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Welcome back to This Is My Circus — where parenting is wild, hot tubs are overcrowded, and mermaids might just be real. In this final episode (for now), we’re going out with chaos, conspiracies, cringe, and a little cry. Buckle up — it’s a ride.

✨ Inside This Episode:

  • 🛁 Vacation recap: 5 teenage boys + 1 tiny Airbnb hot tub + double-fisting honey buns = chaos we did not plan for
  • 🚪 Wrong door + stolen Oreos = peak awkward
  • 🦙 Capybara obsessions, otter encounters & a Charlotte-area zoo with a sketchy website that needs a Honey Drop glow-up
  • 🐬 Area 51’s on fire (literally), mermaids may be locked in Nevada, and dolphins might be telepathic
  • 👀 Public cheating caught at Coldplay and a credit union office. It’s giving main character energy (but not in a good way)
  • 🛏️ Creepy bunk bed request for 36 kids leads to a registry check and a police arrest — thank you, Texas furniture guy
  • 🎤 And… we’re officially hitting pause on the podcast. (For now!) We love y’all and explain why we’re stepping back.

🎙️ “Am I the A-Hole?”

A wedding guest performs the entire Catholic ceremony (organ, vocals, the whole thing)… then finds out he was never invited as a guest. So he sues the couple — and wins.
Verdict: Everyone’s the a-hole. Including the groom, who said “I’ll talk to her” and never did.

📚 Book Chat: Zodiac Academy: The Awakening by Caroline Peckham

Twin sisters with all four elemental powers are thrown into a magical school full of bullying, betrayal, and elite fae chaos. It's giving Harry Potter meets Vampire Diaries with a splash of Gossip Girl and a whole lot of hot underwear.

⭐️ Rating: 8/10
 🌶️ Spice: 2 chili peppers for Book 1, but it definitely heats up in future books
🎧 Audiobook: Distracting sound effects + identical twin POVs = mild confusion
💬 Our verdict: Confusing but addictive. We’re already three books deep.

📖 Next Book Pick (For Those Continuing Along):

All This and More by Peyton Shepherd
A twisty “choose your path” novel about big life decisions and multiple realities. Perfect for fans of Sliding Doors, The Midnight Library, and interactive fiction.

📣 ANNOUNCEMENT: Taking a Break

Between new businesses, football seasons, and our senior-year mom feels, we’re taking a pause from regular podcasting to soak up every second. This isn’t goodbye forever — it’s just a break.

We love you. We’ll miss you. And we might just randomly drop back into your feed.

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(00:00):
Welcome to, this is my circus,the podcast where we embrace the
chaos and keep it real aboutparenting, pop culture, true
crime, and the books we can'tput down because let's be
honest, life is one big circusand we're just trying to survive
with caffeine, sarcasm, and alittle true crime obsession.
So if you love unfilteredconversation, questionable
parenting hacks, and deep divesinto the things that keep us up

(00:21):
at night, you're in the rightplace.
Buckle up, grab your popcorn,and let's get into the chaos.
/You were, uh, trying to figureout what color?
Do you know what color?
I think, just because I, I have,I can't make a decision right
now.
Mm-hmm.
Because I should not be making adecision right now.
I'm just gonna do my roots.
I saw this thing the other nightthat was funny.
It was, this girl who had beenat, I wanna say like medical

(00:45):
school and you know how we dodrastic things when we
shouldn't.
And she was like, every time Iwanted to cut my bangs, I would
cut my Guinea pigs and it showedall these crazy haircuts on the
Guinea pig, like with the, like,one time I had like a widow's
peak and one time like theterrible bang straight across.
It was hilarious.

(01:05):
It was hilarious.
Are you recording?
'cause that's a funny story.
It's, yeah, I think so.
I'm Stephanie.
I'm Meredith.
And welcome to, this is mycircus.
I'm sorry, I forgot yourbirthday present.
It's okay.
I'll bring it back tomorrow.
Okay.
Give me another reason to comehang out.
Yay.
How have you been?
Good.

(01:26):
Good.
I, um, kind of, I dunno.
Busy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll figure that.
Busy.
Busy.
I liked our mini app we droppedlast week.
I did too.
I thought that was fun.
Yeah.
Nice, short, sweet.
Mm-hmm.
To the point.
Yep.
No fluff.
No, no, no fluff.
None of this silly banter.
Mm.
None of the silly banter.

(01:47):
So we went on vacation.
that was one of the reasons wehad to kind of do a mini up.
Mm-hmm.
Because we had some things goingon.
And let me tell you, so it wasme and Brian.
Mm-hmm.
And Jackson.
Okay.
Told Jackson he could invite afriend because, you know, so he
invited four.
Are you serious?
I'm so serious.

(02:09):
Oh my God.
So it was me and Brian, and thenfive teenage boys.
It was not the most relaxingvacation I've ever been on.
I would say so.
But one of the mostentertaining.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
So we, when we went toCallenburg that first night, we
had an Airbnb.
Brian and I got there in aboutfour hours, which is not bad,

(02:30):
you know, stopping a couple oftimes or whatever.
Seven hours later they show up.
They had been stopping to takepictures.
Oh.
Peacocks and all of them.
And they went to like getWalmart snacks and they did all
like, we were only there forlike three days.
You would've thought that it wasgonna be like a month long
thing.
So the Airbnb, we stayed at thefirst night, had a hot tub.

(02:51):
Okay.
Well, Brian and I had alreadygot it in in there and we were
like, let's get out.
The boys are coming.
I had to do some work stuff,turn in my time sheet and stuff
like that.
So I was like, I'll we'll getout and we'll wait.
And then they can come and we'llhelp them get settled and show
them around, whatever.
So here they come.
Mm-hmm.
10, 11 o'clock at night,whatever it was.

(03:12):
Loud cra you know, doing allthe, yep.
Let's go.
You know, all the things.
So they decide they're all gonnago get in the hot tub.
Let me see.
It was, it was well over athousand pounds worth of kids
because there was one kid that'snot a football lineman.
Mm-hmm.
They get in the hot tub andthere's just water coming out

(03:33):
over the hot tub.
I assume it was outside.
It was outside.
One of the boys has got, he hadstopped.
At their, at the store and hehad honey buns and he's sitting
in there with honey buns in eachhand, double fist and honey
buns.
They're all trying to fit inthere, but I mean, they're big
guys.
Yeah.
I mean, just shy of 300 pounds,some of'em.

(03:53):
So they are, they're not small.
And so they're all like barelyfitting in this little, oh my
gosh.
That was just the start of it.
Take a picture.
Oh, I have the video.
Do you wanna see it?
Yes.
It was so much fun.
Again, not relaxing at all, butit was a lot of fun.
So how did, how did therealization that he invited four
kids come up?

(04:14):
Was it like, Hey Jackson, whichone of which one of your friends
is coming?
No, it was a, Hey mama, I thinkI messed up.
And you know, I start thinking,oh my gosh, what have we done?
And he's like, well, I invited.
Multiple people thinking thatonly one, maybe two could come.
And he was like, but they allcan come and this guy's gonna

(04:35):
drive and we're all gonna ridewith him.
I was like, okay.
Well then Banton couldn't go.
Okay.
And I was like, oh, okay, sowe're just out.
Nope, he invited somebody else.
So here's the, here's the video.
Oh, it's a tiny little, it's atiny hot tub, but okay.
There's the double fist in thehoney buns, so anyway, times

(04:56):
have changed because at that ageI was double fist in something
else.
They're really good sweet boys.
We were not, no, I'm justkidding.
We had our moments, but it wasjust a fun time.
Yeah a lot, a lot of storieshappened.
They made some good memoriestogether.
I need another vacation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We need a girls trip.

(05:18):
Absolutely.
We've been talking about this.
We've just gotta schedule it.
Do it.
I know.
Are you booking it right now?
Yeah.
No.
Um, one other funny thing thathappened though when we were
there is I ran out to the car toget something uh, so after that
first night we stayed in, condosand there was like several
different buildings I got oursall mixed up and I'm banging on
the wrong room door and I'mlike, oh my gosh, I know they're

(05:39):
in there.
What are they doing?
And I continued to bang and allof a sudden, and I had food in
my hand.
'cause I had gone to like getsome of the snacks and stuff
from the car.
And this woman who I had neverseen in my life, and this little
kid opened the door and I waslike, I'm so sorry.
It's the wrong room.
And there was this old man, likepapa was sitting in the living
room and was like waving.

