November 18, 2025 • 29 mins
What if buying a home wasn't just a financial decision but a turning point in your story?
In this episode, we sit down with Scott Harris; top New York City agent and author of The Pursuit of Home. We unpack why the path to your front door is your hero journey and how a clear vision transforms stress into momentum. Scott’s childhood of moving between parents taught him how place shapes identity, and that insight powers his people-first approach to real estate and life.
Scott and I reframe home as a launch pad for the life you’re building. Scott shares how to slow down, build a vision before you tour, and interview agents with better questions so you feel seen and supported. We dig into his signature Magnetic Method—Activate, Align, Amplify, Attract—a simple framework that helps buyers and builders clarify what matters, rally the right partners, and stay the course when the market feels noisy. From negotiating in a high-pressure city to guiding anxious clients through big transitions, Scott shows how empathy and structure reduce overwhelm and lead to better outcomes.
You’ll get grounded habits you can use today: protect a quiet hour in the morning, limit doomscrolling about rates and politics, and communicate your vision with people who lift you. We talk about couples with different styles, the surprising stat that most buyers hire the first agent they meet, and why intention beats urgency.
Most of all, we return to a powerful truth: a well-chosen home can host community, launch a business, and anchor healing. If you’re navigating change—new parenthood, divorce, or a fresh start—this conversation offers a roadmap and the reminder that you don’t have to do it alone.
Connect with Scott:
Instagram: @scottieharris
LinkedIn: Scott Harris
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hey love, I'm Ebony and welcome to Thrive Like a
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Mother.
On this podcast, we're scaredfor our truth, but that fear is
what fuels us to truly live init.
You're in the right place if youfeel like you're stuck in
survivor mode and you're readyto step into who you were truly
meant to be.
I'll share resources and tools Iuse daily to help you in your
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journey towards a healthiermindset and to break the wheel
of survival.
The journey may not be easy, butyou won't have to face it alone.
I'm a mama of three healing dayby day from past trauma, and I'm
on a mission to build a lifeI've always dreamed of, but
never thought was possible.
So, love, if you're ready tobelieve in what's possible,
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let's ling arms and thrivetogether.
Hey loves and welcome back toanother episode of the Thrive
Like a Funner Podcast.
Of course, I'm your host, Ebony,and today I am welcoming a guest
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on With Us whose journey y'allis truly rooted in something
that every one of us is familiarwith, and that's home.
Scott Harris, he is a top realestate agent in New York City
with over$1.5 billion in sales.
But y'all, what really makes hisstory unique is not just the
success, it is the heart behindit.
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It is growing up as a child ofdivorce and constantly moving.
Scott really developed a deepunderstanding of how where we
live truly shapes how we feel.
And he's author, also the authorof an upcoming book called The
Pursuit of Home, which reallydigs deep and explores into what
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home really means, not justphysically, but also emotionally
and spiritually.
And so, Scott, welcome to theshow.
I'm glad you're here andhonestly honored for you to just
be able to share your story withour listeners today.
And I really want to just startwith the beginning of your story
because, you know, in usmeeting, um, you shared with me
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how you were constantly movingbetween your homes um during
your childhood.
So can you just start withsharing just what that
experience was like and what itreally taught you about people?
SPEAKER_02 (02:29):
Well, first thanks, Ebony, for having me on.
It's it's great to be here andto talk about the book and and
to talk about how I I pouredmyself into the book and it
started really.
Uh I'll start in the middle andthen go back.
When I first got into realestate in New York, I was in the
rental side of things, which isvery it's a it's a huge rental
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market in New York, but it feltlike a hustle.
I worked every day, grinding,grinding, grinding, and I was
really good at it, but it feltvery emotionally unsatisfying.
It was money, but there wasthere was no meaning, right?
And I started into the salesside of things and I closed a
sale for a a little old lady, alittle tiny studio apartment.
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She was this really wonderfulItalian woman, classy and great.
And she she had gotten divorcedand moved to New York.
I helped her find this highfloor apartment.
She didn't need it to be big,but she she looked out onto the
river and it was reallysatisfying.
And all of a sudden, I wasrealizing, wait a minute, this
is something different.
SPEAKER_00 (03:35):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:36):
And as I spent more time exploring that, I started
to realize that it was helpingother people find homes was
doing something for meemotionally.
And I started thinking about mychildhood.
So kind of going back to yourquestion, was that um my parents
got divorced when I was eight,which was a really, for me, a
very kind of impressional.
I was a really impressionable,precocious kid.
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And it really knocked me for aloop.
And I went back and forth everyweek or every two weeks between
my parents.
At first, it was like a few daysat a time, then it grew to a
week in week on, week off.
And then it was two weeks, twoweeks in, and only when I was in
college did I stop moving.
Did I stay in one place for morethan you know, two weeks at a
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time?
And that was really I didn'tknow where I was.
You know, you wake up sometimes,you don't know where you are,
you are, and and I it it wasdefinitely an interesting way to
grow up.
And I'm not saying I I hadparents who love me and I'm
really blessed to have those,you know, to have them in my
life.
But it was a hard for me.
SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
That is understandable.
Gosh, how did that experiencedress um as a child?
And then you're talking aboutyour experience with your your
first sale with a little oldwoman.
Like, how did that start toshape how you work with families
now and today?
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
Once I started getting into helping people buy
apartments, buy homes, it was adifferent level of getting to
know someone.
It wasn't like, oh, you need arental two weeks from now.
Let's go do this.
That's very transactional.
SPEAKER_01 (05:08):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:08):
But what I started to realize is that with people
and getting to know them, it wasmore about a transition.
And people are looking to dosomething more in their lives.
And so their home is you know,the way I describe it in the
book, your home is a launch padfor whatever you're trying to
do.
Finding the home and like movingin, that's not the end.
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It's the beginning.
Right.
So I'm helping people set theirlife up so that they can go and
live it.
And so it just became bigger andmore uh I it felt like more and
more of a sacred calling.
If that makes sense.
Like it's I know that realestate agents have these
terrible reputations.
Oh, you know, like it's likeyou're one step above like a
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tow, a tow truck driver, youknow, like something like that.
And and at the same time, Irealized that actually it's
something much, much bigger.
That if you treat yourself likesomebody that you're just trying
to get deals done, then guesswhat?
You're that person that's onestep up from the truck driver,
the tow truck driver.
But if you treat yourself likeI'm doing something uh really,
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really fundamentally importantfor my clients, it changes the
game completely.
And so over time it started toopen my eyes as to what I could
really help people do.
And I've seen I've had clients,it's New York.
