Jurassic World Rebirth: Dinosaurs Return, Humans Yawn

Two movie enthusiasts discuss the latest Jurassic World installment alongside summer blockbusters and theater experiences, evaluating whether the dinosaur franchise should continue or go extinct.

• Fourth of July weekend reflections and personal experiences at parties and lake houses
• Discussion of theater experiences and debates about optimal seating positions
• Deep dive into Jurassic World Rebirth's disappointing storyline and predictable plot
• Analysis of character inconsistencies, especially the pointless family subplot
• Praise for Mahershala Ali's performance despite the weak script
• Excitement about upcoming Superman and Fantastic Four films
• Speculation about leaked Superman reviews and the future of superhero movies
• Draft of favorite movies released on Fourth of July weekends
• Frustration with lack of consequences and stakes in modern franchise films
• Appreciation for the film's CGI dinosaurs despite storytelling shortcomings

Now streaming on Max: Sinners. Recommend watching Top Gun: Maverick for those looking for a better summer blockbuster experience.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
excuse me, is anybody sitting here?
Sorry, this is taken.
Sorry, tell me about the fourth.
How was the fourth?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
yeah, dude, uh, fourth of july, awesome weekend.
Obviously it's been a whilesince it's been on a friday, so
being able to take a little bitlonger break always refreshing.
How about yourself?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
fourth was cool.
I got invited to a party.
I got a couple parties that, um, I went to the fourth of july
party, had a live mexican band.
It was pretty cool and um, I Ireally honestly wanted to go to
the movie theaters, um, like themorning of fourth july at least
, but it didn't happen listen.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
What a better, what a better time to get to the
movies.
When everybody else is notthere.
You get a little almostguarantee yourself a little
private screening.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, dude, that's gonna lead me directly into our
movie.
We're gonna be talking aboutJurassic World Rebirth.
There was an early show.
We talked about this last timehow they're doing early, early
showings, but I think it'spretty traditional for when it's
4th of July weekend, I think italways does release on a
Wednesday, if when it's 4th ofJuly weekend, I think it always

(01:07):
does release on a Wednesday, ifI'm not mistaken.
Before we get into the actualreview, I have a couple things.
You know.
4th of July is here.
We're going to be doing a draftfor the second half of the
episode 4th of July weekendmovies, movies that were
released on the weekend of 4thof July.
It's obviously a big time atthe box office here, so I'm
excited to get into that withyou.
I think we both have six movieslisted that we're going to do
what?
Drafton is not reallynecessarily the biggest box

(01:29):
office.
We're doing just our favoritesthat we're really setting up.
Let's talk about your full July.
You were busy.
You were busy, actually, thepast month.
You've been busy every singleweekend.
It seemed like dude.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's literally weekend.
It seemed like, dude, that's alittle bit of my entire listen
man, I am taking uh summer tothe max, right, you know, really
enjoying it, dude, I can't, butI'll tell you what I'm getting
old, we're getting up there.
I'm tired man, but you know itwas cool.
I get to hang out with mybuddies, um, obviously you know
the guys, um, this is like year15 of us going to, uh, my
friend's lake house.
So you know, just bruise,bruise on the on the boat.
You know, hanging outsideplaying bags can jam just

(02:08):
pickleball.
I don't know if you're apickleball guy I.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I told myself I want to get into it this year, but
I've yet to go and do it it's alifestyle, so be careful.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Once you hop in, there's no turning back.
My man, yeah, you know I'm abig, uh, I'm a big golfer.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I like to golf, but I haven't done it this year yet,
so I'm still need to get outthere.
It's just too damn hard to doanything I can't stand this heat
.
Yeah, I'm a mini golf guy, youknow, but that's my, that's my
bag uh, speaking of your buddies, I did hang out with one of
your friends, cheyenne, on thefourth of july.
He was at the party oh really,yeah, yeah, yeah he said not to
mention it to you because he wasinvited to hang out.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I'm pissed actually you just started, uh, a big old
fight in the friend.
No yeah, he had to work so hecouldn't uh come with us for the
entire weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But yeah, he didn't stay too long with uh he didn't
stay too long at the party butlike I, I left um the party.
I left one of the band loves,which is like around 9, 9, 30
and just driving home in a smalltown it's probably perfect
timing for, like you, justdriving through and see
fireworks everywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
That was awesome, that's just like man, yeah, but
like.
But that's almost like uhcheyenne loves to like hop into
a party for like 15 minutes, sothat doesn't surprise me anyway
he's always the first one at theparty.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I get that.
He's like usually one of thefirst people leave.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Respect, yeah, I'm kind of the same way, though
he's got a game plan but similarwhen there's like this big
fireworks show that they do on alake and then when that's done,
you know you're driving backand there's like everyone has
their fireworks going, so itjust looks really, really great
Especially that time of night.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, you still hear me, okay, though, right?
Yep, okay, what was I going tosay?
Um, what I was gonna say goingthe fireworks awesome this year.
Fireworks are awesome this year.
Uh, I like going to the movietheaters on holidays.
In general, like you said, it'snot that busy.
Even if it is busy, I don'tmind it because it's pretty cool
, I think.
Um, I, however, I did go seejurassic world on wednesday.

(03:57):
I think you did too.
Yep, um, because it wasn't on athursday, it was releasing.
I'm not sure if it was shown inimax for you just yet, but it
wasn't on a Thursday, it wasreleasing.
I'm not sure if it was shown inIMAX for you just yet, but it
wasn't for me, because I thinkF1 was still in the IMAX.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, and I realize that's the issue when you have a
summer blockbuster season likethis.
Going back to centers, man, wewent from centers to
Thunderbolts, to MissionImpossible, and then I think
Lilo and Stitch had it for likea week and a half.
You know we're already here, uh, with f1 taking it, and now, uh
, jurassic.
But no, it was, uh, I don'tthink it released on imax near

(04:29):
me until friday, so I wasn'twaiting that long to see this no
, no, it would have been cool tosee an imax.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I think it should have been seen in imax but, um,
because it wasn't, it was shownin the small theater.
I think it made my theater alittle bit more busy.
It seemed more busy than whatit was.
It was a lot of people therefor a Wednesday on top of that,
a lot of people there and, ofcourse, there's a mom and kid
behind me and the kid was cryingA lot of it.
It was annoying.
It was a bad theater experience.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Dude.
I was so because we always talkabout our theater experience.
I was so excited to tell youmine because it was terrible
Really.
I was so excited to tell youmine because it was terrible
Really.
It started off so bad and Inever have Like I'm pretty good,
I don't like really get tooirritated or whatnot, but right
when we walk in, there's likethese group of dudes talking
full volume and it was finebecause it's like during the
trailers, but it was like youknew that they were going to be

(05:18):
a problem like halfway.
And I'm old guy mode.
I'm like it's I don't think Iwent to the nine o'clock.
I was like I'm pretty sure thistheater is like 18 and up.
After you know, 8, 30.
You said someone, no, I wasgetting big mad.
And then, um right, when themovie starts, they finally like
started to settle down.
I'm like all right, no, nobiggie, uh, and I'm watching
with my buddy dad, son, combo,come in.

