November 20, 2025 • 36 mins
Hey friend, you need to grab a cup of coffee and sit down for this one. This episode of Thrive After 45™ with the incredible Elizabeth Kelly is truly honest and so, so needed.
Elizabeth is a transformative self-love and mindset coach who came on the show to share her whole, messy, beautiful journey of navigating divorce, finding sobriety, and having to completely rebuild her life from the inside out.
Her story is standing proof that the pain that once cracked you open was never meant to destroy you, but to actually awaken you to the woman you were always supposed to be.
We have an open-hearted conversation about identity and the moment Elizabeth realized she had to stop trying to erase her past.
She talks about changing her name (from Foster to Kelly!) and shares a powerful piece she wrote called "Beautifully Broken."
She explains that healing is really about integrating all your stories, owning them, and thanking them for getting you here.
This conversation is your permission slip to realize you can be messy and still be worthy.
If you’ve ever felt like you were just hustling through the first half of life, only to pause and wonder, "Wait, who am I underneath all this?" this is the episode for you.
She gives us the first, most crucial step to take when you're feeling totally stuck.
This one is going to light a fire under you and remind you that you are whole, complete, and exactly where you need to be.
Connect with Elizabeth Kelly:
Instagram: @elizabeth_fortheloveofself
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/elizabethfortheloveofself
Email: elizabeth@fortheloveofself.coach
Schedule time for a FREE clarity call: https://calendly.com/elizabeth-fortheloveofself/strategy-call-with-coach-elizabeth
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Hello, and welcome to today'sepisode of Thrive after 45.
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I'm Denise Drink, heartwhisperer, midlife, mirror and
mentor.
Every week I am absolutelyhonored to share energy and
space with inspiring guestswhose stories reflect so many
possibilities of thriving beyond45.
Together we'll uncover thewhispers of the heart, the power
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of midlife transformation, andthe wisdom that fuels expansion.
Yeah.
What if the pain that oncecracked you open was absolutely
never meant to destroy you, butto awaken you to the woman you
were always meant to be.
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Such an honor and a privilege towelcome and introduce Elizabeth.
Foster to Thrive after Founderof For the Love of Self-Coaching
and host of the Self-Love Loungepodcast.
Elizabeth is a transformativeself-love and mindset coach.
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She's on a mission to igniteinner transformation, her own
story.
Through the messy middle ofdivorce, sobriety and rebuilding
her life from the inside outbecame the foundation of her
work and her contribution torattled awake volume seven.
A passionate advocate forself-worth and empowerment.
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Elizabeth has guided over 150women to silence their inner
critics, reclaim their voice,and build lives rooted in love,
authenticity, and peace.
As a contributor, contributor toher Nation magazine, she
continues to amplify a movementthat reminds women everywhere.
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When you know your worth, youshift the world, and today she's
standing as living proof thathealing is how you healing
yourself.
Is how you begin to heal theworld.
Welcome to our show today, Liz.
Thank you, Denise.
I'm so excited to be here withyou today.
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Thank you for having me.
You know, the last time weconnected and met, I wasn't able
to share the depth and breadthof what I just shared today, and
it wasn't that long ago that weconnected right.
Yeah, it was just about a yearago.
Yeah.
Right.
And I, and I'm reading it andI'm looking at everything that
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you, because audience, what I dois I send a few questions just
to help me create anintroduction for the fabulous
guests that I have.
And I'm reading the answers tothe questions and I'm like,
well, she didn't use to do that.
And she did, wait a minute, howlong ago did we connect?
Fabulous.
Isn't it incredible what happenswhen we start to look after
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ourselves from the inside out?
How things just start growingand expanding beyond our
imaginations Can.
Reveal there is.
It sure is.
And actually one of the thingsthat has changed, which clearly
I haven't updated my name isit's now Elizabeth Kelly, no
longer Elizabeth Foster.
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Um, and so I.
In the last year have justreally kind of ballooned and
expanded in a, in a bunch ofdifferent ways, which I'd love
to share with you when it makessense.
But, you know, certainly thisjourney that I've been on, there
was no, there was no roadmap.
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It was.
You know, feeling it out as Iwent.
And man, it's amazing how manydoors open and how much changes
when you just allow things tocome to you versus you pushing
things into a certain direction.
So again, so happy to be here.
I love the work you do, andthank you.
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Well, thank you for clarifyingthe name, because as I was
reading, I was like, uhoh, itsays Foster better go with.
Yeah, I know.
I was like, oh man.
I just noticed too that I didn'tchange it on Zoom either, so my
apologies with, oh, you knowwhat?
It o isn't this the wonderfulthing about just doing a
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conversation because it'sopening up new pathways of our
conversation.
So you have gone through a lotof changes.
We would love to understand.
That journey.
If you could take us on thejourney from Foster.
To Kelly and beyond, tell uswhat, what's going on.
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Yeah, so I would love to sharethat story with you.
And I actually just wrote apoetic essay on this because,
um, and it, I've noticed likethis is coming up a lot in the
last few days, so it clearlythere's something that is
conspiring.
Um, but I talked about.
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When you have one identity andyou carry that identity for so
long, and then you transcendinto this new identity, what
what I expected to happen wasalmost like.
This rebirth where kind of likewhen you burn a house burns down
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and then you build a new houseon top of it, right?
And then that's gone, poof.
Gone.
And then you have this new homeand this new life.
Well, it doesn't quite work thatway because what happens in that
process?
And what we don't realize iseven though you might have
transcended into this newidentity, the old identity still
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exists within you, right?
And that part of you served apurpose and still wants a voice
and this new part of your life.
And so by shutting that out.
It's not allowing you the fullpotential of growth and
evolution that we're here andmeant to do.
And so by befriending that partof myself and thanking it for
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helping me to become the personI am today, it allowed me to
kind of take those twoidentities and put them together
into one, which I'm so gratefulfor, to now be Elizabeth Kelly.
A slash foster slash effort, um,because all three of those
people are me and who I amtoday, they represent parts of
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me that help me be and standwhere I am, if that helps.
And I'd love to share what Iwrote.
Yes.
If you're please.
Oh, I'd love that.
Please do.
Okay, so I'm in the middle ofwriting a book.
Of course you are.
