🎭🎶🕵️‍♂️Stage or Reality: Jay-Z & Diddy Allegations, Celebrity Shadows & Hip-Hop

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You, the viewer and listener, you go to work.
Let's be honest we all put onan act to a degree.
Let's be, honest, we definitelydo.
You have to play their game,you know.
Whether you want to and I'm notsaying me particular in this
situation or even furious inthis particular situation.
I'm just saying in general,right Over a general audience
here Anybody that goes to workevery day, definitely,

(00:23):
absolutely even management,right, they all play a role,
they all put on play a role.
What does that sound like toyou?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
pretending, aka acting.
You know I'm being a certainway, that I know I have to be
project myself in thisenvironment.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'll say okay to you know productive performing.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
There you go, I'm saying that's what it really is
at the end of the day.
You know that's to fuckingsummarize it even quicker.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I digress and welcome back to the conversation that

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You sure Is it waterproof.
I'm going to leave it there,bro.

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Bro, that shit's Growing down.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
That shit's growing down.
I should leave it in bro.

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Hold up.
Damn, where'd it go.
Anyway, bro Started there.
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Y'all, welcome back to anotherepisode of Timeless Talk.
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We have a couple topics we'regoing to discuss.
Obviously, last week we spokeabout the Dodgers.
This week's going to be aboutmore pressing issues, I guess.
I mean, they're not reallyaffecting our lives, but it's
kind of affecting someone's lifethat's involved with some other
individual who's I don't wantto say sus to have as a friend,
a very suspect to have as afriend.

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Now, actually, I'm gonnafucking say it, it's involving
someone who has a verysuspicious friends friend his
damn and that's Mr Jay-Z.
If you're living under a rockand you don't know what's going
on with Diddy, go watch ourepisode on Diddy.
We have an entire episode aboutwhat's going on with him.
But some new allegations arosewithin the last couple weeks or
so that this gentleman, jay-z,supposedly partook in some

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sexual harassment, if you wantto call it that, and some
assault charges or not charges.
Nothing's been charged yet.
Accusations, assaultaccusations put against uh, mr,
uh.
I want to say sean, sean combs,right, no, that's the fucking
sean carter.
Both their name is sean.
That's crazy.
I haven't called him diddy'sname.
Almost sean carter.
Uh, supposedly touched andviolated this girl.

(04:05):
Right, this woman in one of oneof uh diddy's name almost Sean
Carter supposedly touched andviolated this girl.
Right, this woman in one ofDiddy's Did.
They say it took place at afreak off.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was after the VMAs .

Speaker 1 (04:12):
That's right.
Yeah, it was at the VMAs, right?
This woman claimed that shetried to get into the VMAs.
Someone that worked with Jay-Zand Diddy supposedly saw her and
said that she fit the bill ofone of their after parties.
Quote, unquote freak offs.
You guys know this and forthose that don't know, jay-z and
Diddy are actually close.
They're like really goodfriends, really really close

(04:33):
friends.
So you know that motherfuckerpartook in some of these freak
offs, I'm sure before or afterfucking Beyonce bro.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
I'm not sure that makes a difference.
The fucking photos go back tolike like nine you know what I'm
saying Like like 2000,.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
bro, no, they do they go back?
You know it's crazy.
You've seen them too, right?
We'll put some of the photosfor you guys to see.
We'll put some of those up, Imean later on, I sense
especially on paper right,you're like well, these fools
really would be.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah and they all, and bro, all these fools came up
around the same time, early 90s, you know, mid 90s so, and both
of them are what they're they?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
they have billion dollar, uh, enterprises, you
know, I mean yeah, no, andthat's kind of where I wanted to
go with next, knowing thisinformation about them, right
first of all, I should ask youthis furious are you a fan?
Of jay-z's music.
Yeah, me too to a degree I likesome of his shit.
I ain't gonna lie blueprintthree right, he had some classic
fucking albums.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
The black album, that was a good one.
That's like one of the firstalbums I ever bought really, we
actually okay but out his his.
That's what it was.
First album reasonable doubt Isaid, the black album that's
also an album.
Right, that was good too, thatwas good too, but reasonable
doubt.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's the one I was trying to think of that's a
great album, bro.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, that's probably like like one of his best
albums, yeah and he has a couple.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Like you know.
There's some, there's somemusic that he's made.
In some tracks in particular,that kind of sit weird with me.
I ain't gonna lie, you know.
I mean there's a few for surelike I don't know what it is,
bro, it's catchy and I thinkthis one's on reasonable doubt.
Youbt, you can correct me ifI'm wrong, but the Evils, which
is like you know, they put thelittle I don't want to say the
Evils, is it the Evils?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh, okay, but it's spelled Devils Like.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Devils.
Yeah, so that particular song,bro, I've even shit, I've even
used the beat and the songitself to promo the Diddy
episode.
That's ironic as hell.
But if you go on our instagramyou'll see that I use the evils
to fucking, or devils oreveryone call it.
It's called the the evils,right, but anyway I use that.
I've used that track to promoteshit in the past.

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Funny, ironic, not on purposeintended situation there.
But anyway, that song.
Why I bring it up, I digressit's because, like, fuck, it
just is an eeriness to it, but Ilike it, I ain.
I ain't gonna lie to you, it'seerie.
Even some of the shit he saysis kind of sus.
Like you know, I pray to God.
That's right, it's wicked.
I'm paraphrasing Don't butcherme Comment section.
He says something along thoselines right, that's right, it's

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wicked.
You know he godd.
That's right, it's wicked, youknow.
I mean you could really readinto that like okay, who the
fuck are you praying to, bro?
Like you're just not evenhiding your shit, it's kind of
ambiguous, though that's truemaybe he's trying to be funny
with wordplay right, or beclever, who knows?

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I feel like it's a deeper meaning there, bro, but I
mean like subjective, you knowI mean.
So it's like I mean whateverthe obviously the artist got
because you say ambiguous.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
It's like what else is he saying, though?
What else could you possiblysaying in that sentence, bro?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I don't pray to god, I pray to god.
That's right it's wicked.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
What do you interpret I?
Okay, that's a good question.
I like that.
I'll answer.
I'll ask you the same thing.
Um, for me, I take it as he'sbasically saying whoever you all
consider god, I pray to theopposite.
That's what I got from it.
Like yo, straight up, I don'tpray to god, I pray to god,
that's right, it's wicked.
So to me, you're blatantlysaying if you don't got it, if
you don't understand what I meanwhen I say God, he, I'm gonna,

(07:48):
I'm gonna elaborate on it bysaying yeah, that's right, it's
wicked.
You know I'm saying, but youcould easily hide behind that,
like I was just clever wordplay.
What do you mean?
But what was he rhyming wickedwith?
I don't know.
That's a good question, I gottahear it again that's fair.
What fair.
What did you get from that?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Well, first I'd have to hear it again, that's fair,
but with that just off that line.
I really can't say.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
That's true.
Damn Good point.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
You got to hear the whole thing, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
No, no, that's true, we're kind of adjusting, we're
kind of judging it unjustlyright now.
You know what I?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's just one line, that's true, the whole song is
kind of If the song's calledDevils anyways, granted, there's
going to be certain terminologyin there that's going to, and
then obviously there's someintention there.
Yeah, I mean Jay-Z has he'sworn a shirt.
I've heard that.
I don't know if you've heard ofhis name, aleister Crowley.

(08:41):
He was one of the yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm glad you brought it up.
I was actually gonna say thatyeah did you see that, that
photo?

Speaker 3 (08:50):
yeah, do I start?
Well, and I think he was havinglike an interview or something
I saw it's a screenshot that'sfucking viral.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'm sure you've seen it so, the so, the so.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
The term itself isn't bad.
Obviously, the creator of theterm, that's the person that
everyone associates it withright.
So anytime they see, they seethat they see that on somebody.
They're like oh, this person'ssatanic, but because he's a.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
He's like a known devil worshiper, satanic,
satanist.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, he actually no, he started his own religion.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's called it's called uh the lima really, yeah,
I don't even know that, bro,that's wow and everything is.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
It's got a like this, like crazy like symbol, like
I've actually seen people comein like you know, like at the
job I've seen, I actually sawsomeone that had that tat that's
obviously like someone elselike, like, like someone else
looking at it is gonna, is gonnathink that it's a tribal.
But I saw this shit.
I was like oh shit, like Ididn't.
You knew it was some shit inplain sight.
Yeah, yeah, you're hiding inplain sight.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
You just said it.
Yeah, so if you, if you'rewilling to share it with myself
in the public, what is youroverall because obviously the
episode is not going to be aboutthat, of course, but what is
your general consensus?
Thought I'll word itdifferently what is your general
idea, like what is your opinionthat you're willing to share?
I'm Jay-Z.
Do you think he's involved inall that?
Because you said hiding inplain sight, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
I wouldn't Okay.
I have no evidence to reallysay that he is but I wouldn't be
surprised if he was involved.
I just wouldn't, just because,would you say, it exists.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
What the other, the whole situation, you know like
that the Illuminati, the fuckingSatanists and all that.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's possible.
Is it plausible in every sense?
Not always, but who knows bro?
Who the fuck knows Bro?
There are secret societies.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
That's true that's just you'd be naive to say that
it doesn't yeah that's truesecret there.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
There's secret online forums that have certain ideas.
You know, I'm saying like shitI would.
I would even say that you knowsorry, no good sir, yeah I mean,
I'm there's, just there'scertain, there's places, you
know, on the net, where there'sforums, where people have
certain like they have certainproclivities.
You know I what I'm saying ofdifferent, you know genres or
whatever.
Good point, and no one elseknows about it because they're
not in it.
That's true, you know what?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I mean, that's true.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
I mean like why would it just stay at this level?
It can go from the lowestlevels to the highest levels,
especially if they can have more?
Damn, I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, especially up there,man are actually seated in
positions of power that they canactually use to do things you
know Like.
Think about it.
Yeah, that's a good point, bro,let's say that, like the

(11:10):
director of the NSA, right wasone of these partygoers right.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
The pull that he would have, he could probably,
you know, sign these things.
You know what I'm saying To acertain like you know degree, to
make make it like, look likelike, not suspicious yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
You can probably pull some strings and make things
happen you know.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
So that's a good point.
I mean, I really don't.
I don't, it's not that farfetched.
However, it's like this tendsto when there's no evidence and
there's only, it's kind of hardto support it, your full faith
in it.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
I respect that.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Because you never know, because there are people
who do make fraudulent claims,you know of the same degree that
they do and they actually admitthat they're wrong.
Now, even in those cases, theycould have just made a deal with
the person too.
Who knows?
You'll just never know.
You never know unless there'sactual proof.
That's a fair case you know,because like, let's just say

(12:05):
right, there's, there's justallegation.
Now right, let's just say thisone is false.
Right, what if there's anotherone that's actually true?
It's funny, you say it.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Will it maybe be false?
We'll get to that in a secondbut, no, you're right.
Could it be the next one?
Could be true, like I said,even if this one is, even this
one ends up being fake, right?
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
because let's say, even with I know we're kind of
probably going a little off theroad no, go ahead.
Let's say like with what's hisname?
Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
However many cases he had right.
I'm not sure how many of themthat he actually settled out of
court.
But let's just say he settledall of them out of court, right?
Doesn't mean that he did do onedamn.
I mean what?
If I mean I'm not, I meanobviously you can't really that
would, that would, uh, thatwould hurt.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
You know, like my first credibility to my opinion
of him you know well, notcredibility, but opinion.
You know I'm saying sure, butum, yeah I mean, you just never
know.
You never know man it woulddefinitely falter your opinion,
because then if that came out,you're like fuck well, I was
wrong about that shit.
So maybe I'm wrong about thistoo.
Yeah, and people you don'treally know, because I mean,
even if you know the personright, they can hide things from
you.
You wouldn't ever even know ittook

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place.
Well, you know, I killed goatsin there, bro yeah but to add to
that, bro, don't do that.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
But you know, yeah, but just a wild example, there's
, there's a, there's someinnocent people that are that
are locked up doing like doinglike real time, and they didn't
do the crime.
Damn, it just got pinned onthem.
Why do you think that that?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
happens?
Do you think that happensbecause people just played the
wrong cards, or do they justruffle the wrong feathers?
Did something they weren'tsupposed to do, you know?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Like wrong place, wrong time association.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
That sucks.
You know what I'm?
This person looks like this,and then let's just say let's
just say that you just happen tohave a set of things that
they're looking for.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
You know what I mean.
I mean especially like in thepast, bro.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Like in the past before the law became a little
bit more thorough, people weregetting pin for shit that they
didn't do all the time.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
People would.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
That was a, that was a reoccurring thing.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Did you hear?

Speaker 1 (14:06):
there's this recent event um, where a guy supposedly
dressed in blackface to do acrime so that they would.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh shit, oh I didn't know about that, bro.
Yeah, what's going on with thisworld?
Just in blackface to do thecrime and then like what yeah,
they had to yeah, was that hisdecision?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
well, you'll never fucking know, because it was his
crime.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
But damn bro like he did it in bro, people aren't
stupid, bro, you know what I'msaying.
So it's like.
That's why I'm saying there isa possibility, man, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
But man circling back to the topic, no for sure,
that's definitely something tothink about.
That's good food for thoughtright there, bro.
But some person might do anaction dress a certain way, just
because they thought it wasfitting.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah no-transcript, that's true, it threw you I
didn't think of that.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
But yeah, you know like, yeah, it could literally.
That could be the case that'swhy I'm like man.
Okay, speaking on that, though,like I said, getting into what
we're going to talk about next.
So my thing with that man rightin the whole situation with
Diddy the person supposedly I'mgoing to stop putting that up
Shit he's falling Supposedly now, right, this person's accusing
him of these actions thathappened 20 years ago after the

(15:15):
VMAs.
Right is claiming that she hasautism.
We didn't get a name, obviously, or a face.
It's blurred out.
She spoke to a media source.
I forgot which one it was, manI.
I looked, I forgot exactlywhich one it was, but I know she
spoke to.
This is verified as of yesterday, after this recording that you
know her story didn't add up.
She was saying things and thatyou know it didn't make it

(15:37):
really make too much sense.
And then she didn't want toreveal herself because I know
that jay-z had prior, the weekbefore, challenged her to reveal
herself.
Like you're going to make theseaccusations to fuck up my
reputation and my outlook and myimage on the world.
Reveal yourself.
People know who the fuck I am.
Say who you are.
Now, that's a scary gameBecause I feel like, at the same
time, if you reveal who you are, who's to say he won't send a

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hitman.
He can absolutely afford it.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
He can absolutely afford someone to take you out.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Why the fuck would you reveal that information
that's sensitive as fuck?
I wouldn't reveal that.
I'd be like fuck that I'm nottelling you who I am.
If I can win money off thisshit without telling the world
who I am, absolutely I'm goingto stay anonymous.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
But if you're going to get money, then they're going
to know and then you know ifanything happens then he's gonna
get implicated damn.
So she can kind of like well, Ibenefit if you, god forbid, kill
me, you're just gonna solidifyand certify that you really did
do something yeah, I wanted tosilence me yeah, but there's

(16:35):
also another nuance, you know,and it's nothing against her,
but I think part of the reasontoo, like because it's so
sensitive, it's extra sensitive,it's because she has she has
autism or she's claimed to haveautism, so it's a extra, extra
sensitive.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
And her story and that's why I bring that up,
because supposedly her story hada bunch of holes in it and that
even even the news source thatthat gave her the platform to
speak, in a blurred sense, theirstate, because you can see her,
you can see her complexion, butyou can't really tell who.
It is right, it's blurred outfor her protection.
whatever she were.
She requested to be anonymous,so her and the interviewer kind

(17:06):
of just like they're like yeah,I heard there's a lot of holes
in her.
The news source said thatthere's a lot of holes in her
story.
Like this shit doesn't evenreally add up, so this actually
might benefit him.
This coming out might actuallybenefit his case further.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
But if she?
But let's just say, right, shehas this condition.
Right, yeah, from what I heardwith this condition.
Right, yeah, from what I heardwith this condition, obviously
there are high-functioningmembers of autism.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Who have it?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
right.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Who can?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
articulate a payday.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
You can articulate that.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
But not all of them can.
That's true.
I used to work with them.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Some of them.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
They just ramble on and don't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's true.
Well, because, to be fair, Iwork, you know, without going
into a whole side spill, I usedto work with them directly at my
old, one of my old jobs in thepast.
I would help them, you know,learn basic skills and stuff now
, and there were a lot of highfunctioning ones, bro now hold
on.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
When they were uh recalling uh an event of the
lies with you, did you hear anyplot holes?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
no, oh, yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
did definitely for sure.
I mean it was cool, themajority of it made sense, but
there's definitely plot holes,shit.
There's plot holes in filmsthat are written by people that
don't have autism.
Yeah, but that's just badwriting, that's true.
But my point that's a goodpoint.