(05:41):
We.
I'm a top row guy, there isnothing but open seats.
And then he's like loudlylooking for seats and he's like,
oh, it's this one next to him.
So he like moved over to sitright next to me.
I'm like, dude, the entire rowis good, you don't have to do
not.
Yeah, I was, I was.
No.
The best start of my uh, myjourney that's.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
I hate that.
That's like a like a pet peeveof mine dude, it's so insane um,
when you, especially whenthere's no one in the whole
theater, you know like that'slike a like a pet peeve of mine,
dude, it's so insane.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Um, when you, especially when there's no one
in the whole theater, you knowlike there's like rows and rows
available, yeah, that's justlike unethical, were they at
least quiet, the most movie yeah, they were, and you know it was
a kid so they were having fun.
So I got.
I got over it pretty quick.
But just like every time Iwould look to the left of me
seeing 10 empty seats and thedude sitting like we're sharing
a you know armrest there.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
I was like you didn't have come on, man, this is
weird for you and your friend,cause I know you can't talk to
them really like that.
Yeah, exactly, and you know Ilike to like as long as it's
like just us.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I can whisper like we'll react.
But that one I was just likeall right, yeah, yak, yeah.
But that one I was just likeall right, yeah, you're here.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Oh, you said, you're a back row guy.
I'm not a back row guy,actually.
Um, I'm usually right I'm inmiddle depends if it's just me
going to the theaters.
I like to sit in the aisle.
It's like quick in and quickout oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That is the hottest thing I've ever had you.
Yeah, that is actually nutty tome I, I like it, dude, like,
especially.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Like, if it's a movie that I don't, if I'm the only
one in the theater, I'll go inthe back, or I don't care where
I sit because, like, I'm likeI'm on my phone most of the time
, like if I'm by myself.
If there's only like a handfulof people, I'll sit further back
just so I can still be on myphone.
Um, but it was like a goodhandful of people.
I'll sit like an aisle, or evenlike within the first two rows,
at the end of the aisle, firsttwo roses dude.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
No, yeah, back on top row, back middle um, is the
preferred seat, if it is likereally crowded or if I have a
lot, a lot of flexibilitybecause I I might like do a note
on my phone.
Uh, if there's no one behind me, I will sit, you know, as it
was intended, in the middle ofthe theater, right like remember
when oppenheimer came out andthey had, like the seating chart
on how you like that's what Ilive by now.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Dude, it was funny.
You said I don't know if Ithink I told a story on the
podcast.
Uh, I went to cinemark to gosee oppenheimer because those
bigger screens.
And then, um, I bought myticket pre, like a week, a
couple weeks before, and went togo scan my ticket.
The guy who has having troublescanning the the ticket was like
just go ahead.
I get to my seat and it'spacked.
I said you know what?
I'm going to get my money back.

(08:08):
I returned my ticket eventhough I was sitting in my seat.
It gets more packed, morepacked.
I was like, oh fuck, I hopesomeone doesn't buy my ticket.
I look online to see if it'savailable.
That seat still is availablenow.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I was hoping somebody wouldn't come and see my seat.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It'll be not good, but I was kind of salt
eppenheimer for free.
Then rest.
You're more stressed about thatthan the bomb going off.
You're just yeah, yeah, um, uh,go go make some theater
experience.
Uh, I would you.
You go to amc.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
You're still right down there yeah, yeah, 90
percent of the time.
Uh, cinemark is closer, so likewhen in doubt, I might sprint
there.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
But yeah, when I can, it's always amc well, I wanted
to talk about this because I wasreally disappointed with amc's
popcorn bucket for this movie.
I don't know if you've seen it,it's literally just it's just a
regular popcorn bucket withdinosaurs on the side of it,
like it was nothing you couldhave did, like a dinosaur skull
head or something like that.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
That would have been cool yeah, I mean quite
literally we're coming off ofagain, not to just keep hyping
up f1 but the you know, literalhelmets from f1 like just show
me that you I don't know aboutit because they obviously didn't
even market it either, likejust what a wasted opportunity
for such a mega franchise youknow what?

Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm glad because I I you saw my instagram story I
posted I do have two full notesof pages.
And then one thing is marketingabout this movie and, um, in
theaters it was good, you know,showing before the movies, like
I was getting excited.
It looked pretty good.
Outside of that, I didn't seetoo much of it at all and it's
like it's mostly just becauseit's getting overshadowed
overshadowed by, uh, supermanand fantastic four.

(09:40):
So I mean, being real, wetalked about it.
This movie should have came outway earlier, or like in may or
something like that, or or pushback.
But being released on the 4thof july weekend is probably its
best chance it's gonna get notonly because it's a holiday
weekend everyone is off, um, andalso released a day earlier too
, so it's gonna look better forthe box office weekend, um.

(10:00):
so, yeah, that was probably thesmartest thing they could have
done for the timing for thismovie if they wanted to do it in
July, because between FantasticFour and Superman, I think you
got I know what you did lastsummer that's the only one I can
remember that's coming out.
There's several other movies,actually there's several other
movies in theaters right now.
I haven't seen that.
I want to yet.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
But you said it right now, all that is about to
disappear.
Like this.
We were here Tuesday.
I'm going to see Superman, sowe are.
We are in full, you know, nerdmode and this is going to be one
of the most important monthsfor like comic book movies.
Like this is going to.
This is going to set the tonefor what we get you know for the
next five years.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
So we're we're locked in in.
Okay, let's talk about, uh,nurture right now, because did
you see the leaked review of thesuperman movie?

Speaker 2 (10:53):
yeah, yeah, and it's like it's a pretty bad one
saying like this is the nail inthe coffin for the superhero
movies.
Um, how do you feel about that?
Yeah, I think that's somebodytrying to get attention.
It's like the guy who gave, uh,when black panther had 100 on
robin tomatoes, and then likethe one guy gave it a negative
review like all right, you know.
Like obviously you leaked this.
If you look at everything else,there's nothing telling me that
this movie's bad.
Right now.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm not gonna let some random anonymous leaked
review, uh, dampen my spiritsfor it yeah, I understand it's
one review, like I said it's Idon't know, it's from a.
I think I read that source thatreleased it also bashed another
superhero movie that was pretty.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh no, they were a fan of zack snyder superman,
that's what it was that yeah,yeah, um, and you know, like the
cultural war of like the snydercut bros, you know really
hating on like this type ofstuff.
That's why I'm like dude andlet, hey, we'll see it before
most people anyway, so I'm sure.
But even like the with there's,there's this thing that happens
Now you're going to get me on arant.

(11:46):
So like even review embargoes,like the telltale sign is when
the premiere is versus when themovie releases, right, if they
say like, oh, you can't talkabout it until the day before
the movie comes out.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Not a great sign.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
But if they're letting people see it two or
three weeks in advance you know,so many people have already
seen it that's probably a goodsign that they have a lot of
faith in the movie.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
So I'm not, I'm not worried about it at all.
I mean, james gunn is likeputting this whole thing on his
whole reputation, like he'stalking the movie, this movie,
up, like not just him, likeeveryone in the cast is saying,
like we had a lot of fun and itlooks a lot of fun in this movie
too.
It's very bright and very fun.
Um, I'm excited to see it.
Even if it flops, I'm sure it'sgoing to be a fun ride going
down.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, I mean like, and that's the thing too, he is
the captain of the ship, right?
It's not like this is just arandom director coming in from
the studio.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
He is the.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
CEO right of a DC studio.
So it's like you know, he wrotethe pilot, so this is his movie
.
If it does well, now they canbuild more, and here we already
know his plans for if it doesn'tI'm with everybody else.
This is not going to be a greatsign for the rest of uh his
tenure, but he's he hasn't letme down yet between peacemaker

(12:55):
suicide squad gardens of galaxyI I got faith in my boy.
You got a guardian sign rightbehind you, man yeah, I'm ready,
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Um, he even comes out like he's been having a lot of
fun in these interviews.
Yeah, he's come out like he'stechnically declaring this his
first superhero movie, becausethe other ones are like team ups
or like misfits and like.
So he added like a lot of funthing in that way.
Um, and he's he's definitelyputting his money with his mouth
because he's talking aboutfuture projects with superman.

(13:24):
Like he said, yeah, there willbe a sequel, but not for a
couple years, but we are goingto see that character again.
Um, he's talking aboutpeacemaker, the new season.
He's talking about supergirlcoming out soon.
Um, he's talking about these,these character, that character
you know, he has plans foreverything and like there's a
big thing that's being rumoredthat the sequel to superman is
going to be another batmansuperman movie and a lot of

(13:44):
people are kind of disappointedin that or kind of hating on
that too, which I'm kind ofhating on that too.
I was like can superman, likeat least cats in america have
three movies, but at least theywaited to the third one to bring
iron man in that too, you know,yeah, yeah, I mean I don't, I
don't think that'll happen.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
He already announced that.
Um, supergirl, obviously weknow, like lobo and all that
going on Matt Reeves just postedI know it's Elseworld, but he
just posted that he finished thescript for the Batman 2 and
they're going to be doing aBatman Brave and the Bold.
I think we have a little bit oftime before anything like that
happens.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Anyway, what movie are you excited or what movie
are you hoping to see being madein the DC world?
Like, what superhero, superhero.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
It could be a remake of a flash movie, something yeah
, I think, um, funny enough, theteen titans movie, um, if it
happens, has been the mostintrigued for everything that
they can do, uh, with the teentitans.
Obviously we grew up on thatshow.
It's almost one of the showsthat got me into superheroes
like in the first place, andthat was before superheroes were
cool.
I was just like me watching,you know, robin, you know

