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Ben (00:07):
welcome to this startup is
being recorded.
This recording is improvisedfiction.
Similarities between it and thereal world are entirely
intentional.
Now enjoy the recording.
Kate (00:22):
Uh, Hey everybody happy
Wednesday.
Um, w we have hopefully ameeting that'll fit into 30
minutes today, but we'll see, wedo have a couple of folks
joining us, um, around thecontent rebranding, um, uh, For
the couple of new folks, we dorecord all of our meetings here.
Um, you know, we just think it'sreally important for the history
(00:43):
of this company that anyemployees new or future have the
ability to really download allthe information about us and
become the most embeddedemployees they can.
So I hope that's okay.
Um, we're already recording andyeah, I guess the point of this
meeting is to hear some of thepitches you have around content,
um, which will go well with ournew name.
(01:06):
That is still to be decided, butbefore we dig into that, let's
just introduce everybody.
Um, maybe the Metta market folkscan, can start.
Um, I'm Kate I am the chief ofstaff here.
I work under John.
Uh, John of course is our CEO.
Um, I believe he has met youboth before.
(01:26):
Right?
Matt Matthews (01:27):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also Matt Matthews (01:29):
Yep.
Big John guys.
Kate (01:31):
You bring John guys.
Also Matt Matthews (01:32):
Um,
Eric (01:32):
Interesting.
Matt Matthews (01:33):
of John over
here.
Eric (01:36):
Great
Kate (01:36):
Amazing.
Um, most people don't haveenough time with John to really
become fans, but
Eric (01:42):
form an opinion at all.
Kate (01:44):
right.
Um, anyway, uh, who, who elsewants.
Thea (01:49):
Go Califia Metta Roba.
am the chief creatives are atMetta market and, uh, excited to
see what you guys come up with.
Eric (02:00):
Um, Eric Joyce Carter,
chief product officer, I'm tired
of saying formerly or soon to nolonger be metal market.
So really excited for thismeeting.
And hopefully we can make onemore step towards actually
having a name.
Matt.Yachts (02:16):
Uh, I'm Matt, uh,
matt.yachts, and I'm the CTO
here at, uh, Metro market andwhatever.
Uh, so yeah, Do you guys want tointroduce yourselves for the,
uh, for the.
Matt Matthews (02:28):
oh yeah, yeah,
sure.
Um, I am Matt Matthews for, uh,uh, big mats content.
I'm
Kate (02:36):
Matt's car.
Matt Matthews (02:37):
to.
Yeah.
We, we had, uh, BMC are excitedto work with you guys.
Also Matt Matthews (02:43):
And, um, I
am Matt Matthews with big mats
contents.
at BMC are really excited towork with you guys.
Kate (02:51):
wait, sorry, which Matt?
Matt.Yachts (02:56):
yeah.
Oh, you meant?
Kate (02:59):
Wait, are you both?
You're both names.
Also Matt Matthews (03:03):
But two of
them are,
Kate (03:05):
Well, you're all name,
Matt.
Matt.Yachts (03:06):
Yeah.
I'm I'm
Also Matt Matthews (03:09):
so
Matt.Yachts (03:10):
Yeah.
Kate (03:12):
Okay.
Big, big, big mats content, Iguess are what are your real
names?
I guess?
Thea (03:18):
map,
Matt Matthews (03:20):
my father,
Thea (03:21):
oh,
Eric (03:22):
got it.
Is he a part of the company too?
Matt Matthews (03:25):
uh, he, he was,
he's no longer
Eric (03:28):
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm
Matt.Yachts (03:29):
oh, I'm sorry.
Eric (03:30):
Yeah,
Also Matt Matthews (03:31):
My father
was also, uh,
Matt.Yachts (03:34):
Oh no, no relation.
Kate (03:37):
and he was also part of
the,
Also Matt Matthews (03:39):
Not part of
the company.
Thea (03:40):
Okay.
Kate (03:44):
no relation to the
company.
Just a relation to the mat.
Also Matt Matthews (03:47):
Um,
Kate (03:49):
mat.
Thea (03:50):
Right.
Kate (03:51):
well, uh, no, we've got
all our names out of the way.
Um, do y'all want to get startedand, uh, yeah, I guess jump
right into what you've got andmaybe give an overview too.
Of course, for the stream of,you know, how we got started on
this project and the goals andall that.
Matt Matthews (04:12):
Yeah, absolutely.
Um, so when we were talking toJohn, uh, he told us you know,
the, the rebranding, the wholemeta issue with the names and
things like that.
And, um, we are a company whospecializes in a branded
content.
(04:33):
so, you know, where would, uh,where would Tylenol PM be
without the matrix or, uh, we,we, we like to, uh, w w we like
to do content that doesn't seemlike advertising.
Kate (04:50):
Okay.
Matt Matthews (04:51):
gets your name
out there, and that gets the
product in front of people.
Um, so really
Kate (04:56):
Cool.
Matt Matthews (04:57):
with you guys.
Uh, with the currently known asMetamarkets.
Matt, did I miss anything?
