Three OG Coaches Talking Shop
Lianne Raymond, Sas Petherick, and Bridgette Boudreau are Three OG Coaches Talking Shop! We have over 50 years of collective coaching experience under our belts and have seen it all in the coaching industry: the good, the bad, and the cringe. Join us for conversations about red flags and bad actors in the coaching industry, and more importantly how good coaches can move forward with confidence and integrity. threeogcoachestalkingshop.substack.com
Episodes
Hello! You haven’t heard from us for a while, as our respective energy has been pulled down different roads.
We wanted to record a farewell episode to conclude this ongoing and much-enjoyed conversation.
And we are returning full-circle! Our first episode was about The Rise of the Coachfluencer - where lifestyle content, product placement, and aspirational horseshit were masquerading as coaching. In this episode, we address the fall...
Sas leads our conversation about Artificial Intelligence and the future of Coaching.
We reflect on what this technological shift might mean for human connection, professional identity, and how we make sense of ourselves and each other through the lens of coaching.
Both sas and Bridget have built custom GPTs, and Bridget is leading the way in terms of how AI can enhance and complement coaching.
Rather than presenting AI as something t...
Lianne hosts us to chat about coaching as an aspect of the feminine principle – Sophiac wisdom – part of what has been devalued and lost in our wider culture.
We explore both where we are – with women over-represented as coaches, but under-represented in leadership and visibility in our industry. And the limits of working with individuals in a time of systemic change.
We also explore the alternatives as the old structures begin to co...
19. How do you know if your coaching is going well?
Sas hosts a conversation about how we know when our coaching is going well (and when it's not landing).
We explore the importance of self-reflection in coaching practices, with a mentor or supervisor. We also chat about the trickiness of assessing our own effectiveness, particularly if self-doubt pops up!
Enjoy.
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18. Opening to The Mystery in your coaching
Bridgette opens by asking us how we work with The Mystery—the ineffable, divine, soul, and spirit—in our work.
We discuss how this shows up for each of us, the difference between coaching mastery and allowing the mystery to work through us. We also cover projection and entanglement with clients, spiritual maturity and Sophiac wisdom. Such a rich chat!
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Lianne hosts this episode's discussion about whether anyone is cut out to be a coach.
This turns out to be a rich conversation in which we share and disagree on many aspects of the qualities we each believe coaches need to do this work effectively.
What do you think? Can you get really great training and then do this work?
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Got a question for the OG’s?
Sas hosts a conversation about the place of politics in our coaching work. Does it have a place? How do we navigate marketing our work in these times? Should we be? How do political, social, and economic contexts show up in our client work?
If you've ever felt a bit 'crunchy' about sharing your work in an increasingly uncertain world or discussing these topics with clients, listen in!
Resources for you:
Calling In by Lo...
A return to our spicy roots! One of our founding ideals is to equip coaches and travellers in the self-help and coaching worlds, to be discerning. There IS snake oil and problematic practices that seek to exploit the vulnerabilities of this work.
Bridgette hosts this discussion prompted by the recent death of James Arthur Ray, who rose to prominence in The Secret and was then convicted of negligent homicide after three people died a...
Lianne kicks off our 2025 season with an in-depth chat about the books that fortify us. We also chat about how we find a lot of self-help feels like fast food ( we have opinions!), and the books that have nourished us in more satisfying ways.
We share fiction, podcasts and other sources of sustenance. We've included the books and podcasts we mention below:
Books
- Self-help by Gabby Bernstein
- Beyond Anxiety by Martha ...
Part two of our conversation moves to our predictions for the coaching industry next year.
Sparked by an Instagram post of Sas’ we talk about the following trends we are seeing:
- Growing preference for experiences over products
- Increased value placed on becoming vs consuming
- Decline of "vibes-based" coaching towards values-based coaching
- Return to local, in-person offerings
- Growth in private, contained spaces for community (...
12. Planning & Predictions for 2025 (Part 1)
It turns out we had quite a lot to say about this topic and so we have created two episodes!
In part one, we share our different relationships with planning and goals. From "tumultuous" to having a "love affair", having a fluid emergent approach, to having a structured framework, we each have different preferences.
During our conversation, we discuss the importance ...
11. Meeting the moment: after the US election
This episode is a break from our planned conversation to focus on the outcome of the US election: what we are experiencing, how we are supporting clients and most importantly, what we can do as coaches.
We talk about what this moment might be asking from us and how our skills, training and presence is ideally placed for this time.
Mentioned in this episode:
- Join or Die on Netfl...
10. Healthy Client Love + Attachment
Lianne leads a rich and nuanced conversation about love and attachment. We go beyond popular ideas of an attachment style to talk about ‘agape’ - a Greek word for the love of fellow humans – to go beyond loving personality or behaviour and to love a person’s soul.
When we think about the purpose of attachment – to grow us up into our human potential – how do we sit in this idea as coaches? What...
Sas introduces the concept of parallel process – when our work with clients activates our growth.
Often, this isn’t pretty or easy—it’s the moments when we notice patterns we are engaging in as part of our work. Sometimes, clients' particular challenges or approaches can feel really uncomfortable - it might be something we share with our clients.
Coaching is relational, so parallel process is of course, inevitable. We will get ...
Bridgette introduces a rich conversation about both the helpfulness and the more problematic aspects of mindset-dominant coaching approaches.
We talk about what the effectiveness of this kind of coaching might really be down to and what to do if you want to broaden the scope of your practice.
If you’ve ever wondered if thought work, mindset, affirmations or cognitive behavioural approaches are all they are purported to be, this episo...
In this episode, Lianne leads a conversation about the future of coaching.
Does coaching have a future? And if so what might it look like? We discuss alternatives to the creepier aspects of the industry and the hopeful ideas for the maturation and evolution of the industry.
Its a juicy one!
Got a question for the OG’s?
If you have a question about your coaching practice, we’d love to help. You are warmly invited to submit a ...
In this episode, Sas shares the concept of Tūrangawaewae - tūranga (standing place) and waewae (feet) is our place to stand.
Tūrangawaewae are the external and internal places where we feel especially empowered and connected. They are our foundation, our place in the world, where we feel at home. As coaches, this includes our unique experiences and histories, our training and coaching philosophy, all filtered through our specific p...
In this episode, Bridgette starts off our conversation about visibility and the discomfort this can bring.
We chat about why this is so uncomfortable for so many of us, how to decide the ways you want to market your coaching work that feel good to you, how to navigate self-doubt, how to support your business and yourself to get your work out there!
Got a question for the OG’s?
If you have a question about your coaching practice, we’...
Lianne sparks a conversation about how to create a coaching practice that feels like an eco-system rather than an ego-system.
This evocative metaphor takes the conversation on a journey to discover what is ‘downstream’ of each of us. We talk about who inspires us, who mentors us, and what we are learning.
It was joyous to discover we all have teachers and mentors (sometimes quite far!) outside of the coaching world.
References:
Liann...
Personal coaching, group work, retreats, teaching, business consulting, big programmes, intimate circles, getting a day job: between us, we’ve made our money in all the ways!
In this episode we talk about how we each make money, how we offer our coaching work, how this has evolved and changed over the years, and how our coaching work gets to be a unique expression of each of us.
We hope this helps you consider how your coaching work...
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