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Hosts: Stefanie Navarro & Meredith Hill
Run Time: ~60 min
Theme: Weird world records, pop culture deep dives, an uninvited stepmom scandal, and a chilling review of The Marsh King’s Daughter.

🎧 In This Episode:

It’s another wild week under the big top, and Stefanie and Meredith are bringing the chaos. From Guinness World Records that make you gag (43 snails on your face?!) to parrots swearing at tourists, the bizarre takes center stage. They also discuss what not to do on a Zoom call (hello, monitor gate), give their takes on the drama-filled wedding AITA post, and dive deep into The Marsh King’s Daughter—a gripping survivalist thriller with serious psychological twists.

💬 Topics Covered:

🖥️ Monitor Gate & Mansplaining Mayhem
– Meredith shares her tech support nightmare and the satisfying moment she proved she wasn’t “just being dramatic.”

🐾 Walking Disasters & Doorbell Cameras
– Rex drags Stefanie across the asphalt mid-walk. Spoiler: it was caught on camera, and her knees are paying the price.

📺 Watch List Picks:
1923, The Summer I Turned Pretty, The Stolen Girl, and Banshee
– Plus: a new obsession with a baby alpaca named Noodle.

🌍 World’s Weirdest Records:
– Eye-popping feats (literally), most feet sniffed (ew), and the least impressive M&M challenge of all time.

🦟 Flight from Hell:
– 90 minutes trapped on a mosquito-infested plane. We’re still itching.

🧠 AITA: Stepmom Uninvited from the Wedding?!
– A throwaway account with a heartbreaking twist: a groom sides with his bio mom… and tries to gaslight his stepmom out of the wedding.

📚 Book Club – The Marsh King’s Daughter by Karen Dionne
– Survival in the marsh. A daughter born of abduction. A predator on the run.
– The hosts unpack psychological trauma, moral ambiguity, and whether Helena’s emotional detachment is terrifying… or totally understandable.

📖 Next Week’s Read:
No One Can Know by Kate Alice Marshall – Sisters, secrets, and a cold case that won’t stay buried.

🧠 Quote of the Week:

“I could eat 22 M&Ms in one handful and call it a Tuesday. Where’s my world record?”
 — Stefanie, unimpressed by snack-based records

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(00:00):
Welcome to, this is my circus,the podcast where we embrace the
chaos and keep it real aboutparenting, pop culture, true
crime, and the books we can'tput down because let's be
honest, life is one big circusand we're just trying to survive
with caffeine, sarcasm, and alittle true crime obsession.
So if you love unfilteredconversation, questionable
parenting hacks, and deep divesinto the things that keep us up

(00:21):
at night, you're in the rightplace.
Buckle up, grab your popcorn,and let's get into the chaos.
I'm Stephanie.
I'm Meredith.
And welcome to, this is mycircus.
Did you like that?
I felt like you're a littledummy and you were the
ventriloquist and I was sayingit with you.
Sorry.
Was I moving my lip?
No, I was, you were saying it Idon't know why I did it.
You know, when Dylan was littleand I would feed him and I

(00:42):
thought you said Beat him.
Beat him.
I would take the spoon and Iwould open my mouth.
I'd be like, oh, absolutely.
And Brandon would laugh at me.
He'd be like, why do you dothat?
I'm like, I don't know.
I don't know either.
I think it's like trying tomentally tell him to open his
mouth.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
A hundred percent.
When I'm helping Ashley with theweddings and she tells everybody

(01:03):
to smile or whatever, I do it.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
And then she has some where shehas people turn around and she's
like taking pictures of theirbacks while they're, looking at
each other and stuff.
And I'm like, make sure you'resmiling.
And they're like, we were, yeah.
I'm like, yeah, I know.
I think it's just, our brainsare just wired to do certain
things, I think.
Yeah.
Yep.
So have you been I've been Okay.

(01:23):
I've been so freaking busy.
Yeah.
So I've been doing contractwork, but they hired me on full
time.
Oh, congratulations.
Yeah.
I'm very excited about that.
Mm-hmm.
Vacation time is, is a hugething.
Yeah so started that this week.
Still trying to catch up frombeing.
Off a couple days last week,even though I worked, while I
was down at the beach, some Iwasn't in my environment.
I felt a little off.
Right.
so just still trying to catch upand do all the things.

(01:47):
They sent me two monitors so Idon't have to use my old one
anymore.
Good use there.
So just spent time trying toorganize that and get that
together.
But listen to this, uh, oh,listen to, I had to put up
straight.
Y'all.
She like shifted her whole bodyto like straight Yes.
A story.
Yes.
This is a story.
So, they send you all themonitors, nothing's put

(02:08):
together, like the cords arejust bundled and that's okay.
Like I can figure out how to doit.
The monitors have like an armand then a base.
Mm-hmm.
And then, you know, that basegoes on the thing and then it
connects to the whatever.
You're smart too.
You can figure out, right?
Yeah.
So I got the first one puttogether.
I clicked the little arm in andthen I took the screwdriver and
I put the screws on the bottom,perfect cord's plugged in,

(02:30):
works, it's great.
The next one I went same exactmonitor and the one side of the
base looks the same, but whenyou actually flip'em over,
they're look just enoughdifferent that like the screw
holes don't align and, and thatkind of thing.
So I even gave it to Brian, Iwas like, look, am I, can you
just give this a once over andmake sure I'm not losing my
mind?
You know, don't like goingthrough the hassle of calling

(02:52):
support for anything.
Um, let alone I can't screw thisin.
He is like, no.
He said, I can make it work ifwe need to, I was like, I'll
just call.
Yeah, it's their stuff.
They should be able to just sendme a new one or tell me what to
do.
Like I don't, whatever.
So.
I called today, put in a supportticket.
'cause you know, that's theprocess with these things.
Mm-hmm.
And I got a ping today.

(03:12):
Hey Meredith, did you get yourmonitor figured out?
And I said, well, the monitorworks.
'cause I had plugged in andtested that.
I said, but the base does notfit properly.
His response was like, huh,that's interesting.
And I'm like, yep.
And he's like, okay, well canyou send me a picture of them?
Sure.

(03:32):
So I send a picture of.
Monitor one that, that works,that's connected and it's got
like eight holes around it.
Mm-hmm.
And, go to send his the secondpicture.
I'm like, this is the one thatdoesn't work.
There's only four holes.
That's self explanatory.
Yeah.
In my mind.
So he's like, oh, that'sinteresting.
Are you sure it doesn't fit?

(03:54):
I didn't try.
Yeah.
I, yeah, a hundred, a hundredpercent sure.
And it didn't fit.
Are the arms the same?
And I had had the same thoughts,so I was like, yes they are.
I looked and he was like, canyou send me a picture of the
bottoms of'em?
And I was like, well, the onealready has the, um, base on it.
Yeah.
And he was like, can you take itoff?

(04:15):
And those screws are so tiny,like it's just a pain in the
butt.
So I'm like, yeah, no problem.
So I do that.
I send'em to him.
Obviously different.
He's like, okay.
And he's like, I've got someright here.
And he sends me pictures of thestance in his office in Ohio or
wherever he is.
And I'm like, cool.
Good for you.

(04:37):
I'm glad yours work.
Yours probably work mine don'tattach.
And I just felt like he wasmansplaining.
Yeah.
You know?
And I was like, dude, I canscrew something together.
So he kept giving me a hard timeand he was like, can you take
the two bases, stack them on topof each other and compare and
make sure the holes are aligned.

(04:57):
So of course I'm like Wsan forevery, I was like, I can do
that.
But the point is that the onebase still won't fit on the arm.
Something is wrong.
He's like, okay, well do that.
So while I'm in the process ofWsan and trying to get to this,
he pings me back.
And he is like, oh, I justlearned something new today.