(18:21):
That's just fucking bad writing.
That's not the same shit.
That's a good point.
That's just fucking bad writing.
That's not the same shit.
Where's the laugh track?
Man, I got to play that shit.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Hold on the thing about it is look, the shit was
damn right fucking 30 years ago.
There's going to be plot holes.
No, you're right bro.
Okay, if it's true and she was13,.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
There's going to be plot holes, man, man.
No, you're right, that's why.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
That's why she's just 13 the story's gonna have holes
because you don't remember.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's right, it was so long ago that nefarious has got
a point.
You're not gonna remember.
Recollect everything perfectlyto the way it exactly happened
you're gonna miss.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
That's fair.
And not only that, if shedidn't tell anybody, she's extra
and she didn't till now and youlook worse now now.
That's, that's why she doesn't.
She probably won't have a casenow.
That doesn't mean that nothinghappened low key.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh shit, hold on.
You plagued yourself.
I'll say it again low key youcongratulations.
You plagued yourself would you?
Say to a degree, I would say so.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
No, I mean maybe because I mean when you're, when
you're young.
If something like that happensto you, I mean, thankfully you
know nothing, you know thatdoesn't hopefully that doesn't
happen to no one else.
You know what I'm saying, butlike you, can only imagine what
someone's going through, youknow what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's true.
No, that's fair.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
You probably.
You know, like withdraw, youprobably go through and not it
might make her process thingsdifferently.
You know, I don't know if shewas already a withdrawn
individual, who knows?
You know what I'm saying.
But just because there's no onethat she told it doesn't mean

(19:52):
that it didn't happen.
You know as many plot holes asthere is.
Who the fuck knows 30 years ago, damn near.
Who the fuck's gonna?
Who knows bro?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
No, that's.
True, Nobody knows bro.
No, that's.
True, nobody's saying nobody.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
The crazy thing, though, is that some people can
recall everything, that's true,but, but I have yet to hear one
that is autistic to do that.
Like with um, that's a goodpoint.
Like with kevin spacey right,but I feel like he's gonna try
to run with it.
Of course it's the offensive,it's.
It works towards his advantage.
I hope he's innocent.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
I hope I hope he has to do with that shit.
So do I?
Just because, yeah, I don'treally wish anything negative.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I respect him.
You know what I'm saying andhis legacy you know what I'm
saying is dope, but the thing isit's like—.
That's really what this is.
Battle for his legacy.
And if this is true, though,let's just say you know, what
else does that mean about thepeople he's with?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
You know what I'm saying Because it's just going
to expand.
And that camp is corrupted, bro.
But Jay-Z has that part of hislegacy right, based on what we
were talking about, so I don'treally see this affecting him
too much, especially if this isgoing to be playing in his
corner.
As far as her not her storyhaving holes in it, I mean mean
they're gonna try to clap backwith oh yeah, so you're gonna

(21:04):
use her disability against her.
Of course you're gonna use thatto your advantage.
Who the fuck wouldn't?
In your position, you're a blahblah blah, you know.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I mean you're the same thing as your buddy, but
they're gonna anticipate that soso his I know his lawyer is
gonna be ready for it he has tobe.
The thing about this is oncethey so let's just say that they
do defeat this right.
Yes, this, um, this, thisaccusation cheers.
By the way, they got to be onguard for the next one.
Are you ready for another?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
one.
Yeah, sorry they're gonna be onguard.
No doubt gotta be on guard inthe defense mode.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, because now it's like bro, whoever's going
to those parties is on the list,you know what I'm saying
they're you know I'm saying socelebrity a, celebrity b, c, d,
whatever, like they're fuckingshitting bricks right now.
The the ones who actually wereinvolved.
Oh, you're right, because Ididn't say that.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Thank you, Furious.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
He was Celebrity.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
A, you heard it here first.
Well, you didn't hear it first.
You heard it here, second,third, fourth, fifth, whatever
Point is.
You heard it from Furious,officially, from Timeless Talk.
You're right, if you've beenfollowing.
Thez was for those that don'tknow was revealed as celebrity a

(22:08):
in the in the diddy case.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, that's a big fucking deal, because he's still
a bc and d and that was, andthat was months before they were
more names to come.
Oh yeah, but.
But, but that was before theyactually like dropped his name
name, they already knew who hewas.
Yeah, but he was justclassified as that no, exactly
yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
So I think it's because they're waiting for more
shit to come out before theycould reveal him as damn, but I
know he should at least seen itcoming bro but the thing is man,
his, I mean he probably didbecause, because his response
was, his response was good itwas his response.
It was powerful and like heprobably had it articulated
beforehand.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
No, I mean.
That doesn't mean that he'sguilty, right, what I'm saying
is like, but, like his, hisresponse was it wasn't one of
guilt.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
It was like bro, like that's fair.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I agree with that it's like hey, man, like you got
me fucked up it wasn't anadmission.
That's true, like it's worded Iknow this dude, but I'm not on
the shit that he's on you knowI'm saying he's my boy, but I'm
not with that.
But that's, that's the risk ofguilt of association.
You, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's like bro, your boy's doing some fuck shit.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Like okay, let's say that.
Let's say, like one of yourboys is in the like CS right,
you're fucked.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yep, you're fucked Just for being cool with that
fool bro.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Congratulations.
You played yourself Just forbeing cool with that fool bro.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
People are going to think a that was your best homie
.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh shit, you're right , especially if you walk around
like all hugged up and shit.
That's my brother.
I don't think you understandHis businessman.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yo man Yo man Buy his liquor, man Blah, blah, blah,
blah bro.
And this whole time this fool'sgot a whole hard drive on his
shit.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Drink Ciroc, you'll never see Ciroc on this show.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
You're like, and he endorsed it because that's his
boy.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
So it's like, if you know him on that level.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
You definitely know him better than we do.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
But that's why, at these parties, bro, they fucking
take your cell phones and shit.
They'll fucking make you shinein the age, because they already
know some fucking fuck shit'sgoing to be going on, which is
why he should have seen broFatality.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
He's cooked, would you agree?
But I mean, I would say thatJay-Z's more in the finish him
stage right now if he's notcareful, would you agree,
because Diddy's already?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Jay-Z, I would say he's on the precipice right now,
depending on what comes outnext.
So, if this person's testimonyis crushed, you know what I'm
saying.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Then he might have a leg to stand on.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Then he'll be fine.
He might have a leg to stand on.
Yeah, then he'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
However, his reputation is still going to
have a hit, it's going to havean asterisk there.
Think about it, bro.
Well, not overall, not overall,but it's going to have.
In this sense, think about this.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Think about this, bro .
Okay, here we go.
Who's coordinating the SuperBowl?
Jay-z.
So this is just the worsttiming bro up, so he has to he
has february brother get thisshit quick.
He has to make this shit goaway quick, bro, if anything.
If he loses that, he's fuckedthe super bowl, bro, they're
gonna have fucking you gotta go.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I didn't think about that.
You know the nfl's pain, brotom hanks doing that shit next,
bro he said tom hankscoordinating the halftime show.
Oh my, who's gonna get garthbrooks?
I'm sorry I'm stereoty.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I just have a stereotype bro, oh we were
thinking he like country.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Who's going to get Garth Brooks?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
for the half-time show.
You know what I'm saying, bro,so that's why like look man, I'm
going to sound biased right now.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
I'm thankful You're going to laugh when I say this
shit, I shows ran black.
I don't give a fuck.
I love that music.
I'm a hip-hop head my damn self.
So you know, I know it's funny,but it's the truth, man.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
So they give that shit to somebody else like that.
You don't know what the fuckwe're going to get bro.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
That's a big, you're not schoolteam.
It's a scandal.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
No big business does.
But think about this too, bro.
That's fair.
Why did Lil Wayne get mad atKendrick this year?

Speaker 1 (25:47):
Because of what?
Because he got the halftime Bro, he got the halftime
performance.
So right now everyone's justlike this yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Because if Jay, because look look.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
If Jay, let's say he does get in the night or I fuck
with Jay right which was a smartbusiness move to pick Kendrick,
because everything's going on,he's winning but if he goes down
, that whole roster's gonna getchanged.
That's not gonna affect.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Kendrick, though says who you think so how do you
know you think it would?
Oh, because he's a.
If he's off, oh, this shit runsdeep because it's affiliated
with Jay Z, if he let's just saythat there is some validity and
he gets moved off, which hewill because they want to defend
their reputation.
He'll get moved off.
Good point Whoever gets put in.

(26:29):
If they don't like rap music,they're going to change the
fucking venue.
That's what would affectKendrick directly.
They're going to change it Nowhe might be able to still have a
spot, they would at least honorit.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean, come on, he made the announcement, but they
don't have to and what he'sdoing this year, but they don't
have to.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
He's pretty big this year NFL's bigger than Kendrick
that is true for sure,kendrick's big and they revenue
more money, but NFL's bigger brocorporate.
I don't think they truly carewho they even have.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Corporate is bigger than Kendrick, that's true.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Kendrick is bigger amongst us and amongst like you
know what I'm saying in the hiphop culture.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
But my thing is, they're a money-making machine,
right yeah, so it would be avery bad business move To put
him up there.
Well, no, really.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I was going to say the opposite.
No, because look To take himoff.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
No, it would be smart to keep him, don't you think?
Especially on the high thathe's on right now, he's having a
good year.
Hell yeah, that fool's on topof cloud 12 Just beat Drake in a
battle.
As an album, I would say it's a50-50.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I would say it's a 50-50.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I wouldn't say it's a guarantee, why not?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Because Jay-Z picked him.
That's fair?
It's not necessarily.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
And that's what will boil back.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Fuck, because let's say Public perception is
everything.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Let's just say that they can pick anybody they
fucking want they could.
They could pick you me.
That doesn't matter who they,if they trust you, they, they
know, they think that you knowwhat you're doing, bro.
They could put anybody theywant there.
Yeah, obviously they want toput someone who has a good
reputation, a good standing,that can bring them the fucking
business right.
So jay-z's good for that.
He's like bro, it's jay-z hehis reputation is mostly on
tarnish, I know he had like hegets, if he gets cooked with

(28:02):
this shit, Bro.
it's bad for fucking business.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
That's a good point, it's bad for business, bro.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
What I was going to say, what I was going to add,
though, is this right, Bigbusiness will separate
themselves from all this kind offuck shit, right yeah.
However, this is the fucking.
This is the other side of thecoin, right?
Preserve their reputationBehind closed doors.
They probably still participatein this shit too.
They got the money, they gotaccess, they got the fucking

(28:27):
range.
They probably all do this shiton the low.
They're just in the front.
They're like, ah you can't doit man oh shit.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Remember, man, I used to work, you did you used to
work alongside some of thesepeople In a place like that you
did bro, I know, and for thosethat don't know business, for
exactly for the new listenersand viewers out there, they
don't know this gentleman usedto work amongst some of the
bigger names that you guysrecognize on the screen for sure
, and he has stories that I wishhe could use and display and

(28:59):
dispouse online.
We can't do it.
I'm gonna respect this mansigned an nda non-disclosure
agreement and I can't ask him tobreach that.
That's not fair to hislivelihood and his future on
this earth.
So I'm gonna be respectful ofthat.
But, man, if you guys knew whatI knew, man, because you've
been around those people, wecould say that much you could
talk vaguely about it.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Right, at least around us.
You know, not all of them, butI've, I've you've met enough,
witnessed enough and youwitnessed enough to know, know
like, okay, like people don'tknow shit.
Yeah, what gets out there isn'talways what's fucking true,
like obviously, because justeven just to get to their house
you got to pass through fuckinggates.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
And at that point it was you.
Yeah, he was that.
He was that guy for those thatwell that you guys know and love
.
He was a guy at that point, atthat situation, at one point of
his life, right when you theyhad to get through you to see
these people so I mean Furious,saw their guest lists and
whatever the situation they hadgoing on on their property, this
man right, so that was a fun tome bro that would have been a

(29:58):
cool ass experience, just tohave it.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, you see it for what it is after you see the
soft white underbelly yeah, Ilike that and that shit is just
like it is down here.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That's crazy.
It's just they got, it's not.
They got more money, that's itmore access better houses,
obviously better better foodthey have access a lot more
better everything, everythingmaterial better okay, but
everything materialistic of theworld they have on like level 10
, being human, they're the same.
Yeah, they're the fucking sameyeah, they have.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
You know I'm saying proclivities.
Some of them are sus as fuck.
Some of them are just, hellyeah, trying to get a nut.
That's being nice.
Some are just trying to get anut, that's fair.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
He's right, some are just trying to get a nut.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
But to be to be fair, though, there's a lot of weird
shit going on in hollywood, man,it's not yeah, it's the don't
yeah and you were just in acommunity right there in itself,
that little community that yousaw people come and go, bro you
saw so much shit bro, you heardabout so much shit bro, and it's
like, of course you know thisis all hearsay.
Obviously I couldn't bringanyone up on their stand and be
like of course, and I love this,in fact, exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
So I love this I love my brother I ain't gonna ask
him to implicate himself.
Fuck, no, we're not doing thattoday or any day, but you know
what I mean just know it's notall you see.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Okay, like just know that when you idolize a star or
an actor or whatever.
Just know you're idolizingsomeone that you could possibly
you probably would hate them ifyou really knew how they got
down.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I was about to say that they say it.
That's why you don't want tomeet your stars.
Yeah right, because they say,when you meet your stars you run
the risk of hating them,especially about an actor,
especially after they're actors.
So they're acting to be,they're portraying a certain way
in public.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Oh hey, that's that's an act and it is because think
about who really wants camerasin their face all day.
Most people don't you're right.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I'm saying, and I actually want to.
I want to elaborate on that, tomake it even more, to make it
even more personable andrelatable yeah you, the viewer
and listener, there you go towork.
Let's be honest, we all put onan act to a degree.
Let's be honest, we, wedefinitely do.
You have to play their game youknow whether you want to and I'm
not saying me particular inthis situation or even, or even,

(31:59):
uh, furious in this particularsituation.
I'm just saying in general,right over Over a general
audience here Anybody that goesto work every day, definitely,
absolutely even management,right, they all play a role,
they all put on, play a role.
What does that sound like toyou, pretending aka acting?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm being a certain way that I know I have to be
project myself in thisenvironment.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I'll say okay.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
To be productive, I'll say performing there you go
.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
That's what it really is at the end of the day.
That's to fucking summarize iteven quicker.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, I digress, it's a performance.
You know what I'm saying, likewhen you're getting reviewed.
Oh, your work performancereview you know what.
I mean Bro.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, see, and they know it.
Words, and it's like theyexpect you to understand.
Look, bro, we get it.
Some shit's gonna rub you thewrong way, piss you off.
Even we expect you, though.
We have expectations for you toproject yourself differently.
You gotta know right, there'scertain ways to say things,
certain way to do things, but ifyou're a person that's based
off emotion, you don't reallyuse our, you don't articulate

(32:59):
logistics behind it.
You're gonna pay for it butthat's the thing, see.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
The thing is everyone's got everyone's
emotional to a degree I am, I amyour favorite people, everybody
is, you are your favoritepeople.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Of course, everybody your favorite people no one in
particular got some of the worstfucking vices and worst fucking
I agree, proclivities out therelike you just don't fucking
know, that's true, you don'tknow, yeah, like oh my god, like
it's like man.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
No, no, that's like for real.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, that's fair no, that's fair, and it's everybody
, it's not you, it trickles outof everybody, it's not just
anybody in particular I, Isecond that, that's true.
But anyway, man, you know, backto what we were talking about.
For sure, that all ties intothis, because I can really only
imagine those that are in, youknow, I'm saying sean carter's
camp, jay-z's camp, besidesdiddy, I really wonder, bro, you

(33:44):
know, they have to be like okay, we have to address this
properly.
But then you know, behindclosed doors, where there's no
cameras and no, no, microphones.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
You're talking to the lawyers for you know, they are
big time lawyers coming throughbro and there's two sides of the
coin, right?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
so you're right, and you've seen that too, I'm sure
I'm here to see.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Uh, you're like oh yeah, okay, you're on this list.
You definitely know it.
You know a fucking phantom,phantom phantoms, bro, those are
rich as fuck bro, see, this isexactly okay.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
I'm gonna say something.
Okay, this is completely offtopic.
I'm just gonna say this shit.
There's no wonder to me why somany failed marriages exist in
that universe.
When you have that kind ofmoney you're playing with.
It's because I feel like theyget to a point right where, like
, I really love this woman.
This is why okay, I'm gonna saysomething.
This is a hot take.
This is way off topic, guys.
I'm just gonna put it out there.
Anyway, I feel like if youdon't truly love the woman

(34:35):
you're with and you have theirkind of money, goodbye.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You're gonna fuck around her every day.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
I mean she really has to be like you said.
It's gonna get to the pointwhere he said even if she's home
, you're not gonna give a fuckyou know I'm being.
I'm being superficial here, I'mbeing real.
If you have that kind of accessand you know you could have
them in a finger snap if youdon't act right or fuck asking
if you don't be right you thinkyou're still gonna cheat, it's
not.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
I mean that, bro.
Bro, these fools got fucking 12room mansions.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Even if they're home I'm inviting shorty home you can
still cheat on them across theWest Wing.
Yes, and you don't know what'shappening.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Bro, cars parked right side by side man, oh,
that's so true, chick is rockingit.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
How would she even know?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
I'm here for so and so okay, you just said it.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Oh, you know what can ?
You okay, before we go forward,this is a nice little sidebar.
We're gonna we're gonna go herefor a second before we go into
depth about that, right?
Um, I feel like the house isbig enough you'll be able to
have someone come in.
She won't even hear it happen.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
She won't even hear the person come in if the house
is big enough, look, look, andyou can go over to the last
swing, do your whole thing andthen she wouldn't even know at
that point.
No, at that point.
Trust me at that point.
Trust me.
They know there is no secretsamongst them, okay there can't
be.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I mean, they have so much, so you should they got too
much of this, bro.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
There's.
There's really no, no secret.
The thing is legacy at thatlevel is all about legacy.
How do we look to theprojection?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
how do we know I respect, because you can't just
be a wild fucking.
You can, but you're going to belooked at the same way Because
look?

