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We discuss our journey to finally cut the cord on our cable subscription and our experiences setting up a 200-mile range antenna that now gives us 16 free channels.

• Frustrations with the recent daylight saving time change and why it should be eliminated
• Testing and installing a new long-range TV antenna after years of paying for cable we barely watch
• The realization that we're spending over $1000 yearly on cable when we mostly use streaming
• Our growing addiction to phones, Netflix, Disney+, and other subscription services
• Reviews of two true crime documentaries: The Gabby Petito Story on Netflix and Devil in the Family (Ruby Franke case) on Hulu
• Plans to visit Unclaimed Baggage in Scottsboro, but warnings to avoid their busy ski sale days

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm tired.
You know why I'm tired.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're always tired.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I'm tired because I actually got up at 4.50 this
morning instead of 5.50.
You know why I got up at 4.50this morning instead of 5.50.
You know why I got up at 4.50?
Stupid time change, because theclock said 5.50, but actually
it's 4.50.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Jody's body says 4.50 .
Right right.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So that's what's aggravating.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
So welcome back.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Welcome back Once again.
Amanda doesn't want to wear herheadphones because it messes up
her hair there, really is Noton a Sunday when I fix my hair.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I ain't wearing them.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
But you want to make sure you're in the mic.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm in the mic.
I'm all up in the mic.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
You are all up in the mic.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, then I got you.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
So back to the time change thing.
So they're saying now thatTrump is looking at this I don't
know if he is or not Congresswhoever it's been up there
before Past something.
Let's stop this, you got.
Arizona and Hawaii are the onlytwo states that don't do
anything.
They don't play this stupidgame with the time.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And we're not.
So why is it not up to thestate?
I thought it was at one time.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
We're not telling the sun when to set and when to
rise.
It's doing that on its own, sowhy, instead of messing, up
right they're like oh, we needmore time and I do like having.
I like it being light at eighto'clock at night.
I can stay outside, do stuff,pedal, all that.
That's great understand that,and when you do that, you come

(01:40):
in and you're like, oh, I shouldhave been in the bed an hour
ago but the thing is, let's notchange the time back and forth
to play around, because in thefall we need to change it to for
whatever.
Now it's dark at four o'clockin the evening.
Just keep the time to change.
Let's adjust our schedule towhatever the need is.
If you're like I don't likegetting off work at four o'clock

(02:04):
and it's dark outside, well youknow what?
Let's get these businesseschanged.
Say you're working 7 to 4.
Guess what?
You're working 6 to 3.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Now I can't even get there at 7.
You think I can get there at 6?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Now you're getting off work and it's still light.
So let's do that.
Let's adjust our business'stime when you do things and
leave the stinking time timealone.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Okay, I'm done, I can't get there at 7.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, that's on you.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
You think I could get there at 6?
.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's on you.
That has nothing to do with me.
That's not on me.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
My body cannot get up and go.
Something's wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, that's on you, that's not me, that's not the
time.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's Mother nature and I can't stand her right now
Time has nothing to do with yougetting somewhere on time.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
That's on you.
Well it's not when I just can'tgo, it's called individual
responsibility.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
And I try, I try really hard, really hard.
Your body just won't go.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hey, we're on YouTube , by the way.
Check us out.
These videos will be out there.
You'll get to see Winston, ourdog.
He makes an appearance everytime because he sits right
beside me every episode now.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I guess so.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, we put a towel down because I don't want him to
scratch up these seats.
I like this leather.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
I know, I think that's scratch Someone's into a
leather person, I think thatscratch is from me.
It had some scratches when wegot it.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
It might have had a few, but I don't think it was
that deep Well.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
What have we done today?
We're actually recording on.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Sunday.
We're recording on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Actually we recorded on Saturday.
I didn't really like it.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, you.
So I'm like and I thought itwas all right.
I don't know why I didn't likeit.
The only thing about it was wehad to take a pause right in the
middle of it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
And that was fine, no big deal.
So you know we could startright back and we did.
We started right back.
But then, when we got done withit, I looked at the recording
and the recording had stoppedlike 13 minutes in.
We're talking about the video,not the audio.
It's all hooked in but it'sjust records different.
So I was like well, dang um,but that's all right.

