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Yo-yo, yo, what's going on and we are back for another episode
of Talk Your Talk podcast. This is actually episode 90.
We got a couple of things comingup.
Y'all did. He crept his way.
He did it his way back up to themotherfucking topics here at
This is Meg Network. We also got a little bit of good

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Kendrick Lamar News Dallas Cowboys Dez Bryant had a couple
of words for Nicki Minaj and shehad some words back and it all
ended in a lovely sarcastic typeof way.
We'll get more into that. Trump is thinking about calling
marijuana more least dangerous drug, which means it should be

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least amount of time given if any given if caught with
marijuana and hopefully legalized everywhere for you.
And we also got stuff about the Soul Train awards, BET Hip Hop
Music Awards, YNW Mele. His retrial was pushed back

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2027. We're going to get a little bit
into that and I'll be sure stillfighting to keep Diddy inside
behind those fucking bars. And we also got Bow Wow and
Soulja Boy. What are these two fucking
knuckleheads up to? Stick around and find out.
And D1, the Christian rapper from New Orleans Be it.

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He had a couple of words to say about Jermaine Dupri and his
promoting of strip clubs. We also have a special guest
with us and all that's coming upnext right here on Talk Your
Talk podcast, Y'all TuneIn. We'll be right back after this.
The views and opinions expressedon the This Is Mac Network are

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those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect
the views of any affiliated organizations.
Listener discretion is advised and thank you for listening.

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Ladies and gentlemen, hold on. This is my part.
Ladies and gentlemen, you are now tuned in.
Uh huh. With who?
Uh huh. And ladies and gentlemen, we are
here. Episode 90 in the fucking
building. I'm your host, man.
We got Groundhog Terry in the fucking building.

(02:49):
Yes, we do. And we also have, you know what?
We're going to take Groundhog tech.
Shut the fuck up in the background.
We're going to take groundhogs away and just put late as a
bitch. That's what we're going to put.
You're going to be late as a bitch, Terry, you hear me?
Late as a motherfucker. I ain't going to put bitch.

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Don't groundhogs? Well, don't groundhogs have a
problem with time anyway? Don't do your ass got 1.
You do you. Hence the land Groundhog.
Fuck that shit man. And if y'all wondering who that
is in the background, we got theboy phrase back online.

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What's the word? What's the?
Word. What's the word?
People. Yes indeed, yes indeed.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back another episode.
We are 90 men, 10 more episodes away from being at 100. 100

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episodes. Jeez.
Jeez, that's a whole fucking line y'all?
It ain't. No, that's a whole lot of
episodes. I can't wait to get 5 * 20.
Shit man. So.
Barry know how to do some math too.
Jessie. Jessie.
Don't, Jessie. Don't.

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Man. Man.
Yes, he don't. I'm telling you.
Yes. He don't.
Yes, he don't he don't what? What's everybody week been like,
man? Of course the weekend is is
ending. It has ended.
I I can't complain. This week actually did go fast.
The weather wasn't too bad. It felt like the fall here

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early. And you know what the fuck plan
the weather. The weather did break.
I don't know what y'all thought.No, no, no.
No, the humidity went down some but it's still hot the fuck out
there. No, no humidity.
Humidity broke the rain. Flowing through your blood.

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Right. Now, damn.
Then the rain brought it down toManhattan.
Feeling like a little bit of fog, a little bit a few times.
Fall you talking about? Last week.
Cool outside last weekend. This past week.
Oh no, this past week. Last weekend when it when it hit
like 78° is the high. That's what if that's what

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you're talking about. Not this week, no.
Well, you know. We talking about this past week.
Stay in the southern part of Indianapolis that don't nobody
go to. I.
Don't know what the hell he talked about.
Baghdad. Damn that what?

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You want to call that shit out? There.
Yeah, man, I'm from. I'm from the hood.
The hood homie. He's not from.
Scared to walk. He's not from the scared to walk
in my hood. He's not.
Scared to walk in my car. He's.
Scared to walk in my hood, no. He's not from the hood.
He lives in the you're not from it.

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He lives. Scared to walk in my hood, but
you can't walk in my hood though, Frazier.
Is that your Ray J can't? Walk in your damn hood.
But you can't. That is.
That is the that. That is the Ray J.
Oh, Terry, you can't walk aroundyour hood.
Let me know now. Can you walk around in your hood

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right now? Why would I ask the question?
Damn, yeah, Frazier got him, man.
He he won that. Frazier won U0.
Terry, that was just. Yeah, I forgot.
That was. I forgot you for.
We're taking Terry. It's going to be a long night.

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*** it's going. To be a long night.
Let's go, Let's go, frappe. Oh.
The frappe is coming back. Yeah, here it go.
Here my dog. Yeah, man.
So yeah, I was your big. Yeah, that was your big.
Milk boy, That milk boy. Damn phrase he's seeing on you

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right now That that sounds kind of suspect.
Actually pretty cool. My wig was actually pretty cool
taking away being called middle boy, whatever the fuck that
mean. But I can't complain though.
Had a couple days off, baby girlwas gone so I had a couple days
to chill. Be a *** for a couple days, play

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some 2K, gamble a little bit. OK so baby girl back in town.
He. Was gambling on it 2K to.
Your family, man, Yeah. Gambling on 2K little cards,
couple card games, yeah yeah, OK, alright.
What card games do you gamble on?
As weather in in the east side of Indianapolis.
You know, it it was pretty hot, but like I said, the humans

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today it was a nice little breeze going.
It was some kind it was it was alittle nice little breeze.
If if you was in a shaded area, it was pretty nice.
I had, you know, in laws down and stuff like that.
So we kind of chilled and hung out and stayed Outback.
I don't know what it is. We we under the pergola and, you

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know, watching TV and shit and we got the ceiling fans going so
it feels good. But it was like less warmer
because of the ceiling fans. But once the sun, you know, went
to the other side of the house and we started getting more
shade, that air started turning a little cooler.

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And then later on that night, I,I can tell you this though, and
I'm going to be done with it. I can tell you this one thing
that I had a beautiful scene this weekend for two days,
Saturday and for Sunday night. No, no, Friday night and
Saturday night we had two full moons and the motherfuckers was
lighting. It was lighting the sky and it

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was shining on earth so fucking bright.
I don't know how it looks on y'all end, but seeing that that
moon blue light on your on your page, Oh man, it was lovely.
And I I really shout out to the moon mooning out there.
I went and got some of that thisweekend.

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I got some moonlight. That almost reminds you of that
day, that the day of the eclipse, the day the eclipse was
down there. Crazy, bro.
Like that shit was crazy. It was fucking.
It was dark as hell. And what, like 3-7 in the
afternoon? Yeah, that shit was crazy.

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Did you have your eclipse? Did you have your eclipse
glasses on? I didn't *** I really didn't
need them. I really didn't need them.
How these new cameras and shit set up, like my *** I seen that
shit like that shit was crazy. I had my glasses, I had my
glasses, but I took my glasses off when I wasn't staring at it
just to witness how dark it got,so.

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Early. That was nuts.
Yeah, it, it looked like, like this was the times that, you
know, when you look at those movies and you look into the
future and everybody's, you know, surrounded by a trash can
is on fire trying to keep warm and got their motherfuckers,
yeah, motherfuckers riding the streets.

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Looking to. Looking to capture you and shit
like it. Honestly looked like another
planet we were on. It looked like if we were on
Mars, like, just the color that it gave, it was like, wow, Yeah,
it would look like nothing Mad Max.
More like some Terminator shit. Yeah, it was lovely, man.
Shout out. Shout out to the eclipse, man.

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But let's see what else is amazing.
So Diddy. He's talking about having a
fucking celebration at Madison Square Garden once he's released
from prison. Now, well, Diddy Diddy still has
the key to the city. No, he doesn't.
He had to return that. So yeah, yeah, they took that

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back from him. So you're wrong.
I thought you was taking notes. And you got it.
The first thing that your mother's wrong, you got a de
facto key. Yeah, good cover up there,
buddy. No, but one I can see Diddy
doing this because he's always ashow off.

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He's always a fucking show off. Yeah.
So. So now that we've heard what we
heard and the case has been settled as far as the
Rocketeering part, what do we think about Diddy now I'm going
to start. We know I already know you, so
I'm going to let you go last Diddler Junior.