Speaker 3 (36:09):
it's not a one-sided endeavor.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
They both do it.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
That's fair, they both bro Bro, personal trainers,
all kinds of shit.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
It's like man bro like just I'm here to uh go to
so and so and it's fine.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Okay, let me give you an example husband's out of
town in a different country onbusiness.
Bro, I was gonna say that inthe world we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
he said I'm there to bring you your coffee Every
single morning bro, he'sbringing her coffee and
something else too.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
A 12-inch stirring stick.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
No, nah, he's bringing her a hard stick to
stir it with too.
I'm bringing her a coffee.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
all right, Because the thing is, bro, when you see
them, when you see them takingbecause look, the reason why I
say this is because when you seethem taking a walk, that's not
training bro, what are youtalking?
That's not part of you, bro.
Okay, I'm glad you said this.
Mind you, there's nothingagainst walking.
There's nothing against walkingwith the trainer.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Okay, I'm just saying that's a warm-up, okay, I'm
just saying, come on bro thatcould be, you know so, but at
the same time, like a

Speaker 3 (37:22):
warm-up, to what but?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
in the same breath right.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Theoretically I could be wrong too, because obviously
I'm not there, but however it'slike.
I look at two and two, I seehow person A does their business
and how person B does theirs,and I'm like hold up.
Y'all are never here at thesame time.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
And if you are.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
It's for like three days a week.
Maybe People are human at theend of the day.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
So they're doing something.
Even if you're naive, you'relike oh, she's not doing
anything, while I'm not around.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
It's something now.
In some cases it may not beanything.
Right could be, yeah that'sfair to say.
I would say 50% of them.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
They're for sure for sure something going on.
Well, I mean, you have aninsight that none of us well,
not none of us, but some of usdon't have because, some things,
bro, bro, at that level, bro,you think that?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
you think that they don't pay for it?
Oh come on fucking bro they gotmoney they don't got.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Let's be honest to them.
You're so right.
They'll, they'll.
They don't have time.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
They're going to speak in the random bro even
though, let's be honest, if youhave the fame to go with it, you
might not have to pay for it,bro no, no but what I'm saying?
Go to a mall in the middle ofthe fucking day.
Oh yeah, I promise you you'llfind someone that's willing to
have that experience.
You know, I'm saying, of course, even if it's for that one day.
But they don't want they don'tlike.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
They don't like people at our level, because
people at our level will talk.
We'll go out, you know, sayingwe're gonna be so you know
what's it called.
You know, um what's it calledastonished by their wealth and
this and that, like we're justgonna be, we're gonna gonna turn
into a fucking what's see?
What you're saying so they likepeople at third level or
somewhere kind of close to it,because they know, okay, you
guys respect wealth, you guysdon't, you don't really crave
the wealth, you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
I can utilize you and be safe.
That's a good perspective.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
People at our level, a woman,would have to be just super
fucking bad, super bad for themto be like.
You know I'm saying other thanthat.
Like they like you have to be,that's fair you'd have to be the
fucking cream of the crop atthis level for them to be like
come on over.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying no.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
No, I see what you're saying, though, for real, yeah,
for sure, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
And you got a good point, because that's what they
want.
You're right.
Why would I go?
It's gonna sound fucked up whenI put it this way.
Why would I go?
Why would I go and waste mytime with a bottom bowler?
I hate to say it, but that'swhat we are to them.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Bro, that's how they look at it.
They're not going to say itlike that.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
No, of course not, but the thing is, bro.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I remember one time man.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
To be politically correct.
I remember one time bro Goahead.
Obviously I'm not going to nonames Go ahead and share
scenarios that you were the richperson man came up to me one
time bro, go ahead, right, herewe go no names.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
This little guy had the nerve to tell me I'm making
good money and he's driving afucking phantom.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I'm like bro, no shit , motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
And obviously, obviously, you're making good
money.
This ain't a rental, youdickhead?
No, he was telling me, I makegood money okay working.
Yeah, exactly, you know whatI'm saying.
Yeah, that, right there, thatshit.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I have a good question by the way I have a
good question.
I'm gonna cut you off.
You have more.
You have more to add let me askyou when it hits you, did you
ever think because if I were youbro honestly and I say this
true, heartedly, because I loveyou like my brother, you know
this did you ever think you knowwhat?
I'm gonna use this shit tomaybe make a connection that can
help me get out of my fuckingbullshit, that situation like?
Don't get me wrong, I'mgrateful to be a guard in this

(40:27):
fucking guardhouse.
I'm sure it's prestigious to adegree to be here, right?
yeah but you want to step it upa little higher.
I'm sure you went to workthinking you know, maybe I can
make a connection.
One of these people and havesome fucking endeavor.
Of course come from it.
Oh yeah, no, yeah.
So what were your thoughts onthat?
Did you ever try something likethat, or no?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
there are opportunities.
Okay, don't get me wrong,there's opportunities.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
But however, however, you got to better yourself you
got to understand.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Okay, what's up when you're dealing with rich people.
That's like modern day royalty,okay, so like it's like, so
like back in the day when therewas dukes and queens and kings.
Like today, the dukes andqueens are rich people.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, that's rich people for sure people who own
businesses who live in a certainbracket.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
It's the money sure right, it's the, it's the it's
the power.
So absolutely the financialpower.
Everything is now likefinancial right.
So, yeah, um, the thing is likeno, there were opportunities,
right.
But at the same time, you seealso, you see everything up
there, bro, you see how theytreat their workers.
You see all kinds of shit, bro,and me I'm not gonna be no
one's fucking dormant, I don'tgive a how much.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
No, never fuck that you have self-respect, bro
people like you, bro.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
People get don't be wrong, you'll get paid six
figures, right, yeah you are.
You got no.
You get no sleep.
You get talked to like you're afucking piece of shit you are.
There's the catch you're thefucking bitch, bro and not and
I'll also tell you this some ofthem are known publicly to have
horrible personalities.
They're great, they're, they'regreat actors and actresses and

(41:46):
that's what they are, but theyhave.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
You gotta remember that's what they are.
But they have horriblepersonalities.
You got to remember they'reactors.
They're toxic as fuck.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
They'll fucking pay you right, but you're on thin
ice every fucking day.
Because they know at the end ofthe day you need them they
don't need you, unless, look,unless you have a literal switch
to turn off your yeah, thenokay but let me ask you this you
know, do you think it'spossible?

Speaker 1 (42:09):
and this is, you're probably like, yeah, but that's
probably an outlier, right?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
let's just say do you think it's possible that in
that world, to be hired, help,right okay, because I'm sure
this exists to a degree to behired, I'm getting somewhere,
yeah, no, no, no, I'm goingsomewhere with it okay, is there
a possibility to ravage acareer from that?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
they say, for instance, the person really
likes you.
It can be fucking lebron, itcan be anybody right, it could
be fucking.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
It could be denzel, can be any sylvester okay, any
of them, right, any of thoseguys slice alone then the.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I really fuck with you I see your potential let me.
Let me bring you in on thisworld and help you advance,
because I fuck with you thatmuch.
I actually want you to be afriend, okay, I mean, so is that
a possibility?
Yeah, it's for sure,possibility it's like how would
you have?
Like a fucking five percentchance of that shit and here's
why I don't take you serious atall.
No, no, here's why.
Okay, first off you're a person.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
First off you gotta realize this.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
They're fucking busy as fuck that's one thing.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
They're always out making money.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Right, that's one, so they're not really focused
making money doing their shitdrugs, whatever the fuck right
they.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
They got families too .
They're married, of course.
Yeah, so the best way to get toclose someone like that
personal assistant, right,however you?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
gotta say that that's probably the word.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
You gotta understand these, these fools, don't?
they're the boss they're in thehr okay, you know, hr, nothing
to fucking a grievance, nothinglike that.
It's just you and them.
Okay, you guys have a dealright.
If they're having a bad day,bro, you're having a bad day,
damn, they gotta take a shit.
You gotta take a shit, not, not, not, obviously, like, not, not
like that.

(43:33):
But what I'm saying is like youwould have to show, you would
have to show a way that youwould be beneficial for them
with monetary value or, let'ssay, if it came to like to like
their family, like their familyjust really fucks with you heavy
.
Everyone in the family's like Ilove this person they're, they
help me feel a certain way yeah,if they saw that, and it was

(43:53):
like a unanimous thing.
They're like okay, like we'regonna, we're gonna keep you
around, but once you break thatyou're, you're at the mercy of
of the family, so it's still afucking shitty deal you're at
the mercy of how they feel aboutyou yeah you know I'm saying
you can.
No, don't go wrong, it happens,it has happened, I've, I've,
I've seen it happen.
But it's like it doesn'tnecessarily make the person that
they feel more comfortablebecause it's like okay, okay,
like now you're in, but you'restill not blood, you can still

(44:16):
fuck up, yeah, and they're likeokay, like no, but I've, trust
me.
I've seen the situations where,like this person's, like family
, they get this full six monthspaid off.
Paid off same rate go aheadtake a break, take a vacation.
They, they can do that, they arethey're.
That's how much power they got.
They can, bro, you can have asix-month vacation a year.
Let's just say, like you wentthrough something like traumatic

(44:37):
because I have, I have for sureI actually can't.
I can't divulge this one, butit's like I've seen okay, you
know, saying not, not even youcan't do it off the record.
I can't, okay.
But but this one, I actuallyknow the people involved and let
the fool off with pay,everything like that, and I'm
like bro, that's a one in abillion chance that someone

(44:58):
would have that kind ofopportunity.
So you have to be able tofirst— you just got to kind of
be in the right space.
You have to have the right levelof work, ethic, performance you
have to be able to withstand.
You know the fucking toxicitythat they bring because of their
fucking status, their muscle,because they're human.
They're not perfect, right.
They just got a lot of moneyand a lot of responsibility.
They got families and shit theygot.

(45:19):
They got baby mamas yeah, theygot like two.
Some of them got one, two,three.
They're just like us.
They're just rich, bro, that'sit like us so but they're also
in a way, they're just like us.
They're so temperamental.
Yeah, they're still cranky,they still get they.
They're still addicts, theystill.
Some of them are alcoholics,cokeheads, you know, I'm saying
crackheads like they still dothat shit.

(45:41):
So it's not like that, it'sthat it's just not the most.
Uh, I'll say for someone goinginto that situation just be
prepared like it's not gonna berosy and all that stuff you're
gonna.
When you first get in, cool,you're gonna be elated.
Don't be surprised when thatperson's like where the fuck are
you?
Yeah, bring your fucking asshere.
Like, like, they'll talk to youlike that.
Hang up a click, oh, oh, but,but I'm in traffic.

(46:04):
Click, if you're not here, byblah, blah, blah, you're fired.
Damn bro, they'll wake you up.
Call you 24 7 because you're oncall, because you're the estate
manager.
Um, I heard some uh, oh, one ofthe lights is out.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Blah, blah, fix it now and they had reserved the
right to do that.
You actually.
That's the contract there's no.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
That's what I'm saying so to work.
There is a lot, don't go wrong.
There's potential, right, butyou have to.
You have to be a really goodchess player, bro.
You have to bottle youremotions up and if you and
anyone who can withstand that, Irespect that playing the game
you in some cases is worse for,uh, for a woman especially,
especially beautiful women whoare humbled as well.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Because if you're with a you know a male, a male,
um, star male, like someonewho's upper echelon, and they're
also attracted to you,obviously they're going to hire
you because, cause you'refucking attractive as well,
you're nice, you're.

(47:12):
This is it puts people in a badposition, bro, because they're
like I'm rich as fuck, I can winor lose, I can fucking throw
the offer if she don't want it.
Okay, next there goes yourlivelihood, damn.
So imagine how some of themgive in.
I'm sorry, some of them give inbecause some of them don't.
It's a fucked up game, bro.
All right dang, it really isbro.
Yeah bro, I think, man, it'sjust, that's just.
I, me personally, like I reallywouldn't recommend anyone you

(47:37):
know working for that unlessthey, unless you have to be, you
have to have, you have to bestone cold.
To be assistant To assistant orto be assistant to assistant or
what exactly, oh yeah, for thatyou have to be able to bro
cause if they're having a badday, bro.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I'm already like fuck bro, I don't know how I'm gonna
deal with it.
No, you're right, it's on youtoo if they're having a bad day.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Bro, you're the closest person in fucking
proximity.
You're in charge of all theschedules, right?

Speaker 1 (48:01):
all this and that so would.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
They're going to put you in charge of their mood, to
a degree that's some bullshit,bro.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Some of them are going to, obviously— I'm going
to be like man, fuck you.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
You're fucking shit, bro.
Obviously like they're notgoing to blame it on you, but
let's just say— Better not bitchyou had a bad day.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
I'm trying to make it better.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Asshole.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Let's say that they're having a bad day, right?
I Say, for instance, I was inthe Alfred position at this
point.
The madman Listen, asshole, I'min your personal space for a
reason, right, you chose me.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Let me make your day better, asshole.
In some of those situations itworks out, and if not, fuck you.
In some of those situations itworks out, Usually not male to
male.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Okay, Female to male.
Yeah, it'll work out.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Because it's're like oh fuck, and look, you turn me
on yeah bro you know what?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
shit you get this shit after bro.
I'm telling bro you'll getfired for anything, but I
wouldn't doubt.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Some of them probably even fucked the person of
course, if they were good enoughbro, bro they're gonna be like
why not?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
no shit, you know, and, and the person who's
especially with the femalefemale Bro, that's a wrap.
Especially if they're like, ifthey got nothing to lose, right,
they got no kids, they don'tgot a husband or something.
Sorry, sometimes they do got ahusband yeah, sometimes they do,
but it's the star, it's a richperson and they're going to get
the benefit.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
They're going to fuck them, know because?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I'm like exactly they had their experience, they
wanted to have their littlestar-studded fuck experience, or
whatever you want to call itbro like.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
So it's funny because in the show entourage, what I
wanted to reference earlier,right, I'll circle it back right
now.
But there's in the showentourage, bro, there's a moment
where vincent chase fucks a fanthat he met on the street.
This fool got lunch with hisfriends.
I'll paraphrase because Iremember exactly how the episode
went.
But long story short, he meetsthis woman on the street, asks

(49:54):
her for opinion on something Iforgot what it was.
He's like what are you doing therest of your afternoon?
She's like really, she'sshocked.
Like he wants to hang out withher.
Like what the fuck?
Like you're that bored?
He's like, yeah, let's justfucking chill, let's hang out.
You cool with that boom.
And then he fucks her right,got it easy, and at the very end
of like banging her, they're inbed and shit talking afterwards
and she's like he's like let'sdo it again next week, same time