And this, this, um, this poeticessay is called Beautifully
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Broken Oh.
And it says, I'm learning tobefriend the parts of myself I
once rushed to erase.
The versions I abandoned out ofshame, out of guilt, out of fear
that they made me feel unworthy.
Some people cleanse, some peopleare reborn.
I got divorced, I got sober, andI moved 10 hours away.
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Life has its own way of doingthe cleansing, but now I know
this.
I have to love every version ofme.
Elizabeth Ann, er, ElizabethFoster, Elizabeth Kelly.
Each name holds a story.
Each version holds a truth, andnone of them are mistakes.
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They all played a part in mybecoming.
I would be, I wouldn't be herewithout them.
They carried me through.
They protected me.
They did the best they couldwith what they knew.
So when old feelings rise, whenpast versions sneak in through
the back door of memory, I don'tshame them anymore.
I listen, I remember, and I holdspace because healing isn't
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about burying the past.
It's about integrating it,owning it, thanking it.
No one likes to look in themirror and see the versions of
themselves they wish they couldforget.
But those are often the partsstill waiting to be seen, still
waiting to be loved.
Shame keeps us stuck.
Silence keeps us locked down.
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So instead, I'm choosing tohonor my past selves, to give
them a voice, to give them aname, to show them you can be
broken and still beautiful.
You can be messy and stillworthy, and you can be
unfinished and still belong.
This is how we become wholeagain.
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Liz.
Oh, so much depth and wisdom.
Yeah.
I'm getting teary.
Just give me a minute.
Those who are not on the visual,um, just wiping my tears.
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Okay.
We're good.
We're gonna move on, you know.
As I'm listening to what you'resaying, part of me is
absolutely, the, the word isn'tastounded.
I, I can't come up with a wordright now.
It might come through me, butright now it's stuck, but so
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incredibly honored to be in thisspace with you, to allow that to
be shared in a way that.
People who are listening, itwill be touching to them because
they will see themselves somehowmirrored through those words,
even though we all have our ownjourneys.
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That's right.
And And I absolutely love howyou started at the very
beginning, sharing this was myjourney.
Other people do have this, this,because we all have our own
journey.
That's right.
And the beautiful piece aboutwhat you're sharing is that.
We are who we are.
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All of the fragments have madeus complete.
It's just how we vision thatcompleteness.
And the more we fight it, thebigger it rises in terms of the
negative, the more we welcome itin, the more it becomes our
wholeness.
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Right, right.
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
That that was good.
So incredible.
You've had such a road and I dobelieve in my heart of hearts
and soul of souls, people hearme say this all the time because
it is my belief that everythingyou have experienced has
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happened for the reason thatonly you can understand.
That's right.
And make sense of, right.
Yeah.
I that I do very much so.
So how does someone hearing thatbeautiful writing as they're
sitting there in theirstuckness, going, okay, look at
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what she's, how, how do I, I am,I'm a mess.
I'm an, I'm an outright mess.
What do I do with this?
Words of wisdom to help ouraudience.
Start a process, a journeyuncovering whatever that needs
to look like for them.
Sure.
And I mean, I, I think a littlebackstory to that Yeah.
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Is that, you know, I don't, Idon't look at myself any
different than a lot of women inthe sense that I think we spend,
you know, the first half of ourlives building and hustling and
trying to get to this placewhere we can say, okay, I did it
right.
And then we get there and we'relike, oh, but did I even want
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any of this?
Or was I just doing this basedon beliefs and old conditioning
and what I was told to do?
Who am I underneath all this?
Right?
And some people, some people arebrave enough to ask themselves
that question, but a lot of, alot of people are not, right?
Mm-hmm.
'cause when we ask thatquestion.
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We're forcing ourselves toanswer it.
And when we answer it, ooh, nowwe're opening ourselves up to a
whole new thing.
Right, right.
And that's scary, scary, scarystuff.
So one of the first things Ialways suggest is.
To sit and ask yourself thatquestion because I think we get
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so lost in the day to day.
Right?
Just go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
And sometimes intentionally andsometimes not, but you're
regardless.
We're doing all the things rightfor distraction because when we
stop, ooh, all of the littlerascals start running through
our head, and then it's like, ohboy, here we go.
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Right?
Mm-hmm.
So I say, just slow down for aminute.
I want you to just really thinkunderneath everything that
you're holding right now, andthat that could look very
differently for a lot of people.
Yeah.
But whatever it looks like, whatis underneath all of that, like
if you sit with yourself andreally ask yourself, honestly,
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who am I and what do I want?
Who am I and what do I want?
Two big questions.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
For some they may know and justthink, Ooh, that's way outta
reach.
And for some they might not havea clue at all.
They might be so dista, youknow, detached from themselves
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that they don't even know whatthat really means.
Right, right.
So that's where you gotta beginis just kind of digging a little
deeper to into yourself toreally understand what that
looks like, what that means foryourself, and when you do
understand, okay, well now wehave something to work with.
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Right?
So now it's okay.
I've been married for 20 years.
I've been drinking so I don'thave to deal with everything
that I, all those big emotionsmm-hmm.
And all the scary things that Idon't wanna face.
And I've been doing all thethings that look great on paper,
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but really are not bringing meany joy or meaning.
Right.
Right.
So now what do I do?
Right.
Well, when you understand whatit is you want.
From where you are.
Okay, so now we have somethingright?
Here's where I'm at, here'swhere I wanna be right now.
Let's close the gap.
How do we get there?
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And what we have to understandis the first thing we need in
order to even make any forwardmovement is belief in ourself.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Yeah.
Believe that we have the abilityto create change for ourself
that we're worth.
That change because if for anyreason we don't, then we won't.
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Right?
Yep.
Once we do, okay, now, rightnow, once we start building some
of that self-worth andconfidence.
Now we have something to workwith and now we have a vision.
So now it's putting those littlepractices in place that help us
movement, right?
So now we can say, Hey, what canI do?
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What's one small thing?
And I call'em micro habits.
What's small?
One small thing I can do todaythat will give me forward
movement?
And you just keep building uponthat.
I mean.
I didn't start here, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And I hope I'm nowhere nearfinish, but I didn't start here.
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Right?
I took one courageous stepforward to say, this is all I
said, this is not what I want.
This is not what I want anymore.