(05:18):
He said, basically this,whatever this HP monitor is,
there's two different standsthat can go up to arms and
stands.
So how are we fixing it?
So then I'm like, okay, cool.
So can you send me another oneand what do I do with this one?
And he was like, yeah, we'llsend you another one.
Oh, that is so frustrating.
It was so frustrating.
And I finally ended up sayingand I was trying to avoid saying
it, but I was finally like, myhusband tried to put it

(05:39):
together, you know, I had a manhelp me.
Yeah.
I had a man with a screwdrivertrying to help me.
Um, oh man.
You brought out the steel.
I sure did.
I sure did.
so anyway, that's kind of been,mm-hmm.
I'm in like that.
I don't know.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Well, I was, walking Rexyesterday and I'm probably in
somebody's ring doorbell camera.

(06:01):
What happened?
looking like a complete cuckoobird.
we were walking and there is agirl, um, maybe 10 mm-hmm.
Was walking her little white,fluffy, poof ball.
Mm-hmm.
And the dog started going crazyat Rex.
Of course.
It's those small do I know.
And we were on the opposite sideof the road.
Mm-hmm.
So Rex normally doesn't evenlike bark in the back.

(06:22):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he just kept lunging, likeon the leash.
Mm-hmm.
And so Rex started barking and Iwas like, no.
And I put him on the other sideof me.
so he is on the opposite sidemm-hmm.
Of like where the other peoplewere being a responsible pet
owner.
She's stopped walking and I'mlike, go.
Right.
This one's harder to controlthan how go.
Right, right, right.
So she stops walking.

(06:42):
The dog is like lunging at likeacross the street, so nowhere
near Rex, but like lunging athim.
And so he finally had had enoughand because of I was facing the
other direction, he like spun mearound.
Mm-hmm.
And I tripped while I wasspinning into like onto the
asphalt and he was still going,so he pulled me like a foot.
Oh.

(07:04):
So my knee is swollen and like,look how, oh, it is very
swollen.
You definitely need to ice that.
scrape my elbow scraped.
I got like, my whole side isbruised, and then the poor girl,
after like all of that shefinally picks up the dog and
she's like, are you okay?
I'm like, yes.
You couldn't have done that fiveminutes ago.

(07:26):
So, oh my gosh, step.
I'm so sorry.
It's all good.
It happens.
Make sure you ice it.
Yeah.
Though.
Yeah, it was, I thought that isvery swollen.
Yeah.
Um, do they have a prom atDillon School?
They do, but he didn't wanna go.
He didn't wanna go.
Mm-hmm.
He's not like a, I know he'salready like, mentally, I think,
moved on.
Mm-hmm.
I get it.
He said Ruthie wants to go nextyear, so he'll go'cause Ruthie

(07:48):
wants to go.
Yeah.
So, okay.
Gotcha.
Hopefully they're stilltogether, you know, as kids.
I know.
You know, I know.
Just never know.
But never know adults.
You never know.
Amen.
My God.
exhibit A, so I met this girlthe other day.

(08:08):
I went to get my hair cut.
Mm-hmm.
And I heard, so the lady, one ofthe salon people, hairstylist
was talking to somebody else.
I know words are not my friendsometimes.
And she was like, well, are yougonna get to go home?
And she was like, well, how longof a flight is that?
And da da da da.
And, and I was likeactuallywaiting for my roots to be
covered up.
So I was processing and I waslike, I'm sorry.

(08:31):
Where, where are you from?
Because I heard a little bit ofan accent.
Mm-hmm.
And you know, I was all, she wasfrom Denmark.
I've never met anybody fromDenmark before, so, you know, so
then she was actually gettingher hair colored too.
So we were both kind ofprocessing at the same time.
Mm-hmm.
So, of course I know all aboutDenmark.
I follow her on Instagram now.
I was like, please don't blockme.

(08:51):
So she moved here and she wasgoing to Wingett College.
Mm-hmm.
She's been here for four years.
Mm-hmm.
Playing soccer.
Okay.
And, listen to this, her, goalis, so she, got a degree in
sports management maybe, but shewants to do more university when
she goes home in, um, sportspsychology.
And I was like, what is that?
She was saying that it's too.

(09:14):
Be like a mentor to like eliteathletes to help them like be
placed almost like an agentslash psychologist slash
counselor.
Like all those things.
Isn't that a cool thing though?
I didn't know that was a thing.
She said it's not really heremuch, but it's there.
But we don't value mental healthhere.
We do not.
We do not get out the hair.

(09:34):
So anyway, we had hugeconversations about everything.
She was so kind.
Her name is Sophia, she's my BFFin Denmark now.
so she's graduating from Wingget and I told her that, I was a
podcast person, so I would sayhello and send it to her.
So, I'll have to send her thelink when the show drops so she
can start to follow us.
Fun.
But yeah.

(09:55):
Oh, it, it'll be another littlecountry I know.
Clicked off the world map.
So our friend from Australia, mynew friend from Australia
listened to one, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Or something.
So yeah, we're, we're trying toget all the nce Let's do this.
People, I know they, I know weneed, we need Asia.
As long as they know howunderstand English.
Yeah.
I'm not up to, to learning.
No.

(10:16):
I need them to understand ourEnglish too.
Oh God.
Yeah.
It's a whole nother ball game.
It is, it is.
It is.
Um, have you watched anythingnew lately?
Oh my gosh, yes.
So, on one hand I'm yellingabout how busy I am, and on the
other hand, I'm staying up till2:00 AM to binge watch a show.

(10:37):
What show?
So we're both Yellowstone fans?
Yes.
1923.
I have not watched it.
So I had watched the 1883 and Ireally liked it.
Mm-hmm.
I had tried to watch 1923before, was not a fan, couldn't
get into it.
It's like, can let me give itanother go?
Oh my gosh.

(10:58):
All the feelings, all theemotions, all the things not a
feel good show.
It's drama mm-hmm.
If you like the other ones, oneor the other.
Yeah.
Try it.
It's good.
Mm-hmm.
Um, once you get into it, it is,um.
But I did see that the summer Iturned pretty.
Mm-hmm.
There's another season comingout.

(11:20):
I still haven't watched thateither.
My gosh.
I love that.
Um, how about you?
Have you been watching anything?
Yeah.
So there's a new series on Huluand there's only two episodes
out right now.
Okay.
So, if you're trying to binge,that's not the show at the
start.
I obviously need something witha one episode a week because I
will just Yeah.
Sit there and, yeah.
it's called The Stolen Girl.
Okay.
I really like it.

(11:40):
I just took a little blurb.
Yeah.
from Hulu, a seemingly ordinarydecision turns the world of
Elisa mom of two young kidsupside down when her daughter
Lucia asks to go to a sleepoverat her new best friend Josie's
house.
Elisa agrees after meetingJosie's mother, Rebecca.
She's put at ease by hercharming nature and their

(12:00):
impressive house.
But when she says goodnight toher daughter, she has no idea
she's about to be thrust intoevery parent's worst nightmare.
Which was like, I mean, didJackson like to sleep over
people's houses?
Some people, only Jasmine,pretty much.
That was like the, on that wasit.
He never really asked to go to alot.
He would spend the night at hisgrandparents and then go to the

(12:21):
plumbers.
Okay.
Oh, oh.
And the Davidsons.
Mm-hmm.
But yeah, that was really it.
Now, now who he kind of Yeah.
Is different.
How about Dylan?
Did he, Dylan?
Oh, he really just like, mostlyTyler's house.
Yeah.
He still really Right.
That's the only other place helives.
Yeah.
But yeah, that's about it.
But just like random people,Dylan would ask to sleep at a
random kid's house.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Yeah.

