April 15, 2025 • 31 mins
In today's episode, I welcome trauma healer Angela Turpin for a powerful conversation about healing childhood wounds and transforming past trauma into purpose. Angela shares about her decade-long healing journey and how becoming a mother accelerated her growth and transformation.
Tune in as we chat through:
• Beginning the healing journey after corporate burnout and remembering suppressed childhood trauma
• The non-linear nature of healing and the importance of journaling as a consistent tool
• Having to "burn down" her business to rebuild it with authenticity and alignment
• Navigating the balance between motherhood ambition without succumbing to guilt
• Learning to trust your intuition and recognize when inner wisdom is speaking
Ready to begin your own healing journey?
Connect with Angela on Instagram @transformwithAngela and check out her free training "Healed to Be Seen," designed to help you heal belonging wounds, sisterhood wounds, and mother wounds so you can create authentic connections and show up fully in your life and business.
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Ebony Fleming (00:00):
Hey, love, I'm Ebony and welcome to Thrive Like
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I'm on a mission to build alife I've always dreamed of but
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So, love, if you're ready tobelieve in what's possible,
let's link arms and thrivetogether.
Hey, loves, and welcome back toanother episode of the Thrive
Like a Mother podcast.
I am so excited for our guesttoday.
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Her name is Angela Turpin andshe's a trauma healer, the owner
of Transform.
With Angela, she's also thepodcast host of Community Made
and also a published author, andshe began her healing of her
childhood wounds andtransforming stories about 10
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years ago and has helpedcountless women heal their own
wounds for the past five yearswith lasting results.
Angela also has a master'sdegree in transpersonal
psychology and five years in thecorporate world.
She also has tons ofcertifications in
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trauma-informed coaching, nlp,hypnosis, life coaching,
timeline therapy.
If you can think of it, angelais she just got so much in her
pocket and she is seriouslyy'all on a mission to help women
heal their childhood wounds ofy'all on a mission to help women
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heal their childhood wounds andreally transform, rewrite their
story so they can apply theirbusiness strategy with ease.
And you know we are all aboutease here on Thrive Like a
Mother.
We are all about thriving, andso I can't wait for you to hear
from her Just without furtherado.
Let's get into it from her Justwithout further ado.
(02:27):
Let's get into it, okay, angela, I am literally so excited to
have you here on the podcasttoday.
It feels like it was literallyyesterday that we were gracing
the same stage.
I can't even believe that it'sApril already, but just watching
you on that stage, you are sucha powerful light and I know our
listeners today are just goingto gain so much from our
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conversation.
Angela Turpin (02:50):
I'm so excited to be here and be a part of this,
and it does feel like it wasjust yesterday that we were on
stage together and it wasalready been two months ago, so
it's just the time has flown by.
Ebony Fleming (03:04):
It really has, it really has, it really has.
Now I was going to say Iremember literally sitting in
the audience listening to yourkeynote and literally knowing
from your story and the way thatyou were sharing it that you
have been on just this deephealing journey and so I want to
really start there.
Can you take us back to whenthat first started for you?
(03:27):
I know our listeners would loveto hear that Like what was your
kind of turning point to saythis is where I started to heal?
Angela Turpin (03:49):
10 years ago.
I kind of lost track of thetime, but I was working in
corporate and I was working foran SVP of HR and it was like the
worst professional experiencethat I had had and I had never
had that before in my life.
It was always my personal lifethat was kind of iffy and
skeptical, but it was never myprofessional life, and so when
that started to fall apart, Istarted to find like personal
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development was introduced to meand so of course then I started
watching like all themotivational videos.
I started reading like strengthfinders, I was introduced to
the Myra Briggs, the MBTI andall of those things and I was
like, okay, this is really cool.
And then, about two years intothat journey, I remembered and
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had flashbacks of my childhoodsexual abuse that I had had and
I was just like, oh, there's noway this affects me, no way, I'm
fine.
And then two years later I gotpregnant with Aubrey
Unexpectedly.
I had only known him for twoweeks and that's when I knew
like I needed to do somethingabout this.
(04:57):
Like obviously it affected meBecause and not that it's wrong
to get pregnant after two weeksof knowing someone Now that I'm
healed, I understand how I wasgiving my energy away to just
whoever.
And so I was like whoa, likethis needs to change.
And so I started healing fromthat trauma while I was pregnant
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with Aubrey, and then it kindof just snowballed from there
and then I still really couldn'tget my stuff together as far as
like relationship goes, becauseI still ended up in another
toxic relationship after Aubreywas born, and then I kind of
just burned my business to theground and burnt everything to
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the ground, and then I had torebuild after that, realizing
that there was so much stillthat I needed to heal that was
associated with the sexualtrauma that I had experienced
when I was a child, but alsoearly into my adult life, like
when I was 19 and 26,.
It had so much to do with allof those things, and so I had to
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continue to like rebuild andheal more deeply, more deeply.
And what's crazy is that when Iwas pregnant like that was just
the beginning of it and thenlater on I was like this goes so
deep, this is so intense.
Ebony Fleming (06:20):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I love that you explainit that way, because I think a
lot of people sometimes we thinkof like healing as so, like
linear, like okay, we start here, this is when we're gonna be
done.
Even sometimes in therapy Iremember my therapist asking,
like when do you think you'll belike good?
And I was like I don't know howto answer that question.
(06:41):
It should have been like a flagin my head that maybe that
might not have been thetherapist for me at the time.
But, goodness, like yeah,healing is not linear, and so I
love that you brought up thosepoints like hey, there are going
to be certain points in yourlife that maybe you need to
reprocess or just reevaluateyour trauma, just at different
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points of your life.
It will still kind of come upand it's really just how you
navigate through that.
Are there any points that youbrought up that you felt like
you maybe were going likebackwards and like how, what are
some like tools that you use tolike continue moving forward
through your healing?
Angela Turpin (07:26):
sure, when I, when I knew that I was in a
toxic relationship, I will, myimmediate thought was I should
be healed enough to not be inthis situation.
