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New review for Bob Odenkirk's new action sequel, Nobody 2. We discussed our thoughts on the franschise, discuss the plot, casting, and writing. 

We first kick off the episode by discussing HBO Peacemaker show and the James Gunn's track record. We also discuss streaming platforms and current shows we are watching, including Alien Romulus. And end the show with a quick review of Freaky Tales, currently streaming on HBO Max. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
excuse me, is anybody sitting here?
Sorry, this is taken.
Sorry, all right.
I am pleased to announce that Iam all caught up on peacemaker
now oh, right in time the weekbeforehand.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh my gosh, what did you think?
It was good it was good.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I had zero idea about the plot.
I just knew it was john cena aspeacemaker and I.
I knew a handful of the actorsfrom other movies and stuff yeah
did not know the villains werebutterflies and a space cow,
that thing.
I mean it's so ridiculous, it'sso fun.
John cena is a lot of fun butlike a lot of his characters are
just this character now likejust it's just goofy.

(00:44):
He's goofy guy, he's a good.
I love watching him interview.
He's such a nice guy too.
It was a great show.
I didn't realize james gunnalso wrote that show too.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
The first season wrote and directed.
That's like his one-two combo,um.
And now, obviously, withsuperman, he's using this to tie
everything back, like we had anew uh universe I.
It's his world, man, we're justliving in it he's man.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
This guy is so fucking talented.
I get writing the guardians ofthe galaxy like you put your
heart and soul into that.
I get writing scooby-doo, right.
How do you do that and becomehits with so many different
characters?
You know, like, what is thesecret?
Like how does he put himself inthe mindset of doing a superman
movie versus a peacemaker movie?
Totally different kind of vibes, superman's boy scout, this
one's like like juvenile stufflike he it's.

(01:30):
It's insane how his mind works.
I like listening to his podcast, like I warrant his guest
appearances because it's likeyou're picking his brain a
little bit at a time.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
It's, he's a genius, I'm happy and now like to see
this creator turn ceo, but likehe's a genius.
And now like to see thiscreator turn CEO, but like he's
purely on that.
I'm focused on, like makingmore things.
Like even he just talked abouthow he has already finished or
is about to finish the story forthe new Superman family movie.
And everyone's like do yousleep?
Like are you actually producingthis?

(02:01):
And it'd be one thing if it wasthe same content, like you said
, like I, even part of me, cansee the jump between a guardians
and then a suicide squad, rightlike it's just r-rated
guardians, like in your head.
But then you watch the movie,you're like no, this is
completely different.
And then picking peacemaker tomake the movie about, and now
superman it's like this guy ishamilton, like writing and
writing until he's running outof time, like this is everything

(02:23):
to me I mean he's he's talkedabout before writing peacemaker
season two while on vacationwith his wife and friends.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Um, in my mind I'm like, is she gonna do complain
like she's the one getting putin these movies for?
No, she's actually like give memore screen time if you don't
mind exactly yeah, she has thatthat I have heard, actually I,
she does not complain about itat all, I mean, she understands
his job and um she's all for it,which is cool.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
He yeah well it pops to her.
I didn't.
I didn't know um like about therelationship until peacemaker
um, and I was like I get it, Iwould do the exact same thing.
Um, I did.
Um, obviously there was like alittle bit of backlash when he
announced that he was resettingthe universe and, you know,

(03:08):
wiping the slate clean like allnew characters, but of course,
his few characters frompeacemaker would still be around
.
How did you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I'm all for it because, especially how popular
peacemaker was, I'm just morecurious how he's gonna do it
because, like, justice leaguedoes make an appearance at the
end of the first season and wesee from the trailers it's gonna
be like a multiversal.
He's gonna come in face to facewith another peacemaker, so,
like, is he gonna just take aspot?
And if that's the case, whatabout all these other characters
that we fell in love with?
You know, like what's gonnahappen there?

(03:38):
Because he doesn't have anyother ties with this universe.
Basically, besides this groupof people and I think it's safe
to say about the other group too, they don't really have any
odds besides this one grouptogether, exactly Maybe the one
I can't remember her name butthe one who's a Waller's
daughter.
She has a wife, like is thewife going to come over to?
Like, how exactly is it goingto work?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think only a handful.
But yeah, I'm right there withyou.
You know, minus that post orminus the justice league showing
up, they, they do have a littlebit more of a clean slate if
I'm not mistaken waller's uhcanon to the new one too right
yes, and that's the thing thatkind of threw me, like he said,
and obviously it could be morefrom the show.
He said for sure, cena parkourtand um waller.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So I'm, I'm, I'm very curious on who else so I'm, I'm
, I'm very curious on who elsemakes the uh, the jump over.
I I don't see too much comingover.
Um, just because I think it issmart to start with a clean
slate.
I, I really liked it.
I mean, if I don't think ifsomebody else wrote and directed
peacemaker season one, I cansee them having a chance of not

(04:41):
coming over.
But because gene guns, who puthis heart and soul to this and
he really fell in love with thecharacter, of course he's going
to do whatever he can to bringthem over.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, this is his love letter.
But I remember I got into anargument about Superman with one
of my buddies and I said, hey,are you going to watch it?
He's like no, I don't thinkit's going to be good.
And I walked him through.
I'm like hey, did you likeGuardians?
Yeah, I loved it.
I was like you like Guardians 2and 3?
Absolute bangers.
Did you like Peacemaker?
Yeah.
Did you like Suicide Squad?
Yeah, then you're going to likeSuperman.

(05:11):
It's the same dude who wrote itand now he's in charge.
I think the best thing.
Firing James Gunn, like can youimagine where we would be if
that didn't happen?
And he was still.
You know he would essentiallybe Kevin Feige at this point
because that was originally theplan for him.
And now you know they'rereaping the fruits of their

(05:35):
labor on the DC end.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I mean DC wanted James Gunn for longest to write
a Superman movie.
I think at the time he wasgoing to do this is like when he
just got fired.
Kevin Feige thought he wasgoing to go write a Superman
movie for him but for them.
But he decided it was a SuicideSquad movie.
He didn't want to do Supermanquite yet.
But if he had it would havebeen for the Henry Caldwell

(05:57):
Superman too.
So I think it would have.
I think it was best for him tostart off clean and with a brand
new super 100% and like not fornothing.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
And obviously you know the super, uh, the suicide
squad film.
Amongst people who've seen itnow Absolutely love it.
It's adored.
At the time coming post COVID,it only made like 300 mil, Like
it was a flop by box officestandards.
Um, but I'm glad that theystuck with him and was like no,
that's a quality film, You're agreat director.
Like let's just keep the ballrolling.
And again, like I think for himseeing, obviously, when Marvel

(06:30):
dumped him or Disney dumped himI should, I should clarify and
even though they brought himback, like DC just stuck with
him and was like nope, you'rethe guy we, this is what we want
.
So I think that was reallyimportant for him as well.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, how about this isn't like to have a short
theater run for Superman too,Like it's already available to
rent and you can buy it on?
It's going to be streaming onum max pretty soon, I would say
with I'll give it like less thana month.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, I'm happy that, um, cause typically they have
that 45 weight day window deal.
But I I see a little tom cruisein him and was like you know
what, let's actually still keepit in the theater like we're not
doing an exclusive deal thistime.
And I think that's gonna panout for him because, let me tell
you, I can't believe we didn'ttalk about this yet.
Did you see the featurette?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
like the behind the scenes feature I've seen clips
of it but that isn't my list towatch and it it looks amazing,
especially that scene where hefell in love with david
cornfield, like that, thatmonologue.
At the end they have their backand forth about like the
reasoning behind it and just seethem as an actor like just
really brainstorm it out andhe's just gonna be like, hey,
just trust me, bro, I got thisliterally just yeah, let me, let