(04:09):
So because we had, I was justgonna have to splice the audio
together and everything right.
But then you're like I justdidn't, like it didn't so I
don't know.
All right, we'll do it tomorrowand then now.
Tomorrow is here.
I don't want to you're like youdon't want to but I'm here.
I'm here Because we didn't gethome from church directly.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
And we still hadn't had lunch.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, and we got a funeral to go to.
It's late.
So we got several things we gotto do, several things we got to
do.
So we said last time we'regoing to talk about this antenna
, do you remember, right?
I had you order me an antenna.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I know about the antenna, I just don't remember
saying what I was going to talkabout last time, oh, yeah, we
did.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
And I said, no, just hold it and we'll talk about it
next time.
Yeah, is that what we did?
Yeah, so we'll make it quick.
I bought an antenna a couple ofyears ago.
It was like a $40 antenna fromWalmart.
It's supposed to have a 50 or60 mile range.

(05:10):
Basically, what it's trying todo is connect to these towers
that you've got.
We've got one in birmingham,tuscaloosa, colma, I think
there's several of them, sowe're borderline right there
with that one.
I've been able to to get it.
Well, it didn't work, couldn'tpick up any challenge or
anything, so we're just like ohwell, so now we're like you.
You know I'm tired of spending$100 a month.
Where is it $100, $110,?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
$95?
No, it's not below $100.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
So it's a little over $100,.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I guess yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So we got Spectrum.
It could be anything, but we'vegot Spectrum.
I'm not dogging Spectrum foranything, even though we started
off bad with them, because theycontract out their help.
When they hooked it up, duderan the cable down the drive and
it wasn't high.
It drug across the top of yourvehicle as you was going up our

(05:51):
driveway and then the FedEx guyripped it out a couple days
later because he didn't know it.
But we won't get into that.
But that started off on the badside On Thanksgiving no, the day
before thanksgiving and you hada supervisor that said, hey,
you're getting, you will have ittoday, no matter what they're
having issue after issuecouldn't get a strong signal and

(06:13):
he gave you his card call me.
What did we do?
We called him and guess what?
He didn't answer.
You know why?
Because it's the evening beforeit's holidays and of course
he's not going to answer.
He just did a nice gesture,giving you a business card, but
he's not answering.
So I found this antenna, like$80, $90, $100 antenna.

(06:35):
It's supposed to have a 200mile range.
I thought, hey, let's try thisout If it don't work you know
how it is with Amazon.
We can send it back Order it,send it back, no big deal, so I
get it Sit on it for a week ortwo.
I finally put it together.
I actually videoed myselfputting it together.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
How long did it take for me to order it?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
A month, yeah, because I didn't want to order
it Three times a week, I'd askhave you ordered it?
Oh yeah, I've got to order that, don't I?

Speaker 2 (07:04):
No, I don't want to order it because it's big.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Oh yeah, so got it, put it together, videoed it.
We have where our originalsatellite was at one time.
We've got a it's like a fencepost, it's a metal, whatever
that's in the ground.
So I actually used it to anchorthis antenna into, because I
didn't want to mount it on thehouse.
I don't want to get up on theside of the chimney and put it

(07:31):
on up there, but if I did, maybewe'd get a ton of channels.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I don't know, maybe I'll do that at a different time
but that's a different storytoo.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
If I do that, we'll talk about it later, oh goodness
.
Put it in there, got under thehouse, ran coax cable
temporarily, didn't do anything.
The right way.
We're just trying to hook thisthing up, get in behind the tv,
hook it up and then go throughthe settings to see what happens
.
You've got to turn it, and Iwas.
I was mad about that, though wehad no information with this

(08:00):
satellite on how you're supposedto point this thing or anything
.
The rca one that I bought, theoriginal one, it had an app that
you went on there and it kindof told you, hey, which
direction?
All that kind of stuff.
So, anyway, I'm outsidepointing this thing, you know,
in like a clear direction.
You're inside seeing what I doand how many channels did it

(08:21):
pick up the first time?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
first time I got 11, 11 it got 11.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
11 channels.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
No news channels.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
No news.
I came inside, we looked atthem Nothing, nothing we wanted.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's like good night, send it back.
Don't want it.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Send it back.
So I repositioned, I went onthe deck, pointed it, and then
we only got like five channels.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh yeah, it went down .

