June 5, 2025 • 47 mins
What if the version of you you've been holding back is actually the key to everything you want?
In this episode, I sit down with the incredible Lizzie Siegel, and wow....Just get ready!
Lizzie’s been through it all... trauma, chronic illness, financial rock bottom... and somehow turned it into deep healing, global impact, and a kind of spiritual groundedness that’s truly inspiring.
We talk about what it means to “choose your hard” and how the life you’re living right now might be harder than the one your soul actually wants you to step into.
Lizzie shares her journey of remembering who she really is and how that changed absolutely everything.
We get into:
- Why illness and stuckness often come from ignoring what we know deep down
- What happens when you finally say yes to yourself
- How she helps people rewire beliefs with something called PSYCH-K (and yeah, it works)
- And the wild thing that finally helped her leave a 17-year career and step into the unknown
This is one of those conversations that’s going to stay with you. Lizzie has such a grounded, no-fluff way of explaining really deep stuff in a way that is easy to digest and relate to.
If you’ve been feeling stuck or like you’re meant for more but can’t quite figure out how to get there, you're going to love this conversation!
And trust me, you’ll want to go follow Lizzie and stay in her world.
You can find her on Instagram @iamlizzie.siegel
Or check out her work at www.lizziesiegel.com
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And if you loved it, I’d be so grateful if you left a review - it helps more amazing women like you find this show!
Your journey doesn’t stop here - let’s keep the conversation going! Connect with me at denisedrinkwalter.com, and follow @thethriveafter45podcast for daily insp, tips, and support.
Remember, midlife isn’t the end - it’s just the beginning of a new, exciting chapter! Keep thriving, keep shining, and I’ll see you next time!
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Hello and welcome to the ThriveAfter 45 podcast where we
redefine the significance of youfor you by you.
Because of you.
I am Denise Drinkwater, amidlife renewal coach here to
help women embrace their power.
Purpose and potential.
This show is your space toexplore what's possible when you
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prioritize you.
Through inspiring conversations,expert insights, and real
stories, we'll uncover how tonavigate transitions, rediscover
joy and thrive inside and out.
It's time to let go of guilt.
Fully embrace the life that'swaiting for you.
This is the Thrive After 45podcast, and it is your time to
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thrive for you, by you becauseof you.
What an honor and a privilege towelcome and introduce Elizabeth
Segal to the Thrive after 45podcasts today.
Lizzie's Path to Mastery wasn'tshaped by textbooks or titles.
It was carved through personaltransformation, spiritual
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awakening, and a deep soulremembrance of who she truly is.
She has lived the extremes ofthe human experience from the
depths of financial hardship,homelessness.
Trauma chronic health challengesto the heights of healing,
global travel and energeticmastery.
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With over 20 years as a guideteacher and energetic anchor,
and five years offering soulaligned mentorship and holistic
coaching, Lizzie has become a.
Beacon for thousands.
Her work bridges the physicaland the mystical, the practical,
and the profound.
She is a meta guide, amultidimensional mentor, grid
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guardian, portal, priestess,frequency holder, and sole
strategist.
Her mission.
To support others in masteringthe energetics of manifestation,
healing, embodiment, andconscious leadership.
Lizzie doesn't just teach, sheembodies.
She is the only certified psychK facilitator in Kuwait and
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served as Lululemon's YogaAmbassador in the Middle East.
She's led global retreatsstudies.
Was studied with shamans andmystics and worked with earth
chakras and sacred sites, allwhile transmitting frequencies
that shift lives.
Her clients come to her todissolve limitations at that
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root level, whether it'shealing, automo, autoimmune
issues, unlocking abundance,navigating spiritual awakenings,
or launching.
Soul aligned businesses.
When you work with Lizzie,everything becomes possible.
Lizzie, I can't wait to havethis conversation.
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We are so grateful to have youwith us here today.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you so much for the.
Beautiful introduction.
Thank you for having me on theshow.
It's such an honor to be herewith you and I am, uh, just
beyond delighted I can.
I can't wait to dig in herebecause the depth of which you
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live your life I know has notalways been the way it's been.
How on earth did you know?
When you were going to do suchprofound work in this world.
That's such a fun question andI, I love to say like I was one
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of those lucky beings who.
Remembered from a very youngage, and I, I was tuned in and
tapped in and turned on when Iwas young and I was given some
messages very early on, likefive, six years and younger that
this would be part of myjourney.
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And then as is common, I forgot,hmm.
And I forgot for many, many,many years.
But then when I remembered, itwas like, oh yeah, I remember
that.
And so it was this aha momentof, yep, that makes perfect
sense.
And here we are.
And now it's my treat tocontinue to remember, because
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that's what we're all doing.
We're remembering it's yes, welearn.
Yes, we grow.
And really we're uncovering andon layering and returning.
Resourcing returning to sourcewithin and remembering the
wholeness of who we are.
Your eyes light up when youanswered.
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I was like, yep.
She's talking about who she isas a person, which is exactly
what we are talking about inthis show.
Doing what you need to do foryou by you because of you.
Is there anything in particularis there in your mind's eye
where you can go?
I remember this time when I wasfive, when I was six, and this
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was something that you couldshare with the audience because
I think what happens is whenpeople hear other people's
stories.
Things drop for them and all ofa sudden they see things
differently.
So is there something you canshare along those lines?
Absolutely.
Um, one of the key moments and,and this really just cuts to the
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weird that I am one of, and it'slike, it's just totally out
there.
And I, I know that, uh, somepeople who hear this, they'll be
like, I'm not the only one.
Um, when I was young.
I was very connected to whatpeople would refer to as aliens
or the galactic realm and angelsas well.
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And there was an instance whereI was visited by
extraterrestrial beings and Iremember it all happening.
I remember this taking place,and then I went and told my
mother, and I know I scared her.
And it was all, it wasn't justlike, oh, that's weird.
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It was like, what is happening?
And I learned from thatexperience, oh, we don't talk
about this.
Like this isn't okay.
And so I learned how to likekeep that part quiet.
However, there were otherinstances where I would talk
about things like angels thatwas far more acceptable.
Mm-hmm.
And so if I would share a storyabout an angel or whatever,
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because I was raised in aChristian family.
So angels are commonplace,right.
And I could share about thatkind of thing.
So I learned like that's a farmore acceptable path to talk
about and to go down that road.
And it was these interactionswhere there was one particular
interaction where I was goingthrough a very deep grief.
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Um, my OPA had.
Passed away around this time andor maybe a little later blur.
Timelines are a little bitblurred.
Sure.
But I remember that I was justfeeling so lost and so alone,
and I was about eight years oldand I called in like I prayed to
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God.
That was what I knew how to do.
I prayed right, and I called,asked for support, and it was
like this presence filled theroom with me and.
Stayed with me and that presencehas been with me my entire life.
And again, I forgot about it fora long period of time.
Sure.
But yeah, I was tuned back intothese dimensions and I awakened
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and I remembered the truth ofwho I am.
Somebody was like, oh, when youhave an angel, that's by you all
the time.
And I was like, yes.
Yes I do.
You're right.
And I know when they camebecause I remember.
Right.
Sure.
So how did you go from.
What you were doing prior togoing into the depths of what
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you do now, how did you knowthat this was the route for you
because of the work that you dois so, um, giving back to
showing others what's possiblefor them.
Um, how, how did that unravelfor you?
How did that roll out?
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When I was about 18, I actually,before I went to like
university, I wanted to be amassage therapist.
Okay.
I wanted to be, I wanted to be ahealer because I knew that that
was part of my path.
Yet I let myself get talked outof it and do the traditional
route that I should do.
And I was like the golden child,which sounds really nice in
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theory, but is actually a lot ofpressure, right?
And, uh, a lot of, um, selfabandonment and people pleasing
so that I would.
Mm.
Go on a different journey for awhile.
Right?
And I went to school, gotdegrees, and then I was like,
well, what am I gonna do?
Because none of this is sittingwith me, right?
So I ended up a teacher and atthe time I was like, I'm just
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gonna be a teacher.
And I say, just with such alaughable likeness because you
are never just a teacher.
You are so much more than that.
And that journey took me on, um.
Really the journey that led meback to here because being a
teacher, you tell kids they canbe anything that they desire,
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anything that they believe in,and you help them cultivate
skills and tools and practicesto get there.
And then there was this momentwhere I was like so deeply
dissatisfied with my life andeverything.
It was like everything was goingwrong, wrong.
When it rains, it pours.
And I.
I was injured, I was unhappy.
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Just all the things.
And I was like, well, if it'strue for them, why is it not
true for me?