Right, like I shouldn't be inthis situation anymore I was, so
there was like a lot of I feltlike I had regressed a lot, and
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especially after I burnt mybusiness down to like completely
to the ground and I was justlike Okay, like I haven't healed
, like I don't know, I don'tknow anything at this point, and
so what I did do is I'vejournaling has always stayed
with me, did do is journalinghas always stayed with me.
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I journaled a lot when I was achild and then, you know, I got
like too cool for school and Iwas like I'm not going to do
this anymore and stop doing it.
And then it saved me when Istarted healing to begin with,
and so now it's something likeit's something that I do every
single day, and so that'ssomething that I would recommend
doing.
That's the tool that I'vecarried with me, no matter what,
like with meditation and stuff.
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I like to meditate, I'llmeditate, but I meditate with
like periods of time, so likeI'll go for like months where I
meditate every single day andthen I'll go months without ever
doing it.
Journaling has always stuck withme and I think the reason why
is because it's much easier toprocess what it is that you're
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going through while you'rejournaling.
Because when you're meditatingand I don't feel like enough
people talk about this whenyou're meditating and you have
those flashbacks or thoseexperiences, going into
meditation is not safe for youat that point.
So I wouldn't, it's notsomething that I would recommend
or go into.
(09:11):
So I've kind of had like aroller coaster relationship with
it, if you will, but journalingis definitely it.
And then I went through like adeep integration process after I
burned my business to theground, and integration
essentially at least for me itjust means like becoming whole,
becoming one, and so a lot ofthat looks like leaning into all
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the doubt and all the fear andmy inner child and the parts of
me that felt abandoned andrejected and punished.
So I had to really look atthese pieces of me that were
kind of running the show andkind of bringing them back in so
that I would stop sabotagingall of my success.
Ebony Fleming (09:57):
Wow, that's so powerful, Just to recognize that
there are these parts of youthat, hey, we need to have a
talk, basically, these differentparts of you, like, hey, let's
talk it out, let's figure outwhat's going on here, forgive
ourselves in whichever ways weneed to.
I think a lot of people don'tthink about that either, that
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sometimes we think offorgiveness as looking at
outside sources.
Sometimes the work is in herethat you need to start looking
at outside sources.
Sometimes, like, the work islike it's in here, but you need
to start looking at goodness.
Okay, uh, let's see.
Okay, so we were talking aboutum, you were talking about
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having to, like burn yourbusiness to the ground and start
basically from, you know, baselevel foundation.
How can you share how youstarted to rebuild your business
after that happened and likewhat it looked like, what
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healing kind of contributed toto that?
Like how did it shape what youstarted to build, what your
business, what your businessstarted to look like after that?
Angela Turpin (11:11):
yeah.
So what I did is I went intothis period of not being on
social media, not promotinganything, not being online, and
I think it was like for a goodsix to nine months that I
decided not to show up.
I needed to heal, not only fromlike burning my business to the
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ground, but also being in thisunhealthy relationship, and I
didn't understand that a lot ofmy sabotage was created through
that relationship, and I didn'tunderstand how much your brain
chemistry changes, your bodychanges after being in an
unhealthy relationship like that.
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So I had to really bringeverything back almost, I guess,
is the best way to describe it.
I had to relearn how to trustmyself.
I had to relearn who I was.
I had to understand that I hadreally, I guess, gotten soft is
the best way to put it Becauseyou know, before I started
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healing, I was super independent, I was very blunt, I didn't let
anybody help me.
I didn't let anybody help me.
I didn't let anybody do thosethings for me.
And then I kind of swung to theother side of the spectrum
where I was a complete doormat,because I thought that I was the
toxic one.
Right, I was the problem.
And so what I realized in thattime was there's an in-between,
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there is an in between it isokay to be independent, it's
also okay to know when to askfor help, it's okay to have
boundaries and it's okay to lovepeople.
Like I had to learn that Idon't want to say balance,
because I'm not sure Inecessarily believe in that, but
, like in this space of harmonyright, I had to be in this
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harmony with myself andunderstanding that my body was
constantly giving me signals butI was ignoring them, and so I
had to really come into thespace of trusting myself, my
body, my intuition, learning howto pull myself back after being
, you know, gaslit and notbelieved in, and just totally
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having my worth, I guess,lowered again in essence.
And so I had to really learnhow to do that.
And while that was happening, Ireally looked at what do I want
from my business, like what do Itruly want for my business, who
do I want to be and what am Igoing to give to people?
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Because my business before thatit was called as free, as you
see, and so it was very specific, but I had like outgrown it as
well, so I really changed it soit could be like all
encompassing and really alsorepresent who I am now and allow
that to evolve, allow that tochange as we.
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As you know, I evolve and as Iheal, and so I had to really do
it in a very embodied way,whereas before I just kind of
did everything in a, I don'twant to say masculine way, but I
just kind of did everythingbecause I thought that that's
what I should be doing, wherethis was more of.
I'm going to be doing thisbecause this is what feels good.
(14:26):
Okay, that's not feeling goodanymore.
It's time for me to evolve, andso that's really where I
started to like change and shiftthings.
Ebony Fleming (14:36):
Yes, yeah, I love what you're describing.
For me, I describe it kind ofas like finding my flow.
Even like in the kitchen, I'mfinding my cooking flow.
When I'm, you know, as a mom,I'm figuring out my flow,
especially being a mom havingHenry.
Here.
There was a lot of there's, nobalance here.
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There's no there's a lot ofjuggling and literally just
going with the flow, which atthat time, was his flow most of
the time.
So I love that you, that youbring that up, really like
listening to your intuition, notgoing by.
Okay, this is the way it has tobe in business.
Just really start likelistening with it and I think
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people will yeah, they willresonate with that, Because we
need more of that in our world.
There's so many strategies outthere, right?
Angela Turpin (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And I love that you bring thatup Because it's like a lot of
coaches and I love them and Ilove that we're all in business
and we have this space online.
But a lot of coaches arereusing a system that worked for
them, without considering whatI want from life, or my energy,
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or my time that's allotted, orwhether or not I have children.