(06:00):
I was like, Hey.
And they were like, we'll takethe Oreos.
And I was like, no, no, no, no,no, you won't.
So two stories kind of sum upthe whole adventure.
But it was a good time.
Good.
Yeah.
It was a good time.
But yeah, definitely need thegirls trip now.
Mm-hmm.
To recover from the family trip.
Oh my gosh.
I can't believe I went to thewrong door.
Family friends.

(06:20):
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
We haven't really done anything.
Okay, so Dylan mm-hmm.
Is currently obsessed with, youknow, like, those like giant
like Guinea pig looking thingsfrom, um, like cap barrel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can never, I call'em capis'cause I can never, yeah.
I don't know if I'm saying itright, but, so Dylan's like,
they're like the coolestfreaking animals ever.

(06:41):
Mm-hmm.
And at Darby Farms in Charlotte,like, it's like.
15 minutes from here.
Okay.
They have an experience to like,you know, I like an experience
matrix.
So they have that and they haveotters shoddy?
Yes.
Are y'all going?
I think so, yeah.
So yesterday I was looking andtheir website to get tickets.

(07:04):
It is like super hard tonavigate.
It's not an easy, they needhoney drop media to update their
socials and their website.
it's like just not easy.
Mm-hmm.
To do everything.
Because if you want this, thegeneral admissions included and
you have to buy the generaladmission for each animal.
Instead of one general missionyou and then add on, you can't
do like an add-on.

(07:25):
Okay.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
We were looking and then likethe otters are only available at
certain times mm-hmm.
Of the day.
So the otters are sometimesavailable?
Sometimes not.
Not, yeah.
But they've got a very busysocial calendar.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So I am like super excited thatit's so close.
Yes.
Um, they also have like lemursand you can do like the whole
shebang.
Okay.

(07:45):
Which is like a two hours long.
It's your general admission todo the walkthrough.
Uh, and then you get certain, Iguess interactions or whatever,
but Okay.
It does, it doesn't say you'reguaranteeing these interactions.
Right.
Like, I wanna do the two that hereally wants to do.
So Yeah, of course.
But yeah.
That's awesome.
I know I'm so, they've gotkangaroo, but like now I'm kinda
scared of Kroos.
Yeah, absolutely.

(08:05):
I've got a little bit of a fearUhhuh.
Um, hopefully not, they're notthe like Arnold Schwarzenegger
looking ones.
So what do you get to do?
Do you get to pet them?
Yeah, so it just says notguaranteed to touch, because I
guess it depends on how, theirtemperament is that day.
Mm-hmm.
But all the videos that I saw,they're all super chill it looks
like.
And so yeah, they've gotlemurs,, which lemurs are not
like the I like to move it, moveit little guys like.

(08:27):
Right, right, right.
They're not, they're not KingJulian.
No, they are not King Julianlike.
They don't look like KingJulian.
I still look a little different.
There's no fruit crown going on.
So I was like, yeah, that's notone that I really have an
interest in doing.
Mm-hmm.
There's like a porcupineexperience.
Have you seen baby porcupines?
Yes.
I just saw a video on them sofreaking cute.

(08:47):
Adores.
Yeah.
And there was not a raccoonexperience though.
But it's tons of different likeanimals.
Oh.
So gonna be so fun.
I know.
And then I was like, well,should we wait till it gets a
little cooler out so they'remore active?
I don't because it's so freakinghot right now.
It is.
It's disgusting.
Today's not bad.
Yeah.
Compared to how it's been, butmm-hmm.
Yeah, when we've been cuttinggrass, like we're all just

(09:08):
soaked.
It's crazy.
It's gross.
You're outside for like 10seconds and you're crunched.
Yeah.
Um, I would do a little lookylooky on your, search engines
there to see like, are they moreactive or did they, did any of
those animals hibernate?
No, but not these.
They're handled all day long.
but like bears and zeuss stillhibernate, don't they?
I dunno.
I don't know either.

(09:28):
If you're a bear listening, letus, let us know if you
hibernate.
I mean, in Nashville we would goall year long'cause we had like
season passes.
Yeah.
And the animals, you feel youwere seen Yeah.
Seeing all the things.
Yeah.
That was a good zoo.
Nashville really the best playarea for kids.
Like we would go just to go tothe play area.
That's awesome though, for, Imean, it was like the, all these

(09:50):
giant like, rope, um, oh yeah.
Stuff.
I mean like, everything waslike, jungley.
Yeah.
But it was so cool.
Have you been to the MarthaRivers and Guston?
That park?
That one was always fun too.
I know it probably doesn't holda candle to that, but I picture
that times a hundred.
Yeah, no, it was like huge,huge, huge, Oh, I know Dylan
loved that.
Oh my God, we had so much fun.
Mm-hmm.
But he was like two.

(10:10):
He, he barely remembers it.
I know.
Isn't that the way, that's theway it always is.
We did go there for springbreak, when he was in fourth
grade.
Mm-hmm.
We went back to, and my aunt anduncle still lived there, so, we
went to go see them and we wentback to the zoo.
Aw.
He's like, this is.
Not what I ever, I would, Iremember, I'm like, do you
remember or are you justthinking of pictures because
Yeah, you are too.
I'll do that sometimes.

(10:30):
Like I, I feel like I rememberthings, then I see a picture,
I'm like, Nope.
That's the perspective Iremember.
So, yeah.
Well that will be a good time.
Mm-hmm.
I'm excited for you.
Yeah.
Don't mean to be Debbie Downerhere.
Mm-hmm.
But after that heartwarming, funsituation you have planned, did
you see Ozzy died?
Yes.
I thought he was way older than76.
So Fine.

(10:51):
I feel like he was 76, so, okay.
When I was in middle school.
Mm-hmm.
So we're talking like earlynineties, 9 90, 89, whatever.
Like all the devil worshipers.
We were always like, theylistened to Ozzy and I thought
he was 76 then come to find out.
Yeah, no, I, I thought he wasolder too.
Did you used to watch when hewas on MTV?

(11:12):
Yes.
The show?
Yeah.
Yes, absolutely.
And it's not my genre Right.
Of music.
Right.
But I just thought it was sofascinating, Oh yeah.
That the, their family dynamics.
Oh, a hundred percent.
And I did not fact check this,so I don't know, but I'm hearing
that he died in like Switzerlandand he chose to die.

(11:32):
Oh.
So, I don't know.
Do some.
Peeps do some research on thatone.
'cause I don't know if that'strue or not.
Yeah.
I mean, he was out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He, he had a lot of drug damage.
And also Theo Huxtable.
I just saw that this morning.
He died yesterday.
Yeah.
How are we supposed to livewithout, Theo was like the big

(11:55):
brother to everybody, you know?
Yeah.
Kind of had a little crush onhim too.
Mm-hmm.
He was good looking.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So, sad, sad, sad.
Yeah.
Oh, Dylan, do we talk aboutthis, the concert that he wanted
to go to?
No, I don't think so.
So he's been sending me like,concerts, the last six months
and I'm like, cool, let me knowif you wanna go.
Yeah, I'll get the tickets.
Yeah.
Let me know.
Let me know.
And like, every time it's hewaits too long and then he's

(12:16):
like, I'll just forget it.
And every festival that he sentme, he really only wanted to
see,, treaty, Oak Revival.
Okay.
It's like a country rockish kindof Okay.
Band.
that's one of his favoritebands, they were playing at a
couple of festivals and it waslike a Kentucky, or it was in
Alabama or somewhere.
Mm-hmm.
So they were coming to SouthCarolina in September, so I got
pit tickets.