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But Frazier, I'm going to start with you.
How you feel about him. Then you know, if we can keep
it, you know, not too long. But how do you feel about him
when we were talking about him, you know, months and months and
months ago and versus to now after, you know, everything has
came out that he's not going to be charged with the more serious

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charges that everyone. I feel like, yeah, I feel like
everybody is flawed, you know? I'm saying like did he ain't
perfect, you know, I'm saying I feel like a lot of the stuff
that was going on with him was really just like some personal
like like behind the scenes typeshit that's that's out to the

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public. But in reality, a lot of the
shit that he's not that he was doing wasn't illegal.
Everybody got their own lane of how they want to move.
If Diddy want to watch his girl get fucked by another *** you
know what I'm saying is nowhere in the laws where that's illegal

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to do. Like he can do that, especially
if the girl was going for a lot of consent is is needed with a
lot of with a lot of Diddy actions.
But I mean, shit, I feel like, Ifeel like Diddy was just like a
freaky ass *** You know what I'msaying?
Just that same *** that's everybody got a everybody got a

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freaky ass *** in in a class of lifestyle that you live.
You know, Diddy was that millionaire, billionaire freaky
type of *** A lot of people who was down for the shit that y'all
was doing with them, I feel likey'all kind of flaked on him at
the end. So it's like shit man *** I
ain't saying like big ups to to Diddy but shit bro let.

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Me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
He gets out of prison, throws the party.
Madison Square Garden. You get an invite.
Are you going? I'll get an invite is nasty.
If I get if I get an invite to Madison Square Garden, Hell
yeah, I'm gonna go to Madison. Square.
OK, okay, shout out. Yeah, it's the after parties.

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It's the after. Party.
Sperm and everything but. He ain't going to have that
Madison Square Garden, Square Garden.
He's turned a new leaf. I ain't going to invite to Diddy
concert. You ain't going to Diddy

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concert. I'm.
Going. I'm going, Gee, I don't get no
fuck, I got shit to do with me, bro.
That's all I'm saying. I know you from being P Diddy,
you know biggie shit, you know being Diddy, but you know what

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me and my dude was talking aboutlike it's already one thing
hearing the shit that you heard about Diddy, but did y'all ever
watch that? What?
What was it called making the band?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Damn young ass *** It's like my
dude had to remind me of the conversations we had about that

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show when it was coming up. Like Diddy was showing that
controlling kind of sign back then during that show.
And what was that, like, early, mid 2000s type shit when that
show was hot? Yeah.
You know, like he was showing certain size of who you are.
And I feel like everybody who signed the contract with Diddy

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know what comes with Diddy. So you know what I'm saying?
I mean hopefully he change up some ways but I mean shit.
Gotcha. So me personally, yes, I would
go to Madison Square Garden, Goddamn it.
I mean, come on now, he beat thecharges, right?
But but, and like I said, I thought he was guilty of, I

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still think he's guilty of a lotof that shit just.
Shouldn't have been no charges. Motherfuckers, motherfuckers got
some, you know, some money, you know what I mean?
So anyway, I do think from this point forward, yes, that does
seem like a Diddy thing to do, to throw something live in
Madison Square Garden. I'm pretty sure a lot of people

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going to support that, maybe even me, because now we can
listen to Diddy without feeling some type of way.
You know, I think that'll be best.
Like if R Kelly had the same type of thing, like if he really
didn't do these stuff, Even though I'm, I don't want to take
nothing away from what happened,but I'm saying like if we find
out these were all lies, then it's like, damn, man, I can

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listen to R Kelly a little better now versus always
thinking of the negative that falls behind.
So the little Diddler junior real quick man, how how do you
feel about all this man? We know you going to the invite.
I, I. Go ahead, I knew the man was
innocent in the first place. Him.

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Him going out, him convicting this man, him convicting this
man was nothing but a big sham to ruin him it.
Was right. Now with that being said, when
the King Puffy gets home I expect him to throw the biggest
party, especially since especially since the world knows

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he's gay now, he can't get nothing but bigger.
It's real, not even being funny.This is being thrilled.
Nah. That's real.
How come when I said, hold on, How come when I said that, no, I
don't think it's worth it. Remember when I said when
everyone kept saying, I don't think that'll ruin him if he

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came out to do this and that. And I'm like, no, if he come out
as gay, I think he would get more people to like him and he
would get even more popular. So when people kept saying I
think the only thing is gay stuff on there, I'm like, he's
not paying that much money to hide the fact that he's gay.
Yeah, he down there, then he down there.
Gay to the bitch. We.

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Can go, I'm saying, because I'm saying if he comes out and he
and he embraces it, if he reallycomes out and embraces, that's
what I said, because he still ain't came out.
No, he's still no. But I'm saying shit I said you
just put on. That was mine, no.
What I'm saying is we ain't, he still ain't came out.

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He still. Ain't came out and said I'm gay.
This is just hearsay from peoplebut no man what I'm saying.
Ain't got to fucking duck and quack like a duck and that's.
How? And that's how I was looking at
it months and months ago. That's why I kept saying y'all
don't see this shit like come onand and y'all know what I'm

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saying. I don't think that.
No, I'm like all I'm saying. Is I can see him throwing this
party too. And King Puffy can't get no
bigger. You can't get that key to the
city right on. You can't be stopped.
But y'all know? His lawyer stay he he won't be
necessarily performing, you know, he said.

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But it's got to be something exceptional and probably
demanding and and challenging from the celebration.
Oh. Wow, and I want to see it.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, I.
I would want to. I don't want.
Who do you think? Who do you think?
The most that they did like knowing that they they probably
knew halfway through that trial that Daddy wasn't going to be

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guilty for half of the bullshit y'all really want him for.
So the most y'all can do is. Tarnish his name and it's like
this is just a official tarnish.His name has unofficially been
tarnished for years. *** like his name unofficially everybody
like man, everybody give a shoutout when you hear Diddy.

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Like, I can picture being in Hollywood and I can picture a
motherfucker a a group of peoplelooking at the group of people
who go in the daddy party, like,yeah, they must not know what's
really going on. You know what I'm saying?
But it's like now that shit has officially been tarnished.
You didn't you still in jail. You know, like a lot of your

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weirdest details has been exposed and he.
Should be in jail still. They really just shitted on you
like, but my *** you for the come out, throw a party at
Madison Square Garden and and *** But not a remix album.
Goes on bro. That's the type of *** Diddy is.

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Life goes on, Gee and he. Gonna have that *** and he gonna
have a *** That producer there, that producer that said he
smacked his ass. Little ride, little ride, Hot
rod, you have shit. MC Rod, I forgot his damn night,

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but you know. Feels like I feel sorry for no
man that came out again at all. I'm glad you lost *** I hope you
don't get enough. Hot Rod.
Played. Yourself.
Man, God damn, but you know who's still standing 10 toes
down and trying to face it? Don't forget Diddy has that one

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last challenger and he goes by the name of Al.
Be sure that's right. I'll be sure to be your final
challenger 'cause I'll be sure, he said.
Remember when I say that that was the most expensive PR media
campaign and she aimed to conceal evidence, discredit,

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silence and dragged me through the national media who exposed
all the activities and then stared 2, No 10 toes down about
Kimberly's alleged murder. And then they said, I'll be sure
it was looking for attention. It was cloud chasing.
He said, no, that's incorrect. I didn't ask to be dragged into

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any of this. He said to be gang stalked and
you have no idea what else but Iwill.
He's been recovering from a comasince 2022.
Multi system organ failures, near death crisis that he was
having, multiple attempts to unlife him.

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Said most importantly, and as God is my witness, I will not
stop until there is justice for Kim Porter.
So he's saying that there are. He got proof of some shit and
he's going to start doing some shit.
So attempts on his life. Yeah, I feel like his message

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was slight contradictory. That part where he said like he
he ain't going to go through toomuch.
It's like, I mean, bro, sound like you going through a lot
over this shit and you talking about you ain't going to stop
till this. Yeah.
It's like, hey, bro, you sound like you got a you don't sound

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like you got a whole lot of lifeleft, bro.
Like not sounding. I, I wouldn't waste my stress on
that on some shit that ain't gota damn thing to do with you,
bro. Like it ain't got a damn thing
to do. With you, like, I mean, Kim
Porter's is, you know, baby Mama.
You know they had love. For each order.

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Just saying they got a kid by each other.
Yeah, OK. Yeah, be it's.
A tad bit deeper, baby Mama go always.
Why did it? Why did it take you 6 years,
seven years after her death to start speaking out?
'Cause he was in. I mean maybe he just laundry
shit. He was in a coma in 20.
He was in the coma in 2022. Like stupid.

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She died in 2018. But then he said attempts on his
life, so that could have happened.
I don't know the timeline. The first time I heard it was
the first time here. I mean, but you know how that
speaking out shit go and it's like you can't.
If Diddy had attempts all your life.

