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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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We've been known to bust up a few parades. Today,
the payment Agerie heads for west as we take a
chapter and advice from Horace Greeley, who said, go west,
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young man, And so we did. And we headed west
across the Mississippi, the southbound southwestern bound into Colorado, and
then even further south into Arizona. And we searched for
this mythical creature named Wayward Sun, a favorite son and
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a brilliant son. On paint dot TV. We have only
smart people, folks, as silly people don't last. They really don't.
So I think I had a fantastic sit down with
Wayward Son and a guy who's been around, who started
on the east coast New York metro area, northern New Jersey,
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the hot bed one of the levels of a hell,
as I said, spent some time there as well, and
then we traveled westbound to find him and tackle him.
For a couple I guess a couple of hours. When
you slice it down, you I look at the time
on this not bad. So that's how you'll spend your
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a Thursday here with me and fantastic conversation and a
plethora of different subjects and off to the races. That's
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Maria Albanize if you're not on pay dot tv. Good
place to be, good place to be, plain and simple,
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take care and God bless. I'm guessing myself slugging him in. Hello, Hi,
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this is Gym from Ice.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We're conducting door to door surveys and giving away freebies
if you let us, if you let us check out
your house.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's so funny you mentioned that. Man. First of how
are you doing? I'll pick it up. Everything good, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But you're like, in are you in Phoenix? Man? It's
like one hundred and twenty there it is.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yes, we're literally So when we lived here, we lived
a little bit outside of town. But you know, over
the years, everything just sprawled out right, so we had
the advantage of being a little bit away from it.
So my daughter and son bought in an older neighborhood
and it's more like central you know area, not the
city city, but you know, suburban you know stuff. It
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is just a heat island here. It's going to be
one hundred and seventeen today.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We rolled into town about five o'clock yesterday or so.
It was about one thirteen. I went out this morning
to throw some trash out and I was just I
was like, it just felt like somebody was stabbing me,
the sun hitting my back, you know. And that's one
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reason we moved. I couldn't deal with this anymore. I
don't know how the hell I did it twenty eight years.
You know, it got worse, though, it did get worse
since the heat island. Nothing cools down anymore. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's all like you know, desert and cement.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That is concrete, asphalt and cement and building. So what
happens it's just you know, I mean, you know, you
stand next to a brick wall, you had a brickouse
right the sun facing side. You know, you go out
there ten o'clock at night and it's still warm, right,
So yeah, nothing cools down out here. And like I
had mentioned to you in a note, you know, a
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couple of days ago, I said, uh, you know, no
regrets about moving, you know, three years ago. Of course,
you know, everything comes with its complications, but uh yeah,
I mean we we you know, it's nice to be
able to sleep at the window open, yeah, you know,
and and nobody's going to come in. Yeah, exactly exactly.
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But but it's so funny you mentioned the ice stuff
because I was just kind of thinking about a couple
of things that you know, popped into my head or
I shared with you uh here and there, you know,
knowing you know, obviously you can't respond to everything, right,
so but that ice stuff that was going on locally
by me up heure Yeah, And I was just and
I was just like, whoa, you know, so I said,
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you know, let me just take a quick you know,
make some notes here real quick. I didn't turn this
into an essay, but it's like, so in June, we.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Had uh careful when you see careful when you say
essay in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That's right, yeah, yeah, so so so they So the
thing that shocked me the most is the one you know,
that I sent to you, which is literally just the
closest town over to us where we occasionally pull.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Not a case where we've got to go for things.
You know, there's a little grocery system, yes, yeah, yeah, right,
I mean, and you know he's got a captive audience, right,
uh so, and it's a recreational area in the summer,
so prices are high, right, And he's a small operation,
but he's he does gouge people, right, But he's what
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kind of things.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
General Sometimes the general store's got to hike up the price,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Right, right, So it's not like unexpected. So but my
point is we go into tablet, we can't do like
our whole week's shopping there would go broke and they
don't have everything we need. So but it's still close by,
you know, and it's and it's this tiny look at this,
barely three thousand people in this community, right and so
you know everybody knows everybody, and not that we're down
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in that part of the community, but that's the closest
town over because we actually live in county uh and
up by us we have our own little village, you
might say, our own little hamlet you know, in and
around the lake, which is you know, another area. But
there's no economy up there other than you know, there's
no commerce up there where I'm trying to say, except
for a little restaurant and a general and another general
store on the lake. Right. Okay, So anyway, they pulled
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this kid over. This this ice agent rolls in. According
to the story in the Herald, this kid, these two
kids are in the parking lot probably you know, there's
a pizza joint there, there's a subway, right. Uh. They're
probably you know, getting something to eat or doing something.
Maybe they were waiting for a ride, who knows. But
some guy in the car rolls up, as the story goes, uh, nothing,
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you know, just plain clothes, nothing in the car or anything,
and says, you know, where you guys from And they're like, well,
we're from out of town. He's like, you said, and
the kids down the stands, you know, they answered obviously
because they probably didn't respect anything. And and the guys like,
he's like, so you llegal here, you know, immigrants or whatever.
They're like yeah, you know. Well the next thing you
know that they're throwing them in the car. And other
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people were watching this. So the hispanic you know people
that were there, uh, and and they were like, whoa,
what's going on? Right? So I was just it really
caught me off corkcu I'm going, like, so these guys
are rolling around, you know, even up here where we are,
and you know, you think, like I said on the
last time we were on uh you know, we talked,
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I said, you can run, but you can't hide. You know,
you really can anymore, right, and to the extent that
you know, you think, like I get away from all
the craziness, and you just you just can't, you know.
But anyway, yes, so they grabbed those guys. No, I
have no idea whatever happened. Lest the way, the article
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said they were heading to Denver, and then there was
there's a uh a granted place in somewhere over nearby
and Durango some some miles away, and they grabbed about
seventeen guys out of there. And then there were the
two I just mentioned about. And then there were a
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couple of guys heading out to the Ghost of Springs
to do construction work, and they got they got mapped.
So you know, we got about twenty twenty one or
something like that, you know, folks just in one corridor
along one highway, you know, so that's where we're at.
And then It's funny you.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, because like as you've been so you know, you know,
putting it so bluntly and eloquently in the last week.
I can't remember what show it was, or you know,
you mentioned it more than once. And that's just simply
the fact that every which way you go, they're using
something as an excuse, a ruse to just clamp down
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on John Q public and our ability to about and
do things freely and not be surveilled. And so just
as that details and so that's the stuff going on
down the street right and all around the ruse or
the guys of Immigration Enforcement. And then I was just
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reading another article. I like to read a couple of
things about, you know, what's going on state and federal
government stuff. I used to do some work in that
area in the tech field, so you know, it's always
been an area where you go look because you know
there's things going on there. And I was just reading
about some some Lexus Nexus CEO or somebody put an
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article in there, one of those kind of not paid
for but you know, kind of promotional things, because this
is where all these you know, dopes get their information from. Right.
I used to say that when I used to travel.
It's like everybody's reading a trade magazine and then they
get off the flight and they come back to work
the next day and they got a great idea, right,
so you know, and the executive of you know, bunch
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and and so I'm reading this article and the gals
talking about, uh, the need for you know, there's huge
amounts of money now right. Uh. Probably I could just
see all the consultancy companies and the Microsofts and everybody
besides palent here. Everybody's just drooling right now. Oh, we
got so much opportunity to do so much business with
the government now. And there's this article in there, and
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it can and it does dubtail into what you're saying.