(12:37):
Nice.
It's like, well, do you want tobring a friend?
Right.
And he's like, can it just be meand you?
And I was like, are you serious?
And he's like.
Yeah, I would just like reallylike just me and you go.
And I was like, yeah, I'm soexcited for you for that.
That sounds like an amazing,amazing time.
I was like, he still likes tohang out with his mom, nursing

(12:59):
guys.
Nursing.
So it's in a smaller venue.
Yeah.
all, there's no like assignedseating or anything, but there's
like the pit area and thenthere's the general, is it
relatively close to our area?
An hour and a half away easily.
East.
East.
I've heard of it, but I, butsuper excited.
Yeah.
Let's take it.
We are all set to go.
You now, there's also somethingcoming to Clover in September.

(13:20):
Did you see that?
Mm-hmm.
I don't, I did not know any ofthe artists, but it's a Friday
night in September.
It's like Nashville comes toClover or something.
Really?
And there's three artists thatare coming and you have to buy
tickets and they provide seatsand I think they're having like
Nashville style food trucks andstuff, so I'll have to check
that out.
Yeah, well, Jackson and I bondeda little bit with our, me and

(13:42):
him time by watching the firstepisode, season three of the
summer, I turned pretty Okay.
Me and Dylan watched the newDexter.
I mean, that might be next.
But I have been dying to watchthis and he was out of town with
his grandparents and he finallygot back and we watched it and I
was like, oh my God, this isjust cringe worthy.

(14:04):
It's really, it's not as greatas the other seasons.
Mm-hmm.
But you know, I'm, I'm in thisfar, I gotta figure it out.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but that was fun justsitting around watching TV at
midnight with him is sometimesjust, yeah.
What do you need to do?
Mm-hmm.
You love when they wanna hangout with us?
Yes.
Makes me so happy.
Um, I have to show you our text,message from this morning.

(14:28):
So he gets up at about six 30 togo to football practice.
Mm-hmm.
And I just text him to wake himup and make sure he's up.
So I am not a morning person atall.
He is not a morning person atall.
This is our text interaction.
Okay.
I'm gonna read mine in the blue.
Mm-hmm.
You read his in the gray.
Okay.
Okay.

(14:48):
So 6:30 AM I say morning.
Morning.
Great day.
You awake?
Yes.
Love, love.
That was it.
That was our whole interactionbefore 1130 this morning while
he was getting ready forfootball.
Like under 10.
Under 10 words.
Okay.
It works.
It does, it does.

(15:08):
That just killed me.
I sent it to my sister becauseshe knows that I'm not a more
person.
She was like, oh my gosh.
She's just like you.
Well, Dylan got, the bags in histruck, so his truck now twerks,
like it does, like the up anddown.
Okay.
I just had a mental picture of,oh, do you think where, um,

(15:32):
Uhhuh where it did?
I wanna see it do it.
Well, I got a video.
Okay.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Does he like, like what, whatdoes, is there a point of it?
Well, you can have it squattedand if you get pulled over, you
can put it back.
I mean, that's great.
That's great.
But I mean, he goes to like alot of truck shows and stuff

(15:52):
like that, and they do all thetruck things and he put like a,
a speaker wall in the back,,instead of like regular
speakers.
There's like a speaker wall inthe truck now.
So That's so funny.
So Jackson's birthday is thisweekend, he'll be 16.
Oh gosh.
And I asked him, I what do youwant for your birthday?
Like, do you want anything foryour car?
And he's the anti dill.
And he was like, well, I mean, Ireally don't even know what else

(16:13):
I, I was like, I, I don't knoweither.
He was like, well, I got mywindows tinted and my system's
pretty good.
I don't know what else I wouldneed.
Dylan would have a whole list.
Gosh, yes.
Yeah.
Or, or tools that he use.
Use.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what he said.
He, and he was like, mom, Ithink I know what I want for my
birthday's.
Birthdays in November.
That's okay.
And I was 10 ahead.
I was like, what?
And he is like, whatever thetool.
Something kind of tool thing.

(16:35):
He's like, I think I want thisand this.
Yeah.
And of course I was gonna gettattoos together and I was like,
yes.
On the tattoos for sure.
Uhhuh, is he gonna get the onethat he's always wanted?
Mm-hmm.
Remind me what that is.
Um, it's like green darks.
Okay.
Okay.
That's right.
Yeah.
So cute.
Do you know where you're gonnago to get it done?
There's a place in Charlottethat is supposed to be really

(16:56):
good, but the place in Clover,everybody that has gone there
has said it was really good.
Yeah.
So I'm not opposed to either.
Right.
There is a place in Gastonia.
Mm-hmm.
That's where I got mine.
I keep seeing stuff on TikTokabout them that are, they're
great.
And then they do like.
Tiny tattoo Tuesdays.
Oh no, they don't.
For$10 you can get like out oflike their book of whatever

(17:16):
tattoos.
The little itty bitty tattoos.
And then on Thursdays it's the$30 Thursdays where it's like
two inch by two inch or two anda half inch tattoos.
Why are we here?
Let's go Thursday.
Okay.
What do you wanna get?
What's in the book?
Do you know?
I don't know.
We can go look.
Yeah, let's go.
We can always go look and thenask to see like the tiny Chat

(17:36):
two Tuesday, book two.
And see, we need to see the TinyTattoo Tuesday book too.
We don't have to go like at thaton those days.
We can just ask if we can seethe books and then decide if
there's anything that we wannaget.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah,$10 on Tuesdays for likethe itty bitty little baby
tattoos.
And then on Thursdays it's$30.
I won't either one.
And then they also have like apiercing day.

(17:58):
If like you want piercings, I'mokay with that.
Yeah.
Anymore, I almost wanted my nosepierced.
I think that's adorable.
I love it.
Jackson's got some friends that,that have theirs pierced or some
even I have some friends.
I sneeze so much though.
I'm like, I it wouldn't not, itwouldn't work.
Yeah.
Olivia's got hers pierce andit's so pretty.

(18:18):
I have to wear those strips atnight.
Put my nose up.
Can you imagine?
And you know what the bad thingis about those is my face ID
doesn't recognize me when I havethat strip on between that and
my forehead wrinkle patch, ithas no idea who I am.
No security, but my wrinklepatch is working well.

(18:38):
What, which ones did you get?
Not just like the regular tapestuff, but it's one, I, I'll
have to look it up for you, butit's got like the V that goes
down like right here.
And do you get it on?
Or TikTok, of course, theAmazon.
Um, all right, so should we makeour, our announcement now?
Yeah.
I think this is a good time asany, so we, um, have announced

(19:00):
that we both have startedbusinesses and thankfully
getting busier.
Yes.
And Dylan's going into hissenior year.
Jackson's starting football andthings have just kind of gotten
a little hectic for us.
So we are going to be taking abreak.
Yeah.
Don't know when we back.
It's not you, it's us.
No, it's them.
No.

(19:21):
Yeah, they're just in a reallybusy season right now and with
us just only having the onekiddo, we, we wanna be a hundred
percent present for these bigmilestones.
And, Steph especially takes alot of time between editing and
doing all the socials and stuff,and I've not made it a secret
that I just show up and hangout, but, we just really want to

(19:45):
be able to enjoy every singleminute there.
Now that's not saying we mightnot pop in every once in a
while.
Yeah.
We might just randomly Right.
Throw, drop up in your, yourfeed and we might come back
together and, you know, startdoing it, on a regular basis
again too.
But for now, between.
Life and these new businessesthat both seem to be taken off

(20:08):
pretty well.
We just, which we actually bothhave on our colors today.
Me too.
For our businesses.
Not planned.
No.
We just both really need to takea step back.
Yeah.
But, we'll still be hanging out.
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
This is, this is, I posted it onmy Facebook today.
This is our therapy.
Yeah.
My therapy.
Anyway, I don't know if you feelthat way.

(20:29):
Yes.
Okay.
If you feel like you'rebabysitting.
No, I've said that over and overand over.
I know it's cheaper thantherapy.
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
So, we might, like we said, wemight pop up in your, um, you
know, new episodes.
Sometimes we might not, but, youcan always reach out to us.
We'll enter any, please do.
Please do.
And, we'll see where futuretakes us.