(12:41):
No Uhuh.
Mm-hmm.
No.
Yeah.
No.
They, they can come here.
Absolutely.
I don't know.
I know, I get it.
So this is the show that, enactsall of your fears.
Okay.
You know, abduction, all thethings.
Yeah.
And then like you get into thebackstory of why this woman?
Mm-hmm.
Oh my gosh.

(13:01):
So good.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
My haircut girl was telling meabout another show that's on
Netflix and I'll think of thename of it in a minute.
Something Canyon.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
She said it's like Yellowstoneand something else kind of mixed
together.
She said it was a good one.
Ransom Canyon.
Yes.
Yeah.
Have you watched it?
I have not, but it's on my, it'son your, my list.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(13:22):
I have started a new show onMax.
Okay.
And because I saw arecommendation on social media
somewhere.
Mm-hmm.
Um, for like binge worthy shows.
Yeah.
It is called Banshee.
Okay.
And it is almost like a crossbetween, sunset Anarchy mm-hmm.
And Yellowstone.
Wow.
Okay.
it's not like motorcycle gangs,but you got that feel Okay.

(13:44):
like the gritty, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
but then you still have like,there's like casinos stuff going
on.
Okay.
And they've got all sorts ofOkay.
Yeah.
It's good.
Good.
I'll try that one out.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I don't have Max.
I can do a free trial.
Um, so as I was doom scrollingYes.
Because, you know mm-hmm.

(14:05):
I know that I don't sleep.
I saw this picture of this manand his eyes were literally like
bugged out of his head.
So I'm like, what the heck isthis?
And it was a Guinness Book ofWorld Records.
Okay.
So there was a weird.
Yes.
Records in that.
Yes, oh my gosh, I used to justpour through it and look at it.
It's bananas.
Mm-hmm.
So, the news article, said thathe made the, the book because he

(14:27):
can pop his eyes out of itssocket 0.74 inches gross.
Before that, it was a woman whocould do like 0.42 inches.
I don't even know how you can dothat.
No.
So his name is William MartinSanchez Lopez, and he legit
looks like a human cartooncharacter when they are
surprised.
I'm wondering where they measurefrom, like how much is extended,

(14:50):
I would assume.
Yeah.
So, you know, I have abackground in ophthalmology, so
eye stuff is fascinating to meand I really do not understand
how that No, I, how that works.
so I was like, okay, I.
This is weird.
Mm-hmm.
I then went in deeper uhhuh andthe longest time somebody held

(15:10):
their breath voluntarily.
Take a wild guess.
Two minutes, 24 minutes and 37seconds.
How are they alive?
Tell me how they're alive.
And they didn't held theirbreath.
I can't, I can't tell you thatbecause there's no way it was a
Croatian, guy.
I'm not even gonna try his name.
I'm sorry.
Try it.
Um, bud but mirror.

(15:31):
Okay.
Sobe.
That's, that's perfect.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
24 minutes, 20 minutes, 37.36seconds.
How do you not loseconsciousness he had to be, he
was cheating.
Like he was like breathingthrough.
He had to, I wonder how they,they probably put like a mirror
underneath.
Maybe they tape it, maybe theyput a clothes pin on it.

(15:53):
That's crazy.
Was there, you got another crazyone?
Yeah.
Most snails on the face.
First of all, why?
Why was no most snails on theface?
No.
Guess how many it was a child?
oh, Ben Keller, age 11 fromSandy, Utah.
Guess how many he had on hisface?
143.
43?
Cool.
Live snails on your face?
I do not.
Then I'm like, are they like thelittle snails or the big sna?

(16:15):
Like, and how is that measured?
Right.
So snails come in a lot ofdifferent sizes.
Yeah.
So are they the any bitty tinylittle like little teen tiny
ones that I find in the backyardor the snails?
Like s cargo?
Yeah.
But I don't know.
Snails gross me out.
Me too.
Like the slimy.
Oh, you have all the slime mucusall over your face.

(16:36):
Oh my gosh.
That's supposed to be good foryour face.
I know, but I don't wanna Oh, myface.
No.
Yeah, snails a gross me outthough.
Yeah.
I, no, no, I'm good on that.
Mm-hmm.
Um, all right.
This is a gross one too.
And why you would volunteer?
why, why would you do thisvoluntarily, most feet and
armpits sniffed?

(16:56):
Who would volunteer to do that?
Right.
Uh, I mean, a hundred.
no, Uhuh.
Hold on.
So this was done by MadelineArb, who was employed at Hilltop
Research Laboratories inCincinnati, Ohio, which is a
testing lab.
she has sniffed approximately5,600 feet and feet, an

(17:21):
indeterminate number of armpits.
Does she like it?
I, I don't know.
I didn't ask her.
You know, why would you dopeople like stinky things
sometimes.
I know.
There's a whole market to sellyour stuff on there.
It little.
I know.
all right.
So this one, I just thought itwas funny because you always

(17:41):
talk about my height, shortness.
I just think you're so preciousand adorable.
Let's get this.
Okay.
Longest legs on the person.
How long do you think they are?
Oh.
Six feet, feet.
Um, I don't know if that'sridiculous.
The longest legs in the worldbelong to Macy Curran.
she's from the USA and theymeasure at 53.255 inches.

(18:07):
I am, I I am 62 inches, 62.5.
Her legs are the almost, theycome to like your shoulder.
They're almost my whole body.
Yeah.
I'm surprised that's a woman.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I don't assume anymore.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, you're right, you'reright.
that's crazy.
How tall is the person if theirlegs are five feet, almost five

(18:31):
feet?
Yeah.
Well, I said they're, um, theywere six feet.
Think how ridiculous that wouldlook.
Mm-hmm.
Nothing but legs and torso orlegs in the head.
Whatever.
Tell me why we do this again,because I can't speak.
It's like the monster.
Monster, yes.
Just legs.
Yes.
But yes.
There you go.

(18:52):
There you go.
I used to love looking at theGuinness Book of World Records,
though.
We would That's some weird No.
Like in the very front, therewould always be like the tallest
per, and some of it would havepictures.
Mm-hmm.
And that what was, so that wasso fascinating to me with like
the tallest person, the shortestperson, and then the longest
fingernails when they curled.
Oh, oh yeah.

(19:12):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
well, here's one I think that wecould probably actually
accomplish.
Okay.
And I'm shocked that it's such alow number.
most smarties and m and Ms.
Eaten in one minute whileblindfolded.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know what their numberis, but we could do more.
22.
That doesn't seem that much.

(19:33):
And it, I could eat 22 in onehandful.
That's easy peasy.
I don't wanna be in therethough.
I don't want people knowing me.
No, not for that.
Would you wanna do that?
You'd wanna do the sweetheartswith me or m ms?
I don't know.
Wait, it's not at the same time?
No, no, no, no.
It's like either or.

(19:53):
I think either or.
Okay.
I think because they're aboutthe same size.
Yeah.
But the smart are kind ofchalky.
Yeah.
So I think that would make mecough.
I try.
Yeah.
I just fall whole.
Yeah.
Just chase them.
Mm-hmm.
Weird.
Like I really think I could fit22 in my hand mm-hmm.
And throw'em back.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And just be done.

(20:13):
Yep.
But again, I'm good.
I don't wanna be in the, in thebook.
Some of the people with some ofthese things.
I don't, I would not wanna beknown for these things.
Oh, sniffing armpit.
Do you armpit sniffer her, herlife achievement?
Yeah.
Like what?
That's just crazy to me.
Me too.
I don't know why this justpopped in my head, but did I

(20:34):
tell you that before we went tothe beach, Brian and I were on a
golf cart ride and we went pastthis little farm near us.
Did I tell you this?
You sent me the pictures.
So there's a street behind usand we always drive by and look.
They've got pigs and chickensand some alpacas out there and
goats like all the fun things.
Well, it's called Happy hoovesand Feathers.
Mm-hmm.
Her son is on the autismspectrum.