So we have you know, the feet on the street.
You know, let's collect up the illegal immigrants of this
and that, and I did it. You know, you want
to arrest people that need to be arrested if they're
doing bad things. I mean, I'm not stupid. And then
on but on the other front, you've got them, You've
got the business side now just drooling about getting inside
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to do more work. And what this article was going
into was, uh, how doge right? Uh that the identity
side of that needs to really be robust. So well,
last time we talked, I talked about disparate data and
stuff be in a old place, and I'm not going
to get technically right, but it does connect to what
you were saying. And so under the guise of having
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to connect all these systems together and make access easier
for you and me and all that kinds of stuff,
they want to use start doing things like much more
efforts to identify who you are if you're doing or
conducting yourself in any sort of government business. Right. And
one of the things they're talking about here is you
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start to read this stuff and it's totally dystopian, right,
It's like words matter, Like you've always said, words matter.
And so it says here behavioral biometrics, liveliness detection, multi
factor authentication, and deep faith detection. But two the things
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that bother me is the behavioral biometrics and the liveliness detection.
You see what I'm saying. I mean, these people are
literally surveiling your body. We all, I mean, people have
been talking about this for a while, right, but this
is what That's why.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I'm I told Maria many times and my wife that's
why I pissed my pants. I won't look for a
bathroom where I'll just pissed my pants because they're like
if they're detecting me, Like, wow, that guy's really running hot,
that's his story. We can't tell me angry or what's
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going on. I think he pissed himself. That's my That's
how I fight back, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
these guys, it's funny. They can't even handle basic tasks,
but they're going to figure out body biometrics.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I have all this technology and then they paid Like
look at you say they pay these idiots. Uh, you know,
they recruit morons and they're like step through the detective plate. Oh,
step through again. We think we saw something. It's like,
I'm getting fucking irradiated here pouts three mile Island. I'm
trying to get on a flight. So who's going to
run the programs? You know what I mean? Right? Right,
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it's it's it's funny. It's funny, but fuck, don't make
a lot of money. You know, not a lot of
people talked about it. But real quick, since you talked
about ice.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They had a bounty system, they had a yanket, they
were putting out ICE would hand out two hundred dollars
bonuses for each immigrant that you deported, god, as long
as they were let me get it, ICE would hand
out two hundred dollars bonuses for each immigrant deported within
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seven days of being arrested, and one hundred dollars for
those deported within two weeks. That was an initial memo,
and then they pulled it back. People like you put
bounties on people's heads and they're like, yeah, it's a matter,
and then they're like, you know, maybe not what you know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Look at like you were saying the other day whatever.
I don't know if it's just today show or.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
The other thing too real quick, real quick, Yeah, I
read in the I think it was the barons the
other day that they're saying, hey, man, if you're here illegally,
I just couldn't fucking believe it. If you're here illegally
and you didn't file your taxes, that's that's the reason
to be deported. It's like, motherfucker, if you're here illegally,
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what the fuck do you file taxes for? And being
here illegally is reason enough to be deported?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah? Nothing makes sense, nothing is I don't think anything
is meant to hold on.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I got to get my ten forty easy going here before.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, you're you're here illegally,
probably working cash jobs, right, and and they're worried about
your saying tax.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I'm already to adopt the illegal alien fucking model, you know,
cash and barter and fuck off. You know. Yeah at
this point, you know, so go ahead. I interrupted you.
I apologize sometimes I do.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, no, no, I was just saying that I was
just agreeing with you that you know, these these guys
you know, coming in here, and to your point making
that a lot of these guys that are working to
do this have been I think you said they're felons,
you're thugs, you know, And I mean it's just the
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government's hired these kinds of people, you know, throughout history, right,
I mean, they're.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Off from who I see they're recruiting today was on
the top of Drudge. I still look at Drudge. I'll
probably look at him forever, says agency recruiting senior citizens.
Really yeah, and what's his name? Signed up too? They
were pumping it up. Superman. Dean Kane said he joined
he did a big propaganda video and I know Dean.
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I sent him a Twitter message, Yes, yes, Dean, what happened?
What have they got on you? But I haven't heard
back from him, But yeah, they must have something on Dean.
But he's a smart guy. But I'm sure he was
paid very well to do a video scene. I joined.
I just joined up with ice guys, you know, like
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Captain America type thing. Yeah, yeah, like fucking Superman. He
was Superman, right, Yeah. I just want to know if
he I just want to know if he banged that chick.
What was her name? She was kind of hot.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I can't remember her name yet, but.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Then she went down. Well, anyhow, we'll just stay on topic.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
My dad, my dad, when he was alive, he had
a thing for her. Yeah, brunette, right, brunette right, of course.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Terry Hatcher, Terry Hatcher.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, my dad always
thought he was like, she's a good one. Didn't look
at one.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, but he was definitely Superman in that chick anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But yeah, so we had mentioned Uh so, I guess
it was really like end of July thirtieth or something.
I think it was the actual date, but that was
three years ago. We rolled into Colorado, so nice, no regrets,
you know, I mean, don't get me wrong. Every once
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in a while something goes to riot, like the son
of a gun. But then I come back down here
and I go, man, made the right decision, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So dude, yeah, me, you this is it man. We're
going to get the We're gonna get the mystery machine going.
Okay me you Dana right just had a new hip
put in right, I think, yeah, Dana, you got a
new knee. Yeah, like the fucking fantastic four right, everybody's yeah.
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You guys like Steve Austin all Ice law enforcement recruits.
H let's go through a drug screening, but they're they're
potentially waving the medical screening. Wow might and they may
waive the physical fitness test. Dude, we're in man, oh right, Yeah,
we go in here and all these guys are hunting
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a murderers, pedophiles, gang members, and we'll literally be at
Starbucks and be like, dude, this is our Ice right here,
Ice La, where's my paycheck? Where's my paycheck? And I
want to join a union? This is crazy, bro. Fifty
dollars bonus h really yeah, student loan uh, forgiveness options. Wow,
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it's big. But here's the problem, right, they're going to
there's there's nothing on here, nothing on here, whatsoever about
passing a background check.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And what they've been doing is like a lot of
these criminals that were working for the Justice Department with
proud boys and stuff. You know, they're like higher criminals, thugs. Yeah,
they're the ones. That's why they have the everybody's wearing
the face of coverings because it's like, hey, wasn't that
due to January sixth? Start in trouble. These It's like
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these these actors are out there, these in their criminals
and they're working for these guys. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah yeah, well but look yeah no, no, but it
is relative. I mean because as just start to see, right,
I mean I can't. I'm I'm I'm blown away. I
just see I'm stumbling for words, really i am, because
I'll I get to this point and you know where
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you're like, I look at the culmination of my life
and the certain little things that have happened, and and
I've always been watching my back ever since I was
a kid, right because I knew nobody had my back
really and so you so when you're you know, so
you're always kind of saying, what's going on here, what's
going on there? You know, you're trying to stay ahead
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of the curve, even though when I didn't consciously know
I was doing it right, You're like, I'm just trying
to stay ahead and trying not to fall behind. And
despite every effort that I made, and you know, it
made some gains and said, Okay, I got a little
bit of security in my life. I got you know,
a little bit. Uh, you know, I should be grateful
for and I am. But I swear to God, in
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the last three years, it is just disappearing faster than
I can believe it well to hold.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
On to what you know, it's high stress, man, when
you're under that condition, it's really high stress.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And the funny thing is, I I know you pretty well.