(07:35):
me cook.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Um, yeah, I, I watched it.
It's incredible.
I sent it to danny.
Uh, I said, hey, bro, this islike one of the best behind the
scenes clips I've ever seen inmy life.
And he called me.
He said that's a movie, it's anhour long, but I'm like that's
fair, that's fair.
Watch it anyway.
Uh.
But it also made me reallyexcited to go, uh, go out and
buy it on physical media when itcomes out oh, I'm sure, because

(07:58):
it'd probably be a bunch ofdeleted scenes, behind the
scenes stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Um, there has to be some cool cover art or something
like that inside the case.
Um, yeah, that that's.
I'm excited for dce dcu, but Ijust finished peacemaker 2.
I told you I think I want to bemore involved with pop culture
shows, so I'm going to go watcha lot of shows I didn't catch up
on, like um, you're gonna killme for this, but I've never seen
stranger things.
I know the new season's comingout very soon.

(08:22):
I want to go through breeze, dothat, but I just started
because it's brand new and I'mwatching as it's coming out.
Uh, alien earth that's on huluright now.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Okay, are you big fan of so far?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I'm only like halfway through the first episode and
it's very, I would say,nostalgic, but also like a like
a great tribute to the originalones, because the way the
opening shot is it's pretty muchexactly the first aliens movie,
like it's almost shot for shotthe same.
It looks cool.
Okay, have you seen those?
Are you a big fan of thosefranchise?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I'm not.
I'm not just because, uh, uh,you know me and horror, like
it's not technically horror, butit's like weird enough where I
never wanted to go see it and itjust never fell into my lap.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
You haven't seen alien romulus, then, oh man,
you're missing out such a greatmovie no, the girl plays hawk.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm superman.
She's in there and she I Ithink I said on the review like
she's gonna become the newscream queen, because her scream
was so great in that movie umbut this that is my fear if she
falls into the uh because she'sgoing, she's on the line of
becoming like a jenna ortegatype, and if that happens I'll
be pissed oh no, you know whatshe's adora with a soft girl.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I don't think she's gonna do the same thing as jenna
ortega.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, she's a lot I mean I've seen just like you,
like it's funny.
I've seen this girl forever nowlike a similar.
I know I know her from there.
Um the like mark walbert movie,um there was like this really
weird jason momoa movie with her, like I like.
But now I finally likerecognize her when she's on
screen, like I think it startedwhen I was watching last of us.
I was like, isn't that thatgirl?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
and now from this I'm like all right, she's, she's a
working actress, so go her good,yeah, working actress,
understand, dude, she's been inso many things in the past two
years, um, and top of that,she's gorgeous.
I love watching her on screen.
I think she's one of mycelebrity crushes, I should say.
Um, I figure we're leading withthat, but alien franchise, like
I, I'm like it's still comingout.
I think the first two episodesare available right now, but

(10:17):
there are a lot of easter eggsthat I'm going to go through and
re-watch them.
Um, um, but I'm having fun withthis.
So far, it's a good show, it'sa good promise this does.
There's, like, several alienmovies out, and this takes place
between the first movie andalien rom, alien romulus, so I'm
waiting to see the connectionthere.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think there is a confirmed sequel for alien
romulus, so I'm excited to hearthat or see that I'm excited for
all of you because I genuinelylike people are putting that in
the top five of the year forthat.
Well you know.
So, hey, have a good time.
I may end up watching it.
I think you, you can convinceme.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
It's, it's I'm well, besides just being a good horror
movie and a good sci-fi movie,it's just a great storytelling
movie.
Um, it's, it's.
It puts you in a place likedamn, I wonder how I would react
, and kind of things like that.
It's especially watching.
I remember watching alienrhyming in theaters by myself

(11:12):
and I was.
I was like terrified.
It was good the way, the show.
And then I watched it againlike a year later in a in with
my friend's house with a bunchof us.
All of us sucked, sucked in,loved it.
So it does hold up.
I think it's gonna hold up fora long time.
All the alien really moviesreally hold up, just because,
for the simple fact, all thesemovies are taking place like in
200, 300 years from now, um, soyou can't really plug it in.

(11:38):
I mean, this is the first timeI'm not sure the first time or
one of the first times that yousee this franchise on earth.
Like it's canon out that theice age movies are in this
universe.
Like I don't know if you'veseen that tweet or meme yet
someone is watching ice age um,meltdown or something like that,
whatever one of the uh um, butit is canon, it is fun, it is

(11:59):
part of pop culture and I'mexcited for it.
I'm excited for everythingalien does.
Um, I'm gonna be excited forstranger things.
That's gonna be my next bigbear that I'll tackle.
Um, I think I got peacemakerdone in two weeks, which is
insane because it's only eightepisodes but they're like over
an hour long each.
I do watch on my lunch breaksand then I'll watch it when I'm
folding laundry, but that'sabout it.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Um, when when you're going back to peacemaker real
quick.
Obviously we always.
We always talk about thedifference between binging and
watching.
Now that you've seen it, canyou imagine the like stress we
were all going through?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
yeah, after a week waiting for like the next
episode to drop, why I'm so gladI timed it perfectly.
Like last season was like twoyears ago, right, yeah, this,
yeah, like I have to wait a week, so it is perfect time.
Do you like it when thestreaming system drops all the
episodes at once, or would youprefer week by week?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
if it's not an important show, drop it to me
all at once, like if it's like,but if it's something like
peacemaker, that I need to hitthe pop culture, like injection
into my veins, that I think ithas to be weekly.
That's what gets every, becausethen it, like spoilers is
really the thing that messes itup.
If it drops in one time,everyone's afraid to talk about
it because you don't know whatepisode everyone is on.

(13:11):
If it's weekly, you're like allright, you, you better be
caught up, because now, like,we're all again anticipating
together, so I think it has alonger staying power.
What about you?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think that's a I was gonna say all at once, but
you put up a very good argumentit is fun like we're all
enjoying it together, versuslike if it comes out on
wednesday night.
Well, a lot of people workwednesday night and you know,
like you said, there's a bunchof articles like it is good for
content creators too, who doreviews or just talk about
easter eggs and stuff like that.
Um, they can spread out theircontent a little bit more.
Um versus, like you said, oh,you got content for the weekend

(13:43):
you know yeah so I I do enjoythat.
It's just anticipation, alsolike it's throwback when we used
to watch tv shows with hisfamily, like back in the day,
you know, let's all gatheraround thursday nights or
something like that to view it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
I remember when the uh, the mandalorian first
dropped, like I, we would all goto sweat's house like cram in
his basement, like people Ididn't even talk to, and just
like watch this hour of StarWars television.
Like there's something aboutthat part like having a plan to
do, like let's order some Dorato Ashley, let's get a drink or
two and let's let's you know,make this a moment.
And I think that that meansmore to me.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
What is a show that you remember that your family
used to do that to Like when youwere younger family or friends,
I guess Throwback which ishilarious for me.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
We watch Grey, we're friends, I guess, throwback.
Uh, which is hilarious for me,bro, I, we watch gray's anatomy
religiously, like I, you gottathink.
I have three sisters and my mom, like me, and my dad were out
numbered and my dad was, youknow, preaching.
So it was a thursday night, itwas shonda verse on abc network.
Uh, uh, gray's anatomy scandaland how to get away with murder.
But gray's is.
Gray's is the one that alwaysstuck with me.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Nice, nice.
I remember this isn't like areality show, but dude, I don't
know why, because I have twobrothers, a sister and my mom in
this home, and we all haddifferent tastes, very different
tastes, but one that I rememberwe all came up with was
America's Best Dance Crew.
Every Thursday night on MTV, weused to watch that all the