(20:57):
And so it's trying to helpchildren with, different
situations that need somedifferent simulations.
Right.
so anyway, she was like, do youwanna come and look?
And she's like, this I in a 5 01 C3.
And she was, you know, justtalking about that.
Baby ia.
The cutest thing.
It was like, you remember Llama,llama Red Pajama?
It looked like that.

(21:18):
It did.
It was the cutest thing in theworld.
Its name is Noodle.
And I gotta pet him.
I pet him.
And like she was like, you canpet him.
She was like, he likes it.
On his neck.
And I was like, well his neck isthis long.
I was like, which part of it?
She was like, yep.
Kind of nears chest.
So I did it and then he likeclicked his heels and ran away
and I was like, that's adorable.
And then he came back, like hisface, he doesn't look real.

(21:38):
Mm-hmm.
He looked like a stuffed animal.
Yeah.
Um, so.
I'm in love.
Mm-hmm.
And I'll be going back.
I'll either be making, some kindof a donation or volunteering my
time to help at this farm.
I can cuddle noodle.
Does Noodle need to cuddle?
she mentioned she was gettingminiature cows.

(22:00):
No, right now.
Not the highland cows, but justthe little dude.
They get the zoomies.
Can we do a field trip, right?
A hundred percent.
Cutest little thing.
Yeah.
I was like, Stephanie will solove this.
Yeah.
All of the animal things, itlooked like Lama llama red
pajama little eyelashes and justlooking at me like, and his face

(22:20):
was like velvet.
Oh my gosh.
A good kidnapped Moodle and thatname.
I know.
Gosh.
Well, speaking of.
Field trips.
Yeah.
Once we finally make it to NewOrleans, yes.
I just heard a very good tipfrom witch talk.
Okay.
Not witch talk, but I mean, itwas like in my feed.
it was like New Orleanssomething.

(22:42):
Okay.
Um, but don't let anybody, andthis is for anybody that is
traveling to a high known placeof other things, Uhhuh, don't
let anybody bump elbows with youor like rub your elbow because
there is a belief that the elbowis a hinge and can I guess

(23:04):
switch fates or whatever.
So is that why they say like,rubbing elbows, Uhhuh.
That is wild.
If you do,'cause they'll be liketrying to get you to buy
something or do a good readingfor you or something and they'll
try to rub their elbows withyou.
And if they do that, thenwhatever your fate or your

(23:25):
destiny is can transfer to thatperson and then you'll start
having their bad luck or theirbad, whatever misconception,
whatever.
Yeah.
And they said doesn'tnecessarily bam hit you.
Right?
just things start going not yourway yeah.
Wow.
Mm-hmm.
Who would've thought the elbow?
I know.
I don't know.
I was like, oof.

(23:45):
You've heard that saying though,the rubbing elbows was important
people or whatever.
I'm gonna go rub people's cellposts.
that is crazy stuff.
I know.
I hadn't heard that.
Yeah, me either.
I have had a lot of randomthings on my feeds.
Mm-hmm.
Not totally random becauseanimals, tortoises are, are all
over.
There's like a whole tortoisething.

(24:06):
Well, they're endangered, aren'tthey?
I really don't know as manypeople that have'em and are on
these pages.
I don't think they, do you eversee them when they go through a
wall?
They're huge.
This woman had one yesterday andthey had to build a retaining
wall, like a cinder block walland then wrought iron.
What's the, like the fencearound the top of the wall,

(24:27):
whatever, iron bars.
Okay.
Maybe bars was, the word,doesn't matter.
Lock focus, lock in.
But their tortoise weighed like80 pounds and she would just
like bend it and plow throughit.
Mm-hmm.
But this is adorable.
The ones that are small, or ifthey've got like a big roaming
area, they'll put air tags on'emso they don't get lost so they

(24:51):
can find them.
There's like some kind ofadhesive that it is sold that
doesn't hurt them.
And, and it'll, they'll tell youwhere to put them.
So it's not like on the platesYeah.
Or whatever.
And then I saw one with like a,do you remember a Kosh ball?
Uhhuh?
Like, like a kosh ball somehowon top of it.
Like, I dunno.

(25:12):
But but the things that I justYeah.
Find myself doing.
But I've seen the videos theyare in the house and mm-hmm.
They built like literallymm-hmm.
Go through a wall.
They are so big.
Yeah.
And you don't find out thegender until like, they're like
three to five years old until,and they live forever.

(25:33):
Yeah.
Like, do you will that tosomebody?
You would have to, it's like aparrot, right.
Parents live forever.
Did you see, speaking of parrotsmm-hmm.
There was a zoo that they had,taken in by parrots that they
were all together.
Because the owner died.
But I know what you're gonnasay.

(25:55):
They swore all the time and theywould make fun of people.
They had to quarantine them.
They, well, they had to separatethem so they wouldn't encourage
each other.
They were like the road ferretday peanut gallery.
Yes.
And they had to put up signs,telling people, caution.
If you have small children, theparrots will swear at you.
I did not see that much detailabout it.

(26:17):
I just saw like the picture andit was like parrots were
swearing and had to be whatever.
Yeah.
oh my gosh.
That is crazy.
Yeah.
What were they like roastingpeople?
That's a feel I got from thearticle.
It didn't have specifics, but,somebody in the comment section
said that they had gone to thatzoo and they said it was
hysterical and they, legit knewevery swear word ever.

(26:37):
Oh my gosh.
Gosh.
That is so funny.
That is hilarious.
I'll, I'll take one.
So this is kind of funny.
China, is on the petty Bettylevel.
Uhhuh, did you see that Theymade with all this tariff stuff
going on, Uhhuh the, DonaldTrump toilet bowl brush?

(27:00):
No.
they made his hair, the bristlesmm-hmm.
Of the T pole brush.
And then he, he's in alldifferent poses.
Mm-hmm.
And you can either get it in ablack suit or a blue suit.
That is funny.
They're gonna sell a lot ofthose.
I thought it was hysterical.
You know, if it's petty right?
Oh gosh.
Yeah.
I'm, I'm here for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that is funny.
I thought so too.

(27:20):
Um, this would be pure torture.
Torture for me.
When you go outside, do you getbit by bugs?
A lot.
Oh yeah.
So I can walk outside mm-hmm.
For 30 seconds and I'll havebutt bites.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whatever blood I have, they loveit.
I was gonna say, they said it'sblood type.
I'm own negative, which is like,not.

(27:40):
Very common.
I am too.
Are you?
I'm the one that can give toEverybody.
And I Yeah, me too.
And I can only get Oh, anegative.
Oh, oh girl.
I got you.
I got you.
Wow.
well that makes sense then weboth get Yeah.
Well that was the end of thatstory but I do get bit by a lot
of bugs.
It's awful.
Brandon never got bit by bugs.

(28:01):
Mm-hmm.
And I get welts, mm-hmm.
I'm like, well that's becauseI'm sweet in your sour mean.
all right.
Imagine you're on a flight.
Mm-hmm.
And this flight was going, fromone place to another in India.
Mm-hmm.
And it was the day after Easter.
Okay.
It was invaded by mosquitoes andthe people on that flight had to
sit for 90 minutes getting bitby mosquitoes.

(28:24):
that just makes me want to cry.
And the flight staff couldn't doanything other than like, offer
lemongrass, like an oil orsomething to the term.
Yeah.
I wonder how it got invested thearticle said that there was like
an open, like window.
They got in.
Oh, that would be miserable.
Right.
So they didn't look like theywere little tiny, like, like the

(28:44):
little mosquitoes.
They were like big mosquitoes.
Yeah.
when I was in elementary school,there was a field trip that some
of the Smarty Pants kids we gotto go on that would not have
been invited.
And it was a few days.
it was overnight thing we wentto.
The coast, and I don't remembermuch about it, obviously.