So we see people who are up tobig stuff.
They moved to New York, peoplewriting best-selling books and
people launching massivecompanies and people who are
like leaders in theirindustries.
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And it's it's it is a joy tomeet them at their most stressed
and their most worried andfrustrated and anxious.
You know, they're human beingslike everybody else.
Everybody goes through this, andit's it is a stressful
transition.
And to get to hold them,metaphorically speaking, you
know, figuratively speaking,it's been um, you know, over
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time it becomes more and moreclear what is I'm doing.
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Yeah.
That is that is powerful.
Yeah.
And you I think about it now.
Think about just me and myfamily and our process of buying
a home.
We purchased our home like rightafter, you know, almost the the
end of the pandemic.
And things start, you know,people start getting back,
started to get back into thegroove.
And it was very stressful.
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Very stressful.
It's a lot.
And it's important to have, likeyou said, those real estate
agents out there that trulyunderstand like what it is to be
in that position.
Um, and understand like what theimportance of home is, not only
just for that family and youknow, really for their future.
Um, so I want to dig into thebook a little more, The Pursuit
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of Home.
Um, what led you to to writethis book?
What inspired you truly to writeit?
SPEAKER_02 (07:49):
Well, it started by just a desire to write down all
of the stories of of all of thecrazy things.
If you can imagine that New Yorkis a lot of things on steroids,
and real estate is definitelyone of these things that's it's
people want to think of it ashyper competitive.
It's on TV and all this.
For me, it's just I'm helpingpeople do their thing, but the
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stories are crazy.
And I just started writing them.
And then about three years ago,I was at a real estate
conference.
I was jet lagged, I was up inthe middle of the night, and I
was listening to a conversationbetween an interview with a this
is like an old interview, likelate 80s, between a guy named
Bill Moyers, who actually justpassed away, and an author and a
and a really deep thinker namedJoseph Campbell, who wrote a the
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sort of the book about what'scalled the hero's journey.
All the myths, all the storiesof every culture in the world
has this story.
And it shows, how do we know itnow?
It shows up in Disney movies, itshows up in Star Wars.
It's that that young person whohas all these skills.
It's Moana, you know, like she'sgifted and she doesn't know it
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and she's going through thiswhole process.
And at the end, she comes intoher power.
And it occurred to me that thehome buying journey is a hero's
journey.
You go into it and you gothrough this emotional journey
that, and by the way, everyhomebuyer goes through some
version of this and no one talksabout it.
SPEAKER_00 (09:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (09:15):
And so what I live it.
And so it occurred to me, wait aminute, if everybody goes
through this, and 65% ofAmericans own their homes, Evan.
So it's like the most commonemotional, spiritual journey
that people take.
More people buy a home thanmaybe go to church.
You know what I mean?
So I looked around.
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Surely somebody's talking aboutthis.
And I could not find a book thatreally talked about it.
So I said, well, I'm gonna writethis book.
And it really felt like acalling to talk about what it is
people actually go through stepby step by step, and how what's
what kind of a roadmap, whatkind of a guide can I give them
so that they have a betterexperience?
SPEAKER_00 (09:55):
Yes, yeah.
And I think you bring up a greatpoint that, you know, a lot of
us go through this and we're nottalking to each other about it,
you know.
And I think, especially on thispodcast, I focus a lot on
helping people understand, like,hey, you're not alone in this
journey.
You're not the only one thinkingthese thoughts.
Maybe we have some somedifferences, obviously, you
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know, in our journeys.
All of our journeys aredifferent, but there are spots
where you can really connectwith someone and say, like you
too.
Like, I'm, you know, I'm not theonly one dealing with this.
So I would love for you to sharewhat is it specifically in your
book that you want people towalk away from with?
(10:36):
I know you talked about, youknow, it's the roadmap, right?
Is there anything else specificthat you want them to walk away
with?
SPEAKER_02 (10:42):
Yeah, the the biggest thing is that first the
book, the tone, it's veryencouraging.
You know, this is this isn'tmeant to scare people away.
It's actually meant to say,look, you can do this and you
can have a better outcome at theend.
So ever the takeaway is you canempower yourself at each step of
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this journey.
And here's how you do it.
You know, the premise is it'sreally hard to get off that
couch.
It's really hard to like getinto action.
You need support.
You're saying that you're notalone.
You don't have to go throughthis alone, and you're really
not going to be alone anyway.
So here's how you get to knowyourself a little bit better.
What's your communication style?
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How do you choose an agent towork with?
You know, the stat, which isthat so many people are unhappy,
but 70% of 71% of home buyershire the first agent that they
meet.
That is a crazy stat.
People spend more time planningtheir weekend vacation than they
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do planning, you know, hiringthe person that's going to make
such a massive impact in theirlife.
So if there's any one takeaway,it's like, look, you have the
power to be a little moreintentional, prepare a little
bit more.
And as scary as it is, itdoesn't have to be scary.
You just have to, here's what,here's the whole process, you
know, and step by step so thatyou don't have to be full of all
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of this doubt and anxiety andyou can go in ready for what may
show up for you.
SPEAKER_00 (12:13):
Yeah.
Jeez, yeah.
That perspective, especially theyou you almost have to have like
an interview process with.
SPEAKER_02 (12:22):
And I lay it out in the book.
I lay it out.
Like, here are the questions youask.
Does this person how do you feelwhen you interview with this
person?
Do you feel like they're seeingyou and hearing you and
understanding what you're goingthrough?
And of course, because almostthree quarters of home buyers
are a couple.
So often you have two differentcommunication styles.
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You have to have an agent whocan speak both languages, right?
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (12:47):
And so I'm not saying you have to have any,
like I've been doing this formore than two, 20 years.
I'm not saying you have to havea 20-year-old vet.
There are plenty of amazingagents.
I've interviewed them for thebook and for my podcast that
they're incredible.
They've been doing this for fouryears.
They just have a gift.
So it's it's really aboutchoosing somebody that works for
you.
It's not about like, I don'thave the answer.
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You are in the whole book.
It's like you have the knowledgeinside of you.
We just have to get it out.
And so there's a lot of there'sa lot of tips about how to find
the answers within yourself.
SPEAKER_00 (13:21):
Wow.
Yes.
I love that.
I love that.
So I want to switch, I want toswitch gears a little bit
because because I have you, andI know there are a lot of moms
and women who live to listen tothe podcast and they have dreams
of like building a business andreally don't know where to
start.
And obviously, Scott, you havebuilt a very successful real
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estate business in New York.
What do you think really setsyour people first approach apart
from everyone else?
SPEAKER_02 (13:52):
Okay.
