Potty Mouth and Proud with Karla Serrato

Karla Serrato joins us to discuss her multifaceted career as an audiobook narrator, actress, and podcast host while sharing candid insights about the entertainment industry and creative life. She opens up about finding her voice through various mediums, from Second City improv to her taboo-breaking podcast adventures.

• Co-host of PottyMouth Poopcast, tackling taboo topics with scientific depth and humor
• Audiobook narration career that started during the pandemic after years of curiosity about the craft
• Second City improv experience since 2017, including performing in equity stage productions
• Finding creative community through comedy and performing arts in Chicago
• The Fifth Element ranks as her all-time favorite film for its storytelling, romance, and sci-fi elements
• Thoughts on representation in media and what drew her to certain actors like Sandra Bullock
• Realistic perspective on pursuing SNL and other high-profile entertainment opportunities
• Practical advice for aspiring actors: get an agent through SAG-AFTRA affiliated channels
• The challenges and rewards of creating authentic content in today's digital landscape

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
excuse me, is anybody sitting here?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
sorry, this is taken sorry, um, you know, oscars have
you seen?
Have you guys watched theoscars?
I have not.
No, I've been dying to talkabout it because, like I said,
I've been sick and and I evenhad a chance to talk about the
Oscars, but I liked it a lot.
It was nothing spectacularhappened, but Conan O'Brien I

(00:30):
wanted to talk about hisperformance because I love Conan
O'Brien.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Yeah, I love him too.
I had a friend that wasobsessed with him, but I don't
really watch awards very often.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I don't know why You'd rather be on an award show
soon.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, very often I don't know why you
rather be on award show soon.
Yeah, yeah, but I do likewatching like afterwards and
like this is what so-and-so woreand this is what so-and-so wore
, and that was a funny part, andcan you believe this?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
so you're more into the highlights part, I guess.
So, yeah, yeah, I think mydream job is honestly to be a
seat filler.
Okay, that that's an actualthing yeah, when people could
get up to use a restroom orsomething like that someone.
They don't want an emptyaudience, so they have someone
come there, sit there until theyget back.
I would love that.
I would be such a fly on thewall no way, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
You had me at seat filler job.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, I don't know how much it pays, but just hang
out with celebrities and stufflike that.
That's, that's very cool.
Um, thank you for tuning in tothis.
He's taken around your host,rob miranda.
I got a very special episodethis week, um, now normally I do
movie reviews, talk aboutactresses, but today I got one
on miss carla serrato.
Thank you for coming on, carla.
I think I might have mentionedyou before on this podcast

(01:39):
because I recapped podfest withmy friend fernando and you were
one of the people we met downthere in podfest.
You were actually on a panel,um, on a comedy panel, with like
eight other comedians on there.
You guys were all talking aboutcomedy and then it seemed like
everyone in the room got it,thought it was a platform to do
five minutes, but you weredefinitely, I would say, the top
two funniest people there,because everyone else was kind

(01:59):
of like dad jokes good, yep,good, yes, good to know, I mean
yeah I've got.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, I've got some definite like uh suggestions for
next year.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I'm excited yeah, well, they had open stand-up
comedy like an open mic thatnight.
There too I wanted to go.
I want it would seeminteresting, but I wanted to go.
But it was a room probably justas small as this and and I
don't know If it was like a bigvenue or like a stage at least,
or I think it was just like afoot higher than everybody else.
I wish it was a little bitdifferent.

(02:31):
But I mentioned, we met atPodFest because you have a
podcast.
You're co-host of Potty MouthPodcast Potty.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Mouth.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Poop Podcast Potty Mouth.
Poop Podcast Potty Mouth.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Podcast was unfortunately taken when we
started our journey, so we'relike, okay, we'll just, we'll
just do this, and you know what?
It ended up being cut.
A good thing, because it kindof describes what our podcast is
about a little bit better.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Uh, it's about poop, yeah, and all things taboo.
I I debated, I'm telling I'll,I'll get to it, but like telling
them poop stories about myself,because that's what you're all
about.
But on top of that podcast host, you're also an award winning
audio narrator, audio booknarrator.
You're an actress, as Imentioned before, and you have a

(03:16):
background in theater.
I want to talk to you a lotabout Second City pretty soon.
But, as I mentioned, you're anactress.
People can see you in stufflike chicago med, chicago fire,
the quarantine files and the2017 movie dissolved the game
truth.
I tried, I did look up liketrailers and stuff like that.
Yeah, it looks awesome, it's an.
It's an indie horror and it isstreaming.
Um, is that your favorite genrehorror?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
it is not I actually I.
I can't watch a lot of itbecause I'll have nightmares.
I'm just a tender little thing.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Is it less scary on set than making the horror
movies?
Absolutely yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
There's nothing scary about it when you're on set.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm a big pussy.
I'm pretty open about that.
I'm a big pussy when it comesto horror movies.
Because of this podcast, I'vebeen forcing myself to watch
more horror movies and I'vebecome a fan.
I don't do paranormal stufflike um, like the annabelle
movies, the conjuring, oh okay,I see what you mean.
Now those stuff, because that'sstuff based on real stuff.
I can't do that that'sdefinitely horrifying.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's exactly why I can't do it.
Oh, this is my sister, by theway.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
We have your sister here as well, like a live
audience.
That might be on the podcast alittle bit, but she's also your
co-host in the poopy podcastpoopy poop, potty mouth podcast.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's a tongue twister it's a potty mouth poop cast.
And you know, can I tell areally quick side story our
first no, our second pod festthat we ever went to, which was
um.
In 2020, 2020, just before theshutdowns, we met one of our
best friends, um madison, whoalways also has a podcast now,
but but anyway, she was tryingto learn our name and she was

(04:46):
like, oh, you do the Putty MouthPoopcast.
What did she say?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
It is a tongue twister.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Putty Mouth Popcast.
It came out of her mouth and itwas so funny.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
We cracked up.
She's from the South, so shehas an accent, so that with the
different words was great PuttyMouth Popcast.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, different words was great.
The pootie mouth podcast, yeah,it was good.
Let's just plug the podcastright now.
Like, uh, it's obviously aboutpoop, but it's not just about
poop, like, because I listenedto a couple episodes years and
the one I like the latest onelistened to was like um, I just
found her the elephant poop one.
You guys also get like sciencefacts about these poops.
It's fascinating.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
We've learned a lot actually about like the science
of like gastrointestinalfunctionings, and some of the
stuff that we've had to delveinto has really taught us.
It's been really educational.
So it's not just likescatological humor.
We do talk about some seriousstuff, because it's about poo
and all things taboo and likethat can be also very subjective

(05:40):
like what's taboo to you,what's taboo to them like poop
wasn't taboo to me and so I usedto have an.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I used to have another podcast called the dolly
parton podcast.
The joke was like we nevertalked about dolly parton, um,
but I told a poop story on there.
Everyone's done it.
I'm just gonna say, likeeveryone's pooped themselves and
I told the story on there andthese my friends were trying to
set me up with this girl at thetime and she heard that story

(06:09):
and she just lost all interest.
So, like I was, like I'veshared too much on some of these
pockets I would have gone intolike a bunch of questions like
where was it?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
what consistency?
Oh no how long did your carsmell like?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
no, it was.
I'll just tell it because I wasdebating on telling a story on
this podcast.
Because, um, it was only likethree or four years ago, like I
was a grown-ass adult in this.
Um, I just got home from work,I ate some mexican food and then
I was gonna take my dog for awalk and it's like a little
under two mile walk.
At the halfway point, the partwhere I'm furthest away from my

(06:48):
house, I get bubble guts.
I was like, oh my God, I getbubble guts.
And I was like, let's hurrythis walk up.
So I'm pulling my dog and he'sone of those dogs that wants to
stop and smell everything, soI'm dragging him.
It's getting worse and worse.
Now I walked him around myneighborhood.
The neighborhood's like brokenup into two sections, like by a

(07:08):
giant creek.
There's a bridge connectingeach side and the bridge is
between two houses and once Igot to that bridge, it hits me.
I froze.
I was like, oh no, it'shappening.
Yeah, exactly, I got goosebumpsand everything it's happening.
It's like there's nothing.
My first instinct after I couldmove was like I gotta take my
pad, like lower my pants.