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, it was a better location, a clearer sky, which
I'm really not.
You're not pointing straight atit, I was just pointing, you
know, almost like line of sight.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah, then it went like down to five.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah.
So then I'm like, oh mygoodness.
So I went back to the originalspot.
But then I turned it all theway almost completely the
opposite direction, put it inthere.
It's going through trees, nowno straight shot or anything.
And then we got how manychannels?
16?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
16 or 17.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, so I went in there we looked at them.
We're getting the local ABC,right.
Yeah, you're getting JamesSpann's got a 24-7 channel, yep,
which is crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I know.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
So we're getting several of the local news
channels that you wanted, andthen a bunch of what?
Odds and ends stuff that wewon't watch western channel yeah
but I think we got that free.
Anyway, on our roku stuff yeah,so you, you add the roku free
channels in with it and we'vegot how many channels?
Probably 50 channels yeah, buta lot of those are a lot of them

(09:44):
are old, but they're old.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Shows that, like if I was here by myself, I would
probably sit and watch them yeah, yeah, but this is.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
But you also get like abc new york, abc chicago, abc
los angeles, so you're gettingall these news.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
So we won't ever watch any of that either that's
fine, that's fine but we don'twatch tv a lot anymore.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
That's our point with getting rid of spectrum is
because the only thing that Iand if I ever watch, which is
very seldom, I watch fox news,right yes I don't watch anything
else.
I don't know any channel.
You couldn't tell me where.
Hey, turn it on the hallmarkchannel you know espn I have no
I I can hit that guy and kind ofknow kind of where it's at, but
I don't, I guess.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I don't know the channel number, but I know about
where it's at.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I've never learned them because I don't ever go on
there.
It's because we always doYouTube or Netflix and I'm
always YouTube, yeah, but mainlyNetflix.
All right, long story short,getting back on track.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, so now we've got to find sports channels.
How?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
we're going to get our football.
So the main reason was ifthere's so, if you know how we
can get football channels?

Speaker 2 (10:44):
comment below and let us know, because we tried the
Disney thing and all that andthat never worked.
Disney Plus, or whatever itsaid, you're supposed to be able
to get ESPN.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I can never get it to work.
So Monday we are callingSpectrum doing away with that
and I guess we'll just be boxingup whatever we've got of theirs
.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I guess so.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Send it back, and oh well, so here's the deal We've
got to keep the internet though.
Yeah, so the internet's $60,$70, $80 by itself.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I think it's about $100.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
See, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
We're paying for something and everybody else is
doing the same thing.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
There's no telling how many people out there is,
like you know what, now that Ithink about it, I don't watch
enough tv either to justifyhaving it.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Hey, that's where we watch tv.
We were still on our phonesyeah since we're big into doing
the making videos and stuff likethat.
So half the time he's making avideo, I'm watching a video.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
So yes, since we've got so much little things two
podcasts, a business nail,business stuff like that.
We're now constantly on videoand something.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Never would have thought that about you, because
you used to get on to me forbeing on my show.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
The only thing I did was I got the GoPro.
I got a GoPro a few years agobecause I wanted, hey, I'm going
to do nature stuff.
I like feeding fish, ducks,that kind of thing.
So in the summertime I will beout there, but I will set the
camera down and just whateverhappens happens, and then not
even really edit it when I getit back.

(12:20):
Basically, I'd put it out thereon YouTube, on my channel, and
then that's it.
Wouldn't put any music to it,wouldn't?
edit it or nothing, but now thatwe're doing podcasts and that
kind of thing.
Now I'm trying to figure outhow to edit, add music, all this
kind of stuff and my goodness.
And if you try and do a shortfor like YouTube or whatever,

(12:42):
you're doing something forYouTube.
Hey, now I need to go to TikTokand put it on that, but I got
to change the format or whatever.
You're doing something forYouTube?
Hey, now I need to go to TikTokand put it on that, but I've
got to change the format orwhatever.
And then if you want to doInstagram and all that stuff.
So, yes, it is sotime-consuming that's not
talking editing this thing thatwe're doing right now.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
But you know, it's our little hobby, since we're in
that season of where we don'thave little kids anymore.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, he does his own thing and now we've found
something for us to do, but I'mgonna you know this right now
it's gotten so time consumingand since it's starting to warm
up, it's gonna grass season isright around the corner and all
that stuff I'm yeah, I'm goingto back off some of this editing
or something, because I'llnever be able to get yard work

(13:25):
done, and you know me, I likeyour I don't know if I could
edit and cut the grass at thesame time.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That can cut the grass, but I like it.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
See you always say that.
But I love I know you do.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
But sometimes it'd be all right, no so so anyway.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
So then, uh, so we did all that a week later, which
would have been this Friday,because we were trying to decide
after we did the antenna.
We were trying all right.
Now we've got to decide is itworth keeping the antenna, do we
send it back and maybe just getrid of?
We thought, hey, we'll get ridof Spectrum and try and find
something else cheaper, butanyway.