(15:11):
fucking time.
None of us can dance, mind you,like I don't know what our
interest was.
The jet, the jet walkies, hadus sucked in every week.
Um, I remember me and my momusually used to watch shows a
lot, but the good doctor wasanother one.
Um, okay, the flash on cw meand my dad used to watch you
know what is also every thursdaynight was impractical jokers.
That was a big one for a lot ofus too.
Love, oh you know what?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
oh, you just unlocked the memory.
We used to watch um operationrepo.
Yeah, oh my god, that show wason 24 7 my dad loves shows like
that.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Um, what's the one in detroit?
The pawn shop, yeah, and pawnstars?
Um, my dad still watches tothis day.
He used to watch jerryspringers and mori every single
day.
Uh, jerry springer, mori and uh, steve wilkos that was his guy,
steve wilkos, though, granted,like you stay home from work,
school or something like that,you guarantee that's going to be

(16:04):
on the tv 1000.
You know that 11 am hour yeah um, this is a long intro for
people.
Listen, we are doing a moviereview.
This episode we're going to betalking about nobody too.
Um, it's been a while like it'sa lot of movie news and now one
thing you do want to bring uplike there's there's been a lot
of Spider-Man news too lately.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, absolutely.
We got, like you know, more setphotos.
Like obviously they're doinglike a little bit more of an
open set.
You know, I'm still split on itbecause I'm enjoying everything
we're seeing, but I am gettingnervous Like I don't want to see
everything, like leave some forthe theater.
But like this is how you marketa movie I know we talked about

(16:48):
this last time like showing thatbuilding this anticipation
without really giving anythingaway, like a year in advance,
this movie is going to be great.
Everything I've seen so far allindicates that way.
How are you feeling about it?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm kind of the same boat.
I'm getting a little bitnervous too.
But, like I said, like this isas of right now, I I guarantee
you, when a movie comes out, I'mgonna forget everything I saw
uh, some people aren't like me.
Um, it is scheduled.
I think they just finishedscheduling uh, filming outdoors,
like where they were thatpreviously, like they're moving
on, probably the like closedsets now.
Um, and I can see them addingin cgi care, like the hulk later

(17:17):
, or something like that orwhatever.
Because that's the thing, likeyou, you, what happens with this
footage that you see themfilming?
People are just guessing whatthe plot is going to be now.
Like that scene with the tanks,like oh it's, it's punisher,
going to go fight the hulk.
I was like that's 100 when Isaw I kind of like, no, I kind
of doubt that they won.
Like well, the hulk the lastwe've seen him, he's like a dad
now and as smart hulk, like andlike I I seen.

(17:42):
I don't know if you follow theescape.
I think you do, because yousent me a couple of tickets.
Oh yeah, one of the things theytalked about was like the plot
is rumored to be someone isgoing to trade the hawk and
that's how we're going to getsavage hawk again.
But they were like like then,that's like the eighth time
someone tried doing that.
Like you have loki, you havelike wanda and you know ultron
and stuff like that in it's.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
It's a little bit lazy at that point, so like I
don't see them she-hulk, likethat was the entire plot of
she-hulk yeah, I don't see.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, exactly, I don't see that happening.
I hope not at least, and thatthat is like I, I don't know,
and that, no, I that makes menervous, that better not be the
case, let me tell you that rightnow it better not be and like
for why?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
you know there's so much like the whole point about
this one, and the thing that Ithink is getting the most people
excited is the street-levelcrime.
You know, like Spidey, andthat's why the Punisher like
makes sense.
So obviously, if the Hulk thething is, in every one of the
Spider-Man movies he's had amentor that was an Avenger Like.
That's why it works right fromIron man to Doctor Strange, and

(18:44):
now like it would make sensethat a science-based Bruce
Banner Hulk version is the onelike trying to coach him or
mentor him through this.
So that's where I think I don'tknow why everyone just assumes
it's gonna be batshit Hulk.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
That doesn't even make sense you also gotta
remember, like Bruce Banner wasBruce Banner in Shang-C chi,
like in that incredible 100 witha broken arm still we never saw
like, okay, can he change backthen, or like you know it was,
it was weird.
Um, I mean shang chi, we justhaven't heard anything about
sense.
There's so much like stuffthat's hanging, I think they're.

(19:19):
I think marvel has taken noteson that.
Yeah, they're done doing thatstuff with the cliffhangers, um,
but spider-man, as far as weknow, like there's, there's the
punisher, there's uh hawk,there's scorpion, you know, I
think you know, because the ruleis with sony like if he goes
he's spying was gonna be in amarvel movie, he has to be with
an a-list avenger.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And I remember when it first came out, like I think
it was paul rudd originally whowas gonna, who was gonna be the
ant-man, I think they switchedto mark ruffalo, which I think,
well, once clark manias came out, I, I, I don't see anything
else, um zendaya and his friendum, what's his name?

Speaker 1 (19:54):
in the movie ned ned is returning too, I think, for
bigger, big roles again too, ifI'm not mistaken, which is like
all right, you can kind of leavethem behind, like I wouldn't be
upset if you left them.
Mind, uh, because there's alsotalks about introducing harry
osborn in this movie rumors thatmiles morales is going to be in
there.
Because, like, uh, they'recasting for the I can't remember
her name, for the lady from thebear is rumored to play his mom

(20:16):
in this movie.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Okay, um that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Mary jane is supposed like I.
I know.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I did see that, sadie , yeah it hasn't been confirmed.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's who she is, but it's most likely.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
I would say yeah that's her and I'm okay with
that.
I want to see a love triangle.
I don't care, a love triangle.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I remember at one point there was talks about him
having a love interest with anX-Men, which he does for a short
period of time in the comics.
Um, that'd be interesting.
That'd be cool way to tie inthe x-men too.
Um, I was at this point.
I just want to see him befriends with johnny storm yeah,
oh they, we talked about this.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
You know they're gonna get along yeah, yeah it's.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
It's interesting how they're gonna do everything,
which is this was gonna takeplace between avengers, doomsday
and secret wars.
Secret wars now it.
Just that didn't make senseWith the kind of story you
wanted to tell in the new one.
It's kind of good because Ithink it's going to hopefully
end with going into Doomsday.
It still hasn't been confirmedto how Mulholland's going to be
in Doomsday, but I would say forsure Secret Wars at least.

(21:18):
Because in the Secret Wars,that's where he gets the Venom
suit.
He'll suit, he'll need to be insecret wars.
I can't imagine a world wherethey don't.
Yeah, and I don't know.
Like tom holland is sowishy-washy, we're like, oh,
like I'm gonna retire after thisyear and like I'm done playing
spider-man and then like, yeah,but he's excited to come on the
set and stuff like that.
I was like so do you want tokeep playing or what like?
Are you not happy with thiskind of role?