Well, there's there are a coupleof things in there that I'd want
to address.
One, I end up working with a lotof, and I have worked with lots
of women who are buying homes ontheir own.
And buying a home is really anentrepreneurial venture because
there's no, you have to build avision of what it is that you
would love.
And so, you know, what sets meapart, you talked about people
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first.
It's very much a vision-drivenprocess that I'm focused on the
people and getting to know themand allowing for more intuition
to come into the process.
Yes, we know what we're doing.
We're amazing negotiators.
We've sold$2 billion of realestate.
So I mean, it's it's the proofis there and the system works.
unknown (14:36):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (14:36):
And because so many people are unhappy with the
process, I've like, what's theharm?
What's the downside to trying itin in the way that we recommend?
Which is build a vision first,build a first draft of your
vision, and then slowly get toknow better and better through
our method of how that is goingto clarify your vision.
You're building towardssomething.
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And so what separates us, Ithink, is our ability to engage
with the people in front of us,in front of us.
And I there's a four-stepprocess that I call the magnetic
method.
I think it would work forbuilding any business, anything
else.
It's about how do you activatethat burning desire for home?
Activate.
That's step one.
Two, aligning.
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It's called align, align all theparties, get everybody rowing in
the same direction.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (15:23):
If you're building a business, you know, you don't
need to be hanging out with thepeople who aren't supporting
you.
You know who the people who areyour biggest fans, and you know
the people that are like, huh,what is she doing?
Like, like kind of judgingsilently.
You know, though you want tofind your fans.
You want to find your fan baseto support you.
And so aligning everybody,getting everybody rowing in the
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same direction is huge, whetheryou're buying a house or whether
you're building a business.
And then the third step isamplify.
We're really focused on likeprovoking the right answers,
clarifying your vision, doingall these things so like you get
clearer and clearer on what itis you're doing.
I think a lot of people getscared when they have some
setbacks growing a business.
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I've had so many setbacks, mygosh, you know, over the years,
and people leaving the team anddeals falling apart, you name
it.
You know, we've gone through it,but that's not the point, the
time when you give up.
It's like, okay, what is thereto be learned?
And it's like just continuing onbecause it you're getting clear
all the time about what you do,what you do well.
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And then ultimately the fourthstep is attract.
That's why we call it themagnetic method, because the
clearer your vision, the morethe answers and more the the
resources show up for you.
Yeah.
And I think it's it's one ofthose things that to tell a
super smart, super successfulperson that we're going to build
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a vision and then your home isgoing to be delivered to you,
that sounds crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (16:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
A little bit.
SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
A little bit.
Yeah, but trust the process.
SPEAKER_02 (16:54):
Go talk to every talented real estate agent out
there, and they will tell youthe same thing.
We got clear, we got clear,there was nothing available, but
all of a sudden we got a muchbetter sense of what they were
looking for, and they the houseshowed up the next day again and
again and again.
So maybe it sounds a littlewoo-woo, maybe it sounds a
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little out there, but I it's it,I see it in my business and it
works.
And it's a much the more thatthe client, the home buyer, can
focus on what is important tothem and let us just hold that
space for them, yeah, the betterthe outcome.
SPEAKER_00 (17:33):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (17:34):
And instead of fighting back and fighting, it's
like allow it to come to you.
You know, you got to go see alot of property in business.
You got to take a lot of action.
You got to kiss a lot of frogs,you know, all you got to do the
work, but you can do it with theknowing, like, okay, I've got my
vision.
I know what I'm going for.
I know what I'm going for.
Some days are good, some daysyou can't see what the progress.
unknown (17:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:55):
So a long answer to a short question.
SPEAKER_00 (17:58):
Yes.
No, that was that was perfect,especially in trusting the
process.
A lot of the times you, I mean,all the time, really, you don't
see the end result until you getthere, right?
You really have to just keeptrusting and staying curious.
So I want to chat to a lot ofthe women in this community.
They are in those seasons oftransition, right?
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They're either their newmothers, maybe they're going
through a divorce, maybe theyare working on, you know,
building their family, goingthrough healing journeys.
Can you give them some ways,some practices of your own that
help them stay grounded duringthose big life shifts,
especially when they are lookingfor a home?
SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
Wow.
I mean, I feel honored thatyou'd ask the question.
Yeah.
You know, I I for me, beginningof the day before the house, I
have three kids.
I have an amazing wife.
She's incredible.
And I'm really nothing workswithout our partnership.
But that early morning timewhere I can kind of sit in more
of a quiet house and just begrateful for all that I all that
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I have that I've gotten tobuild.
And I like to say I likeco-created it with God.
And to be able to give yourselfthat gift every day um, I think
is a really important practice,and that can be a walk.
And, you know, I I don't claimthat everybody's got, you know,
a perfect situation like that,but you can do things like not
check your email for the firsthour of your day.
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You know, that's something youcan choose to do.
That, you know, your check yourto-do list is your to-do list,
and that email is somebodyelse's to do list.
So like don't get sucked intoyour day before.
I think those are easy,actionable things you can do.
Like I know kids go to bed, youknow.
I I my my kids are youngest asnine, but I still remember how
crazy it gets at night.
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But like, yeah, don't watch asmuch TV.
You can go to bed a tiny bitearlier and get up a little
earlier.
Like it it's you're not givingup uh your life, you know.
I think there's a lot of thingsyou can do to manage your your
own mindset.
And I tell people all the time,certainly during the home
search, yes, stop watching thenews.
Oof.
Stop watching the news.
(20:05):
Yeah.
Stop watching the news.
You know what?
Mortgage rates and inventory andall this other stuff that's
like, oh, you know, and andwhoever gets elected and
whoever's doing what, andwhatever political side of the,
you know, whatever side of thefence you think you're on, it
doesn't matter.
You're trying to move forward inyour life.
Yes.
You know?
Like, if you just stay close toyour vision for what you're
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trying to do and keep talking.
The thing that I think women dobetter than men by a long shot
is communication.
I think women run businesses ina month.
And I've seen my operationsperson, her name is Karen.
She's incredible and like justthe communication line needs to
stay open.
So finding a home, just to shiftit to the home piece, you have
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to be willing to share yourvision with other people.
Not everybody, not thatjudgmental cousin, not the aunt
that's like thinking that you'retoo cool.
And you're like, oh, you know,when you get your bonus and
you're saving money, don't goand talk to the person who's
gonna ruin your good mood.
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_00 (21:08):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (21:09):
Yeah, I gotta but share the vision with people,
share your vision with thepeople who are gonna support you
because the more you talk aboutit, the more you're you get more
clear about it.
