumbo social anxiety.
Meredith (17:52):
You know, I don't think I've ever seen Dumbo.
Really?
I don't think so.
Ears, poof.
Aw.
I know.
Tell me about him though.
Okay.
Why is social anxiety
Stefanie (18:01):
says dumbo's experience in Disney's movie
embodies traits akin to socialanxiety disorder, ridiculed for
his oversized ears and leftfeeling like he doesn't belong.
Dumbo's hesitance to engage withothers can reflect profound
fears of judgment and rejection.
Poor little gong.
I know.
Simba is also post-traumaticstress Uhhuh.
(18:24):
obviously he witnessed hisfather being off by his uncle.
Meredith (18:32):
Lots
Stefanie (18:33):
of lots
Meredith (18:33):
of trauma there for some
Stefanie (18:34):
of, so he grapples with intrusive memories and
overwhelming feelings of guiltand shame.
All right.
So Tigger from Winnie the Pooh.
Mm-hmm.
A DHD.
Meredith (18:45):
Oh, a hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
Stefanie (18:49):
Do you know that that was my favorite character, like
forever?
Meredith (18:52):
Was it really that track?
Stefanie (18:57):
I had a huge, cardboard like cutout of Tigger
on my wall, like as a teenager.
Did you?
Meredith (19:03):
my favorite was the Tasmanian Devil.
I get that.
And like my friends would go onvacation and bring me key chains
of it and stuff.
Mm-hmm.
So yeah.
Wow.
We are special, special people.
It tracks just like our animals.
A hundred percent.
Stefanie (19:22):
Elsa and her sister Anna represents, could represent
schizophrenia.
Like two dueling personalities.
Yeah.
or Elsa also can, represent,major depressive disorder
because she locks herself away.
Meredith (19:39):
Yeah.
Have you ever read all thosetheories or heard all of those
about how they, they're reallyrelated to, is it Rapunzel?
Yeah.
Stefanie (19:46):
I love that.
It's like the whole Disney verseor whatever they call it.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Who El Alice?
Alice, schizophrenia.
Alice in Wonderland.
She's seen all sorts ofCaterpillar smokings and all
the,
Meredith (19:59):
all the things.
All the things.
She gets really small or is itdrug use Hallucinogens.
Eat me.
Stefanie (20:08):
Yeah.
Meredith (20:09):
Drink
Stefanie (20:09):
me.
Yeah.
scar Antisocial Personalitydisorder.
I don't think that that meansreally any.
No, we're good with that.
Bell Stockholm Syndrome.
Meredith (20:24):
Absolutely.
Stefanie (20:25):
Yes.
Ariel.
OCD and DYS Phobia.
DYS phobia hoarding disorder.
'cause she hoards all of herhuman trinkets in that shit.
Her,
Meredith (20:37):
yes.
Her thinging hoppers and thethings.
Yep.
The thingama jigs.
Wow.
Stefanie (20:42):
This reminds me of is when all the judges, went
through the movie, the Grinchand like Yeah.
That we talked about.
Meredith (20:49):
Yes.
And all the conditions anddisorders and.
Body Morpheus and all the thingsthat Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I'm liking this though, so I,now that we've talked about it,
I'm thinking probably what itwas, was they, they're just
breaking down these things afterthe fact.
Probably not before, but some, Iremember reading something about
(21:09):
like, most of the traditionalDisney movies have trauma of
some kind.
Most of them are parentalkilling off the mom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bambi, all the other ones we'vementioned.
yeah.
That's no wonder this wholegeneration we're like, we are
what we grew up with.
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (21:28):
Between that
Meredith (21:29):
and the unrealistic, unrealistic expectations of a
library because of Bell'sLibrary that he, she has or
Stefanie (21:38):
animals helping you clean.
Meredith (21:40):
Right.
I told Brian no.
If we're ever so rich that wejust have a mammoth house.
I want a library.
Same, I mean like a cozy littlearea.
Moody vibes in there.
Comfy, cozy spot.
Stefanie (21:57):
Okay.
My library would be filled withbean bags, like those giant,
giant giant meat bags.
Okay, okay.
And like a big bay window.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then wall to wallbookshelves.
Meredith (22:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
All the bookshelves.
I'm thinking more, almost like aChase lounge kind of thing.
Me
Stefanie (22:23):
and a fireplace.
Meredith (22:24):
A hundred percent.
Absolutely.
Fireplace Oh, and the ladder tothe second stair.
Yes.
to the second level of books.
Stefanie (22:31):
Yes.
Well, especially for me'cause
Meredith (22:34):
So the ladder for the first level of books.
Stefanie (22:38):
To get to the, to the top level of the first
Meredith (22:41):
book case.
But yeah, all the, uh, I wouldlove to have one, love to have
library.
Stefanie (22:47):
I, uh, I would love to have a lot of things.
Yeah, there is, there is acompound for sale in like
Alabama or somewhere, and I justsaw it on Facebook and I guess
when they built it, it was$24million.
and it's on, it's on the marketfor 5 million right now and Wow.
But it has 27 acres of land.
The main house alone is like thesize of the White House.
(23:10):
Like legit has the same squarefootage as the White House.
And then there's two guest homesthat are bigger than any homes
that I've ever been in.
Wow.
Like physically have been in.
Meredith (23:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not that we stalked online,
Stefanie (23:25):
but two guest houses that are like 7,000 because
they're 6,000 square feet.
What?
And then there's like, you know,the pool, the tennis courts, you
know, all the things.
Right.
but yeah, so it was, they weresaying it was so crazy'cause it
cost 20, I think it was, theythink it was 24 million to
(23:46):
build, but they can't get 24million for it.
And it's on the market for 5million.
Meredith (23:53):
Somebody's getting a deal.
Sheesh.
Yeah.
That's quite a, that's quite acut.
Stefanie (24:00):
Yeah.
Very much so.
Meredith (24:02):
Would you live on a compound like that?
Um, with, with people you wouldchoose?
So like families you wouldchoose?
Stefanie (24:10):
Oh, I could choose.
Heck yeah.
Meredith (24:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That'd be fun.
Stefanie (24:15):
Yeah.
But if it was Okay, let's justmove on.
Okay,
Meredith (24:22):
moving on.
Moving on.
Did you organize your booksthough back there?
No.
Change'em, I was gonna say, Idon't really, I mean, I can't,
obviously can't really see.
What's going on back there, but
Stefanie (24:33):
no, no, I, I, I made the list.
I just didn't do it.
Meredith (24:39):
That's not the way that's supposed to work.
No, that's buddy.
Stefanie (24:44):
Hey, I know that we both kind of like the
supernatural stuff, so did yousee they found a dragon skull,
what they think is a dragonskull in a well in Romania?
No.
Yeah.
So this dude was digging a wellin Romania and like they have
the picture of like the aboveand it's like pretty deep.
(25:04):
It's like 20, 30 feet orwhatever in the ground.
And the skull head is like asbig as the dude.
Shut
Meredith (25:12):
up.
Stefanie (25:13):
Yeah.
Meredith (25:14):
Now I'm all for it.
Why are we thinking dragons arenot dinosaurs?
Stefanie (25:17):
I guess how like the snout is it's more like how
dragons are always firebreathable.
Yeah.
Just like the long snout like.
However it's shaped, it lookslike more dragony and I mean, go
Romania kind of checks, right?
I mean, I don't know.
I just, oh, hundred percent.
Yeah.
so yeah, they're thinkingdragons or that's what they're
(25:38):
calling it is a dragon skull,that's crazy.
It bananas.
But I'm here for, I mean, I'mlike, bring back the, listen,
you can keep the wooly mammoth.
Bring back the dragons.
I know.
I don't wanna just be sittinghere on a dragon fly by.
I wanna ride one.
I wanna be like, how to trainyour dragon?
Gimme a tooth.
Meredith (25:55):
It's sweet.
Like toothless.
Absolutely.
But
Stefanie (25:58):
like those mean angry ones I get, I get one of those
like dinghy ones that like flyinto a tree.
Meredith (26:05):
You'd get the.
Oh.
Stefanie (26:10):
So I went down the dragon rabbit hole on TikTok
after I saw that video.
Yeah.
And then, I guess not too longago, there's, and I don't know,
I mean, it could be whatever,not real, but it looked kind of
legit.
Um, but there was people inChina, like they went on this
tour in the mountains and stuff,and there's a video of what
(26:32):
looks like a dragon flying.
It doesn't look like a bird.
Any kind of bird, nothing likeit looks
Meredith (26:37):
like a dragon.
Stefanie (26:38):
Yeah.
And so now I've been, you know,I keep going, going, going,
going on TikTok and these likeweird creatures are coming out
of all of these caves and stuffin like different countries.
Like somebody needs to stoprolling the Jumanji dice, right.
We're good.
(26:59):
We're fine.
Yeah, we're
Meredith (27:00):
fine.
Stefanie (27:01):
Oh my goodness.
And like, these, like crazy hugeeggs are being found really, um,
in like these caves and stuff.
So either like dragons are stillaround or That is creepy, but
how cool is that?
I mean, yeah, like they escapedfrom like the secret world that
(27:23):
we're not supposed to knowabout.
Like
Meredith (27:26):
maybe they crossed over.
Maybe the caves are like theportals get there.
Stefanie (27:32):
Well.
On my Dragon journey down TikTokland, there was somebody had
made a post and then like I wentto chat JBT and said, Hey, can
you gimme all the information onthis?
Because I wanted to know likewhat was on the internet, but I
didn't wanna do the goog, so Idid the chat.
Did you say
Meredith (27:50):
that whole sentence into your chat?
GPT?
Hey, can you gimme this?
'cause I really don't wanna lookit up myself, but I really want
the information.
No, I said, can
Stefanie (27:57):
you find me all the info and put it in easy bullet
points for my podcast.
