Mickey 17 with Brandon Brogdon

Robert Pattinson showcases his remarkable acting range in two wildly different sci-fi films that explore identity, time, and what it means to be human.

• Mickey 17 tells the story of an "expendable" human clone who goes on dangerous missions knowing his memories will be transferred if he dies
• Bong Joon-ho's direction balances sci-fi concepts with emotional storytelling
• Robert Pattinson's character voice and mannerisms create a distinct, somewhat dorky protagonist
• The film explores ethical questions about cloning technology and treating copies as less than human
• Mark Ruffalo's character appears to satirize certain political figures
• Christopher Nolan's Tenant presents a complex narrative about time inversion that challenges viewers
• Tenant features impressive action sequences with objects and people moving both forward and backward in time
• Pattinson delivers a charismatic performance alongside John David Washington
• Both films demonstrate Pattinson's versatility and commitment to challenging roles
• The conversation includes discussion of upcoming films and excitement for future releases

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
excuse me, is anybody sitting here?
Sorry, this he's taken.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sorry you want to hear the coolest thing I heard
about robert pettinson right nowwhat he?
You know he was roommates withandrew garfield and charlie cox
all the same time.
They were roommates togetherand Charlie Cox all at the same
time.
They were roommates togetherand now they're all playing
superheroes.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Who's Charlie Cox?
He's Daredevil.
Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Where were they?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
roommates at with each other.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
In London.
That's where they're all from.
I think that was actually.
I heard him talk about aninterview actually, and it
wasn't just them three, it waslike a rotating thing.
Guys were coming in and out,swapping roommates and stuff
like that.
It sounded pretty cool.
It's kind of cool that allthree of those guys roomed
together.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Why are the English so good at acting?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
And not only are they good at acting, they're good at
acting at American roles too.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Every good actor you can think of is probably English
except for my boy.
Timothée, timothée, chalamet,chalamet.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Chalamet.
Welcome back to this.
He's Taken where I'm your host,rob Miranda.
Brandon Brogdon, whose voiceyou hear every single week on
the podcast, who does the introfor me, is back in return of the
podcast to help me out reviewthe new Mickey 17 the biggest
Robert Pattinson fan I know, um,very throwback episode.

(01:31):
We've also picked anotherrobert pattinson movie and also
a christopher nolan movie tenant.
I'm excited to talk about thatbecause this is my first time
watching it.
I kind of surprised myself,like on what I'm gonna have to
say about it, because I did notlike this movie.
I mean, I guess that is apopular opinion about that movie
, but I don't know.
We'll get into it a little bitlater.
Let's talk about movies,brandon, a little bit.

(01:53):
It's been a long time sinceI've been on the podcast and
every once in a long whileyou'll hit me up about a movie
like oh, I've seen this movieand it was pretty dope or this
movie kind of of sucked.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Have you been going to the movies a lot lately?
Uh, I feel like I've seen a lotof movies lately, you know all
the big ones that are coming out.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
One that I've really enjoyed lately is one of them
days.
It's my, my favorite newrelease.
It's an it's a good comfortmovie.
I would say that because I'veseen that twice in theaters too
twice, I went, I'm discoveringimagine theaters.
I've been there a handful oftimes, but I I also discovered
the Cuddle Seats.
I think I talked about thispodcast before we the reason
this movie was delayed.
I mean, this episode wasdelayed.
We both got sick.
I was supposed to come downthere and visit you at Indy and

(02:35):
we were gonna go check out thistheater that you recommended.
To me it was like a dine-intheater.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Tell me about that theater, the can can theater, I
think it's called, starts with ak, so I don't know how to
pronounce it con con or can canoh, we are in indiana, so it
could be just kkk on con.
Oh whoa uh no, but there's likea japanese tavern inside of it,
there's like a bars and stuffand great popcorn.
Yeah, I went there and saw uhmickey 17 there last night.

(03:00):
I was gonna say we got anothercool theater in town, living
room theater where you have likethe recliners and stuff.
They serve you like food, theycome and give you your food and
stuff I've been to that one withyou.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think we went to go see blackish there.
Yeah, that movie was hilarious.
I haven't seen it since,actually, but it was a hilarious
movie.
Um, I'm just loving movietheater experiences.
My bucket list of this year isto go to at least three cool new
theaters this summer, so I'mexcited to do that.
Nice Streaming at home there'sbeen a lot of streaming movies

(03:32):
out lately.
Actually, have you been doing alot of streaming at home?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, I've been streaming movies about family
lately.
If you know what those are theFast and Furious saga.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I was like what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I'm a blended no uh, I recently rewatched no fraud
too.
That was also really good.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I've seen that twice in theaters as well.
That was a good movie.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's a great movie.
I'm trying to think of whatelse.
Oh, another movie I recentlywatched randomly that I really
enjoyed was deep water horizon.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Is that with Paul Walker?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
No, that's with Mark Wahlberg.
I don't know if I've seen thatone.
Kurt Russell's in it.
It's about that one actorthat's in a what's that?
Nicolas Cage movie where theygo to prison and stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Oh, Face Off John Travolta.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, not that one.
A they're on the plane.
Uh, what's that movie called?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
it's like a prison plane.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
They're like transferring people.
Whatever, there's some guy outof that movie, he's in there.
It's really good.
It's about the bp oil spill inuh 2010.
Okay, okay, so it's a newer one.
Yeah, in Orleans.
Yeah, it's like in 2016.
I really enjoyed it.
I'm shocked at how good it was.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Interesting, interesting.
Well, award season was kind ofcoming to an end a little bit.
Oscars was just last week.
I haven't really had a chanceto talk about it on the podcast
yet.
You mentioned you didn't watchit, but I stood up and watched
the whole thing and it wentpretty much exactly how you
thought it was going to be.
Like Enora swept the wholething Random.
Like Enora Conclave were thetwo biggest winners throughout

(05:11):
the whole night.
I felt like and nothing reallyspectacular happened during the
show.
It was kind of a boring showactually.
My boy.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Huh, I was going to say my boy, timmy, got stiffed.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Timothy Chamelet.
He did get stiffed a little bitbut he did clean out in SAG
Awards, like a couple weeksbefore Conan O'Brien hosted this
year's Oscars.
And I love Conan O'Brien, Ithink he's great, I think he's
hilarious.
Maybe like two good bits in thewhole thing he even like made I
don't know if you've seen thismovie he made like a weird

(05:41):
Kendrick Lamar calling Jake apedophile joke.
I did see that.
He didn't see that and I wasjust like he didn't even say it.
Funny, it was more of astatement than a joke, really
yeah, it feels pretty forced atthis point yeah, um, have you
seen an aura?
I have not seen that movie, yetI it's on my list.
I haven't seen it either and Iwas like how good can this movie