And then the hardest thing thehardest thing is for especially
for me is to invest with someonewho doesn't also have children,
because they have differentlife, a different reality,
different expectations, and I'mlike I'm not doing that.
I don't understand what makesyou think that that's even
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possible for me.
And then I see other coachesthat come in and be like, oh
well, you're triggered by thatbecause you don't think that
that's possible and all of thosethings.
I'm like, no, you don't havechildren.
You don't understand.
I don't think we should behaving this conversation, like,
until you are there and you knowwhat that's like, then we
shouldn't be, we shouldn't betalking about this.
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Not that people without kidscan't have opinions Absolutely
they can, and I was one of thosepeople.
Okay, I was just one of thosepeople.
But as soon as you have kids,everything actually changes and
you don't understand that untilyou have kids.
Ebony Fleming (16:43):
Very true, Gosh.
Okay, so perfect segue intothis question.
So many moms like they are outthere and they're literally
sitting there.
They have a dream on theirheart that they have not put out
into the world yet and theyhave that.
You know faded mom guilt rightAbout how much time and energy
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it takes to go into it.
Can you share with them how younavigate that balance, that
flow between, like, beingambitious and knowing you have
big dreams and goals andmotherhood?
Angela Turpin (17:17):
Yeah, so that one is so hard because you know
Aubrey's in school now, soeverything looks a little bit
different, right?
So because she's in school, Ithink it's roughly about six
hours.
I have six hours to work on mydream, six hours to build a
business, six hours to do thethings that are driving me as a
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human being, right, not just asa mom, but before that she was
at home.
She was at home with me all thetime pretty much, except for
when she would go with her dad,and so I had to really figure
out, like, how to make it workand what to do with all the
emotions that I felt, because Iwanted to be with her, but I
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also wanted to work at the sametime, and what I had to really
learn was to, number one, begentle with myself, because, as
much as I would love to believethat mom guilt is going away,
it's something that I've had tolearn to navigate and really
lean into, because I feel likewhen I'm leaning into the guilt,
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it allows me to see what Itruly want for my business, like
the reality is, is that I, eventhough I'm like building it and
it's growing and all of thosethings, what I really want is in
this space is that I have abusiness that runs by itself so
that when my daughter wants meor needs me or doesn't really
want me to work, I can be like,yeah, that's fine, baby, we can,
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it's growing, it's making usmoney, we don't have to worry
about it, I can be here with you.
So I noticed that I feel thatwhen I feel like that contrast,
if you will, that I want to bewith my daughter and I have to
go work, but I would much rathermy work automatically make me
all this money so that I canjust be like I'm just going to
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be with you and that'scompletely okay.
So I've had to learn how tounderstand what that emotion
actually meant for me.
But also I had to lean onpeople to come in and help me
with her while she's here, likeif I hired a babysitter for a
while, which was really helpfulbecause if she wanted to come
see me, she could still come inand see me while I was working
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and that felt really good.
That helped with the mom guilt.
But also I also had to learnwhen my kid was playing me.
So I had to learn like my childis just trying to get me not to
be working.
Ebony Fleming (19:42):
You know what I mean.
Like I had to be like, okay,baby trying to get me not to be
working.
Angela Turpin (19:44):
You know what I mean.
Like I had to be like okay,baby, like I love you.
I've been with you all day.
I have to go do this one thingthat's going to take me 30
minutes.
You'll be okay, like you'll,you'll, you'll survive, you'll
be okay.
Ebony Fleming (19:55):
Yes that's so funny, they, they know they
definitely know and yeah, likeyou said, like that mom guilt
it's not, it's not gonna go away, whether you have, like now,
six hours like Angela or, um,like me, I'm trying to think I
don't even know, I don't evenremember when Henry was here how
many hours I had, but it wasbeing realistic with this is how
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much time I had.
Let's even take nap time anhour.
Sometimes it was beingrealistic with this is how much
time I had.
Let's even take nap time anhour.
Sometimes it was an hour whenhe was sleeping and being like
really intentional, what am Igoing to use this time for?
I like how you talked about thegoal is literally to not be
sitting in front of ourcomputers all day.
Right, it's basically to buildthis business that works for us,
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so that we have time to spendwith our babies more.
You know the time is, more withthem, less on, you know,
sitting in front of the computer.
So, yeah, like be, you've gotto be like realistic with just
where you're at.
Don't beat yourself up.
Even if it's like 30 minutesthat you're taking towards
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building that dream, that isstill something, towards
building towards the biggergoals.
Like remember remembering thatbig picture and that why is so
huge.
So I want to.
We're talking about yourdaughter, of course, and you are
raising the most beautifullittle girl I know.
She has a disability.
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Can you share a little bitabout what your experience has
been with that and just kind ofwhat that journey has looked
like for you?
Angela Turpin (21:31):
Yeah, sure.
So Aubrey has one of the rarestforms of epilepsy for little
girls, so it is a geneticdisease that's passed down from
her dad and so he gives it to100% of his female offspring.
And so, because it's a gene,and its mutation on, this gene
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actually looks different foreverybody or every little girl
that has it.
And so she um, from whatthey've been telling us, she
only has this seizure part of it.
But as her mother, I also seeit in her like socially and
making friends, and I do feellike she um I don't want to say
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off from other little kids, butshe is different than other
little kids and I have noticedthat we I do deal with like
behaviors and things like that.
And then, of course, you knowour life is different.
So if Aubrey has a fever, thatwe need to be prepared to go to
the hospital at that point intime, even because the rescue
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meds don't always help her whenshe's having a fever.
So when it's when we perceivefevers as being normal for other
little kids it's not alwaysnormal for us so we get prepared
to go to the hospital, we getprepared to navigate all of
these things.
It's been one of the hardestthings that I have ever dealt
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with.
I have watched Aubrey die twiceand watched her like come back
to life because the firstresponders came in and saved her
, and so it's been very crazy.
I had to learn how to navigatethat fear of completely losing
my child, and so, of course, youknow, I worked with a mentor
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with that to learn how to leaninto that.