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If you trying to talk about Diddy tried to do some shit bro,
it can't be too far fetched. ***tried to blow up kid cuddy, kid
cuddy kid cuddy. Yeah, he tried to blow up his
car. I forget the ones it was.
Sorry, sorry. False accusations.
It's ridiculous. Oh man, I forgot.

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Fucking ridiculous. Allegations that have been
proven UN unproven allegations. I forgot against.
My. Client.
Yeah, I forgot. My fault.
Oh man, so not. Yeah, so he says.

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I'll be sure went on to say I almost forgot the one item on
Trump's agenda that seems to be accurate in this case, the fake
news. As you see here, it can be paid
for. Let's investigate which 27 news

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outlets took payments to scrub Kim Porter's from their news
cycle. So that's what he's talking
about. I mean, he, he's really going
that far with things. I don't know if this is a bit
too far. I don't know if 'cause there's
something that is true. If let let's just say if it's

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true and you're really seeking revenge, I can see this
happening, but I don't see, I don't see why pretend this that
that's just me. You know what I'm saying?
I don't see like hey, let me he killed her and I got evidence
just making it up as I go. If I.

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Talk to her. Unfortunate and she's telling me
shit I'm just saying. He said my thing.
My thing with Diddy is is unfortunate because the first
thing with allegations, especially if you know this

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person, the first thing you going to know is the first thing
you going to do is just think about this person.
You know, I'm saying like say they say we me and Terry on the
phone one day and we heard that Mac in jail because he robbed a
bank or some shit like that. First thing we're going to do is
Mac around it like, you know what I'm saying?

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Like that don't even really sound like Mac like, but after
hearing all of these details andstuff come out about Debbie, and
then you hear some shit that I'll be sure talking about, it's
like, man, you really can't put the shit past his ass.
Like he can present enough evidence.
Yeah, if he can present enough evidence.

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Allegations. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
allegations. But The thing is, see, I'm the
type of *** I'm the type of *** where the allegations matter.
Whether the allegation is true or false.
You're going to only give a certain type of person a certain
type of allegation. From example, just like I said

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with Mac, we hear that Mac allegedly robbed the bank. ***
Terry me that shit ain't we can't we can't take that shit
nowhere. It's like we never heard of a
Mac stealing nothing. We never heard of nothing coming
up short under Mac name like nothing like that.

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But when you didn't have the allegation, a certain type of
allegation, and it's like where I can see him doing that, it's
like, I don't know, bro, right. Let me see what evidence you got
to prove. It's not like God, fuck that.
That's the question is like whatever this.
I think this whole thing, I think this whole thing about

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Diddy, a lot of stuff they'll besaying is a conspiracy.
I don't think she was murdered. I think she died exactly how the
medical examiner say she died, period.
Well. It's bad to keep bringing that
up, especially since he has kidswith this woman and they got to
hear this all the time. They father possibly murdered

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their mother. That's a lot to take on though,
Terry. That's what I'm saying that's.
A lot to take on, but that's a lot to take.
On if you ain't got no. Evidence to prove it, that's
what like. I get.
What Max said. That's a little far fetched to
just come out and say like, yeah, Nah, like because she been

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dead what, 3 plus years now going.
On seven years since 2018. And that's what I'm saying, why
didn't you speak out? Why didn't you speak out before
you went into yo coma since 200 and 222?
I mean with the coma. Don't tell her what the fuck you
had going though. And.
And this is my thing, even before you go in that coma, like

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let's say what led him into thatcoma was affecting him around
that time. He could have been so.
Sick and he said he had multipleorgan failures.
It could have been one after another.
Was in a coma. How?
How More serious, brother, that's a step away from fucking
death. Yeah.
How much more serious do that shit got to be He.

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Died in 2018. Right now.
Oh man, 2022. No, but you can't blame him.
You can still be going through some shit for 2-3 years of
unhealthy living. You still could be sick for that
three years, but leading up to the coma is what we're saying.
So if it happened in 2018 and hewas still sick and didn't know

(30:33):
if he was going to make it or not day by day, then it's like,
no, it's nothing he can do. Why are you going to sit there
and say? Trying to get a case, I say he.
Tried. To get a case you could have.
Called baby daddy. Like think about it he it's 9
times out of 10 that he didn't learn this information once they

(30:57):
found out she died. I'm pretty sure it was certain
things that was leading up to her death that more than him.
Like more people than him noticed that shit, whether y'all
wanted to go with sickness or whatever.
That's why my question is if you're going to throw these type

(31:19):
of allegations out at him. Diddy is the type of *** Now
where? All right, you know what I'm
saying? What are you going to present?
Right? It's not no more like man.
No I ain't man. That *** ain't do that shit man.
Can't rob nobody. Yeah, I'm just saying I don't
put up with Daddy. Do some shit.
Diddy by the dead. Diddy just by the dead.

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It's all been a lot of shit going on, but we're going to
take it away from Daddy. I think we spend too much time
on Daddy Once a fucking again. So sorry people, we got hot.
Topic. Kendrick Lamar, he did something
very special, you know, recentlythis man Kendrick Lamar earns

(32:02):
the highest grossing concert by a rapper in Canada history with
7.70 million at Rogers Center inToronto.
So I mean. What happened with what?
What? Dress.
Hold on, Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

(32:26):
There you go. Gotta give me his flowers man.
No, I'm giving you know me, I'm not a Kendrick fan without when
I seen that shit damn. I'm just like man.
Like it's still good though, like.
This is like a this is like a year long.

(32:50):
That's like one of the stupid ass stats in the NBA.
LeBron James is the only 40. Years.
Playing phrase, phrase if OK, You from you, you, you, you from
you from here, right you from here right now.
If I come from another state, which I do, and I came into your

(33:15):
state, you was the the the the upcoming rapper.
And I come in your state and I I'll do, I'll say everything you
ever done my first time there and then dip out.
That's that's his that's that's his first time being there.
That's his first time performingin Toronto.
I thought, what? What?
No, no, no. That's, that's his first.

(33:35):
Time detail I picked up and I did, and I looked at a couple
articles about it. That's not a detail.
I picked up OK if. That was his first time.
I don't know. Hold on, hold on.
Let me go back. Let me go back.
I, I, maybe I'm fucked up. I don't have facts on that.
But that let me say this. This was his first time
performing since the beef got real hot.

(33:58):
That's what I want to say because I believe Drake brought
Kendrick out at one point. I don't know if that was in
America or in Toronto. Yeah.
That shit was weird that that whole beef to me was so weird.
I don't know if that's just the Hollywood entertainment, like
when podcast people be beefing with each other, just, you know,

(34:22):
Kendrick, not Kendrick Lamar, Ryan Clark and and Cam Newton,
they went on the beef and then they apologize.
It's like y'all doing this shit for entertainment.
Like is this shit for entertainment purposes?
Because I don't understand how Yeah, like how all y'all could

(34:43):
be cool and then some bullshit happened and like, like this ***
just went up off of that. See what I think happened?
Went up off that beat. What's opposed to because he
turned into, you know, hits? Yeah.
What I think happened with that is it did started out as let's

(35:04):
just start apart a little bit. And they kept throwing little
shots at each other. And then it got to a point
where, OK, now this man got a diss.
Song is bigger than life right now.
Like who doesn't know they not like us at this point.
Who haven't heard that before atthis point.
So and then if you hear or thinkor assume that the record label

(35:29):
is boosting his shit up to make him seem hyper than he is just
to make him hyper now it becomesI don't like this shit.
Even though I'm pretty sure if they did do that for Kendrick,
they've done that for Drake at some point too.
Isn't isn't that a record label's job?
Yeah, but I guess because it's making.

(35:49):
Your artists successful. That's what they did with him
with with anything coming on my cell phone.
Come on man, Come on. Very blood and broad statement.
Come on man. Real question is what are you
going to do to make him favor? He's like, how low were you
willing to go? How low can you go?

(36:15):
Not only, not only did he have $7.7 million that he grossed in
two days, you know they had over72,000 people back-to-back
nights. Ain't that something?
You know what I mean? Ain't that something?
Not only. What he grossed 200 and what

(36:35):
they say 256 billion? I'm.
Like, God, shit, yeah, that's some nasty numbers.
This not only reestablishes him in hip hop, but this really,
really solidifies him as a star over in Canada that that Canada

(36:58):
heat. Because I, I'm figuring that
Drake probably thought the Canadians really wasn't going to
go out and support him like that.
I mean, I think a lot. Of us was wondering but come on
that's that's like if if Drake came to LA.
Yeah, that's why I was just like, you can compare it to

(37:18):
basketball. Like motherfuckers hated Kobe
Bryant. People hate LeBron James.
I guarantee you Kobe Bryant or LeBron James, come to your city,
bitch. You going to see him?
Yeah, and I'm ticket prices going up too.
And the ticket prices going up because regardless of how much
you hate this person, he still is who he is.