You're like you're like a man's man, a dude's dude.
You'll eat it and you won't share it because you
want peace. You want peace and uh and uh prosperity
with your family. So we have to there's a number
of I call them sin eaters. There's a there should
be one sin eater in your family. And it's usually
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the you know, the front, the tip of the spear,
and you. I mean, there's shit going on right now
in my life that nobody in this family knows about.
And I'll just fucking you know, I'm like, all right,
I'll handle it. I'll handle this stuff. I'll handle that stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And it eats away at you. This is what I'm
telling you, man, this is why we fucking die early.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well. Yeah, as I mentioned too, and I've said this
to everybody on saying.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Or not trying to bring stuff, not trying to bring
the crowd down.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Man, No, no, no, no, but but but yeah, I mean,
I mean, take take it from somebody who knows. I mean,
I did my damnest to try to stay somewhat ahead.
I was saying, stay ahead of things. Most of my life.
I had a like I said, you got a lot
on your plate. There's a lot going on. You gotta
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at times, you know, the work accelerates and you've got
a lot of pressure. There's always a looming thread of
you know, losing your job for some reason or another.
That kind of thing I never had. You know, who's
really got job security? Right? I mean, in my life,
if you didn't make things, if you didn't make your numbers,
you could be gone. Right. So it wasn't like, hey,
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I just all I need to do is show up
and be a good employee. Now you got to make
money on top of it, right, I mean, anybody owns
a business knows that. So although I didn't own the business,
I lived under the same similar conditions. Right. It's like
if you don't if you don't produce revenue, you're not
useful to us. You're not going to stick around you, right.
So so you when you have that going on all
the time, and so that could be a quarter, right,
(24:43):
Suddenly a quarter of your year is so filled with
you know, you've got to get something completed and done,
a deal done or whatever and closed, because if you don't,
you're worried about what if you'll be around next quarter? Right,
And like you said, you just eat that stuff. If
I brought that home every day, My I'm liking to
be like, oh my god, you know what's going on here.
(25:03):
We got to be able to pay the mortgage or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It never have ever your shit too?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, yeah, like we were just here before maybe an
hour ago, right, And this morning, I was uh making
breakfast uh for her and me and told her I
had to call and all that. And we're at our daughter,
so I don't you know, things are not where they
normally are, right. So I'm in their kitchen and just
trying to get something together with some eggs and bacon
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and stuff. And I couldn't find a good knife to
cut something right. So she hears me complaining and I'm going, ah,
fuck another one, right, that kind of thing, right, And
then she hears me throwing shit in the sink. I go, now,
I got to clean four knives, right, And she's like
and then she looked at me a little bit and
she's like, oh my god. She's like, can't you just
be happy? And I said, you don't get it if
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I don't let that ship out, right, I was talking
to myself. I wasn't yelling at her, right, It's like,
if I don't let that stuff out, you know, I
got to let something out. And that's like you know
what you were saying. It's like when you bury that stuff,
it does accumulate eventually and you pay the price for it.
And as I mentioned to you, and I'm not ashamed
to bring it up. It may be a topic you
(26:10):
want it or don't want to talk about today or not.
But you know, I mean, you know, six years ago,
I had a freaking heart attack. Yeah right, and you
know I remember, you know what I said to my wife.
I'm like, I was like I had it, and then
I didn't believe I was having it. And I'm laying
(26:31):
there in bed and she's like, you, okay, I just
go back to sleep as earthing's fun. And then I
get up again. I get up again, and then finally
I laid back down and then I passed out. And
then I wake up and I look at my watch.
I can't even remember. Really, you know, some time had
gone by, at least a half an hour, and this
is happening, and I'm going, oh my, and I said,
(26:52):
I said, you better take me as the hunt, which
I called it, and I said, no, just drive and
we drove, and out on the way there I'm praying.
I said, I'm like, God, just give me another day,
you know, give me one more day. Let me get
through this, right, And and I did, right, Thank God,
it wasn't that bad. But you know, once that happens,
you know you're you're a different person, right, I mean,
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you're like, holy god, you know, I'm you know, you
realize you're you're not You're not invincible anymore, right, So.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, it takes you back to what's his name? It's
a big one. Elizabeth. Yeah coming, you might be coming,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't don't worry.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
You go back to bed. I'm just gonna have a
heart attack here. You just take it easier.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I really did. Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's I'm not
even joking. Later on that I was trying to convince
myself because my because I said to my doctor, I said,
you know, once a lot, I got some chest pain.
And he's like, but where is it that, you know?
And I so over here because he goes, that's that
sounds like more like indigests. And I do have without
mentioned I do have. Now, I have a little bit
(27:59):
of an old sir. Fortunate doesn't bother me too much,
but it'll kick in everyone. So so he's like, it's
probably just your ulcer, you know. And so he had
put that in my mind. So when it was happening,
I'm going The first thing I did was takes the
man accid, right, which I don't normally take because I
don't normally have like the stomach stuff, right. I try
(28:21):
to eat pretty good, you know, and all that kind
of things. Well, so heads up, right, so you think it, oh,
I'm getting you know, and then you read you're like, yeah,
people have heart attacks, can have heartburn. That does happen,
and women's symptoms are different than men, and there's there's
(28:43):
similarities that they're different. But when my jaw started to
hurt and I had pain, and I started to feel
pain in my left arm like they always talk about,
and in my back, my upper back, I and and
then I started started to gravitate to the other side
of my jaw. I was like, no, this is real,
(29:03):
this is real. Yeah, And and I'm like I'm like
this is not good, you know. So yeah, so it's uh,
you know, you get to liver another day. But so yeah,
so look at I'm having a grand baby in October
or late September, so I'll be around for that. God Willie, right,
(29:24):
so you're kind of your blessings, you know. I mean,
look at the ship Dane has gone through and uh,
you know, and everybody everybody's got a story, right, we
all we all have something that's happened to us, so
not unique at all.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, it's good that you, you know, you just got
to make adjustments. Yeah, a lot of people out there
since Scam damn it, who have drilled down on their health.
They're like, all right, I gotta get serious about stuff,
you know, Yeah, you get serious, and you do. You
do have to get serious, you know if you want
to stay down.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah. Well, I mean I was gonna say you, I mean,
when you do the video, what can we see see
your face? Right? But you do? You know you look better.
I mean I don't know how you're feeling, but I
know I can tell you you lost some weight.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So the body is fighting me. The brain is trying
to win, you know. I mean that's the only way
I put it. I know it has nothing to do
with anything, but the old ways want to creep back.
But I'm like nah. And then I've really been behaving
and eating right and doing everything right, moving around a lot.
(30:33):
And then the other day I had like some beef
jerky which was really good, and I was like, oh,
I have a couple more beasts, and boy did that
fuck me up. My stomach was like, dude, you were
doing really well. My gut was like, you're doing so good,
and then you threw beef jerky at us, a lot
of beef jerky, and it turned everything upside down for
like four days, and I was like, Okay, I get
(30:56):
it now, I get it. Don't fucking do that. Don't
do that.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Them diet though, VM is going to be my my coach,
and yeah, I'm going to take with some of he
was some of he uh says about the meat and
stuff like that. I'm going to try that for a while,
but we have to ramp that up. So that's yeah,
gong in the next couple of days. I think I'll
launched that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, well good. So you know I had mentioned too
that you know, we started off and like with a
like like a ketogenic thing in eighteen It worked really
well for me and my wife too. I've stuck with it.