(06:03):
really be if no one everyoneasked, no one has seen it.
So I mean, it's like it seemslike it always happens.
Adrian Brody was a good one, Imean a big winner, for this
night.
He got the best actor.
Other than that, the wholething.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah, he shouldn't have won that though.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Was Timothee Chalame up for that one too?
Yes, he was.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I don't think that his movie on a complete unknown
won anything but the fact thatadrian brody used a high to
enhance his uh accent in the inthe brutalities, I think.
Because then you hear of guyslike sebastian sand preparing
for his role, the apprentice,where he has to watch countless
hours of videos of this guytalking and get to his

(06:45):
mannerisms and stuff.
And then, uh, timothy chalamettried to learn to sing for five
years to prepare for this roleand then he's using ai to
enhance his accent.
I'm not saying they actedbetter than him or anything.
I'm just saying they put in theword he, he used peds, you know
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
And on top of that, people kind of pissed at him
because, uh, how long his speechwas.
I mean, I watched his, Iwatched him give that speech and
he did cut off the music.
He's like, hey, turn that shitoff.
Um, but at the end of the day,like isn't that why you're
watching the oscars anyway?
To watch these people havetheir moment in the spotlight,
and it's a proud moment.
It's like who gives a fuck?

(07:23):
If you're seeing the next 30seconds or so, like what the
fuck am I not gonna watch?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I kind of doubt it yeah, but there's like there's
only so much, there's only somany thank yous.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You can really say, you know, without dragging it
out yeah, because some peopledid turn into like a political
statement or something like thator some statement I did like,
uh, the memes of cillian murbehind him, patiently waiting
for him to be over.
Did you see actually TimothyShamley's from the SAG award His
speech?
It was a good speech I thoughthe gave.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I didn't see the whole thing, but I did see the
big part where he's like I'mtrying to be the best there is.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And he's like fuck y'all, I'm going to be the best
of the best.
He's like he was basically justmanifesting it honestly, which
I respect.
A lot of people don't like thatguy, I don't know.
Also, people were judging himfor making out with Kylie Jenner
in the front row.
I was like who gives?

Speaker 1 (08:14):
a shit.
That's what she's known for.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
That's what comes with the territory.
But I want to talk about Mickey17 a little little bit now.
I have been looking forward tothis movie since like early last
year, because this moviedefinitely got affected from the
actor's strike.
It got pushed back, pushed back, pushed back and um, I think
this movie was supposed to comeout in january as well, and then
it got pushed back to march,which tells me a couple things

(08:42):
um january.
Movies are like where studiosjust dump their movies out, the
movies that they don't reallycare about.
Case in point, the new CaptainAmerica movie.
It came out in February.
Still, january and February isthe same thing.
Those movies suck Anyway.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
There's a few good movies last month.
I'm going to argue that plan.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, you're great.
Yeah, yeah, I get you.
I'll give you that.
Like companion was really goodtoo, um, but the fact that this
was the studio pushed it back alittle bit into March and April.
Time tells me that theybelieved in this movie and it's
going to do really great and Ithink it deserved the spot.
Like I, I really did enjoy thismovie.
I'm so excited to talk about it.

(09:26):
Robert pattinson did great.
I want to talk about thedirector, excuse me, and um, you
brought up a good point when wewere talking about it and you
said you think the movie, thedirector or the creators, the
studio, was really banking ontrump losing this election for
some of these jokes to hit.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, yeah, the way you kept talking about it
getting pushed back makes moresense now watching the movie.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's exactly what my first thought was when you
said that Maybe they're pushingit back to distance the time a
little bit, you know, becauseJanuary is obviously when he's
stepping into presidency, and sothey're like, eh, the jokes
aren't going to hit the same.
For those who don't know aboutthis movie, mickey 17, known as
an expendable, goes on adangerous journey to colonize an
ice planet.

(10:10):
Directed by Bong Joon-ho, alsowritten by Bong Joon-ho, and
based on a novel, mickey 7, byEdward Ashton.
This movie is also starringpeople like Robert Pattinson,
steven Yeun I'm trying to thinkof who else in this movie's
other big names, in this, markRuffalo, obviously, before I ask

(10:32):
you to come on this podcast,naomi Akey.
Naomi Akey, thank you, Icouldn't find her on the IMBD.
But before I ask you to come onthis podcast, where are you
going to go see this movie?

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Where am I going to go see this movie?
Where am I gonna?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
see this movie.
Where are you going to see thismovie?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
uh, I went to see this movie.
I can't no, no where are yougonna?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
where are you guys gonna watch this if I didn't ask
you to come on the podcast?
Uh, where, not where?
Where were you?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
oh, I'm sorry'm sorry , that was on me.
Yeah, I was going to watch thismovie regardless of the podcast
because I was also excitedabout this movie.
I'm a big Robert Pattinson fan.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I'm a firm believer that he is of the top actors of
our generation.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
He was passed over.
He was passed over for the roleof Paul.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Atreides, but he would have murdered that role.
Oh really, he passed over a lotof roles.
Actually, I think he's gonna beon a train like on these big
roles, coming back to back toback pretty soon.
He was in a christopher nolanmovie.
For god's sake, he is ourbatman, he's my batman.
I like him as batman, but thething that sucks about the
batman movie is not gonna bemade.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's like 2030 now, probably yeah, I saw something
where he was complaining aboutthat, but I don't know how real
that was I don't.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I wouldn't say he was complaining about it.
He kind of joked about his.
Yeah, by the time he's gonnagive me me, it's gonna be an old
man, batman yeah and uh.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, I guess we're not there yet, but I have
another comment about hisbatman-ness.
But I also really enjoyed hisbatman movie and the spin-off
series that came from it theyeah, yeah, there's a lot of
things going on with dc.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't know like it's almost over stimulating
with all the news going on withdc right now, like with all the
movies have been announced andstuff like that, um, but we're
not here to talk about that.
Mickey 17 I seen this onSaturday it was a Saturday
showing around 1 o'clock in theafternoon.
There was literally only threeor four other people in my

(12:30):
theater.
How was your theater reaction?
Was it packed?

Speaker 1 (12:33):
My theater was pretty light too.
My theater was pretty light.
I was actually reading thismovie.
Didn't do too great money-wiseover the weekend.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I mean it looked like it had a big budget just
because of the stars and the CGIalone.
But I don't think it was a hugebudget movie, Robert Mark
Ruffalo.
Nah, you're going to have a bigbudget in this movie.
I mean, what do you consider abig budget?
Um, over a hundred?
I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't think it was over 100.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
I would put you close to it, but I wouldn't say it
was over 100 yeah, it kind ofsucks this movie didn't do,
because, like, I've been tellingeverybody about it that I'm
going to watch it.
Okay, we're going to go throughit a little bit and I'm going
to tell you what I love about it, because I know we're not on
the same page when it comes tothis movie.
Um, let's first of all talkabout robert pattinson's
character a little bit mickey 17.
Um, the first thing that stoodout to me in the trailers I'm

(13:29):
sure stopped everybody was thevoice.
It was kind of an interestingchoice to change up his voice or
make it distinguishable to thischaracter.
And after, like watching themovie, I was like it was a
pretty good choice, like it fitthe character very well, felt
like, you know, kind of lookvery americanized, kind of dorky
um, I don't even know if I callit americanized, but it was
kind of a dorky, high-pitchedvoice.