And so I had a little minibreakdown, breakdown the break,
and I went on a solo journey,um, during Covid Times actually
to Thailand and.
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My remembrance remembered me.
And it, you know, like in HarryPotter, the one chooses the
wizard.
My, my life path was like, hereyou're, we're ready for you.
Thank you for coming.
And um, I learned energy healingand that was honestly the path
back.
It started with yoga.
It started with like physicalpractice, breath work,
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meditation.
But it was, that clicked into adifferent frequency with energy
healing.
That was my.
Journey to this, this side ofthe right, the veil.
Right, so, so what you're, whatyou're saying is very, it's
resonates so much for me becausewe talk a lot about giving back
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to ourselves, but a lot ofpeople are, are thinking the
external, right.
I'll go and do an activity andI'll find out who I am, and
that's what I'm hearing.
How you started doing the yoga,the meditation, the, those
pieces.
But there was a why a deeper.
Voice, a deeper remembrance ofdeeper there.
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She's, and you were able tolisten and hear that and action
on it because you were goingback to who you were, right?
Yeah.
That piece that you mentioned,that action, it's so crucial
because if you know, action isthe language of the physical
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body in the physical materialplane, and.
As a teacher, I have spent yearsaccumulating knowledge and, and
book learning, and I'm excellentat that too.
But sure, if you apply what itis you're learning, the lessons
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don't get integrated and thenthey are lost.
And when we take action, we aresignaling to the holographic
reality that is life the mirror.
Hey.
I am worthy.
I know that this is how itworks.
I get to choose the direction Imove in.
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That is action.
That is movement.
And from there I create the lifethat I desire.
And you know, in our socialmedia age, there's so much
knowledge consumption.
There's so much Suck it in, butwhat are you doing with it?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The work that you do to help,like.
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Help with autoimmune disease.
That's massive.
Like healing major, major lifealtering.
I'm, I'm, I, I'm speechless.
I, I'm, because I know peoplewho have auto autoimmune and
every day is a challenge how?
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In the world.
Does that even happen where thework that you do affects healing
at that level?
So physical ailments dis-ease.
Yeah.
Is disease is the dis-ease inyour body.
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And in yoga and Ayurveda, weknow that and.
Western Science doesn't focus onthis as much as Eastern science,
but we know that dis disease ordisease is a physical
manifestation in the body, andit's the last stage of the
disease.
It's not the first.
It's a symptom of the last stagewhen you have ignored all the
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other subtler symptoms along theway and all the other layers of
the self.
We don't just have a physicalbody.
We have a physical body, anemotional body, a mental body,
an intellectual body, and aspiritual body.
And when we can honor all thelayers of the self and be.
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So okay with being radicallyhonest with the self that we get
to the root of the issue, we candissolve literally anything.
The thing is, is that if we'vebeen so conditioned and trained
to believe that this physicalbody and, and the symptoms or
the experiences that happen toit in it of it are.
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Out of our control.
Mm-hmm.
Then that's what we believe, andwe don't have agency over our
own physical manifestation.
When I read through Yoga andAyurveda, that disease was a
manifestation.
I was like, well then if Imanifested it in, surely I can
manifest it out.
Mm.
And I knew in that moment, okay,I'm gonna heal.
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And I had wicked awfulautoimmune diseases.
I had fibromyalgia, I hadsomething that they thought was.
But it turned out to be anundifferentiated connective
tissue disease.
It was something they were like,we don't even really know what
to call it.
And it's not, they were justkind of boggled because it came
out of nowhere.
But really it came out of livinga life that was deeply
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misaligned and ignoring it forso long when I chose to sit with
the discomfort and sometimesstillness is needed.
Mm-hmm.
And to go.
What's happening here and whatare the pieces of my life that
are making me so miserable andbeing okay with whatever answer
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came up, and I was not okay withit at first at all.
You know, you would rather beright.
Then we would rather be healedand whole because that ego, the
negative ego, it's doing itsjob.
It's to protect us, it's to keepus alive.
But once we can understand that,if the ego gets exposed, if it
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gets illuminated, as I say,mm-hmm.
It doesn't die.
It just becomes another optionin all the possible options.
So when we can sit with thepossibility of, you could be
wrong about this, right, and youcould actually heal from it,
then we can open up to a wholenew realm of possibility and
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healing.
And there's many layers to thisbecause even so, people.
Often will hold on to diseasesand ailments, um, and even like
injuries much longer than theyactually need to because there's
a benefit in them keeping it.
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Mm-hmm.
And that there's another layerof honesty too, because.
You can ask like, well, what doyou gain by having this disease?
Well, people take care of me.
I don't have to work, I don'thave to, uh, do everything for
myself.
I, I get special treatment and Iget to protect myself.
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And it seems like a reallybackwards, roundabout way of
doing all of this.
But the subconscious mind is,it's deeply symbolic.
Hmm.
And.
The conscious mind is reallydoing its job to protect us, and
the soul already knows that thisis part of the journey.
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So it's okay with going on it,and it's not pitying you, right?
It's not right.
You are having an experiencethat you chose to have so that
you could either repeat orevolve.
Love it.
You're, you're talking and I'm,something that just flew into my
mind was a book I'm currentlyreading by Carolyn Elliott, PhD
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and it's called ExistentialKink.
And she's talks about, have you,have you heard of the book?
I've heard of it, but I've notread it.
I, I recommend you read itbecause it's exactly what you
were talking about.
There's a benefit in whatever itis, the ailment, the, the
concern, the issue.
You stay there because you aregetting something out of it.
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Even though you feel, I hatethis, I don't want, right?
There's something in that.
So how do you switch that, uh,flip that switch so that it
changes and you see it for whatit really is and not be afraid
of it.
Right.
Yeah.
We are so taught to fear theunknown.
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Yeah.
And it's so, you know, it'sinteresting because mm-hmm.
All we're ever gonna find in theunknown is more of ourselves.
But when we have these storiesthat we tell or, and that we
continue to perpetuate.
It becomes scary and fear anddoubt.
They're actually not signals tostop.
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They're signals to keep goingbecause I love this analogy that
I use because I think I, Iworked with little, I've worked
with little children for so muchof my life.
Sure.
And they show us everything weneed to learn.
When a little kid realizes thatit's not gonna get what it
wants.
Think about if you're at agrocery store and you watch a
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child want the candy bar, andthey'll go around the grocery
store whining after their motherbegging, pleading, please give
me this.
Please let me have it.
When they get to the checkoutand they realize they're maybe
not gonna get that chocolatebar, you watch them throw a
temper tantrum.
And fear and doubt are just likethat, that they get the loudest
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right before they're about to beexposed, right before they're
about to be revealed and they'regonna get a no because the job
of the defense mechanism of anegative belief is to perpetuate
itself and to do whatever it canto stay alive.
But again, like I said, ifyou're willing to say, okay,
when I expose you, all you'regoing to realize is you still
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get to exist and you become apossible option.
I can always go back and choosethat option.
It's there, it's available, butI could also choose an option in
the direction that I actuallysay I prefer.
Yet so many people I.
Especially people with, um,health issues, injuries,
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ailments.
And I speak to this with so muchcompassion.
'cause this was, of course, ofcourse they're in the victim
mindset.
Mm-hmm.
And they, they feel sodisempowered that they do not
have a choice.
And I know that that might betriggering also, but that's what
I'm here to do.
Activate people to help them.
Remember, you have a choice nomatter what.
And even not making a choice isa choice in and of itself.
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Right.
We make choices every day,whether we believe it or not.
The reality is, every single daywe do make multiple choices, and
some of them are just because ofthis is how we do life.
But I like what you said earlierabout.
The five components.
There's not just the physicalpiece.
There's all the other piecesthat we are not using to bring
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ourselves to the fullness of whowe truly are.
And that's the work that youlove to do and are so gifted at
it.
Um.
I know that you shared thismorning, and thank you for
sharing all that stuff thismorning.
I'm like, look at her.
She's going crazy about ourconversation coming up, but I'm
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excited.
I'm so excited.
Right.
So we had an opportunity toconnect long before this, um,
where you took me on, I'm gonnacall it on a journey.
And it was a journey that I'venever had before.
And I've done different thingsin my lifetime.
I've done, you know, um,drumming and different
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experiences like that.
Um, and it was absolutely lifechanging.
And I, the, the part that Ithink is so amazing and to this
day, I still am like.
God, how does this even work?
But I didn't do anything.
I just was in space with youvirtually like this, and you
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went through a variety ofthings.
I can't even say what they allare, but you did.