(14:46):
absolutely murder people for fun, uh.
So I I think it would be like areally like a really cool
dynamic to see them have a true,true, uh chance at the big
screen that's.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
I think they did confirm that with the original
like, uh, the cartoon version umteam time lineup.
Yeah, yeah, so that'll beinteresting.
I'm more excited to see.
I just wanted like a goodadaptation of robin in this
movie.
You know okay robin movie, soI'm excited for that.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah nightwing is one of my favorite characters of
all time, so I know this one.
I think the uh they're goingdamien uh for his robin, but
it'll be really like I want tosee the entire bat family.
You know, I'm not even thatmuch of a batman guy, but I want
to see how they flesh out thesecharacters we've seen, because
this movie is canon, with a dcshow that came out earlier this
year.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Uh, what's that?
Creature commandos, creaturecommandos.
And there is a cameo withbatman in there.
Uh, do you think we'll seecameos or any references to
batman and superman?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
um, I think we will absolutely um hear like a name
drop maybe, or like you know,the guy, the guy in gotham, or
something like that, um, maybelike a little cheeky nod, but no
, I mean, they haven't even castthem for this version of the
dcu.
Uh, so I think they're, they'regonna play it real, real safe
there yeah, yeah, we were.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
We um veered way off of jurassic World in this movie.
But going back, I want to talkmore about July 4th.
News Sinners is now officiallystreaming on Max on July 4th.
Have you seen it yet?
I already started watching it.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
No, I haven't seen it yet, but I'm so excited.
I know that's going to be onthe hell of a rewatch list,
because I want to break it down.
I don't know how many times yousaw the theaters, but I only
saw it twice and every time Iwatched it I was like, all right
, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta seewhat else is in here and it's
just fun.
Soundtrack is dope, uh,cultural, you know iconic

(16:36):
moments, it's, it's, it's goodto be back yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Uh, speaking of streaming, ironheart finally
finished on disney plus, haveyou started that one?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I did.
I finally started it, but Ionly made it through the first
three Because of how crazyeverything's done with the 4th
of July plans.
But I'm going to go.
It's not as bad as everybodywas saying it was.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I think it's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Listen, I haven't finished it.
It's not as bad, but there'snothing that I love about it.
I can say that confidently.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Um like it's not like something I was sprinting to
finish the first three episodesreleased and then the second
week came in, the last threeepisodes released, um, first of
all, I don't think that was agood sign, that like there was
just dumped them all out at thesame time.
Um, I started to watch thefourth episode.
I was like this, this, I justcouldn't get past the first 10
minutes, like this sucks, thisjust sucks.

(17:25):
And then like I'm just gonnawatch youtube videos recapping
everything.
Uh, because he, you know bigspoilers released on on online
as soon as the episodes droppedit was kind of lame so I mean
now I feel like I just don'thave to watch the show and it's
kind of weird that they set upfor the villain to be an iron
heart villain, like I'm not suretheir paths crossing the comics

(17:45):
.
But I was like you pass upwandavision, you pass up agatha,
you talk, pass up dr.
Strange like you just need tointroduce that character in a
non-magical movie is kind ofinsane to me very very right.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
And here's the.
This is something I feelstrongly about.
I don't necessarily.
I'm so tired of the trope oflike the superhero and villain
having the same power set.
Like, I'm over it.
I don't need to see it again,right.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, like you're talking about, like Aquaman or
even the first Iron man, exactlyLike every like another super
soldier fighting another supersoldier, like I'm good.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
So I do like the idea of like, all right, this is way
outside the realm, but like yousaid, man, and we were talking
about the villain popping upback in WandaVision.
So it's like all that buildup,all the hype that you guys had,
you finally release it, and I'ma D hero, you know it.
Just that's a head-scratcherfor sure.
Don't know why that wouldhappen.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, even there's talks of rumors.
I don't know if you've seenthese theories going around
already that Johnny Storm, notJohnny Storm, ghost Rider,
what's his name?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Oh, I'm listening cash, johnny blaze no, anyways,
ghostwriter.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
There's rumors that that guy who died in episode
three was ghostwriter.
Um, you gotta listen to thetheory about.
I'll see if I can send it toyou because like it kind of
makes sense the way they'regonna go with it, like if they
do it.
But I don't know because hedoes have a past with mofesto,
mofesto and we'll see it was.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Uh, his name is Johnny Blaze, by the way.
I'll just cool myself there um.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
One last thing before we get into the Jurassic World
review.
The first trailer for theOdyssey premiered.
Have you seen it in thetheaters?
Hell yeah, I did.
I love the fact that it didn'trelease it online or anywhere
else, like you had to go to thetheaters to see.
I'm sure there's, like there'ssomeone filming it like version
out there, but oh for sure itwas so cool.
Like it was after like the amccommercial, like right before

(19:42):
the movie starts.
Usually it was there and yousee um tom holland and I'm
having a little scene there is.
I mean they look, I mean youdon't see much at all, like it's
nothing really, but it was socool seeing on camera together,
and then you just mostly get thevibe of what they're going for,
like it is going to be like amythology movie oh 100 and like

(20:02):
it kind of gets you in rightaway.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I I was nervous.
I don't know about you, but Iam a big old movie trailer
skipper.
Now, uh, because I've just seen, them all and I'm like I just
don't want to be surprised.
So with uh, movies like this,I'm like all right, I know I got
at least 28 minutes of trailers.
So I showed up like rightaround like 25 minutes early.
I was like no, I saw onlinethat this was going to be here
and I thought I missed it.

(20:24):
But like AMC trailer came on, Iwas like ah, all right,
whatever.
And then the quiet and seeingus like this is why we come to
the movies, because I'm glad Ididn't see that like online
first, not for my iphone.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I saw it on a big screen.
Yeah, looks so cool.
I mean it's being releasedexactly one year from now.
I mean it's kind of insane thatwe got this footage even right
now.
I mean no, literally.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I was gonna ask how do you feel about that?
Because you know the typicalpoint of a trailer is to give
the hype.
No matter how much hype likethey give right now, it's not
like it's gonna last that long.
Do you think they should have?

Speaker 1 (21:00):
saved it.
They can get away with itbecause just one, it's chris for
nolan and two, it's an insanecast like you honestly don't
even have to release any trailerat all and people are gonna
still go see it each week, justput a new like just release
another name.
That's in it I mean, I wouldhave loved to see like zendaya
in the trailer.
That would have been sick.
Yeah, that would make me likeexcited to see it even more.
Um other than that there'strailers?

(21:22):
I don't think there's.
Oh, we did get a new trailerfrom ryan gosling's the movie um
the project hail mary, so andI'm really glad now.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
This is why I skipped stuff.
Dude, I'm reading it right now,like on, like on time, like I
just started reading it, andthen the trailer came out as I
was on chapter five of the book,so like I am avoiding that
trailer at all costs.
I have four hours left on myaudiobook.
It's like not a huge deal, butit was a book.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am.
Uh, I'm very excited.
I love the book right now likeit's.

(21:51):
It actually caught me off guardon how much I like it.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
So I did hear the description before, like maybe a
week before the trailer cameout, and it did sound very, very
good.
And the trailer does look good.
I'll give it that, um, but thetrailer is also like five to six
minutes long.
It's way long.
Oh, really, it's, it's reallylong.
They, they're just reallyselling the idea that ryan
gosling is not an astronaut, hedoes not want to do this mission

(22:15):
, and then like, oh yeah, by theway, there's an alien too.
You know like, yeah, theydidn't need to like either cut
some stuff out or or save thealien stuff later yeah, well,
the book is that's and that's, Ithink, why I was avoiding it.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Um, so, thankfully I'm way past that part.
But uh, like it's really funnyas I'm listening to the auto
book and I have like I'm thatguy too, I'll read it as I'm
listening, sometimes like I'mflipping through the pages, and
I can hear Ryan Gosling Like itdoes feel like this is a role
for him.
It reminds me of like reallyfall guy-ish, like his character

(22:48):
in there.
So I am, I'm pumped for this.
When is it coming out?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Ooh, I want to see Augustust september.
Well, I want maybe likeseptember or something like that
.
I can't remember, it's a, it'sa while away.
Like, especially, we're justgetting the trailer now.
Um, last week we did a movie,um a draft of movies coming up
pretty soon and there's ahandful.
Like I'm surprised we haven'tgot any trailers.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Like, if they're being released in november, in
october, november, like usuallythey start pumping out trailers
like five to six months at timesand then I remember when, um,
even like deadpool and wolverinecame out last july and I
remember we didn't get like thatfirst trailer until around the
super bowl.
Yeah this is almost way toolate.
Like you know, it obviouslydepends on the, but you want to