Right?
Yeah.
That one, that one sentence.
Transcended into a completelydifferent identity in life.
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And so it is possible if, and I,I know this is kind of cliche,
but if I do it, anybody can doit.
Right?
We all have the power in us todo it.
It really just stems from,again, the belief we carry and
then the ability to really getcurious and ask ourselves those
two hard questions.
Yeah.
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Do you find that the clientsthat you work with every journey
timeline because like yousuggested, well, I hope I'm not
done.
I totally, totally believe that.
Like my, when my growth stops ismy last breath.
That's how I perceive livinglife, um, is everybody's
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journey.
Timeline as it were to helpchange the course and build
their new identity.
As you suggested, it doesn'tmean you lose your other, it, it
folds into the new to help youcontinue to grow into all that
you can be.
Um, is it different foreveryone?
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Um, that's a really goodquestion.
I am not sure I have the.
True answer to that, I guessit's sure.
But in, yeah, I guess I'll giveyou what I believe to be true.
Perfect.
Yep.
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I don't think everyone carriesthe same, the, the same story.
Yeah.
But I do believe that everybody.
Has the power within them totranscend that story into a
different ending.
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How we get where we are looks alittle different for everybody,
but I think there's a lot ofdifferent components to that.
So that's where I'm, I'm, I'mstaggering because it's a hubby
It's a loaded question.
Yeah.
Because here's the thing, youknow, the women I meet with.
There's a lot of things that aredifferent, but there's also a
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lot of things that are same, andthe commonality is, I'm gonna be
honest, what, what most peoplecome to me and want and need is
one space, me to hold space forthem.
Mm-hmm.
Behind that is they wantpermission.
Yeah.
They want permission.
They want permission.
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They want someone to say it'sokay.
It's okay to feel how you feel.
It's okay to want what you want.
Yeah.
I mean, I've had someone, I'vehad a client come to me every
single time she wants to dosomething and say, is this okay?
Do you think this is wrong?
Do you think this is bad?
Do you think I sh and I'm like,what do you think?
Because the answer isn't reallya right or wrong, it's just a
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right or wrong for you.
Right.
Right.
So, you know, that's where I getstuck with that because it is,
you know, there, it could swingboth ways for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and I appreciate the honestand intuitive answer you just
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shared because there is, we arecomplex human beings.
But the complexities run far anddeep.
We talk about it, oh, well, ifyou do this and you do that,
there is no scripted answer forthis work.
The answer lies within you andthe capacity for you to be able
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to eventually hold space foryourself.
Yeah, to be true to your heart,to your feelings, to your
emotions.
To let them be as they need tobe so that you feel safe,
honored, and loved in your ownself-worth is the ultimate goal.
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Right?
For sure.
And I think so many of us lookoutside of ourselves for all of
those things.
Right.
To be loved, to be validated,right.
To to find our worth.
Yeah.
The reality is no one can giveyou that.
Yeah.
That is something you have togive yourself.
And I think that's one of thebigger challenges across society
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today is we're all hustling andlooking for things outside of
ourselves when if we could justslow down and stop, we'd find
everything we need right withinus and, and that's a broken
record that's playedconsistently worldwide.
We hear it all the time.
What.
Happens.
I feel, and I could be totallywrong, but this has been my
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experience with the women I workwith and the people that I
support, is that that noiseoutside has been not only loud,
but consistent through timesince the beginning of
toddlerhood, right?
Because, and so the trainingground is wide and deep and
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consistent for years.
The beautiful thing is peoplelike yourself, like myself, like
those in the world who aremaking a difference, to show
that we have the power within tomake changes, and we don't need
that permission beyond, we arestarting to uncover the truth of
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our, our heart and our soul.
And the further the world goesinto disarray, it's almost like
the polar opposite.
The more we are rising.
Not in combat or conflict, butin communion, in connection to
change the wave.
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And I love your mission.
You know, tell us about whatyour overall mission is so that
people can really resonate withthis isn't just a flash in the
pan with Liz today.
Yes.
She has a big mission andvision.
So would you love to share thatwith us?
'cause we'd love to hear it.
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Yeah, I would love that.
Thank you for asking.
You know, I think, um, I'mconstantly redefining that.
Mm-hmm.
If I'm being honest.
Yeah.
The more I walk in this path andin this journey, um, there's
more parts of myself I uncoverand I don't try to limit myself
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in any direction, but I juststay open to what is kind of
coming before me and thedifferent opportunities, you
know.
Um, I've always, and I wasthinking about this the other
day since I was little, I alwayshad this.
I, I don't know how to explainit.
It was just this drive andpassion that I, I was gonna be
somebody I was gonna, I wasgonna, I was going to help
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people that needed help in somecapacity.
And when I went through, youknow, my divorce and I went
through sobriety and I rebuiltmy career and I moved across the
country and all the things,right.
Um.
I knew that what I wanted mostwas to take my experiences and
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pay it forward, right?
Because I don't believe weexperience anything without a
purpose for it.
I think if we can, it's not whathappens to us, it's what we do
with what happens to us.
And I think if we can take thatpain and turn it into a purpose
and give it a voice and helpothers who are in those same
situations, um.
I think that's really the wholemeaning of life, right?
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Mm-hmm.
Is building that connectioncommunity and giving back.
And so this work that I've beenon and this path I've been on
for the last three years hascontinued to develop and change
and morph into something verybeautiful.
But each, you know, season itlooks a little different.
So I've gone through and done alot of the coaching and continue
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to mm-hmm.
Um, I also found that myself ina space a year ago, a little
over a year ago, where, youknow, private pay wasn't always
easy for everyone, especially inthe economy we're in.
And so I said, okay, what can Ido to reach more people?
Right?
Because I don't wanna limit thepeople I can help based on, you
know, financial reasons.
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I wanna help anyone that wantshelp, right.
And so I said, well, no problem.
I can go back and get my MARmaster's in clinical therapy and
then I can accept insurance andhelp everybody that wants help
that has insurance and can'tafford private pay.
Mm-hmm.
And so that's what I did.
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And I've always had this can-doattitude, right?
Like there's nothing I can't do.
I limit, I, you know, the onlylimit is the limit I put on
myself.
Right?
Yeah.