Do you want to,
Also Matt Matthews (05:06):
Uh, yeah,
Matt.
Matt.Yachts (05:09):
Sorry me.
Um, I'm not that familiar withyour, with your company,
honestly, that that's soundedright.
Also Matt Matthews (05:16):
All right.
Well, I.
Matt Matthews (05:17):
me.
Matt.Yachts (05:19):
Oh, okay.
That makes more sense.
Kate (05:22):
great.
And I mean, as we talked aboutover the dinner, um, That we had
with you without knowing that wewere meeting with you?
Um, yeah, I didn't know if it'sjust like monthly olive garden
team dinners are really our big,big time to spend together.
So it was surprising you werethere last month, but either
way, I glad John sent you.
(05:45):
Um, and the breadsticks reallybrought everyone together.
Um, despite, yeah, I don't know.
Eric (05:55):
that's on yours.
That's one of yours.
The family was.
Also Matt Matthews (06:00):
I mean, not
with olive garden.
Eric (06:02):
Fast and the furious then
fast at the various
Also Matt Matthews (06:06):
smaller,
Eric (06:07):
oh, um, nothing.
Nothing comes to mind.
What, w w what other familybranding this there
Also Matt Matthews (06:14):
Uh, so
there's a, there's a little, a
little place behind the olivegarden called tomato pasture.
if you're there, we are family,
Kate (06:23):
Like physically.
Thea (06:25):
before the olive garden?
Also Matt Matthews (06:29):
um,
Matt Matthews (06:30):
timelines don't
really matter.
Thea (06:34):
Got it.
Yeah.
I mean, great.
Kate (06:38):
I mean, timelines do
matter for things like
copywriting of, you know,slogans and whatnot, but
Also Matt Matthews (06:46):
it's not the
same slogan when you're there.
We are family.
Eric (06:51):
so are you ever part of
the family or, or, or not?
Yeah, that really makes youthink I can, I can see how
that's an ear warm, like I guesspeople.
Oh, and what's what is thisbrand?
Okay.
Okay.
Um, I'm I'm I'm I'm listening.
Thank you
Also Matt Matthews (07:04):
to think
about it.
you to figure that out.
Eric (07:07):
tell.
Okay.
Matt.Yachts (07:09):
It does.
It does make you think it makesyou question the concept of
family who's in the family.
What is it?
Kate (07:15):
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I'm sure that's not one ofthe slogans he would come up
with for, for us.
Um, I assume so.
Matt Matthews (07:23):
Uh, hold on.
I'm going to mark something outreal quick.
Matt.Yachts (07:27):
sure.
And, uh, just, just to puteverything on the table, I don't
recall what we talked about atolive garden, but, um, Bugsby
are a world famous mascot.
Uh, now a self-sovereign.
Uh, out in the world, um, didrecently do an appearance.
I think it has yet to air, uh,on NCI S uh, and I'm, I just
(07:48):
thought it's, it's brandedcontent.
Uh Califia and I thought weshould be really clear, uh, you
know, we are, we have been doingtie-ins.
So just so that the mats areaware of that.
Kate (08:01):
yeah, though.
Notably the embroidered couchthat was also featured MCIs we
are no longer stocking those.
So if you have anything relatedto the embroidery, That would
also be something to cut.
Matt Matthews (08:13):
Okay, good to
know.
Kate (08:15):
anyway, I think we've
taken up, you know, so much time
dwelling on the olive garden,uh, tomato, tomato field or
whatever that was a pasturetomatoes don't grow in pastures.
Anyway.
Uh, go right ahead.
Maybe you hit us with, with whatyou've got.
What's the best.
Matt Matthews (08:35):
Oh, you want me
to skip to the best or
Kate (08:38):
Oh,
Matt Matthews (08:38):
we we've got a
big idea that I was kind of
holding for, like, you know, thefinale,
Kate (08:43):
okay.
Matt Matthews (08:44):
But, um,
Kate (08:46):
Sure.
Matt Matthews (08:47):
I've got a couple
other ideas here.
Um, so I liked Bugsy.
I like Bugsy as a character,like Bugsy as a mascot.
I want to know.
Matt.Yachts (08:56):
sorry.
It's it's uh, it's Bugsbythere's a, there's a second
before.
Matt Matthews (09:00):
Okay.
I got a, um, hold on.
Make some notes.
Okay.
So that idea is not going towork if he's got that B um,
Kate (09:11):
did you have a bug or
slogan sorry, cutting you off.
Uh, go, go ahead.
Matt Matthews (09:18):
Uh, so moving
past that, um, but I, I do like
bugs B, um, and think I want toknow, um, sort of his story
where he's come from.
Um, I love that he was in anepisode of, in CIS, uh, because
this first idea, uh, we have topresent you guys.
(09:38):
Um, we like to call die from.
Uh, so bugs be, would be a, acop who is estranged from his
wife.
Um, he's traveling to visit, uh,for shark week and, um, he gets
(10:00):
caught up in an international,uh, incident he saves the day.
Also Matt Matthews (10:06):
And just to
add to that really quick.
