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(00:01):
Hey, what's going on, everybody?Welcome to another episode of
Talk Your Talk podcast. We got a couple of topics here.
We got a few rest in pieces thathappened this week, man, tragic
weed for the entertainment business.
And we got some things coming upwith Nicki Minaj.
Nicki Minaj against everybody. Shannon Sharpe, did he settle

(00:22):
the lawsuit or what? Well know how much, but I think
it did Beyoncé fouls and and videos and and all this stuff
was stolen during her ATL concert.
We're going to talk a little bitmore about that.
Jay-Z lawsuits for lost child. We're going to give you more

(00:43):
news on that as well. And YSL might not be completely
out of the courtrooms yet. Might not be Martin Luther King
Fowles was released to the public.
See what people are saying out there about that.
And Rick Ross, man, you know, some people think he was out

(01:04):
there kissing him, man. We're going to get more into
that right after this. The views and opinions expressed
on the This Is Mac Network are those of the hosts and guests
and do not necessarily reflect the views of any affiliated
organizations. Listener discretion is advised.
Thank you for listening. Hey, on the On the Pop podcast,

(01:58):
what's happening? What's good?
Is it just me? You just what's going on, man?
What the fuck was that the fuck with *** We ain't doing nothing
in two weeks. God, I was saying so much.

(02:22):
Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time ever in history, we
about to start this motherfuckerover.
I I apologize. We got heard this over y'all.
This is just this is just horrible man.
Hold on let. It was, man.
DJ, can you please run that backnow?

(02:45):
We're going to be a little bit more hyper, you know, I'm just.
Talking, I don't we're. Going to come in and you
chilling with Jed and that part.Come on.
And then I hit the horns right about here.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome toanother episode of Talk Your
Talk podcast. I'm your host Mack, and I'm here

(03:09):
with the boy. Terry, what's happening?
What's good with you, man? It's been a minute.
Oh, for like forever, man. That was I guess.

(03:31):
What the hell, Sir? Hey, we tried y'all.
We tried. Sound like he just sat up and
started talking now, that's all.He didn't, he didn't switches
it, you know. Sound like you were slumped at
first on the first one, just laying on your side.
Didn't sound like you sat. On your ass this time you look.

(03:54):
Hey, hey, what's up? Oh wow.
Sir, I was clearing my throat the first time.
Sir, clearing this throat was not ready.
We were on air clearing this throat.
No, that's what it was. I was.
I had it on mute while I was clearing my throat and we
happened to come in Sir. That's just ridiculous.
This. This, Sir.
Give me a little leeway, God. That that's what you get, you

(04:18):
know, diplomatic immunity, that's what you get.
You know, I'm, I swear. There you go.
People ask me how I do it. They ask me how do you work with
him, Man, this is how. This is how.
You just got to let him go, you know?
Crazy. What episode is this?
Man? This is 87. 87 man.

(04:39):
Oh man, you might be lying too. We 87 bro 87 we talk.
Let me talk. Let me talk like the youngest.
We 87 bro. As a younger, because they said
bro, we've been, we've been saying.
Bro yeah, but I'm going to say it like them 87 bro.

(05:02):
So welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Is that your Ray J? You doing Ray J again?
I said all right, gang. Well Dang, that that did sound
like rage. All your shit sound like how you
said Ray J, Kanye Ray J, what else you was doing?
It just sounded crazy. But anyway, y'all welcome back.
It has been a while. We got a few things to talk

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about. First of all, we want to say to
Ozzy Osbourne, to Malcolm Jamal Warner and also to The
Incredible Hulk Hogan, we want to say rest in peace to those 3

(05:48):
gentlemen and anybody else who'spassed away this week or before
this date, we want to say rest in peace.
On behalf of this is Mac NetworkTalk, Your Talk podcast, all
this even Monday night podcast, we want to send out condolences.
We will get a little more into the Hulk Hogan situation on

(06:11):
Monday. So y'all hold on there.
I know y'all probably like, hey,I wonder what we might pitch in
a little bit here and there on this show but Monday for our
wrestling podcast with me. And Kane's gonna go a little bit
deeper into that. But this Malcolm Jamal Warner,
man, oh God, man, oh man. Damn, I can't even look at, I

(06:35):
can't even look at the tributes and the videos, man.
It's just too heartbreaking, man.
Damn, man, I said. Not man, you know that one.
Person. You know that one person that
every parent go, not him. That was me for you.
Man, I. Said no because you you don't.

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And the first thing that came tomind, he was a from my
understanding, he was a good guy, a good human being.
You know, he had the kids, he was taking care of the kids.
He wanted a minute of drama. You never heard him talk about
going broke or he wasn't, no. Drug abuse.
No drug abuse. None of that.

(07:19):
None of that. Did beat his wife or?
Not like, not like fucking Carl.Not like Carl, not Carl, not
like Eddie Winslow. Eddie Winslow.
You see his fucking mug shot every.
If Eddie dies today, you know, it'll be sad, but it'll be like,
well, you know, you know, Yeah, He was, he was in a bunch of

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shit. I, I can see something happen
to. But this man, you know, this
hurts. Oh boy, boy, boy.
It really does, man. This, this, I can't even really
look at it. Every time I see a a Cosby clip
or something now with Theo and I'm like, yeah, I can't even
call him Malcolm Jamal. I'm just, I'll just be called

(08:00):
him Theo the whole time, man. Yeah, I'm like, this is crazy,
man. Yeah, and he, like I said, he
wasn't, you know, ill or not to my knowledge ill or had any type
of mental issues. It it was an accident, you know,
and, and Costa Rica, it it was an accident.