But also, like you know, it'sso different, Like I resonate
with the moms that have childrenwith autism because you, just
your child feels different foryou.
Like you don't know if they'reever going to have like a quote,
unquote normal life.
You don't know what's going tohappen for them.
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Or if we go into, if she goesinto, having seizures, what's
going to happen after that?
Is she going to regress?
Is she going to come back asher, you know, back to her
baseline is what they call it.
So it's a lot of stress that Idid not expect to be navigating
as a mom, especially when Ichose to be a single mom.
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Like I didn't.
I was like this is fine, I'vegot this, Like it's not a big
deal, and then when thishappened, I was like, oh my gosh
, I was like I don't even knowoh my gosh.
Ebony Fleming (24:22):
I was like I don't even know.
Gosh, oh my goodness.
And yeah, like, oh, I thinkabout um, just the way, the way
that God, like you know, henever gives us anything that he
doesn't know already that we canhandle, right, I believe that
wholeheartedly, especially withboth of our journeys.
I understand that.
Yeah, that's huge, that's hugefor me.
Can you talk about just howhaving Aubrey, how that has
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really shaped you, not just aslike a mother, a person, but
also as an entrepreneur, justmaybe all three of those?
How has that, how has yourexperience with her as a mom,
just shaped you?
Angela Turpin (25:03):
Yeah.
So I do want to say before,having the trauma that I've had
has allowed me to be able tohandle the chaos that happens
when those things are happening.
So it is something that I was Idon't want to say emotionally
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prepared for, but I wasdefinitely prepared for.
So and that's one of the thingsthat like translates to being
an entrepreneur and being aperson when things are so bad,
so bad and so chaotic and so outof control.
I don't know what it is, butI'm just so grounded in the
moment, I know how to handlethis stress and this stress and
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this stress and still be focusedon my desire, still be focused
on what matters, still befocused on Aubrey and advocating
for her and speaking up for usand what works.
And all of that translates intobeing an entrepreneur, because
when you're an entrepreneur, Imean, as you already know, it
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heals every aspect of you.
You want to know what yourinsecurities are and what your
shadows are.
Just sign up to be anentrepreneur.
Like everything's coming at youand you learn like I have to
speak up and it's like, okay,well, if I can speak up for my
child, tell the doctor whatthey're going to do, go to court
and advocate for my daughter.
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I can do.
I can show up online and saythis stuff it's not that serious
now, right?
So it's kind of like it's builtme to be even stronger and even
more grounded and even moreanchored into who I am, which
has been one of the hardestjourneys, I feel like because
you know, as moms, we and Idon't know what it's like for
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you, but I have always felt likeI'm not good enough to be a mom
, like I'm unworthy to be a mom,and so learning to deal with
the court and dealing with herdad has allowed me to be like
you know what you are the mostdeserving and worthy and good
enough mom there is for yourchild.
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Like, stop believing all of thisother stuff and I don't know
where that stuff comes from.
As moms, it's weird, but it'slike I'm don't play into that
anymore, and so that has alsohelped me feel like I'm good
enough for my business, I'm goodenough to help my clients.
I'm you know, I'm good enoughto be out there on stage, on
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social media, all of thosethings.
So it kind of just it's likethey go to, they just go
together.
If you can navigate being a mom, you can navigate being a
business owner Like they'realmost the same thing, that's so
true, except for you can turnyour business off.
You can't turn your kid off.
Ebony Fleming (27:49):
Yeah, I love that Because it's so true.
Yeah, I love that because it'sso true.
Literally, being a mom is, Ithink, even equal or greater
than having a full-time job.
We wear so so many differenthats, so we deal with so many
different personalities, likeour own included, just
navigating everything with themas they're growing up, because
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they're their own little peopletoo right, just gosh, just
everything, everything.
So I want to wrap us up.
If you could go back five yearsand tell yourself anything,
what would that be?
Angela Turpin (28:28):
Wow, five years ago.
Okay, so five years ago, rightaround this time, I would start
dating my ex, and I was actually.
I remember it to this day.
I was writing in my journalabout you know, I don't think
that he's right for me, I thinkthat you need to stop dating him
or whatever, but I convincedmyself that I was fearful
(28:49):
because of all the experiencesthat I had in my life, and I
would tell myself listen toyourself, your intuition is
right.
And that is definitely what Iwould tell myself.
Yeah.
Ebony Fleming (29:00):
Yes, listen, within, that gut is always
telling you something.
You just got to figure out whatit's saying.
And, yeah, I love that you saidyou were journaling too,
because that's huge.
If you need to write it out asthings are changing, as you're
writing, you'll start to like,your vision will become clear.
Goodness, ok.
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Yeah absolutely so.
Can you share any?
I know you have so much goingon right now in your business.
Can you share any upcoming orcurrent resources that our
listeners can utilize in theirown healing journeys?
Angela Turpin (29:38):
Yeah, sure, so I currently have, and this will be
out like.
This is just the freebie thatis out.
It's Healed to be Seen and it'sa training and it has a 25
minute module, journal, promptsand a meditation, and it's
actually designed to help youheal your belonging wounds, your
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sisterhood wounds and yourmother wounds, so that you can
feel like not only can youcreate your own thriving
community, but you feel like youcan create friendships and
sisterhood and feel moregrounded in who you are, because
I'm a huge believer that onceyou heal those wounds, you start
bringing the right people intoyour world.
Ebony Fleming (30:21):
Yes, yes, I love that.
I love that, definitely havingthe right circle and the right
support system.
You and I both know it is soimportant.
Even just being in California,I love that it brought us
together because I feel like nowI have a new sister, I have a
new person in my circle that wecan root for each other.
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It's just, it's amazing, okay.
So where, angela, where can ourlisteners connect with you and
just continue to follow along onyour journey?
Angela Turpin (30:52):
Sure, so I'm pretty sure you can find me like
everywhere.
The handle is at transform withAngela.
I am mostly on Instagram, butyou can find me anywhere with
that handle.
Ebony Fleming (31:04):
Yes, perfect.