(07:28):
I was like because there wasbushes, I was on the bridge.
Like right off the bridgethere's two bushes like bushes
and the house on the other sideof the bushes.
I dropped my pants and I'm likegetting in the bush as close as
I can.
Like a lot of the finish arecoming out and my dog's like oh,
where does this smell?
He thinks it's like Party time.
Exactly, he's all on me.
I'm like less than half a blockaway from my house too.

(07:49):
I was so close to making it.
Oh, it feels the worst.
So my dad was home at the timeand I called him.
I need you to come pick up thisdog.
Like is this bad?
I told him the whole situation.
He comes, he picks up the dog.
He tried to get me in the car.
He's like I'm not going to ruinyour car, I'm just going to
walk it out.
I'm just going to walk it out,but like you know this is way
TMI, but like it's like drippingdown my leg at this point and

(08:25):
the worst part about this storyI'm probably on someone's ring
camera, honestly, oh no.
After that I told my family I'mnot working this dog anymore.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Tragic human events yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
That's so kind that they were just like shit happens
.
I thought you were going to saythat they came out with a
toilet paper.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
No, I'm glad they waited until Lisa was gone.
Yeah, but of yeah, but I toldthat story on the podcast and
this girl was like, yeah, I'mgood See, but that's a good
indicator that this was not yourperson.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
If you can't handle my poop stories, goodbye.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, I'm with somebody now who I haven't told
that story to, so by the timeshe'll listen to this, we'll
test it out.
I'll take it early some of this.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
We'll test it out yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
How far deep are you guys in your podcast right now?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
uh, we, we took a really long break, um, and we
got three seasons in, so nowwe're on season four.
Yeah, and I don't know how manyepisodes each sarah's more of
like the about about 13 or 14each season, and then this
season.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
So far we've only done four that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I tried taking a break once, but it's hard to
come back and like regain thefollowing.
It's hard, but you you guys arealways busy like especially you
, carl, like you're all overtown.
I think you just got back fromnew york not too long ago yeah,
I did.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I went to a conference, uh, audio publishers
association so about that.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
How did you get an audiobook?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
uh over the pandemic.
I've always wanted to do it, somy mom used to listen to she
still does listen to like bookson cd and I and I would always
wonder like, how did that persondo that?
like that's a job and I wasalways curious like how they did
that, but I never like lookedit up or tried to figure it out
for myself.
And then I became an actor andI still was interested.
It's just not something that Ilook like really worked hard to

(10:09):
figure out.
Then, during the pandemic, I'mlike, okay, now's the time.
So there just happened to be acourse at a studio, um, an
acting studio that I like to goto.
It was the business ofaudiobooks and I did it over the
pandemic.
It was really I learned some somuch good stuff about just
getting started, but it actuallytook a really long time like

(10:33):
over six months it was.
It was probably close to a yearbefore I actually did anything
with the knowledge that I gained, because getting started is the
hardest part.
We even started like a supportgroup for each other or
accountability group where it'slike, okay, where are you at in
the journey?
And most of us were juststruggling to live our everyday

(10:54):
lives and start.
Most people, even if theystarted, they have stopped since
.
So it's rough because it can'tjust be like a side hustle that
you can't sort of do.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think people think it's a lot easier because, I
mean, I couldn't tell you thelast time I read out loud since
high school, because every oncein a while I read the
descriptions of movies on thispodcast.
People definitely can tell I'mnot a reader.
That is hard in the job itself.
On top of that you've got tomake it sound interesting too.
I've read, or I've heard, acouple of audiobooks on tape.
I'm really big on celebrityautobiographies.

(11:30):
Matthew Perry's book it's agreat book.
The audiobook it's him reading.
He just read it so dry and soboring.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I was like come on, dude.
It's funny.
They say don't, if you author abook, don't narrate it.
That's like the general ruleand like publishers will suggest
that heavily to their authors.
But sometimes they just want todo it and a lot of celebrities
are pretty good performers, sothey'll do a good job typically.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
But you know, yeah, I mean on top of like just
reading all wow, like I said,you gotta make it like.
You gotta sound excited andsound thrilling.
You know it's a lot of it'sacting.
That's what it is and you'rethat's pretty good about your
acting.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
How long you've been acting for uh you know I have
different anniversaries, so I'veI've been acting since I was in
high school, uh, but then Ididn't, and then I had an agent
right out of college, but Ididn't really start working
until about like the last fiveto six years.

(12:28):
So like for the last let's seefive it's about 10 to 15 years
I've been acting like with Ihave an agent and stuff, but
really going hard, maybe thelast seven ish years, yeah was
it a transition from theaterinto acting, or was it vice
versa?
um.
So here it was.

(12:50):
I went to school for it wastheater, a theater-based um
acting degree.
I really my passion is tv andfilm like I would love to just
make movies, and I'd be happy ifthat's all I did yeah um, but
having a theater background isgreat because it helps you be a
lot more, I guess, diverse.
You can step into like filmacting and you can do, uh,

(13:14):
comedy and sketch and stand up alot easier than if you just
train in like film acting,because it's very heavily
technical to do tv and film filmacting.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
So yeah, that's pretty cool.
Uh, and I mentioned second city.
A lot of people don't know whatthat is, but that's a big
improv company to get a foot inthe door.
A lot of celebrities come fromthere, like I have ready, like
tina faye, steve carell, danarkroyd, bill murray, chris
farley and jason sudeikis, justto name a few.
And those are I think thosearen't specifically from chicago

(13:46):
too, because there is one in la, I believe.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, they have they have it out there in, I think,
toronto.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I want to say how long were you out there?
For how long were you doingthat?

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Here in Chicago.
I've only done work at SecondCity here in Chicago.
I started my journey there in2017.
I've loved improv since I canremember.
Since I was doing warm-ups inhigh school, we would do improv
games and in college I had thisI guess I don't know this moment

(14:20):
where I auditioned for the onebig improv troupe and I didn't
get in and they kind of in notso many words, told me that I
sucked.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And so.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I thought that I sucked and I guess I just didn't
have a great audition or itwasn't their type of improviser.
So I just like took that atface value and let that be the
end of that.
And it was years before, and sothen in 20 and that was what I
don't know maybe like 2015, 24,no two, no, early 2000s.

(14:54):
We're in the city of chicago,it's okay, okay, 2015, 24.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, no, early two thousands.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
We're in the city of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
It's okay.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Okay.
So years later I'm like youknow what I haven't done in so
long and I would really like togo back and do improv.
So I go to improv for actors.
They have three levels, busthrough that, I do the
conservatory and and then I getcalls to audition for some of

(15:22):
their their equity stages.
They have three equity stages.
So I auditioned for one oftheir shows.
It was like a Christmas showjust out of the pandemic.
It was one of the first showsthat they were doing back in
when we were like wearing masksand rehearsal and all this stuff
.
So in 2021, I did a show thereum, deck the hallmark.
I was the lead in that Um, andthen I understudied to show best

(15:48):
fricking songs of the secondcity, Um, and I've auditioned
for a bunch of other stuff too,but yeah, that's, that was
that's been my journey with withthem.
I would love to go back andwork.
It's a lot of fun.
Um, it's a good gig.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's good people I thought, like for a quick minute
, about trying to do somethinglike that, like second city is
like, but those, like I justlisted all the actors like those
are heavy hitters and it'sintimidating almost.
But like, like you said, likeit takes one person to say
something, not even negative,just like, eh, it was okay, it
crushed my dream right there.
Now you should stay here, nowyou could be honest.