(50:15):
next week.
She's like really, you, youactually like me.
Like she's surprised that helikes her.
He's like no, fuck with you.
Easy opportunity, bro.
Finds out she's about to getmarried next week.
Yep, and the only reason whyshe did it is because her and
her husband had an agreementthat if they ever came across or
had a chance to fuck thisparticular.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Their fucking crush Then they would do it.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Celebrity crush yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
And she tells him that and he's like Okay.
I mean, I'm not mad, all right.
All right, fuck it.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I mean, hey, cool this, but it happens, bro.
My point kind of coincidingwith what you're saying there.
That happens all the time, bro.
I've seen getting married nextweek, bro fucked her.
So her favorite celebrity like,let me tell you something.
Okay, I've seen boyfriends droptheir girlfriends off for a
photo shoot she's getting aphoto shoot yeah, she's getting
fucked not a photo shoot.
And the pick her up too.
It's not a photo shoot, thoughnaive as fuck.
Not a photo shoot, bro naive bro, not a photo shoot at all.
I don't want to say no names,man, look bro.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
I'm not going to say any names, man because I respect
for the person that no one love.
I know someone who naivelybelieves that his situation is
that, and I think that he thinksI don't know, I could be wrong
man, I shouldn't say this shit,I mean okay look, but I mean, he
claims that's what she's doing.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
I'm like man if he's dropping her off at a photo
shoot or she might just leavehe's at home and she leaves hold
up if he's ever dropped her off, if her photo shoot is at a
mansion, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry he said.
I'm sorry Now granted granted,granted it's not a guarantee
that she's giving it up.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
She can't go in there and take a picture and leave
she.
No, look, here's the thing,because the thing is, I already
kind of know, at least I knowwhat went on at the place.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I was at right.
It doesn't mean that everyplace is doing that right,
that's fair.
However, if she goes in thereand she sees how everything,
because obviously she's going toknow, you know what I'm saying?
They fucking invite all theirfucking old ass friends and shit
, right so obviously they're notjust fucking playing tennis and
shit, right.
But if she goes in there andshe's like, okay, like I'm going
to leave because this is weird,Okay Good.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Good for her.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Good yeah, but a lot of times, bro, they stay for
tennis, okay, so in the photos,he Okay.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
So in the photo he's taking for tennis.
In the photo they're playingwith nuts.
You see some old ass foolspulling up bro.
They're playing with nuts, yousee some sick ass whips, bro.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Rich is bro, old bro, I'm talking about like 65,.
Bro, Bro, your freaking20-something year old girlfriend
.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
He's like oh, she's getting plastered 27 year old.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Yeah, no for sure.
Year old yet, bro.
You see, 18 year olds come upthere.
Oh, 18 and up, bro.
You see, and it's just likedamn like, and you already know,
bro.
It's just like fuck, bro, youlook and you're like another one
another one.
She's done, though she's cookedanother one so, yeah, so that
that that world bro is veryambiguous, because they're
insulated by a lot.
They're insulated by justpeople who just want a taste of
it, right?
So they're willing to fuckinglike dismiss a lot of things

(53:09):
just just to get access, right.
A lot of people are willing tolook the other way just to get
access, just to see.
You know so, and they, theyfucking know that you know what
I'm saying so they have.
They have the leverage on peoplewho are who, who want.
The person who's not affectedby that shit is a person who
knows who they fucking are,knows that okay, I don't have it

(53:31):
now, but I might be able to getit myself later.
They know that my success isn'tlinked to me working for a star
or being in this crowd withthem.
You can make your own shit andfucking get there.
It's going to be hard, but youcan make your own shit and get
there.
But the people that are lookingto get a leg up by association,
they're the fucking most likesusceptible in my opinion you

(53:52):
know, because they go there withfucking hopes and dreams and
shit.
And then they give them a hopeand a dream and some of them
take it, bro, Some of them don't.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
But it's on the dream , Tell me bro, and they fall for
that a bitch.
That's the reality, though, bro.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Like when I hear about people, oh, hanging with
like stars and stuff like that,like I've, you know, I've met
some females that oh, like I'vehung out with so-and-so, I'm
like, okay, I know you for sure,fuck for sure.
Yeah, no doubt, just becausethis person, like, I know the
lifestyle already.
You know what I'm saying, you,yeah there's no, yeah, the only

(54:26):
time, the world, only timethat's the only level that I
would say that a chick that'slike really pretty can get
turned down because there's achick that's prettier, yeah,
unless, unless she's joiningthem facts.
You know, I'm saying at thislevel it's not happening, right,
they got the pig litter likedown here when they, when they
go up there, bro, differentstory good luck because there's

(54:47):
no, because there's really,there's money being passed
around there's crazy people aregetting paid, bro.
I'm gonna be where we'll see.
Yeah, why do you think it isthat way, though?
Why?
Because they can do it.
Yeah, it's simple, it's.
There's no complicated reasonfor it.
It's just, bro, people like thepath at least of the least
resistance, right and for to getwhat you want.
What's the least resistancemoney, thanks, what is it?

(55:08):
So you know, I'm saying, foryou it's money, for them,
survival, yeah, we have an evenexchange.
Now I can, I can, procure yoursurvival, you can procure my
enjoyment, even trade, maybeeven your enjoyment dang you
might.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
You might have a little fun your damn self
enjoying.
You got people that.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
You know I'm saying that's, and that's like when you
start hearing things come outabout these stars, sometimes
it's just jaded lovers.
They're like, oh, he did thisand that and it's like nah, you
were fucking with him, but youthought he was gonna choose you
and he didn't.
He didn't choose you or her.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
yeah, sometimes that happens too yeah, it was put in
the driver's seat right in thatsituation yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
So when it comes to this whole jay-z thing, I'm not
sure.
You just never know, bro,because it could have been.
I I really don't think he woulddo that right, but just because
it there's, there's anaccusation, it's possible yeah,
it's definitely possible youknow, I'm saying, just because
he's jay-z doesn't mean he's not, he's not, he is human, he's
not impervious, he might havemade.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
He might have made a bad decision.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
He was younger.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
He was a lot younger, he was 30 years younger,
exactly, but circling all backto this, bro, with Jay-Z, the
fact that she was the age thatshe was, though, is what really
really fucks me up personally,bro, and I'm going to tell you
right now man again, I don'tgive a fuck if she is busty at
that age, bro, if she doesn'thave an ID proving her age or a
birth certificate proving thatage.

(56:27):
You got to be over your 20s, bro, because I mean sure they'll
say I don't know what's in thewater man.
This bitch looks like she's 22.
Sometimes that is the case.
I ain't going to lie.
I've seen 17, 18-year-olds,even a 17-year-old turning 18
that year.
That looked like she was 25.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Have you not seen that?
I'm just saying we admit tothat, I'm not saying we indulge,
like we find out.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Oh, I'll go that way, the fuck that way.
And you do feel kind of weirdafter you're like damn, had I
known.
Now I feel sick well I mean,you really care.

Speaker 3 (56:55):
The thing is look, because it's like yo, you didn't
fucking know but now you know,it's like all right, but let's
say that, but let's say that,you didn't know, would you,
would you continue?

Speaker 2 (57:03):
that's the thing, now .

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Now here I have a theory for that.
I think that a woman that thatis of age right, let's say that
you're assuming she's 25 basedon how she's built, right, but
she's really barely going to beillegal 17 turning 18, right,
let's just say that's the case.
I think that what will berevealing factor say, she looks
like she's 25 but she's eight,she's turning 18, right?
I think a revealing factorwould be how she carries herself

(57:25):
, how she speaks, of course, I'msaying that should be a
giveaway, like wait a minute,hold on.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
However, something's really off here no, of course,
you got a very young demeanorabout you.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
You know, I mean like well, wait a minute, however,
but you know.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I mean that should be enough for you to catch on like
, wait a minute, you're not here, let me see a fucking id.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, your mentality, your understanding of the world
is way different than a 25 yearold should fucking be, you're
right, but you got to considerthis right, I'm just saying, but
you also got to consider that,um, what's it called?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
first, these fools are drunk, right?
They're not talking.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Right, they're going up, so they're going upstairs
fucking what looks like it's ofage going upstairs, right.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
They're going upstairs right dimly, dimly lit
room.
Someone else who's equally asfucked up, right, hold up.
This isn't justifying anything,right?
No, however, I also think onthe flip side, you're just
trying to make sense of it.
On the flip side, me personally, I can tell when a chick is of
age.
Of course you can just.
You can just look at them, bro.
It's like bro.
What demeanor too?
Demeanor, no, but just like thehow their their face looks.

(58:19):
Everything's like bro.
No, you look like a fucking kid.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
You look like I can see that you know there's only
one woman I could agree.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
okay, there's only one woman I can agree.
There's only one woman I know,bro, not know, but obviously
I've met her a couple times,right, I'm an old joke, right?
The only woman I know, no, whofucking looks.
No, she's like right now shewould be probably like 45, 46,
right.
She looks like she's in herfucking 20s.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I kid you fucking not Get the fuck out of here, bro.
No bro, fucking young bro.
I'll text you the name.
How bro does she drink animalblood?

Speaker 3 (58:55):
maybe she's a fucking vampire.
Maybe she's fucking fuckingtwilight or something baby's
bloody movie, but um nah but,I'm saying on the most part bro,
you can tell bro if, if youlook bro, you can tell bro
you're saying height.
Obviously knowledge is high,but development, the face,
though, like for some reason,bro, a mature face, bro, on a
man or a woman, bro, you canjust tell yeah, okay like you're
saying, like I agree when theyhave that, that almost okay,

(59:15):
like, let's say like, like, like, like with males if they have a
boyish look, if it's stillboyish, they're young, they're
still young, it's not sayingthat they're not an adolescent,
but they're still youngfemalesales.
If they have a girly look,they're probably young.
Okay, obviously, if they'regoing from 17 to 18 or 20 or
whatever like that, there'sgoing to be a slight variation

(59:37):
right going up, but there's amaturity that you can see.
Some people you should be ableto notice they just ignore it,
or the thing is they're probablyfucked up so they're not even
driving looking like that.
You know I'm saying plus.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
You know I mean they're all they might use that.
They might use that enable it.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
You know I'm a nose enabled yeah, uh-huh, but we're
enabled, all right, but that'swhy I'm saying like, that's why
I think some of these fools bro,when they did do these
atrocities yeah, that's whatthey are they probably
legitimately thought that theperson was of age.
Right, they probably did.
Doesn't condone it, most likely.
You got to do your duediligence.

(01:00:13):
Before you sleep with anybody,you should at least ask them
their fucking name, right, askthem their age.
Be smart enough to know thosethings.
Do the basic shit.
Yeah, okay, you got to know whothey like.
You got to be smart enough toknow this shit.
Just a random, you know.
I'm saying like obviously,because then it's like what are

(01:00:34):
we really doing here, bro, evenat a nightclub, right, even at
nightclub right, where peopleare getting carded, right, you
still got to do it why peoplecan get fake ids right and, like
you said some, some females canbe fully developed at a young
age and they can be deceivingand they could pass for an adult
right to to certain people.
Obviously, in in a club you'renot going to be talking about
shit.
You know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
You're going to be divulging and figuring out shit.
You're right.
You're right, not in thatsetting.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
So I'm just saying it's like at these freak-offs
and shit, people are all underthe influence and shit and
there's hundreds of peopleprobably big-ass mansion.
If the limo driver did bringthis chick from the VMAs, this
13-year-old chick, that's thefucking unlikely part to me.
Okay, that's the part, that'sthe whole of me.
I'm like the limo driver fromthe asked you to go.
Now, if it was for Diddy,that's different.

(01:01:18):
Okay, Because his shit is justlooking like he said you've been
limographing for his shirt.
His credibility is like is goingdown.
His shit is cooked, bro.
He has bedrooms in hisbasketball, in his basketball
court.
He has beds that come out thewall in the basketball court,
bro.
I'm like bro, unless that videowas a fake, but that shit.

(01:01:42):
Just look, I'm like fatality.
He's done what do you do?

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
why Fatality?
He's done.
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Why.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Why?
Which begs the question, andthat's why You're going to ask
questions like why do you havefucking beds on your court?
What are you holding?
A youth camp, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I agree.
What justification do you haveto have that many beds right
there in the fucking stadium,bro?
But that's the life of the rich, bro, they can do that shit.
Oh, let me just put a bed, letme.
Let me.
Let me put a bed on the balcony, hanging off upside down, that
I can still sleep on oh my god,with the tv, just because, bro,
just because, bro, I can affordit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Why not Fuck out of here, bro?

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
The most expensive mattress I've ever seen come
through and it's probably cheapnow compared to when I saw it.
It was $4,000.
Fucking mattress, A mattress.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Or delivering this A mattress.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Bro, I'm telling you, bro, a mattress, bro, bro, I'm
telling you, bro, bro, with thattype of money, bro, bro, the
HOA fee, $10,000 to live in pro$10,000 a month, landscaping,
5,000 to 10,000 a month, what goWow?

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Think about it bro.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
And that's not it.
They got, they got a chef, theygot a driver, they got a.
They got a fucking charteredplane.
How much money do you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
have to have to sustain a life like hundreds of
millions bro and more coming inbasically investments.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
The bro, these people are sustained.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
They're all invested in companies, bro, where they're
getting residuals on the bro.
They're not, they're not losingmoney, they're keeping money
and they're they're gaining.
So to yeah, so to have thatthey're fucking locked in
companies, bro, where they'regetting residuals.
Bro, they're not losing money,they're keeping money and
they're gaining more.
So, yeah, to have that kind of—.
They're fucking locked in themarket right now, bro.
Crypto, all kinds of shit, bro.
They're not getting brokeanytime soon, bro.
I mean besides Kevin Spacey,because he's not getting any
more work now.
He's fucked, I think, bro.
His shit is fucked coming backfrom the 80s on his ass, bro.

(01:03:45):
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
When they were young.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
He's probably cooked, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
That's why you haven't seen him in shit lately
anymore.
No, they fucking canceled him,bro, Netflix.
The last series he was on wascalled House of Cards, which was
a good show it was.
But when this shit came outabout him, bro, it's like his
character and like that they'relike.
Is that how it was?
because his character in thisshow was fucking evil yeah,
fucking bro, he definitely didall the dirt, bro, he was
killing people.

(01:04:12):
He had a fucking, he had afucking side piece, his wife had
a side piece.
So he probably was like I'mplaying myself, that's what
people, that's what peoplethought damn, you know what I'm
saying.
So yeah it's just hollywood man.
You just never know.
You just never know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Did you watch House of Cards?