So I did, and I have been, I'mover a year into my program and
it's a two and a half yearprogram.
So I am been going through, andI'll tell you, I am learning so
much, not only about the work,but about myself through this
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process.
It's been so rewarding and, and,um, alongside that came this
opportunity to write.
And do more writing and to putthis book together.
And so I've been working on thatin addition to doing some
community work in the community,um, with, um, the homeless
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mm-hmm.
And trafficking victims.
Um, wow.
A lot around behavioral health,mental health.
Yeah.
Substance abuse and, whew.
If that doesn't keep you humbleand make you realize how
fortunate we really are, itreally puts things into
perspective, let me tell you.
I bet.
And sometimes I look back andI'm like, how did I get here?
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Yeah.
Right.
Um.
You know, I went from, you know,you know, one, one complete per
to a completely different, but Isaid to myself, you know what?
This is what God intended for meall along.
This is where I was supposed tobe in the work I was supposed to
be doing, and the person that Itruly am.
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And so I'm grateful for each andevery opportunity that's in my
path right now because it'sallowing me.
To just have a bigger reach andit's allowing me to really just
keep uncovering this, this,yeah, full life that I'm so
blessed to experience and share.
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Amazing.
See, I didn't know all of that.
All these doors of impact thatare wide open and you are just
walking through because yourheart and soul knows.
How to do the listening.
Yeah.
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What a beautiful gift that youhave unwrapped and continue to
expand.
So honored to spend this timeand space with you.
Um, I do have another question.
Okay.
Please, about healingrelationship with yourself
because we're talking, you do alot of work around self-love.
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I'm sure all of that is at the.
Foundational piece of everythingthat you do every day for you
and for those around you.
Um, how can healing yourrelationship with yourself
transform like all the areas inyour life from relationship to
purpose and beyond?
How is that so important?
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Everything starts with you.
Hmm.
Right.
You're the foundation foreverything.
And you know, self-love is a bitof a cliche, right?
Mm-hmm.
People are like, well, what doesthat even mean?
Yeah.
Um, but what it means is it'sjust getting to know yourself.
Mm-hmm.
It really starts with justgetting to know who you are,
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what you want, but then alsohonoring that.
Thank you.
But we have to honor.
Empower ourselves to be okay inour own skin with who we are.
You know?
And I believe we all havesuperpowers, right?
We all have gifts that we'rehere to give and share, but it's
really understanding what thatall means because how can we
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love someone else?
If we don't even love ourselves,right?
So as far as relationships go,you have to really have a good
understanding and goodself-awareness for who you are
as an individual and really loveand appreciate that person
before you can give it away andshare it with someone else.
And, um, you know, in myopinion, that's why a lot of
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relationships don't work outbecause we look to the other
person, right?
To fill those parts of ourselvesversus doing it for ourself.
A partner was never meant to bethe Jerry Maguire.
You completely.
I'm sorry.
The, the, the point of apartnership is really to add
value and to share, you know, belike, young Pueblo says two
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rivers flowing beside eachother, right.
Not being one river together.
Mm-hmm.
And so I just feel that there issuch an important component when
it comes to relationships andreally having that element of
self-love.
And as far as everything elsegoes, I mean, unless you can
speak honestly about.
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What it is you really want.
Mm-hmm.
You're gonna accept everythingyou get out in the world, right?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
If you don't know what yourvalues and beliefs are, and
truly appreciate them for whatthey are, and so having that
awareness allows you to step upinto the world from a place of
authenticity.
Which allows everything to alignand feel better, which means you
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show up better, which meanseverything as a result is
better.
Right?
Right.
When we go out as a half aperson and we take everything we
get, well then what are we?
Who are we even?
We're a result of everyone else,not a result of ourselves.
And the idea is to pour out, notpour in.
Right?
Right.
Like we be able to stand onsolid footing and pour out who
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we are to share that with theworld versus just taking
everything we can get.
So, um.
I think there's some, still somework to do in that regard.
Um, but I do think that there'sso many of these, um, there's so
many books and shows andpodcasts such as this out there
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that are really helping todeliver that message.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, I think it ishelping.
Yeah.
Um, I just look forward to thepoint when we can all just stand
a little taller.
Yeah.
And prouder of who we are.
Exactly.
And not in competition.
Because once, right.
Because once we understand whowe really are, all of the, I
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I've experienced all of theenergy that we've taken in over
the years about who we think weare, it literally dissipates.
We sh life just comesdifferently.
Life feels different.
Yes.
Yes.
Things happen that we couldnever explain otherwise.
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And I don't know if you findthis, but I, I hear this all the
time.
It's slowly shifting, but soslow.
But that's okay.
Good things take time.
Oh, you do.
And you know, as long as it'smoving forward and not staying
or going back, then I'm, I'mokay with that.
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I think we just, I think we,living in a society where we can
really stay true to, you know,meaning and purpose and
connection and the things thatreally resonate is wholeness.
Versus chasing things that wecan't take with us, so to speak,
I think really can exemplify therepresentation of self and
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really transcend and change theworld as a whole one step at a
time.
Yeah, and and I totally agreeand believe that we are starting
to see that happening inripples, and it's really about a
ripple effect.
Liz, keep doing what you'redoing.
Keep being exploring andunderstanding you because the
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world is benefiting hugely withyour presence, your energy, your
gifts, and your talent.
So thank you so much.
Is there anything you would loveto share with our audience
before we wrap up ourconversation today that you
wanna leave a little goldennugget that you haven't already
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shared?
I, I think one of the things Ilove to tell all of my ladies
is, um, don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid to be who youare.
Speak your truth.
Um.
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Take the big leap, right?
Uh, so many of us are afraid offailure.
And failure is how we learn andgrow.
And through some of the darkestmoments and those cracks is
where the light shines in, andwe get to really find our true
path.
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So don't fear that.
Embrace it.
Make friends with it.
Lean into it because there'ssuch an important, uh.
Such an important point andplace for all of you in this
world, and your gifts and yoursuperpowers, they're needed.
They are so needed.
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So please, today, do one smallthing for yourself to go out and
shine a little brighter.
The world needs you.
Mm-hmm.
And you need you.
And you need you.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Liz, thank you so much for beingwith us today and sharing
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everything that you've sharedtoday.