(14:01):
So we decided we're going tokeep the the antenna.
So I undid all the coax cable,ran everything the right way
through, you know, under thehouse, redid wiring cables, all
this kind of stuff got it justlike it's supposed to be so
that's done so.
Now is it sling.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I think so.
I think, that's what we keepsaying.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
So now we're thinking , hey, in the future, if this
ain't working out?
And we've got a few channels wedidn't realize we watched that.
We really kind of miss thatsling is only like 50 bucks.
Yeah, so it's half so we cansave half.
Instead of going the wholeshebang, at least we're cutting

(14:45):
half of our bill in half, right?
Right, because you're spending?
We're spending way over $1,000a year just on a spectrum that
we really don't use.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
YouTube's free.
I don't think Nicholas everwatches it.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
YouTube's free, unless you did the YouTube TV,
which we did one time.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
That you didn't like that.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I didn't like I think you didn't give it.
Maybe not, but it's.
It's gonna be 80 bucks, it isso not accomplishing anything.
There's, you're getting upthere close, um.
So yeah, we're gonna try thisout.
So, starting after this comesout tomorrow, which is monday,
we'll be going through the firstweek of not having any kind of
uh cable slash satellite tvfirst time in 26 years yeah, so

(15:32):
we'll see how that goes.
I think it'll be fine because,we still got, you know, our
netflix and all that.
So, speaking of netflix andhulu and Paramount and Prime,
and see, we've got all that too.
So if you start adding all thatin with your spectrum, in with
your internet, my goodness.

(15:54):
And then you're paying forthree phones, three and four
phones.
We've got four phones we'repaying for, my goodness, that's
how they get you, they got us.
They got, us, they got youCan't get away from them phones.
Gotta have it.
And then I get an email.
No, it's a text.
This dog I ain't got enoughroom for this dog right here,

(16:14):
but I don't want to mess him up.
Well, I woke him up, poor baby.
Oh my goodness, what was I?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
saying I don't know Anyway.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
What was I saying?
I had a good point.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Did you?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, what did I just end with?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
My goodness, you got to email something.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, that's it.
I got a text from Apple sayinghey, your iPhone is paid for.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh well.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Now you're eligible for an upgrade.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
No, and.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
I'm like I'm doing the Donald Trump dance.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh no don't, don't, do it.
They trying to drag you back in.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
But the thing with that is so if you're going to
get a phone, do you wait and say, hey, let's just wait till the
fall, till the newest one comesout and get it.
But I don't see enough changesin these phones.
I don't either they're alwaysmessing with the camera, and
that's the reason I got it,because I made videos and I
can't tell a difference, yeah,from mine.
So mine is like two or threeyears different than yours,

(17:16):
probably three.
Mine's a.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yours is a.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
It's a Pro Max, 12 Pro Max, and mine's a 16.
Something yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, and I don't see the difference.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
But if we take the same video, put them side by
side.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Sometimes yours is better.
Yeah, I just feel like I've gotsome kind of setting.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But you know, I've noticed too.
It's just like when you usethis audio through this
microphone and then you use thevideo off the phone, I can put
something on, say tiktok, andit's clear as a bell.
Yeah, looks good yeah I go toyoutube and do it.
The sound quality is not thereand the video looks terrible.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yep, because I can video.
I can be on a live on TikTokand it's fine, and even if you
go back and watch the live, it'sfine.
But then if I do a live onFacebook and you post your live,
then it looks grainy, so Idon't know what the difference
is there?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know what the difference is there, I don't
know which.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Now facebook is gonna delete your um videos after 30
days they're not keeping themwhy is that?
I don't know, but yeah, 30 daysno, is it?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
what's it called real ?
Are you talking just the reels?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
or what video alive like okay, you Alive.
Okay, you're going to post.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, I was going to say, if you post a video, say
like of graduation, that's aminute and a half long, surely?
They're not because that's partof your.
I don't know.
No, that's part of your.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Timeline thing.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, if I want to go into somebody's Facebook page
and scroll through and look, Imean, they're not going If
you're posting a video you usedto could choose to delete 30
days or never delete.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
So I always chose never to delete because, well,
in my business, a lot of it waseducational videos, so I wanted
that to stay on my page.
But now you don't have thechoice.
You're deleting after it'sdeleting after 30 days.
So there's that, wow, all right.
So there's that, well, alright.
So we was going to.

(19:20):
You were trying to get us toHulu and Netflix on what we
watched yeah, we're going to gothrough what we've watched here
lately, and is it?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
we've watched two documentaries do you want to do
Gabby?
Sure is it Petito?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
I think that's right yeah, that Is it Petito, I don't
know.
I think that's right.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, Petito, and then her fiance, Brian.
I don't know.
I don't remember his last name,so I'm sure everybody knows.
Back in the news, it's been acouple years now that she went
missing.
She was a.
Are you saying vlogger?
I'm saying vlogger.
Didn't you say blogger?
Are you?