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Yeah, Before the allegations, I loved the show.
The show was dope.
I'm like, bro, this is a dopeass show Like.
This is one of the first showswhere I'm like, oh shit, I'm
actually into this shit Becauseit's like politics, it's the
shit that we want to know.
But it shows you the other sidetrying to kill people to get up
fucking positions, backstabbingshit that we're very familiar
with.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I was about to say.
We're familiar with that on asmaller level.
You know what I mean it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
It's just a bigger, it's just a bigger stage, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
That's crazy yeah, man, it exists in every level,
for sure.
That's what I'm saying, bro.
You just gotta play the game toplay the game.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Don't idolize your fucking stars or people who you
admire.
Don't idolize them.
They're people I'm telling youlike, they're capable they on
the real shit, right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
they probably don't even fuck with you they probably
don't even care that you thatyou like if they met you if, if
they met you, they wouldn't carethat you like.
They'll care that you boughtthe movie, probably, but they
wouldn't care that you reallyand we have a perception of some
of these people that we thinkthat they would be a certain way
.
No, and we're wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
The thing is, bro, a movie is a product, a play is a
product.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
That's how it's got to be looked at.
Don't get me wrong, it is artbut it's a product.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Is it weird that I feel like and I think maybe we
say this because we're on theother side of it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
But you're like man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
If I was in that position, I would cherish every
person that bought what Ifucking.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
And some do, some do.
I think that's cool to be abeautiful thing.
Some do and some try the factthat you really love my shit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
That's cool as fuck, bro.
That means a lot to me Some do,but Because without you I
wouldn't be here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
But we know that there them, they can't, they
can't meet every every one oftheir fans.
They just can't, they can't doit, they're going.
You know, I'm saying they onlythe people that, because they
got meetings to go to.
So when they do do their littlemeets and shit, those two
people that get the opportunity,they're all they're, they're so
cool and it's like, yeah, butit seems weird, but like again,
this is gonna sound hella biasedyeah and I'm sure other artists

(01:06:22):
have ways of doing this too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
But one thing I really liked and respect about
jay cole is that he would telllike at the beginning of a show
he might do an intro song tostart off and set the tone right
after that song, he would stopthe music.
You'll tell his band to stopplaying.
Everybody turn on, turn on thelights in this.
Motherfucker.
I want y'all, please, can y'allturn on the lights so I can see
everybody here.
I can't thank you guysindividually, but I see you way

(01:06:45):
at the fucking top, nosebleeds.
I see you up there.
The fact to me, bro, and youmight be thinking I think that
that's badass when theyacknowledge those people.
I see you, bro.
I may not be able to thank oneof y'all individually, but I'm
going to give some love to thetop deck right now, because you
motherfuckers paid, you waitedoutside to be in this bitch to
support and see me.
That shit, me, that shit meansa lot to me.
To him say that I'm like butlet me, that's cool as fuck I

(01:07:07):
love that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
That's cool man you know I mean like I hope that's
genuine I hope that is thatshould have fucked me up.
Let me tell you this, bro.
Let me tell you this right, hesaid this I wish I could thank
each of you, right, he could dothat all of them, every single,
come on now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Everybody in that stadium.
He got the time, dude he canthat is true.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
didn't he do it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Yeah, that's fair, you can really he literally
could do like you know, I'mgonna shake everyone's hand.
Why doesn't he do it?
Why not?
I would do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
That's what I'm saying you don't got shit for
the rest of your life.
I mean, if you got a schedulethat's the ambiguity, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
You gotta look.
Look, j Cole's a wordsmithright, so he'll be able to.
He'll be able to me man like,oh, I can't do it, right, but
you know, you know, oh, man,that was so heartfelt like you
played into that shit.
But what I'm saying, actuallydo it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
Yeah, actually do it because you know what's gonna
follow, that is excuses.
Oh, you know, I got a next tourdate, I got next estate.
That's cool, but the thing iswhat people don't understand bro
they won't.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Let me have a choice no, no, no he can do it bro, he
can fucking, he, he can fire hisfucking personal guard right
there.
Fuck you, I'm not leaving thisbitch till I shake everybody's
ass.
Yeah, and they'll have to abideby it.
They have to abide by it, bro,like they have the choice to do
that, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
What if they're like?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
bro, you're on that tour bus right, motherfucking.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Now mark my words, bro, we're gonna pull the plug
on your whole shit.
Mark my words, bro.
The next big star who has likean actual organic following,
where they actually fuck withhim or her, if they go out and
greet everybody like on apersonal bro, they, bro, they're
going to have the fucking world, bro.
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
I agree.
Like I said, I'm not trying topaint him as some perfect human
being.
He has flaws Nobody.
I hope you don't think that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I'm not saying that I would say he's one of the, not
to say like.
I mean, yeah, he is relatable,but he's like down to earth, you
know what I'm saying?
His bike in town and shit, andthat's dope because while and he
actually stops to talk to fans,they have like they have a
recording of it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
he'll get off his bike.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Be like what's up, man?
What's my hey?
Man, I'm showing you love too.
What's your favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
track of mine.
I got a minute.
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
talk to me but it's like I seen that I'm like, okay,
well, that's some hope.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
I mean too good to talk to him and shit.
But imagine if he just he justpulled up just to talk about
whatever he tried.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
He tried that.
There was one time he was likeI love that, you love my music.
How's your day going?
You enjoying this weather?
I love this shit, I love ridingright.
I swear he did that.
One time I was like that's whatwe need more that's what you
need I know, no real shit.
He did that.
I love that.
He did that.
There's literally.
There's a video out there.
If I had it, it I would show itto you.
I don't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
There's an organic thing about it, it's very
organic as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
He literally posed up to somebody.
He's on his bike, bro.
I think.
I believe he was on Sunset.
I think he was in LA.
No, not Sunset.
He was on what's that boulevardthat connects Venice Beach to
fucking Santa Monica.
Cole was there riding his bike.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
Bro was just out there chilling and I guess
someone maybe it was veniceboulevard and he stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
I think it was, and he stopped.
He's like man, aren't youenjoying this weather?
He's like la weird as fuck.
He says right there in thecamera he's like la weird as
fuck, but I love this weather,yeah, and I call you're my
biggest fan.
He's like hey, bro, really I doappreciate that.
Please don't think I don't.
I don't acknowledge that I lovethat, you love, thank you.
He says that, but he's like buthow do you feel about today,
though?
Man, you like this weather?
I'm fucking with his weather aswell as he.

(01:10:28):
I love how he just smoothlytransitioned that.
He was like now, don't he'slike?
He made sure he let them know.
I, I see what you're saying,thank you, but how's your day?
He asked a person like that.
How's your day, though?
Let me ask you how you're doing, you know?

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
how I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
How long was that conversation it was?
It was brief, but I will say atleast he was at enough time to
be, like you, enjoying thisweather.
I'm loving this shit.
But, as you were saying, butpull over there for a minute and
really get to know that person.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Why not Shit you got?

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
all the money in the world, ain't no one going to
tell you you got a good asspoint.
I like what you said.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
You can't do it to everybody.
They work for you.
You can't do it to everybodyand I'm like bro, like I know
you didn't tell no one else atmy level this Like I appreciate
that you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
That you even trust me with this information.
That's how you know it'sgenuine, bro, one of my favorite
actors.
One of my favorite actors I'mnot gonna say his name, but one
of my favorite actors, bro, thatwould pull me aside and yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
And I just listened, bro, and he was telling me I'm
just like, bro, like.
I'm glad that he did that to me, bro, because like, look, I'm
wrong, like I still admired himas a, as an actor.
You know what I'm saying, butI'm like there's not.
It's not often this happens.
It's not often that it happensbut it's not like impossible

(01:11:44):
either.
Yeah, you were like bro.
They're scared of people comingout after their fucking money,
what they've built.
So, they're very selective ofwho they fucking bring in right,
because it's like fuck, likeyou're just going to say.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
That's a win for you then.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
Because you gave them the energy where they felt
secure enough.
Yeah, he doesn't want nothingmoving for more time.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
He don't want no pay for this, and that's what I said
he would ask, like about myname and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Bro, they probably cherish that more than you know,
man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
He asked about my name and everything and I was
like bro, like you actually knowabout my name, because my name
is like, it's like a historicalname and shit, and I'm like, oh
shit, like that's fucking dope,like he actually thought about
like my name and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
He's like that's probably breath of fresh air for
you, because you see so manyplastic ones.
You're like, damn, it's nice tohave someone that I was can
relate to you on a human level,bro, yeah and it's like, and
it's like I know some of hisfamily too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
You know I'm saying but it's like if, if I'm ever
graced enough or blessed enoughto get up to that, to that, to
that level, I know who to fuckwith you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
I'm saying, Like I know who I can invite to my
house.
What's?

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
up bro, I know who I can invite to my house to have a
good time, like hey man bro,you know what I'm saying, like
because because I mean mepersonally like what's it called
Entertainment?
That is something that I, youknow, I already know, like I do
music and shit.
You know what I'm saying soI've always love to do that shit
, but wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
It's a big deal.
You just divulge that publicly.
What?

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
you know, I'm saying like seeing that shit though,
but like, but like seeing thatshit though, like, like in the
flesh, I'm like okay, likethere's.
No, I respect it.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
no, and that's cool that you because you I mean he
said something you want to be apart of right you do, you do
your music oh yeah you want to.
It's what you want to be part ofthis right.
So it's like man, when you seethat there's people at that
level that can be real with you,it's like you said.
Like you said, my circle isstill going to be small.
Yeah, I reached those goals.
I'm going to have individualsthat I work with, sure, but I'm
gonna have individuals that Ifuck with that are going to come

(01:13:39):
to my house, be in my innercircle, and the ones that are
going to be around me, forbecause I know that they,
they're not there just for thatreason.
They've been there before.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
There was nothing when it was dirt like bro that
was a really genuine bro, whenthe ones, when they're calling
you by name, yeah like hey blahblah, blah.
It's like you know my firstname.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
First of all that's wild, bro, and they're calling
you.
That's cool as fuck what the?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
fuck bro.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
And it's like did you experience that while you
fucking shoe?

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
in the breeze, bro, and I'm just like bro, like I
feel like it's crazy bro likewhat's up, man, how you doing?
yeah, bro, like he cuts out yeahbut, I'm just like what the
fuck like?
What's up bro?
Like like males and females broyeah I'm just like yo, like
it's.
It's kind of like one of thosethings where, like you'll,
you'll like, think about it andlike and like.
Of course this is my ego, butit's like, it's like that's

(01:14:25):
where I'm supposed to be.
Yeah, with these people youknow what I'm saying In this
level.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I don't think that's the ego thing, man, you can say
it's ego.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
But Everyone has a dream of that Not everybody, but
some people have a dream of,like that's where I'm supposed
to be.
Yeah, you know what I'msupposed to be, and it doesn't
necessarily have to be rich, butit's like on a higher level.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Amongst these people yeah, Because you don't
necessarily Amongst this crowd,Because the thing is rich is
very subjective, right you?

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
can be rich monetarily, but you can also be
a genius right Einstein right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Rich as fuck, right.
He may not have been abillionaire, but he saved the
fucking world.
He was one of the minds thatwas part of saving the world in
World War II Nah, facts Atomicbomb too right.
So there's different types.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
One of the minds that crafted the atomic bomb, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
So there's different types of wealth.
I think a lot of the greatesttypes of wealth are obviously
relationships you know what I'msaying Legacy and stuff like
that, but of course, what youcan also bring to the world.
You know, I just wish, wishthat obviously that my life
didn't go the way it did,because I'll for sure have sunk
my teeth way into that shit andjust fucking take it all the way
and that's why I asked you, andthat's why I asked you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
You know, do you think that having that
connection is an intro?

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
it could be possibly an intro to that world, it could
be I think it's possible,because I think, look, look, I
think I think you could, I thinkthat one of them liked you
enough At the guard house theywould have been like hey man,
roll up to the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
We're having a spot.
Come chill with us, come talkwith us, man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Oh no, I've had that, but what?
I'm saying is like I mean, butother than that, though.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Have you ever had anything Deeper than that happen
?
Like, hey man, I really fuckwith you bro.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
I want to make you A like that it's.
It's a business thing, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
It's a business sometimes they'll invite you up
there and then that's all.
That's where it ends.
Yeah, you might not even seethem.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
You don't enjoy the festivities and shit, right well
you might chill and shit, butit's just like okay, y'all just
chilling.
You gotta understand too.
Is like these, at this level,bro, it sucks.
But it's like they're alwaysthinking about the next thing,
that's bringing in the fuckingcheck.
So it's like so it's like.
It's like, it's like, if youcome in twos, it's like, oh,
even better, okay, like he'scool and and we can make money
together.
You always, always think aboutthat.

(01:16:33):
Like they're always trying tomake money.
Just look, think about it.
But mansions and shit, that'sjust not cheap.
You know, I'm saying all thesecars.
You know I'm saying charteredplanes.
That's not cheap.
It's not cheap at all, bro.
That's why they're always doyou always see these folks got a
hundred movies under their belt, bro, and they're still broke.
Like they're still.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
I'm saying Not all of them obviously you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
There's very few that are broke you know what I'm
saying.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Am I behind you or are you up here?

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
I'm ahead of you, bro .
You're definitely ahead of butuh, what's it called?
Where was I at um I?
Threw you off my bad dog, it'sall good, nah, but it's always
about the money.
You know, I'm saying not, notalways, but it's like.
It's like if you can make agenuine connection, no one

(01:17:19):
really ignores a genuineconnection they can't.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
I think you know why.
Any level.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
I think it's because it's a feeling oh yeah, so like,
so, like it doesn't matter whatlifestyle you're in bro
Criminal lifestyle If you makeany lifestyle when you make a
connection with an individualbro or like an imprint you know,
what I'm saying.
It's felt right.
So when that happens, bro.
It's like there's one of thosethings where, like if people

(01:17:46):
just knew the future, they'd beable to anticipate this shit and
be able to capitalize on it.
You know, I'm saying sometimesyou really don't know, and it
can come down to what'shappening like man this.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
I'll be even practical, even like very simple
.
With it you'd be like man thisgirl is.
This is the back part of thattoo man, you're like man she
just seems cool as fuck.
But that shit could be.
You know, you don't know howit's gonna turn out.
It always starts out cool, italways does, and then you're
like fuck bro why did I go downthis road, bro?

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
I had man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
I'm not saying that's my particular situation, but
I'm saying that that can easilyhappen to somebody else and it's
, and there's been moments wherein the past relationships I've
had that's definitely been thecase.
Yeah, clearly, I mean youwouldn't have exes off the
record, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
I I mean, obviously I'm not gonna watch everything
no I could have had.
I could have had a upperechelon.
Like I had a brief moment bro,a brief moment bro sorry guys,
you don't get it there's actualgeneral.
There's actual genuineconnection bro yeah, and you
felt it too.
Yeah, and it was just like fuck, it's like all right, fine,
don't without saying the name.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Did you?
Nah, you didn't hit that shit.
Nah, I didn't get too, bro, Iwould've been like pulled around
the guard house.
Yeah, just because I'll be herfucking shit sideways you gotta
think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
It's like there was, it was the.
In my opinion, right, it wasthe sorry, that's part of me
feedback it was the, thestatuses, right, I'm just this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
She's aware and you're aware.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
I mean, I'm aware, but it's like, I'm like what am
I going to?

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
do.
That don't mean shit, though,when it comes to pipe, what's
the matter?
You're getting smacked.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, but like she's
upper echelon, like super upperechelon, you know where it's
like oh, like, who's he?

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
no, that's not by the headline who is he, but what I?

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
think is like you know, sometimes, bro, they, they
look at that too much whereit's like, oh, like, they're not
gonna be good for my image whocare?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
and it's like bro.
So okay, because you're right.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
unfortunately, bro, these fuckers are ninjas
sometimes, or you have the havethe press.
No, or this, sorry, or this.
They're not going to be goodfor my image or they might
surpass me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Maxine potential.
That happens too, yeah thatcould.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
That happens too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
I don't doubt that Imagine if what's his name,
Kevin Federline was a fuckingsinger.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Or like you said imagine I gave him 15 minutes of
fame and they blow up over thatshit, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Imagine Kevin Federline that's a good one.
Yeah, imagine if he was fuckingKevin Federline.
that's a good point Imagine ifthis fool could fucking sing
like Bieber or Usher, bro, he'dbe on a different level.
He'd be like, oh shit, likethis fool's better than Britney
Spears, blah, blah, blah, thisand that.
Like he can do all this mind.

(01:20:29):
Fuck up there, bro.
And that's probably why theymove the way they move with that
shit, bro.
They move really slick bro.
However, people make mistakes.
Okay, of course, you know whatI'm saying.
They move slick, but the thingis, because they want to
associate with people as well,they have to take the risk to go
out.
But see, man, they're going outlike fucking Batman and shit.
Right, you know what I'm'msaying.

(01:20:51):
2 am and shit, they go tintingwindows.
That's true.
They have a secretive bro, like, yeah, they are.
They come back to the fuckingbat cave.
Right, it's like man, fuck,you're crazy at all.
But the people out there,they're like oh, that, that,
that, that's a nice car and it'slike man, I know whose car that
is you know who's in that car,you know because me, bro, I
remember.
I mean obviously they have newcars now, I'm sure of it, but at
the time I had plates memorized, I had all kinds of share.
I'm just like, oh yeah, that'sthem, and I was sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I'll see some of them around and I feel like a lot of
them stay away from theweekends when they go out to do
shit.
No, because they know wrongreally wrong they bro every.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
Look at that level, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
You're on a 365 day vacation, okay, must be there is
no fucking clocking in exactlyno, no, I'm glad you said you
own the no.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
I'm glad you said that no I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
I'm glad you said that, because the reality I feel
is is the case is like what youwould go wait for the weekend
to go experience.
They'll do one on tuesday,every day.
You see what I'm saying everyday so so I'm saying where I was
going with that?
No where I was going with thatand where I was going with that
is like.
So the likelihood of runninginto one of them on a Saturday
or Sunday is probably slim tonone right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
None is necessarily slim to none, but just don't be
surprised.
It's like, bro, think about it.
Bro, you got the freedom to dowhatever the fuck you want.
I feel like going out.
Okay, I'll go.
I wanna sleep all day.
I'll sleep all day.
Yeah, I wanna do this all day.
I'll do this all day.
I wanna go to fucking Tahitirandomly.
I'll go to Tahiti.
I got a plane down in fuckingVan Nuys.
I'm going to fucking.