Are you guys from on bugs bugsbe
Thea (10:13):
That's his name?
Matt.Yachts (10:15):
Yeah.
Thea (10:15):
Uh,
Also Matt Matthews (10:16):
because the
bugs, the ID has really good.
Thea (10:20):
yeah, is, you know, our
mascot and again, a, um, person
in its own.
Right.
So we really, it's not a pieceof creative that we can just
change.
Also Matt Matthews (10:34):
Okay.
Matt.Yachts (10:37):
right.
Um, I don't, I don't recall thecontent discussions about Bugsby
from before I joined, uh, metalmarket, but, um, are we cool
with Bugsby being a cop feeling?
Thea (10:51):
Uh, yeah, I don't really
think that's that, uh, really.
Fits in with the bug speakbrand.
I just also want to make sure,like, are we, when we're
pitching these ideas, are weassuming that they're going to
be like well-known actors inthis, uh, ad marketing
(11:13):
experience?
Matt Matthews (11:15):
Well, I think
that the idea is for bugs, be
themselves to be in this ad.
Um,
Thea (11:24):
Okay.
Matt Matthews (11:24):
the face out
there, get the brand out there.
Eric (11:27):
sure.
Um,
Also Matt Matthews (11:29):
We, and we
did get Bruce Williams for this
Bruce Williams.
Kate (11:34):
You're already sourcing
actors.
Eric (11:36):
Wow.
He's great.
In that Campbell soup commercial
Kate (11:42):
I think maybe some of us
are missing the point of this,
which is, this sounds extremelylike a movie that already
exists.
That probably doesn't just letanyone make commercials that are
based off of this.
Also Matt Matthews (11:56):
I'm going to
stop you there,
Kate (11:59):
Okay.
Also Matt Matthews (12:01):
Matt.
Matt.Yachts (12:02):
Yeah.
Oh, sorry.
Matt Matthews (12:06):
Oh,
Also Matt Matthews (12:07):
Yeah, just
Kate (12:08):
Can we, can we call him
big Matt or something?
Would that be better?
Also Matt Matthews (12:11):
Uh,
Matt.Yachts (12:13):
as, is that a thing
between the two of you?
Like, which one of you is thebig mat?
Also Matt Matthews (12:16):
well, it's
going to really upset big Matt
who was
Kate (12:20):
I thought he was dead.
Also Matt Matthews (12:21):
in heaven
now.
Kate (12:24):
Okay.
Okay.
That's fine, Matt,
Matt.Yachts (12:29):
But wait, I'm
sorry, is, uh, Kate, you said
this is already a, a movie.
What do you mean?
Kate (12:38):
the name die from it's
like diehard, but with one
synonym
Matt Matthews (12:43):
Oh, I see.
Matt.Yachts (12:45):
I was, I can't
believe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Love that.
Yeah.
Matt Matthews (12:49):
No.
Okay.
So
Kate (12:50):
again, not the point.
Matt Matthews (12:52):
um, common
misconception, uh, in the movie
diehard.
Uh, it is, Christmas is notshark week.
Eric (13:01):
Well, yeah, that actually
brings up another question.
I have.
Well, since, since bugs has beenan episode of MCIs, which is CBS
property, uh,
Thea (13:11):
this up again?
Eric (13:13):
I'm just the logistics of
this, then the licensing
there's, there's got to be anon-compete from that.
And discovery is, is its ownnetwork it's and there's no way
they would let, they would letus run a discovery product if
he's been on a CBS show in the,in the last six months.
Also Matt Matthews (13:27):
is a
different shark week.
Eric (13:29):
Oh, there's another shark.
Also Matt Matthews (13:33):
It's
Eric (13:33):
Is this one,
Also Matt Matthews (13:34):
it's this is
a week for sharks.
Eric (13:36):
it organized by sharks
themselves?
Also Matt Matthews (13:38):
yeah, yeah,
Eric (13:39):
Oh, that's so great.
Also Matt Matthews (13:40):
sharks, you
know, the shark.
Eric (13:43):
From the west side, from
west side story.
Also Matt Matthews (13:46):
warmer, sh
the sharks, you know,
Thea (13:54):
The one swimming in the
ocean.
Also Matt Matthews (13:57):
it could be
Kate (13:59):
th the New York aquarium
sharks, I don't know.
Also Matt Matthews (14:02):
Uh, I think
you have it in your notes.
sharks.
Thea (14:05):
they about actual sharks?
Like fish, cartilage
Matt Matthews (14:10):
I'm sorry for the
confusion.
We're talking about loan sharks.
Thea (14:15):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
You want Bugsby to be associatedwith loan sharks?
Eric (14:21):
rare case where I might
actually be okay with him being
a cop, though, if he's kind ofbusting like, know, unscrupulous
loan, shark.
Thea (14:29):
Yeah,
Eric (14:29):
college students back into
the couch market.
Thea (14:31):
I just want to be, I just
want to be really clear after
the Mark Hammond fiasco though,since we are going down like a
cop, like line that I refuse towork with.