Speaker 2 (19:56):
saying vlogger.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I'm saying vlogger, didn't you say blogger?

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I said blogger, you said B, I'm saying V, but it's a
, b.
Okay, but I thought there was athing as a blogger.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And a vlogger.
So a vlogger is video and ablogger is just audio.
You think yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Vlogger is video.
Yeah, vlogger.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
But a blogger is there a blogger?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
If I'm going to just be doing something and I'm going
to put it on a YouTube channel,am I going to call it?
I'm blogging.
You're just following me, right?
You're subscribing to mychannel and watching me go
through life A blogger issomeone who writes regularly for
an outline journal or website.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
With someone who writes regularly for an outline
journal or website, a politicalblogger might provide weekly
commentary on current events.
A personal blogger keeps awebsite which may include a
diary like entries, photographsand links.
So it's just like, yeah, andthen you go to.
Vlogger is a short video,vloggers is short for video

(21:05):
bloggers.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
You're a blogger, but you're videoing it.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Right, so now you're a vlogger.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So that's what she was doing, yes, what Gabby was
doing, her and her fiance.
They had decided that theybought this small white van and
they were going to basicallycamp and hike and do all that
stuff and travel a little bit,not cross country, but they were
, you know, just in the middleof like a desert type, just

(21:34):
whatever you do if you gocamping, you know, and that's
all they do.
And so she was going to startvideoing and just keeping track
of what they're doing and allthat kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
But he didn't like it .

Speaker 1 (21:51):
You started to see the way the documentary showed
was there's a little bit of ariff, I guess, since they were
spending so much time togetherand there's no time apart, they
weren't married yet together andthere's no time apart, they
weren't married yet, which is, Imean, it might have been
different if they were married.
And doing this because you'rekind of prepared for that right
being together every day maybe,but you started to see a little
bit of pressure.
He, he wasn't into it and she'strying to do the best she can.

(22:13):
So if she's trying to make aliving, out of it.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
She was trying to get this built up, so when she
started her page she's trying tomake a living out of it.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
She was trying to get this built up so when she
started her page she could getthis following and uh, yeah, he
just wasn't in on it and I thinkkind of made fun of her, some
of the stuff like that.
But she's really trying.
So anyway, she ends up goingmissing.
He ends up he's back home withhis parents and now they're

(22:37):
trying to find her.
The cops go to his house wherehis parents are asking questions
and the parents all of a suddenare like you can talk to our
lawyer.
More or less words, but thatwas included.
They're not answering anyquestions and they do say, hey,
you can talk to our lawyer.
So then that's like red flag,red flag.
What's up with this?
Your son's come home, gabby'sdisappeared, we're trying to

(23:02):
find Gabby and the van and allthis stuff, and your first thing
out of your mouth is talk toour lawyer.
Guilty right.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right, you think.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, right, so you think yeah.
So eventually you know he, hegoes uh hiking out on his own,
goes missing.
He's missing for a while.
They find him dead.
He he'd uh.
So the parents in jail no, butthey should be because they

(23:35):
found they were, because theyfound a note and the mom had
wrote something about, even ifjust trying to protect him,
that's what it was all aboutthey're trying to protect him
they found a note how far do yougo to protect?
she said something like even ifit takes me getting a shovel and
burying her or something alongthat line, but a shovel she
wrote something about if ittakes me using a shovel,

(23:57):
something like that, and it'slike my goodness.
So they knew.
There's no question now,whatever excuse that he might
have not have told her hisparents the truth.
He might have said hey, we'reout hiking.
She fell.
I got scared, thinking thatthey might blame me for it, and
I took her out and buried her.
You know he might have toldthem that and then they're like

(24:20):
which?
then they should have been likeokay, we're getting a lawyer,
but we're going you know, to thepolice because you've got to
tell them, but instead I thinkthey're more like okay, we'll
get a lawyer, keep your mouthshut, and we're going to do
whatever it takes to keep thishush-hush and cover your tracks.
That's what it seemed like theywere doing.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
So poor girl man, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
You just never know.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah.
You just never know, but it waslike a four-part series.
Was it Hulu?
No, it was Netflix, that was onNetflix.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
That one was Netflix.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
yeah, They've got one on Hulu, but I think it's a one
episode, but it's going to bethe same thing.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh, yeah, yeah about that.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, but it was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Actually, when I looked at it, it was older.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Oh was it.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It was an older one, I think it said 22.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Is that right?
No, because it ain't been thatlong, has it?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
She was killed two or three years ago.
Okay, so yeah.
And another one we watched wasDevil in the Family, isn't that
right?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
And it's a.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Ruby Frank.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Ruby Frank.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's a mom Vlogger.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Is she considered a vlogger?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
She started as a blogger, okay, I think.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Did they ever say what platform she was mainly on?
I don't think they did.
Was she YouTube?