(01:22:16):
I'm going to fucking Tahiti.
I'm going to fucking Tokyo,like that's how it is.
It's the instant.
It's literally free, will you?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
know what I mean, that's that's free will
manifested right there that'sjust that's okay.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
I'll say this being rich being rich is having is
like you have like for for for atime, unless you do some
fucking such shit, you have youhave unrestricted free will,
like you can do whatever thefuck you want.
Yeah, like, and you're stillmaking money because you have
businesses, you have investments, you have all kinds of shit.
So there's a certain there's athreshold, bro.
Once you pass that, you justkeep going up as long as you're
still making money, because youhave businesses, you have
investments, you have all kindsof shit.
So there's a threshold, bro.
Once you pass that, you justkeep going up as long as you're

(01:22:51):
fucking smart with it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
No, you're not wrong.
You just keep going up Once youdo that you'll be straight For
sure.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
So if you ever hit the lottery, bro, invest that
shit, no facts.
Live as if you were making thesame wages that you're going to
live.
Your bad wealth is going tolast forever.
That's fair, you know, I'msaying.
But that's how they do it too,because they're also they all,
they all have kids, you knowsaying they have families and of
course they got vultures too.
So they gotta fend off all thisshit.

(01:23:15):
So they're, they're in a,they're in a very specific
bubble where they're on guard,but they still want to enjoy
life.
Right, but they, they figuredout that they, they can't enjoy
life with everybody anymore.
They have to do it.
They have to be very selective.
And it sucks, because whyshould my wealth affect who I
associate with?
But it does it does, and notonly that in this world where

(01:23:37):
people now can get paid foroffenses, even just offenses
that aren't even proven, whywouldn't a scumbag want to
exploit that Someone?

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
you interacted with erected with Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Sometimes it's righteous right when someone was
actually wrong by someone who'sa rich scumbag, right In this
situation.
Yeah Well, we don't know forsure if it's a situation, but it
happens, it happens bro.
So that's the dilemma, bro.
So it's like I understand thefucking dilemma between the two
Because it's like with Jay-Z, Irespect him as an artist and as

(01:24:10):
a person, I idolize him Like bro.
That's for every album.
That's why this situation is socrazy.
But me, I don't think he did itright, I don't either.
But let's say he came out ofthat he did.
It would fucking hurt me, bro.
It would hurt, like my opinion,like damn, like what did I miss

(01:24:33):
?

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
obviously I didn't know, but it's like fuck, well,
you see, we again.
It goes back to what we weresaying earlier.
Like you know, you idolize, ifwe, if we idolize a particular
person, we, we forget toremember to sometimes and this
is, I'm victim of this well aswell, actually, what people like
?
Oh, yeah, for sure, brother,thank you I'm also, you know, in
my case, like, obviously, Iused to, like, I used to love

(01:24:53):
kanye bro before j cole, and Iwas like oh, you're a big j cole
.
Yeah, j cole's my favorite, myfavorite rapper now, but before
j cole, and even j cole, I'llsuffer this with him too.
Like, you're victim to thinkingthat what they portray on
camera is how they are 24 7 andit's not.
The reality is, they're not.
But before cole, it was kanyewest.

(01:25:14):
Holy shit, look what happened.
Look what he revealed you knowwhat?
I'm saying, and honestly I'mgonna say this straight up on
the record, bro, I'm I'm nothurt, but I'm bothered by kanye
because yeah, that was mymotherfucker bro, his first four
albums.
I loved him, bro, that was myfavorite fucking rapper.
Bro 100 back in the day,growing up before cole was a
thing before j cole, you madehis spit and splash whatever you

(01:25:36):
want to call it.
Kanye west was my favorite bro,like whatever show my age.
But then I saw what he was andhow he was showing himself and
I'm like man.
Now I'm starting to get aglimpse into how you are really
outside of all your shit, bro.
Like there's a lot of conflictthere and therapy and god knows
what else you fucking need man,but you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
Like holy shit, connie, one of my favorites and
it started to reflect in hismusic bro, I'm like what is
going on with this dude.
Like you man, connie is one ofmy favorite artists too.
Yeah, he's actually the onethat got me into fucking like
production.
You know I'm saying sure, but Ido understand.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Like once his mom passed, he snapped yeah and
that's the turning point after,after, after 808's heartbreak.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Yeah well, it's not the same bro, he's just
different.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
You know I'm saying yeah, so that's why we say his
first four, you know were mypersonal favorites, then his mom
after dark twisted fantasy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
He just kept them grounded, and the thing is about
it.
What here's the, I think whatfucked with I agree agree,
though I think his mama wasturning point.
What really fucked with him isthe fact that she got it because
of a surgery.
Yeah, breast augmentation,right, or something like that, I
think so something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
Yeah, something went wrong, but he funded it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
It was obviously because of his success, like
that, like she could do it, hewas.
So he has a guilt about it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
So now it's like fuck .

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
So his internal battle, whoknows what he's going through?
Right, I'm not going to saywhat he's going through, but
it's like if it was me, I wouldprobably be fucked up too.
Like knowing him, I'm like fuck, like that was my fault, like
what do I have?

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
to live for and he was close to his mama.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
What do I, you?
He obviously wants to do, right, you know, but he's human.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
You know everyone's more, everyone mourns
differently and shit like that,our shortcomings, all the ways
of you're right, so that that'strue.
That's a good way.
There's a pretty goodperspective to present.
But anyway, before we continuewith that man, is there any?
Before we move on to our lastquick topic, is there anything
else you want to add to thewhole jay-z situation?
Last, last, last thoughts onthat before we move on to the to
the I he's innocent.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
I hope me too.
I hope the allegations aren'ttrue me too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
I love his music man.
I don't wish him downfall onany man bro, even who their
fucking friends are.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
I don't know them the way they know them you know
like, I hope he still gets to dothe Super Bowl and all that
shit, but so do I.
I just hope that this stuff,you know, I hope he gets
exonerated and he's not.
Obviously he's not, you know,in jail or anything, but I hope
no.
The charges.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
He's still with his family, but he's still got to
explain that to his daughter,like he said in his thing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
You know because it's like if you really you don't
know, you don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Exactly, I was about to say that.
Sorry, I don't want to cut youoff for you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:08):
No, yeah, you just you just don't know.
So it's like if it, if it comesout to be true, like it's just
like damn, like I mean, I'm not,I can't, you know, support him,
yeah, you can't subscribe to itanymore.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
I can't, and that sucks because he had a lot of
good—he mentioned him earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
He's the one rapper bro where I'm just like bro,
like his style— I remember Iused to try to emulate his
fucking style too much Did you?

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
I was trying to like— and you would do your stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
I was just trying to fucking like really see where he
was coming from.
How do you do this?
And I'm thankful on the sidebarno, no, I hear you.
You kind of really analyzed,right, you broke him down you
look at the analytics, the wayhe writes and shit like all that
shit.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Yeah but what I will say, bro, is I'm actually happy
and I'm thankful that you shareda little bit of that with the
public right now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
I know you haven't told too many people you do your
music, man, so thank you fordoing that, bro, and maybe
eventually, if you guys arelucky in the future, maybe,
maybe uh furious will show yousome of his music.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
I'm not gonna push it too hard because that's up to
him, but the fact that you hey,we're showing some progress, the
fact that you're even talkingabout it, bro, you know what I'm
saying.
You didn't want to even do that.
I waited for this man todivulge that information.
I knew about it beforehand, butsince he took the liberty of
doing that shit right now totell everybody, thank you for
letting them know, man, becauseyou are talented brother and I

(01:29:26):
know it sounds biased as fuck,but I know how you are and I
know you got something there,bro, appreciate it no doubt no.
But I was saying, bro, like Ireally hope that you know when
you're ready if you want to showthem some shit, bro, I
absolutely put it in here, man,because you show me some stuff.
I know that you're when you'reready to.
Oh yeah, you know.
I don't want to put too muchfocus on it, but it's cool man.
He's got some talent.
You're good, bro, and it's likeyou get inspired by who you

(01:29:46):
grew up listening to you knowI'm saying so no doubt that's.
You did your thing, bro, and I'mexcited for the world gets to
hear it.
But I mean, you know, all thatbeing said, it's a tough
situation when you, you know,you're inspired people, the
people that inspired you rightto do what you're doing with
music.
You see them in situations likethis, you're like, well, fuck,

(01:30:07):
I don't want to give him thecredit, right, god willing.
You know, I blow up one day.
I'm at the breakfast club orI'm, you know, talking to ebro,
whatever the case, right?
you know I'm saying, or evenfucking man, ebro, hey, shout
out to ebro man you know, oreven sway bro who?

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
whatever, whatever hip-hop form, you see yourself
in front of right fuckingrosenthal, whatever rosenthal
rosenberg rosenberg or rosenbergyou know what I'm saying and
rosenberg is cool, bro, you knowwhat I'm saying.
He's actually.
He's actually like the voice ofreason, bro no, I agree, he is
cool as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
I agree, I agree, I like that.
That's true, he has a fuckingdifferent like you know what I'm
saying.
The hip-hop relate.
You know I'm saying the hip-hopuh, uh, it's people you know
what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
he bros like hip-hop.
He bros like hip-hop.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
He's like man you know what I'm saying.
I like.
That's what I love about him,bro, and that's why you like him
too I'm sure he's cool as fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:30:53):
Charlamagne, charlamagne, but angie's left so
angie did leave.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
I don't know how breakfast club gonna be now, but
you still have I mean it'sgonna be straight it'll be all
right, yeah, they got what's.
I don't wanna get the namewrong and she didn't have a good
um who's the main fucking hostover there?

Speaker 3 (01:31:08):
you gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
It's ebro, it's no, no, no, a breakfast club or
somebody else.
Charlamagne dj envy my bad yeah, that's right, dj envy and
angie and charlamagne, that's,that's the breakfast club, right
, but no, I'm saying ebro gothis own show on hot 97, I
believe yeah, I'm wrong, brother, my bad yeah, but dj envy, you
know all those cats, bro.
Point is, if you're in asituation where you're talking

(01:31:29):
to them, I wouldn't want thoseinterviews that you're having.
And then when they ask you, ifthey ask you right, if those hip
hop personalities were to askyou what was your, one of your
inspirations, you're reluctantto say Jay-Z, if this shit
sticks.

Speaker 2 (01:31:45):

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
That would suck, would you still do it?

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Would you still?

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
name him good.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
I respect that, because that's before, and
that's the reality that builtyou oh yeah, that's the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:31:52):
It's like look, look, look.
I'm not in charge of what hedoes with his shit.
I'm not in charge of that shit.
So it's like it is what it is,but it's like it's, it's, it's
just, it's disheartening, yeahwhen you do find it would hurt
to be like man if it is likevalid.
It's like damn.
I put my inspiration in someonewho's like evil.
So that's the only thing aboutit.
But like his body, work to meis dope, to me is fucking dope

(01:32:15):
my most favorite album, bro,reasonable Doubt Blueprint.
Blueprint 3 Black Album to meMagna Carter was.
It was cool, it was more likemodernist but like it wasn't
terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Reasonable Doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Blueprint, the Blueprint series, and then
fucking Black Album like thatwas, like my shit, those were
his definitely top top notchalbums.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
I know people involved with that shit too.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
So it's like it makes it even more, more like kind of
personable too.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I know you got an insight.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Yeah, like I know, yeah I know like I got
connections with the producerwho worked on one of the songs
too, so it's like it's dope tohear, like just you want to love
bros, no, when you can beinspired by an artist like that,
right, but you also have your,your placement.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
You know, I'm saying that you have meaning, meaning,
it has influence and it showsmeaning.
Okay, well, I guess what I'mtrying to say is what's awesome
about that is that you're notjust a fan of hip-hop, you
actually have something to bringto it.
Right, if you were whack atrhymes, bro, it would show.
Let's be honest.
But from what I've been able tohear, I'm like yo, you're able
to.
You know I'm saying articulateit, but also make it your own,

(01:33:24):
like, okay, I was hell ofinspired by this person yeah,
but I'm gonna bring my littlefucking.
You know what I'm saying and youcan hear it, bro.
That's what.
That's what I'm trying to say.
That's what I'm getting at.
Appreciate it I love.
No, I mean that, brother forsure.
All right, believe me, bro, I'ma hip-hop head, my damn self.
So if, if I didn't feelsomething was refreshing, like
damn dog, you actually havesomething, you have a say in the
conversation.
It clearly shows who you wereinspired by, but you have your

(01:33:45):
own flavor to add to the mix,and that's what I love about it,
brother.
So if I could say it here, man,on this platform, now that you
said it out loud and I'm public,though.
Keep doing what you're doing,and when you're ready to show it
to our audience and toeverybody, we'll be here for it,
bro, and I can't wait to hear aproject from you, because there
is definitely something there,man I appreciate that don't
suppress yourself too long,brother, because I I know it,
they're gonna be like oh, you'rehearing the boys I'm working

(01:34:05):
man yeah, fuck all that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
I know what I heard.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
I'm glad to hear that I just work in silence.
I work in silence though Facts.
I respect it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Y'all hearing it here first again, brother, I just
want to give you a flower, bro,because that's the first step,
in my opinion, and I mean, andshow people what you work.
I know you haven't shownanything yet, but to even speak
on it, you know what I'm saying,cause.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I know you were so tightly knit.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
I'm just a very appreciative of you even
mentioning it, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
You know like I'm very private, you know what I'm
saying.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Yes, you are brother, and just so y'all know, for the
record it was hard to get itout of this man I was when you
played it, if you don't mind mesaying when you played it for me
and my brother.
We got to hear it.
We had JJ on you guys rememberJJ?
He's been on the past coupleepisodes in the past.
We had him on those fewepisodes.
We had a nice moment off therecord with Furious here and he

(01:35:06):
showed us some of his music.
And I found out that day thatyou did music.
Remember that shit?
I was like man, this is verythat's like bro.
Why are you holding this back?
Man, like I'm just being realwith him because he knows, man,
if I had felt some other wayabout it, I would have done it,
he would have let you know.
Yeah, 100%.
But the fact that I was likeman, but why haven't you?
And even like this is bro, likewhat's up, man?

(01:35:30):
You were like, you guys hadyour little conversation.
I won't divulge how that went,but what I will say is that when
I was like man, bro, why haveyou held this back?
This is, this is good man.
Yeah, I'm not ready yet.
I'll do it, I'll show everybodywhen I'm ready, but I'm only
telling y'all.
I haven't told many.
So to me, I took that very,very, you know, to heart, didn't
mention anything on the, on thepodcast till now.
Again, I wouldn't even shit, Iwouldn't even said it today if
you didn't mention it you knowthe fact that you did.

(01:35:53):
I was like, hey, man, I'm gonnalet them know.
From what I was able to hear,and I'm sure you've gotten
better since then.
I know y'all sharpened the tool, bro.
Like it's just like, all rightyou heard some old shit wait
till you hear me.
Now you thought that, good, Waittill I show you some new shit
I've been working on.
Yeah, I believe that man andyou know, and just so y'all know
, there's been times here andthere where Furious has been

(01:36:16):
like hey, man, I bought a newmic.
You know I'm working on someshit.
Hope I digress.
The point I'm getting at is Ihope that one day, when you're
really, when you're willing andready to divulge a project to
the world, we can review it onthis show man, I would love to
do that.
That's the first thing I'm gonnado I appreciate that yeah thank

(01:36:37):
you for sure, bro, and again,let's show them love one more
time, y'all, because that thatthat takes a lot, and we
appreciate you, bro.
I really mean that, man,honestly.
I mean that with love, bro, youknow, but I you know.
With that being said, we goback to the topic.
But hey, that's.
It means a lot, bro, and I knowhe's one of your influences.

(01:36:59):
I hope he gets you know.
This shit's not true.
I really hope this bitch islying.
I don't want to call her abitch.
If you really were a victim,I'm sorry, you know.
Hope the facts come to lightyou know, with that you got any
final thoughts before we move onto the last part here.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
I hope she's lying.
You know what I mean?
That's everything we said,right, like bro.
Like Jay-Z's done so much forhis fucking legacy, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
It's like man, billionaire all that because of
that, yeah, fuck bro, like, andI think that's why and I have
faith just because he was likeshow yourself, fuck all that
like.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Yeah, there's a dark side to that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
We were delved into that, yeah, but let's say it is
like show yourself, call thefacts.
Where's your proof?
You want to say I did this?
Go ahead, say your name and sayhow it happened and show your
proof and we'll move on fromthere.
I think he said that and ifthere's truth to that right, and
he said it with with likeconviction yeah, go ahead.
You'll shit.
You'll surprise me even shit.
If you have something, if youhave some tangible shit, you
know what I mean.

(01:37:57):
I hope that's the case, becauseyou know when you're in that
position, you're on top of theworld.
Oh, yeah, go ahead.
I would love to see youmanifest some tangible shit.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Let's see it, because honestly I hope that's the case
that like the thing is bro,like at that level bro show some
hope in the world.
Man like you know, bro, likewhen they lose bro yeah, it's
not like they just fucking fall,like that it's not like they
like fall automatically down tofucking these like living
conditions, right facts, butthey do lose a big chunk, they
do they're like I can't, I can'treally fly to paris like that

(01:38:27):
today.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
You know, I, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Yeah, doesn't mean like that they can't, but this
time it's actually going to bemoney that they spend.
You know what I'm?