I stuck with it because it's not really a diet,
you know. But I think when VM's going with this too,
(31:43):
you've got to look at stop corn and the diet.
It's your lifestyle, you know, And and so everybody's got
an something's work better for others. Right, It's not one,
but I can tell you right now. Uh, my brother
in law, he's uh ten years old and May wasn't
making about seventy one. Yeah, he did the keto as
(32:04):
a diabetic. He wasn't on insulin, but he was taking
medications heavy most of his life drinker. He went on keto.
He lost fifty sixty pounds. Right now, he still looked
on the heavy side. It wasn't like he was slim
gym or anything, but that's a lot of weight to
lose as a diabetic. So so he did very well.
Then he moved and now for the last few years
he's been carnivore. So he's pretty much eats beef and
(32:28):
meat obviously, you know that kind of stuff, and butter,
you know, cheeses. I mean, some people like to keep
certain things out. But I look at it this way,
you know. I always tell people it's like, what's the
staple of your diet now, right, And it's that that
I don't need occasional. It's not like I don't need
a taco shell or you know, or I don't have
some ice cream once in a while or you know,
(32:51):
or have it whatever. Right, But when somebody says, like,
what do you basically it's like it's like you know, bacon, butter,
beef and eggs, you know, and I think that that
just people go like, oh, you know, doctors were card
That's why I said cardiologists are crazy, right, because it's
like they'll tell you, oh, that's exactly why you get
(33:13):
an art attack. And it's exactly the reason why you
won't get an art attack. Right. You know, it's all
the other craps, right, you pounded you know, chips and
stuff with seed oils and it. You know, we don't
need to go down that route hole, right, But but
you know, people like I eat fruit. You can't eat
a ton of fruit, you know, I mean you can't
eat either, like, oh, I hit a whole watermelon. No,
(33:33):
you can't. You can't do that every day.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's not healthy. There's too much sugar and and so yeah.
So I mean, so for me, I'm encouraging you to
go that route because I when I when I did this,
I'm proud to say, and I've kept it this way.
I only needed to lose probably around that time, like
thirty forty pounds or something like that. I lost that.
(33:59):
I've kept it off. I've learned how to eat right,
And even at my age, I managed to stay you know, fairly.
Something I got like you know, thirty thirty one inch waist.
But you get rid of that visceral fat like you know,
that's around your orders. That's the stuff that chokes you out. Yeah,
and that's what it's. So it's not about Hey, you know,
I look felt and I looked super you know, like
(34:19):
you know, like and not that you don't want to
maybe get that way, you know if you can't, right,
But but if you get you can get rid of
that around the middle there and inside that those parts.
That's the important thing. And so that's how I've stayed
healthy since the heart attack.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know. Is uh, it's a concern for you. You
don't want to go through that thing again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah. And the thing is the damage, right, And the
thing is the damage that I did to myself was
when I was younger. Yeah, you know, and and like
you said, because it's the same thing, right, you're you know,
you're running around, you're working late, you're maybe having to eat,
you know, while you're walking through an airport or something.
You get to a ho tell late at night or whatever, right,
(35:01):
or you come home from work and you just stressed
out and when having you know things, Yeah, so I'm
glad to hear it. So don't don't let let don't
let it turn into a hospital, because I can say
that right now, that's the last place I want to
spend any time. And my experience after getting knee done, uh,
(35:23):
you know, was just fine when when I did it.
But we've talked about a nauseam right, you know, the
end results didn't come out great, so but at least
I'm better. I feel better than I did this time
last year, and so we'll see where. We'll see if
I want to tackle that problem in the future. But
I'm getting around, getting around a lot more, you know,
(35:43):
you say so, well.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, give me the house stuff is for me. It's
I've always been kind of reactive. Something happens, you can
take care of it, but I don't know, I want
to be around. Here's my issue. Like I start to think,
oh fuck, and some other people might think this too,
(36:07):
or being the thought process, or perhaps I'm like, oh fuck, man,
I gotta try to I gotta try to be like
one of those old fucking guys who just won't die
because it's so fucked up. I'm like, this crew is
gonna need my wisdom for as long as I can
give it. Like I'm almost terrified to fucking like if
something should happen to me now, would be a disaster
(36:28):
for this crew because of you know what lies ahead.
But if I can fucking stretch it out thirty years
and still have my faculties, I take that, man. I
would take like eighty five or some shit, or eighty three.
I'd be happy with that, because it's like, all right, listen,
I've fucking done enough. I'm gonna be left alone. I
want to fucking die. I'm gonna go over here on
this rock and don't talk to me for a couple
(36:50):
of hours and then come fucking bag me and get
me out of here this kind of thing. Just give
me a whatever. I like to drink and up and
leave me alone. But I think I have to get
like in top shape because and also I can handle
stress better. And I plan on fucking causing a little
bit of trouble in the coming next coming years on
(37:13):
the show Man. I know they're gonna be gunning from it. Well,
they already are gunning for me. There's a lot of
shit going on. They don't want they don't want true tellers,
and it's I'm like, okay, you know what, I'll just
get in fucking top shape. I'll be like fucking Drago.
I'll be Radio Drago and should have just I'm ready
for it. So you know, I'm just gonna have to
fucking I already figured out and I talked to Marie
(37:36):
about this stuff. I'm gonna have to fucking I'll be
swinging until the last breath. I'll be fighting until the
last breath. That's my DNA. That's that's the way it's
gotta be. So if anybody wants to come for me,
that's cool. I'm fucking whatever. I'm ready, you know that.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Kind of thing. Yeah, And that's I'm happy to hear
that number one, because yeah, I mean, I'm happy that
you're you're being more upfront and getting stuff off your
mind and not just keeping it, you know, mulling it around.
Like yeah, well I know about that, but i can't
talk about it because I'm at the point now I'm
(38:15):
just so not from you, obviously, I'm saying so sick
of everybody bullshitting us to death, you know, and keeping
everybody in this gaze in confused state you got to.
You got to do that, you know, I mean, you know,
you know some of people would say, no, you don't,
and I get it, you know, maybe you know somebody's
(38:36):
got a gun to your head, You're goud have second thoughts.
But now I agree with you got to. You got
to keep going. I remember, Uh, now that has anything
to do with what you're trying to do. But I'm
just saying. The days that I would get slowed down
and I'd be tired, My god, I got to get
to work again today, I gotta get this done or
whatever it was. In the morning, I'd be getting ready
and on the side of the refrigerator we had a
thing and it was just said never never, never give up, right,
(38:59):
And I'd read that, you know, and uh, I said,
walk out of the house and the kids eating breakfast.
I'd be like, you know, I'm like, please say a
prayer for dad today. Make sure he does a good
job on his on his priest's meetings today or his
presentation or whatever. I got a big you know, like
I really you know, and you just get out of
the house and and you know, knock it out.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
But yeah, see, never never give up sign was inside
the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
That was my problem. As you're as you're attacking the
court at Briars, but I don't give up.
It's fun. Well, folks, who mean it's a Thursday, Today's
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We've been known to bust up a few parades. Today,
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chapter and advice from Horace Greeley, who said, go west,
(02:01):
young man, And so we did. And we headed west
across the Mississippi, the southbound southwestern bound into Colorado, and
then even further south into Arizona. And we searched for
this mythical creature named Wayward Sun, a favorite son and
(02:24):
a brilliant son. On paint dot TV. We have only
smart people, folks, as silly people don't last. They really don't.