And then you can share it withyour real estate agent and you
can just put it out there in theworld.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
Guess what?
It's true of building yourbusiness.
If you don't communicate itbecause you're afraid, well,
what if it doesn't play out thatway?
What if it doesn't?
What if it doesn't?
unknown (21:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:36):
Well, if it's not you're not gonna die.
I mean, how many like I I justwrote this book.
Scariest process ever.
I've got this thing that I'vebeen writing, and then all of a
sudden I have to share it withwith agents and like try to sell
it, you know, get the book toget it to a publisher, and you
hear no a ton.
And some agents are like, well,why don't you write the book
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about like make it a tell all?
Go make it like a gossipy thing.
I'm like, that would be thefurthest thing I ever want to
do.
I love my clients and I want tohonor them, but you have to put
it out there.
You have to be willing to knowI'm gonna get some rejection in
this, and things aren't gonna gohow I expect.
But the more you share it, it'samazing how much shows up to
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help you.
You know, just like the universewants you to have that home you
love.
The universe wants to see youhave a successful business.
And I mean, I know it's like,you know, you can sort of hear
like, oh, you know, like thedoubts and fears and whatever.
And it makes sense.
You know, it's not, it's not a astraight line.
It's usually like crazy.
But the more you communicate,the less you, you know, can be
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afraid.
It's like you you just talkabout it and then it's out of
your body.
And I think that's you know,that's a I think something that
I have to constantly remindmyself of to stay in
communication with people.
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
That is true.
That is true.
And I know I talk a lot aboutthis on the podcast about the
mental load of moms and howconstantly trying to keep all of
that, you know, in your head.
Sometimes you have to you haveto let it out, especially in the
home buying process.
SPEAKER_02 (23:11):
Yeah.
Can I can I say something here?
Yes.
You know, I right.
I I'm very lucky.
Um, because I I'm more of thevisionary person in my in our in
our family.
My wife is more of theoperations.
And by the way, you know, so itit's there's a whole day to do
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with kids and everything else.
I mean, it's it's a whole day,and I you know, I think, you
know, I think it's incrediblehow much people get done in
their day.
So it's if you if it's too muchfor one person, that's what the
agent is for.
You know, that's you have tobuild that team of people who
you trust.
So I you don't have to do it onyour own.
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Gives give you permission tosay, I'm not good at this one
thing.
I'm gonna find a person to doit.
And that's real estate agentsget paid to find you a home.
That's what they do.
And if they care first, youknow, they really care about
you, they're gonna do it in away that feels like you're not
being sold something.
(24:15):
Yes.
And so I think you just have toyou have to trust your own gut
about who to surround yourselfwith, but do surround yourself
with people who are gonna helpmove things forward.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Yes.
Yeah.
I love that, Scott.
Yeah, thank you for sharing.
So, as a father and soon-to-bepublish author, I love seeing, I
love seeing the book in the backthere.
What kind of legacy are youhoping to build?
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
This is, you know, it's one of these things.
When I was speaking to my uhpublisher, Matt Holt about the
book coming out, he's like,Well, why did you write this
book?
You know, are you trying to growyour business?
You're trying to make, you know,make a bunch of money or
whatever.
And I was like, look, I want tomake an impact.
I want to change theconversation around home buying.
Because it's gotten very muchabout the transaction and then
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on TV, it's all about, you know,the, you know, the especially in
New York.
And I know all of these agents.
I mean, I I rub elbows with allof these folks all the time.
And they're great agents, butwhat they do on TV has nothing
to do with what they do in reallife.
And so if I can change theconversation back to this is
what people actually go through,this is what you're gonna go
(25:20):
through, and turn it into a muchbecause it's it's on the top
five most stressful thingspeople put themselves through.
You know, it's right up therewith divorce, like you were
talking about, or losing a lovedone, or moving as a concept is
really stressful.
So if if you have a betterhandle on what you're gonna go
through, you're gonna have abetter experience, you're gonna
have a less stressfulexperience, you might even have
(25:42):
a fun experience.
And so I really think my ifthere's a legacy I want to
leave, it's that thisconversation needs to change.
And I think this book can reallyhelp reframe the way people
think about home buying.
And I will just add one little,you know, tie on to that, which
is to say that there's been alot of talk about, oh, the
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American dream is dead and youknow what people want to achieve
in their life and build, youknow, that it's not possible
anymore.
And I want to change thatconversation too.
I think that people need to hearthat their dreams are valuable,
that they are valuable, thatthey can pursue whatever they
want to pursue, and that a homeisn't separate from that
(26:29):
journey.
It's actually a huge componentof what they're trying to do.
And that if they pursue findinga home with the same attitude of
like openness and really tryingto be carry their lives and grow
their lives, the house is gonnahelp them.
It's gonna help build community.
It gives them the the foundationto give back.
(26:49):
I mean, I talk a lot about inthe last chapter of the book
about people who start Biblestudies in their homes.
And that just turns into thiswhole philanthropy and people
who start their businesses undertheir roof and it turns into
something huge.
You know, the home is where itstarts.
Yeah.
And um, and I think that if weget any of that sort of more out
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into the world, I think it'll bea wonderful outcome.
SPEAKER_00 (27:13):
Yes.
Absolutely.
Goodness.
All right.
Well, Scott, thank you so muchfor sharing with your heart
today and sharing your storywith us.
But before we go, can you letour listeners know where they
can connect it with you, followyour work, and really stay
updated on the pursuit of home.
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Okay.
They can go topursueyourhome.com if they want
to look up all the resources forthe book.
They want to pre-order the book,which is um, depending on when
this comes out, it'll either bestill in pre-order or they can
buy the book there.
And if they want to follow me onsocials, I'm very active on
LinkedIn and Instagram.
So Scotty Harris with an IE,they can find me on Instagram
(27:55):
and on LinkedIn, they can lookme up.
And I talk a lot about more ofthe nuts and bolts of what it
means.
It's kind of a heart-centered,business-focused more voice
there.
But those, those are easy placesto to engage.
We can talk.
I want to talk to home buyers.
I want to, wherever they are inthe country, you know, I
interview people for my podcastand we we try to, it's almost
(28:19):
like a therapy session.
It's it's like, hey, what areyou going through?
What are you looking for?
And maybe there's some nugget inthere, something we can get in
and like shift, and then thewhole process goes better.
SPEAKER_00 (28:29):
Yeah, I love that.
Gosh.
Well, I hope, listeners today,that this episode reminded you
that home is more than just fourwalls.