Um, Admiral Richard Bird and theSecrets of North Pole, because
North Pole, you know, you're notsupposed to fly over North Pole.
Yeah.
and there is satellite imageswhere it just looked like it's a
(28:18):
black hole.
The North Pole, like it is, likereally a black hole.
And so Admiral by, um, AdmiralRichard Byrd, he was a US Navy
officer, explorer, and anational hero claimed to be the
first to fly over the NorthPole.
In 1926, he led expeditions toAntarctica and was known for his
(28:40):
scientific contributions.
So his North Pole flight in1926, he flew his And sparked a
controversy because he says thathe found a massive opening and
it led to the hollow earthwithin, so this is where like
journey to the center of theearth, like that movie.
(29:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what he is saying.
He found like what?
Yeah.
So.
He says, it was like lush,green, you know, tropical type
of whatever.
you know, dinosaurs, I mean allof the, the creatures and the
things that they say are mm-hmm.
No longer whatever.
(29:23):
and then like he met the masterdown there and I guess like the
big man in charge, which is likethis, like giant alien ish
thing.
Okay.
Okay.
So, so supposedly his diary, butthey can't prove it is, so this
is like conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
Um, that he, like this diarysurvived and it accounts all of
(29:47):
his journey to the center of theearth.
That is crazy.
Right?
I, I don't know.
And he said that he he broughtout all of his stuff to the US
government and they were like,Nope, we're covering that up.
What year was that?
Did
Meredith (30:06):
it say
Stefanie (30:06):
1926?
Meredith (30:07):
2099 years ago?
Stefanie (30:12):
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Yeah.
Um, and there was like, he saidthat there was like UFO style
stuff down there, like flyingcrafts and like, it's like a
whole like world under, insideof our world.
Meredith (30:26):
I a hundred percent believe that if you go to, that
place in Nevada, where WillSmith went?
That you'll see all that stuff.
Where was that?
Do you, you know what I'mtalking about?
Area?
Area 51.
Stefanie (30:39):
51, yeah.
52.
51.
Meredith (30:43):
Isn't that bananas?
Yeah.
What's crazy too is I've neverheard anything about that.
Stefanie (30:51):
Yeah, but there's like legit satellite images.
Yeah.
That just show like a blackhole, black hole.
I don't know.
Meredith (30:59):
Santa Claus don't live there.
No.
It's a black hole.
No, no.
That's crazy.
All this stuff that couldpossibly be real, but sometimes
there's proof of it being real.
It's crazy scary.
Stefanie (31:14):
Listen, I told you that I believe in all of the
things, these things don't justpop up from
Meredith (31:19):
nowhere.
Right.
What gets me is all the randomanimals that'll wash up on shore
Stefanie (31:25):
freaks me out.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
And then the mermaid tales and
Meredith (31:32):
Oh, yeah.
Oh yeah.
I, okay.
I don't wanna talk while I'mright here at the beach on going
out there.
Stefanie (31:42):
Well, luckily Myrtle usually doesn't have anything
wash up.
It's usually like Japan and likethose, like yes.
Other places.
And yes, they say Americaalready has enough.
Crazy, we don't need to givethem anymore.
Meredith (31:55):
Kinda like how the, um, the UFOs were like, Nope,
don't start there.
Yep.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Stefanie (32:04):
Yeah.
I was probably like, I went downthis like huge rabbit hole of
all the weird things after thedragon head
Meredith (32:12):
I'm gonna have to look that up.
I'm fascinated with that.
Yeah.
Stefanie (32:15):
Did they show
Meredith (32:15):
pictures of it?
Stefanie (32:16):
Uhhuh?
Yeah.
Meredith (32:17):
I'm gonna try to look it up.
Where, and
Stefanie (32:19):
then it was like dragon sightings and like, it
was like popping up like all ofthese, like I have never heard
of anybody seeing a dragon
Meredith (32:25):
now that is just crazy to me.
Stefanie (32:27):
Yeah.
Well, and I swear, they wipe theinternet of things.
Meredith (32:33):
No.
Stefanie (32:34):
That they don't want us to know.
Yeah.
And then there's TikTok thatjust lets it all hang out.
Meredith (32:38):
Dragon headphones.
Very strange.
Wait, this is in Scotland.
Where did you say it was?
Romania.
Romania.
Okay.
I'm gonna have to take a, take adive down That too.
Thanks for that.
Stefanie (32:53):
Sorry.
you'll be there a while.
Yeah.
Well, Brian's driving on the wayhome.
You can go down the rabbit hole,right?
Meredith (33:02):
Oh, I'll have to, I'm gonna have to
Stefanie (33:05):
You wanna do, am I the A-hole?
Yeah.
Why don't you read it sincewe're kind at a weird.
All right.
am I the, a-hole for yelling ata 19-year-old and asking for him
to be fired?
all right, throwaway account.
I 37 male and my husband 39male, have been together 11
years.
My husband owns a small bookshopand recently has hired a boy to
help him.
(33:25):
The lad, I'll call him Joe, isgay.
And while me and my husband veryobviously have no issues with
this, Joe seems to be doingthings a lot differently to us
for context, both me and myhusband are Irish immigrants to
London, and no, I am notspeaking in a London accent or
an Irish accent for that matter.
(33:46):
Then I'm done.
We grew up 20 minutes away fromeach other and went to the same
very Catholic school.
We aren't exactly flamboyant oroutwardly gay and don't exactly
do PDA since that's how we wereraised.
On my lunch break from work, Ilike to visit my husband,
bringing him records I think hemight like, and his coffee.
(34:08):
Recently, however, Joe hasstarted making comments.
It started small with him sayingthings about queer joy and how
he loves gay couples, which wedidn't mind at all.
In all fairness, it's a fairlyscary world for queer people
right now, and I understandseeming a happy married gay
couple means a lot for a kid.
But then he started getting alittle too comfortable for my
(34:30):
liking.
He started asking things like,who's the top and calling us the
F slur jokingly.
I think it's entirelyinappropriate to be making those
comments to his boss, but myhusband told me to let it go.
Joe calls us the F slur a lot,which I had brought up a few
times telling him calmly to notdo that.
But when we continued, I learnedto let it go.
(34:52):
Despite my distaste for it, itdidn't seem to bother my husband
too much.
Last Wednesday, I lost it.
I was up by the counter.
When Joe came in, he immediatelystarted blathering on about how
effy we were.
And while my husband chuckledawkwardly, I did not, Joe
noticed this and said I was astick in the mud and repressed.
I was trying to keep my cooluntil he called me a fanon.
(35:17):
F slur.
I don't know what that means.
It must be a London thing.
Yeah, and I lost it.
For anyone who doesn't know theterm, oh, I should have went on
a little further.
For anyone who doesn't know theterm, Fanon isn't exactly a slur
or anything, but it isn'texactly nice either me, my
husband jokingly call each otherFanon or Patties from time to
time if we've somethingparticularly Irish.
(35:39):
And I've never exactly viewed itas very offensive, but something
about this English boy made mesnap this poor guy.
Yeah, I asked him if he thoughtthat it was appropriate to say
things to his boss's partner andstarted shouting, telling him
he's way out of line, and if hewants to keep his job, he should
buck up.
(36:01):
I like that.
I'm gonna start saying that.
Buck up, buck up.
I left to cool down a bit andabout 30 minutes later got a
call from my husband beratingme, saying that Joe was crying
and that he's just a kid.
I do feel bad since he's young,but I still think he needed to
be knocked out a few steps.
Am I the, a-hole there is anupdate to this as well.
Meredith (36:22):
Okay.
I that's a tough one because at19, like they're old enough to
be working and an adult.
Stefanie (36:28):
Mm-hmm.
Meredith (36:29):
Um, I think there might have, could have been a
better way to do it than justhaving his, intermittent
explosive disorder like happen,come out.
Um, what do you think?
Stefanie (36:41):
Um, I think that the husband should have addressed
it.
Meredith (36:47):
Yeah.
If they're
Stefanie (36:48):
in a of business.
Slurs shouldn't be used, period.
Agreed.
and if the husband's the boss, Ithink he should have handled it.
Yeah.
but if he wasn't gonna handleit, maybe have been said nicer,
but Right.
I understand the frustrationthat he probably had.
(37:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he had reached his limit,with his, the husband not taken
a stand on anything, but let'sget to the update.
Okay.
Okay.
Because it's a good one.
Okay.
All right.
Update.
Joe is my husband's son.
Dude.
Didn't know his husband had ason.
Okay.
(37:30):
Oh, I won't go into too much,um, detail for both mine and
their pri privacy, but I had amajor fight with my husband
about why he was being solenient with him and why he
didn't have my back in this.
We were shouting back and forthuntil he shouted something about
blood being thicker than water.
I shouted back about him beingjust some boy and he stopped
(37:54):
suddenly.
Then he told me Joe is from anexisting ex-girlfriend of his,
who's now unable to take care ofhim.
So my husband picked him up.
He's been paying child supportfor years.
We have separate bank accounts,so I never noticed.
I'm contemplating separation anddivorce.
Someone I've known for 25 yearsbecame a stranger in 10 seconds.
(38:15):
I physically got sick thinkingback on those sexual remarks
that he made to his father.
My husband's always went whiteas a ghost when he said those
kinds of things, and that waspossibly the only thing that
actually gave him away.
But it still makes me feel sick.
All the same.
Sorry, I won't be responding tocomments.
I need to get my head rightpersonally.
Meredith (38:37):
So they've been together or they've known each
other 25 years.
Stefanie (38:41):
Yeah.
Meredith (38:41):
And the kid is 19.
Stefanie (38:43):
Yep.
Meredith (38:45):
It sounds like there's a lot of, uh, stuff that they
need to work through there.
Stefanie (38:49):
Holy moly.
Yeah.