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You know, he was in there swimming with his daughters and,
you know, it had a sign up therethat there's high risk of, you
know, drowning. You know, we probably a year
ago, maybe a little less than a year ago, we lost a professional
wrestler, Shad, from actually saving his son.

(08:48):
I forget exactly where they were, but the water.
In the ocean. The the the water took them
under, you know, and and those. People don't believe those
currents. Yeah, those currents will do you
bad, man. Yeah, those waves, you think it
feel good? You just floating and shit.
It's like, no, no waves. Depending on how the the the

(09:09):
shit is moving, that shit will push you further away from
shore. Yeah, and unwaved.
Waves in a lake or a pond or some shit to fuck you up and it
would a good wind. So just imagine just being in
the ocean with just waves crashing down on you one after
another maybe. Yeah, that's crazy.
Rest in peace Malcolm Jamal Warner.

(09:33):
Man, that definitely hit hard and I didn't mean to be so harsh
on Eddie Winslow, but y'all gaveit a comparison.
You get the fucking comparison, you know, you don't hear.
Look, look, you know who else isa good guy?
Lamont Sanford, OK? You don't hear him.
You don't hear him in the news and struggling and broke and on

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drugs and all that type of stuff.
Man, shout out to the to the good, the fucking good people
from off the screen, man who who's still doing good and well
alive. No bad stories about them.
Yeah, you know, you know, Austintwins was in fucking in the news

(10:18):
about shit before, you know, butnot these guys, man, Not these
guys. So yeah, shout out to them, man.
And like I said, Ozzy Osbourne and his family, may they well,
may he rest in peace, man. And then people keep tying it
up. I'm seeing so many theories and
stuff about this. It's just.
Yeah, you know, they, they, theyalready trying to say, you know,

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he had a video where he was exposing people and all that
shit. And I'm like, come on.
And then he got this video, thenthat whole it come in threes
thing and it came in threes and it's like, fuck.
Yeah, this has been a bad week. A bad week and definitely a bad

(11:02):
week for my ears when it come tothe one and only Nicki Minaj.
This this this. I mean, you can't even.
I don't. Know what to?
Say about this, that's a CD, ***It's.
Like, just like this, she's got me discombobulated with this

(11:24):
type of man. It's kind of like what it's like
out of nowhere. But at the same time you you see
where it's aimed at everybody that has an association with
Kendrick Lamar almost she has a problem.
Yeah, she is going at Scissor and from what her and Scissor
going through, Scissor tweeted out some stuff that was

(11:46):
referencing to someone else, youknow, in the TDE family and
stuff like that. And Nicki Minaj thought she was
taking a shot at her and had to say some shit.
It's like, wait a minute. You just waiting to say
something. Is she broke?
I really want to ask is she broke?

(12:08):
Is she going broke? Is her baby daddy asking for
money? Like what is going on?
What does he do for a living? Because this ain't the way for
the queen. He's supposed to be the queen.
This ain't the way for the queento act on Twitter and social

(12:30):
media. I was inside of 40 plus man.
I was inside of her. Damn, she 40 plus shit, I
thought she was about 30. I I don't maybe she is, but I I
was listening to her last night when she was talking to her
Barb's. I was undercover Barb last
night. All right.
I was like, let me see what she talking about.

(12:51):
Let me go in as a undercover Barb.
So as I'm listening it, it was times when she just was talking,
then she just stopped and then she'll pick right up where she
left off at, but she would just stop for like 10 seconds and
that's that's a long time for someone to be talking and then

(13:13):
just stop halfway through those.Ticks.
She got something. It's that pink cocaine, I'm
telling you. Allegedly.
Motherfucker. Cheesecake, allegedly, that's
what it is, not the cheesecake. Was that your I'm on star?
Was that your Kanye act? Never mind, Never mind.

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So it was just kind of weird, you know, but.
Tourette's is real with her man.I don't know what the fuck is
going on, but she needs some help.
She keep throwing out Jay-Z name, she keep trying to attack
them. She I guess they're planning a
boycott and I, I think this is something to do with her and the

(13:58):
barbs maybe. Let me tell you.
Let me tell you something, *** From what I'm understanding,
allegedly. Well, this is this is what I got
out of her little chat last night, that she is planning to
boycott a specific person that their name is under the board of

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the brand. So if you got a, a piece of, you
know, investment in this company, we're boycotting it no
matter what it is. Oh, you sell this from this
clothing line? You got something new?
Oh, we're boycotting it. Oh, you going to you?
You got this liquor? Oh, we're not drinking that.

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Let me explain something to you.Nicki Minaj.
Yes, I'm gonna call you Nicki Minaj.
Let me explain something to you.See, *** always hated Hove, but
they hated him so much 'cause hewas so fucking cool with it.
So more fuckers that he didn't like was still drinking.

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Do say why 'cause that's the shit.
It never was the shit because the barbs was talking about it.
And you can barely sell your ownshit.
Your clothing line and perfumes and shit ain't doing big
numbers. You ain't doing Reed numbers,

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but Reed's doing Reed numbers. You know why?
Who you think been coaching her the whole time?
Stop hating on it dude. Man these barbs are not going to
be even if they do boycott. You think that's going to put a
dent in her in his fucking pockets?

(15:52):
Because only the crazy ones is going to do what you talking
about? Only the ones who believe in
Roman. Them ones right there.
Delusional people. Yeah, your fans, who them ones?
Those are the ones we're going to boycott and they not even
going to understand the whole purpose of it.