(20:50):
All right, well, let's get ontoto, um, am I the A-hole?
No.
Okay.
On July 4th, area 51 caught onfire, did you see the No.
Yeah, it took me a minute toprocess that.
That's like Nevada, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
Like where, like the all likeYeah, the aliens.
Aliens, yeah.
Us Smith Uhhuh.
It caught on fire.
Yeah.
There was a big fire.
So right before that though,there was some videos, like

(21:15):
clips that went out mm-hmm.
there's this one guy who saysthat I guess he has a friend
that like a retired employee.
Mm-hmm.
And tells him all like the stuffyou know, of what has, what goes
mm-hmm.
What goes on.
Mm-hmm.
Like the alien stuff andwhatever.
And like, it's all legit.
I've already said this.
I believe in all of it, I think.
Right.
I believe in all of it.
Right.

(21:35):
So he said that the dude toldhim that they are keeping
mermaids there and experimentingon them.
And this like, I guess just kindof leaked out.
Okay.
right before 4th of July andthen there with all these fires.
Mm.
And they're saying that it waslike a lightning strike that

(21:56):
started it.
Mm-hmm.
But is it like trying to get ridof all the things?
Mm-hmm.
What else is down there?
Is that where right?
The Epstein files are Maybe,maybe, um, oh, forgot.
Yeah.
So I, me going down thisfricking rabbit hole at 3:00 AM
Right.
Because I'm like, wait, what?

(22:17):
Tell me all about it.
My face.
Right.
I'm in Tell before.
So the comment section'cause nowthey're saying space is actually
in the ocean, because of thecenter of the earth, whatever.
There, actually have beenreleased documents saying that
there's aliens of ocean.
I mean, I kind of believe thatwas some of the stuff that
washes up, but NASA used tostudy the ocean and they like

(22:39):
dipped out and now study thespace like what was down there.
Oh, lots of stuff, right?
Like fish with the one lightover it, dude finding emo,
right?
Yeah.
There's crazy stuff down there.
Yeah.
So, as I'm continuing mm-hmm.
On this awful rabbit hole of ohmy god.
Yeah.
What?
We don't know anything.

(23:00):
No.
We have been lying to our wholelives.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Like, do I go on the ocean?
Right.
I know.
That's why literally ETS gonnacome out.
Like I don't, so there was a,YouTube video that was linked
and I'm like, okay, I'm in.
Right.
Show me all the things.
Right.
And it was on the Historychannel on YouTube.

(23:20):
Okay.
And it was a clip from UFOHunters, called Underwater Area
51.
And there's actually a websitefor, and like the acronym is
A-U-T-E-C.
And I did not write down what itwas for.
Okay.
But this is where the BermudaTriangle is the underground,
area 51.
Okay.
And that's the aliens and allthe testing that they do.

(23:41):
Mm-hmm.
And that's why all these planesdisappear, disappear and all
these electro whatever.
Mm-hmm.
So they were interviewing peopleand the people that used to work
around there, and they saidthat.
This is like so bananas, but Itotally like, believe in all
uhhuh stuff.
Uhhuh, like, it just messes withmy head.
Yeah.
And I'm also very gullible, soif it's not real, I still bought

(24:03):
into it.
But they said that like theserandom land masses would pop out
of the ocean.
They would be in their, theirbig boats or uhhuh over like
their ships and like as big asManhattan.
Mm-hmm.
I've heard that before.
Mm-hmm.
Just randomly pop out the waterand then disappear and it's Oh,
I didn't know they disappeared.
Yeah.

(24:23):
What the heck?
I dunno.
But the things in the ocean arecreepier than things on land.
And then when there are thesetsunamis and all these new
species Yeah.
End up on land.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I know you've seen, I wanna sayit was in Japan, the, um,
mermaids that washed up.
Yeah.

(24:44):
They're not, it's not aerial,no.
Mm-hmm.
They're sirens.
Mm-hmm.
Crazy looking.
It's crazy.
Mm-hmm.
It's crazy.
Mm-hmm.
Damn.
I wanna know all the things, butthen I'm afraid to know all the
things.
Right.
I was just thinking, okay, soJackson just went on a cruise.
Mm-hmm.
That's scary.
I mean, all it would take, like,don't know, they could just suck
the ship under.

(25:04):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I'm with you.
I wanna know the things, but I'mterrified to do the things.
Yeah.
Speaking of Ocean, did you knowthat sometimes this is funny.
Dolphins will antagonize pufferfish.
Yes.
So it release the venom and theyget high.
Yes.
Listen, dolphins know theirstuff and then they'll play with

(25:25):
them.
They'll just like balance themaround.
I love that story.
I've been meaning to saysomething about that for the
longest time.
Well, you know, it's illegal nowto talk to dolphins the
government has made it illegalthat you're not allowed to talk
to dolphins.
Woo.
I'm glad there's,'cause they,uh, there has been research by
whatever government agency Oh mygosh.

(25:46):
That they can supposedlytelepathically talk to humans.
I mean, flipper could, um,especially pregnant women.
Oh.
And I'm like, there is nothingthat would never make me want to
carry mm-hmm.
At this age ever.
But that could almost, thatwould be the one thing, it could
almost entice me.

(26:07):
Have you seen a dolphin be born?
Yes.
Thank you.
I did.
Thank you.
Because don't listen, Siri.
No.
We're not talking about birdsever again.
I wouldn't mind communicatingwith a dolphin either.
Maybe I depends on what it wantsto tell me.
I'd either get one that's reallystupid or mean and be like,

(26:28):
dopey.
I want one that's gonna give meall the dolphin tea.
That's what I want.
Fill me in on everything goingon down there.
Um, well down there, as in FortWorth, Texas.
Mm-hmm.
I was scrolling and saw thatthis dude walks into a furniture
store in Fort Worth, Texasmm-hmm.
And approaches the salespersonsaying he needed triple bunk

(26:52):
beds, that they all hadfull-size mattresses.
He said he needed at least threekids to be able to fit on each
mattress and needed.
Four of these, so essentially 36children.
Mm-hmm.
So all the people were gettingfreaked out.
Like, what the heck?
This is not normal.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
This is weird.
It was like an older dude justmm-hmm.

(27:12):
Vibes were off.
Yeah.
So they take down hisinformation.
His name was Emory Garner.
Okay.
get his phone number address andthey're like, Hey, let me look
into this and let me see what Ican do and send him away.
So then they get on, do abackground check or search him
or whatever, and he's on theregistry, the SA registry.
Mm.
So our handy dandy furniture manwas like, let me just drive by

(27:36):
this dude's house and mm-hmm.
See what's up.
Mm-hmm.
Drives there.
And he takes, this is all onvideo, he takes a video and
there's metal bars surroundingthe whole house, like on the
house, on the windows and stuff.
Everywhere.
Everything.
Oh my gosh.
Front and back.
There are.
Metal bars.
Okay.
Around the entire house.

(27:58):
That's a fire hazard one.
Mm-hmm.
Like, there's no way that thatasked any kind of inspections.
No.
Right.
And so he ends up talking to aneighbor.
The neighbor's like, yeah.
It's like super sketch, likemm-hmm.
Whatever.
And, did say, I think one of thevideos said that they did maybe
see children or something with,you know, they weren't sure.
Mm-hmm.

(28:18):
Well, a second person lives inthis house as well.
Who has another sa offender?
Oh my gosh.
From the registry.
A dude old man, like old, likeold.
And I don't know if they're likefather son or if it's like any
connection there, whatever.
Yeah.
one guy is rich.
He has a trust fund.
Guy that went into the, to thestore, so furniture store calls
police, and was like, yo, likethis is like super sketch.

(28:40):
He's owned the registry, he'sasking for beds for children.
Like he's right, whatever.
So they go and they end uparresting the guy.
Don't know what they found inthe house, Uhhuh, whatever.
Right.
But the one girl that initiallyreported on this, she just kinda
shared the other guy's videos.
She's gonna get threats frompeople and they're like, you
need to take this down.

(29:01):
You're ruining somebody's life.
And if he got arrested again,there had to have been something
in that meeting.
It was something, it wassomething they didn't just take
him in for questioning.
They arrested.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that is creepy.
So thank God.
Like this furniture store.
Yeah.
Trusted their instinct.
Yeah.
And knew something was off ahundred percent.
36 children he wanted beds for.