It's really honestly all how wecare for ourselves, how we show
up for others, and how we cancontinue to write our stories
one choice at a time.
So until next time, again, thankyou, Scott.
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Just keep growing, keep healing,and keep thriving.
Thank you so much for listening,love.
If anything in today's episoderesonated with you, share it
with your bestie or share it onsocial media and tag me so we
can chat about it.
As always, sending you light andlove, and remember, you are
worthy, you are enough, and youdeserve to thrive.
Hey love, I'm Ebony and welcome to Thrive Like a
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On this podcast, we're scaredfor our truth, but that fear is
what fuels us to truly live init.
You're in the right place if youfeel like you're stuck in
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I'll share resources and tools Iuse daily to help you in your
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The journey may not be easy, butyou won't have to face it alone.
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on a mission to build a lifeI've always dreamed of, but
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So, love, if you're ready tobelieve in what's possible,
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let's ling arms and thrivetogether.
Hey loves and welcome back toanother episode of the Thrive
Like a Funner Podcast.
Of course, I'm your host, Ebony,and today I am welcoming a guest
(01:10):
on With Us whose journey y'allis truly rooted in something
that every one of us is familiarwith, and that's home.
Scott Harris, he is a top realestate agent in New York City
with over$1.5 billion in sales.
But y'all, what really makes hisstory unique is not just the
success, it is the heart behindit.
(01:31):
It is growing up as a child ofdivorce and constantly moving.
Scott really developed a deepunderstanding of how where we
live truly shapes how we feel.
And he's author, also the authorof an upcoming book called The
Pursuit of Home, which reallydigs deep and explores into what
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home really means, not justphysically, but also emotionally
and spiritually.
And so, Scott, welcome to theshow.
I'm glad you're here andhonestly honored for you to just
be able to share your story withour listeners today.
And I really want to just startwith the beginning of your story
because, you know, in usmeeting, um, you shared with me
(02:16):
how you were constantly movingbetween your homes um during
your childhood.
So can you just start withsharing just what that
experience was like and what itreally taught you about people?
SPEAKER_02 (02:29):
Well, first thanks, Ebony, for having me on.
It's it's great to be here andto talk about the book and and
to talk about how I I pouredmyself into the book and it
started really.
Uh I'll start in the middle andthen go back.
When I first got into realestate in New York, I was in the
rental side of things, which isvery it's a it's a huge rental
(02:53):
market in New York, but it feltlike a hustle.
I worked every day, grinding,grinding, grinding, and I was
really good at it, but it feltvery emotionally unsatisfying.
It was money, but there wasthere was no meaning, right?
And I started into the salesside of things and I closed a
sale for a a little old lady, alittle tiny studio apartment.
(03:16):
She was this really wonderfulItalian woman, classy and great.
And she she had gotten divorcedand moved to New York.
I helped her find this highfloor apartment.
She didn't need it to be big,but she she looked out onto the
river and it was reallysatisfying.
And all of a sudden, I wasrealizing, wait a minute, this
is something different.
SPEAKER_00 (03:35):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (03:36):
And as I spent more time exploring that, I started
to realize that it was helpingother people find homes was
doing something for meemotionally.
And I started thinking about mychildhood.
So kind of going back to yourquestion, was that um my parents
got divorced when I was eight,which was a really, for me, a
very kind of impressional.
I was a really impressionable,precocious kid.
(03:57):
And it really knocked me for aloop.
And I went back and forth everyweek or every two weeks between
my parents.
At first, it was like a few daysat a time, then it grew to a
week in week on, week off.
And then it was two weeks, twoweeks in, and only when I was in
college did I stop moving.
Did I stay in one place for morethan you know, two weeks at a
(04:18):
time?
And that was really I didn'tknow where I was.
You know, you wake up sometimes,you don't know where you are,
you are, and and I it it wasdefinitely an interesting way to
grow up.
And I'm not saying I I hadparents who love me and I'm
really blessed to have those,you know, to have them in my
life.
But it was a hard for me.
SPEAKER_00 (04:36):
That is understandable.
Gosh, how did that experiencedress um as a child?
And then you're talking aboutyour experience with your your
first sale with a little oldwoman.
Like, how did that start toshape how you work with families
now and today?
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
Once I started getting into helping people buy
apartments, buy homes, it was adifferent level of getting to
know someone.
It wasn't like, oh, you need arental two weeks from now.
Let's go do this.
That's very transactional.
SPEAKER_01 (05:08):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:08):
But what I started to realize is that with people
and getting to know them, it wasmore about a transition.
And people are looking to dosomething more in their lives.
And so their home is you know,the way I describe it in the
book, your home is a launch padfor whatever you're trying to
do.
Finding the home and like movingin, that's not the end.
(05:30):
It's the beginning.
Right.
So I'm helping people set theirlife up so that they can go and
live it.
And so it just became bigger andmore uh I it felt like more and
more of a sacred calling.
If that makes sense.
Like it's I know that realestate agents have these
terrible reputations.
Oh, you know, like it's likeyou're one step above like a
(05:51):
tow, a tow truck driver, youknow, like something like that.
And and at the same time, Irealized that actually it's
something much, much bigger.
That if you treat yourself likesomebody that you're just trying
to get deals done, then guesswhat?
You're that person that's onestep up from the truck driver,
the tow truck driver.
But if you treat yourself likeI'm doing something uh really,
(06:13):
really fundamentally importantfor my clients, it changes the
game completely.
And so over time it started toopen my eyes as to what I could
really help people do.
And I've seen I've had clients,it's New York.
So we see people who are up tobig stuff.
They moved to New York, peoplewriting best-selling books and
people launching massivecompanies and people who are
like leaders in theirindustries.
(06:34):
And it's it's it is a joy tomeet them at their most stressed
and their most worried andfrustrated and anxious.
You know, they're human beingslike everybody else.
Everybody goes through this, andit's it is a stressful
transition.
And to get to hold them,metaphorically speaking, you
know, figuratively speaking,it's been um, you know, over
(06:56):
time it becomes more and moreclear what is I'm doing.
SPEAKER_00 (07:00):
Yeah.
That is that is powerful.
Yeah.
And you I think about it now.
Think about just me and myfamily and our process of buying
a home.
We purchased our home like rightafter, you know, almost the the
end of the pandemic.
And things start, you know,people start getting back,
started to get back into thegroove.
And it was very stressful.
(07:21):
Very stressful.
It's a lot.
And it's important to have, likeyou said, those real estate
agents out there that trulyunderstand like what it is to be
in that position.
Um, and understand like what theimportance of home is, not only
just for that family and youknow, really for their future.