(29:05):
I was like barely on the cusp ofmaking it into the smaller
classes.
That's not true.
so, but you did all, all thethings like you found out about
the history and naturalresources and whatever.
Well, one of the things is theytold you bring bug spray.
Mosquitoes are terrible.
Yeah.
I did, but I didn't think Ineeded it.
I mean, I was like a nine or10-year-old girl.

(29:26):
I came back and my legs were Imean just, yeah.
Yeah.
I got bit by a spider mm-hmm.
While I was like sitting in thegrass, um, at Dylan's lacrosse
practice.
And I had wrecks with me so Iwasn't sitting on the bleachers
mm-hmm.
In the grass with him.
And I got bit on my butt by aspider Brandon was like, I don't

(29:50):
know if it's like the flesheating spider because it was, it
wouldn't go away.
It was, it was like a good fouror five months that it was like
a knot.
Yeah.
Do you want me to check it andsee if it's gone?
It's gone out.
This is like, are you sure?
Let me check.
I'm just kidding.
You can see the bruise that's onthe other cheek.
I saw that one.
Yeah.

(30:10):
Yeah.
They're crazy.
You know what else?
And this is my own fault becauseI don't pay attention like I
should.
Surprise, surprise.
Mm-hmm.
I always get fire ants.
And our property.
We've got'em.
'cause it's like, it's a field.
we've got them everywhere we'llput some stuff out on'em.
But it's, I mean, there's somuch space that we're in.
It's hard to.
Do you ever get the cow killersin your yard?

(30:30):
I had before.
Those are freaking scary.
They're kind of pretty though.
They're No, they are not.
I think they're, I see them.
I run You're they're you'retalking about like the red
velvet?
Yeah, the black stripe uhhuh.
Oh.
I mean, I run too and I killthem, but it'll take down a cow.
I will die.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(30:50):
But I read that it's likewingless hornets yeah.
No, thank you.
I wonder why there's so manydifferent types of bugs in this
world.
Why are they all on South Girls?
Why, what?
The first year we were here, inour yard, was one of those like
horned beetles.
Mm-hmm.
And I didn't think that thosewere real.
I thought it was just like the,and I thought it was just like

(31:12):
the bugs life.
Know, like I would anyone in thewild and they shed, oh, I don't
wanna know about that.
Okay.
I saw it and I was like, that'sa real thing as you ran the
other way.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Don't bug me.
Well, you know, I don't docreepy griess.
Yeah.
And I don't do like frogs andlizards and all the things.
Frog's gross.

(31:32):
You know, I used to play withthem and do hold'em when I was
little, like, but they're sogross to me now.
Well, we were playing in Dylan'sSandbox when he was like four.
Mm-hmm.
Whatever.
It was like a scene at a toystory at the end, like the
toy's, like coming outta thesand and it was a, a, a frog.
Just like started, like comingout from under the sand.
Oh, that would creep me.

(31:53):
Well, I first thought it was asnake, and I grabbed Dylan Uhhuh
and jumped out of the sandbox.
and then I realized it was afrog and I still didn't wanna
get back in, but I wasn't askingscared.
I mean, they're not gonna biteyou, but that's gross.
Awful.
Disgusting when they likeclinging to your windows.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Yeah.
They're just like looking in atyou.

(32:15):
We do have some of those brightgreen tree frogs.
Is that what you're talkingabout?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm good.
No, thank you.
No thanks.
I'm fine.
No Uhuh.
We're good.
um, we talked about, Disney.
Oh yeah.
Um, mental health.
That was last week.
Yeah.
Evaluation.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know how I getsigned up to these things and
I'm sure I probably put my emailsomewhere, but I don't know how

(32:36):
I get these emails every day.
This one is like weird but truestuff it always has lists on it.
Uhhuh.
today I open it up and it wasDisney villain fan theories, and
I love villains.
I've heard that before.
So I was like, Ooh, I amintrigued.
I love these lists that theyhave.
See until I start reading themand then all of a sudden I get

(32:58):
towards the end and it's likeall the popups and I'm like, ah,
forget it.
Yeah.
Or you have to click through.
Oh yes.
Those annoy me too.
A hundred percent.
Do you wanna hear some?
Oh, absolutely.
I only grabbed a couple of them.
Okay.
so Lady Tremaine fromCinderella.
Mm-hmm.
The theory is she's a blackwidow.
Oh yeah.
So it says, when the movieCinderella began, the young

(33:19):
girl's dad seemed perfectlyhealthy.
Shortly after he married LadyJermaine, he drops dead.
This seems a bit too convenientfor a single mother of two
girls.
So it stands to reason the deathwasn't as sudden and unexpected
as it appeared and what happenedto their father.
It makes more and more sensewhen you think about it.

(33:40):
Where was Anastasia and Elle'sfather?
He must have died sometime inthe past, but maybe just, maybe
he was the first victim.
I never knew her name Germane.
I've heard it, but I wouldn'thave been able to tell you.
Like when you said the girl'snames, I was like, oh yeah,
that's, that makes sense.
But yeah, never heard that.
But that I follow a hundredpercent.

(34:00):
I have a black widow in myfamily.
No, I will find all thatdocumentation and get it
together and we'll talk aboutit.
What I know, I can't believeI've never told you this.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I need details.
Yeah.
Well, until we get that.
Yeah.
Sorry for that little bomb drop.
Where was I?

(34:22):
Maleficent assisted Aurora'smother to birth her and says,
there's clearly a problembetween the people in the palace
and Maleficent.
When the sorcerers appears atthe celebration of Aurora's
birth in sleeping beauty, it'sapparent by the way, everyone
stares at her in horror.
Everyone except the queen, thequeen had a more nervous
expression.
And this theory attempts toexplain why she alone reacted

(34:44):
that way.
Maleficent may not have beeninvited, but she had a lot to do
with the child's birth.
And there are a few reasons whythis is plausible.
It states at the movie's introthat the king and queen had
difficulty getting pregnant.
Mm-hmm.
So it stands to reason that thequeen might have turned to magic
for help.
She turned to Maleficent andpromised to acknowledge her in
the court once the child wasborn.

(35:05):
But in the end she went back onher word and that's why
Maleficent was so angry.
Yeah.
These are fascinating.
I know, and it makes sense.
Uhhuh, yeah, those are cool.
Guest on is a representation ofwhat the beast would've been if
he had not never gotten turnedinto a beast, which I could see,
you know, okay, this is gonnasound really weird, but I feel

(35:26):
like subconsciously I kind ofknew that, like I don't think
anybody ever told me that, but Ifeel like I.
Nevermind.
I'm trying to pretend like I'mreally intuitive and I'm not.
When I watch a movie like Iwatch it like at Face Value, I
don't think that deep hundredpercent.
A hundred percent.
That's why I'm like, everyoneknows guest Don is a jerk that's
made clear the minute he'sintroduced in Beauty in the

(35:48):
Beast.
But what if there is more thanthat?
This theory suggests that gueston is more than a village jerk.
He's a representation of whatthe beast would've become had he
never been turned into theHarrier version of himself.
Unfortunately, we have to callthe beast.
The beast, whether it's thehuman version or otherwise, as
he has no other name in themovie.
Despite this, he was once a manand he was a callous jerk.

(36:11):
Just like guest on the theoryoffers four points to this fact.
They both have blue eyes.
They can both afford as manyeggs as they want.
They're narcissists.
Whoa.
In this day and age, that'scrazy.
They're narcissists who, are allabout their physical appearance.
And when guest on died, a partof the beast died as well.