Meredith (38:53):
I still stand on the, I'm a hundred percent with you
though now even more with the,that's his father and his boss.
He should have handled it.
He didn't wanna know who's topand bottom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He deserved a dressing down, asthey say.
Yeah.
That's not okay.
Stefanie (39:11):
No.
No.
Well, I don't think he's the,a-hole, and I feel even more so
now that he is not the, a-hole.
Meredith (39:21):
Right, right.
I hope he gets his stuff figuredout because that's, that's just
devastating.
Stefanie (39:26):
My God.
I don't know if I would've, Idon't know.
I.
I don't know.
Meredith (39:31):
I'm glad he is, using a throwaway
Stefanie (39:33):
anonymous account.
My God.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
That was intense.
Meredith (39:39):
Yeah.
Wow.
Poor dude.
Stefanie (39:43):
I was a little bit like, oh, okay.
Here we are.
Yeah,
Meredith (39:49):
yeah.
Oh, okay.
Alright, moving on.
Stefanie (39:52):
so if you're not a bookie and you don't wanna
listen to our review of Lake ofthe Lost Girls, now is your time
to leave.
Meredith (40:00):
Bye y'all.
We still love you.
We
Stefanie (40:01):
do still love you.
Please leave us a review.
Meredith (40:03):
Bye bye.
Okeydoke, do you have
Stefanie (40:07):
a blurb of a blurb?
I do.
Okay.
So we read Lake of the LostGirls by Catherine Green, so in
1998, college freshman, JessicaFaley vanishes and missed a
string of disappearances atSouthern State University.
Over two decades later, hersister Lindsey Reignites, the
search for answers driven by ahit true crime podcast in a
chilling discovery at a locallake as past and present
(40:31):
collide, the story explores thedark threads of sisterhood
secrets and society's obsessionwith true crime.
Meredith (40:38):
Okay.
Stefanie (40:39):
Did you like it?
Did, yes, I did too.
Meredith (40:42):
And I had read this before, but I did not remember.
And how, I did not remember theending.
I don't know because Wow.
but I.
But yeah, I really liked thisbook.
Stefanie (40:55):
Yeah.
I texted you.
I, I was like halfway throughand I'm like, is it actually
really good?
Meredith (40:59):
Yeah.
Thank goodness, because our luckwith books has been running
pretty poor lately.
Um, I had a lot of feelingsabout, about it though.
I felt so many things forLindsay.
Stefanie (41:14):
Same,
Meredith (41:15):
like sad and hurt and frustrated and angry and
Stefanie (41:23):
Yes.
All, I mean, you went through aroller coaster of emotions
through this book.
Yeah.
so it did give us dual,timelines.
Mm-hmm.
And different point of views.
Mm-hmm.
And I was able to keepeverything straight, which is
same.
And you know, I struggle.
Yes.
Not always the easiest, but Idefinitely kept everything
straight with this book, which.
Chef's kiss.
Meredith (41:43):
Yes,
Stefanie (41:45):
yes, yes.
Agreed.
I think that the family dynamicsobviously were weird, but I
think it was written so well.
and hitting on how likefavorites favorite children and
mm-hmm.
Um, how parents can u kinda usethat power Yeah.
Of a favorite child.
Yeah.
to either pin kids against eachother or parents against each
(42:07):
other.
Right.
So, um, I thought that was areally interesting, and it
wasn't like the main focus ofthe book, but Right.
I picked up on it.
Meredith (42:15):
Right.
Well, and you knew somethingwith the relationship between
Jess and the dad was off,
Stefanie (42:24):
and I thought it was going in a different direction.
Meredith (42:26):
A hundred percent.
And I feel like that's what theywanted you to think.
So you would be a hundredpercent.
Taken aback by the ending of it.
Um, which spoilers?
Let's go ahead and throw thatout there.
Yeah.
Because we know we're probablygonna have them.
So it was just really wellwritten the way that they lead
(42:46):
you to believe she led you tobelieve it was gonna be,
inappropriate relationshipbetween the father and daughter,
and it was not.
Stefanie (42:55):
Right.
Um, but he did haveinappropriate relationships with
other young people.
Meredith (42:59):
Yes.
Stefanie (43:00):
And she found out, and that
Meredith (43:02):
hypocrisy there when he has had multiple
relationships with girls.
Girls like teenage girls.
And then his daughter is messingaround with a professor and he's
like, no, that's not okay.
Stefanie (43:20):
Yeah.
I think it said that sheactually never went through with
it.
Meredith (43:24):
She didn't.
But still, still just thethought of.
The thought of her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stefanie (43:29):
I hated Ryan, the, the boyfriend.
Oh.
I hated
Meredith (43:34):
him.
So you wanted to like him andyou wanted Lindsay to have some
kind of a positive, partnerhelping her with this stuff.
And he ends up being just a bigjerk who had played her from the
beginning, but
Stefanie (43:49):
like, I gross, like you're trying to date your, your
missing slash dead girlfriend's.
Right.
Sister.
Like, Ew, like much, muchyounger than the sister.
Yes.
The whole thing was just weirdand it was gross.
There
Meredith (44:04):
wasn't lot ickiness.
Stefanie (44:05):
Yeah.
Meredith (44:06):
With a lot of the relationships.
Agreed.
Most of the relationships were,gross.
Stefanie (44:10):
Obviously, I didn't guess the ending.
But, so my thought on theending, and obviously we're
doing spoilers, we always do.
So if you didn't read it and youwanna read it, here's your coup
to leave.
Yeah.
But I thought that the dad wasmolesting whatever.
(44:30):
Yes.
People, yeah.
I thought that she was a victim,but like also when you said
like, young girls or like, youknow, barely legal or whatever.
Right.
so I thought that the dad, shewas helping the dad get rid of
the bodies.
Okay.
Because he said, if I'm goingdown, you're going down too.
Yeah.
And so that I was like, oh, wellmaybe she's helping him, like
(44:54):
hide the bodies.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I didn't really think it was,the boyfriend.
Right.
I never like, thought aboutthat.
Meredith (45:04):
I mean, they, they kind of.
He's kind of just in there aslike a wild card.
Mm-hmm.
Like, not really, not reallysaying he didn't do it, but
things could line up so that hedid.
Stefanie (45:16):
Yeah.
Meredith (45:16):
But I never thought he did either.
Stefanie (45:18):
Mm-hmm.
I, again, never in a millionyears would have came to the
conclusion of the ending of thebook.
Right.
Meredith (45:27):
They, they really, she really tried to steer you in the
direction of it being theprofessor.
Stefanie (45:31):
Yeah.
Meredith (45:32):
That's really what she wanted you to believe.
And, yeah.
Never in a million years, evenafter reading it before, what I
have guessed, how about the facton where Jess was found Ew.
Right.
Ew.
All day that dad got so manyissues.
(45:55):
Ew.
Yeah.
Like, I have
Stefanie (45:59):
Ew, ew.
To, to think about having beenthat close to a.
Yeah.
Porch for all that time.
Nobody ever went into like, likeI was a Snoopy kid.
Like, yeah.
There is no way that I wouldn'thave been like at some point in
time lifting up that,
Meredith (46:19):
well, what about the mom too?
Like remember they, they go intodetail about how there were,
what was it?
Squirrels or possum?
A dead possum.
And the smell, and they go intodetail about that.
So at the time when all thisstuff was happening with these
girls going missing or, and or,you know, you're not, I don't
(46:40):
know, I guess you see, we seewhat we wanna see.
Right?
Well,
Stefanie (46:44):
I assumed that the dad just like told her that that's
what it was like.
Yeah.
A
Meredith (46:52):
hundred percent.
Stefanie (46:53):
Yeah.
Um, I don't think that the momknew anything.
I think that the mom washorrible.
Yeah.
Like she had her own issues.
Yes.
Meredith (47:03):
Yeah, because she had the second daughter because she
wanted somebody to deliver liketheir relationship, which isn't
healthy.
Stefanie (47:09):
Yeah.
The whole thing was,
Meredith (47:11):
yeah.
It was twisted enough for me tolike it though.
I know.
Me too.
What would, what would you rateit?
I'd give it, I'd give it a nine.
Stefanie (47:20):
I, I was gonna go eight and a half, nine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really liked it and I did notguess the ending whatsoever.
Meredith (47:25):
No.
It was very well done with, alot of information, a lot of
going back and forth, notgetting lost.
The unpredictable, aspect of ittoo, and then just twisted
enough
Stefanie (47:39):
for us.
Yeah.
All right.
So the, the next book that weare going to attempt to read is
The Marsh King's Daughter byKaren Dion.
Mm-hmm.
I think that's how you pronounceit.
Yep.
Helena has a loving husband, twobeautiful daughters, and a
business that fills her days,but she also has a secret.
She is the product of anabduction.
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Her mother was kidnapped as ateenager by her father and kept
in a remote cabin in themarshlands of Michigan's upper
peninsula.
Helena born two years after theabduction, loved her home in
nature, and despite her father'ssometimes brutal behavior, she
loved him too.
Until she learned precisely thathow savage he could be.
More than 20 years later, shehas buried her past so soundly
(48:21):
that even her husband doesn'tknow the truth.
But now her father has killedtwo guards, escaped from prison
and disappeared into the marsh.
The police begin a manhunt butHelena knows they don't stand.
A chance knows that only oneperson has the skills to find
the survivalist.
The world calls the Marsh kingbecause only one person was ever
trained by him, his daughter.
(48:43):
So it doesn't sound bad.
Meredith (48:44):
Sounds a little different with the, with the
Marcy and the track in
Stefanie (48:48):
Yeah.
Um, but we got the abduction.
We got yeah.
Some twisted stuff.
Meredith (48:54):
Babies being born.
Yeah.
I twisted enough for us to likeit, so fingers crossed.
Stefanie (49:01):
So, we will read that and get with that book next week
on the podcast.