So I think I had a fantastic sit down with
Wayward Son and a guy who's been around, who started
on the east coast New York metro area, northern New Jersey,
(02:49):
the hot bed one of the levels of a hell,
as I said, spent some time there as well, and
then we traveled westbound to find him and tackle him.
For a couple I guess a couple of hours. When
you slice it down, you I look at the time
on this not bad. So that's how you'll spend your
(03:13):
a Thursday here with me and fantastic conversation and a
plethora of different subjects and off to the races. That's
what we do here. We'll be back tomorrow behind the paywall,
Maria Albanize if you're not on pay dot tv. Good
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(03:36):
take care and God bless. I'm guessing myself slugging him in. Hello, Hi,
(04:10):
this is Gym from Ice.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
We're conducting door to door surveys and giving away freebies
if you let us, if you let us check out
your house.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's so funny you mentioned that. Man. First of how
are you doing? I'll pick it up. Everything good, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But you're like, in are you in Phoenix? Man? It's
like one hundred and twenty there it is.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yes, we're literally So when we lived here, we lived
a little bit outside of town. But you know, over
the years, everything just sprawled out right, so we had
the advantage of being a little bit away from it.
So my daughter and son bought in an older neighborhood
and it's more like central you know area, not the
city city, but you know, suburban you know stuff. It
(05:02):
is just a heat island here. It's going to be
one hundred and seventeen today.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
We rolled into town about five o'clock yesterday or so.
It was about one thirteen. I went out this morning
to throw some trash out and I was just I
was like, it just felt like somebody was stabbing me,
the sun hitting my back, you know. And that's one
(05:28):
reason we moved. I couldn't deal with this anymore. I
don't know how the hell I did it twenty eight years.
You know, it got worse, though, it did get worse
since the heat island. Nothing cools down anymore. You know.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
It's all like you know, desert and cement.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That is concrete, asphalt and cement and building. So what
happens it's just you know, I mean, you know, you
stand next to a brick wall, you had a brickouse
right the sun facing side. You know, you go out
there ten o'clock at night and it's still warm, right,
So yeah, nothing cools down out here. And like I
had mentioned to you in a note, you know, a
(06:03):
couple of days ago, I said, uh, you know, no
regrets about moving, you know, three years ago. Of course,
you know, everything comes with its complications, but uh yeah,
I mean we we you know, it's nice to be
able to sleep at the window open, yeah, you know,
and and nobody's going to come in. Yeah, exactly exactly.
(06:24):
But but it's so funny you mentioned the ice stuff
because I was just kind of thinking about a couple
of things that you know, popped into my head or
I shared with you uh here and there, you know,
knowing you know, obviously you can't respond to everything, right,
so but that ice stuff that was going on locally
by me up heure Yeah, And I was just and
I was just like, whoa, you know, so I said,
(06:46):
you know, let me just take a quick you know,
make some notes here real quick. I didn't turn this
into an essay, but it's like, so in June, we.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Had uh careful when you see careful when you say
essay in Arizona.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
That's right, yeah, yeah, so so so they So the
thing that shocked me the most is the one you know,
that I sent to you, which is literally just the
closest town over to us where we occasionally pull.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Not a case where we've got to go for things.
You know, there's a little grocery system, yes, yeah, yeah, right,
I mean, and you know he's got a captive audience, right,
uh so, and it's a recreational area in the summer,
so prices are high, right, And he's a small operation,
but he's he does gouge people, right, But he's what
(07:36):
kind of things.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
General Sometimes the general store's got to hike up the price,
you know.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Right, right, So it's not like unexpected. So but my
point is we go into tablet, we can't do like
our whole week's shopping there would go broke and they
don't have everything we need. So but it's still close by,
you know, and it's and it's this tiny look at this,
barely three thousand people in this community, right and so
you know everybody knows everybody, and not that we're down
(08:02):
in that part of the community, but that's the closest
town over because we actually live in county uh and
up by us we have our own little village, you
might say, our own little hamlet you know, in and
around the lake, which is you know, another area. But
there's no economy up there other than you know, there's
no commerce up there where I'm trying to say, except
for a little restaurant and a general and another general
store on the lake. Right. Okay, So anyway, they pulled
(08:24):
this kid over. This this ice agent rolls in. According
to the story in the Herald, this kid, these two
kids are in the parking lot probably you know, there's
a pizza joint there, there's a subway, right. Uh. They're
probably you know, getting something to eat or doing something.
Maybe they were waiting for a ride, who knows. But
some guy in the car rolls up, as the story goes, uh, nothing,
(08:48):
you know, just plain clothes, nothing in the car or anything,
and says, you know, where you guys from And they're like, well,
we're from out of town. He's like, you said, and
the kids down the stands, you know, they answered obviously
because they probably didn't respect anything. And and the guys like,
he's like, so you llegal here, you know, immigrants or whatever.
They're like yeah, you know. Well the next thing you
know that they're throwing them in the car. And other
(09:10):
people were watching this. So the hispanic you know people
that were there, uh, and and they were like, whoa,
what's going on? Right? So I was just it really
caught me off corkcu I'm going, like, so these guys
are rolling around, you know, even up here where we are,
and you know, you think, like I said on the
last time we were on uh you know, we talked,
(09:31):
I said, you can run, but you can't hide. You know,
you really can anymore, right, and to the extent that
you know, you think, like I get away from all
the craziness, and you just you just can't, you know.
But anyway, yes, so they grabbed those guys. No, I
have no idea whatever happened. Lest the way, the article
(09:51):
said they were heading to Denver, and then there was
there's a uh a granted place in somewhere over nearby
and Durango some some miles away, and they grabbed about
seventeen guys out of there. And then there were the
two I just mentioned about. And then there were a
(10:14):
couple of guys heading out to the Ghost of Springs
to do construction work, and they got they got mapped.
So you know, we got about twenty twenty one or
something like that, you know, folks just in one corridor
along one highway, you know, so that's where we're at.
And then It's funny you.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Mentioned that.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well, because like as you've been so you know, you know,
putting it so bluntly and eloquently in the last week.
I can't remember what show it was, or you know,
you mentioned it more than once. And that's just simply
the fact that every which way you go, they're using
something as an excuse, a ruse to just clamp down
(10:56):
on John Q public and our ability to about and
do things freely and not be surveilled. And so just
as that details and so that's the stuff going on
down the street right and all around the ruse or
the guys of Immigration Enforcement. And then I was just
(11:17):
reading another article. I like to read a couple of
things about, you know, what's going on state and federal
government stuff. I used to do some work in that
area in the tech field, so you know, it's always
been an area where you go look because you know
there's things going on there. And I was just reading
about some some Lexus Nexus CEO or somebody put an
(11:39):
article in there, one of those kind of not paid
for but you know, kind of promotional things, because this
is where all these you know, dopes get their information from. Right.
I used to say that when I used to travel.
It's like everybody's reading a trade magazine and then they
get off the flight and they come back to work
the next day and they got a great idea, right,
so you know, and the executive of you know, bunch
(12:02):
and and so I'm reading this article and the gals
talking about, uh, the need for you know, there's huge
amounts of money now right. Uh. Probably I could just
see all the consultancy companies and the Microsofts and everybody
besides palent here. Everybody's just drooling right now. Oh, we
got so much opportunity to do so much business with
the government now. And there's this article in there, and
(12:25):
it can and it does dubtail into what you're saying.