(16:13):
They're just not going to do. I just don't like it because.
That's that's all they're going to fucking do.
Stop trying to take out for Lil Wayne.
He's a grown man he can take outfor.
Herself at this point, at this point, at this point, I don't
think he had nothing to do with Wayne.

(16:35):
I thought that was just the the crack of the door opening a
little bit more. Yeah, that's.
All that was, I don't think it has a it has something to do
with her and she needs to drop this album and she need as much
gas as she can possibly get because she kept saying, oh,
when this album drive, Oh my God, that's all she's talking

(16:56):
about. So yeah.
And my whole thing is you're going to set up a boycott to
boycott Allegedly. Allegedly.
Yeah, allegedly. Why don't you use that energy
and boycott things that we don'tneed in this world?

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Like racism. I think she owed taxes too.
She needs some money. She's trying not to end up like,
you know. Who the dash?
Which we got him coming up lateron in the show too.
Oh, anyway, Nicki Minaj, man, just, you know, it's a better

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way of this. Shut up.
It's a better way of doing things.
Yeah. Just just drop the album and
actually compete with the femaleartist today.
I bet this that's all you. Need Drake.
I bet this album got Drake Wayne.
She got the hot boys back on that back.
I bet she got back on this motherfucker.
Don't make the mistake, don't make the mistake Lil Wayne did
and then put Young Money on on this Carter 6.

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She she got Lil' Kim on there. What?
Nikki and Kim on the same track.Oh, shit.
But yeah, anyway, so I'm, I'm just done with Nikki right now.
So Shannon Sharp settles in the $50 million lawsuit for
undisclosed, you know, amount. So the young lady that fouled

(18:29):
this as a report and then turnedinto a lawsuit, she says she's
basically done with only fans. I bet you are picture.
That. You didn't got your your black
man retirement plan going there.Dang, she did.

(18:50):
So yeah, it worked. It certainly did.
You real chanted Sharp's dumb ass in, Yeah?
Which people still think is gay.So I don't know what what was
Shannon Sharpe playing in the beginning?
Because with that I don't know man Unk style unk that what

(19:14):
y'all call them? Man that was phrase in them
called unk unk in them. He's starting to look real weird
now. He's starting to look weird like
a grown man with them glasses, with them glasses on and shit
now. He's starting to look weird to
me now with all these accusations, people.
Say, yeah, he only seen that picture he had where they where

(19:36):
they caught him standing a certain one.
Not even not even just that, butthen with the whole Michelle.
Oh yeah, Michelle, take that a day.
Take that a day, Michelle, that *** country, old ass country.
Fucking *** Yeah. And it sounded perverting.
It sounded perverting. I can tell a woman.

(19:57):
Sorry anyway, but yeah. Love to Michelle.
She's good though. She's good.
And then they got some allegedlysome recording to him talking to
that stylist that he used to walk around with that, you know,
clearly you can see he's gay. But I'm going to say allegedly
everyone's think he's gay and I forgot his name.

(20:19):
I think it's Sean, but I don't want to say it is Sean.
I don't think it was reported. It's AI.
Somebody allegedly, allegedly isAI or something like that.
But yeah, what you going to do with this?
What you going to do with? Janis Sharp Speaking of that,
though, I hope, I think Shannon Sharp should at least spent that
money and fought this because what they.

(20:41):
Going to do with this. I think he had a chance to win.
People settling, they settling with this.
I'll show you what they sell, man.
Just come over here. He should.
Just take, he said. Because I would rather pay $20

(21:02):
million to my lawyer than pay somebody.
I'd rather pay $20 million that don't deserve it.
Yeah. So, you know, that's, that's
crazy. I think Michelle deserved this.
She deserved all that. I'm just, that's all I'm going
to say. That's all I'm going to say is
skill, skill, money, skill. That's all I'm saying.
I think she should. King James, Lakers in five, the

(21:32):
shop said We'll settle in five. It took five weeks.
We settled that motherfucker, didn't it?
Oh shit. Hey, you did what you had to do,
man. Hopefully things start coming
back around. He needs to lay low or come out
or something. All right, come out of what?
I don't know oh if he is gay he needs to just let everybody know

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now the Internet just running right.
Everybody know the the rumors y'all been hearing is true.
It is true. I the only person I have a total
skip. Skip the only person to know.
I want to thank Skip for keepingthat secret.
Me and Skip also was lovers, notSteve and I, but Skip, yeah.

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I don't know man, just hopefully.
So Beyoncé had her foul stolen in the ATL concert that she did.
So from my understanding, it wasplaced inside of a vehicle and
basically they took videos of dance steps and moves and even I

(22:41):
think they said like 50. Yeah, like unreleased songs and
tracks and tour plans and all that shit.
Yeah, man. So boy, I wondered, did.
They know. What they was doing, because I'm
sure this car wasn't just in theparking lot some fucking way.
They said. They said it was in the parking

(23:01):
garage. Trying to figure out why this is
Beyoncé's transportation. Who was watching this car?
Beyoncé is practically A billionaire.
Might as well say she is. Yeah, because her husband, her
husband go ahead. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, you might as well call her once you.
Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead.