William Peterson, Sam Waterson,David James Elliott, Scott
backlog, or Tom Selleck.
Matt.Yachts (14:45):
it's really too bad
about Scott.
Bakalin
Also Matt Matthews (14:47):
I'm going to
cross some things out here.
Matt Matthews (14:49):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're going to adjust our notes.
Um, so sorry, I didn't know anyof this coming in.
Um, okay.
Well, let's, uh, let's
Kate (14:58):
is that entire?
Yeah.
Is that tire three ring binderfull of ideas?
Cause I only scheduled 30minutes for this
Matt Matthews (15:07):
This is, uh, this
is my ideas notebook.
Um, it hasn't, it hasn't allbeen generated for men to
market.
Um, it's just sort of, I
Kate (15:15):
okay.
Matt Matthews (15:16):
jot some things
down,
Kate (15:18):
Got it.
Matt Matthews (15:18):
I get inspired
or, um, to the movies or
something like that.
Um, so let let's table the let'stable die from for now and just
Thea (15:28):
Yeah.
Matt Matthews (15:29):
it, it sounds
like we have.
Some, some to explore there, ifwe're going to go further.
So, um, moving on, I know a copwas maybe not your, your bag,
but, um, sheriff Bugsby.
(15:50):
How does that grab.
Matt.Yachts (15:52):
I mean, that's
just, that's it.
Yeah, that's a cop also.
Kate (15:56):
Right.
Thea (15:56):
Yeah.
Especially if you're, I wouldassume a sheriff at you're going
with a wild, wild west
Also Matt Matthews (16:03):
Well,
Thea (16:03):
fear.
Also Matt Matthews (16:05):
we have a,
we have a different spin on the
classic sheriff.
So Amity island shark week.
Thea (16:14):
Okay, can you just, again,
just
Matt.Yachts (16:16):
Why's that?
Thea (16:17):
which shark week talking
about the loan shark week.
Also Matt Matthews (16:21):
is the week
that a shark ate so many people.
Matt.Yachts (16:25):
Oh,
Matt Matthews (16:26):
And he is to be
clear.
He is a loan It's just the oneshark.
Thea (16:33):
So
Matt.Yachts (16:33):
yeah.
Thea (16:33):
commemorating the shark
that killed people just wide
Also Matt Matthews (16:38):
Well, so
Thea (16:40):
a bunch of people
Also Matt Matthews (16:41):
sheriff
Bugsy.
Thea (16:42):
people, but the shark.
Also Matt Matthews (16:45):
Sure Bugsy
is trying to stop the murders
during shark week bugs li.
Matt.Yachts (16:51):
It's a bug bugs
Kate (16:52):
bugs, beat second beat.
Matt Matthews (16:55):
Uh, yeah, I
obviously I couldn't go through
and update all of our notes whenwe learned that.
So,
Kate (17:00):
But earlier you had it as
Bugsy and I have it.
A Lee did it.
You weren't even consistent inyour own.
Matt Matthews (17:07):
It's possible.
We took separate notes.
Also Matt Matthews (17:10):
I took some
creative liberties.
I thought that's why we werehere.
Matt.Yachts (17:15):
okay.
I just have a question.
So the, there is a weekdedicated to a shark that, uh,
a, a bunch of people, uh, andthey are celebrating this week,
but also sheriff Bugsby istrying to stop the shark.
The shark is still.
Also Matt Matthews (17:30):
Well, in
this university, sheriff
Buckley.
Thea (17:34):
Okay, but share
Matt.Yachts (17:35):
Okay.
We can.
Thea (17:36):
is the shark.
That's still around, but thesame shark, the rest of the town
seems to celebrate in a week,commemorating him for killing a
bunch of people.
Also Matt Matthews (17:48):
I see the
confusion you're thinking of
discovery is shark week, butthis is Amity island shark week
sheriff bugs li don't
Kate (17:59):
okay.
I get that we have problems withnames and the confusion, but
like, I just want to point outagain that this is the plot of a
major movie of jobs.
I, I don't
Matt.Yachts (18:11):
familiar.
Yeah,
Also Matt Matthews (18:14):
of it.
Thea (18:15):
Okay.
Can you I'm on both of thesemovies, I'm just going to be
afraid.
Totally with any sort of likeart.
And I don't believe that it hasto be like really intentional
about couches.
I mean, that's really embeddedin a lot of our marketing, but
I, and maybe you can just walkme through with this concept so
(18:35):
I could help to understand I'mnot even sure.
I see where subliminally thisconcept would, would lead people
to want to buy couches.
Also Matt Matthews (18:47):
Matt.
I thought John really liked thisidea.
Matt Matthews (18:50):
Oh, he did.
Um,
Also Matt Matthews (18:52):
Hmm.
Matt Matthews (18:52):
to, to, uh
Califia to your point, um, let
me ask you something when you,um, so suppose you find yourself
without a place to live and youhave to, uh, crash at your
friend's apartment.
W what do people call that?
Thea (19:13):
Ouch surfing.
Matt Matthews (19:15):
Right.
Exactly.