You did your magic on your end,and I just got to sit and think.
Like asked, you asked me certainquestions and I would just take
it and you would clear things,and I've had this experience
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with another person who didsomething similar, but a
different modality and the samething.
It's just like.
I feel different, but I don'tknow how that's even possible.
'cause I haven't moved.
I'm in the same chair.
I'm not, I, you know, I haven'tstretched anything.
Can you speak a little bit topsych K?
'cause that's the exercise that,the exercise, I don't even know
what you wanna call it.
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The experience that we didtogether so that people in the
audience can hear the power ofthat opportunity that exists.
Thank you for asking.
Yes, of course I can.
And also, I just wanna take amoment to say thank you to you
and honor you in yourexperience, because the way I
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see things.
We are all one.
And whenever you say yes to you,not only do you say yes to you,
you say yes to the collective.
You say yes to everything andeverybody, and that
transformation that takes placein you isn't just for you.
It's for every single person.
And that seen and unseen every,every living, breathing.
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Not even living and breathingall of consciousness and it
expands collectively.
And that is so important.
And so thank you for being youand for being part of that
experience.
My pleasure.
So Ske is one of my favoritetools that I use in my
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practices.
Um, psyche is a spiritual.
Process with psychological,physical, mental, emotional
benefits, right?
And what we do in psych K, you,you call them exercises, we, we
call them balance.
So in psych K, it is a processwhereby we honor the whole
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human, the whole self.
And we work with the superconscious mind, which not in
psyche, but in other placespeople might call it your
highest self or your, your.
Your soul self, or many, manyother.
We work with the subconsciousmind and we work with the
conscious, um, what comes out inthe conscious.
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Right, right.
So this process is beautifulbecause I like to use the
analogy of a computer and.
This is why I like to use itbecause they don't really
understand computers.
Yeah.
Need to.
Because what I do understand isthat there is only so much in
the universe that you will everunderstand, and it's like a
little dot, that's how muchyou're gonna ever understand.
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There is infinite amounts ofeverything and we can't possibly
understand it all.
We get to experience and knowthis like little dot of it.
Mm-hmm.
So that's like the superconscious realm, let's say.
Right.
And.
The subconscious mind.
You can think of it like thecomputer operating system.
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It's running scripts.
It's doing so much backgroundwork.
It processes information atabout 50 to a hundred thousand
bits of information per second.
It's super fast, high levelcomputing.
Do I know how that works?
However, I do know how to opentabs on my computer.
I do know how to log intodifferent functions and things
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like that.
That's like the conscious mind,right?
And so when we can understandthat, we can communicate with
the subconscious mind, and thisis the part about like Psyche
that I do know.
Like I know how to do that.
I've been trained in that.
I know how to, how to accessthat part.
It would be like I'm a computerprogrammer and I know how to
work that part, right?
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I help people.
Through these balances, tuneinto the subconscious beliefs
and we see what are beliefs thatare limiting or beliefs that are
enhancing.
We can also work with trauma,stress, and any other like
heavy, dense kind of, uh,experience to transmute that and
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reach a state of peace andnon-attachment.
And so Psyche works because weperceive.
The experience and the beliefs,and instead of just trying to
put stuff on top and pretendlike that's not there, we
actually, with intention go intomm-hmm.
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The subconscious limitingbeliefs, the subconscious
trauma, the body trauma even,and we're able to.
Let all of that come up to thesurface to be witnessed, to be
integrated and then clear it andprogram in what you would
rather, what you would likeinstead.
And so it's this process ofunderstanding.
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We don't just put some morestuff on top.
It's like having a full cup ofrocks.
You can't just Right rocks ontop, they don't fit.
You have to dump it out andthen.
Fill it up.
So the same thing is true withche.
We, we bring it all up.
We clear what needs to becleared, and then we program in
new beliefs.
Again, like an operating systemof a computer, you have to,
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again, here's the part that Idon't know, I kind of wipe it,
but I don't do that part.
The update does that part on itsown.
Same as in, I don't actuallyhave to go in there and clean
things up for you.
That's what your super consciousdoes.
That's what that part of askingfor permission allows us to do
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because we don't need to do thatpart that's taken care of by
source.
God, the universe, your superconscious, whatever you believe
in, right?
It's there.
Love it.
Love it.
And when we did our worktogether, you had mentioned to
me, and correct me if I'm wrong,but that you do psych work on
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yourself, you balance yourselfall the time.
So knowing that, is thereanything you could share that
you could say is the mostmagical thing that's ever
happened when you fully.
Chose you?
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Oh gosh, yeah.
Great question.
I have thousands of miraculousstories.
Like miracles are regular forme, but the biggest one I will
say is something that I hadwanted to do for so long.
Uh, I have been a teacher forlike.
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17 plus years and I had wantedto leave the teaching career and
the job for.
About six years and I couldn'tdo it.
No matter what I did, what Itried, everything, I would just
keep looping and getting stuckin the, but it's safe, I'm
comfortable, I have a goodpension, a blah, like all these
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things that logically makesense.
And in the 3D world, they makesense and, and you know, family
reinforcing this belief andeverything.
Yet my soul was screaming at me.
Hmm.
It was just saying, you, you'vegotta make a switch.
So when I did, uh, a verytransformative, um, alternative
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life balance in psychic, it's anadvanced balance that what we
do, I made it.
Two of my action steps that Imust Ooh, balloons.
I love that too.
Yeah.
If you're listening to thepodcast, um, Lizzie just put her
fingers up and all theseballoons came to celebrate what
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she's gonna be talking about.
So funny.
Uh, um, I did, I did this actionstep for two of my, um.
Two of the things I mustcomplete, and it was to sign no
on my contract.
And I had wanted to for years.
And so that time came where itwas like, okay, your contract's
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here, you need to sign.
No.
And of course I could have not.
That was an option, but I reallywanted my life to change and I
knew that I had to take thatreally bold, scary action for
me.
Mm-hmm.
And.
Once I did, like, I, I rememberI was sitting on my couch.
I signed no, and then I went,huh.
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How funny of me that I made itto sign no on my contract, and I
did it.
And I went, I breathed the sighof relief.
I felt very accomplished, butthen I was like.
That wasn't so scary.
That wasn't such a big deal.
And then I laughed and I waslike, well, I guess the next
part is I should hand it in.
Right?
That was, that was the nextlogical step.
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So of course I handed in the no,and then my life changed wildly
every like more.
Things just started falling intoplace.
Aligned.
Clients started flowing in.
People reached out to me andlike featured me in magazines.
I, I started writing for othermagazines.
I had so many opportunities anda lot of, a lot of other stuff
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happened where like, stuffstarted leaving my life and I
was like, oh, this alignment,this is part of, this doesn't
align with your new frequencyand so it must be cleared out in
order for your new reality totake shape.
And so.
I would be lying to say it's allrainbows and butterflies all the
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time, because that's not true.
The whole part about holding allthis light and love is that you
go through the shadows, thedepths, and the darkness in
order to be able to hold all thelight.
We live in a dualistic world.
And being able to hold all thelight means also being able to
see all the dark.
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When you turn on the lightswitch in a room, now you see
all the dirty stuff too, right?
So it's part of knowing thatthis experience, while it gets
to be joyful, and it can beeasy, we don't have to do, make
it be hard work.
I say it's the hard work, andthis can be a little jarring at
times, but with the rightsupport and with the right.
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Uh, belief systems in place,which is why I use Psyche so
much, is to work on the beliefsbecause whatever you believe is
what manifests in your physicalreality.
We do not manifest from theconscious mind alone.
We manifest from thesubconscious and the soul level
as well.
And so when we align ourbeliefs, which are in our
subconscious, then we can allowour soul to shine through, and
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this is why it becomes easy andeffortless and beautiful.
Mm-hmm.
And I love what you're saying interms of the duality, because
the important piece thatresonates for me in this
conversation that I wanna shareis that if you stay doing, if
you're resonating with whatLizzie's saying and you're like,
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but it's, you know, I look atthe outside and, and everybody's
right.
I've got the pension, I've gotthis, I've got all these, but
I'm.
I'm not happy.
How long do I stay not happyfor?
And how long does it take beforethat dis.
Ease starts to enter in andthings I thought were, I can, I
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can do it.
I'll just suck it up buttercup.
It's a job.
You're blah, blah, blah.
Instead of going to the duality,I.
Actually putting your toe in thewater, knowing people like
Lizzie exists to help youthrough that journey and help
you with your belief system andhelp you move more towards your
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aligned soul truth.
And in so doing, yes.
Thank you for sharing, Lizzie,that there are hard times.