(23:22):
Go ahead, go ahead. But either way, yeah, so where
is the security? Where?
Where was? Who's watching this car?
They watching Beyoncé? Yeah, but who is watching the
car? I would have been and had
somebody watching my me and my car like this don't make sense.
You just y'all just leave it in the garage.
This is Beyoncé, *** This is a mega superstar and this car is

(23:47):
in a parking garage with no security.
That's crazy. That shit should have been in a
briefcase lock with a with a fucking handcuff to all to your
wrists and to the briefcase. That's what it should have been.
Because it's Beyoncé. Well dude, you know they right

(24:09):
right on tour with the Cowboy Carter man, so damn, I hope you
still pulls. Cowboy right here.
Got the cowboy. Hope they figure out who got it.
Yeah, but Jay-Z might figure outwho got it because he got the
money and the people to do so. So he just might fucking ran the
key. Speaking of Jay-Z, his lawsuit

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for that little lost child, remember that lawsuit that that,
you know, the course just kept passing by like, ah, that shit
ain't going to work. They dropped it.
He just dropped out. He was like, you know what?
Fuck it. Fuck it.
Yeah, I wonder what made him sayfuck it.

(24:52):
Yeah, man, he had to at this. Point because this guy seriously
thought he was Jay-Z lost son. Go ahead.
I don't know what you were saying.
Now what? What's crazy is like, like Jay-Z
ain't going to take no DNA test for years.
Now if a chick came out, you know, because I know I've seen

(25:16):
it on T where they forced regular citizens and regular
men, they go take DNA tests to see if this baby is yours.
So I was like over 10 years, like they didn't, you know, I'm
surprised they didn't force Jay-Z or whatever.
Maybe it's not a law in New Yorkor wherever it is on the East
Coast or something. But I know in certain states,

(25:37):
yeah, they were like if a chick says.
Because of the simple fact of a *** ran the street versus a
bitch ran the street. And I'm saying, because I'm
saying these are the type of bitches that would do that.
A grown woman ain't doing that amature woman ain't doing.
But a bitch would do this and a *** would do this.

(26:00):
If you just a *** ran the street, fucking with a bitch ran
the street and y'all did some shit a few times.
She fucked a couple of other ***Yeah, you might.
That's a little different versusI want this billionaire to take
adna test with no proof. You have no proof.

(26:21):
That mean I can go right now andjust demand Obama to give him,
you know, take ADNA test becauseI believe he had sex with my
mother, you know, fucking 40 years ago.
And no, it's not that easy. It's not that easy.
But a *** ran the street yet that's easy.

(26:43):
That's easy money. And it was another man was
already tested, he wasn't the father.
And now, now Jay-Z is. So now people are online talking
crazy seeing Jay-Z had enough money to keep this quiet.
And you know why the fuck? They ain't quiet.

(27:04):
Getting dismissed, yeah, I was like.
What the fuck do you know what? At the end of the day.
Fuck out of here. They trying to make it seem like
his money, which I can see them saying that, but you know 10
years, it's been 10 years, right?
They've been saying it's 10 years.
So like you said, you can't force me to take no DNA test.

(27:26):
I don't know your Mama Jay-Z was20/22 and she was 16.
The. Fuck out of here.
Yeah, I got to sue your ass. What the fuck?
So. And then on top of that,

(27:47):
Kaepernick's partner, NASA. She says Jay-Z and Roc Nation
took 25 million from the NFL to bury Kaepernick's protest.
Oh, I mean, is, is that would would you think so?
Or would you? Because, and I'm not taking out

(28:09):
for Hove, but to me, if if I'm the chosen one to keep the show
going and I got to keep it goingno matter what, and this change
would be a distraction. I mean, you'll be standing up
for something, but that's not what they called me in for.

(28:33):
They called me in to keep the ball going.
Nothing personal. You bringing personal stuff into
this. And, and I get the entire story
on what led to Kaepernick's and the kneel and people just
blacklisting them and don't wantthem on their team.
But that's the point. There's certain stuff you can

(28:54):
talk about at a certain time, but in front of the cameras
trying to embarrass what you thought was revenge, Sometimes
that could be the worst thing too, you know?
But I, I appreciate them standing up for them.
But these are the consequences to it.

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You get blacklisted, you get knocked out.
I've had to do it before. There's people that I did like.
But if your attendance ain't doing well, I got to treat you
like I treat everyone else. We got to move on.
Yes, I can take it personal thatyou don't have a car.

(29:38):
You got two kids. Your girl worked too.
They held her a little late. Now you got to come late again.
The car broke down or or whatever that case may be.
I get it. But at some point, what happens

(30:00):
to everyone else would have to happen to you, even if you saved
that person a few times, even ifyou tried to negotiate.
So I've, I'm just saying there'sa 5050 chance that Jay-Z could
have done that. No, you're talking about just

(30:24):
this. I yeah, let's get over that.
It it, it's a no, I'm just saying it's a 5050 cent chance,
you know, whether you think so or not.
I, I believe it's a 5050 chance.But, and the other 50% is he
honestly was trying to make something happen.
But when you're not trying to meet halfway, you're stuck on
what you want. Yeah, I'm going to move on.

(30:49):
And if I can take this 25 mil with me, OK.
All right, 25,000,000, it was 25,000,000 so but now the
question is, you know, would he do something like that?
I think he would because at the end of the day, money is money

(31:10):
and business is business. And I don't think a lot of
people wouldn't have turned it down neither if he did do it.
So, you know, because I know 25,000,000, somebody told me
25,000,000. But you got to do this, do that.
I probably would have found another way to help Colin
Kaepernick. But I'm talking straight up.
Yeah, I got to get this 25, bro.It is what it is.

(31:34):
Put it past him. It's like, look how he did Dame
Dash. You know, he's shrewd.
Not saying he was wrong or right.
I'm just saying he kept his footon his.
What? Did he do the damn that?
Yeah, that's what I said. Not saying he's wrong, all
right. I'm saying I don't know the
details of Dave Dash, about DaveDash and Jay-Z relationship.