I can't wait.
Let us know when the book's out.
I will, I definitely please,yes.
I need a copy signed.
If you can.
I'd be happy to have a signedcopy.
Oh, you'll get a signed copy.
No doubt.
And thank you for the work youdo.
I mean, it's such important workand I just, I'm so grateful that
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our paths crossed and that we'vestayed in touch over the years.
Thank you so much for everythingyou do.
It's important work.
Thank you.
We are two peas in a pod as itworked.
Yes, we're.
If you have resonated withanything in our conversation
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give reviews.
We are so honored to have youhere with us in this, in this
space.
What activated in you?
Claim your Sovereignty MeAcademy expands you.
Hello, and welcome to today'sepisode of Thrive after 45.
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I'm Denise Drink, heartwhisperer, midlife, mirror and
mentor.
Every week I am absolutelyhonored to share energy and
space with inspiring guestswhose stories reflect so many
possibilities of thriving beyond45.
Together we'll uncover thewhispers of the heart, the power
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of midlife transformation, andthe wisdom that fuels expansion.
Yeah.
What if the pain that oncecracked you open was absolutely
never meant to destroy you, butto awaken you to the woman you
were always meant to be.
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Such an honor and a privilege towelcome and introduce Elizabeth.
Foster to Thrive after Founderof For the Love of Self-Coaching
and host of the Self-Love Loungepodcast.
Elizabeth is a transformativeself-love and mindset coach.
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She's on a mission to igniteinner transformation, her own
story.
Through the messy middle ofdivorce, sobriety and rebuilding
her life from the inside outbecame the foundation of her
work and her contribution torattled awake volume seven.
A passionate advocate forself-worth and empowerment.
(01:31):
Elizabeth has guided over 150women to silence their inner
critics, reclaim their voice,and build lives rooted in love,
authenticity, and peace.
As a contributor, contributor toher Nation magazine, she
continues to amplify a movementthat reminds women everywhere.
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When you know your worth, youshift the world, and today she's
standing as living proof thathealing is how you healing
yourself.
Is how you begin to heal theworld.
Welcome to our show today, Liz.
Thank you, Denise.
I'm so excited to be here withyou today.
(02:12):
Thank you for having me.
You know, the last time weconnected and met, I wasn't able
to share the depth and breadthof what I just shared today, and
it wasn't that long ago that weconnected right.
Yeah, it was just about a yearago.
Yeah.
Right.
And I, and I'm reading it andI'm looking at everything that
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you, because audience, what I dois I send a few questions just
to help me create anintroduction for the fabulous
guests that I have.
And I'm reading the answers tothe questions and I'm like,
well, she didn't use to do that.
And she did, wait a minute, howlong ago did we connect?
Fabulous.
Isn't it incredible what happenswhen we start to look after
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ourselves from the inside out?
How things just start growingand expanding beyond our
imaginations Can.
Reveal there is.
It sure is.
And actually one of the thingsthat has changed, which clearly
I haven't updated my name isit's now Elizabeth Kelly, no
longer Elizabeth Foster.
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Um, and so I.
In the last year have justreally kind of ballooned and
expanded in a, in a bunch ofdifferent ways, which I'd love
to share with you when it makessense.
But, you know, certainly thisjourney that I've been on, there
was no, there was no roadmap.
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It was.
You know, feeling it out as Iwent.
And man, it's amazing how manydoors open and how much changes
when you just allow things tocome to you versus you pushing
things into a certain direction.
So again, so happy to be here.
I love the work you do, andthank you.
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Well, thank you for clarifyingthe name, because as I was
reading, I was like, uhoh, itsays Foster better go with.
Yeah, I know.
I was like, oh man.
I just noticed too that I didn'tchange it on Zoom either, so my
apologies with, oh, you knowwhat?
It o isn't this the wonderfulthing about just doing a
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conversation because it'sopening up new pathways of our
conversation.
So you have gone through a lotof changes.
We would love to understand.
That journey.
If you could take us on thejourney from Foster.
To Kelly and beyond, tell uswhat, what's going on.
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Yeah, so I would love to sharethat story with you.
And I actually just wrote apoetic essay on this because,
um, and it, I've noticed likethis is coming up a lot in the
last few days, so it clearlythere's something that is
conspiring.
Um, but I talked about.
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When you have one identity andyou carry that identity for so
long, and then you transcendinto this new identity, what
what I expected to happen wasalmost like.
This rebirth where kind of likewhen you burn a house burns down
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and then you build a new houseon top of it, right?
And then that's gone, poof.
Gone.
And then you have this new homeand this new life.
Well, it doesn't quite work thatway because what happens in that
process?
And what we don't realize iseven though you might have
transcended into this newidentity, the old identity still
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exists within you, right?
And that part of you served apurpose and still wants a voice
and this new part of your life.
And so by shutting that out.
It's not allowing you the fullpotential of growth and
evolution that we're here andmeant to do.
And so by befriending that partof myself and thanking it for
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helping me to become the personI am today, it allowed me to
kind of take those twoidentities and put them together
into one, which I'm so gratefulfor, to now be Elizabeth Kelly.
A slash foster slash effort, um,because all three of those
people are me and who I amtoday, they represent parts of
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me that help me be and standwhere I am, if that helps.
And I'd love to share what Iwrote.
Yes.
If you're please.
Oh, I'd love that.
Please do.
Okay, so I'm in the middle ofwriting a book.
Of course you are.
And this, this, um, this poeticessay is called Beautifully
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Broken Oh.
And it says, I'm learning tobefriend the parts of myself I
once rushed to erase.
The versions I abandoned out ofshame, out of guilt, out of fear
that they made me feel unworthy.
Some people cleanse, some peopleare reborn.
I got divorced, I got sober, andI moved 10 hours away.
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Life has its own way of doingthe cleansing, but now I know
this.
I have to love every version ofme.
Elizabeth Ann, er, ElizabethFoster, Elizabeth Kelly.
Each name holds a story.
Each version holds a truth, andnone of them are mistakes.
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They all played a part in mybecoming.
I would be, I wouldn't be herewithout them.
They carried me through.
They protected me.
They did the best they couldwith what they knew.
So when old feelings rise, whenpast versions sneak in through
the back door of memory, I don'tshame them anymore.