(29:23):
That's crazy.
Bananas.
It's a good job furniture store,dude.
Yeah, absolutely.
What an idiot too.
Mm-hmm.
What?
Crooks are stupid and I'm herefor it.
Or not just crooks, but youknow, bad people.
Well, we've got some bad spousesthat have gotten caught this
week, uh, doing their thing.
The Yep.
Two different instances.
Oh, there are?

(29:43):
Yeah.
Well, so the cold play concert,I think we have all seen.
Yes.
And I love that they got calledout by the lead singer.
Oh my gosh.
And now like, I feel so bad fortheir spouses.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Have you seen though thestatement released by the wife?
Mm-hmm.
Good for her?
Yeah.
Good for her.
But now like.
Cold playing somebody is a verb.
Mm-hmm.
Like, yeah.

(30:03):
So who's the other?
So this is horrible.
Okay.
Um, a credit union in JohnstonCity, Tennessee.
A lady was in line just tryingto pay her bill and looks over
and you know how like they havethe offices mm-hmm.
Outlining, like in the mm-hmm.
Lobby area or whatever.
Right.
And a lot of those offices arejust frosted glass.
They're not walls with floor.

(30:24):
Right.
Like, it's not private.
Right.
You can't really see in, but youcan see mm-hmm.
Shadows or bodies and you canhear and Yeah, whatever.
they're just sitting therebuying their own business in
mind, waiting to pay a bill andshe looks over and sees it's, it
was the bank manager, and shewas getting it on with an old

(30:46):
dude who was not her husband.
And you can clearly see like.
The, the shadows, you could seemovements, you could see it all.
I mean, like you couldn't see,see, but you could definitely
see what they were doing.
You knew it.
Was he an employee?
Do we know?
No, I'm just, I don't, I didn'tsay it was an employee.
Okay.
He just said, and nobody knowswho this person is.

(31:07):
Okay.
But they know it was, it was thebank manager.
And I'm like, okay, so you haveto be like a, a really hated
manager, right?
Mm-hmm.
Because, you know, all theemployees saw what was going on.
No, no.
Not one person tried to knock onthe door.
No one person tried to call andthey were like, Becky, Becky's
gone.
I don't really know what thelady's name is, but bye Becky.

(31:28):
Yeah.
Had to have been somebody thatthey were just ready to get rid
of.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I can't, I mean, in the middleof like, public, public had to
know that, that that was not.
Solid.
I mean, if you're a bankmanager, you are reasonably
intelligent.
You would think, you wouldthink, and you know, you, you've

(31:51):
probably looked at that roombefore for whatever reason and
been like, Hey, you know what?
I can see that lamp there.
I, I would assume.
She got caught and it is, thevideo went viral.
The person that was in July tookthe video and it's like, so the
original video, I think that gottaken out, but it was stitched
so many times.
Uhhuh, it's all over.

(32:11):
Like they're taking that down.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I'm sure I'll run into that, butI, yeah, the other one, did you
see his statement?
Like, what a jerk, it was like,sorry, not sorry, right?
Yeah.
That what was, should have beena private moment.
No, you were out in public andyou were Right.
Being a well, and the thingabout it too is if they would
not have reacted the way thatthey did, it would've moved on.

(32:34):
So, ha ha.
I'm glad you got busted.
They're either really private orthey're having an affair.
I died when I heard, oh my gosh.
Mm-hmm.
And they called them out.
Mm-hmm.
It was awesome.
And they stayed on them superlong.
Mm-hmm.
I was like, and it looked likeshe was laughing.
She was laughing until she sawthat she was on the, the, the
Bigo truck, whatever.
Because I mean, you can see herlike in the pers the, the woman.

(32:57):
Then she covered her face.
She's like, oh no.
Yeah.
And then not only the jokesabout them and the memes and
stuff, but then I didn't realizethere were that many people at a
Coldplay concert.
Have you seen those jokes too?
That's great.
So Little John, you know, fromour Yeah.
Clubbing days.
Yeah.
Is all over the place right nowtouring, and I'm like dying

(33:17):
because there was a, countryrock festival.
Okay.
And I was looking at the lineupbecause Dylan had sent me,'cause
a different person he wanted tosee was on it.
And I was like, Dylan, did youlook at the lineup?
And he is like, no.
Why?
I'm like, little John the yinyang twins is on there.
And, Afro man shut talk.

(33:39):
Like it's such a weird lineup.
It's like my playlist.
Right, right.
But it's such a weird, ourbipolar playlist.
Yeah.
With everything from the yinyang twins to Yeah.
Um, Hank Williams or whoever.
Yeah.
The country or something likethat, it's called.
That sounds great.
I was like, this is bananas.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
Saw a clip of them performing.
I'm like, oh my God, they're soold.

(34:01):
Oh, are yeah, that's true.
I cannot believe how old theyare.
I know.
And then they performed atSeaWorld.
There were people in the car.
Like I thought we, we, wecanceled SeaWorld because liked
animals.
You know what's popped in myfeet a lot lately though, is the
mime at SeaWorld.
You seen him?
Yeah.
He's funny.
He's a funny guy.

(34:21):
You know what made me feel,there's been a couple things
made me fall this week, but themain one was when our, something
was announced that Frozen wasfrom 2 20 13.
Oh.
Mm-hmm.
That was 12 years ago.
Mm-hmm.
Holy crap.
Yeah.
Moving on.
I did see another clip.

(34:42):
I think it was genuine at, likewhatever tour.
Mm-hmm.
And he tried to jump down onestage to the next and he.
Didn't, his knees were notcooperating and he tried to grab
onto the sign interpreter.
The sign interpreter is like,like still signing, trying to
looked down like, oh shit.

(35:04):
Oh my gosh.
His knees weren't in, his kneesweren't in.
I saw something I can't rememberthe exact details, but there was
a sign language interpreter thatwasn't really signing anything.
I see that.
I follow a girl that teaches allthe curse words in sign
language.
Have you learned any?
Yeah.

(35:24):
Do you wanna share one with theclass?
No.
Okay.
I was like, Dylan, look what Ilearned how to find.
And he's like, you just told meto fuck you.
I like, how do you know that?
Right?
Well, you're officiallybilingual now, so you can Well,
I can say a lot of curse wordsin Spanish.
Well, trilingual.
Look at you.
I only know the swear and I knowbeer.

(35:46):
See Cvaa.
There you go.
I'll buy you a bathroom.
That's what I needed to knowwhen I went to Mexico in
college.
Beer and bathroom, I mean, andtequila.
Well, I'm, I've never beenprouder.
Yeah.
Tequila is one of those.
I'm like, um, smell like baddecisions.
Bad decisions.

(36:07):
I saw a video that if you pourthe alcohol through a Brita, it
takes away the alcohol taste.
Like, it's like, no, like we'reallowed to try that one.
And I'm like, why didn't I knowthat you know this?
Right.
But like, where was this that'sworth buying a Brita for?
And who decided to try this?
A genius.
A scientist.
A scientist major.
Yeah.
Obviously not us.

(36:27):
Sarah, you were having ascientist house party.
That's funny.
That's funny.
Really?
A party I would not have beenat, but no, but no, when that
info got leaked to like, we'd bethere.
Yeah.
Thanks dude.
Cheap tequila was one of theworst decisions.
Oh yes.
Yeah.
Alright.
Do you want to do, am I theA-hole?
Absolutely.
Okay.
It's another wedding one?

(36:48):
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Am I the a-hole for suing myfriends after singing and
playing for their entire weddingand not getting paid?
I.
30-year-old male am a lawyer,but I'm also very active in
music.
I sing, I play piano, organ, andguitar.
Pretty much any instrument I canget my hands on.
I've performed at severalweddings often as personal favor

(37:11):
for close friends.
A while back, my friends Jimmyand Belle asked me if I could
handle the entire music fortheir Catholic wedding mass.
And you know, those things arefreaking, yeah.
Oh my God.
That meant singing and playingorgan through the whole whatever
that word is.
Lit, lit, liturgy, lit, liturgy,liturgy, processional,
offertory, communion,recessional, et cetera.