(31:55):
So I'm just saying I don't know when shit, when it's sour.
He kept his foot on the gas. It looked back at that day of
nothing. You know what?
And here's another story. How about, how about this one
hit boy? The first CD ever bought of with
my own money was The Blueprint by Jay-Z when I was 13 years

(32:18):
old. I never would have imagined when
playing that album over and overand studying it that I would
have the opportunity to work with him 10 years later.
The first song ever released that I produced for Jay was ***
in Paris, he said. I remember getting a text from
Hove, he said the song dropped and was going crazy and he said

(32:44):
if you get me another *** in Paris I'll get you a plane
jokingly. But today I can say he got me
something more valuable than a plane.
He said, well anything, anythingelse.
He said he helped secure my freedom from a 18 year

(33:06):
publishing deal I was stuck in and I can't thank him enough for
pushing that through. Much appreciation to Desiree
Perez. You hear that Nikki?
Desiree Perez for also making this happen.

(33:27):
The love and respect on my ends run deep and I appreciate all
the help. For real.
Today I am a free man. I feel like I just got in pen
after he said. I feel like I just got out of
the pen after 18 year sentence and have a chance to start over

(33:49):
with more knowledge than I ever had.
My best has yet to be seen. God is great.
What's the deal? What about that y'all?
What about that? Gave Jay his flowers for.
What about that? See everybody talking about

(34:12):
everybody keep talking about with Dame Dash, he how he did
Dame Dash, nothing about you. But you know, a lot of people
think that how he did Dame Dash and he did Dame wrong and all
did he? I need to hear both sides of the
story, and from what I've heard,I can see that happening.
You thought I couldn't do it. I'm proving you wrong, and I'm
gonna let you know you were wrong, and I'm gonna keep

(34:34):
letting you know you were wrong.I don't think he fucked him
over. I think he just stopped fucking
with. Him, I said.
I don't know the answer now, no.No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no. Not comparing it to you.
Not comparing it to what you said.
I heard what you said. You just said it.

(34:55):
I'm saying what I've heard people say, You know what I
mean? A lot of people think that's
what's been happening. It's like, Nah, I don't think, I
don't think it was just like that.
But yeah, I mean. It just seems something where
one comedian, I can't think of his name right now, but he was

(35:16):
on the Shannon Sharpe show. He said, you know he still would
help. Damn Dash fuse Jay-Z.
He felt like Jay-Z should still help him.
You know, you ain't got to just get a *** a bunch of money.
But you all right, At least I can just pay off your debt.
I ain't adopt you. So, you know, I kind of, I think
we had that same conversation a few episodes back, you know,

(35:39):
because I said the same thing just because like you said, like
the history, the history, this isn't the history they've built.
So regardless, I'm like, you know what?
I don't fuck with this *** But let me go ahead and just give us
a little bread here. You're getting straight after
that *** I'm done fucking with you.
You know shit, that would have been a drop in a bucket for me,

(35:59):
especially if I if we build history together, we made money
together. We just ain't vibing all right.
Like I said, you ain't got to put the *** on salary.
But you know, I kind of said, like I said a few episodes back
when we talked about this, I said I kind of said the same
thing a little bit, like, you ain't got to fuck with the ***
but. All right, you're starting to
repeat yourself all over again. We get it, We get it.

(36:22):
But no, I I disagree with that. We got.
Yeah, I had to stop you going. You going, you know, $0.50 them
all the way, huh? I mean, it's just I don't think
that has nothing to do with me. I don't that's your problem.
I don't need to do that. I don't that's not the least
second. I don't know.

(36:43):
We grown ass men. I I didn't say you did.
I'm just saying I don't need to.I I get what you said.
You repeated it twice. We understand.
I'm just saying my part now. I've.
I just really don't. You don't need to.
Do we? We're two grown ass men who who
parted ways. You said some shit about me that

(37:06):
I know about. I said some shit about you that
you know about. OK.
Yeah, at this point, you're you're you're doing you.
And then you held my fucking my baby, my album, my baby that I
wish I had all publishing of allmy shit.
And you got the one thing that Iwanted.

(37:27):
And I offered money to you. I offered more than what you
got. I offered you 3 mil, if I'm not
mistaken, that would have gottenthem out of that.
What are we talking about? Yeah.
What are you talking about? You didn't.
He didn't take the offer. Yeah.

(37:50):
You wanted to bullshit him around.
Come on. Come on.
I guess I was. I guess I was looking at it like
like, damn, like *** I'm trying to get 10. *** come.
On I mean, he probably was OK. You're not going to get that
much because people fuck with me.

(38:11):
They fuck with me. If, if, if the whole Indiana
fuck with you, your family had values and royalty and loyalty
and all that shit and everybody knew it.
Why would I have? Why would I have something of
yours and try to sell it to someone in Indiana?

(38:38):
If they do buy it, most likely they're going to give it back to
you. And if they don't buy it, it's
because they know they fuck withme.
And if we did buy it and didn't give it to him, he's not going
to fuck with us no more. That's why Cameron and Mace

(39:00):
remember? Ah, we might buy.
They was laughing and joking andshit.
We get it. But ain't nobody spending no
$1,000,000 on that. Yeah, that means a lot to Hove.
That means a lot to a collector.Yeah.
But it ain't get into the hands of neither.

(39:22):
And you got less than what, man?Damn, get the fuck out.
Of my face and since you're going in like I'm like, and you
know what? I have to agree with you man,
that. Might be like damn this woman,
this shit pop up in my God damn news feed.
I'm like get the fuck out of my face.
I smile a little bit, but it's like get the fuck out of my
face. Dang, you got to be bullshitting

(39:45):
me, yo. I did have that thing.
I was. Looking at walls.
Yeah, I had that thing I was looking for about the YSL new
lawsuit. You got anything on that right
now? It's because because I'm I'm
looking for my article and I cannot find it.