(16:23):
Is she funny?
Is she good with improv?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
She's one of my favorite people to hang out with
, because it's always justguaranteed at least a giggle
here and there.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
But for sure.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's just so much fun Everything.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
At least a giggle here and there, yeah, yeah, but
for sure it's just your podcast.
Fun everything, I don't know.
Just life is so much morelighter and hilarious, I would
say.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Your guys's podcast is pretty funny too, but I'll
give props to you because yourlaugh on there is infectious.
It is awesome.
Sorry, it is funny, though youmake it more fun and relatable,
I would say it's weird.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I don't think we've ever gotten feedback like from
an person.
Yeah, we get a little comments.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
We get feedback from robots.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Oh, trust me, I'm there.
I wish I get feedback fromrobots, actually, but my sister
is also my biggest supporter too.
She lets me know if I'm funnyor not.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
That's why it's always important to ask, and you
know, they're just going to beruthlessly honest.
Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
That's why I'm like if people don't believe me, they
can just hang out with her.
See, it's true.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
I think one of the one of the most fun parts about
now that I'm thinking about itabout um, doing comedy in
Chicago was when I was doing mylike the education portion.
I would say, uh, at second cityyou meet people that you want to
continue working with and, likeI'm still, I'm still friends
with people that I've just Istarted, you know, just doing

(17:41):
classes with and you'll you canform like groups and do your own
thing and create and it justfeeds your artistic need, like
the juices flow in and it reallyI feel like it helped me
through some really hard times,like to just be meeting up with
people that want to be creativeand collaborate on something and
create something that's cool.

(18:01):
So we like I was a part of a, asketch group.
It was all female sketch groupand we put on shows around the
city and and it was just some ofthe most fun I've ever had in
my life and I'm still friendswith that's cool everybody,
which is really cool I mean, Ifelt the same exact way like at
a pod fest, because there'speople just like us out there.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Like we have their own podcast, some people are
starting out, some people areseasoned and got great advice.
Um, and that came at a perfecttime too, because, like I'm
three years deep in, I'm at thepoint like I'm self-doubting
myself, I don't want to get out,but then you go out there, be
creative with a bunch of people.
It I was like okay, I'm on theright track, I'm doing
everything right.
Everyone else is having thesame problems as me, so I'm
doing something right.
So it was great.
And, uh, there's actuallyanother one coming up here in

(18:45):
chicago soon.
I'm excited because I'm fromnorth indiana.
It's like chicago, I'm like 45minutes away from chicago.
Um, and I want to meet morepeople out here because, like
Chicago is like a lot morecreative than Indiana.
Sorry, no, I'm not sorry at all.
There's, like you know, you metmy friend Fernando.
He's the only other person Iknow in Indiana with a podcast.

(19:05):
So a lot of us is just feedingoff each other like content,
creating stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
You want to tell me you don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Ashley Flowers, oh, but you don't do paranormal, oh
yeah, that's the only reason Iknow it sounds super familiar,
though it's like people are usedto hearing my dog in the
background anyway, so it's okayso ashley flowers and oh my gosh
, I am so blanking on herco-host.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Uh, they, they're um.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
They have the um crime junkie podcast oh duh, but
those they're like, they'relike indian towards more towards
indianapolis, I would say yeah,yeah, okay, so that's not super
north.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
But yeah, and they have what like Audio Chuck now
and a bunch of differentpodcasts.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Yeah, they're like one of the biggest podcasters in
America right now.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I listen to a lot of the spinoffs.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
See the thing with crime junkies, like for me, like
I like to listen to podcasts inthe car.
If I listen to it in the car,if I listen to on the way to
work, and I'll stop it, I'llforget everything that happens.
I was like what the hell, whatare they talking about?
I forgot about this guy.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
And yeah, um, another big thing that you're into is,
uh, comedy, because you hosted acouple santa comedy events too,
right uh, I hosted back when Iwas doing the education and I
met people and they were likeokay, so we've got this show we
want to put on for likevalentine's day or something,
and I would host that um, that'svery cool itself because that's
like a little bit of comedywork too.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
You got to be funny between each guest for so.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
So usually it's um, if it's going to be stand-up or
some sort of variety, you dohave your host that comes out
and kind of does their a fewlike a, like a type five kind of
loosey goosey and also hostsand, just you know, improvises
and does crowd work.
But I haven't done that becauseI don't have a type five, I
don't have, I don't have jokesyeah literally I can do, I can

(20:48):
talk to people crowd work yeahand I'm in that, but that's like
so stand up.
People have told me I should dostand up, but it kind of
terrifies me because, first ofall, I don't.
I don't think I'm a very goodwriter.
I will write and I have writtenand taking courses on comedy
writing, but I feel like myjokes are no good.
So I'm like I also feel likethere's just so much work that

(21:09):
has to go into it extra nowwhere it's like, will I get
canceled?
How many apps do I give um?
Yeah about whether or not Idon't yeah, because it's it's.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Some people come out there like they don't like.
Shane gillis is one of myfavorite comedians and he's just
, he could almost say anythingversus if someone else were to
say the same like jokes theyprobably would get canceled.
It's just like the type of vibeyou bring out and, like you
said, it's hard deciding becauseI'm sure that limits.
That limits you top of whatwork you would get to in the
future.
I thought about stand-up forlike five minutes too and I did

(21:41):
write like a joke and I wasmidway.
I told my friends this joke.
Midway through it Someone comesin who didn't see like, oh,
this is my stand-up routine.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
I was like what is he ?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
doing?
I was like oh gosh, I guessit's not that funny.
Yeah, what is he doing?
I was like oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I guess it's not that funny, yeah, I think with
standup, you have to, you reallydo have to be a very like
specific kind of person, Um,with, and it's.
It's interesting because mostcomedians I know we're all very
highly traumatized folk,typically neuro, neuro, diverse,
Um, I'm very much generalizingbut like, I feel like that's

(22:20):
part of why we're up there isbecause we need this outlet.
But, um, I don't know, I thinkthat it takes a very special
kind of person.
That can you know.
You have to be okay with peoplenot liking your jokes.
You're gonna bomb at some pointmultiple times probably.
I feel like I don't know if Iwant to do that.

(22:40):
I'd rather take somebody else'swords and make them come alive
would you write for somebody?
I totally would like I'veactually thought about.
It'd be cool if to to be awriter on a show.
Again, I'm not super confidentwith my writing.
I feel like I have good ideas,but transforming them into like
a script.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, because you got to make it seem natural and
real.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
So that's where it starts to break down for me.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Do you have a dream show that you'd like to write
for oh man?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
No.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
No.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
No, but I really like everything that Mindy Kaling
does.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
She's great.
Oh my gosh.
I watch the Office all the time.
It's my comfort show.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I just love everything she's coming back
with a show I think right.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Done.
Yes, I can't remember what thename is.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I know she had the Mindy Project.
I don't know if it was a rebootof that or something completely
different.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
It never.
That was another reallyhilarious show, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
She's also just a fun personality to follow too, like
her and BJ Novak.
They're still friends and stufflike that.
They're fun.
Snl is pretty big improv.
Do you think you would like todo that one day?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
I would love to do that.
Yeah, I don't want that to belike my one.
Oh my gosh, beacon, I willaccomplish this or die, like if
I had the opportunity toaudition for them and they like
me or whatever.
That would be really cool.
But it's also really tough, atough life and especially if you

(24:06):
have, like, a family, it wouldbe really hard, like totally
worth it, I'm sure but I thinkeven like Jimmy, jimmy Fallon
and Stephen Colbert have liketalked about oh yeah, I've heard
about it yeah yeah, on top ofthat, I don't even think they
get that much money.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I think, like they came out with like how much they
make and it's like barelyenough for their apartment out
there in New York.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, they get a lot of their deal like money from
like doing ads and stuff likethat On the movies they start
doing those which I wouldn'tshake a finger at.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
I don't know if that's the right saying.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I've never heard that , but yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I wouldn't shake a stick at it.
Is that it?
I don't know.
We're really bad with quotes,it's okay.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Proverbs Metaphors.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
No, it's okay.
Metaphors no proverbs.
English proverbs yeah, proverbs, I think it's just english
we're not good at anymore.
Um, now we're based out here inchicago.
Have you thought aboutrelocating to like la or new
york, even?