Thank you so much again forbeing here and sharing your
heart and your story and yourjourney with us.
I know today's conversation isgoing to be so inspiring for our
listeners, so just thank you.
Angela Turpin (31:19):
Thank you so much for having me.
Ebony Fleming (31:21):
Thank you so much for listening love.
If anything in today's episoderesonated with you, share it
with your bestie, or share it onsocial media and tag me so we
can chat about it, as always,sending you light and love, and
remember you are worthy, you areenough and you deserve to
thrive.
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Hey, loves, and welcome back toanother episode of the Thrive
Like a Mother podcast.
I am so excited for our guesttoday.
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Her name is Angela Turpin andshe's a trauma healer, the owner
of Transform.
With Angela, she's also thepodcast host of Community Made
and also a published author, andshe began her healing of her
childhood wounds andtransforming stories about 10
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years ago and has helpedcountless women heal their own
wounds for the past five yearswith lasting results.
Angela also has a master'sdegree in transpersonal
psychology and five years in thecorporate world.
She also has tons ofcertifications in
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trauma-informed coaching, nlp,hypnosis, life coaching,
timeline therapy.
If you can think of it, angelais she just got so much in her
pocket and she is seriouslyy'all on a mission to help women
heal their childhood wounds ofy'all on a mission to help women
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heal their childhood wounds andreally transform, rewrite their
story so they can apply theirbusiness strategy with ease.
And you know we are all aboutease here on Thrive Like a
Mother.
We are all about thriving, andso I can't wait for you to hear
from her Just without furtherado.
Let's get into it from her Justwithout further ado.
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Let's get into it, okay, angela, I am literally so excited to
have you here on the podcasttoday.
It feels like it was literallyyesterday that we were gracing
the same stage.
I can't even believe that it'sApril already, but just watching
you on that stage, you are sucha powerful light and I know our
listeners today are just goingto gain so much from our
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conversation.
Angela Turpin (02:50):
I'm so excited to be here and be a part of this,
and it does feel like it wasjust yesterday that we were on
stage together and it wasalready been two months ago, so
it's just the time has flown by.
Ebony Fleming (03:04):
It really has, it really has, it really has.
Now I was going to say Iremember literally sitting in
the audience listening to yourkeynote and literally knowing
from your story and the way thatyou were sharing it that you
have been on just this deephealing journey and so I want to
really start there.
Can you take us back to whenthat first started for you?
(03:27):
I know our listeners would loveto hear that Like what was your
kind of turning point to saythis is where I started to heal?
Angela Turpin (03:49):
10 years ago.
I kind of lost track of thetime, but I was working in
corporate and I was working foran SVP of HR and it was like the
worst professional experiencethat I had had and I had never
had that before in my life.
It was always my personal lifethat was kind of iffy and
skeptical, but it was never myprofessional life, and so when
that started to fall apart, Istarted to find like personal
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development was introduced to meand so of course then I started
watching like all themotivational videos.
I started reading like strengthfinders, I was introduced to
the Myra Briggs, the MBTI andall of those things and I was
like, okay, this is really cool.
And then, about two years intothat journey, I remembered and
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had flashbacks of my childhoodsexual abuse that I had had and
I was just like, oh, there's noway this affects me, no way, I'm
fine.
And then two years later I gotpregnant with Aubrey
Unexpectedly.
I had only known him for twoweeks and that's when I knew
like I needed to do somethingabout this.
(04:57):
Like obviously it affected meBecause and not that it's wrong
to get pregnant after two weeksof knowing someone Now that I'm
healed, I understand how I wasgiving my energy away to just
whoever.
And so I was like whoa, likethis needs to change.
And so I started healing fromthat trauma while I was pregnant
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with Aubrey, and then it kindof just snowballed from there
and then I still really couldn'tget my stuff together as far as
like relationship goes, becauseI still ended up in another
toxic relationship after Aubreywas born, and then I kind of
just burned my business to theground and burnt everything to
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the ground, and then I had torebuild after that, realizing
that there was so much stillthat I needed to heal that was
associated with the sexualtrauma that I had experienced
when I was a child, but alsoearly into my adult life, like
when I was 19 and 26,.
It had so much to do with allof those things, and so I had to
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continue to like rebuild andheal more deeply, more deeply.
And what's crazy is that when Iwas pregnant like that was just
the beginning of it and thenlater on I was like this goes so
deep, this is so intense.
Ebony Fleming (06:20):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I love that you explainit that way, because I think a
lot of people sometimes we thinkof like healing as so, like
linear, like okay, we start here, this is when we're gonna be
done.
Even sometimes in therapy Iremember my therapist asking,
like when do you think you'll belike good?
And I was like I don't know howto answer that question.
(06:41):
It should have been like a flagin my head that maybe that
might not have been thetherapist for me at the time.
But, goodness, like yeah,healing is not linear, and so I
love that you brought up thosepoints like hey, there are going
to be certain points in yourlife that maybe you need to
reprocess or just reevaluateyour trauma, just at different
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points of your life.
It will still kind of come upand it's really just how you
navigate through that.
Are there any points that youbrought up that you felt like
you maybe were going likebackwards and like how, what are
some like tools that you use tolike continue moving forward
through your healing?
Angela Turpin (07:26):
sure, when I, when I knew that I was in a
toxic relationship, I will, myimmediate thought was I should
be healed enough to not be inthis situation.
Right, like I shouldn't be inthis situation anymore I was, so
there was like a lot of I feltlike I had regressed a lot, and
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especially after I burnt mybusiness down to like completely
to the ground and I was justlike Okay, like I haven't healed
, like I don't know, I don'tknow anything at this point, and
so what I did do is I'vejournaling has always stayed
with me, did do is journalinghas always stayed with me.
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I journaled a lot when I was achild and then, you know, I got
like too cool for school and Iwas like I'm not going to do
this anymore and stop doing it.
And then it saved me when Istarted healing to begin with,
and so now it's something likeit's something that I do every
single day, and so that'ssomething that I would recommend
doing.
