This vs. That

This vs. That

A podcast where we have conversations that explore what we think and why we think it.


May 8, 2024 30 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we discuss the upcoming auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Women's Conference. This special event is held in partnership with Anchored Hope and Fieldstone Counseling, two organizations that share a common goal of providing quality, gospel-centered counseling.

In this episode we’ll look at the origins of this collaboration, the benefits of joint efforts, and our shared passion for helping ...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Dr. Russell Moore, the editor in chief of Christianity Today and author of the book Losing Our Religion: an Altercall for Evangelical America.

We discuss a variety of topics, from the current state of politics and its impact on the church, to the personal struggles individuals face within this politically charged environment.

We also explore the concept of political engagement versus...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Dani Treweek.

Joining us from Sydney, Australia, Dani is a renowned Christian theological researcher, author, speaker, and the founding director of Single Minded Ministry. We discuss her work, which focuses on exploring God's purposes for singleness and equipping Christians.

Throughout our discussion, we touch on the intricacies of singleness...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Tim Challies. Our conversation centers around the challenging and deeply personal topic of grieving with hope versus grieving without hope.

We explore how Tim's faith shaped his response to loss, the role of lament in the grieving process, and how to navigate the difficult balance between accepting God's decree and dealing with personal sorrow.

This episode is an insightful jou...

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March 20, 2024 52 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with with Mark Vroegop about the concepts of frustration and anger. We explore how these emotions are often intertwined, and how they can be both righteous and unrighteous.

Mark shares his experiences at College Park Church in Indianapolis and also provides a glimpse into his personal life. We examine the complexities of these emotions in the context of our faith and our responses to a wor...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we have an enriching conversation with John Starke about the importance of balancing talking and listening in prayer. John shares valuable insights from his book, The Possibility of Prayer, and highlights the transformative power of stillness.

As we explore the challenges many Christians face with prayer, John explains the significance of allowing our anxieties and guilt to rise to the surface and...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome back Jonathan Holmes, executive director at Fieldstone Counseling. Together, we explore the complex topic of humility versus self-loathing. We examine how these two concepts can often be confused and how this issue frequently arises in counseling.

Jonathan offers insightful responses to challenging questions about self-esteem, self-care, and humility, allowing us to comprehend the nuanc...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we have a fascinating conversation with Dave Harvey, the president of Great Commission Collective and the author of several books on marriage.

We discuss the differences between normal and critical conflicts in marriage and how to navigate them. During our chat, Dave shares his insights on the importance of humility and clarity in resolving conflicts. We also explore how our understanding of confl...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the topic of Authoritarian vs. Authoritative Parenting. Join us in this conversation with Julie Lowe, a counselor and faculty member at CCEF, as she shares her insights on the distinction between these two parenting styles. ⁠

We explore the importance of understanding the root motivations behind our parenting choices and how they impact our children. Discover how embracing a gospel-cente...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into a deep discussion with Elyse Fitzpatrick about the topic of Self-Confidence vs. Confidence in Christ.

Join us as we explore the subtle ways the gospel of self-confidence infiltrates our lives and how we can root our confidence in Christ. Elyse shares her personal journey and insights on understanding our strengths, the freedom found in failure, and the importance of continually turnin...

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February 7, 2024 49 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we have a fascinating discussion with Dr. Mac Brunson about the topic of wisdom versus knowledge. Dr. Brunson shares his personal journey and experiences in ministry, highlighting the importance of understanding the distinction between wisdom and knowledge. Throughout the conversation, we explore the definitions of wisdom and knowledge, and how they intersect in our lives. Dr. Brunson emphasizes th...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Dr. Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

Join us as discuss the topic of cultural engagement versus avoiding culture, exploring how Christians can maintain their integrity while actively engaging with the world around them.

Dr. Mohler shares his insights on the value of respectful conversations, even with those w...

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November 29, 2023 53 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we’ll be talking with Paul Tautges. Join us as we dive into a meaningful conversation on panic versus fear. Paul's personal experiences and insights shed light on the importance of addressing these emotions and finding God's peace in the midst of them. We explore the physical and emotional aspects of panic and anxiety, and discuss the distinction between healthy and harmful fear. Tune in to...

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November 22, 2023 57 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Darby Strickland, a counselor who works with the Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation (CCEF).

We explore the important topic of harshness versus abuse in relationships. Together, we discuss the dynamics of abusive relationships and the challenges in recognizing and addressing abuse. Join us as we explore the crucial issue of understanding and supporting victims of abuse...

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November 15, 2023 51 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we have Jamie Ivey as our special guest. Jamie is the creator and host of the popular podcast The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey, where we gather all kinds of people to talk about life and Jesus. Jamie is not only an accomplished podcaster but also an author of several books and a worship pastor's wife.

In our conversation, we dive deep into the topic of self kingdom versus God's kingdom. We ex...

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November 8, 2023 50 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we are joined by Walter Shaw, a prolific reader and book reviewer who runs the WTS Reads account on Instagram.

In our conversation with Walter, we explore the topic of readers versus non-readers and delve into the value of reading good books in our hyper-stimulated, fast-paced online culture. We discuss how reading shapes our minds and hearts, its role in our growth as Christians, and how to incorp...

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November 1, 2023 60 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we are joined by Dr. Curtis Solomon, the executive director of the Biblical Counseling Coalition and author of I Have PTSD: Reorienting After Trauma. We delve into a thought-provoking discussion about Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) versus everyday stress. We explore the importance of understanding these concepts, especially in today's fast-paced and information-heavy world. Dr. Curtis sh...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we are joined by our friend Christine Chappell. We have a heartfelt conversation with Christine about the important topic of sadness versus depression. Together, we explore how to discern the difference between ordinary experiences of sadness and the overwhelming darkness of depression.

Christine shares her personal journey of being treated for bipolar disorder, depression, panic attacks, and suic...

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On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into a fascinating conversation with Ryan Ross, the pastor at City Church in Melissa, Texas. In this episode, we explore the dynamic between a pastor as a friend versus a pastor as an authority. Ryan shares his insights and experiences in navigating these roles within his congregation. We discuss the importance of friendship in the church, the challenges of balancing authority and friendshi...

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October 11, 2023 45 mins

On this episode of This vs. That, we dive into a thought-provoking conversation about authenticity versus oversharing with special guest Jen Wilkin.

Join us as we explore the delicate balance between being open and honest and crossing the line into oversharing.

Jen, an author and Bible teacher, shares her insights on why truth matters to believers and how our motives can affect our sharing habits. We also discuss the importance o...

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