Speaker 3 (25:10):
every dang day yeah uh, when I I wanted to move to
la right out of high school inhindsight I'm glad I didn't,
because I would have gotteneaten alive, um.
But now I feel like, especiallysince I'm, since I'm a mom, I
feel like I'm I'm happy to havelike a home base and chicago has

(25:31):
grown to be such a great hubfor like an artistic hub.
It has always been like rich intheater yeah but now it has
really great film scene like alot of indies and the tv shows
are being done here.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I mean it's on the dark night here, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
So we've got a lot, plenty going on here to like
keep me busy, but also I can goanywhere and now that most
things are virtual, like all myauditions are virtual, like most
callbacks are.
But yeah, I've always dreamt ofliving in California.
I like the weather.
I'm like I want a piece out ofthe Chicago winter.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Oh yeah, Yesterday it was like 75 and today it's like
snowing.
Yeah, it's a blizzard outside.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
So I'd be okay with being done with that and living
that life for a little while,see what it's like and take my
chances and stuff.
But it would be challenging.
It's a big commitment, yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, but Chicago has a lot going on.
I would say it's definitely thetop three cities of all of
America.
I mean like yeah, the weather'snice in other places, but like
we have everything you need here.
Like I weather's nice in otherplaces, but, like, we have
everything you need here, like.
So, there's movies, there'sshows, years.
There's beaches, beaches,terrible beaches, but they're
there, they're there.
We have, like chicago teams andum, everything out here.
You know, we don't got to worryabout fires or earthquakes or
anything like that that'sanother real big plus.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm like, if I feel the earth move under my feet, I
feel like I would.
I would never be the same.
I would never be the same.
I will never be the sameBecause I've never experienced
one.
So it's like, yeah, have you.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's pretty scary.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
There was one that happened somewhere in Illinois.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, yeah, it was in Chicago.
What when?

Speaker 3 (27:07):
the Northwest suburbs .

Speaker 1 (27:08):
The point is that I remember it.
It was a very wonky feeling.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Do you remember that big earthquake I think it was
last year or the year before innew york?
I seen that tiktok of a girlwho said she's like I'm gonna
start exercising and the secondshe started doing jump ropes the
earthquake.
I was like that would, I wouldjust yeah have you tried getting

(27:35):
like um, are they on tiktokconsistently, like making skits
or anything like that?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
no, I have, uh, thought about it.
I I don't know why I'm like.
I feel like one more socialmedia that I have to pay
attention to might break mybrain, but I do know that that's
a great way to like get more ofa following so tiktok go ahead.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
We almost did because I remember Carla's Corner.
We almost did that because Ihad told her before TM, by the
way, Like you're funny.
Like people, even if you're notlike obviously funny, but
there's a quality about you thatpeople are going to want to
rewatch and stuff and who knows,that could lead to an audition
of something like that oh yeah,we an audition of something like
that.
Oh yeah, we were close for herto do it, but then, yeah, it was

(28:18):
too much.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Who was it?
Someone just came out and saidit was a famous director too.
They're starting to go outafter more people who are famous
on the internet because theyhave a following and stuff like
that.
Who was that?
I can't remember who it was.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
I think I know what you mean.
Yeah, it's kind of a thing nowin theater too, like they will,
no one will.
Some places may or may not saythis out loud or admit it.
But yeah, if you have afollowing it's that doesn't hurt
it definitely helps.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
It definitely helps your chances.
I would say yep and then somepeople in the movies.
I was how did you end up on thescreen?
You know, yeah, yeah, tiktok isdefinitely hard because you got
to be on it like three or fourtimes a day.
That's what I hear and I don'tknow if I want that life.
It's a big commitment and yousee some stuff like someone

(29:12):
tripping and falling get likemillions of views, but I put in
time and effort to write a skit.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
And it does like 100 views.
I was like, come on, yeah, yeah, I've thought about doing that.
I even told my agent, but theykind of were like you have to be
really careful because youmight especially when I think
about this often with ourpodcast, because we will say we,
you know it's potty mouth andwe will drop all kinds of bombs
on there.
But I feel like I'm constantlylike just tracking, okay, like
what did I?
Did I mention any like brandsor insurance companies, or

(29:40):
because it's happened wherepeople lose jobs because of the
content that they have out onthe social media.
So my agent's like just be verycareful if you're going to want
to do something like that, causeI'm like I have so many ideas
and I feel like because of howslow work can be sometimes like
there will be pockets of timewhere, like, auditions are
really slow and nobody's reallydoing much.

(30:02):
It's like, okay, so then createyour own stuff.
But I'm like, yeah, I have allthese ideas.
I would love to just like putit on TikTok or whatever.
So, yeah, that was like thesuggestion that was given and
I'm like you know what that'sfine Works with my I can't be up
there three, four times a dayanyway with my lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, I mean the thing about, also another thing
about, tiktok.
It's a lot of competition outthere too and it makes it harder
for anyone to break out because, yeah, I can make a joke and
someone can make the same exactjoke and they get like big clout
from it.
So I mean it is tough to getout there too.
Um, I don't want to go into themovie because this is a movies

(30:41):
podcast too.
What are some of your favoritemovies?
Oh boy, this is a big hardquestion.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
So my favorite movie of all time is the fifth element
.
Oh okay, but oh my god, thedirection.
Oh my god, look, oh my god,look I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
I'm real brit chelsea clinton no, it's m night and I
love.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know what's funny ?
Because I I recently found outthat they um directed another
movie that I really like.
Let's see luke bessen bessen,really Really.
That was a director Hmm, yeah,it's a French filmmaker, luc

(31:21):
Paul Maurice Besson.
Yeah, and they also directedLeon the Professional.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, that's another good movie.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I never heard of that one Interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
It's really good.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Interesting.
I gotta watch that.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Not paranormal you'll like it, right?
Yeah, so it's uh with bruce,bruce willis and mila jovovich,
that's how you say it um, italso has what's his name chris
tucker chris tucker and um, theother one, the english man, the
irish or the scottman, what'shis name?

(31:56):
Oh my God, I'm terrible at this.
It's your favorite one, maybeit's not.
You know what I watch it.
I'm not the like most people.
When they watch a movie they'lllike go in and look at all the
stats and who it is.
I don't, I'm just like wow, thatwas great.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I mean, I just saw a video yesterday.
This guy prefers, like hewished, trailers didn't exist.
You know, I agree with that toan extent, but I could see why,
because nothing's worse thanwhen you go to the movies and
all the best scenes are in thetrailers.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yes, they'll do that now, or the way that they edit
the trailer.
It makes it seem like a totallydifferent movie.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Like the pacing.
It's just like.
This is what it's going to belike.
No, it used to be like that andit's Gary Oldman I love Gary
Oldman.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Oh, that guy.
I was thinking of a Scottishguy in the movie.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
That's what I would also say.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
No, he's like that's Austin Powers with that mask on.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
No, he's English.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
But I love him.
I mean, I basically have athing for everybody in this
movie.
It's just such goodstorytelling.
There's constantly a tickingclock, there's romance, there's
action, there's sci-fi and Idon't know.
There's just something about itthat really sparks my

(33:17):
imagination.
So that's my favorite movie ofall time.
Have you seen it?