(37:39):
You know what is now? With them *** who hates Kendrick
Lamar. But I can't take away from what
he is to the to the culture and to the people, you know.
So it's like. But to get back to what you
said, I think that it doesn't even matter if people from LA go
out because the people who are going to go to watch Drake in LA

(38:02):
will be rich people. It's going to be the
motherfuckers who fly into LA towatch.
You know what I'm saying? The Drake concert, to go to
visit the Drake concert, they'regoing to do that.
These are the motherfucker. Billionaires are going to come
out. You know, millionaires are going
to come out. So that shit is going to be sold
out. Me on myself.

(38:23):
Normal people, yeah. Normal.
People, normal people, are goingto be up top.
They're going to be up top and shit sitting up there, but the
motherfuckers are going to floatout, literally.
I don't know, youngsters that literally go broke getting a
damn ticket to go see Drake. And this is even back in 2008
when he came out with that. You the you the best you the you

(38:46):
the best man. I thought he was.
Going to he was the. Father, I thought he was going
to be a one hit one. Diggers who was rapping and
singing Bro and his shit. Both was crazy.
Both was crazy. Yeah, when Drake first came out.
Drake came out popping dude. Drake came out.
He did. He did almost like Mace.
It was almost like Mace. Yeah.

(39:08):
Just he he didn't have a song tohimself.
Just the features was like, damnthis dude.
And then when you start hearing the mixtapes, it's like when
there's a *** coming out with the album and he hit you with
the album, it's like, damn. Like he.
Really hit you with a couple more fucking albums, like
between mixtapes and shit. Like, yeah.

(39:30):
Yeah, his longevity definitely is is in effect, especially
longer than Mace. Longer than Mace.
So let's get to this Dez Bryant and Nicki Minaj.
Nicki Terry, would you like to explain what happened?
What did you see? So, so I know Dez Bryant.

(39:52):
I said Dez Perez, Dez Bryant, hehe's basically tired of hearing
all the bullshit coming out of Nikki's mouth.
And yeah, and he talks about herhusband being a pedophile and,
you know, registered sex offender and all this and that.

(40:16):
And she spoke back and. She talking shit to him.
She's saying put, you know, fight my *** put 10 mil on the
line and then and then, yeah, all in cash.
And then Dez Bryant, he apologized.
He said, you know what? You know, just to be going so

(40:37):
far with so much stupid shit, like shit that ain't even worth
it. They they putting US against
each other. This is all the only thing that
make the headlines, the negativestuff.
So it was like, I apologize talking about you and your
husband, blah, blah, blah. Nicki Minaj accepted the
apology, you know, and, and and she threw, she said.

(41:01):
Nicki, Yeah, she said. You still won that fight.
You still want that fight. Young Money, baby, Young Money.
You know what I would have? Said I would have.
Said yeah, I still want the fight.
I apologize but I still want thefucking fight.
I still beat your *** The fuck? Up that's what I'm saying.
I would still do that. What the fuck?

(41:23):
Oh man, so. I see.
Like when you listen to this type of situation, like now,
you're hearing just the ratchetness come all out of Kim.
I mean Nicki. The fuck?
Excuse me, I am so sorry. Nicki Minaj.
Fuck. It's like she's the type of
person that would be out in public with you.

(41:46):
You know, like you see one of those females that get their man
beat up in. Public, but they talk a lot of
they fart some shit. Start some shit with a *** Every
random *** get to talk of shit with a *** to talk of shit back.
My man a beat your ass. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, she wanted to I. Think he boyfriend definitely

(42:08):
called her. Definitely called her straight
on. Top of that, it's just like, of
all people, of all people, NickiMinaj is stepping in for you,
going to step in for Jerry Jonesjust because you got a vendetta
against Jay-Z. And Desiree how?

(42:31):
Petty is that How petty is that vendetta though?
Because it because because. We're going to take.
Me off into disturbance. I mean, it is determine how
petty a motherfucker going to get, because when I was reading
up on it, it seemed like it was.It seemed like it seemed like

(42:51):
Nikki ain't really had shit to do with none of it once they
just started making those comments on Roc Nation and I
guess Roc Nation owe her some money because of title or
whatever the case may be now Nikki just being the big.
Let me break it down. Now she just.
Being the female, let me break it down for you.

(43:13):
So she did some shit with title.Everyone was signing in and have
some type of ownership. She coming from Roc Nation's
part, It was a couple of documents she supposed had
signed by, you know, a deadline.She didn't do it.
So her ownership shit didn't work out the way others did.

(43:35):
And on top of that, this is allegedly this is what I've been
hearing. And then on top of that, you
know, little Wayne sold her catalog so she don't get none of
that. So it seems like she doesn't
have the funds, not like she's supposed to or being this queen

(43:57):
that she is and and and the hottest thing supposedly and
HIPAA, she's not making that money.
She's supposed to be up there with God damn, at least with,
you know, Beyoncé or something in the rap game.
You know what I mean? Money wise.
She made hit after hit after hit, and she going through that
whole reckless thing where she can't, she ain't getting the

(44:20):
money she's supposed to get. So how do you do this?
Damn, don't Roc Nation owe me money?
I could have had that money if Iwould have signed them.
No, fuck that. Let me put all this shit and
then you put all that shit out there and then Megan and
Stallion hit you with some shit.You think Roc Nation set that up
to happen? Then when little Wayne can't
perform at the Super Bowl, you blaming Roc Nation for doing

(44:43):
this and doing that. So she just wanted to get at
something. She thought she had people
behind her and she just keeps backing people.
She's trying to be like $0.50, You know, it's almost like she's
trying to keep herself relevant because she ain't fucking with
Cardi B. She ain't talking shit to her no
more at all. She left Megan alone.

(45:09):
When when she you realize bitches ain't scared of her, she
shut the fuck up. She realized that the Good Foot
song wasn't popping. Yeah, and it's like, damn, you
ain't got it. Like you throw a queen.
And you got the nerve to bring up this 2012 arrests when he had

(45:29):
that, you know, domestic with his mother and you sleeping next
to an old pedophile like. Really.
Like then you got the marriage talking about $10 million.
Like somebody won't beat the shit out of your dude.
And where's she going to get the10 million?
From that's what I want to know.Hey, boy.

(45:50):
Give me 10 million, I jump in the room.
Where the fuck she getting the 10 million from?
I don't care where it come from.Oh shit, so so yeah, Nicki Minaj
just get get your shit right, show you like, leave that shit
alone. Just go out there, look deep for
some good music and release somegood shit.

(46:10):
You know Cardi B really thinks you trying to release some shit
when she release her shit. I'm just joking.
I'm not sure, but she thinks something's creepy going on,
leading towards Cardi BS new album release date.
I believe it's called. Am I the drama?
Yeah, I think that is Yep, Yep, Yep.
So is she thinking it's going tobe something funny?

(46:32):
She thinking somebody's going todrop an album?
You know why she's dropping an album?
Or if you think the record labelis trying to fuck her over.
So it's one of the two. I'm just taking a guess out
there. But let's get to some possible
good news. President Donald Trump is
reportedly exploring reclassifying marijuana as a

(46:53):
less dangerous drug, according to Wall Street Journal.
What do we think about smoking? Marijuana.
I never know. Marijuana was a was a schedule 1
drug. They're trying to change it from
schedule one to schedule 3, which lessens the severity of

(47:15):
like jail time and you know, even getting the OWI, all of
that shit. So it's like that was actually
kind of new to me and it's legaland 41 out of 50 states is like,
you know, y'all really just getting a lot of taxes on that
shit, which all that shit for meeventually go away.

(47:36):
So yeah, I mean, it's actually, it's actually.
It's actually legal in 40 statesfor medical use and legal in 24
states for recreational. So across the board, across the
board, if they legalize it, which eventually they going to
do, I just figured like they just trying to figure out how

(48:00):
each state is going to benefit off of it.
You know, once they see how eachstate is going to benefit off of
it or who friends is going to bethe ones making money here in
Indiana. Yeah, well, we'll get to
legalize here. But you know, I think it'll be a
good thing at least. I always said at least just

(48:21):
decriminalize it so people ain'tdoing 20301510 years, five
years, even 5 two years in jail behind a plan. *** two days, ***
It's decriminalize. The Marion County, though, yeah,
it's decriminalized. Get caught with 10 lbs. 10 lbs

(48:43):
is a lot motherfucker. How about you use a better
example of getting caught with like an hour or something?
Like because it ain't decriminalized me.
I'm talking about if. You get caught with 10 lbs or
anything, they're going to stop your ass.
Yeah, it doesn't. Matter what, you got 10.
Pounds you could be. You could be in a legal state
and you get caught with 10 lbs of marijuana.