(23:32):
generate as much, like I said,hype, excitement, intrigue,
before that, the timeframe, soyou can really ramp it up as the
movie starts to release.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think there was any like.
I'm sure there's more trailersfor Jurassic World Rebirth, I
don't remember one, but even theone wasn't enough to get me
enough to get excited.
This movie going in, I wasexpecting it to flop.
I think it was on my flop listlast episode and I didn't think
it was that good I thought thismovie was this is skipping ahead

(24:06):
to my final thoughts about themovie but extremely safe,
nothing groundbreaking.
It was very forgettable.
It was not disappointingbecause I was going in there
already think it's gonna suck.
But, um, did we need it?
No, did we ask for it?
No, did they give it to us?
Yeah, yeah, and it made goodmoney, like the first wednesday,

(24:26):
I think, but I have no idea yetwhat it's done for the weekend.
Um, like I said the first daythere, I went there and, um,
there was, my theater was filled, it was packed and, uh, not
with just all groups of ages too, like older, younger, and um,
yeah, they had a great chance ofreleasing on the fourth of july
weekend because all the kidsare off school to it.
A lot of people are off of work.
Yeah, um, and it's dinosaurs.

(24:47):
Dinosaurs are always gonna selltoo, no matter, like if it's
jurassic world, like um, um.
What's that movie with um?
It just came out a couple yearsago.
Is the guy like from who playsdarth maul?
uh ray um, he's a white guy,long hair.

(25:07):
Um, he came, he came out.
He was six million years lateror something like that.
He came out with a movie likehe went and tried to have time
time traveled and it was like ina prehistoric time with the
dinosaurs and, um, I mean, thetrailers like that look made it
look really cool because he'srunning away from dinosaurs, but
the movie sucked and now thismovie sucks.

(25:28):
So I mean I don't know what thefascination is about dinosaurs
if these movies keep sucking.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Because it's like just that monster, like when you
think about even going back tolike the Godzilla's of the world
, right, any of those like megamonster movies, dinosaurs is
like the first one we've everexplored, like they're still new
to us now.
You know what I mean.
Like the original Jurassic issuch a iconic like world
stopping moment that of coursethey're going to always want to

(25:58):
go back to that.
Always try to give people thatfeeling and, more importantly,
always try to make that type ofmoney.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
But the least with like, like, I'm not drastic
world Godzilla.
Like you know, we're we'relearning more things about him.
He keeps, he keeps evolving inevery movie.
We're keeps evolving in everymovie.
We're not learning anything newabout these dinosaurs.
It's the same story, brandon.
Like they, oh, humans run intodinosaurs.
They get chased for the lives.
They escape the last minute andit's always a bigger, badder
dinosaur at the end of the movie, every single movie.

(26:24):
It's.
How much bigger can you get?

Speaker 2 (26:26):
you know that's exactly how jill is going to
come in and they try to changeit too right like they're like
oh, these ones are mutated orthese ones are, you know, have
this extra gene and a dinosaur.
Is that we could, you don'thave to do anything to.
With a t-rex, is a t-rex?

Speaker 1 (26:41):
right like I'm running regardless, man, you're
not gonna, that's just, and atthis point, like there is no
difference between, uh, like,these mutated dinosaurs and an
alien.
You know, it might as well makeit an alien movie.
All right, so we can get intothe jurassic world's rebirth uh,
five years post-jurassic worlddomination in 2022, and expects
an expadiation braves isolated,jeez louise equilateral regions

(27:05):
to extract dna from threemassive prehistoric creatures
for a groundbreaking medicalbreakthrough.
This stars scarlett johansson,mahershala ali and jonathan
bailey.
All right, I, I I had to gothrough my notes, like because
there's so much stuff I hatedabout this movie and it just
didn't oh my god, okay, I'm soexcited seventh movie from the

(27:27):
seventh movie of the franchisegood reviews.
A lot of people are praisingthis movie, saying it's like
they're like top three of thefranchise.
I don't know what these peopleare smoking, because this movie
sucked ass.
Uh, very different.
You know, steven, like you saidlast time, steven spielberg, um
, really backed up this movielike he.
He was excited about it and Iwas reading interviews with him
he's talking about like he'sbeen wanting to make a movie

(27:48):
like this for years, like hewanted to get back into the
drastic, uh, drastic world umfor years and one of his biggest
pitches is like we've only seendinosaurs in the world of
humans At the theme parks.
We're the ones controlling them, at least having cage and stuff
like that, even trying to trainthem.
At one point His pitch waslet's see humans in the dinosaur

(28:09):
world and I give him that itwas cool to see that.
It was a good change of pace inthat alone.
Calling it jurassic worldrebirth was kind of like a slap
in the face of the franchise.
It had nothing to do with theoriginal franchise at all.
None of the other charactersare mentioned, other than the
fact that I think they do namedrop like oh, you put them in a
park and something like that.

(28:29):
Like it was a lame line.
I was like it would have beencool to see like a tagline or a
news article with some of themain characters.
You know, this is the firstmovie in the franchise where
there are no original charactersin the movie.
Yeah, um, and it's, I'm tiredof them going back in time
showing a flashback.
Oh, they're mutating dinosaurs.

(28:50):
It's like this is like thethird, fourth time we've seen
something like.
This is like no one is raisingquestions, like and no other
team science teams arecommunicating with each other.
Like oh, we're also working onthis too.
You know, I I hated the plotline.
It's very predictable, like itwas very safe, there was no risk
or there was no consequences.
I feel like in this movie, um,it was very pg.

(29:11):
I don't think there's a drop ofblood in this whole movie.
Um, yeah, I'd say right.
First, like one of the familymembers in that that group of
small family, one of them shouldhave died.
I don't care who it was, atleast one of them should have
died easily.
And the fact that the villainturns and like pulls a gun, it's
the same thing.
And then like the, the, thebiggest, baddest mutated

(29:32):
dinosaur, kills him, and then II had like a lot of thoughts on
the ending, so we'll get intothat later.
What was your initial reactionto this movie?

Speaker 2 (29:42):
yeah, I was similar.
I I think I liked it a littlebit more than you, but I I think
the only word I could use I wasjust frustrated throughout.
A lot of the decisions werestupid, a lot of the character
moments were nonsensical.
Bro, I was like, literally, andlisten, it did the thing where
it got me on the edge of my seat, but I don't think like in a
good way, like f1, I was like,oh man, what's gonna happen this

(30:04):
one?
I was like have you lost?
your mind go paddle like go jumpin the water.
Why are you acting stupid rightnow?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
I was more so irritated with the movie itself
I was irritated from the get-gobecause they're in the beginning
like, oh, first of all, thebeginning is like a horror movie
, like I love that.
I was like, okay, we're gonnalean more into the scary stairs,
stuff, like, and it immediatelypisses you off, like the whole
movie is.
It's kind of like end game,like the whole thing is set off
by a rat stepping on a button.
The whole thing in this movieis set off by a guy in the

(30:31):
snickers bar and it like aclogging up one of the machines
and the blocking off.
I was like, first of all, Idon't think anyone would bring a
snack in there like that andjust toss their garbage on the
ground.
And it's a billion dollar techcompany and it can't withstand a
rapper.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, I don't even like how that scene was shot,
Cause like it's not like he waseating it because he had the
full it because he had the fullyou know get up on.
So it's like was he justholding this and then randomly
wanted to go into this pressurecontrolled room?
Like there's no version wherethat happens?
Like that was that's what Imean.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
like even from the start I was starting to get mad
yeah, I mean, but they did likeforeshadow it very well, like
with, like, having it all redand smoky in there, like you see
outside, like just gettingeaten, that was pretty cool.
But then it cuts to like black,and then you get these texts
come up and it kind of catchesyou up from what's going to
happen, what's been happeningsince the last movie.
Like, because the last movie itshows like the dinosaurs are

(31:23):
starting to live with theregular, like bird, you know,
birds in the sky, like oceans,like that.
And then like all the textreads like, oh, like, since then
a lot of the dinosaurs eitherhave died off or they migrated
to the equator because, like,this world is not meant for them
, for the condition, livingconditions at all and then the
next several scenes.
Brandon is the.