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I haven't seen it in years but I remember it being a
big part of my childhood.
Yeah, it was a good movie.
I'm not huge huge into sci-fi.
I like, feel good.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I think one of my top three movies of all time is the
movie Chef with Jon FavreauLove it.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
That's my top three movies all the time is the movie
chef with john favreau love it.
That's my top three movies ofall time.
I'm a sucker for anything forlike a dad and son relationship,
so that's probably why I have agood relationship with my dad
too.
Uh, you would think I'mtraumatized.
Uh, yeah, actually there's alot of sophia robert downey jr's
in there for a second Jaleb.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Muzamo, and I had a dream about him two nights ago.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
We were friends, I remember I'm sorry Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I was going to say I remember when this came out and
I did want to see it because thetrailers looked good, it's fun
and it's great music in theretoo.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I just didn't end up seeing it, and you definitely I
follow these creative after thisone, because it's a lot about
cooking too.
I mean, I definitely want to belike more try new recipes and
stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
It is pretty cool I like movies that have uh cooking
in it.
Uh, I like magical realism likeI love it.
So when it's in a in a movie ora show or play, I'm all about
it.
I will eat that shit up.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Excuse me for the for the you're good the lane for
people who don't know.
I know, but you know.
Maybe others don't know.
What is a magical realism?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
uh, it don't know what is a magical realism?
It's basically what it soundslike, so it's taking a moment
that might be realistic butinjecting some magic into it.
So, for example, in Como, aguapara Chocolate like Water for
Chocolate.
They will have scenes wheresomebody's cooking and they're
so sad and they cry and thetears go.

(34:56):
Where somebody's cooking andthey're so sad and they cry and
the tears go into the batter orwhatever they're making.
So they make a cake and at thewedding, when everyone's having
the cake, everyone starts to cry.
Spoiler alert.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I didn't see that movie, but I think they did a
parody of that on Family Guy, Ithink it's so potent.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
So the fact that people are making a cake and
eating it and it's a wedding,nothing supernatural or sci-fi
is happening.
This is realistic.
But the part that's magical ornot realistic is the part where
absolutely everybody's cryingbecause they feel the sadness
and the pain from the tears thatwere injected into this cake.
Is it a sad movie?
It sounds kind of sad.
I mean, yeah, it could be alittle sad Sometimes.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
I want that, though Sometimes tears that were
injected into this cake.
Is it a sad?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
movie.
It sounds kind of sad it.
I mean it's a yeah, it's, itcould be a little sometimes I
want that, though sometimes Iwant to cry yeah it's got that
like emotional tugging it'sabout the.
You know it's part of, you know,part of the human experience
and it's a story of these, thesefamilies.
Um, I think selma hayek made ashow like a limited series and I
have yet to see it, because Igot so excited when I saw that

(35:57):
she was doing this, but I neveractually ended up seeing it.
I miss so much because it's sohard to keep track to keep up,
rather, with all the movies thatdo come out there's a ton yeah
so many good tv shows.
They're just getting likechurned out and I'm also like I
love this.
I don't have time for all this.
But also, if you're gonna makea show, can you like cast me in

(36:17):
one, because there's so many, Ifeel like there's room well,
like there's room now.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Have you tried getting into the bear here in
chicago?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I've had some auditions.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I have not been cast in the bear that's such a good
show too, I know it's so goodshe keeps telling me and it's on
my list, but max audition ohreally yeah, he what for?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
yeah, so he's, he's also that's like a show, like
the cast is breaking off fromthat show too and doing big,
huge things right now.
Um, you talk about like magicalrealism one of my favorite ones
too also.
It's not really magic in there,but, um, the secret life of
walter middy with ben stiller.
That's a really good, feel goodkind of movie, has a bunch of
quotes in there and everythingthat I follow every day.

(36:57):
There's a different side of himtoo.
He directed it too.
I'm a big fan of when actorsBen Stiller, when actors turn
and direct movies as well, tooWell, now he's directing
Severance.
Yeah, he created it.
I don't know if he created it,but he directed most, if not all
, of first season and season two, which I haven't started season

(37:18):
two yet, but it's a good show.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
I feel like Adam Sandler has started doing that
now in his older years, wherehe's directing and starring in
stuff that's a lot more serious.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I feel like he's at a point in his career where he
can take chances like that too.
Are you guys excited for theHappy Gilmore 2?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
too, I never saw the first one, oh my gosh.
Okay, so robert's head justexplained that's such a good
movie because I don't want to.
There's so many movies like,for example, um, the one with
the tower nakatomi tower heistoh yeah, die hard, die hard.
I haven't that.
I haven't seen Ghostbusters.

(37:57):
There's so many movies that Ihaven't seen, just because we
grew up in a very Mexicanhousehold so it's not like they
partook in those kinds of things.
There's a lot that I want towatch, but I haven't.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
It's okay, I'm the same way too.
I haven't seen a lot ofclassics, yeah classics, missing
a lot of classics.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
It's a classic void.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
What's that?
One with Denzel Not Die Hard?

Speaker 3 (38:21):
The other one, pulp Fiction.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Sure.
The one where he gives a MelGibson and yeah, we use the
speech like yeah, yeah, yeah, Ihaven't seen that one Small
stuff like that, stuff like that.
I haven't Like Godfathers, Ihaven't seen those, yeah same.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Ooh, I have to know them.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, yeah exactly exactly Every night, three
movies.
It's hard, like you said,there's so many shows right now
too, because there's going to bean episode coming up pretty
soon on the podcast where I talkabout TV shows and and once
you're like once the show'ssuccessful.
Already it's already had likethree, four seasons behind it
and now I'm just like I got tolike catch up and most of the
good shows are like an hour pluslong, like Yellowstone.

(38:57):
I started watching that.
The first episode's almost twohours.
I was like this is a damn movie.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Whoa With.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Kevin Costner.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, I haven't seen that my parents are.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Okay it's gonna be by cowboys, like what's that gonna
be into that, but it's, if youlike, sons of anarchy and um,
empire it's.
It's similar to those, likeit's a bunch of family drama and
stuff that comes out at the end.
I'm also on watching landmanright now.
It's kind of similar with billybob thornton, who I love, yeah
that's great.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Bad santa, that's kind of one of my favorite bad,
samas are big I still.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I haven't seen that those are definitely early 2000s
humor, where you can get awaywith a lot of stuff there was.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
It was just after that we're just like yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
And then they made bad santa 2 was like okay, this
kind of cut to close right yeah,I think they're like, let's
capitalize on the little bit ofa I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Can I ask you a question?
Sure okay, I always like totalk to movie reviewing people
about water world that's been onthose podcasts with kevin
costner oh yeah, I mean I missedit.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
I'm sorry you're gonna tell me you haven't
listened to all like 200episodes of my podcast.
Okay, well then, maybe it'slike that movie if I were to
watch it at the time came out Iwas like this is probably the
best movie in the world.
But now now, as an adult andwith all the like, I looked up a
lot of the behind-the-scenesstuff too.
It was fascinating how theymade it Like they were legit on
the water and all the sets werepractical.