(49:05):
You going to fuck to jail? I'm talking about, I'm talking
about day. They just need to take it in
now. I can see them taking it, taking
it in fine. And you can be like, all right,
but going to jail now, Yeah. I got a crazy tail.

(49:28):
I got a cup. I.
Don't. Feel.
Right, if I pull you all the weed in your car, I'm taking
your bitch ass to jail. I'll give.
I if I, if I pull you, if I pullyou over and you got a little
bag tied up and you know what I'm saying?

(49:51):
Look like you got enough for about 4-5 blunts.
You got about 4-5 blunts. I'm I'm cool on it.
If I was a cop, I'm cool on it. OK.
You know, according to the law, you're like, hey, go ahead.
Just just, you know, you're good.
But with 10 fucking pounds, no, 10 lbs.
You come here, Sir. Who?
The fuck are you? You got to.

(50:12):
Give me some of this. I'm telling you, OK, OK, OK.
Because yeah, I'd have been thattype of hey, yeah, you know, you
got this is like a good 10 to 15lbs here.
So what you plan to do with this, you're going to
distribute? This do with this you, Terry,
they're going to have your ass booked up right with their ass.

(50:33):
I'm going to lock your ass up and be like, we got 5 lbs of
weed we caught on them. Yeah, they were like 5.
I'm going to shut your hands. Say something if you want to
homie. Shut your motherfucking ass.
Up. No, that's what I'm.
Saying, but what I was watching,it was something that one of

(50:53):
his, one of his representative, one of Trump representatives,
they made it the top of the priority list when he was going
through his when he was going through trying to become the
president and shit. And now that he's the president,
they said that that's not reallyon the top of his list. 1, it's

(51:16):
a law enforcement *** who's really pushing this.
So of course, being the law enforcement police officer, the
first thing that he ain't tryingto push is legalizing marijuana.
But they do say that it's like in the works, you know what I'm
saying? Like they're probably starting
to pay attention to how much bullshit has come because I know

(51:39):
the state of Indiana is still very.
High. And marijuana costs from court
costs and people being on probation and shit because you
got caught with a couple grams of marijuana is like, come on
now. Yeah, he knows.
So. This comes.
Go ahead so we can wrap it up. No, I said.

(52:00):
But this comes really after, youknow, these big cannabis
companies committed millions of dollars to Trump's, you know,
political groups. They did.
I did see that too. I did.
So I mean, I just like say y'all.
Giving be buddy shit. Let's let's hope for the best

(52:21):
and cause see if you legalize the drug.
I think it'll definitely benefitfor everyone, especially though,
like I said, like even being in Illinois or being in California
and stuff like that, just seeinghow people of many ages walk in
these dispensaries. Like it, it'd be fifty 6070 year

(52:45):
olds going around getting gummies and getting, you know,
God damn, the little cones and shit pre rolls.
And I'm like, look at these motherfuckers and they look
happy. They look happy as a
motherfucker leaving. But they, they put on this earth
for me, and for you, for me, and.
For. You.
So yeah, I think that'll do a lot good.

(53:06):
So this is interesting. It's so trained and the BT Hip
Hop awards are cancelled indefinitely.
So I'm going to be honest, I don't know the last time I
really watched and enjoyed the last hip hop BT awards.
I don't know. I don't know.
They had Fat Joe Chris. Rock got.

(53:29):
No, no, hell no. No.
He was hosting the Oscars, wasn't it?
It? Was the Oscars?
About four years ago now. Yeah, that was a while ago.
God damn. You know, Frazier don't watch
TV. Well, you know, got down the hip
hop, Hip hop awards. I never really cared so much for

(53:53):
that because they never have thetop.
People. In hip hop, they never had the
top people. In hip hop for me, they had the
motherfuckers who would come andshow up the show off.
They never had the top people like the main, the big names,
the the Jay-Z and the you know what I'm saying, like them type
of *** the Nas, the fucking. I mean, they went through.

(54:15):
Their town, they went through their town where they did their
performances and shit bro like the Vt awards.
I mean, yeah, not the. Not the Hip Hop Awards.
Hell, I mean they never performed at the Hip Hop Awards.
Yeah, I don't remember. You got a nice memory.

(54:36):
What's your best memory of the BET awards me?
It was Michael Jackson showing up.
Man or Cameron coming out there,that's it.
You after he did the movie, paidin full and the whole dipset was
on stage. I remember that shit, but you
that. Cameron.

(55:05):
I forgot he was there, Cameron. I don't even remember what
happened. I can.
Tell you I I would have said a million times of Cameron.
With another one, say another name then.

(55:26):
Another name where from the BET awards.
No, Frazier said. He would have said a million
names. Say another name.
Frazier. He ain't got to say nothing,
Frazier, but yeah, we got So what I.
Think it is. What I what I think it is, is

(55:47):
that they don't want to spend any money because this shit do
cost and it's not picking up andbringing in any money the way
they thought it would. Plus, like I said, none of the
big name people are coming there.
Jay-Z ain't showing up in no hipHop BT awards.

(56:10):
Beyoncé's not going to be there for support.
You might get one in the bitch now.
You might get one. Yeah.
If it's an honorary thing, you got to be honoring him to some
shit. We're going to honor you.
Any probably leave right after that shit.
No, I don't trust that shit. You you need to get the shit
taken very seriously and BET needs to work on that.

(56:32):
So I think they're going to do some restructuring.
That's what I think. That's what it is.
So CEO Scott Mills basically said it's already in their
financial regions, so it's not. They're not canceling the show.
They said it's under construction but it ain't no
timeline when it's going to return because since 2015 they

(56:54):
had like a 30% plumbing and thenthe 2025 was 50% drop so shit.
Yep, wrap it up fellas. That's what.
It is shit in 10 years. Oh shit, yeah, you ain't got to

(57:16):
worry about me no more, BB. Put that on the shelf right now,
that chef right next this goddamn love connection.
But that, what was that shit that used to come on was the.
Awards will probably be all about Tyler Perry.
Today, Tyler Perry yeah, and andkind of like how Melissa Ford

(57:40):
said on Joe Budden podcast and and it really connected with me
when she said BT isn't a music platform anymore.
That was just shows and it showsthat had nothing to do with
music. BTBT needs to be nothing but
music. If it's going to be ATV show,
let it be ATV. Like Empire would have been

(58:00):
good. I mean, Empire would have been
good on BET, you know, behind the music type of stuff would be
good on BET. What does BT stand for?
Black Entertainment TV I. Think that black entertainment
is just. Music.
But what was it known for when you was going to?

(58:23):
Be. That there you go.
And that's what had it going. I mean it was known for that,
but I feel like you like. So when something is going good,
your goal is to only make it better.
Of course, if it comes out worse, clearly that wasn't the
fucking goal. It's that's all I'm getting to.
So, so that's so let's stay there.
Let's stay there. Let's not what if it succeed

(58:46):
because it didn't. We're we're talking about BET
here. If you're Apple in your building
like that, yes, you're looking to get better and better and
better. BET was looking to get better so
they tried to expand a differentway when you faded out music
then. I mean bro it was a weird ass
time for music too bro why is? That she.

(59:08):
Never. It's never.
It's never a weird time for music.
Why not come out with some? Why not come out with some?
Why not come out with some documentaries, music
documentary? Why think of something
different? They don't have to be music
videos. They didn't.
Did all the they didn't. Did all the documentaries on
Tupac the rest? Of the *** still living.

(59:29):
Change. No, they didn't do that.
Behind the strange people they got, that's like the mafia, you
know, when everybody thinks that, you know, there's so many
bosses and whatever and everybody, everybody stops at
Lucky Luciano. And I'm like, dude, there's so
many people around here that wasbigger than him on.

(59:50):
He was part of the Mafia, ain't it?
Say what? He was a part of the mafia with
digging that man. And I'm trying to tell you
that's why we sent you to get all frapping.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's not get off the fucking topic here.
Anyway. Like I just feel like it was a

(01:00:10):
failure. They didn't do good TV show.
It wasn't meant for good show. Of course we used to catch the
Parkers. It was certain shows we would
catch late at night on BET and then other shows start coming on
in between time. My Brothers was on there too and

(01:00:31):
it was becoming like black sitcom.
Type stuff but. Now it don't seem right.
Yeah, but that was stuff that didn't it?
It wasn't originally BET 227 wasoriginally from what was it,
Universal, You know what I'm saying?
So they end up buying their rights to it for a certain
amount of time to air it. Once they stopped saying they

(01:00:53):
did, once they got rid of video saw on Rap City BT start going
down. Martin stopped showing a lot of
lot of shows didn't go as long as they could.
Have once they got rid of BT andRap City and Rap City and.
Rap titty. Rap titty.