Um, so I want to dig into thebook a little more, The Pursuit
(07:42):
of Home.
Um, what led you to to writethis book?
What inspired you truly to writeit?
SPEAKER_02 (07:49):
Well, it started by just a desire to write down all
of the stories of of all of thecrazy things.
If you can imagine that New Yorkis a lot of things on steroids,
and real estate is definitelyone of these things that's it's
people want to think of it ashyper competitive.
It's on TV and all this.
For me, it's just I'm helpingpeople do their thing, but the
(08:12):
stories are crazy.
And I just started writing them.
And then about three years ago,I was at a real estate
conference.
I was jet lagged, I was up inthe middle of the night, and I
was listening to a conversationbetween an interview with a this
is like an old interview, likelate 80s, between a guy named
Bill Moyers, who actually justpassed away, and an author and a
and a really deep thinker namedJoseph Campbell, who wrote a the
(08:35):
sort of the book about what'scalled the hero's journey.
All the myths, all the storiesof every culture in the world
has this story.
And it shows, how do we know itnow?
It shows up in Disney movies, itshows up in Star Wars.
It's that that young person whohas all these skills.
It's Moana, you know, like she'sgifted and she doesn't know it
(08:56):
and she's going through thiswhole process.
And at the end, she comes intoher power.
And it occurred to me that thehome buying journey is a hero's
journey.
You go into it and you gothrough this emotional journey
that, and by the way, everyhomebuyer goes through some
version of this and no one talksabout it.
SPEAKER_00 (09:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (09:15):
And so what I live it.
And so it occurred to me, wait aminute, if everybody goes
through this, and 65% ofAmericans own their homes, Evan.
So it's like the most commonemotional, spiritual journey
that people take.
More people buy a home thanmaybe go to church.
You know what I mean?
So I looked around.
(09:35):
Surely somebody's talking aboutthis.
And I could not find a book thatreally talked about it.
So I said, well, I'm gonna writethis book.
And it really felt like acalling to talk about what it is
people actually go through stepby step by step, and how what's
what kind of a roadmap, whatkind of a guide can I give them
so that they have a betterexperience?
SPEAKER_00 (09:55):
Yes, yeah.
And I think you bring up a greatpoint that, you know, a lot of
us go through this and we're nottalking to each other about it,
you know.
And I think, especially on thispodcast, I focus a lot on
helping people understand, like,hey, you're not alone in this
journey.
You're not the only one thinkingthese thoughts.
Maybe we have some somedifferences, obviously, you
(10:15):
know, in our journeys.
All of our journeys aredifferent, but there are spots
where you can really connectwith someone and say, like you
too.
Like, I'm, you know, I'm not theonly one dealing with this.
So I would love for you to sharewhat is it specifically in your
book that you want people towalk away from with?
(10:36):
I know you talked about, youknow, it's the roadmap, right?
Is there anything else specificthat you want them to walk away
with?
SPEAKER_02 (10:42):
Yeah, the the biggest thing is that first the
book, the tone, it's veryencouraging.
You know, this is this isn'tmeant to scare people away.
It's actually meant to say,look, you can do this and you
can have a better outcome at theend.
So ever the takeaway is you canempower yourself at each step of
(11:04):
this journey.
And here's how you do it.
You know, the premise is it'sreally hard to get off that
couch.
It's really hard to like getinto action.
You need support.
You're saying that you're notalone.
You don't have to go throughthis alone, and you're really
not going to be alone anyway.
So here's how you get to knowyourself a little bit better.
What's your communication style?
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How do you choose an agent towork with?
You know, the stat, which isthat so many people are unhappy,
but 70% of 71% of home buyershire the first agent that they
meet.
That is a crazy stat.
People spend more time planningtheir weekend vacation than they
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do planning, you know, hiringthe person that's going to make
such a massive impact in theirlife.
So if there's any one takeaway,it's like, look, you have the
power to be a little moreintentional, prepare a little
bit more.
And as scary as it is, itdoesn't have to be scary.
You just have to, here's what,here's the whole process, you
know, and step by step so thatyou don't have to be full of all
(12:06):
of this doubt and anxiety andyou can go in ready for what may
show up for you.
SPEAKER_00 (12:13):
Yeah.
Jeez, yeah.
That perspective, especially theyou you almost have to have like
an interview process with.
SPEAKER_02 (12:22):
And I lay it out in the book.
I lay it out.
Like, here are the questions youask.
Does this person how do you feelwhen you interview with this
person?
Do you feel like they're seeingyou and hearing you and
understanding what you're goingthrough?
And of course, because almostthree quarters of home buyers
are a couple.
So often you have two differentcommunication styles.
(12:43):
You have to have an agent whocan speak both languages, right?
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (12:47):
And so I'm not saying you have to have any,
like I've been doing this formore than two, 20 years.
I'm not saying you have to havea 20-year-old vet.
There are plenty of amazingagents.
I've interviewed them for thebook and for my podcast that
they're incredible.
They've been doing this for fouryears.
They just have a gift.
So it's it's really aboutchoosing somebody that works for
you.
It's not about like, I don'thave the answer.
(13:09):
You are in the whole book.
It's like you have the knowledgeinside of you.
We just have to get it out.
And so there's a lot of there'sa lot of tips about how to find
the answers within yourself.
SPEAKER_00 (13:21):
Wow.
Yes.
I love that.
I love that.
So I want to switch, I want toswitch gears a little bit
because because I have you, andI know there are a lot of moms
and women who live to listen tothe podcast and they have dreams
of like building a business andreally don't know where to
start.
And obviously, Scott, you havebuilt a very successful real
(13:44):
estate business in New York.
What do you think really setsyour people first approach apart
from everyone else?
SPEAKER_02 (13:52):
Okay.
Well, there's there are a coupleof things in there that I'd want
to address.
One, I end up working with a lotof, and I have worked with lots
of women who are buying homes ontheir own.
And buying a home is really anentrepreneurial venture because
there's no, you have to build avision of what it is that you
would love.
And so, you know, what sets meapart, you talked about people
(14:15):
first.
It's very much a vision-drivenprocess that I'm focused on the
people and getting to know themand allowing for more intuition
to come into the process.
Yes, we know what we're doing.
We're amazing negotiators.
We've sold$2 billion of realestate.
So I mean, it's it's the proofis there and the system works.
unknown (14:36):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (14:36):
And because so many people are unhappy with the
process, I've like, what's theharm?
What's the downside to trying itin in the way that we recommend?
Which is build a vision first,build a first draft of your
vision, and then slowly get toknow better and better through
our method of how that is goingto clarify your vision.