I listen, I remember, and I holdspace because healing isn't
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about burying the past.
It's about integrating it,owning it, thanking it.
No one likes to look in themirror and see the versions of
themselves they wish they couldforget.
But those are often the partsstill waiting to be seen, still
waiting to be loved.
Shame keeps us stuck.
Silence keeps us locked down.
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So instead, I'm choosing tohonor my past selves, to give
them a voice, to give them aname, to show them you can be
broken and still beautiful.
You can be messy and stillworthy, and you can be
unfinished and still belong.
This is how we become wholeagain.
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Liz.
Oh, so much depth and wisdom.
Yeah.
I'm getting teary.
Just give me a minute.
Those who are not on the visual,um, just wiping my tears.
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Okay.
We're good.
We're gonna move on, you know.
As I'm listening to what you'resaying, part of me is
absolutely, the, the word isn'tastounded.
I, I can't come up with a wordright now.
It might come through me, butright now it's stuck, but so
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incredibly honored to be in thisspace with you, to allow that to
be shared in a way that.
People who are listening, itwill be touching to them because
they will see themselves somehowmirrored through those words,
even though we all have our ownjourneys.
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That's right.
And And I absolutely love howyou started at the very
beginning, sharing this was myjourney.
Other people do have this, this,because we all have our own
journey.
That's right.
And the beautiful piece aboutwhat you're sharing is that.
We are who we are.
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All of the fragments have madeus complete.
It's just how we vision thatcompleteness.
And the more we fight it, thebigger it rises in terms of the
negative, the more we welcome itin, the more it becomes our
wholeness.
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Right, right.
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
That that was good.
So incredible.
You've had such a road and I dobelieve in my heart of hearts
and soul of souls, people hearme say this all the time because
it is my belief that everythingyou have experienced has
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happened for the reason thatonly you can understand.
That's right.
And make sense of, right.
Yeah.
I that I do very much so.
So how does someone hearing thatbeautiful writing as they're
sitting there in theirstuckness, going, okay, look at
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what she's, how, how do I, I am,I'm a mess.
I'm an, I'm an outright mess.
What do I do with this?
Words of wisdom to help ouraudience.
Start a process, a journeyuncovering whatever that needs
to look like for them.
Sure.
And I mean, I, I think a littlebackstory to that Yeah.
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Is that, you know, I don't, Idon't look at myself any
different than a lot of women inthe sense that I think we spend,
you know, the first half of ourlives building and hustling and
trying to get to this placewhere we can say, okay, I did it
right.
And then we get there and we'relike, oh, but did I even want
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any of this?
Or was I just doing this basedon beliefs and old conditioning
and what I was told to do?
Who am I underneath all this?
Right?
And some people, some people arebrave enough to ask themselves
that question, but a lot of, alot of people are not, right?
Mm-hmm.
'cause when we ask thatquestion.
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We're forcing ourselves toanswer it.
And when we answer it, ooh, nowwe're opening ourselves up to a
whole new thing.
Right, right.
And that's scary, scary, scarystuff.
So one of the first things Ialways suggest is.
To sit and ask yourself thatquestion because I think we get
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so lost in the day to day.
Right?
Just go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
And sometimes intentionally andsometimes not, but you're
regardless.
We're doing all the things rightfor distraction because when we
stop, ooh, all of the littlerascals start running through
our head, and then it's like, ohboy, here we go.
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Right?
Mm-hmm.
So I say, just slow down for aminute.
I want you to just really thinkunderneath everything that
you're holding right now, andthat that could look very
differently for a lot of people.
Yeah.
But whatever it looks like, whatis underneath all of that, like
if you sit with yourself andreally ask yourself, honestly,
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who am I and what do I want?
Who am I and what do I want?
Two big questions.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
For some they may know and justthink, Ooh, that's way outta
reach.
And for some they might not havea clue at all.
They might be so dista, youknow, detached from themselves
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that they don't even know whatthat really means.
Right, right.
So that's where you gotta beginis just kind of digging a little
deeper to into yourself toreally understand what that
looks like, what that means foryourself, and when you do
understand, okay, well now wehave something to work with.
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Right?
So now it's okay.
I've been married for 20 years.
I've been drinking so I don'thave to deal with everything
that I, all those big emotionsmm-hmm.
And all the scary things that Idon't wanna face.
And I've been doing all thethings that look great on paper,
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but really are not bringing meany joy or meaning.
Right.
Right.
So now what do I do?
Right.
Well, when you understand whatit is you want.
From where you are.
Okay, so now we have somethingright?
Here's where I'm at, here'swhere I wanna be right now.
Let's close the gap.
How do we get there?
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And what we have to understandis the first thing we need in
order to even make any forwardmovement is belief in ourself.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Yeah.
Believe that we have the abilityto create change for ourself
that we're worth.
That change because if for anyreason we don't, then we won't.
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Right?
Yep.
Once we do, okay, now, rightnow, once we start building some
of that self-worth andconfidence.
Now we have something to workwith and now we have a vision.
So now it's putting those littlepractices in place that help us
movement, right?
So now we can say, Hey, what canI do?
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What's one small thing?
And I call'em micro habits.
What's small?
One small thing I can do todaythat will give me forward
movement?
And you just keep building uponthat.
I mean.
I didn't start here, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And I hope I'm nowhere nearfinish, but I didn't start here.
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Right?
I took one courageous stepforward to say, this is all I
said, this is not what I want.
This is not what I want anymore.
Right?
Yeah.
That one, that one sentence.
Transcended into a completelydifferent identity in life.
(16:37):
And so it is possible if, and I,I know this is kind of cliche,
but if I do it, anybody can doit.
Right?
We all have the power in us todo it.
It really just stems from,again, the belief we carry and
then the ability to really getcurious and ask ourselves those
two hard questions.
Yeah.
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Do you find that the clientsthat you work with every journey
timeline because like yousuggested, well, I hope I'm not
done.
I totally, totally believe that.
Like my, when my growth stops ismy last breath.
That's how I perceive livinglife, um, is everybody's
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journey.
Timeline as it were to helpchange the course and build
their new identity.
As you suggested, it doesn'tmean you lose your other, it, it
folds into the new to help youcontinue to grow into all that
you can be.