That's the tool that I'vecarried with me, no matter what,
like with meditation and stuff.
(08:29):
I like to meditate, I'llmeditate, but I meditate with
like periods of time, so likeI'll go for like months where I
meditate every single day andthen I'll go months without ever
doing it.
Journaling has always stuck withme and I think the reason why
is because it's much easier toprocess what it is that you're
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going through while you'rejournaling.
Because when you're meditatingand I don't feel like enough
people talk about this whenyou're meditating and you have
those flashbacks or thoseexperiences, going into
meditation is not safe for youat that point.
So I wouldn't, it's notsomething that I would recommend
or go into.
(09:11):
So I've kind of had like aroller coaster relationship with
it, if you will, but journalingis definitely it.
And then I went through like adeep integration process after I
burned my business to theground, and integration
essentially at least for me itjust means like becoming whole,
becoming one, and so a lot ofthat looks like leaning into all
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the doubt and all the fear andmy inner child and the parts of
me that felt abandoned andrejected and punished.
So I had to really look atthese pieces of me that were
kind of running the show andkind of bringing them back in so
that I would stop sabotagingall of my success.
Ebony Fleming (09:57):
Wow, that's so powerful, Just to recognize that
there are these parts of youthat, hey, we need to have a
talk, basically, these differentparts of you, like, hey, let's
talk it out, let's figure outwhat's going on here, forgive
ourselves in whichever ways weneed to.
I think a lot of people don'tthink about that either, that
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sometimes we think offorgiveness as looking at
outside sources.
Sometimes the work is in herethat you need to start looking
at outside sources.
Sometimes, like, the work islike it's in here, but you need
to start looking at goodness.
Okay, uh, let's see.
Okay, so we were talking aboutum, you were talking about
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having to, like burn yourbusiness to the ground and start
basically from, you know, baselevel foundation.
How can you share how youstarted to rebuild your business
after that happened and likewhat it looked like, what
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healing kind of contributed toto that?
Like how did it shape what youstarted to build, what your
business, what your businessstarted to look like after that?
Angela Turpin (11:11):
yeah.
So what I did is I went intothis period of not being on
social media, not promotinganything, not being online, and
I think it was like for a goodsix to nine months that I
decided not to show up.
I needed to heal, not only fromlike burning my business to the
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ground, but also being in thisunhealthy relationship, and I
didn't understand that a lot ofmy sabotage was created through
that relationship, and I didn'tunderstand how much your brain
chemistry changes, your bodychanges after being in an
unhealthy relationship like that.
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So I had to really bringeverything back almost, I guess,
is the best way to describe it.
I had to relearn how to trustmyself.
I had to relearn who I was.
I had to understand that I hadreally, I guess, gotten soft is
the best way to put it Becauseyou know, before I started
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healing, I was super independent, I was very blunt, I didn't let
anybody help me.
I didn't let anybody help me.
I didn't let anybody do thosethings for me.
And then I kind of swung to theother side of the spectrum
where I was a complete doormat,because I thought that I was the
toxic one.
Right, I was the problem.
And so what I realized in thattime was there's an in-between,
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there is an in between it isokay to be independent, it's
also okay to know when to askfor help, it's okay to have
boundaries and it's okay to lovepeople.
Like I had to learn that Idon't want to say balance,
because I'm not sure Inecessarily believe in that, but
, like in this space of harmonyright, I had to be in this
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harmony with myself andunderstanding that my body was
constantly giving me signals butI was ignoring them, and so I
had to really come into thespace of trusting myself, my
body, my intuition, learning howto pull myself back after being
, you know, gaslit and notbelieved in, and just totally
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having my worth, I guess,lowered again in essence.
And so I had to really learnhow to do that.
And while that was happening, Ireally looked at what do I want
from my business, like what do Itruly want for my business, who
do I want to be and what am Igoing to give to people?
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Because my business before thatit was called as free, as you
see, and so it was very specific, but I had like outgrown it as
well, so I really changed it soit could be like all
encompassing and really alsorepresent who I am now and allow
that to evolve, allow that tochange as we.
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As you know, I evolve and as Iheal, and so I had to really do
it in a very embodied way,whereas before I just kind of
did everything in a, I don'twant to say masculine way, but I
just kind of did everythingbecause I thought that that's
what I should be doing, wherethis was more of.
I'm going to be doing thisbecause this is what feels good.
(14:26):
Okay, that's not feeling goodanymore.
It's time for me to evolve, andso that's really where I
started to like change and shiftthings.
Ebony Fleming (14:36):
Yes, yeah, I love what you're describing.
For me, I describe it kind ofas like finding my flow.
Even like in the kitchen, I'mfinding my cooking flow.
When I'm, you know, as a mom,I'm figuring out my flow,
especially being a mom havingHenry.
Here.
There was a lot of there's, nobalance here.
(14:57):
There's no there's a lot ofjuggling and literally just
going with the flow, which atthat time, was his flow most of
the time.
So I love that you, that youbring that up, really like
listening to your intuition, notgoing by.
Okay, this is the way it has tobe in business.
Just really start likelistening with it and I think
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people will yeah, they willresonate with that, Because we
need more of that in our world.
There's so many strategies outthere, right?
Angela Turpin (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And I love that you bring thatup Because it's like a lot of
coaches and I love them and Ilove that we're all in business
and we have this space online.
But a lot of coaches arereusing a system that worked for
them, without considering whatI want from life, or my energy,
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or my time that's allotted, orwhether or not I have children.
And then the hardest thing thehardest thing is for especially
for me is to invest with someonewho doesn't also have children,
because they have differentlife, a different reality,
different expectations, and I'mlike I'm not doing that.
I don't understand what makesyou think that that's even
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possible for me.
And then I see other coachesthat come in and be like, oh
well, you're triggered by thatbecause you don't think that
that's possible and all of thosethings.
I'm like, no, you don't havechildren.
You don't understand.
I don't think we should behaving this conversation, like,
until you are there and you knowwhat that's like, then we
shouldn't be, we shouldn't betalking about this.