So we have you know, the feet on the street.
You know, let's collect up the illegal immigrants of this
and that, and I did it. You know, you want
to arrest people that need to be arrested if they're
doing bad things. I mean, I'm not stupid. And then
on but on the other front, you've got them, You've
got the business side now just drooling about getting inside
(12:47):
to do more work. And what this article was going
into was, uh, how doge right? Uh that the identity
side of that needs to really be robust. So well,
last time we talked, I talked about disparate data and
stuff be in a old place, and I'm not going
to get technically right, but it does connect to what
you were saying. And so under the guise of having
(13:10):
to connect all these systems together and make access easier
for you and me and all that kinds of stuff,
they want to use start doing things like much more
efforts to identify who you are if you're doing or
conducting yourself in any sort of government business. Right. And
one of the things they're talking about here is you
(13:32):
start to read this stuff and it's totally dystopian, right,
It's like words matter, Like you've always said, words matter.
And so it says here behavioral biometrics, liveliness detection, multi
factor authentication, and deep faith detection. But two the things
(13:54):
that bother me is the behavioral biometrics and the liveliness detection.
You see what I'm saying. I mean, these people are
literally surveiling your body. We all, I mean, people have
been talking about this for a while, right, but this
is what That's why.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I'm I told Maria many times and my wife that's
why I pissed my pants. I won't look for a
bathroom where I'll just pissed my pants because they're like
if they're detecting me, Like, wow, that guy's really running hot,
that's his story. We can't tell me angry or what's
(14:34):
going on. I think he pissed himself. That's my That's
how I fight back, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
these guys, it's funny. They can't even handle basic tasks,
but they're going to figure out body biometrics.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I have all this technology and then they paid Like
look at you say they pay these idiots. Uh, you know,
they recruit morons and they're like step through the detective plate. Oh,
step through again. We think we saw something. It's like,
I'm getting fucking irradiated here pouts three mile Island. I'm
trying to get on a flight. So who's going to
run the programs? You know what I mean? Right? Right,
(15:14):
it's it's it's funny. It's funny, but fuck, don't make
a lot of money. You know, not a lot of
people talked about it. But real quick, since you talked
about ice.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
They.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
They had a bounty system, they had a yanket, they
were putting out ICE would hand out two hundred dollars
bonuses for each immigrant that you deported, god, as long
as they were let me get it, ICE would hand
out two hundred dollars bonuses for each immigrant deported within
(15:48):
seven days of being arrested, and one hundred dollars for
those deported within two weeks. That was an initial memo,
and then they pulled it back. People like you put
bounties on people's heads and they're like, yeah, it's a matter,
and then they're like, you know, maybe not what you know.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Look at like you were saying the other day whatever.
I don't know if it's just today show or.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
The other thing too real quick, real quick, Yeah, I
read in the I think it was the barons the
other day that they're saying, hey, man, if you're here illegally,
I just couldn't fucking believe it. If you're here illegally
and you didn't file your taxes, that's that's the reason
to be deported. It's like, motherfucker, if you're here illegally,
(16:35):
what the fuck do you file taxes for? And being
here illegally is reason enough to be deported?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah? Nothing makes sense, nothing is I don't think anything
is meant to hold on.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I got to get my ten forty easy going here before.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, you're you're here illegally,
probably working cash jobs, right, and and they're worried about
your saying tax.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I'm already to adopt the illegal alien fucking model, you know,
cash and barter and fuck off. You know. Yeah at
this point, you know, so go ahead. I interrupted you.
I apologize sometimes I do.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, no, no, I was just saying that I was
just agreeing with you that you know, these these guys
you know, coming in here, and to your point making
that a lot of these guys that are working to
do this have been I think you said they're felons,
you're thugs, you know, And I mean it's just the
(17:36):
government's hired these kinds of people, you know, throughout history, right,
I mean, they're.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Off from who I see they're recruiting today was on
the top of Drudge. I still look at Drudge. I'll
probably look at him forever, says agency recruiting senior citizens.
Really yeah, and what's his name? Signed up too? They
were pumping it up. Superman. Dean Kane said he joined
he did a big propaganda video and I know Dean.
(18:02):
I sent him a Twitter message, Yes, yes, Dean, what happened?
What have they got on you? But I haven't heard
back from him, But yeah, they must have something on Dean.
But he's a smart guy. But I'm sure he was
paid very well to do a video scene. I joined.
I just joined up with ice guys, you know, like
(18:22):
Captain America type thing. Yeah, yeah, like fucking Superman. He
was Superman, right, Yeah. I just want to know if
he I just want to know if he banged that chick.
What was her name? She was kind of hot.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I can't remember her name yet, but.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Then she went down. Well, anyhow, we'll just stay on topic.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
My dad, my dad, when he was alive, he had
a thing for her. Yeah, brunette, right, brunette right, of course.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Terry Hatcher, Terry Hatcher.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, my dad always
thought he was like, she's a good one. Didn't look
at one.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Yeah, but he was definitely Superman in that chick anyway.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
But yeah, so we had mentioned Uh so, I guess
it was really like end of July thirtieth or something.
I think it was the actual date, but that was
three years ago. We rolled into Colorado, so nice, no regrets,
you know, I mean, don't get me wrong. Every once
(19:27):
in a while something goes to riot, like the son
of a gun. But then I come back down here
and I go, man, made the right decision, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
So dude, yeah, me, you this is it man. We're
going to get the We're gonna get the mystery machine going.
Okay me you Dana right just had a new hip
put in right, I think, yeah, Dana, you got a
new knee. Yeah, like the fucking fantastic four right, everybody's yeah.
(19:55):
You guys like Steve Austin all Ice law enforcement recruits.
H let's go through a drug screening, but they're they're
potentially waving the medical screening. Wow might and they may
waive the physical fitness test. Dude, we're in man, oh right, Yeah,
we go in here and all these guys are hunting
(20:16):
a murderers, pedophiles, gang members, and we'll literally be at
Starbucks and be like, dude, this is our Ice right here,
Ice La, where's my paycheck? Where's my paycheck? And I
want to join a union? This is crazy, bro. Fifty
dollars bonus h really yeah, student loan uh, forgiveness options. Wow,
(20:43):
it's big. But here's the problem, right, they're going to
there's there's nothing on here, nothing on here, whatsoever about
passing a background check.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
And what they've been doing is like a lot of
these criminals that were working for the Justice Department with
proud boys and stuff. You know, they're like higher criminals, thugs. Yeah,
they're the ones. That's why they have the everybody's wearing
the face of coverings because it's like, hey, wasn't that
due to January sixth? Start in trouble. These It's like
(21:18):
these these actors are out there, these in their criminals
and they're working for these guys. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah yeah, well but look yeah no, no, but it
is relative. I mean because as just start to see, right,
I mean I can't. I'm I'm I'm blown away. I
just see I'm stumbling for words, really i am, because
I'll I get to this point and you know where
(21:46):
you're like, I look at the culmination of my life
and the certain little things that have happened, and and
I've always been watching my back ever since I was
a kid, right because I knew nobody had my back
really and so you so when you're you know, so
you're always kind of saying, what's going on here, what's
going on there? You know, you're trying to stay ahead
(22:07):
of the curve, even though when I didn't consciously know
I was doing it right, You're like, I'm just trying
to stay ahead and trying not to fall behind. And
despite every effort that I made, and you know, it
made some gains and said, Okay, I got a little
bit of security in my life. I got you know,
a little bit. Uh, you know, I should be grateful
for and I am. But I swear to God, in
(22:30):
the last three years, it is just disappearing faster than
I can believe it well to hold.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
On to what you know, it's high stress, man, when
you're under that condition, it's really high stress.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And the funny thing is, I I know you pretty well.