Oh, we got a thumbs up.
Thumbs up.
Meredith (49:08):
Yep, we did.
I should have screenshottedthat.
I didn't think about it.
How does it happen?
I dunno.
Stefanie (49:17):
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Stefanie (49:33):
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It's okay.
Go for it.
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Welcome to, this is my circus,the podcast where we embrace the
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(00:21):
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Buckle up, grab your popcorn,and let's get into the chaos.
Stefanie (00:27):
I'm Stephanie.
Meredith (00:28):
I'm Meredith.
Stefanie (00:29):
And welcome to This is my circus and Meredith is not
here.
We are zooming today.
Meredith (00:35):
Yep.
We are zooming today.
I am at the beach
Stefanie (00:40):
Lucky dog.
Meredith (00:40):
I'm sitting on my balcony right now and, just came
in and had some supper and justenjoying, some away time.
Yeah.
So it's nice.
Stefanie (00:50):
Nice.
Well,
Meredith (00:52):
Yeah, I worked yesterday, so it was tough to
sit here and know I was righthere and not be able to, Enjoy
the sun, but well at, at, atleast
Stefanie (01:00):
the view is nice.
Meredith (01:01):
Great.
The view is nice.
so it's, we're at Myrtle.
Myrtle, dirty Myrtle.
Whoops.
I dropped you.
I caught you.
I gotcha.
yeah, so we're like north.
There's not, it's not like theparty area or anything, so
that's really good.
Jackson brought a friend and,you know, they're doing their
thing.
is Dylan at the beach?
Stefanie (01:21):
No, he, is actually miniature golfing with Ruthie
right now.
Meredith (01:24):
I thought that he was going to the beach this week
with Tyler.
Stefanie (01:26):
No, no, no.
That's like the end of may be,and June.
Meredith (01:30):
And that's with Reagan
Stefanie (01:31):
actually.
Meredith (01:32):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I totally messed that up.
How are you?
Stefanie (01:37):
Good, good.
How was Easter?
Meredith (01:38):
Well, you saw my Easter basket that I made for
Jackson, so, it was fine.
It was, it was fine.
So I ended up giving him MissCrocs early.
That he had wanted.
So I didn't make the do theears.
but I didn't have time.
So I was house, not housesitting.
I was dog sitting on Saturday,so I had to go back and forth
and let them out a few times.
(02:00):
The same time I was doing that,I was helping a friend at a
wedding.
Mm-hmm.
and King's Mountain with herphotography stuff.
So I was doing that plus tryingto just mentally get myself
together with what I needed topack.
Yeah.
so I stopped at a, dollar Tree,family Dollar or something and
just grabbed some of all thecandies.
I know Jackson liked and threw'em in the bag and he was just
(02:23):
fine with it.
Stefanie (02:25):
Well, you
Meredith (02:25):
know, yeah.
He was fine.
So we went to church thatmorning, which was nice.
We hadn't been to church in along time, and actually one of
the ladies there who I neverwould have expected said, I see
you have a podcast.
I've watched some of the clipssometime.
So Charlene, if you'relistening, Hey girl.
But it was, I never would haveexpected out of all the people
(02:47):
there to have said something.
So, um, that was, that wasfunny.
That was great.
Stefanie (02:52):
You're famous.
Meredith (02:53):
Well, sure.
but it, it was nice to go tochurch and do all that.
So then we came home, threw ourstuff in the car and we left.
Stefanie (03:01):
Nice.
Meredith (03:01):
And there was zero traffic yesterday.
Really?
I was expecting there to be justlike all kinds of jam traffic
jams and whatever.
We did not stop one time we gotin the car and we got here like
right at three and a half hours.
Mm-hmm.
Um, no, no issues at all.
Okay.
I was like, thank you.
Yes.
That's nice.
(03:21):
Uhhuh doesn't happen often, sowhen it does, I'll take it.
Stefanie (03:24):
Yeah, for sure.
Meredith (03:25):
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (03:26):
Um, well we, I had texted you, Dylan had to get his
phone.
Switched over, fixed, whatever.
so we were at T-Mobile store andDylan, I was on, Amazon.
'cause we were sitting therewaiting for all the data to
transfer over to the other phoneand, I saw a cooler backpack on
Amazon and I was like, Dylan,would you use that?
(03:46):
Like when you go fishing or,because he goes fishing a lot
with his friends and he's like,yeah, actually I would.
That's really cool.
And I was like, add to cart,right?
And so that is what his basket,actually was.
That's cute
Meredith (03:58):
though.
That's a cute idea.
And actually probably not evenadd to cart, but buy now.
Stefanie (04:03):
Well it was like, oh, I wanted to make sure like the
location address was right and,'cause there's two dials and
different locations in there,
Meredith (04:09):
nice.
Stefanie (04:10):
Yeah, so he, he liked his stuff and he was happy.
Ruthie was happy.
So
Meredith (04:15):
I'll say she was, 'cause we know girls shopping
for girls is not something we'reused to.
So.
She liked her basket.
Stefanie (04:21):
Yeah.
Um, Lowe's came in clutchbecause one of her favorite
colors is purple.
So I was looking for a purpleStanley and everywhere was sold
out of like purple and Lowe'shad a purple.
Meredith (04:33):
I'll have to tell Brian
Stefanie (04:35):
I walked around aimlessly like looking for it
and it was right by theregister.
Oh.
But I went around the entirestore.
Meredith (04:42):
What day were you there?
Stefanie (04:43):
Saturday.
Meredith (04:45):
Oh.
So lemme tell you this, lemmemake sure this door is shut, I
don't know why, because Brian'sgonna listen anyway.
Okay.
So, as I said, I was helpingAshley at the wedding with the
photography stuff, right?
That's been on the calendar fora while.
That was not a surprise, thatwas not new information.
also for a couple weeks, Brianknew I was helping this lady
(05:07):
with her dog, right?
Mm-hmm.
And how crazy that was gonna be,and the packing, like it was a
lot.
I probably shouldn't have triedto take on all of that at one
time, but I made it through.
So Friday night, Brian's like,they're offering, you know, if
anybody wants to come in to workat Lowe's tomorrow on Saturday,
I was like, well sure.
Go thinking.
(05:28):
He would know I needed him home.
Oh.
And here's, I was like, why isthat such a big deal?
Here's the other thing, youknow, Jackson and Brian are
cutting yard.
Mm.
And they had told'em they weregonna be there at a specific
time, or I had relayed themessage to the people saying
that they would be there at aspecific time.
Well, Brian wasn't coming hometill like three.
He worked like seven to three orsomething.
(05:49):
They were supposed to cut yardsat noon.
And I was like.
I'll just put it in my car.
So I threw all of it in my carand we went, but then backing
out of the garage,'cause I wasin my feelings, I hit the golf
cart, little scratch on the sideof my car from the golf cart.
We get to the lady's house andshe had called me, like, as I
(06:09):
was backing into the golf cart,and she said, somebody, my
neighbor came and cut my grass.
so don't worry about cutting it,but if y'all wanna like get
these weeds in the back and youknow, do some other things.
I was like, okay, let me callyou back.
I just plowed the golf cartover.
So she was like, okay.
So we get there and she, she hadsent me a picture of what weed
she wanted down.
So I'm weed eating and all of asudden the weed eater runs outta
(06:30):
stream.
And I've already got so much inmy freaking head that I've tried
to, you know, it's just those,those days.
Stefanie (06:37):
Yeah.
And that would've been the pointwhere I start crying.
Because I'm a crier.
Meredith (06:41):
Yeah.
So I actually, I.
When I, I hit the golf cart, Iwas driving obviously, and it
was on the passenger side, and Igot out and I was not gonna pull
my car up again'cause I didn'twant it to scratch more.
I was like, let me just pull thegolf cart away.
Yeah.
To avoid it.
But I just sat on the golf cartfor a second, just like closing
my eyes and try to get myselftogether.
(07:03):
He said, mom, are you good?
And I was like, just gimme asecond.
No.
So yeah, it was, and then like Isaid, that was a like noon.
I had to leave at one to get toKing's Mountain.
It was just, you know, thosetiktoks you see of like, I told
my husband we're having 80people over and he's out here
like blowing out the attic orsomething random.
(07:23):
What they do.
Yeah.
What they do.
But it all got done andeverything is good.
And I am sandy and salty.
So
Stefanie (07:30):
it's all good now.
Yeah.
Meredith (07:31):
Yes, absolutely.
This yellow is making me lookreally tan, isn't it?
Stefanie (07:36):
It is.
And it matches your hat.
It does Me, you, my
Meredith (07:41):
baby suit because I'm going back in the hot tub.
Sorry I'm all over the placetoday.
No,
Stefanie (07:49):
it's all good.
You're on vacation, you'reallowed to be.
Meredith (07:51):
Yeah, I guess
Stefanie (07:53):
well, I found a really cool online tool for A DHD.
Okay.
And I know that we are bothsuper flighty it is called
goblin tools.
Okay.
So it is this site and you pullit up and you type in whatever
the task is that you wanna do.
most people with a DHD, and I'mvery much this s way, needs
(08:14):
everything broken down intominute steps, you know, like
mm-hmm.
And I like to be able to checkthings off, to see that I'm
making progress.
Yes.
So even if it's like clean myoffice and I put in, clean my
office and reorganize books.
Yeah.
And it will ask you how brokendown do you want it?
And you use like these littlechili peppers and it's one to
(08:35):
five chili peppers of how brokendown you need it.
Okay.
And then you hit the littlemagic wand and it breaks it down
into minute steps.
And then you can either use thewebsite and like check off as
you're going or you can print itoff and cross it off or
whatever.
Meredith (08:51):
Yes.
Stefanie (08:52):
But it is super cool.
Meredith (08:54):
That sounds like it's really handy and I a hundred
percent get it.