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
It wouldn't be TikTok , because this is just a yeah, I
don't.
Tiktok hadn't really taken offthe last two years right.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
TikTok's been out since COVID.
Okay, well, yeah, off the lasttwo years, right?
Tiktok's been out since covid.
Okay, well, yeah, that's whenpeople started getting hot and
heavy on tiktok because you'dhave nothing else to do yeah, so
but with her was this rightabout that time or right before,
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
I don't remember the dates on that yeah, I don't
remember that.
So she got to where she wantedto start videoing her family and
then it got to where, basically, she had her phone out videoing
.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
She was obsessed with it.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Everything Everybody was doing and expected everybody
to be on cue, have a smile ontheir face, say what they're
supposed to say.
It got to where it wasbasically staged it got to where
it was basically staged.
Yeah, you know and you know ifshe didn't like the way you
looked or the way your smiledidn't look right or whatever,
she was getting on to the kidsand you're going to do it again.

(26:47):
And it just got worse.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And she put that video out there.
That's what I don't understand.
Like, if you're getting, if I'mgetting on to my kid, remember,
I'm gonna cut that part out ofthe video right I'm not gonna
put that out.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I don't want you to say that I'm getting on to my
kids well, that was severalyears in the two oldest yeah, at
first they all started out, itwas fine but two of the oldest
kids that once they becameteenagers, all of them had
finally gotten, hey, we're donewith this, we're tired, we don't
want to do this, we just wantto live life.
If we go on vacation, we wantto do stuff and enjoy it, not be

(27:22):
scripted on what we're supposedto say and what we're doing,
looking like a happy, happyfamily, um.
But so when the kids got older,they were like you know, we're
done with it.
And so she turns on the oldestboy and sends him they meet.
She finds this psychologistwhich she really wasn't a

(27:48):
psychologist named Jody, andbasically goes to one of her
little seminars or whatever andjust really eats this up and
then starts this long process oflike almost like retraining her
husband and her son.
It was like they were justagainst men.
It seemed like yeah, totally sothen the dad gets brainwashed,
somehow, falls into this trap ofwhere he needs to be.

(28:10):
What's the word I'm looking for?
Reprogrammed?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
yeah, like for the most part so to me it's totally
backwards like you're supposedto follow the husband if you're,
you know bible or whatever youknow and they were in the.
They were in the church church,but not right yeah or well, and

(28:36):
our what we feel is right.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
They believe a little bit different yeah, they did
believe different.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
So I mean, like to us the husband is here and then,
damn well, it's the lord right,and so that's what took me, like
you're not going to follow me,like that or whatever.

(29:03):
Like the way we do it, you know, I follow what you're going to
do and not I mean now you'll dowhat I want to do.
But I'm saying, like, in thatsense, I just don't feel like
there's a way that I couldbrainwash you.

(29:24):
I can talk you into doing somethings, but you're going to
stand your ground when it comesto something like that.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
So, and the point you're getting to is that he
gets forced out of the house.
Yes, he's moved into anapartment and she's telling him
that once I call you, once Icommunicate back with you, that
will be your.
Okay, you can come back home toyour family right and so he
leaves, stays in his apartment,has no contact with anybody no

(29:57):
friends, no, nothing.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
And like he.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
He doesn't attempt to try and even call them or
anything.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
He barely goes out, he just he becomes a hermit.
I actually think it saidsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Like he becomes a hermit and I don't know.
I just don't get it.
I don't get how, how don't getit.
I don't get how you can do that.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I just feel like I would stand my ground or you
would stand your ground.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah.
So then the oldest boy that'sin college at this point tries
to get a hold of his dad becauseof a situation we'll talk about
in a second, and the daddoesn't even answer.
Now this is the son talking onthis part of he's being
interviewed and then he says,right after he tried to call him
, his dad didn't answer, andthen he saw where he was blocked

(30:47):
his dad blocked his number.
And I'm like what is up withthat?
You haven't heard from your son, or nobody in over a year.
He's now trying to call you.
Maybe something's up, maybe hejust finally wants to say hey,
you know.
And shouldn't he be like, hey,this has long gone on, long
enough yeah, I'm gonna talk tomy kids.
I mean, you guys stand yourground but this is because of

(31:10):
what happened was now they'refinding out that the two
youngest kids how many many kidsis it?
Is it six?