You're building towardssomething.
(14:58):
And so what separates us, Ithink, is our ability to engage
with the people in front of us,in front of us.
And I there's a four-stepprocess that I call the magnetic
method.
I think it would work forbuilding any business, anything
else.
It's about how do you activatethat burning desire for home?
Activate.
That's step one.
Two, aligning.
(15:18):
It's called align, align all theparties, get everybody rowing in
the same direction.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (15:23):
If you're building a business, you know, you don't
need to be hanging out with thepeople who aren't supporting
you.
You know who the people who areyour biggest fans, and you know
the people that are like, huh,what is she doing?
Like, like kind of judgingsilently.
You know, though you want tofind your fans.
You want to find your fan baseto support you.
And so aligning everybody,getting everybody rowing in the
(15:44):
same direction is huge, whetheryou're buying a house or whether
you're building a business.
And then the third step isamplify.
We're really focused on likeprovoking the right answers,
clarifying your vision, doingall these things so like you get
clearer and clearer on what itis you're doing.
I think a lot of people getscared when they have some
setbacks growing a business.
(16:05):
I've had so many setbacks, mygosh, you know, over the years,
and people leaving the team anddeals falling apart, you name
it.
You know, we've gone through it,but that's not the point, the
time when you give up.
It's like, okay, what is thereto be learned?
And it's like just continuing onbecause it you're getting clear
all the time about what you do,what you do well.
(16:26):
And then ultimately the fourthstep is attract.
That's why we call it themagnetic method, because the
clearer your vision, the morethe answers and more the the
resources show up for you.
Yeah.
And I think it's it's one ofthose things that to tell a
super smart, super successfulperson that we're going to build
(16:46):
a vision and then your home isgoing to be delivered to you,
that sounds crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (16:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (16:51):
A little bit.
SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
A little bit.
Yeah, but trust the process.
SPEAKER_02 (16:54):
Go talk to every talented real estate agent out
there, and they will tell youthe same thing.
We got clear, we got clear,there was nothing available, but
all of a sudden we got a muchbetter sense of what they were
looking for, and they the houseshowed up the next day again and
again and again.
So maybe it sounds a littlewoo-woo, maybe it sounds a
(17:16):
little out there, but I it's it,I see it in my business and it
works.
And it's a much the more thatthe client, the home buyer, can
focus on what is important tothem and let us just hold that
space for them, yeah, the betterthe outcome.
SPEAKER_00 (17:33):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (17:34):
And instead of fighting back and fighting, it's
like allow it to come to you.
You know, you got to go see alot of property in business.
You got to take a lot of action.
You got to kiss a lot of frogs,you know, all you got to do the
work, but you can do it with theknowing, like, okay, I've got my
vision.
I know what I'm going for.
I know what I'm going for.
Some days are good, some daysyou can't see what the progress.
unknown (17:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (17:55):
So a long answer to a short question.
SPEAKER_00 (17:58):
Yes.
No, that was that was perfect,especially in trusting the
process.
A lot of the times you, I mean,all the time, really, you don't
see the end result until you getthere, right?
You really have to just keeptrusting and staying curious.
So I want to chat to a lot ofthe women in this community.
They are in those seasons oftransition, right?
(18:18):
They're either their newmothers, maybe they're going
through a divorce, maybe theyare working on, you know,
building their family, goingthrough healing journeys.
Can you give them some ways,some practices of your own that
help them stay grounded duringthose big life shifts,
especially when they are lookingfor a home?
SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
Wow.
I mean, I feel honored thatyou'd ask the question.
Yeah.
You know, I I for me, beginningof the day before the house, I
have three kids.
I have an amazing wife.
She's incredible.
And I'm really nothing workswithout our partnership.
But that early morning timewhere I can kind of sit in more
of a quiet house and just begrateful for all that I all that
(19:02):
I have that I've gotten tobuild.
And I like to say I likeco-created it with God.
And to be able to give yourselfthat gift every day um, I think
is a really important practice,and that can be a walk.
And, you know, I I don't claimthat everybody's got, you know,
a perfect situation like that,but you can do things like not
check your email for the firsthour of your day.
(19:24):
You know, that's something youcan choose to do.
That, you know, your check yourto-do list is your to-do list,
and that email is somebodyelse's to do list.
So like don't get sucked intoyour day before.
I think those are easy,actionable things you can do.
Like I know kids go to bed, youknow.
I I my my kids are youngest asnine, but I still remember how
crazy it gets at night.
(19:45):
But like, yeah, don't watch asmuch TV.
You can go to bed a tiny bitearlier and get up a little
earlier.
Like it it's you're not givingup uh your life, you know.
I think there's a lot of thingsyou can do to manage your your
own mindset.
And I tell people all the time,certainly during the home
search, yes, stop watching thenews.
Oof.
Stop watching the news.
(20:05):
Yeah.
Stop watching the news.
You know what?
Mortgage rates and inventory andall this other stuff that's
like, oh, you know, and andwhoever gets elected and
whoever's doing what, andwhatever political side of the,
you know, whatever side of thefence you think you're on, it
doesn't matter.
You're trying to move forward inyour life.
Yes.
You know?
Like, if you just stay close toyour vision for what you're
(20:29):
trying to do and keep talking.
The thing that I think women dobetter than men by a long shot
is communication.
I think women run businesses ina month.
And I've seen my operationsperson, her name is Karen.
She's incredible and like justthe communication line needs to
stay open.
So finding a home, just to shiftit to the home piece, you have
(20:50):
to be willing to share yourvision with other people.
Not everybody, not thatjudgmental cousin, not the aunt
that's like thinking that you'retoo cool.
And you're like, oh, you know,when you get your bonus and
you're saving money, don't goand talk to the person who's
gonna ruin your good mood.
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_00 (21:08):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02 (21:09):
Yeah, I gotta but share the vision with people,
share your vision with thepeople who are gonna support you
because the more you talk aboutit, the more you're you get more
clear about it.
And then you can share it withyour real estate agent and you
can just put it out there in theworld.
SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
Yes.
SPEAKER_02 (21:24):
Guess what?
It's true of building yourbusiness.
If you don't communicate itbecause you're afraid, well,
what if it doesn't play out thatway?
What if it doesn't?
What if it doesn't?
unknown (21:36):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:36):
Well, if it's not you're not gonna die.
I mean, how many like I I justwrote this book.
Scariest process ever.
I've got this thing that I'vebeen writing, and then all of a
sudden I have to share it withwith agents and like try to sell
it, you know, get the book toget it to a publisher, and you
hear no a ton.