(13:49):
Um, nothing like the batman atall.
So I was just curious to seehow he went there.
And on top of that, uh, bon bon,john ho, who directed a lot of
famous movies, a lot of bigmovies, um, let me see the last
one.
He, the big one, he bit.
He directed the uh, parasite isprobably what he's best known

(14:09):
at.
Besides this movie, he doesn'tspeak english.
I don't know if you knew thatso I was like curious to see how
he's actually directing thesethese actors.
But on top of that he's alsodealing with pros, so I was like
I'm sure there's translators,oh yeah, on the site and stuff
yeah, there a thousand percentis because it's even translators

(14:31):
for him and his interviews, um.
But I mean, yeah, trailers,translators can help.
But, like I don't know, as adirector you got to build a
connection and bond with theseactors too, to give you again
the same page, I felt like.
So I was wondering if that wasgoing to be a big obstacle for
this.
I don't think so, uh, but howdo you feel about his voice in
this movie?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I thought the mickey 17 voice was cool.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Um, I guess it was americanized it was cool, but it
was also like dorky and um, hehad like his mannerism.
He was like it was almost likea Peter Parker kind of vibe,
almost Peter Parker before thespider bite, exactly.
I keep hating myself for goingback to these superhero
references.

(15:14):
You're good with the camera.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm trying to get my phone charger to work.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
But not only, like I said, his voice, his mannerism.
He's kind of a dorky guy.
He's kind of a shy guy.
He's mostly keeping his nose tothe ground.
He doesn't really want anything.
But then he meets somebody whoplayed by no naomi let me see
what her character's name iscalled uh nasha who kind of I
wouldn't say brings him out ofhis shell.
He just gives him moreself-esteem within himself.
Like he becomes reliant on thischick to like help him get

(15:51):
through his job which we'll talkabout his job in a minute.
So her character seems supervital to him.
She seemed like a greatcharacter.
I love the way she portrayedthis movie.
In this movie she's a strong,confident woman who's tough as
tough as shit, beating up peoplefor messing with them a little
bit, and she just had his backand I really like that in her
character.
Until like midway through themovie when we find out like oh

(16:13):
shit, she likes some certainstuff which we'll talk about.
And then I was like I don'tknow if I can trust you not,
because I found out you've beenyou like that fucking shit.
I don't even know what kind ofchemical it was it's not like it
was like oxycontin, almostthat's what it seemed like to me
, like it's like unpurifiedoxycontin, is that?

(16:35):
and then stephen young'scharacter.
Stephen young who plays likethis guy who helps him not helps
him, but like pushes him intothis program, to going into
space.
I should say I was talking tosomebody about this movie
afterwards and I was like I lovesteven young, but take him out
of this movie, take hischaracter out of this movie.

(16:56):
I don't think anything too muchchanges too much.
Yeah, and same thing goes withthat, um, that one chick who has
a crush on Mickey.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
The other security lady.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, take her character out too, nothing
changes.
So it's kind of weird to throwthose characters in this movie,
especially that girl.
She had a crush on Mickey andshe wanted him, and then you,
naomi, was like and she was likesaw that for two seconds and
she was like nah, you can't havehim.
And then you randomly see herwith a girl, like a girlfriend.
At the very end I was like whatthe fuck was the point of all

(17:33):
this?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
um, yeah, I was gonna say, nothing happened in that
movie no, I would not.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I wouldn't say nothing happened in this movie.
Mark ruffalo's I'll talk abouthim a little bit.
He was definitely like tryingto do method acting I felt like
with an underbite and everythinglike that.
He was definitely trying toforeshadow like a Neanderthal
presidential.
Yeah, let's just say he's justtrying to imitate Trump.

(18:02):
It seemed like almost a littlebit with his beliefs.
His action, his movements islike his anger, how he's always
has his wife in his ear tellinghim what to do, basically him
hiding behind religion.
In this movie, um, him trying tolike I mean, there are
resemblance to our currentpresident now like where he

(18:24):
creates a problem and he triesto look like hero solving that
problem too, even though you'rethe one who caused it.
It's like you said they werebanking on Trump to lose in this
election.
Now that they're here, it'slike, oh shit, now we got to
like be careful.
I don't know if they changedanything for this movie because
of that or not, but I think thetone changed a little bit.

(18:45):
All right, I'm super curious tosee why you didn't like this
movie.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Well, like I was just saying, it felt like nothing
happened.
I mean, they start off thisfilm that Steven Yeun's
character and Robert Pattinson,they get in trouble with the
mafia, they have to leave Earthfor their safety or whatever.
They never really explain whythey should have left earth and
goes to this other planet andthen, four and a half years
later, when they actually get tothis other planet, nothing

(19:13):
happens on this other planetwell mark ruffalo's character.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
He plays like this guy who who ran for was a
senator or governor or somethinglike that, several times he ran
for two presidential electionsand lost two presidential
elections so I feel like in hismind he's like I gotta do
something to seem like basicallystay relevant to the people, to
show people I am important.
So pick up.
He puts together this wholeprogram where he's gonna go.

(19:38):
He's like, fuck it, if I can'tbe president here on fucking
earth, I'm gonna be president ofthis ice island, ice ice planet
and um.
So he put together this wholelike spacex kind of thing, um,
and he I don't know how he'sgetting funded, really, if he's
funding it himself or what'sgoing on with it um he's like
crystal coin he's like fuck it,I'll take you guys and I'll be

(20:00):
president over there and no onecan tell me no, because I
wouldn't be one in charge.
So I think that's the wholereason that the whole Iceland
thing got started.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, it seemed like they left more because of the
cloning thing, because cloninggot outlawed on Earth.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't know if they left because of cloning.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I wouldn't say that.
Who knows why they left, theydidn't talk about it.
And I thought, and then left,they didn't talk about it, and I
almost I thought, and thenthere was all about this, all
about this sauce.
They kept talking about sauce,that was very weird.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
That was very.
They didn't really explain onit, and this movie is based on a
novel and because of that I dowant to go back and read that a
little bit just to see if theydo expand on that a little bit
more, especially towards the endwhen they wanted to make more
sauce or that dinner scene.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
It was definitely weird, where she just kind of
chops off the tail and blends itup and then drinks it.
And how insignificant themultiples are.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
You haven't even mentioned Mickey 18 yet yeah, I
didn't even mention how thismovie.
I like how they did this a lot.
They do this in several movieswhere they start off a point in
the movie where he's on theground, all hurt and stuff like
that.
They play a little bit of thatscene but then they go back and

(21:13):
like, okay, it's almost like allright, you want to know how I
got to this point in my life.
And it does a backstory andthen you catch up to that point
where it is that and then you goon forward, going on the story
from his point of view.
I like how movies do that a lotactually I hope you say it was
cool um, so anyways, okay, let'skeep going.