(40:21):
That girl, the little girl inthere, she's the girl from.
She was in.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Forever Andre.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Napoleon, she's Napoleon Dynamite.
That's all I know.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Karina.
Karina, she was in a lot ofstuff when she was little.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And that one is kind of like.
I was kind of weird, like.
So the storyline, like the lovescenes were weird in that one,
the action, the fighting.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Like I said at the time, I'm sure it was awesome
but I love that movie stillCause I watched it when it's
when it recently came out andlater and later and I still
loved it.
I kind of love the story.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
That's why I'm like what am I missing?
Like okay, so I can sit backand be.
Like okay, I can see why peopleare like this is terrible.
I can see that, but it's alsocrazily.
I love it.
I don't know why?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Well, and also a time like I forget, when it was made
like early 90s, 80s.
I remember my review.
I can see the director's visionin there.
They just didn't have thetechnical advances.
It wanted to be like what'sthat one with Anna Taylor-Joy
that just came out?
Chris Hemsworth, cautionaryTale no, no, no, no, no.
Something About Tomorrow?
No, no, no.
Mel Gibson has the originalmovies About the Wastel.

(41:39):
Something about tomorrow?
No, no.
The mill gibson has theoriginal movies about the
wastelands.
It just came out like last year.
Uh, I don't know, joy stars init.
It's like a prequel.
Max fury, max max.
It kind of reminds me of that.
But like, like I said, it wasjust trapped in its own time,
like it didn't have the liketechnology we have today.
Otherwise than that it wouldhave been amazing, I think.

(41:59):
And the thing that I saw, kevinconcert put a lot of his own
money in that movie.
He does that for several moviesand that to me is like okay, if
the studio doesn't believe init, I like I don't know how much
I'm gonna believe in it,because he just did the same
thing with, um, the westernsthat came out like a year or two
ago was gonna be part one, parttwo, part one is almost three
hours long, if not three hourslong, and it flops so hard like

(42:20):
I don't even think they releasedpart two.
And uh, he put a lot of his ownmoney in that too.
Like it's like to me.
Like, come on, if it's hard, ifyou describe up to this money
like it's probably not worthmaking oh man, yeah, I feel like
.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I feel like kevin costner runs into that a lot and
like, because the postmandidn't do that well, but I loved
it I loved the story.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
I loved like this, how slow it was for some reason.
Usually I don't like that inmovies.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
My favorite kevin costner movie is probably
mcfarland mcfarland town that'sa hispanic movie too.
Like he's like it's a truestory like he he plays this
coach who gets fired from afootball coach high school
football coach who gets fired.
He moves into this poor mexicantown and he puts together track
meet team or trackcross-country team and he ends
up winning state.
It's a.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
It's a very feel-good movie too especially for
hispanics, like, yeah, that'sinteresting.
It's probably because if I seeit's like a mostly about sports,
I'm kind of not into it.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh no, you definitely got to watch this.
It's on Disney Plus right nowbecause it's a Disney movie.
What's it called again,mcfarlandtown?

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yes, take this down with me.
Hook is another one of myfavorite movies.
Okay, so it's the fifth element.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
With Robin Williams.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yeah, Hook.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Okay, I want to know what these faces are.
I know I remember seeing part.
I don't think I watched itfully through.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
So hook is up there and, uh, the three amigos it's
classic.
Oh my god, I love that answer Imean a bunch of like disney
movies, of course but, whatwould you say?
Am I missing to wong fu?
Thanks for everything.
Julie newmar that's up thereand I think because I, because
I'm like there's five, I havelike five favorite movies and I
was able to.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Are you guys on Letterboxd?
I didn't know that for a while.
I've heard of that.
It's like Facebook for moviereviews.
Yeah, you can list your topfour on there too.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I've been told I should get on that.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I'm sure it's somewhere in my notes.
A comedy I never knew about wasEddie Murphy and Richard Pryor.
I just watched it the firsttime the other day Harlem Nights
.
I don't know if Eddie Murphydirected that.
I said Eddie Murphy film so Iwas like okay it could be
produced.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Eddie Murphy does all kinds now too, or always has.
Have you seen Bowfinger?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
no, you should see it .
Ryan Snow too, or always hashave you seen Bowfinger.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
No, bowfinger, bowfinger.
You should see it because it'sabout filmmaking and it's so
funny.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
It's really funny.
It's one of those ensemble castmovies, so there's a lot of
Heather Grahams in it.
Robin, no, what's that ladywith the tooth?

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, steve Martin and uh lots of people so you can
have like movies about makingmovies.
Seth Rogen just had a new showthat just dropped called the
Studio I believe I think it's anApple when it's like a parody
of like movies getting movies,and I don't know if he plays an
agent or some studio executive.
That is kind of raisingcontroversy right now.

(45:13):
It's like okay, you're sheddinga bad light on stuff like that
and he's like no, this is howthe shit is, because I'm sure
even you, carla, you see a lotof stuff that moviegoers like me
don't even realize how theprocess works.
To make an hour and a half movie, you've got to go through so
many different stages.
You've got to find funding,you've got to find like an hour
and a half movie, you gotta gothrough so many different stages
.
You gotta find funny, you gottafind casting, you gotta do

(45:34):
shoots, you gotta do reshoots,you gotta do promoting and stuff
like that.
I've heard good, I've seengreat movies where if I don't go
to the movies every single week, I wouldn't have known about it
.
You know, because like theydon't do any marketing or
something like that, or viceversa, like they do great
marketing for it, for just anokay movie yeah, no, yeah
there's.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
There's so much that goes into it and now there's so
many people just making theirown because it's so whack out
there with with funding andwho's putting what money where.
So there's just a lack ofpeople willing to take the risk,
and I think that's a big reasonwhy people are moving towards

(46:10):
AI and it's and that's actuallyit's a big controversy too.
It's like they're about they'remaking a film that's entirely
AI right now and they're likewell, would you watch it?
And I think they're trying tosee what people are like.
What's going to ruffle feathers?
Because I feel like the answerwould be no, absolutely not.
Um, of course I'd be curious,but I'm like I can live without

(46:37):
that.
Yeah, rather literally alwayssee actual humans, and I know
that like we use cgi?

Speaker 2 (46:40):
yeah, but what's somebody doing?

Speaker 3 (46:41):
cgi, though, you know because then what happens when
like we these?
Because then it's like whathappens to celebrity?
Where does that go?
It doesn't belong to the person, they don't exist.
So who are you actuallyfollowing and looking up to and
giving?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
your yeah, yeah it's.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
It just opens up all these like I feel like
existential things where it'slike we, I feel like it's it.
It contributes to thedisconnection of our humanity
this is a busy quarter, um kindof forget about that, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Um, I think about the lizard, yeah, yeah, so one of
the things that people don'twell, a couple of reasons why
people don't like AI one is takeaway from jobs, from actual
people, and two, like like youmentioned, like you're going to
replace, you can't reallyreplace all the heartfelt

(47:41):
moments in movies with acomputer Like, um, it just
doesn't seem to work.
I reviewed a movie just likelast month called hard eyes,
that horror movie.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I don.
It's called hard eyes, thathorror movie.
I don't know if you guysremember that it's a serial
killer that movie sucks so bad Ithought ai wrote that it sucked
.
I read in an audiobook whereI'm like this this is straight
up ai, and nobody read throughthe whole thing because I'm, I'm
reading the whole thing and Ican tell you that was not a
human that wrote, that sent thatsame sentence a few times and
that didn't make sense.
And that doesn't make sense.
I'm like there's no way.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
The big thing is chat GBT.
I use chat GBT a lot.
It's scary what it can do.
I typed in can you make me ascript for an Instagram video of
me going to the barbershop?
It'll tell you pan over theoutside of the shop shop, zoom
in on the clippers and somethinglike that.
It's like it tells me step bystep on what to do.