It doesn't mean it's unicornsand butterflies, but the results
are you're living a life.
Of your choosing and you'remaking the choices that you
truly desire, and we never knowwhat's gonna roll out as a
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result.
We have ideas, but those ideasare human and it doesn't take
into the other pieces that, uh,new opportunities can present
themselves.
Like you said, all this stuffstarted falling into my lap.
It's like what?
It couldn't before.
There wasn't space for it.
Right.
You said something that I justwanna mention that really is
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important on this journey ofsaying yes to yourself.
A couple things.
One is that you get to chooseyour heart.
I.
Speak from my personalexperience.
I once was more than a hundredpounds overweight.
And that was hard.
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That was a hard life in so manydifferent regards.
And I remember how hard it wasto live, how hard it felt to be
in my own.
Mm-hmm.
How discomfort, like I felt inso much discomfort all the time
and I lost all that weight.
And people said, well, wasn'tthat hard?
And I said, yes, I guess it washard, but.
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I was choosing my heart.
It was harder to stay stuck in abody, in light, in a mindset, in
this, this misery than it was todecide to make a choice and a
change step by step in the thatI wanted to be in.
And people always try to eat thewhole elephant at the one time
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elephant, one bite at a time ifyou're going up the mountain.
And that looks daunting.
It does.
Just look at your feet, take onestep at a time, and then it
doesn't seem so challenging.
And again, support,encouragement, those, the right
people surrounding you along theway is really key.
And then you also said about,um, my mind went away for a
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moment.
Eh, if it wants to come back, itwill.
You're we're very similar.
I have a couple of ideas.
Don't forget them.
Oh, what?
Same game.
But it doesn't wanna, it doesn'twanna hang out with me right
now.
That's okay.
Um, is there anything that youwould love to share with our
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audience that will give themsomething to go back and.
Uncover, discover, think about,contemplate for you by you
because of you by giving back toyourself in ways that you've
never actually consideredbefore.
Is there any golden nugget thatyou would love to close our
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conversation with this, uh, uh,this morning?
Yeah, and it, and it kind ofgoes with what I was, I think,
what I was thinking before thatI wanted to share.
So, perfect.
We often believe that we have toearn our worth.
Mm.
And this is one of the biggestblocks to the life that we
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desire.
And again, I like that idea ofchoosing your heart.
You do not have to earn yourworth.
You are inherently worthybecause you exist.
If you weren't worthy, yousimply would not exist.
But because you exist andbecause of all this conditioning
that tells us we have to proveour worth or prove this, prove
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that we get lost in this idea ofwhat it means to live a joyful
life or a fulfilled life or aloving life, and.
True unconditional love, whichis what source God, the
universe, whatever you wannacall it.
Consciousness pure awareness is,is unconditional love.
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And people get that definitionreally confused sometimes, but
it really means withoutcondition.
So if you want to live a life ofstruggle, if you wanna live a
hard life, you can choose that,and the universe will literally
unconditionally support that andgo, okay, here you go.
If you want to live a life ofease, joy, fulfillment, the
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whatever it is that you desire,the universe will go, okay, here
you go.
Notice how my inflection didn'tchange because it's not like,
okay, you want to live a joyful,easy life.
Here you go.
And okay, you wanna live a hard,difficult, go ahead.
No, it's neutral.
It is unconditional love andgrace, and when you can start
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applying that to yourselfmm-hmm.
Like you would a small babyinfant or a really old person.
We have a lot of unconditionalgrace and compassion and love
for them.
Apply that to yourself and knowthat your worth can never be
taken away.
The we build empires of burnoutand self-sacrifice and
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separation, but when you beginto like dissolve all of that and
truly remember that it's yourbeing, that's the value.
You recalibrate your wholeentire reality.
You get to receive just as muchas you give.
You get to create effortlesslyand instead of proving, you are
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simply here in presence.
And that's so, so beautifulbecause you recognize then that
abundance is your birthright.
And it's not just abundancefinancially.
It is abundance in all the ways.
And you anchor into that and youknow that it's a frequency.
It's not something to get, Hmm.
It's not something to prove.
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It's something to align with asa frequency, as an energy.
And one thing I just wanna likeleave people with, because it's
so clear in this example, whenyou are ill, when you don't have
good health, like maybe you havereally, really bad health, or
maybe you just have a cold andyou wish to get better, you know
(40:59):
that by wishing and wanting anddoing whatever you can to get
better, you don't take away thehealth of somebody else.
Mm-hmm.
Health is abundant, wellbeing isabundant, and it's available to
everybody.
You would never go, oh, if I getbetter, then that means that
person gets sicker.
No, it doesn't work that way.
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The same is true with every formof abundance, money,
relationships, um, mentalhealth.
Physical health, emotionalhealth, social status.
There is an abundance ofeverything, and it's a matter of
reprogramming yourself torealize you're not taking
anything away from anybody else.
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That scarcity is actually a lie.
Abundance is the only truth, andeven when you have lack, you
don't lack abundance.
You have an abundance of lack,and so you can simply.
Choose Again, it's a choice.
It's a conscious choice toswitch and go, okay, well then
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if I believe that I lackedabundance, I'm going to believe
that I have abundance, that I amabundant, that frequency and
everything begins to becomesimpler because it really is
simple.
We just have to get out of ourown way.
Yeah.
You're not fighting.
You're not fighting yourself.
Right.
Yeah.
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Seeing what is possible, knowingthat your belief system is the
driver of your bus.
So if you want to get on adifferent bus, all you do is get
out and move over.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
And it's there for the taking.
It's, it's daily choices, it'sdaily thoughts, it's daily
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acceptance.
And I love what you're talkingabout because everybody is born
worthy.
I.
There's, we don't have to gofind it.
I know a lot of people talkabout, well, when I retire I
will have this, this, I can'thave it now.
The part that makes my heartache forever is we don't know
when our last breath is, and howmany times have we heard in our
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world people didn't make it toretirement when they were gonna
start living?
Every day is a choice to live,so yeah.
That that is so important.
If you would ask yourself thisquestion, and it's one that
really woke me up.
I asked myself the question if Ihad,'cause there was a point in
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my life where I didn't want tolive anymore, and it was like.
Well, let's just say this isyour last chance at life because
it was that dire.
It felt that awful.
Would you rather take a chanceand just go full out and do the
things that you say you'vealways wanted to do or just give
(43:53):
up and dine out?
And so if you had a year left tolive, would you still be doing
what it is you're doing or wouldyou really.
Live your life to the fullestbecause you never know when it
is your last year.
You never know when it is yourlast day.
And so to live your life for oneday, one day is now all we have
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is here and now it's the presentmoment.
And this, I asked that questionto one of my colleagues who was
in a state like I was, and she.
Is such a beautiful examplebecause even though it meant she
would lose some of her pensionand all these other things,
money.
Mm-hmm.
All like a bunch of stuff thatnormal people would go, I need
(44:38):
that.
I asked her this question andshe went, that changed my life.
And she decided then like withina week she was like, I'm done.
I can't do this job anymore.
I need to take care of myselfand I need to be, and that can
be a process.
That is hard for some, butagain, you never know.
(45:00):
Yeah.
What you don't know until youtry.
And people on their deathbed,what do they regret?
Not loving more, not having moretime with family, not going and
experiencing the world orwhatever that might mean to
them.
Right.
It's not, oh, I wish I workedmore.
I wish I stayed in my job moreand had more and money.
I wish I, uh, did clean my housemore.
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It's never those things.
Yeah.
So allowing yourself to livefrom your soul's essence.
Everybody knows what that soundslike.
Well, we just pretend like wedon't.
Until we are faced with thereality of, okay, keep
pretending or there's somethingthat's going to really jar you,
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and that's those rock bottommoments.
But it doesn't have to getthere.
You don't have to get, which isexactly why.
I have this show so people don'thave to hit those rock bottom
moments to get themselves out.
Yes, it.
It many times works forindividuals.
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Not always we know, but let'snot make that a prior.
Let's not let that happen.
That's why I have incredibleguests like yourself, and it's a
blessing to be able to sharethis space with you.
We have in the show notes all ofthe ways that you can contact
and find Lizzie.
She's everywhere.
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We are all connected.
We believe that.
We know that and reach outbecause I can tell you I've had
the experience and it was secondto none.
It was amazing, and I am sograteful for our time together
today.
Thank you for chiming in fromKuwait.
Oh my gosh, I love this.
(46:48):
I'm so deeply.
Um.
Appreciative and moved by whatyou do.
Thank you for doing what you do.