(40:07):
It's the lawyer, man. The lawyer?
Yeah. He, he, he's in trouble for, you
know, smuggling drugs into the defendants.
It was a he. Why did I think it was a her?
Nah, it was. Well, yeah, it was a she.
That was a she. Lord, I'm trying to find it
y'all because he's just fucking it up already.

(40:29):
I'm sorry, I wrote my notes down, but I didn't write the
name down. But it's the female lawyer.
She basically, you know, was in trouble for drug trafficking.
YSL lawyer, man, you know, underthe defendant.
She was getting them high in there, in court, in prison.

(40:53):
Damn. Yeah, man.
Well, Shorty, I want to dig on aSo are they going to do anything
to Young Thug? What about that?
Or he's just free. Because I'm not, it's just the
lawyer they already they ain't in no trouble.
Like, hey, we already know you're high.
We already know it was high. Fuck it, fuck him.

(41:16):
He he was high. He did his part.
Like, like straight up, you knowit did.
Again, I don't know. I'm just she's.
Charged with with gang activity man.

(41:36):
Everybody was was, was thugging.Out Nicole Fagan was indicted on
multiple charges on Monday, which include allegations she
tipped off a fugitive about evidence to get rid of.
Fagan is well known and local legal circles for her effective
representation of alleged gang members, often when they are

(41:58):
charged with violating Georgia'sStreet Gang Terrorism and
Prevention Act. Private investigator JP Miller
told Channel 2 investigative reporter Mike Nguyen that he and
Fagan He knows Fagan from both sides of the street, having
worked against her when she was a gang investigator on Falcon

(42:20):
County's DA's office. Why man, I don't see her doing
too much in too much time or nothing, especially with her
reputation and. She's white.
I don't have to get her to do itthough.
Like was she bout it? Like was she shitty I got you or

(42:42):
was? It damn but.
What I need to do like what was it?
But but the shoe Young Thug's lawyers was about it.
Remember he took that contempt charge and went to jail too.
Oh yeah, for not giving up information.
So yeah, his lawyers, his white lawyers is about that lie like
*** sent us about to jail. Fuck you.

(43:03):
She's smuggling shitty. Allegedly so.
I wonder what a black lawyer would have done now.
They had to do it all on them, man.
They ain't taking that now. I didn't know I didn't do that.
That won't. Make that comedian inside and
he's like, black people, go tellsomeone.

(43:24):
I can't do all this time by myself.
Oh shit, yeah. Shout out to the YSL lawyer for
I'll be down on my table. I get rich like that.
I'm calling y'all. They say This Is Us or nobody
we. In.
We in for the long haul goddamnit.

(43:46):
Shout out to them bro. Y'all sound on Merita?
Probably known them for a few months.
They do whatever for that money.I'll put the system on trial.
They promised he was going to get out too.
Going to keep you in here buddy,I guarantee.

(44:10):
That violate my, they violate my, my civil rights.
Matter of fact, I'm going to take this case on pro bono.
Damn, shout out to them man, Shout out to them.
So these MLK files didn't came out and it was a lot, but one

(44:33):
specifically they said why he was being, you know, when he got
assassinated a little bit beforethat he was looking to give
black people their money. Yeah.
And it was a lot of money, and they were trying to get us to

(44:54):
get paid so we can catch up withthe rest of society and be paid
for being slaves and what happened with our ancestors.
The same shit we've been asking for for the longest.
What's that word it it begins with AQ.
Sir. That went over your head doing
some fucking Yes, Sir. But yeah, man, they were trying

(45:19):
to get us our money to get back into society and be able to
afford what we can do and live like the kings and Queens we
supposed to be. And I forgot exactly how much it
was going to be, but it was a lot of money to all the African

(45:40):
American family. But as he was trying to build a
program, an operation to make that move happen towards the
White House, especially with JFK, you know when things were
supposed to happen, shortly after that, Martin Luther King

(46:02):
was assassinated. So a lot of people think it was
because of how close he was to making this happen and to give
all this money to the black American families.
They got scared so. Yeah, because of the power that
black America has, they know what we can do with the dollar.
You know, look at Tulsa. Look at all the property they

(46:25):
stole from us over the years. We can make things profitable
ourselves. You know, if given that
opportunity, they know what's going to happen.
Everybody wants to be like, oh, well, if you give black people
these reparations, they ain't going to do nothing but waste
it. So what, you going to have a
good amount of people who waste state reparations and you going
to have a good amount of people who start businesses and invest

(46:48):
period. So at the end of the day, that
goes in every race you give it. If you give any race reparations
or whatever, you think they going to spend all the the whole
race going to spend their money properly?
No. Unless they Chinese.
Yeah. Make some shit a.