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I'm pretty sure there was six.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Two of them is living with Jody, the so-called
psychologist, and Ruby Ruby,because Ruby's moved out of the
house.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Jody owns like a compound.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yeah, she's made all kinds of money apparently from
her little seminars.
And then the two oldest are offto different colleges and then
the two middle-aged ones are attheir friend's house.
Yeah, but their regular house isabout to sell, I guess.
But anyway they're at theirfriend's house.
So anyway, this youngest boythat's staying at Jody's house

(31:53):
knocks on the person's door,actually hits their ring
doorbell, and they've got videofootage of this and they've got
his face blocked out, of course,so you can't see him.
An older man comes out thereand he's like the kid's, like
can you do me a favor and notifythe police?
And the guy goes out there andstarts talking to him.
Long story short, he's got ducttape around his ankles and

(32:14):
around his wrists.
He's got duct tape around hisankles and around his wrists.
He's escaped from this lady'shouse where they basically kept
him in captivity in a room inlike a safe room that's like
down in the basement, and he'smalnourished, he's skinny,
there's a rail, all this kind ofstuff.

(32:35):
So they go, you know, once allthis is done, the police go over
to do a wellness check on thatother kid and they're going in
to find his sister.
And they go in and they'relooking and looking.
They finally find her and she'sabout the same thing and she's
scared to death.
But then when they go down inthe basement, in this little

(32:55):
safe place spot.
There is a safe.
It looks like a big gun cabinetbuilt into the wall and it just
so happens they guessed thecombination and they, when they
opened it up and went in there,it was like a, a common
combination too.
Yeah, it was one, two, three,four, five, six, yeah, something
like that.
How?

(33:16):
Crazy yeah, because she wasn'tgiving out the combination.
So when they opened it up, it'sjust a room and it's a bathroom
, it's got cabinets and all thiskind of stuff.
But that's where they foundgalls and bloody rags and stuff,
where they've cleaned his wombsaround his wrist from where
they've been doing this for solong.

(33:38):
That's horrible so and going andand going back to this.
So the mom ruby she has, she'sbeen apparently brainwashed to
believe that her kids, those twoyoungest kids, were possessed
or that they were demons, and ifit took killing them, that's
what she was going to do to getthe demons out of them.

(34:00):
And then they said, like theyoungest boy, he would have to
stay out in the hot sun on atrampoline Hours and, like, jump
on the trampoline for hours orgo over here and stand for hours
or do this or whatever.
It is Just crazy stuff, crazy.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Now that I think about it, I wonder if this is
the only family she did that to,I mean because they're both in
jail now.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, I bet that Nobody took it this far.
Well, you know how you can geta following.
Yeah, you go back to likeCharles Manson and all that
stuff.
Now when Charles Manson drugswere involved Right, you had
some of the people that was inhis little group were average
people.
Once they got on these drugsand stuff, that's when they
turned crazy and started falling.

(34:47):
So I'm not saying drugs was apart of this I'm just saying is
this jody person?
she had an influence over allthese people, but you will have
those one or two that might havemore of an influence over, and
that's what this well, at onetime didn't the kids or the dad
or something, say that you wouldthink they had a relationship
going on?
Maybe, so that's what I Ithought it was women.

(35:09):
I thought it was gonna, Ithought it was leading down that
path and I think probably soI'm pretty sure that the older
kids said something about that.
They acted just like they had arelationship going on yeah so I
don't know, I can see that Imean that's, that's the
impression I got they neveractually.
Yeah, yeah it never came outthat they were a couple but you

(35:31):
saw them having fun together andstuff right and then they moved
in together, yeah.
So I mean yeah, but it was justcrazy, I don't know but we like
documentaries.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, or I don't know , is that a documentary really?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
that's not well, I mean kind of just yeah, you can
call it that so that's whatwe've been doing so devil in the
family when we find time towatch it after.
We just said we don't watchmuch tv it's american murder,
the gabby Petito story onNetflix and then Devil in the
Family that's on Hulu.
So it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
It's something to watch.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
But then the dad still says that he loves his
wife, even though she did allthis to him and to his kids.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I just can't get over how a dad would say that but he
is getting a divorce from hernow right.
At the end it said he wasgetting a divorce.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
He filed for divorce.
Yeah, that's good.
I guess, Well, I would think so.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I would have thought you'd already done it.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It's hard to.
How do you trust someone again,when they're attempting to
slowly kill?
Killing your kids is bad enough, but this, right here, you're
slowly killing these two kidsright by not feeding them and
putting them in this, you know,of course.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I can't imagine, yeah , so alright but I don't know
what's up.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
We've got a few other things on our radar to watch.
I don't remember the names ofthem now, but we go.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
It takes us a little while to watch them yep, I don't
remember the names of them now,but we go flipping.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
It takes us a little while to watch them.
Yeah, but that's it.
Anything else Now we?