(01:01:16):
Yeah, but you know what it is? You sound like they was bad rap
titty. They trying to create their own
shit to save money. So it's like, 'cause like I
said, Martin was coming on that that wasn't originally BET they
were buying it for, you know, that season or whatever they
they were doing. But if they create their own

(01:01:37):
product, they only looking to get profit back.
You know what I'm saying? And I'm saying that's what it's
fucking. Up yeah, because it's like it's
not even that it's it's because it's like that don't even have
to be the problem. It's the product that y'all
providing, you know what I'm saying?
People would still like to see anice family show nowadays.

(01:01:59):
Like every show ain't got to be about somebody being cheated on
or you fucking somebody best friend.
Like that's why all BET shows. That's trash.
Nowadays, like and you got to. Have a real studio audience.
Yeah, 'cause I'm tired of hearing the fake time, the bear
bringing the fake ground. I'm tired of hearing that shit.

(01:02:24):
Yeah, just kind of there. All them fake laughs and shit.
Yeah. Every time it's like, it's like
you come at the right time. I'm like come on man, I won't
even that damn funny. I need to watch the Martin
shows. Like them *** you got to like as

(01:02:45):
I've been watching Martin latelyafter watching certain podcasts
and certain interviews and shit,like man, you really pay
attention to how many times them*** will spend a crack on the
scene. Like, so you could be in the
studio coming to watch a Martin show and seeing that these ***

(01:03:06):
ain't even no script no more. Like they're just doing some
whole bullshit. Like they're literally trying to
watch. I mean, they're literally trying
to make each other laugh. Like that's real entertainment.
*** *** are what? That's why Martin is still
popular till this day. To never go out of style I.
Don't care. What?

(01:03:27):
The type of shows will never go out of style bro.
That shit was too natural. It would like at the time that
shit was too natural. Like the shit that's being
produced now and being thrown out to the to the people to
watch now is like, I mean this entertainment but like like them
shows you learn life lessons from the fuck is we learning

(01:03:50):
from these damn shows now? Like of like the the what we not
learning nothing from these shows.
This shit is just literally pureentertainment that you will not
integrate. None of this shit with real life
is like none of that shit will compare.
Well I agree with Mac on that they they need to go back to the
basics man BT is known for. Of course it's.

(01:04:13):
Black entertainment television, but it's known for music, so.
You can get a fake, you can get,you can pay a audience to come
in. That mother.
Just let it be real people laughing and not someone
clicking a button every time yousay something, you know what I
mean? And I think they're scared to do
that because what if the people don't laugh?

(01:04:35):
You know what I'm saying? And if the people don't laugh,
then maybe you can throw the fake shit in.
But I'd, I'd rather have the real natural fucking crowd
there. But YNW Mellie, So this guy who

(01:04:56):
he's in a trial right now looking for murder and well,
he's pending the retrial was pushed back to January 2027.
So now he got to wait the rest of the year.

(01:05:16):
They going to keep this *** locked up.
All the next. Year I just don't all.
The next year, yeah. He's not getting, he's not
getting back out, bro. No, Hell no.
They're not letting them. The hell no.
And it's like, I hate to say it too because I was just

(01:05:36):
applauding Daddy that he had no proof of nothing or whatever.
Two different type of that's twodifferent.
But this *** this *** is too much evidence to me in his case
is pointing at him is like dude,like.
That's why they, that's why they, that's why they put it to

(01:05:58):
2027. My *** they.
Not worried about that. He's not getting out of jail,
and his lawyers give. Y'all a whole nother year and
some change. Try y'all hardest to come up
with as much fucking evidence asy'all can.
My *** is. Cook, I'm sitting there.
I'm sitting there thinking We in2026, my *** I forgot.

(01:06:20):
We still in 2025. All.
The next year bro, they're not worried about him.
That's what I was like. I was looking at that shit.
He been locked up since 2019. This thing going on a decade in
prison. Now you can matter of fact.
Now it some weird just came to my mind as I hit the blunt.

(01:06:41):
You can either look at it one ortwo ways.
You can either look at it one, one or two ways.
One way like I said they're going to already book his shit
So what the fuck is another yearof retrial or two?
Y'all really don't got shit on him which that's not what I read
up. Like I feel like y'all got
enough evidence that at least get a dub out of but they got

(01:07:06):
enough shit to convict him and shit if he do get let go what
y'all going to get? Almost two years out there, ***
Man. Yeah, if he if he beat the if he
beat the case, y'all still got two years out.
The next That man is not going to beat that double homicide.

(01:07:27):
Yeah, but just in case, I mean it's, it's enough case they all
what I'm saying. The.
Bullet the bullets came from thelike they got shot from the
inside and they just went aroundand shot up the car and none of
the bullets matched up where where these dudes got hit man
nothing So just nothing they saying is matching up.

(01:07:50):
Hey, silly. Well, you know what ain't silly?
God damn. The new Kanye and Jay-Z.
That's right. Bow Wow and Soulja Boy.
Boy, they got a joint album on the way.
Come on, Frasier. I know you used to.
You. You never hit that dance before.
Phrase. Don't tell me you never hit that

(01:08:11):
dance before. Don't tell me you weren't in
college or high school. You, I know you were middle
school. I was around it a lot.
You had the headband. On.
Come on, stop it man. He's.
Super he's Superman. You had you had the two
headbands on the big ass T-shirt.
I wasn't a part of the soldier. I wasn't a part of the soldier

(01:08:34):
Bad Soulja Boy wave. So you ain't had a big ass
listed. I no hell no.
I never had the basing. Yeah, yeah, that *** Man, shake
that booty, man. Famous for YouTube.

(01:08:54):
You will always be famous for YouTube.
And Bow Wow was hot when we was kids.
Bow Wow was hot when we was younger.
You know, I'm saying he did his thing.
You did he trying to. I mean, well, you was probably
what, 30, you old motherfucker, Fuck you.
Nah, but. I'm trying to think of the

(01:09:17):
sounds that I. Like the album is probably going
to suck most likely. I'm trying to think of a song
that I like. That one, That one.
Had hell of shit when he was coming up.
He did. But it was to me, it was for
like kids and like little teeny bobbers and shit like that.
Because I never. Thank you, That thank you with

(01:09:38):
jacket edge. Oh yeah, we was.
Yeah, that thank you. *** that shit popped up on my playlist
when I was going to Tennessee. I'm like, oh shit, like. ***
listen to that because of Jagged.
Yeah, that bitch was cooking though, and that way I had some

(01:09:59):
nice on, you know, so fast across the globe.
Yeah, yeah, about that shit, man.
He had his little like bike movie, like bike movie as a kid.
Was the shit like bike movie as a kid, He said.
Make me like bike, Yeah. What the fuck y'all talking

(01:10:44):
about man? Boy had two.
Heads man, kiss kiss you throughthe phone.
I gave. I gave you that one.
And crank that and swag on. Come on man, Get that man, It's
3. Yeah, that's what I say.

(01:11:04):
Crank that. Yeah, I give.
I give him the three, the three.Man, don't do that.
YouTube sensation. That's what made YouTube
sensations YouTube sensation. God.
Damn. Are you?
So are you actually? Are you actually looking forward
to that collaboration? I'm going.
I'm going to laugh at it. I know I am.

(01:11:25):
I'm not ready to go. I'm not looking forward to.
I probably. Forget because Bow Wow, Bow Wow
now he's so lame. Bow Wow is lame.
Like I see they they had him hosting certain little shit.
Like I didn't start seeing him more on my videos, like when I'm

(01:11:48):
scrolling on Facebook or Instagram or some shit like
that. Like I see he's he's for some
reason become irrelevant again for whatever reason, which, you
know, still big ups to him, but he's I think.
He's just grown now and he can'treally rap about the stuff he
used to rap about or act like that because he was really me.
What? He, 35.