(37:32):
I agreed, assuming I was beinginvited as a guest and doing
this out of friendship, but asthe wedding approached, I
noticed I hadn't received anykind of invitation, not even to
the mass.
So I asked Bell and she replied,oh, we had to trim the guest
list, but you can still comeearly to rehearse and do the
music translation.
I wasn't invited.
I wasn't even treated like aguest, just free labor.

(37:55):
Still, I honored the commitment.
I arrived early, rehearsed, sangand played for the entire mass
alone, packed up and left.
No acknowledgement, no token, nofood, no seat, no thank you.
So I sent them a professionalinvoice, a reasonable rate for
performing solo at a fullwedding mass.
Nothing excessive, just what itwas worth.
They didn't pay it be ghostedme, Jimmy said he'd talked to

(38:18):
her, but nothing happened.
They ignored follow-ups after 30days.
I sent a demand letter, noresponse.
So I sued them for breach oforal contract and unjust
enrichment.
We have written messagesconfirming the arrangement,
screenshots of Bell, asking meto perform.
Uh, we had timing, songs andexpectations.

(38:39):
I represented myself.
They showed up.
Shocked that I followed through.
Guess what?
I won.
The judge ruled in my favor andordered them to pay the full
amount plus court costs.
Now our friend group is on fire.
Mm-hmm.
Some say I went too far.
Others quietly say, good foryou.
Bail's been posting crypticquotes about betrayal and money

(39:00):
over friendship.
So now I'm wondering, am I thea-hole for suing people?
I once considered friends afterthey use me for free live music
interviews to pay.
Alright.
Miss Wedding Guru, um, yourtake.
Okay.
So lots of questions.
Mm-hmm.
Who was he friends with?

(39:20):
Was he friends with both?
Like I, I mean, I don't think wereally got that context.
How close were they?
You know, personal favor toclose friends.
Okay.
So no, he's performed at, ohyeah.
So his friends Jimmy and Bell,so I guess he's friends with
both of them.
Mm-hmm.
I think he's the A-hole.
You think so?
I do.
I do because.

(39:41):
He's already said he's done itbefore.
Yeah.
As, but he is also invited as aguest to those weddings.
No, I think they were in turnalso AOLs for not at least
feeding him.
I think I wouldn't, okay.
Okay.
Let me start here.
Yeah.
Is, I don't think it's fair toask your friends to work at your

(40:02):
wedding.
Right?
Agreed.
Um, they should be guessed theyshould enjoy the wedding, um, to
celebrate you.
Well, yeah.
A yes and no unless, like they,you might want your friends to
be like, you know, they sang atmy wedding, or they did this at
my wedding.
Yes.
But I think that puts a lot of,mm-hmm.
Like weird, like expectations ona friendship.
Mm-hmm.

(40:23):
If you're my close friends, likeI don't want you working at my
wedding.
Right.
I want you to enjoy it andchill.
Yeah.
Like, I don't want you to be inthe DJ booth or whatever.
I mean, if they wanted to sing asong mm-hmm.
Or wanted to like, you know,like a small part to be part of
the wedding.
Cool.
Mm-hmm.
Then it's like a hard to, how doyou say no to that too, right?
Yeah.
We want you to be part of ourspecial day.
Can you DJ for free?
Yeah.
Well, and it would be differentif he said, you know, as my gift

(40:45):
to you, yeah.
I want to do this.
And can I stay for the pasta?
But I think it's all in theconversation.
Right.
Around it.
Yeah.
But she, I think, knew going in,she wasn't inviting him and she
just knew he did this for aliving and was like, well, I'm
just right.
He's an attorney.
He doesn't need my money.
Mm-hmm.

(41:05):
I'm very curious on how much itwas, how much he sued for.
Yeah.
the Catholic weddings are likean hour and a half long.
Yeah.
They're long, they take foreverand there is so much up and down
and, and pomp and circumstanceand all the things and know like
the, the, the Organy music.
Yeah.
It's not a fun time.
No.

(41:25):
Not really a party there.
No.
Um, we got married in our, ourreverend that married us was
like, okay, well, you know, likewhat kind?
I'm like quick.
Yeah, sure.
To the point.
Most are, these days most arereally quick.
People are usually like, that'sit.
Like that's it.
I was like, keep it as short asyou can possibly keep it.
I mean, I.
I think that the fact that theydidn't even tell him he wasn't

(41:47):
invited when when they askedhim.
Right.
Because they knew that he wasassuming he was invited to the
wedding.
Yeah.
He assumed that was gonna be hisgift to them.
Mm-hmm.
Going to the wedding.
Yeah.
So I think that they almosttricked him or they knew what
they were doing.
Yeah.
I really do feel like thoughthere's some kind of, we're
missing some pieces.

(42:09):
Um, probably pro, yeah.
They still had him go to thewedding, so it wasn't like there
was like a big rift.
Right.
If they still expected him tocome and perform.
Right.
He addressed it before, like,Hey, I didn't get an invitation.
I'm really curious on why Jimmysaid he talked to her.
Why couldn't Jimmy handle it?
Well, because he's a man.

(42:30):
I mean, I think taking it tocourt is a little extreme.
I'm not gonna lie.
That's my opinion.
If, and again, it depends on, tome how much it is.
Like what's this friendshipworth to you, you know?
Well, I obviously not much ifhe, they didn't invite him after
he performed.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I think, I don'tknow.
I don't know what I would do.

(42:50):
'cause I could, I know I wouldbe like, yeah, I'm gonna say
thank you though, according tohim.
Right.
I'm like, that's like, you knowwhat, like if, if I went there
and spent an hour and a half orwhatever it was, right.
Doing all this awful music and,well, I shouldn't say awful, not
fun music.
Right.
And I didn't even get a Thankyou.
There's some acknowledgement.
Yeah.
That's why I'm saying they'rea-holes too.
They are, I feel like this, thiswhole thing was just handled

(43:11):
poorly.
He should have been allowed tostay and eat if nothing else.
They do not have a day ofcoordinator.
They do not have a day ofcoordinator.
I would've handled that.
They should have said thank you.
They should have given him atoken of appreciation if not
paying him.
Yeah.
You know, you usually get yourbridesmaids and everything, a
gift.
Get him something, evensomething small, just as a thank
you.
But I, I'm just shocked that hewas cut from the guest list.

(43:33):
Yeah.
still inviting him or, but Iwould not have expected, okay,
I'm performing in the wedding.
I wouldn't expect to get aninvitation.
They know I'm gonna be there, soI'm gonna go to the reception
too.
But thank God he asked.
Yeah.
He didn't just show up and therewas no spot for him.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Not even in like the workerarea.
Yeah.

(43:53):
Yeah.
Not even sitting at the backtable with the, the tj.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I I think they're both a,they're everybody in the
situations a-holes.
Okay.
I What do you think?
I think that he was like, I'mdone with this friendship.
Yeah.
And I'm cool with like, losingit i'd be really curious how
much it was.
Yeah.
So I mean, outside of the courtcosts, like what was the invoice

(44:16):
for 200 bucks?
Yeah.
You know, I mean, that seemsawfully, awfully just childish
to sue over that.
But I mean, depending on mymood, I might do it.
I don't know.
I'm petty and I, I was like, yougo, it's the last time that
they're going to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.

(44:36):
I, I, yeah, I can, I can see itgo both ways.
Yeah.
Um, yeah.
I feel like if she had addressedit right or even been like, yo,
like, what's up with this?
I thought it was just a gift,you know?
But she, I think she knew she,she was in the wrong Right.
And so she was like, I'm noteven gonna go there.
It'll blow over.
Right.
It's how I feel like she tookit, I think took it, I think he
was expecting ever some kind ofresponse mm-hmm.

(44:58):
Or acknowledgement.
And he's not wrong for that.
No.
So the fact that she thenignored everything Right, right
after the fact, even after hesent the invoice.
Yeah.
Not even like, was this a joke?
Or like, Hey, I thought this wasa gift, you know?
Or like, I'm totally sorry.
Yeah.
My apologies here, I'm gonna payyou.
Yeah.
I, I, yeah.
That's why I think she's ana-hole too, Everybody in this

(45:20):
situation.
I don't like you.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Well, if you're not our bookies,we will see you later.
eventually, maybe one day.
Maybe.
But we love you.
We love you.
Bye.
And bookies, learn read.
Thank you for coming every week.
We appreciate you.
Okay.
Book this week.
Yes.
Zodiac Academy by CarolinePeckham.
Mm-hmm.