(31:43):
It's the cast pretty muchsaying the exact same thing.
It's like why do we need thetext if you're going to tell me
what happened?
If anything, I wish they showeda clip like like the in the
original jurassic world's, likethe little dna, like cartoon guy
, yeah hell yeah, that would becool yeah but like I, I don't
you kind of wasted your timewith the texting.
Like, this movie was like two alittle over two hours long.

(32:03):
This movie could have been anhour and a half, with a lot of
the dumb decisions that aren'tbeing made and, plus, that was
one of the scenes you could havecut out.
Um, and this movie also had alot of random scenes.
I'm going on a rant here.
I love it.
Um, scarlett johanssoncharacter.
I love scarlett johansson.
I think she's a great actress.
She was cool in this movie.
But what the fuck was her rolein this movie?
What was her purpose in thiswhole movie?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I don't even know why she was involved in this team
in the first place she waseasily my standout like favorite
, like she's the reason I wentto go see it.
She looked amazing in it, likeshe was dope.
But even there, you know, it'sthe scene in the trailer where I
don't know about you, whenthey're on the boat and they're
getting attacked and they gotthis huge monster and she has to
shoot it and she's like I can'taim.

(32:45):
I was like what do you?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
mean it's right there .
It's right there Like you canalmost touch it you know losing
my mind.
Yeah, absolutely a line there,but it's thoroughly joanne's, so
I'll let it slide yeah, butlike she brought almost nothing
to the table, like she had theonly benefit she was, she was
the only one who was smartenough to get an extraction team
to coming.

(33:06):
You know, like no one elsethought of that, she is the spy
and stuff like that.
Even the guy who was hired toget him out of situations like
that, he, he was the first guyeaten on a boat.
Like what the fuck is a.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
See, and that's what I like, and that's what you mean
by like playing it safe, Likethe moment we there's a
difference of the charactersthat are just around the movie
and like the named, like youknow, plot armor characters, and
there was just too many of them.
If they would have had like areally like one of the important
ones die off-run or like, likeyou said, someone in that family
died, then there's actualstakes to it.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
But by the time we get to the end of the movie.
I'm like no, that'll be allright, I know, I know what this
movie is yeah, um, the scientistthat's recruited in the
beginning I can't remember hisname off the hand, like that
that very handsome guy, um, I, Ididn't.
I didn't like his introductionat all.
Like he's this professor whowas like really invested in
museums.
They asked him to come help andit's like, all of a sudden,

(34:02):
this guy's the genius, like heknows what we exactly need to to
the whole purpose of this movie.
They're trying to get dna fromthe dinosaurs to create medicine
, to expand the life of humans,basically by 20, 30 years yeah
and he knew, knows exactly whatkind of dinosaurs you need to.
And he's teaching and, like he,they're telling him why or what
the plan is and they're tryingto convince him and randomly he

(34:25):
kind of stops and he sits down,he goes.
You know, there was a time whenpeople came lined up at the
door lying down the street tocome look at these dinosaur
bones and stuff like that.
And now no one even comes.
It's like this is like the mostrandom is monologue ever.
Like, and that was all I neededto convince him.
Like to go, like join this team, this dangerous team.
And they like oh, I thought youguys were just going to have me

(34:47):
out as a consultant.
Like I didn't know how to be onthe field.
Like he didn't need to be there.
I would have fought that more.
Um, and what a coincidence.
The DNA you needed is from a Cand C dinosaur, a lane dinosaur,
and of like a flat air dinosaur.
I like that, the mission to thedip.
Like it was just too much of acoincidence.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Like yeah, it almost felt like in a good way, it
almost felt like video gamey,you know, like yes, you gotta
get to the next stage, type, um,but I don't know, man, that was
a tough one see, but but thatalone would have been a good
enough story to carry out thefull two hours if they wanted to
.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Instead they had this half-ass, pointless b story
with this family that hadnothing to do with the plot line
.
They didn't add anything new tothe the story.
They didn't, if anything.
They they slowed down the moviea lot and I'm convinced that
this family was putting thismovie as rage bait because
everything they did just pissedme off.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Dude, I could not agree more at all.
I thought you're about to say,like you know, to get like a
little bit more kids in there,because, uh, that little stupid
dinosaur that was following thelittle girl around, I was like,
that's just, they wanted to sellmore plushes like that's.
That's how I felt during thismovie, like I just every, I felt
every decision that they made.
I mean they could have.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
They could have marketed that little dinosaur a
lot, you know like if theywanted to get more kids in there
, they could have like had likedinosaur sippy cups or some shit
like that in the theater.
Um, but going like, we'll talkabout the family right now,
actually, like the, theirintroduction was pissing me off.
It's a father, a single father,who has the kids for the
weekend.
It's his teenage daughter who'sgetting ready to go to college,

(36:25):
and the kid may be like 12, 13years old, and also the teenage
girl daughter's boyfriend whotags along.
They are sailing across the seajust like for fun they're just
like a summer vacation kind ofthing and on a small ass boat
too, in an ocean known to befilled with dinosaurs.
I'm not gonna do that.
This, and he sees nothing wrongwith it.

(36:46):
Well, there's plenty otherboats on the on the water too.
It's like I'm sure they are.
They're probably half your size, though, and of course, they
get attacked by dinosaurs, andthey had to be saved by Scarlett
Johansson's boat, and fromthere they did nothing to the
story.
They did nothing.
They even had to derailScarlett Johansson's boat off

(37:06):
like their, their planned attack, like it's shorter than like
two hours to go out of their wayDidn't affect the story at all.
Like, why make that a big thingif it's not going to affect the
story at all?
no, no I mean they went off.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
They were literally not with the group for the
significant part of the movie.
So what were we doing?
You know, they were just otherpeople who were in danger that
never had any consequences ofthat danger.
Like when you think about that,that's just such a stupid thing
to happen.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
And the boyfriend, I mean he was there purposely to
piss you off because how lazy hewas and like he didn't do shit
for this movie, but because hewas so lazy and because he was
such a jackass in this movie, itmade me hate that father even
more.
We're not standing up for it,like to to him, or like telling
them what to do, or like youwere on a boat.
There's so much you can likeyou.

(37:54):
There's so much you can do.
You have to like put your footdown and especially with him,
being a hispanic dad, I was likemy dad would not put up with
that.
I would not put up with that.
You know, like it wasridiculous, like if it was a
white guy, maybe I could seethat being more realistic, being
a pushover, but no, that wouldnot like that.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I don't know what they were trying to do there,
because they tried to give theguy some character moments, but
even those pissed me off like hegot.
Yeah, there was nothing thathappened and, uh, no spoilers.
But the funny part about themovie is when he was supposed to
be standing watch he's like oh,I gotta go to the bath, I gotta
go piss yeah, it takes a milehike down the road I was like

(38:34):
what is it sinners like?
Bro, where are you going?

Speaker 1 (38:38):
I hate that trope dude but that was probably the
only scene that made me jump inthis movie is like when they
were about to jump on him andthen the pterodactyl came jumped
on.
It was like a whole fight scene.
But then he's zooming out ofhis face.
You don't even see what'shappening, but that was.
I was like I'll give him that.
I like that scene.
Um, there were a couple sceneswhere the father kind of gains
respect for this, that newboyfriend, and then he just does
something else to piss you off.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I was like yeah, because I think the one time he
was like you know, like hey, Irespect, and he's like I don't
need it or some stuff likesnarky ass comment, it's like
dude, chill out, chill out.
But I mean that sums up exactlymy thoughts about the movie as
well as, like when the dinosaurswere like around, I like the
movie.
It's good movie, like I, youknow, I was enjoying it anytime.

(39:22):
It was like all right, breakfor character, break for story.
I was like this is not working.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, at all yeah, you're like get back to the
dinosaurs come on.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, come on.
Let me see him rip somethingelse in there.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
But but, that being said, I think Duncan was
probably my favorite part ofthis whole movie, played by
Muhammad.
Did I say Muhammad Not?

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Muhammad.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Mahershala Ali.
Mahershala Ali, he was myfavorite part of the movie.
They gave him a good backstory.
He was a widowed father.
No, he wasn't a widowed father.
He had a son that passed awayand he was divorced from his.
They gave a very sad backstory,which is why he's such a heroic
uh character two kids.
He's the one who wanted to gosee the kids.
He's the one who went to godistract him at the end of it.