Thank you for being the shiningbeacon that you are.
Your energy is contagious andyou are giving people that
(47:10):
opportunity to live their bestlives now.
Yeah.
So thank you for who you be,what you bring to this world,
and for having me to share myjourney with you.
Thank you so much, Lizzie, forbeing here again in the show
notes.
Double check, see how you canfind Lizzie.
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Connect with her.
Um, let her magic hit your worldand your life will never be the
same.
My name is Denise, drink Walter,and I am a midlife renewal coach
and helping people thrive after45.
Have a great day, everyone, andwe will see you again.
Bye.
Hello and welcome to the ThriveAfter 45 podcast where we
redefine the significance of youfor you by you.
Because of you.
I am Denise Drinkwater, amidlife renewal coach here to
help women embrace their power.
Purpose and potential.
This show is your space toexplore what's possible when you
(00:24):
prioritize you.
Through inspiring conversations,expert insights, and real
stories, we'll uncover how tonavigate transitions, rediscover
joy and thrive inside and out.
It's time to let go of guilt.
Fully embrace the life that'swaiting for you.
This is the Thrive After 45podcast, and it is your time to
(00:47):
thrive for you, by you becauseof you.
What an honor and a privilege towelcome and introduce Elizabeth
Segal to the Thrive after 45podcasts today.
Lizzie's Path to Mastery wasn'tshaped by textbooks or titles.
It was carved through personaltransformation, spiritual
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awakening, and a deep soulremembrance of who she truly is.
She has lived the extremes ofthe human experience from the
depths of financial hardship,homelessness.
Trauma chronic health challengesto the heights of healing,
global travel and energeticmastery.
(01:33):
With over 20 years as a guideteacher and energetic anchor,
and five years offering soulaligned mentorship and holistic
coaching, Lizzie has become a.
Beacon for thousands.
Her work bridges the physicaland the mystical, the practical,
and the profound.
She is a meta guide, amultidimensional mentor, grid
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guardian, portal, priestess,frequency holder, and sole
strategist.
Her mission.
To support others in masteringthe energetics of manifestation,
healing, embodiment, andconscious leadership.
Lizzie doesn't just teach, sheembodies.
She is the only certified psychK facilitator in Kuwait and
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served as Lululemon's YogaAmbassador in the Middle East.
She's led global retreatsstudies.
Was studied with shamans andmystics and worked with earth
chakras and sacred sites, allwhile transmitting frequencies
that shift lives.
Her clients come to her todissolve limitations at that
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root level, whether it'shealing, automo, autoimmune
issues, unlocking abundance,navigating spiritual awakenings,
or launching.
Soul aligned businesses.
When you work with Lizzie,everything becomes possible.
Lizzie, I can't wait to havethis conversation.
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We are so grateful to have youwith us here today.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you so much for the.
Beautiful introduction.
Thank you for having me on theshow.
It's such an honor to be herewith you and I am, uh, just
beyond delighted I can.
I can't wait to dig in herebecause the depth of which you
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live your life I know has notalways been the way it's been.
How on earth did you know?
When you were going to do suchprofound work in this world.
That's such a fun question andI, I love to say like I was one
(03:48):
of those lucky beings who.
Remembered from a very youngage, and I, I was tuned in and
tapped in and turned on when Iwas young and I was given some
messages very early on, likefive, six years and younger that
this would be part of myjourney.
(04:09):
And then as is common, I forgot,hmm.
And I forgot for many, many,many years.
But then when I remembered, itwas like, oh yeah, I remember
that.
And so it was this aha momentof, yep, that makes perfect
sense.
And here we are.
And now it's my treat tocontinue to remember, because
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that's what we're all doing.
We're remembering it's yes, welearn.
Yes, we grow.
And really we're uncovering andon layering and returning.
Resourcing returning to sourcewithin and remembering the
wholeness of who we are.
Your eyes light up when youanswered.
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I was like, yep.
She's talking about who she isas a person, which is exactly
what we are talking about inthis show.
Doing what you need to do foryou by you because of you.
Is there anything in particularis there in your mind's eye
where you can go?
I remember this time when I wasfive, when I was six, and this
(05:17):
was something that you couldshare with the audience because
I think what happens is whenpeople hear other people's
stories.
Things drop for them and all ofa sudden they see things
differently.
So is there something you canshare along those lines?
Absolutely.
Um, one of the key moments and,and this really just cuts to the
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weird that I am one of, and it'slike, it's just totally out
there.
And I, I know that, uh, somepeople who hear this, they'll be
like, I'm not the only one.
Um, when I was young.
I was very connected to whatpeople would refer to as aliens
or the galactic realm and angelsas well.
(06:03):
And there was an instance whereI was visited by
extraterrestrial beings and Iremember it all happening.
I remember this taking place,and then I went and told my
mother, and I know I scared her.
And it was all, it wasn't justlike, oh, that's weird.
(06:25):
It was like, what is happening?
And I learned from thatexperience, oh, we don't talk
about this.
Like this isn't okay.
And so I learned how to likekeep that part quiet.
However, there were otherinstances where I would talk
about things like angels thatwas far more acceptable.
Mm-hmm.
And so if I would share a storyabout an angel or whatever,
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because I was raised in aChristian family.
So angels are commonplace,right.
And I could share about thatkind of thing.
So I learned like that's a farmore acceptable path to talk
about and to go down that road.
And it was these interactionswhere there was one particular
interaction where I was goingthrough a very deep grief.
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Um, my OPA had.
Passed away around this time andor maybe a little later blur.
Timelines are a little bitblurred.
Sure.
But I remember that I was justfeeling so lost and so alone,
and I was about eight years oldand I called in like I prayed to
(07:29):
God.
That was what I knew how to do.
I prayed right, and I called,asked for support, and it was
like this presence filled theroom with me and.
Stayed with me and that presencehas been with me my entire life.
And again, I forgot about it fora long period of time.
Sure.
But yeah, I was tuned back intothese dimensions and I awakened
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and I remembered the truth ofwho I am.
Somebody was like, oh, when youhave an angel, that's by you all
the time.
And I was like, yes.
Yes I do.
You're right.
And I know when they camebecause I remember.
Right.
Sure.
So how did you go from.
What you were doing prior togoing into the depths of what
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you do now, how did you knowthat this was the route for you
because of the work that you dois so, um, giving back to
showing others what's possiblefor them.
Um, how, how did that unravelfor you?
How did that roll out?
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When I was about 18, I actually,before I went to like
university, I wanted to be amassage therapist.
Okay.
I wanted to be, I wanted to be ahealer because I knew that that
was part of my path.
Yet I let myself get talked outof it and do the traditional
route that I should do.
And I was like the golden child,which sounds really nice in
(09:00):
theory, but is actually a lot ofpressure, right?
And, uh, a lot of, um, selfabandonment and people pleasing
so that I would.
Mm.
Go on a different journey for awhile.
Right?
And I went to school, gotdegrees, and then I was like,
well, what am I gonna do?
Because none of this is sittingwith me, right?
So I ended up a teacher and atthe time I was like, I'm just
(09:23):
gonna be a teacher.
And I say, just with such alaughable likeness because you
are never just a teacher.
You are so much more than that.
And that journey took me on, um.
Really the journey that led meback to here because being a
teacher, you tell kids they canbe anything that they desire,
(09:45):
anything that they believe in,and you help them cultivate
skills and tools and practicesto get there.
And then there was this momentwhere I was like so deeply
dissatisfied with my life andeverything.
It was like everything was goingwrong, wrong.
When it rains, it pours.
And I.
I was injured, I was unhappy.
(10:07):
Just all the things.
And I was like, well, if it'strue for them, why is it not
true for me?
And so I had a little minibreakdown, breakdown the break,
and I went on a solo journey,um, during Covid Times actually
to Thailand and.
(10:28):
My remembrance remembered me.
And it, you know, like in HarryPotter, the one chooses the
wizard.
My, my life path was like, hereyou're, we're ready for you.
Thank you for coming.
And um, I learned energy healingand that was honestly the path
back.
It started with yoga.
It started with like physicalpractice, breath work,
(10:50):
meditation.
But it was, that clicked into adifferent frequency with energy
healing.
That was my.
Journey to this, this side ofthe right, the veil.
Right, so, so what you're, whatyou're saying is very, it's
resonates so much for me becausewe talk a lot about giving back
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to ourselves, but a lot ofpeople are, are thinking the
external, right.
I'll go and do an activity andI'll find out who I am, and
that's what I'm hearing.
How you started doing the yoga,the meditation, the, those
pieces.
But there was a why a deeper.