(36:32):
Huh, interesting.
This one I've heard before.
Okay.
That Sid from Toy Story becamethe garbage van.
you've never heard this?
I, no.
I feel like I have.
cause he had the toy strap tothe front of the truck.
yeah.
It took me a minute to think Iwas thinking, Sid, this loft.
So it took me a minute to putall my eggs in a row.
so it says, Sid may have beenthe villain of Toy Story, but by

(36:55):
the third film in the franchise,he'd grown up to become a
garbage man working in hisneighborhood.
In the first film, he's shownthat all the toys he'd been
tearing apart for years werealive and he freaked out 15
years later.
He's a logical local garbageman, and he picks out anything
he finds of value for Sid.
It's toys.
That is cool.

(37:15):
Yeah.
this one like blew my mind.
Captain Hook killed Ariel'smother.
Oh, I've seen that one.
I've never seen this before.
Like many Disney princesses.
Ariel's mother is long pass, butRight.
Like, why are they alwayskilling the mom?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But suppose it wasn't due tonatural causes.
Many contend that Ariel's motherwas one of the mermaids shown in

(37:37):
Neverland before she marriedTriton.
Sadly, she ran a foul of CaptainHook who took her out.
The fact that Little Mermaid twomentions Ariel's mom was killed
by a pirate, seems to provethis.
Wait, there's a little mermaidtoo.
Yeah.
I've never seen it, but yes.
There's a bunch of LittleMermaid movies.
I've just realized I never sawthe, like the Live Action Little

(37:57):
Mermaid.
That was neither did I.
Mm-hmm.
I love the Beating the Beast onethough.
Mufasa is on Disney Plus rightnow.
I need to sleep.
Whatcha doing to me?
oh.
All right.
And then this one is guest DawnShot Bambi's mother.
It's dark, but it makes perfectsense.
Gean is shown to be a masterhunter who loves bragging over
his trophies.
In one journey, he sees a deerrunning and without a second

(38:19):
thought, takes it down with ashot.
The deer leaves behind a childnamed Bambi.
Yep.
Gean is the one behind one ofthe darkest Disney moments ever.
Wow.
That's heavy dude.
Gu on bad guy.
He is.
But I mean hunting, I have mixedemotions about it.
I do too.
Obviously would never be able todo it myself.
Right.
I get it.
Right.
If you're doing it for food.

(38:40):
Right.
if you're doing it just becauseyou're a psychopath.
Right.
It's hard pass.
Right.
Yeah.
Obviously doing it for food andI mean, I mean, I eat meat.
Like it is not like I'm opposedto it.
It's just, yeah.
I couldn't do it personally.
No.
I would cry.
No.
Oh, a hundred percent.
I wouldn't do it.
There is no way in this worldand I'm so thankful for all the,

(39:05):
the people that raise theanimals so that that's a piece.
But I couldn't do that.
I couldn't either.
I could not either.
No thank you.
All those chickens, I'd have amillion chickens'cause I would
never be able to, they'd benamed Noodle.
Scrambled.
Yeah.

(39:26):
Yeah.
Upside down egg.
It's not a thing.
Is it over easy?
Yeah.
Maybe that's what, what is wrongwith here?
A lot of things.
Um, do you wanna do, am I the a?
Mm-hmm.
Am I the, a-hole for laughing atmy stepson and ruining his
wedding?
It's a throwaway account.
Um, for context, I've beenmarried to my husband for just
over 20 years.
We started dating when my stepkids were five and three.

(39:49):
Our kids are, Adam, 28, stepkid, number one, Ben, 26.
Step kid number two, Charles 20.
David 17, and Ellie 13.
Adam's getting married at theend of the summer to his fiance
Alice.
27.
They're named A, B, C, D, and E.
I didn't even know.
okay, so Adam's getting marriedto Alice.

(40:09):
I wonder if they have to marrysomebody with the same.
I'm sure it's not required.
I'm sorry.
I'm sure it's not like writtenin their soul contract.
I'm thinking I did not take mymeds today.
That's so just starting to clickinto place now.
we've all been very excited forthem.
All of the kids have roles forthe wedding.
Charles is the best man.
The other two boys are grumen.

(40:30):
Ellie is a junior bridesmaid.
Last weekend we had a dinner formy husband's birthday.
All the kids attended along withAlice.
The topic of the wedding came upagain, and this is where it
started to go downhill.
Ellie brought up that she was soexcited to go dress shopping and
that we planned to go to abigger city in a few weeks to
get her address and me a stepmomof the groom dress.

(40:52):
At that, Alice looked at Adamsideways and responded that we
only needed to worry about onedress.
Ellie's laugh said, what are youexpecting mom to wear a suit?
Alice responded with my name,so.
Stepmom isn't going.
You know, we're keeping ourguest list very limited to only
family and a few close friends.

(41:13):
What?
She's been in this kid's lifefor 20 years.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Adam and Alice have been to ourhouse numerous times for
holidays, dinners, and just tosay hi.
Since they've been engaged, thishas never been brought up Pretty
quickly, things escalated.
The Cliff Notes version is thatCharles asked them to clarify if
they were choosing to uninviteme now, or if I was never

(41:34):
invited.
Alice confirmed the latter whyAdam said, it's because I'm not
his mom, Charles, David andEllie argued with Adam and Alice
that none of them were going, ifI wasn't invited, that it was
cruel to leave me out, givenI've been his parent for a
majority of his life and lovedhim like my own.
My husband and I admittedly satthere for a minute, just effing
shocked.

(41:54):
Adam finally turned to myhusband and said, well, my
husband told him he wouldn't begoing either.
Adam then turned to me and askedif I was really going to let
everyone ruin his wedding day onmy behalf.
Here's where I might be thea-hole.
I just laughed.
I don't know what came over me,but the entire thing was just so
ridiculous that laughing was theonly thing I could get out.

(42:15):
I told my husband I'd be waitingin the car and left and then
promptly bawled my eyes out.
Anyways, Charles, David andEllie are not talking to Adam.
Adam called my husband yesterdayto try to smooth things over.
He was still adamant I'm notinvited, and it's their wedding.
He also requested that, Iapologize for laughing at him.
Oh, my husband told him toughshit.

(42:37):
It's their wedding day and theycan invite whoever they want,
but they can't control who Iactually go.
He said they owe me an apologyand that Adam should be ashamed
of himself.
I'm getting texts now asking WTFdid I did and why I'm being a
step monster and ruining thewedding.
Am I the A-hole?
No.
No.

(42:58):
Okay.
I need, okay, so is it Adam'smom?
Saying she doesn't want, or isit the girlfriend that, you know
what I mean?
Yeah.
Like, well, all they said isthat they're keeping the guest
list small.
She's one person.
Yeah.
And, and it's the plus one.
Right.
And the only reason I could seeher not being involved is if

(43:22):
that relationship with them was,bad.
Right.
But it wasn't.
Okay.
Update, update five days later.
This is very new.
April 23rd.
Yeah.
So last week I read it, friends,thank you to everyone who
responded to my post.
Most of you were kind andoffered good advice.
I appreciate it.
Before I give an update, I justwanna answer a few FAQs.

(43:42):
Number one, I'm not an affairpartner.
My husband did not cheat on hisex-wife with me.
We met a year after theydivorced.
She was already engaged, not tocurrent stepdad, not that that
really matters.
Number two, Ben was at thedinner.
He is autistic.
Okay.
I went into it more in some ofmy comments, but he was very
upset.
He doesn't understand what theargument was exactly about.