(40:01):
Um, but they did that timing,that monologue very randomly on
the boat with scarlett johansson, like oh, they're good friends
and like so how are you doing?
Like it's been tough.
I was like you guys were justbullshitting like a second ago.
It's there's a whole monologue.
That was just like random andit felt so misplaced and I like
that backstory for him.
It was cool, but I don't knowthey could have done a little

(40:23):
bit better.
Um, but he was.
He was definitely the best partof this movie for me, like he
was the most like grounded andmost leader in this movie for me
yeah, he was um, listen, youknow how I feel like this only
irritated me more about us nothaving a blade movie.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Like he has this, this natural elevation that he
brings to movies, even if it'sthe script is bad, like you can
tell.
He was like no, my characterneeds something.
And without him like doing that, I would have been like why do
we care about these stupidlittle kids?
But like him constantly beinglike no, we gotta like
prioritize and you know, lookingat them, I'm gonna get you guys

(41:01):
out of here and, like you, feltthat right, like that meant
something.
But you know everybody else,they, they were kicking rocks
for me you know, I got a?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
um interesting fact that towards the end of like his
character.
How was his character destinedin the movie?
We'll save that for a littlebit later.
But how did you feel about theCGI in this movie?
I thought it was very good.
I thought it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, it was actually one of the moments I was
kicking myself for not seeing itin IMAX.
I actually turned to my friendand I was like this would have
been amazing in IMAX and I feellike I'm missing.
I don't know if you like feelthat sometimes I feel like I'm
missing a little bit of a movienow that I'm like used to seeing
it in a bigger way.
But no, you know, people liketo shit on like CGI, that you

(41:45):
subbed it like how we're doing.
If you look at Planet of theApes movie, if you look at this
like avatar, we have it rightand this is how it's supposed to
be used.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
I think this is the first movie.
I read that they didn't haveany practical dinosaurs.
If I'm not mistaken, it was all.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
CGI.
Oh really.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Okay, yeah, speaking of CGI, like how about the first
CGI sex scene of a dinosaur?
Like that was insane, it's notneeded, it was random, it was
like we did not need that.
I'm sure it happens in reallife about like well, dinosaurs
have sex.
But like it was like, oh, weneed to distract them.
I was like I think they'repretty distracted right now.

(42:21):
I was like and they had long asstails like it was weird and
then he was like touching themwhile they were doing it.
Like you weirdo.
Yeah, um, that was like theeasiest easiest extraction of
the dna, I think like that, likethey kind of like.
I like that dinosaur a lot.
I can't remember what's on withall the long necks.

(42:42):
I like that.
You know that's everyone'sfavorite dinosaur.
Yeah, um, but I wish they wouldget a more challenging dinosaur
like to get the extraction from.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
I see like hard in a world where they're just around.
Like that's how I felt when wesaw those you know, big, big
dudes just rolling around.
I'm like, yeah, I guess ifthere's like you know, eight of
them around in the wild, likethat's like a bug bite tool, you
know.
So I did like that one versusthe uh velociraptor type or like
the flying one that was chasingthem down, you know, trying to

(43:11):
murder them for the head I, uh,I did appreciate that difference
um, how about the t-rex in thismovie?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
you had the smallest cameo in this movie.
I was like you what I?
I wish they used them more inthat boy was swimming, though he
was swimming.
But then, like the moment yougot it, like oh, he's like swipe
or no swipe, like oh, rats, andhe walks away like he's gonna.
He got his head stuck in therock and he just nah, it's not
worth it that's like the hardpart about.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Um, you know these movies as well because as I'm
watching it I'm like, all right,I'll buy for a buck that if
they see a human like it's gonnaor like you, you know it's it's
a creature like they're goingto be curious.
I was like, but what the hell?
Like what that T-Rex, who justwoke up from that nap, like
really chase them down that muchand then go up so like in the

(44:00):
wild, like I'm sure things crosshim every day.
It's not like he's like I don'tknow, but obviously when they
had the big yellow raft, that'lldraw his attention a little bit
more.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
But yeah, you got to remember too, like this is the
humans in their world, Like thisis probably the first time a
lot of them never seen humansbefore.
You know too, Like I feel likethey were a different reaction a
little bit too.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Yeah, I don't know if the reaction is straight pissed
off, though.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Hey, you know what that's nature I, I wouldn't be
caught dead there.
So I mean, there was a moment Ithought, like that t-rex was
gonna help them, like like fendoff other people, like to leave
it, to like to leave the kidsalone, or something f.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
No, that dude was trying to have a little girl's
sandwich.
He was.
He was actually like making eyecontact, chasing them down,
which I actually appreciate.
Like, listen, like I said, whenthe dinosaurs are on screen I'm
happy and I like that, likethey just want smoke, you know,
he saw it.
I hated that scene leading upto it, like it was tense, I
guess, but like I was like girlmove, like why would you stop in

(44:59):
front of it?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
like that shit was driving me crazy um scene like
where she drops the raft andit's gone, like I mean.
First of all, they showed thatin the trailer.
I wish they didn't.
Um, and I don't know the wholescene, like you're probably 13
feet away from a dinosaur andyou're taking your time, or yeah
, I don't know.
Roll with it like and then shelike drags it and makes the most

(45:20):
noise too, like you, idiot andthen the one that me and my
friend kept laughing at.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
We're like where the hell did those oars come from,
because that those oars were notinflatable and it was bigger
than the like what the tiny raftwas.
It was like those didn't justspawn in there.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It was interesting for sure, yeah, and speaking of
like just random stuff thatspawned, like how about the next
dinosaur, the volop, like theone that they had first of all?
Like they realized like, oh, wegotta get the flight that was a
velociraptor or something likethat, the one that flies, yeah,
whatever it's called.
Um, we gotta go hiking up themountains.
Cut to a different scene, cutto the back to them.

(45:57):
They're already at the top ofthe mountain, like there was no
struggle at all, like ain't noway, they're all there no one's
out of breath.
This is what they've remainedfor and they're all right, rock
climbing experts too and they gostart climbing, descending from
the, the rock like the mountain, to go find this cave and they,
oh, there's stairs right here.
I was like what the hell, likeno, there's no explanation what

(46:20):
those were, because it lookedlike a temple or something like
that kind of.
Yeah, I thought there's gonnabe a scene where they they go
down there into the nest and,like other guys come back from
the.
Oh guys, there was actuallystairs here the whole time.
You know, that would have beena funny scene, I thought.
But then I don't know, I justdon't know what that thing was
like that.
That it was weird.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
They never go back and touch on it no, and then
they like immediately, even likeum, with that.
I think it was a, maybe it wasa pterodactyl.
I don't agree with dinosaurnames, but like with the eggs,
like them being able to get it.
You know that one was a littleeasy, like oh you just know how
to handle a dinosaur gag likeout of nowhere, like all right
man pop off also a dinosaur eggwould have been a pretty cool

(47:00):
popcorn bucket too.
I missed that now you'retalking, did you?

Speaker 1 (47:03):
see, actually brought this up like, yeah, the amc
popcorns bucket.
I don't know which theater soldthis, but there was a popcorn
bucket that looked.
It was huge, it was flat, butit was huge.
It was a footprint of adinosaur.
It was almost like a platter,okay, but it was impractical
because, like I said, it wasprobably the size of Captain
America's shield just laying onits side.
It looked cool.

(47:24):
The concept was cool.
Alright, it looks cool.
It was.
The concept was cool.
All right, fair enough, butthat mean the dinosaur egg would
have been a cool thing.
Um, and then, all right, sothey got all three dnas.
They're now they're gonna makeit to an extraction point, which
is like the old facilitylanding pad for helicopter pad,
um, that the scientists used touse on experiments.
And sure enough, they go thereand like, oh shit, like there

(47:45):
was something they'reexperimenting with something
here and what are the odds thatit's still in there?
You?
know like it's been there for 17years and it's still ready to
go actually, and it it couldhave got out at any time like,
why does it, like, does itchoose to go back there every
night?
Is that like it's nest?
Is that it's cave?
It's, it was too muchcoincidental.
And man, oh man, oh man, wasthat a cool scene?