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Not that people without kidscan't have opinions Absolutely
they can, and I was one of thosepeople.
Okay, I was just one of thosepeople.
But as soon as you have kids,everything actually changes and
you don't understand that untilyou have kids.
Ebony Fleming (16:43):
Very true, Gosh.
Okay, so perfect segue intothis question.
So many moms like they are outthere and they're literally
sitting there.
They have a dream on theirheart that they have not put out
into the world yet and theyhave that.
You know faded mom guilt rightAbout how much time and energy
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it takes to go into it.
Can you share with them how younavigate that balance, that
flow between, like, beingambitious and knowing you have
big dreams and goals andmotherhood?
Angela Turpin (17:17):
Yeah, so that one is so hard because you know
Aubrey's in school now, soeverything looks a little bit
different, right?
So because she's in school, Ithink it's roughly about six
hours.
I have six hours to work on mydream, six hours to build a
business, six hours to do thethings that are driving me as a
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human being, right, not just asa mom, but before that she was
at home.
She was at home with me all thetime pretty much, except for
when she would go with her dad,and so I had to really figure
out, like, how to make it workand what to do with all the
emotions that I felt, because Iwanted to be with her, but I
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also wanted to work at the sametime, and what I had to really
learn was to, number one, begentle with myself, because, as
much as I would love to believethat mom guilt is going away,
it's something that I've had tolearn to navigate and really
lean into, because I feel likewhen I'm leaning into the guilt,
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it allows me to see what Itruly want for my business, like
the reality is, is that I, eventhough I'm like building it and
it's growing and all of thosethings, what I really want is in
this space is that I have abusiness that runs by itself so
that when my daughter wants meor needs me or doesn't really
want me to work, I can be like,yeah, that's fine, baby, we can,
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it's growing, it's making usmoney, we don't have to worry
about it, I can be here with you.
So I noticed that I feel thatwhen I feel like that contrast,
if you will, that I want to bewith my daughter and I have to
go work, but I would much rathermy work automatically make me
all this money so that I canjust be like I'm just going to
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be with you and that'scompletely okay.
So I've had to learn how tounderstand what that emotion
actually meant for me.
But also I had to lean onpeople to come in and help me
with her while she's here, likeif I hired a babysitter for a
while, which was really helpfulbecause if she wanted to come
see me, she could still come inand see me while I was working
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and that felt really good.
That helped with the mom guilt.
But also I also had to learnwhen my kid was playing me.
So I had to learn like my childis just trying to get me not to
be working.
Ebony Fleming (19:42):
You know what I mean.
Like I had to be like, okay,baby trying to get me not to be
working.
Angela Turpin (19:44):
You know what I mean.
Like I had to be like okay,baby, like I love you.
I've been with you all day.
I have to go do this one thingthat's going to take me 30
minutes.
You'll be okay, like you'll,you'll, you'll survive, you'll
be okay.
Ebony Fleming (19:55):
Yes that's so funny, they, they know they
definitely know and yeah, likeyou said, like that mom guilt
it's not, it's not gonna go away, whether you have, like now,
six hours like Angela or, um,like me, I'm trying to think I
don't even know, I don't evenremember when Henry was here how
many hours I had, but it wasbeing realistic with this is how
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much time I had.
Let's even take nap time anhour.
Sometimes it was beingrealistic with this is how much
time I had.
Let's even take nap time anhour.
Sometimes it was an hour whenhe was sleeping and being like
really intentional, what am Igoing to use this time for?
I like how you talked about thegoal is literally to not be
sitting in front of ourcomputers all day.
Right, it's basically to buildthis business that works for us,
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so that we have time to spendwith our babies more.
You know the time is, more withthem, less on, you know,
sitting in front of the computer.
So, yeah, like be, you've gotto be like realistic with just
where you're at.
Don't beat yourself up.
Even if it's like 30 minutesthat you're taking towards
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building that dream, that isstill something, towards
building towards the biggergoals.
Like remember remembering thatbig picture and that why is so
huge.
So I want to.
We're talking about yourdaughter, of course, and you are
raising the most beautifullittle girl I know.
She has a disability.
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Can you share a little bitabout what your experience has
been with that and just kind ofwhat that journey has looked
like for you?
Angela Turpin (21:31):
Yeah, sure.
So Aubrey has one of the rarestforms of epilepsy for little
girls, so it is a geneticdisease that's passed down from
her dad and so he gives it to100% of his female offspring.
And so, because it's a gene,and its mutation on, this gene
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actually looks different foreverybody or every little girl
that has it.
And so she um, from whatthey've been telling us, she
only has this seizure part of it.
But as her mother, I also seeit in her like socially and
making friends, and I do feellike she um I don't want to say
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off from other little kids, butshe is different than other
little kids and I have noticedthat we I do deal with like
behaviors and things like that.
And then, of course, you knowour life is different.
So if Aubrey has a fever, thatwe need to be prepared to go to
the hospital at that point intime, even because the rescue
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meds don't always help her whenshe's having a fever.
So when it's when we perceivefevers as being normal for other
little kids it's not alwaysnormal for us so we get prepared
to go to the hospital, we getprepared to navigate all of
these things.
It's been one of the hardestthings that I have ever dealt
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with.
I have watched Aubrey die twiceand watched her like come back
to life because the firstresponders came in and saved her
, and so it's been very crazy.
I had to learn how to navigatethat fear of completely losing
my child, and so, of course, youknow, I worked with a mentor
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with that to learn how to leaninto that.
But also, like you know, it'sso different, Like I resonate
with the moms that have childrenwith autism because you, just
your child feels different foryou.
Like you don't know if they'reever going to have like a quote,
unquote normal life.
You don't know what's going tohappen for them.
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Or if we go into, if she goesinto, having seizures, what's
going to happen after that?
Is she going to regress?
Is she going to come back asher, you know, back to her
baseline is what they call it.
So it's a lot of stress that Idid not expect to be navigating
as a mom, especially when Ichose to be a single mom.
(24:04):
Like I didn't.