Voice, a deeper remembrance ofdeeper there.
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She's, and you were able tolisten and hear that and action
on it because you were goingback to who you were, right?
Yeah.
That piece that you mentioned,that action, it's so crucial
because if you know, action isthe language of the physical
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body in the physical materialplane, and.
As a teacher, I have spent yearsaccumulating knowledge and, and
book learning, and I'm excellentat that too.
But sure, if you apply what itis you're learning, the lessons
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don't get integrated and thenthey are lost.
And when we take action, we aresignaling to the holographic
reality that is life the mirror.
Hey.
I am worthy.
I know that this is how itworks.
I get to choose the direction Imove in.
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That is action.
That is movement.
And from there I create the lifethat I desire.
And you know, in our socialmedia age, there's so much
knowledge consumption.
There's so much Suck it in, butwhat are you doing with it?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The work that you do to help,like.
(12:58):
Help with autoimmune disease.
That's massive.
Like healing major, major lifealtering.
I'm, I'm, I, I'm speechless.
I, I'm, because I know peoplewho have auto autoimmune and
every day is a challenge how?
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In the world.
Does that even happen where thework that you do affects healing
at that level?
So physical ailments dis-ease.
Yeah.
Is disease is the dis-ease inyour body.
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And in yoga and Ayurveda, weknow that and.
Western Science doesn't focus onthis as much as Eastern science,
but we know that dis disease ordisease is a physical
manifestation in the body, andit's the last stage of the
disease.
It's not the first.
It's a symptom of the last stagewhen you have ignored all the
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other subtler symptoms along theway and all the other layers of
the self.
We don't just have a physicalbody.
We have a physical body, anemotional body, a mental body,
an intellectual body, and aspiritual body.
And when we can honor all thelayers of the self and be.
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So okay with being radicallyhonest with the self that we get
to the root of the issue, we candissolve literally anything.
The thing is, is that if we'vebeen so conditioned and trained
to believe that this physicalbody and, and the symptoms or
the experiences that happen toit in it of it are.
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Out of our control.
Mm-hmm.
Then that's what we believe, andwe don't have agency over our
own physical manifestation.
When I read through Yoga andAyurveda, that disease was a
manifestation.
I was like, well then if Imanifested it in, surely I can
manifest it out.
Mm.
And I knew in that moment, okay,I'm gonna heal.
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And I had wicked awfulautoimmune diseases.
I had fibromyalgia, I hadsomething that they thought was.
But it turned out to be anundifferentiated connective
tissue disease.
It was something they were like,we don't even really know what
to call it.
And it's not, they were justkind of boggled because it came
out of nowhere.
But really it came out of livinga life that was deeply
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misaligned and ignoring it forso long when I chose to sit with
the discomfort and sometimesstillness is needed.
Mm-hmm.
And to go.
What's happening here and whatare the pieces of my life that
are making me so miserable andbeing okay with whatever answer
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came up, and I was not okay withit at first at all.
You know, you would rather beright.
Then we would rather be healedand whole because that ego, the
negative ego, it's doing itsjob.
It's to protect us, it's to keepus alive.
But once we can understand that,if the ego gets exposed, if it
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gets illuminated, as I say,mm-hmm.
It doesn't die.
It just becomes another optionin all the possible options.
So when we can sit with thepossibility of, you could be
wrong about this, right, and youcould actually heal from it,
then we can open up to a wholenew realm of possibility and
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healing.
And there's many layers to thisbecause even so, people.
Often will hold on to diseasesand ailments, um, and even like
injuries much longer than theyactually need to because there's
a benefit in them keeping it.
(16:56):
Mm-hmm.
And that there's another layerof honesty too, because.
You can ask like, well, what doyou gain by having this disease?
Well, people take care of me.
I don't have to work, I don'thave to, uh, do everything for
myself.
I, I get special treatment and Iget to protect myself.
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And it seems like a reallybackwards, roundabout way of
doing all of this.
But the subconscious mind is,it's deeply symbolic.
Hmm.
And.
The conscious mind is reallydoing its job to protect us, and
the soul already knows that thisis part of the journey.
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So it's okay with going on it,and it's not pitying you, right?
It's not right.
You are having an experiencethat you chose to have so that
you could either repeat orevolve.
Love it.
You're, you're talking and I'm,something that just flew into my
mind was a book I'm currentlyreading by Carolyn Elliott, PhD
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and it's called ExistentialKink.
And she's talks about, have you,have you heard of the book?
I've heard of it, but I've notread it.
I, I recommend you read itbecause it's exactly what you
were talking about.
There's a benefit in whatever itis, the ailment, the, the
concern, the issue.
You stay there because you aregetting something out of it.
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Even though you feel, I hatethis, I don't want, right?
There's something in that.
So how do you switch that, uh,flip that switch so that it
changes and you see it for whatit really is and not be afraid
of it.
Right.
Yeah.
We are so taught to fear theunknown.
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Yeah.
And it's so, you know, it'sinteresting because mm-hmm.
All we're ever gonna find in theunknown is more of ourselves.
But when we have these storiesthat we tell or, and that we
continue to perpetuate.
It becomes scary and fear anddoubt.
They're actually not signals tostop.
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They're signals to keep goingbecause I love this analogy that
I use because I think I, Iworked with little, I've worked
with little children for so muchof my life.
Sure.
And they show us everything weneed to learn.
When a little kid realizes thatit's not gonna get what it
wants.
Think about if you're at agrocery store and you watch a
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child want the candy bar, andthey'll go around the grocery
store whining after their motherbegging, pleading, please give
me this.
Please let me have it.
When they get to the checkoutand they realize they're maybe
not gonna get that chocolatebar, you watch them throw a
temper tantrum.
And fear and doubt are just likethat, that they get the loudest
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right before they're about to beexposed, right before they're
about to be revealed and they'regonna get a no because the job
of the defense mechanism of anegative belief is to perpetuate
itself and to do whatever it canto stay alive.
But again, like I said, ifyou're willing to say, okay,
when I expose you, all you'regoing to realize is you still
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get to exist and you become apossible option.
I can always go back and choosethat option.
It's there, it's available, butI could also choose an option in
the direction that I actuallysay I prefer.
Yet so many people I.
Especially people with, um,health issues, injuries,
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ailments.
And I speak to this with so muchcompassion.
'cause this was, of course, ofcourse they're in the victim
mindset.
Mm-hmm.
And they, they feel sodisempowered that they do not
have a choice.
And I know that that might betriggering also, but that's what
I'm here to do.
Activate people to help them.
Remember, you have a choice nomatter what.
And even not making a choice isa choice in and of itself.
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Right.
We make choices every day,whether we believe it or not.
The reality is, every single daywe do make multiple choices, and
some of them are just because ofthis is how we do life.
But I like what you said earlierabout.
The five components.
There's not just the physicalpiece.
There's all the other piecesthat we are not using to bring
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ourselves to the fullness of whowe truly are.
And that's the work that youlove to do and are so gifted at
it.
Um.
I know that you shared thismorning, and thank you for
sharing all that stuff thismorning.
I'm like, look at her.
She's going crazy about ourconversation coming up, but I'm
(21:38):
excited.
I'm so excited.
Right.
So we had an opportunity toconnect long before this, um,
where you took me on, I'm gonnacall it on a journey.
And it was a journey that I'venever had before.
And I've done different thingsin my lifetime.
I've done, you know, um,drumming and different
(22:02):
experiences like that.
Um, and it was absolutely lifechanging.
And I, the, the part that Ithink is so amazing and to this
day, I still am like.
God, how does this even work?
But I didn't do anything.
I just was in space with youvirtually like this, and you
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went through a variety ofthings.
I can't even say what they allare, but you did.
You did your magic on your end,and I just got to sit and think.
Like asked, you asked me certainquestions and I would just take
it and you would clear things,and I've had this experience
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with another person who didsomething similar, but a
different modality and the samething.
It's just like.
I feel different, but I don'tknow how that's even possible.
'cause I haven't moved.
I'm in the same chair.
I'm not, I, you know, I haven'tstretched anything.
Can you speak a little bit topsych K?
'cause that's the exercise that,the exercise, I don't even know
what you wanna call it.
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The experience that we didtogether so that people in the
audience can hear the power ofthat opportunity that exists.
Thank you for asking.
Yes, of course I can.
And also, I just wanna take amoment to say thank you to you
and honor you in yourexperience, because the way I
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see things.
We are all one.
And whenever you say yes to you,not only do you say yes to you,
you say yes to the collective.
You say yes to everything andeverybody, and that
transformation that takes placein you isn't just for you.