I am a list maker to my core.
Stefanie (09:01):
Yeah.
Meredith (09:02):
For satisfaction of making progress.
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (09:05):
Marking
Meredith (09:05):
something off, showing that I've been productive.
Stefanie (09:08):
I'm making sure I don't forget something.
Meredith (09:10):
No, absolutely none of that I wonder if it's an app or
is it, you said it's just, it'sthe website.
Stefanie (09:16):
I'm not sure.
I had seen it on I think TikTokor somewhere, somebody had like
shown them using it and I waslike, that is so freaking cool.
So I went in there Yeah.
To test it and was like, clean.
I need to clean my office andreorganize my books on my
bookshelf.
And it was like, step one, cleanoff the top of your bookshelf
and dust it.
Step two, take off all of yourbooks and rearrange by
(09:38):
alphabetical order.
Um, if you don't likealphabetical order, you can do
it by author right.
it gave you different ideas toorganize and then it's like,
step three, uh, put all booksback on.
Oh, dust off all shelves whilebooks are off.
Step four.
I like it.
Yeah.
So, and then it was like, cleanoff your desk, you know, use
cleaning product to wipeeverything down.
(09:58):
Any papers you don't needthrowing the trucks.
Yeah.
Meredith (10:02):
So.
Oh, that's good.
And you know what, with thattoo, it helps you stay locked
in, into what you're doing.
Right?
Because I am the queen of, oh,I'm gonna clean out my closet.
Oh, I wonder if this dress stillfits.
This will look good on vacation.
Let me go plan a cruise.
I mean, random and, yeah,exactly.
Yes.
Um, nice.
Goblin dot.
(10:23):
What tools?
Goblin tools.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (10:26):
So really cool.
I was pleasantly surprised bythat little feature.
Yeah.
And I'm sure like chat GPT orwhatever all would also do that
for you.
But I just like the little chilipeppers and the little magic
wand.
Meredith (10:39):
Yes, absolutely.
I have been using the heck outof chat, GBT lately.
I've needed some help writingsome things, and I'm like, can
you make this sound moreprofessional?
Can you make this sound?
More, empathetic or whatever.
I'm loving it.
I'm all about it.
Stefanie (10:54):
Yeah.
I I am a avid chat GBT user forall the things,
Meredith (10:59):
all the things.
Don't know how we live withoutit.
Stefanie (11:01):
Well, do you wanna have a little fun?
Meredith (11:03):
Of course.
Stefanie (11:04):
It's a personality test.
So I'm gonna give you threequestions
Meredith (11:07):
Okay.
Stefanie (11:08):
And I'll tell you mine after we're done.
Okay.
So if you can be any animal inthe world, what would it be and
why?
And just think about this,
Meredith (11:17):
what would it be and why?
Mm-hmm.
Did you come up with an answerPretty quickly because I'm like
struggling.
Stefanie (11:23):
I didn't at first.
but it, it eventually, like Ithought of something'cause I was
like, oh, well,
Meredith (11:28):
yeah.
So I'm thinking, like adomesticated cat.
Stefanie (11:32):
Okay.
And why?
Meredith (11:35):
Because they really don't have to do much of
anything.
And they're cute and adorableand everybody loves them.
Like, if you like cats, you likecats.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't have a job.
Stefanie (11:48):
So I had chosen dogs.
Meredith (11:50):
I was gonna choose a
Stefanie (11:51):
dog, but I was like, well, and I was like, well, dogs
are loyal and they like tocuddle and you know, your
companion is like what I wasthinking for, you know, like,
they're, they're, they'reloving.
Yeah.
Okay.
So if, if that animal becameextinct, what would your next
animal be that you would be.
And why?
Meredith (12:11):
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, I'm trying to think.
Practically not like,'causethey're just cute and fluffy.
maybe like, maybe like a lion.
Stefanie (12:20):
Okay.
Why?
Meredith (12:21):
Because they are powerful and respected and,
which is kinda a lot of theopposite stuff of my first
animal.
But they're the, top of the foodchain, you know what I mean?
Like, they're, they're just,they're them.
Stefanie (12:38):
I chose, I chose an otter.
Meredith (12:42):
They're, I mean, yeah, they're adorable.
Stefanie (12:44):
They're small and they're fun, and they get into a
lot of trouble.
Meredith (12:47):
Yeah.
That, that's very true.
That's very true.
That's you.
That is you.
Is that what this is supposed toprove?
Stefanie (12:55):
So, number three.
So if those animals wereextinct, what would you choose?
Meredith (13:00):
I would choose like a big gorilla.
I cannot wait to hear whatthese,
Stefanie (13:10):
why do you want to be a big,
Meredith (13:13):
Because they have a lot of human traits, human
capabilities, like they gotfingers and a thumb.
They can do things, they cancommunicate.
again, I think they're, they're,they're respected.
They're big and, you know,powerful.
They're at the, near the top ofthe food chain.
They're not really aggressive,but don't provoke.
Okay.
what'd you choose?
(13:33):
A sloth?
Stefanie (13:38):
Because all they have to do is eat and chill all day,
and they have lasted sinceprehistoric time.
Meredith (13:43):
That's a great, great answer.
That's a great answer.
It's not, it's not because.
What did we, what did, what didwe just reveal about ourselves
with this?
Stefanie (13:55):
So the first question for the first animal that you
chose, is how you want the worldto perceive you.
So like, mine was dog and it'slike loyal companion.
Okay, cuddly.
Meredith (14:06):
I said cat.
'cause they were lazy and cuteand cuddly.
Stefanie (14:09):
Okay, so the second is how the world actually perceives
you.
Meredith (14:15):
Okay.
The lion And what did you have?
The the otter and playful.
Yeah, I see it.
I am powerful.
And the top of the food chain,
Stefanie (14:25):
I'm
Meredith (14:25):
just like pretty much
Stefanie (14:29):
in circles.
Um, and then the third is whatyou really are directly
represents you and what you tryto put out in the world.
So I try to put out food andlazy.
Meredith (14:47):
I try to put out human capabilities.
It's better than a slough.
Well, it's been around for awhile.
It's not going anywhere.
See, this is hard.
This is a very hard thingbecause we're both animal
lovers.
Like I could have said athousand animals.
Like I had a very hard time justrandomly picking an animal.
Stefanie (15:08):
You know what is funny though?
Isn't neither of us pickedraccoon?
Meredith (15:11):
No, no.
Trash pan is for us.
We both love them so much.
Stefanie (15:17):
So when you said sloth, you're like, oh yeah.
And I'm like, no, that's notgood.
Meredith (15:23):
That's funny though.
That is funny.
I like that little quiz.
I'm gonna have to add Jackson.
I'm gonna record it.
Yeah.
Oh,
Stefanie (15:30):
well.
I'm
Meredith (15:30):
Dylan.
Yeah, I like that.
That's great.
Stefanie (15:33):
I was like, oh, well, that's insightful.
Meredith (15:37):
I thought you were gonna say, like, after I said
it, I was like, oh crap.
Is one of those like your spouseor something like what you're
looking for to spouse?
Stefanie (15:45):
No, it's just how the world perceives you.
Meredith (15:48):
Okay, good.
Nothing to do with them.
Just me like it.
Stefanie (15:50):
Well along those lines, have you heard this?
And I don't know, I guess it wasa real study, but, the Disney
princesses, yeah.
They're all supposed torepresent some kind of disorder.
Okay.
Have you ever heard of this?
No.
Okay.
So it, um, and I'll link it inour show notes, but from the
west, uh, west Georgia wellnesscenter.com, they have a whole
(16:15):
article on it and it like breaksdown each character.
So I was like, so.
Confused and then like, it allmade so much sense once I
thought about all of thesedisorders that they connect to
these characters.
Meredith (16:30):
Okay.
So nothing is popping in my headexcept for sleeping beauty with
narcolepsy.
Stefanie (16:35):
Okay, so Rapunzel.
Okay.
She is supposed to representpost-traumatic stress disorder
due to her long captivity in theisolated tower.
Her anxiety and jumpiness whenexposed to new experiences can
reflect trauma related responsesas she navigates trust issues
and profound fear of theunknown.
Meredith (16:56):
So do we, is this really, like, was this the
intention when they createdthese or is that just what we're
picking apart now?
Do think it
Stefanie (17:04):
doesn't say, it just says that there was, I guess a
bunch of psychiatrists analyzedthe characters.
Okay.
Meredith (17:12):
I mean, that makes sense for Rapunzel.
Stefanie (17:14):
All right.
Donald Duck.
Intermittent explosive disorder.
Meredith (17:17):
Yes.
Stefanie (17:19):
Yes.
he's a hothead by nature with ashort fuse and he is become
iconic for that.
His tendency to blow up overminor irritations demonstrates
the sudden intense outburstsoften associated with IED.
So I know lots of people thatcould be diagnosed with that.
Meredith (17:37):
Yeah, absolutely.
Stefanie (17:39):
I didn't even know that that was a legit,
diagnosis.
What's
Meredith (17:42):
IED do?
Is that the explosive disorder?
Stefanie (17:45):
Intermittent explosive disorder.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Alright.
Dumbo social anxiety.
Meredith (17:52):
You know, I don't think I've ever seen Dumbo.
Really?
I don't think so.
Ears, poof.
Aw.
I know.
Tell me about him though.
Okay.
Why is social anxiety
Stefanie (18:01):
says dumbo's experience in Disney's movie
embodies traits akin to socialanxiety disorder, ridiculed for
his oversized ears and leftfeeling like he doesn't belong.
Dumbo's hesitance to engage withothers can reflect profound
fears of judgment and rejection.
Poor little gong.
I know.
Simba is also post-traumaticstress Uhhuh.
(18:24):
obviously he witnessed hisfather being off by his uncle.