And when we think about couchsurfing, we think about beaches.
We think about sheriffs, and wethink about shark week.
Thea (19:28):
Will there surfing in
this, this plot line here?
Matt Matthews (19:36):
Yeah, the, um,
the sharks, sorry.
The sharks name is mouth mouths.
Primary victims are surfers so
Matt.Yachts (19:44):
Servers and we'll
we'll.
Thea (19:47):
message that if you couch
surf you'll die.
Eric (19:50):
Right.
It's like dangerous,
Matt.Yachts (19:52):
Yeah, not so
subliminal.
I think that's, that's overt,right?
It's in the text.
Thea (19:57):
yeah.
Eric (19:57):
right?
Matt Matthews (19:58):
they're couch
surfing on Metamarkets couches.
Also Matt Matthews (20:01):
Love this.
Matt.Yachts (20:03):
Um, interesting.
Eric (20:05):
Where the sheriff is going
to protect them from cop surfing
dangerous.
Kate (20:09):
okay.
We, we,
Matt Matthews (20:10):
great idea, Eric.
Thea (20:12):
safe.
Kate (20:13):
no, no, no, no, no, no,
no,
Thea (20:14):
I totally get that.
Also Matt Matthews (20:16):
We all
Kate (20:16):
no.
I know.
So we had a whole situation lastyear about how buoyant our
couches are or not.
And, you know, the whole
Thea (20:26):
yeah.
Kate (20:27):
fiasco.
And I, I just really don't wantto to overtly or subliminally
tell anyone that they should betaking our couches into waters
that are larger or deeper thantwo feet.
Thea (20:38):
Or replacing lifeboats
with couches.
Kate (20:41):
Right.
Unless y'all want to reintroducethe inflatable couch line.
Eric (20:48):
now.
Thea (20:52):
Yeah.
Matt Matthews (20:53):
Uh, so Matt, I
think that the next idea, um,
the gigantic USS gigantic, Ithink
Also Matt Matthews (21:01):
Yeah,
Matt Matthews (21:01):
pass on that one.
If we're avoiding water.
Also Matt Matthews (21:05):
I've got,
I've just got like a last idea
in my notes.
Sandlot.
Kate (21:14):
Sorry.
Say that again.
Eric (21:17):
Sand a lot or Sandlot
Also Matt Matthews (21:19):
Sandlot,
Kate (21:20):
Say, say sand a lot since
Also Matt Matthews (21:25):
just
Sandlot.
Eric (21:26):
okay.
Like, like the, like thechildren's movie
Thea (21:30):
um,
Also Matt Matthews (21:30):
I'm going to
mark that out.
I'm just going to
Eric (21:33):
now, um, I want to hear
more.
They, they, they reallysquandered their, their remake.
Maybe we can some life back tothe franchise.
Also Matt Matthews (21:40):
uh, I don't
know what you're talking about,
but I'm just going to.
Kate (21:44):
how do you all come up
with these ideas, but it's
clearly never seen a movie inyour entire life.
These are all very classicmovies.
Matt Matthews (21:55):
Well, um, I'm not
sure what you're implying.
Um, we're not.
Also Matt Matthews (22:01):
ideas.
Kate (22:03):
I mean, I don't own a TV.
I don't watch movies, but Ifrequently print out I B and
read it to make sure that I ampart of the, you know, social
site Geist.
Uh, I do you not do somethinglike that?
Matt Matthews (22:18):
PR parallel
thinking is something that a
lot.
do you know how many, uh, booksand movies were pitched with a
little magic boy who discovershe's a wizard and, um, uh,
Thea (22:29):
I totally believe in
parallel thinking.
I mean, I totally agree, butthat usually.
And so on one idea, and it seemslike several of your ideas.
I mean, unless you have somesort of way to tap into a
creativity channel, but onlycontains blockbuster movies.
Also Matt Matthews (22:50):
Let me
remind you.
And seen an olive garden once.
But
Eric (22:56):
last week.
Also Matt Matthews (22:56):
tomato
pasture.
When you're here, we are family.
Matt.Yachts (23:00):
family.
I, yeah, I remember that that'sreally stuck in my.
Also Matt Matthews (23:03):
That was one
of our classic ideas.
Yeah.
It's sticks.
And you've all heard of tomatopasture.
I mean, it's a staple.
Kate (23:13):
no,
Matt.Yachts (23:13):
honestly
Thea (23:14):
Yeah.
Matt.Yachts (23:15):
meeting now.
Eric (23:16):
Yeah, I do remember from
the past 20 minutes.
So.
Matt Matthews (23:21):
Okay.
I think we're ready to move onto our big idea.
Matt.Yachts (23:26):
Oh, okay.
Eric (23:27):
Great.
Great.
Also Matt Matthews (23:28):
Yeah,
Matt Matthews (23:28):
is, this is the
big one.
Okay.
That's what we're calling it.
The big.
Um,
Kate (23:34):
Like big Matt.
Sorry.
Matt Matthews (23:36):
exactly.
This is sort of a prequel story.
He bugs me as a child, um, whowants more than anything to
grow.