I was like this is fine, I'vegot this, Like it's not a big
deal, and then when thishappened, I was like, oh my gosh
, I was like I don't even knowoh my gosh.
Ebony Fleming (24:22):
I was like I don't even know.
Gosh, oh my goodness.
And yeah, like, oh, I thinkabout um, just the way, the way
that God, like you know, henever gives us anything that he
doesn't know already that we canhandle, right, I believe that
wholeheartedly, especially withboth of our journeys.
I understand that.
Yeah, that's huge, that's hugefor me.
Can you talk about just howhaving Aubrey, how that has
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really shaped you, not just aslike a mother, a person, but
also as an entrepreneur, justmaybe all three of those?
How has that, how has yourexperience with her as a mom,
just shaped you?
Angela Turpin (25:03):
Yeah.
So I do want to say before,having the trauma that I've had
has allowed me to be able tohandle the chaos that happens
when those things are happening.
So it is something that I was Idon't want to say emotionally
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prepared for, but I wasdefinitely prepared for.
So and that's one of the thingsthat like translates to being
an entrepreneur and being aperson when things are so bad,
so bad and so chaotic and so outof control.
I don't know what it is, butI'm just so grounded in the
moment, I know how to handlethis stress and this stress and
(25:47):
this stress and still be focusedon my desire, still be focused
on what matters, still befocused on Aubrey and advocating
for her and speaking up for usand what works.
And all of that translates intobeing an entrepreneur, because
when you're an entrepreneur, Imean, as you already know, it
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heals every aspect of you.
You want to know what yourinsecurities are and what your
shadows are.
Just sign up to be anentrepreneur.
Like everything's coming at youand you learn like I have to
speak up and it's like, okay,well, if I can speak up for my
child, tell the doctor whatthey're going to do, go to court
and advocate for my daughter.
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I can do.
I can show up online and saythis stuff it's not that serious
now, right?
So it's kind of like it's builtme to be even stronger and even
more grounded and even moreanchored into who I am, which
has been one of the hardestjourneys, I feel like because
you know, as moms, we and Idon't know what it's like for
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you, but I have always felt likeI'm not good enough to be a mom
, like I'm unworthy to be a mom,and so learning to deal with
the court and dealing with herdad has allowed me to be like
you know what you are the mostdeserving and worthy and good
enough mom there is for yourchild.
(27:13):
Like, stop believing all of thisother stuff and I don't know
where that stuff comes from.
As moms, it's weird, but it'slike I'm don't play into that
anymore, and so that has alsohelped me feel like I'm good
enough for my business, I'm goodenough to help my clients.
I'm you know, I'm good enoughto be out there on stage, on
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social media, all of thosethings.
So it kind of just it's likethey go to, they just go
together.
If you can navigate being a mom, you can navigate being a
business owner Like they'realmost the same thing, that's so
true, except for you can turnyour business off.
You can't turn your kid off.
Ebony Fleming (27:49):
Yeah, I love that Because it's so true.
Yeah, I love that because it'sso true.
Literally, being a mom is, Ithink, even equal or greater
than having a full-time job.
We wear so so many differenthats, so we deal with so many
different personalities, likeour own included, just
navigating everything with themas they're growing up, because
(28:12):
they're their own little peopletoo right, just gosh, just
everything, everything.
So I want to wrap us up.
If you could go back five yearsand tell yourself anything,
what would that be?
Angela Turpin (28:28):
Wow, five years ago.
Okay, so five years ago, rightaround this time, I would start
dating my ex, and I was actually.
I remember it to this day.
I was writing in my journalabout you know, I don't think
that he's right for me, I thinkthat you need to stop dating him
or whatever, but I convincedmyself that I was fearful
(28:49):
because of all the experiencesthat I had in my life, and I
would tell myself listen toyourself, your intuition is
right.
And that is definitely what Iwould tell myself.
Yeah.
Ebony Fleming (29:00):
Yes, listen, within, that gut is always
telling you something.
You just got to figure out whatit's saying.
And, yeah, I love that you saidyou were journaling too,
because that's huge.
If you need to write it out asthings are changing, as you're
writing, you'll start to like,your vision will become clear.
Goodness, ok.
(29:20):
Yeah absolutely so.
Can you share any?
I know you have so much goingon right now in your business.
Can you share any upcoming orcurrent resources that our
listeners can utilize in theirown healing journeys?
Angela Turpin (29:38):
Yeah, sure, so I currently have, and this will be
out like.
This is just the freebie thatis out.
It's Healed to be Seen and it'sa training and it has a 25
minute module, journal, promptsand a meditation, and it's
actually designed to help youheal your belonging wounds, your
(30:00):
sisterhood wounds and yourmother wounds, so that you can
feel like not only can youcreate your own thriving
community, but you feel like youcan create friendships and
sisterhood and feel moregrounded in who you are, because
I'm a huge believer that onceyou heal those wounds, you start
bringing the right people intoyour world.
Ebony Fleming (30:21):
Yes, yes, I love that.
I love that, definitely havingthe right circle and the right
support system.
You and I both know it is soimportant.
Even just being in California,I love that it brought us
together because I feel like nowI have a new sister, I have a
new person in my circle that wecan root for each other.
(30:41):
It's just, it's amazing, okay.
So where, angela, where can ourlisteners connect with you and
just continue to follow along onyour journey?
Angela Turpin (30:52):
Sure, so I'm pretty sure you can find me like
everywhere.
The handle is at transform withAngela.
I am mostly on Instagram, butyou can find me anywhere with
that handle.
Ebony Fleming (31:04):
Yes, perfect.
Thank you so much again forbeing here and sharing your
heart and your story and yourjourney with us.
I know today's conversation isgoing to be so inspiring for our
listeners, so just thank you.
Angela Turpin (31:19):
Thank you so much for having me.
Ebony Fleming (31:21):
Thank you so much for listening love.
If anything in today's episoderesonated with you, share it
with your bestie, or share it onsocial media and tag me so we
can chat about it, as always,sending you light and love, and
remember you are worthy, you areenough and you deserve to
thrive.
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