(48:35):
It's like, damn, this kind ofscary what it could do yeah,
yeah, so I don't know it's haveyou gone out and flat out just
tried writing anything for likeeither yourself or like like a
movie or short script oranything like that writing?

Speaker 3 (48:51):
yeah, yeah, I took.
I've been wanting to do aone-person show for a while now
and the only action I've takenis I went to a class that would
help me with like characters andstarting to write it.
So I put something together andI have a very rough draft, but
I haven't revisited it in, likeprobably pushing a year at this

(49:17):
point.
But yeah, I do, I do, I dowrite.
It's just like I said, I'm notvery confident in it.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, I'm the same.
I tried writing a short storyonce and I wrote half of it and
then I went back like a yearlater.
I was like this is kind of ass.
You get a different mindset.
I was like I probably wouldn'tread this myself yeah, and I
mean a lot of.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
It also has to do with am I alone in this?
Like the thought that keepscoming through my head is who?
Who's gonna relate to this?
Like nobody, like I feel likethe experience is just mine, but
I've learned through, I mean,just everything that I've done
creatively.
Chances are no, chances are.
You're not alone and there's alot of just fear of being

(50:00):
misunderstood that will.
That will hold me, hold me backa lot of crime a lot of crime,
a lot of crime and emergenciesyeah, I just had um, that's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
I just had like a like someone I met from PopFest.
Actually she has a mentalhealth podcast, justine I can't
remember her last name off thetop of my head, but she was on
my podcast.
We talked about mental healthand that was the biggest thing,
Like when I started, becausethis podcast was born out of
mental health.
Like I was going throughdepression and I need something
put my energy and focus on too,so I did this um, and then I

(50:34):
started doing my own research,like uh, like reading books and
like therapy, like podcasts andstuff like that and, like you
said, like you realized you werenot alone in your experiences.
Like there's someone else,whether you don't know them or
not, are going through the samething and it's crazy like how in
your own head you get and.
But once you get out there andlike start talking to people and
opening up what comes out of it, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
I think that's why it's so important to be as open
and communicative as possible,because that's what people know.
Otherwise it's it's easier tocreate separation when you quiet
people down like I'm sure thatthat's that's.
I think that's one of theimportant parts of our um, of
our podcast, is to get thattaboo out, because then you are

(51:20):
putting it out there for peopleto realize that they're not
alone, because, for example,like the mental health stuff,
like a lot of people like,especially in families, like oh,
don't tell anyone that you knowany of this, because we don't
want that scrutiny or something.
But then when you do open upyou realize you're not alone,
someone else is feeling that,and then you can help each other
and community and all of thatyou have like a favorite mental

(51:42):
health movie.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Silver lining playbook's a great one of mine
what's it?
What did you?
Silver linings playbook with umbrad, jennifer Lawrence.
Yeah, I didn't Little MissSunshine?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
I didn't see that I'm trying to think because I feel
like.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I'm putting you on the spot, that's all.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
I feel like it definitely has to be.
Yeah, me too the thing I guess.
No, I can't think of anything.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
It's okay, I put you on the spot.
That's one of the biggestthings.
When people ask me whoa youlike watching movies, what are
your favorite movies?
I don't know, I don't have ananswer for that.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
I just follow my podcast, the other thing, though
, is that I feel like since Ifeel like most movies, I know
this is going to sound so blah,blah, I don't know, but I feel
like most movies, I know this isgoing to sound so I don't know,
but I feel like they all are,at least to me, because it's
somebody like the conflict thatyou put forth always has to do

(52:48):
with somebody's struggle or achallenge, and it's like well,
how, how do people deal withlife?
How do you deal with the tinybits of grief that happen every
day, whether it's like oh, thatdidn't go the way I wanted it,
my life didn't pan out how Ithought, and I just like flushed
20 years down the drain.
Doing this, I feel like everystory is about mental health in

(53:13):
a way.
Yeah and yeah, and just like how, yeah, how are you coping with
it?
Yeah, Do you do it by yourself?
Do you do you get help?
How long does it take you toseek out assistance?
Because yeah, and most stories,I feel what makes them good is
when you at the foundation of itall.
It's about love and it, it itgoes across like theater too.

(53:39):
When stories are, you might notbe able like, oh, that's a love
story, but it's about love inwhatever, in whatever way.
So like just like theall-encompassing theme is about
love and that's how I feel aboutmental, mental health and
movies and how like that's whatwe get to watch is.
How did how?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
yeah, it's interesting to hear like
directors and writers theirtheir theories behind the movies
too, because, like, sometimesI'll watch a movie before I
watch I'll watch an interviewwith like the director first and
then like hear their vision ofit and going in there's like
okay, I'm glad I heard thatbecause, like I I okay, maybe
this shot makes a little bitmore sense now because it's
really capturing this father andson's like relationship or

(54:23):
something like that.
You know, like it's no one'sgoing in this industry wanting
to make a bad movie, wanting tomake a bad script.
You know, everyone has theirown interpretation and, yeah,
sometimes it doesn't come outreally good, but I always try to
remember that, like in the backof my head, like, okay, this is
this person's best work.
You know, and so you can tell,totally tell them like studio
gets their influence on theretoo, and they just try to make
it more about the algorithmversus their actual story.

(54:45):
And um, the last five minutesof the podcast a little quick.
I want to talk about some ofyour favorite directors, though,
and directors and actors.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Okay, well, remember how I told you that I watch
movies and I just walk away Likethat was great.
But actors.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I mean, you do have some favorite actors.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I do, oh, I do.
Well, I guess Gary Oldman isone of them.
I think, he's so diverse andincredibly talented.
It's just everything he does isgenuine um.
I don't know where you can tellwhen it comes from somewhere

(55:24):
like just aligned and honest,and nothing holds him back, so
so I really like him.
There are some women that Ireally enjoy.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
The Handmaid's Tale lady.
You've always thought she was areally good actress.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Which one?
The one from the Advilcommercial.
Oh God, forget her name.
Yeah, she's very good.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Successful actress.
I know from the Advilcommercial.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
No, it was Excedrin, it was an Excedrin commercial
and I think that's likeliterally what like propelled
her career.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
It's like Nicole Kidman right now doing those AMC
trailers, things.
John Leguizamo was another he'sgreat, I've been wanting to go
watch and watch.
That Was it the past.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
I wanted to rewatch that pretty soon.
I saw that and actually it gaveme a little bit of a headache.
I was like what is happening?
Um, send my.
Hayek is somebody that I alwayslooked up to and I was like
awesome she was great growing upwatching because I thought she
was a great actress.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
But now I think she's like, like the past 10 years,
she's in a point of career whereshe's like, okay, I can have
fun with this now and she'sreally just trying anything.
She's been in the adam sandlermovie, she's done she's.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
She's a very fun personality she was in an
episode of like the black mirrorand stuff.
That was cool I didn't see thatyeah, I said, just look it up,
selma.
I don't know what the episode'scalled, but selma hayek's in an
episode of the black mirror andI I try not to watch the black
mirror because it's like beyondI like.
I typically like psychologicalthrillers, but the black mirror
some just keeps me too muchanxiety new season just coming

(56:58):
out these announcing oh, let'sshow photos.
Oh my god yeah so, um, who elseI was?
Just, it was at the tip of mytongue.
I was about to say, oh no, ohuh, sandra bullock she up she
was like, and still is like, oneof my favorite actresses or
actors.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
She was good in what's that?
The football one.
Yeah, she's good in that.
I like her a lot.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
Her entire career.
I would like kill for Okay, Iwouldn't murder anybody For real
, but like, oh man, I'd die tohave a career like hers, like
she was in.
She's like been in love storymovies, like romantic love
stories, uh, like action andfreaking the heat with uh
melissa mccarthy oh yeah, soshe's like the one with the bus

(57:45):
speed.
That was her first big one, Ithink yeah, I think so and like
so she's gotten to work with,mainly like Keanu.
Keanu, yeah so, and what wasthe?
Was it Interstellar?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
in space.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Yeah, christopher Nolan, yeah she blew my absolute
socks off in that movie Gravity, gravity Interstellar was
different with MatthewMcConaughey oh, okay, so Gravity
, they came out at a similartime, like around the same time
yeah, but that's.
That was such a good movie andit like gave me so many panic
attacks watching it, but it wasworth it, like I'm like I will.