And
Also Matt Matthews (23:49):
Yeah.
Matt Matthews (23:50):
uh, possibly Tom
Hanks.
Um, he goes to a toy store.
He dances on a giant piano,classic family commercial, the
big one.
Matt.Yachts (24:05):
But yeah, that's a
movie called big starring Tommy.
That one does exist.
I know I wouldn't to Matt.
I would
Also Matt Matthews (24:16):
took that.
Kate (24:17):
Listen, let me print out
the IMDP page for you.
Uh
Also Matt Matthews (24:21):
on, hold on,
hold on.
We sent this to Tom Hanks.
Matt.Yachts (24:25):
Did you send it to
him like 30 years ago?
Also Matt Matthews (24:27):
I don't know
how we did it.
Kate (24:29):
Tom Hanks respond.
Matt Matthews (24:32):
it was a form
letter.
Kate (24:34):
Well, think you get that
counts as him agreeing to sign
onto this commercial.
Also Matt Matthews (24:39):
Yeah, it
sounds like you stole our idea.
Matt.Yachts (24:42):
again, this, this
was, uh, a film in the, I think
the 1980s.
Also Matt Matthews (24:46):
I don't, I'm
not saying I know.
Matt.Yachts (24:49):
I, guess we'll be
40, 30 to 40 years ago.
Matt Matthews (24:52):
this may be good
news.
Um, if we know that Tom Hankshas agreed to play this role in
the past, I think it's morelikely that he will settle back
into
Matt.Yachts (25:03):
we're a prize.
Yeah,
Also Matt Matthews (25:05):
Especially
Matt Matthews (25:05):
know,
Also Matt Matthews (25:06):
gave him the
idea.
Matt Matthews (25:07):
get get Tom Hanks
back out there, name back in
people's homes back in people'smouths.
Matt.Yachts (25:13):
just Califia.
Just bugs, be a grownup bugs.
We strike you as a Tom Hankskind of.
Thea (25:20):
first bugs me age is on
different timelines because he's
not a human, you know, he has alonger lifespan.
know this.
So I, I just think like, andalso the signs of age being in
the creature bugs be is it'sjust very different than human
signs of aging.
So I think, you know, justputting us, showing a grownup
(25:41):
bugs feed.
Stymies our future creativityabout bike speed will grow up
into, but like second, I mean,this is, uh, you know, me, I
enjoy original creativity and Ienjoy the protection of
creativity and list is a reallybig copyright, you know, issue
(26:01):
here.
Um, and finally, We don't needanother SQL, you know, I think
the creative department and onlycoming up with original ideas
and not reusing any idea hasmade our position pretty firm on
how we feel about sequels andtrilogies.
Other than those written byTolkien.
Kate (26:22):
Um, Matt,
Matt Matthews (26:24):
Yeah.
Matt.Yachts (26:27):
yeah.
Kate (26:27):
the big, the maps from the
big mat, the, I just Googled
you, which is something I shouldhave done before.
It seems like you are embroiledin just like dozens of lawsuits
about taking.
Classic movies and turning theminto ads or stealing slogans
from other, and in all of these,you've tried to show extensive
(26:51):
proof that you have not seen anyof this.
Uh, and I'm just, I'm not quitesure this is where we want to
go.
Is, is there anythingdefinitively you can say or show
to us to prove that you did notstraight up steal this?
Matt Matthews (27:08):
I don't even own
a TV,
Kate (27:11):
I have already told you
how I don't own a TV, but I have
the ability to print out.
I am DB.
Also Matt Matthews (27:16):
No computer.
Matt Matthews (27:18):
no printer.
Kate (27:19):
That's why I use this
three ring notebook.
Huh?
Eric (27:22):
wait, wait.
When the who's who's sending usemails from M Matthews at big
mat consulting, Korea.
Also Matt Matthews (27:29):
Huh.
Matt Matthews (27:31):
Oh, those are our
competitors.
Eric (27:34):
What's
Matt.Yachts (27:35):
a bummer.
They got the domain.
Huh?
Matt Matthews (27:38):
Mm
Eric (27:38):
there.
Kate (27:40):
what's their
Eric (27:40):
was kind of the mess we're
in right now.
Thea (27:42):
And explain why you kept
sending us snail mail to set up
this meeting.
Also Matt Matthews (27:51):
And I, I
want to clear my name.
Maybe Matt stolen some ideas.
I never have.
The only thing I've ever stolenin my life was a car.
And I served my time.
Matt Matthews (28:03):
Yeah, Matt has
clearly is still an ideas and
you guys work with him everyday.
So I don't understand.
Matt.Yachts (28:08):
Wait, we're talking
about me now.
Eric (28:10):
That's open source.
That's it's
Matt.Yachts (28:12):
Yeah.
Also Matt Matthews (28:14):
Matt.yachts.
Matt Matthews (28:15):
we believe in
open source creative.
Kate (28:20):
It's
Matt.Yachts (28:21):
Well, when you put
it that way,
Eric (28:22):
What do you have that
existed?
Like this or creative commons?