(21:34):
Like how, from there, like heruns away from the mafia, he
joins, like um, this programknown as the expendables.
He doesn't really read thedescription of what it entails.
Everyone kind of warns him likeyou sure you want to do this?
And he's like, yeah, fuck it,what an expendable is?
It's a dangerous job becauseyou're going to a totally
different planet.
You're signing up to basicallybe the touch subject of all

(21:57):
these experiments to see if youcan survive on this planet or if
you can live without your suitin space or something like that.
You know all these dangerousmissions he signed up for and if
he dies it's okay, because it'sjust going to reprint his body.
The exact same way, it's goingto have all his memories and all
of his data in his memories andso he's almost like immune to

(22:19):
anything.
Even though he's technicallydying, he's, he's still going
gonna be okay.
And man, did they treat himlike shit?
Like they did not teach thisguy like human anymore as soon
as he signed up?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
program they were.
They were, uh, using him tocure diseases.
They were testing like vaccineson him and stuff which is like
I guess that's kind of a coolconcept to use.
Like that's kind of likeethically wrong too.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, I don't know, and they did address that, and
they say that's why it wasoutlawed on earth.
So he's like fuck it, I'm justgonna.
And then, um, mark rufflescharacter is like we'll only use
it in space and only for thebenefit of mankind, though.
So I mean, I guess you have tovolunteer too.
They can't just make anybody dothis, and the reason it was I.
I don't know why they show thistoo.
I thought it was a waste ofshowing this, but like the

(23:09):
reason why it was banned onearth is because the guy who
created it was like a psychopath.
He created multiples of himselfwho was going around killing
people, and then it all becameconfusing of like how do we
charge this guy?
Do we charge this clone?
Do Do we charge him?
What do we do?
And then he's like fuck it, nomore cloning.
And that's when Mark Ruffalocame to the table.
I was like I got an idea.

(23:30):
Let's just do it in space.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
And then go ahead.
Now you go.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Then it became like an expendable, not expendables
multiples, that's what they callthemselves.
Like multiples, the namecreating in this movie is kind
of ridiculous Dumb Multiples.
And then there was, like theCreepers, like who's coming up
with these stupid-ass names?
So Robert Penn, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I was going to say Mickey 18 was basically just
Batman.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Isn't that kind of weird how such different
personalities they were too?
Yeah, I was like I thought thiswas going to be the exact same
person.
Well, they explained that everymickey was kind of different
yeah, they mentioned that alittle bit, but I'm like how,
how is that possible?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
but I don't know I mean, every, every twin has a
little different quirk, don'tthey?
I think?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I guess I read a review in this movie saying this
person wished it was a littlebit more sci-fi.
Do?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
you agree with that or no?
I mean, yeah, I wish there wasa little bit more anything.
I wish something happened.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I remember thinking I can't wait for this movie to be
over.
Jeez, louise guy, I disagreewith that sci-fi statement.
I thought this was a perfectbalance between sci-fi and just
storytelling in general, becauseI feel like a lot of times with
sci-fi movies it's easy to I'mtrying to make it make sense of

(25:02):
it, I'm trying to make it makesense of it.
It's easy to hide and Hide andit's just driving me nuts.
It's easy to no, no, no, Ididn't seek.
It's easy to like, uh, blend,bend reality and make up your

(25:24):
own rules and just like hideplot points within sci-fi movies
.
If something doesn't make sense, it's like oh, it's okay, it's
because the oxygen is like thisblah blah and that's why.
So I mean, you're focused onlike trying to get in this, this
sci-fi reality like, say, starwars or dune, for example.
Um, you're just makingobstacles to distract from

(25:45):
actual storytelling, where thismovie I felt like had a good
depth and characters, uh, very,I think, relatable storylines,
like with self-insecurity andstuff like that, running away
from your problems, like becausethis guy had no family or
friends.
So he's like fuck it, I gotnothing to lose and that's how
people join the army.
And to me, the best part ofthis movie.
The reason I walked out of thismovie feeling so energized and

(26:07):
so thinking about this movie, Ifelt like it had.
The very last line of this movieI felt like was a mic drop,
almost what was it.
And I felt like was like a micdrop, almost what was it.
And I'm going to beparaphrasing this, cause I don't
know the exact line, but he's,he's like, uh, feeling good
about himself, like he, he's,he's living, he has like a
purpose to live again.
Cause before he never he feltlike he didn't have a purpose.

(26:30):
Cause like he's just gonna,he's like I felt bad, I felt
guilty for all the other mickeysI couldn't save, but I need to
let life, you know, go and behappy for a once or something
like that, let myself be happy,which is something I struggle
with too, like trying to letmyself be happy.
And that line stuck, that wholelike last couple lines stuck

(26:53):
with me throughout the rest ofthe day.
Um, even though that reallywasn't the general theme of the
movie or him trying to feelhappy for himself, really, I
guess it kind of was.
I thought that was a great wayto end the movie and it was kind
of predictable way to end themovie, obviously like how Mickey
18 was going to sacrificehimself and everything.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Spoiler alert wow, big spoiler alert it's not, it's
not the.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
It's not what's gonna happen, it's how it's gonna
happen.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I felt like they also came across those squirrel-like
things, the creepers orwhatever on the planet, and
those are just a big nothing aswell.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Especially because they weren't like attacking them
or anything like that.
Yeah, and the wholeconversation part between him
and Mickey17 as well, especiallybecause they weren't like
attacking them or anything likethat.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, and the whole, the whole uh conversation part
between him and mickey 17 or theleader of the creepers or
whatever, I don't know that thatI'll give you.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
That I'll definitely give you that like, like how
they just randomly came up witha translator within like a span
of was like two hours and thennothing happened it was a whole
big battle it just felt veryanti-climactic, like I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
They're like give me back my baby and you killed my
other baby, so one of you mustdie.
And it was like like an eye foran eye.
I guess so, but like I guessthat did happen, but I don't
know the way it happened wasjust I don't know the way it
happened wasn't what I was.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I had higher expectations for this movie, I
guess like did you want themonsters to eat one of the
characters?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
not necessarily that didn't have to happen, but I
guess I wanted them to have amore essential part in the movie
than they did.
You kind of just saw them andthen they kind of came back and
that was kind of that.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Like I said, they went to this planet and then
they did nothing on it yeah, andI also wasn't expecting it,
because at the end of the movieoh, it's spring, now
everything's melting.
You couldn't tell me this wholeplanet is not just made out of
ice?
I thought the whole planet wasjust ice.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's what people think of Antarctica too.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Oh, I definitely thought that let's talk about
Steven Yeun's character arc alittle bit too, because he's on
the run as well with Mickey andhe kind of tries to betray him.
He's like a little asshole inthis movie, especially that
scene like where he like mickeyfalls and he's like, hey, I'm