You're like you're like a man's man, a dude's dude.
You'll eat it and you won't share it because you
want peace. You want peace and uh and uh prosperity
with your family. So we have to there's a number
of I call them sin eaters. There's a there should
be one sin eater in your family. And it's usually
(23:10):
the you know, the front, the tip of the spear,
and you. I mean, there's shit going on right now
in my life that nobody in this family knows about.
And I'll just fucking you know, I'm like, all right,
I'll handle it. I'll handle this stuff. I'll handle that stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
And it eats away at you. This is what I'm
telling you, man, this is why we fucking die early.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Well. Yeah, as I mentioned too, and I've said this
to everybody on saying.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Or not trying to bring stuff, not trying to bring
the crowd down.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Man, No, no, no, no, but but but yeah, I mean,
I mean, take take it from somebody who knows. I mean,
I did my damnest to try to stay somewhat ahead.
I was saying, stay ahead of things. Most of my life.
I had a like I said, you got a lot
on your plate. There's a lot going on. You gotta
(24:00):
at times, you know, the work accelerates and you've got
a lot of pressure. There's always a looming thread of
you know, losing your job for some reason or another.
That kind of thing I never had. You know, who's
really got job security? Right? I mean, in my life,
if you didn't make things, if you didn't make your numbers,
you could be gone. Right. So it wasn't like, hey,
(24:21):
I just all I need to do is show up
and be a good employee. Now you got to make
money on top of it, right, I mean, anybody owns
a business knows that. So although I didn't own the business,
I lived under the same similar conditions. Right. It's like
if you don't if you don't produce revenue, you're not
useful to us. You're not going to stick around you, right.
So so you when you have that going on all
the time, and so that could be a quarter, right,
(24:43):
Suddenly a quarter of your year is so filled with
you know, you've got to get something completed and done,
a deal done or whatever and closed, because if you don't,
you're worried about what if you'll be around next quarter? Right,
And like you said, you just eat that stuff. If
I brought that home every day, My I'm liking to
be like, oh my god, you know what's going on here.
(25:03):
We got to be able to pay the mortgage or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It never have ever your shit too?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, yeah, like we were just here before maybe an
hour ago, right, And this morning, I was uh making
breakfast uh for her and me and told her I
had to call and all that. And we're at our daughter,
so I don't you know, things are not where they
normally are, right. So I'm in their kitchen and just
trying to get something together with some eggs and bacon
(25:29):
and stuff. And I couldn't find a good knife to
cut something right. So she hears me complaining and I'm going, ah,
fuck another one, right, that kind of thing, right, And
then she hears me throwing shit in the sink. I go, now,
I got to clean four knives, right, And she's like
and then she looked at me a little bit and
she's like, oh my god. She's like, can't you just
be happy? And I said, you don't get it if
(25:49):
I don't let that ship out, right, I was talking
to myself. I wasn't yelling at her, right, It's like,
if I don't let that stuff out, you know, I
got to let something out. And that's like you know
what you were saying. It's like when you bury that stuff,
it does accumulate eventually and you pay the price for it.
And as I mentioned to you, and I'm not ashamed
to bring it up. It may be a topic you
(26:10):
want it or don't want to talk about today or not.
But you know, I mean, you know, six years ago,
I had a freaking heart attack. Yeah right, and you
know I remember, you know what I said to my wife.
I'm like, I was like I had it, and then
I didn't believe I was having it. And I'm laying
(26:31):
there in bed and she's like, you, okay, I just
go back to sleep as earthing's fun. And then I
get up again. I get up again, and then finally
I laid back down and then I passed out. And
then I wake up and I look at my watch.
I can't even remember. Really, you know, some time had
gone by, at least a half an hour, and this
is happening, and I'm going, oh my, and I said,
(26:52):
I said, you better take me as the hunt, which
I called it, and I said, no, just drive and
we drove, and out on the way there I'm praying.
I said, I'm like, God, just give me another day,
you know, give me one more day. Let me get
through this, right, And and I did, right, Thank God,
it wasn't that bad. But you know, once that happens,
you know you're you're a different person, right, I mean,
(27:14):
you're like, holy god, you know, I'm you know, you
realize you're you're not You're not invincible anymore, right, So.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, it takes you back to what's his name? It's
a big one. Elizabeth. Yeah coming, you might be coming,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't don't worry.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
You go back to bed. I'm just gonna have a
heart attack here. You just take it easier.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I really did. Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's I'm not
even joking. Later on that I was trying to convince
myself because my because I said to my doctor, I said,
you know, once a lot, I got some chest pain.
And he's like, but where is it that, you know?
And I so over here because he goes, that's that
sounds like more like indigests. And I do have without
mentioned I do have. Now, I have a little bit
(27:59):
of an old sir. Fortunate doesn't bother me too much,
but it'll kick in everyone. So so he's like, it's
probably just your ulcer, you know. And so he had
put that in my mind. So when it was happening,
I'm going The first thing I did was takes the
man accid, right, which I don't normally take because I
don't normally have like the stomach stuff, right. I try
(28:21):
to eat pretty good, you know, and all that kind
of things. Well, so heads up, right, so you think it, oh,
I'm getting you know, and then you read you're like, yeah,
people have heart attacks, can have heartburn. That does happen,
and women's symptoms are different than men, and there's there's
(28:43):
similarities that they're different. But when my jaw started to
hurt and I had pain, and I started to feel
pain in my left arm like they always talk about,
and in my back, my upper back, I and and
then I started started to gravitate to the other side
of my jaw. I was like, no, this is real,
(29:03):
this is real. Yeah, And and I'm like I'm like
this is not good, you know. So yeah, so it's uh,
you know, you get to liver another day. But so yeah,
so look at I'm having a grand baby in October
or late September, so I'll be around for that. God Willie, right,
(29:24):
so you're kind of your blessings, you know. I mean,
look at the ship Dane has gone through and uh,
you know, and everybody everybody's got a story, right, we
all we all have something that's happened to us, so
not unique at all.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well, it's good that you, you know, you just got
to make adjustments. Yeah, a lot of people out there
since Scam damn it, who have drilled down on their health.
They're like, all right, I gotta get serious about stuff,
you know, Yeah, you get serious, and you do. You
do have to get serious, you know if you want
to stay down.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah. Well, I mean I was gonna say you, I mean,
when you do the video, what can we see see
your face? Right? But you do? You know you look better.
I mean I don't know how you're feeling, but I
know I can tell you you lost some weight.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
So the body is fighting me. The brain is trying
to win, you know. I mean that's the only way
I put it. I know it has nothing to do
with anything, but the old ways want to creep back.
But I'm like nah. And then I've really been behaving
and eating right and doing everything right, moving around a lot.