(21:38):
Like no, I think he is.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I think he's good for this trilogy.
I think that he is absolutelygoing to make another trilogy
and then he may retire fromacting or depending, you know
what it's going to be, dependingon the reaction to him in the
Odyssey, right, because this ishis first like not first real
role.
But this is like he's numbertwo, it's Matt Damon.

(22:01):
It's him In a ChristopherNolan-directed movie.
So this, like you're standingon your own here, man, he's
number two.
It's matt damon.
It's him, uh, in a christophernolan directed movie.
So this, like you're standingon your own here, man you got.
Do you have this to be the next?
You know, live up to thetimothy chalamet as a peer, or
are you gonna fall behind?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
um, once, if he does good in this movie, I think he
would eventually move up toleonardo theCaprio status, where
he can come out with a movieonce every five years then yeah,
well, and he's talking aboutthis, right?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
He's, you know, happy livinghis life with Zendaya, which
don't blame him.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And coming with both of them.
They could stop working todayand never have to work a day in
their life, and never for therest of, for a whole generation.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
They're already taken care of.
So that's also like he's builtthis empire, uh, but I think
like it's not.
Like ego is the wrong word, butI think he really wants to
prove to everybody that he ismore than just spider-man.
I think that's really importantto him.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
So you know, once this happens, he'll be good to
go which isn't wrong, because,like all the spiderman done that
tubby mcguire did the samething.
Started without andrew garfield, like they, they'd gone to have
very successful career.
I think andrew garfield has thebiggest one so far, for sure
for sure, two-time oscarnominated.
I want to say yeah, yeah and,like tom, honda also loves doing

(23:18):
theater too, so he probablywould want to slow down for that
.
Like I said, zendaya is betweenI think she has her makeup line
and he has like a um,non-alcoholic beer line plus
with other small businessprobably.
So they're good, like I'mexcited because, like they're,
marvel's gonna go through a softreboot and my biggest question
is, like, all right, is thisstill gonna be my spider-man,
you know?
Is he gonna be making it at theend of it?

(23:39):
I think I don't.
It hasn't been confirmed thatthey're doing a trilogy with the
second half.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Um no, but yes it's, it's unofficial.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
But we all know what they're trying to do.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I know he's really.
He would like to hand it off tomiles Morales, which will be
cool, but there's so many coolSpider-Man stories I want to see
you know like I want,especially like now teenager
that's how it's looking, uh, andthat's exactly like.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
That's why I love what's happening so far, like we
saw high school spidey and nowI'm excited to see like the
growth of that yeah, there'stalks.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
We're going to get a norman osborne too, and um harry
osborne I want to see, I wantto see the green goblin again.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
You know well yeah you, if this is all we're
getting, I want to see them goall out.
But yeah, you're exactly right.
Like then, the goal is not toreset, it's just to pass the
torch.
And I think, once you know,even if his trilogy really
counts as this movie, doomsday,and you know, secret wars, if he
pops up in both um, or if hedoes like aing one after Secret
Wars.
That was my three-picture deal.

(24:46):
I'm done.
Passing the baton off to thatnew generation is going to be
foundational.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
He will then have been Spider-Man Do you think
they would just stop making himappearance, or do you think they
would kill him off?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
No, I think they would just, just oh, do like
another spider verse.
Like he is the uncle ben, youknow, like he's the inception of
, like that.
That would be cool, I thinkthat they're.
They'd be crazy to do thatbecause of how young tom holland
is.
I think, like the, the idea ofhaving him out there, you know

(25:25):
um, and you can bring him backat any time, would be very
attractive to sony and I mean itjust begs the question like how
long do you think marvel isgoing to keep going like it's
been going since 08?
when they stopped making billiondollar movies.
You know not even when theystopped making 650 million

(25:45):
dollar movies when they startedmaking 500 million dollar movies
.
A story is a story is a story.
I think that it made a lot ofpeople nervous.
What feige said about secretwars, essentially resetting the
mcu, yeah, um.
But that also intrigued me in away that's like all right when
you say reset.
My interpretation of that,which would be positive, is

(26:06):
starting at this point, youdon't need to watch the other 40
movies to be caught up, like wedon't have to do homework to
get into this.
If it like resets us in a way,that's like all right, you can
hop in here and this is the newlaunch point, because we're
going to have so many charactersthat you can then follow
whoever you like.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I think that is what will help the MCU and it's kind
of why it's because that's we'regoing to lead up to.
You think we would starthearing casting now around this
time, you know, for, like, thenew captain america or the new
wolverine or whatever it may be,I feel like that's something
they should be working on now.
If not, they probably are, butI would think we would hear
about it.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh yeah, yeah I mean the same thing.
Like uh, uh, desmond.
Um, you know who's like blackpanther.
Like they're already.
They know who it is like, buthe's you.
Whether they're in contractnegotiations or they just don't
want to, you know they'reprotecting it.
People also forget at lastpoint on this how good Marvel
was in its peak of not sayinganything.

(27:01):
Like they have.
They had that under wraps, likethat's why they made the joke
of Kevin Feige with the sniperwhen they're doing interviews,
like they're not going to shareanything that they don't want to
.
Uh, on their time frame,there's leaks that are happening
, but for the most part they'llbe good.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah and I think it is rumored that any minute now
or any day now, we should begetting another casting chair
thing that they did for thefirst time really see who else
might be in it.
I think it's so.
I think I believe that rumorjust because, like, ryan
reynolds made that weird post onInstagram Did you see that with
anarchy sign over the Avengersign?
It was like that's kind ofrandom timing and he didn't know
leave any context with it.

(27:37):
Like, okay, like, is it goingto be like another Spider-Man
thing where they're filmingoutside and people are going to
eventually end up seeingcostumes and actors which is
that they did it, and-man andeverything?
Yeah, um, so I think that'swhat they're gonna get set up
for doing, because they're gonnabe filming in public a little

(27:59):
bit more.
Um, a lot of, a lot of a lot ofmovie.
Marvel updates uh, dc has a lotof great things going on too,
so, but we, I think it's timefor us to get into the movie
review we're going to be talkingabout nobody to just came out.
I've been like openly likejudgmental and hating over this

(28:22):
movie before I've seen it,before I even see the first one.
I've seen the first one the daybefore I've seen the second one
, um, starring Bob Odenkirk.
And for people to know, aboutnobody too.
This movie is about suburbandad hutch mansell.
A former lethal assassin, ispulled back into the violent
past after thwarting a homeinvasion, setting off a chain
events of a that unravel secretsabout his wife becca's past and

(28:47):
his own.
Okay, let's talk about thefirst one for like a bit,
because I feel like this moviethis first one and second one
was exactly the same, with theexception with his wife.
It even opens up exactly thesame with him getting
interrogated looking all toughand then like who are you?
and of course, at least at thetime of card, nobody, kind of

(29:07):
like invincible in the show.
Invincible, yeah, um.
So the first one?
Like both these movies?
Well, I should say the second.
Um, so the first one like boththese movies?
Well, I should say the secondone, because the first one was
exactly as bad as I thought itwas gonna be.
The second one did surprise mea little bit because it did a
little bit better.
I know what you're gonna say,but listen, hear me out.
I feel like I don't know if thismovie and maybe it wasn't,

(29:28):
maybe that's why I'm not gettingit the movie was written as a
spoof on other movies like this,because I feel like this movie
took all the cliches from JohnWick to Taken and all of the
Jason Statham movies, all thecliches and put them in this
movie, between the cheesy, lazyplot line, the chain of

(29:49):
reactions to the mystery past,to the cheesy one-liners after
killing somebody like and on topof it, it's bob odenkirk, who's
not known for roles like this.
He's known for comedy, which isthe same thing like well, I
wouldn't say like, like comedy,but like liam nielsen, like
before taken.
I wouldn't no one would everforget he was in roles like this
and now that's all he getsoffered.
It was this tough guy roles.
Same thing with jason stathamlike he, that that's his role.