(29:24):
just gonna leave you, is thatcool?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
he's like yeah, let's just print you out again
tomorrow anyway yeah, what afucking dick yeah, well, you
come to find out.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
The only reason why they haven't run away was
because of him yeah, yeah, um,how about that scene like where,
like the reason they're runningaway because there's big
mobsters after them, and hetells steven's character?
It's like, hey, if you show meyou chopping up robert's
character or mickey into likebits and pieces, I'll let you

(29:57):
live.
And I was like that sounds likeif this was like maybe two
weeks beforehand, that wouldhave been an easy job.
You know, like, yeah, I wouldlet you to kill me, like if I
was Mickey, it's just to getthis guy off our backs.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
No, the principle of the thing.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, yeah, his character was a bastard, but he
ended up getting away witheverything too.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, but pretty much did nothing now, and it was
kind of unclear too how he gotthe better job as a pilot.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, he just became a pilot, while Mickey had to
become an expend.
Know, yeah, he just became apilot, while mickey had to
become an expendable.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
He just became a pilot.
All right, I'm not gonna saythis movie is gonna be like
winning a bunch of ton of awards.
I thought this movie was fun.
At least you didn't have funwatching this movie no not even
the scene where the hisgirlfriend was like excited to
get pegged by two guys the sameguy that was fair and she was.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
She was very excited.
He was annoyed and she was like, oh, think about how excited
you'd be if there was two of me.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
It was like and as she said that I was like, she's
got a good point, I mean, andthen now how the mickey 18 will
start feeling on mickey 17 too Imean yeah, you wouldn't do that
no, I definitely wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
You wouldn't touch yourself you mean about that
twin cest?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
no, I had a blast watching this movie.
I kind of want to go back andre-watch this movie alone not
alone, but just again for theenjoyment of it.
I thought this movie wasrefreshingly original from
studios making like a thousandFast and Furious movies.
I don't think I've seenanything like it, if anything.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I guess this was original.
It was very sad.
I would say, this movie is moresatire than anything.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
I thought this movie was going to be more of a comedy
than what it was Really.
I thought it was so much morethan just a comedy.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
That's what satire is Kind of funny, but with
political undertones.
Yeah, thanks for teaching me,damn it, I lost my train of
thought.
But yeah, I damn it, we werejust I lost my train of thought.
But yeah, this movie probablymight win some awards just
because of who's in it and whodirected it and just what comes

(32:27):
with that kind of stuff.
But I don't think it should.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
I mean, I'll give you this come July.
I think everyone's gonna forgetabout this movie.
I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'll give you that I already forgot about it, you
wouldn't watch this movie againI forgot on the bottom of the
drive home.
Probably not.
I'll probably watch it when ithits streaming services in two
weeks because it's not gonnahave a long theater and then I
probably will never watch itagain.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh man, I like this movie a lot.
I would watch it again.
What would you give this moviea 1 out of 10?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
1 out of 10?
I'm giving this movie a 2.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Shut up that fucking low, that low.
That is a 1.
If it's out of 10, I'll give ita 4.
That's still pretty low.
I would give this movie a good7.5 out of 10.
You know what I think wouldhave helped a little bit?
What If it had a really coolsoundtrack?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yeah, very forgettable music.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yeah, because I don't remember a single song in this
whole movie.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You said there were so many levels to this movie
that you liked.
I like it a lot, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I mean the shots are awesome too, Like him out inside
of the space station working onthe ship itself.
I thought those were reallygood shots.
The CGI I thought was prettygood with the aliens.
There's the CGI between RobertPattinson it looks cool, yeah.
The cgi I thought was prettygood with the aliens and, um,
there's a cgi between, uh,robert patson working with
himself.
I thought that was really cooltoo I thought it was flawless

(34:08):
flawless, nice, flawless, goodword there.
Yeah, it definitely looked cool,it was just boring it didn't
have to be two and a half hours.
So do you think, if anything,it has a chance to win best
visuals, the trip there couldhave definitely been shortened.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
If that movie was an hour and a half, it probably
would have been a lot better.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Let me look up, because I cannot stand, the
actress who plays Mark Ruffalo'swife.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, I was trying to think of what else I've seen
her in.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I've seen her in a handful of things I know I have.
I just can't think of it though.
But I couldn't understand hercharacter too.
Like one, she's obsessed withthose sauces, like you said.
On top of that, we didn't eventalk about Mark Ruffalo's talk
show too.
That was randomly on the shiptoo.
I thought that was kind ofstupid to have it in this movie.
Toni Collette have in thismovie, uh, tony collette, who

(35:05):
plays yella yelfa y l f a.
She was, in the sixth sense,juror number two.
That's probably what I justseen her most recently.
She was actually pretty good inthat.
Have you seen that movie?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
jury number two, nothing on my nicholas halt yeah
yes, I have that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
She's a a detective, I guess, who was like another
detective lawyer who catches himat the end.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, that movie has a big surprise in it.
Is that an M Night Shyamalanmovie?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Journal number two.
No, that's who directed theMule, clint Eastwood.
Clint Eastwood movie.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
He's a good director.
He's pretty good.
He's pretty good Are you bigHarrison Ford.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Huh, I was about to say Grant Turner makes me cry.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Okay, have you seen Harrison?
Are you a big Harrison Ford fan?
Yeah, have you seen theHarrison Ford fan?
Yeah, have you seen the sadnews about him?
He was supposed to be apresenter at the Oscars, but the
day of, or the day before, hegot diagnosed with sickles.
I saw oh that sucks.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, is that yeah?
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
I was gonna ask what that is,but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I don't know the signals either um mickey 17.
I recommend going watching it,but don't ask brandon because
he'll say no I recommend seeingit.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
I would tell people at work to see it.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Still, I was like you know, I was bored, but you know
you might feel differentlyabout it you were literally the
only person I've known who'sseen, who's seen this movie and
just did not give a fuck aboutit.
And it's not because of RobertPanson.
Robert Panson's great in it.
I felt like I see, I can seesome of your points.