(47:12):
Middle Eastern boy, what are youdoing with your?
No, no, I can see a middle. I can see Middle Eastern coming
out with the Flyers cars and driving fast and getting to a
car crash. So they're going to make some
dumbass investments. But I'm Chinese people now.
Yeah. They're going to own everything.
They own everything. If you do that, they own

(47:32):
America. Yeah.
And and we might have someone who wants to start playing
Monopoly, but it's not going to be all of us.
I I agree with you on that. It's not going to be that.
They try to say that that the the files being released is over
230 pages. Oh yeah, wow.
And. It's like some of it, some of
the videos and things aren't good quality because there's,

(47:57):
you know, they have blurred because of the, you know,
deterioration over the decades, you know, and it's just saying
it's really not nothing in therethat we didn't already know.
And I'm sure they not going to put certain stuff in there.
They not going to lease, you know, like I'm sure the FBI been
following and, you know, harassing them for years, you

(48:20):
know, before they assassinated them.
Like the government has something to do with him dying
period. So yeah, that's all that was
just, yeah, Trump made that in the deal to release those fouls
anyway, and that deal he made anyway.
So he had to release those foulsand those fouls with John F

(48:40):
Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. So, yeah, so rest in peace to
Martin Luther King and thank youfor trying your best to get us
what we need. So we also got a Rick Ross.

(49:01):
Rick Ross was in the tabloids, haven't said tabloids in a while
about him on a on a boat kissinga man.
That's what 50 Cent said it was kissing a man, which it was a
figure with some booty shorts onwith a low haircut and a more of

(49:26):
the thinner side of the body. Could it be a female?
It could be. I know.
I know a couple of women who gotshort haircuts and you know,
they're straight as a fucking, you know, as a fucking arrow and
they look beautiful like that. You know, I know some who are,

(49:49):
you know, gay who do that. So I don't think that was a
bore. But it it does look awkward the
way, you know, Ross was sitting on the boat and how he was, it
was almost like he was looking at the camera that was recording

(50:11):
them. I hope y'all ain't uploading it
like, I don't know. I don't know.
But it looked like it was from adistance because he really had
to zoom in on it from that far of a distance with a a camera
phone. No, I'm not going to sit here
and say that was a boy, But if he But if Rick Ross said it was

(50:32):
a boy, I would believe him. Oh, OK, so it was a guy.
I mean, First off, you know, I'msure it wasn't a man, but if it
was, he wouldn't be out in public with him like that.
That's still too, too far out inpublic, where you can be seen
anywhere. Yeah, and it was up until that
was on too. Yeah.
And I think that was just that was just the opportunity for for

(50:58):
$0.50 to go ahead and get in on this on his trolling like he
usually to. Yeah, I can see that happening.
But Rick Ross said $0.50 Hayden cuz he's on the boat with a
beautiful black queen is what Rick Ross said.
And you know, basically this is $0.50.

(51:20):
He's mad because his beautiful black queen basically did a tell
all and 50 trying to sue her, you know, because she signed
something where she get the tellall book or some shit.
Like, so I don't know what the Hell's going on, but yeah,
they're going through their whole little shit.

(51:40):
And Ross, is he he, he clapped right back.
Like he clapped right back, you know?
And that's why I fuck with Ross,man.
I love 50, but I fuck with Ross.He, 50, can't bully Ross.
He. Can't.
He can't. He just can't.
He did Fed Joe. I didn't hear nothing from Fed

(52:01):
Joe. I don't know what was going on
with that thing. I seen what he did with with
with Ja Rule, with Irv Gotti Ottoman.
He tried to do Jada. That didn't work.
Jada's probably the only one whoyou know who who actually stood
his ground. Was it Jada?
The whole locks? I think it was just Jada.

(52:23):
Yeah, it was it was everyone whojumped on.
And I'm from New York. Yep.
And he went and Jada, Nah, this ain't going, this ain't going to
work on boy. And, and they squashed that.
They squashed that now him and fed Joe finally squashed.
And the funny part about this with Rick Ross is Rick Ross
started it. That's the funny part.

(52:48):
Rick Ross started the beef with him in 50.
He said. I'm tired of this dissension of
hip hop. He's done nothing but divide.
Oh man, it's. Time for me to take the ball.
Rick Ross Rick Ross 10 years, right?
That was some G shit. That was some G shit.

(53:12):
I hope you don't got anything. Just black beautiful women.
Curtis, we know, we know. You just had your heart
shattered. You found out what we all found
out. That's why I had Daddy.
I hate when you read and laughing at the same time.

(53:33):
It just sounds horrible. Yeah, yeah.
Next time just keep it to yourself because Lord, I'm.
I'm sitting here with a fake smile waiting for you to finish.
Like that was so awkward. Oh my goodness.
I could just. Yeah, I.
Could just picture Rick Ross's face as he's typing this in like

(53:54):
this. *** who you thinking? No, he actually, he actually
said it. He said it on it.
That's why I got my, what I toldyou.
I just didn't go into details with it, but I basically was
saying what he was saying. But I ain't going to do that
because I heard him say it. So he didn't type that out.
He actually was saying that on his live or on a video or

(54:16):
something like that on I think it was Instagram.
So man, clips, clips, man. They sell around 1:18, 1/19 for
the first week. A lot of people thought they was
going to sell like 60 to 90,000.Nah, they went a little above
and beyond with that one, man. Yeah, man, this was.

(54:38):
I listened to the album. God damn.
What's the name of the album again?
Do you remember? You don't even remember.
What? Is it real?
Quick, let God sort them out, man.
Let God sort them out. OK, Yeah, yeah, that's it.
Let God sort them out. I listened to it, not really,

(54:59):
'cause I listened to it twice and it's been a week since I've
heard it, so I literally forgot everything.
I listened to it twice. For them to come out of I ain't
going to say retirement, for them to reunite and make an
album, I would say this was goodfor that album of the year or

(55:25):
something like that. No, the lyrics was lyrics was
cool. It was pretty cool.
The production was OK, but therewas no, there was no song on
there that says, oh, I see what this album's going.