It's for every single person.
And that seen and unseen every,every living, breathing.
(23:58):
Not even living and breathingall of consciousness and it
expands collectively.
And that is so important.
And so thank you for being youand for being part of that
experience.
My pleasure.
So Ske is one of my favoritetools that I use in my
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practices.
Um, psyche is a spiritual.
Process with psychological,physical, mental, emotional
benefits, right?
And what we do in psych K, you,you call them exercises, we, we
call them balance.
So in psych K, it is a processwhereby we honor the whole
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human, the whole self.
And we work with the superconscious mind, which not in
psyche, but in other placespeople might call it your
highest self or your, your.
Your soul self, or many, manyother.
We work with the subconsciousmind and we work with the
conscious, um, what comes out inthe conscious.
(25:04):
Right, right.
So this process is beautifulbecause I like to use the
analogy of a computer and.
This is why I like to use itbecause they don't really
understand computers.
Yeah.
Need to.
Because what I do understand isthat there is only so much in
the universe that you will everunderstand, and it's like a
little dot, that's how muchyou're gonna ever understand.
(25:26):
There is infinite amounts ofeverything and we can't possibly
understand it all.
We get to experience and knowthis like little dot of it.
Mm-hmm.
So that's like the superconscious realm, let's say.
Right.
And.
The subconscious mind.
You can think of it like thecomputer operating system.
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It's running scripts.
It's doing so much backgroundwork.
It processes information atabout 50 to a hundred thousand
bits of information per second.
It's super fast, high levelcomputing.
Do I know how that works?
However, I do know how to opentabs on my computer.
I do know how to log intodifferent functions and things
(26:10):
like that.
That's like the conscious mind,right?
And so when we can understandthat, we can communicate with
the subconscious mind, and thisis the part about like Psyche
that I do know.
Like I know how to do that.
I've been trained in that.
I know how to, how to accessthat part.
It would be like I'm a computerprogrammer and I know how to
work that part, right?
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I help people.
Through these balances, tuneinto the subconscious beliefs
and we see what are beliefs thatare limiting or beliefs that are
enhancing.
We can also work with trauma,stress, and any other like
heavy, dense kind of, uh,experience to transmute that and
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reach a state of peace andnon-attachment.
And so Psyche works because weperceive.
The experience and the beliefs,and instead of just trying to
put stuff on top and pretendlike that's not there, we
actually, with intention go intomm-hmm.
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The subconscious limitingbeliefs, the subconscious
trauma, the body trauma even,and we're able to.
Let all of that come up to thesurface to be witnessed, to be
integrated and then clear it andprogram in what you would
rather, what you would likeinstead.
And so it's this process ofunderstanding.
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We don't just put some morestuff on top.
It's like having a full cup ofrocks.
You can't just Right rocks ontop, they don't fit.
You have to dump it out andthen.
Fill it up.
So the same thing is true withche.
We, we bring it all up.
We clear what needs to becleared, and then we program in
new beliefs.
Again, like an operating systemof a computer, you have to,
(27:58):
again, here's the part that Idon't know, I kind of wipe it,
but I don't do that part.
The update does that part on itsown.
Same as in, I don't actuallyhave to go in there and clean
things up for you.
That's what your super consciousdoes.
That's what that part of askingfor permission allows us to do
(28:18):
because we don't need to do thatpart that's taken care of by
source.
God, the universe, your superconscious, whatever you believe
in, right?
It's there.
Love it.
Love it.
And when we did our worktogether, you had mentioned to
me, and correct me if I'm wrong,but that you do psych work on
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yourself, you balance yourselfall the time.
So knowing that, is thereanything you could share that
you could say is the mostmagical thing that's ever
happened when you fully.
Chose you?
(29:00):
Oh gosh, yeah.
Great question.
I have thousands of miraculousstories.
Like miracles are regular forme, but the biggest one I will
say is something that I hadwanted to do for so long.
Uh, I have been a teacher forlike.
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17 plus years and I had wantedto leave the teaching career and
the job for.
About six years and I couldn'tdo it.
No matter what I did, what Itried, everything, I would just
keep looping and getting stuckin the, but it's safe, I'm
comfortable, I have a goodpension, a blah, like all these
(29:44):
things that logically makesense.
And in the 3D world, they makesense and, and you know, family
reinforcing this belief andeverything.
Yet my soul was screaming at me.
Hmm.
It was just saying, you, you'vegotta make a switch.
So when I did, uh, a verytransformative, um, alternative
(30:05):
life balance in psychic, it's anadvanced balance that what we
do, I made it.
Two of my action steps that Imust Ooh, balloons.
I love that too.
Yeah.
If you're listening to thepodcast, um, Lizzie just put her
fingers up and all theseballoons came to celebrate what
(30:25):
she's gonna be talking about.
So funny.
Uh, um, I did, I did this actionstep for two of my, um.
Two of the things I mustcomplete, and it was to sign no
on my contract.
And I had wanted to for years.
And so that time came where itwas like, okay, your contract's
(30:49):
here, you need to sign.
No.
And of course I could have not.
That was an option, but I reallywanted my life to change and I
knew that I had to take thatreally bold, scary action for
me.
Mm-hmm.
And.
Once I did, like, I, I rememberI was sitting on my couch.
I signed no, and then I went,huh.
(31:12):
How funny of me that I made itto sign no on my contract, and I
did it.
And I went, I breathed the sighof relief.
I felt very accomplished, butthen I was like.
That wasn't so scary.
That wasn't such a big deal.
And then I laughed and I waslike, well, I guess the next
part is I should hand it in.
Right?
That was, that was the nextlogical step.
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So of course I handed in the no,and then my life changed wildly
every like more.
Things just started falling intoplace.
Aligned.
Clients started flowing in.
People reached out to me andlike featured me in magazines.
I, I started writing for othermagazines.
I had so many opportunities anda lot of, a lot of other stuff
(31:57):
happened where like, stuffstarted leaving my life and I
was like, oh, this alignment,this is part of, this doesn't
align with your new frequencyand so it must be cleared out in
order for your new reality totake shape.
And so.
I would be lying to say it's allrainbows and butterflies all the
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time, because that's not true.
The whole part about holding allthis light and love is that you
go through the shadows, thedepths, and the darkness in
order to be able to hold all thelight.
We live in a dualistic world.
And being able to hold all thelight means also being able to
see all the dark.
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When you turn on the lightswitch in a room, now you see
all the dirty stuff too, right?
So it's part of knowing thatthis experience, while it gets
to be joyful, and it can beeasy, we don't have to do, make
it be hard work.
I say it's the hard work, andthis can be a little jarring at
times, but with the rightsupport and with the right.
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Uh, belief systems in place,which is why I use Psyche so
much, is to work on the beliefsbecause whatever you believe is
what manifests in your physicalreality.
We do not manifest from theconscious mind alone.
We manifest from thesubconscious and the soul level
as well.
And so when we align ourbeliefs, which are in our
subconscious, then we can allowour soul to shine through, and
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this is why it becomes easy andeffortless and beautiful.
Mm-hmm.
And I love what you're saying interms of the duality, because
the important piece thatresonates for me in this
conversation that I wanna shareis that if you stay doing, if
you're resonating with whatLizzie's saying and you're like,
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but it's, you know, I look atthe outside and, and everybody's
right.
I've got the pension, I've gotthis, I've got all these, but
I'm.
I'm not happy.
How long do I stay not happyfor?
And how long does it take beforethat dis.
Ease starts to enter in andthings I thought were, I can, I
(34:10):
can do it.
I'll just suck it up buttercup.
It's a job.
You're blah, blah, blah.
Instead of going to the duality,I.
Actually putting your toe in thewater, knowing people like
Lizzie exists to help youthrough that journey and help
you with your belief system andhelp you move more towards your
(34:33):
aligned soul truth.
And in so doing, yes.
Thank you for sharing, Lizzie,that there are hard times.
It doesn't mean it's unicornsand butterflies, but the results
are you're living a life.
Of your choosing and you'remaking the choices that you
truly desire, and we never knowwhat's gonna roll out as a
(35:00):
result.
We have ideas, but those ideasare human and it doesn't take
into the other pieces that, uh,new opportunities can present
themselves.
Like you said, all this stuffstarted falling into my lap.
It's like what?
It couldn't before.
There wasn't space for it.
Right.
You said something that I justwanna mention that really is
(35:24):
important on this journey ofsaying yes to yourself.
A couple things.
One is that you get to chooseyour heart.
I.
Speak from my personalexperience.
I once was more than a hundredpounds overweight.
And that was hard.