(44:03):
but he was mostly upset at Adamfor saying I'm not their parent.
And then all the siblings werefighting with each other.
Update the short is, if youguessed it was related to bio
mom, you are correct.
Oh.
I didn't want this to be thecase.
So Adam rescheduled with Charlesfor Monday citing Easter
weekend.
Fair enough.
He also texted my husband to lethim know that he and Alice would

(44:24):
be doing Easter with herparents.
We expected that at some pointon Sunday, Ellie texted Alice.
I'm not sure what exactly wassaid, but prompted Alice to
spill everything that was goneon with her parents.
I've met them a few times, butthey live a few hours away.
They encouraged her and Adam toreach out to us to clear
everything up.
Monday we dropped Ben off to buymoms.

(44:44):
He stayed an extra night forEaster fun.
A few hours later, she began toblow up my husband's phone.
As Ben mentioned the fight, myhusband answered one call in
which she was screaming andproperly hung up.
He texted her that the siblingsargued.
Everything's fine.
And then if Ben has any furtherquestions, we'll talk about it
when he is back with us.
from some of the things shetexted, we knew she was the root
of all this Monday, Adam alsomet with Charles and he did come

(45:08):
clean.
Charles texted us to see if itwas okay if they came over
after, and we said, yes, I'm notgonna lie.
Adam looked a mess.
He immediately began crying andapologizing.
The short and sweet is that he'sbeen trying to mend bridges with
bio mom.
Their wedding isn't 60 people.
It's blown up to about doubleand they have been struggling to
figure out how to pay for it.
At one of their visits, a letAlice let it slip and bio mom

(45:31):
jumped to help pay for things.
It slowly snowballed from there,from small request to big
request.
I'm not sure what the final nailin the coffin was, but it ended
with by a mom requesting I notbe there.
Adam said it was easier to hurtme and risk World War III with
his mom.
Oof.
Alice's parents were less thanpleased to find out how they've.
Been with the wedding slashbudget and even less so at Bio

(45:54):
Mom's antics.
They're trying to figure out howto start covering the payments
Bio Mom has made.
We've decided to help with someof this.
Adam also asked if we could meetagain in a few days.
With Alison, we've said yes,there's still a lot of ground to
cover for this to be close tomended.
I'm still hurt, but mostly I'mangry on behalf of my son.
I'm angry on behalf ofeverybody.

(46:15):
Yeah, that's hard.
It is really hard.
I, um, glad that her parents.
Saw reason and was like, you,you guys need to talk to it.
Mm-hmm.
Let's talk it out.
Let's, you know, we're adults.
Let's, let's be adults.
Let's get to the bottom of whatthis is and, just come clean
with what's going on.
Yeah.
Um, so I'm happy for that, butthat is just talk about

(46:39):
manipulation.
That, but like the fact thatthey would buy into that mm-hmm.
Call me crazy, but I know, Idon't know if I could do that.
Yeah.
It's, yeah.
I think that I would've had aconversation with the stepmom
and the dad if I was the son andsay like, Hey, this is what

(46:59):
mom's doing.
Mm-hmm.
I'm in this really weirdsituation.
Yeah.
I'm sure.
It just, because to me it cameoff like his fiance was like a
total be about it at therestaurant.
Mm-hmm.
Was like, well, you're just notinvited.
Yeah.
It sounds like it just escalatedand got outta control and turned
into this thing that was justspiraling I'm glad there's some
conversations.
Hopefully there can be someresolution there and everybody

(47:21):
will be okay.
Mm.
I don't like that.
You are not the a-hole lady.
No, you are not.
All right.
well, if you're not our bookies,this is your time to leave.
We love you.
tell a friend to listen to usand you can listen to us next
week.
Yep.
Bye.
That made no sense, but goahead.
Okay.
Bye.
Non bookies bookies.
this week we read the MarshKing's Daughter by Karen Dion.

(47:46):
And I've got the blurb over theblurb.
Mm-hmm.
Let's go.
Helena Peltier seems to live aperfect life, but she hides a
dark past.
She was born in captivity afterher mother was abducted by her
father, the infamous Marsh King.
When he escapes from prisondecades later, Helena knows
she's the only one who can trackhim through the wild terrain.
He once trained her to survivein.

(48:08):
Now she must confront the manshe once loved and feared to
protect her family and and hislegacy.
I had read it before.
Oh, had you?
well, not too long ago when Iwas trying to like, catch up on
some of our books.
what did you think?
I liked it.
I think I was expecting moretwisty, suspense.
Mm-hmm.
that I don't think was there,but I don't think that was the

(48:30):
intention of mm-hmm.
The author, how she wrote it.
Mm-hmm.
so it wasn't like she missed themark on that.
I was just thinking that's howit was gonna go.
I think that there was a lot ofroom for her to have to do that.
Mm-hmm.
To put so many of those, thingsin there.
There's so much more I wantedfrom this book.
Mm-hmm.
I want more details.
All right.

(48:50):
And obviously we're gonna dospoilers.
Yep.
If you didn't read the book andyou want to read the book.
You can exit so you don't get itspoiled.
Or if you don't care aboutspoilers, stay, stay with us.
this is on two differenttimelines.
Yes.
present and then her childhood.
Mm-hmm.
and it was all told from herperspective Correct.
The child's perspective.
Us.
Yep.
So I think this was veryaccurate in that a child, if

(49:12):
there's discourse, whoever, youknow, she was daddy's girl, so
she mm-hmm.
Was treating the mom just likethe dad.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And she thought that the mom wasbelow her.
Mm-hmm.
Well, the dad was fun to her.
Right.
He taught her things and he didthings with her mom.
I mean, obviously because shehad been an abducted child.
Was withdrawn and terrified andmiserable, so.

(49:34):
Helena didn't know this, shejust thought her mom was just
blah.
Yeah.
So she identified more with herdad because he was engaging and
charming to her.
Was nothing he couldn't do.
Yeah.
But, and kids are soimpressionable, and I think
that's like a good take fromthis is that kids are so
impressionable.
Yeah.
And it's definitely in thisdynamic, it was mm-hmm.

(49:57):
Way different than your normal.
Right.
But it is still very relevant inhow your kids see the
interactions between theirparents.
and I think it goes one way orthe other.
Like, I don't think necessarilyall the time the kid will act
the same way of how thatparent's being treated.
Mm-hmm.
I think.
If your kid is very sensitive orempathetic, they, I think tend

(50:20):
to then try to make up for that.
Mm-hmm.
Um, mm-hmm.
Treatment.
Yeah.
So not necessarily that they'llgo like, oh, like psycho, like,
right.
Yeah.
There's so many variables inwhat that it definitely affects,
I mean, it's definitely a factorin how they, how they treat
other people and their otherparent Yeah.

(50:41):
Or siblings.
Helena had no empathywhatsoever.
Mm-hmm.
And you think that these arelike core things that you're,
you just have, but obviously Ithink it's something that you
learn Yeah.
If you go by this book.
Yeah.
because she had absolutely noempathy even after she knew the
whole situation.
Mm-hmm.
She still hadn't.

(51:01):
None.
Yeah, it was, it was a littlebit, I know.
Scary.
I was like, oh, this chick'sgonna psych up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right though.
I was waiting for her to becomelike a serial killer or
something.
Like, I'm like, where is thetwist?
You know where, where's it gonnacome from?
She, um, but even as a child,like, I'm thinking about to the
scenario where the mom made thecake mm-hmm.
And had the, um, made the babydoll for her, and she wanted

(51:25):
nothing to do with that.
And not just like, oh, nointerest, but like, she started
shooting it Yeah.
With the, was it knife or anarrow, but arrow, I think Yeah.
Going along with that mm-hmm.
She was so nonchalant about herfather being so abusive.
Mm-hmm.
And even when the dude came atthe end mm-hmm.
she didn't think twice about theguy being like, hung up in the

(51:47):
No, in the shed in handcuffs orwhatever, and like being
tortured.
She had like no second thoughtsabout it.
Mm-hmm.
And she was honestly like morecurious going out there to see.
Mm-hmm.
And it didn't even affect her.
So again, I know definitely adifferent situation than the
norm.
Right.
But still, yeah.
Yeah.
It really makes me think though.