Meredith (18:32):
Lots
Stefanie (18:33):
of lots
Meredith (18:33):
of trauma there for some
Stefanie (18:34):
of, so he grapples with intrusive memories and
overwhelming feelings of guiltand shame.
All right.
So Tigger from Winnie the Pooh.
Mm-hmm.
A DHD.
Meredith (18:45):
Oh, a hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
Stefanie (18:49):
Do you know that that was my favorite character, like
forever?
Meredith (18:52):
Was it really that track?
Stefanie (18:57):
I had a huge, cardboard like cutout of Tigger
on my wall, like as a teenager.
Did you?
Meredith (19:03):
my favorite was the Tasmanian Devil.
I get that.
And like my friends would go onvacation and bring me key chains
of it and stuff.
Mm-hmm.
So yeah.
Wow.
We are special, special people.
It tracks just like our animals.
A hundred percent.
Stefanie (19:22):
Elsa and her sister Anna represents, could represent
schizophrenia.
Like two dueling personalities.
Yeah.
or Elsa also can, represent,major depressive disorder
because she locks herself away.
Meredith (19:39):
Yeah.
Have you ever read all thosetheories or heard all of those
about how they, they're reallyrelated to, is it Rapunzel?
Yeah.
Stefanie (19:46):
I love that.
It's like the whole Disney verseor whatever they call it.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Who El Alice?
Alice, schizophrenia.
Alice in Wonderland.
She's seen all sorts ofCaterpillar smokings and all
the,
Meredith (19:59):
all the things.
All the things.
She gets really small or is itdrug use Hallucinogens.
Eat me.
Stefanie (20:08):
Yeah.
Meredith (20:09):
Drink
Stefanie (20:09):
me.
Yeah.
scar Antisocial Personalitydisorder.
I don't think that that meansreally any.
No, we're good with that.
Bell Stockholm Syndrome.
Meredith (20:24):
Absolutely.
Stefanie (20:25):
Yes.
Ariel.
OCD and DYS Phobia.
DYS phobia hoarding disorder.
'cause she hoards all of herhuman trinkets in that shit.
Her,
Meredith (20:37):
yes.
Her thinging hoppers and thethings.
Yep.
The thingama jigs.
Wow.
Stefanie (20:42):
This reminds me of is when all the judges, went
through the movie, the Grinchand like Yeah.
That we talked about.
Meredith (20:49):
Yes.
And all the conditions anddisorders and.
Body Morpheus and all the thingsthat Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I'm liking this though, so I,now that we've talked about it,
I'm thinking probably what itwas, was they, they're just
breaking down these things afterthe fact.
Probably not before, but some, Iremember reading something about
(21:09):
like, most of the traditionalDisney movies have trauma of
some kind.
Most of them are parentalkilling off the mom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bambi, all the other ones we'vementioned.
yeah.
That's no wonder this wholegeneration we're like, we are
what we grew up with.
Mm-hmm.
Stefanie (21:28):
Between that
Meredith (21:29):
and the unrealistic, unrealistic expectations of a
library because of Bell'sLibrary that he, she has or
Stefanie (21:38):
animals helping you clean.
Meredith (21:40):
Right.
I told Brian no.
If we're ever so rich that wejust have a mammoth house.
I want a library.
Same, I mean like a cozy littlearea.
Moody vibes in there.
Comfy, cozy spot.
Stefanie (21:57):
Okay.
My library would be filled withbean bags, like those giant,
giant giant meat bags.
Okay, okay.
And like a big bay window.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then wall to wallbookshelves.
Meredith (22:13):
Yeah, absolutely.
All the bookshelves.
I'm thinking more, almost like aChase lounge kind of thing.
Me
Stefanie (22:23):
and a fireplace.
Meredith (22:24):
A hundred percent.
Absolutely.
Fireplace Oh, and the ladder tothe second stair.
Yes.
to the second level of books.
Stefanie (22:31):
Yes.
Well, especially for me'cause
Meredith (22:34):
So the ladder for the first level of books.
Stefanie (22:38):
To get to the, to the top level of the first
Meredith (22:41):
book case.
But yeah, all the, uh, I wouldlove to have one, love to have
library.
Stefanie (22:47):
I, uh, I would love to have a lot of things.
Yeah, there is, there is acompound for sale in like
Alabama or somewhere, and I justsaw it on Facebook and I guess
when they built it, it was$24million.
and it's on, it's on the marketfor 5 million right now and Wow.
But it has 27 acres of land.
The main house alone is like thesize of the White House.
(23:10):
Like legit has the same squarefootage as the White House.
And then there's two guest homesthat are bigger than any homes
that I've ever been in.
Wow.
Like physically have been in.
Meredith (23:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not that we stalked online,
Stefanie (23:25):
but two guest houses that are like 7,000 because
they're 6,000 square feet.
What?
And then there's like, you know,the pool, the tennis courts, you
know, all the things.
Right.
but yeah, so it was, they weresaying it was so crazy'cause it
cost 20, I think it was, theythink it was 24 million to
(23:46):
build, but they can't get 24million for it.
And it's on the market for 5million.
Meredith (23:53):
Somebody's getting a deal.
Sheesh.
Yeah.
That's quite a, that's quite acut.
Stefanie (24:00):
Yeah.
Very much so.
Meredith (24:02):
Would you live on a compound like that?
Um, with, with people you wouldchoose?
So like families you wouldchoose?
Stefanie (24:10):
Oh, I could choose.
Heck yeah.
Meredith (24:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That'd be fun.
Stefanie (24:15):
Yeah.
But if it was Okay, let's justmove on.
Okay,
Meredith (24:22):
moving on.
Moving on.
Did you organize your booksthough back there?
No.
Change'em, I was gonna say, Idon't really, I mean, I can't,
obviously can't really see.
What's going on back there, but
Stefanie (24:33):
no, no, I, I, I made the list.
I just didn't do it.
Meredith (24:39):
That's not the way that's supposed to work.
No, that's buddy.
Stefanie (24:44):
Hey, I know that we both kind of like the
supernatural stuff, so did yousee they found a dragon skull,
what they think is a dragonskull in a well in Romania?
No.
Yeah.
So this dude was digging a wellin Romania and like they have
the picture of like the aboveand it's like pretty deep.
(25:04):
It's like 20, 30 feet orwhatever in the ground.
And the skull head is like asbig as the dude.
Shut
Meredith (25:12):
up.
Stefanie (25:13):
Yeah.
Meredith (25:14):
Now I'm all for it.
Why are we thinking dragons arenot dinosaurs?
Stefanie (25:17):
I guess how like the snout is it's more like how
dragons are always firebreathable.
Yeah.
Just like the long snout like.
However it's shaped, it lookslike more dragony and I mean, go
Romania kind of checks, right?
I mean, I don't know.
I just, oh, hundred percent.
Yeah.
so yeah, they're thinkingdragons or that's what they're
(25:38):
calling it is a dragon skull,that's crazy.
It bananas.
But I'm here for, I mean, I'mlike, bring back the, listen,
you can keep the wooly mammoth.
Bring back the dragons.
I know.
I don't wanna just be sittinghere on a dragon fly by.
I wanna ride one.
I wanna be like, how to trainyour dragon?
Gimme a tooth.
Meredith (25:55):
It's sweet.
Like toothless.
Absolutely.
But
Stefanie (25:58):
like those mean angry ones I get, I get one of those
like dinghy ones that like flyinto a tree.
Meredith (26:05):
You'd get the.
Oh.
Stefanie (26:10):
So I went down the dragon rabbit hole on TikTok
after I saw that video.
Yeah.
And then, I guess not too longago, there's, and I don't know,
I mean, it could be whatever,not real, but it looked kind of
legit.
Um, but there was people inChina, like they went on this
tour in the mountains and stuff,and there's a video of what
(26:32):
looks like a dragon flying.
It doesn't look like a bird.
Any kind of bird, nothing likeit looks
Meredith (26:37):
like a dragon.
Stefanie (26:38):
Yeah.
And so now I've been, you know,I keep going, going, going,
going on TikTok and these likeweird creatures are coming out
of all of these caves and stuffin like different countries.
Like somebody needs to stoprolling the Jumanji dice, right.
We're good.
(26:59):
We're fine.
Yeah, we're
Meredith (27:00):
fine.
Stefanie (27:01):
Oh my goodness.
And like, these, like crazy hugeeggs are being found really, um,
in like these caves and stuff.
So either like dragons are stillaround or That is creepy, but
how cool is that?
I mean, yeah, like they escapedfrom like the secret world that
(27:23):
we're not supposed to knowabout.
Like
Meredith (27:26):
maybe they crossed over.
Maybe the caves are like theportals get there.
Stefanie (27:32):
Well.
On my Dragon journey down TikTokland, there was somebody had
made a post and then like I wentto chat JBT and said, Hey, can
you gimme all the information onthis?
Because I wanted to know likewhat was on the internet, but I
didn't wanna do the goog, so Idid the chat.
Did you say
Meredith (27:50):
that whole sentence into your chat?
GPT?
Hey, can you gimme this?
'cause I really don't wanna lookit up myself, but I really want
the information.
No, I said, can
Stefanie (27:57):
you find me all the info and put it in easy bullet
points for my podcast.
Um, Admiral Richard Bird and theSecrets of North Pole, because
North Pole, you know, you're notsupposed to fly over North Pole.
Yeah.
and there is satellite imageswhere it just looked like it's a
(28:18):
black hole.
The North Pole, like it is, likereally a black hole.
And so Admiral by, um, AdmiralRichard Byrd, he was a US Navy
officer, explorer, and anational hero claimed to be the
first to fly over the NorthPole.
In 1926, he led expeditions toAntarctica and was known for his
(28:40):
scientific contributions.
So his North Pole flight in1926, he flew his And sparked a
controversy because he says thathe found a massive opening and
it led to the hollow earthwithin, so this is where like
journey to the center of theearth, like that movie.