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That was a hard life in so manydifferent regards.
And I remember how hard it wasto live, how hard it felt to be
in my own.
Mm-hmm.
How discomfort, like I felt inso much discomfort all the time
and I lost all that weight.
And people said, well, wasn'tthat hard?
And I said, yes, I guess it washard, but.
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I was choosing my heart.
It was harder to stay stuck in abody, in light, in a mindset, in
this, this misery than it was todecide to make a choice and a
change step by step in the thatI wanted to be in.
And people always try to eat thewhole elephant at the one time
(36:29):
elephant, one bite at a time ifyou're going up the mountain.
And that looks daunting.
It does.
Just look at your feet, take onestep at a time, and then it
doesn't seem so challenging.
And again, support,encouragement, those, the right
people surrounding you along theway is really key.
And then you also said about,um, my mind went away for a
(36:52):
moment.
Eh, if it wants to come back, itwill.
You're we're very similar.
I have a couple of ideas.
Don't forget them.
Oh, what?
Same game.
But it doesn't wanna, it doesn'twanna hang out with me right
now.
That's okay.
Um, is there anything that youwould love to share with our
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audience that will give themsomething to go back and.
Uncover, discover, think about,contemplate for you by you
because of you by giving back toyourself in ways that you've
never actually consideredbefore.
Is there any golden nugget thatyou would love to close our
(37:37):
conversation with this, uh, uh,this morning?
Yeah, and it, and it kind ofgoes with what I was, I think,
what I was thinking before thatI wanted to share.
So, perfect.
We often believe that we have toearn our worth.
Mm.
And this is one of the biggestblocks to the life that we
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desire.
And again, I like that idea ofchoosing your heart.
You do not have to earn yourworth.
You are inherently worthybecause you exist.
If you weren't worthy, yousimply would not exist.
But because you exist andbecause of all this conditioning
that tells us we have to proveour worth or prove this, prove
(38:24):
that we get lost in this idea ofwhat it means to live a joyful
life or a fulfilled life or aloving life, and.
True unconditional love, whichis what source God, the
universe, whatever you wannacall it.
Consciousness pure awareness is,is unconditional love.
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And people get that definitionreally confused sometimes, but
it really means withoutcondition.
So if you want to live a life ofstruggle, if you wanna live a
hard life, you can choose that,and the universe will literally
unconditionally support that andgo, okay, here you go.
If you want to live a life ofease, joy, fulfillment, the
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whatever it is that you desire,the universe will go, okay, here
you go.
Notice how my inflection didn'tchange because it's not like,
okay, you want to live a joyful,easy life.
Here you go.
And okay, you wanna live a hard,difficult, go ahead.
No, it's neutral.
It is unconditional love andgrace, and when you can start
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applying that to yourselfmm-hmm.
Like you would a small babyinfant or a really old person.
We have a lot of unconditionalgrace and compassion and love
for them.
Apply that to yourself and knowthat your worth can never be
taken away.
The we build empires of burnoutand self-sacrifice and
(39:52):
separation, but when you beginto like dissolve all of that and
truly remember that it's yourbeing, that's the value.
You recalibrate your wholeentire reality.
You get to receive just as muchas you give.
You get to create effortlesslyand instead of proving, you are
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simply here in presence.
And that's so, so beautifulbecause you recognize then that
abundance is your birthright.
And it's not just abundancefinancially.
It is abundance in all the ways.
And you anchor into that and youknow that it's a frequency.
It's not something to get, Hmm.
It's not something to prove.
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It's something to align with asa frequency, as an energy.
And one thing I just wanna likeleave people with, because it's
so clear in this example, whenyou are ill, when you don't have
good health, like maybe you havereally, really bad health, or
maybe you just have a cold andyou wish to get better, you know
(40:59):
that by wishing and wanting anddoing whatever you can to get
better, you don't take away thehealth of somebody else.
Mm-hmm.
Health is abundant, wellbeing isabundant, and it's available to
everybody.
You would never go, oh, if I getbetter, then that means that
person gets sicker.
No, it doesn't work that way.
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The same is true with every formof abundance, money,
relationships, um, mentalhealth.
Physical health, emotionalhealth, social status.
There is an abundance ofeverything, and it's a matter of
reprogramming yourself torealize you're not taking
anything away from anybody else.
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That scarcity is actually a lie.
Abundance is the only truth, andeven when you have lack, you
don't lack abundance.
You have an abundance of lack,and so you can simply.
Choose Again, it's a choice.
It's a conscious choice toswitch and go, okay, well then
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if I believe that I lackedabundance, I'm going to believe
that I have abundance, that I amabundant, that frequency and
everything begins to becomesimpler because it really is
simple.
We just have to get out of ourown way.
Yeah.
You're not fighting.
You're not fighting yourself.
Right.
Yeah.
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Seeing what is possible, knowingthat your belief system is the
driver of your bus.
So if you want to get on adifferent bus, all you do is get
out and move over.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
And it's there for the taking.
It's, it's daily choices, it'sdaily thoughts, it's daily
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acceptance.
And I love what you're talkingabout because everybody is born
worthy.
I.
There's, we don't have to gofind it.
I know a lot of people talkabout, well, when I retire I
will have this, this, I can'thave it now.
The part that makes my heartache forever is we don't know
when our last breath is, and howmany times have we heard in our
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world people didn't make it toretirement when they were gonna
start living?
Every day is a choice to live,so yeah.
That that is so important.
If you would ask yourself thisquestion, and it's one that
really woke me up.
I asked myself the question if Ihad,'cause there was a point in
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my life where I didn't want tolive anymore, and it was like.
Well, let's just say this isyour last chance at life because
it was that dire.
It felt that awful.
Would you rather take a chanceand just go full out and do the
things that you say you'vealways wanted to do or just give
(43:53):
up and dine out?
And so if you had a year left tolive, would you still be doing
what it is you're doing or wouldyou really.
Live your life to the fullestbecause you never know when it
is your last year.
You never know when it is yourlast day.
And so to live your life for oneday, one day is now all we have
(44:17):
is here and now it's the presentmoment.
And this, I asked that questionto one of my colleagues who was
in a state like I was, and she.
Is such a beautiful examplebecause even though it meant she
would lose some of her pensionand all these other things,
money.
Mm-hmm.
All like a bunch of stuff thatnormal people would go, I need
(44:38):
that.
I asked her this question andshe went, that changed my life.
And she decided then like withina week she was like, I'm done.
I can't do this job anymore.
I need to take care of myselfand I need to be, and that can
be a process.
That is hard for some, butagain, you never know.
(45:00):
Yeah.
What you don't know until youtry.
And people on their deathbed,what do they regret?
Not loving more, not having moretime with family, not going and
experiencing the world orwhatever that might mean to
them.
Right.
It's not, oh, I wish I workedmore.
I wish I stayed in my job moreand had more and money.
I wish I, uh, did clean my housemore.
(45:23):
It's never those things.
Yeah.
So allowing yourself to livefrom your soul's essence.
Everybody knows what that soundslike.
Well, we just pretend like wedon't.
Until we are faced with thereality of, okay, keep
pretending or there's somethingthat's going to really jar you,
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and that's those rock bottommoments.
But it doesn't have to getthere.
You don't have to get, which isexactly why.
I have this show so people don'thave to hit those rock bottom
moments to get themselves out.
Yes, it.
It many times works forindividuals.
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Not always we know, but let'snot make that a prior.
Let's not let that happen.
That's why I have incredibleguests like yourself, and it's a
blessing to be able to sharethis space with you.
We have in the show notes all ofthe ways that you can contact
and find Lizzie.
She's everywhere.
(46:26):
We are all connected.
We believe that.
We know that and reach outbecause I can tell you I've had
the experience and it was secondto none.
It was amazing, and I am sograteful for our time together
today.
Thank you for chiming in fromKuwait.
Oh my gosh, I love this.
(46:48):
I'm so deeply.
Um.
Appreciative and moved by whatyou do.
Thank you for doing what you do.
Thank you for being the shiningbeacon that you are.
Your energy is contagious andyou are giving people that
(47:10):
opportunity to live their bestlives now.
Yeah.
So thank you for who you be,what you bring to this world,
and for having me to share myjourney with you.
Thank you so much, Lizzie, forbeing here again in the show
notes.
Double check, see how you canfind Lizzie.
(47:30):
Connect with her.
Um, let her magic hit your worldand your life will never be the
same.
My name is Denise, drink Walter,and I am a midlife renewal coach
and helping people thrive after45.
Have a great day, everyone, andwe will see you again.
Bye.
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