(55:46):
You know, it, it wasn't no song on there to say this is going to
be the summer hit. This is the move for the summer
right here or, or this, this song's going to be in rotation
for, you know, months and years to come.
It, it, it's not there, you know, So I gave this a solid 3,
which is still good. I still gave it a solid 3 if we

(56:09):
were going by 10s, you know, andI kind of want to change that
for the pen and the pad. I'll go over it with you, you
know, once we get some time. But I want to kind of do one
through 10. I really do.
And if I was to do one through 10, this would probably be a
6.5, you know, but for now, I'm just going to give it a three.

(56:34):
If we're going about 5 mics, I'mgoing to go ahead and give it a
3. It's good, but it it never
elevates to anything else. You know, it stays on that level
of things. All right, go ahead, man.
What? What?
You got I'm going to give it a 3.5 because like you said it, it
stayed on the same level. I do love the lyricism in here,

(56:56):
but it wasn't it wasn't a, you know, a grinding on this album.
It wasn't you know, Mr. me too on this album.
It was just a a nice album. And hopefully this is a a start
comeback to, you know, the reunite, you know, reunion of
the clips, because I'm looking forward to more of it.

(57:19):
But I thought it was a good album.
So yeah, I'm I'm I'm leaning towards 3.5.
If I was going to do one point, go through one, one through 10,
I'm going to have to say it's A7.
OK so hey y'all go ahead and vote out there and let us know
what y'all think about this album.
Are we right? Y'all only do the one through
fives though. 3.5 from Terry andsolid 3 for me.

(57:47):
Dame Dash was summoned to the Manhattan federal court because
of the the the shit that he owe.They they really want their
money now. They want alls they fucking
money now. Yeah.
And and I'm looking on his Instagram and he fucking sitting
in random houses and fucking jacuzzis and shit.

(58:11):
Meanwhile, like I ain't never see a mother.
Like he's one of the people you look.
Don't you owe somebody some money?
That's the worst goddamn thing to see a *** in a Versace robe
and you like, that's nice. Hey, don't you owe somebody some
money? Because that's the first.
That's the second thing to come to my head.
You sitting over here looking cool and looking nice and

(58:31):
looking like you got money. It's like you owe somebody.
Don't you? Get them people their money,
man? You sitting over here acting
like you're stunting? Get them people.
You sitting in a Jacuzzi with your jewelry on, drinking
champagne. Get them people that got damn
money, man. Stop it.
You can't look cool when you when, when it's publicly known
you owe motherfuckers money. It's not.

(58:52):
It's not, Duh. And they're going to end up
taking all that shit. America new, new, all that shit.
They're going to end up taking all that.
Bro. I'm not going to spend so much
time on you because I I already did.
Yeah, yes, boy. You know, let them take all that
shit that. Shit ain't worth nothing but
about 50,000. That's what I'm saying.

(59:13):
If he ain't got nothing to give,what can they?
Do because he's going to give upeverything and still ain't going
to pay off everything. Just that's what I'm saying.
At the end of the day, what elsecan they take?
But he was the money man, though.
That's what everybody believes anyway.
So Uber got this new thing wherethey're going to start in 2026

(59:35):
of letting women pick other females as their Uber drivers in
the future. I think that's a good thing.
Yeah. OK, makes a woman feel very safe
too. You know, there's a lot of
people don't know who's getting in that car.
And then if, you know, a lot of women feel comfortable with
another woman. So, you know, that's, that's a

(59:56):
good thing. Shout out to Uber.
Now it's another six months. Suppose because they got to get
everybody, you know, they got toget the system right and all
that shit. So they probably just gave us an
early announcement. I What if the woman is a
lesbian? Yeah, that's what I was thinking

(01:00:18):
myself, but I didn't want to go there.
And what about men? Is Uber being sexist?
Are they gender shaming? Can I do a lawsuit on over?
Like we can't like we can't feelunsafe ourselves.
I. Think I'm going to do a little
woman? Getting in our car, I'm.
Going to do a lawsuit I'm going to wait for it to happen then

(01:00:38):
I'm going to I'm going to sue their ass.
Hey now I don't feel safe. I want a female too you.
Know within that six months whenthey do start that I see them
probably tweaking it like that where any Uber driver can pick
who they want in their car as far as male or female.

(01:01:00):
So I don't know, but anyway, I mean, hey, that's what it seems
like they're going to hit us with man.
They so females don't ever say we don't give y'all anything
because you basically can pick young God damn Uber drivers now.
Congratulations, because US men can't do that.

(01:01:23):
Can't do a damn thing. I'm surprised you thought that
was good for women, though. I thought you're going to be
like. You got me misconstrued there
Mac. I, I, I'm all for safety.
I just don't like when people piss down my back and tell me

(01:01:45):
it's rain. Shout out to Dated for beating
those trafficking charges. And also Diddy, he also you see
checked themselves into a a druguse a program rehab.
Boy, he really wants to get out man.

(01:02:07):
That was a smart move by Diddy even though his shit has stuff
to do with prostitution and kidnapping.
I don't know what the fuck drugshad to do with that.
Oh, everybody's. Trying to get right with God,
man. Ain't say you join a church, but

(01:02:28):
yeah man, everything you got to say before we get out of.
Here and shout out to everybody listening to the podcast, man.
Get at it, man Groundhog Terry on all platforms.
Check us out. That's right, that's right,
that's right. All right, all right.
And ladies and gentlemen, I am Mike.
Thank y'all for listening. We'll catch up with y'all.

(01:02:49):
I don't know, man. You know, we just got to see
where the wind blows. Big dog just got to see where
the wind blows. Y'all all right, man, I'm out
this bitch. Peace out.
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