(36:59):
Not a lot did happen, but Ifelt like there was a lot of
emotions in it that you probablyjust didn't catch up on.
But, like I said, robertPanson's a great actor and we're
going to talk about hisperformance a little bit in this
next movie too.
We're going to be talking aboutTenet.
It came out in 2020.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
This is like one of the first movies that came out
in theaters.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah, it's a COVID film.
It's a COVID movie, christopherNolan movie.
This is a big budget movie.
This movie is about armed withonly the word tenant and
fighting for the survival of theentire world CIA operative.
The protagonist journeysthrough a twilight world of
international espionages and aglobal mission that unfolds

(37:43):
beyond.
This movie was confusing ashell.
This movie was, uh, written,written and directed by chris
finnell.
Let's just say that, too.
There were a couple people whoI I what.
I watched this movie.
I was like, oh shit, this guy'sin this movie too.
That's pretty cool, yeah, butsome of the people I was excited
to see that I didn't know inthis movie was.

(38:04):
One of them was himish patel,who plays me, matt meyer, the
guy who crashes the plane intothe building.
I love that guy as an actor.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
He's a guy who stars in yesterday uh, yeah, he's
gonna be in be in the newChristopher Nolan movie as well.
He's going to be the only guyin the Odyssey that remembers
the Beatles, aaron TaylorJohnson was in this movie.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
I wasn't expecting to see him in this movie.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
And obviously.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I love John David Washington, who's famously for
his father, denzel.
Denzel Washington, thank youSorry, I was blanking on it.
Denzel Washington, have youseen him in the Black Klansman?
I have not seen that.
Oh my gosh, it's a true storyWith him and starring him in.
I'm so blanking on names.
The guy who was in the StarWars villain in the newer ones.

(39:01):
Adam Driver him in Adam Driverand also Topher Grace in that
movie who plays the leader ofthe Klansmen.
He goes undercover to be.
It's set in the 70s.
Let's say he gets up on thephone with the KKK and he ends
up like kind of joining throughthe phone but he's black, so he
can't show up.
In the 70s, let's say he getsup on the phone with the KKK and
he ends up joining through thephone but he's black, so he

(39:21):
can't show up in person.
So Adam Draver, who's anothercop, fills in for him.
So one's there in person.
It's a good-ass fucking movie.
I don't want to give away toomuch.
I say it's on Tubi.
I want to watch it, you should.
Robert Pattinson in this movie.
Elizabeth DeBecke who plays Cat.
I had my phone out the entiretime watching this movie.

(39:45):
I'm going to take notes on whatI like and what I don't like.
I have one thing on my phoneand it was like oh, it starts
off with immediate action.
I was confused as fuck for mostof this whole movie.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Because you were so drawn into the action you
couldn't take notes.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
No, I couldn't take notes because, like one, I could
barely understand what the fuckthey were saying well, yeah,
because they're speaking in, uh,palindrones and uh what's the
other one?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
what's like a word spelled backwards and means
something else no, it wasn'tthat.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
It was just like him talking Through the mass.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
I could I try to turn on subtitles, it's still could
barely understand them death tosubtitles, but but, yeah, but
once you just figure out thathe's actually the fact.
First off, never even know thisdude's name.
His name is.
He doesn't have a name in themovie.
He's called the protagonistjust because that's what he is.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, and you know what, Watching the movie, I
guess I didn't put it like neverthought about that.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Even in the credits it just says protagonist he
doesn't have a name.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
He does call himself protagonist, though, in the
movie.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Does he?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, when he's talking to that, um, that that
boss lady, um he's telling herabout he's, she's basically
telling him like yeah, you'rejust a pawn in my plan, and he's
like so on the protagonist, andthat's how I described himself
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Um, but yeah, but once you figure out that he's
actually, he actually was theone that recruited himself in
the beginning of the movie totry to kill himself, to recruit
himself and to tenant, to thenrecruit robert pattinson, to
then save him later in the movie, just to find out that he's
actually the creator tenant.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
You understand the whole thing it's yeah, once you
figure that part out.
This guy must have been smokingwhen he was fucking making this
movie or writing this moviechristopher nolan has an
obsession with time.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
His obsession with time is weird, but it has
generated classic films now,wasn't?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
he like, uh, didn't he do that?
Really not a caprio movie whereinception, inception
interstellar man.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Christopher nolan is the best director of our time.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
I would back you up on that.
I would 100% agree with you hisfilmography is crazy.
The Dark Knight trilogy, thismovie how many times have you
seen this movie?
Three times yeah, I definitelysay you need to watch it more
than once to fully appreciate it.
I've seen it just once, but mything is is like it didn't

(42:21):
capture my interest enough to goback and re-watch it, though
you know that's very interestingthat this movie didn't capture
your interest, but the lastmovie did like things happen in
this movie.
Like robert madden's is a badassin this movie he is and what a
totally different character heplays in this one, isn't it?
Yeah, that really justshowcases his acting.

(42:42):
On top of that, this guy wasEdward in fucking Twilight.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Edward in Twilight, cedric Diggory in Harry Potter.
He was the first death ofBaltimore, damn what's her more
that death or the Twilight?
He didn didn't die in twilight,no no, he did not die in
twilight, but definitely thecedric diggory death, the my boy
.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
That hurts, that hits are you excited about the new
harry potter series?
No, no, me neither.
Um, let's go back into thismovie.
It's like I I want to gothrough the movie, but I can't
even know where to begin.
Who I didn't like in this moviewas Kat Elizabeth DeBuckie.
I cannot stand her character inthis movie.

(43:28):
I felt she played this role sofucking boring.
So boring.
Like she didn't, I was likeyour life is at stake here,
bitch.
Give me something to feel on.
You know, how do you feel aboutthat?
Or do you think she did prettygood?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
no, I think her character kind of sucked.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
I thought that was kind of the point of her
character, though yeah, causeshe was like the whole world's
gonna die, including my boy.
I was like bitch, the world'sgonna end.
No one, including your boy'sgonna be.
Yeah, obviously your boy's notgonna be saved.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, it's kind of funny that this whole thing took
place around uh, a terroristattack in kviv too, and then
like two years later like actualwar ukraine's happening.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
yeah, we stay off of politics in this pocket, you
know.
One thing I didn't notice,though, was like anytime the
protagonist met up with anybody,they're always meeting the most
randomest fucking spots, likewalking, like there was one,
like he's meeting that boss ladyon a boat, and the next scene