(30:11):
It's the same kind of personlike so, bob casting bob
odenkirk was reminding me ofleonis neeson in this kind of
role.
Like the older man who youdon't realize is a very talented
, yeah, assassin.
On top of that you have clicheslike the mystery past, like,
okay, this guy was alsoestablished assassin.
He even has gold coins.
Like john wick.

(30:31):
Um, if you were to tell me thatthis movie was in the john wick
world, I would totally believeit.
Like he has a handler, kind oflike winston and the continental
yep.
Um, he has a brother who comesin at the very last second.
Help him.
Kind of like john fishers uh,not john fishers um, what's his
name?
Lawrence fish.
For lawrence fishburn'scharacter I can't talk um.

(30:53):
So I feel like this movie justborrows way, way too much, to
the point where I was like, okay, they have to be doing this as
a joke, almost I told you listen, this is what I meant, where
I'm like it's in the same.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
like John Wick, like gun foo We've seen this from
John Wick to pig to this, tosilent night or violent night
Like it's the same thing.
So for me this one was a littlebit more surprising because it
is like Bob Odenkirk and like heplays it very well.

(31:34):
I think if this movie tookitself any more seriously I'd
probably hate it.
But the first one, like, was sogood and like this Monday,
because it was different of likeobviously we have these revenge
tales and like that's what he'sdoing.
But it's like the familydynamic of this guy just getting
beat to shit, his relationshipsucks, his kids don't respect
him and he's just like silently,like don't activate me, bro.

(31:58):
Like at once this, you can'tput the genie back in the bottle
.
So I appreciate it.
Like his journey of like justtrying to get the stupid uh
thing for his daughter, uh, butlike, how crazy that guy I think
this is like what every whitesuburban dad thinks he is 100
like yeah, don't fuck with medon't fuck with my family

(32:19):
because I will fuck you up.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
This guy's like taking all armies, like killed
assassins and stuff that to thepoint.
Like you know that there'sjokes in john wick movie like
he's the guy you go sent to killthe boogeyman.
I would like to see a crossoverwhere Bob Odenkirk is the
boogeyman and see that face.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Okay, that would be okay.
But that's the thing too.
Like it's not even and maybethis is like I have a little bit
more like pay attention to itin different ways, because
obviously like the militarybackground for me, but I'm
always like I don't want the guyto be a superhero, you know, I
don't need that, um, but I dowant him like it's different

(32:55):
when he's going against theassassins, but when he's just
beating up makes my heart happenlike hell.
Yeah, like when he gets back onthe bus in the first one and
he's like all right, like youhad your chance and is wrecking
them uh, you know that workedfor me versus you know we'll
talk about the new one.
Uh, there's some scenes in thisone that I was like all right,

(33:16):
to your point, we've, we'vecrossed the line.
Like it is getting a littlecampy okay.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
So I'm glad you brought that up because, like
the first one, it was good.
With action, I'm not gonna bashthe action at all because the
killings, the fighting, the gunscenes were very cool.
Even they even pulled offchristopher lloyd making me
laugh holding the shotgun.
You know being a badass, youknow he felt cool that day.
You know this is probably oneof the coolest action scenes
he's ever done in his wholecareer with bob odenkirk.

(33:41):
And to see them like back toback to back, you know it was
funny, it was good.
Um, the second movie we can getinto the second movie now
because it's I like the.
The best thing I liked aboutthis movie is this movie is like
a direct uh cause direct sequelto the events that happened in

(34:01):
the first one, which might mean,but like that, he's a retired
assassin but he's brought backinto work because of his actions
.
In the first one he he ended uptaking the russian mafia's uh
cash and burning it.
So now he has to get back,pulled in the game and work it
off.
So he's working non-stopassassins.
I like that aspect of it andthat's why the reason he was
pulled back into the game,versus like another stupid

(34:22):
reason or anything like that,like as the first movie.
Like, uh, like you said, itstole her daughter's bracelet, I
think.
Yeah, so that was a good reasonto have him keep doing it.
And then it's catching up.
It's taking a toll on himphysically and it's also taking
a toll on his marriage and hisfamily.
He's not there as much, um.
So you know what?
Let's do?
A family vacation.
So the plot of aspect of wherewe're at now I like that at all,

(34:43):
but everything else was exactlythe same.
Like he ends up pissing out thewrong guys and it's like a
miscommunication of what's beengoing on and then, well, fuck,
the boss catches wind of it andnow you gotta face off the boss.
It's like same and again savedby your brother and your and
your dad.
Again, like it's, it's the sameexact movie, um, with the

(35:03):
exception of the wife being moreunderstanding of it now.
And also you find out she has alittle bit skill at the end.
Um, but I feel like that wasbrought too late into the movie.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
This is a very short movie.
Both of them are very like anhour and a half, which is
another thing I love about it.
Brother, I cannot tell you thefact that if this movie was 15
minutes longer on either end,I'd hate this movie.
It would drop significantly forme.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
I 1,000% agree with that, because the plot is
nothing difficult that somepeople can't understand.
It's very easy to follow, so youcan't really stretch that too
much.
The action you know what?
This movie I didn't care for inthe beginning, at the very
beginning.
It wasn't until because beforeyou see him montages of fighting

(35:48):
and killing people I was like,alright, show me something
different.
It wasn't until they're onvacation and you see this movie
in trailer.
At this moment in trailer it'slike where his daughter gets
slapped by that, like that giantman.
That instantly pissed me off,instantly.
That got the biggest reactionout of me the whole movie.
I was like, all right, now Iget it.
Now I understand why he wouldreact the way he works.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Any father would yeah , yeah, like you said, it's like
everyone's dream.
Like if I was in that situation, I will say I, okay, loved it,
loved every second of it.
I thought it was a dreamsequence, until I remember what
movie I was watching, like he,like I was waiting for them to
be like and seen, and then he'slike, like you know, he let it

(36:31):
go hell.
No, that actually went in there, because when the when the uh
manager was like throwing hisson around, I also was like you
know this, I work in arcades aswell, so everything about that
aggravated me.
I was like in what world?
But whatever, and I'm like allright, that's a grown man.
Okay, that's interesting.
He slapped the daughter I've.
I almost jumped out of my seat,like I tensed up.

(36:52):
I was like oh, you can't letthat slide yeah you cannot let
that slide, and I'm glad hedidn't.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I'm glad you pointed.
I thought the same thing too.
I thought he was gonna walk inthe door and then his wife was
gonna grab him or something likethat.
Um, I went to go see this withmy dad too, and he seemed he had
the same exact reaction, likebecause he was a bouncer too for
many bars.
So you know he knows that shitdoesn't slide, especially like a
man.
It'll be different.
It was a kid, like managerslapping him.
It was a grown, huge man andthen, you know, fucking him up.

(37:18):
And they also ended up fuckingup just innocent bystanders,
like that guy with thewhack-a-mole machine.
That was so funny though yeah,I mean it was, it was awesome.
And then it does piss you offtoo when they're the only ones
that get arrested with for whathappened.
And then, um, you, this is whereyou meet the sheriff at one
point.
Who the sheriff is?
Played by colin hanks, if I'mnot mistaken.