There's there's a process forthat.
Uh, it's not the Hollywoodstudio process.
That's the opposite.
Also Matt Matthews (28:31):
what is
public domain?
Thea (28:33):
I believe in creative
release, free mixing content.
Like I do think that there'sinteresting things to be done
at, you know, I Support a lot ofmy creative teams,
Matt.Yachts (28:46):
yeah.
You know,
Thea (28:47):
spent on fan fiction, but
this is
Matt.Yachts (28:48):
but maybe we're.
Thea (28:49):
far derivative from the
original storyline.
Matt.Yachts (28:52):
we're being too
hard on the mats here.
And maybe this is just a matthing, but I feel like we're,
we're getting who me
Kate (29:01):
I think maybe just to like
S because I've never actually
directly asked you all, can wejust go around real quick and
state if we've ever stolenanything?
And if so, what?
It was.
Matt.Yachts (29:10):
Oh,
Kate (29:11):
So obviously Matt
Matthews, the
Matt.Yachts (29:15):
you stole.
Kate (29:17):
stolen car.
Also Matt Matthews (29:18):
And your
hearts.
Matt.Yachts (29:21):
No, that's,
Also Matt Matthews (29:22):
um,
Matt.Yachts (29:23):
that's a good one
that I was thinking about that.
Uh, but I'm not going to stealit.
Uh, have I stolen?
Um, yes.
Yeah.
I stole a pair of shoes from aroommate.
Kate (29:35):
Did you serve your time
for that?
Matt.Yachts (29:37):
I don't think they
noticed he had like 50 pairs of
shoes and they just fit mereally.
Kate (29:43):
Got
Matt.Yachts (29:43):
So, I guess, no, I
haven't.
Kate (29:46):
Okay.
Okay.
Um, The last, Matt, do you wantto go?
Matt Matthews (29:51):
I, uh, I've never
stolen ideas.
I did still one thing and, uh,I, I once, uh, stole my business
partners identity.
Also Matt Matthews (30:03):
He did.
Matt.Yachts (30:05):
So from, from you.
Also Matt Matthews (30:07):
my credit's
ruined.
Matt.Yachts (30:09):
Oh,
Matt Matthews (30:10):
It's actually
much easier when you have the
same name.
Matt.Yachts (30:13):
yeah.
Kate (30:14):
Oh, so you had the same
name already.
Matt Matthews (30:16):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also Matt Matthews (30:17):
He started
the, the way he started it was
he asked, compare socialsecurity numbers to see if we
had the same one.
Kate (30:23):
You shouldn't fall for
that.
Matt Matthews (30:26):
For
Matt.Yachts (30:27):
yeah.
Matt Matthews (30:27):
nickname around
the office was just a social
security number,
Matt.Yachts (30:30):
Ouch.
The weight that's much harder toremember and longer than.
Kate (30:35):
Yeah.
Also Matt Matthews (30:37):
I thought it
Matt Matthews (30:37):
but less
confusing.
Matt.Yachts (30:39):
I guess it's very
Eric (30:40):
Let's try it.
This ambiguation.
Matt.Yachts (30:42):
Listen, I do.
I don't want to try this onemore time.
So maybe these mats are comingto us with stolen movie ideas.
Okay.
But
Kate (30:51):
gone through what everyone
has stolen, Matt.
I can't.
Thea (30:54):
you were just asking them
that.
Kate (30:57):
no.
I want to know for you too.
Thea (31:00):
Um, you know, only, uh,
operate on a consent model.
So I haven't taken anything fromanyone that they haven't given
me their explicit permission totake.
Um, yeah, I would say that, um,that is effective from 2002
onward.
And I won't talk about whathappened before 2002.
Eric (31:23):
um, I.
Every two weeks for the last 20years, uh, I, when I go get a
haircut, I sign up online forthe buzz cut for$18, but I ended
up getting a full haircut withlike a shampoo, which should be
$23.
Um, I, at this point they, theyliked me and they know me
enough.
So I don't know if it stillcounts as stealing, but at least
(31:46):
at the beginning it was, it waspartially theft.
Thea (31:49):
Right.
What are they?
Oh,
Eric (31:57):
oh, of course,
Also Matt Matthews (31:58):
That's the
AFT.
Eric (32:00):
but not my, not my, not,
I'm not the perpetrator of that
death, but I agree.
Matt.Yachts (32:06):
I'm sorry.
W tipping is theft.
Eric (32:10):
well, you, the, the big
three tipping, taxation and
time, and those, those are thereal thefts in system.
Also Matt Matthews (32:19):
Guys like
us, we don't need to be.
Why, why do we have to givethem.
Kate (32:24):
That's a whole nother
Thea (32:26):
tip.
Eric (32:27):
uh, no, I do tip, but I
recognize that it's, that the
system of tipping is stealingfrom, from workers.
Like I PR I participate becauseI'm aware of the theft that the
Matt.Yachts (32:36):
Right.
Because they should be paid awage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kate (32:40):
Okay.
Thea (32:41):
sense.