(44:32):
they're off the boat.
Like where are we meeting inthese random-ass spots?
I was like how are you findingthe time to track down all these
people?
I don't know.
I lost sense of time, justnormal time, because is this
going a week-long process?
Is this a month-long process oryears?
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Who knows?
There is no concept of time.
Time moves forward andbackwards.
Bullets are flying forwards andbackwards.
That's how they're able to knowwhere everything's at, because
they already knew where it wasat before they knew where it was
at.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
The villain in this movie a little bit.
Is it Andrew?
No, that's not Andrew.
Who's the villain in this movie.
I can't think of this guy'sname.
The villain, I mean like theguy.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
He ends up fighting the guy like a cat's wife or cat
husband.
I mean, uh, andrea, or whatever, stay tour, or something.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
I liked him a lot in this movie.
I thought he was pretty badassin this movie.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yeah, everybody was kind of badass in this movie.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
Yeah, everybody was kind of badass in this movie.
I mean, let's talk about thefight.
Choreography alone really.
I mean the fighting was veryunique.
My favorite fight scene wasn'teven a reverse time one, it was
like the kitchen where Cat wastrying to get him killed.
He was fighting, he beat offlike five guys with no sweat.
I really like the opening sceneof this movie the like rescuing

(46:00):
and the you know the whole bombthreat thing yeah, then he's
getting tortured, captured andtortured and then takes that
suicide bill and it wakes upyeah, that was kind of confusing
me too, like it just allhappened way too fast.
This whole movie is very, very,very fast paced, like you really
gotta be on your toes to watchit and I knew, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
I was gonna say because everything's happening
now, but it already happened inthe past yeah, you said that.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, I, I want to go back.
I'll give it another shot tore-watch this movie.
What would you give this movieone out of you?
Give this movie a 1 out of 10?
.
Give this movie a 1 out of 10?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I'll give this one more of a 6.
Yeah, I'll give this a 6.
I was going to say just becausethe action was cool.
If you watch this movie and trynot to understand the plot of
anything and just watch itbecause bullets are flying
everywhere and people arekicking ass and Robert Pattinson
looks cool, then yeah, it's acool movie, it's a fun movie.
But then once you put theconcept to time and everything

(47:06):
I'm not smart enough to knowabout that stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I mean, I think Christopher Nolan definitely
made this movie for the cinemabuffs, like, who really
appreciate film, but for theaverage moviegoer I was like
it's gonna go over their heads,like it's hard for most people
to see his vision with thismovie.
I feel like, but he, he has avision and then it's incredible,

(47:34):
he's trying to do somethingvery unique which he did unique
in this movie and, um, it'ssomething, I guess, worth
re-watching, so I'll give itanother shot but what are you
giving it stars out I'd probablygive it a six out of ten too.
Like you said, it's action'sgood, like it's directing style
is pretty good.
But the only thing, some of thecharacters' chemistry didn't

(47:56):
seem that good to me.
I feel like in this movie Icould totally tell you guys are
acting versus like, oh shit, youguys are real friends, you know
.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Well, I don't think they were supposed to be friends
in the movie per se.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Well, not like friends, but I mean like, oh, I
don't believe this.
This, this connection isgenuine.
But yeah, that's my only petpeeve about this movie.
Besides like the confusingtimelines.
Um, it had a pretty decent well.
There was no soundtrack really,besides like intense music the
entire time interesting thatthis movie bored you, but making

(48:31):
17 um.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
So Christopher Nolan is no, it's like Interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Interesting that this movie bored you, but 2017 did
so.
Christopher Nolan is known.
It's like we've seen this witha lot of his movies, like it's
almost like he takes it as achallenge to pick actors that he
likes, and he's like you knowwhat.
I think you deserve to win anaward, so I want to put you in
my movie.
We've seen that with KieranMurphy, christian Bale you know

(48:53):
people like that to win an award, so I want to put you in my
movie.
We've seen that with KieranMurphy, um, uh, christian Bale,
you know stuff.
Like people like that, likewho's who stars in this movie
and they become very successfulafterwards and I thought, I
think, and I felt like he'sgoing to have that same effect
on um.
I think these actors were prettybig before him but he does

(49:15):
stick with the same group ofactors.
Yeah, and you said some ofthese people are going to be in
the odyssey.
Robert panther's gonna be inthe odyssey too.
Yeah, christian bale was alreadya pretty big actor before he
met up with christopher nolanbut john david washington, I
mean I I talked about that onemovie I really liked him in.
I can think of maybe like three, four movies tops of movies
I've seen him in him in.
I can think of maybe like three, four movies tops of movies

(49:35):
I've seen him in, and I don'tthink I've seen him in anything
besides this movie, I mean sincethen since 2020?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
yeah, I can't think of anything he's been.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
He's a great actor and I would love to see him in
more.
I mean, I don't know if you'veseen concept art.
They got leaks for the newavenger movies.
I want to say it's him.
There's a concept art as like amultiversal Black Panther.
That's him.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Are you excited for those new Avenger movies?

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I am.
I am you know what.
I wasn't that excited forCaptain America movie and then
there should no be too.
But I'm actually kind ofexcited for the Thunderbolts
coming out pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Those are movies that storylines get watered down
with sci-fi yeah, yeah, I giveyou not star wars I didn't like
that example.
You said star wars and doom,those were two bad examples.
Now they're bringing back ironman to bring to be doomed
because there are a lot ofoptions.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Chris Evans returning is something there's rumors
that he is, but he's denyingthose rumors.
But we also seen, like everyother hero I mean other actor
deny and they end up in themovie too.
So who knows, at this pointFantastic Four is going to be
great.
I'm excited for Fantastic Four.
What other movies are you I'mexcited for.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Fantastic Four that was good.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
What other movies are you excited for coming out this
year?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
This year, that Novocaine is coming out this
week yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
I like Jack Quaid.
I like that.
I'm seeing him in more moviesnow.
Yeah, I want to see theCompanion still.
I just see now.
I think that's streaming onfandango, but I'm sure you gotta
pay for that.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
But yeah, no, that's out for rent.
I want to see that.
Um is avatar 3.
Is that coming out this year?
I believe so in the winter timeuh, 28 years later, that's
gonna be a good one.
Um the odys I don't thinkthat's coming out this year, no.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I think that's starting to film in the
summertime or something.
Which Avengers is coming out,secret War, or I think it's
Doomsday and then Secret Wars,or is that one this year?
No, none of them are this year.
Doomsday is filming this year.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
What Marvel movies are set to come out this year?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
There's Thunderbolts, there's one more, oh, fantastic
Four.
I think there's only three thisyear.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Oh, what's that new Michael B Jordan movie coming
out?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
It's coming out in April.
That does look prettyinteresting.
I'm excited to see that Alsothe guy who directed Black
Panther, ryan Coogler.
He's a good director.
I'm sorry, but that one lookspretty good too.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I'm seeing War of Combat 2 here with Johnny Cage.
That'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Superman, superman's going to be good.
Did you see?
They announced the Hancock 2?
.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Did they?
Yeah, oh, megan 2.0.
I'm ready for that one.
Oh yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
uh, final destination that one I'm actually very
excited for.
I'm excited for that one.
That's a nice little rebootthere's a lot of there's a lot
of good movies coming out thisyear actually, yeah how about
the fact that marlon wayne's youknow he's talking about the new
scary movie Six?
I believe it's coming out Areyou excited for that movie?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I mean, yeah, I hope so, but he also teased.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
After that movie they said they're going to be
considering making White Chicks2.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Yeah, that's the one I'm not so excited for.
I saw a good tweet about thatmovie.
It said you know, sometimes youjust have to realize something
worked because it came out in2004.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Yeah, I can see that, but if anyone who had a good
chance of doing it, I would sayit's the Wayne Brothers.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I agree, I agree, and I'm happy that they're still a
control scary movie.
I think that's going to be good.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be very good, I think.
What movies do you want to seethem?
Parody Do I want to see them?