(52:09):
It's just, what she was exposedto.
Yeah.
It was her and she accepted asthe norm, right?
Yeah.
And what she had, just think ofthe time when she was put in the
well with all the sharp thingsand she couldn't even sit down
for three days, right?
Mm-hmm.
And I mean, she was like, well,yeah, that was terrible.
I couldn't even sit down.
I tried not to think about whenthere were rats in there.
Yeah.
But just like no emotion andmaybe a coping, coping

(52:32):
mechanism.
Mm-hmm.
Whatever.
But yeah, it was like just verydisturbing for me.
Mm-hmm.
I'm like, oof.
Mm-hmm.
Agreed.
Agreed did it remind you alittle bit of like a, a crazy
version of where the crawldancing sink?
Oh, I kind of mentioned that,but it was, definitely felt like
there was some vibe there thatwas similar, so I felt so bad

(52:55):
for her husband.
Could you imagine finding outyour, your spouse as a whole ass
different person?
Like Right.
So he didn't know that she wasthe product of this abduction
until the cops show up to tellthem that he is in prison.
Right, right.
And that's how he found out.

(53:16):
And I could not imagine onefinding out that you married
somebody that you didn't, Imean, yeah, her, she changed her
entire story, which Iunderstand.
'cause she doesn't want thatconnection.
Mm-hmm.
but.
Oh my God.
So even things that were justvery obvious.
So she had a lot of self-madetattoos that her dad had given.

(53:37):
I say that they were NativeAmerican.
Yes.
So she had facial tattoos and,you know, all kinds of of
things.
So even as an adult, she hadthese.
And she made up these otherstories.
And again, I get it, girl, Iwouldn't have wanted people to
know he was, I don't know how Iwould handle that, but I
wouldn't wanna be connected tohim either.
But she made up these outlandishstories to cover up the tattoo

(53:58):
situation and different thingslike that.
She would just leave and go huntbear.
Yeah.
And she had her kid and left.
She was like, I just need outtwo weeks.
Yeah.
I mean, didn't we all wanna dothat?
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
Those are the sweetest momentsand exhausting.
Yeah.
I think that's also part of herdisconnect with her emotions

(54:20):
everything I think is tiedtogether with how she was
raised.
Yeah.
Obviously.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it still like, was likeuhhuh, I could not imagine
Right.
Her husband in that moment.
Mm-hmm.
When the police came.
And he was like, what do youmean?
Yeah.
Why do we care?
This dude's escaped and therewas no beating around the bush
either.
Cop's, like, Hey Helena,different last name.
We wanna talk to you about yourdad who just escaped from prison

(54:42):
and his name is dah, dah, dah.
my friends on CSI always like,can we talk to you in private
for a minute?
That was none of that.
No.
do you remember in the bookwhen, um, he made a comment that
he should have taken the othergirl?
See, I almost wanna read thisagain.
From like, his perspective.
Had he been planning this?

(55:03):
I mean, I think he was planningon taking somebody.
It, it was just convenient thatthey were there.
And was he just wanting them to,to raise this family or?
Well, he kept mentioning thatnative Americans stole women
from other tribes.
Mm-hmm.
And.
So he was manipulating all ofthese Native American,

(55:24):
traditions.
Traditions, you know, historyYeah.
To suit himself.
Yeah.
he saw her and he took her.
Yeah.
there was definitely like ascrew loose.
Oh yeah And then Helena boughtthe land of her grandparents.
So bad dude's, parents.
Right.
Uhhuh that is just like.
What's it called when you'redependent on your captor

(55:46):
Stockholm stock called?
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
Ew.
But then, then you had hermaternal grandparents who were
just trying to make money off ofher.
Everybody was gross in thisbook.
They were, they, everybodysucked.
Everybody sucked.
so my takeaways were Helena'spretty much a badass.

(56:06):
There's a lot she could do.
She could shoot and trap and doall the things I have no desire
to do.
She just doesn't have them.
But for me, but she does not,but she can apparently make good
jelly.
Going back a little bit.
She killed the dude in the shed.
Yes.
Which she was doing because itwas like mercy.
Yeah.

(56:26):
But still she did it and thenshe let everybody assume that it
was the dad to have that rightfor the rest of your life.
As a huge secret.
My thing was is how did she knowas a, what was she, 12?
Yeah.
Something like that.
Your old child that had beensheltered and didn't really even
understand the concept ofpolice, that she shouldn't tell

(56:49):
anybody that you know I thinkshe obviously knew, she knew it
was wrong to kill peoplegetting, she knew she didn't
wanna kill the wolf.
Mm-hmm.
And she said that that wouldn'tbe like the same as killing a
person.
So she knew killing a person waswrong.
Yeah.
this was made into a movie?
Yes.
And I watched the movie after Ifinished the book.
Okay.
'cause I wanted to see Yep.
How they would, whatever,manipulate it.

(57:10):
They changed the entire thing.
Really?
Oh yeah.
Like.
It was.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I was Was it decent?
It was okay.
It was kind of like the samepace, I guess.
Mm-hmm.
As the book.
There wasn't any likeexcitement.
Yeah.
It was very, monotone.
Mm-hmm.
the movie felt that way too.
Yeah.
So much changed in it.

(57:31):
Yeah.
I was just like, that's not howthat goes.
Right.
Right.
That is not, that's usually whyI don't do good with, with
watching the movies after.
That's kind of a bummer.
Yeah.
So it's got, it should stay trueto kind of what the story's
about.
If you're wanna name it the samething, it should be very
similar.
Yeah.
But anyway.
What'd you think?
Six five.
Five six.

(57:51):
Okay.
I'd say seven or eight.
Interesting.
To me, I think my expectationwas like, I heard the kidnapping
and Yeah.
That, and I was expectingsomething like more intense,
fast pace, some twisted stuffand it, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think I realized thatentire book was gonna be from
her perspective.
Okay.
Like, we normally get multipleviews and Yeah.

(58:12):
Our books usually are a bitmore, you hear about all the
different twists and turns.
Mm-hmm.
So the next book, if you're coolwith it, is, no One Can Know by
Kate Alice Marshall.
Okay, cool.
14 years ago, the PalmerSisters, Emma, Juliet, and
Daphne left their home in ArdenHills and never returned.
But when Emma discovers she'spregnant and her husband loses

(58:33):
his job, she has no option butto return to the house that she
and her estranged sisters stillown, and where their parents
were murdered.
Emma has never told anyone whatshe saw that night.
Her parents died even when shebecame the prime suspect.
But her presence in the housethreatens to uncover secrets
that have stayed hidden foryears.
And the sisters are drawntogether once again.

(58:54):
As they face their memories ofthe past.
Rivalries, restart.
Connections are forged.
And for the first time, Emmastarts to ask questions about
what really happened that night.
The more Emma learns, the moreriles emerge, and Emma begins to
wonder just what her siblingswill do to keep the past buried,
and whether she did the rightthing, staying quiet about what
she whispered that night.

(59:15):
No one can know.
Have you started it?
I read it already.
I read it.
Oh, you read it a couple weeksago?
Okay.
Yeah.
Cool.
It sounds good.
Yeah.
I liked it.
got it on hoopla and downloadingit now, so, we're in end.
We're halfway through thealphabet.
Mm-hmm.
For the first round.
Yep.
Alright.
well thank you guys forlistening.
Thank y'all.
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