(01:12:10):
For yeah, 3536, somewhere aroundthere.
Well, Speaking of Little Bow Wow, his Big Brother, his Big
Brother Jermaine Dupri, he's outthere promoting stripper clubs
and shit like that, So D1 Louisiana finest out there, he

(01:12:33):
said. So his brother, Jermaine Dupri,
got upset that I chose to publicly oppose what he's
publicly promoting. Say there's a clear cultural
divide and he's talking about that.
He just don't want this to be something that you promote to

(01:12:53):
the people and expect it to be right and then wonder why our
industry is the way it is at this point.
That's kind of how I took that saying.
So my question to you all, do you think he's right on this,
even though, you know, who doesn't enjoy seeing ass popping

(01:13:13):
and titties bouncing? But do you think it it should be
over for that type of stuff? I know he's not saying this
completely, but this is just my question.
Do you think it should be over for that type of stuff?
Now that we're older, now that some of us have daughters, you
know, things like that, how we feel about hip hop.

(01:13:36):
What's the difference? I.
Understand what he's saying. Yeah, what's the difference?
Like, shit, it was strippers in the 70s.
It was strippers in the 80s. I think he was talking about
last night. I'm talking about for hip hop,
like the stripper songs that specifically made for strip
clubs. I mean, I, I feel like
everything has evolved, you knowwhat I'm saying?

(01:13:58):
Like bro, I'm 33 years old and certain songs come on, you know
what I'm saying? And I'll be like, man, I don't
want to hear this shit like. Pussy the baby.
Got a song. He's like the baby.
Got a song. Where in the first?
In the first verse? In his first?
Baby. Bars I stick in my I stick my

(01:14:20):
Dick in their booty and make herdo something.
Yeah, yeah, man, that was fire. That was fire, that.
Was fire bro like I'm like you know what I'm saying the *** get
down like you know what I'm saying I have a good time like
but I mean I don't I don't know I don't know Terry the music

(01:14:43):
shit I. Understand what he's saying to
an extent, you know, because he Saints basically saying like his
Jermaine the prison, it's 50s and he's talking about how
Jermaine Dupri said, you know, he was spending $10,000 every
Monday for 20 years and you know, he added that up.
He's like that's $10 million. He was just like, you know, like

(01:15:05):
that's a really a gross waste ofmoney.
I'm trying to make it seem like the thing.
To do with the territory though,but that's what come with the
territory. Until somebody break that.
Until someone breaks. That and that's what he's saying
basically. Is it?
Is it a reason to fix because they say what's broke don't fix
it all. Right, man, But at 50 or what

(01:15:27):
I'm, what I'm understanding is like, because I would still go
to a strip club if I was, you know, in my 50s, I wouldn't sit
up here and promote it like, Hey, I'm about to go to the
strip club. Hey man, who want to come or
spend 10? Bands on that motherfucker.
Yeah, I understand what you're talking about.
Promoting pushing it out there. You too old to really be pushing

(01:15:48):
it? I'm not.
I ain't been in that bitch. I'm a promote it.
Like the fuck if I love basketball, *** I hope I love to
go watch it. I'm a promote that shit.
I'm not. But that is different if what if
you know you have a daughter anda daughter and a daughter grow.

(01:16:08):
The daughter grows up and sees you promoting it from a old
video or a old music thing. You know what I mean?
Or as she's growing up, sees that and may not ever talk to
you about it. So she might think, oh, that's
what daddy like. Let me push forward to trying.
To do it like girls who do this.Yeah I feel like people in that

(01:16:32):
type of industry y'all should have like and this is outside
looking in but like if I was in that type of industry and I was
a rapper and I got all type of bitches and shit up in my video
I would definitely preach at home.
Like this shit is the reason whywe got all of this money.

(01:16:52):
Like I'm only doing this for it's like a job.
Like look at it as a job. Try not to look at it as a
lifestyle because if you can getthem to look at it, people do
all type of dumb ass shit. People got parents whose
janitors and. But are you toilet?
But are you lying to your child or telling the truth?

(01:17:14):
You know what I'm saying? If it's the truth.
Depends on how you look at it bro.
It comes with the territory. Don't depend on how you look at
it. A lot.
A lot it. Comes with the territory Rappers
have been rapping for how long? And then all the rappers videos.
You got big bitches shaking their asses bro.
Like that's what they do. Are you a video vixen or are you

(01:17:35):
going to go work in? And D1 acknowledge that as well.
But like you said, at some point, you know what, like it's
we've been promoted going on 20 years now and it's 20 plus
years. And we already look at the state
of the industry now every, everyfemale rapper come out talking
about they could. That's the only.

(01:17:57):
That's the main line. But but if we get that's why we
don't need more, that's why we don't need more rappers at 50
plus years old promoting it because we already got the 20
plus years old and the youngins doing it.
So he's saying at some point it gets old.
You know what I'm saying? At 50 plus years old, what else?

(01:18:17):
You didn't even hear me too to promote.
That's like too short right now.Too Short is doing interviews,
you know he still ain't out hereyelling bitch and all that other
shit. Understandable, but what else
this is out there to promote? So Jermaine Dupri is not a a a
well known producer, a well known songwriter.

(01:18:38):
Larry, yeah, what you saying? Create something.
Yeah, you saying I was just talking about drop?
A new wave, OK. Or, or promote, you know, black
colleges promote, you know, celebrations that people can
come in and celebrate hip hop, you know, promote help saving

(01:18:58):
people in hip hop who are broke right now.
You know, like that type of stuff, like like 50 plus and you
and hip hop and you still rich people expect you to be at that
point like Jay-Z and and and andyou know, Doctor Dre and all.
No, he's not, but he's not. And that's the problem.

(01:19:21):
You're 50 years old still actinglike I'm trying to explain that
you're 50 years old still actinglike you were when you were God
damn 25 and 30. Hip hop need growth.
You're promoting the same shit that you were promoting way back
then. Yeah.
We, we need growth. I'm not saying that I don't, you

(01:19:45):
know, like I got a problem with it.
I'm just saying I see from that point of view someone is saying,
yo, my brother, 50 years old, man, you need to be teaching us,
promoting. Strip club is.
Is that something that has to bepublicly announced?
Because if I'm calling you my brother, you know what I'm

(01:20:05):
saying? Like you low key shit no.
I think he started off with, I think he started off with
brother, just because of who he is, He he's going to start like
if he was talking to you, he would interrupt you by brother,
brother, brother. Let me hold on, brother.
Like I think yeah, yeah, that's just him.
You know what I mean? So.

(01:20:25):
They ain't got like, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It ain't like Bow Wow and and and Jermaine Dupri or some shit.
Like, yeah, you know what? I'm.
Saying that would be a difference 'cause I really
couldn't find no research on them, Yeah 'cause I'm like, who
the fuck is this *** Like, yeah.Yeah, I I just think and, and
now, so I'm going to kind of ease off on on the Jermaine
Dupri part. I want to get into something

(01:20:47):
else and then we can wrap it up.I just think from leaving this
topic, I think that needs to be done overall for the black
community period. That's why I get what he's
saying, because the hip hop community is the black
community, even though it goes further out to different

(01:21:07):
cultures out there. We got culture vultures, we got
people wanting to be like us andthis and that.
Of course it brings music, it brings power, it brings vibes,
it brings dancing, it brings creativity.
You know, a whole vibe. So why not promote a positive
vibe to help motherfuckers get up, to help motherfuckers be

(01:21:30):
something. Because even in the 90's, the
golden ages, you had *** with attitude.
You had the dog pound, you had bad boy Death Row.
You had Biggie Tupac, like all these motherfuckers.
We had iced tea. But I ain't get to that part

(01:21:51):
though. Yes, you had Tribe Called Quest.
That's what balance everything out.
We had Tribe even Tupac he'll beon this shit, but he balance
himself out with Brenda's got a baby with dear Mama with I ain't
mad at you. It was a violence.
Every record wasn't about fucking the bitch and and
nothing in the pussy and and killed a *** The other day.

(01:22:14):
And yeah, the fuck the OPS and I'll dig up his grave.
And it wasn't that it wasn't. I'm gonna make this look cool,
Tupac seem like a *** I care. But if you push me, I'm gonna go
there. That's what he gave me on all
the albums. Biggie was a storyteller.
Let me tell y'all, some story may or may not be true, but it's

(01:22:35):
going to be interesting because of my word play.
Then you got Tribe Called Quest,who's trying to put into your
mind what we need to go to from here.
What can make us better? You know what I'm saying?
You had black sheep who was in amix of certain things, like it
was so many different people common, like you just had so

(01:23:00):
many different and you had the music just blend in.
So I think things like that was the good part.
Now we barely have that. And if we do have it, it don't
get the same promotion as the others.
As to in the 90s, it'll be a whole groove and everyone would
feel it. Remember back in the day when

(01:23:21):
motherfucker used to say that here?
Oh them *** from up north, you know, they listen to that boom,
boom, boom. Oh them *** out West, you know,
they, they fuck with that goddamn Gotti hard out there.
You in the same city, but *** fuck with shit differently.
You knew that. Oh them *** on the South, they
always bumping that goddamn Jeezy out there.