Speaker 1 (53:42):
parody.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Hmm, they're definitely a parody movie I want
to see Probably the Conjuringmovies.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I can see them doing.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, what would be like their main base movie, that
parody, because the first onewas scream, the second one was
clue.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I'm trying to think what the third one was I mean,
do you think they'll tackle likethe song?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
no, I think the fourth one was soft yeah, that's
what shack.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
and uh, dr phil, I'm trying to think what the main
like.
When it was World of War.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, I think that was three, I don't know.
Maybe, like Nosferatu, I cansee that being a joke.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
I'm trying to think of what big movie they could
parody really.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
They could take all the Michael Myers movies.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Oh, that would be a good one actually.
Yeah, or it the clown movies.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, I can see them doing that petty-wise.
Or if they did an MCU parody,Didn't they do the the epic
movie?
But that wasn't the one.
That wasn't the Wayne brothers.
I don't think Was that an MC?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
parody.
Yeah, and also the one withDrake bell, I was watching that
the other night.
I was just about to say thatsuperhero movie yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
That movie's hilarious Kevin Arsenault went
to yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I'm seeing here they're also making that animal
farm movie.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
That should be good.
Yeah, they're also making acouple live action, like Lilo
Stitch is coming out this year.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Oh, did you watch that new Spongebob movie, the
one that just came out onNetflix.
Like last week planked in themovie oh no, I haven't seen that
one.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Did you just recently watch a?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Spongebob movie.
I just rewatched the originalSpongeBob SquarePants movie and
when Cindy was like Daddy no,and I was like whoa?
I was like who's this voicingCindy?
And she's like Daddy the crown?
And I'm like, oh my God.
And I have looked it up and Isaw it was Scarlett Johansson,
and I was like kid, though.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
And that movie came out in 2003.
You know what?
This is weird, but I startedplaying my PlayStation more too,
and I downloaded the SpongeBobgame that I had when I was a kid
.
I've been having fun with thatgame too.
Damn was that 2003?

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Could be.
Oh shit, shit.
I'm seeing now you see me threethis year, nice that's gonna be
a good one.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I'm a big fan of those movies.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I love those movies.
Oh yeah, the the weekend hismovies coming out this year,
hurry up tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I don't.
I seen the trailer for that.
I don't know what the fuck theplot is of that oh yeah,
jurassic World is coming outthis year.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
That's what Scarlett Johansson too.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
yeah, Is she, yeah, she stars in it.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Damn good for her.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
She's gonna have a big payday this year.
The Strangers Part 2?
.
Yeah, that movie flopped hardlast year.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
The Black Phone 2?
No movie flopped hard Craven, Ididn't even know that it came
out.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, the movie.
I shouldn't say that because Ididn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
I saw it on Prime.
I'm like when the hell did thiseven drop?
It came out in December.
I didn't even hear nothingabout it.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
That's like that Russo Brothers movie that just
came out.
With Chris Pratt on Netflix.
Chris Pratt on Netflix, chrisPratt's in it, yeah, and Millie
Bobby Brown.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Wow, I don't even know the title of it.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I don't remember what the title is, but it's on
Netflix.
It just came out this week, Ithink.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Yeah, I saw it had a $300 million budget.
I never even heard of it.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yeah, the marketing wasn't good for it too.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Because if I wasn't good for it too, because if I
wasn't like constantly on top ofthe movie news, I wouldn't have
known it either.
That's like, that's like thatmovie, the red one, or whatever
big red one.
They just gotta stop throwingthese 300 million dollar movies
out like that unless you'rechristopher nolan and I say that
he deserves it.
We deserve our ensemble castmovie.
It's been a while.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, you know what's coming out as third Knives Out
movie.
I was talking to somebody aboutthose.
It'll be cool to just pumpthose out once a year but have
an all-star cast in each movie.
That'll be sick.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Yeah, knives Out.
1 was way good.
I like 2.
I just don't like how COVID wasactually part of the movie.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
You okay, okay.
Yeah, like keep that shit outof the movies.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
That's why when people are on cell phones and
stuff just casually in movies,it kind of annoys me too.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Brandy.
Well, we want to cut it herebecause I don't want to waste
any more time.
You're a pretty busy guy yeah,I got suits.
I'll later watch suits I'lllater watch, okay.
Okay, let me know, that isbecause I'm curious, because
just episode three tonight onlybecause of victoria.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Uh, you have victoria justice stars in it.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Steven amell too, right, uh, the guy who plays
he's.
He's famous for playing greenarrow.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Um oh yeah, he is in that show.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
You know, what I just started watching actually was
daredevil.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
That's out right now that dude is green arrow.
I didn't even think about thatyeah, I just started watching
daredevil.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Um, I started watching the first episode.
I'm crying like within thefirst 15 minutes really.
I gotta watch that.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Well, I just got kicked off my cousin's.
Disney Plus they stoppedpassword sharing, like Netflix
did they did.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I'm on borrow time, so I wish they would have him
pump him all out that's sogreedy well.
Thank you, brandon, for comingon.
I'm excited, that's so greedyWell.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Thank you, brandon, for coming on.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I'm excited I wanted to see you on too, because it
was good.
I like how we had bothdifferent views of this movie.
I was trying not to be toohateful.
Oh, trust me, if you would have, you could have.
I mean, you would have went inon this hot movie.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I feel like last time I was on here I hated on the
movie.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
It probably won't be the last time either.
So, um, it's going to be a bigsummer.
I know we're going to we'reprobably gonna be going on there
a lot, my brother's inMilwaukee so I'm going to go,
try to go Milwaukee a lot morein the summer.
So you more than welcome tocome.
Um it it's gonna be a good year, good summer and, uh, hopefully
you start feeling better too sowe can meet up pretty soon.
Um, next week I'm having apretty a first timer on this

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podcast.
Another movie reviewer who Ifound on instagram, so I'm
excited to talk to her about the.
We're uh, nova kane actuallynova kane's gonna be next
episode and we're gonna go backand talk about the companion too
.
So I'm excited about thatepisode.
It's gonna be all jack quakenext movie jack quake episode
yeah, yeah, um, thank you foreveryone listening.
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