(37:38):
Hanks, tom hanks's son.
I knew this guy looked familiarthe whole time.
It wasn't until, like rightbefore this, we started
recording that I looked it up.
Um, I don't know how do youfeel about him?
Like I was like, do you thinkhe's I don't think he's living
up to his father's footsteps.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
No.
So I know him.
Uh, jumanji, the new Jumanji,he's in prevalently, uh, or not
prevalently.
He's the uh, he's, he's acharacter in there.
So now his face is burned intomy head, um, and I think that I
think that he's doing it right,like I don't need him being

(38:14):
leading man, like right rightnow, like nepotism, right.
I like him kind of acting chops,like similar to like scott
eastwood in like the fast andfurious movies, like there is a
version where they are alreadyat the top and I like that
they're just character actorsright now and if they work out,
they're obviously old, older, uh.
But if they end up working out,like good for them, and if not,
like hey, you don't have to.
If anything, it would be worsefor him.
Like kind of like a john davidwashington who is now always

(38:36):
getting compared to denzelbecause he keeps doing these big
movies like no one's.
No one's comparing these two.
They're just like good for you,buddy.
So I think, I think that mightbe the safe route there, but
with the argument with that islook at jack quaid's career.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
dennis quaid is also both his parents are big movie
stars too and he's leading manin a lot of movies and he's
fantastic.
Granted, some of them are thesame roles.
I would say that's what I wasgoing to say, I think people
like Jack Quaid.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Obviously he would put him on the map and he is
stuck to.
The nerdy capable somehow getsthrough this guy.
But I wouldn't say that he'slike standing on his own in
anything.
No the king was his best shot.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
But he was also played a lot of good villains in
movies.
He was a villain in Scream 6.
He was a villain in what's thatrobot movie that came out
earlier this year oh, companion,I love that you were on that
episode.
But yeah, he's also played goodvillains too.

(39:39):
So I mean, I think he does haveaspects in horror and, like
they said, the comedic nerd whounexpected is a badass.
Um, so I've never had to statewe just saw yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I was genuinely excited tosee him in the movie.
Like, oh shit, fuck, yeah,let's go.
Um.
So jack quaid, I think, is anexception to that rule.
Like tom hanks because I justwatched big not too long ago and
also I don't know if you gotthe same um trailer in your
movie.
They're going to be re-shownapollo 13 in theaters with tom
hanks and he looks so young inthe movie.

(40:01):
And then I just saw big not toolong ago.
Like tom hanks was a big starat a very young age and he's
obviously I would like to seehis kids take on some of the
roles like that too.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
No, that's fair, that's fair.
I just want them to work.
I just want them to like, havefun doing it, and it seems like
in these movies he's he can flexa little bit more and, you know
, be outside the box without thepressure of like.
How was his performance?
Like every time he, he gets abat, but, yeah, no, I, I liked
him, though.
I think he, I, I think he didreally well and, honestly, like

(40:34):
that's the thing I think he didreally well.
It pissed me off in this movie,yeah, versus like the tom hanks,
like lovable characters, evenlike the ones that I know colin
from so far.
Uh, I think this one like,really, really, he got under my
skin, like and I was like I hatethis dude and I I appreciate it
, though to the point you, youhated him so much that the
ending happens with his like andI was like I hate this dude and
I I appreciate it, though tothe point you, you hated him so
much that the ending happenswith his character and he's like

(40:54):
yes, you know, yeah, someonehad the balls to do it.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Um, and there's a lot of other cameos in this movie
too, like, uh, well, alsochristopher nolan, not
christopher nolan, christopherlloyd comes back to play as a
dad.
I thought they were gonna killhim off, like since the first
one.
I like I thought they were, oh,grandpa passed away, or
something like that, but no,this guy was still in there
kicking ass all the uh, all theuh nursing home gals was just

(41:20):
fawning over him.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
The lady with her oxygen tank she had me rolling
yeah, and this is.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
You find out a lot more about his character too in
this movie, because you find outhis dad was also in this.
Well, you kind of put thistogether in the first one, but
his dad was also an assassin whobrought him to the same I'm not
sure what the six flags land iscalled in this movie, but who
brought him the same thing, thesame place for the same reason,
basically to do an assignmentand like for I or I.
Just this place is known forbeing a cover for a lot of legal

(41:51):
activities like trading andstuff like that going on, and he
just ended up in the wrongplace at the wrong time.
He's fucking with the wrong son.
He ends up the son who ends uplike I don't even remember him
hitting him in the arm.
Do you?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, I did I did, cause it was like it was like a.
They almost like slow-moed it,because that I don't know, maybe
they wanted to be a point, butI, I did catch that one so they
end up fucking with the wrongson by breaking his arm, who was
all?

Speaker 1 (42:16):
who happens to be the sheriff.
I went sheriff.
I don't know what he, what hisstatus was, because he was
higher than the sheriff uh, hewas the original big bad until
there was a bigger, big, yeah,yeah same crime lord he was like
the, the, the mayor, like crimeguy yeah who's that's a famous
actor too, if I'm not mistaken.

(42:37):
I've seen him in a handful ofmovies.
Um, not wyatt martin, is it?
I think it's wyatt martin.
Um, his character ends uphaving a complete 360 change,
with him being this big badasslike you get the fuck out of my
town to like.
Please help me fight thesepeople off.

(42:57):
I need it yeah yeah, and I meanthe ending.
I don't want to get too muchinto the detail we already
spoiled a lot but like there's alot of cool action, fighting
scenes, like the one in the boat, like the duck boat, very
badass, very similar to, though,the bus scene, um, and then you
get to the ending where ithappens to be like it's more of

(43:21):
a gimmick, where it's at likeit's more let's find these
creative ways to kill people andwhat's the best way to do that
is have it in this old um, likecarnival kind of thing.
There's a bunch of rides andslides and um games and stuff
like that.
Like, oh, it's the same thingwith the whack-a-mole stuff,
like it's same gimmicks.
Like you, one of the most onesthat made me jump like squeegee

(43:41):
my seat a little more, was whenhe went down the water slide and
, oh, I covered my eyes.
I'm not gonna lie to you.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I hate that, that was probably the biggest one.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
that made me jump.
You have games like that whereyou're really playing with a
setting that you're in.
They could have just made thisan older warehouse or something
like that, but that would havebeen half the time Just shooting
, dodging, shooting, fighting,dodging, losing your gun,
something like that.
There also is a Kill Billmoment in this final ending with
his brother and the swordsfucking badass with the, the

(44:14):
last bullet where he cuts thegun in half and he slices the
guy's head face through.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
That's why you never bring a katana to a sword fight
it's such.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
He had cheesy bad line one-liners in the first
movie too.
Um, I was gonna say the mom yousee the mom at the end of the
pool and sniper.
I thought she was gonna be likehiding in the woods, picking
them one by one I was veryconfused.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I said so let me get this straight.
You thought you didn't knowthat the brother was there, so
you left these kids alone in themiddle of the woods, while you
know you're under attack, to gohopefully help your husband,
who's like miles down the roadright.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Exactly I thought it would have been cooler.
I think she just typed them offbecause you see this movie only
get one shot and she's like 10feet away from the person you
know yeah, it was kind of lessimpressive when you think about
that.
That was, uh, that was veryinteresting and when the that
you know, um, what's his name?
Um hutch is face to face withthe villain at the end.