(45:41):
Twins secretly born with allfour elemental powers are thrown
into the ruthless world of theZodiac Academy, where they must
fight to survive.
Vengeful Faye, elites, deadlycreatures and their own destiny
to claim the throne that wasmeant for them.
This book.
So we need to make sure, and nottriggers, but just warnings.

(46:02):
Oh, it was like a bully.
Uhhuh, enemies to lovers.
Mm-hmm.
Kind of trope.
Mm-hmm.
there was a lot of bullying.
Mm-hmm.
Okay, so.
Audio book.
Yeah.
Very distracted by the format?
Like a dramatic production orsomething?
It was not.
So it was not just your readersand it wasn't even just like
multiple actors being differentcharacters.

(46:24):
There was like music, music anddoors playing sound effects.
Oh my gosh.
Moaning.
And it was very distracting.
I didn't enjoy it.
No, enjoy this format.
It took me so long to get pastit.
Mm-hmm.
I, it was distracting to me.

(46:44):
I never wanna read another booklike this again.
Mm-hmm.
Give me just a book.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just the actress.
I can do all that in my mind ifI want to.
Yeah.
the same actress played.
Tory and Darcy.
And so that was hard for me,very hard to distinguish between
the two, parts of the bookbecause it was a dual, point of
views view.
Yeah.
So they did like a little likedo, do.
Yeah.
They switched.

(47:05):
And the other thing too is theirpersonalities are so similar.
It's hard to know which one.
You sound the same.
They look the same.
They're identical twins and thenthey come across the same.
It's not like one is reallyfeisty and one is like really
mild or brainy or any, they'revery confusing.
Mm-hmm.
I hope in reading it, ittranslates better.

(47:25):
Mm-hmm.
But I still don't know which onewas air and which one was
whatever.
Well, they both had all four,right, but the houses.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very confusing.
Yes, very confusing.
Having, so I didn't like the,the, the format.
That was a little bit confusing.
Yes.
It took me a little while torealize that that little was
like changing point of view.
Mm-hmm.

(47:46):
I meant to go back and listen tothe beginning.
How old were they?
I think 18.
Very weird for me.
19, 18 90.
Very weird.
Why spicy?
And I felt like they were inhigh school.
Mm.
Well, it was supposed to becollege.
It was supposed to be college,but mm-hmm.
I just felt like they wereyoung.
Really?
I mean, and they are, yeah.
Really Stevie.

(48:06):
Mm-hmm.
Kind of.
I knew that they were college, Ithink they were.
So it didn't like break me out,but it still felt really weird.
Mm-hmm.
'Cause I'm like, okay, I'm goingto class.
And then it's like, oh, whateverthe sound effects were like
they're going.
And the teacher, yes.

(48:27):
But how old was a teacher?
Like, we could be like a, a 20,he 2-year-old, young, whatever,
like book called Spoiler.
I did read another one.
Okay.
Or two.
But, but he is very, very young.
He's a young teacher, but it'sstill ick.
Yeah.
For me.
Okay.
I, I can see that.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

(48:47):
I wasn't like bothered by it,but, you had it clearly in your
mind.
I think the ages.
Mm-hmm.
And I just kept getting lostwith the I'm going to class or
freshman.
Yeah.
I kept freshman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just felt really weird.
it there was some spice.
Mm-hmm.
the first book, I, I probablyget steamier in the later book.
Oh yeah.
I would say the first book,maybe two chili peppers.
Yeah.

(49:07):
There was like a couple ofscenes, but it wasn't overly in
your face.
Yeah.
Not bad.
The chili peppers definitely.
Multiply as you go.
I've read two additional books.
I'm fascinated with this kind ofa story.
Mm-hmm.
Like it's the, they're at theschool with the different house.
It's a Harry Potter dont list.
Did you read Dont List.
No, but I said it was HarryPotter Cross with Vampire Diary.

(49:29):
Yeah.
And a Splash of Gossip Girl.
Yeah.
Is how I described it.
Very much so.
Very much so.
But the young adult stuff.
Mm-hmm.
I'm all about that.
And the school stuff, like I wasreally, I'm really fascinated
with it.
So I was really interested inthe story itself and mm-hmm
figuring out where they weregonna be in which house and
what's gonna happen with thewhole kingdom, you know, all

(49:51):
those things.
Yeah.
Well, apparently there isanother book mm-hmm.
In this series called TheAwakening as Told by the Boys.
So it's from the Boys'perspective.
I've seen that.
I'm out of borrows this month.
Yeah.
So that's book 11 in the series,but I think I would wanna read
it now so everything's kind offresh in my head and see how
different perspectives were.
Yeah.
Well how did you feel about, I,I felt like every time I felt

(50:15):
like there was somebody thatthese girls could trust the rug
got pulled out from underneaththem, and I know that's what
they want you, the, that theauthor wanted you to take away,
but I got tired of feeling thatway.
Yeah.
I got tired of feeling like, andthat continues mm-hmm.
Boiler, sorry.
Yeah.
But I mean, I just felt likeevery time, uh, you know, they,
the bullying where they saddleup to'em and say, you know,

(50:38):
we're friends or whatever.
Mm-hmm.
And then just rip that all away.
was devastating.
Mm-hmm.
You gotta have somebody Yeah.
And have each other.
I didn't like that.
Right.
I did not like that.
Yeah.
No.
And, I think it's the, usagainst the world type of vibe
Yeah.
Is what, what it needs to be.
Yeah.
I swear to God, like I've readthese books before mm-hmm.

(51:00):
But I can't remember when Iwould have.
Mm-hmm.
It's really weird.
I know this is gonna happen, butI don't remember reading these
books.
It's the freaking weirdestthings.
I have predictions, on how someof these relationships are gonna
move forward.
Mm-hmm.
This if we record again and talkabout it.
Definitely gonna be an afterdark Yeah.

(51:21):
Episode because, did you get thefeeling that everybody at this
school was like, just insanelyattractive?
Yes.
Like, it's just beautifulpeople.
Yes.
Everywhere.
Everywhere.
Everywhere you look.
Yeah.
Even like the nerdy kids arelike, right.
Still like hot, nerdy.
The only one that I was like,okay, she's got to be like, yes,
with that name.
I was like, she's got to bechunky and frumpy.

(51:43):
But no, she talked, they talkedlater about how pretty she is.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah.
I mean everybody at this schoolis just you and I would fit in
just fine.
Totally.
But yes, just so attractive.
All of the dudes are likechiseled and all of the girls
have the curves.
Okay.
So which bad guy would you gofor?
I don't know.
They're all kind of mixed up inmy head.

(52:03):
I think Damien Me too.
Yeah, the dragon.
The dragon king.
Yeah.
Motorcycle riding.
Uhhuh bad guy.
Yeah.
Ugh.
Caleb's voice.
He was the vampire, right?
Mm-hmm.
Like his, Hey sweetheart.
He pissed me off.
Like, yeah.
And his voice was just, Ugh.
At least demon.
Like lets you know he's a jerk.
Like 100%, right?

(52:23):
He's a jerk.
And then Caleb like the samething with playing eth.
Yeah.
Seth was like the wolfie guy.
Mm-hmm.
And he would just come up andnuzzle everybody, which was
weird.
And then the whole vibe when heneeded to re-energize and he
would nuzzle up to the dudes,what is going on there?
Well, and that continues okaywith, especially with the Wolf

(52:46):
Pack.
Like, if you're interested inthis, keep reading it because
it's.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
I hadn't gotten any to anyspecifics about any of that.
Mm-hmm.
But it's laying there.
Everything's very open withwhatever.
Yeah.
Well and that's, I mean,everybody just strips down
naked.
Yes.
All book the whole and, and thatcontinues to like all the time.