(58:18):
I will have panic attacks justto watch you be amazing.
So she was like somebody to Idon't know.
I really looked up to her and Ithought that was cool.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I haven't heard any news of her coming out anything,
anything, I'm sure she probablyis, but I just haven't heard
anything news of her coming outor things, anything.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
I'm sure she probably is, but I just haven't heard
anything recently I think whatmakes her well to me, what made
it so awesome to watch asidefrom the fact that she was like
one of the only snarky brunettesand I identified with that I'm
like, oh, there is a place forme, like, because you know, like
when growing up there wasn't awhole lot of like latinos

(58:54):
there's not a lot ofrepresentation of main
characters in movies or tv shows, so it's like seeing somebody
with like darker features meanta lot and it gave me like it was
just.
It felt, even though I don't youknow it felt like
representation at the time.
It gave me, like I don't know,that idea that this could be for

(59:14):
me A little permission.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I mean for years.
We only had like, was it theshow with George Lopez?

Speaker 3 (59:20):
But yeah, I think one of the reasons that she's so
good is because she can be.
She's funny, she's comedic, andI once heard that if, like, you
have to be smart to be funny, Ionce heard that you have to be
smart to be funny, and I 100%agree with that.
So if you're a funny actor,you're probably a smart actor.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
I agree with that.
I 100% agree with that.
I really do, because I'm a bigfan of stand-up comedy too and I
like listening to stand-upcomedy stand-ups podcast and
they're always talking aboutcurrent events like, oh, what's
going on with Trump, or what'sgoing on in this country, or
something like that.
I'm like I don't know shitgoing on there, dude, I just
know like I think you're funny.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, that was kind of when we were writing.
I was in a comedy writing classand we would have to bring in
we and write like one-liners andI'm just like oh man, that was
such a challenge for me.
Other people were like, but itwas good to see how like I
wasn't too far off.
But yeah, that was what we hadto do.
We would bring in like what wasgoing on in the news and write

(01:00:23):
jokes off of that, which is whatthey do in like snl yeah,
that's why I was like that wouldthat could be fun.
I could totally write for snl Imean they you could set.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Think all it is is like a pack you got set in.
Now the thing about that it'stough because, like, if they
don't like it I mean if theydon't like you they'll still use
your audition like whatever youwrote in the skits in the show,
probably without giving youcredit?

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
Do you have to write like a If you're?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
auditioning for a writer.
Um, I don't know, I don't knowthe process.
I remember hearing likeinterview process, like they
this person auditioned to be awriter.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Like that cannot possibly be true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I think it actually.
I think I heard on a Joe Roganpodcast when I was thinking I
don't listen to Joe Rogan likethat, don't worry, I already did
.
You had somebody out there andyou talked about the process.
Yeah, you write a packet, awriting packet, three or four
sketches and you submit it inthere.
If you like it, they'll callyou for auditions or something
like that, but if they don'tlike it, they'll still hold onto

(01:01:23):
your sketches.
It's their property.
Now, I'm sure that's somethingin their writing for audition
prices.
Okay, I'm'm gonna think aboutthat for days now.
But yeah, kind of likeinstagram and facebook, like
anything you put on there, iskind of like they have the right
.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
And tiktok's the one always under fire too sorry,
true, yeah, there's a, there's,um, there's a teacher here in in
in Chicago, um that that doeslike the SNL prep, like.
That's the class that I tookthe right, the comedy writing
class it was for for.
TV for what do you call the latenight talk?

(01:02:03):
For talk shows?
I'll do.
They have a talk show writingclass, um, like SNL packet
writing class, so like,basically, if you wanted to, you
could prep that stuff, um, andthen yeah it's, it's cool
because they do a good job.
Yeah nice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Uh, we're coming about over here.
Before we get out of here, thelast thing I want to ask you is
just like what advice you haveto give somebody who wants to
get in the acting world I wouldsay um get yourself an agent as
soon as you can.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
How do you get?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
an agent.
Let's start with that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Well, the quickest way is just to look them up
online Search for agents in yourarea.
But I would suggest going tothe SAG-AFTRA website and
looking up affiliated agents,because that means that they're
legit.
So anybody asking you for moneyor anything like that up front

(01:02:58):
is not somebody you want to workwith.
But if you literally just do asimple search on, like a Google
search for for agents in Chicago, you'll you'll be able to find
a good list and submit, becausethey are the ones who will be
getting like facilitatinggetting you auditions.

(01:03:19):
Um, of course, getting a degreeis nice, but it doesn't
necessarily mean that you'regoing to get work.
It definitely is good to havethe training and have the
experience, but I will say itjust doesn't necessarily.
again, it just doesn'tnecessarily guarantee you
anything except for just sometraining yeah so, and I've seen

(01:03:39):
plenty of people that have gonethrough like mfa programs, um,
that just aren't doing itanymore.
So it doesn't, it doesn't haveto be like the go to school for
it kind of thing.
So I feel like if somebody is,you know, like out of high
school, like you could, youcould do, you can start whenever

(01:04:00):
yeah, you can be an actor as akid and get a work permit.
So I would suggest that startwith getting, get yourself an
agent and, if you like, say youdo a google search, it'll say
what you need in order to submitto get signed.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
And so, if you just think about it, do it.
Life is too, short Life is tooshort and at least you say you
went for it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Yeah, I would take that advice If I wanted to do it
.
Yeah, that's like the mostdirect path I can suggest for
somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Nice, I want to plug your podcast.
Well, last time the potty mouthpoop podcast potty mouth poop
cast potty mouth poop cast.
Sorry, it's all good.
You guys are Apple, spotify,everything you guys do try to do
weekly.
You said it right.
Yeah, what is something fromthis season that you remember?
One of the poop facts youremember do you remember any?

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
what about the first episode of the season?
The tenesmos, tenesmos, cacaTenesmos?

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
caca.
Yeah, tenesmos was.
It's the first episode of thefourth season and it's basically
the term.
Tenesmos means that feelingwhen you've already gone to the
bathroom and you've wiped andyou've, you know you're moving
on with your day, but you stillfeel like you're not done and
you have to return to the toiletbut nothing's happening.

(01:05:16):
And that kind of was areflection of what happened to
us.
We had to take a hiatus.
We were like we were on a roll.
We were doing like threeseasons.
We weren't super consistentwith when they came out, but we
did three seasons yeah back toback, and then it was crickets.
For what?
Four years?
Four years wow so now we'reback, and it was a tenesmus

(01:05:38):
moment podcasting is just funtoo.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
So I think, listening to you guys podcast, everyone
check it out.
I'll definitely have you bothback on.
We'll actually do movie reviewsof some of our favorite movies.
Thank you for both coming onthe podcast.
Like I said, keep checking outyou guys podcast.
Thank you for ever listening.
Stay tuned podcast.
Like I said, keep checking outyou guys podcast.
Thank you for ever listening.
Stay tuned next week, whereI'll be saving you a seat.