Um, is it different foreveryone?
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Um, that's a really goodquestion.
I am not sure I have the.
True answer to that, I guessit's sure.
But in, yeah, I guess I'll giveyou what I believe to be true.
Perfect.
Yep.
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I don't think everyone carriesthe same, the, the same story.
Yeah.
But I do believe that everybody.
Has the power within them totranscend that story into a
different ending.
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How we get where we are looks alittle different for everybody,
but I think there's a lot ofdifferent components to that.
So that's where I'm, I'm, I'mstaggering because it's a hubby
It's a loaded question.
Yeah.
Because here's the thing, youknow, the women I meet with.
There's a lot of things that aredifferent, but there's also a
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lot of things that are same, andthe commonality is, I'm gonna be
honest, what, what most peoplecome to me and want and need is
one space, me to hold space forthem.
Mm-hmm.
Behind that is they wantpermission.
Yeah.
They want permission.
They want permission.
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They want someone to say it'sokay.
It's okay to feel how you feel.
It's okay to want what you want.
Yeah.
I mean, I've had someone, I'vehad a client come to me every
single time she wants to dosomething and say, is this okay?
Do you think this is wrong?
Do you think this is bad?
Do you think I sh and I'm like,what do you think?
Because the answer isn't reallya right or wrong, it's just a
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right or wrong for you.
Right.
Right.
So, you know, that's where I getstuck with that because it is,
you know, there, it could swingboth ways for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, and I appreciate the honestand intuitive answer you just
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shared because there is, we arecomplex human beings.
But the complexities run far anddeep.
We talk about it, oh, well, ifyou do this and you do that,
there is no scripted answer forthis work.
The answer lies within you andthe capacity for you to be able
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to eventually hold space foryourself.
Yeah, to be true to your heart,to your feelings, to your
emotions.
To let them be as they need tobe so that you feel safe,
honored, and loved in your ownself-worth is the ultimate goal.
(20:44):
Right?
For sure.
And I think so many of us lookoutside of ourselves for all of
those things.
Right.
To be loved, to be validated,right.
To to find our worth.
Yeah.
The reality is no one can giveyou that.
Yeah.
That is something you have togive yourself.
And I think that's one of thebigger challenges across society
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today is we're all hustling andlooking for things outside of
ourselves when if we could justslow down and stop, we'd find
everything we need right withinus and, and that's a broken
record that's playedconsistently worldwide.
We hear it all the time.
What.
Happens.
I feel, and I could be totallywrong, but this has been my
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experience with the women I workwith and the people that I
support, is that that noiseoutside has been not only loud,
but consistent through timesince the beginning of
toddlerhood, right?
Because, and so the trainingground is wide and deep and
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consistent for years.
The beautiful thing is peoplelike yourself, like myself, like
those in the world who aremaking a difference, to show
that we have the power within tomake changes, and we don't need
that permission beyond, we arestarting to uncover the truth of
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our, our heart and our soul.
And the further the world goesinto disarray, it's almost like
the polar opposite.
The more we are rising.
Not in combat or conflict, butin communion, in connection to
change the wave.
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And I love your mission.
You know, tell us about whatyour overall mission is so that
people can really resonate withthis isn't just a flash in the
pan with Liz today.
Yes.
She has a big mission andvision.
So would you love to share thatwith us?
'cause we'd love to hear it.
(22:55):
Yeah, I would love that.
Thank you for asking.
You know, I think, um, I'mconstantly redefining that.
Mm-hmm.
If I'm being honest.
Yeah.
The more I walk in this path andin this journey, um, there's
more parts of myself I uncoverand I don't try to limit myself
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in any direction, but I juststay open to what is kind of
coming before me and thedifferent opportunities, you
know.
Um, I've always, and I wasthinking about this the other
day since I was little, I alwayshad this.
I, I don't know how to explainit.
It was just this drive andpassion that I, I was gonna be
somebody I was gonna, I wasgonna, I was going to help
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people that needed help in somecapacity.
And when I went through, youknow, my divorce and I went
through sobriety and I rebuiltmy career and I moved across the
country and all the things,right.
Um.
I knew that what I wanted mostwas to take my experiences and
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pay it forward, right?
Because I don't believe weexperience anything without a
purpose for it.
I think if we can, it's not whathappens to us, it's what we do
with what happens to us.
And I think if we can take thatpain and turn it into a purpose
and give it a voice and helpothers who are in those same
situations, um.
I think that's really the wholemeaning of life, right?
(24:26):
Mm-hmm.
Is building that connectioncommunity and giving back.
And so this work that I've beenon and this path I've been on
for the last three years hascontinued to develop and change
and morph into something verybeautiful.
But each, you know, season itlooks a little different.
So I've gone through and done alot of the coaching and continue
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to mm-hmm.
Um, I also found that myself ina space a year ago, a little
over a year ago, where, youknow, private pay wasn't always
easy for everyone, especially inthe economy we're in.
And so I said, okay, what can Ido to reach more people?
Right?
Because I don't wanna limit thepeople I can help based on, you
know, financial reasons.
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I wanna help anyone that wantshelp, right.
And so I said, well, no problem.
I can go back and get my MARmaster's in clinical therapy and
then I can accept insurance andhelp everybody that wants help
that has insurance and can'tafford private pay.
Mm-hmm.
And so that's what I did.
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And I've always had this can-doattitude, right?
Like there's nothing I can't do.
I limit, I, you know, the onlylimit is the limit I put on
myself.
Right?
Yeah.
So I did, and I have been, I'mover a year into my program and
it's a two and a half yearprogram.
So I am been going through, andI'll tell you, I am learning so
much, not only about the work,but about myself through this
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process.
It's been so rewarding and, and,um, alongside that came this
opportunity to write.
And do more writing and to putthis book together.
And so I've been working on thatin addition to doing some
community work in the community,um, with, um, the homeless
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mm-hmm.
And trafficking victims.
Um, wow.
A lot around behavioral health,mental health.
Yeah.
Substance abuse and, whew.
If that doesn't keep you humbleand make you realize how
fortunate we really are, itreally puts things into
perspective, let me tell you.
I bet.
And sometimes I look back andI'm like, how did I get here?
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Yeah.
Right.
Um.