(45:19):
I mean, I guess she's pissedthat she wants to kill him, but
like it's also like what's thepoint?
Like you just said, you lostall your money, you literally
lost all your men.
Like you have no power anymoreat this point.
Like you have nothing, which isprobably the reason for wanting
to kill her but like you can'tkill this guy and think
everything's going back tonormal.
Like you, you're done.
Like you have no assets anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
All your best got killed.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah.
So like at the end, like whenshe gets killed her other
soldiers, they kill them.
'm like, why, like I?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
that's bothered me.
And don't get me wrong.
Like I said, I I enjoyed thismovie.
That pissed me off because Iwas like what do you mean?
Like she was like kill him.
I was like why didn't you startwith that?
Like what do you think they'vebeen?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
doing this whole time right and like after that she
dies, but I was like I was ayeah, I'm gone though, bro,
right, I'm not getting paid.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
I'm a hired gun.
What do you mean?
Like I'm absolutely, and it'snot like.
It would be one thing if theypresented her to be like this
great leader that people wouldpick up her sword.
That girl's quick.
Hey, we're safe, we're free.
Fellas, yeah, let's go, dude,let's go.
I always think I think we'vehad this conversation in action
movies.
I'm always interested in likeand it's a little bit better for

(46:35):
superhero movies.
But like, let's go, dude, let'sgo.
I think we've had thisconversation in action movies.
I'm always interested in likeand it's a little bit better for
superhero movies.
But if I see a guy, a John Wicktype, who's murdering everybody
, why do I think I'm going to bethe person to stop him?
That part is never really, Iguess strength in numbers when
they're human.
But hell, no, dude, I'd ratherbe the guy that he knocks out.
If I wake up a day later, wooversus the guy who was cut in

(46:56):
half.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
There's no wrong reason.
He could just tap me and I'llpretend I'm knocked out,
honestly.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Throw me off a building.
I'm not getting back up.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah, there was one.
Well, there are movies outthere that make fun of that
simple fact, like iron man 3,when he's about to shoot him,
he's like he puts his gun.
Like honestly, these people areweird.
I'm audrey, anyway, that isfunny when they do that, but I'm
always so in disbelief of howmany henchmen like these people
got.
Like this lady like had like ahundred not even kidding a
hundred men willing to die forher for for probably money, but

(47:29):
like yeah, and if it's moneythat's fine, but then when they
die say that you know like yougotta give me something else and
it's not like she had someoneto take over her spot.
It seemed that we know of, atleast I mean there's.
You know there could be storieslike she had a sister or or
niece or something like that.
Like down the line was likewho's next in line, or something
like that.
So, um, this movie can lead upto sequels.

(47:51):
I can see it being a trilogyand, um, especially with the
wife getting involved, now it'sgoing to become more.
I won't say mr and mrs smiththing, but like they're fighting
together, I should say yeah andthe kids like secrets out.
I kind of wish I wish the sonwould get in this.
Like the cycle keeps going likethis, he pulls the sun into it,
he does kind of, doesn't hekill?
Like strangle that guy to deathor he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
That's.
I think that was him beingbetter, because the henchman was
like please don't kill me,which is like all right.
I think I would have respectedthis movie if they went.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
No one's ever done that.
Like you never see them, likean origin story like that, you
know.
Yeah, um, I kind of like thenext movie.
Like I said, you see the sunand it's hard.
It would be hard to see, ithard to sell.
I could see why they don't wantto do it, but I kind of want to
see that something like thathappen.
Um, the ending see there's abig explosion and the why.

(48:43):
This is the coolest shot in thewhole movie, where they dive in
the water and like there'sexplosions above them.
But I was like you're at akiddie pool, like there's no way
this water's that deep, likethere's explosions above them.
But I was like you're at akiddie pool, like there's no way
this water is that deep, likethere's no way you get fully
under that.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
You I said wait one second, like and this is the
thing, I can't think about thesemovies too much or will agree.
That's how I felt about freakyour friday when I started
getting pissed off at the end,like I in the theater, I turned
to uh, my movie buddy, and wewere both like that is not,
that's not that same pool, likeit's just not.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
No, no, the pool.
It looks like it's 20 feet deep.
Real it's probably like fivefeet at the most Exactly, I'll
buy seven.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
You know, I remember being in six feet when I was a
kid, like I'll buy, but likewhen he drops and I'm like all
right, so he's about five, eight.
You know, I'm like watching himsink.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
I was like yeah, there's no way he drops and then
you see his wife like swimmingpretty far down to go get him.
I was like, oh my god ain't noway this is a kid in park man
for like eight year olds yeahyeah, I mean there's a small
plot holes like that yeah, yeahit's not about that.
The other day, it's it's aboutthe action and stuff like that,
because the plot line is likenothing great.
It's the exact same exact movie.

(49:55):
Um, different director.
Actually the director the firstone was set to come back and do
this one I saw, but he wasalways already doing heads of
state that we did the other day.
Um, oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, so he was.
He was scheduled to come back,which I think I like this one a
little bit better for thedirecting too.
Also, in the first and thefirst movie in the third act it

(50:17):
was in a building and I didn'tlike about it because you see
them send off a bunch of boobytraps and stuff like that.
I was like when the fuck didyou do that this one?
You see that a little bit themsetting up.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I I really like that little uh details attached to
this movie yeah, and actuallyand I'm really critical of booby
traps about 80 of these madesense like the only ones, like,
like you know, the one where heput the gun, like on the slide.
I was like so you're planningon running up?
there like I was like all right,that's a little to me, but the

(50:46):
rest, like with the grenades,like even though it's campy, or
like you know, at one pointsomething takes out two henchmen
and I was like what if therewere three?
Like, but you know, turn thatpart of my brain off.
I think you see that in thefirst one.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
He kills three people with one bullet in the first
one, yeah, yeah.
But that gun on the side of theslide kind of makes sense,
because that's where the spikeswere.
It's like okay here orsomething.
I mean, if you, I do see thatprep, I do like that like idea
that it wasn't just random stuff, like you can tell they really
thought like okay, I'm gonna runhere and do this and stuff like
that.
Um, then you do think thatgrandpa's gonna die in this one

(51:20):
too.
That was a little bit sad, likedamn, that would have been a
way to go out.
But yeah, no, he ends up beingthe hero at the end too, as
always.
Yeah, crazy christopher lloyd,back to the future, baby so just
final decision what did youfeel about bob on kirk as this
kind of character?
Did you buy?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
did you like I was like I for me, I didn't buy it I
, I bought it and you know, likeI, there were moments in this
movie obviously, dude's comingoff a heart attack right, he is
up there in age, so, like therewas, I was just happy to see him
on screen.
There were times where I washe's.
They have to cut away becausehe can't move that way.
Same thing that we were talkingabout Liam Neeson.

(51:56):
But he plays that frustrated,like middle-aged old white dude
so well, like, not even liketrying to be funny.
There was multiple parts in hismovie where I was like that's
my friend's dad, like I can 100%see my buddy's dad being this
exact same way, like the waythat he talks, the way he moves,
his irritation, like that.