Eric (32:41):
I think Matt
Matt.Yachts (32:42):
go a long
Eric (32:42):
a different page about
this, Matt, Matt, and I might
disagree about the nature ofthis.
Matt.Yachts (32:45):
It just.
Matt Matthews (32:46):
No, no, no.
I'm with you.
Eric (32:48):
Oh, cool.
Also Matt Matthews (32:48):
Yeah.
Kate (32:52):
Well, we don't need to go
read and talk about that.
Matt.Yachts (32:55):
Kate, did we, did
we get to you?
Do you
Kate (32:57):
Um,
Matt.Yachts (32:58):
have you stolen?
Kate (33:00):
did steal.
I was unaware that it wasstealing at the time, but, uh,
when I was nine years old, Iwas.
Unfortunately involved in agoldfish fighting ring.
Uh, and I really hated thatgoldfish were having such
terrible lives in pet stores.
Um, and some nice people came upto me and said that they could
give goldfish better lives.
And we just had to create a planto sneak them out of the stores,
(33:23):
uh, which I, I thought they werelike going back to the wild, but
later found out it was a, it wasa fighting ring.
Matt Matthews (33:29):
So what if one of
these goldfish was named Nemo
and bugs be had
Eric (33:35):
no, no.
Thea (33:37):
No.
Kate (33:39):
Okay.
Matt Matthews (33:40):
control when
inspiration strikes.
Kate (33:41):
Sure.
How about you write that downwith your colored pencils or
something?
Matt Matthews (33:45):
idea.
Yeah.
Thea (33:45):
write it, down, leave a
blank space where bugs people
would have been and use it foryour next
Matt.Yachts (33:50):
I just, I want to
try, I want to try one more
time.
So Matt mats are bringing usthese, these stolen ID.
But we do believe we believe inremix culture, right?
And it is a creative act to domashups.
So mats, why not pitch us oneproject?
That's all of these projectstogether.
(34:13):
That would be unique.
Kate (34:14):
and terrible, but I don't
know.
Sure.
Go ahead.
Try.
Matt Matthews (34:20):
So sheriff Bugsby
used to be a child,
Matt.Yachts (34:27):
Yep.
Matt Matthews (34:27):
now he's at an
airport for shark week and the.
Thea (34:35):
last time.
Let's clarify with shark week.
We're talking about here.
Also Matt Matthews (34:38):
Well in this
Matt.Yachts (34:38):
I think both.
Also Matt Matthews (34:39):
shark week.
it's the shark week whereeveryone's getting killed by a
shark
Kate (34:44):
at an airport.
Also Matt Matthews (34:46):
and, and
discovers discovery.
I I've never heard of it.
Um,
Thea (34:52):
Okay.
Matt Matthews (34:53):
So,
Thea (34:54):
at an airport.
It's shark week.
Matt Matthews (34:56):
yes, it's shark
week at an airport.
Um, I think there's a terroristnamed Nimmo.
Thea (35:08):
And interesting.
Matt Matthews (35:10):
steals, uh, big
speeds shoes and makes him walk
on glass.
Is this
Also Matt Matthews (35:18):
We
Matt Matthews (35:19):
well?
Also Matt Matthews (35:19):
for this
project.
She's desperate.
Matt Matthews (35:23):
Yeah.
And for the part of,
Kate (35:25):
When you say, get hurt, do
you mean you got a form letter?
Also Matt Matthews (35:29):
We got a
form letter from Ellen.
Yeah.
Kate (35:32):
not getting hurt.
Okay.
Keep going.
Matt Matthews (35:34):
for the sake of
incorporating a big, I thought
big speed would be.
Eric (35:38):
Uh,
Matt Matthews (35:41):
Um, so,
Matt.Yachts (35:43):
actually, I don't
see.
Matt Matthews (35:46):
uh, so he has to
walk across glass without his
shoes and then reconnects withhis estranged.
Also Matt Matthews (35:56):
And Ellen
can't remember a thing.
Kate (35:59):
Let's muse on it guys.
And we'll send you a letterback.
seems like your addresses isactually within the, uh, tomato
pasture building.
Um, so we'll know where to findyou.
Also Matt Matthews (36:14):
And I just
want to leave you with this when
you're here.
We are
Matt.Yachts (36:20):
We're family.
Yeah, I can't forget it.
Kate (36:24):
Excellent.
It makes us feel so anxious.
Matt Matthews (36:27):
All right.
Uh, we got to go and, we've gotto meet with our lawyers here in
a few minutes, so,
Kate (36:34):
That makes sense.
Thea (36:35):
yeah.
Matt Matthews (36:37):
Uh, thank you so
much.
Kate (36:39):
Yes.
Thanks so much.
Matt.Yachts (36:40):
thank you, mats.
Good luck.
Yeah.
Actually tell, tell John, wesaid hi.
Eric (36:44):
You tell me, I'll tell
John.
Matt Matthews (36:45):
Okay.
Thea (36:46):
Um,
Kate (36:47):
Great.
All right, I'll just stop therecording.
Carry.
Eric (36:52):
Okay.
Ben (36:54):
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