(29:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what he is saying.
He found like what?
Yeah.
So.
He says, it was like lush,green, you know, tropical type
of whatever.
you know, dinosaurs, I mean allof the, the creatures and the
things that they say are mm-hmm.
No longer whatever.
(29:23):
and then like he met the masterdown there and I guess like the
big man in charge, which is likethis, like giant alien ish
thing.
Okay.
Okay.
So, so supposedly his diary, butthey can't prove it is, so this
is like conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
Um, that he, like this diarysurvived and it accounts all of
(29:47):
his journey to the center of theearth.
That is crazy.
Right?
I, I don't know.
And he said that he he broughtout all of his stuff to the US
government and they were like,Nope, we're covering that up.
What year was that?
Did
Meredith (30:06):
it say
Stefanie (30:06):
1926?
Meredith (30:07):
2099 years ago?
Stefanie (30:12):
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
Yeah.
Um, and there was like, he saidthat there was like UFO style
stuff down there, like flyingcrafts and like, it's like a
whole like world under, insideof our world.
Meredith (30:26):
I a hundred percent believe that if you go to, that
place in Nevada, where WillSmith went?
That you'll see all that stuff.
Where was that?
Do you, you know what I'mtalking about?
Area?
Area 51.
Stefanie (30:39):
51, yeah.
52.
51.
Meredith (30:43):
Isn't that bananas?
Yeah.
What's crazy too is I've neverheard anything about that.
Stefanie (30:51):
Yeah, but there's like legit satellite images.
Yeah.
That just show like a blackhole, black hole.
I don't know.
Meredith (30:59):
Santa Claus don't live there.
No.
It's a black hole.
No, no.
That's crazy.
All this stuff that couldpossibly be real, but sometimes
there's proof of it being real.
It's crazy scary.
Stefanie (31:14):
Listen, I told you that I believe in all of the
things, these things don't justpop up from
Meredith (31:19):
nowhere.
Right.
What gets me is all the randomanimals that'll wash up on shore
Stefanie (31:25):
freaks me out.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
And then the mermaid tales and
Meredith (31:32):
Oh, yeah.
Oh yeah.
I, okay.
I don't wanna talk while I'mright here at the beach on going
out there.
Stefanie (31:42):
Well, luckily Myrtle usually doesn't have anything
wash up.
It's usually like Japan and likethose, like yes.
Other places.
And yes, they say Americaalready has enough.
Crazy, we don't need to givethem anymore.
Meredith (31:55):
Kinda like how the, um, the UFOs were like, Nope,
don't start there.
Yep.
Keep going.
Keep going.
Stefanie (32:04):
Yeah.
I was probably like, I went downthis like huge rabbit hole of
all the weird things after thedragon head
Meredith (32:12):
I'm gonna have to look that up.
I'm fascinated with that.
Yeah.
Stefanie (32:15):
Did they show
Meredith (32:15):
pictures of it?
Stefanie (32:16):
Uhhuh?
Yeah.
Meredith (32:17):
I'm gonna try to look it up.
Where, and
Stefanie (32:19):
then it was like dragon sightings and like, it
was like popping up like all ofthese, like I have never heard
of anybody seeing a dragon
Meredith (32:25):
now that is just crazy to me.
Stefanie (32:27):
Yeah.
Well, and I swear, they wipe theinternet of things.
Meredith (32:33):
No.
Stefanie (32:34):
That they don't want us to know.
Yeah.
And then there's TikTok thatjust lets it all hang out.
Meredith (32:38):
Dragon headphones.
Very strange.
Wait, this is in Scotland.
Where did you say it was?
Romania.
Romania.
Okay.
I'm gonna have to take a, take adive down That too.
Thanks for that.
Stefanie (32:53):
Sorry.
you'll be there a while.
Yeah.
Well, Brian's driving on the wayhome.
You can go down the rabbit hole,right?
Meredith (33:02):
Oh, I'll have to, I'm gonna have to
Stefanie (33:05):
You wanna do, am I the A-hole?
Yeah.
Why don't you read it sincewe're kind at a weird.
All right.
am I the, a-hole for yelling ata 19-year-old and asking for him
to be fired?
all right, throwaway account.
I 37 male and my husband 39male, have been together 11
years.
My husband owns a small bookshopand recently has hired a boy to
help him.
(33:25):
The lad, I'll call him Joe, isgay.
And while me and my husband veryobviously have no issues with
this, Joe seems to be doingthings a lot differently to us
for context, both me and myhusband are Irish immigrants to
London, and no, I am notspeaking in a London accent or
an Irish accent for that matter.
(33:46):
Then I'm done.
We grew up 20 minutes away fromeach other and went to the same
very Catholic school.
We aren't exactly flamboyant oroutwardly gay and don't exactly
do PDA since that's how we wereraised.
On my lunch break from work, Ilike to visit my husband,
bringing him records I think hemight like, and his coffee.
(34:08):
Recently, however, Joe hasstarted making comments.
It started small with him sayingthings about queer joy and how
he loves gay couples, which wedidn't mind at all.
In all fairness, it's a fairlyscary world for queer people
right now, and I understandseeming a happy married gay
couple means a lot for a kid.
But then he started getting alittle too comfortable for my
(34:30):
liking.
He started asking things like,who's the top and calling us the
F slur jokingly.
I think it's entirelyinappropriate to be making those
comments to his boss, but myhusband told me to let it go.
Joe calls us the F slur a lot,which I had brought up a few
times telling him calmly to notdo that.
But when we continued, I learnedto let it go.
(34:52):
Despite my distaste for it, itdidn't seem to bother my husband
too much.
Last Wednesday, I lost it.
I was up by the counter.
When Joe came in, he immediatelystarted blathering on about how
effy we were.
And while my husband chuckledawkwardly, I did not, Joe
noticed this and said I was astick in the mud and repressed.
I was trying to keep my cooluntil he called me a fanon.
(35:17):
F slur.
I don't know what that means.
It must be a London thing.
Yeah, and I lost it.
For anyone who doesn't know theterm, oh, I should have went on
a little further.
For anyone who doesn't know theterm, Fanon isn't exactly a slur
or anything, but it isn'texactly nice either me, my
husband jokingly call each otherFanon or Patties from time to
time if we've somethingparticularly Irish.
(35:39):
And I've never exactly viewed itas very offensive, but something
about this English boy made mesnap this poor guy.
Yeah, I asked him if he thoughtthat it was appropriate to say
things to his boss's partner andstarted shouting, telling him
he's way out of line, and if hewants to keep his job, he should
buck up.
(36:01):
I like that.
I'm gonna start saying that.
Buck up, buck up.
I left to cool down a bit andabout 30 minutes later got a
call from my husband beratingme, saying that Joe was crying
and that he's just a kid.
I do feel bad since he's young,but I still think he needed to
be knocked out a few steps.
Am I the, a-hole there is anupdate to this as well.
Meredith (36:22):
Okay.
I that's a tough one because at19, like they're old enough to
be working and an adult.
Stefanie (36:28):
Mm-hmm.
Meredith (36:29):
Um, I think there might have, could have been a
better way to do it than justhaving his, intermittent
explosive disorder like happen,come out.
Um, what do you think?
Stefanie (36:41):
Um, I think that the husband should have addressed
it.
Meredith (36:47):
Yeah.
If they're
Stefanie (36:48):
in a of business.
Slurs shouldn't be used, period.
Agreed.
and if the husband's the boss, Ithink he should have handled it.
Yeah.
but if he wasn't gonna handleit, maybe have been said nicer,
but Right.
I understand the frustrationthat he probably had.
(37:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he had reached his limit,with his, the husband not taken
a stand on anything, but let'sget to the update.
Okay.
Okay.
Because it's a good one.
Okay.
All right.
Update.
Joe is my husband's son.
Dude.
Didn't know his husband had ason.
Okay.
(37:30):
Oh, I won't go into too much,um, detail for both mine and
their pri privacy, but I had amajor fight with my husband
about why he was being solenient with him and why he
didn't have my back in this.
We were shouting back and forthuntil he shouted something about
blood being thicker than water.
I shouted back about him beingjust some boy and he stopped
(37:54):
suddenly.
Then he told me Joe is from anexisting ex-girlfriend of his,
who's now unable to take care ofhim.
So my husband picked him up.
He's been paying child supportfor years.
We have separate bank accounts,so I never noticed.
I'm contemplating separation anddivorce.
Someone I've known for 25 yearsbecame a stranger in 10 seconds.
(38:15):
I physically got sick thinkingback on those sexual remarks
that he made to his father.
My husband's always went whiteas a ghost when he said those
kinds of things, and that waspossibly the only thing that
actually gave him away.
But it still makes me feel sick.
All the same.
Sorry, I won't be responding tocomments.
I need to get my head rightpersonally.
Meredith (38:37):
So they've been together or they've known each
other 25 years.
Stefanie (38:41):
Yeah.
Meredith (38:41):
And the kid is 19.
Stefanie (38:43):
Yep.
Meredith (38:45):
It sounds like there's a lot of, uh, stuff that they
need to work through there.
Stefanie (38:49):
Holy moly.
Yeah.
Meredith (38:53):
I still stand on the, I'm a hundred percent with you
though now even more with the,that's his father and his boss.
He should have handled it.
He didn't wanna know who's topand bottom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He deserved a dressing down, asthey say.
Yeah.
That's not okay.
Stefanie (39:11):
No.
No.
Well, I don't think he's the,a-hole, and I feel even more so
now that he is not the, a-hole.
Meredith (39:21):
Right, right.
I hope he gets his stuff figuredout because that's, that's just
devastating.
Stefanie (39:26):
My God.
I don't know if I would've, Idon't know.
I.
I don't know.
Meredith (39:31):
I'm glad he is, using a throwaway
Stefanie (39:33):
anonymous account.