(53:10):
And they all have nice underwearand that cur, but you know what
I do?
I do picture the creepy mermaidman guy.
The siren?
Yeah.
The teacher Max?
No, the teacher.
O'Neil Orion.
That guy.
No, he's not a mermaid though.
He is?
Oh.
Like when they go into like thelittle, oh, I picture him old.
I do too.
Like, like old, like creepy.
Yeah.

(53:30):
Gray hair baggy.
Just like Uhhuh.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
Uh, I don't picture himattractive.
It starts with a W.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But yeah, he was creepy.
Oh my gosh.
Nevermind what?
They have like a sex ed scene inone of the books.
It is just in college.
Well, you know, they're learninghow to, because birth control is

(53:54):
different.
Oh, they have to do what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
But, oh my gosh.
I have to tell you, I was sointo, the different names like
Facebook.
Mm-hmm.
Instead of Facebook and the STDnames were like, um, I don't
remember, but they had to dowith like fairies or, you know,
stuff like that.
I was just like, oh, that's,that's pretty witty there.

(54:16):
I want this made into a movie orlike a TV show.
A TV show, a series.
It would have to be a TV show onstars after 10 o'clock at night
with all of the warnings.
Well, apparently there's like araci, TV streaming app that the
other book is on.
Oh, really?
Yeah, they made it into a TVshow.
Oh, really?
Yeah, it was, but it's on like araci, like it's like a racy name

(54:37):
for the app, and I was like, oh,that sounds like it's mm-hmm.
X-rated.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Lots of naked lots.
Again, lots of nice underwear.
Mm-hmm.
Everywhere.
So when Tori, was drowning inthe pool, I thought of you, I
was like holding my breath.
I'm like, this is, you werelike, this is how Meredith
always feels when there's gonnabe kind of pool scene.
Yep.
I thought the characterdevelopment was really good.

(54:58):
Mm-hmm., Other than I think thevoices threw me off.
Mm-hmm.
Um, to differentiate between thetwins, but I think the length of
the book, you really got toknow, and there's so many
characters, but you kept themstraight.
The boys I was fine with.
Yeah.
I just got their names mixed up.
Like I, I associated them morewith their house or whatever,

(55:19):
whatever it's called.
But yeah, I agree.
And the way that they, theyshift and they start to
recognize.
The power that they have and allthe things.
Yeah.
Definitely a lot of growth thereand a lot of, development and
you get to know'em all reallywell.
The world building was reallygood in this.
That was the main point of, Ithink Book one Uhhuh is

(55:40):
developing this, this world foryou to mm-hmm.
Kind of enter.
Mm-hmm.
And, um, existing with them.
Yeah.
Uh, and it was very descriptive.
It was, but it wasn't like toowordy.
It wasn't overly agreed.
I think it was chef's kiss Yeah.
Really the right amount ofdetail without being too much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I didn't realize there was twoauthors in this book.
Oh, didn't neither.
Yeah.
So one wrote for Darcy's partand one wrote for Tori's part.

(56:03):
So crazy that they are still sosimilar.
Mm-hmm.
Huh.
Okay.
So with two separate authors.
Okay.
Um, did you realize that in thisZodiac universe there is 25
books so far?
No.
So that, like their spinoffseries?
Well, yeah.
I saw like novellas or whateverthey're called mm-hmm.
That are like the 2.5 orwhatever.

(56:25):
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
So I found, a blog calledBookish Goblin, and so she
researched all the books andthen put them in order how you
should, like timeline.
Oh, that's, see, yeah.
That's, um, and so it mixes upall of the, uh, different
mm-hmm.
Syn offs into the ZodiacAcademy.
Nice.
So I'll send that to you if youwant it.

(56:46):
Okay.
So it's 25 bucks, so That'scrazy.
You're for a series to get intoand be for a while.
And I, I do love that about aseries, like, I love finding a
series with a, a lot of, nowthis is a lot.
I have a feeling by the end ofthis series, these characters
aren't even gonna be in thereanymore.
Yeah.
Well, I think with the, thespinoffs, I think it, it, you
know, we could probably get intothe parents and like Yeah.

(57:06):
Like the, all the other.
Probably governmental, whateverstuff.
That's when I get lost.
Yeah.
Um, what'd you think about it?
I liked it.
Again, I think it, it's got allof the things like all like the
supernaturally stuff.
Mm-hmm.
Which is cool.
Um, it's got some spice.
Mm-hmm.
had the drama.

(57:27):
Yeah.
Again, I felt like it was a, aadult Harry Potter.
Yeah.
Meets Vampire Diaries.
Yes.
Meets Gossip Girl.
That's really a perfectdescription of what it is too.
Mm-hmm.
And also a little bit, you saidyou didn't do, don't list, but,
but those kind of books, samething where you pick your house
and pick your whatever.
Same with the relationship.

(57:47):
Drama, same.
They're just naked.
Um, not in adult list, but inthis one's naked.
Any KKID naked.
I liked it too.
And like I said, I've alreadyread a few ahead.
Mm-hmm.
Just because, um.
Invested in the story and notwhat they all say.
Mm-hmm.
I just read it for the, for thepurpose.
No, but like, I really do wannaknow like how things turn out

(58:08):
Yeah.
And some other things.
So, well, this book, they justlike stopped.
Like, it just, it did stopped.
Like there was so like even itwas relatively short time period
too.
Just stopped.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm like, well, what, I meanthere wasn't even like an
inclination that the book wasending.
It just was like done, done,done.
And I will say that the moreI've listened to'em, I'm able to
tune out, the play.

(58:30):
Yeah.
But with some of those scenesbeing spicier mm-hmm.
The noises are very distract.
You can imagine.
Like, it's like, I mean, I don'twant Jackson to walk in and hear
me listening to this because heis gonna.
Whatever.
Um, whatcha are you watching,mama?
Right?
I'm not watching anything.
I'm listening to it.

(58:50):
It's like, that's just as bad.
No.
I liked it too though.
Yeah.
I, funny thing I saw on Facebookin one of like, the book groups
that I'm in, for book recsmm-hmm.
A girl was like, I need arecommendation for a book that
is super spicy, like all thethings, but has a very basic
cover so I don't get caughtright in public.

(59:11):
That is funny.
That is funny.
They should.
That it should be the marketfor.
That's why you get a Kindlethough.
But that should be, yeah.
No, bare chested men holding awoman with like her top falling
off on the cover on amotorcycle.
Oh, right, right.
It should be, it should be justlike a cover of like an old

(59:32):
summer house or something.
Like fao.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
I like the book though.
Yeah, I did too.
What would you give it?
Um, eight-ish.
Me too.
Like eight, nine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More distracted by the audiopart and that, that, yeah, that
would be like the, the not sogreat part.
Yeah.
And then the, the Tory Darcything is just threw me off.

(59:52):
Yeah.
Um, yeah, I thought it wasreally good though.
Same, same added.
Did too.
Whoopsie.
Well, next week obviously wewon't be here, but we were
supposed to read.
Mm-hmm.
If you guys want to continue on,all this and more by paying
Shepherd and I just finishedthis.
Mm-hmm.
Because we just decided todaywe're taking a break.
You know how we are.
But it was actually kind of likedifferent, like you picked your,

(01:00:15):
your, your way.
Your path.
Yeah.
Didn't I just talk about this?
Yeah.
We wanted that.
No, I listened to it straightthrough.
'cause I I wasn't stopping likethe middle of what I was doing
to like pick a path.
Like, so if you listen to itstraight through, it just gives
you, you get everything.
It's like 15 hours.
Okay.
But you can pick different pathsof where this girl goes in her
life.
Oh, cool.
For different outcomes.
Okay.

(01:00:35):
I'm looking it up now'cause I'mstill gonna really read.
funny that we just had discussedthat.
Yeah.
And you're not already suckedinto the 25.
Uh oh.
We'll be going back to that now.
Yeah.
Oh, well this has been fun.
Fun.
It has.
But we love you guys.
Thank you guys so much forhanging out with us this whole
time.
We enjoyed it.
We had so much fun.

(01:00:56):
We love you.
We love you.
And we may be back.
We might be back.
If you see us in public, say heyto me, don't talk to Steph.
If you see us that together, youcan be like, oh, you're those
girls.
That's right.
And please, please do.
We love you.
We love you.
Thank you.
Bye Bye.
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