(48:08):
I'll give him this.
It was a cool scene when itcomes down by in a helicopter,
like when you see how big andmassive it is.
That was insane, dude.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
And I like that's where, and that's like my
frustration with these types ofmovie.
It's like I don't need a lot,you know, if it's a dinosaur
movie, just show me somethingdope and very like, and they did
it so good with it coming outof the fog and you see the
lights and you're just like, ohno, my jaw actually dropped.
Very much so Dope introduction.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I mean it's called a D-Rex.
I forget what the D stands for,but they never say it in the
movie.
I think I read in thedescription I mean I read in the
fun facts what it's reallycalled movie.
I think I read in thedescription like um.
I mean I read in the fun factslike what it's really called.
But it's like it's kind ofweird.
They should at least namedafter it once um.
But the biggest thing in mutated, like it was several different
dinosaurs.
They had like eight limbs forarms and um, it had a huge tail.
You don't really see the fullbody of it like.

(49:02):
First of all, it's also darktoo.
You don't really get a goodglance of what it really looks
like um, and it's ginormous.
But, like I said, it's nothingdifferent than any other ending
of the movie too.
They all almost get caught andeaten.
I mean there is a side storytoo where the main villain, who
was trying to get the DNA, turnson them.
He doesn't really turn on them,he just pulls out a gun.

(49:22):
I was like I'm getting the shitout of here.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
And then getting the shit out of here, like, and then
, um, like, when I say, likecharacter moments, that maybe if
a guy is I don't know holding agun, you don't charge him, like
little girl, like that waspissing me off, that everybody
was just like letting her popoff, I was like, have you lost
your bro?
Maybe wait until you're off theisland to then be like, oh, by
the way, this is what he did andyou know not as he can.

(49:48):
Literally no one's gonna oh, bythe way, this is what he did,
you know not as he can.
Literally no one's going tohear from you ever again Like
this.
Is my moment to stand up, Shutup.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah, that was very stupid.
Like the little girl liketrying to be friends with the
dinosaur still, and stuff likethat, it was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
You don't know what these things are.
You have no concept of likewhat this thing can do, but put
it in your backpack that seemssmart.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Um, this is what I'm talking about with the ending.
Like yeah, obviously you knowthe ending.
Like they die and stuff likethat.
And um, they get a life rope.
Where the fuck are they drivingto?
Where are they going?
They are just driving off intothe sunset.
Anyone who was looking for themis dead.
You know, like the helicopter,like they're on a lifeboat going

(50:35):
into the ocean where they justfought off a bunch of dinosaurs.
From the beginning of the movieI was like you guys are all
relaxed and stuff like that.
It would have been a moreinteresting movie, I think, if
they would have shown the D-RexInstead of just showing for five
minutes.
He was a good plot point in themovie and like, yeah, they
escaped the island by swimming.
Like floating away in a boat,make the dinosaur able to swim.
He's mutated.

(50:56):
That would have been cool tosee.
Like, oh shit, like we thoughtwe'd get away from him, but no,
his ass is right underneath us.
On top of that, she takes adinosaur home with her.
Either A the government's gonnato come looking for that
dinosaur or she's going to treatit like a dog and make it like
a family household petRidiculous right there or two.

(51:16):
It's going to die because itcan't live in the human world.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Literally that's how they started the movie, talking
about why they moved to theequator.
If anything, I'm with you.
Hey guys, you're going to jail.
Okay, the equator, if anything,I'm with you.
Hey guys, you're going to jailokay actually like you're in
prison, put the hands up.
I don't care what you have.
You, you have what you havedinosaur, dna, hell going
straight.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Now have you lost your mind I think they did
establish that, like that partof the world is forbidden to go
to too.
Very much so.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
That's why they couldn't call for or they didn't
want to call for help.
You know it's.
It's when a movie breaks itsown rules that really just
starts to piss me off.
Don't explain something andthen just completely disregard
it.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, and Scarlett Johansson's big dilemma in the
movie was like so what do we dowith this Like?
Do we give it to this corporatewho's going to make millions
off of it, or do we give back tothe world who's?
I was like I mean, is itguaranteed you can make DNA Like
is it going to help the world?
Like it's?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
That's something that also didn't make sense.
Like her introduction was beinglike oh, I heard you're.
You know, this mercenary typethat can be like a little shady
has no moral compass.
Like you know, can really dothat.
And I know she was like oh, youknow, maybe that wasn't true,

(52:32):
she's really good like slick,who knows well, it's a black
widow winner, it's the black.
And then, like first sign oflike struggle, she's like maybe
I don't need a million, like abillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
You know like, shut up, dude, shut up I'm.
I'm kind of glad, though theydidn't have a romantic
relationship in this movie,though, like between it.
Didn't need it, didn't want itum, they did a lot of setup for
possible sequels, because adonisd-rex is still there, yep, and
also like, um, there was alsoother plot points that didn't do
anything like that.
There was a point where thevillain saw a plane crash that

(52:56):
landed like right there.
It was like, did nothing withthat, yeah, um, they also could
do that with the next movie too.
Like, if they do one, I'm surethey're gonna do another trilogy
, which they shouldn't.
Uh, because their boat is stillthere too.
I'm sure they're like, the nextpeople are going to come like,
oh, there's a boat here, there'speople here, but once before
you know, and the d-rex is goingto come by, or something, I
mean, they set up endlesspossibilities for the sequel.

(53:16):
It's going to be dumb, it'sgoing to be stupid, we're not
going to need it.
Um, this movie is veryforgettable.
I wish I'd seen it.
I wish there was a better moviereleased in the fall of July
weekend.
What would you give this movie?
One out of 10.
Oh, no, no, before they get tothat, the ending I was talking
about, like with what's his nameat the one who's?
Duncan, duncan's character, he,he lives at the end of the movie

(53:39):
.
There was a big possibilityLike I think original script he
was going to die in that movie.
I kind gonna die in that movie.
I kind of like that endingbetter for him.
But they kind of him and thestudio all agree they're like no
, like I'm sure only becausethey talk about possible sequels
?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
yeah, I mean when you have a big, but that's what I'm
talking about.
Where are the stakes?
Right, like everybody, like twoof their allies died and the
one bad guy died, but like ifyou would have had um him truly
sacrifice himself, that wouldhave been like damn, that's why
you don't go?
to that island.
You know like versus that.
But again, if you got mahercharlie and he's interested in
doing a franchise for you, youkeep him alive, but then just

(54:16):
don't put him in that situation,you know yeah, but because,
like that gave the charactermore meaning.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Like, like he, he was probably going to be okay with
dying because he could be withhis son again, you know, and he,
he was sacrificing himself forkids like he loved, he was a dad
.
He was a dad without a kid um,he was okay with being a
distraction.
And then like, randomly, andwhere did the drx go?
He's not dead.
No, he sees the light too.
That you shot off this moviewas stupid as hell.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah and that's like why I didn't like it
, because, yeah, even that partlike if he came the light,
there's no version where hewould have got away with that
with still the flare in handLike I just it could have been,
it could have been donesignificantly better.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
He didn't need to.
He could have just thrown theflare From the beginning.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
That's what I was like, yo just toss it like get
far enough and like showmovement.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Or like far enough and show movement.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Or even start a forest fire.
You know, I think the lastthing they needed was the world
burning around them trying toget off.
Maybe that would have sent somered flags.
Somebody could have sent somemore help for them.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
What would you give this movie 1 out of 10?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Man, I think I'm thinking like 5.
10, man, I think I'm thinkinglike five.
Yeah, yeah, I'm in the fiverealm like five, five or six
because, like I said, I didenjoy it when the dinosaurs were
on, but it just, it just pissedme off so much that I I can't
really give it like into thepositives.
So, yeah, around that five, six, what about you?

(55:45):
Um, five as well, I think.
Give it 2.5 on letterbox.
Yeah, it's definitely a.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
What about you?
Um five as well.
I think I gave it 2.5 on longerbox.
Yeah, it's definitely a fivefor me.
Um, I'm probably never gonna gowatch this movie again.
The only reason I likedwatching it is because scarlett
johansson man she looked good inthis movie yeah, yeah, you know
what?
A fun fact about that.
Like, uh, jennifer lawrence wassupposed to be in this movie.
She was as her character andshe turned it down really.
Um, as well, as well as glennpowell this.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
So that's really funny to say that this seems
like a glenn powell movie forsure, especially the trajectory
that he was on.
Uh, like you know, he'scrushing it right now.
Uh, and his, his trailer forhis new movie released right
before this one too.
Um, but I could.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I could have absolutely seen him in here yeah
, yeah, I mean, the characterslike the actors themselves
weren't the problems in thismovie.
No, no, it's script 100 script.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, thecharacters like the actors
themselves weren't the problemsin this movie.
No, no, it's script 100 script.
Yeah, yeah, um yeah, good movie, jurassic world, and not good
movie.
I don't know why I said thatjurassic.
Jurassic park is a goodfranchise I liked it like,

(56:43):
except for, like the lastjurassic world movie.
Um, the other ones I reallyliked, I like vince vaughn was
in there at one point.
You know, it's kind of it'skind of insane to see like some
of these famous actors are inthe same world as this.
I wish they would have donemore references to the originals
.
Do you think chris pratt wouldcome back in the future?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
probably, you know, especially as things wind down.
I was very I think this is thefirst one that what's his name?
Jeff Goldblum was in it.
I subconsciously was likethere's no weird voice in here,
but still, like you said,there's so much they can do.