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
saying Nothing that's coming back you know, no for
sure, because a lot of this shitlike people who are tied with
them are going to cut ties.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
All businesses, target fucking Sam's Club,
whatever.
Jesse Penny oh no, we Evenwhat's her name?
Beyonce.
Now they might show her littlefavoritism because she's Beyonce
.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
She's her own entity.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
She's going to have a little, yeah, but still she's
going to lose deals too, becauseshe's married, she's going to
feel it.
Woo Damn you know what I'msaying?
I didn't even think of that.
It's a big deal.
Yo, I didn't think of that.
Blue, Ivy Carter, the wholething.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
So the thing is I really hope that this is not
true because if it is brothey're all fucked because
guilty by association.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Now don't get me wrong.
They can still distancethemselves from him, but it's
going to be a tainted legacyBecause it's dad and it's
husband, you know what I'msaying, you know what I mean,
you know what I'm saying.
They're going to have to comeout with some really, really
dope shit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
That's going to hurt their family.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
Yeah, because the thing isabout it, bro.
At the end of the day, music isa product, it's art and a
product.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
It is art, it's not just.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
The thing is that the consumer is not looking at it
as a product.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
Yeah, no, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
They're, they see how much, how much the album costs,
right, but they they appreciatethe art, but the person who's
making it went into it.
But the person who's making islike how much, how many sales I
got?
How is it?
How is it resonating with withpeople?
How is it doing?

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
That's probably the first few questions they have
that's the thing they're goingto be like.
What am?
I paying and actual sales here.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
But that's where the discrepancy comes from.
When it's like, people are likeoh man, where's all the real
music at, where's the shit thatwe can relate to?
But the thing is everyone'sdifferent, bro.
Some people like fuck shit,some people like that bullshit.
Some people like the fuckingMcDonald's shit.
They like it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
I'm too.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
I don't know if I'm saying tracks like that I do.
I'm not gonna say I don't, I'mjust strictly conscious.
There's no way, I'm a human.
There's some, there's someratchet shit I like, but it's
not.
It's not a lot, yeah, butyou're not you're not like yeah,
bro, you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
You know what I mean, you're not like I can
appreciate the art even in, itshows them what you've shown me
you don't have but as far as butyou, but you cannot understand
and enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Yeah, like, yeah, like entertainment wise, like
what I what I listen to like Ican still appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
But I'm saying, like you know, I'm saying it might,
it might no doubt it might fitthe mood and it actually might
give me ideas, or it's like okay, like yeah, I didn't think of
it like this.
You know, I'm saying becauseyou to say that it's an
experience for sure, the oneswho aren't fake, obviously I
can't like count them, but theones who are real, it's like
okay, like Boozy, or whatever,like that Boozy, you know what

(01:41:16):
I'm saying fucking Boozy bro,you got you know what I'm saying
.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
Webby, you got Boozy you got Webby.
Kevin Gates, you, you gotwhat's it called Ace Hood.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Okay, he's dropping names.
Meek Mill, I love Ace Hood.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Disregarding the whole fucking Diddy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Party shit.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
There's such shit, meek Mill's dope.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
You know what I'm saying I like that, I agree.
You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
I'm saying I agree.
So Absol K-Dot Schoolboy Jthey're all solid, bro.
Every name you just said theyhave their good music, man, and
there's more unnamed that Ihaven't you know what I'm saying
.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
I love that you named Ace Hood, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:41:52):
I'm falling back to that, bro.
He's been how many projects?

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
has that motherfucking dropped.

Speaker 3 (01:41:56):
He's been looked over to me, bro, bro, ever since
fucking like ever since Bugatti,I feel like he's just been.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Hey man, I know you don't know who the fuck we are
if you watch this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
Thank you exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
Ace Hood, bro, mad respect, that's a hip hop artist
right there.
Not that the other guys wenamed aren't.
They are, of course but thisman has dropped so many
motherfucking projects I can'tkeep up with his shit, bro.
Ace Hood's dropped what damnmixtapes alone he's dropped lot,
bro you get the point.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
But the thing is, bro , I just respect that man's
contribution to hip-hop bro forsure.
When you said that name I waslike that's how I know my boy
not that I doubted you beforeI'm just saying they hear you
say that I was like you know,like that's what's up.
Yeah, no, like you as a, as anartist, I think you you're, you
have to listen to other artistsno, no doubt you can't be
versatile.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
That name group was bro, it's all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:42:46):
It's great, you can't be an artist without knowing
who the artist is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
I was about to say that, just because you ain't
making the type of shit they'remaking, you still make your
brand, but you're inspired by it.
You can still fuck with it, youcan still enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Okay bro, I'm not a gangster.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
No, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
I can listen to gangster rap, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
You can appreciate it .
Shit, I was a big game fan.
I didn't know nothing aboutBloods bro, but shit, I love
this music.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
That's not my lifestyle Facts.
You know what I'm saying Othershit.
I can definitely relate to.
Doesn't mean I haven't beeninto no crazy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
What if he was in?
Exactly Just because it, heyman, even if it wasn't gang
related, he even said even likeshit man.
I talk about scenarios like ithappened to a regular man.
Right, there be some shit onthe street and he ain't no bitch
, he ain't no pussy andmotherfucker going to stand for
his name.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
He's just not affiliated, he don't need a
color.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Bro when he said that I was like game three bro he
was like you're going to standon yourself as a man, you ain't
a blood, you ain't a crit,because you over there, as a man
showing your flags as a humanbeing, bro, Like you ain't, I
don't got to rep in no color.
You over here is oversteppingyour boundaries Like I could

(01:43:55):
have a situation that happenedthat was gang related.
That happened to a regular manand he stood on his ten toes and
he came out of it alive.
He came out of it like a G,even though he ain't repping no
set.
That's the point.
I'm to see that and hear thatfrom someone who was very rooted
in something like that.
For him to acknowledge that andbe like I still salute you.
You may not carry a flag andwave it, but I still salute you

(01:44:15):
as a fucking man-to-man.
You were on some gangster shit,bro, and that happens in our
daily life sometimes, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
In different ways, and that's not to disrespect any
of the OGs.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
No, no, no, no doubt.
Whatever you said, set yourecommend or?

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
like any artist you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Like Pac, big L, big E, you know what I'm saying.
Like those Jam Master J, youknow what I'm saying.
Mc Hammer yeah, no doubt youknow.
From LL Cool J, you know.
Doug E Fresh, yeah, all kindsyou know.
So it's just, it's art.
You know what I'm saying 100%.
So it's like you have to listento this shit, you have to you
know what I'm saying.
If you really want to beversatile and there's more,

(01:44:50):
because it's just going to makeyou a better artist.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Yeah, because you what, talib Qualey?

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Talib Mos Def, all of them, man, he's a big one, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
That's the contributor right, they just
won't say it.
Bro, did you get inspired bythem?
Of course, bro.
Have you heard?

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
have you heard Aesthetic, the album by fucking
Mos Def yes, yes, I have, no, no, I have.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
I have heard it.
Fucking Jim bro.
Yes, I know what you're talkingabout, and that was when he.
Aesthetic bro, he went.
That came out back in the.

Speaker 3 (01:45:19):
He went into his, to his jazz experimental era with
that kind different vibes youknow different type of songs.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
You don't notice, I think, when you come into that
genre, bro, because you know how.
What's the word I'm looking for?
You know how?
Um, how do you describe that,bro?
I wouldn't say it's objective,but you know how?
Very part man, that doesn'teven sound right anyway, I'm
just gonna say it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:44):
What are we talking about?
Particular your jazz, just jazzin particular the the genre of
jazz right, okay, I feel like ah, fuck it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
Subjective is probably the best way to
describe it.
How subjective that genre isright, because people are like,
oh, you used too many trumpets,or no, you didn't use enough of
this.
It's a genre of music thatmakes you feel right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
That's the thing Jazz is about.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
the music I was about to say that, and if you wanted
to use other trombones becausethat's how you felt in that
moment, that's how it is, orwhatever instrument you use,
right, because it's veryinstrumental.
You've heard jazz.
There's no lyrics in it, it'sjust instruments and it sounds
amazing.
I really feel like bro and I'mgoing to go on some fucking
weird hippie shit right now.
I feel like jazz is very, veryrhythmic, beautiful, amazing

(01:46:27):
painting that you can do withsound.
Yeah, if I had to describe jazz, it's a fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
It's like you took a paintbrush roll and you just
blah, blah, blah.
It's like okay To add lyrics tothat, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
You're playing with a you know, jazz is like okay,
jazz is.
This is for the.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
I got emotional there .

Speaker 3 (01:46:48):
Jazz for the PC is what's it called urban classical
music yes, okay, yes, that'swhat.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
That's what I would see it as okay, thanks thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
You know, I'm saying because it does have those
nuances.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
You know, I'm saying it's like it's like holy shit,
like what the like?

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
where's it going?
But like you do, feel it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
You do.
It's a vibe, it's a rhythm inyour soul, bro, if you're
connected with it, but there's arhythm to it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
You know, I'm saying the thing about classical music,
bro, is that it's it's.
There's no drums, there's nosnares none of that it's horns
strings piano.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
This is that simple and don't think flutes and shit
like that, that can take yousomewhere.
Man bro, I'm sorry man, I'mfucked if we're getting
musically connected.
You're kind here, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
Hey, man, I love this , I'm loving this vibe, bro,
telling you man, man, it's umjazz, jazz is dope.
So like me, like when I heardwhat's it called like pimple
butterfly, yeah, I was about toask you about that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:33):
I love, I love this.
Let's talk about the biggestartist let's talk about the
biggest hip-hop artist right now.
I love what he did on that shit.
You know, so did I like he.

Speaker 3 (01:47:39):
He fucking took a chance on that, bro walls.
People couldn't yeah, yeah thatsong.

Speaker 1 (01:47:43):
If these walls could talk, bro, most of them, bro,
and he put a lot of jazz in thatshit bro.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
He said bro, all right in 95, all right and all
right and 95 he had a lot ofgood and 95 was off of um big
steppers.

Speaker 1 (01:47:55):
I'm tripping wow, but um man but that one's good
black of the berry.
What's that song?

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
that's off of pimpa, though that was off black of the
berry, yeah that was on thesame album, though we're talking
about that one.
Oh yeah, that was a jazz album,yeah okay but, um, wait a like,
wait a minute.
I know I got a few years, but Iknow Walls.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
If I can be honest with you personally, walls stuck
out to me the most jazz wise,you know what I'm talking about.
On Walls right of course youknow what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
yeah, I'm saying we don't send some shit, bro,
double entendres.

Speaker 1 (01:48:27):
You know, bubba bubba was slamming man he was
slamming walls vocally literallyand fucking musically, bro.
Of course I know what he'stalking about.
He says walls but I'm sayingthat song personally for me and
it was a very jazzy vibe yeah,that's the artist jazz you're
right, and to pimp a butterflyas an artist.
That's a very beautifulsonically.
That's why I actually bought iton vinyl recently, actually

(01:48:49):
three days, three days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
I picked it up on vinyl.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
I saw it at Target.
I picked that shit up.
It's only Kendrick Godwin.
I didn't have it on vinyl, butI was, like you know what I
really do love this song.
I mean, I love the song, lovethis album for what it did with
jazz Because, like I told you,it's such a very.
I feel like when you involvelyrics with jazz, you got to be
careful, because jazz is alreadypower, already powerful Right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
Just being by itself, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
Like we, we just discussedright now the last 15 minutes or
so.
It's a.
It's like you're taking apaintbrush already and that shit
can take you to another planet.
Hell yeah Just vibing on what,what you're hearing sound wise,
so to and make it bigger andelevate it, elevate it, exactly.
So, even though, again, cole, Idon't agree with you.
Dog, put Negroes to sleep.

(01:49:34):
Nah, dog, that shit to me, bro,if you listen to it.
What he added to it lyrically,kendrick, I have to give it to
you bro smash.
I'm not a big Kendrick smash bro, right, would you agree, bro?

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
when I heard the album, bro, this is what the
album came out.
What 2013, 2014?
Yeah bro, I was bumming thatshit, bro, bro me and my homies
in in the car was fuckingbumming that shit bro and at the
time because of course we alllike, did music and shit.
We were like bro, like no oneknew what to fucking say.
Bro, we're just like bro, thisfool is dope, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
But at the time no one made and there's more than
one tracks and when I'm late,I'm listening within jazz right
yeah, but obviously no one madethe connection and there's more
than one tracks that I'mlistening within jazz right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Yeah, but no one made the connection back then.
That's how ahead of his time hewas.
You know what I'm saying Tothink about that shit at that
time bro, Because think about itbro.
At that time everything wastrap.
Future, oh future.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
You're not wrong, bro .
Blah, blah, blah, blah to bealive or some shit.

Speaker 3 (01:50:26):
It was all that, bro crap shit was the yeah, but I'm
not taking nothing from myfuture because that's just lane.
I'm not taking nothing fromfucking drake, that's just lane,
cool, right.
However, it's like people are.
The market was so incentivized,not incentivized, but they were
so invested ahead of his time.
They were so invested in justthat that sound.
When they heard this and it wasgood and they're like holy shit

(01:50:47):
, like there's something else.
So what do you think it?

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
doesn't have to just be this.
You asked my question.
He answered my question.
It doesn't have to just be this.
I like that.
You said it was ahead of itstime.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
Cause now 100%.
Cause now it's like, cause justlike, okay, like people like
M&M ahead of his time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Oh, 100%, you feel me Pac ahead of his time.
I love Cube man.
All these fools are ahead oftheir time, pac too.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
My God, those are real lyrics.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Even Snoop.
You know what I'm saying Aheadof his time.
Him too, he don't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
So when people hear this shit they're like what the
fuck man, you know, like whatdoes that do to an artist like
you?
I ask that because I'm notgoing to make this the official,

(01:51:36):
the official.
To me Fucking furious podcastwe're going to have to save that
for another day, but for youright now.
Live as an insight.
What does that do to an artistlike you when you record?
I like the challenge.
I like the challenge, I love it, it's just because you know the
stuff that we've shared.

Speaker 3 (01:51:50):
I go through, we all, we both go through some fucking
real ass shit.
Okay, and I, like me, I love toarticulate like you know my,
you know, like what I'm goingthrough.
So to me it's a challenge, bro,and it's like.
I like to articulate myself, youknow so I embrace that shit To
you.
Know, so I embrace that shit tome.
I like seeing that shit becauseit's like okay, there's a spot

(01:52:10):
for people like me.
You know I'm saying yeah, youknow I'm saying like there's
actually a chance.
Like that just proves to methat people are actually
receptive to it if it's, if it'sdone in the in a good way.
You know I'm saying so.
You know all you have to do isfind out the way for you that's
good to art, to art.
Articulate that.
You know i'm'm saying yeah, sothat's the thing.
But I think a lot of artistsPour it in the shot bro.

(01:52:33):
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'm sorry, continue, we're outbro.

Speaker 1 (01:52:35):
No, we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Oh shit the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
We are Shit you swear hey, what's my bad?
No, let me get your thought outfirst, because I this shit can
wait go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Artists who are trying to get paid.
Sorry, a lot of times in whatI've seen and I could be wrong
about this in this day but fromwhat I've seen in the past we're
all going off.
Oh what's selling?
Oh god, I gotta make a trapbeat oh.
I gotta do boom bap, oh I gottado this, I gotta do that, I
gotta copy what they're doing.
No, you have to fucking makewhat resonates with you,

(01:53:09):
whatever stage you're in, butyou have to just do that to the
best of your ability.
So if you're going through, ifyou look, if you're a fucking
depressed individual, speakabout that shit, but do be the
most authentic about it.
Don't try to hide anything.
If you got some shit thatyou're fucking what's it called
embarrassed about, or whateveryou've been through, speak on
that shit.
You have to be vulnerable.
The vulnerability in music iswhat makes it so fucking

(01:53:30):
attractive.
These people think, oh, it'sjust so good.
No, it's not that it's so good.
The person's being vulnerable,they're being open and you're
relating to them as a human andthat's what connects them?
that's what connects them.
Think about it bro, okay, youknow, fucking like you know,
okay, burning boy jams and allthem, of course okay, if you
hear like Afrobeat songs, bro,very vulnerable.
You hear them, bro, and you canhear and you can love songs bro

(01:53:54):
, they're vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
That's why and you can hear it in the music.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
That's why they connect to them.
But people don't want to bevulnerable, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
They're like they shut down.
I'm missing that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
I'm missing that and they my God.
But the thing is the reason whyyou're not connecting in my
appearance, like, okay, you canconnect through fucking material
shit cool, but it's fuckingsubterfuge, it's not going to
last Absolutely.
When you're actually in a humanexperience.
Okay, like a song, like Changesnever going to get old, okay,

(01:54:25):
never.
People might okay after time Ipeople might like forget in a
sense, like okay, like tupac,right, 100 years from now
tupac's gonna be a fuckingmemory.
Sorry, 100 okay no, I'm sorry,but they'll still play that song
time to time, his song.
That song's still gonna befucking playable timeless.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
it's gonna be playing because it's fucking real, so
fuck it.
I was about to say that it'sreal, so damn real.