(01:23:44):
So we don't have that anymore. It's not like that.
It's everybody like even if theydo live it sound the same.
But well, listen to young MCC nomore.
We usually got damn Glock 50 andyou listen to both of them.
They sound the same, It's like. What the fuck?
All of them I I heard one. Of these dudes for the.

(01:24:07):
Past 5-6 years or longer? That sounds different from the
all of them shooting at the OPS.All of them.
All of them on pills, all them big scammers, foolishness.
All of them wearing the same choker chains and same tight
jeans. Yeah, look, all of them on the
same fucking shit for two days in a row.

(01:24:28):
That would have been looking like some type.
I ain't going to lie, some of us.
Like, you know, it's just like they looking at Jermaine Dupri,
cause Jermaine Dupri, you know, heads, money, whatever.
He's still the elder statesman in hip hop at this point.
It's time to teach. Yeah, become the master.

(01:24:50):
That's what Jay-Z did. He told *** how to be
billionaires. That's what he did well.
Maybe that was a different way of just trying to like, motivate
them, you know what I'm saying? Like I think so.
Yeah, why not? It just all depends on
perspectives and how people lookat it.

(01:25:11):
Because I mean, when it was first brought to me, it's like,
I mean shit, it's like shit, whogives a fuck?
Like it's JD, he's a part like this *** life is still, he
probably still live in a fast lane of some sort.
Like when he go out, yeah, the *** might hear the cigar lounge

(01:25:33):
or some shit, but the *** still going to step out to the clubs
to. I mean, that's what made him who
he is like. But that's the same thing.
That's like right now, like you drink right now.
If you used to sit here and be drinking in front of your
daughter all the time and she sit back and you know, OK, well,

(01:25:56):
I see my daddy drinking all the time.
I'm thinking this cool. That's that's what we talking
about. It's not about the strip club.
Going to the strip club at a certain age, you'd be like,
damn, I can't do this around my daughter and damn, I can't do
this, you know, around certain people.
I can't promote this to to the youth.
So it's not about because your child is part of the youth.

(01:26:19):
Yeah, your help molding the music that she's going to end up
loving at some point. What direction do you want to go
or do you want to stick with, hey, I'm just doing this because
at this point he don't have a small daughter.
He all his kids grown, right? You know what I mean?
So now you're just doing this because you just doing this.

(01:26:44):
It will, it will be, it will be lame as hell if we seen Hove do
that. It'll be lame as hell if we've
seen Hove doing that. He's trying to move and make
business moves and shit. And I think that's what made a
lot of other people fall back tokind of do what they doing.
Like when you see a *** finally doing some, some real *** shit,

(01:27:08):
like damn, I need, I need to geton my shit now.
And I think that's what made a lot of motherfuckers do that,
you know, and you, you look at someone like Jermaine Dupri is
like, yes, you've been here longenough.
Even Hove gave you your flowers.He came to your so so death
anniversary in Atlanta. He he came by, did some songs

(01:27:28):
with you. That's because you're special.
And when you have that much, youknow, I like I, I get what
you're saying, Frasier, like he's just doing him.
But at some point, where is the like you said everything
evolved. You said that, Yeah.
Where's the evolution from him? Where's the, you know what I'm

(01:27:49):
saying? Where is it that that that can
show that's benefiting the youth, benefiting those who are
listening to this shit? Because music can take over the
brain. We've seen how music hype
motherfuckers up to kill people.We've seen how music hype people
up to get high. Like and and I'll say this and

(01:28:09):
I'll leave it at the end. If you smoke a lot and I leave
and I stopped smoking for years and years and now and I think I
told you like like this before, no high is better than a natural
high. If you get a natural high, ain't
nothing that weed can do for youthat can match a natural high.

(01:28:32):
If you hit the motherfucking lottery for 400 million, ain't
nothing we can do that can matchthat natural high right there.
Nothing right, You know what I'msaying?
So when someone start getting natural highs and they find ways
to get it and they quit smoking marijuana and then they come to

(01:28:55):
you go fresh. Seriously, bro, like just can
you think about stop smoking like period.
Can you plea and and that's not him like I'm embarrassing you.
That's more like I'm seeing somegood shit on this side and I
thought I was just like you. I thought it wasn't for me, but

(01:29:17):
I know you going to do you because you so stubborn.
You going to be you. But it's like I was stubborn
too. And I I let go and then I came
over this side got this natural eye and my life is 10 times
better. I'm seeing shit clearly now.
This is the shit where they saying with brain watch, if we
do this and start doing that when we wake up in the morning

(01:29:39):
and have that like that, I'm telling you, and you might be
sitting there, *** I'm not. What the fuck?
Hell no, *** I'm a do me, you know what I'm saying?
I like I smoke mag. I don't bother nobody.
I don't fuck with nobody. I ain't doing nothing.
I ain't getting locked up. I ain't robbing nobody.
I just like to smoke my shit, goto work, come on, spend time

(01:29:59):
with my family. And it's like, I can respect
that. But at the same time, suppose
you did quit. Suppose you did get the natural
high just from being around the family.
And then you get that natural high of traveling and doing
other things that you never imagined you doing with the

(01:30:21):
family. Not going to Vegas, but we going
to Paris this year. I want my baby to see Paris.
I want now you thinking, you thinking romantic?
Now I'm going to go there and eat at this fancy ass restaurant
because now we started watching the Food Network and they was
doing this thing on this rack. Now you got positive shit coming

(01:30:43):
out. That's a little bit different.
So if that's what I think D1 wastrying to do with Jermaine
Dupri, I think he was so open, so sober when he's talking and
thinking because he don't drink,don't smoke.

(01:31:04):
He's a Christian guy. He raps about Jesus in the
Bible. Not saying he's right about
anything, but in his mind he's pure, honest, and speaking for
pure love through the Word of God.
Through the word of God. Of course.
Let me add that I ain't going toput no words in his mouth

(01:31:26):
though. It could be just him directly
talking, but I think he means good with what he's saying and
he's not trying to be an assholeso it comes to that point.
Like, do you listen to someone when you realize they're
serious, or do you just keep doing you?
He put it in the most respectfulway.

(01:31:47):
Type of person. What'd you say, Terry?
My fault. He put it in the most respectful
way, too. That's what I'm saying.
It was respectful. I didn't see anything bad about
it. So yeah man, let us know y'all
out there how y'all feel about this situation.
Was it disrespectful? Was it a different way he could
have came at him? Or do y'all agree like it's time

(01:32:09):
for a different change out there.
We need to do something better just so our kids get up 'cause
I'm tired of all our rappers. I ain't never seen these many
rappers get locked up, get looking for so many trials and
all that type of shit going on. Yeah, and getting killed.
I'm hearing this shit every week.
Such and such rapper from Atlanta was killed today.

(01:32:30):
I didn't even know who he was, but clearly he was an upcoming,
upcoming rapper, but he couldn'tmake.
It. And that happens every day in
Chicago. Upcoming rapper or or becoming
rapper and they get killed. It's just crazy, man.
We have all that, We have all that and that.
That's why music needs to change, because it's just

(01:32:52):
promoting the the negative shit or the shit that leads to death.
It's these 90s babies and these 2000 babies.
No, it's the 2000 babies. It's the 2000 babies.
Anything under 30. Yeah, don't do that.
So ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us for this

(01:33:13):
week's podcast, 90th episode. Who's Matt Terry?
Got anything to say before we get out of here?
And shout out to everybody TuneIn to this is Mac network.
I'm Groundhog Terry, and that's prac a Frazier.

(01:33:33):
Thanks for you. You didn't show.
I didn't even give Frazier the chance to talk you already.
I I'm trying to sit here. You're saying what I'm saying,
but I'm trying to give him the time.
Well, you got anything to say tothe?
People, oh Lord Jesus. Jesus crap, Frasier, you got

(01:33:57):
anything to say? Well, you want to end the show
too. God damn.
Hey man, shout out to the people.
Always appreciate you fellas forhaving me on the show.
No doubt, No doubt, man. Let's have a good week.
Let's have a good week. Let's do it, you fucking
Hoosiers. I'm your host, Mack.

(01:34:18):
That's Groundhog Terry. That is Frasier back there,
ladies and gentlemen. But Terry already said it for
the third fucking time. Love y'all, y'all be cool and
we'll catch up with y'all. I don't know, man.
Hopefully we can do something. I don't know.
God damn. Next week, sometime later on

(01:34:38):
this week or something like that, I don't know man, but
y'all be cool out there. We'll catch up.
Peace out. Hey, don't forget to follow us

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