(57:21):
This isn't going away anytimesoon and, similar to you, I
think it made enough money.
I think when I saw it it waslike $, you know, to start this
off.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
so, um, good on them yeah, yeah, jeff goldblum, I
wonder.
I would like to hear jeffgoldblum's take on this movie,
if he wants to go see it um, butyeah, like I said, their best
chance of what happened for thismovie was opening up on um
memorial day or not memorialfourth of july weekend.
Um, with that being said, Ithink it's perfect time going

(57:51):
for a draft, like for our, forour favorite movies that were
released on fourth of julyweekend.
Like I said, it's notnecessarily the most that made
the most money, just movies thatwe liked that we probably went
to go see in theaters.
Yep, all right.
Uh, we're doing six movies eachfor the best opening weekend
for fourth of july.
Do you want to go first?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
yeah, I'll go first.
Um, so didn't watch it intheaters.
Um, but coming to america, um,like, how, what else do you
start with?
Um, obviously, uh, you know,phenomenal culture impact.
Eddie murphy at his prime.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Uh, can't, can't, start without that were you a
fan of coming to america too?
Uh?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
we don't talk about that.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Yeah, keep it focused for my fourth of july weekend I
got.
Spider-man 2 came out 2004 Ibelieve, yep 2004,.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
I believe Yep, and then you can go back to back.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
You know, for my second choice.
I got Batman 1989.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Okay, yeah, so two comic book movies as we've been
talking about superhero moviesall day, back to back yeah,
absolutely Setting the tone Forme.
I know this is a little bit ofa weird one, but Purge, all
right, I'm going back to backPurges the first Purge and Purge
forever.
I remember, even like thesecond Purge, seeing the

(59:22):
ambulance on fire.
I remember seeing that in thetrailer and being like, okay,
what is this?
The Purge had everybody in achokehold when it first came out
.
Uh, it really showed, like youknow, a little bit of rebellion,
you know, and trying to, likeyou know, talk about america.
12 hours of pure chaos,absolutely, uh, earns a spot for
my two and three man, I'm not afan of that franchise listen,

(59:49):
you gotta admit it's interestingthe concept is very interesting
.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I think just the way they told it and handled it was
kind of poor.
You're trying to get it rightno, I went for purge.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
The first purge and then the last purge, forever so.
I'm back to back purge movies.
First purge and then the lastforever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
So I'm back to back purge movies.
Uh, you know what this is morefor the fans.
Uh, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
The twilight saga eclipse okay, okay, didn't know
you were gonna go.
There were you a twilight guy?

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
no, not at all.
I think I watched.
This is a safe space.
You can tell that you wereopening weekend, it's all right
I did the uh, the first twilightmovie on this podcast with
somebody and that was my firsttime watching it and, uh, that
movie just sucked.
Maybe if I watched it duringthe time we released it would
have been a little bit better.
But um, this is also a hot takeon the number, but I'm gonna go

(01:00:49):
.
Toy story 3 stole my pickthat's my.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
That's really no, it's not.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Absolute banger.
I think it's hot.
I don't care if it's hot.
Take, I think it's the best toystory movie by a country mile.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Yeah, 100 are you excited for Toy Story 5?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
No, but to be fair, I said the same thing about Toy
Story 4.
I actually liked that movie.
It was a good one, alright.
So Twilight and then Toy Story 3.
I'm going to go for the fans aswell, but also for myself,
because I saw this for the firsttime a little while ago.
Devil Wears Prada Must havebeen doing numbers.

(01:01:29):
That movie's an absolute banger.
Um, I don't really know what ithas to do with the fourth of
july.
It's not even like ablockbuster, but the uh, the way
that it stayed in, uh, our, ourcultural wavelength is is
testament enough to this movie,so it absolutely earns a spot
for me here okay okay, all right, and then I'm gonna go in the

(01:01:50):
exact opposite direction andthen, uh, uh, die hard two.
Not the best die hard movie, notreally great, but it just.
That is like getting back tothe, the old school.
You know what would have donewell over the, uh, over the
weekend.
So Shout out to the Die Hardfranchise.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
There you go.
Okay, I got Transformers.
Dark Side of the Moon.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I was wondering if you were going to put that on
there.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I'm not a big Zack Snyder.
What's his name?
Is that Colin?

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Michael Bay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
I'm a big Michael Bay hater, but those movies just
scream summer to me.
Blackbuster, michael Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I'm not.
I I'm a big Michael Bay hater,but um, those movies just scream
summer to me.
You know blackbuster yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Slow motion yeah, Confusing robot fights like that
that were shot poorly, and formy last one I'll go grownups.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Okay, okay, absolutely Safe.
One End on safe one and unsafeone, yeah yeah, and I mean, dude
, this is one uh gross, is onethat strange summer like that.
What they were doing was me andmy buddies at this, like at
swiss lake house this weekend.
So I absolutely can feel that.
And then I guess, for my lastone, I'll end us off with apollo

(01:03:05):
13.
You know something, somethingrespectable for the fourth of
july weekend.
Uh, you know, really emotional,really tight, makes you feel
all patriotic.
Um, sad story, but stillinspiring, which is, which is
what the fourth of july is allabout triumph, you know, yeah
yeah, I think last, uh, lastyear for the july weekend was um

(01:03:25):
the indiana jones movie.
That I, yeah, I saw that onthere.
I wouldn't have mentioned it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Yeah, I read it and I was like, oh cool, I was going
to put that up, but I saw it wasthat one.
I was like, nah, never mind,yeah, if it was any other one,
literally any other one, thatwould have been fine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
No, there's a few on there that I was like how dare
you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
yeah yeah um, well, brandon, we're here, like the
next episode of superman.
Like we made it.
Like I'm excited, like god weneed to get the taste of
jurassic world out of our mouth.
Uh, so superman's probablygonna come do that for us.
Um, and then from there it'slike right around the corner
fantastic four, my moreanticipated movie.
For that movie um, I knowyou're not into horror movies we

(01:04:07):
got to talk about if we'regoing to do I know what you did
last summer.
We'll see if you'll be down forit well, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I may uh, I may let you tell me about it.
You know that's cool, but umyeah, I mean, like you said, we
are absolutely here.
It's blockbusters and man we wehave.
We have been eating really well.
I think we are in a much betterspot than when we were last
year for movies.
So far, um, this summer atleast, like it's just been big
movie after big movie and fairlydoing well.

(01:04:36):
Even though this one didn't dowell, it still got people to go
to the theater, which is whatthis is all about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
So I'm incredibly excited for, uh, the next few
weeks yeah, we also got brandnew trailers that looked really
great in this movie.
Got a lot of new posters formovies coming out.
Um, let's keep this traditiongoing with recommending movies
at the end of the episode likewhat, what do you recommend
people to watch this weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
you know, if it's me, fourth of july just ended
everything.
Actually, I want people to goback and watch the first purge
again.
I think just to spite, just aspite here.
I think that's absolutely themovie of choice.
See, if it aged on you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
No, it does not.
I just seen it on the list.
I don't know why it was on thislist, because it didn't come
out before the July weekend.
But talk on Maverick.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I was going to say that one as well, yeah it was in
June.
It was in june.
It was, it was in june, butthen the first one was in may,
so it didn't make sense but Ithink like, uh, I think it
carried over into the fourth ofjuly weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
That's probably why I was on the list.
But yeah, hey, and it wasmaking a billion dollars doing
it so absolutely go watch thatone please multiple times.
Oh, you know what?
I'll take that back.
Go watch sinners and stream menow why not both?

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
yeah, make a whole like a whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Yeah, all right brandon uh, good episode.
Um, like I said, superman'snext week.
Stay tuned, next week we'll besaving you.
Bye.