Speaker 2 (37:04):
probably won't watch with the daylight savings time
that you love so much.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I know.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
You'll be outside, I know.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
We'll be popping from the carpet, but I'm just messed
up just today, like you get upand you know it's like I don't
feel like it bothered me.
Yeah, it did me a little bit.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I don't know Anyway.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
It will this evening, when it's still daylight
outside.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah, it'll be different and it's 6 o'clock,
right.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
You know, and then it'll keep getting longer.
Days will get longer and longerand longer.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So Maybe we can kayak this summer and we'll have them
some videos of kayaking.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, so if you'll keep an eye on our TikTok, this,
that and other we'll, we'llstart putting just regular
videos.
We're doing all this, you know,kind of like flea market type
stuff too.
And we've got just little oddsand end videos that we do.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
If you have a suggestion of flea markets or
antique stores or whatever, likewell, y'all don't know where we
live, but I'm not going too far.
I can't get him to go too far.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
We need to go back to Scottsboro to.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, we do need to go there.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Unclaimed baggage.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
We haven't been there in about a year we could go
there.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
That's a once a year spot, once or twice.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Sometimes we go twice , once in the spring and once in
the winter or fall, somethinglike that.
Yeah, don't go when they have aski sale, though.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, whatever day that was, that might be this
time.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Actually this time of year.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
I don't think so.
No, because it's summer.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
They were going right there at the fall, was it not
when the ski sale started, whenthe sale?
Oh well, yeah, maybe, maybe itwas later october-ish.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, maybe, I can't remember anyway, because I don't
think we told that story.
It's like we we decided to gothere yeah, our first time right
.
So we got there and so there'sfood trucks.
So you're just in a town, justa regular small town, and of
course you're gonna have like astore, and this is what this is
a big store.
So you're around the corner andeverything, and all of a sudden
you see food trucks and thenyou see like all these cars and

(39:10):
then you see like flagmen likewaving you into these parking
lot behind the store, and thenyou see golf carts where they're
taking people to the front doorand I'm like goodness, this
place does some business.
So we get there, we park.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
But we haven't told them what unclaimed baggage is.
Some people may not know whatthat is.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
We'll get to it in a second.
How about that?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Or the next episode?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
No, let's just finish this and then we can talk about
it.
So we got parked.
The guy tells us you know whereto park, pulls us in, we get
out, there's a golf cart thatcomes and picks us up.
So we're riding with him up tothe front door and he said Sarah
, y'all here for the ski sale.
And in my mind I'm like excuseme, because I didn't know what

(39:54):
that meant.
Yeah, I thought I'm like am Imisunderstanding?
Is that one word you know whatletters?
Is that Ski sale?
I don't know what that is, notknowing that this is the busiest
day of the year for them whenthey have a ski sale, meaning
cold weather, skiing right, allthe peril and all that kind of

(40:17):
stuff.
So everybody and their brotherapparently comes out on that day
.
So the first time we want to goto there is the day that they
have the sale.
And, my goodness, it was bumperto bumper inside, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
yeah, it was, so you could not hardly move it, but
the next time we went, it was oh, it was fine.
Yeah, it's been several times.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah just don't go on that day.
Yeah, all right, we got to getout of here.
Yeah, check us out on TikTok,on Facebook, instagram, youtube
If you want to see these videos.
I think this video that we'revideoing right now, I think it
ended again.
I don't think I've got, butlike 13 minutes into this and
the video ended.
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Maybe you'll get a video.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Maybe you'll get a video.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Maybe you won't, maybe we'll just make a video If
you're wanting to you, think Ican get him to dance in a TikTok
video, maybe so If they followus, we could do a funny
challenge video.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Some kind of video out there maybe.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
So my point being is like we're talking this up to go
to YouTube and watch this video.
So if you're listening to this,then you're going to go there.
Don't get too excited, becauseI don't know exactly how much of
this episode got recorded.
We'll release how much got inthere, but it's not going to be
the full thing.
So, all right, we appreciateyou.
You got anything else?
No, sir.
All right, appreciate youlistening and we'll see you next

(41:34):
time.
See ya, bye.
I don't know what I was saying.
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