Speaker 3 (01:54:47):
it's vulnerable bro.
It real, it's vulnerable bro.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
He's not holding back , he's not hiding, and that's
why he was an amazing artist.
He doesn't care how you look athim, look at me in any kind of
way, you fucking want you knowwhat I respect about Pac the
most man is that he didn't givea fuck how I made him look.
He knew.
Look, dude, if I show y'all mywhite underbelly shit, bro, soft

(01:55:10):
white underbelly If I showy'all that I know y'all can
relate with that shit, it'sgoing to benefit me and I'm not
worried about it.
I know y'all love me.
I love y'all.
Fuck it.
I'm going to be, real for you,for y' at least wanted to leave
us with what he left us with.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
So, if you can, his vulnerability.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
Thank you, and if you can be a smart enough hip hop
listener right and appreciate it, you can know you look past all
the gangster, whatever blahblah, you know he does his thing
.
I'm not mad at that man forbeing a man, but what I'll say
is straight to respect him forbeing giving you a perspective
that everyone can relate to asan everyday man, even if it was
some shit, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
Like but now he's involving some shit about this,
bro.
He's giving you a perspectiveright that you may have heard
from absolutely right, but themajority refuse to give you that
you think about it the majorityof people conceal their they
don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:56:04):
They conceal their.
They don't want to take thatsame trick like they're like no,
like I don't think like that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:07):
Yes, you do, yeah you .
They don't want to take thatsame trick.
They're like no, I don't thinklike that, yes you do.
You just don't want to say itbecause you're afraid of people
pulling it away.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
And I love that he wasn't afraid to do it.
Fuck it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
Look, even though he died, right in a tragic way his
legacy is immortal, bro.
It's immortal.
He's like number one in Hall ofFame.
He's the number one rapper, Brothere's no discussion there.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Number one there's nothing to go against what
you're saying.
Everyone says Pac bro.

Speaker 3 (01:56:35):
He's the first rapper to fucking, probably die and be
martyred.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
No, I agree, I agree.
I 100% agree I think, bro, tobe honest with you, I think Pac
laid down a legacy that justjust flat out sat across the
masses in a way that he knew wasnot only going to get his point
across, but was going to livewithin generations.

Speaker 3 (01:56:57):
Bro, that's powerful waking people up, bro like bro,
think about it, bro.
It's like, it's like it's likewell, okay, like when they say
god works in mysterious ways,that's a way, right there.
It's like, bro, like it's time.
Prime example, bro, you can'tOkay don't get me wrong Like,
okay, if you don't look up Pacon YouTube or whatever like that
, his session's not going tojust pop up, right, it's not

(01:57:22):
Well, let's say, you startpulling up Kendrick, right, yeah
, after a amount of timeThroughout your life Of
listening to fucking hip hop.
So you're Someone out of that,is gonna, is gonna, tune in.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
Someone's gonna tune in.
Someone's gonna tune in.
It's like, oh shit, this iswhat it was back then.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
This is the person, this is the pioneer right here,
bro, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:57:38):
This is the guy.
This is that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
When it came to fucking like yeah, actually
setting a wave and like actual,actual meaningful wave.
Okay, meaningful not not just astyle wave, but like a wave of
like awakening people to shit hewas the first.
Yeah, he was the first now maybe, okay, granted, maybe there was
another rapper before him thatset him on the wave, okay, sorry
, he didn't make enough bigenough impact on us for us to

(01:58:03):
see that.
But the one who, the one whoimpacted pock, that's obviously
the fucking goat.
Okay, but pock, as far as weknow, is the one that has that
mantle, right, thanks.
So when it comes to artists,bro, I think a lot of it is like
it.
There's a lot of facets becauseit comes down to environment,
intelligence, what, what youwant out of life, what you know,

(01:58:24):
I'm saying, what you, fucking,like, actually aspire to, you
know, um, and if the person, theartist, likes bullshit, sorry
he's, he's gonna gravitatetowards fucking future or some
shit, or I'm not saying that'snot how I take I know,
I know because future has somedope songs, but bro like that

(01:58:45):
one song, like you know, I'msaying what's it called, uh, uh,
where you was at that was dope.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
That was fucking dope .
Future has some dope shit.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
Sorry, future, I didn't mean to just single you
out, but let's say, just traprappers that have no longevity.

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
But I don't think oh, hold on.
No, I agree, but they have hotstreaks.

Speaker 3 (01:59:05):
They have hot streaks , no doubt, but it?
They have hot streaks, no doubt, but it's, it's just in the
pocket.
It's like okay, it's likethat's all it is.
Oh, it's a dope song, cool timeso no, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
So why let yourself be confounded right in my
opinion, that's we're talkingabout hip hop.

Speaker 3 (01:59:21):
We're talking about hip hop and influences so the
thing is that they're onlyliving, like for the day they're
.
They're living for what theycan get now because they've been
through so much shit, I got youGo ahead.
So much shit right when it'slike they're in survival mode.
So let me get your thoughts out,because the best thing is
because you have don't get mewrong, you have plenty of good
artists that come out of thesetrenches, right, no doubt?

(01:59:43):
Where these artists realize,okay, there's more to this shit.
Obviously I'm in a fucked upplace, which you do, but there's
more to this shit, so I can domore, right?
So some of them.
See most of the time some ofthem see a glimpse of the light,
some of the light, whatever,right, yeah, and they act on
that.
And you see that they're eitherbenefits, right, okay, you'll
see, like roddy rich rightthat's a big right saw the light
I'm saying, I'm not sayingevery song is no, no, no, no, no

(02:00:05):
.

Speaker 2 (02:00:05):
But he saw, he fucking saw enough right.
He made an impact To where heknows like okay, it's not all
about this, Of course.
Right, I can rap about it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:13):
But it's not all about this.
Right yeah, you'll see.
Okay, like Meek Mill.
Right yeah, him, like he usedto fucking do like battle raps
in Philly.
Right, you'll see footage ofhim from the past and he's
fucking spitting, bro.
I'm pretty sure he had no ideawhere he'd be today.

(02:00:35):
Of course he didn't, but he sawthat there was something bigger
.
He was just like no, I can domore with this.

Speaker 2 (02:00:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:00:43):
The thing about it, bro, is like when you're from
the start to finish, it's notthe start or finish, it's the
journey, it's the fucking, it'sthe in between.
That's really.
It's fucked up, and it's likeyou know what I'm saying, like
me and my crew too, like we'vehad fucked up shit along the way
.
We've all had our mishaps andshit like that.
But it's like, how bad do youwant it?

(02:01:05):
How bad you want it?
How bad do you really want to?
Because it's it's, it's um tome.
I differ with artists when itcomes to like business because,
like me, I'm in it for the art.
It will be dope to make moneyoff the shit.
No doubt it'll be so dope, butI really I want to make.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
Bro, you're beating me to my neck.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
I want to make the art so that people can
appreciate the art like I don'twant to.
I don't want to make make goldmoney.
I don't want to make my goldmoney.
If I can get paid for it, cool.
It's hurting your lyrics, but Iwant someone to understand
where I'm coming from.
I want to make it.
That's what I want to do, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
I respect the fuck out of that.
I'm going to go ahead andcapitalize, man.
Look, if there's one thing youdon't know about, aj me myself.
Right, I'm going to go aheadand make this?
obvious as shit.
One thing I'm not going to dois I'm never going to disrespect
my co-host, no matter who it is.
In this case, it's someone Ilove like a brother.
I'm going to tell you right now, bro, the fact that you're
opening up like this is enoughfor me, because you beat me to

(02:02:02):
my question, bro.
I kid you not the last thingyou just said.
You just beat me to it.
I was going to ask you thatReal shit dog.
So you already answered it andI really truthfully want you to
know this means a lot, becauseyou're showing something that I
don't care if they want to takeit or you're like all right, put
them up.
No, when you guys hear what thisman is cooking on and he's

(02:02:25):
ready to show it to y'all, it'snot going to disappoint, it's
not going to put you in a placewhere you're like oh, I don't
know really where he stands.
If you dissect this episode forwhat it is right, in my honest
opinion, for the heart you'llknow that you're going to hear a
little bit of all hisinfluences from his life into
what his music is.
And this dude is not claimingto be this, that or the other.

(02:02:47):
He's being himself in his mosttruest poetic state.
And that is enough, bro.
That is hip-hop Nowadays,especially, especially.
It doesn't matter what set yourep, it doesn't make you less
hard, less important.
If you're good with wordplay,which you are, man bro, I wish
you would be like, here you go,I'm going to debut a song.

(02:03:08):
We're going to wait to hear allthat, but I'm just saying like,
bro, not to big you up or tootyour horn too much or whatever
the case these motherfuckersmight say in their comments.
Whatever, I'm just saying, Iknow what you're doing, brother,
and I respect it because I Ican't wait, bro.
It took that like bro, and Iwanted to anger him more, a lot

(02:03:28):
sooner, like bro.
Say so, man, this is the timenow because, honestly, I
truthfully, bro, from my heart,I feel like hip-hop needs that
now, to going off, to going offeverything you're saying, bro,
especially now on the time ofuncertainty.
These old heads like they didtheir thing don't get me wrong,
I'm not gonna disregard any ofthem but I feel like now is the

(02:03:49):
time to show some shit because,bro, they need that, they need
someone to come up like look man, look, this is what inspired me
.
But this is my input on that,this is my imprint on what hip
hop is, and they're notdisregarding it.
Hell, they're not showing hateto it either, bro, like you'd be
surprised, man.
Actually, I don't put it pasthim.

(02:04:10):
He wouldn't be surprised youmight be.
Let me rephrase that my boywouldn't be surprised Some of
y'all might be.
Let me make that shit clear.
But it's like he knows man.
It's like if you study theculture and you love it, you
live it as much as he has and asmuch as I have.
You know that it's refreshingto them.
They hear some shit.

(02:04:31):
You know I'm like man.
This is the shit we helpedproduce because they did.
They influenced your, your mindand your heart.
You're right and you're in yourthoughts and you put it into
lyricism.
And not everybody has it, bro,some cats and I love to the ones
that are that are doing it,that are that aren't the
greatest.
Hey, man, I'm not gonna shit onyour dreams, do your thing, but
when you hear it, when you getthe chance to hear it, you'll

(02:04:52):
know.
It's one of those things that Igenuinely, from my heart,
believe that Just reallyindulging in the culture, man,
and what it is and what itoffers, it's just.
I'm gonna push hard for it.
That's a great Second topic IfI'm gonna keep it 100% real with
you.

Speaker 3 (02:05:10):
Our original topic I know it's washed out now.
Fuck that shit bro.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
That shit out that window and that shit on me.
But anyway, bro, that shitwouldn't the hell the same way,
any damn way.

Speaker 2 (02:05:21):
And what?

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
I love About this shit, bro, I'm gonna say this
shit it's organic and you knowwhat this shit feels.
Better time than what we weregoing to talk about originally.
Any damn way, for real, man,I'm just going to be real, bro.

Speaker 2 (02:05:31):
Hell yeah, man, I respect you and love you for
that, bro, and I mean it, bro,you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
This feels way better than what we were originally
going to put in there, and youknow what.
So they have this peace of mind.
I'm going to keep it real, bro.
I'm going to add you a littletwo cents to that, you can, but
all we were originally going totalk about was just some CEO in

(02:05:57):
a healthcare industry.
Anthem Blue Cross is a bigfucking.
You know they're a big deal andwe'll delve into it in another
episode.

Speaker 3 (02:06:04):
It's crazy man, it's Blue.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
Cross too, man.
Yeah, it's a big deal.
It's actually supposed to be afucking good one, which?

Speaker 3 (02:06:12):
I agree because I shit.

Speaker 1 (02:06:13):
I have Blue Cross, so I get it.
That's a conversation foranother day, y'all.
I feel like what happened todaywas organic and it was
beautiful and I don't want tooverstep that.
We're going to keep this whatit.
What do you got to say on that,brother?
I want to pass back to you.
If you can put a little too.

Speaker 3 (02:06:29):
I mean, like I said, I hope JJ's innocent bro.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
That's really what we're talking about today.

Speaker 3 (02:06:35):
Yeah, man, that's just.
I mean, I know we went up on,you know, a little tangent.
No we didn't you know what I'msaying?
Fuck that this shit happenedthe way it was supposed to Thank
you and I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:48):
I love where that shit went and that was an
episode, bro, but no man, youknow what.
This was organic and Iappreciate where it went, man,
and you know you're right, jay-z.
I hope he's innocent.
I don't think I have much elseto add to it.
You got anything you want tosay.
I think we already expressedhow we feel.

(02:07:10):
I will say this gonna end it onthis toe, on a high note.
Okay, just stay tuned.
You're gonna hear some furiousmusic.
As far as what he's gonna go bywhat artist name?
Y'all gonna find that out whenI find that shit out.
Okay, what this man wants to goby, that shit is in the air.
Just know, you got some hip-hop, some good rap, some real shit
come from this man to my right.
I'm gonna throw the mic to himin a second, but I will say this
thank you, sir, for everythingyou bring to this show.
I love you, dog.
I know you love me too.

(02:07:30):
Bro, it's there, it's equal.
I just want to say thank youfor your insight on this.
I hope jay-z's innocent we'llsee what happens, bro.
I know he.
I know he influenced you a lot.
So, hey, we'll see how thisgoes.
Jay-z, so far it looks allright.
We'll see what's up, I don'tknow.
We'll give you all an updatewhen we know.
But with that being said, I'llpass it over to my boy here.

Speaker 3 (02:07:50):
Go ahead, brother, Of course yours.
Like I said, man, hopefullyhe's innocent and that's really
all I can hope for, Because Imean, allegations are
allegations.
But, it always presents theopportunity to you know, it
always presents doubt.
Always, and it sucks that it'sone of you know, an esteemed
person, but this is the way ofthe world.

(02:08:12):
You know this is what happenswhen you live with people who I
really can't make a judgment on.
It's just that.
That's just the way of theworld.
You know you have different,you know, opinions, different
perspectives, all kinds of shit.
Shit happens and hopefully, youknow, it works out for the best
.

Speaker 1 (02:08:29):
Amen to that that.
I agree, alright, guys.
Well, with that being said,this has been another episode of
timeless talk.
If we've intrigued you in anyway, which I most definitely
don't doubt that we have, godbless you.
Stay tuned.
More come.
You know how this is.
This is episode 6.
This is episode.
This is episode six.

Speaker 2 (02:08:48):
Wow wow, jesus, this is episode eight.
It's episode eight.
Episode eight I'm tripping, bro.

Speaker 1 (02:08:52):
Episode eight it's episode eight.
Stick to it for more guys.
We're doing 16.
If you haven't noticed by now,I'm sure y'all have noticed.
We do about 16 episodes everyseason.
Hey, man, if you guys can keepsubscribing to us, following us,
youtube, rumble, spotify,especially Spotify man, spotify

(02:09:14):
is killing it.
I want to take a moment to saythank y'all.
Real shit, I appreciate youguys for everything you do.
Spotify, man, they're going toget a hand clap Y'all keeping us
live with the vocal man.
If there was ever a platform Ihad to give some love to, that
gave us some love, bro, with thestreaming and shit.
Apple Podcasts is right behindthem, but Spotify, man, yo, I

(02:09:39):
love y'all.
Thank you so much Again.
In the morning, bro, they loveto listen to us in the morning.
I got to send you thatstatistic.
I got to send it to you Furious, but they do love us in the
morning.
Fuck it, hey, we love you guys.
Appreciate you guys forlistening to us and making us a
part of your mornings.
Get your morning coffee.
Get your coffee when you listento us.
Man, just know that we'reacknowledging you guys.
I hope you made it this far.

(02:09:59):
We love you, we appreciate you.
Maybe we'll start saying thisIn the beginning of the episodes
Okay, yeah, right, when westart out like hey man, shout
out to y'all that make us a partof your morning coffee.
We're not neglecting y'all, weappreciate y'all.
And, with that being said, thishas been Timeless Talk.
We love y'all.
We'll see you next week.
Please tune in.
We'll see you then.

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