My God.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
That was intense.
Meredith (39:39):
Yeah.
Wow.
Poor dude.
Stefanie (39:43):
I was a little bit like, oh, okay.
Here we are.
Yeah,
Meredith (39:49):
yeah.
Oh, okay.
Alright, moving on.
Stefanie (39:52):
so if you're not a bookie and you don't wanna
listen to our review of Lake ofthe Lost Girls, now is your time
to leave.
Meredith (40:00):
Bye y'all.
We still love you.
We
Stefanie (40:01):
do still love you.
Please leave us a review.
Meredith (40:03):
Bye bye.
Okeydoke, do you have
Stefanie (40:07):
a blurb of a blurb?
I do.
Okay.
So we read Lake of the LostGirls by Catherine Green, so in
1998, college freshman, JessicaFaley vanishes and missed a
string of disappearances atSouthern State University.
Over two decades later, hersister Lindsey Reignites, the
search for answers driven by ahit true crime podcast in a
chilling discovery at a locallake as past and present
(40:31):
collide, the story explores thedark threads of sisterhood
secrets and society's obsessionwith true crime.
Meredith (40:38):
Okay.
Stefanie (40:39):
Did you like it?
Did, yes, I did too.
Meredith (40:42):
And I had read this before, but I did not remember.
And how, I did not remember theending.
I don't know because Wow.
but I.
But yeah, I really liked thisbook.
Stefanie (40:55):
Yeah.
I texted you.
I, I was like halfway throughand I'm like, is it actually
really good?
Meredith (40:59):
Yeah.
Thank goodness, because our luckwith books has been running
pretty poor lately.
Um, I had a lot of feelingsabout, about it though.
I felt so many things forLindsay.
Stefanie (41:14):
Same,
Meredith (41:15):
like sad and hurt and frustrated and angry and
Stefanie (41:23):
Yes.
All, I mean, you went through aroller coaster of emotions
through this book.
Yeah.
so it did give us dual,timelines.
Mm-hmm.
And different point of views.
Mm-hmm.
And I was able to keepeverything straight, which is
same.
And you know, I struggle.
Yes.
Not always the easiest, but Idefinitely kept everything
straight with this book, which.
Chef's kiss.
Meredith (41:43):
Yes,
Stefanie (41:45):
yes, yes.
Agreed.
I think that the family dynamicsobviously were weird, but I
think it was written so well.
and hitting on how likefavorites favorite children and
mm-hmm.
Um, how parents can u kinda usethat power Yeah.
Of a favorite child.
Yeah.
to either pin kids against eachother or parents against each
(42:07):
other.
Right.
So, um, I thought that was areally interesting, and it
wasn't like the main focus ofthe book, but Right.
I picked up on it.
Meredith (42:15):
Right.
Well, and you knew somethingwith the relationship between
Jess and the dad was off,
Stefanie (42:24):
and I thought it was going in a different direction.
Meredith (42:26):
A hundred percent.
And I feel like that's what theywanted you to think.
So you would be a hundredpercent.
Taken aback by the ending of it.
Um, which spoilers?
Let's go ahead and throw thatout there.
Yeah.
Because we know we're probablygonna have them.
So it was just really wellwritten the way that they lead
(42:46):
you to believe she led you tobelieve it was gonna be,
inappropriate relationshipbetween the father and daughter,
and it was not.
Stefanie (42:55):
Right.
Um, but he did haveinappropriate relationships with
other young people.
Meredith (42:59):
Yes.
Stefanie (43:00):
And she found out, and that
Meredith (43:02):
hypocrisy there when he has had multiple
relationships with girls.
Girls like teenage girls.
And then his daughter is messingaround with a professor and he's
like, no, that's not okay.
Stefanie (43:20):
Yeah.
I think it said that sheactually never went through with
it.
Meredith (43:24):
She didn't.
But still, still just thethought of.
The thought of her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stefanie (43:29):
I hated Ryan, the, the boyfriend.
Oh.
I hated
Meredith (43:34):
him.
So you wanted to like him andyou wanted Lindsay to have some
kind of a positive, partnerhelping her with this stuff.
And he ends up being just a bigjerk who had played her from the
beginning, but
Stefanie (43:49):
like, I gross, like you're trying to date your, your
missing slash dead girlfriend's.
Right.
Sister.
Like, Ew, like much, muchyounger than the sister.
Yes.
The whole thing was just weirdand it was gross.
There
Meredith (44:04):
wasn't lot ickiness.
Stefanie (44:05):
Yeah.
Meredith (44:06):
With a lot of the relationships.
Agreed.
Most of the relationships were,gross.
Stefanie (44:10):
Obviously, I didn't guess the ending.
But, so my thought on theending, and obviously we're
doing spoilers, we always do.
So if you didn't read it and youwanna read it, here's your coup
to leave.
Yeah.
But I thought that the dad wasmolesting whatever.
(44:30):
Yes.
People, yeah.
I thought that she was a victim,but like also when you said
like, young girls or like, youknow, barely legal or whatever.
Right.
so I thought that the dad, shewas helping the dad get rid of
the bodies.
Okay.
Because he said, if I'm goingdown, you're going down too.
Yeah.
And so that I was like, oh, wellmaybe she's helping him, like
(44:54):
hide the bodies.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I didn't really think it was,the boyfriend.
Right.
I never like, thought aboutthat.
Meredith (45:04):
I mean, they, they kind of.
He's kind of just in there aslike a wild card.
Mm-hmm.
Like, not really, not reallysaying he didn't do it, but
things could line up so that hedid.
Stefanie (45:16):
Yeah.
Meredith (45:16):
But I never thought he did either.
Stefanie (45:18):
Mm-hmm.
I, again, never in a millionyears would have came to the
conclusion of the ending of thebook.
Right.
Meredith (45:27):
They, they really, she really tried to steer you in the
direction of it being theprofessor.
Stefanie (45:31):
Yeah.
Meredith (45:32):
That's really what she wanted you to believe.
And, yeah.
Never in a million years, evenafter reading it before, what I
have guessed, how about the facton where Jess was found Ew.
Right.
Ew.
All day that dad got so manyissues.
(45:55):
Ew.
Yeah.
Like, I have
Stefanie (45:59):
Ew, ew.
To, to think about having beenthat close to a.
Yeah.
Porch for all that time.
Nobody ever went into like, likeI was a Snoopy kid.
Like, yeah.
There is no way that I wouldn'thave been like at some point in
time lifting up that,
Meredith (46:19):
well, what about the mom too?
Like remember they, they go intodetail about how there were,
what was it?
Squirrels or possum?
A dead possum.
And the smell, and they go intodetail about that.
So at the time when all thisstuff was happening with these
girls going missing or, and or,you know, you're not, I don't
(46:40):
know, I guess you see, we seewhat we wanna see.
Right?
Well,
Stefanie (46:44):
I assumed that the dad just like told her that that's
what it was like.
Yeah.
A
Meredith (46:52):
hundred percent.
Stefanie (46:53):
Yeah.
Um, I don't think that the momknew anything.
I think that the mom washorrible.
Yeah.
Like she had her own issues.
Yes.
Meredith (47:03):
Yeah, because she had the second daughter because she
wanted somebody to deliver liketheir relationship, which isn't
healthy.
Stefanie (47:09):
Yeah.
The whole thing was,
Meredith (47:11):
yeah.
It was twisted enough for me tolike it though.
I know.
Me too.
What would, what would you rateit?
I'd give it, I'd give it a nine.
Stefanie (47:20):
I, I was gonna go eight and a half, nine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really liked it and I did notguess the ending whatsoever.
Meredith (47:25):
No.
It was very well done with, alot of information, a lot of
going back and forth, notgetting lost.
The unpredictable, aspect of ittoo, and then just twisted
enough
Stefanie (47:39):
for us.
Yeah.
All right.
So the, the next book that weare going to attempt to read is
The Marsh King's Daughter byKaren Dion.
Mm-hmm.
I think that's how you pronounceit.
Yep.
Helena has a loving husband, twobeautiful daughters, and a
business that fills her days,but she also has a secret.
She is the product of anabduction.
(48:00):
Her mother was kidnapped as ateenager by her father and kept
in a remote cabin in themarshlands of Michigan's upper
peninsula.
Helena born two years after theabduction, loved her home in
nature, and despite her father'ssometimes brutal behavior, she
loved him too.
Until she learned precisely thathow savage he could be.
More than 20 years later, shehas buried her past so soundly
(48:21):
that even her husband doesn'tknow the truth.
But now her father has killedtwo guards, escaped from prison
and disappeared into the marsh.
The police begin a manhunt butHelena knows they don't stand.
A chance knows that only oneperson has the skills to find
the survivalist.
The world calls the Marsh kingbecause only one person was ever
trained by him, his daughter.
(48:43):
So it doesn't sound bad.
Meredith (48:44):
Sounds a little different with the, with the
Marcy and the track in
Stefanie (48:48):
Yeah.
Um, but we got the abduction.
We got yeah.
Some twisted stuff.
Meredith (48:54):
Babies being born.
Yeah.
I twisted enough for us to likeit, so fingers crossed.
Stefanie (49:01):
So, we will read that and get with that book next week
on the podcast.
Oh, we got a thumbs up.
Thumbs up.
Meredith (49:08):
Yep, we did.
I should have screenshottedthat.
I didn't think about it.
How does it happen?
I dunno.
Stefanie (49:17):
well thank you guys for listening.
We love you and please leave usa review five stars with a
fabulous little please.
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Meredith (49:25):
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Yes.
What's your favorite thing isabout us?
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Stefanie (49:33):
and we wanna be a sl.
Yeah, it's okay.
It's okay.
Go for it.
But thank you and we love y'all.
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Bye.
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Alright, that wraps up anotherepisode of, this is My Circus.
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