You know, I went from, you know,you know, one, one complete per
to a completely different, but Isaid to myself, you know what?
This is what God intended for meall along.
This is where I was supposed tobe in the work I was supposed to
be doing, and the person that Itruly am.
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And so I'm grateful for each andevery opportunity that's in my
path right now because it'sallowing me.
To just have a bigger reach andit's allowing me to really just
keep uncovering this, this,yeah, full life that I'm so
blessed to experience and share.
(27:21):
Amazing.
See, I didn't know all of that.
All these doors of impact thatare wide open and you are just
walking through because yourheart and soul knows.
How to do the listening.
Yeah.
(27:41):
What a beautiful gift that youhave unwrapped and continue to
expand.
So honored to spend this timeand space with you.
Um, I do have another question.
Okay.
Please, about healingrelationship with yourself
because we're talking, you do alot of work around self-love.
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I'm sure all of that is at the.
Foundational piece of everythingthat you do every day for you
and for those around you.
Um, how can healing yourrelationship with yourself
transform like all the areas inyour life from relationship to
purpose and beyond?
How is that so important?
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Everything starts with you.
Hmm.
Right.
You're the foundation foreverything.
And you know, self-love is a bitof a cliche, right?
Mm-hmm.
People are like, well, what doesthat even mean?
Yeah.
Um, but what it means is it'sjust getting to know yourself.
Mm-hmm.
It really starts with justgetting to know who you are,
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what you want, but then alsohonoring that.
Thank you.
But we have to honor.
Empower ourselves to be okay inour own skin with who we are.
You know?
And I believe we all havesuperpowers, right?
We all have gifts that we'rehere to give and share, but it's
really understanding what thatall means because how can we
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love someone else?
If we don't even love ourselves,right?
So as far as relationships go,you have to really have a good
understanding and goodself-awareness for who you are
as an individual and really loveand appreciate that person
before you can give it away andshare it with someone else.
And, um, you know, in myopinion, that's why a lot of
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relationships don't work outbecause we look to the other
person, right?
To fill those parts of ourselvesversus doing it for ourself.
A partner was never meant to bethe Jerry Maguire.
You completely.
I'm sorry.
The, the, the point of apartnership is really to add
value and to share, you know, belike, young Pueblo says two
(29:57):
rivers flowing beside eachother, right.
Not being one river together.
Mm-hmm.
And so I just feel that there issuch an important component when
it comes to relationships andreally having that element of
self-love.
And as far as everything elsegoes, I mean, unless you can
speak honestly about.
(30:18):
What it is you really want.
Mm-hmm.
You're gonna accept everythingyou get out in the world, right?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
If you don't know what yourvalues and beliefs are, and
truly appreciate them for whatthey are, and so having that
awareness allows you to step upinto the world from a place of
authenticity.
Which allows everything to alignand feel better, which means you
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show up better, which meanseverything as a result is
better.
Right?
Right.
When we go out as a half aperson and we take everything we
get, well then what are we?
Who are we even?
We're a result of everyone else,not a result of ourselves.
And the idea is to pour out, notpour in.
Right?
Right.
Like we be able to stand onsolid footing and pour out who
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we are to share that with theworld versus just taking
everything we can get.
So, um.
I think there's some, still somework to do in that regard.
Um, but I do think that there'sso many of these, um, there's so
many books and shows andpodcasts such as this out there
(31:23):
that are really helping todeliver that message.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, I think it ishelping.
Yeah.
Um, I just look forward to thepoint when we can all just stand
a little taller.
Yeah.
And prouder of who we are.
Exactly.
And not in competition.
Because once, right.
Because once we understand whowe really are, all of the, I
(31:50):
I've experienced all of theenergy that we've taken in over
the years about who we think weare, it literally dissipates.
We sh life just comesdifferently.
Life feels different.
Yes.
Yes.
Things happen that we couldnever explain otherwise.
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And I don't know if you findthis, but I, I hear this all the
time.
It's slowly shifting, but soslow.
But that's okay.
Good things take time.
Oh, you do.
And you know, as long as it'smoving forward and not staying
or going back, then I'm, I'mokay with that.
(32:36):
I think we just, I think we,living in a society where we can
really stay true to, you know,meaning and purpose and
connection and the things thatreally resonate is wholeness.
Versus chasing things that wecan't take with us, so to speak,
I think really can exemplify therepresentation of self and
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really transcend and change theworld as a whole one step at a
time.
Yeah, and and I totally agreeand believe that we are starting
to see that happening inripples, and it's really about a
ripple effect.
Liz, keep doing what you'redoing.
Keep being exploring andunderstanding you because the
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world is benefiting hugely withyour presence, your energy, your
gifts, and your talent.
So thank you so much.
Is there anything you would loveto share with our audience
before we wrap up ourconversation today that you
wanna leave a little goldennugget that you haven't already
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shared?
I, I think one of the things Ilove to tell all of my ladies
is, um, don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid.
Don't be afraid to be who youare.
Speak your truth.
Um.
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Take the big leap, right?
Uh, so many of us are afraid offailure.
And failure is how we learn andgrow.
And through some of the darkestmoments and those cracks is
where the light shines in, andwe get to really find our true
path.
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So don't fear that.
Embrace it.
Make friends with it.
Lean into it because there'ssuch an important, uh.
Such an important point andplace for all of you in this
world, and your gifts and yoursuperpowers, they're needed.
They are so needed.
(34:44):
So please, today, do one smallthing for yourself to go out and
shine a little brighter.
The world needs you.
Mm-hmm.
And you need you.
And you need you.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Liz, thank you so much for beingwith us today and sharing
(35:05):
everything that you've sharedtoday.
I can't wait.
Let us know when the book's out.
I will, I definitely please,yes.
I need a copy signed.
If you can.
I'd be happy to have a signedcopy.
Oh, you'll get a signed copy.
No doubt.
And thank you for the work youdo.
I mean, it's such important workand I just, I'm so grateful that
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our paths crossed and that we'vestayed in touch over the years.
Thank you so much for everythingyou do.
It's important work.
Thank you.
We are two peas in a pod as itworked.
Yes, we're.
If you have resonated withanything in our conversation
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today, please make sure youshare, you follow you like you
give reviews.
We are so honored to have youhere with us in this, in this
space.
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