(30:33):
And then the other day I had like some beef
jerky which was really good, and I was like, oh,
I have a couple more beasts, and boy did that
fuck me up. My stomach was like, dude, you were
doing really well. My gut was like, you're doing so good,
and then you threw beef jerky at us, a lot
of beef jerky, and it turned everything upside down for
like four days, and I was like, Okay, I get
(30:56):
it now, I get it. Don't fucking do that. Don't
do that.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Them diet though, VM is going to be my my coach,
and yeah, I'm going to take with some of he
was some of he uh says about the meat and
stuff like that. I'm going to try that for a while,
but we have to ramp that up. So that's yeah,
gong in the next couple of days. I think I'll
launched that.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, well good. So you know I had mentioned too
that you know, we started off and like with a
like like a ketogenic thing in eighteen It worked really
well for me and my wife too. I've stuck with it.
I stuck with it because it's not really a diet,
you know. But I think when VM's going with this too,
(31:43):
you've got to look at stop corn and the diet.
It's your lifestyle, you know, And and so everybody's got
an something's work better for others. Right, It's not one,
but I can tell you right now. Uh, my brother
in law, he's uh ten years old and May wasn't
making about seventy one. Yeah, he did the keto as
(32:04):
a diabetic. He wasn't on insulin, but he was taking
medications heavy most of his life drinker. He went on keto.
He lost fifty sixty pounds. Right now, he still looked
on the heavy side. It wasn't like he was slim
gym or anything, but that's a lot of weight to
lose as a diabetic. So so he did very well.
Then he moved and now for the last few years
he's been carnivore. So he's pretty much eats beef and
(32:28):
meat obviously, you know that kind of stuff, and butter,
you know, cheeses. I mean, some people like to keep
certain things out. But I look at it this way,
you know. I always tell people it's like, what's the
staple of your diet now, right, And it's that that
I don't need occasional. It's not like I don't need
a taco shell or you know, or I don't have
some ice cream once in a while or you know,
(32:51):
or have it whatever. Right, But when somebody says, like,
what do you basically it's like it's like you know, bacon, butter,
beef and eggs, you know, and I think that that
just people go like, oh, you know, doctors were card
That's why I said cardiologists are crazy, right, because it's
like they'll tell you, oh, that's exactly why you get
(33:13):
an art attack. And it's exactly the reason why you
won't get an art attack. Right. You know, it's all
the other craps, right, you pounded you know, chips and
stuff with seed oils and it. You know, we don't
need to go down that route hole, right, But but
you know, people like I eat fruit. You can't eat
a ton of fruit, you know, I mean you can't
eat either, like, oh, I hit a whole watermelon. No,
(33:33):
you can't. You can't do that every day.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
You know.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
That's not healthy. There's too much sugar and and so yeah.
So I mean, so for me, I'm encouraging you to
go that route because I when I when I did this,
I'm proud to say, and I've kept it this way.
I only needed to lose probably around that time, like
thirty forty pounds or something like that. I lost that.
(33:59):
I've kept it off. I've learned how to eat right,
And even at my age, I managed to stay you know, fairly.
Something I got like you know, thirty thirty one inch waist.
But you get rid of that visceral fat like you know,
that's around your orders. That's the stuff that chokes you out. Yeah,
and that's what it's. So it's not about Hey, you know,
I look felt and I looked super you know, like
(34:19):
you know, like and not that you don't want to
maybe get that way, you know if you can't, right,
But but if you get you can get rid of
that around the middle there and inside that those parts.
That's the important thing. And so that's how I've stayed
healthy since the heart attack.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know. Is uh, it's a concern for you. You
don't want to go through that thing again.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah. And the thing is the damage, right, And the
thing is the damage that I did to myself was
when I was younger. Yeah, you know, and and like
you said, because it's the same thing, right, you're you know,
you're running around, you're working late, you're maybe having to eat,
you know, while you're walking through an airport or something.
You get to a ho tell late at night or whatever, right,
(35:01):
or you come home from work and you just stressed
out and when having you know things, Yeah, so I'm
glad to hear it. So don't don't let let don't
let it turn into a hospital, because I can say
that right now, that's the last place I want to
spend any time. And my experience after getting knee done, uh,
(35:23):
you know, was just fine when when I did it.
But we've talked about a nauseam right, you know, the
end results didn't come out great, so but at least
I'm better. I feel better than I did this time
last year, and so we'll see where. We'll see if
I want to tackle that problem in the future. But
I'm getting around, getting around a lot more, you know,
(35:43):
you say so, well.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, give me the house stuff is for me. It's
I've always been kind of reactive. Something happens, you can
take care of it, but I don't know, I want
to be around. Here's my issue. Like I start to think,
oh fuck, and some other people might think this too,
(36:07):
or being the thought process, or perhaps I'm like, oh fuck, man,
I gotta try to I gotta try to be like
one of those old fucking guys who just won't die
because it's so fucked up. I'm like, this crew is
gonna need my wisdom for as long as I can
give it. Like I'm almost terrified to fucking like if
something should happen to me now, would be a disaster
(36:28):
for this crew because of you know what lies ahead.
But if I can fucking stretch it out thirty years
and still have my faculties, I take that, man. I
would take like eighty five or some shit, or eighty three.
I'd be happy with that, because it's like, all right, listen,
I've fucking done enough. I'm gonna be left alone. I
want to fucking die. I'm gonna go over here on
this rock and don't talk to me for a couple
(36:50):
of hours and then come fucking bag me and get
me out of here this kind of thing. Just give
me a whatever. I like to drink and up and
leave me alone. But I think I have to get
like in top shape because and also I can handle
stress better. And I plan on fucking causing a little
bit of trouble in the coming next coming years on
(37:13):
the show Man. I know they're gonna be gunning from it. Well,
they already are gunning for me. There's a lot of
shit going on. They don't want they don't want true tellers,
and it's I'm like, okay, you know what, I'll just
get in fucking top shape. I'll be like fucking Drago.
I'll be Radio Drago and should have just I'm ready
for it. So you know, I'm just gonna have to
fucking I already figured out and I talked to Marie
(37:36):
about this stuff. I'm gonna have to fucking I'll be
swinging until the last breath. I'll be fighting until the
last breath. That's my DNA. That's that's the way it's
gotta be. So if anybody wants to come for me,
that's cool. I'm fucking whatever. I'm ready, you know that.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Kind of thing. Yeah, And that's I'm happy to hear
that number one, because yeah, I mean, I'm happy that
you're you're being more upfront and getting stuff off your
mind and not just keeping it, you know, mulling it around.
Like yeah, well I know about that, but i can't
talk about it because I'm at the point now I'm
(38:15):
just so not from you, obviously, I'm saying so sick
of everybody bullshitting us to death, you know, and keeping
everybody in this gaze in confused state you got to.
You got to do that, you know, I mean, you know,
you know some of people would say, no, you don't,
and I get it, you know, maybe you know somebody's
(38:36):
got a gun to your head, You're goud have second thoughts.
But now I agree with you got to. You got
to keep going. I remember, Uh, now that has anything
to do with what you're trying to do. But I'm
just saying. The days that I would get slowed down
and I'd be tired, My god, I got to get
to work again today, I gotta get this done or
whatever it was. In the morning, I'd be getting ready
and on the side of the refrigerator we had a
thing and it was just said never never, never give up, right,
(38:59):
And I'd read that, you know, and uh, I said,
walk out of the house and the kids eating breakfast.
I'd be like, you know, I'm like, please say a
prayer for dad today. Make sure he does a good
job on his on his priest's meetings today or his
presentation or whatever. I got a big you know, like
I really you know, and you just get out of
the house and and you know, knock it out.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
But yeah, see, never never give up sign was inside
the refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
That was my problem. As you're as you're attacking the
court at Briars, but I don't give up.
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