(52:16):
He played that really well,damn.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Is your friend, okay.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, no he's good.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
He was another character in the bear that does
really good, like he plays likea wife's friend or something
like that.
But for me I just I couldn'tsee.
I mean, yeah, like I mean Iread like he he got in the best
shape of his life, for I don'tknow about his life, but he got
really good shape for this movie.
Kind of don't believe that.
I feel like we would have seenfootage of him getting in shape
like they were to release aspromo, like him training at

(52:47):
least.
Um, they, they did.
There's multiple of himtraining.
Well, like five or sixmovements.
I would say like, oh my god, itwasn't even training.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
This is now my mission.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I'm gonna get training, going over rehearsals
for the fight scenes, like Iwant to see him in the gym
putting the work.
Oh, you want to see him lifting, lifting weights, because, like
it was weird in the in themovie they go to this water park
and this guy's wearing a longsleeve shirt underneath, like a
shirt.
I was like, if you're gettingthe best for your life, like
once, you want to show that shitoff for the movie?
Tell me.

(53:21):
I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Tell me I'm wrong.
You're just playing factor capwith the prep of this movie,
like nah yeah he's, he's, I justdidn't buy him.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
I guess he does great playing the like the dad, like
being overprotective and stufflike that, but like as far as
tough as to take on a whole armynow.
Now I don't know I.
But also I like the idea ofolder men in these kind of roles
too, because like yeah, it's ayounger kid like these older men
have experience and that's whythey're old, because they live

(53:53):
long enough to to do this, Imean beware of an old man in a
young man's profession it's thesame thing with anime.
Like every single anime, theoldest person is like the most
strong and powerful, like it'shell yeah, it's just kind of
role, like versus like, if thisis like a timothy chamblee kind
of playing this kind of role.
They're doing the same thingwith kevin james.
Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
he has a movie like that's not gonna work for me I
can tell I'm gonna be excited tosee it because I like me some
kevin james, but that's notgonna work.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
There's only reason I see them doing it is because,
like, at one point, I would loveto do something like that in my
life.
Yeah, to look cool on screen.
That has to be the only reason,like they don't think they can
actually make this into theirnew career.
You know, we got james.
He didn't even he was in moreshape for that.
Uh, here comes the boom, orsomething like that.
Here comes the boom.
He was in good shape for that.

(54:37):
This one, he's just like paulblart.
What would you go back?
What would you give nobody toone of the time?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
I'm giving it a solid seven Okay.
I'll go 6.5.
6.5 out of 10.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I did like it better than the first one.
I'll give it that.
And if there was a third one,yeah, I'll go watch it, now that
I'm sucked in this world andnow you kind of establish the
realistic of this kind ofuniverse and this kind of movie.
So I think by the third one Ican definitely put everything
aside and enjoy a little bitmore uh, like I said, I think
that's just exactly uh kind ofwhat you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
That's where I am right now, like I am in.
This isn't a summer blockbuster, but it's like a nice little
august mid-release.
You know, throw some action onscreen, make you creative, give
me some scoobit one-liners I'malways gonna have a good time
I'm gonna predict the third onefor you right now.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Um, the wife obviously is gonna be more
involved now that she'saccepting this kind of world,
the kind of line of work she'sdoing.
She's a real estate agent,right, she's gonna end up
selling a house to somebody thatshe overhears is like a big
part of this crime, lord, orsomething like that like, oh,
this is a perfect place to keeplittle kids that you know.
I can have for something likethat and and she lets him know,
she starts doing her owninvestigating before he gets

(55:53):
involved, like we're gonna seemore of her than him, I think.
And then, uh, once she startsbringing him in, like what are
you doing here?
Like you're like, oh, this,they're gonna have two different
stories to say.
They all both line up to thesame crime, boss, I would say,
and that's what they're gonnafind out.
And then they'll teaming uptogether and then, of course,
the brother, grandfather.
I bet you the brother by thenext time, will have a
girlfriend too.
At that point he's got his ownkids.

(56:13):
I'm predicting it.
I'm calling it out Before we go.
There was one more movie Iwanted to bring up to you I
don't know if you've seen it onMax called Freaky Tales.
Is that the Pedro Pascal one?
Pedro Pascal one dude.
I don't know if it came outthis year or last year.
I don't remember hearinganything about it.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I know that no one saw it in the theater.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
I distinctly remember that that's weird because IMBD
says it came out 2024, but Maxsays it came out 2025.
So I don't know which one camefirst.
I don't remember seeing it intheaters or hearing about it.
I loved it.
It's so underrated.
A friend turned me a goodfriend of mine turned me onto
this movie.
It's incredible.
The best way I can describe her, the best way she described it,
was like it's like scottpilgrim versus the world, mixed

(56:57):
with kill bill, like it's theperfect description for it.
It's I don't know if you knowanything about it it's about
basically one night from thepoint of view of several
different people, and they allconnect in a wild way at the end
okay, I'm, you know what I wasgoing back and forth?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
uh, because I have heard good things, I will
absolutely watch it this weekpager pascal is amazing in it.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
For me, seeing him on screen for the fifth time this
year, he definitely brings adifferent kind of vibe to this
one like, uh, he was yeah, Iwould say out of his characters
a little bit closest to um, thelast of us kind of vibes versus
like fantastic or even thematerialist.
It's a different.
He kills in this role.
Tom hanks makes a very funcameo in this movie.

(57:39):
Oh, um, the stories it's.
It's incredible.
Go watch.
It's set in the 70s and foreach story it's almost filmed in
a different way.
Like the first one, like it'sabout a punk rock kids and it's
filmed kind of like scottpelican versus the world.
Um, peter pascal's a fellow's,almost like a little bit like
narcos, almost um, no differentstyles, different stories, great

(58:02):
acting, great way to end it andI kind of wish more movie.
I would like to see more fromthis director.
I would say I'm sold.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
I'm gonna adding it to the list.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
It's official yeah, um, anything else that you want
to talk about before we getgoing?
What?
What's the movie you want tosuggest tonight?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
um, oh, I just saw a trailer for a weird one, you
know what?
Never mind, we keep talkingabout spider-man.
I'm I want to do this for awhile.
I'm going to go back andrewatch, no Way Home.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
No Way Home.
Okay, I put that on once, maybeevery few months, I would say
yeah, always going to hold up,and it gets me more excited for
the Spider-Man coming out.
You know what?
I'll go leave this one I'll doTaken, he's been on my mind a
lot lately.
The whole trilogy was great.
We'll do an episode.
Maybe we'll go over the wholetrilogy.
We'll start doing that.

(58:52):
Go over older movies.
We mostly do newer ones.
Next episode is Honey Don'tswith a lot of celebrity.
Carissa Evans finally comesback to the big screen after a
while.
I'm excited we might have aguest on too, so we'll look
forward to that.
Have you seen the tiktokcomments and stuff like that?
Sometimes people like it'sfunny to see people get beef in

(59:15):
our comments with each other,like not even with us.
Oh, they were beefing with eachother.
I love that.
Yeah, one of the one of thevideos I posted was like a vlog
style, like where I go to themovies and I always start the
video buying snacks in the atthe dollar store.
Someone commented like uh, youknow, you gotta really support
your local theaters.
That's how they make theirmoney.

(59:35):
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like they get, theyget monthly bills for me that I
pay, and then, like people arefighting like no, like who cares
, like it's a dollar, like theirfault.
They go back and forth.
It's pretty funny to watch,though, but, um, yeah, subscribe
to our tiktok page.
I've been posting a lot ofclips on there.
We can see us talk about it.
Um, anyways, stay tuned.

(59:56):
Next week we'll be saving thescene.
Bye.