And some agents are like, well,why don't you write the book
(21:56):
about like make it a tell all?
Go make it like a gossipy thing.
I'm like, that would be thefurthest thing I ever want to
do.
I love my clients and I want tohonor them, but you have to put
it out there.
You have to be willing to knowI'm gonna get some rejection in
this, and things aren't gonna gohow I expect.
But the more you share it, it'samazing how much shows up to
(22:17):
help you.
You know, just like the universewants you to have that home you
love.
The universe wants to see youhave a successful business.
And I mean, I know it's like,you know, you can sort of hear
like, oh, you know, like thedoubts and fears and whatever.
And it makes sense.
You know, it's not, it's not a astraight line.
It's usually like crazy.
But the more you communicate,the less you, you know, can be
(22:41):
afraid.
It's like you you just talkabout it and then it's out of
your body.
And I think that's you know,that's a I think something that
I have to constantly remindmyself of to stay in
communication with people.
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
That is true.
That is true.
And I know I talk a lot aboutthis on the podcast about the
mental load of moms and howconstantly trying to keep all of
that, you know, in your head.
Sometimes you have to you haveto let it out, especially in the
home buying process.
SPEAKER_02 (23:11):
Yeah.
Can I can I say something here?
Yes.
You know, I right.
I I'm very lucky.
Um, because I I'm more of thevisionary person in my in our in
our family.
My wife is more of theoperations.
And by the way, you know, so itit's there's a whole day to do
(23:32):
with kids and everything else.
I mean, it's it's a whole day,and I you know, I think, you
know, I think it's incrediblehow much people get done in
their day.
So it's if you if it's too muchfor one person, that's what the
agent is for.
You know, that's you have tobuild that team of people who
you trust.
So I you don't have to do it onyour own.
(23:54):
Gives give you permission tosay, I'm not good at this one
thing.
I'm gonna find a person to doit.
And that's real estate agentsget paid to find you a home.
That's what they do.
And if they care first, youknow, they really care about
you, they're gonna do it in away that feels like you're not
being sold something.
(24:15):
Yes.
And so I think you just have toyou have to trust your own gut
about who to surround yourselfwith, but do surround yourself
with people who are gonna helpmove things forward.
SPEAKER_00 (24:23):
Yes.
Yeah.
I love that, Scott.
Yeah, thank you for sharing.
So, as a father and soon-to-bepublish author, I love seeing, I
love seeing the book in the backthere.
What kind of legacy are youhoping to build?
SPEAKER_02 (24:36):
This is, you know, it's one of these things.
When I was speaking to my uhpublisher, Matt Holt about the
book coming out, he's like,Well, why did you write this
book?
You know, are you trying to growyour business?
You're trying to make, you know,make a bunch of money or
whatever.
And I was like, look, I want tomake an impact.
I want to change theconversation around home buying.
Because it's gotten very muchabout the transaction and then
(25:00):
on TV, it's all about, you know,the, you know, the especially in
New York.
And I know all of these agents.
I mean, I I rub elbows with allof these folks all the time.
And they're great agents, butwhat they do on TV has nothing
to do with what they do in reallife.
And so if I can change theconversation back to this is
what people actually go through,this is what you're gonna go
(25:20):
through, and turn it into a muchbecause it's it's on the top
five most stressful thingspeople put themselves through.
You know, it's right up therewith divorce, like you were
talking about, or losing a lovedone, or moving as a concept is
really stressful.
So if if you have a betterhandle on what you're gonna go
through, you're gonna have abetter experience, you're gonna
have a less stressfulexperience, you might even have
(25:42):
a fun experience.
And so I really think my ifthere's a legacy I want to
leave, it's that thisconversation needs to change.
And I think this book can reallyhelp reframe the way people
think about home buying.
And I will just add one little,you know, tie on to that, which
is to say that there's been alot of talk about, oh, the
(26:06):
American dream is dead and youknow what people want to achieve
in their life and build, youknow, that it's not possible
anymore.
And I want to change thatconversation too.
I think that people need to hearthat their dreams are valuable,
that they are valuable, thatthey can pursue whatever they
want to pursue, and that a homeisn't separate from that
(26:29):
journey.
It's actually a huge componentof what they're trying to do.
And that if they pursue findinga home with the same attitude of
like openness and really tryingto be carry their lives and grow
their lives, the house is gonnahelp them.
It's gonna help build community.
It gives them the the foundationto give back.
(26:49):
I mean, I talk a lot about inthe last chapter of the book
about people who start Biblestudies in their homes.
And that just turns into thiswhole philanthropy and people
who start their businesses undertheir roof and it turns into
something huge.
You know, the home is where itstarts.
Yeah.
And um, and I think that if weget any of that sort of more out
(27:10):
into the world, I think it'll bea wonderful outcome.
SPEAKER_00 (27:13):
Yes.
Absolutely.
Goodness.
All right.
Well, Scott, thank you so muchfor sharing with your heart
today and sharing your storywith us.
But before we go, can you letour listeners know where they
can connect it with you, followyour work, and really stay
updated on the pursuit of home.
SPEAKER_02 (27:33):
Okay.
They can go topursueyourhome.com if they want
to look up all the resources forthe book.
They want to pre-order the book,which is um, depending on when
this comes out, it'll either bestill in pre-order or they can
buy the book there.
And if they want to follow me onsocials, I'm very active on
LinkedIn and Instagram.
So Scotty Harris with an IE,they can find me on Instagram
(27:55):
and on LinkedIn, they can lookme up.
And I talk a lot about more ofthe nuts and bolts of what it
means.
It's kind of a heart-centered,business-focused more voice
there.
But those, those are easy placesto to engage.
We can talk.
I want to talk to home buyers.
I want to, wherever they are inthe country, you know, I
interview people for my podcastand we we try to, it's almost
(28:19):
like a therapy session.
It's it's like, hey, what areyou going through?
What are you looking for?
And maybe there's some nugget inthere, something we can get in
and like shift, and then thewhole process goes better.
SPEAKER_00 (28:29):
Yeah, I love that.
Gosh.
Well, I hope, listeners today,that this episode reminded you
that home is more than just fourwalls.
It's really honestly all how wecare for ourselves, how we show
up for others, and how we cancontinue to write our stories
one choice at a time.
So until next time, again, thankyou, Scott.
(28:51):
Just keep growing, keep healing,and keep thriving.
Thank you so much for listening,love.
If anything in today's episoderesonated with you, share it
with your bestie or share it onsocial media and tag me so we
can chat about it.
As always, sending you light andlove, and remember, you are
worthy, you are enough, and youdeserve to thrive.
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